Re: Unable to check e-mail....
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 05:35:15PM +0200, Bolivar Diaz wrote: I am using inet.d perhaps changing to tcpserver will help. Can anybody give me an example of a configuration line to use tcpserver instead of inet.d... See life with qmail, http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html It contains detailed instructions for setting up qmail with (supervised) tcpserver ... Thanks, Bolivar, HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Smtp queue questions
On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 08:14:13AM +0200, Luca Zancan wrote: Hi everybody, I can't find anything that explains how to selectively remove messages from the outgoing queue in qmail-1.03... I'd like to obtain a list of the messages in this queue and to delete only the messages sent by one person (I've found qmail-qread and qmail-clean, but they are not of great help...). From www.qmail.org: Michele Beltrame has a tool to view the qmail queue (with colored display), view messages in it and delete messages. It's very simple and written in Perl. http://www.io.com/~mick/soft/qmhandle.html Another question: how is it possible to trigger the time interval qmail processes the outgoing messages? Try: http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#trigger http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#retry-schedule http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#config-files Although i'm not exactly sure what you mean Please tell me where I can find this documentation (I searched www.qmail.org and nearly all its links...Am I blind???...). Not blind, maybe not persistant enough ;-)) Thank you very much, HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: minifaq
I tried to reply Off-List, but the message bounced, so i'll try on-list :) What exactly are you trying to achieve ? On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 11:08:31PM +1000, Mick wrote: -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: more forced queueing
On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 07:10:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I have been digging and digging, but to no avail as of yet. How can I force qmail to arbitrarily queue /all/ outgoing mail and deliver nothing until I "flip the switch" back, so to speak. Also, on the original subject, is there perhaps a way to make qmail retry sending messages rejected by the next server in line several times a la deferred mail? Try http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html Look for the startup script and note the 'pause' option ;) Thanks Mike Culbertson HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: logging
On Fri, Jul 14, 2000 at 07:38:52PM -0700, Eric Cox wrote: I wrote one of these in python - it's rough and the only documentation is the source. I keep meaning to get back to it but, well, you know how it is. I've used it until i switched to multilog for logging I threw together a simple web page for it at: http://www.ericcox.com/projects/mailstat/ Eric P.s. I would love it if someone would modify it to read tai timestamps, (i.e. splogger logs) looks like I'm not going to get back to it for awhile. Don't you mean multilogger logs ;) Greetz, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: POP3 Mail problem
Hi, So, who are the recipients and what's in your rcpthosts ? Have you checked the selective relaying parts of the faq / life with qmail ? HTH, Steffan On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 12:25:20AM +0530, Balaji Hare Ram Balaji wrote: iam running qmail on linux 6.1 on we based mail , wroking fine when try to get mails from POP3 mails, iam getting this error. An error occured while sending mail. the mailserver responded. sorry that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) please check the meessage recipients and try again help please -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: kindly checkout ,the attachment
On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 02:34:22PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello friends i have configured Qmail with LDAP patch it was working fine till today , on today i am getting this error in my maillog file "defferal" : Problems_while_trying_to_get_maildirsize : _access_defined._( QUOTA_ # 1.1.1) What were the permissions on the old maildirsize file you removed ? Are they the same as the new maildirsize file you (manually) created ? HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: problems with qmail...
Read lwq ... http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#relaying In a nutshell tcp.smtp is used to define for which originating IP's you allow relaying, in order to prevent becoming SPAM central :) tcp.smtp.cdb is a binary hash of the tcp.smtp file to speed up lookups from the file. HTH, Steffan On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 01:17:00PM -0600, Filip Balas wrote: Hi everyone, This error message is appearing in my /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current file : @40003969a66d2b942e6c tcpserver: end 4750 status 28416 @40003969a66d2b962a3c tcpserver: status: 0/40 @40003969b4db089e9c94 tcpserver: status: 0/40 @40003969b5370fe000c4 tcpserver: status: 1/40 @40003969b5370fe90944 tcpserver: pid 688 from 127.0.0.1 @40003969b54d169f8eac tcpserver: warning: dropping connection, unable to read /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb: file does not exist the result is that I can't connect to the qmail server on port 25. I'm wondering where my tcp.smtp.cdb file wondered off to, where I can get a replacement and, if I'm lucky, an explanation of what that file is for ? thanks, Fil. -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: cant see mails on pop3
Hi, I don't know if you notice this but you sent the message to: Steffan Hoeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think this is what you want. If you want to mail the list use: qmail support list [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want to mail me privately, use: Steffan Hoeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] With regard to your question: Sorry, there's not enough info in this mail to help you. We're not mind readers. Tell us : * what you did to get to this point; * what you did to install pop3d; * what program you're using to 'login' to the pop server; * what error message this program generate; * what do the logs say (tm); On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 12:53:30PM +0300, Simo Lakka wrote: hi... I use qmail-pop3d, and i can login to the pop3 server. But cant see mails. And i followed docs... - zrx Greetz, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: install problem
On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 08:36:38AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I run test in TEST.deliver, I only get the prompt back. I tried using diff variations on the user name. Set up folowing life with qmail. [kerryb@kerryb doc]$ echo to: kerryb | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject [kerryb@kerryb doc]$ echo to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject [kerryb@kerryb doc]$ echo to: kerryb.basicq.com | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject What is this telling me? That it isn't working ;-) Important question: What Do The Logs Say (tm) /var/log/qmail/current is the important one ;) What's the output of ps -ax | grep qmail? I tried mailing you, but i get a deferral : Unable to establish SMTP connection This hints that your smtpd isn't running I've forwarded the error messages to the address listed in the whois info for basicq.com because mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] also returns an error Be sure to also check /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current Kerry HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: install problem
On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 09:19:20AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steffan Hoeke wrote: On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 08:36:38AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped TEST.deliver bit] What is this telling me? That it isn't working ;-) Important question: What Do The Logs Say (tm) /var/log/qmail/current is the important one ;) What's the output of ps -ax | grep qmail? results [root@kerryb qmail-send]# ps -ax | grep qmail 9862 ?S 1:01 supervise qmail-send 9864 ?S 0:00 supervise qmail-smtpd 9868 ?S 0:13 /usr/local/bin/multilog t s250 /var/log/qmail/qma 9870 ?S 0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t s250 /var/log/qmail/qma 12219 ?S 0:00 qmail-send 1 ?S 0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox 12223 ?S 0:00 qmail-rspawn 12224 ?S 0:00 qmail-clean Ok, i'm missing qmail-smtpd here [snipped a bit] sendmail was recieving via fetchmail before I killed it. Where should the messages sent be delivered? I'm a little fuzzy on that, probably because qmail not working. G I know the feeling ;-)) Be sure to also check /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current 173045 worth of this is in current @40003967e35f0cc93374 alert: cannot start: qmail-send is already running [snip] This is definately NOT right ! If this is in /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current there's something wrong with /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run Are you sure you followed the lwq instructions to the letter ? I'll mail you the relevant files off-list, maybe it's easier to compare them ;) HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Problem with Qmail-pop-3 and vpopmail
