Re: [QUAD-L] Unidentified subject!
In a message dated 7/29/2009 3:23:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: probably BUT beware u'll probably get alot of spyware, pennies 4 x-number of searches, etc., etc. Eric W Rudd _c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) - Original Message - From: _e m treston_ (mailto:missl...@optonline.net) To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:42 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Unidentified subject! Is this serious? From: Angie Novak [mailto:scaryide...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:03 PM To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Subject: [QUAD-L] Unidentified subject! TO ALL TC SCS MEMBERS, I remember it was last year or so when somebody out there told me about GoodSearch.com. I don't remember the story anymore but it seems to me that I checked with national on it and, whatever happened, it fell by the wayside. Well now I've just heard about it again from Stephanie at our North Carolina chapter. SCS is signed up on it and it is available to us as an excellent source of fundraising. Here's the deal. GoodSearch.com is a search engine that pays money back to your designated charity every time you use it. So every time you do an internet search for something, use GoodSearch instead of Google or Yahoo or whatever. For every search you do they'll pay a penny or so to SCS. That may not sound like much but it will add up, if we use it! THIS IS A NO-BRAINER FOLKS!!! If you're looking stuff up on the internet you're using a search engine so just use the one that will help us fund a cure. It's simple to do. Go to _www.goodsearch.com_ (http://www.goodsearch.com/) . You'll see the search box and then you'll see the box to choose your charity. Type in Spinal Cord Society (open up your internet browser in another window and do this with me now), check to see it's the Fergus Falls SCS then click 'verify'. Now every time you go to GoodSearch, SCS will be preset and all you have to do is start your searches to make us some money. There is also an 'amount raised' button so you can see just how much money is being raised. This money gets sent right to Fergus Falls. You'll also see GoodShop.com right below that. Do your online shopping from there and it'll do the same thing to make even more money. AGAIN, THIS IS A NO-BRAINER! You can set GoodSearch as your home page, as a Favorite or download their toolbar or just their search box. All you have to do is just USE it. But don't stop there. Forward this to everyone on your address list who you think would be willing to help your cause out. We should be able to quickly get hundreds of people using this and it won't cost them a cent. Why wouldn't you, or they, want to do it? I don't care if you're searching for the best way to pick your nose, we should be using the heck out of this. It'll be easy enough to check with Fergus to make sure they're getting the money. If you don't want to do this, then all I can say is there is truly no hope for us. Mike **Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D9)
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
My personal thing: At one time the max dosage was 100-120 mg per 24 hour period because of the possible damage to the liver, in taking oral meds. Using the pump requires a lot less medication because the bachoflen doesn't pass thru the body system first. With the pump system, the meds go directly to the leison. When I see 300mg, I have to wonder not only the effects on the spasm, but potential damage to other parts and organs in your body. I can only speculate as I am not your doctor and I hope your doctor is monitoring your meds and their process. Best Wishes In a message dated 7/29/2009 6:57:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, quad...@gmail.com writes: I'm a little shocked at the 300. I take 80 mg of baclofen a day, but that is orally. The individuals I know who have a baclofen pump tell me it requires quite a bit less than when they were taking the medicine orally. Everyone reacts differently, but I never experienced fatigue from baclofen, then again I wasn't taking it in the quantities you are. The highest I ever went to was 160 mg a day. I still take quite a bit of medicine for spasms. Baclofen doesn't seem to be that effective for me, so I end up taking 75 mg of dantrolene a day and 5 mg diazepam (Valium) a day. I managed to reduce my intake of diazepam considerably over a 2 1/2 year period, but I have reached a plateau where reducing my medication would cause too many spasms. Definitely getting to see your doctor ASAP. Good luck, Q On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Veranda Escobar _vaescob...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:vaescob...@yahoo.com) wrote: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol **Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D9)
[QUAD-L] Anti-healthcare reform petition
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Re: [QUAD-L] Anti-healthcare reform petition
Please DON'T sign this petition. We NEED a single payer health care system. I urge everyone to do their research and you will find that EVERY other industrialized nation has single payer health care systems. I know people who live in Canada and receive excellent health care. They pity us for having such a poor and expensive health care system. Health care is a RIGHT not a privilege. Our educational system from kindergarten through 12 grade is free. Why not health care? The reason for all these scare tactics - no control, rationing, etc. - is because the drug companies and the for profit medical profession don't want to loose their HUGE profits. Dan At 12:23 PM 7/30/2009, Angie Novak said something that elicited my response: http://www.freeourhealthcarenow.com/ go to this web sight and sign the petitionit's your health care who do you want calling the shots... -- EMail sent via TIES WebMail -- Windows Live Hotmail®: Search, add, and share the webâs latest sports videos. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009cat=sportsCheck it out.
