Re: [qmailtoaster] restrict long subjects
ashok wrote: Hi All,, Can we restrict the number of characters in Subject Field ?? How do we do this in QT? There is not currently a way to do this in Qmail, AFAIK. I have never seen a patch to allow this functionality. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [qmailtoaster] some mails get lost between qmail-smtp and qmail-send
Hey getting worse and worse .. On the 3 toatsers I got here 2 fc5 1 centos 4.4 All three have the same issues, simscan never finsihes the scanning either coz the mail is cut or it gets cut in the process I think it is a pretty serious issue considering the same mail bcc cc reached the other smtp servers Philip wrote: Hello every1 Sorry to bring back this subject but I have been monitoring 3 diff QT and a few messages get lost for no reason I sent a mail with some cad dwg plan attached to 1 qt, 1 yahoo,1gmail,1hotmail and a few of my other servers all arrived but for the QT server .. I see the mail in /var/qmail/simscan/somedir/some_msg it is as I reported not ended the mail is just somehow cut ... CJf9lAiZdIsBQ/zEDAADAADAACAOECwgKAMFEsUQ9ZWAPgBAawBAAACt SeF0Id/TjZz0L7a9hAPLLE3Gury0DAADAADLkCwgKBMFEpUQ9cLb JgBB+0CtSiF0IcKiW+ozsfdNAIr70e6+sc1AupYQFBGCiTqI+FSLJgBB+0CtSmF0IcKi W+oys1NJAIr70e4+gM9AupYQFBmCiTqI+HzaJwBB stops here ... I saw a few txt/html mails been stored in simscan processing dir having the same issue /head body table width=3D966 border=3D0 cellpadding=3D0 cellspacing=3D0 bgcol= or=3Dff class=3Dhg_ecken_rechts tr td rowspan=3D2 align=3Dcenter valign= stops here --- I am not sure if the problem happends in the Server DATA or when it is passed through simscan but it is getting annoying I cant tell exactly when this started but I d guess in the last 2 weeks I am having complaints for a few days ... Any1 beside Janno noticed that ? Janno on a side note you didnt change anything when rebuilding simscan package? (I changed it to drop message --enable-dropmsg) Would be interested to know if we are just the only ones who noticed that :) Cheers -P Philip Nix Guru wrote: Hi The mails stay there till they got fully processed by simscan then after 20minutes knocked out Janno Sannik wrote: right now the folder is empty. will the mails be there for few seconds only (in my case 21:15:17-21:15:54)? Janno Philip Nix Guru wrote: Hello Janno Could you please check if the mail is held into /var/qmail/simscan/ That's what I start noticing ... the DATA transaction is not ended so simscan wont report anything mail is never delivered ... just check the simscan folder . I am really interested to know if the mails are held there ... Thx -P Janno Sannik wrote: nope. still same problem: 2007-03-18 21:15:17.246220500 tcpserver: pid 27759 from 195.222.29.83 2007-03-18 21:15:17.246223500 tcpserver: ok 27759 sun.xservu.com:192.168.10.6:25 :195.222.29.83::37968 2007-03-18 21:15:19.938561500 CHKUSER accepted sender: from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:: remote mx1.zone.ee:unknown:195.222.29.83 rcpt : sender accepted 2007-03-18 21:15:54.952408500 tcpserver: end 27759 status 0 I have mail from same user which gets through and also show simscan clean or something. In this case I don't see any confirmation nor error message from simscan. Janno Janno Sannik wrote: qmail was installed 30 days ago. running qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.10 so i will update to .14 and see what happens. If you are not running the latest release of qmail-toaster (qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.14), then these messages are possibly being rejected for SPF or DomainKeys violations. You will only see those entries logged in the latest release. This is something that has had me stumped more than once in the past. Adam - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] restrict long subjects
Howdy chaps, I got to much time on my hands right now, so I decided to google a bit, could this be something that would work? http://www.davelozinski.com/scripts/email/index.php?1174387828128 Regards Per Qvindesland On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 06:43 -0400, Jake Vickers wrote: ashok wrote: Hi All,, Can we restrict the number of characters in Subject Field ?? How do we do this in QT? There is not currently a way to do this in Qmail, AFAIK. I have never seen a patch to allow this functionality. Kind regards Define success the way customers do Resellers of all Nomachine terminal server solutions Nomachine Resellers of Vizual HR Management solutions Vizual Resellers of Graphon Go-Global Graphon Certified reseller of all HP client and server products HP Resellers of all IBM Solutions IBM Founders of Migrating to linux Migrating to Linux Registered Premium partner of Cisco Members of the Hibiscus Chamber of Commerce attachment: per.jpg
Re: [qmailtoaster] restrict long subjects
Nah sorry way off, it's a web interface script and not to bright also. Again sorry about that. On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 06:43 -0400, Jake Vickers wrote: ashok wrote: Hi All,, Can we restrict the number of characters in Subject Field ?? How do we do this in QT? There is not currently a way to do this in Qmail, AFAIK. I have never seen a patch to allow this functionality. Kind regards Define success the way customers do Resellers of all Nomachine terminal server solutions Nomachine Resellers of Vizual HR Management solutions Vizual Resellers of Graphon Go-Global Graphon Certified reseller of all HP client and server products HP Resellers of all IBM Solutions IBM Founders of Migrating to linux Migrating to Linux Registered Premium partner of Cisco Members of the Hibiscus Chamber of Commerce attachment: per.jpg
Re: [qmailtoaster] restrict long subjects
Per Qvindesland wrote: Nah sorry way off, it's a web interface script and not to bright also. Again sorry about that. Nothing to be sorry for. I can see where a patch to integrate this could be of use, but honestly this is the first time I've ever seen anyone to ask to limit the subject I've never even seen spammers use this method (yet). Is this in response to one particular user or in general? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[qmailtoaster] Spam Question...
