Re: [qmailtoaster] email address formats... including /

2007-02-09 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hello Jared


Thanks for the quick reply Erik. Can I ask what the security precautions
are? We're trying to see if it's going to be workable to allow it so one of
our clients can email.


Like I stated before, you can follow the chkuser stuff from the wiki
to accomplish this.

As far as the security implications, I'd look at this:
http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#dots-in-extensions
G.4. qmail replaces dots (.) in extension addresses with colons (:).

Another security feature. The purpose is prevent extension addresses
from backing up the file tree using ... By replacing them with
colons, qmail ensures that all .qmail files for a user are under their
home directory. Documented in the dot-qmail man page.

A / is just as interesting as a . as far as file system tree goes.


Just to reiterate, we're trying to allow our customers to email outgoing to
others with a / in their address, not necessarily allow incoming /
addresses, nor create an email account with the / in it on our server. Hope
that helps too..


Not sure that'd make a difference. As far as I know, the / in e-mail
addresses are for internal only addressses in Domino. Usually there is
a different internet address, as that is not an rfc allowed character
for smtp..

I work in .gov and I've never had an issue sending or receiving from
other agencies. We use the QmailToaster at work, they even paid me to
work on it part time for a while last year.

Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] GREYLISTING

2007-02-09 Thread Erik Espinoza

I will put it there tonight.

Erik

On 2/9/07, Jean-Paul van de Plasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Btw,
would be nice if this rpm can go to the devel site..

JP
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 Hello
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/TCP_Server_limits_configuration
 You ll find the ucspi with the limit_patch link
 and the infos on how to setup the variables in your cdb file

 Cheers
 -Philip


 Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Hello Rajesh,

 Greylisting has many issues with newer smtp firewalls and spam
 appliances. As they do not have much space, they usually do not retry
 after receiving an error 4xx. As such we are not going to be including
 greylisting in the QmailToaster.

 That said, there is info on simple greylisting here:
 http://www.kabewm.com/?p=19

 I believe someone on this list had released a concurrency limit per ip
 using tcpserver, instead of global. It will probably be a part of the
 QmailToaster soon.

 Thanks,
 Erik

 On 2/9/07, 24x7server [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi

 nowadays once every week or so we get an enormous number of spam hits
 which increases the number of concurrent incoming connections to around
 250, causing too much load on server. reducing this figure means our
 clients suffer.

 normally concurrency incoming it is just 25 - 40 range.

 we are planning to use greylisting, searched and found quite a few
 websites providing patches

 a) can anybody point us to good working patch wherein we can have grey
 and whitelisting of ips known servers

 b) is there anybody who can share their experience using greylisting
 mechanism successfully with qmail toaster, problems faced by them if
 any.

 rajesh mahadevan

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[qmailtoaster] Bug Tracker/Feature Requests

2007-02-09 Thread Erik Espinoza

Greetings,

I have set up a new ticketing system, after the loss of the old mantis.

It is available at http://devel.qmailtoaster.com/flyspray/ for all to
use. Feel free to report bugs and feature requests here.

Just remember the mailing list is for support, not the bug tracker.
Any support issues opened on the bug tracker will be immediately
closed.

Thanks,
Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] squirrelmail and submission port

2007-02-08 Thread Erik Espinoza

Not really. When all connections are localhost, it doesn't really help.

It does help big time for other machines.

Erik

On 2/8/07, Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2/7/07, Erik Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I usually run imapproxy on the different host and all goes well.

Looks like a useful thingie this imapproxy.

Would it be useful to use the proxy even if Qmail and Squirrelmail are
on the same server?

If so and it works, speeds up things and is stable, I'd like to see it
as a QMT RPM...

Regards,
Peter

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Re: [qmailtoaster] email address formats... including /

2007-02-08 Thread Erik Espinoza

Security wise that is a bad thing to allow, but you can follow the
chkuser instructions on the wiki and put / as an allowed character.

This will not become part of the standard install for the security implications.


Erik

On 2/8/07, Jared Markell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I'm sorry if this is on the list already, I'm just not sure how to even
begin to look. Anyways, Does anyone know how to get qmail(toaster) to accept
email addresses with / in it when users on the server try to send out to
an address with one in it? Some governmental agencies use this in their
email addresses.

For instance..

abc/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and one of our customers has to email to that address.

Thanks for any help you guys can provide.


Jared



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Re: [qmailtoaster] squirrelmail and submission port

2007-02-07 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hi Slamp


Eric,
I have done this once, SM on a different host from QT. That was REALLY SLOW
even on a 100mbps connection. So I just decided to implement proxy in apache
and now it's alot faster.


I usually run imapproxy on the different host and all goes well.

Erik

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[qmailtoaster] neat article

2007-02-07 Thread Erik Espinoza

January 27, 2006
http://www.serverwatch.com/news/article.php/3580951

Page 2:
Tips of the Trade

You've probably heard the praises of Qmail, Professor Dan Bernstein's
excellent MTA, and you may even have tried to set up a mail server
with it. Chances are you found the documentation to be not entirely
adequate, and community support not quite what it could be either. Any
problems you encountered are not because you're not smart enough but
because getting help is sometimes more difficult than it needs to be.

Don't give up on Qmail yet because it is a great MTA. Bernstein claims
it will move more messages on old weak hardware than any MTA on any
platform, and he is so certain it is completely secure that he
promises a $500 cash reward to anyone who can find a security flaw.

To install and administer Qmail the easy way, take a look at Qmail
Toaster. Qmail Toaster packages a complete mail server, based on
Qmail, into easy-to-install RPM packages. You get everything you need:
Webmail, anti-malware, a mailing list manager, IMAP and POP mail,
encryption, a MySQL database backend, SPF (Sender Policy Framework)
and a Web-based administration panel. There is even a Sendmail
migration tool. An MS Exchange migration tool would make even more
admins happy.

Qmail Toaster works with Red Hat Linux, CentOS, Fedora, Mandriva,
Trustix, and Open SUSE. It installs from source RPMs, so you can
install it on other RPM-based systems by tweaking the spec files a
bit. With the automated install you'll have a fully functioning mail
server in a couple of hours or less. You may also install individual
components manually, and take complete control of the installation.

Qmail Toaster has no commercial support, but the mailing list is
refreshingly civilized and helpful. In addition, every component of
the server is standard free/open source software, and it has its own
documentation and user communities.

Carla Schroder writes the Tips of the Trade section of Enterprise Unix
Roundup. She also appears on Enterprise Networking Planet and Linux
Planet, covering Linux from the desktop to the server room. She is the
author of the Linux Cookbook and the upcoming Linux Networking
Cookbook.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] squirrelmail and submission port

2007-02-07 Thread Erik Espinoza

Good point. Before it worked without authorization cuz I borked an
init script that Jean-Paul found and fixed.

But in the latest version on the devel site, you can't point to port
587. I'll update the default tcp.smtp to skip rbl's on localhost.
Someone should put that in the wiki. ;)

Erik

On 2/7/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That's my understanding, based on man rblsmtpd.
So, is it better to run through port 25 with rbl transparent, or run though
587 with no rbl but with authorization? Wouldn't the authorization be
unnecessary from SM on localhost?

Bill Kwok wrote:
 Hi Slamp,

 Thank you for the clarification but sorry for my ignorance.  If we have
 the *127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=* in tcp.smtp, will the
 RBLSMTPD process still be involved, but just return a pass status?

 Best regards,
 Bill


 On 2/8/07, *slamp slamp* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Erik for making the change in the future SM rpm.

 Bill,
 To me the real benefit of using the submission port is speed and
 reliability. The stock SM uses smtp to send mail and gets checked
 for RBLs. The reason the submission was added was to provide a way
 of sending without being checked for RBLs but still required to
 authenticate.

 Eric,
 I have done this once, SM on a different host from QT. That was
 REALLY SLOW even on a 100mbps connection. So I just decided to
 implement proxy in apache and now it's alot faster.


 On 2/7/07, *Jake Vickers* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Eric Shubes wrote:
  Now you've got me thinking, Bill. (which is sometimes dangerous!)
 
  For the stock toaster, you bring up a good point.
 
  What if I were an Enterprise type of user and wanted to run SM
 on a separate
  host from the toaster? How difficult would that be? Can the
 toaster be
  packaged in such a way as to make this easier, without
 'hurting' the stock
  toaster? IOW, make them loosely (minimally) coupled?
 
 Look at the config.pl file for SM. It's in
 /usr/share/squirrelmail/config/
 You should be able to edit all the functions, and tell it what IMAP
 server to utilize. I haven't messed with this in a long time,
 but you
 may also be able to adjust the port. So in theory, yes, you
 could use SM
 on a different server and just have it IMAP to your real mail
 server.





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Re: [qmailtoaster] squirrelmail and submission port

2007-02-06 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hey Slamp,

I was under the impression that Squirrelmail used /usr/sbin/sendmail
to send mail, not smtp. Doesn't your config.php have $useSendmail
  = true;

Erik

The reason squirrelmail uses
On 2/6/07, slamp slamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is there a reason why the default config of squirrelmail is not using the
submission port? Is it really necessary for squirrelmail to be checked
against RBL's? I found that squirrelmail is much faster (sending) when
configured to use the submission port since it bypasses RBL checks. This
also prevents the error Server replied: 354 when an RBL timeout occurs.

BTW I just updated to the latest and greatest including the 3 devel packages
and everything is perfect (knocks on wood).

Thanks.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Can't locate Crypt/OpenSSL/Bignum.pm

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

I wish the stock toaster used RPMFORGE for perl modules. yum is so much
easier (and you can tell what files belong to which package). ;)


1) Not all distros support yum
2) RPMForge doesn't support all distros we support
3) Crypt::OpenSSL::Bignum is a dep for Mail::DomainKeys and should
have been installed automagically by CPAN.

Sucks that CPAN isn't doing it's part of the equation.

Thanks,
Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] changing form djbdns to bind

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

I always recommend the use of forwarders. The DNS System only works
because of all the caching, if everyone went to the root name servers
for every query, we'd flood the system. I always install bind,
bind-chroot  caching-nameserver.

I also change options to the following:

options {
   directory /var/named;
   dump-file /var/named/data/cache_dump.db;
   statistics-file /var/named/data/named_stats.txt;
   forward only;
   forwarders { DNSIP1; DNSIP2; };
   allow-recursion { 127.0.0.1; };
   version Smart Ass Remark;
};


Thanks,
Erik

On 2/4/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Eric Shubes wrote:
 bind-chroot is excess (give a bit more security, but the setup is more
 complicated).

 Apparently I missed something (again). What's there to set up? I just
 install it and it runs.


Back in times to RHEL2 it was required to do additional setup to get
Bind chrooted correctly. I'm not sure that installing bind-chroot will
do all the work required, but I hadn't used it since that old times though.

 It is more important to add to /etc/named.conf the following:

 to the options { }; clause:

 options {
 allow-transfer{ none; };
 allow-notify { none; };
 allow-recursion { 127.0.0.0/8; your-subnet/mask; };
 version Mind your own business!;
 };

 What does this do? Is it needed if the toaster's behind a firewall? How
 important is it?

It restricts access to Bind only for specified subnets (important),
refuses to allow IXRF zone transfers (not so important in case of just
caching nameserver, but it wouldn't hurt anyway), and prevents hackers
from querying the version of the Bing you've got (very important).

 Someone (EE I think) on the list a while back recommending forward first
 and forwarders for caching options too.

It is just a matter of habbit. Caching nameserver can do all the
recursion required to resolve a hostname by itself. But it can also use
DNS servers specified by admin to do resolving (forwarders). It is up to
admin to decide, which method to use.

--
Best regards,
Alexey Loukianov  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
System Engineer,
IT Department,
Lavtech Corp.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hi ES,


Without looking at the code in much detail, I can tell that the problem lies
with version numbering. This routine assumes (erroneously) that packages
have a version number that conforms to n.n.n-n.n.n format. While this is
true for toaster packages, it's not true for other packages such as zlib
which have both non-toaster and toaster versions. Why the toaster version of
zlib isn't named zlib-toaster, I've no idea. I also don't know what the
difference is between the toaster and non-toaster versions. I think it's
safe to say that you probably want the toaster version though (that's what
I'm running).


The name is kept the same (sans toaster) because it is a dependency
for so many packages. The reason we include it is because there are
clamd issues with older versions of zlib. It is not installed unless
necessary, for example on FC6 which ships with the same version of
zlib, we don't install it when using the fc6 install script.


If your toaster is not currently deployed (running live), the fix is easy.
Simply
# rpm -e --nodeps zlib
to remove the existing package. The toaster's zlib should be automatically
selected and installed, and away you go.


I'd be careful of running this command, as you can be left with a broken system.

Thanks,
Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hey ES,


Is there a specific version of zlib I can check for in qtp-newmodel (i.e. if
zlib ?.?.?-?.? or better is installed, don't bother with the toaster
version), so that it only asks for the toaster version when necessary?


Execute this: rpm -q --queryformat %{name}-%{version}\n zlib
Should come back with this: zlib-1.2.3


Now that I think of it though, rpmbuild might not work without it. EGADS!
I suppose that it could always be yum'd back though, no?


I never had to remove the current zlib package to upgrade. As far as
yum, it may not work as zlib is required for rpm decompression. I'd be
very careful when removing zlib.

Thanks,
Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Correct.

On 2/5/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Hey ES,

 Is there a specific version of zlib I can check for in qtp-newmodel
 (i.e. if
 zlib ?.?.?-?.? or better is installed, don't bother with the toaster
 version), so that it only asks for the toaster version when necessary?

 Execute this: rpm -q --queryformat %{name}-%{version}\n zlib
 Should come back with this: zlib-1.2.3

So if it's 1.2.3 or better, we don't need the toaster version, right?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] cannot establish SMTP connection

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

That is giving you an error saying that delapp02.occa.state.ok.us, the
mail server in charge of mail for oscn.net, didn't accept your mail.
Basically the issue is at their end.

Erik

On 2/5/07, Steve Ingraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Below is an error message one of my users received today.  Can anyone
explain to me what this means concerning the . . .wasn't able to establish
an SMTP connection?  Is this telling me there is an issue with our qmail
toaster or that the receiving server has an SMTP problem?

Thanks,

Steve

___

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 12:59 PM

To: Molly Reid

Subject: failure notice



Hi. This is the qmail-send program at dellapp02.occa.state.ok.us. I'm afraid
I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a
permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Sorry, I wasn't able to establish an SMTP connection. (#4.4.1) I'm not going
to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Installation problems

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hi ES,


EE, what's up with Mandriva? Did we go back to the mdk10* numbers instead of
the mdv20* numbers? Is Mandriva 2007 not available?


Couldn't tell you. I've only done the port for FC6 and maintenance
work. Perhaps Nick might be able to shed some light on this. Currently
I test on CentOS 3, 4 and FC6 on 32-bit. I don't have the time to test
on much else, nor the infrastructure. As far as I know, the web site
is correct with mdk103.

Thanks,
Erk

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Re: [qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hey Trung,

Just change /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run and set REQUIRE_AUTH=1 to
say export REQUIRE_AUTH=1.

It's all this upgrade will do.

On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I changed the port to 587 and that seems to work.

What is the recent fuss about the export REQUIRE_AUTH=1? I dont really
want to update the qmail-toaster package. Scared of blowing the toaster
up.

 Currently, my email server prevents people from sending email via outlook
 because of dynamic IP blacklist.

 I believe using submission port will get around this problem. And the
 recent toaster build has submission port. But I wasn't able to find any
 document showing how to set it up in outlook.

 Please give me some hint if you have successfully used submission port via
 outlook.

 Thanks.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Correction, follow Jean-Paul's instructions. Mine will ruin your system.

Erik

On 2/5/07, Erik Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey Trung,

Just change /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run and set REQUIRE_AUTH=1 to
say export REQUIRE_AUTH=1.

It's all this upgrade will do.

On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I changed the port to 587 and that seems to work.

 What is the recent fuss about the export REQUIRE_AUTH=1? I dont really
 want to update the qmail-toaster package. Scared of blowing the toaster
 up.

  Currently, my email server prevents people from sending email via outlook
  because of dynamic IP blacklist.
 