FW: [QUAD-L] Help! Suprapubic Cath keeps plugging
For two months I have been going to ER 911 for uncontrollable AD in the middle of the night. Sometimes my SP would be clogged with mucus and others with sediment, both produced by UTI's. Even irrigation would not clear the catheter. After three weeks on two antibiotics the problem appears resokved. Merrill _ From: Regina Fuller [mailto:lilroamin...@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:45 AM To: ahuesing...@yahoo.com; quad-list Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Help! Suprapubic Cath keeps plugging Whether its a supra pubic or not sounds like you might need to irrigate and flush out the sediment and mucus, but also might want to get some antibiotics. You can flush with water and vinegar and do it till it comes clean You should be irrigating whenever you start getting to much junk in the tube, but at least couple times a week.. Or you might have some infection thats why the stediment and mucus is clogging it. Regina Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and No one can know what they can do until they try. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, ahuesing...@yahoo.com ahuesing...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ahuesing...@yahoo.com ahuesing...@yahoo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Help! Suprapubic Cath keeps plugging To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 6:08 PM I hope someone can help me, I have a supra-pubic catheter and it keeps plugging up. Mainly it seems to be mucus, but sometimes it gritty stuff. I've heard of pills to acidify the urine and flushing with things like Renacedin (sp?). What works best for you guys? Please help
Fw: [QUAD-L] Anti-healthcare reform petition
Hi guys I am from New-Brunswick, Canada and I have to admit that since my accident in 2003, that left me Quadriplegic, I got to thank the health care system that we have in this country because I don't know where I would be, probably on the street. Now, since I've seen the documentary by Michael Moore, Sicko, I've realized how poor the health care system in United Sates was, I was shock because one of the Richest country in the world can't even afford a proper health care for their own people, that's really sad. The thing is, the government don't give a damn, because they have the same attitude for years, the rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer. Well, I got to admit that I'm not American and it affects me big time to see that, specially in 2009 so the only advice I can tell is to Fight, Fight and continue to Fight for your right because it is the people that needs care that are affected by this not the healthy people working for the government with an annual income of $80,000 a year. Well, I think I made my point, hehe, but I really hope something good will result in all of this. Yannik Anglehart From: Dan Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:15 PM To: Angie Novak ; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Anti-healthcare reform petition Please DON'T sign this petition. We NEED a single payer health care system. I urge everyone to do their research and you will find that EVERY other industrialized nation has single payer health care systems. I know people who live in Canada and receive excellent health care. They pity us for having such a poor and expensive health care system. Health care is a RIGHT not a privilege. Our educational system from kindergarten through 12 grade is free. Why not health care? The reason for all these scare tactics - no control, rationing, etc. - is because the drug companies and the for profit medical profession don't want to loose their HUGE profits. Dan At 12:23 PM 7/30/2009, Angie Novak said something that elicited my response: http://www.freeourhealthcarenow.com/ go to this web sight and sign the petitionit's your health care who do you want calling the shots... -- EMail sent via TIES WebMail -- Windows LiveT Hotmail®: Search, add, and share the webâ??Ts latest sports videos. Check it out.
