Re: Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Actually, John, I thought all the committee were going to be at Byfleet. I thought we agreed at Hove that we would have a committee meeting there. After all there is a lot of business piling up and some things from the last meeting and from our February meeting still have to be resolved, Best Wishes, Geoff That may be so, I have asked the question. Even so, I cannot vouch for other members being visible at Byfleet - Look hard!! John Gilpin. Byfleet is just over a week away. Everyone do your best to publicise that workshop and encourage people to visit. My newsletter has a nasty habit of turning up on the monday or tuesday FOLLOWING a workshop, so I don't know if mailing preference is given to those living in the likely visitor area around a workshop or of it's just the mail getting held up at Welsh customs :-( Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] QL2004
- Original Message - From: dilwyn.jones Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Byfleet is just over a week away. Everyone do your best to publicise that workshop and encourage people to visit. My newsletter has a nasty habit of turning up on the monday or tuesday FOLLOWING a workshop, so I don't know if mailing preference is given to those living in the likely visitor area around a workshop or of it's just the mail getting held up at Welsh customs :-( Actually the traders have the publicity side of things well organised. Tony sends out his emails and for the non-email users get a snailshot. The latter is going out of the door tomorrow targetted to QL-users in the Byfleet catchment area. (5 traders are paying for the snailshot, even though 3 of them are unable to get to Byfleet.) Our problem is a lack of co-operation from Quanta. Usually we don't even get a reply, let alone an advert. I asked the Byfleet organisers for copy for the snailshot. No reply! Fortunately I got the details from Quanta's secretary even if I had to rework it myself into a suitable form for the flyer. Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Just back from holiday and sorting through a couple of hundred emails. You can play Hunt the treasurer at Byfleet. I will probably be sat behind the QUANTA Table (as usual). Please stop and say Hello, rather than just walking past as most of the attendees usually do!! Still monitoring, John Gilpin. QUANTA Treasurer. - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Original Message - From: P Witte Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Per wrote: gwicks writes: Just a reminder that if you want to meet again at QL2005 then you have to lobby Quanta. Only 2 people have done this so far. That makes three, then. Three weeks since I wrote these guys. Apart from Geoff's reply on-list, no response at all. I suspect the committe's dead. Perhaps someone should go over and take a look? Perhaps we could organise a hunt the committee member competition at Byfleet! Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
- Original Message - From: John Gilpin Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Just back from holiday and sorting through a couple of hundred emails. You can play Hunt the treasurer at Byfleet. I will probably be sat behind the QUANTA Table (as usual). Please stop and say Hello, rather than just walking past as most of the attendees usually do!! Actually, John, I thought all the committee were going to be at Byfleet. I thought we agreed at Hove that we would have a committee meeting there. After all there is a lot of business piling up and some things from the last meeting and from our February meeting still have to be resolved, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
- Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Original Message - From: John Gilpin Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Just back from holiday and sorting through a couple of hundred emails. You can play Hunt the treasurer at Byfleet. I will probably be sat behind the QUANTA Table (as usual). Please stop and say Hello, rather than just walking past as most of the attendees usually do!! Actually, John, I thought all the committee were going to be at Byfleet. I thought we agreed at Hove that we would have a committee meeting there. After all there is a lot of business piling up and some things from the last meeting and from our February meeting still have to be resolved, Best Wishes, Geoff That may be so, I have asked the question. Even so, I cannot vouch for other members being visible at Byfleet - Look hard!! John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Perhaps we could organise a hunt the committee member competition at Byfleet! Best Wishes, Geoff Having just been playing a Pie-Gates game where you try to lob custard pies at Bill Gates, I'm sure we could come up with such a game for the QL if we converted photos of the committee (or just photos of Geoff!) into sprites and made a simple game a bit liek the old duckshoot games at fairgrounds of old! The photos are on my QL Rogues Gallery page, Wolfgang Lenerz has written a BMP2SPR .BMP graphics to QL sprite graphics converter IIRC...there you go Geoff, the next Just Words software product is in your hands! -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Per wrote: gwicks writes: Just a reminder that if you want to meet again at QL2005 then you have to lobby Quanta. Only 2 people have done this so far. That makes three, then. Three weeks since I wrote these guys. Apart from Geoff's reply on-list, no response at all. I suspect the committe's dead. Perhaps someone should go over and take a look? Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 P;us
- Original Message - From: Duncan Neithercut Subject: RE: [ql-users] QL2004 P;us How many of the 300 Quanta members subscribe to this group? Perhaps you know. I dont, my guess is perhaps 63 - based on 1 in 20 rule, if one person complains then approximately 20 others are also dissatisfied and assuming all subscribers will happily dump their committee with the responsibility of organising the meeting, as it is an easy choice for most. It is therefore possible that you are jumping to conclusions about the membership. I suspect rather more than 63, but as you imply indeed not a large sample of Quanta membership. However it is the only forum open for a quick interchange of information, and I suspect the more active members of Quanta are the ones who subscribe to this list. You reach more Quanta members via this list than via any AGM I have attended. Why then doesn't Quanta actively participate? On communication. Look at the Quanta advert on page 51 of the current edition of QL-Today. The website quoted in that advert has not existed for years. I pointed this out to the Quanta committee in February and every member told me I was wrong until I shoved the advert under their faces. It was then corrected for one issue only. Or again. Quanta is always complaining about a shortage