[QUAD-L] facebook

[donald scott]

 For anyone who is on the quad list that I'm not already friends with on 
facebook here is my facebook. https://www.facebook.com/donald.scott.332 Lets be 
friends. Send me a friends request.

Re: [QUAD-L] Interesting Legal Decision

[donald scott]

So how do we use this information to help us in our local area and in our lives?
  From: Jim Lubin <jlu...@eskimo.com>
 To: donald scott <rollingl...@yahoo.com> 
Cc: Eric Olson <whee...@wi.rr.com>; Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
 Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 4:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Interesting Legal Decision
   
found it
https://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documents/opinions/16D0367P.pdf

On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 1:21 PM, donald scott <rollingl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

WOW, That is kind of a big deal. Who has more information about the decision 
and how do we go about enforcing it? I live with my caregiver and we go most 
places together. So is it saying that the PCA gets in free basically 
everywhere? Where it says restaurants and bars it can't mean free food and 
drinks right?
Thanks, DonNorwalk, CA. C5-C6

  From: Eric Olson <whee...@wi.rr.com>
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 11:27 AM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Interesting Legal Decision
  
  Caregivers should get in free but I don't ever see that happening.  Maybe if 
more people start legal action, something will come of it.
  
 On 6/27/2016 1:46 PM, Don Price wrote:
  
  On May 6, 2016, after three years of litigation, a Title III federal court 
case that held that a paid PCA could not be required to pay an admission fee to 
a "public accommodation" when the PCA was working with a PWD.  The defendant, 
the Franklin Institute, did not appeal so it is a final order.     The legal 
reasoning applies to all Title III entities as the ADA defines them below:  
“(7) Public accommodation: The following private entities are considered public 
accommodations for purposes of this subchapter, if the operations of such 
entities affect commerce—  (A) an inn, hotel, motel, or other place of lodging, 
except for an establishment located within a building that contains not more 
than five rooms for rent or hire and that is actually occupied by the 
proprietor of such establishment as the residence of such proprietor; (B) a 
restaurant, bar, or other establishment serving food or drink; (C) a motion 
picture house, theater, concert hall, stadium, or other place of exhibition or 
entertainment; (D) an auditorium, convention center, lecture hall, or other 
place of public gathering; (E) a bakery, grocery store, clothing store, 
hardware store, shopping center, or other sales or rental establishment; (F) a 
laundromat, dry-cleaner, bank, barber shop, beauty shop, travel service, shoe 
repair service, funeral parlor, gas station, office of an accountant or lawyer, 
pharmacy, insurance office, professional office of a health care provider, 
hospital, or other service establishment; (G) a terminal, depot, or other 
station used for specified public transportation; (H) a museum, library, 
gallery, or other place of public display or collection; (I) a park, zoo, 
amusement park, or other place of recreation; (J) a nursery, elementary, 
secondary, undergraduate, or postgraduate private school, or other place of 
education; (K) a day care center, senior citizen center, homeless shelter, food 
bank, adoption agency, or other social service center establishment; and (L) a 
gymnasium, health spa, bowling alley, golf course, or other place of exercise 
or recreation.”    This makes sense to me because a person with a 
disability who requires a caregiver to be with them is essentially charged 
double to enter a museum/restaurant/zoo etc.  
   Don.  Tempe, AZ  C5-6   
 
 


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Re: [QUAD-L] Interesting Legal Decision

[donald scott]

WOW, That is kind of a big deal. Who has more information about the decision 
and how do we go about enforcing it? I live with my caregiver and we go most 
places together. So is it saying that the PCA gets in free basically 
everywhere? Where it says restaurants and bars it can't mean free food and 
drinks right?
Thanks, DonNorwalk, CA. C5-C6

  From: Eric Olson 
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 11:27 AM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Interesting Legal Decision
   
  Caregivers should get in free but I don't ever see that happening.  Maybe if 
more people start legal action, something will come of it.
  
 On 6/27/2016 1:46 PM, Don Price wrote:
  
  On May 6, 2016, after three years of litigation, a Title III federal court 
case that held that a paid PCA could not be required to pay an admission fee to 
a "public accommodation" when the PCA was working with a PWD.  The defendant, 
the Franklin Institute, did not appeal so it is a final order.     The legal 
reasoning applies to all Title III entities as the ADA defines them below:  
“(7) Public accommodation: The following private entities are considered public 
accommodations for purposes of this subchapter, if the operations of such 
entities affect commerce—  (A) an inn, hotel, motel, or other place of lodging, 
except for an establishment located within a building that contains not more 
than five rooms for rent or hire and that is actually occupied by the 
proprietor of such establishment as the residence of such proprietor; (B) a 
restaurant, bar, or other establishment serving food or drink; (C) a motion 
picture house, theater, concert hall, stadium, or other place of exhibition or 
entertainment; (D) an auditorium, convention center, lecture hall, or other 
place of public gathering; (E) a bakery, grocery store, clothing store, 
hardware store, shopping center, or other sales or rental establishment; (F) a 
laundromat, dry-cleaner, bank, barber shop, beauty shop, travel service, shoe 
repair service, funeral parlor, gas station, office of an accountant or lawyer, 
pharmacy, insurance office, professional office of a health care provider, 
hospital, or other service establishment; (G) a terminal, depot, or other 
station used for specified public transportation; (H) a museum, library, 
gallery, or other place of public display or collection; (I) a park, zoo, 
amusement park, or other place of recreation; (J) a nursery, elementary, 
secondary, undergraduate, or postgraduate private school, or other place of 
education; (K) a day care center, senior citizen center, homeless shelter, food 
bank, adoption agency, or other social service center establishment; and (L) a 
gymnasium, health spa, bowling alley, golf course, or other place of exercise 
or recreation.”    This makes sense to me because a person with a 
disability who requires a caregiver to be with them is essentially charged 
double to enter a museum/restaurant/zoo etc.  
   Don.  Tempe, AZ  C5-6   
 
 


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Re: [QUAD-L] Look out! An idea!

[donald scott]

https://www.facebook.com/donald.scott.332
  From: Danny Espinoza 
 To: diannal...@aol.com; lwillis82...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 1:06 PM
 Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Look out! An idea!
   