Hey all, Not sure that this is where I need to ask this but here goes. I have been noticing that when someone sends an email to a forwarder address like [EMAIL PROTECTED] it seems as though the forwarder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) does not get checked or run through spamassassin. Since the email then is forwarded onto a local email address the server does not scan it either. Is this the correct behavior of the way it should scan? I would assume you would not want a forwarder being scanned that way you know that there is no chance of emails being blocked or rejected. Just a small observation that I wanted to try to get clarified. Thanks, Kyle Quillen Lightspeed Wireless Office/Tech Support 330.473.1231ext. 1002 Cell/Emergency Only 330.231.6269
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spam Question...
Kyle Quillen wrote: Hey all, Not sure that this is where I need to ask this but here goes. I have been noticing that when someone sends an email to a forwarder address like [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] it seems as though the forwarder ([EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) does not get checked or run through spamassassin. Since the email then is forwarded onto a local email address the server does not scan it either. Is this the correct behavior of the way it should scan? I would assume you would not want a forwarder being scanned that way you know that there is no chance of emails being blocked or rejected. We had a thread running on this a month or so ago, and I believe we found that because of the way forwards/aliases work they are not scanned. I can dig through my emails later today and see what exactly transpired (sorry, forgot already) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spam Question...
Jake Vickers wrote: Kyle Quillen wrote: Hey all, Not sure that this is where I need to ask this but here goes. I have been noticing that when someone sends an email to a forwarder address like [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] it seems as though the forwarder ([EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) does not get checked or run through spamassassin. Since the email then is forwarded onto a local email address the server does not scan it either. Is this the correct behavior of the way it should scan? I would assume you would not want a forwarder being scanned that way you know that there is no chance of emails being blocked or rejected. We had a thread running on this a month or so ago, and I believe we found that because of the way forwards/aliases work they are not scanned. I can dig through my emails later today and see what exactly transpired (sorry, forgot already) IIRC that had to do with the spambox filter not kicking in. It appears to me that the toaster is scanning forwarded messages though. There are X-Spam-* headers from my toaster in mail that that was received and forwarded locally intra-domain. They appear to be scanned when coming into the forwarded account, but I'm not certain: Delivered-To: fwd_to@shubes.net Received: (qmail 11559 invoked by uid 89); 20 Mar 2007 11:57:04 - Delivered-To: fwd_from@shubes.net Received: (qmail 11553 invoked by uid 89); 20 Mar 2007 11:57:04 - DomainKey-Status: no signature Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 11538, pid: 11540, t: 14.2558s scanners: clamav: 0.88.7/m:42/d:2679 spam: 3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on doris.shubes.net X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.4 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,ADVANCE_FEE_2, ADVANCE_FEE_3,AWL,FIN_FREE,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=3.1.7 Received: from unknown (HELO deluxe-smtp.infusionsoft.com) (67.131.25.40) by doris with SMTP; 20 Mar 2007 11:56:50 - # rpm -qa | grep toaster ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2 courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4 autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.2 isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.2 qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.2 spamassassin-toaster-3.1.7-1.3.6 vpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.3 daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.2 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.10 clamav-toaster-0.88.7-1.3.7 ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.2 courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6 ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2 libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.2 qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.3 qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.3.10 simscan-toaster-1.3.1-1.3.3 squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.9a-1.3.5 qmailtoaster-plus-0.2.10-1.3.12 ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.2 maildrop-toaster-2.0.3-1.3.4 control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.2 maildrop-toaster-devel-2.0.3-1.3.4 send-emails-toaster-0.5-1.3.2 -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] spam quarantine
Hi all, can you tell me wich is the best way of automatically moving spam emails (marked as ***SPAM*** by spam assassin) to a SPAM mailbox, and deletting them after x days ? thanks Gabriel - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] spam quarantine
Gaby Kule wrote: Hi all, can you tell me wich is the best way of automatically moving spam emails (marked as ***SPAM*** by spam assassin) to a SPAM mailbox, and deletting them after x days ? Enable the spambox function (http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/FAQs#I_upgraded_my_QmailToaster_to_the_latest_and_I_no_longer_have_the_.22Spam_Detection.22_box_in_Qmailadmin.) and then run a script like Erik's prune script (http://devel.qmailtoaster.com/info/qtprune.sh). You'll of course want to edit it - his deletes mails after 28 or 30 days (don't remember which). smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!!
