Re: [ql-users] QL is 21
- Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL is 21 Do modern computer users do any programming any more ? Or is it all web pages, video clips and MP3 downloads ... ? Given that the computer has pretty much become an appliance (sold along side TV, Washers, etc), I'm sure most computer users treat it that way. The same way that most of us treat our cars, ie. just a way to get around. I'm sure the early horseless carraige hobbyists were not too happy when the car gained mass appeal. Indeed ... the way of the world. Even my Pee Cee is more reliable than the Washing Machine!! JG The power computers that we have now we the 'stuff of dreams' when the QL was launched. And they have become just another domestic appliance ... :-) Marvin, the paranoid android said something like ... a brain the size of planet and all they ask me to do is to park cars . I'm sure that those that want to program, do. And those that don't, don't. Well, at least that is where the QL at 21 is still OK ... it is still fun to program, and people even know how. Well, Some of them do!! JG This thread seems to have had more impact on the false programming presentation than the QL is 21 Event. I expected the dinner booking form to be full by now. Come on chaps John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] QL is 21
Follow the following SuperBASIC programme to the BEST Weekend you've experienced in a long time: 10HAVE YOU HEARD??? (OK, so it's rude to shout but I wanted EVERYONE to hear me!) 20QL IS 21 and so is QUANTA 25If you've not heard THEN GOTO 10: Else: GOTO 30 30The committee of QUANTA invites YOU ALL to a Workshop and Celebratory Dinner to mark this unique occasion. 40The Workshop ill be held at the Ibis Hotel on Winston Churchill Avenue, PORTSMOUTH, PO1 2LX on Saturday and Sunday, October 29/30th 2005 starting at 10.00 on Saturday. This is your opportunity to bring yourself up to date with the QL developments in both hardware and software. It is also your opportunity to meet some of the people who have made it all happen in the past couple of decades and you can even sit down to dinner with them on Saturday evening - at the Ibis - when we will be holding our Celebratory Dinner. 50Want to know more? 60Visit one of the web sites: www.quanta.org.uk and click anywhere on the QL is 21 banner OR http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/qlis21.htm OR do a Google Search for QL is 21 and you'll be surprised at the number of information sites available to you 70In addition to this, the QUANTA committee members are offering an individual information service either by email or by phone so there is no reason that anyone should feel left out. 80The Dinner Table is filling up nicely so if you would like to join us and our guests, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or ring John Gilpin on 0161-865 2872 and a place will be reserved for you. £10.00 reserves your place and the full price £18.00 is payable by 14.00 on the Saturday at the Ibis. 90This invitation is open to ALL who are interested in the QL - NOT just Quanta members 100 HAVE YOU HEARD? 110 If You've Not Heard THEN GOTO 10: ELSE Pick up the phone NOW 120 See you ALL in Portsmouth on Saturday/Sunday 29/30th October 2005 End of Programme listing. Note to all you experienced SBASIC programmers - please excuse any syntax and line indent errors. Regards to all, John Gilpin Quanta Treasurer on behalf of all the QUANTA Committee. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL is 21 dinner
Hi All, I am now back from Holiday and more than ready to accept your bookings for the Celebratory Dinner at QL is 21. Full details are in the Aug/Sept issue of the Quanta Magazine. £10.00 non-returnable deposit will reserve your place - balance payable by 2.00pm. 29th October 2005 - at the Workshop Vegetarian Ducks will be available on request!! Hope to meet you all there. John Gilpin. Quanta Treasurer. - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 2:06 PM Subject: [ql-users] QL is 21 dinner The QL is 21 Celebratory Dinner will be held on Saturday Evening 29th October and will be in the form of a three course carvery buffet followed by tea or coffee. A vegetarian option will be available. More details are in the next Quanta Magazine, which is now at the printers. The cost of the meal will be £18 and we shall accept bookings up to 2.00 p.m. on the day. However to guarantee a place at the dinner you are advised to pay a £10 deposit to John Gilpin, Treasurer of Quanta. John is away on holiday for another week and will not be at Byfleet. However you can pay your deposit at the Quanta table. I hope to update the QL is 21 webpage within a few days, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta AGM
Tony The AGM 200g will be held on weekwnd of 8th April. That is the week before Easter, the next after that is St George's Day and the next after that is the May Bank Holiday so it is really the only one available. Regards Sarah - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 5:55 PM Subject: [ql-users] Quanta AGM Is there a date for the 2006 Quanta AGM? I can't believe it is not fixed, but the site only shows this year's AGM! It really does need to be fixed to stop clashes in shows. Last year I was in the USA on the date of the AGM. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Quanta membership renewal
Please excuse my use of this forum for the following message to any quanta members who may be monitoring this users list: With the June/July 2005 issue of Quanta Magazine, those members who normally renew in July will have received a Renewal Due letter which requests that you complete the attached form and return it to me with your subscription. Unfortunately, the printer omitted to enclose the form. Please follow whichever step is most convenient to you: 1)Please send me your cheque with your full name and address on the back - or write your name and address on the back of the renewal letter and forward it with your cheque to me in the usual way. I will make out the forms upon receipt of your cheque. 2)If you wish to pay by credit card, post your card details to me and I will make a form out on receipt. 3)Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will email you a form to use in the usual way. 4)Ring me to discuss what to do, on - 0161 - 865 2872 Please accept my apologies and those of the printer for this error and any inconvenience caused. What we DON'T want you to do is not renew your membership. Thank you. John Gilpin. Quanta Membership Secretary. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Looking for QL books
I have a copy of each of the books you are looking for, among many others. Do you want to make me an offer off list + postage and packing? John Gilpin. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users-q-v-d.com@lists.q-v-d.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: [ql-users] Looking for QL books Hi, I'm looking to buy 2 QL books: The Sinclair QDOS Companion by Andrew Pennell, and QL Advanced User Guide By Adrian Dickens If someone would like to help, please write me a private email. Many thanks, Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] MDVs Versus FLPs
- Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] MDVs Versus FLPs On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 at 23:52:48, John Gilpin wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Here's one for the hardware boffins out there: Like Geoff W, I am attempting to transfer some programmes and data from Microdrives to the hard drive on my PC (running QPC2 V3.3) Q 1 Am I correct in saying that the most straight forward way of doing this is to first of all make a copy of the Microdrive into Ram1_ using the command format Ram1_mdv1_ - see Tony F's recent email (and was there a typo in there? QPAC2 'format ram1_md1_'?) Is that what I typed! Of course it was worng. Assuming that this is all correct in principle, I need a QL with working microdrives and a floppy interface. I have 3 working black box QLs: QL1 has the MC68008 chip removed and a Super Gold Card plugged in with a twin HD floppy drive as flp1_ and flp2_. The microdrives will not read or write on this QL (I'm not saying that they are faulty, just that they won't work with the SGC set-up - see below) QL2 3 have all the chips in and all the MDVs work ( read write and format) with nothing plugged into the expansion ports. BUT they do not have any Floppy facilities, and I have tried both a basic floppy controller (without additional memory on board) and a 768K Trump Card on both machines and on QL2, the MDVs continue to work but the Floppies both return a Not Found error while on QL3, the floppy drives both work and the MDVs do not. Q 2 Can anyone suggest a solution to my problems? - I suppose I could network two machines using the MDVs on one, the ram on either and the floppies on the other. Q 3. Could this be a power shortage problem when I plug in the expansion cards and if so is there a way round it? I have a number of expansion cards of various types from SGC to simple additional memory and Floppy controllers with/without memory. I have already spent numerous hours tinkering and getting nowhere. Any offers please? Your QL1 statement is confusing. You imply the mdvs work without flp, but don't say. I'm not saying they are faulty! Sorry Tony, that is a bit vague. What I am saying is that on QL1 nothing works with the MC68008 removed unless I add the SGC then, with or without the floppies plugged into the SGC, the MDVs dont work. Could it be that the SGC is stopping the MDVs working? Should I remove the SGC and replace the MC68008 and then try the MDVs again? I could suggest many options but thought that someone may be able to suggest a solution from previous experience or more knowledge of the hardware than I have before I give up in disgust!! Those who suggested a serial lead link from blackbox to PC direct or to another blackbox - sounds great but where do I get the info on the link cable, plugs, pinouts etc and do I need to write some software to control it all? I once had two QL Aurora/SGC/QuBide rigs connected together via the network sockets with a twisted pair (that's the cable - not my wife and I !!) and although it was very slow, the results were positive. Is this the way to go? Once again, I plead for help. Now where are my back copies of QLToday? - thanks for the comments Dilwyn. Also describe completely what happens with mdvs on -all- machines. ie do they spin at all, and does the spinning sound smooth. It is all a bit vague. On all machines, the MDVs spin, the LEDs glow and with some cartridges they sound smoother than with other cartridges.(the smoother sounding ones produce the quickest and most consistent results.) None of the rollers appear to be higher up the spindle than any others. I have even tried plugging one or two extra ZX Mdvs into the expansion slot on the RH end of the QL - under the reset button - and although they seem to respond as MDV3_ and MDV4_ in that the spindles run by the sound of things but like the original MDVs they dont produce any output in terms of DIR, WSTAT, FORMAT etc. BTW often the roller on mdvs rides up and touches the case top. Tony I have always been very lucky with my QLs - plug in and get immediate success - so I haven't had the learning curve provided to those who had constant problems and had to find a way round them. Now I seem to be getting it all at once. John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] MDVs Versus FLPs