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From: diannal...@aol.com [mailto:diannal...@aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:39 AM
To: lwillis82...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Look out! An idea!  Dianna Lawson, Berea, Ohio

-Original Message-
From: RONALD L PRACHT 
To: Quad-list Post 
Sent: Sat, Nov 14, 2015 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Look out! An idea!Im Ron M Pracht in St. 
Louis..add away, but no refunds.    On Saturday, November 14, 2015 8:32 
PM, Gmail  wrote:  I'm Bobbie Humphreys in 
Parsippany, New Jersey 

Smile Everyday
> On Nov 14, 2015, at 3:52 PM, Larry Willis  wrote:
> 
> Who on the ol' list has a Facebook page? How about we share addresses etc so 
> we can share pics etc. I assume name and address are all that is needed. Here 
> is mine. William Larry Willis, Campbellsville, KY. If this is a bogus idea, 
> say forget it Willis.
> 
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
>   

  

[QUAD-L] Closer to a cure?

[donald scott]

 check out this article. 
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/british-doctors-on-brink-of-cure-for-paralysis-9807010.html

[QUAD-L] Close to a cure?

[donald scott]

 Check out this article. 
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/british-doctors-on-brink-of-cure-for-paralysis-9807010.html

Re: [QUAD-L] we made it!

[donald scott]

I'm in the Los Angeles area and it's 80 here today. Even though I'm spoiled 
with warm winters in my area I'm still like the rest of you and hate winter. 
But at least it's bearable here and never stops me from going out. I've been a 
quad for 24 years and one thing I highly recommend is moving to a warm state. 
Think California, Texas, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico. Being cold and 
miserable a few months out of the year is no way to live.
 I looked into a few financial areas of each of these states for a quadriplegic 
and found California offers the most benefits. If your unemployed and on Social 
Security you get Higher Social Security and SSI payment than most states. 
Medicare and Medical pays for all Hospital, Meds, Supplies, and Wheelchairs. 
Free In Home Supportive Services for caregiver. Lastly Section 8 housing.
So come to California all of my fellow quad's. The door is open and it's warm 
outside...lol
   From: linda...@comcast.net linda...@comcast.net
 To: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net 
Cc: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 2:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] we made it!
   
Yes hooray! Yesterday 40's, I sat outside on my patio for 2 hrs with just a 
sweatshirt  jeans on. I turned a little pink on my face, yeah! Today we had 
snow flurries coming home from church.
Lindaf


From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 9:24:42 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] we made it!

Well guys, we have just about made it through another winter! Im so tired of 
the heaters, freezing, 3 shirts and all that jazz. Its time to get your 
batteries and tires serviced so you can get out there to the parks and enjoy 
things again. Haha Ive made through my 17th winter as a quad! Put some miles on 
your chairs.
Ron getting jiggy in the STL.Tempurpedic comes tomorrow


  

Re: [QUAD-L] Cold Weather

[donald scott]

I too am a sun junkie. I'm in the Loa Angeles area and it's great weather. I 
have a killer spot on my patio to sit and warm up. I hate the AC in summer. I 
get cold so fast then back outside to warm up. I luv the warmth of my van in 
the winter. I go for drives just to use the heater. Being cold SUCKS!
Happy Holidays
   From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
 To: g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Cold Weather
   
Smiling.  Can you imagine those surviving in Canada and Upper USA.  Sticking 
your tongue to a flag pole will get you immediate attention.  Quads playing 
outdoors, wearing only a long sleeve sweater, enjoying the cold... UNTIL 
they freeze and head indoors. to warm the body and then go out and play 
again.  Life in the Winter North. Best Wishes In a message dated 12/18/2014 
12:07:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, g...@eskimo.com writes:


I don't know how you cold wether guys can do it every day.
I was from Seattle and that was bad enough. Now I'm spoiled in AZ.
Even our cold times it's usually sunny. But, now and then we get a few rainy 
days.
I get so tight, sore, and cold, on those days and my arms tingle 100x worse.
I'm wrapped up and no matter how warm I get, I just can not relax unless I get 
sun.
I think I'm physically and mentally addicted to the sun.
During the day, on the times I'm not outside, I have a hard time doing anything 
for too long without having to go out and sit in it for at least a little 
while. It relaxes  my muscles and I feel a lot better, then I go back to 
whatever I was doing. Then just before sunset I have to go out and get my last 
fix of sun for the night. It works so much better than any pain killer or 
muscle relaxer medication.

Just don't think I could ever move away,
Greg



  

Re: [QUAD-L] Reclining?

[donald scott]

   I have been in my chair going on 24 years.  I have always used a reclining 
chair, never a tilt.  I like that my knees get bending during raises and better 
blood flow for legs. I try and recline once a hour as well and even more when 
I'm on my putr just chillin' at home, but just like last night I was at a 
amusement park and only did 1 raise in 5 hours. So sometimes I'm bad. I have 
always done 14 hours up and 10 hours in bed. I start on my back in bed and turn 
on my side about 4 hours into the night. I have heard many horror stories about 
air cushions so I have stuck with Jay1, Jay2, and now Jay3 mud cushions. I only 
wear blue  jeans. 

   I rarely have any breakdown with this routine. If when I go to bed and there 
is any redness or openness we put Silver Sulfadazine and a 2x2 gauze patch over 
it and then more cream at bed time, so twice a day with cream. If it continues 
to be open or red I start only doing 8 hours up and 16 hours down with same 
cream and more time on side. This will clear it all up within a week for me. 

   I know everyone has different reaction and situations but this has worked 
well for me SO FAR. As we age I think the skin breaks down and more issues will 
arise. I hope this information is helpful.

   Have some fun today,
   Donald C6 


On Sunday, November 2, 2014 10:21 AM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  


Nan, I don't understand...if they do a pressure mapping, then what happens or 
what can be changed then?? I use Roho going on 18 years now. thank you Dan H** 


On Sunday, November 2, 2014 12:06 PM, Nan nlg52...@yahoo.com wrote:
  


Bobbie,

Do you use a Roho?  I do and I've found that they lose air after a while.  This 
causes me to get sores - I've been sitting for so long my skin is incredibly 
fragile.  What I've learned is that when this happens, I need another pressure 
mapping.  Sometimes I have to fight to get one, but once I get it I can heal 
sores while in my chair.  Sometimes I have to recline for a week or so - watch 
TV, listen to music ... but once a sore starts to heal, I can start living 
again.
Have you had a pressure mapping recently?