On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 09:11:23PM +0300, buqtraq list wrote: uh? My qmail does Mailbox everytime when mail comes (and it's maybe default?? option), but what is this Maildir?:) how to put qmail do this? You're partly right. Read 'man qmail-pop3d' again ;) And also try 'man maildir' qmail at large supports Maildir as well as Mailbox type deliveries, as well as some other less frequently used formats. qmail-pop3d on the other hand ONLY supports Maildir for remote retrieval with POP3. With regards to Maildir vs. Mailbox configuration, try lwq HTH, Steffan On Sun, 9 Jul 2000, Steffan Hoeke wrote: Hi, Try 'man qmail-pop3d' :-) qmail-pop3d doesn't support mbox type mailboxes. It only supports Maildir HTH, Steffan On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 08:29:04PM +0300, buqtraq list wrote: hi again Well I have installed now qmail pop-3 and vpopmail, but now I tried to read my mails via pop3 mailreader. After I logged on entered login/passwd. The program gave me dialog: 'The mail server responded: this user has no $HOME/Maildir. Please enter a new password' seems like some configuration went wrong? Or did I start the program wrongly? This is normal user from /etc/passwd, not virtual domain user Start command: env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin" tcpserver -H -R 0 pop-3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup pegasus.nuvo.fi /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Mailbox -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: HELP!.. please
What's the contents of /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-root ? Have you tried looking at /var/qmail/alias/Maildir ? qmail won't deliver to the system-user root, to prevent possible exploits. This can be solved with a .qmail-root file containing [other username to forward to] HTH, Steffan On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 09:53:09AM +0300, Simo Lakka wrote: whoops i fixed that.. didnt remember ./config-fast .. butbut log shows this when i send a new mail (echo to: root | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject): Jul 8 09:48:05 moon qmail: 963064085.224954 new msg 64244 Jul 8 09:48:05 moon qmail: 963064085.225226 info msg 64244: bytes 207 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 2714 uid 0 Jul 8 09:48:05 moon qmail: 963064085.232999 starting delivery 8: msg 64244 to to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 8 09:48:05 moon qmail: 963064085.233182 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Jul 8 09:48:05 moon qmail: 963064085.249548 delivery 8: success: did_1+0+0/ Jul 8 09:48:05 moon qmail: 963064085.249724 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Jul 8 09:48:05 moon qmail: 963064085.249808 end msg 64244 but Mailbox is still empty :/ -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: HELP!.. please
On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 10:49:25AM +0300, Simo Lakka wrote: Hi... i fixed that qmail-root, and all the msgs was in /var/qmail/alias/Mailbox but now it says: Jul 8 10:46:31 moon qmail: 963067591.956793 delivery 24: deferral: Unable_to_open_./Mailbox:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)/ The log message is rather self explanatory. qmail is trying to deliver to a mbox type file called Mailbox, but there's a directory called Mailbox in the user's $HOME. remove that directory and all should be well. and rc is: exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail - Simo Lakka HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Fw: failure notice
And what exactly is the question ? On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 01:33:07PM +0300, Murat Guven Mucuk wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 Temmuz 2000 Cumartesi 13:22 Subject: failure notice Hi. This is the qmail-send program at berkbilgisayar.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ezmlm-manage: fatal: Command not available (#5.1.1) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 34616 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2000 10:22:30 - Received: from unknown (HELO muratmur) (213.43.0.43) by turkz.tc with SMTP; 8 Jul 2000 10:22:30 - Message-ID: 000901bfe8c6$f90fe3c0$2b002bd5@muratmur From: "Murat Guven Mucuk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:26:25 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1254" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: cant see mails on pop3
On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 01:22:13PM +0300, Simo Lakka wrote: Hi ! Why i can see emails on pop3 (when i connect to 110) etcetc I assume you mean "can't" ? First of all, please post more information when asking questions. No information often means no anwer :( Have you setup qmail-pop3d (or any other POP3 daemon ? What happens when you telnet to port 110 ? Have you followed INSTALL.* and/or life with qmail ? -simo lakka Greetz, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: SMTP port 25 - cannot connect
Hi, What's the contents of tcp.smtp ? If you telnet to mailmachine2.compantname.com and then do a telnet localhost 25, what happens ? Greetz, Steffan On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 12:11:37PM -0500, Tony Campisi wrote: Hello all! This is where my problem begins. I cannot access port 25 on my mail server. I am accessing the machine from my home this weekend. When I 'telnet mailmachine2.companyname.com 25' I get 'Connect Failed - Could not open a connection'. Inetd is not maintaining my POP3 and SMTP anymore, tcpserver is. There is NO mention of either POP or SMTP in the inet.conf file. This is where I usually get stumped. I will gladly post any output you request. :) -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: SMTP port 25 - cannot connect
Tony, Ok, so the smtpd is running correctly. There's obviously something preventing you from making a connection from the outside Are there any firewall rules active ? What's the REAL name of the server ? Greetz, Steffan On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 12:28:03PM -0500, Tony Campisi wrote: What's the contents of tcp.smtp ? If you telnet to mailmachine2.companyname.com and then do a telnet localhost 25, what happens ? Greetz, Steffan contents of /etc/tcp.smtp 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" 127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" 192.168.1.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" :allow I am connected to a Mindspring account and I am using Tera Term to work on the server. [root@mailmachine2 /etc]# telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mailmachine2.companyname.com ESMTP when I hit Enter it says 502 unimplemented (#5.5.1) thanks for the quick reply, tony.campisi -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Maxinum File Size
Mark, Try a 'man qmail-smtpd' and check for the databytes file / variable HTH, Steffan On Sun, Jul 09, 2000 at 01:59:02AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote: Hi, How to set up the maximum file upload size for qmail?? Thanks Mark -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: SMTP port 25 - cannot connect
H, there's something wrong on your home end : bash-2.04# telnet mailperson2.cardinalservices.com 25 Trying 209.192.74.4... Connected to mailperson2.cardinalservices.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mailperson2.cardinalservices.com ESMTP quit 221 mailperson2.cardinalservices.com Connection closed by foreign host. bash-2.04# Work like a charm from my end :-) Greetz, Steffan On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 01:10:35PM -0500, Tony Campisi wrote: It may very well be the firewall. What's the REAL name of the server ? mailperson2.cardinalservices.com also, [root@mailperson2 /etc]# telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mailperson2.cardinalservices.com ESMTP ehlo 250-mailperson2.cardinalservices.com 250-PIPELINING 250 8BITMIME thanks, tony.campisi -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: SMTP port 25 - cannot connect (new clues?)