Here's one for the hardware boffins out there: Like Geoff W, I am attempting to transfer some programmes and data from Microdrives to the hard drive on my PC (running QPC2 V3.3) Q 1 Am I correct in saying that the most straight forward way of doing this is to first of all make a copy of the Microdrive into Ram1_ using the command format Ram1_mdv1_ - see Tony F's recent email (and was there a typo in there? QPAC2 'format ram1_md1_'?) Is it necessary to have QPAC2 running in order to use this command? Anyway, having got a good copy of all the MDV1_ files in ram, one then copies these files to a floppy disc and then use this disc to copy from flp1_ to winx_ in QPC2? Assuming that this is all correct in principle, I need a QL with working microdrives and a floppy interface. I have 3 working black box QLs: QL1 has the MC68008 chip removed and a Super Gold Card plugged in with a twin HD floppy drive as flp1_ and flp2_. The microdrives will not read or write on this QL (I'm not saying that they are faulty, just that they won't work with the SGC set-up - see below) QL2 3 have all the chips in and all the MDVs work ( read write and format) with nothing plugged into the expansion ports. BUT they do not have any Floppy facilities, and I have tried both a basic floppy controller (without additional memory on board) and a 768K Trump Card on both machines and on QL2, the MDVs continue to work but the Floppies both return a Not Found error while on QL3, the floppy drives both work and the MDVs do not. Q 2 Can anyone suggest a solution to my problems? - I suppose I could network two machines using the MDVs on one, the ram on either and the floppies on the other. Q 3. Could this be a power shortage problem when I plug in the expansion cards and if so is there a way round it? I have a number of expansion cards of various types from SGC to simple additional memory and Floppy controllers with/without memory. I have already spent numerous hours tinkering and getting nowhere. Any offers please? Regards, John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Size for QXL.win Files
- Original Message - From: ZN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Size for QXL.win Files On 08/07/05 at 11:23 P Witte wrote: John Gilpin writes: 4Gb per QXL.win file... I only get 2GB with QPC2: FORMAT win8_4000 fails while win8_2000 doesnt. Even then the file allocation block is a massive 32k. It seems to me that 4GB must be the theoretical limit for the current mapping scheme. The minimum space taken by a file on disk would then be a whopping 64k Per Per is right, IIRC QLWA may have a 2G limit, even though 4G would be the theoretical maximum. There are two possible reasons for it: 1) Maximum number of allocation blocks (think of them as a sort of super-sector) is a 16 bit word, unfortunately, some implementations and versions took it a s a signed integer instead of unsigned. 2) Maximum size of one allocation block is a 16 bit word, again some implementations and versions used signed arithmetic to point to a byte within the block, which reduces it's maximum size to 32k. IIRC the first error is the more likely to crop up. When QUBIDE was being maintained, these cropped up, but I do not remember the speciffics any more. 4G is a sort of double limit as the system implies that the whole QLWA partition can be used up by a single file. Since the file pointer is a 32 bit unsigned (hopefully!) integer, the maximum size of a file is 4G, and so is the size of the partition (64k blocks each 64k in size = 4G). The serious limitiation here is that one file always takes up at least 1 allocation block (even if the file is empty!) and the less serious one is that there can be max 64k files. The first is quite restrictive in QL terms as files are, in general, much shorter than 64k. This produces a lot of wasted space. If you want to be absolutely sure, 1G QXL.WIN, with 32k allocation block size is the way to go, it avoids all the possible pitfalls... Nasta Thanks for the advice, Nasta, and all explained so that I can follow the reasoning. I will do a bit of experimenting but the comments received as to what should be theoretically achievable is a great help. John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives
Quanta has a number of old microdrives including some sets of 4 from Psion Suite (Quill, Archive, Easel and Abacus) of various versions. If you could identify the version of the Silver label Easel (maybe from one of its Silver label companion programmes) I may be able to supply a replacement. I may also be able to replace your Black label Quill 2.00 together with half a dozen or so cartridges for you to pull to bits. Happy tinkering. Regards, John Gilpin. Quanta Treasurer. - Original Message - From: Ade Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 5:46 PM Subject: [ql-users] Microdrives Much to my annoyance, some of my 21 year old microdrives (it's actually their 21st birthday this month!) have begun to bite the dust. Or, rather, bite the foam: The little foam pad behind the tape is starting to disintegrate. Does anyone have a stack of dead cartridges (snapped/jammed/crinkled tape, just simply won't format, whatever) that they'd like to get shot of, so I can spend hour after happy our prising the little copper widget + foam pad out to renew my dying cartridges? I can collect from South Essex, or will pay postage, or swap interesting stuff (if I have any). I'm particularly hoping to resurrect my original black-label Quill 2.00 cart. Fortunately, the only one I've actually ruined is a silver-label Easel cart, which gummed up proper style when the foam let go (this is how I discovered the problem). Thanks in advance! Ade. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/45 - Release Date: 09/07/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Size for QXL.win Files
Having installed a large Hard Drive on my PeeCee (on which I run QPC2) I would like to dedicate some storage space for QL files. I understand that the way to do this is to generate one or more QXL.win type files to act as Winchester devices. Is there a maximum size for a QXL.win file running on QPC2 and if so, what is the maximum size allowed? Regards, John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Size for QXL.win Files
Thanks for that, Marcel. 4Gb per QXL.win file is more than enough for me! I just didn't want to set it all up then find I had overstepped the mark. (I will probably set up three or four 1Gb files and see how it goes. - my BIG Hard drive is about 80Gb in total ). Regards, John Gilpin. - Original Message - From: Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Size for QXL.win Files John Gilpin wrote: Is there a maximum size for a QXL.win file running on QPC2 and if so, what is the maximum size allowed? Actually, I don't know what the maximum size is. I do know that QPC's access routines are currently limited to 4GB per QXL.WIN file, however. It would probably be fairly easy to extend this to 2TB, but I'm not sure how much space the QLWA format itself can handle anyway. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Spelin'
Yes Dilwyn, It would be useful to know how to delete words from the Pee Sea Dicshunary witch ar noo longer reqwired. Let me know of your progress. John Gilpin Dicslectic Treshur er! (my Spell Checker has just offered Thrasher) - Original Message - From: COLIN PARSONS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spelin' - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spelin' Colin Parsons wrote: I think Geoff might like this. Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marques four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a quay and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am rong oar rite It shows me strait aweigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee four two long And eye can put the error rite Its rare lea ever rong. Eye halve run this poem threw it I am shure your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew! John Taylor I may be being pedantic, but how about the missing apostrophe in it's, it's miss-spelt with out it!! Cheers Colin He he, amazing how wrong something can be, yet still be readable! In my position of editing QL Today, the commonest errors I find in written English is the swapping of its and it's. It's is of course the same as it is but everyone thinks it's is possessive like any other 's as in Colin's. Its is the correct possessive. As my English teacher at school kept telling me until he gave up, at which point I remembered which was which once he'd stopped nagging! Grrr. Who made the English language so difficult??? -- Dilwyn Jones Its letter perfect awl the weigh = It is letter perfect... Therfore: it's Colin ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Free to a good home