Nan 
On Saturday, November 1, 2014 10:35 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com 
wrote:
  


I try to recline once an hour ... if I remember. I love to paint, and to put my 
brush down to recline takes the away the flow. And when I'm reading I would 
need to recline every chapter. 
I'm only up 7-8 hours and up one day then in 2-3 days
 for prevention.
November 7th I have an appointment to see a wound Doctor because I have a very 
small area stage 1 or less. 
I'm using DuoDerm extra thin.
But to tell you the truth, I'm sick and tired of needing to deal with all this 
shit.
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Nov 1, 2014, at 9:00 PM, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:
 
 How
 often do you recline your chair?
 I try to do it at leased every hour. I also am moving around a bit, bending
 forward a bit to read, etc.
 I doubt when I lean forward or sideways a bit, it is enough to move the 
 pressure on my butt.
 After my bad pressure sore, I try to recline more often, but when I get into 
 a good book, or am playing cribbage online on my Kindle, I can forget. I 
 often have gone many hours without reclining.
 Greg
 

Re: [QUAD-L] big, big birthday

[donald scott]

I'm 46 and was injured at 23. So I totally know the feeling. You just go WOW 
how fast time goes by. It's amazing how much we adapt to new challenges in life 
and eventually they just become the normal thing over time. Happy Birthday.

Donald 


On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:43 AM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:
  


Well people I made 38 today. Once I hit 42 I will have spent half my life on 
wheels. Get jiggy with it!

Ron

Re: [QUAD-L] 16 Years

[donald scott]

I too enjoy learning and sharing with the group. I say party and enjoy life 
like it's your last week on earth. Get out and do something, even if it's just 
a cruise around the block.

My 2 cents, Donald 23 years. 


On Monday, June 30, 2014 10:20 AM, Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com wrote:
  


In August I'll reach the 32 year mark.
I still celebrate [almost] every day I'm alive. So many things I still want to 
experience and accomplish!
I appreciate this quad-list and all of you amazing people on here. Best wishes 
to all of you on a happy life!

Don.
 


On Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:06 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:
  


Last couple years of been a little difficult for me, but I still try to treat 
every year as a
Wonderful year. I like to celebrate positive events in my
Instead of negative ones. For instance I celebrate the day I was able to get 
off the ventilator. Congratulations on your special day and may you have many 
more with wonderful memories.

On Friday, June 27, 2014, nichole rohling zoocr...@windstream.net wrote:

16 years ago today was my olympic dive that changed my life forever – time 
flies! 
 
Nicki
c5/6

Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] 16th

[donald scott]

Not to take anything away from all of the great things Mr. Reeve and his 
foundation has done. But it's a lot easier to do all of the things you 
mentioned Greg when you have a small fortune before you become paralyzed rather 
starting with a average life style.

Don 


On Saturday, June 28, 2014 1:58 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com wrote:
  


I agree with you, Greg. Chris Reeve left an amazing legacy. Very few of us will 
even come close to his accomplishments, SCI or not.

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:


Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
From: greg g...@eskimo.com
Date: June 28, 2014 at 3:15:24 PM EDT
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 16th


I agree with the Get busy living  part. But, I must defend Mr. Reeves. As a 
quad, he did more living than most non quads. He traveled the world, spoke to 
Congress, directed movies, etc. He did more as a quad than I've done in 50 
years. 

Yes he talked about a cure a lot, but he sure lived as a quad a lot. 
Greg

 
 Think of all the things that you can accomplish in the next 16 
 years.  Don't sit around listening to the Christopher Reeves of the 
 world I'm going to find a cure.  Get busy with living!   Go get 
 em'    
 
 Glenn Henry 

Re: [QUAD-L] looking for inter-enabled couples

[donald scott]

Hi Ben,

I might be able to help. I'm a c5 quad and been with same able-bodied woman for 
13 years. Hit us up if you want a interview.

Thanks, Donald c5 23 years post. 


On Friday, June 20, 2014 8:11 AM, wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com 
wrote:
  


I think this is a great idea Ben.  I seem to remember that New 
Mobility did the same thing 4-5 years ago with much success.  Good Luck 
with the project. 
Best Wishes 

In a message dated 6/19/2014 2:45:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
bmatt...@earthlink.net writes: 
Hi everyone  – 
For a book  about inter-enabled couples (long-term relationships in which 
one member has  a permanent disability and the other doesn't), I'm looking for 
sources to  interview by phone and/or email.  Ideally, both members of the  
relationship would participate, but at this point I'd be happy to interview  
individuals too, if necessary. 
  
Please note  that I'm a quad myself, though from a genetic neurological 
disability, not a  SCI, and I've been married to a nondisabled woman for 24 
years.  Issues I  hope to explore include: 
  
dating 
caregiving 
reactions from  your parents and friends 
dividing  household chores 
parenting 
aging and  changing health 
  
Thanks very  much in advance.  And please feel free to share this wherever  
appropriate.  I think there is a good book here, and so does my agent,  but I 
need to gather enough info to put together a solid pitch for  publishers. 
  
Best,
Ben 
  
__ 
BEN  MATTLIN
http://www.benmattlin.com/ 
http://www.miracleboygrowsup.com/ 
 

Re: [QUAD-L] drivers license renewel

[donald scott]

Congrats! I have to renew mine this year too. With all the freedom driving 
brings, I suggest to anyone with the means to buy a drivable van that they go 
for it. It really is life changing.

Donald c5/c6 


On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:57 AM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:
  


Hooray,
  I just got back from the DMV and my license is renewed until 2021. 
Hooray.one less thing to worry about.

Ron

Re: [QUAD-L] Music?

[donald scott]

That song is pretty Bad-A. Well done. I tried playing a steal guitar for a 
while but couldn't exactly pull it off. Maybe I'll try computer playing. Keep 
up the fun.

Donald c5-c6 


On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:28 PM, Danny Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co 
wrote:
  


I was screwing around with Acid the other 
morning and made this. I still have much to learn about song theory and 
song structure so I know its probably not great but its nice to know I 
can still make music even though I cant play guitar anymore...


https://soundcloud.com/danny-espinoza-3/1-5-21-2014?fb_action_ids=10152110454261724fb_action_types=soundcloud%3Apublishfb_source=aggregationfb_aggregation_id=288381481237582
 

[QUAD-L] SEMA Show Wheelchair van

[donald scott]

I went to Vegas this week for the SEMA Show. While looking around I found my 
friends van in the show. It really is a great van. I love the new paint job. If 
you go to my facebook page and look in my SEMA pictures you will see it. He has 
another link on cardomain.com and I will try to put a link to it. My van is 
also in my facebook photos and on cardomain.com. It's great to see vans 
customized by disabled people. My hospital put on a car show the last 2 years 
that had a dozen custom cars and vans in the show by disabled people. 
 