Did you check www.messagelabs.com/support and look for information? There it says: 450 Requested action aborted [7] The error message indicates a temporary error. Please try resending your message. If the problem persists, please contact your IT administrator or ISP provider. On 3/20/07, Gabriel Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've the below error message when send an email to my customer. Please help! *05:44:13* connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147]: Connection refused (port 25) *05:44:13* connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[ 193.109.254.147]: Connection refused (port 25) *05:44:15* connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[212.125.75.4]: server refused to talk to me: 450 Requested action aborted [7.2] 102, please visit www.messagelabs.com/support for more details about this error message. (port 25) *05:44:15* connect to mail27.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147]: Connection refused (port 25) -- Bored stiff? http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49935/*http://games.yahoo.comLoosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for freehttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49935/*http://games.yahoo.comon Yahoo! Games.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!!
I've checked it, but I still don understand why only this domain name cannot received our email... any ideas? - Original Message From: Natalio Gatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:34:57 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!! Did you check www.messagelabs.com/support and look for information? There it says: 450 Requested action aborted [7] The error message indicates a temporary error. Please try resending your message. If the problem persists, please contact your IT administrator or ISP provider. On 3/20/07, Gabriel Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've the below error message when send an email to my customer. Please help! 05:44:13connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147]: Connection refused (port 25) 05:44:13connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147]: Connection refused (port 25) 05:44:15connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[212.125.75.4]: server refused to talk to me: 450 Requested action aborted [ 7.2] 102, please visit www.messagelabs.com/support for more details about this error message. (port 25) 05:44:15connect to mail27.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147]: Connection refused (port 25) Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091
Re: [qmailtoaster] Localization error messages
How to localize error messages ? - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!!
Perhaps they're using a blocklist that has you listed? Gabriel Lai wrote: I've checked it, but I still don understand why only this domain name cannot received our email... any ideas? - Original Message From: Natalio Gatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:34:57 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!! Did you check www.messagelabs.com/support http://www.messagelabs.com/support and look for information? There it says: 450 Requested action aborted [7] The error message indicates a temporary error. Please try resending your message. If the problem persists, please contact your IT administrator or ISP provider. On 3/20/07, *Gabriel Lai* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've the below error message when send an email to my customer. Please help! *05:44:13*connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147 http://193.109.254.147/]: Connection refused (port 25) *05:44:13*connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147 http://193.109.254.147/]: Connection refused (port 25) *05:44:15*connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[212.125.75.4 http://212.125.75.4/]: server refused to talk to me: 450 Requested action aborted [ 7.2] 102, please visit www.messagelabs.com/support http://www.messagelabs.com/support for more details about this error message. (port 25) *05:44:15*connect to mail27.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147 http://193.109.254.147/]: Connection refused (port 25) -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Localization error messages
Igor Vukotic' wrote: How to localize error messages ? TTBOMK, you need to change the source code. -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Localization error messages
Uhh... That would be nice feature so admins can localize error message (for example read from some txt file) On 2007.03.20, at 15:07, Eric Shubes wrote: Igor Vukotic' wrote: How to localize error messages ? TTBOMK, you need to change the source code. -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] simscan and lost emails
I ve been checking with the simscan mailing list and debugging a few things simscan is definatly the problem I did a few tests : simscan 1.3.1 latest toatse version export QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/simscan; export SIMSCAN_DEBUG=2; export NOPOFCHECK=1; /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject [EMAIL PROTECTED] test2.txt qmail-inject: fatal: qq crashed (#4.3.0) Nice? :) ... could any1 confirm he has the same problem ? test2.txt is just a stupid text file simscan 1.2 compiled with same options as qt (+ patch for clamav db path) export QMAILQUEUE=/home/rainbow/simscan-1.2/simscan; export SIMSCAN_DEBUG=2; export NOPOFCHECK=1; /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject [EMAIL PROTECTED] test2.txt pasting what is important .. simscan: cdb looking up simscan: cdb for found clam=yes,spam=yes,spam_hits=6.5,attach=.mp3:.src:.bat:.pif simscan: pelookup clam = yes simscan: pelookup spam = yes simscan: pelookup spam_hits = 6.5 simscan: Per Domain Hits set to : 6.50 simscan: pelookup attach = .mp3:.src:.bat:.pif simscan: attachment flag attach = .mp3:.src:.bat:.pif simscan: .mp3 is attachment number 0 simscan: .src is attachment number 1 simscan: .bat is attachment number 2 simscan: .pif is attachment number 3 simscan: starting: work dir: /var/qmail/simscan/1174399705.933190.21786 ... simscan: cdb looking up version attach simscan: calling clamdscan simscan: cdb looking up version clamav simscan: fatal error executing clamdscan simscan: exit error code: 71 qmail-inject: fatal: mail server temporarily rejected message (#4.3.0) That doenst make much sense *71*: Can't allocate memory (malloc) the softlimit -m 1200 is enough Any clues? :) - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!!