  I believe using submission port will get around this problem. And the
  recent toaster build has submission port. But I wasn't able to find any
  document showing how to set it up in outlook.
 
  Please give me some hint if you have successfully used submission port via
  outlook.
 
  Thanks.
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] How do I use Outlook with submission?

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

No, I made a mistake in my instructions. Requiring auth on the smtp
port is bad and will break everything. Jean-Paul sent the correct
instructions. I answered off the top of my head, without double
checking. My apologies.

Thanks,
Erik

On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erik,

Are you trying to be funny? Cuz you're confusing me. =P

 Correction, follow Jean-Paul's instructions. Mine will ruin your system.

 Erik

 On 2/5/07, Erik Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Trung,

 Just change /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run and set REQUIRE_AUTH=1 to
 say export REQUIRE_AUTH=1.

 It's all this upgrade will do.

 On 2/5/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I changed the port to 587 and that seems to work.
 
  What is the recent fuss about the export REQUIRE_AUTH=1? I dont really
  want to update the qmail-toaster package. Scared of blowing the
 toaster
  up.
 
   Currently, my email server prevents people from sending email via
 outlook
   because of dynamic IP blacklist.
  
   I believe using submission port will get around this problem. And
 the
   recent toaster build has submission port. But I wasn't able to find
 any
   document showing how to set it up in outlook.
  
   Please give me some hint if you have successfully used submission
 port via
   outlook.
  
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Re: [qmailtoaster] toaster as internal relay.

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Put ',SENDER_NOCHECK=1' at the end of the relayclient line for the
internal ip addresses.

On 2/5/07, slamp slamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi list,

I have different linux servers that are internal only but would like to use
toaster as the relay. Basically I do not want any mail residing on the local
linux servers.

So far I've allowed the IP of my linux servers in tcp.smtp (same as 127
line) and able to relay to the toaster ONLY if I rewrite the from address. I
do not want to rewrite because I would like to be able to tell where the
mail is coming from (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
Below is the error message I get.


2007-02-05 19:39:38.952825500 tcpserver: status: 0/100
2007-02-05 19:40:44.788782500 tcpserver: status: 1/100
2007-02-05 19:40:44.788788500 tcpserver: pid 31891 from 192.168.1.3
2007-02-05 19:40:44.788791500 tcpserver: ok 31891
external.domain.com:192.168.1.4:25 :192.168.1.3::56139
2007-02-05 19:40:45.884438500 CHKUSER rejected sender: from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:: remote
internal.lan.com:unknown:192.168.1.3 rcpt  : invalid
sender MX domain
2007-02-05 19:40:45.908143500 tcpserver: end 31891 status 0

FYI: I do not have an internal DNS where I could setup an MX record for
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Try copying the zlib binaries using wget or curl or something. Put
them into the lib dir, then install the rpm.

Erik

On 2/5/07, David J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Upgrade through qtp-newmodel Error


 Erik Espinoza wrote:
 I'd be careful of running this command, as you can be left with a broken
 system.

 Eric Shubes wrote:
  That's why I asked if he was running live. ;)

 Now that I think of it though, rpmbuild might not work without it. EGADS!
 I suppose that it could always be yum'd back though, no?


When zlib is not available, rpmbuild, rpm and yum cannot be executed. that
was I encountered yesterday, untill I revive with other zlib source.

Regards,

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors]

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Espinoza

Yes. Dev is ready to go.

Erik

On 2/5/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

David J. wrote:
 Shubes wrote:

 Thanks for the Kudos, David. If it ain't fun, it's not worth doing. ;)

 FWIW, you can go ahead and get started with the upgrade. The downloads
 and
 compiles and such can run while the toaster's up. It'll get to a point
 where
 it'll tell you it's ready to do the update:

 session example
 The major portion of the install/upgrade process is now complete.
 You may rerun this script later and simply process the update.

 We are ready to do the update now. qmail will be stopped.
 Shall we continue? (yes, no|skip, batch, quit) [y] / n|s / b / q : q
 /session example

 Simply enter q to quit at this point. Then when you rerun qtp-newmodel
 later, it'll recognize everything that's already been done. Choose to
 reuse
 the existing sandbox, and it'll bring you right back to the same point
 rather quickly. The entire upgrade should take you less that 10
 minutes at
 that point.

 Does the qmail-toaster and courier-authlib from development are fine to
 installed..??


Probably, but I can't vouch for them (haven't installed them yet myself).

Do you feel lucky? ;)

EE can tell you better than I can. We're working on getting change logging
visibility improved. EE's very busy though.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-02-01 Thread Erik Espinoza

Other than it's the standard, no.

Erik

On 2/1/07, Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

On 2/1/07, George Sweetnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I used to setup port 26 for customers (before submission and didn't use smtp
 auth's port) to get around isp's blocking port 25 to send (for our hosted
 customers off-net).  I allow relaying for friendly ip's through submission,

I still use this method: I run another smtp at port 2525 for authentication.

Is there any reason I should change to using the submission port?

Regards,
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[qmailtoaster] DEVEL PACKAGE: courier-authlib

2007-02-01 Thread Erik Espinoza

Greetings,

I have released an updated courier-authlib package on the devel site
(http://devel.qmailtoaster.com/).

Feel free to download and update. The current round of packages will
be moved from devel to stable later this week. I plan to add an
updated qmailadmin within the week.

Erik

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[qmailtoaster] DEVEL PACKAGE: clamav-toaster

2007-02-01 Thread Erik Espinoza

Greetings,

I have just released a newer devel version of the clamav-toaster
package. This is based on version 0.90rc3 and includes FixStaleSocket
set to yes by default. This should allow recovery after a loss of
power and a more efficient virus scanner than the old 0.88.x branch.

This is available from the devel site (http://devel.qmailtoaster.com/).

Thanks,
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Re: Re[2]: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

A BSD admin that can take qmailtoaster and make it run on BSD can
implmenet a firewall policy using ipf.

I don't think having two tcp.smtp's is going to help, it doesn't seem
to solve any problems we are having.


Erik

On 1/31/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Greetings, Eric.

31 января 2007 г., 22:05:38 you have wrote:

 Alexey Loukianov wrote:
 Greetings, Erik.

 31 ?? 2007 ?., 6:02:20 you have wrote:
 Separate tcprules file for submission port seems to me as a better
 approach. It keeps administration of QT flexible and unified, and also
 it is more cross-platforming way, as tcpserver works on any platform
 qmail can run on, while iptables is available only on linux systems
 based on kernels 2.4.x and later.

 Who cares? We don't even support Debian. . . :)

 Me, for example ;-D. A friend of mine, also a system engineer,
 administer small FreeBSD based cluster, and he uses QT in his setup.
 Accordingly to his words, it wasn't too hard to build and install RPM
 system on his BSD boxes, and then to correct specs so basic QT parts
 builds up and install successfully.

 Well, in any case we can always create tcp.submission ourselves, just
 like I do it for tcp.pop3 ;-D. But the laziness of sysadmin is the
 thing that makes me want tcp.submission to be included in stock
 toaster.

 I agree with Alexey on this. Besides which, wouldn't it be nice to have QT
 on BSD as well? I wonder if Alexey's friend would care to contribute in this
 area.

It is not so easy, as BSD way is not to use RPMS, while main toaster
advantage is it's RPM nature. A friend of mine came to BSD world from
RedHad based linux distros, that is why he uses RPM even on BSD - it
is just a matter of habbit.

Well, it is still possible to port QT on BSD and distribute is as a
bunch of tarballs if we will find some BSD geek who will want to
maintenance it. But I don't think it is a urgent task for qt-dev team
;-D.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

ES, port 587 is all about SMTP-AUTH, meaning that tcprules shouldn't
really matter as it's all done through auth. Port 25 doesn't require
auth, therefore it would need independent control.

What possible scenario would we need to control port 587 independently
of port 25 and why?

This seems like unnecessary complication, with no pay off at all.

Erik

On 1/31/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Problem: controlling/configuring smtp and submission independently is
difficult, if not impossible.

Is there are reason why there *shouldn't* be separate tcprules files? I see
no advantage to having them share the same one.

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 A BSD admin that can take qmailtoaster and make it run on BSD can
 implmenet a firewall policy using ipf.

 I don't think having two tcp.smtp's is going to help, it doesn't seem
 to solve any problems we are having.


 Erik

 On 1/31/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings, Eric.

 31 января 2007 г., 22:05:38 you have wrote:

  Alexey Loukianov wrote:
  Greetings, Erik.
 
  31 ?? 2007 ?., 6:02:20 you have wrote:
  Separate tcprules file for submission port seems to me as a better
  approach. It keeps administration of QT flexible and unified, and
 also
  it is more cross-platforming way, as tcpserver works on any platform
  qmail can run on, while iptables is available only on linux systems
  based on kernels 2.4.x and later.
 
  Who cares? We don't even support Debian. . . :)
 
  Me, for example ;-D. A friend of mine, also a system engineer,
  administer small FreeBSD based cluster, and he uses QT in his setup.
  Accordingly to his words, it wasn't too hard to build and install RPM
  system on his BSD boxes, and then to correct specs so basic QT parts
  builds up and install successfully.
 
  Well, in any case we can always create tcp.submission ourselves, just
  like I do it for tcp.pop3 ;-D. But the laziness of sysadmin is the
  thing that makes me want tcp.submission to be included in stock
  toaster.
 
  I agree with Alexey on this. Besides which, wouldn't it be nice to
 have QT
  on BSD as well? I wonder if Alexey's friend would care to contribute
 in this
  area.

 It is not so easy, as BSD way is not to use RPMS, while main toaster
 advantage is it's RPM nature. A friend of mine came to BSD world from
 RedHad based linux distros, that is why he uses RPM even on BSD - it
 is just a matter of habbit.

 Well, it is still possible to port QT on BSD and distribute is as a
 bunch of tarballs if we will find some BSD geek who will want to
 maintenance it. But I don't think it is a urgent task for qt-dev team
 ;-D.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] UPDATE qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.13.src.rpm URGENT

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

The package has been moved to the devel site.

Thanks,
Erik

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Hi,

This release fixes a mistake in the run script for the submission port.

I suggest everyone using the submission port to upgrade asap to this
release.

Or to manualy change the run script by changing the line
REQUIRE_AUTH=1
to
export REQUIRE_AUTH=1

For now you can download the new rpm at :
http://iserve01.i-serve.net/qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.13.src.rpm

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Re: [qmailtoaster] one question

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hey Daniel,

Here is a link to a modified squirrelmail that may fit your need.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/squirreloutlook/

In general this list is about the QmailToaster. We will try to help
with other things, but Alexey was just letting you know that you may
not find the info you seek on this list.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/31/07, Daniel R. Hdez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

HI Alexey,

I use QmailToaster, sorry for this, i no wirte any more here.

Thanks


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To: Daniel R. Hdez qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] one question


 Greetings, Daniel.

 31 ?? 2007 ?., 20:49:41 you have wrote:
 Exist any program that permit conect to mail server  by httpmail
 with the client aoutlook, like to hotmail.

 You know, your question is a bit unrelated to QmailToaster, so I think
 that you will not get any valuable answer here.

 Well, who knows...

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Re: [qmailtoaster] possible inclusion in toaster

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

Nice suggestion, but seriously it's not worth us supporting more
packages than we already support.

Dag does a great job with his packaging, it'd be best to use his
package if it works for you.

We're concentrating on making a mail system as best as it can be.
We're not trying to handle every aspect of the system you are running.
That's for the admin to determine.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/31/07, Dan Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello guys.

I've built a few toasters over the last year. I love the process, quick
and painless (at least till you need to modify spam settigns), anyway.
For the most part most people use a stock rpm based *nix and throw in
the toaster, which is what I do as well.  the only software I add is a
small program called denyhosts.  this thing is a real lifesaver.  Before
using it I was getting upwards of 4000 break in attempts through ssh.
now I'm down to a handful a day.  It's easy enough to install but maybe
you wanna think about including it?  I know this will be just 1 more
thing to support, but it seems my mail servers get hit much harder on
ssh then my other servers.  If not included maybe add it on the wiki, or
related product page. Just my 2 cents.

Dan Page

P.S.  There are already rpm's of the package at:
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylist for qmailtoaster

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hello PV

Very basic greylisting available here:
http://www.kabewm.com/?p=19

I recommend against  greylisting in general as many spam appliances
and firewalls that people use as proxies for their Exchange server (or
other servers) do not handle error 4xx as temporary errors. Instead
they kick back an error to the user and reject all mail from those
sites. Sure they are not following the standard, but you're the one
that's going to hear about it and deal with troubleshooting sites with
little/no information.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/31/07, P.V.Anthony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I am thinking about trying out greylist for the qmailtoaster currently
running on our server. I heard great reports from my friend who is using
it on sendmail.

Is there any patch that I could use and just compile only the smtp? Is
that even possible? Or do I have to recompile everything?

Then run the smtp-grey on another ip so that it can be tested on a
domain to see if it works. I know I will have to add a MX record for the
testing domain.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

P.V.Anthony

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Re: [qmailtoaster] one question

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

Definitely outside the scope of QmailToaster.

That said: http://ypopsemail.com/

I don't know about Hotmail though.

On 1/31/07, Jean-Paul van de Plasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think he means he wants to access his mail by using a different connector
then imap/pop3.
Like there is a hotmail connector in outlook over http/https.

I really doubt there is anything that does this , and also I see no good
reason you would want it.

JP

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] one question


Hey Daniel,

Here is a link to a modified squirrelmail that may fit your need.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/squirreloutlook/

In general this list is about the QmailToaster. We will try to help
with other things, but Alexey was just letting you know that you may
not find the info you seek on this list.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/31/07, Daniel R. Hdez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HI Alexey,

 I use QmailToaster, sorry for this, i no wirte any more here.

 Thanks


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 To: Daniel R. Hdez qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] one question


  Greetings, Daniel.
 
  31 ?? 2007 ?., 20:49:41 you have wrote:
  Exist any program that permit conect to mail server  by httpmail
  with the client aoutlook, like to hotmail.
 
  You know, your question is a bit unrelated to QmailToaster, so I think
  that you will not get any valuable answer here.
 
  Well, who knows...
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

 ES, port 587 is all about SMTP-AUTH, meaning that tcprules shouldn't
 really matter as it's all done through auth. Port 25 doesn't require
 auth, therefore it would need independent control.

This sounds to me like a good argument *for* separating them. The processes
are inherently (naturally) different.

Saying that tcprules shouldn't really matter for submission isn't really
the case. It's true that there should essentially be no rules, but that's
different. If you  need to put constraints on MTA sessions, as Stephen
needed to do (remember what started this thread?), they would be
inappropriate for MSA sessions (which would need to be wide open), which
causes a problem.


I don't see how tcprules would fix Stephen's problem. He's basically
ticked that spammers are hitting his hidden server directly. I say
don't just hide it, firewall it.


 What possible scenario would we need to control port 587 independently
 of port 25 and why?

Any time that an admin might need to control MTA traffic/access
independently of MSA. The MSA rules would be simple and static (practically
non existent, because SMTP-AUTH is handling everything, and would rarely
need to change), while most of the tailoring (allowing only MTA from a
limited set of servers, for instance) would exist in the MTA rules.

 This seems like unnecessary complication, with no pay off at all.

I guess what you see as complication I see as simplicity. The payoff is
being able to change MTA behavior without impacting the MSA. This is the
same reason that MSA was separated to begin with, was it not?


Show me one scenario where this would make sense? I can't think of one.

Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Switching from pop3 to IMAP and how to backup e.mails archives

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

Yes , we have 4 sales manager who are often abroad and we recently
bought blackberry devices with a wordlwide flatrate contract .
What they want is  to have a central repository .I mean ,  if they
erase  a msg while they are away (i.e with their blackberry) , they
don't want to find it again on their desktop pc's once they are in the
office.


Buy Blackberry Enterprise Server.

Thanks,
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Re: [qmailtoaster] spamhaus - what do you think?

2007-01-30 Thread Erik Espinoza

http://www.corpit.ru/mjt/rbldnsd.html

On 1/30/07, Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Eric Shubes wrote:
 Jake Vickers wrote:


 Do you guys think a wiki page should be started so we can all help each
other out to find a good mix to replace zen?