Take care, Donald
 
https://www.facebook.com/donald.scott.332
 
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3197112/2007-dodge-grand-caravan-passenger/
 
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3318536/1999-dodge-grand-caravan-passenger/

Re: [QUAD-L] Halloween Costume

[donald scott]

I have no problem with you using my idea. Let me know how it goes over. Have 
fun and happy Halloween.



On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:50 PM, Quadius quad...@gmail.com wrote:
  
I hope you don't mind if I borrow your idea. That's hilarious. I'm going to a 
party on Saturday and that sounds great.




On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:03 PM, donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com wrote:

Is anyone dressing up for Halloween or going out? I'm dressing up as a Zombie 
and putting a cardboard sign on my feet up to my knees that reads DISABLED 
ZOMBIE, PLEASE DONATE BRAINS. Then I'm going to the West Hollywood Carnaval. 
It's the biggest Halloween party. I went the last 4 years. 
http://www.visitwesthollywood.com/halloween-carnaval/event-information/

[QUAD-L] Halloween Costume

[donald scott]

Is anyone dressing up for Halloween or going out? I'm dressing up as a Zombie 
and putting a cardboard sign on my feet up to my knees that reads DISABLED 
ZOMBIE, PLEASE DONATE BRAINS. Then I'm going to the West Hollywood Carnaval. 
It's the biggest Halloween party. I went the last 4 years. 
http://www.visitwesthollywood.com/halloween-carnaval/event-information/

Re: [QUAD-L] Considering marriage, concerened about loosing disability

[donald scott]

Don't get married. Just live together and have a commitment ceremony with family



On , donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
Don't get married. Just live together and have a commitment ceremony with 
family.



On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:43 AM, Don Smith scamper2...@att.net wrote:
  
It depends on if it is ssdi payed on the 3rd of the month or ssi which is paid 
on the 1st.  when I was married I never lost my ssdi but did lose my small ssi 
medi cal and ihss once my wife started working.  Things may have changed 
though, it's best you check with your local social security office to be sure.

Don


 


 From: Shelly Kerchner shelly.kerch...@yahoo.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:22 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Considering marriage, concerened about loosing  disability
  


Hi to all!

Will I loose my disability if I get married? 

Thanks !!


Shelly
C6-c7 incomplete
6 years post injury

Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad 

Re: [QUAD-L] Spouse as Caregiver?

[donald scott]

Hi group,
 
I'm not comfortable saying much about my relationship status here because it 
doesn't just stay within the community and not end up on the web. I can say I 
have much experience in this area. Basically It comes down to no matter who 
cares for you be it a wife, parent, love one, or stranger do everything 
possible that you can do yourself. For the things you can't do yourself be 
patient, understanding, and grateful to those who are helping you. That doesn't 
mean you have to just let them do as they please with your care. Be clear with 
them what your full needs are. Be organized and make things go as easy as 
possible. IF AT ALL POSSIBLE GET OUTSIDE HELP. If you can pay someone else or 
get state help to do even small stuff, I think it's a great idea. Anything you 
can do to give your primary caregiver a break is recommended. Especially if 
it's someone you care about being in your life for a long time. If your in a 
dating or marriage situation and want it
 to last you must do as I said previously. As well as continually tell them how 
special and glad you are that they are willing to share all aspects of your 
life together. Being disabled means we have to work twice as hard to be 
romantic, sexually creative, and just plain nicer than normal people if we want 
love to last. Divert the care they have to do with fun, love, and laughs. Oh, 
and during your care periods try to keep things lite and fun when ever 
possible. When your together not doing quad and house stuff try really hard to 
make those times special. Those times can out way the quad times.
 
My 2 cents,
Donald C5-C6 22 years post 

Re: [QUAD-L] My next step?

[donald scott]

If you read under the video it says it took him 35 minutes to do it.
 


 From: Don Smith scamper2...@att.net
To: KK Batte kkba...@outlook.com; Tray P tray...@gmail.com; Lainie Batte 
lainieba...@yahoo.com; Steve Shepard shep0...@yahoo.com; 
ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com; ericba...@gmail.com 
ericba...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] My next step?
  


Id be warn out after all that, it looks like the video was sped up.


 


 From: KK Batte kkba...@outlook.com
To: Tray P tray...@gmail.com; Lainie Batte lainieba...@yahoo.com; Steve 
Shepard shep0...@yahoo.com; ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com 
ms-qu...@yahoogroups.com; ericba...@gmail.com ericba...@gmail.com; 
quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 9:38 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] My next step?
  


 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NokH2IHCUd4feature=em-uploademail

Yes Elizabeth this is another Chris, the quad video.  But please watch it  
help me figure this out.

He makes it look like it takes so little energy.  Is this really life using a 
lift?  Is it safe to use a lift when you are alone.  In other video's it looks 
like he will be hanging himself.

Life as a quad who is getting weaker by the day.

KK

Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal

[donald scott]

I'm in California and have had my license for about 7 years. I had a regular 
license before my injury and it expired years later. When I got a van I could 
drive I applied for a new license. They did make me go through a few extra 
steps like a driving evaluation from a hospital and a DMV interview. After 
getting the ok I took the regular written and drivers test and passed with a 
100 on both test. Since then I have only been pulled over once for running a 
stop sign and the cop looked at me and said Have a good day and let me go. I 
have also been in one accident that was deemed not my fault. My insurance 
didn't screw me or raise my rates. All of my repairs were fixed and I pay a 
average insurance rate. My license does have a restriction on it that says I 
must drive with hand controls. That is my experience so far with driving. I too 
will be renewing my license this year and I'm not sure if it will automatically 
renew or if I'll be tested again. But
 for the independence it gives me I'll do what ever I need too. I hope this 
helped in some way.
 
Best wishes, Donald C5-C6 23 years post  
 


 From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal
  


Some States are allowed to use one's driver's license as a Federal ID, for 
example, for flying and voting.  If you present your new driver's license 
without a restriction and its challenged.  Your insurance company knows of 
your physical conditions and limitations, I hope.  It could be most 
embarrassing, should your license be flagged after all these years.  I hope 
for you the best. 

Best Wishes 

In a message dated 9/4/2013 10:37:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: 
Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake  the 
drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only  a 
fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or  
have any of those troubles, its your driving record that 
counts..leave this alone. 
  
Ron Pracht  

 


From: Todd Daugherty  todd.daughe...@gmail.com
To: quad list  quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32  AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Driver  license renewal
 

  
I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with  no 
restrictions.  I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my  license, 
even for the years that I was using hand controls.  

 
Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this  question... 

* Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing  problems, 
musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function  problems?