Check the reply i sent to your private mail . On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 02:08:42PM -0500, Tony Campisi wrote: BTW: if you're recieving mail from the Net the problem isn't with your server config but with your local config ;) BTW: tried another telnet client ? I did try telnetting in with my Tera Term program, and that didn't work either. I sent a mail to an account on the mailserver, and this showed up in /var/log/qmail/smtpd @4000396775ac39eb33ac tcpserver: pid 19137 from 207.69.200.226 @4000396775ad1c564b9c tcpserver: ok 19137 :192.168.1.247:25 blount.mail.mind spring.net:207.69.200.226::4766 @4000396775ae14e7b134 tcpserver: end 19137 status 0 @4000396775ae14e7e3fc tcpserver: status: 0/40 my /var/log/maillog says Jul 8 13:49:12 mailperson2 pop3d: 963082152.910890 tcpserver: status: 1/40 Jul 8 13:49:12 mailperson2 pop3d: 963082152.912702 tcpserver: pid 4471 from 209 .138.163.167 Jul 8 13:49:12 mailperson2 pop3d: 963082152.951141 tcpserver: ok 4471 :192.168. 1.247:110 pool-209-138-163-167.dlls.grid.net:209.138.163.167::1283 So the mail is getting there, but I am not getting the mail at my house and it is not in my /new folder. That made me look at this... [root@mailperson2]# /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qstat messages in queue: 10 messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 8 So what is not running to flush these mails out? Does this have anything to do with my original problem? TIA, tony.campisi -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: HELP!.. please
On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 08:50:01PM +0300, Simo Lakka wrote: Hi ! I installed newest qmail with rpm installation / (redhat6.2), and tried to send a mail to me with pine, i didnt get that mail.. nothing in /Maildir and log doesnt say anything, anybody can help me ? No, not with the info you provided (the message was sent to the list 3 times once is enough :) ) What's the content of your /var/qmail/rc file Which log are you looking at Did you follow INSTALL.* and/or lwq -simo lakka Greetz, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: HELP!.. please
No wonder you can't find anything in your /Maildir/ . qmail is delivering to an mbox file called Mailbox you should try: * looking at $HOME/Mailbox with a MUA supporting mbox * changing ./Mailbox to ./Maildir/ and creating the user's maildir with maildirmake BTW: what do you mean with "there's nothing in the logs" ? If you followed INSTALL.* the logfile to look at is /var/log/maillog What does it contain ? HTH, Steffan On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 12:06:18AM +0300, Simo Lakka wrote: On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Steffan Hoeke wrote: On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 08:50:01PM +0300, Simo Lakka wrote: Hi ! I installed newest qmail with rpm installation / (redhat6.2), and tried to send a mail to me with pine, i didnt get that mail.. nothing in /Maildir and log doesnt say anything, anybody can help me ? No, not with the info you provided (the message was sent to the list 3 times once is enough :) ) What's the content of your /var/qmail/rc file Which log are you looking at Did you follow INSTALL.* and/or lwq -simo lakka Greetz, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org i installed again with tarball installation .. and rc : #!/bin/sh # Using splogger to send the log through syslog. # Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default. exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail and i followed install docs .. i think :) - simo lakka -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: .qmail
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 05:13:20PM -0700, Eddie Greer wrote: I need a little help, I got finally got qmail installed and everything appears to working fine. The problem is when I telnet to localhost 25 and follow the direction from the TEST.deliver, I connect to the port and run all the commands but the mail does not get delivered. I took a look at the log and it states the following: deferral: uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is blank._(#4.2.1)/ I running Solaris 2.7 with deamontool, checkpassword, tcpserver and qmail 1.03. Has anyone ever seen this before and know how to fix it. I did a search for .qmail but did not find anything. Have you tried looking in /var/qmail/alias/ ? If the user you're sending to is a system user it could also have a .qmail-* file in $HOME Also can someone tell me the proper way to add Maildir to every new user I add. Change to the skeleton directory which is used as a basis for each new user and do a maildirmake in that directory Thanks, Eddie Greer HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: qmailq problem
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 11:41:16AM -0400, Sill, Dave wrote: Steffan Hoeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What *does* the last number in @4000395b7d5233ba0ecc delivery 123: success: did_1+0+0/ stand for ? The first number is a local delivery The second number is a remote delivery The third number is .. ? program deliveries Could you please elaborate ? by program do you mean a |preline e.a. in a .qmail file or something else ? -Dave TIA, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Error message
On Mon, Jan 01, 1996 at 06:12:42AM -0200, Roberto Samarone Araújo (RSA) wrote: I would like to know what I need to do to solve this error message : qmail: 962558237.142034 delivery 162: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/ What's the command line for qmail-start ? How did you create the Maildir ? What are the permissions on $HOME/Maildir (and sub-tree) ? Roberto Samarone Araujo Greetz, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Error message - Again
On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 03:19:23PM -0300, Roberto Samarone Araújo (RSA) wrote: qmail: 962558237.142034 delivery 162: deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/ I was trying to solve this problem when I discovered that when I send an internal email , it arrive in Maildir but , if I send an email from another place , the qmail logs this message . Could you please help me ?? Have you got any virtual domains ? Roberto Samarone Araujo Steffan PS: I see you fixed the system date/time ;-) -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: qmailq problem
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 06:10:38PM +0200, clemensF wrote: Ben Beuchler: And is there a particular reason so many people neglect to look at their logs when trying to research a problem? [snipped a bit] number. then there's definitly the need to make sense of the long-term queue-id of the delivery messages and the status line at the end (1_0_0). i'd like to see it at a prominent place in the INSTALL files, maybe. What *does* the last number in @4000395b7d5233ba0ecc delivery 123: success: did_1+0+0/ stand for ? The first number is a local delivery The second number is a remote delivery The third number is .. ? clemens TIA, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Help! :(
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:49:35PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote: Hi, I've been playing with dot-forward, and now my whole qmail system doesn't want to deliver messages. I don't know if they're related, or whether something else is wrong - but no one is getting any mail!?!? Basically I installed the dot-forward package and set this at my /var/qmail/rc: exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward ./Maildir/' splogger qmail But that didn't work, so I thought i'd set it back to normal whilst I look into the matter, so my rc is now: exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail Thing is, mail is being received, but not delivered. qmail-qstat shows: messages in queue: 6 messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0 And qmail is running again after I stopped it. Any ideas what I've done to stop it working? At least messages aren't being lost, but I need to get the mail out to my users :-( TIA, Andy. What do the logs say? (tm) I'm also a bit curious why there's a in your rc file Greetz, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Can't find my log file
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 12:12:26PM +0100, Lou Hevly wrote: Greetings: Sorry to ask so basic a question, but after installing qmail successfully following LWQ, I'm unable to find my log file. `ps` shows that multilog is being invoked: qmaill 541 0.0 1.1 1092 356 ? S14:42 0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail All of qmail-send's activity is logged in /var/log/qmail/current qmaill 542 0.0 1.0 1084 328 ? S14:42 0:00 /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail/smtpd All of qmail-smptd's activity is logged in /var/log/qmail/smptd/current The doc says: "The log directory is specified on the multilog command line, so you can find it by examining your qmail startup script." i.e. the /var/log/qmail and /var/log/qmail/smtpd directories I used the startup script from LWQ, but I don`t see where it tells me where the log directory is. See above ;-) Thanks. Lou Hevly HTH, Steffan BTW: please set the margins to 80 chars, makes replying easier . -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Help! :(
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 05:35:26PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote: - Original Message - From: "Steffan Hoeke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Help! :( On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:49:35PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote: Hi, I've been playing with dot-forward, and now my whole qmail system doesn't want to deliver messages. I don't know if they're related, or whether something else is wrong - but no one is getting any mail!?!? [snipped] At least messages aren't being lost, but I need to get the mail out to my users :-( TIA, Andy. What do the logs say? (tm) I'm also a bit curious why there's a in your rc file The is what was in the /var/qmail/boot example files, I used /var/qmail/boot/maildir for my RC. Ok, i'm just getting used to running qmail supervised, so i forgot :-0 As for the logs, nothing. (a little odd again). Nothing, as in there's no entries in the log, or Nothing, as in there's nothing of interest in the log ? Andy. Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
[ira@scso.com: Re: digest version?]
By request ... - Forwarded message from Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:16:54 +0300 (IDT) From: Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steffan Hoeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: digest version? On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Steffan Hoeke wrote: On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 08:12:31PM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote: On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 05:54:18PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a digest version of this mailing list? Nope, sorry Since it's a veryhigh volume list IMHO it wouldn't be advisable I read it on digest. subscribe on egroups.com/group/djb-qmail Hmmm. I thought [EMAIL PROTECTED] was the only source . nope, but apperently I can't post since I'm not subscribed directly to dan's machine. plese forward the URL to the main list, thanks! -- Ira Abramov (@- Gnu/Linux, Free Speech, RFC 1855 whois: IA58 //\ Peace, Love, Music, Slow Food www.scso.com v_/_ Citroens, Camels, Penguins, Cats - End forwarded message - -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Help! :(
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 06:27:26PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote: - Original Message - From: "Steffan Hoeke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Help! :( On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 05:35:26PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote: - Original Message - From: "Steffan Hoeke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Help! :( On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:49:35PM +0100, Andy Coates wrote: Hi, [Snipped another bit] I'm also a bit curious why there's a in your rc file The is what was in the /var/qmail/boot example files, I used /var/qmail/boot/maildir for my RC. Ok, i'm just getting used to running qmail supervised, so i forgot :-0 As for the logs, nothing. (a little odd again). Nothing, as in there's no entries in the log, or Nothing, as in there's nothing of interest in the log ? Nothing as in there's no entries (i'm looking in /var/log/messages, which is hopefully the right place). Ehhm, when i used splogger it was /var/log/maillog . Any ideas? Andy. -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Limit email file seize for some users
On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 09:47:45AM +0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I would like to limit some of my users to file seizes not above 1 MB How do I implement that. man qmail-smtpd: databytes Maximum number of bytes allowed in a message, or 0 for no limit. Default: 0. If a message exceeds this limit, qmail-smtpd returns a permanent error code to the client; in contrast, if the disk is full or qmail-smtpd hits a resource limit, qmail-smtpd returns a temporary error code. databytes counts bytes as stored on disk, not as transmitted through the network. It does not count the qmail-smtpd Received line, the qmail-queue Received line, or the envelope. If the environment variable DATABYTES is set, it overrides databytes. AFAIK there's no easy way to implement a per-user basis. Or you'd have to try to experiment with setting DATABYTES in tcprules/ tcpserver. databytes should be in /var/qmail/control Thanks Jacob HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: digest version?