messagelabs.com seems require sender's domain with reverse dns. Does your domain has one? On 3/20/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps they're using a blocklist that has you listed? Gabriel Lai wrote: I've checked it, but I still don understand why only this domain name cannot received our email... any ideas? - Original Message From: Natalio Gatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:34:57 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!! Did you check www.messagelabs.com/support http://www.messagelabs.com/support and look for information? There it says: 450 Requested action aborted [7] The error message indicates a temporary error. Please try resending your message. If the problem persists, please contact your IT administrator or ISP provider. On 3/20/07, *Gabriel Lai* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've the below error message when send an email to my customer. Please help! *05:44:13*connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147 http://193.109.254.147/]: Connection refused (port 25) *05:44:13*connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147 http://193.109.254.147/]: Connection refused (port 25) *05:44:15*connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[212.125.75.4 http://212.125.75.4/]: server refused to talk to me: 450 Requested action aborted [ 7.2] 102, please visit www.messagelabs.com/support http://www.messagelabs.com/support for more details about this error message. (port 25) *05:44:15*connect to mail27.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147 http://193.109.254.147/]: Connection refused (port 25) -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!!
Just wondering.. Wasn't there a temporary error/problem at their side? Seems one of their servers was refusing connections and the other one maybe had problems also.. If you still can not mail to the customer I would try a telnet smtp session to see what errors you are getting exactly.. Or use recordio and send a message again. JP - Original Message - From: Bill Kwok To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!! messagelabs.com seems require sender's domain with reverse dns. Does your domain has one? On 3/20/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps they're using a blocklist that has you listed? Gabriel Lai wrote: I've checked it, but I still don understand why only this domain name cannot received our email... any ideas? - Original Message From: Natalio Gatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:34:57 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!! Did you check www.messagelabs.com/support http://www.messagelabs.com/support and look for information? There it says: 450 Requested action aborted [7] The error message indicates a temporary error. Please try resending your message. If the problem persists, please contact your IT administrator or ISP provider. On 3/20/07, *Gabriel Lai* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've the below error message when send an email to my customer. Please help! *05:44:13*connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147 http://193.109.254.147/ ]: Connection refused (port 25) *05:44:13*connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147 http://193.109.254.147/ ]: Connection refused (port 25) *05:44:15*connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[212.125.75.4 http://212.125.75.4/ ]: server refused to talk to me: 450 Requested action aborted [ 7.2] 102, please visit www.messagelabs.com/support http://www.messagelabs.com/support for more details about this error message. (port 25) *05:44:15*connect to mail27.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147 http://193.109.254.147/]: Connection refused (port 25) -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Q about updating
Friends, I would like to thank all who have offered advice as I have set up my 1st qmail-toaster. I would enjoy some wisdom on best practices on keeping my qmailToaster healthy and happy. I have read the document ' Life with qmail' I have installed qmail-plus , qmailtoaster-plus-0.2.10-1.3.12 ( as described http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/wiki ) specifically : I am wondering how often I should update it? what might be the top few things to look at after an update to make sure that all went well. Of course, i wish to have good antivirus and AntiSpam. I intend to update via qmail-plus. -( here is my current state I have qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.13 and my packages are ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.4 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.13 autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.2 qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.3 isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.2 clamav-toaster-0.90-1.3.10 daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.2 vpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.3 libsrs2-toaster-1.0.18-1.3.2 qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.3.13 courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6 qmailtoaster-plus-0.2.10-1.3.12 control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.3 ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2 qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.2 maildrop-toaster-devel-2.0.3-1.3.4 vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.2 spamassassin-toaster-3.1.7-1.3.6 ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.2 libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.2 courier-authlib-toaster-0.59.1-1.3.5 ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2 maildrop-toaster-2.0.3-1.3.4 squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.9a-1.3.5 simscan-toaster-1.3.1-1.3.4 Thnaks again! j
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spam Question...