of material for the magazine. When do the ever use their own magazine for telling members what they are doing? (Think of the Q60 decision!) It is usually bad policy to disrespect your membership if you are a committee member, and if you are a trader as well!! Trader? Total receipts this year £41. Total expenditure £113.92. If I say goodbye, I am the winner and the QL scene the loser. In fact most Just Words! time is spent helping people with general computer problems. Other traders will tell you something similar. Why do QL users go to traders for help instead of Quanta? Obviously Geoff knows the current committee better than the run of the mill Quanta members, we dont turn up to the AGM anyway, and he has stated publically he has no confidence in his colleagues on the commitee to organise QL2005 (why are you on the committee?). In February I had a meeting with the Quanta Committee in which it was agreed that there was a need for reform and renewal. As a result of this I agreed to become a committee member which I did as from the end of April. You may remember a couple of weeks ago I challenged the 3 Florida boys to tell me how their plans for the next 12 months were proceeding now that they were at the halfway period. I am now applying the same test to myself at my halfway period. How far has Quanta renewed and reformed itself in the last 6 months? I have made my own analysis and provisional decisions. I would like to hear the opinions of others. Logically therefore I vote as a Quanta member of good standing that Geoff should organise this meeting in the UK and have it as close to the center of England as possible and as near Birmingham or Manchester as possible. I would love to run a QL2005 - just one big last International QL show in the UK, but it will be a lot harder than QL2004. The latter was really a show for the movers and shakers rather than the punters, but QL2005 will have to be the other way round. Accommodation, financing, catering and insurance will have to be a Quanta responsibility. They have the funds to do it. They made a profit of £1,363 last year and I think there will be a similar profit this year. Quanta has been talking about a major show since about July 2003, but in 15 months has not come up with a single concrete proposal. At the last committee meeting they were talking about an early AGM in February combined with QL2005, but since then I have heard nothing, even though you need at least a clear six months to run an international show. Draw your own conclusion. I repeat, I will happily organise QL2005, but only on the conditions I have made on this list earlier. Sorry if I sound bossy, dictatorial and arrogant, but I had to be bossy, dictatorial and arrogant to get QL2004 off the ground. Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 P;us
- Original Message - From: David Tubbs To an outsider it looks like Geoff is Minister without portfolio, and a bit of a maverick to boot ! Like I have said before on this list, in my days as a probation officer I was assessed on a training course as a constructive subversive. Another hangover I have from my probation officer days is that when people make an agreement with me I expect them to keep it. If not, I punch hard. Best of luck to him if he is trying to get things moving. Seems a bit like part of the dog asking the tail to wag the dog. Do the articles not stipulate a duty on the officers, should they not pro-actively poll the membership with a choice of possible projects ? Then extract the digits, make something happen ! Work is out for yourself. There are 6 people on the Quanta committee. Two of us monitor this list and another is an active member of a subgroup. How do the other three keep up to date with QL developments? If their contact with other QL-ers is mainly fellow committee members, then there is a danger the committee will develop, metaphorically speaking, into a mutual masturbation group. Put in a practical way. Quanta was not present at QL2004, the most important international show for 4 years. Of the six committee members only one has first hand knowledge of QL2004, one has good second hand knowledge and 4 have no knowledge or at best filtered third hand knowledge. In all honesty have they the skills to run QL2005? But then are Quanta members any better than the committee? I have become a little bit sick of people *whispering* in my ear that they are on my side. Finally the QL2005 score: 3 Quanta members are interested 297 Quanta members are not interested The verdict is clear. 'nuff said, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL2004 P;us
Geoff How many of the 300 Quanta members subscribe to this group? Perhaps you know. I dont, my guess is perhaps 63 - based on 1 in 20 rule, if one person complains then approximately 20 others are also dissatisfied and assuming all subscribers will happily dump their committee with the responsibility of organising the meeting, as it is an easy choice for most. It is therefore possible that you are jumping to conclusions about the membership. It is usually bad policy to disrespect your membership if you are a committee member, and if you are a trader as well!! Obviously Geoff knows the current committee better than the run of the mill Quanta members, we dont turn up to the AGM anyway, and he has stated publically he has no confidence in his colleagues on the commitee to organise QL2005 (why are you on the committee?). Logically therefore I vote as a Quanta member of good standing that Geoff should organise this meeting in the UK and have it as close to the center of England as possible and as near Birmingham or Manchester as possible. Regards Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 28 October 2004 18:51 To: ql-users Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 P;us - Original Message - From: David Tubbs To an outsider it looks like Geoff is Minister without portfolio, and a bit of a maverick to boot ! Like I have said before on this list, in my days as a probation officer I was assessed on a training course as a constructive subversive. Another hangover I have from my probation officer days is that when people make an agreement with me I expect them to keep it. If not, I punch hard. Best of luck to him if he is trying to get things moving. Seems a bit like part of the dog asking the tail to wag the dog. Do the articles not stipulate a duty on the officers, should they not pro-actively poll the membership with a choice of possible projects ? Then extract the digits, make something happen ! Work is out for yourself. There are 6 people on the Quanta committee. Two of us monitor this list and another is an active member of a subgroup. How do the other three keep up to date with QL developments? If their contact with other QL-ers is mainly fellow committee members, then there is a danger the committee will develop, metaphorically speaking, into a mutual masturbation group. Put in a practical way. Quanta was not present at QL2004, the most important international show for 4 years. Of the six committee members only one has first hand knowledge of QL2004, one has good second hand knowledge and 4 have no knowledge or at best filtered third hand knowledge. In all honesty have they the skills to run QL2005? But then are Quanta members any better than the committee? I have become a little bit sick of people *whispering* in my ear that they are on my side. Finally the QL2005 score: 3 Quanta members are interested 297 Quanta members are not interested The verdict is clear. 