 I'd like to see some collaboration on RBLs in general. I suppose we could
use the wiki in addition to this list.


 At this point I'd even be amicable to running a BL, so that it fit MY
needs; it would be nice if it fit other people's needs as well.
 I took a quick peek on the 'net, but couldn't find anything that had any
example scripts/submission pages to run your own BL. Guess I'll look some
more later, but I'll probably end up just going with a new set of BLs to
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin has problem in scanning

2007-01-30 Thread Erik Espinoza

I'm using OpenProtect on my QmailToaster. Works beautifully.

Erik

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ashok wrote:

 Dear Alexey,,

 I  did not install simscan-toaster bcoz it gave me some problems ,, So I
 have used openprotect with my qmail toaster.

 www.openprotect.com http://www.openprotect.com/   [ include SPAM +
 Virus filtering ] which can be easily integrated to qmail toaster.

I'd be leery of straying this far from the stock toaster. What problem(s)
did you have with simscan?

I wouldn't expect much help with openprotect from this list. Does
openprotect have a community for support?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin has problem in scanning

2007-01-30 Thread Erik Espinoza

Updated rules, catches more of the stock spam and what not.

It's nice. Read up at http://saupdates.openprotect.com/

Erik

On 1/30/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Cool.
What does it do that the stock toaster doesn't?

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 I'm using OpenProtect on my QmailToaster. Works beautifully.

 Erik

 On 1/30/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ashok wrote:
 
  Dear Alexey,,

  I  did not install simscan-toaster bcoz it gave me some problems ,,
 So I
  have used openprotect with my qmail toaster.
 
  www.openprotect.com http://www.openprotect.com/   [ include SPAM +
  Virus filtering ] which can be easily integrated to qmail toaster.

 I'd be leery of straying this far from the stock toaster. What problem(s)
 did you have with simscan?

 I wouldn't expect much help with openprotect from this list. Does
 openprotect have a community for support?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Yahoo bulk seems SOLVED but Hotmail Junk PROBLEM

2007-01-30 Thread Erik Espinoza

I just replace v=spf1 w/ spf2.0/mfrom and use the same line twice.

Erik

On 1/30/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 As a Hotmail user I've always felt as though the Spam goes into the
 Inbox and the Good stuff is always in the Junk Folder. However, for my
 domain I have two txt records:

 $ host -t txt kabewm.com
 kabewm.com text spf2.0/mfrom mx ip4:12.168.80.34 ip4:216.31.139.108 ~all
 kabewm.com text v=spf1 mx ip4:12.168.80.34 ip4:216.31.139.108 ~all

 And Hotmail doesn't Junk Mail my stuff.

 Erik


Is this the recommended practice then, to have a record for both SPF
versions? If so, I can update the wiki (that page could use some work as it is).
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Yahoo bulk seems SOLVED but Hotmail Junk PROBLEM

2007-01-30 Thread Erik Espinoza

ES,

Take a look at my actual line by typing 'host -t txt kabewm.com'

The first line is basically the same as the second, just one minor
change. Althoiugh QmailToaster doesn't support spf2 (aka SenderID),
but it doesn't matter since we're publishing both records.

Erik

On 1/30/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I see that.

Is this the recommended practice? Because some servers haven't been updated
to v2 yet?

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 I just replace v=spf1 w/ spf2.0/mfrom and use the same line twice.

 Erik

 On 1/30/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Erik Espinoza wrote:
  As a Hotmail user I've always felt as though the Spam goes into the
  Inbox and the Good stuff is always in the Junk Folder. However, for my
  domain I have two txt records:
 
  $ host -t txt kabewm.com
  kabewm.com text spf2.0/mfrom mx ip4:12.168.80.34 ip4:216.31.139.108
 ~all
  kabewm.com text v=spf1 mx ip4:12.168.80.34 ip4:216.31.139.108 ~all
 
  And Hotmail doesn't Junk Mail my stuff.
 
  Erik
 

 Is this the recommended practice then, to have a record for both SPF
 versions? If so, I can update the wiki (that page could use some work
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-30 Thread Erik Espinoza

Indeed, I'd run port 25 and iptables it so that only the scanning
server can connect. Then force the users to use the standard port of
587 for outgoing smtp.

Erik

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Stephen Spicer wrote:

 Hello List,

 I have a small problem I though someone might have a solution for.

 I put an anti-spam server in front of our local qmail system and this is
 working pretty well, it has dropped the load on our qmail server
 drastically.

 The problem I'm having is spammers are sending email directly to our
 server bypassing the anti-spam server, I have tried a deny in
 /etc/tcpserver.d/tcp.smtp file but then we have problems with offsite
 customers connecting via smtp, I thought that smtp relay was supposed to
 get set if they have an authenticated account but apparently I'm not
 understanding fully how this is supposed to work.

Sounds to me like you need two tcprules (tcp.smtp) files, one for port 25
(allowing connections from your anti-spam server and deny everything else),
and a separate one for port 587 (submissions). In the present stock toaster,
the two qmail-smtp processes share the same tcp.smtp.cdb (tcprules) file. I
think you can simply configure a separate tcp.smtp.cdb (tcp.submit.cdb or
some other name) file, one for each port. Then change the appropriate run
file and qmailctl script accordingly.

Someone will undoubtedly correct me here if this isn't right, or there's a
better way.

EE, it might not be a bad idea to create a separate tcprules file for
submissions. I'm kinda surprised you didn't do this when you created the
submission port. :(

 Anyway I need Mr. Toaster to receive smtp connections from customers
 local and off subnet and only except email from our anti-spam system,
 other than that I want all smtp rejected. I thought about adding a deny
 for the spammers that are sending directly to the qmail system but there
 are really to many.

 Thanks for any help/ideas,

 Stephen


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin has problem in scanning

2007-01-30 Thread Erik Espinoza

I  haven't used rdj. Not planning on including in the stock toaster. I
think any customization to SpamAssassin should be done by the admin.

On 1/30/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Looks good. I think I'll add it to qtp, unless you're planning on including
it in the stock toaster.

Any thoughts on rules_du_jour vs openprotect?

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Updated rules, catches more of the stock spam and what not.

 It's nice. Read up at http://saupdates.openprotect.com/

 Erik

 On 1/30/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cool.
 What does it do that the stock toaster doesn't?

 Erik Espinoza wrote:
  I'm using OpenProtect on my QmailToaster. Works beautifully.
 
  Erik
 
  On 1/30/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ashok wrote:
  
   Dear Alexey,,
 
   I  did not install simscan-toaster bcoz it gave me some problems ,,
  So I
   have used openprotect with my qmail toaster.
  
   www.openprotect.com http://www.openprotect.com/   [ include SPAM +
   Virus filtering ] which can be easily integrated to qmail toaster.
 
  I'd be leery of straying this far from the stock toaster. What
 problem(s)
  did you have with simscan?
 
  I wouldn't expect much help with openprotect from this list. Does
  openprotect have a community for support?
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-30 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hi Alexey,


Separate tcprules file for submission port seems to me as a better
approach. It keeps administration of QT flexible and unified, and also
it is more cross-platforming way, as tcpserver works on any platform
qmail can run on, while iptables is available only on linux systems
based on kernels 2.4.x and later.


Who cares? We don't even support Debian. . . :)

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Re: [qmailtoaster] How do you suspend an email box or several email boxes?

2007-01-30 Thread Erik Espinoza

Change their passwords.

Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Yahoo bulk seems SOLVED but Hotmail Junk PROBLEM

2007-01-29 Thread Erik Espinoza

As a Hotmail user I've always felt as though the Spam goes into the
Inbox and the Good stuff is always in the Junk Folder. However, for my
domain I have two txt records:

$ host -t txt kabewm.com
kabewm.com text spf2.0/mfrom mx ip4:12.168.80.34 ip4:216.31.139.108 ~all
kabewm.com text v=spf1 mx ip4:12.168.80.34 ip4:216.31.139.108 ~all

And Hotmail doesn't Junk Mail my stuff.

Erik

On 1/29/07, bb. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I do not think so. But plus, i did those:

SPF record
Reverse DNS
Check if IP is in black list.

Seems thats all for Yahoo, may try in other Yahoo
accounts to see results.

But for Hotmail, i reffered to:

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/safety/technologies/senderid/default.mspx

and checked our SPF if it is ok at:

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/safety/content/technologies/senderid/wizard/default.aspx

and emailed to HUMAN at microsoft, they wanted some
info, checked and as result they said:

Sender Score (www.senderscorecertified.com) is the
only White Listing service to which we subscribe.

and it seems we must pay hundereds of dollars per
month but i am not sure, is there anyone who solved
for free?



--- Harry Zink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Jan 29, 2007, at 10:42 PM, bb. wrote:

  We do not use domain keys. Our first emails were
 in
  Bulk folder but when we checked them as not spam,
  Yahoo learned and now they go to inbox (Even
 sender is
  not in adress book)

 For you - other recipients will still get them in
 spam inbox.

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[qmailtoaster] RELEASE PACKAGE: qmail-toaster, ucspi-tcp-toaster, simscan-toaster, control-panel-toaster

2007-01-28 Thread Erik Espinoza

Greetings,

I have finally moved the packages from devel to stable. The only
package remaining in devel is the ClamAV. This is not due to the
package being insecure or untrustworthy, but more because it is a
Release Candidate. Once ClamAV 0.90 is released, I will make that the
new stable package fairly quickly.

Thanks,
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Re: [qmailtoaster] overquota.msg typo again

2007-01-28 Thread Erik Espinoza

I'll investigate Trac. I've used Mantis before and liked that.

Erik

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Typo in /home/vpopmail/domains/.overquota.msg:

This user has exceeded there mail quota.

there = their

I've reported this before...but?

It seems we could use a system for managing bugs tasks and issues. It could be as 
easy as adding an ISSUES page to the wiki, although it could become unmanageable 
quickly if there are more than a few items. I'd be more inclined to setup and use 
web-based issue-tracking software such as Trac www.edgewall.com/trac. We use 
that constantly here at Strangecode and it is awesome. Or even a hosted system like 
bugzilla.

Whichever system is used it is essential of course that it *is* used 
consistently. If y'all think Trac is an aTractive option I'm happy to assist in 
installing or even hosting it on our servers (eg: trac.qmailtoaster.com).

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Re: [qmailtoaster] SRS with multi frontend smtp

2007-01-27 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hey Phil,

Set SRS on the machine that has real users. If both machines have real
users, set SRS up on both.

Don't use the same srs_domain/srs_secret unless both machines are
running in a clustered config.

Erik

On 1/27/07, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello
I was just thinking 
If you have lets say a couple of frontend smtp servers filtering emails
before delivering (smtproute) to some other qtoaster machines holding
your mailboxes.
How would you implement SRS ? If you send an email with  machine B
(where you have mailboxes and srs configured), you change your envelope
sender address of your outgoing message and if then the email gets
bounced but goes through another smtp (frontend),
machine A (the filtering machine) .
How would that work ?

You should set exactly same SECRET on all machines or by having
smtproute configured for that domain the srs check would get by passed ?
or maybe point srs.YOURDOMAIN mx record to the machine used for sending
? (if you got a few ... ?)

Just wondering on the good setup in that kind of situation

Thx
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Re: [qmailtoaster] setting noreplace more in *-toaster.specs

2007-01-27 Thread Erik Espinoza

 These too are definitely config files (the .pre extension simply means they 
are loaded before other .cf files). 7 lines are different in mine than those 
distributed (i.e. I've enabled 7 plugins). A normal spamassassin upgrade with 
never overwrite files in /etc/mail/spamassassin, so we shouldn't either.

These should definitely be tagged as noreplace in the spec file. Permanently. ;)


I put all of my custom conifg in myconfig.cf. It's easier that way,
just a thought.


 The wiki instructions for SURBL say to
 modify v310.pre to add the loading of URIDNSBL. Couldn't this be included in
 the stock toaster without changing its behavior (given the -L switch)? I
 think this would be desirable to have in the stock toaster.

 I'm not sure if URIDNSBL is enabled by -L.

-L says to use only local rules, which *disables* URIDNSBL, along with
other rules that require internet connectivity to operate. I believe this
flag is intended for stand-alone SA implementations. I don't think it's
generally a good option for the toaster. My guess is that it is intended to
'protect' a toaster that doesn't have caching DNS set up properly.


-L has been removed as a default for a long time now.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] SRS with multi frontend smtp

2007-01-27 Thread Erik Espinoza

Philip,

I don't know how you have everything configured, so I can't tell you
how to run your infrastructure.

As far as multiple entries, I'd recommend doing  srs1.yourdomain.com
for the first box, srs2.yourdomain.com and srs3 and so forth. Unless
they are running in a clustered configuration.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/27/07, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Forgot one thing :)
the srs.yourdoamin MX record should point to the server hosting the real
users or it can point to the MX with the lower priorities ?
and can you set as many MX entries as you want ?
Thx again for the help
Cheers
-P


Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Hey Phil,

 Set SRS on the machine that has real users. If both machines have real
 users, set SRS up on both.

 Don't use the same srs_domain/srs_secret unless both machines are
 running in a clustered config.

 Erik

 On 1/27/07, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello
 I was just thinking 
 If you have lets say a couple of frontend smtp servers filtering emails
 before delivering (smtproute) to some other qtoaster machines holding
 your mailboxes.
 How would you implement SRS ? If you send an email with  machine B
 (where you have mailboxes and srs configured), you change your envelope
 sender address of your outgoing message and if then the email gets
 bounced but goes through another smtp (frontend),
 machine A (the filtering machine) .
 How would that work ?

 You should set exactly same SECRET on all machines or by having
 smtproute configured for that domain the srs check would get by passed ?
 or maybe point srs.YOURDOMAIN mx record to the machine used for sending
 ? (if you got a few ... ?)

 Just wondering on the good setup in that kind of situation

 Thx
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Re: [qmailtoaster] SRS with multi frontend smtp

2007-01-27 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hey Phil,

Sounds like you have the following config:

real box - 3 scanners - Internet

If this is correct, then only the real box needs srs setup.

As far as the latest srs patch, we're already including it on the
devel site. Marcelo and I are in communication about srs status.

Erik

On 1/27/07, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi
yes was thinking doing something similiar
My concern is more the return bounced message, the outgoing signing
process is trivial

The setup I wanna add SRS support is
1 machine running a qtoaster based system, holding the real users,
machine used by the same users to send emails..
Then there are 3 other qtoaster machines dedicated to only do the
scanning and routing of the incoming mails
once scanned , emails are smtprouted to that box mentioned previously
I was wondering how the srs process handles that situation
If you only set srs on the box with the real users and the mx to that
same box .. it should work
I was wondering if setting it aswell on the filtering machines could
change its behavior

I didnt find any infos on that sort of setup.

On anothe note , a new version of the patch has been released
http://opensource.mco2.net/download/qmail/qmail-srs-0.5.patch
2007-01-11 (0.5):

* Added parameters srs_separator and srs_alwaysrewrite from libsrs2.

just for the info :)


Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Philip,

 I don't know how you have everything configured, so I can't tell you
 how to run your infrastructure.

 As far as multiple entries, I'd recommend doing  srs1.yourdomain.com
 for the first box, srs2.yourdomain.com and srs3 and so forth. Unless
 they are running in a clustered configuration.

 Thanks,
 Erik

 On 1/27/07, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Forgot one thing :)
 the srs.yourdoamin MX record should point to the server hosting the real
 users or it can point to the MX with the lower priorities ?
 and can you set as many MX entries as you want ?
 Thx again for the help
 Cheers
 -P


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  Hey Phil,
 
  Set SRS on the machine that has real users. If both machines have real
  users, set SRS up on both.
 
  Don't use the same srs_domain/srs_secret unless both machines are
  running in a clustered config.
 
  Erik
 
  On 1/27/07, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello
  I was just thinking 
  If you have lets say a couple of frontend smtp servers filtering
 emails
  before delivering (smtproute) to some other qtoaster machines holding
  your mailboxes.
  How would you implement SRS ? If you send an email with  machine B
  (where you have mailboxes and srs configured), you change your
 envelope
  sender address of your outgoing message and if then the email gets
  bounced but goes through another smtp (frontend),
  machine A (the filtering machine) .
  How would that work ?
 