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 05:54:18PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a digest version of this mailing list? Nope, sorry Since it's a very high volume list IMHO it wouldn't be advisable Brandon Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Newbie question
On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 10:39:36PM -0700, Chad Cranston wrote: Changed the /var/qmail/rc file to read this qmail-start ./Maildir/ splogger qmail and now i get this error message in the mail log starting delivery 8: msg 20539 to local chad@"domain.com" deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/ This error is probably due to a rights problem or a non existant $HOME/Maildir/ did you do : su -l [username] maildirmake $HOME/Maildir ??? do i need the ./Maildir/ to be in quotes ?? You need to create the Maildir AS the user in who's home directory you're creating it. Chad HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Multilog: fatal: the final answer (hopefully)
On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:55:14AM +0200, clemensF wrote: Steffan Hoeke: "Ok, the /var/log/qmail permissions weren't the problem /var/qmail/supervise and all in it needed to be owned by qmaill as well ;)" why that? No other reason than : Before the permission change qmail start would freak out with unable to change to current directory. When i changed the permissions on /var/qmail/supervise and it's subs to qmaill.qmail it worked like a charm. I know it's not a scientific approach, but i couldn't find anything in lwq about the proper permissions (Dave, if you're reading this ;-)) clemens Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: How to Repair Queue
On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 03:06:39PM +0700, PipE wrote: in 3 days ago i try to cp /var/qmail/queue/mess to other directory and make link at /var/qmail/queue/ in name mess But i cannot use So i find program to move queue from qmail.org But after i up this daemon again i still got Error message like this [snipped error message] Have Any idea to repair it ? Have you tried looking for qmail queuefix ? Or was that the program you used to move the queue in the first place ? Should have a link on www.qmail.org somewhere ;-) PipE HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Multilog: fatal: the final answer (hopefully)
On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:21:33PM -0400, Dave Sill wrote: Steffan Hoeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:55:14AM +0200, clemensF wrote: Steffan Hoeke: "Ok, the /var/log/qmail permissions weren't the problem /var/qmail/supervise and all in it needed to be owned by qmaill as well ;)" why that? No other reason than : Before the permission change qmail start would freak out with unable to change to current directory. When i changed the permissions on /var/qmail/supervise and it's subs to qmaill.qmail it worked like a charm. The real reason is that multilog runs as user qmaill. I know it's not a scientific approach, but i couldn't find anything in lwq about the proper permissions (Dave, if you're reading this ;-)) It's in there: Then set up the log directories: mkdir -p /var/log/qmail/smtpd chown qmaill /var/log/qmail /var/log/qmail/smtpd Nope, this talks about the /var/log/qmail subtree. I'm talking about the /var/qmail/supervise subtree ;-) -Dave HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Suggestion...
Daniel, On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 01:43:45AM -0500, Snowcrash wrote: This one may be in the works already.. but has there been any thought into adding folder capabilities? I have some users that owuld like to be able to create custom folders for mail sorting. IMHO this is *not* something qmail should be able to do. It's more a MUA thing. Most MUA's i know support creating your own folders to save mail in. If you want to automate it you could use something like procmail. Daniel Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetz, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Multilog: fatal: the final answer (hopefully)
On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:55:26AM -0500, Tony Campisi wrote: Back in March someone asked about the multilog: fatal: unable to open directory /var/log/qmail: access denied problem. Dave asked that person to Post the output of: ls -ld /var/log/qmail /var/log /var / cat /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run but I searched the archive and didn't see their reply. Since I am getting the same problem, I will do as Dave suggests. I'm afraid you didn't look well enough, or the archive is broken ;-) I posted the results of the command as well and provided my own 'solution' "Ok, the /var/log/qmail permissions weren't the problem /var/qmail/supervise and all in it needed to be owned by qmaill as well ;)" HTH, Steffan [root@* /var/log/qmail]# ls -ld /var/log/qmail /var/log /var / drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 1024 Jun 21 16:05 / drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 1024 May 31 14:33 /var drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 1024 Jun 25 04:02 /var/log drwxrwxr-x 6 qmaill qmail1024 May 31 14:37 /var/log/qmail - [root@* /var/log/qmail]# cat /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail - BTW - I am also getting the 'multilog: fatal: unable to lock directory /var/log/qmail/smtpd: access denied' error. [root@* /var/log/qmail]# dir drwxrwxr-x 2 879 root 1024 May 31 11:29 qmail-pop3d drwxrwxr-x 2 879 root 1024 Jun 26 10:31 qmail-send drwxrwxr-x 2 qmaill qmail1024 Jun 26 10:16 qmail-smtpd drwxrwxr-x 2 qmaill nofiles 1024 Jun 1 11:22 smtpd -- I'll gladly give any more info if needed. Thanks again, tony.campisi -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: multilog
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 02:42:26PM +0200, Yuliy Minchev wrote: hi Can someone help or point some URL, on how to setup and use multilog with qmail? http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html TIA yuliy HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Problems with my email address and the list...
Hi, One possibility is that you've been automagically unsubscribed ... try re-subscribing with the same email address and check the ezmlm reply. This will tell you if you're still subscribed. HTH, Steffan On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 07:28:44PM +, terius wrote: So... I got the email from Clifford Thurber, Steffan Hoeke, David Sill and Adrian Urquhart... Thanks guys... but I didn't get any mail from the list not even the one I sent... what can be happening? -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: successful delivery
On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 11:52:16AM +0800, Kimberly Vher wrote: Dear Qmail User, Iam new in using qmail i was using sendmail before but since a lot of features in qmail i want to migrate from sendmail to qmail using linux. I have set up all the requirements in Life w/ qmail. Install and follow all the procedure there. then i want my delivery to use Maildir. I make my /var/qmail/rc file liek this : # Bunch of comments here exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start './Maildir/' splogger qmail Try it without the ' ' before and after the ./Maildir/ directive ... then i make a maildirmake in my users home directory and in /etc/skel directory then i create a .qmail file /home and in /etc/skel. What's in the .qmail file ? i have now 2 users in my /home vhernz and darna total 2 drwx-- 3 darnadarna1024 Jun 26 11:36 darna (subdir of darna) drwx-- 5 darnadarna1024 Jun 26 11:36 Maildir drwxr-xr-x 3 vhernz vhernz 1024 Jun 26 11:33 vhernz (sub dir of vhernz) drwx-- 5 vhernz vhernz 1024 Jun 26 11:33 Maildir then when i tried to send a mail to both user it was successfully delivered : below are the log files Jun 26 11:52:13 qmail qmail: 961991533.453338 info msg 95445: bytes 1311 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 804 uid 502 Jun 26 11:52:13 qmail qmail: 961991533.566712 starting delivery 4: msg 95445 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jun 26 11:52:13 qmail qmail: 961991533.566902 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 Jun 26 11:52:13 qmail qmail: 961991533.566970 starting delivery 5: msg 95445 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jun 26 11:52:13 qmail qmail: 961991533.567032 status: local 0/10 remote 2/20 Jun 26 11:52:17 qmail qmail: 961991537.21 delivery 5: success: 216.42.80.32_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_961991408_qp_11195/ Jun 26 11:52:17 qmail qmail: 961991537.216878 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 Jun 26 11:52:17 qmail qmail: 961991537.350163 delivery 4: success: 216.42.80.32_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_961991408_qp_11196/ Jun 26 11:52:17 qmail qmail: 961991537.350353 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Jun 26 11:52:17 qmail qmail: 961991537.350414 end msg 95445 According to this, it's a remote delivery ?!?!? IP 216.42.80.32 resolves to univac.netsville.com while vv.com resolves to 216.43.80.200 ... then when i tried to check the mail in /home/vhernz/Maildir/new or /home/darna/Maildir/new i found no mail for both users... what is the problem here where can i see those mails? any misconfiguration ive done here ? thank you very much for your help in advance coz i really need to work this out by the end of the month :) thanks! HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: INSTALL.maildir - Clairification please!