'nuff said, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 GWASS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with all those who thought that QL2004 was a good and exciting show. It is always nice to see people who have previously only been names on an e-mail. Yes, definitely. I came away knowing that GWASS had to be amended yet again. Good to know that I can be that persuasive :-) The latest version, 4.24, should be available soon. It now enables macros to be called with Qmac style parameters. This should make it a lot easier to use the same SMSQE source code for both Qmac and GWASS. Perfect! Cheers, Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] QL2004 GWASS
I agree with all those who thought that QL2004 was a good and exciting show. It is always nice to see people who have previously only been names on an e-mail. It is also good to learn new things. I came away knowing that GWASS had to be amended yet again. The latest version, 4.24, should be available soon. It now enables macros to be called with Qmac style parameters. This should make it a lot easier to use the same SMSQE source code for both Qmac and GWASS. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
- Original Message - From: P Witte Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Just got back from QL2004 last night. Great show! (too short.) Many thanks to Geoff, Sjef and others who made it possible. Great to put faces to so many familiar names! Hopefully well all meet up again sometime soon. Just a reminder that if you want to meet again at QL2005 then you have to lobby Quanta. Only 2 people have done this so far. John Mason - chairman @ quanta.org.uk John Southern - secretary @ quanta.org.uk John Gilpin - treasurer @ quanta.org.uk Roy Brereton - editor @ quanta.org.uk John Gregory - software @ quanta.org.uk Geoff Wicks - gwicks @ beeb.net Don't forget I am also on the Quanta committee and should also get a copy of your email, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Hi all, Just got back from QL2004 last night. Great show! (too short.) Many thanks to Geoff, Sjef and others who made it possible. Great to put faces to so many familiar names! Hopefully well all meet up again sometime soon. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Tony Firshman wrote: (I thought Tony was going to get lynched when he ordered other users off the line to make way for Jon Dent's presentation, That is a mite hard. I thought the whole point of the internet connection was for Jon's demonstration. We had the internet connection from about 10:30, and Jon took over the line at about 16:00. Marcel was worried for a while, but not about the internet connection. He thought the local network was going down, but that remained all the time. True. I didn't really use the internet connection much, but I did debug other QPC laptops over the Wifi LAN (one of which didn't even have a regular cable based connector, so Wifi was the only way) and I feared that the access point would be shut off, too. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Geoff wrote:- Also Sin-QL-Air backed the show financially - where else in the QL show circuit do you get free coffee and pay only 50 euros for a roll? (I mean bread rolls - I know we were in the Netherlands, but the other sort of roll is known as a stikkie there.) 50 euro for a roll? God, you'd get a four course meal with a bottle of wine here for that :-)) Just joking, I know you probably mean 50 cent (and not the gangsta rapper either..) Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Geoff wrote:- Also Sin-QL-Air backed the show financially - where else in the QL show circuit do you get free coffee and pay only 50 euros for a roll? (I mean bread rolls - I know we were in the Netherlands, but the other sort of roll is known as a stikkie there.) 50 euro for a roll? God, you'd get a four course meal with a bottle of wine here for that :-)) Just joking, I know you probably mean 50 cent (and not the gangsta rapper either..) No Darren. 50 Euros per roll. They were exceptionally good rolls ;-)) Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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Hmmm, must have been for the entire vanful you sold at the show then. Seem to remember something recently about a French sandwich seller who came here to sell French sandwiches but used bread he'd bought at M S over here, wonder if they were the ?50 versions as well :-) Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 Geoff wrote:- Also Sin-QL-Air backed the show financially - where else in the QL show circuit do you get free coffee and pay only 50 euros for a roll? (I mean bread rolls - I know we were in the Netherlands, but the other sort of roll is known as a stikkie there.) 50 euro for a roll? God, you'd get a four course meal with a bottle of wine here for that :-)) Just joking, I know you probably mean 50 cent (and not the gangsta rapper either..) No Darren. 50 Euros per roll. They were exceptionally good rolls ;-)) Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Geoff wrote:- Also Sin-QL-Air backed the show financially - where else in the QL show circuit do you get free coffee and pay only 50 euros for a roll? (I mean bread rolls - I know we were in the Netherlands, but the other sort of roll is known as a stikkie there.) 50 euro for a roll? God, you'd get a four course meal with a bottle of wine here for that :-)) Just joking, I know you probably mean 50 cent (and not the gangsta rapper either..) No Darren. 50 Euros per roll. They were exceptionally good rolls ;-)) @ £34.61p each they must have been B--Y good rolls!!! Cheers Colin ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] QL2004