  You should set exactly same SECRET on all machines or by having
  smtproute configured for that domain the srs check would get by
 passed ?
  or maybe point srs.YOURDOMAIN mx record to the machine used for
 sending
  ? (if you got a few ... ?)
 
  Just wondering on the good setup in that kind of situation
 
  Thx
  -P
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] SRS with multi frontend smtp

2007-01-27 Thread Erik Espinoza

SRS is just a rewriting scheme. It has no pass/fail, just rewrite conditions.

No need to worry about rejectoins

Erik

On 1/27/07, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Actually
it is more :
incoming : internet - scanners - real box
if all scanners are down, internet - real box (lowest mx priority)
outgoing  : realbox - internet(on that setup, customers email arent
scanned, we trust them in a way :) )

For instance with spf , all 4 servers can check if the sender's domain
complies with the domain's stated policy.
so mail can be dropped/ rejected by the scanners.
I was wondering if srs could somehow drop a bounced message at the
scanners level in that setup.
Just curious .. couldnt find much infos about it

Have a nice evening Erik and thx for the infos ..



Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Hey Phil,

 Sounds like you have the following config:

 real box - 3 scanners - Internet

 If this is correct, then only the real box needs srs setup.

 As far as the latest srs patch, we're already including it on the
 devel site. Marcelo and I are in communication about srs status.

 Erik

 On 1/27/07, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
 yes was thinking doing something similiar
 My concern is more the return bounced message, the outgoing signing
 process is trivial

 The setup I wanna add SRS support is
 1 machine running a qtoaster based system, holding the real users,
 machine used by the same users to send emails..
 Then there are 3 other qtoaster machines dedicated to only do the
 scanning and routing of the incoming mails
 once scanned , emails are smtprouted to that box mentioned previously
 I was wondering how the srs process handles that situation
 If you only set srs on the box with the real users and the mx to that
 same box .. it should work
 I was wondering if setting it aswell on the filtering machines could
 change its behavior

 I didnt find any infos on that sort of setup.

 On anothe note , a new version of the patch has been released
 http://opensource.mco2.net/download/qmail/qmail-srs-0.5.patch
 2007-01-11 (0.5):

 * Added parameters srs_separator and srs_alwaysrewrite from libsrs2.

 just for the info :)


 Erik Espinoza wrote:
  Philip,
 
  I don't know how you have everything configured, so I can't tell you
  how to run your infrastructure.
 
  As far as multiple entries, I'd recommend doing  srs1.yourdomain.com
  for the first box, srs2.yourdomain.com and srs3 and so forth. Unless
  they are running in a clustered configuration.
 
  Thanks,
  Erik
 
  On 1/27/07, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Forgot one thing :)
  the srs.yourdoamin MX record should point to the server hosting
 the real
  users or it can point to the MX with the lower priorities ?
  and can you set as many MX entries as you want ?
  Thx again for the help
  Cheers
  -P
 
 
  Erik Espinoza wrote:
   Hey Phil,
  
   Set SRS on the machine that has real users. If both machines
 have real
   users, set SRS up on both.
  
   Don't use the same srs_domain/srs_secret unless both machines are
   running in a clustered config.
  
   Erik
  
   On 1/27/07, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello
   I was just thinking 
   If you have lets say a couple of frontend smtp servers filtering
  emails
   before delivering (smtproute) to some other qtoaster machines
 holding
   your mailboxes.
   How would you implement SRS ? If you send an email with  machine B
   (where you have mailboxes and srs configured), you change your
  envelope
   sender address of your outgoing message and if then the email gets
   bounced but goes through another smtp (frontend),
   machine A (the filtering machine) .
   How would that work ?
  
   You should set exactly same SECRET on all machines or by having
   smtproute configured for that domain the srs check would get by
  passed ?
   or maybe point srs.YOURDOMAIN mx record to the machine used for
  sending
   ? (if you got a few ... ?)
  
   Just wondering on the good setup in that kind of situation
  
   Thx
   -P
  
  
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Re: [qmailtoaster] SRS setting for second domain

2007-01-25 Thread Erik Espinoza

You only configure srs once on your mail server.

Those settings are used for every domain.

Erik

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How do I configure SRS for my second domain?


echo srs.YOURDOMAIN  /var/qmail/control/srs_domain
echo SECRET  /var/qmail/control/srs_secrets

If I do that then it will replace the entry for my first domain.

Thanks.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] spf and domainkey settings in bind zone....newbie question probably

2007-01-24 Thread Erik Espinoza

There is always xname or granitecanyon for free dns hosting.

Erik

On 1/24/07, Vince Callaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm coming into this conversation a bit late.  My clueless ISP has had
me offline since last wed.

Having nameservers outsourced is good if you have redundant servers out
there.  If you have everything running on a single connection it does
not really matter if your dns stays up, you are already hosed.

soapbox
Personally I think ALL hosting/ISP services should provide dynamic DNS.
The idea of static addresses should be reserved for data centers only.
Using a static address for a single website or mail server is a waste of
resources.
/soapbox

I'm using xpertdns.com for my nameservice.  They charge $6.95 a year for
1 to 5 domains.  The nameservers are in two geographically separated
locations.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] question on install

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

Whoa that thing still works? I gotta redo it to include srs support
later this week.

Erik

On 1/23/07, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi guys,

I have just installed the QT VMware appliance, which was successful. I am
grateful to those who have put this out, and for putting out the toaster in
general. It is a lot of hard work, especially keeping the patches straight:)
. so thanks.

In looking at the release notes on

http://devel.qmailtoaster.com/info/QmailToaster.zip.html

I have a couple of questions, since I am not familiar with vpopmail, as
previously have used vmailmgr. I also have not used mysql..

Given this, how do I set my mysql root password? Also, how do I change the
default password to the vpopmail database ?

Thanks for your help.

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Regards,
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Re: Re[2]: [qmailtoaster] question on install

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

Sure thing.

As far as setting a mysql root password, simply type the following:

mysqladmin -u root password 'newpassword'
mysqladmin -u root -h `hostname -s` password 'newpassword'

If the second one fails, don't worry about it.

As far as the appliance, it is dated 10/1/06, but it was created much
earlier. It took a while before I submitted this to the VMware site.
Glad it worked for you. I believe the next one will work better.

Erik

On 1/23/07, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Erik,

gulp.. yah it still works :)  The VMware appliance is dated 10/1/06,
from their site.  If you redo it, can you add in a CDrom on the appliance?
Reason being, no cdrom dev is in that Centos version 4.3 final, so I cannot
mount it to install VMware tools, which means I am limited to the size of
the screen to as is, (currently very small), and it is very hard working
with files, or reading logs or directories when it is that small.

thanks

Glenn

Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 12:34:56 PM, you wrote:

 Whoa that thing still works? I gotta redo it to include srs support
 later this week.

 Erik

 On 1/23/07, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I have just installed the QT VMware appliance, which was successful. I am
 grateful to those who have put this out, and for putting out the toaster in
 general. It is a lot of hard work, especially keeping the patches straight:)
 . so thanks.

 In looking at the release notes on

 http://devel.qmailtoaster.com/info/QmailToaster.zip.html

 I have a couple of questions, since I am not familiar with vpopmail, as
 previously have used vmailmgr. I also have not used mysql..

 Given this, how do I set my mysql root password? Also, how do I change the
 default password to the vpopmail database ?

 Thanks for your help.

 --
 Regards,
 Glenn






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Re: [qmailtoaster] Auth before RBL patch

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

As time has gone by, a lot of isp's have been blocking outgoing port
25 for all but their static users. I always recommend my users set
port 587 in case they use someone elses Wireless they can still use my
Toaster for outgoing without issue. There are advantages for using the
standard.

Erik

On 1/23/07, Sergey Menshikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Eric Shubes wrote:
 Sergey Menshikov wrote:


 Hi All,

I have to accept e-mail from users in blacklisted IPs, so attached are
the simple patches for qmail-smtpd and rblsmptd to delay RBL rejection
until smtp DATA command is issued.

 * rblsmtpd with option -e, if IP is blacklisted, sets environment
 variable BLACKLISTMSG to rejection code and message and, in all
 cases, starts qmail-smtpd.
 * qmail-smptpd checks for BLACKLISTMSG at DATA command stage, and,
 if set, and not authenticated, outputs the message, aborting DATA
 command.

Fairly trivial but I believe useful patch, I wonder if it could be
included into distribution.

I tested it on and still use it on my site, using rpmbuild against

 * ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.2.src.rpm
 * qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.7.src.rpm

Thank you!

Best regards,
Sergey Menshikov


 Sergey,

The latest toaster now uses the standard smtp submission port (587), which
does not check blacklists and requires authentication. I'm not certain which
version first contained this change, but it was after 1.3.7.


 Thanks, Eric, I did not know this :)

 Though asking all my friends and family to find their SMTP port setting and
change it to 587 is harder for me than patch qmail ;)

 Best regards
 Sergey



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Re: Re[2]: [qmailtoaster] question on install

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

Yep, I have it bookmarked. Glad it worked for you. It should still
work, but it will not know what to do with libsrs2-toaster. Once the
current dev packages are moved onto the main site, it will fail to
install as the libsrs2-toaster package is now a requirement.

Erik

On 1/23/07, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Eric,

This is the actual VMware appliance URL. I just can't believe how easy this
install was for qmail and all the package goodies, including SquirrelMail,
etc. Your scripts were perfect for all this

http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/579

Glenn


Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 12:48:04 PM, you wrote:

 I'm not familiar with that installation.

 EE, can you answer his question? ;)

 Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Whoa that thing still works? I gotta redo it to include srs support
 later this week.

 Erik

 On 1/23/07, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I have just installed the QT VMware appliance, which was successful. I am
 grateful to those who have put this out, and for putting out the
 toaster in
 general. It is a lot of hard work, especially keeping the patches
 straight:)
 . so thanks.

 In looking at the release notes on

 http://devel.qmailtoaster.com/info/QmailToaster.zip.html

 I have a couple of questions, since I am not familiar with vpopmail, as
 previously have used vmailmgr. I also have not used mysql..

 Given this, how do I set my mysql root password? Also, how do I change
 the
 default password to the vpopmail database ?

 Thanks for your help.

 --
 Regards,
 Glenn







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[qmailtoaster] greylisting warning

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hey Guys,

I ran into a problem while testing a greylisting patch from Bill
Shupp's site. Many of the new antispam appliances and certain
firewalals are used as a smart host, so it looks as follows:

Exchange - antispam appliance - QmailToaster

Many of the antispam appliances are having issues with temporary 4xx
errors, they will not retry later as per the standard. I've run into
this a few times, and it's always tough to diagnose. Just thought I'd
put out a notice that if you use greylisting, you may lose valid mail
because of this.

Buyer Beware

Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Auth before RBL patch

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

Correct.

On 1/23/07, Dan Herbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So just to clarify, if I set my roaming users laptops to send through port
587 it will bypass the blacklists but will require authentication? I've been
having lots of trouble with the new zen.spamhaus.org blacklist since the
upgrade. Seems the PBL advisory list has every IP block of roadrunner on the
list which is now causing all my roaming users to have their emails kicked
back even though they authenticate.

-Original Message-
From: Erik Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:02 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Auth before RBL patch

As time has gone by, a lot of isp's have been blocking outgoing port
25 for all but their static users. I always recommend my users set
port 587 in case they use someone elses Wireless they can still use my
Toaster for outgoing without issue. There are advantages for using the
standard.

Erik

On 1/23/07, Sergey Menshikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Eric Shubes wrote:
  Sergey Menshikov wrote:


  Hi All,

 I have to accept e-mail from users in blacklisted IPs, so attached are
 the simple patches for qmail-smtpd and rblsmptd to delay RBL rejection
 until smtp DATA command is issued.

  * rblsmtpd with option -e, if IP is blacklisted, sets environment
  variable BLACKLISTMSG to rejection code and message and, in all
  cases, starts qmail-smtpd.
  * qmail-smptpd checks for BLACKLISTMSG at DATA command stage, and,
  if set, and not authenticated, outputs the message, aborting DATA
  command.

 Fairly trivial but I believe useful patch, I wonder if it could be
 included into distribution.

 I tested it on and still use it on my site, using rpmbuild against

  * ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.2.src.rpm
  * qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.7.src.rpm

 Thank you!

 Best regards,
 Sergey Menshikov


  Sergey,

 The latest toaster now uses the standard smtp submission port (587), which
 does not check blacklists and requires authentication. I'm not certain
which
 version first contained this change, but it was after 1.3.7.


  Thanks, Eric, I did not know this :)

  Though asking all my friends and family to find their SMTP port setting
and
 change it to 587 is harder for me than patch qmail ;)

  Best regards
  Sergey


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Auth before RBL patch

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

Done!

On 1/23/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

EE,
The firewall.sh script needs to be modified on the main site to allow port
587 for submission.
Just a reminder. ;)

Dan Herbon wrote:
 No I cannot telnet to port 587. ill look around. Thanks

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Shubes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:47 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Auth before RBL patch

 No, it can be used with or without SSL. Is a firewall blocking the port
 (standard toaster firewall does not), or port not being forwarded? (depends
 on your configuration)

 Can you telnet into 587?

 Dan Herbon wrote:
 I've never used this port and when I set outlook to it, it just fails. Do
 I
 have to set the server up with a SSL certificate or something?

 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:32 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Auth before RBL patch

 Correct.

 On 1/23/07, Dan Herbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So just to clarify, if I set my roaming users laptops to send through
 port
 587 it will bypass the blacklists but will require authentication? I've
 been
 having lots of trouble with the new zen.spamhaus.org blacklist since the
 upgrade. Seems the PBL advisory list has every IP block of roadrunner on
 the
 list which is now causing all my roaming users to have their emails
 kicked
 back even though they authenticate.

 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:02 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Auth before RBL patch

 As time has gone by, a lot of isp's have been blocking outgoing port
 25 for all but their static users. I always recommend my users set
 port 587 in case they use someone elses Wireless they can still use my
 Toaster for outgoing without issue. There are advantages for using the
 standard.

 Erik

 On 1/23/07, Sergey Menshikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Eric Shubes wrote:
  Sergey Menshikov wrote:


  Hi All,

 I have to accept e-mail from users in blacklisted IPs, so attached are
 the simple patches for qmail-smtpd and rblsmptd to delay RBL rejection
 until smtp DATA command is issued.

  * rblsmtpd with option -e, if IP is blacklisted, sets environment
  variable BLACKLISTMSG to rejection code and message and, in all
  cases, starts qmail-smtpd.
  * qmail-smptpd checks for BLACKLISTMSG at DATA command stage, and,
  if set, and not authenticated, outputs the message, aborting DATA
  command.

 Fairly trivial but I believe useful patch, I wonder if it could be
 included into distribution.

 I tested it on and still use it on my site, using rpmbuild against

  * ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.2.src.rpm
  * qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.7.src.rpm

 Thank you!

 Best regards,
 Sergey Menshikov


  Sergey,

 The latest toaster now uses the standard smtp submission port (587),
 which
 does not check blacklists and requires authentication. I'm not certain
 which
 version first contained this change, but it was after 1.3.7.


  Thanks, Eric, I did not know this :)

  Though asking all my friends and family to find their SMTP port setting
 and
 change it to 587 is harder for me than patch qmail ;)

  Best regards
  Sergey





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Re: [qmailtoaster] Auth before RBL patch

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

That's what she said . . .

Erik

On 1/23/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Gee you're fast! :)

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Done!

 On 1/23/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 EE,
 The firewall.sh script needs to be modified on the main site to allow
 port
 587 for submission.
 Just a reminder. ;)

 Dan Herbon wrote:
  No I cannot telnet to port 587. ill look around. Thanks
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Shubes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:47 PM
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Auth before RBL patch
 
  No, it can be used with or without SSL. Is a firewall blocking the port
  (standard toaster firewall does not), or port not being forwarded?
 (depends
  on your configuration)
 
  Can you telnet into 587?
 
  Dan Herbon wrote:
  I've never used this port and when I set outlook to it, it just
 fails. Do
  I
  have to set the server up with a SSL certificate or something?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Erik Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:32 PM
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Auth before RBL patch
 
  Correct.
 