On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 05:26:42AM -0500, Mark Thomas wrote: -Original Message- From: Steffan Hoeke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 12:51 AM To: Mark Thomas Subject: Re: INSTALL.maildir - Clairification please! On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 05:02:02PM -0500, Mark Thomas wrote: -Original Message- From: Steffan Hoeke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 3:15 PM To: Mark Thomas Subject: Re: INSTALL.maildir - Clairification please! I simply omitted the rc files and put qmail start in my rc ;-) Works like a charm ;) (( I put csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc ' in the inetd.conf, it is working fine also) Hmm, my gut tells me that's not the way to go ;) Right Again. I thought it was working, but after remming it out, it still was loading anyway from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/qmail.sh which is a symbolic link to /var/qmail/rc. But I think the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/qmail.sh is what is actually running on startup. I think this because I copied a "batch file" that I had wrote over to the directory and gave it a .sh extension, and it runs on boot. This is what is in the rc file. #!/bin/sh # Using splogger to send the log through syslog. # Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default. exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail The shouldn't be needed. And again, you're telling qmail to deliver to an mbox file named Mailbox ? I thought you wanted to default to Maildir delivery ? I had to add the after qmail on the second line, because it would not complete loading (ie.. apache loads just before qmail, and it would just sit there loading apache and never move. It's no longer loading apache, it's running qmail in the foreground, the ctrl-c terminates qmail (which is *not* what you want :-)) I had to hit ctrl-c to get it to the login prompt, and this was unloading the qmail rc. Also why I thought it was running out of inetd.conf. qmail-smtpd and qmail-pop3d can run from inetd, but it's *not* 'supported' I really suggest you take another look at Life with qmail. It worked for me on my OBSD system, so it should work for your FBSD system as well ! Does your rc file have the at the end? Nope, it doesn't, as per lwq I have to take another stab at converting over to ./Maildir. When I change the rc file over to ./Maildir, all mail works outbound, but I have trouble on inbound. That's logical, since ./Maildir is considered by qmail to be an mbox file with the filename Maildir. I know it can be a bit confusing, but if you want qmail to deliver to a Maildir the proper notation would be ./Maildir/ ^ Note the extra / at the end there. Root still says access denied on ./Maildir when he receives a message and my other users says that ./Maildir is a directory and errors out. what's the contents of .qmail-root ? If it's ./Maildir/ it won't work, since qmail DOES NOT deliver mail to root you have to put something like bob in .qmail-root, so mail gets forwarded to user 'bob' Again, it should read ./Maildir/ ! ./Maildir to qmail means a mbox file with the name Maildir. The conversion looks pretty simple, I have to look again at the changes I made. G If at first you don't succeed ;-) MarkT. What's the problem with maildir2mbox ? I'm not sure how to use it! I have it in my /var/qmail/bin directory. There are wrappers for mail, elm and pine in /var/qmail/bin called qail, elq and pinq. they automagically call maildir2mbox before starting mail, elm or pine I guess the reason I thought it wasn't working, was the fact that mail was not seing the mail in ./Mailbox anymore, but it is actually qmail now and not sendmail ??? Sorry, but i've got no idea what you mean with this :-( HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Mailbox
On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 12:32:18PM +0200, steffen wrote: Hello ! i have install qmail step by step ala qmail/doc ... now i get the msg "Mailbox is a Directory" what did i wrong ? What does the line you start qmail with read ? You've probably told qmail to deliver to a mailbox in mbox format called Mailbox, which is one large file which contains all messages. You've probably got an entry in $HOME which reads: drwxr-xr-x 2 [user] [group] 512 Jun 24 17:30 Mailbox while it should read: -rw-r--r-- 1 [user] [group] 0 Jun 24 17:30 Mailbox Note the lacking of 'd' in the second line You should try rm -rf'ing the Mailbox directory, after checking there's nothing of value contained in it After this qmail should automagically create the Mailbox file. bye steffen HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: INSTALL.maildir - Clairification please!
On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 11:32:35AM -0500, Mark Thomas wrote: Would someone help me out here just a bit. I am Sooo, confused! Any pointers or documents that explain some of this would be greatly appreciated.. Have you tried Dave Sill's "Life with qmail" ? TIA,, MarkT. Here's where I am in the INSTALL.maildir document. Here's how to set up qmail to use maildir for your incoming mail: This Command does not work What error does it generate ? Neither does maildirmake $HOME/Maildir, although the command maildirmake is there. Are you running it as the user the maildir is for ? What command line are you using ? Should be something like : % su [username] % cd /home/[username] % maildirmake Maildir % exit providing you're currently running as a user able to 'su' this creates the following structure in the user's home dir: /home/[username]/Maildir/ /home/[username]/Maildir/new/ /home/[username]/Maildir/cur/ /home/[username]/Maildir/tmp/ What is the deal with the "%" as the first portion of the command? The % is like the C:\ prompt in DOS % maildirmake $HOME/Maildir % echo ./Maildir/ ~/.qmail Make sure you include the trailing slash on Maildir/. The system administrator can set up Maildir as the default for everybody by creating a maildir in the new-user template directory and replacing ./Mailbox with ./Maildir/ in /var/qmail/rc. maildir in the new-user template?? create directory called maildir? Nope, run maildirmake in the skeleton directory where is the new-user template directory on FreeBSD? What is the new-user template file called by default? Dunno on FreeBSD but on OpenBSD it's /etc/skel/ and /usr/share/skel Until your MUA supports maildir, you'll probably want to convert maildir format to (gaaack) mbox format. I've supplied a maildir2mbox utility that does the trick, along with some tiny qail and elq and pinq wrappers that call maildir2mbox before calling Mail or elm or pine. * Does mail(MUA), I think binmail, support maildir? This is what came default on * the bare system load. How do you implement maildir2mbox and (gaaack)? HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: INSTALL.maildir - Clairification please!
- control the delivery of mail messages DESCRIPTION Normally the qmail-local program delivers each incoming message to your system mailbox, homedir/Mailbox, where homedir is your home directory. It can instead write the mail to a different file or directory, forward it to another address, distribute it to a mailing list, or even execute programs, all under your control. THE QMAIL FILE To change qmail-local's behavior, set up a .qmail file in your home directory. [etc..] I hate to ask so many questions, but it is one of the best ways to figure these things out. My experience is with Novell/NT and desktops. This is my first stab at Unix. G Been there, done that, asked it ;-) I want to go back, if the original writer of the Install documents doesn't mind and do a modification of these documents for FreeBSD 4.0, in particular. I know I would have been glad to get my hands on something like this before I got started. That whould be the author of qmail ;) The other way is to ask Dave Sill if he would like to add an OS specific section to his Life with qmail document I already have a bunch of documentation on setting up Apache 1.3.12 that I want to put out for some other people to get ahold of. I find alot of people asking the same questions that I had trouble with. Same thing with DNS. I am going to take my other PIII 600 and setup a second box with this one to reference when I do a final re-write on the install differences for FreeBSD. It was mostly diretory differences and file name differences, but it sure makes it easy when the doc says go here and edit this, and it is really there to be edited. Thanks for everyones comments. I really appreciate the help. I hope to help others in return. When I get finished with the docs that I am going to re-write for FreeBSD, I'll send some periodic mails to the list so others will know where to find them. Thanks again, Mark Thomas. Special thanks to you, Steffan Hoeke... No problem ! I needed a lot of help when i started as well (same background) and 'the list' was a valuable resource HTH, Steffan PS: i'm a subscriber of this list, so there's no need to send it to me the list ... TIA -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: pop3d problem
On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 03:22:25AM +0200, Jens Georg wrote: hi, i have several testemails waiting. any idea, what's still wrong ? How do you *know* those mails are in $HOME/Maildir/ ? i don't :-). they could, just as well, be in $HOME/Mailbox or /var/spool/mail/[username] yes, they are in /var/spool/mail/georg so, how to get them to /home/georg/Maildir ??? Hmmm, dunno that one by heart, i started using Maildir from the time i started using qmail ;) You could use a mua that supports mbox AND Maildir to move the messages from one to the other Mutt could do the trick ;) How did you check there are actually messages in $HOME/Maildir ? there are none. regards, jens HTH, Steffan BTW: i got your message 4 times :( I'm subscribed to the list, so there's no need to add me to the addressee list -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: local delivery strangeness?