Thanks to all the people who have praised QL2004. Just one clarification. This was not my show, but a Sin-QL-Air event. I say this for a good reason. There was a lot of behind the scenes work, and the brunt of this was done by Sjef v.d. Molengraaf with some extra help from Karl Boekema. Unfortunately we did discover that now Sjef has retired, and no longer works at the school, it is a little more difficult for him to get things done. However, he made great efforts to ensure that all our promises were kept. Two things deserve a mention. We were hoping to be able to use the school's network for the internet connection, but they refused this and we were dependent on a single telephone line. Sjef allowed us to use his account. As I understand it we were also unable to use any of the school's beamers, but Sjef was able to hire one. When we arrived at the school on Saturday morning, we discovered that nothing was ready for us, including a promised public address system. Sjef and Karl remained calm and ensured everything was ready on time. Also Sin-QL-Air backed the show financially - where else in the QL show circuit do you get free coffee and pay only 50 euros for a roll? (I mean bread rolls - I know we were in the Netherlands, but the other sort of roll is known as a stikkie there.) Two things from the above. I realised how much more professional the presentations were with a beamer. Something for other show organisors to think about. Secondly it is now becoming common for QL shows to have an internet connection. Might be worth a short article in QL Today about how this is done technically and what use QL-ers make of it. (I thought Tony was going to get lynched when he ordered other users off the line to make way for Jon Dent's presentation, which unfortunately could not finally go ahead because of technical problems.) Thank also to all the presenters. I was quite suprised how well attended all the activities were and at the number of questions afterwards. The QL community is still alive and vibrant. It was also great to come out of the lecture room and hear the buzz of activity in the main hall. It is a long time since I have seen so many people working on their own machines at a show. I would have liked attendance to have been slightly better - say another 10 - 15 people - and more representation from the UK, but attendance was still well above our minimum target. Apologies to Al Boehm that there was no ladies program - his email request arrived after I had left for the Netherlands. I hope the ladies present were not bored. Finally we had 25 people at the restaurant after the show. I have seen fewer at many an official show dinner. I was the last person to get to the restaurant and the show buzz was still present when I entered. I am surely allowed one little bit of naughtiness. For all you people who 18 months ago lectured me an shows being just tea, coffee and a hall, I have some very large raspberries. Thanks everyone for a great show, Best Wishes, Geoff PS If you are wondering how I managed to avoid Guantanomo Bay, the British government finds it easy to gather the intelligence, but sexing up the dossier takes time. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 at 14:41:44, wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) STD = Sexually Transmitted Disease!! Well, try and pronounce it and it does sounds like herpes!! Must be the Irish pronunciation (8-)# Well the forum was cancelled due to lack of time, so just as well no-one wanted Skype! It was a great show. Well done Geoff for all the hard work. You looked like you were coping, even though you looked harassed. We had good deputations from USA, Croatia, France, Germany, Switzerland and UK. Thanks to Sjev, we had a good 52k internet connection all day, as well as a local internet. Jon unfortunately had trouble getting files from his floppy, so the QL internet demo didn't happen. There are some photos on my web site uploaded from the show. http://www.firshman.co.uk Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG . ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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One further thought inspired by a private email. How do we do feedback? I can bring a digital camera if that is of any use. Pictures will be no problem as several people will have cameras including me. I am just wondering if anyone would be interested in writing about various items. Even if I am unable to set up a feedback website, I'm sure QL-Today would appreciate the material. Most certainly. As I'm not attending myself, I asked Jochen to try to arrange something with someone he knew would be attending. A major event like QL2004 deserves coverage since only a small percentage of QLers attend shows, so the only contact much of the readership have with these events is via our reports. I anyone is prepared to write a bit about the event for us, please do let Jochen or myself know. Dilwyn Jones dilwyn DOT jones AT tesco DOT net or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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I anyone is prepared to write a bit about the event for us, please do let Jochen or myself know. I might do it. Wolfgang Greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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P.S. Must stop boasting about my hijacking activities. If this list is still monitored by Echelon I could find myself in Guantanomo Bay instead of Eindhoven on Saturday. With some of the bad publicity airlines here have had recently, you might end up in Cuba, your luggage in New Zealand, your QL in Eindhoven.No help needed from Echelon!!! Does all this talk of 'hijacking' make Geoff Wicks the official ql-users and Quanta terrorist??? -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
- Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 On 11 Oct 2004 at 13:49, gwicks wrote: (...) One further thought inspired by a private email. How do we do feedback? I can bring a digital camera if that is of any use. Pictures will be no problem as several people will have cameras including me. I am just wondering if anyone would be interested in writing about various items. Even if I am unable to set up a feedback website, I'm sure QL-Today would appreciate the material. Best Wishes, Geoff http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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- Original Message - From: Tony Firshman Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 One further thought inspired by a private email. How do we do feedback? I am not expecting any great interest from the Quanta Magazine Seems unlikely. I asked them for info to put into the free emailshot - not a peep! Odd. Tony Not odd at all. Quanta is out of touch with the QL community and have just not picked up the significance of the event. If they had, they would be attending. I did not press them on this point because it was a rather delicate matter after I had hijacked the QL2004 idea. I don't regret doing that because we are going to have a bloody good time on Saturday, and it would not have happened if we had left it to Quanta. I should add I have my doubts about QL2005. The last suggestion was for an early AGM combined with this next year, but I have heard nothing since. For a major international show you have to have 6 months to a year planning. Another thought I am having is what is the point of Quanta making another £1,000 profit if it never spends its money on anything? Having written that I should remind everyone that I am a member of the Quanta committee and I accept a degree of responsibility, Best wishes, Geoff http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