Re: [QUAD-L] Anti-healthcare reform petition
Yeah, our system is a train wreck. Did Mr. Moore have a solution? Canada's system needs America so they don't have to purchase equipment. I noticed when Mr. Moore finished his movie he didn't run to Canada for a checkup. When he had chest pains he went by ambulance to an American Hospital so an American nurse held his hand while he farted. I'm a socialist. I know America needs to fix a lot of things. But I'm also American. I have seen our system close up and Michael Moore lied by ommission. He told half truths and half lies. Unlike an honest liar, this means Mr. Moore has lost the truth or never knew what it was. If Mr. Moore only came to America to gripe and complain about a nation where he is a guest can you please take him back. He is a rude slob that should target morbid obesity in his next insult flick. It is a topic he knows something about. BW, john P S I'm sure you would feel pissed off if an American director made a movie about how Canada sells monopolies to Debeers, the annual kill the baby seals contests, or just arial views of where strip mines and lumber companies have destroyed huge sections of your nations natural beauty. From: Yannik Anglehart yanni...@hotmail.com To: Quad List quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:03:16 PM Subject: Fw: [QUAD-L] Anti-healthcare reform petition Hi guys I am from New-Brunswick, Canada and I have to admit that since my accident in 2003, that left me Quadriplegic, I got to thank the health care system that we have in this country because I don't know where I would be, probably on the street. Now, since I've seen the documentary by Michael Moore, Sicko, I've realized how poor the health care system in United Sates was, I was shock because one of the Richest country in the world can't even afford a proper health care for their own people, that's really sad. The thing is, the government don't give a damn, because they have the same attitude for years, the rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer. Well, I got to admit that I'm not American and it affects me big time to see that, specially in 2009 so the only advice I can tell is to Fight, Fight and continue to Fight for your right because it is the people that needs care that are affected by this not the healthy people working for the government with an annual income of $80,000 a year. Well, I think I made my point, hehe, but I really hope something good will result in all of this. Yannik Anglehart From: Dan Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:15 PM To: Angie Novak ; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Anti-healthcare reform petition Please DON'T sign this petition. We NEED a single payer health care system. I urge everyone to do their research and you will find that EVERY other industrialized nation has single payer health care systems. I know people who live in Canada and receive excellent health care. They pity us for having such a poor and expensive health care system. Health care is a RIGHT not a privilege. Our educational system from kindergarten through 12 grade is free. Why not health care? The reason for all these scare tactics - no control, rationing, etc. - is because the drug companies and the for profit medical profession don't want to loose their HUGE profits. Dan At 12:23 PM 7/30/2009, Angie Novak said something that elicited my response: http://www.freeourhealthcarenow.com/ go to this web sight and sign the petitionit's your health care who do you want calling the shots... EMail sent via TIES WebMail Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Search, add, and share the web ™s latest sports videos. Check it out.
Re: [QUAD-L] Anti-healthcare reform petition
Laughing so hard I could pee. Nice going John. I won't add a thing. Best Wishes In a message dated 7/30/2009 2:43:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, alcibiat...@yahoo.com writes: Yeah, our system is a train wreck. Did Mr. Moore have a solution? Canada's system needs America so they don't have to purchase equipment. I noticed when Mr. Moore finished his movie he didn't run to Canada for a checkup. When he had chest pains he went by ambulance to an American Hospital so an American nurse held his hand while he farted. I'm a socialist. I know America needs to fix a lot of things. But I'm also American. I have seen our system close up and Michael Moore lied by ommission. He told half truths and half lies. Unlike an honest liar, this means Mr. Moore has lost the truth or never knew what it was. If Mr. Moore only came to America to gripe and complain about a nation where he is a guest can you please take him back. He is a rude slob that should target morbid obesity in his next insult flick. It is a topic he knows something about. BW, john P S I'm sure you would feel pissed off if an American director made a movie about how Canada sells monopolies to Debeers, the annual kill the baby seals contests, or just arial views of where strip mines and lumber companies have destroyed huge sections of your nations natural beauty. From: Yannik Anglehart yanni...@hotmail.com To: Quad List quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:03:16 PM Subject: Fw: [QUAD-L] Anti-healthcare reform petition Hi guys I am from New-Brunswick, Canada and I have to admit that since my accident in 2003, that left me Quadriplegic, I got to thank the health care system that we have in this country because I don't know where I would be, probably on the street. Now, since I've seen the documentary by Michael Moore, Sicko, I've realized how poor the health care system in United Sates was, I was shock because one of the Richest country in the world can't even afford a proper health care for their own people, that's really sad. The thing is, the government don't give a damn, because they have the same attitude for years, the rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer. Well, I got to admit that I'm not American and it affects me big time to see that, specially in 2009 so the only advice I can tell is to Fight, Fight and continue to Fight for your right because it is the people that needs care that are affected by this not the healthy people working for the government with an annual income of $80,000 a year. Well, I think I made my point, hehe, but I really hope something good will result in all of this. Yannik Anglehart From: _Dan_ (mailto:d...