On 3/20/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC that had to do with the spambox filter not kicking in. Yes, that was my case and it was due to the old format of forwarding rules in the db. After fixing that everrything has been working fine. It appears to me that the toaster is scanning forwarded messages though. There are X-Spam-* headers from my toaster in mail that that was received and forwarded locally intra-domain. They appear to be scanned when coming into the forwarded account, but I'm not certain: I have lots of forwards in use and I have not seen any issues about those being not scanned by spamassassin either. Regards, Peter - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Q about updating
Jim Shupert, Jr. wrote: Friends, I would like to thank all who have offered advice as I have set up my 1st qmail-toaster. I would enjoy some wisdom on best practices on keeping my qmailToaster healthy and happy. I have read the document ' Life with qmail' I have installed qmail-plus , qmailtoaster-plus-0.2.10-1.3.12 ( as described http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/wiki ) specifically : I am wondering how often I should update it? what might be the top few things to look at after an update to make sure that all went well. Of course, i wish to have good antivirus and AntiSpam. I intend to update via qmail-plus. I have not updated most of my machines since July of 2006. I have not needed any of the new features with the updates, so I'm not going to fix something that isn't broken and run the risk of actually breaking it. I do run a nightly backup, which gets rsync'ed to an offsite machine. Just to be safe. My clients would be very unhappy if the server crashed and I lost everything. As for spam Welcome to the never-ending battle. Enable URIDNSBL (how-to on the wiki) and use a decent blacklist. And if possible, train your SA. Other than that, check the drive space every once in a while. While maybe not the best advice, it's what I'm offering. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [qmailtoaster] some mails get lost between qmail-smtp and qmail-send
Hello Phil, Make sure you are using the latest clamav. Perhaps you are using clamav 0.90 which contained some issues that caused mail to be lost. Erik On 3/20/07, Philip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey getting worse and worse .. On the 3 toatsers I got here 2 fc5 1 centos 4.4 All three have the same issues, simscan never finsihes the scanning either coz the mail is cut or it gets cut in the process I think it is a pretty serious issue considering the same mail bcc cc reached the other smtp servers Philip wrote: Hello every1 Sorry to bring back this subject but I have been monitoring 3 diff QT and a few messages get lost for no reason I sent a mail with some cad dwg plan attached to 1 qt, 1 yahoo,1gmail,1hotmail and a few of my other servers all arrived but for the QT server .. I see the mail in /var/qmail/simscan/somedir/some_msg it is as I reported not ended the mail is just somehow cut ... CJf9lAiZdIsBQ/zEDAADAADAACAOECwgKAMFEsUQ9ZWAPgBAawBAAACt SeF0Id/TjZz0L7a9hAPLLE3Gury0DAADAADLkCwgKBMFEpUQ9cLb JgBB+0CtSiF0IcKiW+ozsfdNAIr70e6+sc1AupYQFBGCiTqI+FSLJgBB+0CtSmF0IcKi W+oys1NJAIr70e4+gM9AupYQFBmCiTqI+HzaJwBB stops here ... I saw a few txt/html mails been stored in simscan processing dir having the same issue /head body table width=3D966 border=3D0 cellpadding=3D0 cellspacing=3D0 bgcol= or=3Dff class=3Dhg_ecken_rechts tr td rowspan=3D2 align=3Dcenter valign= stops here --- I am not sure if the problem happends in the Server DATA or when it is passed through simscan but it is getting annoying I cant tell exactly when this started but I d guess in the last 2 weeks I am having complaints for a few days ... Any1 beside Janno noticed that ? Janno on a side note you didnt change anything when rebuilding simscan package? (I changed it to drop message --enable-dropmsg) Would be interested to know if we are just the only ones who noticed that :) Cheers -P Philip Nix Guru wrote: Hi The mails stay there till they got fully processed by simscan then after 20minutes knocked out Janno Sannik wrote: right now the folder is empty. will the mails be there for few seconds only (in my case 21:15:17-21:15:54)? Janno Philip Nix Guru wrote: Hello Janno Could you please check if the mail is held into /var/qmail/simscan/ That's what I start noticing ... the DATA transaction is not ended so simscan wont report anything mail is never delivered ... just check the simscan folder . I am really interested to know if the mails are held there ... Thx -P Janno Sannik wrote: nope. still same problem: 2007-03-18 21:15:17.246220500 tcpserver: pid 27759 from 195.222.29.83 2007-03-18 21:15:17.246223500 tcpserver: ok 27759 sun.xservu.com:192.168.10.6:25 :195.222.29.83::37968 2007-03-18 21:15:19.938561500 CHKUSER accepted sender: from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:: remote mx1.zone.ee:unknown:195.222.29.83 rcpt : sender accepted 2007-03-18 21:15:54.952408500 tcpserver: end 27759 status 0 I have mail from same user which gets through and also show simscan clean or something. In this case I don't see any confirmation nor error message from simscan. Janno Janno Sannik wrote: qmail was installed 30 days ago. running qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.10 so i will update to .14 and see what happens. If you are not running the latest release of qmail-toaster (qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.14), then these messages are possibly being rejected for SPF or DomainKeys violations. You will only see those entries logged in the latest release. This is something that has had me stumped more than once in the past. Adam - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted
[qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
The error 451 is a soft reject. There are two types of rejects in smtp, 4xx are temporary rejections and should be retried and 5xx are permanent rejections. Not sure what else you are looking for. Erik On 3/20/07, Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
seems dangerous since this could be exploited by hitting mailserver with lot's of spam and getting it to go through that way Justice London wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
Yeah, but it's better than just getting the message rejected, which seems to be happening right now if something happens to spamassassin. This is bad since our clients then call and complain to no end. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 21:31 +0200, Janno Sannik wrote: seems dangerous since this could be exploited by hitting mailserver with lot's of spam and getting it to go through that way Justice London wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
Are you using something more than the stock blocklist? That can reduce your scanning load substantially. Justice London wrote: Yeah, but it's better than just getting the message rejected, which seems to be happening right now if something happens to spamassassin. This is bad since our clients then call and complain to no end. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 21:31 +0200, Janno Sannik wrote: seems dangerous since this could be exploited by hitting mailserver with lot's of spam and getting it to go through that way Justice London wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