- Original Message - From: Brian Kemmett Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 I'm just sad I can't make it as I'm sure there is just a few questions I would love to put forward. Of course, there is nothing to stop non-attenders raising matters they would like discussed, although you might just be asked to supply more information. One further thought inspired by a private email. How do we do feedback? I am not expecting any great interest from the Quanta Magazine and although, I'm sure, QL-Today will provide its usual excellent coverage, there is the problem that Dilwyn will not be at QL2004 because of his work responsibilities. If necessary I could keep the QL2004 website active for a little while longer to give a full report of the proceedings, but I would want this to be more than just pictures. (I would include links to other's picture sites.) We would need people who are prepared to write about their show impressions in general, but also others who would concentrate on specific items which should include: Urs Koenig's introduction Jon Dent's internet update Expansion card progress Forum discussion Any significant technical discussions or decisions. If this idea is feasible, it would probably take me at least a week to set the site up. Best Wishes, Geoff http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On 11 Oct 2004 at 13:49, gwicks wrote: (...) One further thought inspired by a private email. How do we do feedback? I can bring a digital camera if that is of any use. Woflgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] QL2004
Dear QLers just a quick reminder QL2004 CELEBRATION OF 20th ANNIVERSARY OF THE SINCLAIR QL COMPUTER in Eindhoven/Netherlands on October 16th 2004 This meeting is entirely dedicated to the QL and SMSQ/E (but of course QDOS, Minerva, SMS2 and uQLx etc. are also welcome!). It will be possible to give and become information, to exhibit private projects and commercial products, to ask for assistance at individual problems, to get in touch with and meet personally other QL fans and have a good time with a lot of fun and enthusiasm. (also demonstrations and lectures, i.e. about colours, will taking place) More information : www.members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm So QL users, old QL-ers, userclubs, dealers and programmers in Europe. We invite you ALL to join us. City : Eindhoven Street : Roostenlaan 296 Building : Pleincollege St.-Joris (a school) Date : October 2004, 16 th, Saturday Time : 10 a.m. (10.00) - 5 p.m. (17.00) Organizer: SIN_QL_AIRDutch QL-User Club See you! Sjef van de Molengraaf (secr. SIN_QL_AIR) Never eat more than you can lift Miss Piggy ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 at 12:43:37, wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) That was Sjef with mis-configured attribution! Dear QLers just a quick reminder QL2004 CELEBRATION OF 20th ANNIVERSARY OF THE SINCLAIR QL COMPUTER in Eindhoven/Netherlands on October 16th 2004 This meeting is entirely dedicated to the QL and SMSQ/E (but of course QDOS, Minerva, SMS2 and uQLx etc. are also welcome!). ... and he modestly did not mention that we are using his internet account to give all-day internet at the show. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 (Wrong date?? - Strictly off topic)
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] QL2004 Dear QLers just a quick reminder QL2004 CELEBRATION OF 20th ANNIVERSARY OF THE SINCLAIR QL COMPUTER in Eindhoven/Netherlands on October 16th 2004 My apologies to all but we chose the wrong weekend for the show. We should have done it this weekend so that attendees could enjoy the pleasures of Amsterdam the following day. I picked up this delightful report on the Radio Netherlands website: On Sunday it is the opening of the kiss season in Amsterdam. The intiative comes from the cultural centre De Balie who say Amsterdammers should increase love in the city by kissing more in the street. The programme organiser, Lisa Boersen, says Amsterdam's kissing couples must keep up with the numbers in Paris. The project, Love in the City, is a protest against the increasing hardening of society and structural individualism. Kissing is a metaphor; we should strive to educate people about how they react with one another. On Sunday evening there is a full kiss programme; A presentation by students of the Rietveld Academy, poetry and proze, a lecture by the director of the Architecture Centre and kissing lessons from consultants. Broersen hopes to repeat the project each year. Ideas of how to improve the kiss score are welcome. Sometimes I miss the city, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 (Wrong date?? - Strictly off topic)
On 8 Oct 2004 at 19:48, gwicks wrote: On Sunday it is the opening of the kiss season in Amsterdam. The intiative comes from the cultural centre De Balie who say Amsterdammers should increase love in the city by kissing more in the street. The programme organiser, Lisa Boersen, says Amsterdam's kissing couples must keep up with the numbers in Paris. But then, we in the QL World are always in favour of the KISS principle, anyway. Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 (Wrong date?? - Strictly off topic)
But then, we in the QL World are always in favour of the KISS principle, anyway. Wolfgang Keep It SmSqe? -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] QL2004 - Q60 Linux appeal
Unfortunately we are not expecting any Q60 representation at QL2004, but Wolgang Lenerz has promised to give a 15 - 30 minute demo of his Q60. However neither he nor George Gwilt, who is another Q60 user and who will also be at QL2004, have used the Linux possibilities of the Q60. Is there anyone who will be QL2004 and who has Q60 Linux experience? This could be either part of the formal demonstration or just giving information to anyone who is interested. On a slightly different topic if there are any of the more technical topics you would like discussed such as the 68020, we can always arrange for a small technical group to do this. Most of the speakers and demonstraters have indicated they want no more than 30 minutes so we have some spare time in the lecture room. We can arrange this sort of thing at the last minute on the day. Geoff Wicks http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Advance Hotel Warning