@unh.edu) Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:15 PM To: _Angie Novak_ (mailto:scaryide...@yahoo.com) ; _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Anti-healthcare reform petition Please DON'T sign this petition. We NEED a single payer health care system. I urge everyone to do their research and you will find that EVERY other industrialized nation has single payer health care systems. I know people who live in Canada and receive excellent health care. They pity us for having such a poor and expensive health care system. Health care is a RIGHT not a privilege. Our educational system from kindergarten through 12 grade is free. Why not health care? The reason for all these scare tactics - no control, rationing, etc. - is because the drug companies and the for profit medical profession don't want to loose their HUGE profits. Dan At 12:23 PM 7/30/2009, Angie Novak said something that elicited my response: http://www.freeourhealthcarenow.com/ go to this web sight and sign the petitionit's your health care who do you want calling the shots... EMail sent via TIES WebMail Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Search, add, and share the web ™s latest sports videos. _Check it out._ (http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009cat=sports) **Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D9)
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
amen On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:02 AM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: My personal thing: At one time the max dosage was 100-120 mg per 24 hour period because of the possible damage to the liver, in taking oral meds. Using the pump requires a lot less medication because the bachoflen doesn't pass thru the body system first. With the pump system, the meds go directly to the leison. When I see 300mg, I have to wonder not only the effects on the spasm, but potential damage to other parts and organs in your body. I can only speculate as I am not your doctor and I hope your doctor is monitoring your meds and their process. Best Wishes In a message dated 7/29/2009 6:57:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, quad...@gmail.com writes: I'm a little shocked at the 300. I take 80 mg of baclofen a day, but that is orally. The individuals I know who have a baclofen pump tell me it requires quite a bit less than when they were taking the medicine orally. Everyone reacts differently, but I never experienced fatigue from baclofen, then again I wasn't taking it in the quantities you are. The highest I ever went to was 160 mg a day. I still take quite a bit of medicine for spasms. Baclofen doesn't seem to be that effective for me, so I end up taking 75 mg of dantrolene a day and 5 mg diazepam (Valium) a day. I managed to reduce my intake of diazepam considerably over a 2 1/2 year period, but I have reached a plateau where reducing my medication would cause too many spasms. Definitely getting to see your doctor ASAP. Good luck, Q On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Veranda Escobar vaescob...@yahoo.comwrote: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol -- Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to Schoolhttp://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D9
Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Help! Suprapubic Cath keeps plugging
do you have anyone they can do an emergency catheter change? This is what I'd do if I am unable to clear the catheter by irrigation. Also we try kneading the catheter to see if we can get some of that mucus and grit to move down the catheter. There are those occasions, however, when even this doesn't work. The VA gave me a Tumie (spelling?) Syringe so I could have someone try to break through the mucus. It's not always successful, but it does work better than normal irrigation. Just thought I'd pass on what worked for me when I was having a problem. I'm glad your problems seem to have been eliminated. Quadius On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Merrill merril...@cox.net wrote: For two months I have been going to ER 911 for uncontrollable AD in the middle of the night. Sometimes my SP would be clogged with mucus and others with sediment, both produced by UTI’s. Even irrigation would not clear the catheter. After three weeks on two antibiotics the problem appears resokved. Merrill -- *From:* Regina Fuller [mailto:lilroamin...@verizon.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:45 AM *To:* ahuesing...@yahoo.com; quad-list *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Help! Suprapubic Cath keeps plugging Whether its a supra pubic or not sounds like you might need to irrigate and flush out the sediment and mucus, but also might want to get some antibiotics. You can flush with water and vinegar and do it till it comes clean You should be irrigating whenever you start getting to much junk in the tube, but at least couple times a week.. Or you might have some infection thats why the stediment and mucus is clogging it. Regina Life's greatest accomplishments are those that at first seem impossible and No one can know what they can do until they try. --- On *Mon, 7/27/09, ahuesing...@yahoo.com ahuesing...@yahoo.com*wrote: From: ahuesing...@yahoo.com ahuesing...@yahoo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Help! Suprapubic Cath keeps plugging To: quad-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 6:08 PM I hope someone can help me, I have a supra-pubic catheter and it keeps plugging up. Mainly it seems to be mucus, but sometimes it gritty stuff. I've heard of pills to acidify the urine and flushing with things like Renacedin (sp?). What works best for you guys? Please help
Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] Anti-healthcare reform petition
John definitely has a point about Michael Moore's documentaries. He could have made even more phenomenal documentaries if he would've included more of the negatives of each system. They all have some. Just ask the English, Canadians, Germans, and anyone else. I know some people won't agree with this, but the best health care system in the United States is the VA. There are some points where it is extremely lacking, especially in psychiatric care, but overall it does much better in polling and health care outcomes. The only thing I would add to your point is the for-profit insurance companies are also a big reason why we don't have proper health care in this country. It is in their best interest to pay off the politicians in order to stymie any health care reform. One thing I'm going to be complaining about if they don't have a single-payer option is the actual naming of the bill. Will it be health insurance reform or health care reform? That is the real question. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Yannik Anglehart yanni...@hotmail.comwrote: Hi guys I am from New-Brunswick, Canada and I have to admit that since my accident in 2003, that left me Quadriplegic, I got to thank the health care system that we have in this country because I don't know where I would be, probably on the street. Now, since I've seen the documentary by Michael Moore, Sicko, I've realized how poor the health care system in United Sates was, I was shock because one of the Richest country in the world can't even afford a proper health care for their own people, that's really sad. The thing is, the government don't give a damn, because they have the same attitude for years, the rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer. Well, I got to admit that I'm not American and it affects me big time to see that, specially in 2009 so the only advice I can tell is to Fight, Fight and continue to Fight for your right because it is the people that needs care that are affected by this not the healthy people working for the government with an annual income of $80,000 a year. Well, I think I made my point, hehe, but I really hope something good will result in all of this. Yannik Anglehart *From:* Dan d...@unh.edu *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:15 PM *To:* Angie Novak scaryide...@yahoo.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Anti-healthcare reform petition Please DON'T sign this petition. We NEED a single payer health care system. I urge everyone to do their research and you will find that EVERY other industrialized nation has single payer health care systems. I know people who live in Canada and receive excellent health care. They pity us for having such a poor and expensive health care system. Health care is a RIGHT not a privilege. Our educational system from kindergarten through 12 grade is free. Why not health care? The reason for all these scare tactics - no control, rationing, etc. - is because the drug companies and the for profit medical profession don't want to loose their HUGE profits. Dan At 12:23 PM 7/30/2009, Angie Novak said something that elicited my response: http://www.freeourhealthcarenow.com/ go to this web sight and sign the petitionit's your health care who do you want calling the shots... -- EMail sent via TIES WebMail -- Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Search, add, and share the web ™s latest sports videos. Check it out.http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009cat=sports
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
- Original Message - From: Paul Pacera To: Steve Oldaker Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I take 150mg of Bachlofen daily(30mg 5xdaily),also 4mg of Zanaflex 3x daily.It has been 10yrs.I do not get tired.Paul - Original Message - From: Steve Oldaker To: 'Quadius' ; 'Veranda Escobar' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I've taken 120mg daily (30mg 4x daily) orally for 21 years per SCI MDs direction, though FDA advises 80mg daily as the maximum dosage. I've tried cutting back slowly several times, but anything below even 100mg daily has my legs spasming out of my shoes. 120mg works for me. 300mg daily sounds close to lethal. I don't know how one functions at all at that dosage let alone being sleepy. I hope you can work things out, Veranda. Steve - C4, 21 years From: Quadius [mailto:quad...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:57 PM To: Veranda Escobar Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I'm a little shocked at the 300. I take 80 mg of baclofen a day, but that is orally. The individuals I know who have a baclofen pump tell me it requires quite a bit less than when they were taking the medicine orally. Everyone reacts differently, but I never experienced fatigue from baclofen, then again I wasn't taking it in the quantities you are. The highest I ever went to was 160 mg a day. I still take quite a bit of medicine for spasms. Baclofen doesn't seem to be that effective for me, so I end up taking 75 mg of dantrolene a day and 5 mg diazepam (Valium) a day. I managed to reduce my intake of diazepam considerably over a 2 1/2 year period, but I have reached a plateau where reducing my medication would cause too many spasms. Definitely getting to see your doctor ASAP. Good luck, Q On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Veranda Escobar vaescob...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.35/2271 - Release Date: 07/29/09 18:07:00