ping! On 3/20/07, Erik A. Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error 451 is a soft reject. There are two types of rejects in smtp, 4xx are temporary rejections and should be retried and 5xx are permanent rejections. Not sure what else you are looking for. Erik On 3/20/07, Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
Reply from xx.xx.xx.xx in 28ms Sent 4 received 4 total 100% -Original Message- From: Erik A. Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:59 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject ping! On 3/20/07, Erik A. Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error 451 is a soft reject. There are two types of rejects in smtp, 4xx are temporary rejections and should be retried and 5xx are permanent rejections. Not sure what else you are looking for. Erik On 3/20/07, Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
If I may jump in here with just a quick Q... what is ment by the stock blocklist? thnaks Are you using something more than the stock blocklist? That can reduce your scanning load substantially. Justice London wrote: Yeah, but it's better than just getting the message rejected, which seems to be happening right now if something happens to spamassassin. This is bad since our clients then call and complain to no end. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 21:31 +0200, Janno Sannik wrote: seems dangerous since this could be exploited by hitting mailserver with lot's of spam and getting it to go through that way Justice London wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
I understand that it's a soft reject insofar as that is concerned. The issue seems to come in when something has happened to spamassassin, be it that it crashed, doesn't have room for connections at the time, etc. At that point the 451 error basically becomes a show-stopper. The clients could care less what is happening on the server level, all they care is that they see an error-message. While I would guess it might be possible to setup a rule so that SMTP authenticated clients will not be processed by simscan, that still wouldn't change the fact that behind the scenes spamassassin has broken in such a way that it seems things can't be worked around. Maybe I'm incorrect in my diagnosis, etc. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 14:59 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote: ping! On 3/20/07, Erik A. Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error 451 is a soft reject. There are two types of rejects in smtp, 4xx are temporary rejections and should be retried and 5xx are permanent rejections. Not sure what else you are looking for. Erik On 3/20/07, Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
So what are you proposing Justice? Please help me understand. You wanted a soft rejection when spamassassin is down. I am telling you that a 451 error is a soft error. I am trying to understand what you believe the correct behavior should be? If we reject with error 451, the sending smtp server should retry later. If the sending smtp server generates a bounce, there is nothing we can do about it. Erik On 3/20/07, Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that it's a soft reject insofar as that is concerned. The issue seems to come in when something has happened to spamassassin, be it that it crashed, doesn't have room for connections at the time, etc. At that point the 451 error basically becomes a show-stopper. The clients could care less what is happening on the server level, all they care is that they see an error-message. While I would guess it might be possible to setup a rule so that SMTP authenticated clients will not be processed by simscan, that still wouldn't change the fact that behind the scenes spamassassin has broken in such a way that it seems things can't be worked around. Maybe I'm incorrect in my diagnosis, etc. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 14:59 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote: ping! On 3/20/07, Erik A. Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error 451 is a soft reject. There are two types of rejects in smtp, 4xx are temporary rejections and should be retried and 5xx are permanent rejections. Not sure what else you are looking for. Erik On 3/20/07, Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
Yo ES, I'd take sorbs out of the blacklist. It routinely blocks Gmail, hotmail and various others big sites. On the site they recommend that sorbs be used in scoring via spamassassin and not outright rejection. Just a thought. Erik On 3/20/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to change sbl-xbl to zen. sbl-xbl will be going away at some point. Be aware though, that zen additionally includes dynamic addresses. I'm running with the qtp moderate blacklists: http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/trac/browser/trunk/etc/blacklists-moderate You might want to try adding one or two of these and see if it helps at all. I doubt that it will make a big impact though, as you're already catching a large number. Every little bit helps though. Justice London wrote: Yes, probably 80-90% of the mails are rejected outright, but that still leaves about 30-40cps (on average) that get through. The majority seem to be various spambot addresses that haven't made it to blacklist territory yet. Don't have a tremendous number of blacklists in place, though: -r sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org -r bl.spamcop.net -r list.dsbl.org Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 13:03 -0700, Eric Shubes wrote: Are you using something more than the stock blocklist? That can reduce your scanning load substantially. Justice London wrote: Yeah, but it's better than just getting the message rejected, which seems to be happening right now if something happens to spamassassin. This is bad since our clients then call and complain to no end. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 21:31 +0200, Janno Sannik wrote: seems dangerous since this could be exploited by hitting mailserver with lot's of spam and getting it to go through that way Justice London wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
Stock today is zen.spamhaus.org. Erik On 3/20/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stock as in default 'factory' settings, which is sbl.spamhause.org. You'll probably get much better rejection with the loose or moderate qtp blacklists. See http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/trac/#qtp-set-rbls Jim Shupert, Jr. wrote: If I may jump in here with just a quick Q... what is ment by the stock blocklist? thnaks Are you using something more than the stock blocklist? That can reduce your scanning load substantially. Justice London wrote: Yeah, but it's better than just getting the message rejected, which seems to be happening right now if something happens to spamassassin. This is bad since our clients then call and complain to no end. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 21:31 +0200, Janno Sannik wrote: seems dangerous since this could be exploited by hitting mailserver with lot's of spam and getting it to go through that way Justice London wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Eric 'shubes' -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
