Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Maxwell Smart
I am having authentication problems that I cannot seem to figure out.  
It always seems to happen with Thunderbird on Windows systems.   I 
cannot get the outgoing SMTP server to authenticate.  It always comes up 
with an error, cannot connect to server.   I am sure it's a problem with 
Thunderbird, but cannot seem to solve it.  Anyone else have trouble 
sending out using Thunderbird? 

The mail server is QMT and authenticates fine from a Linux workstation 
at the same location as the Windows box.


CJ

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Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Andreas Galatis
Hi Maxwell,

following your description this is not a authentification problem but rather a 
DNS or configuration issue.
Did you set the correct servername for outgoing mails in Thunderbird?
Is the protocol (smtp, submission) open on your (outgoing) firewall?
Cannot connect to server is far before authentification.
Try telnetting from those windows clients.

Andreas
Am Wednesday 19 August 2009 08:04:37 schrieb Maxwell Smart:
 I am having authentication problems that I cannot seem to figure out.
 It always seems to happen with Thunderbird on Windows systems.   I
 cannot get the outgoing SMTP server to authenticate.  It always comes up
 with an error, cannot connect to server.   I am sure it's a problem with
 Thunderbird, but cannot seem to solve it.  Anyone else have trouble
 sending out using Thunderbird?

 The mail server is QMT and authenticates fine from a Linux workstation
 at the same location as the Windows box.

 CJ

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Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Maxwell Smart
I can connect from the same network using a Linux box.  I can also 
connect to the server from the windows box using webmail, which means 
the DNS is working correctly. 



Andreas Galatis wrote:

Hi Maxwell,

following your description this is not a authentification problem but rather a 
DNS or configuration issue.

Did you set the correct servername for outgoing mails in Thunderbird?
Is the protocol (smtp, submission) open on your (outgoing) firewall?
Cannot connect to server is far before authentification.
Try telnetting from those windows clients.

Andreas
Am Wednesday 19 August 2009 08:04:37 schrieb Maxwell Smart:
  

I am having authentication problems that I cannot seem to figure out.
It always seems to happen with Thunderbird on Windows systems.   I
cannot get the outgoing SMTP server to authenticate.  It always comes up
with an error, cannot connect to server.   I am sure it's a problem with
Thunderbird, but cannot seem to solve it.  Anyone else have trouble
sending out using Thunderbird?

The mail server is QMT and authenticates fine from a Linux workstation
at the same location as the Windows box.

CJ

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Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Philip

Maxwell
try testing the authentification with a telnet session
from your windows box, if that works you can pin point the issue to your 
mail client


if you dont know how to test it via telnet
use this nice tut :
http://qmail.jms1.net/test-auth.shtml

Cheers
-P
Maxwell Smart wrote:
I can connect from the same network using a Linux box.  I can also 
connect to the server from the windows box using webmail, which means 
the DNS is working correctly.


Andreas Galatis wrote:

Hi Maxwell,

following your description this is not a authentification problem but 
rather a DNS or configuration issue.

Did you set the correct servername for outgoing mails in Thunderbird?
Is the protocol (smtp, submission) open on your (outgoing) firewall?
Cannot connect to server is far before authentification.
Try telnetting from those windows clients.

Andreas
Am Wednesday 19 August 2009 08:04:37 schrieb Maxwell Smart:
 

I am having authentication problems that I cannot seem to figure out.
It always seems to happen with Thunderbird on Windows systems.   I
cannot get the outgoing SMTP server to authenticate.  It always 
comes up
with an error, cannot connect to server.   I am sure it's a problem 
with

Thunderbird, but cannot seem to solve it.  Anyone else have trouble
sending out using Thunderbird?

The mail server is QMT and authenticates fine from a Linux workstation
at the same location as the Windows box.

CJ

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Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Andreas Galatis
Did you try telnet from the concerned windose?

Andreas 

Am Wednesday 19 August 2009 08:52:51 schrieb Maxwell Smart:
 I can connect from the same network using a Linux box.  I can also
 connect to the server from the windows box using webmail, which means
 the DNS is working correctly.

 Andreas Galatis wrote:
  Hi Maxwell,
 
  following your description this is not a authentification problem but
  rather a DNS or configuration issue.
  Did you set the correct servername for outgoing mails in Thunderbird?
  Is the protocol (smtp, submission) open on your (outgoing) firewall?
  Cannot connect to server is far before authentification.
  Try telnetting from those windows clients.
 
  Andreas
 
  Am Wednesday 19 August 2009 08:04:37 schrieb Maxwell Smart:
  I am having authentication problems that I cannot seem to figure out.
  It always seems to happen with Thunderbird on Windows systems.   I
  cannot get the outgoing SMTP server to authenticate.  It always comes up
  with an error, cannot connect to server.   I am sure it's a problem with
  Thunderbird, but cannot seem to solve it.  Anyone else have trouble
  sending out using Thunderbird?
 
  The mail server is QMT and authenticates fine from a Linux workstation
  at the same location as the Windows box.
 
  CJ
 
  
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Re: [qmailtoaster] vpopmail upgrade

2009-08-19 Thread Jake Vickers

Eric Shubert wrote:
Matt Brookings at inter7.com is feverishly working on rolling out 
vpopmail 5.5. This is a fairly major rewrite. Backends will be 
separate modules, and as such will not need to be compiled into the 
main program. They'll be dynamically configurable, instead of having 
to specify them at ./config/compile time.


Considering what he's written to me, I've decided to wait on doing 
ldap support for QMT until ldap is available with 5.5. That will be a 
couple months before it ready to test.


However, testing of 5.5 with mysql is ready for testing now. This is 
strictly a development version at this point, only for testing. If 
anyone would like to do some testing on it, Matt would surely 
appreciate it. If you're interested, c'mon over to the vpopmail list 
(vch...@inter7.com) and join the fun. I'll help out where I can, but 
I'll be testing ldap when Matt has it availble.


Quotas will be fixed in 5.5 (they're fixed in 5.4.28 as well).

qmailadmin 1.4 works with 5.5, and is available for testing as well.

And get this. Matt says that vQadmin isn't dead at all, and will be 
upgraded for 5.5. I'm thinking we should get the upgraded vQadmin 
working on the toaster in conjunction with the 5.5 release. (Sorry Jake).


Anybody want to do some testing?
Thoughts?


Glad to see a new release, and relieved.
The new vqadmin will be packages up once it becomes stable and made 
available, but I'll still move it to the optional software section 
once the other menu system is created and in place. That's the way 
everyone voted.
Once the new Inter7 packages become stable, let me know and I'll start 
packaging them up for QMT and doing some testing. I'll start a thread on 
the devel list when I start this process to keep everyone abreast with 
what is happening.


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RE: [qmailtoaster] tcprules

2009-08-19 Thread Phil Leinhauser
Thanks Ganesh.   That did it but I'm not sure what it did other than
removing the blank lines.  I rebuilt it with my settings and it still
worked.

I didn't have the blanks in the tcp.smtp file.  They showed up when I pasted
it.  I'm assuming they were causing the problem.  Now I need to figure out
how they got in there.

 

Phil

 

From: Ganesh.payelkar [mailto:ganesh.payel...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:30 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] tcprules

 

Dear Phil,

  Try this tcp.smtp and after compare with your tcp.smtp 


127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private,R
BLSMTPD=,NOP0FCHECK=1
:allow,BADMIMETYPE=,BADLOADERTYPE=M,CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT=50,CHKUSER_WRONG
RCPTLIMIT=10,QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/simscan,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/contro
l/domainkeys/%/private,NOP0FCHECK=1

Regards,
Ganesh
 

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Phil Leinhauser p...@teqknow.com wrote:

OK, I just did a qmailctl cdb and I'm getting unable to parse errors.
Here's the tcp.smtp:

10.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,NOP0FCHECK=1,SENDER_NOCHECK=1

127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,NOP0FCHECK=1,SENDER_NOCHECK=1

:allow,BADMIMETYPE=,SENDER_NOCHECK=1,BADLOADERTYPE=M,CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT
=50,CHKUSER_WRONGRCPTLIMIT=10,QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/simscan,NOP0FC
HECK=1

It apparently hasn't been working for a while.  Maybe since the last
newmodel.

Any clues what's up?  Mail is flowing normally so I'm really confused.

Phil



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Re: [qmailtoaster] chkuser issue

2009-08-19 Thread Jake Vickers

Mike Canty wrote:

Eric,
Sorry, but what you have suggested, is not working for me.

I have altered the tcp.smtp file with your suggestion.  I have included a
line exactly like the 127. Line but changed the IP address to be
192.168.xxx. (obviously the xxx is a number).

I was having messages on the sending server, but I have corrected these.  A
line from the maillog on the sending server reads as below (the actual
server that is sending the message is shown here as
r...@server.domainname.com.au, the recipient is
u...@anotherdomainname.com.au and the relay is the recipient mail server

Aug 19 14:13:25 server sendmail[2101]: n7J4hPKb002101: from=root, size=357,
class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=200908190443.n7j4hpkb002...@server.domainname.com.au,
relay=r...@localhost
Aug 19 14:13:26 server sendmail[2102]: n7J4hPPH002102:
from=r...@server.domainname.com.au, size=697, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=200908190443.n7J4hPKb002101@ server.domainname.com.au, proto=ESMTP,
daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
Aug 19 14:13:26 server sendmail[2101]: n7J4hPKb002101:
to=u...@anotherdomain.com.au, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:01,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30357, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1],
dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (n7J4hPPH002102 Message accepted for delivery)
Aug 19 14:13:26 server sendmail[2104]: STARTTLS=client,
relay=mailserver.anotherdomain.com.au., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL,
cipher=AES256-SHA, bits=256/256

From what I can gather here the message was sent OK from the originating
server.  However, the message is still showing as below.