  On 1/23/07, Dan Herbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So just to clarify, if I set my roaming users laptops to send through
  port
  587 it will bypass the blacklists but will require authentication?
 I've
  been
  having lots of trouble with the new zen.spamhaus.org blacklist
 since the
  upgrade. Seems the PBL advisory list has every IP block of
 roadrunner on
  the
  list which is now causing all my roaming users to have their emails
  kicked
  back even though they authenticate.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Erik Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:02 PM
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Auth before RBL patch
 
  As time has gone by, a lot of isp's have been blocking outgoing port
  25 for all but their static users. I always recommend my users set
  port 587 in case they use someone elses Wireless they can still
 use my
  Toaster for outgoing without issue. There are advantages for using
 the
  standard.
 
  Erik
 
  On 1/23/07, Sergey Menshikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Eric Shubes wrote:
   Sergey Menshikov wrote:
 
 
   Hi All,
 
  I have to accept e-mail from users in blacklisted IPs, so
 attached are
  the simple patches for qmail-smtpd and rblsmptd to delay RBL
 rejection
  until smtp DATA command is issued.
 
   * rblsmtpd with option -e, if IP is blacklisted, sets environment
   variable BLACKLISTMSG to rejection code and message and, in all
   cases, starts qmail-smtpd.
   * qmail-smptpd checks for BLACKLISTMSG at DATA command stage, and,
   if set, and not authenticated, outputs the message, aborting DATA
   command.
 
  Fairly trivial but I believe useful patch, I wonder if it could be
  included into distribution.
 
  I tested it on and still use it on my site, using rpmbuild against
 
   * ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.2.src.rpm
   * qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.7.src.rpm
 
  Thank you!
 
  Best regards,
  Sergey Menshikov
 
 
   Sergey,
 
  The latest toaster now uses the standard smtp submission port (587),
  which
  does not check blacklists and requires authentication. I'm not
 certain
  which
  version first contained this change, but it was after 1.3.7.
 
 
   Thanks, Eric, I did not know this :)
 
   Though asking all my friends and family to find their SMTP port
 setting
  and
  change it to 587 is harder for me than patch qmail ;)
 
   Best regards
   Sergey
 
 
 


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Re: Re[2]: [qmailtoaster] Auth before RBL patch

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

Well said. Following the standard will simply ensure that everyone
does the right thing.

Erik

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Greetings, Sergey.

23 ?? 2007 ?., 21:48:21 you have wrote:
  Thanks, Eric, I did not know this :)

  Though asking all my friends and family to find their SMTP port
 setting and change it to 587 is harder for me than patch qmail ;)

Few bits for colleague in native language:

Оно понятно, что народ будет лениться вместо 25 порта 587 прописывать
по началу. Однако это уже принятый стандарт, есть соответствующие
RFC, так что нам по любому с этим жить предстоит.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem Mysql ( vpopmail user not found)

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

What happens when you restart mysql?

On 1/23/07, Viscardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello List !
 log:
 Jan 23 16:17:52 smtp vpopmail[12061]: vchkpw-pop3: vpopmail user not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 My mysql stop and users not found !
 Help me !

 Fedora 4
 install - Sun Jan 21
 autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.2.src.rpm
clamav-toaster-0.88.7-1.3.7.src.rpm
control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.2.src.rpm
courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm
courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.src.rpm
daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.2.src.rpm
djbdns-1.05-1.0.3.src.rpm
ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2.src.rpm
isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.2.src.rpm
libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.2.src.rpm
libsrs2-toaster-1.0.18-1.3.2.src.rpm
maildrop-toaster-2.0.3-1.3.4.src.rpm
qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.3.src.rpm
qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.2.src.rpm
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.10.src.rpm
ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.2.src.rpm
simscan-toaster-1.3.1-1.3.3.src.rpm
spamassassin-toaster-3.1.7-1.3.6.src.rpm
squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.9a-1.3.5.src.rpm
ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.2.src.rpm
vpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.3.src.rpm
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Re: [qmailtoaster] perl module mail::domainkeys

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

 (IMHO) It'd be great if everything was rpm based, so CPAN wouldn't be
 necessary. I think EE might be working on that.


I don't think I have the time or energy to handle rpm's for every perl
module used by SpamAssassin for every distribution we support.

For those that can, use RPMForge, for those distros not covered you'll
have to use CPAN.

That said, if you are on CentOS4 + RPMForge you can run this command:

yum -y install autoconf automake automake17 bzip2 bzip2-devel
compat-gcc-32 compat-gcc-32-c++ curl curl-devel expect expect-devel
gcc gcc-c++ gdbm gdbm-devel gmp gmp-devel httpd httpd-devel krb5-devel
krb5-libs libidn libidn-devel libtool mysql mysql-devel mysql-server
mrtg openssh openssh-clients openssh-server openssl openssl-devel pcre
pcre-devel php-imap php-mysql redhat-rpm-config rpm-build rpm-devel
rpm-libs rpm-python sed setup stunnel which groff make diffutils
pam-devel procmail ntp perl-DBD-MySQL perl-URI perl-Digest-HMAC
perl-Net-DNS perl-Net-SSLeay perl-Net-Ident perl-Archive-Tar
perl-Net-CIDR-Lite perl-libwww-perl perl-Socket6 perl-Filter perl-DBI
perl-HTML-Tagset perl-Digest-SHA1 perl-HTML-Parser perl-Time-HiRes
perl-IO-Socket-SSL perl-IO-Zlib perl-Sys-Hostname-Long
perl-Mail-SPF-Query perl-LWP-UserAgent-Determined perl-IO-Socket-INET6
perl-Geography-Countries perl-IP-Country perl-Razor-Agent

For all dependencies on CentOS 4.x.

Thanks,
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem: Mysql stop end user not found (vpopmail)

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

What happens when you start the MySQL Server back up?

Erik

On 1/23/07, Rodrigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Help me Please !

Problem:  Mysql stop end user not found (vpopmail)


Jan 23 16:17:54 smtp vpopmail[12068]: vchkpw-pop3: vpopmail user not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Fedora 4
Mysql 4.1.20

Install - Today  January 23, 2007 2:47 PM


autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.2.src.rpm
clamav-toaster-0.88.7-1.3.7.src.rpm
control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.2.src.rpm
courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm
courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.src.rpm
daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.2.src.rpm
djbdns-1.05-1.0.3.src.rpm
ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2.src.rpm
isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.2.src.rpm
libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.2.src.rpm
libsrs2-toaster-1.0.18-1.3.2.src.rpm
maildrop-toaster-2.0.3-1.3.4.src.rpm
qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.3.src.rpm
qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.2.src.rpm
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.10.src.rpm
ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.2.src.rpm
simscan-toaster-1.3.1-1.3.3.src.rpm
spamassassin-toaster-3.1.7-1.3.6.src.rpm
squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.9a-1.3.5.src.rpm
ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.2.src.rpm
vpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.3.src.rpm
vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.2.src.rpm
zlib-1.2.3-1.0.3.src.rpm

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Mysql stop end user not found

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

What happens when you start MySQL back up?

On 1/23/07, Viscardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hello List !

Help me Please !

Problem:  Mysql stop end user not found


Jan 23 16:17:54 smtp vpopmail[12068]: vchkpw-pop3: vpopmail user not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Fedora 4

Install - Today  January 23, 2007 2:47 PM


autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.2.src.rpm
clamav-toaster-0.88.7-1.3.7.src.rpm
control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.2.src.rpm
courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm
courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.src.rpm
daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.2.src.rpm
djbdns-1.05-1.0.3.src.rpm
ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2.src.rpm
isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.2.src.rpm
libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.2.src.rpm
libsrs2-toaster-1.0.18-1.3.2.src.rpm
maildrop-toaster-2.0.3-1.3.4.src.rpm
qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.3.src.rpm
qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.2.src.rpm
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.10.src.rpm
ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.2.src.rpm
simscan-toaster-1.3.1-1.3.3.src.rpm
spamassassin-toaster-3.1.7-1.3.6.src.rpm
squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.9a-1.3.5.src.rpm
ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.2.src.rpm
vpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.3.src.rpm
vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.2.src.rpm
zlib-1.2.3-1.0.3.src.rpm


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem Mysql ( vpopmail user not found)

2007-01-23 Thread Erik Espinoza

good.

On 1/23/07, Rodrigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The server return to function normal


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Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Problem Mysql ( vpopmail user not found)


 What happens when you restart mysql?

 On 1/23/07, Viscardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello List !
  log:
  Jan 23 16:17:52 smtp vpopmail[12061]: vchkpw-pop3: vpopmail user not
 found
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  My mysql stop and users not found !
  Help me !

  Fedora 4
  install - Sun Jan 21
  autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.2.src.rpm
 clamav-toaster-0.88.7-1.3.7.src.rpm
 control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.2.src.rpm
 courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm
 courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.src.rpm
 daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.2.src.rpm
 djbdns-1.05-1.0.3.src.rpm
 ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2.src.rpm
 isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.2.src.rpm
 libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.2.src.rpm
 libsrs2-toaster-1.0.18-1.3.2.src.rpm
 maildrop-toaster-2.0.3-1.3.4.src.rpm
 qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.3.src.rpm
 qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.2.src.rpm
 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.10.src.rpm
 ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.2.src.rpm
 simscan-toaster-1.3.1-1.3.3.src.rpm
 spamassassin-toaster-3.1.7-1.3.6.src.rpm
 squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.9a-1.3.5.src.rpm
 ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.2.src.rpm
 vpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.3.src.rpm
 vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.2.src.rpm
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Error when trying to set a Domain Admin in VqAdmin. Anyone else seeing this? It is occuring on 2 new toaster installs. Thanks Ed

2007-01-22 Thread Erik Espinoza

LOL! Glad someone thought it was funny. I was wondering if anyone noticed.


Erik

On 1/22/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erik Espinoza wrote:


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*LAUGHING LOUDLY*
Erik, you're awesome :). I propose to put a requirement on all the
members of this list to send mails in png/jpg/tiff format ;-).

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Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-22 Thread Erik Espinoza

ES,

It's in the QmailToaster howto I sent you that I wanted you to peer-review

Erik

On 1/22/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Will one of you guys please post the yum conf for DAG (dag.repo?) along with
packages that should be yum'd?

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 I too use the DAG/RPMForge rpm's for perl. Makes things a lot easier.

 Erik

 On 1/22/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Vince Callaway wrote:
  While in general I would agree with you, but not in this case.  Centos
  works fine with the exception of spamassassin.  All the people that
 sent
  me the lint outputs only one showed all the modules functioning.
  Spamassassin is one of the key elements needed in the spam battle.

 That is not the critical difference to exchange the security and
 stability of RHEL-derivate with the 'bleeding-edge' Fedora testbox.
 Each distro is good for the things it had been produced for. That is why
 all of the servers I handle use RHEL3/4 or CentOS3/4, while my home
 desktop has god Fedora6 installed. To get all the modules of SA working
 on CentOS, the only thing you have to do is to use CPAN to install some
 perl extensions (bad way), or to use DAG's repos to fetch RPM with
 relevant perl modules already compiled and ready for use. Even more, it
 was newer a big challenge to write a RPM SPEC file for any CPAN module
 source and compile module yourself.

  I now have five fedora boxes running qmail-toaster, all are stable and
  spam free.
 Sorry, but I don't believe you ;-D. Such thing as 'SPAM-FREE' is only
 possible in case current email-protocols will get replaced somehow with
 more security related ones, with a guaranteed sender authentication.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] SRS documentation?

2007-01-19 Thread Erik Espinoza

My mistake, follow the documentation.

Erik

On 1/19/07, Buzzz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is only necessary if your users choose to change their account
 routing from Normal to Forward in their acct.

 Say [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwards to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I send an e-mail
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and my domain uses spf, then gmail will see an
 e-mail coming from your server from my domain. Since your server isn't
 authorized for my domain, then gmail will reject this as a spam.

 Basically if anyone forwards outside of the domain, then you should
 definitely setup srs. It takes 2 seconds (add 1 mx record and 1 line
 into /var/qmail/control/srs_domain). In general I'd recommend everyone
 do srs and spf whenever possible.


Please let me understand how SRS should be configured from qmt view .

The official documentation of SRS patch says:

Configure your SRS domain.
echo srs.YOURDOMAIN  /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
echo srs.YOURDOMAIN:srs  /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
echo | /var/qmail/bin/srsfilter  /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-srs-default

but you say:

 takes 2 seconds (add 1 mx record and 1 line
 into /var/qmail/control/srs_domain). In general I'd recommend everyone
 do srs and spf whenever possible.


So ... i'm a little bit confused ... Could you please provide an
official documentation which guide in the process of configuring SRC for
qmail toaster ?


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Re: [qmailtoaster] SRS documentation?

2007-01-19 Thread Erik Espinoza

srs.thephams.org.IN MX 10mail.thephams.org.

Erik

On 1/19/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What should the new MX record for BIND look like?

 My mistake, follow the documentation.

 Erik

 On 1/19/07, Buzzz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It is only necessary if your users choose to change their account
  routing from Normal to Forward in their acct.
 
  Say [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwards to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I send an e-mail
  to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and my domain uses spf, then gmail will see an
  e-mail coming from your server from my domain. Since your server isn't
  authorized for my domain, then gmail will reject this as a spam.
 
  Basically if anyone forwards outside of the domain, then you should
  definitely setup srs. It takes 2 seconds (add 1 mx record and 1 line
  into /var/qmail/control/srs_domain). In general I'd recommend everyone
  do srs and spf whenever possible.
 

 Please let me understand how SRS should be configured from qmt view .

 The official documentation of SRS patch says:

 Configure your SRS domain.
 echo srs.YOURDOMAIN  /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
 echo srs.YOURDOMAIN:srs  /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
 echo | /var/qmail/bin/srsfilter  /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-srs-default

 but you say:

  takes 2 seconds (add 1 mx record and 1 line
  into /var/qmail/control/srs_domain). In general I'd recommend everyone
  do srs and spf whenever possible.


 So ... i'm a little bit confused ... Could you please provide an
 official documentation which guide in the process of configuring SRC
 for
 qmail toaster ?


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Re: [qmailtoaster] SRS documentation?

2007-01-19 Thread Erik Espinoza

looks like your domain is hosted by yahoo dns. You should be doing
your records on that.

On 1/19/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Can you give me a sample entry for the new MX record using BIND? I am
still new with it.

 My mistake, follow the documentation.

 Erik

 On 1/19/07, Buzzz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It is only necessary if your users choose to change their account
  routing from Normal to Forward in their acct.
 
  Say [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwards to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I send an e-mail
  to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and my domain uses spf, then gmail will see an
  e-mail coming from your server from my domain. Since your server isn't
  authorized for my domain, then gmail will reject this as a spam.
 
  Basically if anyone forwards outside of the domain, then you should
  definitely setup srs. It takes 2 seconds (add 1 mx record and 1 line
  into /var/qmail/control/srs_domain). In general I'd recommend everyone
  do srs and spf whenever possible.
 

 Please let me understand how SRS should be configured from qmt view .

 The official documentation of SRS patch says:

 Configure your SRS domain.
 echo srs.YOURDOMAIN  /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
 echo srs.YOURDOMAIN:srs  /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
 echo | /var/qmail/bin/srsfilter  /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-srs-default

 but you say:

  takes 2 seconds (add 1 mx record and 1 line
  into /var/qmail/control/srs_domain). In general I'd recommend everyone
  do srs and spf whenever possible.


 So ... i'm a little bit confused ... Could you please provide an
 official documentation which guide in the process of configuring SRC
 for
 qmail toaster ?


 thx




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Re: [qmailtoaster] reason: 554 : Relay access denied / Returned mail: see transcript for details

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

Set up MX records.



On 1/17/07, Harry Zink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


At this point, this problem is really paralizing, so I implore anyone for
some help and assistance.

Okay, this is a repeat, and a renewed effort to try to get to the bottom of
this - I am starting to believe that there is something screwed up on my
qmail toaster, as this odd behavior seems to have started around the same
time I performed the last update - but that's speculation.