It's actually clients connecting that care about the issue. Any reasonable SMTP server should try again for at least a day or three and as long as the server didn't disappear from the internet, will eventually get the mail through. This is why I brought up the suggestion, partially to myself, that clients be exempted from simscan checks. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:26 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote: So what are you proposing Justice? Please help me understand. You wanted a soft rejection when spamassassin is down. I am telling you that a 451 error is a soft error. I am trying to understand what you believe the correct behavior should be? If we reject with error 451, the sending smtp server should retry later. If the sending smtp server generates a bounce, there is nothing we can do about it. Erik On 3/20/07, Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that it's a soft reject insofar as that is concerned. The issue seems to come in when something has happened to spamassassin, be it that it crashed, doesn't have room for connections at the time, etc. At that point the 451 error basically becomes a show-stopper. The clients could care less what is happening on the server level, all they care is that they see an error-message. While I would guess it might be possible to setup a rule so that SMTP authenticated clients will not be processed by simscan, that still wouldn't change the fact that behind the scenes spamassassin has broken in such a way that it seems things can't be worked around. Maybe I'm incorrect in my diagnosis, etc. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 14:59 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote: ping! On 3/20/07, Erik A. Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error 451 is a soft reject. There are two types of rejects in smtp, 4xx are temporary rejections and should be retried and 5xx are permanent rejections. Not sure what else you are looking for. Erik On 3/20/07, Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
I'll play around with adding a couple more blacklists. I was having issues with a few specific clients using zen, so that's why I wasn't using it for the time being (as you mention it has dynamic addresses). Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:21 -0700, Eric Shubes wrote: You might want to change sbl-xbl to zen. sbl-xbl will be going away at some point. Be aware though, that zen additionally includes dynamic addresses. I'm running with the qtp moderate blacklists: http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/trac/browser/trunk/etc/blacklists-moderate You might want to try adding one or two of these and see if it helps at all. I doubt that it will make a big impact though, as you're already catching a large number. Every little bit helps though. Justice London wrote: Yes, probably 80-90% of the mails are rejected outright, but that still leaves about 30-40cps (on average) that get through. The majority seem to be various spambot addresses that haven't made it to blacklist territory yet. Don't have a tremendous number of blacklists in place, though: -r sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org -r bl.spamcop.net -r list.dsbl.org Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 13:03 -0700, Eric Shubes wrote: Are you using something more than the stock blocklist? That can reduce your scanning load substantially. Justice London wrote: Yeah, but it's better than just getting the message rejected, which seems to be happening right now if something happens to spamassassin. This is bad since our clients then call and complain to no end. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 21:31 +0200, Janno Sannik wrote: seems dangerous since this could be exploited by hitting mailserver with lot's of spam and getting it to go through that way Justice London wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
Okay, I don't think I understand where the problem lies and what you propose as the correct behavior. Please clarify. On a side note, have you switched your users to authenticated smtp? This should skip all but clamav/attach checks. When I send an e-mail from my client on port 587 using smtp-auth all I see is this: Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 32696, pid: 32701, t: 0.3443s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.90.1-exp/m:42/d:2691 Thanks, Erik On 3/20/07, Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's actually clients connecting that care about the issue. Any reasonable SMTP server should try again for at least a day or three and as long as the server didn't disappear from the internet, will eventually get the mail through. This is why I brought up the suggestion, partially to myself, that clients be exempted from simscan checks. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:26 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote: So what are you proposing Justice? Please help me understand. You wanted a soft rejection when spamassassin is down. I am telling you that a 451 error is a soft error. I am trying to understand what you believe the correct behavior should be? If we reject with error 451, the sending smtp server should retry later. If the sending smtp server generates a bounce, there is nothing we can do about it. Erik On 3/20/07, Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that it's a soft reject insofar as that is concerned. The issue seems to come in when something has happened to spamassassin, be it that it crashed, doesn't have room for connections at the time, etc. At that point the 451 error basically becomes a show-stopper. The clients could care less what is happening on the server level, all they care is that they see an error-message. While I would guess it might be possible to setup a rule so that SMTP authenticated clients will not be processed by simscan, that still wouldn't change the fact that behind the scenes spamassassin has broken in such a way that it seems things can't be worked around. Maybe I'm incorrect in my diagnosis, etc. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 14:59 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote: ping! On 3/20/07, Erik A. Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error 451 is a soft reject. There are two types of rejects in smtp, 4xx are temporary rejections and should be retried and 5xx are permanent rejections. Not sure what else you are looking for. Erik On 3/20/07, Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin/simscan 'soft' reject
Oops! I'll get those changed for the next qtp release. Erik A. Espinoza wrote: Stock today is zen.spamhaus.org. Erik On 3/20/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stock as in default 'factory' settings, which is sbl.spamhause.org. You'll probably get much better rejection with the loose or moderate qtp blacklists. See http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/trac/#qtp-set-rbls Jim Shupert, Jr. wrote: If I may jump in here with just a quick Q... what is ment by the stock blocklist? thnaks Are you using something more than the stock blocklist? That can reduce your scanning load substantially. Justice London wrote: Yeah, but it's better than just getting the message rejected, which seems to be happening right now if something happens to spamassassin. This is bad since our clients then call and complain to no end. Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 21:31 +0200, Janno Sannik wrote: seems dangerous since this could be exploited by hitting mailserver with lot's of spam and getting it to go through that way Justice London wrote: Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is passed a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked? Justice London [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -Eric 'shubes' -- -Eric 'shubes' -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!!