 
So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will  
trigger?  Another driving test?  

 
Todd 
C-6inc

Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal

[donald scott]

I wanted to add that my insurance company is aware of the fact that I drive 
from my wheelchair and I have several modification to my van. They said all is 
covered under my normal rate of payment. When I had my accident they proved it 
by repairing my van instead of just writing it off as a salvage loss. Due to 
all the money spent on modifications my van is worth more than the regular van 
of the same year. They paid close to 6,000 in repairs to the front end. 
Allstate is my insurance.
 


 From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal
  


I'm in California and have had my license for about 7 years. I had a regular 
license before my injury and it expired years later. When I got a van I could 
drive I applied for a new license. They did make me go through a few extra 
steps like a driving evaluation from a hospital and a DMV interview. After 
getting the ok I took the regular written and drivers test and passed with a 
100 on both test. Since then I have only been pulled over once for running a 
stop sign and the cop looked at me and said Have a good day and let me go. I 
have also been in one accident that was deemed not my fault. My insurance 
didn't screw me or raise my rates. All of my repairs were fixed and I pay a 
average insurance rate. My license does have a restriction on it that says I 
must drive with hand controls. That is my experience so far with driving. I too 
will be renewing my license this year and I'm not sure if it will automatically 
renew or if I'll be tested again. But
 for the independence it gives me I'll do what ever I need too. I hope this 
helped in some way.
 
Best wishes, Donald C5-C6 23 years post  
 


 From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driver license renewal
  


Some States are allowed to use one's driver's license as a Federal ID, for 
example, for flying and voting.  If you present your new driver's license 
without a restriction and its challenged.  Your insurance company knows of 
your physical conditions and limitations, I hope.  It could be most 
embarrassing, should your license be flagged after all these years.  I hope 
for you the best. 

Best Wishes 

In a message dated 9/4/2013 10:37:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: 
Dont check any of those boxes. Its going to make you have to retake  the 
drivers test, raise your insurance and make your life more difficult. Only  a 
fool would open that pandoras box. No body cares if you use hand controls or  
have any of those troubles, its your driving record that 
counts..leave this alone. 
  
Ron Pracht  

 


From: Todd Daugherty  todd.daughe...@gmail.com
To: quad list  quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:32  AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Driver  license renewal
 

  
I got my drivers license on my 16th birthday, just a regular class C with  no 
restrictions.  I was injured at 17, but never made any changes to my  license, 
even for the years that I was using hand controls.  

 
Recently I went to change the address online and ran across this  question... 

* Have you ever had seizures, fainting, heart trouble, hearing  problems, 
musculoskeletal performance problems, or respiratory function  problems?


 
So my question is when I say yes to this, what do you all think this will  
trigger?  Another driving test?  

 
Todd 
C-6inc

[QUAD-L] Paralyzed US Swimmer Banned

[donald scott]

Check this story out gang. 
http://gma.yahoo.com/paralyzed-us-swimmer-banned-paralympics-031631386--abc-news-health.html?vp=1

Re: [QUAD-L] Rejoyce - hand device

[donald scott]

Any extra movement will increase your balance and strength. As far as it making 
your hands start to work it's bull crap in my opinion. I see no proof of finger 
movement or new muscles in the arm working.
 
My 2 cents, Donald
 


 From: William Willis lwillis82...@msn.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:40 AM
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] Rejoyce -  hand device
  


 
I thought it sounded a bit fishy. Thanks, Greg.




From: g...@eskimo.com
To: pjacob...@san.rr.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:35:16 -0700
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Rejoyce -  hand device

 
I read the article and thought it sounded quite cool. So I searched for on the 
web and found a YouTube video about it. It's nothing like what the article 
says. The ReJoyce Hand and Arm Rehabilitation System is basically an exercise 
machine. It's like a 4 foot long plastic elbow shaped device. The one end of it 
the paralyzed person holds onto as good as they can, the other end is attached 
to the table and connected to a computer. The elbow joint let it move in all 
directions. So as you move around it moves the cursor on the computer. So you 
move it around playing a game on the computer. It helps with exercise, balance, 
and coordination. At least the one I saw does not actually open and close your 
hand. It looks like it could be a home exercise machine. It might actually help 
with balance and coordination. But not the miracle device that open and close 
at hand. 
Greg 

 

 



 Anyone know about this? 
 http://www.apparelyzed.com/forums/topic/11978-device-stimulates- 
 paralyzed-hands-arms-to-move- 
 again/http://www.apparelyzed.com/forums/topic/11978-device- 
 stimulates-paralyzed-hands-arms-to-move-again/  

Re: [QUAD-L] Rejoyce - hand device

[donald scott]

The h200 is a nice expensive toy, but I still don't see anyone with no movement 
in the hands suddenly having the use of fingers or hands. Technology hasn't 
made it yet for us. Maybe some day. 
C5-6 Donald
 


 From: Aaron Mann aman...@gmail.com
To: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com 
Cc: William Willis lwillis82...@msn.com; quad-list@eskimo.com 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Rejoyce - hand device
  


Check this one out: 
http://www.bioness.com/H200_for_Hand_Paralysis/How_Does_It_Work.php



Aaron Mann


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:58 PM, donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com wrote:

Any extra movement will increase your balance and strength. As far as it making 
your hands start to work it's bull crap in my opinion. I see no proof of finger 
movement or new muscles in the arm working. 
  
My 2 cents, Donald 

 
From: William Willis lwillis82...@msn.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:40 AM
Subject: FW: [QUAD-L] Rejoyce - hand device
 


I thought it sounded a bit fishy. Thanks, Greg.

 
From: g...@eskimo.com
To: pjacob...@san.rr.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:35:16 -0700
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Rejoyce - hand device


I read the article and thought it sounded quite cool. So I searched for on the 
web and found a YouTube video about it. It's nothing like what the article 
says. The ReJoyce Hand and Arm Rehabilitation System is basically an exercise 
machine. It's like a 4 foot long plastic elbow shaped device. The one end of 
it the paralyzed person holds onto as good as they can, the other end is 
attached to the table and connected to a computer. The elbow joint let it move 
in all directions. So as you move around it moves the cursor on the computer. 
So you move it around playing a game on the computer. It helps with exercise, 
balance, and coordination. At least the one I saw does not actually open and 
close your hand. It looks like it could be a home exercise machine. It might 
actually help with balance and coordination. But not the miracle device that 
open and close at hand. 
Greg 

 

 



 Anyone know about this? 
 http://www.apparelyzed.com/forums/topic/11978-device-stimulates- 
 paralyzed-hands-arms-to-move- 
 again/http://www.apparelyzed.com/forums/topic/11978-device- 
 stimulates-paralyzed-hands-arms-to-move-again/

Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Road trip

[donald scott]

That sounds like a great trip. I too take a similar road trip every couple of 
years from Los Angeles, Ca. to Des Moines, Ia. to see relatives. I luv 
traveling by van. You see the country and so many interesting places on the 
way. It's a 3 day drive if you take your time and stop to see monument, parks, 
museums, and restaurants. I'm right there with you though, It's great to be 
home at the end.
 