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 at 19:30:17, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I have been in touch with the Eindhoven Tourist Office. They are expecting the hotels in Eindhoven to be busy in the weekend of QL2004. This is because of: Alex Tennis Classics Tournament The Design Week Tromp Bienalle Festival Exchange with residents of Hasselt This also means there will be little chance of special rates. My advice is to book hotels in advance or consider trying another city. It is easy to get to Eindhoven by car or public transport from most Dutch cities, I used www.hotels.nl just now and got a triple room in Novotel off the A2 (near the airport) for E70.50. Single rooms are E60. Despite Geoff's pessimism, these were discounted by 50%. Triples are cheaper than doubles! Roy and I stayed there last time, and the breakfast is excellent. The hotel's 'details' page says breakfast is E14. It is free (or was last time) for internet bookings. They still have free rooms. It is very quick to get to the meeting the motorway route. I wouldn't advise going through the the town unless you know the way! Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Advance Hotel Warning
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 at 15:11:09, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tony Firshman wrote: They still have free rooms. So why are you going to pay for yours? 8-) Hum, this is a very good example of how ambiguous (and interesting) English is. I -know- you know that: free == available free == costs nothing The hotel used the less ambiguous but boring 'available' Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Advance Hotel Warning
um, this is a very good example of how ambiguous (and interesting) English is. I -know- you know that: free == available free == costs nothing The hotel used the less ambiguous but boring 'available' What about free Willy! then? ;) Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Advance Hotel Warning
On 24 Sep 2004 at 16:05, Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: um, this is a very good example of how ambiguous (and interesting) English is. I -know- you know that: free == available free == costs nothing The hotel used the less ambiguous but boring 'available' What about free Willy! then? ;) Wolfgang That's a verb! Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Advance Hotel Warning
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: What about free Willy! then? ;) Wolfgang That's a verb! Not in the case of an exhibitionist. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Advance Hotel Warning
That's a verb! Wolfgang Ach Wolfgang! (sigh) Do you think I didn't know that? What about the smily? I only tried to make a joke. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 - Advance Hotel Warning
On 24 Sep 2004 at 16:43, Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: That's a verb! Wolfgang Ach Wolfgang! (sigh) Do you think I didn't know that? What about the smily? I only tried to make a joke. Yup, and I (unsuccessfully) tried to get on the bandwaggon. Consider my hand slapped (and only my hand!) Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] QL2004 - Advance Hotel Warning
I have been in touch with the Eindhoven Tourist Office. They are expecting the hotels in Eindhoven to be busy in the weekend of QL2004. This is because of: Alex Tennis Classics Tournament The Design Week Tromp Bienalle Festival Exchange with residents of Hasselt This also means there will be little chance of special rates. My advice is to book hotels in advance or consider trying another city. It is easy to get to Eindhoven by car or public transport from most Dutch cities, Best wishes, Geoff http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] QL2004
Announcement on behalf of SIN_QL_AIR: QL2004 CELEBRATION OF 20th ANNIVERSARY OF THE SINCLAIR QL COMPUTER in Eindhoven/Netherlands on October 16th 2004 This meeting is entirely dedicated to the QL and SMSQ/E (but of course QDOS, Minerva, SMS2 and uQLx are also welcome!) and of course the newest developments on hard- en sotware.(colours) It will be possible to give and become information, to exibit private projects and commercial products, to ask for assistance at individual problems, to get in touch with and meet personally other QL fans an have a good time with a lot of fun and enthusiasm. (also demonstrations and lectures are possible) So QL users, former QL users, userclubs, dealers and program-mers in Europe. We invite you ALL to join us. City : Eindhoven Street : Roostenlaan 296 Building : Pleincollege St.-Joris (a school) Date : October 2004, 16 th, Saturday Time : 10 a.m.(10.00) - 5 p.m.(17.00) Organizer : SIN_QL_AIR Dutch QL-User Club See you! Sjef van de Molengraaf (secr.SIN_QL_AIR) Never eat more than you can lift Miss Piggy ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] QL2004
I am hoping to update the QL2004 website in about a week's time, so if there is any information you would like included please let me know. In particular if you have anything to demonstrate or are developing. We can make arrangements for such things on the day, but it is better to have some notice. Now a little preliminary information: HOTELS: One or two people have commented on the excessive prices. Please remember Eindhoven is more a business city than a tourist city and you can probably negotiate weekend prices. Last Friday I stayed in a 4 star hotel with a quoted price of 99 to 270 Euros and paid only 45 Euros. ACTIVITIES: The program is now becoming firmer, with the main emphasis on Internet and the Colours: INTERNET: Jon Dent will be demonstrating the latest version of his email software. We all know that a lot of progress has been made in developing QL emailing, but have little idea how near we are to its practical implementation. You should get the answers to this at QL2004. Separate from Jon's work, we are planning internet access throughout the day. The technical side of this is being handled by Tony Firshman with Sjef van de Molengraaf providing the link. COLOURS: Wolfgang Uhlig will lead a workshop on using the GD2 colours in your own programs. I use the word lead rather than giving a lecture, because we should have most of the people who have been working on the practical implementation of the colours at QL2004. Much of the hard work on the colours has been done during Eindhoven meetings. There has never been a QL show before with so many colour experts all under one roof. Just Words! hopes to unveil its GD2 house style and release several of its programs in the new colours at QL2004. Incidentally, a group of us spent a lot of time discussing a problem involving EasyPtr, Application Window Menu Items and the new colours last Saturday. There is an answer to these problems if we can find a legal way of distributing a new version of EasyPtr. Just the sort of issue that can be addressed at a meeting like QL2004. NATIVE HARDWARE: Nasta hopes to be at QL2004 with an update on the various expansion cards. If he cannot be present Roy Wood will do this. Q60: Unfortunately there will be no official Q60 representation at the show. This is a pity because Peter Graf has made some good progress in implementing emailing and internet access using QDOS classic on a Q60. This fits in well with the show theme, and I hoped he would be able to demonstrate this, but unfortunately he is on holiday on the day. One user has promised to bring his Q60 along, should people want to see one. If there are other Q60 users who