nop, i don't have a reverse dns, what should I do? I host my dns under Dyndns.org due to my internet ISP is giving me Dynamic IP. So I've to host under Dyndns.org Help!! - Original Message From: Bill Kwok [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:30:25 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!! messagelabs.com seems require sender's domain with reverse dns. Does your domain has one? On 3/20/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps they're using a blocklist that has you listed? Gabriel Lai wrote: I've checked it, but I still don understand why only this domain name cannot received our email... any ideas? - Original Message From: Natalio Gatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:34:57 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!! Did you check www.messagelabs.com/support http://www.messagelabs.com/support and look for information? There it says: 450 Requested action aborted [7] The error message indicates a temporary error. Please try resending your message. If the problem persists, please contact your IT administrator or ISP provider. On 3/20/07, *Gabriel Lai* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've the below error message when send an email to my customer. Please help! *05:44:13*connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147 http://193.109.254.147/ ]: Connection refused (port 25) *05:44:13*connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147 http://193.109.254.147/ ]: Connection refused (port 25) *05:44:15*connect to mail1.messagelabs.com[212.125.75.4 http://212.125.75.4/ ]: server refused to talk to me: 450 Requested action aborted [ 7.2] 102, please visit www.messagelabs.com/support http://www.messagelabs.com/support for more details about this error message. (port 25) *05:44:15*connect to mail27.messagelabs.com[193.109.254.147 http://193.109.254.147/]: Connection refused (port 25) -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121
Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!!
Eric, I used Outbound too ;) that's why I'm wondering why it doesn't allow me to enter into their mail server. Moreover, I've check outbound is not in the spam database... :( - Original Message From: Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:31:36 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Email Sending Failed... HELP!! P.V.Anthony wrote: On this day, 21-March-2007 11:19 AM, Gabriel Lai wrote: nop, i don't have a reverse dns, what should I do? I host my dns under Dyndns.org due to my internet ISP is giving me Dynamic IP. So I've to host under Dyndns.org From what I understand, only the ISP that you got the Dynamic IP can give the reverse dns. Plus this is a dynamic IP so it may be difficult to get the reverse dns. I do not think you will get it. Now for the solution. If you are in the office where the dynamic IP is used, use the smtp server of your ISP. The simple way is just to configure your Thunderbird or any other email client to the smtp server of your ISP. The other way is to configure Qmail to send all outgoing emails to the ISP's smtp server. I know it can be done but I do not know how. If you are in Singapore, call me. P.V.Anthony I'm on a dynamic (pseudo-static) IP address too. You'll need to have an outgoing relay service to reach many servers, more and more due to blocklisting of dynamic addresses (thanks in part to zen.spamhaus). I use dyndns.org's mailhop service. It's quite affordable, and works really well. You configure your toaster to send outgoing mail via dyndns.org's mailhop relay using the /var/qmail/control/smtproutes file. You can do this selectively by destination domain (what I still do), or just let mailhop handle everything. Alternatively, your ISP's smtp server might be used (some ISPs allow this, some restrict use to their domain name). You can see if this works also by adding an entry to /var/qmail/control/smtproutes to route outgoing email via your ISP's smtp server. See http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Smtproutes for details on setting up smtproutes. HTH -- -Eric 'shubes' - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
[qmailtoaster] imap giving error
Hi Group, I am using qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.6 and courier-imap-toaster-4.1.1-1.3.2. Suddenly server giving error to my webmail users. After restart qmailctl that solved but steel imap log showing following error. @40004600cf642facdb5c ERR: Failed to create cache file: maildirwatch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) @40004600cf642face714 ERR: Error: Input/output error @40004600cf642faceee4 ERR: Check for proper operation and configuration @40004600cf642facfa9c ERR: of the File Access Monitor daemon (famd). What may be the problem. Please help. Regard's Mahesh - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] imap giving error
Hard Disk? On 3/20/07, mahesh wadekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Group, I am using qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.6 and courier-imap-toaster-4.1.1-1.3.2. Suddenly server giving error to my webmail users. After restart qmailctl that solved but steel imap log showing following error. @40004600cf642facdb5c ERR: Failed to create cache file: maildirwatch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) @40004600cf642face714 ERR: Error: Input/output error @40004600cf642faceee4 ERR: Check for proper operation and configuration @40004600cf642facfa9c ERR: of the File Access Monitor daemon (famd). What may be the problem. Please help. Regard's Mahesh - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] imap giving error
Thanks Regard's Mahesh --- Erik A. Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hard Disk? On 3/20/07, mahesh wadekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Group, I am using qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.6 and courier-imap-toaster-4.1.1-1.3.2. Suddenly server giving error to my webmail users. After restart qmailctl that solved but steel imap log showing following error. @40004600cf642facdb5c ERR: Failed to create cache file: maildirwatch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) @40004600cf642face714 ERR: Error: Input/output error @40004600cf642faceee4 ERR: Check for proper operation and configuration @40004600cf642facfa9c ERR: of the File Access Monitor daemon (famd). What may be the problem. Please help. Regard's Mahesh - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