Take care all, Donald  
 


 From: lwillis...@yahoo.com lwillis...@yahoo.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:30 AM
Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Road trip
  


Wow, Don, you have more gumption than I do. Congrats on a trip well done.

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:


Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
From: Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com
Date: August 11, 2013, 9:25:29 PM EDT
To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Road trip
Reply-To: Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com


Hi all,


I was away for a few weeks. I did an epic roadtrip from Arizona to Wisconsin 
and back. I do that trip every Summer [I live in AZ, my family is in WI], but 
I usually fly. This time I drove the entire 1,800 miles each way, with a 
caregiver along. 


I had lots of adventures, lots of observations, and a renewed appreciation for 
the size and beauty of the U.S. If you live in NM, TX panhandle, OK, MO, IL, 
WI, IA, or KS I passed your way. I waved!


Tonight I'll sleep in my own bed once again. Ahh no place like home!


Don
Tempe, AZ

Re: [QUAD-L] Top 5 things I hate about being a Quad

[donald scott]

My top 5 would be.
 
1. Worrying about current and future cuts in caregiver hours and 
Medicare/MediCal.
 
2. Not being able to make enough money to be comfortable.
 
3. Having to depending on others for life's routine crap.
 
4. Knowing how to do things like mechanical, electrical, construction, 
engineering, etc. and not being physically able to do it alone.
 
5. No more normal SEX...Along with other fun activities like off roading, 
camping, hiking, hunting, rollercoasters, etc.. 


 From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:58 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Top 5 things I hate about being a Quad
  




These are my top 5 things I hate about being a Quad.


1. Having someone else prepare food for YOU their way.

2. Getting up and in bed when your aid can make it, not when you wish to.

3. People telling me ... how lucky you are not to have to work.

4. Limited selection of clothing.

5. Aging and Quadrum.


Bobbie


Sent from my iPad

Re: [QUAD-L] Anniversary

[donald scott]

Congrats on hanging in for 47 years. The 70's and 80's must have been hardest.
 


 From: gah17...@aol.com gah17...@aol.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Anniversary
  


Today is my 47 anniversary (whoopie) of my accident.\ 

Did I miss out on things in life, yes!  Were doors opened for me 
that 
would not have opened if my accident had not occurred, definitely! 

I have had a good life and hope to post 48. 

But there are days life sucks 


Glenn Henry

G.A.Henry 
Radio
100 Mill Street
Washington Boro, PA 
17582

Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Movie's featuring Quadriplegics

[donald scott]

Christopher Reeve did a movie called Rear Window after his injury. Ironicly 2 
days before his injury a movie called Above Suspicion was released. He was also 
in it and he plays a paralyzed man . Above Suspicion was pretty good. 
 


 From: lwillis...@yahoo.com lwillis...@yahoo.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Movie's featuring Quadriplegics
  

An outstandingly good idea, Jim.

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:


Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
From: Jim Lubin jlu...@eskimo.com
Date: March 23, 2013, 9:57:52 PM EDT
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Movie's featuring Quadriplegics


I started a list on IMDB at http://www.imdb.com/list/2OTqiWRR9R8/



 

Re: [QUAD-L] BP

[donald scott]

The first thing you need to do is figure out the root cause of your hard stool. 
What is your diet like on a average day and what is your fluid intake? You may 
need to drink more water or maybe foods you like eating are causing the hard 
stool. Also look into your medications and see if any of them cause 
constipation. Some suggestions would be drink more water, avoid binding foods 
(find them online), take senna stool softners 2 times daily or more if needed, 
do bowel program at the same time daily or every other day, and lastly find a 
good suppository that works for you. I use magic bullet with a glycerine 
chaser. I have no problems.
 
Good luck,
Donald C6 22 years
 


 From: quadriple...@cox.net quadriple...@cox.net
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 1:27 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] BP
  
The last 2 weeks I've had such stomach pains. I've been pooping rocks and 
nothing has helped. I've tried Miralax, softeners, etc. I don't want to use too 
much, that hurts just as much. I keep using it more often, but I've never had 
to drink Miralax more than 2 times in a week. Then I can go months without it. 
I'm on my like 6th dose in 2 weeks. I want to double over in pain. G

Re: [QUAD-L] Fw: Don Price is Challenging You to Stock Car Challenge on ESPN.com

[donald scott]

Boogity Boogity, let's go racing boys. I'm in again Don. It's group Quad Rock 
Racing right Don? It say only 3 in group so far. Edale, quadracer, and me.
  


 From: Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com
To: quadlist quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:59 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Fw: Don Price is Challenging You to Stock Car Challenge on 
ESPN.com
  

For any of you who enjoy NASCAR, I'm inviting you to play in my free NASCAR 
league. It's easy and fun. Basically, each week you pick 5 drivers for your 
team and you earn points based on how the perform in that week's race. No 
expertise needed--it's better to be lucky than good.
 
We talk a lot of smack, so be forewarned. Hope some of you join me!!
Don.
 
- Forwarded Message -
From: donpric...@yahoo.com donpric...@yahoo.com
To: donpric...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:54 AM
Subject: Don Price is Challenging You to Stock Car Challenge on ESPN.com
 

This message is from Don Price who is challenging you to play Stock Car 
Challenge on ESPN.com.

This game challenges you to build a roster of five stock car drivers to compete 
each week. The amount of points a driver can earn for your entry is based on 
the Sprint Cup points they earn in each race. Best of all, it's FREE to play.

Get in the action now:
http://games.espn.go.com/stock-car-challenge/2013/en/?invitesource=emailinviteuser=NDI2NDUwODQ5Aex_cid=invite-email-stockcar
On mobile:
http://games.espn.go.com/stock-car-challenge/2013/en/m/?invitesource=emailinviteuser=NDI2NDUwODQ5Aex_cid=invite-email-stockcar

Re: [QUAD-L] Wound Care

[donald scott]

I use Thermazene Silver Sulfadiazine Cream 1% with a gauze patch over it in the 
morning when I get up and put cream again when I go to bed with no patch. Try 
to stay off it as much as possible while you have the pressure sore. This seems 
to work everytime for me after I get a sore. It takes about 3 weeks to get it 
cleared up. I do 14 hours a day on average in my chair. When I get a soar from 
a wrinkle or whatever I go down to 10 hours a day. Also I don't stay on my back 
all night, I get turned on my side about 4 hours into the night. I hope this 
info. helps.
 