Hi Norman, You are probably aware (or maybe not) that Quanta collects and stores such unwanted equipment in order to help those in need of spares or upgrades to their machines. I have (together with Rich Mellor) become the repository for such equipment and if you would like me to arrange collection from you, please indicate which area of the country you are in so that I can arrange a trip. Other list users please note this message and pass on all your unwanted QL bits and pieces OR contact me (or Rich Mellor) if you are looking for something specific - Hardware or Software. Sorry for advertising on the list. Perhaps you will forgive me this once. Regards to all, John Gilpin Quanta Treasurer and Membership Secretary. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:08 AM Subject: [ql-users] Free to a good home I have (approximately) the following kit for anyone to have for free - well, if you can collect (or pay postage) that is. 2 QLs (standard) - they are old (JS) and have the obligitory membrane problems. Power supplies and cables are available. Not sure about the network leads though - I can check. 1 QL with Gold Card fitted. As far as I remember, it is working ok. 1 pair 3.2 Mb drives plus 10 (I think) blank (never used) 3.2.Mb floppies. 1 pair 720 Kb drives (Or it could be 1.44 !). (At least, I think I have these !) 1 Phillips (?) colour monitor with cable to work off a standard QL. Was working when I put it in the loft. I think it's a VGA monitor so it might be of use on a PC (granted, an old one !) I think I might have some mdv cartridges as well - I'm not 100% sure. I know I have DJToolkit on a ROM but I might also have other stuff on ROM as well. I used to have Metacomco C, Pascal and the Assembler. As I say, there's a lot of stuff in boxes Hundreds of used and new floppy discs. Mostly an old copy of the Quanta library before I was 'sacked' (in the nicest possible way) when there was a massive re-organisation of the library. These will be re-formatted before I send them out (or throw them out - but I'd rather recycle them as they are mostly used once.) There might be more stuff, but it's in a box and/or in the loft. Reasons for 'sale' - I'm moving the office (for my day job) from one large room to one small room - my wife wants to use the big room as a second bedroom for some reason - so I need the space. These QLs have not been used for about 5 years as I have QPC (on a stick) which is just so utterly brilliant, I never need to fire up the trusty originals. Thanks Marcel. It would be best for someone to collect this stuff as geting to a Post Office is quite difficult these days since most of ours have been shut down recently :o( If anyone wants this stuff and feels 'bad' about getting it for free, make a donation to a decent charity and clear out your guilty conscience. I support the RNLI (Lifeboats), RSPCA, Cancer Research, WWF (not the wrestling, the World Wide Fund for Nature). Alternatively, buy a Big Issue from someone in the street ! Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
Count me in for a couple and I expect that a couple from the Nemqlug subgroup would also be interested. Regards, John Gilpin (individual) - Original Message - From: Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 16:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly At 15:40 19/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: We will probably settle on buying the 128Mb sticks - they are now the smallest we do, which only a handful of 64Mb ones remaining. I think a 70-80Mb QXL.WIN file or similar would be enough on these, and this would leave ample room for other storage uses for the owner. To be honest though, the fear I have is how many we'd sell. I would need to commit to buying at least 50, but more likely 100, to get decent pricing on the sticks. Typical price when available shouldn't exceed 15 pounds. Will we sell that many? I was wrong then, I thought you were looking to introduce a new line. Well, it's a new idea in QL terms, but USB sticks are about for years. As to Sticks, quantity why ? Primarily to make it worthwhile. Example - I spent MONTHS working on the QL DVD documentary project. Steve Reyal practically devoted his life to it in the same period. We even bought a Mini DV camera - over 600 pounds at the time - with the sole motive being the DVD. Steve (a professional broadcasting editor and DVD author) designed slides shows, sampled music, wrote scripts, and designed the menus for the whole thing. Even blank DVD media was quite expensive at the time. Even doing rostrum camera work of a QL turning for the menu sequences. How many did we sell? Errr.. About 6 of them. Total financial disaster. So, I'm eager to avoid that again. Secondly, if I buy 100, I can get them printed with a logo of our choice, so I could get them with a QUANTA logo on, on maybe Sinclair in the famous block font. Makes the thing a touch more personal I think. Surely the suite would best be moved as a Zipped collection for anyone to unwind into any device they had available, so many have camera mem cards already. No, this defeats the purpose. I can do this after the event for people who want the data, but this idea came about as a way of trying to get at those ex QLers who now have PC's on their desks. Most of these will have forgotten what ZIP is (if they ever knew) and would'nt want the hassle of finding out. If the idea is to work, it should be a matter of plugging in the USB stick, and clicking an icon - and a few seconds later you have a useable QL screen in front on you, with maybe a BOOT running displaying a menu of options, and programs to run. Dead simple. A separate question is if a memory stick is marketable at that price and would it be worthwhile to engage in. This is the big question. Of the people on this list for instance, how many would buy one? Cheers, Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
Is anyone else from QUANTA following this thread? Could we offer to buy a block of them for our members who are not in receipt of QLToday (where it will no doubt be advertised) and who are not regular workshop attendees? Your thoughts gentlemen? John Gilpin. Quanta Treasurer - Original Message - From: Bill Cable [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly On Thu, 19 May 2005, Darren Branagh wrote: Well, that's a probable 4 - only 96 to go :-)) Hi Darren, Although I will buy 2, if you think the 15 pounds (~$30) price is accurate then I will pledge to buy 10 if you needed me to. If you can get several other pledges then your risk will be reduced enough so you might give it a try. It will be a lot of work to bundle the software with a good interface but I bet there is enough of a market to consume 100 units over time. There could be a linux version too. Great Christmas presents to those wayward QLers we all know. Of course once a buyer has one he could easily make copies for the price of the stick but a logo on yours would make them special. -- Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Archive - ALTER command
I seem to remember, a long time ago, using the Archive ALTER command with a list of field names so that although you have (say) all the fields of a database visible on the monitor screen, by putting only some of them into the list, you only ALTER those fields listed, ignoring those which are not listed. I now cannot find any reference to the above in any Archive book or manual and I can't remember the syntax for the list. Can anyone out there help me please :-) or tell me I'm mistaken in the first case?:-( Thanks John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
- Original Message - From: Just about everbody who monitors the user list About 10 days or so ago, Darren Branagh asked a quite straight forward question about the possibility of there being a market for a DVD containing an emulator and heaps of QL Software with a purpose written front end etc. This idea was extended to 32Mb and 64Mb USB Flash Drives with a similar package. Since then this topic has become so distorted that it seems to me now to have been downgraded to a general slanging match over who said what in emails or what was the purpose of links in workshop flyers etc. After over 140 emails bearing this subject heading, can we please get back to the original topic? Carry on with the other one if you must, but is it getting anywhere? And if so can someone change the subject line so that those of us who are fed up of this exchange can ignore whatever there is still to come. I for one am very interested in what Darren was suggesting and would be willing to place any firm suggestions or business plan before the Quanta Committee if financial support was needed. Anyone else want to know what Darren has (had) in mind? Regards, John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Father Info Please Darren John Gilpin. Quanta Treasurer. - Original Message - From: Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 5:26 PM Subject: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product. I touted this idea before in QUANTA, but got no feedback at all. I, in my guise as Q-CELT, produce CD-ROMs for the QL. I was wondering if there would be any demand (Hah!) for a DVD version - i.e. All of the CD-ROMs I produce would easily fit on one 4.7GB DVD-R. It has got cheaper to buy DVD-R's, so the overall price would be quite reasonable (a fraction of what it would cost to buy all the CD's separately - probably about the same as one CD). Anyone interested, or would I just be wasting my time? Cheers, Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Al Boehm had a stroke
This message is intended for Lois Boehm and Bill Cable. All at Quanta were very disturbed to learn of Al Boehm's stroke and on behalf of all our members, I would like to send our best wishes for a complete and speedy recovery. We are all thinking about you during your illness Get Well SOON, Best regards, John Gilpin. Quanta Membership Secretary. - Original Message - From: Bill Cable [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:14 PM Subject: [ql-users] Al Boehm had a stroke Just wanted everybody to know that Al Boehm had a stroke while he was visiting his daughter in California. I think he had a slight stroke first and then must have had surgery which had complications. I will pass on any more news as I get it. -- Bill I am Al Boehm's daughter, Lois. I am responding to my Dad's e-mail's as he unfortunately suffered a major stroke while in surgery this last week. He has had a variety of complications and is still in ICU. He lost use of the left side of his body but still has his verbal skills and even started to joke with us a bit last night. He even remebered his e-mail password which allowed me to get into his account. Please keep him in your prayers. I will keep you updated on any major changes. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Fw: What happened to BACC
This message forwarded to ql-users - original message bounced because BT
have changed my default email address for a trial broadband service. JG
- Original Message -
From: John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: What happened to BACC
Following up on the thread about BACC.(British Association of Computer
Clubs).