Anyway, here's the scenario:

QmailToaster installed on a Centos 4.4 box (frequently updated via yum)

Pre-existing accounts work just fine.

When creating a new domain (either via vqadmin, or vadddomain), and
subsequently setting up new accounts using qmailadmin, the error below
happens every single time when someone tries to send mail *TO* those
accounts.

Anyone else on the same server can send and receive mail from those
accounts.

Someone from an outside server, say Yahoo, dot-mac, or gmail, for example,
will get the error message below back, claiming inability to deliver.

Other domains and accounts on that same server, that existed previously,
work just fine. Only new domains and accounts act that way.

Essentially, it acts as if someone tried to relay through it, but in fact,
how would that pop up if one is just sending mail, simply, from an outside
account?

Only additional piece of that puzzle might be that this is a separate mail
server box, from the domain's web-server, and DNS server. Within the DNS
record, it simply points properly to the IP of the web-server, and the one
from the mail server - just as the others are doing. Is there something in
DNS I should be checking out?

Anyway, from Yahoo.com sent mail gets the error message below:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
216.193.231.146 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access
denied
Giving up on 216.193.231.146.

All other accounts get the error message as follows:


Begin forwarded message:

From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: January 17, 2007 11:30:23 PM PST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details


The original message was received at Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:30:23 -0800 (PST)
from smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access denied)

   - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to realasia-services.com.:

DATA
 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access denied
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
 554 Error: no valid recipients
Reporting-MTA: dns; smtpout.mac.com
Received-From-MTA: DNS; smtpin05-en2
Arrival-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:30:23 -0800 (PST)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: DNS; realasia-services.com
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Relay access
denied
Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:30:23 -0800 (PST)

From: Harry Zink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: January 17, 2007 11:30:20 PM PST
To: Dr. Harald K. Zink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: new test (from mac.com)










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Re: [qmailtoaster] Update Simscan Error Package.

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

Since you are using the devel clamav, try using the devel simscan
package. It has a fix for this exact problem.

Erik

On 1/14/07, Wiliarto Prio Utomo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I tried to update simscan-toaster package. But, when rebuild package of
simscan-toaster-1.2-1.3.1.src.rpm had error :

configure: error: Unable to find your clamav databases,
specify --enable-clamavdb-path.
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.34058 (%build)


RPM build errors:
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.34058 (%build)

My old simscan : simscan-toaster-1.1-1.2.6
I Think, this packages conflict with Clamav packages.
clamav-toaster-0.90rc2-1.3.8.

So, How can I update simscan packages..?



Warm Regards
Tommy


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Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

rpm -e --nodeps courier-authlib-toaster
yum install libtool-ltdl-devel libtool-ltdl
rpm -Uhv courier-authlib-toaster-NEW.rpm

On 1/18/07, Dan Herbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The log now states:

-
Installing courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4 in the sandbox ...
error: Failed dependencies:
libltdl.so.3 is needed by courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.i686
-

I then attempt to 'yum install libtool-ltdl.i386' which contains
libltdl.so.3 and then I get:

-
--- Package libtool-ltdl.i386 0:1.5.22-2.3 set to be updated
-- Running transaction check
-- Processing Conflict: courier-authlib-toaster conflicts libtool-ltdl
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: courier-authlib-toaster conflicts with libtool-ltdl
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From: Eric Shubes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:15 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel upgrade errors

Dan Herbon wrote:
 -

 libsrs2-toaster-1.0.18-1.3.2 is already installed in sandbox, not built

 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.10 is already installed in sandbox, not built

 Building courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4 ...

 error: unpacking of archive failed on file
 /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/courier-authlib-0.59.tar.bz2;45af8f5d: cpio: read

 error:
 /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm
 cannot be installed

 Installing
 /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm

 -



 I am running Fedora Core 5. All patches, etc. Anyone have any idea what
 could be causing this to fail?



 Thanks.



 Dan

Out of disk space? (just a guess)

# df

Corrupted download?

# md5sum courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm
51d46db59287bce41d49a4de0246c370  courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm

# md5sum courier-authlib-0.59.tar.bz2
dbfc58a17149fd0f8c0983662ecc8ba8  courier-authlib-0.59.tar.bz2

If you can't free up enough disk space, (re)building a linked sandbox might
help (depending on how your toaster's partitioned).

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Yahoo bulk folder and domainkeys

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

Put your IP in this: http://www.robtex.com/rbls.html

See if you are on any of the RBL's. Perhaps Yahoo's scoring you very
low because you're on a list.

Erik

On 1/18/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have setup my domain key correctly.
But yahoo still puts my mail in the Bulk Folder even though they confirmed
my domainkey setting.

Yahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by .com.

I have static IP business line BTW.

If they have confirmed my domain, why do they still put it in the Bulk
Folder?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Yahoo bulk folder and domainkeys

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

Find a way to contact Yahoo!. The problem is on their side.

For hotmail, you can go to support.msn.com and report mislabeled spam.
I'd imagine Yahoo has something similar.

You can also try going here: http://www.robtex.com/rbls.html and
seeing if you are listed on any of the rbl's that they may use.

Erik

On 1/18/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have setup my domain key correctly.
But yahoo still puts my mail in the Bulk Folder even though they confirmed
my domainkey setting.

Yahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by .com.

I have static IP business line BTW.

If they have confirmed my domain, why do they still put it in the Bulk
Folder?

Thanks.





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Re: [qmailtoaster] Where the heck is my mail going?

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

Ensure that you don't have the same entry in locals and virtualdomains.

Erik

On 1/18/07, James Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'ts not in there.  Believe me I looked.  The mail that has vanished is
just gone, no delivery information in the SEND log *UNLESS* I got it, if
I got it, all the info is in the send log.

James



On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 22:46 +0100, Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
 Hi James,

 Anything about the delivery in the send log?
 /var/log/qmail/send/current

 It should at least tell you to what account it went.

 JP
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 From: James Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:33 PM
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Where the heck is my mail going?


  I'm a new list member, and usually, when I start on a list, I like to
  spend a few days/weeks getting the feel of the place before I start
  talking, but this time I don't have a choice, I'm in a bit of a bind and
  need some serious help.
 
  First of all, while I have a fair amount of unix / pc experience, I am
  somewhat new to email in general and qmail in particular.
 
  I have just set up a qmail box for my school to replace an aging exim
  server.  We *THOUGHT* everything was working and had scheduled the
  rollout for tonight when we realized that only some of the e-mail from
  the outside world is getting in.
 
  According to the smtp logs, everything is being delivered to the box,
  but a fair amount of it is never actually delivered (per the send log).
 
  A bit of information in no partcular order:
 
  I don't think it is a virus/spam check that is stopping the mail, on the
  off chance it was, I disabled both virus and spam checking in simscan
  and the problem did not go away. Then just to be thurough, I turned off
  both the clamd and spamd daemons.  We have an e-mail filtering appliance
  out in front of this box anyway, so I don't need any of that.
 
  I am using the centos version of qmail-toaster from qmailtoaster.com, I
  started with the VM build from:
 
  http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/579
 
  This has qmail, vqadmin-2.3.4, qmailadmin-1.2.9, qmailmrtg7-42, and
  isolog-2.1
 
  I checked my queue with the:
 
  qmailctl queue
 
  command.  It says that there is one mail message in the queue pending
  delviery, so that's not the issue. After a minute or two, it showed
  empty.
 
  The results of the qmailctl stat command are:
 
  authlib: up (pid 2060) 144335 seconds
  clamd: up (pid 2055) 144335 seconds
  imap4: up (pid 2064) 144335 seconds
  imap4-ssl: up (pid 2071) 144335 seconds
  pop3: up (pid 2067) 144335 seconds
  pop3-ssl: up (pid 2063) 144335 seconds
  send: up (pid 26399) 54483 seconds
  smtp: up (pid 26405) 54483 seconds
  spamd: up (pid 2062) 144335 seconds
  authlib/log: up (pid 2057) 144335 seconds
  clamd/log: up (pid 2054) 144335 seconds
  imap4/log: up (pid 2087) 144335 seconds
  imap4-ssl/log: up (pid 2069) 144335 seconds
  pop3/log: up (pid 2058) 144335 seconds
  pop3-ssl/log: up (pid 2059) 144335 seconds
  send/log: up (pid 2056) 144335 seconds
  smtp/log: up (pid 2070) 144335 seconds
  spamd/log: up (pid 2061) 144335 seconds
 
  I'm not sure how to list what patches have been applied, if someone can
  give me some idea how to provide this I will.
 
  I have a test account on the box.  Some mail gets to me and some does
  not.  I can't figure a rhyme or reason for it, and the mail that does
  NOT get there shows up in the smtp logs as getting to the box, but then
  just vanishes.
 
  Any ideas PLEASE!! This box was supposed to go live for use yesterday
  and I'm at my wits end.
 
  Thanks,
 
  James
 
 
  PS, if you need any more info, just ask, I'll get it to you.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Yahoo bulk folder and domainkeys

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

You can't change reverse dns. Only SBC can do that.

That said, I don't know why Yahoo thinks your e-mail is spam, only
Yahoo can answer that. If you have DomainKeys configured and are not
on any rbl, I can't think of a reason why they would do that.

Aside from getting you to pay for a mailhop service such as one
offered by DynDNS, I don't know what else you can try on your end. Try
sending an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It'll probably take  awhile
to get a response.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/18/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nope, not on any blacklist.

Maybe because of reverse DNS?

I still can not figure out how to setup reverse DNS using BIND. Plus I
don't think it will be possible to do so anyway since I am using SBC DSL.

 Find a way to contact Yahoo!. The problem is on their side.

 For hotmail, you can go to support.msn.com and report mislabeled spam.
 I'd imagine Yahoo has something similar.

 You can also try going here: http://www.robtex.com/rbls.html and
 seeing if you are listed on any of the rbl's that they may use.

 Erik

 On 1/18/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have setup my domain key correctly.
 But yahoo still puts my mail in the Bulk Folder even though they
 confirmed
 my domainkey setting.

 Yahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by
 .com.

 I have static IP business line BTW.

 If they have confirmed my domain, why do they still put it in the Bulk
 Folder?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] *.pem security issue

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

I'll answer this one with a not sure. I don't remember this question
being asked. Since all of my toasters have no users on them, I never
really thought about it.

Maybe Nick will have some insight, as I have no clue.

Erik

On 1/18/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

EE (or anyone),

Any word about this? Seems to me that servercert.pem shouldn't be world
readable since it contains the private (signing) key and all parent
directories are world readable. (I seem to remember EE answering this, but
can't find nor remember the answer)

Also, I came across this at http://qmail.jms1.net/scripts/qfixpermissions:

# some broken install guides (i.e. qmailrocks) tell you to create
# servercert.pem and clientcert.pem as a single file, with one as a symbolic
# link to the other. this is wrong, since qmail-smtpd and qmail-remote (the
# two programs which need to read these files) run as different userids and
# different group ids. the only way that a symbolic link scenario will work
# is if the file is readable to every userid on the system- and this is a
# major security hole, since the file contains the secret key for encrypting
# your SMTP sessions, both incoming and outgoing.

How is the toaster handling this? I can't figure out how/why the toaster
seems to work with clientcert.pem symlinked.

Eric Shubes wrote:
 I just configured SSL on my server, and noticed what I think is a bit of a
 security risk.

 All of the *.pem files are readable by any account, e.g.:
 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root qmail   14 Sep 10 10:08 clientcert.pem - servercert.pem
 -rw-r--r--  1 root qmail 1693 Jun 21 08:21 servercert.pem

 Isn't this a bad idea, given that this file in particular contains a private
 key?

 To fix it, I did:
 # cd /var/qmail/control
 # chgrp vchkpw *.pem
 # chmod  o-r *.pem
 # rm -f clientcert.pem
 # cp -p servercert.pem clientcert.pem
 # chgrp qmail clientcert.pem

 Is this a non issue, or should it be changed in the basic toaster?


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Re: [qmailtoaster] *.pem security issue

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

Agreed, it's why I asked for Nick's input.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/18/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 I'll answer this one with a not sure. I don't remember this question
 being asked. Since all of my toasters have no users on them, I never
 really thought about it.

I don't have any users either (as I imagine is the case with most toasters),
so it's not a gaping hole. I just like seeing holes (however little) plugged up.

 Maybe Nick will have some insight, as I have no clue.

 Erik

 On 1/18/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 EE (or anyone),

 Any word about this? Seems to me that servercert.pem shouldn't be world
 readable since it contains the private (signing) key and all parent
 directories are world readable. (I seem to remember EE answering this,
 but
 can't find nor remember the answer)

 Also, I came across this at
 http://qmail.jms1.net/scripts/qfixpermissions:

 # some broken install guides (i.e. qmailrocks) tell you to create
 # servercert.pem and clientcert.pem as a single file, with one as a
 symbolic
 # link to the other. this is wrong, since qmail-smtpd and qmail-remote
 (the
 # two programs which need to read these files) run as different
 userids and
 # different group ids. the only way that a symbolic link scenario will
 work
 # is if the file is readable to every userid on the system- and this is a
 # major security hole, since the file contains the secret key for
 encrypting
 # your SMTP sessions, both incoming and outgoing.

 How is the toaster handling this? I can't figure out how/why the toaster
 seems to work with clientcert.pem symlinked.

 Eric Shubes wrote:
  I just configured SSL on my server, and noticed what I think is a
 bit of a
  security risk.
 
  All of the *.pem files are readable by any account, e.g.:
  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root qmail   14 Sep 10 10:08 clientcert.pem -
 servercert.pem
  -rw-r--r--  1 root qmail 1693 Jun 21 08:21 servercert.pem
 
  Isn't this a bad idea, given that this file in particular contains a
 private
  key?
 
  To fix it, I did:
  # cd /var/qmail/control
  # chgrp vchkpw *.pem
  # chmod  o-r *.pem
  # rm -f clientcert.pem
  # cp -p servercert.pem clientcert.pem
  # chgrp qmail clientcert.pem
 
  Is this a non issue, or should it be changed in the basic toaster?



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Where the heck is my mail going?

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

SPF would be a really good guess since everything would appear to
arrive from the scanning appliance. The other good guess would be
DomainKeys. Check the log in the appliance for error 4xx/5xx
rejections from your server.

Erik


On 1/18/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm guessing that SPF's rejecting them. The newer toaster gives you a
meaningful message, but the version you have simply quits and looks normal
on the log.

Change /var/qmail/control/spfbehavior from 3 to 1.
I'm not sure if restarting is necessary, but stop then start qmail to be safe.

Report back.

James Jarrett wrote:
 This:

 ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.1
 qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.3.6
 control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.1
 qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.1
 vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.2
 ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.1
 vpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.2
 courier-authlib-toaster-0.58-1.3.1
 ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.1
 maildrop-toaster-2.0.2-1.3.1
 squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.8-1.3.3
 simscan-toaster-1.2-1.3.1
 libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.1
 courier-imap-toaster-4.1.1-1.3.2
 ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.1
 maildrop-toaster-devel-2.0.2-1.3.1
 spamassassin-toaster-3.1.5-1.3.3
 daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.1
 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.6
 autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.1
 qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.1
 isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.1
 clamav-toaster-0.88.4-1.3.3


 On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 14:58 -0700, Eric Shubes wrote:
 What does
 # rpm -qa | grep toaster
 show you?

 James Jarrett wrote:
 I'ts not in there.  Believe me I looked.  The mail that has vanished is
 just gone, no delivery information in the SEND log *UNLESS* I got it, if
 I got it, all the info is in the send log.

 James



 On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 22:46 +0100, Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
 Hi James,

 Anything about the delivery in the send log?
 /var/log/qmail/send/current

 It should at least tell you to what account it went.

 JP
 - Original Message -
 From: James Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:33 PM
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Where the heck is my mail going?


 I'm a new list member, and usually, when I start on a list, I like to
 spend a few days/weeks getting the feel of the place before I start
 talking, but this time I don't have a choice, I'm in a bit of a bind and
 need some serious help.

 First of all, while I have a fair amount of unix / pc experience, I am
 somewhat new to email in general and qmail in particular.

 I have just set up a qmail box for my school to replace an aging exim
 server.  We *THOUGHT* everything was working and had scheduled the
 rollout for tonight when we realized that only some of the e-mail from
 the outside world is getting in.