are interested in some form of Q60 activities, please bring your Q60 along. Also let us know. Preferably in advance, but, if necessary, on the day. QL-FORUM: We are still accepting nominations for the forum panel. Several names have been suggested, but we are interested in more to achieve a balance of all strands of opinion. Also we would like to receive some suggested topics. SURPRISE! SURPRISE!: It would be delightful for someone to spring a few surprises on us. For example, progress in solving the printer problem or in developing a HTLM browser, with or without graphics. APRES SHOW: One of our big difficulties is that we cannot estimate numbers attending the show. This has repercussions for the traditional post-show Chinese-Indonesian buffet. At the moment few people have expressed an interest in this and we are inclined not to make a formal booking. Geoff Wicks ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 at 14:41:38, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I am hoping to update the QL2004 website in about a week's time, so if there is any information you would like included please let me know. In particular if you have anything to demonstrate or are developing. We can make arrangements for such things on the day, but it is better to have some notice. Now a little preliminary information: HOTELS: One or two people have commented on the excessive prices. Please remember Eindhoven is more a business city than a tourist city and you can probably negotiate weekend prices. Last Friday I stayed in a 4 star hotel with a quoted price of 99 to 270 Euros and paid only 45 Euros. Roy and I stayed in Novotel (near the airport) for 68 Euros for both of us, including a very good buffet breakfast. It is a much nicer place than Eindhoven Motel - or 'Eindhoven Hotel' as they now call it. I arrived for breakfast saying (to Roy) I was not hungry and didn't want to pay the advertised 14 Euros for breakfast. I went to pay, and found it was included (in the internet booking deal) so I quickly became quite hungry! ... so 34 Euros beats Geoff by a mile (or is it kilometre). Q60: Unfortunately there will be no official Q60 representation at the show. This is a pity because Peter Graf has made some good progress in implementing emailing and internet access using QDOS classic on a Q60. This fits in well with the show theme, and I hoped he would be able to demonstrate this, but unfortunately he is on holiday on the day. ... but where are the two Ds? Do you read the list Dennis and Derek? You really ought to come, and it would be nice if you advertised in the _free_ emailshot. You might even sell something (8-)# APRES SHOW: One of our big difficulties is that we cannot estimate numbers attending the show. This has repercussions for the traditional post-show Chinese-Indonesian buffet. At the moment few people have expressed an interest in this and we are inclined not to make a formal booking. This buffet is very cheap (15 Euros including two beers for me this time) and is highly recommended. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I on the other hand have a time travel machine, yesterday I received a mail ( spam) that according to it's properties was received before it was sent, and I'm not even on broadband - talk about Quantum Leap (;-) Probably the 'tick-tock' was confused by the change over to Summer Time ... ? -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Am Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:53:13 +0200 hat Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben: Jeremy Taffel wrote: Am I the only one having problems? - it appears that random postings are not coming through to me. This makes no sense to me whatsoever because I never received the previous message. The message I have answered here was 2 weeks old. Marcel Does that mean that you didn't get before yesterday Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[ql-users] QL2004 - hotels
I have had comments that the hotels on the QL2004 website are a little pricey. We chose the hotels nearest to the show venue, but there are several more hotels in Eindhoven. If you like I can add more, cheaper hotels to the site, but I cannot guarantee the standards at these, mostly unstarred, hotels. It would also take me a few days to pick out the most suitable and check websites etc. where applicable. The source of our hotel information is the Eindhoven Tourist Office and they do a hotel reservation service at 040 - 2979115. On the next update I will add this number to the site, because this service is the best to use for last minute bookings. Geoff Wicks QL2004 website: http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 website
- Original Message - From: Wolfgang Uhlig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 website Yes indeed, Opera (7.23) shows up but the Lycos script interferes heavily. No popup-block can change this. Why do you have to accept that they change your HTML, anyway? Do they ask that for the free use of their server? Do you want space on my Tiscali account? I have got enough :-) There is no such thing as a free lunch and it is the penalty of using a free server. Originally the adverts were relatively unobtrusive, but then they decided on a permanent stripe on the side. The justification for this is that the adverts would be linked to google generated adverts that would be relevant to the site. Indeed that promise was kept. If I remember rightly another justification for permanent adverts was that there would be no need for pop-ups, but I see that this is now being broken. Thanks to the offer of space, also to Tony Firshman, but I have been thinking of moving elsewhere for some time. However, I want to do this with a restructuring of the site, dare I say it, to make it easier for PC users! I quite frequently get requests for word lists from students and academics and would like to make their searches to find me easier. Also the nature of Just Words is changing, with more emphasis on freeware than commercial products and thus more products for downloading. Thus a major change, which needs a lot of thinking and preparation. It is not going to happen this year, because of other commitments so for the moment I shall decline your kind offers. (The moral of this story is never to open your big mouth to complain about the QL2004 scene going quiet as I did at the beginning of the year.) Best Wishes, Geoff QL2004 website: http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[ql-users] QL2004 website
The QL2004 website is now available: http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm Apologies to Opera users, but since Lycos added the advertising column, the site cannot be displayed on this browser. It works OK on IE, Netscape and Mozilla, but could you let me know if other browsers give problems? Geoff Wicks ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 website