The original message was received at Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:13:25 +0930
from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
u...@anohterdomain.com.au
(reason: 511 sorry, can't find a valid MX for sender domain (#5.1.1 -
chkuser))

  


The settings for chkuser to verify a valid MX record for the sending 
domain (TTBOMK) cannot be changed with a switch. It can only be changed 
by editing the source code and recompiling.
You will need to have that sender get a valid MX record created or 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Jake Vickers

Philip wrote:

Maxwell
try testing the authentification with a telnet session
from your windows box, if that works you can pin point the issue to 
your mail client


if you dont know how to test it via telnet
use this nice tut :
http://qmail.jms1.net/test-auth.shtml



There is a more boiled-down one on the wiki:
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_use_telnet_for_diagnostics


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RE: [qmailtoaster] tcprules

2009-08-19 Thread Phil Leinhauser
This one is for Jake:

OK, I found how it's getting the spaces.  If you save it from QControl it
will no longer parse correctly.

 

 

From: Phil Leinhauser [mailto:p...@teqknow.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:32 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] tcprules

 

Thanks Ganesh.   That did it but I'm not sure what it did other than
removing the blank lines.  I rebuilt it with my settings and it still
worked.

I didn't have the blanks in the tcp.smtp file.  They showed up when I pasted
it.  I'm assuming they were causing the problem.  Now I need to figure out
how they got in there.

 

Phil

 

From: Ganesh.payelkar [mailto:ganesh.payel...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:30 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] tcprules

 

Dear Phil,

  Try this tcp.smtp and after compare with your tcp.smtp 


127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private,R
BLSMTPD=,NOP0FCHECK=1
:allow,BADMIMETYPE=,BADLOADERTYPE=M,CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT=50,CHKUSER_WRONG
RCPTLIMIT=10,QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/simscan,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/contro
l/domainkeys/%/private,NOP0FCHECK=1

Regards,
Ganesh
 

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Phil Leinhauser p...@teqknow.com wrote:

OK, I just did a qmailctl cdb and I'm getting unable to parse errors.
Here's the tcp.smtp:

10.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,NOP0FCHECK=1,SENDER_NOCHECK=1

127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,NOP0FCHECK=1,SENDER_NOCHECK=1

:allow,BADMIMETYPE=,SENDER_NOCHECK=1,BADLOADERTYPE=M,CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT
=50,CHKUSER_WRONGRCPTLIMIT=10,QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/simscan,NOP0FC
HECK=1

It apparently hasn't been working for a while.  Maybe since the last
newmodel.

Any clues what's up?  Mail is flowing normally so I'm really confused.

Phil



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Re: [qmailtoaster] tcprules

2009-08-19 Thread Jake Vickers

Phil Leinhauser wrote:


This one is for Jake:

OK, I found how it's getting the spaces.  If you save it from QControl 
it will no longer parse correctly.


 

 



Hmm. I'll look into that one. If that's the case then I know where it's 
coming into play.




Re: [qmailtoaster] tcprules

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert
What did you use to edit the file? Is it possible that you had some CR 
characters in with your LF characters (DOS format)? You would see the 
CRs in the vi editor.


Phil Leinhauser wrote:
Thanks Ganesh.   That did it but I’m not sure what it did other than 
removing the blank lines.  I rebuilt it with my settings and it still 
worked.


I didn’t have the blanks in the tcp.smtp file.  They showed up when I 
pasted it.  I’m assuming they were causing the problem.  Now I need to 
figure out how they got in there.


 


Phil

 


*From:* Ganesh.payelkar [mailto:ganesh.payel...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:30 AM
*To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
*Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] tcprules

 


Dear Phil,

  Try this tcp.smtp and after compare with your tcp.smtp


127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private,RBLSMTPD=,NOP0FCHECK=1
:allow,BADMIMETYPE=,BADLOADERTYPE=M,CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT=50,CHKUSER_WRONGRCPTLIMIT=10,QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/simscan,DKSIGN=/var/qmail/control/domainkeys/%/private,NOP0FCHECK=1

Regards,
Ganesh


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Phil Leinhauser p...@teqknow.com 
mailto:p...@teqknow.com wrote:


OK, I just did a qmailctl cdb and I'm getting unable to parse errors.
Here's the tcp.smtp:

10.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,NOP0FCHECK=1,SENDER_NOCHECK=1

127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=,RBLSMTPD=,NOP0FCHECK=1,SENDER_NOCHECK=1

:allow,BADMIMETYPE=,SENDER_NOCHECK=1,BADLOADERTYPE=M,CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT
=50,CHKUSER_WRONGRCPTLIMIT=10,QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/simscan,NOP0FC
HECK=1

It apparently hasn't been working for a while.  Maybe since the last
newmodel.

Any clues what's up?  Mail is flowing normally so I'm really confused.

Phil




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spam getting through

2009-08-19 Thread amit IKF
Hi Everyone,
How do I enable Spamdyke for my qmail toaster? Do I need to install and
enable it from qtp-menu?

Regards,

Amit

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 wrote:

 Dear Ronnie,

 If you area talking about the spam then i will suggest you to
 install spamdyke,
  which is best for spam after spamassassin.
  Kindly correct me if i am wrong

 Regards,
 Ganesh


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 I have been having alot of spam coming through as of late.

 A common theme seems to be the SPF record is set.  Can I disable the SPF
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Re: [qmailtoaster] chkuser issue

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert

Jake Vickers wrote:

Mike Canty wrote:

Eric,
Sorry, but what you have suggested, is not working for me.

I have altered the tcp.smtp file with your suggestion.  I have included a
line exactly like the 127. Line but changed the IP address to be
192.168.xxx. (obviously the xxx is a number).

I was having messages on the sending server, but I have corrected 
these.  A

line from the maillog on the sending server reads as below (the actual
server that is sending the message is shown here as
r...@server.domainname.com.au, the recipient is
u...@anotherdomainname.com.au and the relay is the recipient mail 
server


Aug 19 14:13:25 server sendmail[2101]: n7J4hPKb002101: from=root, 
size=357,

class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=200908190443.n7j4hpkb002...@server.domainname.com.au,
relay=r...@localhost
Aug 19 14:13:26 server sendmail[2102]: n7J4hPPH002102:
from=r...@server.domainname.com.au, size=697, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=200908190443.n7J4hPKb002101@ server.domainname.com.au, 
proto=ESMTP,

daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
Aug 19 14:13:26 server sendmail[2101]: n7J4hPKb002101:
to=u...@anotherdomain.com.au, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:01,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30357, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1],
dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (n7J4hPPH002102 Message accepted for delivery)
Aug 19 14:13:26 server sendmail[2104]: STARTTLS=client,
relay=mailserver.anotherdomain.com.au., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL,
cipher=AES256-SHA, bits=256/256

From what I can gather here the message was sent OK from the originating
server.  However, the message is still showing as below.


The original message was received at Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:13:25 +0930
from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
u...@anohterdomain.com.au
(reason: 511 sorry, can't find a valid MX for sender domain (#5.1.1 -
chkuser))

  


The settings for chkuser to verify a valid MX record for the sending 
domain (TTBOMK) cannot be changed with a switch. It can only be changed 
by editing the source code and recompiling.
You will need to have that sender get a valid MX record created or 
create your own DNS entry to allow it through.




See 
http://www.interazioni.it/opensource/chkuser/documentation/chkuser_settings.html
I believe you can add a variable definition to your line in tcp.smtp 
that tells chkuser not to check this. Since CHKUSER_SENDER_MX is already 
set at compile time, I don't know how you'd unset it using an 
environment variable. Looks like you can turn off chkuser entirely 
though. See CHKUSER_STARTING_VARIABLE. If I'm reading that right, if you 
add CHKUSER_STARTING_VARIABLE=CU_START_VAR,CU_START_VAR=none would 
turn off chkuser entirely for that connection.


On a side note, could CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_3=/ be used for 
blackberries, without having to rebuild qmail-toaster? If so, I think 
this adds fodder to redoing the stock toaster chkuser defaults. I'm 
thinking that if options cannot be turned off dynamically 
(CHKUSER_SENDER_MX for example), then they should be left off at compile 
time and activated in the tcp.smtp file, so that they can be dynamically 
disabled if desired. It could very well be that we can simply use the 
stock chkuser defaults as they are, and use definitions in tcp.smtp for 
toaster variants.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spam getting through

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert
You can install it from qtp-menu (qtp-install-spamdyke script). You'll 
need to restart qmail afterwards to make it effective (turn it on). Be 
sure to review the configuration settings (/etc/spamdyke/spamdyke.conf) 
before turning it on. See the 
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Spamdyke and documentation at the 
spamdyke site for details.


amit IKF wrote:

Hi Everyone,

How do I enable Spamdyke for my qmail toaster? Do I need to install and 
enable it from qtp-menu?


Regards,

Amit

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ganesh.payel...@gmail.com mailto:ganesh.payel...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear Ronnie,

If you area talking about the spam then i will suggest
you to install spamdyke,
 which is best for spam after spamassassin.
 Kindly correct me if i am wrong

Regards,
Ganesh


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rtar...@host2max.com mailto:rtar...@host2max.com wrote:

I have been having alot of spam coming through as of late.

A common theme seems to be the SPF record is set.  Can I disable
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Regards,

Ronnie


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Re: [qmailtoaster] vpopmail upgrade

2009-08-19 Thread karpaha vinayaham
Hi Eric

This new release is really a good news, if its solves the quota limit of 2GB
per users.  if the new version solve this issues, i will be testing this
with my test machine.