 According to the smtp logs, everything is being delivered to the box,
 but a fair amount of it is never actually delivered (per the send log).

 A bit of information in no partcular order:

 I don't think it is a virus/spam check that is stopping the mail, on the
 off chance it was, I disabled both virus and spam checking in simscan
 and the problem did not go away. Then just to be thurough, I turned off
 both the clamd and spamd daemons.  We have an e-mail filtering appliance
 out in front of this box anyway, so I don't need any of that.

 I am using the centos version of qmail-toaster from qmailtoaster.com, I
 started with the VM build from:

 http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/579

 This has qmail, vqadmin-2.3.4, qmailadmin-1.2.9, qmailmrtg7-42, and
 isolog-2.1

 I checked my queue with the:

 qmailctl queue

 command.  It says that there is one mail message in the queue pending
 delviery, so that's not the issue. After a minute or two, it showed
 empty.

 The results of the qmailctl stat command are:

 authlib: up (pid 2060) 144335 seconds
 clamd: up (pid 2055) 144335 seconds
 imap4: up (pid 2064) 144335 seconds
 imap4-ssl: up (pid 2071) 144335 seconds
 pop3: up (pid 2067) 144335 seconds
 pop3-ssl: up (pid 2063) 144335 seconds
 send: up (pid 26399) 54483 seconds
 smtp: up (pid 26405) 54483 seconds
 spamd: up (pid 2062) 144335 seconds
 authlib/log: up (pid 2057) 144335 seconds
 clamd/log: up (pid 2054) 144335 seconds
 imap4/log: up (pid 2087) 144335 seconds
 imap4-ssl/log: up (pid 2069) 144335 seconds
 pop3/log: up (pid 2058) 144335 seconds
 pop3-ssl/log: up (pid 2059) 144335 seconds
 send/log: up (pid 2056) 144335 seconds
 smtp/log: up (pid 2070) 144335 seconds
 spamd/log: up (pid 2061) 144335 seconds

 I'm not sure how to list what patches have been applied, if someone can
 give me some idea how to provide this I will.

 I have a test account on the box.  Some mail gets to me and some does
 not.  I can't figure a rhyme or reason for it, and the mail that does
 NOT get there shows up in the smtp logs as getting to the box, but then
 just vanishes.

 Any ideas PLEASE!! This box was supposed to go live for use yesterday
 and I'm at my wits end.

 Thanks,

 James


 PS, if you need any more info, just ask, I'll get it to you.

 JJ




Re: [qmailtoaster] Where the heck is my mail going?

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

To disable DK, go to /var/qmail/bin and type
rm -f qmail-queue  ln -s qmail-queue.orig qmail-queue

Erik

On 1/18/07, Erik Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

SPF would be a really good guess since everything would appear to
arrive from the scanning appliance. The other good guess would be
DomainKeys. Check the log in the appliance for error 4xx/5xx
rejections from your server.

Erik


On 1/18/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm guessing that SPF's rejecting them. The newer toaster gives you a
 meaningful message, but the version you have simply quits and looks normal
 on the log.

 Change /var/qmail/control/spfbehavior from 3 to 1.
 I'm not sure if restarting is necessary, but stop then start qmail to be safe.

 Report back.

 James Jarrett wrote:
  This:
 
  ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.1
  qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.3.6
  control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.1
  qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.1
  vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.2
  ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.1
  vpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.2
  courier-authlib-toaster-0.58-1.3.1
  ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.1
  maildrop-toaster-2.0.2-1.3.1
  squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.8-1.3.3
  simscan-toaster-1.2-1.3.1
  libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.1
  courier-imap-toaster-4.1.1-1.3.2
  ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.1
  maildrop-toaster-devel-2.0.2-1.3.1
  spamassassin-toaster-3.1.5-1.3.3
  daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.1
  qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.6
  autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.1
  qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.1
  isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.1
  clamav-toaster-0.88.4-1.3.3
 
 
  On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 14:58 -0700, Eric Shubes wrote:
  What does
  # rpm -qa | grep toaster
  show you?
 
  James Jarrett wrote:
  I'ts not in there.  Believe me I looked.  The mail that has vanished is
  just gone, no delivery information in the SEND log *UNLESS* I got it, if
  I got it, all the info is in the send log.
 
  James
 
 
 
  On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 22:46 +0100, Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
  Hi James,
 
  Anything about the delivery in the send log?
  /var/log/qmail/send/current
 
  It should at least tell you to what account it went.
 
  JP
  - Original Message -
  From: James Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:33 PM
  Subject: [qmailtoaster] Where the heck is my mail going?
 
 
  I'm a new list member, and usually, when I start on a list, I like to
  spend a few days/weeks getting the feel of the place before I start
  talking, but this time I don't have a choice, I'm in a bit of a bind and
  need some serious help.
 
  First of all, while I have a fair amount of unix / pc experience, I am
  somewhat new to email in general and qmail in particular.
 
  I have just set up a qmail box for my school to replace an aging exim
  server.  We *THOUGHT* everything was working and had scheduled the
  rollout for tonight when we realized that only some of the e-mail from
  the outside world is getting in.
 
  According to the smtp logs, everything is being delivered to the box,
  but a fair amount of it is never actually delivered (per the send log).
 
  A bit of information in no partcular order:
 
  I don't think it is a virus/spam check that is stopping the mail, on the
  off chance it was, I disabled both virus and spam checking in simscan
  and the problem did not go away. Then just to be thurough, I turned off
  both the clamd and spamd daemons.  We have an e-mail filtering appliance
  out in front of this box anyway, so I don't need any of that.
 
  I am using the centos version of qmail-toaster from qmailtoaster.com, I
  started with the VM build from:
 
  http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/579
 
  This has qmail, vqadmin-2.3.4, qmailadmin-1.2.9, qmailmrtg7-42, and
  isolog-2.1
 
  I checked my queue with the:
 
  qmailctl queue
 
  command.  It says that there is one mail message in the queue pending
  delviery, so that's not the issue. After a minute or two, it showed
  empty.
 
  The results of the qmailctl stat command are:
 
  authlib: up (pid 2060) 144335 seconds
  clamd: up (pid 2055) 144335 seconds
  imap4: up (pid 2064) 144335 seconds
  imap4-ssl: up (pid 2071) 144335 seconds
  pop3: up (pid 2067) 144335 seconds
  pop3-ssl: up (pid 2063) 144335 seconds
  send: up (pid 26399) 54483 seconds
  smtp: up (pid 26405) 54483 seconds
  spamd: up (pid 2062) 144335 seconds
  authlib/log: up (pid 2057) 144335 seconds
  clamd/log: up (pid 2054) 144335 seconds
  imap4/log: up (pid 2087) 144335 seconds
  imap4-ssl/log: up (pid 2069) 144335 seconds
  pop3/log: up (pid 2058) 144335 seconds
  pop3-ssl/log: up (pid 2059) 144335 seconds
  send/log: up (pid 2056) 144335 seconds
  smtp/log: up (pid 2070) 144335 seconds
  spamd/log: up (pid 2061) 144335 seconds
 
  I'm not sure how to list what patches have been applied, if someone can
  give me some idea how to provide this I will.
 
  I have a test account on the box.  Some mail gets to me and some does
  not.  I can't figure a rhyme or reason

Re: [qmailtoaster] Yahoo bulk folder and domainkeys

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

At the command line type:
yum -y install jwhois  whois $IP replace $IP with your machines IP address.

It will tell you who is responsible for reverse DNS of your ip addresses.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/18/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am the authoritative DNS server for my domain. This is how I am able to
setup SPF and Domainkey.

But still no luck with reverse DNS.

Is there anyone who is able to setup reverse DNS having SBC as their ISP?

Thanks.

 I suppose that's a possibility. Have you verified that your reverse DNS is
 not set up right? (http://www.dnstools.com)

 Where/who is the authoritative DNS server for your domain? Are you doing
 this or is SBC supposed to be handling that?

 Trung Pham wrote:
 Nope, not on any blacklist.

 Maybe because of reverse DNS?

 I still can not figure out how to setup reverse DNS using BIND. Plus I
 don't think it will be possible to do so anyway since I am using SBC
 DSL.

 Find a way to contact Yahoo!. The problem is on their side.

 For hotmail, you can go to support.msn.com and report mislabeled spam.
 I'd imagine Yahoo has something similar.

 You can also try going here: http://www.robtex.com/rbls.html and
 seeing if you are listed on any of the rbl's that they may use.

 Erik

 On 1/18/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have setup my domain key correctly.
 But yahoo still puts my mail in the Bulk Folder even though they
 confirmed
 my domainkey setting.

 Yahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by
 .com.

 I have static IP business line BTW.

 If they have confirmed my domain, why do they still put it in the Bulk
 Folder?

 Thanks.




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Re: [qmailtoaster] SRS documentation?

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

/var/qmail/doc/README.srs or http://opensource.mco2.net/qmail/srs/

I will update the main site.

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I follow this link on the main page for SRS documentation but it's a
deadlink.
http://devel.qmailtoaster.com/info/srs-readme.txt





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Re: [qmailtoaster] SRS documentation?

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Espinoza

It is only necessary if your users choose to change their account
routing from Normal to Forward in their acct.

Say [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwards to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I send an e-mail
to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and my domain uses spf, then gmail will see an
e-mail coming from your server from my domain. Since your server isn't
authorized for my domain, then gmail will reject this as a spam.

Basically if anyone forwards outside of the domain, then you should
definitely setup srs. It takes 2 seconds (add 1 mx record and 1 line
into /var/qmail/control/srs_domain). In general I'd recommend everyone
do srs and spf whenever possible.

Thanks,
Erik

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Sorry for this silly question.

Is SRS even need if I don't plan to let anyone use my server to forward
their emails? In another word, this qmail server will only be used by my
domain.

 /var/qmail/doc/README.srs or http://opensource.mco2.net/qmail/srs/

 I will update the main site.

 On 1/18/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I follow this link on the main page for SRS documentation but it's a
 deadlink.
 http://devel.qmailtoaster.com/info/srs-readme.txt





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Re: [qmailtoaster] smtproutes and domainkeys, spf, srs

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza

SRS and SPF can be used if your upstream isp publishes spf records.
You can use the include statement (more info at openspf.org) to
include their spf entries into your spf records. SBC, however, doesn't
publish SPF records as Yahoo handles their infrastructure.

The Qmail DomainKey implementation is to spec, but doesn't implement
the optional h= header that limits the scope of the DomainKey
signature to certain parts. Because of this, DomainKeys will fail if
it is forwarded through a third party server.

Erik

On 1/16/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I currently have all my outgoing emails forwarded to my ISP server using
smtproutes. So I am curious if I can still use domainkeys, spf, or srs
features since my ISP will definitely modify the email header.

FYI, I am using SBC Business DSL. I had to resolve to smtproutes otherwise
Yahoo will put emails coming from me into the bulk folder.

Please let me know if those features still work if I use my ISP to relay
my mails.

My goal is to stop incoming spams that forge my own address.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza

Might want to check out the wiki. There are a ton of scripts that you
can use to keep the QT up to date.

ES and JV have done some great work on keeping the QmailToaster up to
date. Due to licensing restrictions, we aren't allowed to give out
binary updates, so no yum.

The wiki has an faq entry on this.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/16/07, Dave Q.T. Newbiw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Erik,

Thanks for the reply...   What size VM, memory-wise, does QM Toaster need?
Is 96MB enough?

In anticipation of the fact the that over the next few years _some_
bug/security issues will be found, how exactly does the auto update process
work? Is everything updated, or just the base CentOS files?

Thank you,
David



Erik Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Dave

 Can QM Toaster be used to turn a default CentOS install into a very basic
 POP3/IMAP/SMTP email server?

It's a lot more than basic, as it comes with antivirus, antispam,
domainkeys, spf and srs. I'd call it thorough rather than basic.

 Our current ISP where we host ~15 domains and ~25+ email accounts has a
 mandatory incoming auto-discard spam filter that is far too strict to
 continue using.

That sucks.

 Unfortunately, switching ISPs is not an option right now.

Good luck!

 I am looking at signing up for a basic low-memory CentOS Virtual
Dedicated
 Server to handle our own incoming ( outgoing) mail.

I wouldn't go too low on the memory unless you don't want antivirus
and antispam.

 There will not be a full-time IT person to maintain the server, so
 simplicity is a must.

The QmailToaster is very simple. This is a no brainer.

 I am perfectly fine with leaving out server-side spam filtering, though I
 suspect that some basic blacklist usage would be a good idea.

I'd recommend against leaving out the spam filtering, as blacklists
are usually too encompassing.

 Most specifically, I don't want to add the performance overhead, security
 liability, and maintenance requirements of a typical default server.
 (Apache, MySQL, Bind, etc.)

In reality, the only thing that requires maintenance is the antispam,
antivirus and webmail.The project keeps those all up to date. The rest
is, for the most part, already a couple of years old and battle tested
on the internet. Known to be secure.

 Basically, I want an ultra-basic server that I can set for automatic
updates
 and let it continue running hands-off until CentOS 4 is no longer
 supported with security patches.

Sounds like the plan. It's how I run mine.

 Will Qmail Toaster do what I need?

Yes. It's not basic, but it is simple. And there is plenty of support
here, on the wiki and on the main site.

Thanks,
Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] compile errors

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza

yum install libtool-ltdl libtool-ltdl-devel

Try again.

Erik

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Hello



1)I have been trying to install Toaster on Fedora Core 5! I have been
getting the error below during installation! can any one point me in the
right direction??



2) There was a post earlier on the list on problems experienced while
installing toaster on CentOS server install, was this erectified?? ie can I
move my installation to CentOS?? I have just had enough with Fedora Core



Errors below;



Installing courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.src.rpm

error: Failed build dependencies

  /usr/include/ltdl.h is needed by
courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4.i386

error: File not found by glob:

/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-authlib-toaster*.rpm



Installing courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.src.rpm

error: Failed build dependencies

  courier-authlib-toaster is needed by
courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6.i386



error: File not found by glob:

/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/courier-imap-toaster*.rpm





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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Accepting mail from local mail servers

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza

You can disable sender checking by adding the nat public IP to
tcp.smtp with the RELAYCLIENT option

On 1/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I am not sure what the problem is and how to resolve it. I am hosting my
company qmailtoaster server in the datacenter on an external ip, I also
have some development machines inside the company behind the nat on
internal ips.

When an internal application sends email out to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using
sendmail on localhost, I am not getting that email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am pretty sure qmail rejects these emails because they come from a
mailserver behind nat which doesnt resolve to anything.

What do I need to configure on qmailtoaster so I can allow my development
machines to send me email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a setting where I
can just specify my company external ip to allow all the mail from my
internal subnet without being rejected?

Thank you


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Accepting mail from local mail servers

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza

ES,

Only udp and icmp connections can be spoofed. The tcp handshake makes
spoofing tcp impossible.

The only way for such an attach to be feasible would be to hack a few
different routers in between their link. At that point, they got
bigger problems than an open relya.

Erik

On 1/17/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What JP says would certainly help.

Given what you *have* said though, and making a few presumptions, I might
have a fix for you. Since your internal machines are being nat'd, I'm
thinking that the smtp sessions for these will appear to the toaster to be
coming from the external address of the natting device.

Simply add that address (the external address of your natting device) to
/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp file like so:
external.address.of.nat:allow,RELAYCLIENT=
Regenerate your cdb file:
# qmailctl cdb
and you should be good to go.

Note, this solution is a tad bit insecure. If someone were able to spoof
this address (while unlikely it *is* possible), they could use your toaster
as an open relay. Not much of an issue if it's a private address, somewhat
more so if it's public. The best solution, while not as easy but more
secure, would be to configure the sendmail clients to authenticate themselves.

Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
 Hi,

 Any messages in the logfiles (on both qmailtoaster server and
 development machines)
 What do you get when you telnet from the development machine to the
 qmailtoaster on port 25 and type something like
 helo
 mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 data
 subject: test
 test
 .

 Simply said, more info is needed to solve this for you.