Well, I use Opera V7.11 and its fine. I can't tell the difference between it and the page on IE6. What's supposed not to work? I also use tripod to host my site and have never had any problems with it. But then its perhaps because I've got pop-ups partly blocked that it works for me. Jeremy - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: [ql-users] QL2004 website The QL2004 website is now available: http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm Apologies to Opera users, but since Lycos added the advertising column, the site cannot be displayed on this browser. It works OK on IE, Netscape and Mozilla, but could you let me know if other browsers give problems? Geoff Wicks ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 website
The QL2004 website is now available: http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm Apologies to Opera users, but since Lycos added the advertising column, the site cannot be displayed on this browser. It works OK on IE, Netscape and Mozilla, but could you let me know if other browsers give problems? Geoff Wicks Yes indeed, Opera (7.23) shows up but the Lycos script interferes heavily. No popup-block can change this. Why do you have to accept that they change your HTML, anyway? Do they ask that for the free use of their server? Do you want space on my Tiscali account? I have got enough :-) Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 website
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 at 10:06:30, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The QL2004 website is now available: http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm Apologies to Opera users, but since Lycos added the advertising column, the site cannot be displayed on this browser. It works OK on IE, Netscape and Mozilla, but could you let me know if other browsers give problems? Looks good. That guesthouse looks worth exploring. By the way, you should add title tags to the site - there is nothing, so it displays the URL (and same when one saves). Also the first words of text should make some sense, as they are ones that will appear in summaries on search engines (Google etc). At the moment there is nothing intelligible. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 website
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 at 19:07:12, Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The QL2004 website is now available: http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm Apologies to Opera users, but since Lycos added the advertising column, the site cannot be displayed on this browser. It works OK on IE, Netscape and Mozilla, but could you let me know if other browsers give problems? Geoff Wicks Yes indeed, Opera (7.23) shows up but the Lycos script interferes heavily. No popup-block can change this. Why do you have to accept that they change your HTML, anyway? Do they ask that for the free use of their server? Do you want space on my Tiscali account? I have got enough :-) I can also put it on my site if you want. I have just about enough space (35GB at the last count (8-)# ) I could give you a user account on my Linux system, and you could use pscp from Windows (and puTTY) to maintain the site. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: Marcel (if you read this) couldn't you ask Albin about that, you know him best of all of us? Yes, but first I'd like to know under what conditions he gave out the sources he did. So far I didn't get any answer to that one, although I have asked twice. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Fw: [ql-users] QL2004 website
Second attempt - after 3 hours it hasn't made its way onto the list - Original Message - From: Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 website Well, I use Opera V7.11 and its fine. I can't tell the difference between it and the page on IE6. What's supposed not to work? I also use tripod to host my site and have never had any problems with it. But then its perhaps because I've got pop-ups partly blocked that it works for me. Jeremy - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: [ql-users] QL2004 website The QL2004 website is now available: http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm Apologies to Opera users, but since Lycos added the advertising column, the site cannot be displayed on this browser. It works OK on IE, Netscape and Mozilla, but could you let me know if other browsers give problems? Geoff Wicks ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 website
Well, it took about a minute second time around. Does anyone know what's going on? The first didn't bounce - just disappeared into the ether. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 8:32 PM Subject: Fw: [ql-users] QL2004 website Second attempt - after 3 hours it hasn't made its way onto the list - Original Message - From: Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL2004 website Well, I use Opera V7.11 and its fine. I can't tell the difference between it and the page on IE6. What's supposed not to work? I also use tripod to host my site and have never had any problems with it. But then its perhaps because I've got pop-ups partly blocked that it works for me. Jeremy - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: [ql-users] QL2004 website The QL2004 website is now available: http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm Apologies to Opera users, but since Lycos added the advertising column, the site cannot be displayed on this browser. It works OK on IE, Netscape and Mozilla, but could you let me know if other browsers give problems? Geoff Wicks ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: Fw: [ql-users] QL2004 website
Jeremy Taffel wrote: Second attempt - after 3 hours it hasn't made its way onto the list Actually I got that one 10 minutes after you'd sent it (18:51). Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL2004 website
Safari on the Mac can also see if just fine. jim On Apr 11, 2004, at 2:06 AM, gwicks wrote: The QL2004 website is now available: http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm Apologies to Opera users, but since Lycos added the advertising column, the site cannot be displayed on this browser. It works OK on IE, Netscape and Mozilla, but could you let me know if other browsers give problems? Geoff Wicks ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 at 22:13:55, Tony Firshman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 at 21:53:13, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Jeremy Taffel wrote: Am I the only one having problems? - it appears that random postings are not coming through to me. This makes no sense to me whatsoever because I never received the previous message. The message I have answered here was 2 weeks old. There are certainly some odd delays in messages. I have very often seen replies to messages, and the original arrive days, sometimes a week, later. ... but this one arrived back here in minutes. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List