Can you guide me, how do i make the vpopmail-toaster rpm for my centos 5.3
with this new source file.

Till now i followed the following procedure to upgrade any src package,

example-

rpmbuild --rebuild --with cnt50 $VPOP
rpm -Uvh /usr/src/$BDIR/RPMS/$ARCH/vpopmail-toaster*.rpm


I have not updated any toaster package directly from source file, please
guide me.

Before upgrading vpomail, if i need to take any precaution you can share it,
because this will help me while upgrading in my production server. Now im
going to test in my test machine only.



With Regards
Vinay



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 Matt Brookings at inter7.com is feverishly working on rolling out vpopmail
 5.5. This is a fairly major rewrite. Backends will be separate modules, and
 as such will not need to be compiled into the main program. They'll be
 dynamically configurable, instead of having to specify them at
 ./config/compile time.

 Considering what he's written to me, I've decided to wait on doing ldap
 support for QMT until ldap is available with 5.5. That will be a couple
 months before it ready to test.

 However, testing of 5.5 with mysql is ready for testing now. This is
 strictly a development version at this point, only for testing. If anyone
 would like to do some testing on it, Matt would surely appreciate it. If
 you're interested, c'mon over to the vpopmail list (vch...@inter7.com) and
 join the fun. I'll help out where I can, but I'll be testing ldap when Matt
 has it availble.

 Quotas will be fixed in 5.5 (they're fixed in 5.4.28 as well).

 qmailadmin 1.4 works with 5.5, and is available for testing as well.

 And get this. Matt says that vQadmin isn't dead at all, and will be
 upgraded for 5.5. I'm thinking we should get the upgraded vQadmin working on
 the toaster in conjunction with the 5.5 release. (Sorry Jake).

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Re: [qmailtoaster] chkuser issue

2009-08-19 Thread Jake Vickers

Eric Shubert wrote:



On a side note, could CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_3=/ be used for 
blackberries, without having to rebuild qmail-toaster? If so, I think 
this adds fodder to redoing the stock toaster chkuser defaults. I'm 
thinking that if options cannot be turned off dynamically 
(CHKUSER_SENDER_MX for example), then they should be left off at 
compile time and activated in the tcp.smtp file, so that they can be 
dynamically disabled if desired. It could very well be that we can 
simply use the stock chkuser defaults as they are, and use definitions 
in tcp.smtp for toaster variants.


Or perhaps I'm just not awake yet (still dreaming).


Qmailtoaster mostly uses the defaults for chkuser and you can adjust 
some variables as necessary in the tcp.smtp file.
I do not think you can just define compilation flags like that in the 
tcp.smtp file, but I have never tried either. May be something I learn 
as well!
If an option cannot be dynamically controlled it will need to be defined 
in the code. That's why I wanted to start a matrix of options on the 
devel list and kinda steer how the options would be set as defaults in 
the next update. I was trying to get the community's opinion and adjust 
the defaults according to that.
I personally think that options such as checking the sender's MX record 
are valid - if you get a message from an invalid MX (or no MX), how do 
you bounce messages for the other admin to know he has a misconfigured 
system? I think turning options like this one off will cause more 
headaches and bad public opinion than they would provide a benefit.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] vpopmail upgrade

2009-08-19 Thread Jake Vickers

karpaha vinayaham wrote:

Hi Eric

This new release is really a good news, if its solves the quota limit 
of 2GB per users.  if the new version solve this issues, i will be 
testing this with my test machine.


Can you guide me, how do i make the vpopmail-toaster rpm for my centos 
5.3 with this new source file.


Till now i followed the following procedure to upgrade any src package,


Why don't you wait until it's stable and a package is released 
officially here? From what Eric says, it will be 2-3 months before the 
coding is even done, and then you have to content with bugs and bug reports.
Once the software is completed and stable, I will release an official 
RPM for replacement.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] duplicate mail

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert
Looks like it might work. Some of the time. It's not 100%, as you might 
get dups when the hash file rolls over. It's sort of crude, but might 
meet your objective.


Like Jake said though, I'm not sure this solves the real problem, which 
lies in how the duplicates come into being in the first place.


Duplicates can also come about due to server performance problems. If 
you implement this script, it will mask these other duplicates as well, 
and you might not have any other evidence that a problem exists. This 
could be dangerous.


Jinu wrote:

Hi

 

Logically it has to deliver two copies in properly working environment, 
here I have enclosed the script which referred for the same.


 

Please check and suggest whether my requirement is possible with below 
script.


 


Thanks

Jinu

 


#! /usr/bin/perl

#--

# Copyright 2006 Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or

# modify it under the same terms as Perl itself.

#--

#

#

# Modified for use with vpopmail

# by Chris Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# originally by Russell Nelson, http://www.qmail.org/eliminate-dups

#

#

# Now, if delivery to the mbox is deferred, eliminate-dups will NOT be

# run a second time for the same message.

#

# Set up ~vpopmail/domains/domain.com/.qmail-default as follows:

#

#  | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' [EMAIL PROTECTED]

#

# Then create a ~vpopmail/domains/domain.com/.qmail-delivery file as 
follows:


#

#  |bin/eliminate-dups domain.com duphash

#  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

#

# Now, if delivery to the mbox is deferred, eliminate-dups will NOT be

# run a second time for the same message.

 


my $basedir = /home/vpopmail/domains;

 


my $domainname = shift;

my $hname = shift;

my $hashname = $basedir/$domainname/$hname;

 


use Digest::MD5;

$md5 = new Digest::MD5;

 


$loose = 1; # loose matching if set.

 


while() {

   last if /^$/;

   next if $ignore_continue  /^\s/;

   $ignore_continue = 0;

   if (/^received:/i) {

   $ignore_continue = 1;

   next;

   }

   if (!$loose) {

   $headers .= $_;

   next;

   }

   if ($keep_continue  /^\s/) {

   $headers .= $_;

   next;

   }

   $keep_continue = 0;

   if (m/^(from|message-id|date):/i) {

   $headers .= $_;

   $keep_continue = 1;

   next;

   }

   next;

}

 


$md5-add($headers);

$md5-addfile(STDIN);

$hash = $md5-hexdigest;

print $headers Our hash:$hash\n;

 


if (open(HASH, $hashname.newer)) {

   flock(HASH, 2);

   while(HASH) { chomp; exit 99 if $_ eq $hash; }

}

open(HASH, $hashname.older) || die $0: Cannot open $hashname.older;

while(HASH) { chomp; exit 99 if $_ eq $hash; }

 


# roll the files once a week.

if (-M $hashname.older  7) {

rename($hashname.newer, $hashname.older) || die $0: Unable to move 
newer to older;


}

 


# add the hash to the received messages list.

open(HASH, $hashname.newer) || die $0: Cannot append to 
$hashname.newer;


print HASH $hash\n;

close(HASH);

 


print Original message;

exit 0;

 

   

 


*From:* Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2009 4:49 PM
*To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
*Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] duplicate mail

 


Jinu wrote:

Hi

 

I using mail server prepared through qmail toaster. Here I’m facing 
problem with duplicate mails. If I send mail to multiple alias where 
same ID included in both alias, two mails will be delivered to user. I 
just come across the script called eliminate dups. Please help me to 
implement the same or suggest some solution as I’m new to qmail.


 


Thanks

Jinu   

 

 



Doesn't this seem like logical behavior? If you send two copies of the 
same message to the same use, shouldn't they then get 2 copies?
I'd suggest instead of adding a script (I've never heard of your script 
before) that you rethink the logic of your mail delivery and adjust to 
not create the problem in the first place, instead of creating the 
problem and then adding other modifications to then fix the problem you 
created.

Just my opinion.




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Re: [qmailtoaster] vpopmail upgrade

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert

Jake Vickers wrote:

karpaha vinayaham wrote:

Hi Eric

This new release is really a good news, if its solves the quota limit 
of 2GB per users.  if the new version solve this issues, i will be 
testing this with my test machine.


Can you guide me, how do i make the vpopmail-toaster rpm for my centos 
5.3 with this new source file.


Till now i followed the following procedure to upgrade any src package,


Why don't you wait until it's stable and a package is released 
officially here? From what Eric says, it will be 2-3 months before the 
coding is even done, and then you have to content with bugs and bug 
reports.
Once the software is completed and stable, I will release an official 
RPM for replacement.



Jake,
I think he's asking how he can help with the testing process. Yes it 
will be a few months before a stable (production) version is ready. In 
the meantime though, Matt can use all of the testers he can.


If you'd like to test, I believe that the sources are in an svn repo. 
Justice, can you lend a hand here? Perhaps we can come up with spec file 
that testers can use to roll their own rpms. Any takers for this?


I must repeat, that this is for TEST MACHINES ONLY. This is a warning 
for those of you who think they're going to run it on a live machine. 
Don't even go there. This is like alpha code, not even beta yet.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] vpopmail upgrade

2009-08-19 Thread karpaha vinayaham
Dear Jake

In our organisation, we have planned to set user wise quota, while
implementing this we faced a problem of quota limits, that's why i am
curious for the new release that would solve my problem.

Anyway i can wait for the stable one.


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Jake Vickers j...@qmailtoaster.com wrote:

 karpaha vinayaham wrote:

 Hi Eric

 This new release is really a good news, if its solves the quota limit of
 2GB per users.  if the new version solve this issues, i will be testing this
 with my test machine.

 Can you guide me, how do i make the vpopmail-toaster rpm for my centos 5.3
 with this new source file.