Take care,
Donald C6 22 years post  


 From: Billy Lang blan...@verizon.net
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:03 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Wound Care
  
Got a pressure sore the size of a quarter on my ass. My pharmacy informed me 
that Regranex is not be manufactured anymore, And I have $100 co-pay for it. 
I'm using Hydrogel, but the wound needs something more effective before it 
starts Tunneling. 

Any suggestions? I heard natural bee honey works, anyone have experience with 
it?

Me Bum is causing lousy spasms.

Thanks.

Sent from Billy Lang's iPad

Re: [QUAD-L] Medical marijuana?

[donald scott]

I don't take the thc pills but I do smoke medical weed. My blood preasure has 
always been low do to being a quad. My doctor suggested I take sodium pills and 
add more salt to my diet. It helps the low preasure. Some times when I spark it 
up I get lightheaded but hey, who doesn't...hahaha
 
Blaze on,
Donald C6 22 years post
 


 From: ntpgrn...@aol.com ntpgrn...@aol.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:49 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Medical marijuana?
  

My son started to take the thc pills a few weeks ago and his bp has not been 
the same since. Anyone have the same problem? I didnt notice it as a side 
effect. Actually only taking one a day instead of three as prescribed.???

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[donald scott]

I'm sorry but the position your hand was in during your spinal injury has 
nothing to do with your hands curling. Your body naturally wants to curl up and 
twist from atrophy. I promise all quads that are c5 or c6 that letting your 
hands close into a fist will be the best thing for you. You will be way more 
independent and be able to do more. Most people think my hands look normal 
until I try to shake hands.
 
Be safe and independent,
Donald C5 22 years
 


 From: diannal...@aol.com diannal...@aol.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com; bobbie...@aol.com 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers
  

   
-Original Message-
From: diannal767 diannal...@aol.com
To: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers


i'd have to argue that theory given about 90% of quads have curled fingers. :-) 
dianna 
I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck. How about the rest of you. 
What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie 
-Original Message-
From: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com
To: kyparisi kypar...@hol.gr; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 2:34 pm
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers


I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck. How about the rest of you. 
What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie -Original 
Message-
From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 11:05 am
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are 
straight and flexible while 
others are curled and stiff?   Theo  From: Joan Anglin 
[mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net?]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers  It has never been 
any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and 
not curled up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but 
other than getting partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t 
changed at all in 22 years. I too never consider a cure for SCI for 
myself as I know that I am too old to be a viable candidate for any 
form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. At least this way I 
will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! J Have a great day 
everyone. Joan From: donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com?]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers  
I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my 
left hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a 
little pinch when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, 
write, ps2 with handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If 
your thinking about a cure for later don't worry they will make your 
hands open again. I personally never think about a cure and could 
careless at this point.
 
Take care all, Donald
 
From: bobbie...@aol.com lt;bobbie...@aol.comgt;
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 
2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers Mine have been locked closed like a fist 
since day on in the 1970s 
Nobody ever tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to 
have them curled up and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily 
along with any other tasks.    Bobbie -Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza lt;da...@immortaldesigns.cogt;
To: quad-list lt;quad-list@eskimo.comgt;
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers I was wondering what you guys do about your 
fingers… mine are becoming 
stiff and locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers 
again someday and was wondering if you guys could give me some 
information on how you keep your fingers in good health… right now my 
caregivers stretches them twice a day but its only getting worse and 
I’m getting worried…       

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[donald scott]

Oh contraire mon frère. I type 28 words a minute with just my onepinky nuckle. As far as sex goes, my thumbs work amazingly well and because my hands are closed I can grasp a dildo or vibrator very well. Trust me, closed hands work very well. Not to mention the ability to stroke my own luv stick...lolFrom: Paul Jacobson
 pjacob...@san.rr.com To: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com; diannal...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com  Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers   




Mine are straight, I’m ok with it...easier to type I would think.
And I can do stuff during naked timewith a girlthat
I imagine I can’t do if my fingers were curled.

Paul c5/6




From: donald scott 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:52 PM
To: diannal...@aol.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers



I'm sorry but the position your hand was in during your spinal injury 
has nothing to do with your hands curling. Your body naturally wants to curl up 
and twist from atrophy. I promise all quads that are 
c5 or c6 that letting your hands close into a fist will be the best thing for 
you. You will be way more independent and be able to do more. Most people think 
my hands look normal until I try to shake hands.

Be safe and independent,
Donald C5 22 years




From: "diannal...@aol.com" 
diannal...@aol.comTo: 
quad-list@eskimo.com; bobbie...@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:37 
PMSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
fingers





-Original 
Message-From: diannal767 diannal...@aol.comTo: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list 
quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 7:36 pmSubject: Re: 
[QUAD-L] fingers

i'd 
have to argue that theory given about 90% of quads have curled fingers. 
:-)
dianna

I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because "… the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay." I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie




-Original 
Message-From: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.comTo: kyparisi kypar...@hol.gr; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Mon, 
Jan 21, 2013 2:34 pmSubject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers
I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because "… the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay." I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie





-Original Message-
From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 11:05 am
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers

Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while 
others are curled and stiff? Theo From: Joan Anglin 
[mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net?]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers It has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and 
not curled up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but 
other than getting partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t 
changed at all in 22 years. I too never consider a cure for SCI for 
myself as I know that I am too old to be a viable candidate for any 
form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. At least this way I 
will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! J Have a great day 
everyone. Joan From: donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com?]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my 
left hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a 
little pinch when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, 
write, ps2 with handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If 
your thinking about a cure for later don't worry they will make your 
hands open again. I personally never think about a cure and could 
careless at this point. Take care all, Donald From: "bobbie...@aol.com" lt;bobbie...@aol.comgt;
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s 
Nobody ever tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to 
have them curled up and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily 
along with any other tasks. Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza lt;da...@immortaldesigns.cogt;
To: quad-list lt;quad-list@eskimo.comgt;
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fing

[QUAD-L] Speaking of Luv Stick (Gentlemen)

[donald scott]

Gentlemen of the quad list take note. For those of us capable of self 
exercising one's own luv stick I make this suggestion to you. Exercise it often 
or you will lose girth and length over time. Be cautious of not causing 
disroflexia. If your not all ready in a relationship you may be at some point 
and will want easy erections and the fullest possible size. Also if your 
wearing a external cath. and lose to much girth you may have a hard time 
finding a cath. size that fits. So stroke on my friends.
 