As far as I am aware - and if I am wrong, I'm sure someone will correct
me. - Quanta's original affiliation to BACC was mainly to be able to
purchase reasonably priced Public Liability Insurance for Quanta itself
and
its Sub-groups. Quanta insured itself and nine sub-groups - I don't think
that it was ever documented which nine - for £2 Million indemnity at about
£250 (year 2000 figures) { this works out at £25 per sub-group}. When I
took
over as treasurer, the bill for the first year had risen to £600 and I was
asked by committee to investigate the insurance market for cheaper
premiums.
I received various quotations and all of them were considerably higher
than
what we were paying. Some Insurance companies even refused to quote
stating
that they no longer offered public liability insurance on its own and
that
it would have to form part of a complete business insurance package. Other
companies would only accept proposals from each individual sub-group
direct
and at one point I was offered a minimum premium for any form of
insurance
of £1,500 per annum. As I learned from BACC that their insurers were
likely
to double their premiums for 2003 and that they (BACC) were having similar
responses to their own insurance investigation, I finally took out a
policy
with Co-operative Insurance Society (CIS) to cover Quanta for its
sponsored
events, committee meetings and AGM. Sub-groups were informed that Quanta
was
no longer able to provide PL cover for the sub-groups who should consider
the matter individually and make their own arrangements.
I understand from a recent email from BACC that this is similar to
difficulties that they are experiencing and that at this moment in time
BACC
is effectively dormant although there may be a revitalisation route
following discussions with BCS.
I am sure that my contact at BACC will keep me informed and, of course, I
have wished BACC well in their fight to recovery who, like Quanta, are
suffering from a reduced level of membership.
I hope that this helps to answer the question.
John Gilpin.
Quanta Treasurer.
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[ql-users] Fw: RE:Quanta AGM
This message forwarded to ql-users - original message bounced because BT have changed my default email address for a trial broadband service. JG - Original Message - From: John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: RE:Quanta AGM Here is my response to queries regarding the Quanta AGM, Proxy votes and Special Resolutions etc. The Proxy form clearly states that any Quanta member who is unable to attend the AGM is permitted to vote by proxy. By default, these votes will be given to the chairman of the meeting although the member has the option of choosing someone else (another member) by deleting the Chairman and inserting someone else's full name and address in the space provided. If your vote is decided beforehand then you should indicate your choice by ticking the relevant boxes OR you can appoint your proxy voter to vote in whatever way he/she feels fit at the time. Time is now running very short for you to effectively use your vote. I am sure that the Secretary (John Southern) will be only too pleased to help you register your vote for the AGM. Special Resolution Number 1. Cutting out the wording regarding how the various paragraphs will be renumbered, this resolution boils down to in order to improve the balance between continuity and refreshment of the Quanta committee it is suggested that no member shall serve on the committee for more than six years without standing down for one year before seeking re-appointment. This means that the committee member has the time to reflect on whether he/she wishes to continue on the committee and also offers the committee position to another member who would like to offer their services.(without actively challenging the current committee member for his place on the committee.) The rest of the resolution covers any situations to avoid all the committee members standing down at the same time and to decide who's turn it is to stand down at any given point in time. Special resolution Number 2. Since Quanta is aware that it is very expensive to run a large committee whose members live mainly throughout the UK, it has been noted that the current constitution states that a quorum of four persons must be present at any committee meeting. This is getting difficult to arrange - with a committee size reduced to six members and this resolution provides for a varying quorum. It proposes a minimum of two members or one half of the number of committee members (whichever is the greater) and the constitution already states that one of those attending should be an officer (Chairman, Secretary or Treasurer). Availability of Current copies of the Constitution: When the Constitution is changed, it is updated on the Library Guide (LibGuide - disk LG01) as a series of Quill document pages and notification of such a change is noted in the next available Quanta Magazine. This Library disk - like other disks - is available either from the librarian in the usual way or by purchasing the library CD - available from the librarian or at most Quanta Sponsored Workshops.(Price £10.00 inc Post and Pkg.) The library CD is updated every year in time for the AGM. If anyone has any further questions regarding the AGM etc. please ask. Regards, John Gilpin. Quanta Treasurer. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL on offer
Quanta are always on the lookout for such unwanted items so that we can help users who have come unstuck and also add to the Quanta Accumulated fund - to benefit all!! I will contact Alan directly and try to arrange a collection from him. Thanks Tony, for passing this on Regards, John Gilpin. Quanta Treasurer. - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 8:59 PM Subject: [ql-users] QL on offer I received the following from Alan Hodgson alan AT outsite DOT freeserve DOT co DOT uk Hi there, I am in the middle of sorting out my house and have a load of Ql stuff that hasn't been used for quite a while. There are 2 complete Qls (with manuals) transformers etc. - one of which needs a membrane, a monitor, original printer, expanderam, disk interface and drive, toolkit plug-in and nearly 40 microdrives - some with original software.I don't know if these would be any good to you or anyone else, I don't want anything for them, but they would have to be collected from my home (South Yorkshire). If they are of use, please reply to thisemail address and we can make arrangements. Cheers, Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Calling Darren Branagh
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: [ql-users] Calling Darren Branagh Anyone know where Darren is at the moment - I need some info from him for a customer -- Rich Mellor JG The email address I got for him when he moved is as follows: darrenbranagh AT o2 DOT ie It's worth a try anyhow. John Gilpin (individual) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: AW: [ql-users] Visit to Switzerland
That's what I like about the QL scene. One person goes to see his grandmother. Suddenly it becomes a QL mini-workshop :-) Anybody got relatives in North Wales (lonely being one of only 2 known QLers in North Wales)? -- Dilwyn Jones JG Can't have a QLer being lonely, especially one of only two in North Wales. Sarah I will be taking a long weekend break at Graig Park Country Club from Friday 25th Feb to Monday 28th Feb and will probably travel about the area a bit. Want to meet up for a jar - or a brew somewhere? Might have enough room in the suitcase for a formatted floppy disc but don't intend to bring an aurora etc. Regards, John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
- Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers Dear Mr Services, Tony The counter clerk at the bank kept calling me 'Mr. Branch' so I asked him if I could have a Branch Manager. Did he Twig what you were on about? JG Perhaps that was the root of the problem you went to the bank for in the first case?? John Gilpin. Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.3 - Release Date: 24/01/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book
- Original Message - From: John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book John. I am still, however, very intrigued that the QUANTA limited edition states that there is a Quanta copyright and not that it was reprinted under licence If you look in any technical book you will find that the publisher has accepted the responsibility for maintaining the copyright. This appears to be standard practice and the Quanta publication was no exception. John Taylor JG I would have to bow to someone with far greater knowledge than I have with regards to copyright and licences. I wasn't even a Quanta member at the time; however intriguing you find the situation. I have merely quoted from the copies that I either own or am holding on behalf of Quanta for resale in an effort to shed some light on the situation. However, as current demand (nil) is far less than availability - from various sources -does the question really require further comment? Now, should this situation reverse itself (demand greater than supply) and you know of the whereabouts of some past documentation on the topic, we would all be please to hear about it. Regards, John Gilpin. (individual) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II P Witte wrote: The current Smsqe version of TK2 is 3.28. Is that compatible with Minny/JS or do non-SMSQE users need a different version? If so which? and how do I tell which version I have? Jeremy JG I have found a file called TOOLKIT.zip which I think contains a version of TK2. This is currently in my QL folder on the PC. Is anyone interested in me sending them a copy? The file is dated October 2002 but I have no idea which version it is. The zip file contains two files: Toolkit.Boot and Toolkit.rext and is about 10Kb in size. Regards, John Gilpin. (individual) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta 2005
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: [ql-users] Quanta 2005 Just a quick comment - one of the reasons that the Quanta committee seemed to want the QL 2005 meeting down south was because they thought that Manchester was not capable of holding such a prestigious event. Well its now apparently good enough for the Labour Party Conference as they are moving there... So why not the QL?? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ JG Everyone seems to think that Manchester is built out of Scout Huts (or Headquarters as we prefer to call them!) We are already looking for a more prestigious venue for AGM 2006. Rest assured, We'll find one! Regards, John Gilpin Nemqlug Sub-Group. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QLib maintained
- Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QLib maintained On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 at 00:32:27, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) snip I have drawn a blank with a similar quest in trying to contact David Batty of Sector Software for the Perfection software. Sector Software Attn: Mr D Batty 39 Wray Crescent Ulnes Walton PRESTON Lancs PR26 8HN JG I have LEYLAND Lancs PR26 8NH and www.sectorsoftware.co.uk and a mobile number. Any help to anyone? John Gilpin. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01772 454328 Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] QLib maintained
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] QLib maintained (snip) David Batty is contactable though - he is still living at the address in Ulness Walton in Lancashire (was it 39 Wray Crescent?) that he used in his QL adverts years ago. He has a website, something like www.sectorsoftware.co.uk or something like that (not sure if it was one word or a hyphen or dot or underscore between sector and software). When I met him at a Quanta AGM in Manchester a year or two ago he gave me a phone number which I've since lost which even resembled what I could remember of his phone number from those QL adverts - he used to sell software I'd written so we used to call each other a lot. I remember his excitement when I told him that George Gwilt had made the source code of Turbo available via John Sadler's website, something David was VERY interested in. Most people think of David as a trader, but he used to write software too, Touch Typist for example. He now does various things for a living, including writing software and installing and updating software remotely onto office computers. Although David is not actively QLing, he said he has been known to dip his toes in the water every now and then and keeps up to date enough (not sure how, perhaps via my website) to know when QL shows occur in his area - he occasionally visits the Manchester Quanta workshops for example. We tried to establish contact with Freddy some time ago, including a magazine appeal for anyone knowing his whereabouts to contact us. Unfortunately, we got no replies. Dilwyn Jones JG I also met David Batty at the Manchester AGM and he gave me one of his business cards as he showed an interest in our sub-group meetings (but has never actually attended one). His card has address, phone and mobile numbers, email and web site addresses. If anyone cares to contact me off list I will pass this info on. Most of what has been said above is correct. John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Hardware
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QL-Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 1:40 PM Subject: [ql-users] Hardware My wife has been cleaning up and found a box with a lot of QL stuff. An original QL! A keyboard mat in original package. Some keyboards and electronic boards. The total is not very heavy. I would be willing to pack it all and send it to someone or place where it could be of use. Any suggestions? JG Ian, Quanta is always on the lookout for such items which we can resell to A). raise funds and B). to help some QLer who needs specific items. I am the collector of such items and my address is inside the front cover of the Quanta Newsletter. Thanks for the kind thought. Regards, John Gilpin. Quanta Treasurer. Ian Pizer, 49 ch. Machery, 1292 Chambesy, Geneva, Switzerland e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel. 41227581410 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
- Original Message - From: John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book? Tim Why it says Copyright 1989 Quanta I don't know, in fact all the reprints were dated 1989 as no one amended it. The fact remains, copyright is with Jan Jones. If Quanta had bought the copyright there would have been no need to make repeated payments to Jan Jones. In any case I feel this argument is pointless as there are second hand copies available. Rich has got three and doubtless there are many more that could be made available. Quanta has one copy left and, if I remember rightly, has not sold one in the last five years. How many requests have we had? John Taylor JG A late response due to spending Christmas and New Year abroad. I am inclined to accept John Taylor's views on Copyright as he was probably involved with the original agreement with Jan, whereas I have had no need to check the agreement during the last three years. The copy that Quanta currently holds is a second-hand copy recently donated with some other stuff. The one new copy which I inherited was sold soon after I became Treasurer and since then numerous second hand copies have been received and sold on either by myself at workshops or by Rich Mellor (on behalf of Quanta).There is still a market for this book but it looks as though it can be supplied from donations of no longer required items. Quanta is always willing to accept such no longer required items for resale to QLers who need them. Some £1,000 has been credited to Quanta's bank account from such receipts during the last three years. Rich Mellor is kept updated of the items that Quanta has for resale so that he can offer such items along with those that he holds at his own depot. Regards, John Gilpin. Quanta Treasurer. On Friday, December 24, 2004, at 05:55 AM, Timothy Swenson wrote: On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:46:19 +, John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John You are wrong. Quanta does not own the copyright to the Jan Jones book and never has. Again, I refer my copy of the Quanta reprint sitting in my hot little hands, and it clearly states: Copyright 1989 Quanta This is from the Quanta Reprint Limited Edition of July 1989. If Quanta does not own the copyright, then why did Quanta state that it does, in the book. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
- Original Message - From: john mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users-q-v-d.com@lists.q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book? On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:46:19 + - John Taylor said - John You are wrong. Quanta does not own the copyright to the Jan Jones book and never has. The agreement was that Quanta had permission to print additional copies in return for a royalty based on the number printed and not on the number sold. Any other form of publication would require a new agreement. It was also stipulated that no correspondence as to the books contents, syntax or understanding was to be considered, neither was the whereabouts or contact details to be divulged to any person who might want to make use of them. This is the second time in as many weeks that you have guessed incorrectly and then stated it as fact. I do not wish to discourage the committee from doing a further reprint but as sales would be limited you ought to show a far better understanding of what you are proposing. If it is of any help, the last reprint Quanta did of the Jan Jones was photo copied and ring bound for less than £7.00, with little or no profit to Quanta as a later committee reduced the selling price. A far better approach would be for Quanta to reprint copies of Rich Mellors manual which includes far more and is readily available as I believe Rich, or the printer, still has the files. John Taylor John It is not me who is wrong - John Taylor would have been more right if he had taken care to look at the Copyright page of his copy of QL SuperBASIC - QUANTA LIMITED EDITION printed in July 1989 before he wrote rather than relied on his memory - but see below for yourselves - John Mason The Copyright Page from QL Superbasic - QUANTA LIMITED EDITION July 1989 Published by QUANTA. - The Independent QL User Group 15 Grosvenor Crescent GRIMSBY South Humberside England British Library Cataloguing in Publication Data Jones, Jan QL SuperBASIC : the definitive handbook. 1. Sinclair QL (Computer) Programming 2. SuperBASIC (Computer program language) I. Title 001.64'24 QA76.8.S625 ISBN 0-07-084784-3 Library of Congress Cataloging in Publication Data Jones, Jan QL SuperBASIC. Includes index 1. Sinclair QL (Computer) - Programming. 2. BASIC (Computer program language) I. Title. II. Title: QL SuperBASIC. III. Title: QL SuperBASIC. QA76.8.S6216J66 1985 001.64'2 84-26173 ISBN 0-07-084784-3 This QUANTA LIMITED EDITION printed in July 1989 Copyright 1989 QUANTA . All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any other means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise without prior written permission of QUANTA, or of the original copyright owner. JG In my copy there is a preface to the second edition dated 19th July 1989 and at the foot of that page there is a Copyright Notice As of December 1987 all rights in this book reverted to Jan Jones. No portion of this book may be reproduced without her written permission. Does this mean that by 'reproducing' these extracts, we are contravening the copyright? The interesting thing is that the copy which Quanta has for resale does not have this page in it but in all other respects the two of them look identical. John Gilpin.(Individual) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 at 22:18:55, Michael Grunditz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) MG I am looking for a good superbasicbook, I am a real beginner at this. If anyone have some you do not need so mail me. TF It just has to be the Jan Jones book. I haven't a spare copy, but I bet someone does. Tony JG (for Quanta) Quanta has just one copy of QL SuperBasic - The Definitive Handbook by Jan Jones - Quanta Limited Edition. Published by QUANTA ISBN: 0 07 084784 3 This is second hand and is available for £2.50 plus PPkg. Please Email me off list with your delivery address if you want me to supply it. John Gilpin. Quanta Treasurer. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QaLendar, now in PDF
- Original Message - From: P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QaLendar, now in PDF Dilwyn Jones writes: Competition Time: How many copies of this email this time Nine mails! (but all different this time ;) Per JG Only one this time, thanks. John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] How many repeats this time?