On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 06:53:06PM +0200, Robert Sander wrote: Hi! Where has this message gone? Have you checked /var/qmail/alias/Mailbox or /var/qmail/alias/Maildir/ ? If memory serves that's where messages end up with which qmail doesn't know what to do... The other alternative is the postmaster's mailbox Jun 23 18:39:05 einstein qmail: 961778345.318647 new msg 16012 Jun 23 18:39:05 einstein qmail: 961778345.318807 info msg 16012: bytes 294 from qp 30890 uid 71 Jun 23 18:39:05 einstein qmail: 961778345.326744 starting delivery 27207: msg 16012 to local @einstein.epigenomics.de Jun 23 18:39:05 einstein qmail: 961778345.327033 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Jun 23 18:39:05 einstein qmail: 961778345.329393 delivery 27207: success: Jun 23 18:39:05 einstein qmail: 961778345.329472 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Jun 23 18:39:05 einstein qmail: 961778345.329529 end msg 16012 It came from me, speaking smtp over telnet and doing a mistake with mail from and rcpt to ;-)... Greetings -- Robert Sander Epigenomics GmbH www.epigenomics.de Kastanienallee 24 +493024345330 10435 Berlin -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: multilog problems
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 11:18:07PM +0200, Steffan Hoeke wrote: On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 02:17:34PM -0400, Dave Sill wrote: Clifford Thurber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: multilog: fatal: unable to switch to current directory: access denied I know that this probably involves a permissions problem but here is where I am stumped. Here is are the permissions of /var/log/qmail/smtpd : root@cygnus:/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log ls -l /var/log/qmail/smtpd total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 qmaill qmail512 Jun 21 15:49 ./ drwxr-xr-x 3 qmaill qmail512 Jun 21 15:49 ../ Access to a directory requires access to all of its parent directories. Try: ls -ld /var/log/qmail /var/log /var / -Dave Ok, i'm having the same problem, the output of the previous command (on my OpenBSD system is: drwxr-xr-x 16 rootwheel 512 May 6 13:24 / drwxr-xr-x 28 rootwheel 512 May 18 08:30 /var/ drwxr-xr-x 8 rootwheel 2560 Jun 22 22:50 /var/log/ drwxr-xr-x 3 qmaill qmail 2560 Jun 22 22:50 /var/log/qmail So, how to fix without breaking anything else ;) Ok, the /var/log/qmail permissions weren't the problem /var/qmail/supervise and all in it need to be owned by qmaill as well ;) -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: pop3d problem
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 02:34:24PM +0200, Jens Georg wrote: hi, today i installed pop3d using ucspi-tcp 0.84. whenever i try to fetch email via pop3 using netscape messenger on a windows box, netscape says: "this user has no $HOME/Maildir. Enter a new password". what does this mean ? It means exactly what it says ;-) The user you are trying to fetch mail as doesn't have a Maildir in his/her home directory, did you use maildirmake for those users ? The following directories should be present: /home/[username]/Maildir/cur /home/[username]/Maildir/tmp /home/[username]/Maildir/new jens HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: multilog problems
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 02:17:34PM -0400, Dave Sill wrote: Clifford Thurber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: multilog: fatal: unable to switch to current directory: access denied I know that this probably involves a permissions problem but here is where I am stumped. Here is are the permissions of /var/log/qmail/smtpd : root@cygnus:/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log ls -l /var/log/qmail/smtpd total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 qmaill qmail512 Jun 21 15:49 ./ drwxr-xr-x 3 qmaill qmail512 Jun 21 15:49 ../ Access to a directory requires access to all of its parent directories. Try: ls -ld /var/log/qmail /var/log /var / -Dave Ok, i'm having the same problem, the output of the previous command (on my OpenBSD system is: drwxr-xr-x 16 rootwheel 512 May 6 13:24 / drwxr-xr-x 28 rootwheel 512 May 18 08:30 /var/ drwxr-xr-x 8 rootwheel 2560 Jun 22 22:50 /var/log/ drwxr-xr-x 3 qmaill qmail 2560 Jun 22 22:50 /var/log/qmail So, how to fix without breaking anything else ;) TIA, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: pop3d problem
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 10:38:46PM +0200, Jens Georg wrote: hi, The user you are trying to fetch mail as doesn't have a Maildir in his/her home directory, did you use maildirmake for those users ? no, i didn't :-(. so, after running maildirmake /home/georg/Maildir netscape messenger can connect, but there is nothing to fetch, although i have several testemails waiting. any idea, what's still wrong ? How do you *know* those mails are in $HOME/Maildir/ ? they could, just as well, be in $HOME/Mailbox or /var/spool/mail/[username] How did you check there are actually messages in $HOME/Maildir ? HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: qmail error
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 03:45:16PM +0800, Vince wrote: when i run qmail and check the ps x if it is running to my machine there is svscan /service running but when i try to send mail i got this error The connection to the server has failed. Account: '208.235.228.2', Server: '208.235.228.2', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10061, Error Number: 0x800CCC0E what is my problem here? What happens when you telnet to port 25 ? My telnet session is successful : bash-2.04# telnet 208.235.228.2 25 Trying 208.235.228.2... Connected to 208.235.228.2. Escape character is '^]'. HELO 220 qmail.dnb.com ESMTP 502 unimplemented (#5.5.1) 250 qmail.dnb.com So it's probably a setting in your Outlook (express) Client HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: maildir
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 05:32:16PM +0800, Vince wrote: all my incoming mails are gone (i cant find them) even if i have a succesful mail delivery my /var/qmail/rc file content: exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start ./Maildir is this correct? Nope, you need another / after Maildir it should be ./Maildir/ ... if you omit the last / qmail sees it as an mbox named Maildir. HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Help on qmail-qstat
On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 07:02:55PM +0530, System Administrator wrote: Hi dave thanks for your help. but i have a problem now. i.e. there is no file with that name in the control directory. just by creating that file, help ? please let me know as soon as possible. If the file isn't there it defaults to the mentioned 604800, i.e. one week. If you create the file with a lower value in it, that's the value that will be used. regards, HTH, Steffan On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Dave Kelly wrote: If you have messages in the queue that are 4-5 days old, chances are probably good that they are messages that can't be delivered for one reason or another. After a week, they should clear themselves out by bouncing to postmaster with a message stating why the were undeliverable. You can change how long stuff remains in the queue by putting the number of seconds you want in /var/qmail/control/queuelifetime. The default is 604800, which is one week. -D -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: ezmlm-sub question?