 Regards,

 JP

 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:29 PM
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Accepting mail from local mail servers


 Hi,

 I am not sure what the problem is and how to resolve it. I am hosting my
 company qmailtoaster server in the datacenter on an external ip, I also
 have some development machines inside the company behind the nat on
 internal ips.

 When an internal application sends email out to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using
 sendmail on localhost, I am not getting that email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I am pretty sure qmail rejects these emails because they come from a
 mailserver behind nat which doesnt resolve to anything.

 What do I need to configure on qmailtoaster so I can allow my development
 machines to send me email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a setting where I
 can just specify my company external ip to allow all the mail from my
 internal subnet without being rejected?

 Thank you



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Re: [qmailtoaster] smtproutes and domainkeys, spf, srs

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza

SPF will not work in this case. Reread my earlier email. Yahoo doesn't
publish records for one to include. In addition DK usually fails when
you use a smarthost.

On 1/17/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Trung,
Is your toaster on a dynamic or static IP address?

Trung Pham wrote:
 So in my case, I am forwarding my mail through Yahoo. I should not bother
 setting up SPF, SRS, and Domainkeys since I won't see any benefit at all.

 Supposed if I handle my own outbound email and setup all those features
 properly. Do you think Yahoo will still put my mails in the Bulk folder?

TTBOMK, yahoo will not put your mail in bulk folders if you have DK
configured properly.

 Another question, is it necessary for us to setup reverse IP DNS? Because
 I think SBC will not help me do it.

 SRS and SPF can be used if your upstream isp publishes spf records.
 You can use the include statement (more info at openspf.org) to
 include their spf entries into your spf records. SBC, however, doesn't
 publish SPF records as Yahoo handles their infrastructure.

 The Qmail DomainKey implementation is to spec, but doesn't implement
 the optional h= header that limits the scope of the DomainKey
 signature to certain parts. Because of this, DomainKeys will fail if
 it is forwarded through a third party server.

 Erik

 On 1/16/07, Trung Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I currently have all my outgoing emails forwarded to my ISP server using
 smtproutes. So I am curious if I can still use domainkeys, spf, or srs
 features since my ISP will definitely modify the email header.

 FYI, I am using SBC Business DSL. I had to resolve to smtproutes
 otherwise
 Yahoo will put emails coming from me into the bulk folder.

 Please let me know if those features still work if I use my ISP to relay
 my mails.

 My goal is to stop incoming spams that forge my own address.





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Re: [qmailtoaster] tcpserver-limits-patch

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hey JP,

Please ensure that the patch defaults to the original behavior of the
QmailToaster if no settings are added to the tcp.smtp. I don't want to
accept a patch that changes the default behavior of the default
install.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/17/07, Jean-Paul van de Plasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I could not agree more on this.
Will do this today!

JP
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Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] tcpserver-limits-patch


 While doing this w/ iptables is certainly doable, I'd like to see a simple
 way of handling it with the toaster too. The patch would be nice (imho).

 Philip Nix Guru wrote:
 Hi JP
 I was just thinking in a general setup.
 Not everyone knows how to set iptables.
 And I often see spammers connecting to some of my smtps with 30-40
 connections (at least trying ..) :)
 that would easily get your server down for your customers, the max
 concurrencyincoming wont allow any new connections

 I use that kind of template (you can easily add -s and -d to filter)
 iptables -I INETIN -p tcp --dport 25 -i eth1 -m state --state NEW -m
 recent --set
 iptables -I INETIN -p tcp --dport 25 -i eth1 -m state --state NEW -m
 recent --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 10 -j DROP

 QToaster should add either the option through tcp.smtp or some basic
 iptables rules
 it would help a few users I think. Too often you see 30-100 connections
 from the same source and that just blocks your server for your real
 users

 Just an idea :)
 Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
 Hi Philip,

 Just curious but what good does it do when you can allready do this
 with iptables?
 When I changed ucspi-tcp-toaster last week I figured they  were not
 very usefull..

 Regards,

 JP

 - Original Message - From: Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:24 PM
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] tcpserver-limits-patch


 Hello EE
 would it be possible to integrate the tcpserver-limits-patch into the
 ucspi-tcp-toaster ?
 It is pretty useful to have MAXLOAD MAXCONNIP MAXCONNC  DIEMSG in
 the tcp.smtp cdb file

 I am already doing that trough my iptables setup but it could be useful
 Thx
 -Philip



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Accepting mail from local mail servers

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza

Question is, why is the toaster at company.com rejecting the message? I'm
not quite sure. A look at /var/log/qmail/smtp/current on the toaster should
tell. I'm curious to know exactly why the message is failing (I'm still
learning this stuff too!). In any case, the changes to tcp.smtp should give
a green light (open relay) for any session coming from the specified address.



I'd wager that the relay was denied because the internal machines
hostnames aren't resolve-able in DNS on the real Internet.

Suppose my public internet is kabewm.com and my internal
infrastructure runs on internal.kabewm.com. Since my public DNS
records don't have any A, MX or other entries for internal.kabewm.com,
then the QmailToaster will reject e-mail coming from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] since it couldn't possibly be a real return
e-mail.

shamelessplugBy the way, my blog is http://www.kabewm.com/ and
contains info on things going on with QmailToaster. :)/shamelessplug

Erik

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hi Dave,

There are projects about Network ACL's (IPTables), System backups
(Amanda), Daemon Lockdowns (Bastille) and so on. In addition there are
plenty of books on the subject matter. That said I mean absolutely no
offense to anyone by this next comment. This community isn't here to
teach you (or anyone) how to be a network and system admin.

We're here about the QmailToaster Project. Don't get me wrong, this
community always goes above and beyond to help out a straggled user,
but come on . . .

My apologies if anyone is offended.

Thanks,
Erik


Here are some things that come to mind, but I am sure
you folks can think of much more:

- Network ACL's
- System backups
- User data and config backups
- Daemon lockdown
- Removal of unneeded services
- Auto-updates of anything possible. (Think
Apache/PHP/SSH/etc... or, even more important,
SquirrelMail.)
- Basic health reporting / stats to someone.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Should I use qmail toaster?

2007-01-17 Thread Erik Espinoza

For that we have the QmailToaster Virtual Appliance for VMware
Server/Player/Workstation.

:)

Erik

On 1/17/07, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Erik,


 We're here about the QmailToaster Project. Don't get
 me wrong, this
 community always goes above and beyond to help out a
 straggled user,
 but come on . . .

 My apologies if anyone is offended.


No offense taken

The impressive amount of customization and packaging
effort that has been put into QmailToaster project
solves some of the biggest problems that a new
sysadmin would face in setting up an email server.

As you rightly point out, much of remaining points are
not at all about qmail.

This project almost provides a turn-key  solution
that even the most harried office administrator could
use to set up a small email server.

The suggestions, if implemented, would simply move the
project further down the appliance path.

-- David





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Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting

2007-01-16 Thread Erik Espinoza

You may want to check this out:

http://thomas.mangin.me.uk/software/qmail-greylist.html

Install instructions are simple:
cd /var/qmail/bin ; wget http://thomas.mangin.me.uk/data/source/greyd
; chmod +x greyd
mkdir /var/qmail/grey ; chown vpopmail.vchkpw /var/qmail/grey

Add ',GREY=' to the :allow statement at the bottom of /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp

Then change /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run to look like this:
#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u vpopmail`
NOFILESGID=`id -g vpopmail`
MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
BLACKLIST=`cat /var/qmail/control/blacklists`
SMTPD=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
GREYD=/var/qmail/bin/greyd
TCP_CDB=/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp.cdb
RBLSMTPD=/usr/bin/rblsmtpd
HOSTNAME=`hostname`
VCHKPW=/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw

exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 1200 \
/usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l $HOSTNAME -x $TCP_CDB -c $MAXSMTPD \
-u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID 0 smtp \
$GREYD $RBLSMTPD $BLACKLIST $SMTPD $VCHKPW /bin/true 21

On 1/16/07, Wojciech Gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I plan start any greylisting with QT. What package is recommended for QT?
Any HOWTO?
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Re: [qmailtoaster] apostrophe

2007-01-16 Thread Erik Espinoza

The + has been allowed for some time in the default toaster.

On 1/16/07, Tim Mancour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erik,

Which characters in the sender's mailbox identifier represent a security
issue? In my thinking these should be the only characters that are
restricted in the C code. The badmailfrom file can then be used to allow
site to site customization.

I know that everytime that I upgrade I have to do the hand building step to
allow the '+' character and would really like to be able to configure thus
sort of thing in a control file.

Regards,
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Erik Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:09 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] apostrophe

Tim,

Not a good idea. If you write this patch, it shall not be included into the
Toaster.

Qmail gets a lot of security by not allowing certain characters. For
example, any e-mail address that contains a . is stored in the file system
as a : because the period is a file system navigation character.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/15/07, Tim Mancour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 The toaster seems to be more restrictive than the current SMTP
 specification. RFC 2821 (page 37) only specifically prohibts ASCII
 characters 0 through 31 and characters greater than 126 from the name
 of a mailbox.

 As a long term solution, couldn't we modify the C code (specifically
 the function check_sender_address_format) to allow any character in
 the ASCII range 33 through 126. We could then use the badmailfrom
 control file to filter out sender addresses that contain characters
 that are undesirable. A single line with an explicit set of characters
 could be used - e.g. [ ,;:'`%\$\^\{\[\(\|\)\]\}\*\+\?\\].

 I could be missing something but I think that this will allow each
 site to customize as required without rebuilding the C code and
 without losing any functionality. I'd be happy to make the C code
 changes if this make sense to everyone.

 Regards,
 Tim


 -Original Message-
 From: Trung Pham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 5:14 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] apostrophe

 Yeah, you will need to edit the C code before compiling it.

  eh no..
  Its just that to change qmailtoaster/checkuser you have to change
  the code a bit.
 
  Like Eric explained below.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Dan Herbon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:48 PM
  Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] apostrophe
 
 
  So I have to have any user emailing this person to add a \ in front
  of the email address?:
 
  Bd\'[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Trung Pham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 4:37 PM
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] apostrophe
 
  #define CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_2 '\''
  that's the correct syntax
 
  Dan Herbon wrote:
  I've been live on the new qmailtoaster server now for about 3
  weeks and no problems have arisen, everythings been great.
 
 
 
  Today however I came across my first problem. A user we used to
  email back and forth has an apostrophe in her name and for some
  strange odd reason whoever set this person up put the apostrophe
  in her
 email
  address. So her email address is:   bd'[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  The qmail server is rejecting this with:
 
 
 
  
 
  2007-01-12 15:09:52.456145500 CHKUSER rejected sender: from
  BD'[EMAIL PROTECTED]:: remote
  mail-bh.server.com:unknown:12.19.*.* rcpt  : invalid sender
  address format
 
  -
 
 
 
  Is there an easy way to allow an apostrophe in the email address
  be delivered? Perhaps add just this users email address to some
  sort of whitelist somewhere. Any help would be great. I have to
  get this working.
 
 
 
  thank
 
 
  You should try very hard to have the admin for that domain change
  the name.
 
  Short of success with that, you *can* tailor chkuser to accept
  additional special characters, but tailoring chkuser is somewhat
  of a PITA. See http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Chkuser. In
  chkuser.h you'll want to modify
  /* #define CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_2 '%' */ by uncommenting the
  #define, and specifying the apostrophe as the special character.
  I'm not sure how to do that properly in C, but it might be #define
  CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_2 '\''
  or
  #define CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_2 
  Maybe a C guru can help you out on that.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] djbdns and domain keys

2007-01-16 Thread Erik Espinoza

I believe It should be noted that djbdns can't be both authoratative
and caching (recursive) at the same time.

Sanchez will correct me if I'm wrong. ;)

On 1/16/07, Vince Callaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 08:12 -0800, Ed Morrison wrote:
 Hi All:

 I'm trying to setup djbdns with domain keys for my server using these
 instructions from the wiki:

  DJBDNS - in /var/djbdns/tinydns/root/data (make from your-domain-dk.txt):

'_domainkey.your-domain.com:o=-; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'private._domainkey.your-domain.com:k=rsa; p=MEwwDQY . . . to end of 
key


 Has the new toaster changed so these instructions no longer apply?  The
 directory tinydns/root/data does not exist on my install.  Am I missing
 something obvious?

These instructions apply if your mail server is ALSO your authoritive
DNS server.  The mail servers public key record has to be part of your
public DNS.

If you installed the caching nameserver you will not have the
tinydns/root/data folder.  That is fine if your mailserver is NOT your
authoritive name server.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] apostrophe

2007-01-16 Thread Erik Espinoza

I'd be okay with that.

On 1/16/07, Jean-Paul van de Plasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think that making this a runtime configurable option is the best option.
Not that much of a problem to implement, and when we default it to the same
behaviour it has now it is up to the admins what they do with it.

Can you find yourself in that Erik?

JP
- Original Message -
From: Tim Mancour [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:15 PM
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] apostrophe


 Erik,

 Which characters in the sender's mailbox identifier represent a security
 issue? In my thinking these should be the only characters that are
 restricted in the C code. The badmailfrom file can then be used to allow
 site to site customization.

 I know that everytime that I upgrade I have to do the hand building step
 to
 allow the '+' character and would really like to be able to configure thus
 sort of thing in a control file.

 Regards,
 Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:09 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] apostrophe

 Tim,

 Not a good idea. If you write this patch, it shall not be included into
 the
 Toaster.

 Qmail gets a lot of security by not allowing certain characters. For
 example, any e-mail address that contains a . is stored in the file
 system
 as a : because the period is a file system navigation character.

 Thanks,
 Erik

 On 1/15/07, Tim Mancour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 The toaster seems to be more restrictive than the current SMTP
 specification. RFC 2821 (page 37) only specifically prohibts ASCII
 characters 0 through 31 and characters greater than 126 from the name
 of a mailbox.

 As a long term solution, couldn't we modify the C code (specifically
 the function check_sender_address_format) to allow any character in
 the ASCII range 33 through 126. We could then use the badmailfrom
 control file to filter out sender addresses that contain characters
 that are undesirable. A single line with an explicit set of characters
 could be used - e.g. [ ,;:'`%\$\^\{\[\(\|\)\]\}\*\+\?\\].

 I could be missing something but I think that this will allow each
 site to customize as required without rebuilding the C code and
 without losing any functionality. I'd be happy to make the C code
 changes if this make sense to everyone.

 Regards,
 Tim


 -Original Message-
 From: Trung Pham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 5:14 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] apostrophe

 Yeah, you will need to edit the C code before compiling it.

  eh no..
  Its just that to change qmailtoaster/checkuser you have to change
  the code a bit.
 
  Like Eric explained below.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Dan Herbon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:48 PM
  Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] apostrophe
 
 
  So I have to have any user emailing this person to add a \ in front
  of the email address?:
 
  Bd\'[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Trung Pham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 4:37 PM
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] apostrophe
 
  #define CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_2 '\''
  that's the correct syntax
 
  Dan Herbon wrote:
  I've been live on the new qmailtoaster server now for about 3
  weeks and no problems have arisen, everythings been great.
 
 
 
  Today however I came across my first problem. A user we used to
  email back and forth has an apostrophe in her name and for some
  strange odd reason whoever set this person up put the apostrophe
  in her
 email
  address. So her email address is:   bd'[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  The qmail server is rejecting this with:
 
 
 
  
 
  2007-01-12 15:09:52.456145500 CHKUSER rejected sender: from
  BD'[EMAIL PROTECTED]:: remote
  mail-bh.server.com:unknown:12.19.*.* rcpt  : invalid sender
  address format
 
  -
 
 
 
  Is there an easy way to allow an apostrophe in the email address
  be delivered? Perhaps add just this users email address to some
  sort of whitelist somewhere. Any help would be great. I have to
  get this working.
 
 
 
  thank
 
 
  You should try very hard to have the admin for that domain change
  the name.
 
  Short of success with that, you *can* tailor chkuser to accept
  additional special characters, but tailoring chkuser is somewhat
  of a PITA. See http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Chkuser. In
  chkuser.h you'll want to modify
  /* #define CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_2 '%' */ by uncommenting the
  #define, and specifying the apostrophe as the special character.
  I'm not sure how to do that properly in C, but it might be #define
  CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_2 '\''
  or
  #define CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_2 
  Maybe a C guru can help you out

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