- Original Message - From: James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: QL News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] How many repeats this time? Sounds like someone has a virus going again. I received several copies but not as part of the normal email list. Either the virus has gotten email addresses from the mail list or someone with my email address (and others) in their address book has the virus. Jim 6 copies for me on two different email addresses but it's a great QaLalendar. Thanks Dilwyn. John Gilpin. On Dec 4, 2004, at 11:53 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: All right, who's been sabotaging tesco.net? Like this email, I sent one copy to ql-users, one copy to Jochen's QLNews list. Every time I've dialled up tonight I've had another copy back. That's what I get for threatening to put a picture of all those nice QL people in a calendar. Some of the alcohol must have leaked into the PC...and I've got to get up at 0515 tomorrow for work, not a nice thought to go to bed on in a moment, 10 copies of every email I send coming back. Jochen claims I sent 5 copies to QLNews. Rather clever as I only sent it once. In turn, his email back to me had 5 copies of the original email attached, so that's 10 I've had back in total! I've heard of Christmas Spirit but this is ridiculous. Hope you've all got your QaLendars by now... -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...
- Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict... On 1 Dec 2004 at 14:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (..), although I suppose it might be true that most on this list are probably members. Most? Probably not (any more). JG I did a quick survey a few days ago covering the last five months contributions to this list and found as follows: Out of 74 different contributors, 25 (34%) are on the Quanta member's database. 5 (7%) are traders (and receive complimentary membership by advertising) 6 (8%) are current or recent past committee members (complimentary membership) 36 (48%) are non-members. 2 (3%) have email addresses which comes up on my machine as hieroglyphics (and it's *not* Pheobus Dokos.) So you see, about half and half, members and non-members. John Gilpin.(individual) Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] QWord
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Byfleet Show (Q-Word) Is the game itself any good? Or is it just a brilliant showcase of colour and sound? Dilwyn Jones If the Demo version is anything to go by,(without the high colours and sound) it's very addictive. Be prepared to spend a few hours. John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...
- Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict... On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 at 10:20:43, John Gilpin wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict... printer issue (I think) I think this question was discussed at Byfleet and hope that it will be added to the questionnaire. Will this be too late for those who have already filled one in? John Gilpin.(individual) What question would you like added? Sorry, but I haven't been following this thread, and am too busy today to think of finding and reading (8-)# Something to the effect:If you have been a Quanta member and have resigned, please indicate why you left John Gilpin (individual) It is probably too late now though. We have had probably 80 replies, and any new questions need emailing to all those who have already replied. What I will probably do is save up additional questions and then email everyone automatically afterwards, asking them to fill in a supplementary form. This info can then be appended to the database. Good idea - JG Thanks are due to John Southern. All paper forms he receives he is entering manually on the on-line form. John S. seems very excited about the results so far - JG Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] October/November Quanta Newsletter
I have, recently, had great pleasure in forwarding some emails regarding the latest issue of Quanta Newsletter to the editor - Roy Brereton. In a reply, he asks me to thank all those who took the time to acknowledge his efforts. Your comments are much appreciated. He asked me to tell you all that things at the moment are pretty hectic in his daytime job and apologises if communications to and from him are a bit hazy. Perhaps all the more reason to say Well Done Roy John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] October / November Quanta Magazine
Hi Rich, We believe it is an error on the diverter from Quanta to John S. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, John Gilpin. - Original Message - From: Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] October / November Quanta Magazine On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 14:34:41 -, P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Malcolm Cadman writes: I have just received my copy of the October / November Quanta magazine, and it is back to being quite a good read, with a variety of articles. Well done to Roy Bereton for his editorship. Agreed, much better. The last one wasnt too bad either. I do miss your digest of some of the highlights on this list in the Quanta rag ;) Sometimes theres so much going on that not everyone can afford to read everything, and often there will be discussion that may interest (and entice) those not already connected. I know it must take up a lot of time, but for me at least it was well worth it ;) Per Yes well said Per... BTW secretary AT quanta email address is still not working Does anyone have John's direct email address for me please... -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] The way forward?
- Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:13 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] The way forward? On 22 Nov 2004 at 15:59, Dave P wrote: Personally, I think Quanta is irrelevant. (...) and , later on: For me, the misfortune of Nasta's work is that the resources aren't there to do something TRULY revolutionary. (...)The only organization with the funds is a private organization that is only allowed to benefit its members - Quanta. So Quanta isn't irrelevant? Didn't they extend a loan to DD systems to get the Q60 built (further?). (...) Yes they did, and a very straight forward and successful arrangement it was and fully repaid within 12 months. This is the sort of thing that Quanta would be willing to consider for other projects but no one has come forward with a project. John Gilpin.(Treasurer) I don't blame the Quanta committee for not doing anything. (...) In my company, the solution for this is to decide on three or four clear courses of action. Allocate each member with ten points, and allow them to allocate the points in any proportion to the proposed paths. At the end of this exercise you have a clear understanding of which projects have the most and least support. Isn't the fact that Quanta isn't doing this exactly what they are blamed for? (...later email...) The real problem for Nasta is such a simple one. He has a complete design ready to go - he just needs the time and resources to follow it through. Some of us have sourced and are holding components for his projects but without a couple of months away from yucky jobs, and the resources to get everything made to a suitable standard, it won't happen. I disagree in parts. One of Nasta's problems is that he seems to be a hardware man only (sorry to discuss you as if you weren't there, Nasta). Let me hasten to add that I have met him only once briefly at QL 2004 and found him extremeny likable. Nasta gave a very interesting (and witty) talk about two projects, one of which could be seen as being not that far from completion, and he seems to be driving it forward technically very nicely. What, IMHO, Nasta doesn't seem to realise is that it is also up to him to drive the project forward financially - no one else is going to do that for him. Why doesn't he say (for example here on this list) I need so much money and if I have that, I'll build (whatever - a prototype, a working version ..) within so many months. There have alreay been people on this list who have stated that they would support new projects financially... For me, the misfortune of Nasta's work is that the resources aren't there to do something TRULY revolutionary. I have these quaint ideas of miniATX motherboards using standard everything and a pair of 68060s - all this is possible if it's funded. To what tune? Maybe [Quanta] misinterpret the rules and think that benefit means do business with - they can do business with any QLer... But they do have to make sure that the projects they finance are financially sound and of benefit to many of their members (and NOT the QL community in general. If we want Quanta to be of benefit to the QL community in general, we must all become members). What if many of the Quanta members are still sticking to their original QLs Now you're talking guys. How many membership forms do you want? New members (or old ones returning) are always welcome to Quanta!! John Gilpin. (Membership Secretary) and don't plan to upgrade? Shoudl Quanta really finance something they don't want? This reminds me of a problem we had in QLCF, the (now defunct) french QL users club. We, too, had a bit of money on the side. During an AGM it was proposed that we use some of this money to fund development of SMSQ/E for the QXL. IIRC this wasn't even voted on because the consenus of those who were present was that this was something worthwhile to put our money in. So a (modest) amount was given to TT towards that development - in return, we were allowed to distribute that version aongst our members - not all of whom (far from it) even had a QXL. Some bought one because of it, though. But we already had done something like that earlier - for example, we had bought a licence for QPAC II for all of our mermbers (and I think QD, too). QLCF was responsible for translating duplicating the manuals etc, copying the disks and distributing them, a work which was undertaken for free by a member. At the time, I felt that this was a good way to act for us, because 1 - Our members got good software 2 - Traders and authors got money 3 - Secretly I hoped this would be a beneficial spiral, since some members would buy new hardware to run the new software on, tus financing the QL world even further. The problem is that you can't really do that with hardware, which, for each item sold has a definite cost so that even
Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter OK, I have now had the chance to digest the wealth of emails on this subject. What we need is a definitive document which will set out the bare bones of how this system will work. I would be willing to put this together based on the earlier emails - if you want to be part of the design process, then let me know and I will forward the draft document for comments. Once we have agreed on the specification, we then need to look for volunteers - 1) Person to write a new PFF device driver (failry simple) 2) Person to write the Printer THING 3) Person(s) to write the filters I would also suggest that this is put forward as a project to Quanta and we ask them to finance the project - possibly a one off fee for development costs (£250 split equally between the developers)?? If need be, this could be done as a loan and the end product sold commercially akin to the situation with the Qx0 where Quanta get a share of each sale to repay the loan (not as if it would ever be repaid, unless we sold the program for £50 per copy). Any comments on this?? Quanta comments would be also appreciated. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ Even though I am an officer on the Quanta Committee, I too am leaning towards spending some funds as distinct from lending the money. I see no purpose in hoarding our member's subscriptions if they can be used to some purpose to the benefit of those members. It is going to be difficult to maintain our surplus of income over expenditure as last year as there are not many expenses left that we can effectively reduce and our income falls with the steady decline in membership. It could be worth trying something different to see if we can attract new (or the return of old) members. I also like the idea of a combined toolkit and software package which would provide a basic level of support to our members. This could and possibly should be supported by a series of article on basic stuff, like how does level two configuration differ from level one and how does a novice identify between files called congig1, config2 and Menu_config? (This is where I have to admit my ignorance on some very basic stuff!!) How does one configure FileInfo2? (is the programme which enables one to double click on a file and set its basic programme running by virtue of its postscript ( the last bit of the file name after the underscore.)) I personally would like a series of articles written for the novice (a blow by blow account) on such things instead of waiting for the next subgroup meeting and the listening to two or three others with differing views as to how it ought to be done. Are there still any novices out there, or am I the only one asking daft questions and unable to retain the answers long enough to remember them say a year later? Perhaps if something was explained to me in small doses that I could understand, I could write from my own experiences an article for the magazine from a novice's stand point and then a year or so later refer back to it to refresh my own memory. Caution, am I letting myself in for something? Keep the ideas flowing. There WILL be a quanta committee meeting at Byfleet next Sunday. John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta
- Original Message - From: James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta Sorry John, but my strong belief is that, if friends or associates are involved, it is even more important to have a legal agreement when any kind of business and/or financial activities are involved. Otherwise, you are risking some very hard feelings if something is not understood or goes wrong. Unfortunately I have my own personal experience with this and know others who have also gone through some bad stuff. I would hope that any business activity that Quanta undertakes has a legal agreement of some type. Doesn't have to be over bearing or bundled with a bunch of lawyers (after all, the idea is that we do trust each other I would hope), but it does need to be there. This also protects Quanta because, if there are any questions about how something is done, there is a solid paper trail that at least shows the good intent behind the activities. Cheers, jim I coundn't agree with you more Jim. I wasn't in office when the D D agreement was formulated, I only had to administer it afterwards. Perhaps that is why I feel that it was so straightforward. I've bee a personal friend of my Bank Manager for many years but I have been unable to get him to give me preferential treatment because of it and I honour his decisions (and the many pages of legalese that I have had to sign during my business life) John Gilpin. On Nov 23, 2004, at 10:15 AM, John Taylor wrote: Didn't they extend a loan to DD systems to get the Q60 built (further?). (...) Yes they did, and a very straight forward and successful arrangement it was and fully repaid within 12 months. This is the sort of thing that Quanta would be willing to consider for other projects but no one has come forward with a project. John Gilpin.(Treasurer) It wasn't quite as simple as that John. Dennis and Derek asked me if it were possible to get Quanta to market the Q60 so that they could concentrate on the production. I agreed to approach the committee on their behalf. The Chairman, Robin Barker, called a meeting specifically to discuss that and DD were invited to attend. Previous to the meeting the proposal had already met with a flat refusal from the Chairman. He was however willing to discuss financing DD and to that end John Mason turned up with a two and a quarter page legal agreement. This despite not having put in an appearance at two previous committee meetings. My first reaction was to get up and walk out. If DD were to be trusted, a simple statement, even a verbal one, would have been binding. If they weren't to be trusted then we shouldn't have been dealing with them. Finally it was agreed that DD would submit all invoices to me for payment and I would instruct the Quanta Treasurer to make the required payments. In return, when a sale had been completed they would send the money to me and I would place such money in to the Quanta bank account. I kept records and would have acted on these in the event of a dispute. Trust was not always in evidence I am afraid, especially from Robin Barker and John Mason. The rest of the committee merely acquiesced when requested by the Chairman. If the financing of projects is to be conducted in this manner, then they are dead in the water, for heavens sake, we are dealing with people we have known for years. Therein lies the problem. John Mason has never been active among the Quanta members or the QL community beyond the traders, the Dorset sub group and the committee. I have said it before. Attitudes are too deeply ingrained in the current committee, it has become a little closed shop or mutual admiration society. For a healthy active committee you have got to have conflict. The members must believe in what they are doing even if the others disagree. John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] What Have I missed?
I count nearly 250 emails. Do you really want them *all*? Regards, John Gilpin. - Original Message - From: Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:54 PM Subject: [ql-users] What Have I missed? PC has been playing up and I have missed all the emails on the list since last Thursday - how can I get a copy of what I missed? Rich Mellor -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership
- Original Message - From: SMSQ - Jochen Merz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership Tony Firshman wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 20:13:18, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership BTW is it now policy not to send the mag to advertisers? The last one I have is April this year. Tony The last one I received was August/September (7/8). Jochen Then you are up to date Jochen.The next one Oct/Nov is at the printers and is due to be distributed any day now. John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership
- Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership - Original Message - From: Duncan Neithercut Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:36 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Quanta membership Geoff - I thought you are a committee member : customer care would suggest that you should offer to get the potential new member contacted by the correct Quanta membership secretary tonight : he (the membership secretary if this list is an accurate barometer must be thirsting for his first new signing anyway) :) A fair rebuke here. I assume that John Gilpin is already in contact with people who via this list say they have been unable to renew their membership. If there is anyone who still has a problem, could they please email me privately and I will chase it up. Please include a keyword such as Quanta in the subject line so that I don't accidentally delete your message as spam, Best wishes, Geoff Geoff is quite correct. I am in contact with Delwin Vriend who has indicated that he is interested in becoming a Quanta Member and also Mike MacNamara whose renewal was missed causing his membership to lapse some years ago. John Gilpin. Membership Secretary. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:13 AM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 The magazine could also be provided (by email) in say pdf form, again saving money. Tony Hmmm, reminds me too much of last night where I was trying to put WinXP onto my PC after having its new hard disk fitted. A couple of error messages came up which left me wondering whether to laugh or cry. I mention these because they show how lucky we are as QLers in some ways and how even seemingly simple suggestions like Tony's can drive fear into my heart. Your CD-ROM is not responding to the standard drivers, please insert the drivers CD to install the manufacturer-supplied drivers. (or message to that effect). (Reminds of me of Keyboard failure, press F1 to continue.) Err, OK, no CD drive to install the CD drivers. Fine. Its next suggestion is get a driver fof the net. Of dear, no internet connections set up yet, because no modem, which needs drivers...off a CD. Newly installed WinXP. The modem needs drivers (this was a modem which came with the PC from its manufacturer) from a CD but it is not at all clear how to do this, because the drivers are buried deep in an obscure folder level. The leaflet says refer to instructions on the CD which turns out to be a PDF file. Where are the two places I can get a PDF file reader? Off a CD, or off the net. Uhelp. Wouldn't it be great if Roy sold us a Qubide with only instructions which say you'll need a driver for this, there's probably one out there somewhere but I'll leave you to sort it out how to get it and everything else, by the way you need a PDF program to read your next issue of QUanta too. In other words, leave PDF out of the QL equation please Tony! Dilwyn Jones Still monitoring. I rather like the ideas which run thus: 1.Develop internet software for all common ql platforms - Black box, (S)GC, Aurora, Qx0 etc. 2.Encourage Quanta members to use the software 1. above and to access the user list, Web Site etc. Provide practical help with this for members who need it - I'm sure I'm not the only one!!! 3.Develop the Web Site so that all Quanta services - Magazine, Software Library, Help line, Back Issues, Advertisements etc. etc. can be accessed by all members. - with up to date links to other websites related to QL. It is the 21st Century. Can we drag ourselves out of the (early) middle ages? Now, it seems to me that the first step is to appoint a Web Master - any offers? The Quanta committee is down to its minimum number of members. As Geoff has said on many occasions, we have the ideas but not the manpower to execute them all. Is ANYBODY offering their help? John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