 Till now i followed the following procedure to upgrade any src package,


 Why don't you wait until it's stable and a package is released officially
 here? From what Eric says, it will be 2-3 months before the coding is even
 done, and then you have to content with bugs and bug reports.
 Once the software is completed and stable, I will release an official RPM
 for replacement.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] chkuser issue

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert

Jake Vickers wrote:

Eric Shubert wrote:



On a side note, could CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_3=/ be used for 
blackberries, without having to rebuild qmail-toaster? If so, I think 
this adds fodder to redoing the stock toaster chkuser defaults. I'm 
thinking that if options cannot be turned off dynamically 
(CHKUSER_SENDER_MX for example), then they should be left off at 
compile time and activated in the tcp.smtp file, so that they can be 
dynamically disabled if desired. It could very well be that we can 
simply use the stock chkuser defaults as they are, and use definitions 
in tcp.smtp for toaster variants.


Or perhaps I'm just not awake yet (still dreaming).


Qmailtoaster mostly uses the defaults for chkuser and you can adjust 
some variables as necessary in the tcp.smtp file.
I do not think you can just define compilation flags like that in the 
tcp.smtp file, but I have never tried either. May be something I learn 
as well!


I used to think this as well until I looked that this (updated) 
documentation. Perhaps the capability was added as some point. I just 
see that there's CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT=50 in the tcp.smtp file, and a 
corresponding entry in the .h configuration. If it works for this 
parameter, why not the others? I don't see anything on that web page 
which says one way or another.


If an option cannot be dynamically controlled it will need to be defined 
in the code. That's why I wanted to start a matrix of options on the 
devel list and kinda steer how the options would be set as defaults in 
the next update. I was trying to get the community's opinion and adjust 
the defaults according to that.


I understand that, and I think it's still a valid thing to do. I'm 
simply suggesting that whatever settings we choose for the stock toaster 
perhaps should be set in the tcp.smtp file, instead of hard coded 
changes (another patch) to the chkuser defaults.


I personally think that options such as checking the sender's MX record 
are valid - if you get a message from an invalid MX (or no MX), how do 
you bounce messages for the other admin to know he has a misconfigured 
system? I think turning options like this one off will cause more 
headaches and bad public opinion than they would provide a benefit.




I'm not suggesting to turn it off. I'm suggesting we turn it on in the 
tcp.smtp file instead of not having the option to turn it off. Dynamic 
good. Hard coded bad. ;)


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Re: [qmailtoaster] vpopmail upgrade

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert
I'm fairly sure that 5.5 will fix your problem. I believe that it has 
domain limit capability as well. It will certainly be 2-3 months or so 
before it's ready for production though.


karpaha vinayaham wrote:

Dear Jake

In our organisation, we have planned to set user wise quota, while 
implementing this we faced a problem of quota limits, that's why i am 
curious for the new release that would solve my problem.


Anyway i can wait for the stable one.


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Jake Vickers j...@qmailtoaster.com 
mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com wrote:


karpaha vinayaham wrote:

Hi Eric

This new release is really a good news, if its solves the quota
limit of 2GB per users.  if the new version solve this issues, i
will be testing this with my test machine.

Can you guide me, how do i make the vpopmail-toaster rpm for my
centos 5.3 with this new source file.

Till now i followed the following procedure to upgrade any src
package,


Why don't you wait until it's stable and a package is released
officially here? From what Eric says, it will be 2-3 months before
the coding is even done, and then you have to content with bugs and
bug reports.
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official RPM for replacement.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] vpopmail upgrade

2009-08-19 Thread karpaha vinayaham
Thanks  Eric, let's wait for a stable release.


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

 I'm fairly sure that 5.5 will fix your problem. I believe that it has
 domain limit capability as well. It will certainly be 2-3 months or so
 before it's ready for production though.




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Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Maxwell Smart
I know how to use telnet, but I don't activate it on my servers because 
it's insecure.  I'll take a look at it later.  It's not that pressing 
since it's only on my wifes machine! :)


Jake Vickers wrote:

Philip wrote:

Maxwell
try testing the authentification with a telnet session
from your windows box, if that works you can pin point the issue to 
your mail client


if you dont know how to test it via telnet
use this nice tut :
http://qmail.jms1.net/test-auth.shtml



There is a more boiled-down one on the wiki:
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_use_telnet_for_diagnostics


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Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert

You don't have to have telnet on the server. It's a client app. You can
# telnet mailhost 25
to any email transport server, so long as there is connectivity.

(Perhaps you're thinking of ssh??)

Maxwell Smart wrote:
I know how to use telnet, but I don't activate it on my servers because 
it's insecure.  I'll take a look at it later.  It's not that pressing 
since it's only on my wifes machine! :)


Jake Vickers wrote:

Philip wrote:

Maxwell
try testing the authentification with a telnet session
from your windows box, if that works you can pin point the issue to 
your mail client


if you dont know how to test it via telnet
use this nice tut :
http://qmail.jms1.net/test-auth.shtml



There is a more boiled-down one on the wiki:
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_use_telnet_for_diagnostics


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Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Maxwell Smart
Doh!  I don't know why I thought I had to have Telnet running on the 
server.  Thanks Eric.  That's what happens when you have too many balls 
in the air.


I can see clearly now, my brain is gone

CJ

Eric Shubert wrote:

You don't have to have telnet on the server. It's a client app. You can
# telnet mailhost 25
to any email transport server, so long as there is connectivity.

(Perhaps you're thinking of ssh??)

Maxwell Smart wrote:
I know how to use telnet, but I don't activate it on my servers 
because it's insecure.  I'll take a look at it later.  It's not that 
pressing since it's only on my wifes machine! :)


Jake Vickers wrote:

Philip wrote:

Maxwell
try testing the authentification with a telnet session
from your windows box, if that works you can pin point the issue to 
your mail client


if you dont know how to test it via telnet
use this nice tut :
http://qmail.jms1.net/test-auth.shtml



There is a more boiled-down one on the wiki:
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_use_telnet_for_diagnostics 




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Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Maxwell Smart
OK, that did it.  It answers to port 587 but not 25.  My guess is that 
SBC is blocking port 25.  I will change the port on my wifes system and 
see what happens.  I just checked, and see that my desktop is set to use 
port 587.


Many thanks,

CJ

Maxwell Smart wrote:
Doh!  I don't know why I thought I had to have Telnet running on the 
server.  Thanks Eric.  That's what happens when you have too many 
balls in the air.


I can see clearly now, my brain is gone

CJ

Eric Shubert wrote:

You don't have to have telnet on the server. It's a client app. You can
# telnet mailhost 25
to any email transport server, so long as there is connectivity.

(Perhaps you're thinking of ssh??)

Maxwell Smart wrote:
I know how to use telnet, but I don't activate it on my servers 
because it's insecure.  I'll take a look at it later.  It's not that 
pressing since it's only on my wifes machine! :)


Jake Vickers wrote:

Philip wrote:

Maxwell
try testing the authentification with a telnet session
from your windows box, if that works you can pin point the issue 
to your mail client


if you dont know how to test it via telnet
use this nice tut :
http://qmail.jms1.net/test-auth.shtml



There is a more boiled-down one on the wiki:
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_use_telnet_for_diagnostics 




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[qmailtoaster] Thank You!

2009-08-19 Thread Tim Pleiman
Jake, Eric,

I just want to offer a big round of thanks for such an excellent Qmail
compilation. I've got it up and running now on two production servers and
it has been flawless.

Also, Jake, is there a not-for-profit Open Source project that you would
like me to donate to on your behalf? As a measure of my gratitude for the
excellence of compiling and maintaining this qmail distribution, I would
like to send a donation to them. My consulting practice services many
non-profit organizations at discount as well as donated capacities, so I
like to support those things which do good for community. Contact me
directly, please.

Aditionally, is the EZMLM digest option for this list turned on? I'm
finding it difficult to keep up with all the individual e-mail posts in my
inbox.

Thanks!
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Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Maxwell Smart

Eric,

The wiki doesn't explain authentication.

maxw...@nicolette:~ telnet mail.yother.com 587
Trying 64.168.70.133...
Connected to mail.yother.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 Welcome to the Machine ESMTP
HELO ME
250 Welcome to the Machine
MAIL FROM c...@yother.com
503 AUTH first (#5.5.1)

What goes here?

CJ

Eric Shubert wrote:

You don't have to have telnet on the server. It's a client app. You can
# telnet mailhost 25
to any email transport server, so long as there is connectivity.

(Perhaps you're thinking of ssh??)

Maxwell Smart wrote:
I know how to use telnet, but I don't activate it on my servers 
because it's insecure.  I'll take a look at it later.  It's not that 
pressing since it's only on my wifes machine! :)


Jake Vickers wrote:

Philip wrote:

Maxwell
try testing the authentification with a telnet session
from your windows box, if that works you can pin point the issue to 
your mail client


if you dont know how to test it via telnet
use this nice tut :
http://qmail.jms1.net/test-auth.shtml



There is a more boiled-down one on the wiki:
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_use_telnet_for_diagnostics 




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Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert
Nice (Pink Floyd). You might want to leave the toaster string (Welcome 
to Qmail Toaster Ver. 1.3) in there though. It helps bots that do 
surveys count your server as a Qmail Toaster (which helps all of us).


There are various pages on the web about testing auth with telnet. If we 
don't have it on the wiki yet, google for it, learn it, then add it to 
the wiki. TLS is particularly tricky because you need to encode what you 
send. There's a web site that'll do the encoding for you though, and you 
can simply cut'n'paste it.


Maxwell Smart wrote:

Eric,

The wiki doesn't explain authentication.

maxw...@nicolette:~ telnet mail.yother.com 587
Trying 64.168.70.133...
Connected to mail.yother.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 Welcome to the Machine ESMTP
HELO ME
250 Welcome to the Machine
MAIL FROM c...@yother.com
503 AUTH first (#5.5.1)

What goes here?