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
Thanks Paul. Do you have your liver ultrasound every two years too? Best Wishes In a message dated 7/30/2009 6:02:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pau...@comcast.net writes: - Original Message - From: _Paul Pacera_ (mailto:pau...@comcast.net) To: _Steve Oldaker_ (mailto:steve.olda...@comcast.net) Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I take 150mg of Bachlofen daily(30mg 5xdaily),also 4mg of Zanaflex 3x daily.It has been 10yrs.I do not get tired.Paul - Original Message - From: _Steve Oldaker_ (mailto:steve.olda...@comcast.net) To: _'Quadius'_ (mailto:quad...@gmail.com) ; _'Veranda Escobar'_ (mailto:vaescob...@yahoo.com) Cc: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I've taken 120mg daily (30mg 4x daily) orally for 21 years per SCI MDs direction, though FDA advises 80mg daily as the maximum dosage. I've tried cutting back slowly several times, but anything below even 100mg daily has my legs spasming out of my shoes. 120mg works for me. 300mg daily sounds close to lethal. I don't know how one functions at all at that dosage let alone being sleepy. I hope you can work things out, Veranda. Steve - C4, 21 years From: Quadius [mailto:quad...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:57 PM To: Veranda Escobar Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I'm a little shocked at the 300. I take 80 mg of baclofen a day, but that is orally. The individuals I know who have a baclofen pump tell me it requires quite a bit less than when they were taking the medicine orally. Everyone reacts differently, but I never experienced fatigue from baclofen, then again I wasn't taking it in the quantities you are. The highest I ever went to was 160 mg a day. I still take quite a bit of medicine for spasms. Baclofen doesn't seem to be that effective for me, so I end up taking 75 mg of dantrolene a day and 5 mg diazepam (Valium) a day. I managed to reduce my intake of diazepam considerably over a 2 1/2 year period, but I have reached a plateau where reducing my medication would cause too many spasms. Definitely getting to see your doctor ASAP. Good luck, Q On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Veranda Escobar _vaescob...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:vaescob...@yahoo.com) wrote: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.35/2271 - Release Date: 07/29/09 18:07:00 **Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D9)
Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen
No I don't.Every three years. - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: pau...@comcast.net ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen Thanks Paul. Do you have your liver ultrasound every two years too? Best Wishes In a message dated 7/30/2009 6:02:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pau...@comcast.net writes: - Original Message - From: Paul Pacera To: Steve Oldaker Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I take 150mg of Bachlofen daily(30mg 5xdaily),also 4mg of Zanaflex 3x daily.It has been 10yrs.I do not get tired.Paul - Original Message - From: Steve Oldaker To: 'Quadius' ; 'Veranda Escobar' Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I've taken 120mg daily (30mg 4x daily) orally for 21 years per SCI MDs direction, though FDA advises 80mg daily as the maximum dosage. I've tried cutting back slowly several times, but anything below even 100mg daily has my legs spasming out of my shoes. 120mg works for me. 300mg daily sounds close to lethal. I don't know how one functions at all at that dosage let alone being sleepy. I hope you can work things out, Veranda. Steve - C4, 21 years From: Quadius [mailto:quad...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:57 PM To: Veranda Escobar Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 2 much bachoflen I'm a little shocked at the 300. I take 80 mg of baclofen a day, but that is orally. The individuals I know who have a baclofen pump tell me it requires quite a bit less than when they were taking the medicine orally. Everyone reacts differently, but I never experienced fatigue from baclofen, then again I wasn't taking it in the quantities you are. The highest I ever went to was 160 mg a day. I still take quite a bit of medicine for spasms. Baclofen doesn't seem to be that effective for me, so I end up taking 75 mg of dantrolene a day and 5 mg diazepam (Valium) a day. I managed to reduce my intake of diazepam considerably over a 2 1/2 year period, but I have reached a plateau where reducing my medication would cause too many spasms. Definitely getting to see your doctor ASAP. Good luck, Q On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Veranda Escobar vaescob...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello everyone, I wrote a few weeks back was telling everyone how i was having bad back pain,bad spasms, and drinching in sweat. The spams were so bad they were jerking me from sleep. Well i upgraded my pump on the 15th. For two days after that I was asleep. I could not pull myself from my sleep. I was really scared. Finally on 3rd day there was no more spams, no more sweating, and I was a wake. Since then my stomach was hurting. Well the pain went away last night after a week. But I am soo sleepy. What do you guys think? I was getting 280 dosage thru pump now i have 320. I'm so faustrated because if i go bk lower pump i'm scared toget spams sweats back. But i can't continue to be so sleepy. I wk a 40 job and i just want to be put my head down. Should i downgrade too 300.? I'm asking u guys cause we know more than the dr's lol No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.35/2271 - Release Date: 07/29/09 18:07:00 -- Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.37/2273 - Release Date: 07/30/09 18:09:00