- Original Message - From: Joachim Van der Auwera [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't express it very well, but what I was getting at was that there are so many different possible formats in between software and printer that somewhere in the middle there has to be a common format, e.g. Postscript, so that the only job is converting from this common format to the native printer raster format. Which leaves us with two choices: 1. write drivers for every printer on the planet 2. rely on Ghostscript drivers to do this, meaning we fed Ghostscript, it does the printer driving. Much as I hate the idea, option 2 seems to be the only realistic option for the printer end of things in the future. We can do what we like with QL software's drivers (i.e. whether the Postscript is produced by epsonps feeding ghostscript or whatever). Back to: qlsoftware-epson output-epsonps-ghostscript-printer or some such long winded solution. But QL software doesn't write Postscript output now. I am saying to come up with something easier as intermediate powerful language, which will be easier for QL software to use. This is now difficult, basically define an ASCII equivalent for the PROforma commands. This will then give a system which to my opinion is more QL minded, available to more QL users (I know PROforma requires a lot of memory etc, but it is still a lot better than Ghostscript (or at least last time I looked). PROforma is already in use on some people's system, so minimal extra memory would be required. In PROforma you can choose which printers to have (in Ghostscript there are compiled in the program - thus making it either a limited set (less memory), or the system even bigger (large set), or forcing people to recompile themselves (candidates) The three layer system discussed between Wolfgang, Rich and Myself seems to be a very viable way to handle things. All that is needed now is a group of volunteers who can cooperate to make this a reality. Only then will we have made progress. Joachim Exactly, Joachim, Is the QL fraternity having QUANTA problems? That is, plenty of ideas but not enough willing manpower!! John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership
- Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 16:59:33, Mike MacNamara wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hmm. Quanta Membership Sec did not respond to my requests to renew, has lapsed for a few years now. Never got any response. I hope that whoever on the Quanta committee reads this (John G and Geoff for two!) will make sure the membership secretary is getting emails. I had similar problems. It seems the re-direction may be dodgy. This is strange because I did a test on what I thought might be an obsolete email address about a month ago and there were no problems. If there is a problem I suggest it is a dodgy rather than a non-existent redirection. Can I suggest that if you do report a contact problem, you always mention the email address you used. The best one is membership @ quanta.org.uk Best Wishes, Geoff Apart from the address that Geoff recommends above, I am still receiving on [EMAIL PROTECTED] but if you want to be absolutely sure, use [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem is that if emails go astray, the intended recipient is not aware that they were ever sent in the first place so doesn't report it. I have had one request for membership today and already responded with full details. Lapsed membership? Surely we can put that right. John Gilpin, Quanta Membership Secretary. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 The magazine could also be provided (by email) in say pdf form, again saving money. There was a proposal at the 2003 AGM for the magazine to be distributed by email, but it was reported to the 2004 AGM this was not practical because of the large number of members who do not have internet access. I don't know how the research was done. I think Brian Kemmett makes a good point about not creating a two tier membership. As you know Tony sends out notices of shows by email. We also send out a snailshot to QL-users (ie not necessarily Quanta members) for whom we do not have an email address. There were 73 such people in the Byfleet catchment area. Best Wishes, Geoff I did an analysis from the membership database mid 2003 only to find that at least 50% of our members had not given an email address on their latest renewal form. Those members who pay by Standing Order and therefore do not fill in an annual renewal form should contact me direct if the want their email address adding to their membership profile. John Gilpin. Membership Secretary. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message - From: wolfgang mühlegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 gwicks schrieb: Can I remind everyone again. You don't have to convince John Gilpin and myself of the need for changes. You do have to convince 4 committee members who do not read this list. ok - so how can i reach them? wolfgang Just because some committee members don't respond to each and every email on this list does not mean that they are unaware of your comments. Just continue to post your comments HERE, they ARE being monitored by more people on the committee than you think, and some inter-committee discussion is also being held. As I said a few days ago, there is much agenda material here for the next Quanta meeting. John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Just back from holiday and sorting through a couple of hundred emails. You can play Hunt the treasurer at Byfleet. I will probably be sat behind the QUANTA Table (as usual). Please stop and say Hello, rather than just walking past as most of the attendees usually do!! Still monitoring, John Gilpin. QUANTA Treasurer. - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Original Message - From: P Witte Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Per wrote: gwicks writes: Just a reminder that if you want to meet again at QL2005 then you have to lobby Quanta. Only 2 people have done this so far. That makes three, then. Three weeks since I wrote these guys. Apart from Geoff's reply on-list, no response at all. I suspect the committe's dead. Perhaps someone should go over and take a look? Perhaps we could organise a hunt the committee member competition at Byfleet! Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
- Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Original Message - From: John Gilpin Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Just back from holiday and sorting through a couple of hundred emails. You can play Hunt the treasurer at Byfleet. I will probably be sat behind the QUANTA Table (as usual). Please stop and say Hello, rather than just walking past as most of the attendees usually do!! Actually, John, I thought all the committee were going to be at Byfleet. I thought we agreed at Hove that we would have a committee meeting there. After all there is a lot of business piling up and some things from the last meeting and from our February meeting still have to be resolved, Best Wishes, Geoff That may be so, I have asked the question. Even so, I cannot vouch for other members being visible at Byfleet - Look hard!! John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message - From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 Dent wrote: How about testing if a £10 subscription would bring in new members by launching a special offer for new subscribers at £10 ? This could lose as many members as it gains. I suspect a fair proportion of the current paying membership members through inertia. A pound or so a month is not much to pay for a bit of nostalgia when (and if!) the Quanta newsletter arrives, although we are not active users any longer. Most don't even bother to lurk here. A change in the sub would only draw attention to the direct debit I don't think there is a crowd out there who refrain from joining for the sake of a penny a day! I am happy to continue to contribute a little financially. I even had a flush of enthusiasm when Jimmy Montesinos updated Qlay, and I wrote an piece for Quanta. Frankly, however, I am not even prepared to pay the cost of an emulator to further my interest. I agree that my investment in Quanta over the years should be spent to further the cause, before it's too late and the Red Cross get it. -- Regards, Stephen Just as a passing thought, does anyone have any idea as to how many of you guys who contribute to this list are current members of Quanta? Regards, John Gilpin. With my Membership Secretary's hat on. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:11 PM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 - Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005 On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think isnurance might be a major reason why(...) Just a quick question: was QL 2004 insured? That's a question for Sin_QL_Air. I assume they, or the school, were covered. The problem with the UK is that there is a growing compensation culture so that you have to be doubly certain with insurance. The trouble is that you can't trust any damn lawyer! (Quickly dives under desk.) Best Wishes, Geoff Quanta sponsored Workshops are covered by Public Liability Insurance until 16th April 2005 when the policy is due for renewal. And it is still getting more expensive every time we renew!! Regards, John Gilpin, Quanta Treasurer. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it
The Membership databases from Quanta have a number of possible contact addresses both snail and email BUT would I be contravening the Data Protection Act by revealing the same? John Gilpin, Quanta Membership Secretary. Not if they have given their express permission ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm Does that mean thae we have to contact the person first to find out if he agrees to us disclosing his email and snail mail addresses? Surely easier to ask him to contact whoever it is who wants the info in the first place I would have thought. However I have asked for committee guidance on the matter. Regards, John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it
- Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 at 20:57:47, John Sadler wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it The Membership databases from Quanta have a number of possible contact addresses both snail and email BUT would I be contravening the Data Protection Act by revealing the same? htm Not if they have given their express permission It is all totally academic. The address and email are what he publishes in his advertising! His address has been public knowledge since the mid 80s. His email would have been too if there had been email then (8-)# Tony So, if they are so easy to find, what is all this topic about? It is obvious that Quanta's help is not required (again) :-( John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Beeps in Archive
I have done as you suggested with some results: LPRINTing Chr(0)+Chr(7) from Archive to my Mannesman Tally MT80+ printer does produce a sound similar to that produced when the printer is out of paper. The machine code routine from Tony also produces a note from the 'Speaker' but the duration is short and it is hard to hear as the speaker is mounted inside a Pandora case. Also, when I tried to put the routine call into a loop to get it to send a number of beeps of differing pitches(a tune?), the QL locks up after about three loops! Is there some incompatibility between it and SMSQ? I am using Archive from Xchange version 3.90L as obtained from the Quanta Library. The installation of the code does work if added to the starting TSL code in archive. Any more bright suggestions from anyone or do I kick it into touch (oops off topic! ) and revert to Dilwyn's printer beep? Regards, John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] East Anglia QL Workshop
Tarquin wrote: (SNIP) More details and up to the minute information can be read on the show website at http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/orsam/ (not as wrongly printed in Jun/Jul issue of Quanta magazine). (SNIP) My file copy of the Quanta Advert on page 7 of Jun/Jul 2004 issue is correct Why was it changed? (Roy B) John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