CJ

Eric Shubert wrote:

You don't have to have telnet on the server. It's a client app. You can
# telnet mailhost 25
to any email transport server, so long as there is connectivity.

(Perhaps you're thinking of ssh??)

Maxwell Smart wrote:
I know how to use telnet, but I don't activate it on my servers 
because it's insecure.  I'll take a look at it later.  It's not that 
pressing since it's only on my wifes machine! :)


Jake Vickers wrote:

Philip wrote:

Maxwell
try testing the authentification with a telnet session
from your windows box, if that works you can pin point the issue to 
your mail client


if you dont know how to test it via telnet
use this nice tut :
http://qmail.jms1.net/test-auth.shtml



There is a more boiled-down one on the wiki:
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_use_telnet_for_diagnostics 




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Thank You!

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert
Thanks for the kind words Tim. Would you care to make a note of your 
toaster experience on the wiki? 
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Main_Page#Affirmations

We'd all appreciate it.

Tim Pleiman wrote:

Jake, Eric,

I just want to offer a big round of thanks for such an excellent Qmail
compilation. I've got it up and running now on two production servers and
it has been flawless.

Also, Jake, is there a not-for-profit Open Source project that you would
like me to donate to on your behalf? As a measure of my gratitude for the
excellence of compiling and maintaining this qmail distribution, I would
like to send a donation to them. My consulting practice services many
non-profit organizations at discount as well as donated capacities, so I
like to support those things which do good for community. Contact me
directly, please.

Aditionally, is the EZMLM digest option for this list turned on? I'm
finding it difficult to keep up with all the individual e-mail posts in my
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Thanks!
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Re: [qmailtoaster] authentication

2009-08-19 Thread Maxwell Smart

Eric,

I'll change the string back.  Anything to support the toaster. 

I'll get off my duff and walk into my other room with my Qmail book and 
find the Telnet section.   I used to remember all this, but don't need 
it enough.  That's a testament to how well the toaster works.


Cheers,

CJ

Eric Shubert wrote:
Nice (Pink Floyd). You might want to leave the toaster string (Welcome 
to Qmail Toaster Ver. 1.3) in there though. It helps bots that do 
surveys count your server as a Qmail Toaster (which helps all of us).


There are various pages on the web about testing auth with telnet. If 
we don't have it on the wiki yet, google for it, learn it, then add it 
to the wiki. TLS is particularly tricky because you need to encode 
what you send. There's a web site that'll do the encoding for you 
though, and you can simply cut'n'paste it.


Maxwell Smart wrote:

Eric,

The wiki doesn't explain authentication.

maxw...@nicolette:~ telnet mail.yother.com 587
Trying 64.168.70.133...
Connected to mail.yother.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 Welcome to the Machine ESMTP
HELO ME
250 Welcome to the Machine
MAIL FROM c...@yother.com
503 AUTH first (#5.5.1)

What goes here?

CJ

Eric Shubert wrote:

You don't have to have telnet on the server. It's a client app. You can
# telnet mailhost 25
to any email transport server, so long as there is connectivity.

(Perhaps you're thinking of ssh??)

Maxwell Smart wrote:
I know how to use telnet, but I don't activate it on my servers 
because it's insecure.  I'll take a look at it later.  It's not 
that pressing since it's only on my wifes machine! :)


Jake Vickers wrote:

Philip wrote:

Maxwell
try testing the authentification with a telnet session
from your windows box, if that works you can pin point the issue 
to your mail client


if you dont know how to test it via telnet
use this nice tut :
http://qmail.jms1.net/test-auth.shtml



There is a more boiled-down one on the wiki:
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/How_to_use_telnet_for_diagnostics 




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Thank You!

2009-08-19 Thread Jake Vickers

Tim Pleiman wrote:

Jake, Eric,

I just want to offer a big round of thanks for such an excellent Qmail
compilation. I've got it up and running now on two production servers and
it has been flawless.

Also, Jake, is there a not-for-profit Open Source project that you would
like me to donate to on your behalf? As a measure of my gratitude for the
excellence of compiling and maintaining this qmail distribution, I would
like to send a donation to them. My consulting practice services many
non-profit organizations at discount as well as donated capacities, so I
like to support those things which do good for community. Contact me
directly, please.

Aditionally, is the EZMLM digest option for this list turned on? I'm
finding it difficult to keep up with all the individual e-mail posts in my
inbox.

Thanks!
Tim
  



Glad you enjoyed it!
Hmm. OSS projects for donations I've donated to vim in the past, but 
I'd like to hear from the rest of the community as to what other 
projects you would choose.

Thanks!
The digest should be functional for the list - I've honestly never 
tested it. The list has been a little busy the last couple days, but 
normally it's pretty slow. I know some others use some list services to 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Thank You!

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert

Jake Vickers wrote:

Tim Pleiman wrote:

Jake, Eric,

I just want to offer a big round of thanks for such an excellent Qmail
compilation. I've got it up and running now on two production servers and
it has been flawless.

Also, Jake, is there a not-for-profit Open Source project that you would
like me to donate to on your behalf? As a measure of my gratitude for the
excellence of compiling and maintaining this qmail distribution, I would
like to send a donation to them. My consulting practice services many
non-profit organizations at discount as well as donated capacities, so I
like to support those things which do good for community. Contact me
directly, please.

Aditionally, is the EZMLM digest option for this list turned on? I'm
finding it difficult to keep up with all the individual e-mail posts 
in my

inbox.

Thanks!
Tim
  



Glad you enjoyed it!
Hmm. OSS projects for donations I've donated to vim in the past, but 
I'd like to hear from the rest of the community as to what other 
projects you would choose.

Thanks!


http://www.nten.org/ looks worthy to me. I don't know much about it 
though, just found it with google.


The digest should be functional for the list - I've honestly never 
tested it. The list has been a little busy the last couple days, but 
normally it's pretty slow. I know some others use some list services to 
read them online, such as gmane.org. I do not use them myself, but 
perhaps others can suggest a decent one to use.


I use gmane.org with Thunderbird, and like it very much. No more list 
emails (except a couple).


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Thank You!

2009-08-19 Thread Steve Huff


On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Jake Vickers wrote:

OSS projects for donations I've donated to vim in the past, but  
I'd like to hear from the rest of the community as to what other  
projects you would choose.



SpamAssassin and/or spamdyke, no question.

also, as a bit of a dark horse candidate, i suggest CACert.org,  
without whom i'd need to buy SSL certificates from some horrible  
commercial CA.  i recommend that anyone who is currently using a self- 
signed cert look at CACert.org and consider joining the web of trust.


-steve

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Thank You!

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert

Steve Huff wrote:


On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Jake Vickers wrote:

OSS projects for donations I've donated to vim in the past, but 
I'd like to hear from the rest of the community as to what other 
projects you would choose.



SpamAssassin and/or spamdyke, no question.

also, as a bit of a dark horse candidate, i suggest CACert.org, 
without whom i'd need to buy SSL certificates from some horrible 
commercial CA.  i recommend that anyone who is currently using a 
self-signed cert look at CACert.org and consider joining the web of trust.


-steve



Sam @ spamdyke doesn't take donations (what a guy!).
I use CACert.org as well. I'm good with that one.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Thank You!

2009-08-19 Thread Phil Leinhauser


 Steve Huff wrote:

 On Aug 19, 2009, at
1:59 PM, Jake Vickers wrote:

 OSS projects
for donations I've donated to vim in the past, but

I'd like to hear from the rest of the community as to what other
 projects you would choose.


 SpamAssassin and/or spamdyke, no question.

 also, as a bit of a dark horse candidate, i suggest
CACert.org,
 without whom i'd need to buy SSL certificates
from some horrible
 commercial CA.  i recommend that anyone
who is currently using a
 self-signed cert look at CACert.org
and consider joining the web of
 trust.

 -steve

 
 Sam @ spamdyke
doesn't take donations (what a guy!).
 I use CACert.org as well.
I'm good with that one.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] vpopmail upgrade

2009-08-19 Thread amit IKF
Dear All,
I want a copy of all incoming and outgoing emails for a domain. With few
replies long time back, I had created a taps file in /var/qmail/control.
The value in tap file is *...@mydomain.com:a...@mydomain.com

Restarted qmail service. But its not working. Can someone tell me where am i
wrong.

Thanks and regards,

Amit


[qmailtoaster] Auto Bcc of Incoming and Outgoing Emails

2009-08-19 Thread amit IKF
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:40 AM, amit IKF a...@ikf.co.in wrote:

 Dear All,
 I want a copy of all incoming and outgoing emails for a domain. With few
 replies long time back, I had created a taps file in /var/qmail/control.
 The value in tap file is *...@mydomain.com:a...@mydomain.com

 Restarted qmail service. But its not working. Can someone tell me where am
 i wrong.

 Thanks and regards,

 Amit



RE: [qmailtoaster] vpopmail upgrade

2009-08-19 Thread Justice London
I'd kinda be hesitant to have an easy method for people to upgrade to this
release until it's in production. I foresee some just grabbing it and
building/installing. One thing I should mention is that I believe that the
quota issues are fixed in the current release on 64-bit OS versions. I
encountered some problems with quotas that were well above 2 gigs on the
production mail-server that were then mirrored on a 32-bit server.

I think the underlying issue with quotas is simply going to be a long
variable issue since it seemed to work fine under the 64-bit system.