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 03:19:48PM -0400, cdowns wrote: i am trying to add a bulk list to my server and using this script i get the runtime error: ( ezmlm-sub: fatal: dir and dot must start with slash ), does anyone know what this means? my script is below. thanks christopher m downs #!/bin/sh ## this is to use ezmlm-sub function ## to add a list of e-mail users to ## a particular list. # -- ## example :ListLoc=/var/qmail/alias/lists/listname $ListLoc=/var/qmail/alias/lists/test6 Remove the $ from $ListLoc The $ is used to reference variables not to define them ... InputFile=list.txt ## # -- ## pull names from list using @ for name in $(cat $InputFile) do echo "Subscribing $name to $ListLoc" ## there is a comment here so i know the execution is out of play. #ezmlm-sub $listLoc $name $listLoc is not defined, it's $ListLoc Variable names are case sensitive ... done ## - # End of File -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Problem wit POP
On Sat, Jun 03, 2000 at 10:40:58AM -0600, Bolivar Diaz Galarza wrote: Hi, We are a small ISP with two Points of Prescence (POP), this POP are connected via DS0 with a 64K bandwidth, when clients in this POP try to check the e-mail they get the following error: El servidor finalizó inesperadamente la conexión. Puede que haya un problema en el servidor, un problema de red o que haya estado inactivo un periodo largo. Cuenta: 'mail.ml.com.mx', Servidor: 'mail.ml.com.mx', Protocolo: POP3, Puerto: 110, Seguridad (SSL): No, Número de error: 0x800CCC0F Maybe an english translation would make the troubleshooting easier I hope you recognize the error, I had seen it when the server stoped working (when i was running Exchange Server), but in this case the server works fine in the main office. Any ideas Bolivar, -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: I want to leave this list
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 09:07:17AM +0200, Paulo Jan wrote: OK, so they are stupid. Now, let's help them out so they don't have to waste bandwidth and everybody's time. Lets send them several messages each day with something in the body that all mail clients can read that tells them how to unsubscribe. After all, they are stupid, give them something they can't miss. Don't burry it in the header, don't require them to keep something, don't require them to remember a web site, just attach the information to the end of each message; then those stupid people will feel real stupid if they miss it. # Based on my experience in other mailing lists, I can guarantee you that, after adding unsubbing information in the footer of the message, you will *still* receive mails from people asking "remove me" or "how do I unsub". Maybe we should all make a habit of replying to those questions with the "Idiot's guide to unsubscribe manual" Dave Sill posted on this list a couple of weeks ago ;-) My $0.001 worth G Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: One SMTP connection Multiple recipient?
Hi, Check the qmail archives for the "Multi-RCPT vs. Single RCPT delivery" thread on the mailing list archive. This thread discussed exactly what you'r asking about HTH, Steffan On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 09:54:48PM +0800, Jianping Song wrote: Hello, If several recipients of the same mail are on the same server, such as hotmail, the mail can be sent to those recipients within one smtp connection with multiple RCPT TO: instruction. I know sendmail can do it. When I want to do the same thing with qmail-inject: qmail-inject -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] testmail I find that qmail does not act as i think. In this situation, qmail will queue the mail, but will connect to hotmail.com twice, each for seperate users. Am i missing something here? How can i do the same thing with qmail? Thanks. --- Best regards Songmailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: virus scanner
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 04:14:05AM +0800, Mark Lo wrote: Hi, I would like to know which virus would work with Linux and qmail ?? scan4virus (http://www.geocities.com/jhaar/scan4virus ) provides a wrapper which supports a number of major virus scanners Also try checking the mailing list archives for the discussions started in ligtht of the recent outbreak... ;-) A number of scanners are mentioned in that discussion. Thanks Mark HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: ezmlm list creation problem
On Mon, May 15, 2000 at 04:07:12PM -0400, cdowns wrote: ok qmail works great / ezmlm works great , i got all the ezmlm-web.cgi running with .htaccess files but the problem i have is no matter who logs in over the cgi interface and creates a list , it goes under my account? how do i change to a global account? and also instead of having a list name like [EMAIL PROTECTED] how do i get [EMAIL PROTECTED]?? any suggestions would be great! thanks Which user does ezmlm-web.cgi run as ? is it setuid alias or . As it seems from your mail ezmlm-web.cgi is running 'under' your account if you want [EMAIL PROTECTED] ezmlm-web.cgi should run as user alias The easiest way is to change the settings in index.c and compile it to index.cgi, per README.install instructions of ezmlm-web chris. HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Purpose of this list
On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 03:55:31AM -0700, James wrote: I've received a couple of messages both on this list, and personal email that consistently suggest that I read the manual before posting here. Of course I realize that reading the manual, going through the steps of Life With Qmail or viewing the FAQs is the best first step.. but once one takes every step mentioned, and things STILL don't work, it's very hard to maintain calm as people *keep* suggesting that it's a good idea to read the manual. I don't know if you did this, but it MIGHT be a good idea to actually STATE that you've read Dave Sill's LWQ and the FAQ's and the appropriate man page before posting I don't know if you've noticed, but there are *a lot* of questions posted to this list which could have *easily* been resolved by reading the appropriate material. The people on this list are not *mind readers*. If you don't tell them you've read all the material they, logically, assume that you haven't. Some people find it easier to ask ("stupid") questions on the list then to read the rather plentyful documentation. Another recent example was that someone changed his domain name in a post on this list. When he finally told the domain name the problem was *immediately* solved... And one other soapbox spew.. When I receive a question such as "Are you sure you are talking to [your ip address here]?" and I answer "How would I know?".. this doesn't mean I haven't tested ping, or whois, or whereis etc.. because I have, it means that if there is some *other* way of knowing, please tell me now. You're right, but if you don't *STATE* that you've done ping, whois, nslookup etc. again nobody *knows* you did this ;-) Whatever I learn on this list I will do what I can to give back to those who have questions, or run into the same problems I have had here. And even though I try to be thorough in my question posts, I guess I need to be more thorough still with every step I have tried.. because I only ask questions here AFTER I have tried every step I can find in either a FAQ or HOWTO. This may be a natural path/assumption for you, but not for others on this list. James My 2 cents worth, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Ezmlm web front
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 02:23:47PM +0100, Rodney Edwards wrote: Does any one know anyway to create a web front for ezmlm administration e.g. to subscribe un-subscribe etc.. Try ezmlm-web... http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~guy/ezmlm/#ezmlm-web HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: location of Unsent messages
On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 01:00:46PM +0800, Mark Lo wrote: Hi, I would like to know where is the location of unsent messages. As I have read this from the manual...it should be placed under /var/qmail/queue. But, in that directory, i couldn't find anything but i know i have some messages in the queue dir..by looking at my log file. Also, under /var/qmail/queue/...i have some sub-directory...such as info, local, mess, remote.etc...and under those directory i got some directories...and the name is 0 10 12 15..etc.. I wonder what is it..?? Try using /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread What exactly are you trying to achieve ? Thank You mark HTH, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:17:32PM +0100, Alex Shipp wrote: I think this therefore eloquently answers my previous question and confirms my original feeling that it is a bad idea to post virus warnings to this group. I don't agree. Posting Virus warning to a mailing list like this _can_ be a good idea, as long as they are *VALID*. The Cat Colonic hoax has been going on for quite some time and is to be found on all major Anti-Virus site, categorized as such! The content of the Cat Colonic mail makes it obvious it's a hoax. C'mon guys, crashing an aquarium ? Not possible unless it's an IP drive one G I'ts IMHO not smart to blindly post that kind of messages anywhere you can, *before* checking with the major AV providers to see if it't not listed as a hoax... Well, that's my 2 cent's worth. Steffan - Original Message - From: Kai MacTane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2000 23:22 Subject: RE: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante*** At 5/8/2000 02:52 PM -0700, Bryan Hundven wrote or quoted: Could we possibly get this in english? Please? Very loose translation: "There's a big, bad virus out there, which is even worse than Melissa. Be very afraid. It will eat your hard drive, crash your aquarium, and max out your credit cards, and that's just before breakfast." -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Off Topic: Posting virus warnings? (was Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***)