Justice London
E-mail:  jlon...@lawinfo.com

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To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] vpopmail upgrade

Jake Vickers wrote:
 karpaha vinayaham wrote:
 Hi Eric

 This new release is really a good news, if its solves the quota limit 
 of 2GB per users.  if the new version solve this issues, i will be 
 testing this with my test machine.

 Can you guide me, how do i make the vpopmail-toaster rpm for my centos 
 5.3 with this new source file.

 Till now i followed the following procedure to upgrade any src package,
 
 Why don't you wait until it's stable and a package is released 
 officially here? From what Eric says, it will be 2-3 months before the 
 coding is even done, and then you have to content with bugs and bug 
 reports.
 Once the software is completed and stable, I will release an official 
 RPM for replacement.
 
Jake,
I think he's asking how he can help with the testing process. Yes it 
will be a few months before a stable (production) version is ready. In 
the meantime though, Matt can use all of the testers he can.

If you'd like to test, I believe that the sources are in an svn repo. 
Justice, can you lend a hand here? Perhaps we can come up with spec file 
that testers can use to roll their own rpms. Any takers for this?

I must repeat, that this is for TEST MACHINES ONLY. This is a warning 
for those of you who think they're going to run it on a live machine. 
Don't even go there. This is like alpha code, not even beta yet.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] vpopmail upgrade

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert

Justice London wrote:

I'd kinda be hesitant to have an easy method for people to upgrade to this
release until it's in production. I foresee some just grabbing it and
building/installing.


Good point. Perhaps we can put in a few preventive measures. Like maybe 
require the test machine to not have spamassassin installed, then put a 
rule in the spec that says it conflicts with spamassassin. Would that be 
safe enough?


I really hate turning away people who want to test but aren't quite up 
to building their own rpms yet.



One thing I should mention is that I believe that the
quota issues are fixed in the current release on 64-bit OS versions. I
encountered some problems with quotas that were well above 2 gigs on the
production mail-server that were then mirrored on a 32-bit server.
I think the underlying issue with quotas is simply going to be a long
variable issue since it seemed to work fine under the 64-bit system.


That's undoubtedly a part of it. With 5.5 there is a daemon that 
monitors disk space, likely to support the domain limit feature. FWIW.


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[qmailtoaster] bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread kbusbee
Ok, having serious problems...

This morning I discovered that our email server was pegging out our T1.  I
have no idea why.  After a while things calmed down but now we are not able
to send out emails.  Local emails seem to work.   The remote queue is 175
and growing with each email.

I am so frustrated that I don't know where to begin.

The emails in the queue look ok.
I can not see anything strange in the logs.

I upgraded the email server over a week ago and it has been working fine.


Re: [qmailtoaster] bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Phil Leinhauser


Is it possible your provider is blocking port 25?

 Ok,
having serious problems...
 
 This morning I discovered
that our email server was pegging out our T1.  I
 have no idea
why.  After a while things calmed down but now we are not

able
 to send out emails.  Local emails seem to work.   The
remote queue is 175
 and growing with each email.
 
 I am so frustrated that I don't know where to begin.
 
 The emails in the queue look ok.
 I can not see anything
strange in the logs.
 
 I upgraded the email server over
a week ago and it has been working fine.



Re: [qmailtoaster] bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Maxwell Smart
Or you have been blacklisted because of excessively high unusual traffic?

Phil Leinhauser wrote:
 Is it possible your provider is blocking port 25?

  Ok, having serious problems...
 
  This morning I discovered that our email server was pegging out our
 T1. I
  have no idea why. After a while things calmed down but now we are not
  able
  to send out emails. Local emails seem to work. The remote queue is 175
  and growing with each email.
 
  I am so frustrated that I don't know where to begin.
 
  The emails in the queue look ok.
  I can not see anything strange in the logs.
 
  I upgraded the email server over a week ago and it has been working
 fine.
  

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Thank You!

2009-08-19 Thread Steve Huff


On Aug 19, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Phil Leinhauser wrote:

All that money on expensive certs I've spent!!!  That one works for  
me!



seriously :)

bear in mind, however, that the CAcert.org root certificates are not  
included by default in many major browsers, which means that users  
need to manually install them.  how is this an improvement over self- 
signed certs?  it's an improvement in that once a user installs the  
CAcert.org roots *once*, he then has secure access to *all* sites and  
services that use CAcert.org-issued certificates; the user (or, for a  
larger organization, the tech support staff) need to do the same  
amount of work, but the benefit is much greater.


if you're going to use CAcert.org-issued certs, i strongly recommend  
that you get yourself well-linked into the web of trust.  read this  
document (http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/FAQ/AssuranceIntroduction) to  
learn how to get your trust points up; if you can attend an assurance  
party, you can quickly pass the first milestone, and in addition you  
can visit your local Notary Public, have your identity verified and  
notarized, and send the paperwork off to CAcert.org in order to get a  
big chunk of points (they call this Trusted Third Party assurance).   
once you pass your first milestone of trust points, you can get  
certificates that last for two years rather than 6 months, this is a  
major convenience :)


in short: i can't in good conscience recommend that you use a cert  
from CAcert.org for a commercial service unless you have some other  
mechanism (e.g. tech support staff, or an autoinstaller, or something)  
for pushing out the root certs to your users' machines, not because of  
any concern about the security or trustworthiness of CAcert.org, but  
because people will see scary SSL warning and you may lose business.   
on the other hand, for any non-commercial purpose, they're *AWESOME*,  
and in addition to saving money, you're supporting an excellent cause.


-steve

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Auto Bcc of Incoming and Outgoing Emails

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert

amit IKF wrote:



On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:40 AM, amit IKF a...@ikf.co.in 
mailto:a...@ikf.co.in wrote:


Dear All,

I want a copy of all incoming and outgoing emails for a domain. With
few replies long time back, I had created a taps file in
/var/qmail/control. The value in tap file is
*...@mydomain.com:a...@mydomain.com mailto:a...@mydomain.com

Restarted qmail service. But its not working. Can someone tell me
where am i wrong.

Thanks and regards,

Amit 





I think you need to tap to a different domain name. Infinite loop sort 
of thing. ;)


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Thank You!

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert

Phil Leinhauser wrote:

  Steve Huff wrote:
 
  On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Jake Vickers wrote:
 
  OSS projects for donations I've donated to vim in the past, but
  I'd like to hear from the rest of the community as to what other
  projects you would choose.
 
 
  SpamAssassin and/or spamdyke, no question.
 
  also, as a bit of a dark horse candidate, i suggest CACert.org,
  without whom i'd need to buy SSL certificates from some horrible
  commercial CA. i recommend that anyone who is currently using a
  self-signed cert look at CACert.org and consider joining the web of
  trust.
 
  -steve
 
 
  Sam @ spamdyke doesn't take donations (what a guy!).
  I use CACert.org as well. I'm good with that one.
 
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WOW  I never knew about CACert before.  All that money on expensive 
certs I've spent!!!  That one works for me!


You should know, Phil, that CACert root certificates aren't generally 
recognized by the big browsers (yet), so they won't work out of the 
box. Clients still need to import the CACert root cert, but that's a 
lot easier than dealing with self signed certs.


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RE: [qmailtoaster] bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread David Burke
Are emails going at all or just very slowly?  Are the senders getting
bounce back messages? Here's a website you can look to see if your site
is blacklisted:  http://www.isipp.com/resources/am-i-blacklisted/

 

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From: kbusbee [mailto:kbus...@northlakechristian.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:29 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] bandwidth hog

 

Ok, having serious problems... 

This morning I discovered that our email server was pegging out our T1.
I have no idea why.  After a while things calmed down but now we are not
able to send out emails.  Local emails seem to work.   The remote queue
is 175 and growing with each email.  

I am so frustrated that I don't know where to begin.

The emails in the queue look ok.
I can not see anything strange in the logs.

I upgraded the email server over a week ago and it has been working
fine.



Re: [qmailtoaster] Auto Bcc of Incoming and Outgoing Emails

2009-08-19 Thread Jake Vickers

Eric Shubert wrote:

amit IKF wrote:



On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:40 AM, amit IKF a...@ikf.co.in 
mailto:a...@ikf.co.in wrote:


Dear All,

I want a copy of all incoming and outgoing emails for a domain. With
few replies long time back, I had created a taps file in
/var/qmail/control. The value in tap file is
*...@mydomain.com:a...@mydomain.com mailto:a...@mydomain.com

Restarted qmail service. But its not working. Can someone tell me
where am i wrong.

Thanks and regards,

Amit



I think you need to tap to a different domain name. Infinite loop sort 
of thing. ;)




I did a video on taps over at video.qmailtoaster.com
What Eric is saying is true. You have a circular loop:
It taps the mail from mydomain.com and sends a copy to a...@mydomain.com
The copy sent to a...@mydomain.com matches mydomain.com, so a copy is 
tapped and sent to a...@mydomain.com
The copy of the copy sent to a...@mydomain.com matches mydomain.com, so 
another copy goes to a...@mydomain.com
The copy of the copy of the copy sent to a...@mydomain.com matches 
[insert infinite loop here]


And to tap your whole domain, you need .* not just *


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Re: [qmailtoaster] bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Jake Vickers

kbusbee wrote:

Ok, having serious problems...

This morning I discovered that our email server was pegging out our 
T1.  I have no idea why.  After a while things calmed down but now we 
are not able to send out emails.  Local emails seem to work.   The 
remote queue is 175 and growing with each email. 


I am so frustrated that I don't know where to begin.

The emails in the queue look ok.
I can not see anything strange in the logs.

I upgraded the email server over a week ago and it has been working fine.


I tried to telnet to your norhtlake MX record and received no response 
on 25 after 60 seconds. If this is the domain in question, maybe a DNS 
issue?



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Auto Bcc of Incoming and Outgoing Emails

2009-08-19 Thread amit IKF
Hi Eric and Jake,Thanks a lot its done.

Regards,

Amit


On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Jake Vickers j...@qmailtoaster.com wrote:

 Eric Shubert wrote:

 amit IKF wrote:



 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:40 AM, amit IKF a...@ikf.co.in mailto:
 a...@ikf.co.in wrote:

Dear All,

I want a copy of all incoming and outgoing emails for a domain. With
few replies long time back, I had created a taps file in
/var/qmail/control. The value in tap file is
*...@mydomain.com:a...@mydomain.com mailto:a...@mydomain.com

Restarted qmail service. But its not working. Can someone tell me
where am i wrong.

Thanks and regards,

Amit


 I think you need to tap to a different domain name. Infinite loop sort of
 thing. ;)


 I did a video on taps over at video.qmailtoaster.com
 What Eric is saying is true. You have a circular loop:
 It taps the mail from mydomain.com and sends a copy to a...@mydomain.com
 The copy sent to a...@mydomain.com matches mydomain.com, so a copy is tapped
 and sent to a...@mydomain.com
 The copy of the copy sent to a...@mydomain.com matches mydomain.com, so
 another copy goes to a...@mydomain.com
 The copy of the copy of the copy sent to a...@mydomain.com matches
 [insert infinite loop here]

 And to tap your whole domain, you need .* not just *




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[qmailtoaster] bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread kbusbee
according to http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx I am not blacklisted.

My provider knows that I am hosting an email service and not blocking.


RE: [qmailtoaster] bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread David Burke
Have you checked internet connectivity on the toaster?

 

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From: kbus...@northlakechristian.org
[mailto:kbus...@northlakechristian.org] On Behalf Of kbusbee
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:12 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] bandwidth hog

 

according to http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx I am not
blacklisted.

My provider knows that I am hosting an email service and not blocking.



[qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Kent Busbee
Ok, forgive me b/c I am trying to go through gmail to get this out more
quickly

the queue is 200+ and growing.

I believe the emails are going out very slowly.  My first post was at 10:48
AM and did not show up until 2:29 PM.  Thanks for the testing/ help all.

My MX should be at northlakechristian.org  207.29.217.10

DNS could be an issue but dig and nslookup seems to work... how can I test
further?
I change one MS DC from primary to backup... but I don't think that should
have anything to do with it.




On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM, kbusbee kentbus...@gmail.com wrote:

 according to http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx I am not
 blacklisted.

 My provider knows that I am hosting an email service and not blocking.



RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Phil Leinhauser
What do you mean you changed a DC to backup?  Is DNS still on it?  Is that 
where you are getting dns from?  If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then DNS will 
be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.

-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee kbus...@northlakechristian.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:21 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

Ok, forgive me b/c I am trying to go through gmail to get this out more 
quickly 

the queue is 200+ and growing.

I believe the emails are going out very slowly.  My first post was at 10:48 AM 
and did not show up until 2:29 PM.  Thanks for the testing/ help all.

My MX should be at northlakechristian.org  207.29.217.10

DNS could be an issue but dig and nslookup seems to work... how can I test 
further?
I change one MS DC from primary to backup... but I don't think that should have 
anything to do with it.




On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM, kbusbee kentbus...@gmail.com wrote:
according to http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx I am not blacklisted.

My provider knows that I am hosting an email service and not blocking.



Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Jake Vickers

Kent Busbee wrote:
Ok, forgive me b/c I am trying to go through gmail to get this out 
more quickly


the queue is 200+ and growing.

I believe the emails are going out very slowly.  My first post was at 
10:48 AM and did not show up until 2:29 PM.  Thanks for the testing/ 
help all.


My MX should be at northlakechristian.org 
http://northlakechristian.org  207.29.217.10


DNS could be an issue but dig and nslookup seems to work... how can I 
test further?
I change one MS DC from primary to backup... but I don't think that 
should have anything to do with it.





On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM, kbusbee kentbus...@gmail.com 
mailto:kentbus...@gmail.com wrote:


according to http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx I am not
blacklisted.

My provider knows that I am hosting an email service and not blocking.




It seems to be speeding up now. I got ~8 seconds before getting a HELO 
reply.

I did get this when running a DNS report on your domain though:
*WARN* 	Glue at parent nameservers 	WARNING. The parent servers (I 
checked with d0.org.afilias-nst.org.) are not providing glue for all 
your nameservers. This means that they are supplying the NS records 
(host.example.com), but not supplying the A records (192.0.2.53), which 
can cause slightly slower connections, and may cause incompatibilities 
with some non-RFC-compliant programs. This is perfectly acceptable 
behavior per the RFCs. This will usually occur if your DNS servers are 
not in the same TLD as your domain (for example, a DNS server of 
ns1.example.*org* for the domain example.*com*). In this case, you 
can speed up the connections slightly by having NS records that are in 
the same TLD as your domain.





[qmailtoaster] bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Kent Busbee
Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more
efficiently.

DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my DNS.  I
am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and
growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world?
What should I check?


[qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Kent Busbee
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more efficiently.

 DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my DNS.  I am 
 sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

 The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and 
 growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world?  
 What should I check?

Phil Wrote:

What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that where 
you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then DNS will be 
flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
random web sites and they are resolved fine.

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Domnick Eger
That usually means Yahoo or another ISP is deferring your connection due to
reported abuse, or you have exceeded your allow connection in each session.
This is common with Yahoo, if it extend more then two days, your on there
Blacklist and have to get removed by feeling out the form on there website.
Also think about joining there feedback loop, so you can avoid these issues.
Your best bet is to find out why you got blocked and adjust your settings.

-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee [mailto:kbusb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:33 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Kent Busbeekbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more
efficiently.

 DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my DNS. 
I am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

 The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and
growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world? 
What should I check?

 Phil Wrote:

What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that
where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then DNS
will be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


 I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
 moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
 master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
 random web sites and they are resolved fine.


I am getting a lot of these in my send log:

08-19 16:28:02 delivery 1264: deferral:
Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMT
P_connection._(#4.4.1)/


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Domnick Eger
Also to add, use domain-keys, reverse dns, and DKIM, if possible, this will
eliminate delays in the sending of mail.

-Original Message-
From: Domnick Eger [mailto:de...@cobercafe.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:55 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

That usually means Yahoo or another ISP is deferring your connection due to
reported abuse, or you have exceeded your allow connection in each session.
This is common with Yahoo, if it extend more then two days, your on there
Blacklist and have to get removed by feeling out the form on there website.
Also think about joining there feedback loop, so you can avoid these issues.
Your best bet is to find out why you got blocked and adjust your settings.

-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee [mailto:kbusb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:33 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Kent Busbeekbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more
efficiently.

 DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my DNS. 
I am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

 The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and
growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world? 
What should I check?

 Phil Wrote:

What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that
where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then DNS
will be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


 I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
 moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
 master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
 random web sites and they are resolved fine.


I am getting a lot of these in my send log:

08-19 16:28:02 delivery 1264: deferral:
Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMT
P_connection._(#4.4.1)/


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[qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Kent Busbee
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Kent Busbeekbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more 
 efficiently.

 DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my DNS.  I 
 am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

 The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and 
 growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world?  
 What should I check?

 Phil Wrote:

What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that 
where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then DNS 
will be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


 I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
 moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
 master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
 random web sites and they are resolved fine.


I am getting a lot of these in my send log:

08-19 16:28:02 delivery 1264: deferral: Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMT
P_connection._(#4.4.1)/

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Phil Leinhauser
OK, moving any FSMO roles won't have anything to do with your problem then.
The Domain Naming master also doesn't have anything to do with DNS.  It's
the central manager for your own AD domain and nothing on the outside.  I
was concerned if you demoted a DC that you were getting DNS from.

Where is your toaster going for DNS lookups?  Do you have a local cache
(DJBDNS, tinydns)?  If so, is that pointing to the root servers for lookups
or are you forwarding lookups to another DNS?



-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee [mailto:kbusb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:21 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more
efficiently.

 DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my DNS.  I
am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

 The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and
growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world? 
What should I check?

Phil Wrote:

What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that
where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then DNS
will be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
random web sites and they are resolved fine.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Kent Busbee
[r...@mail ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf
search ncs-ad.northlakechristian.org
nameserver 192.168.1.5
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 192.168.1.254
nameserver 207.29.223.56
nameserver 207.29.223.58
[r...@mail ~]#

192.168.1.5 is my MS ncsw2k3 server

I don't think dns is the problem

It looks like I may have been hacked.  That would explain my mail
server pegging out the T1 and some domains blocking my emails out.  I
believe that it was my mail server b/c the network went back to normal
after unplugging the ethernet to the server.  How can I tell if I have
been hacked?  What can I do about it?

Does it make sense that some major sites blocking me would cause me
queue to fill up?  Should some emails get through? I noticed that an
email to this list is still in the queue.  Why did it not go through?
I am now using my gmail account to get through.

Oh, and the queue is now down to 138

Not a good day for me!

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Phil Leinhauserp...@teqknow.com wrote:
 OK, moving any FSMO roles won't have anything to do with your problem then.
 The Domain Naming master also doesn't have anything to do with DNS.  It's
 the central manager for your own AD domain and nothing on the outside.  I
 was concerned if you demoted a DC that you were getting DNS from.

 Where is your toaster going for DNS lookups?  Do you have a local cache
 (DJBDNS, tinydns)?  If so, is that pointing to the root servers for lookups
 or are you forwarding lookups to another DNS?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kent Busbee [mailto:kbusb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:21 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more
 efficiently.

 DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my DNS.  I
 am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

 The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and
 growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world?
 What should I check?

 Phil Wrote:

What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that
 where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then DNS
 will be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


 I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
 moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
 master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
 random web sites and they are resolved fine.

 
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[qmailtoaster] bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Kent Busbee
At about 5:40am CST something on my network pegged out the T1.  After much
pulling out of hair, to my shock, I discovered that it was the qmail
server.  As soon as we pulled out the ethernet from the switch to the mail
server the network was ok.

Now I am so frazzled that I don't know where to begin trying to figure out
what went wrong.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Here are some snips from my logs:

Send:
2009-08-19 05:31:48.549113500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60
2009-08-19 05:31:48.549118500 end msg 11175037
2009-08-19 05:39:41.758399500 new msg 11175037
2009-08-19 05:39:41.758405500 info msg 11175037: bytes 10767 from
qmailtoaster-list-return-2540-kbusbee=northlakechristian@qmailtoaster.com
qp 3257 uid 89
2009-08-19 05:39:41.766017500 starting delivery 17105: msg 11175037 to
local northlakechristian.org-kbus...@northlakechristian.org
2009-08-19 05:39:41.766035500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/60
2009-08-19 05:39:41.794251500 delivery 17105: success: did_0+0+1/
2009-08-19 05:39:41.794295500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60
2009-08-19 05:39:41.794300500 end msg 11175037
2009-08-19 06:12:25.496925500 new msg 11175037
2009-08-19 06:12:25.496931500 info msg 11175037: bytes 1386 from
anonym...@mail.northlakechristian.org qp 3758 uid 0
2009-08-19 06:12:25.503692500 starting delivery 17106: msg 11175037 to
remote r...@mail.northlakechristian.org
2009-08-19 06:12:25.503699500 status: local 0/10 remote 1/60
2009-08-19 06:13:18.973655500 delivery 17106: deferral:
CNAME_lookup_failed_temporarily._(#4.4.3)/
2009-08-19 06:13:18.973662500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60
2009-08-19 06:19:06.902007500 starting delivery 17107: msg 11175037 to
remote r...@mail.northlakechristian.org

SMTP:
08-19 05:36:13 tcpserver: status: 0/100
08-19 05:39:18 tcpserver: status: 1/100
08-19 05:39:18 tcpserver: pid 3238 from 216.81.238.95
08-19 05:39:18 tcpserver: ok 3238
mail.northlakechristian.org:192.168.1.8:25 :21
6.81.238.95::50329
08-19 05:39:25 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from
qmailtoaster-list-return-2540-kbusbe
e=northlakechristian@qmailtoaster.com:: remote
mail.qmailtoaster.com:unkno
wn:216.81.238.95 rcpt kbus...@northlakechristian.org : found existing
recipie
nt
08-19 05:39:25 policy_check: remote
qmailtoaster-list-return-2540-kbusbee=northl
akechristian@qmailtoaster.com - local kbus...@northlakechristian.org
(UNAUT
HENTICATED SENDER)
08-19 05:39:25 policy_check: policy allows transmission
08-19 05:39:25 spamdyke[3238]: ALLOWED from:
qmailtoaster-list-return-2540-kbusb
ee=northlakechristian@qmailtoaster.com to:
kbus...@northlakechristian.org or
igin_ip: 216.81.238.95 origin_rdns: mail.qmailtoaster.com auth: (unknown)
08-19 05:39:41 simscan:[3239]:CLEAN (-2.50/7.00):16.1175s:RE_
[qmailtoaster] tcp
rules:216.81.238.95:qmailtoaster-list-return-2540-kbusbee=northlakechristian.org
@qmailtoaster.com:kbus...@northlakechristian.org:
08-19 05:50:42 spamdyke[3238]: TIMEOUT from:
qmailtoaster-list-return-2540-kbusb
ee=northlakechristian@qmailtoaster.com to:
kbus...@northlakechristian.org or
igin_ip: 216.81.238.95 origin_rdns: mail.qmailtoaster.com auth: (unknown)
reason
: TIMEOUT

Submission:
08-18 22:32:32 tcpserver: status: 0/100
08-19 06:47:01 tcpserver: status: 1/100
08-19 06:47:01 tcpserver: pid 4222 from 127.0.0.1
08-19 06:47:01 tcpserver: ok 4222
mail.northlakechristian.org:127.0.0.1:587 :127
.0.0.1::50276
08-19 06:47:56 CHKUSER rejected sender: from
bel...@northlakechristian.org:beld
e...@northlakechristian.org: remote
mail.northlakechristian.org:unknown:127.0.0.
1 rcpt  : temporary DNS problem
08-19 06:47:57 tcpserver: end 4222 status 256
08-19 06:47:57 tcpserver: status: 0/100





Kent Busbee
Director of Technology
Northlake Christian School


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Kent Busbee
OK...

My queue is now down to 0.
I am writing from my server.  Let's hope this goes through.  What I need
to do is figure out what caused:

a) the server to eat all the bandwidth of our T1
b) what caused the queue to get so full and take so long to get out.



See response above; Kent Busbee wrote:
 [r...@mail ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf
 search ncs-ad.northlakechristian.org
 nameserver 192.168.1.5
 nameserver 127.0.0.1
 nameserver 192.168.1.254
 nameserver 207.29.223.56
 nameserver 207.29.223.58
 [r...@mail ~]#

 192.168.1.5 is my MS ncsw2k3 server

 I don't think dns is the problem

 It looks like I may have been hacked.  That would explain my mail
 server pegging out the T1 and some domains blocking my emails out.  I
 believe that it was my mail server b/c the network went back to normal
 after unplugging the ethernet to the server.  How can I tell if I have
 been hacked?  What can I do about it?

 Does it make sense that some major sites blocking me would cause me
 queue to fill up?  Should some emails get through? I noticed that an
 email to this list is still in the queue.  Why did it not go through?
 I am now using my gmail account to get through.

 Oh, and the queue is now down to 138

 Not a good day for me!

 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Phil Leinhauserp...@teqknow.com wrote:
 OK, moving any FSMO roles won't have anything to do with your problem
 then.
 The Domain Naming master also doesn't have anything to do with DNS.
  It's
 the central manager for your own AD domain and nothing on the outside.
  I
 was concerned if you demoted a DC that you were getting DNS from.

 Where is your toaster going for DNS lookups?  Do you have a local cache
 (DJBDNS, tinydns)?  If so, is that pointing to the root servers for
 lookups
 or are you forwarding lookups to another DNS?



 -Original Message-
 From: Kent Busbee [mailto:kbusb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:21 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more
 efficiently.

 DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my
 DNS.  I
 am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

 The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and
 growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world?
 What should I check?

 Phil Wrote:

What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that
 where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then
 DNS
 will be flakey if it runs at all.

Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


 I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
 moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
 master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
 random web sites and they are resolved fine.



Kent Busbee
Director of Technology
Northlake Christian School


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

2009-08-19 Thread Eric Shubert

I'm on it. I'll let Kent report back the results of our findings.

Kent Busbee wrote:

OK...

My queue is now down to 0.
I am writing from my server.  Let's hope this goes through.  What I need
to do is figure out what caused:

a) the server to eat all the bandwidth of our T1
b) what caused the queue to get so full and take so long to get out.



See response above; Kent Busbee wrote:

[r...@mail ~]# cat /etc/resolv.conf
search ncs-ad.northlakechristian.org
nameserver 192.168.1.5
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 192.168.1.254
nameserver 207.29.223.56
nameserver 207.29.223.58
[r...@mail ~]#

192.168.1.5 is my MS ncsw2k3 server

I don't think dns is the problem

It looks like I may have been hacked.  That would explain my mail
server pegging out the T1 and some domains blocking my emails out.  I
believe that it was my mail server b/c the network went back to normal
after unplugging the ethernet to the server.  How can I tell if I have
been hacked?  What can I do about it?

Does it make sense that some major sites blocking me would cause me
queue to fill up?  Should some emails get through? I noticed that an
email to this list is still in the queue.  Why did it not go through?
I am now using my gmail account to get through.

Oh, and the queue is now down to 138

Not a good day for me!

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Phil Leinhauserp...@teqknow.com wrote:

OK, moving any FSMO roles won't have anything to do with your problem
then.
The Domain Naming master also doesn't have anything to do with DNS.
 It's
the central manager for your own AD domain and nothing on the outside.
 I
was concerned if you demoted a DC that you were getting DNS from.

Where is your toaster going for DNS lookups?  Do you have a local cache
(DJBDNS, tinydns)?  If so, is that pointing to the root servers for
lookups
or are you forwarding lookups to another DNS?



-Original Message-
From: Kent Busbee [mailto:kbusb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:21 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: bandwidth hog

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Kent Busbee kbusb...@gmail.com wrote:

Ok, now I am subscribed in gmail and should be able to email more

efficiently.

DNS warn - I don't think it is that big a deal, and my ISP does my
DNS.  I

am sure he is on .com not .org, thus not the same TLD.

The problem at hand is getting these messages in the queue out 213 and

growing.  What is preventing the emails from going to the outside world?
What should I check?

Phil Wrote:


What do you mean you changed a DC to backup? Is DNS still on it? Is that

where you are getting dns from? If you removed AD from a DNS DC, then
DNS
will be flakey if it runs at all.


Try random browsing from the toaster and see how well DNS performs.


I mean that I moved the Operations Master roll on my MS w2k server and
moved it to my MS w2k3 server.  One of those rolls is Domain naming
master.  However, the DNS seems to be fine.  I pinged half a dozen
random web sites and they are resolved fine.




Kent Busbee
Director of Technology
Northlake Christian School




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