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 07:17:00AM +0100, Alex Shipp wrote: Posting Virus warning to a mailing list like this _can_ be a good idea, as long as they are *VALID*. Well, *I* know they are valid, because I work in the AV industry. (although of course I'm not infallible...but that's another story) However, if other people see me posting, they will also be encouraged to post, and the whole thing could quickly degenerate. G My previous remark 'solves' the degenerating problem... If only people would check a couple of AV sites before posting 'world wide', 'important' fake warnings the world would be a better place. I'm still trying to educate everybody i know to *first* check the AV sites before warning me about a fake virus i already know about. Doesn't the degenerating problem occur on AV dedicated lists? Or are the moderated? Bye, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Web front-end to mail service
On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 09:01:23AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Someone just asked a very interesting question but has not received a definitive answer: Is there a web based front-end (read "Can Isend receive mail for mail accounts") for qmail? Thanks Do you mean an interface like sqWebMail (http://www.inter7.com/sqwebmail) or a web based _administrative_ tool like webmin (http://www.webmin.com) which has a qmail administration module ? What the original poster wanted was, amongst others, a way to remove messages for other users (i.e. customers) if their mailbox was over it's size limit... That's, IMHO, a completely different question than the one you're asking now ;-) Greetz, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: upgrade to 1.1.12i -= strange behaviour :-(
On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 09:28:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this has to do with having more then one instance of mutt open. Editing a message, closing out this instance of mutt, and going to the parent, or first instance and accessing the same message or mailbox. That's wat i thought the first time i saw the message ;-) I checked with ps if there were more instances active, which wasn't the case However, I am not sure. I have seen this in all instances of mutt, and not just 1.1.12i. On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 11:36:58PM +0200, Steffan Hoeke uttered: | Hi, | | After an upgrade to 1.1.12i I get the strange behaviour that every now and then I get the message | "Mailbox externally modified, flags may be wrong" | I don't know what's modifying my Maildir :-( | The only change AFAIK is the mentioned upgrade ... | | TIA, | Steffan | -- | http://therookie.dyndns.org -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
qmailanalog - matchup
Hi, I've (finally) started using qmailanalog, but when i try to pass a specific maillog through matchup i get the following error : matchup: fatal: unable to write to fd 5: file descriptor not open I'm using a script to pass maillog maillog.1 thu 7 to matchup. 2 of the logs generate this error :-( I've attached the script, just in case. I know it's not great programming, it's more 'brute force', but i'm a newbie to unix and haven't gotten the hang of scripting yet :-( Thanks, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org # ## Which shell to use for processing # #!/usr/local/bin/bash # ## Where should temporary files be stored # TempLoc=/tmp # ## Where can i find the log files # LogLoc=/var/log cd $TempLoc echo preprocessing maillog.7 echo -n ' copying' cp $LogLoc/maillog.7.gz . echo ' .' echo -n ' unpacking' gunzip ./maillog.7.gz echo ' .' echo -n ' filtering' awk '{$1="";$2="";$3="";$4="";$5="";print}' ./maillog.7 | matchup ./matchup.out echo ' .' echo preprocessing maillog.6 echo -n ' copying' cp $LogLoc/maillog.6.gz . echo ' .' echo -n ' unpacking' gunzip ./maillog.6.gz echo ' .' echo -n ' filtering' awk '{$1="";$2="";$3="";$4="";$5="";print}' ./maillog.6 | matchup ./matchup.out echo ' .' echo preprocessing maillog.5 echo -n ' copying' cp $LogLoc/maillog.5.gz . echo ' .' echo -n ' unpacking' gunzip ./maillog.5.gz echo ' .' echo -n ' filtering' awk '{$1="";$2="";$3="";$4="";$5="";print}' ./maillog.5 | matchup ./matchup.out echo ' .' echo preprocessing maillog.4 echo -n ' copying' cp $LogLoc/maillog.4.gz . echo ' .' echo -n ' unpacking' gunzip ./maillog.4.gz echo ' .' echo -n ' filtering' awk '{$1="";$2="";$3="";$4="";$5="";print}' ./maillog.4 | matchup ./matchup.out echo ' .' echo preprocessing maillog.3 echo -n ' copying' cp $LogLoc/maillog.3.gz . echo ' .' echo -n ' unpacking' gunzip ./maillog.3.gz echo ' .' echo -n ' filtering' awk '{$1="";$2="";$3="";$4="";$5="";print}' ./maillog.3 | matchup ./matchup.out echo ' .' echo preprocessing maillog.2 echo -n ' copying' cp $LogLoc/maillog.2.gz . echo ' .' echo -n ' unpacking' gunzip ./maillog.2.gz echo ' .' echo -n ' filtering' awk '{$1="";$2="";$3="";$4="";$5="";print}' ./maillog.2 | matchup ./matchup.out echo ' .' echo preprocessing maillog.1 echo -n ' copying' cp $LogLoc/maillog.1.gz . echo ' .' echo -n ' unpacking' gunzip ./maillog.1.gz echo ' .' echo -n ' filtering' awk '{$1="";$2="";$3="";$4="";$5="";print}' ./maillog.1 | matchup ./matchup.out echo ' .' echo preprocessing maillog.0 echo -n ' copying' cp $LogLoc/maillog.0.gz . echo ' .' echo -n ' unpacking' gunzip ./maillog.0.gz echo ' .' echo -n ' filtering' awk '{$1="";$2="";$3="";$4="";$5="";print}' ./maillog.0 | matchup ./matchup.out echo ' .' echo preprocessing maillog echo -n ' copying' cp $LogLoc/maillog . echo ' .' echo -n ' unpacking' echo -n ' not needed' echo ' .' echo -n ' filtering' awk '{$1="";$2="";$3="";$4="";$5="";print}' ./maillog | matchup ./matchup.out echo ' .' echo cleaning up echo -n ' removing maillog.7' rm maillog.7 echo ' .' echo -n ' removing maillog.6' rm maillog.6 echo ' .' echo -n ' removing maillog.5' rm maillog.5 echo ' .' echo -n ' removing maillog.4' rm maillog.4 echo ' .' echo -n ' removing maillog.3' rm maillog.3 echo ' .' echo -n ' removing maillog.2' rm maillog.2 echo ' .' echo -n ' removing maillog.1' rm maillog.1 echo ' .' echo -n ' removing maillog.0' rm maillog.0 echo ' .' echo -n ' removing maillog' rm maillog echo ' .'
Re: cant pop
On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 11:25:41AM -0700, Les Higger wrote: ah... finally saw the error of my ways.. I didnt know makemaildir needed ./ didnt show that in the install.maildir.. now i have one problem left.. i send mail to bert.. mail winds up in Mailbox not Maildir. I missed something.. :-( How are you starting qmail (i.e. what's the command line for qmail-start ? If you want to use maildirs, it should say ./Maildir/ instead of ./Mailbox *++* * Les Higger ITAF , Greetz, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: Home Directory ?
On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 12:51:11PM -0600, Jim Ray wrote: I am trying to set up qmail for the first time and am having diffuculty with it. Every time I start qmail this appears in the log. "Unable to switch to home directory" I went through all the dirs and files and checked permissions and checked the home dirs in passwd. did you check INSTALL.ids ? did you use an RPM or compile the source manually ? TIA. Jim Ray Greetz, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org
Re: qmail says #5.7.1
On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:29:38PM +0200, Max B. Khudik wrote: It says "553 sorry, this domain is not in the list of allowed rcpthost (#5.7.1.)." What's the contents of your rcpthosts ? the contents are only one line with name of my domain e.g.: start of file infocomsc.net endof file However, it normally sends and receives messages to and from hotmail.com. Seems one of the entries in rcpthosts is hotmail ;-) Nope, no hotmail there or I should tell qmail somehow that it must receive any messages for any host from clients. But how? I've read english and russian versions of qmail install-HOWTO but in vain. I almost got desperate. G I know the feeling ... So you have gone through these stage and you surely know how I do want to be helped. ;-) Yep, the people in this list are usually fast to help newbies ;-) They usually ask for the output of qmail-showctl, it gives an overview of the config options used... There _must_ be some reference to HotMail in one of the config-files, otherwise qmail would _never_ send to it... So what's the output of qmail-showctl ? Regards, Maximorus Greetz, Steffan -- http://therookie.dyndns.org