Donald
C5 22 Years

Re: [QUAD-L] Speaking of Luv Stick (Gentlemen)

[donald scott]

A fellow unnamed quad asked If that were to occur, any way of gaining it back? 
  Maybe a daily use of a penis pump?
 
According to my Urologist and all that I've read. There is no way to increase 
your penis size permanently after losing size. You can increase it temporarily 
from pumps or pills but it will never last. Bummer huh
 


 From: airgant...@aim.com airgant...@aim.com
To: rollingl...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Speaking of Luv Stick (Gentlemen)
  

If that were to occur, any way of gaining it back?   Maybe a daily use of a 
penis pump?
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jan 22, 2013 12:15 am
Subject: [QUAD-L] Speaking of Luv Stick (Gentlemen)


Gentlemen of the quad list take note. For those of us capable of self 
exercising one's own luv stick I make this suggestion to you. Exercise it often 
or you will lose girth and length over time. Be cautious of not causing 
disroflexia. If your not all ready in a relationship you may be at some point 
and will want easy erections and the fullest possible size. Also if your 
wearing a external cath. and lose to much girth you may have a hard time 
finding a cath. size that fits. So stroke on my friends. 

Donald 
C5 22 Years

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[donald scott]

I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my left hand 
(I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a little pinch when I 
twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, write, ps2 with handles, rc 
cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If your thinking about a cure for later 
don't worry they will make your hands open again. I personally never think 
about a cure and could careless at this point.
 
Take care all, Donald
 


 From: bobbie...@aol.com bobbie...@aol.com
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers
  
Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s Nobody ever 
tried to straighten them out ever. It has been an advantage to have them curled 
up and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily along with any other tasks.   
 Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming stiff 
and locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers again someday and 
was wondering if you guys could give me some information on how you keep your 
fingers in good health… right now my caregivers stretches them twice a day but 
its only getting worse and I’m getting worried…    

Re: [QUAD-L] Resume of Jesus Christ

[donald scott]

Please keep the quad-list free from religious opinions. This is not the right 
forum for anyones religious or non-religious beliefs.
 


 From: Ismael Cavazos ismael.cava...@att.net
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:21 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Resume of Jesus Christ
  
This is SIMPLY AWESOME! I've never seen this before! 

Whoever put The Resume of Jesus Christ together is surely 

a blessing to us all! Please share it! The last sentence says it all... 

Send this resume to everyone you know, you never know who 

may have an opening!    Powerful!      Have a blessed day!




                      The Resume of Jesus Christ 

Address: Ephesians 1:20 

Phone: Romans 10:13 

Website: The Bible . Keywords: Christ, Lord, 

Savior and Jesus 


_ 

Objective 

My name is Jesus -The Christ. Many call me Lord! I've sent you my 

resume because I'm seeking the top management position in your heart. 

Please consider my accomplishments as set forth in my resume. 


_ 

Qualifications 

I founded the earth and established the heavens, (See Proverbs 3:19) 

I formed man from the dust of the ground, (See Genesis 2:7) 

I breathed into man the breath of life, (See Genesis 2:7) 

I redeemed man from the curse of the law, (See Galatians 3:13) 

The blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant comes upon your 

life through me, (See Galatians 3:14) 



_ 

Occupational Background 

I've only had one employer, (See Luke 2:49 ). 

I've never been tardy, absent, disobedient, slothful or disrespectful. 

My employer has nothing but rave reviews for me, 

(See Matthew 3:15 -17) 

    

    

_ 

Skills Work Experiences 

Some of my skills and work experiences include: empowering the 

poor to be poor no more, healing the broken hearted, setting the 

captives free, healing the sick, restoring sight to the blind and 

setting at liberty them that are bruised, (See Luke 4:18). 

I am a Wonderful Counselor, (See Isaiah 9:6). People who listen 

to me shall dwell safely and shall not fear evil, (See Proverbs 1:33 ). 

Most importantly, I have the authority, ability and power to 

cleanse you of your sins, (See I John 1:7-9) 

_ 

Educational Background 

I encompass the entire breadth and length of knowledge, wisdom 

and understanding, (See Proverbs 2:6). 

In me are hid all of the treasures of wisdom and knowledge, 

(See Colossians 2:3). 

My Word is so powerful; it has been described as being a lamp 

unto your feet and a light unto your path, (See Psalms 119:105). 

I can even tell you all of the secrets of your heart, (See Psalms 44:21). 

_ 

Major Accomplishments 

I was an active participant in the greatest Summit Meeting of all times,
(See Genesis 1:26 ). 

I laid down my life so that you may live, (See II Corinthians 5:15 ). 

I defeated the arch enemy of God and mankind and made a show 

of them openly, (See Colossians 2:15 ). 

I've miraculously fed the poor, healed the sick and raised the dead! 

There are many more major accomplishments, too many to 

mention here. You can read them on my website, which is located 

at: www dot - the BIBLE. You don't need an Internet connection 

or computer to access my website. 

_ 

References 

Believers and followers worldwide will testify to my divine healing, 

salvation, deliverance, miracles, restoration and supernatural 

guidance. 

_ 

In Summation 

Now that you've read my resume, I'm confident that I'm the 

only candidate uniquely qualified to fill this vital position in your heart.


In summation, I will properly direct your paths, (See Proverbs 3:5-6), 

and lead you into everlasting life, (See John 6:47 ). 

When can I start? Time is of the essence, (See Hebrews 3:15 ). 

Send this resume to everyone you know, 
you never know who may have an opening! 
Thanks for your help. 

Re: [QUAD-L] Resume of Jesus Christ

[donald scott]

If you read the quad-list rules it clearly says not to use this link for 
religious views. I have been on the list 20 years. For the most part people 
observe not turning this into a religious forum and keep it to help quads. I'm 
non-religious as are many others on here, but we don't go saying anything 
against your believes. Think what ever you want, but keep the quad-list a 
information filled place for quad issues and we will all be better off. 

 


 From: gah17...@aol.com gah17...@aol.com
To: rollingl...@yahoo.com 
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Resume of Jesus Christ
  

 
And who made you supreme ruler? 


Glenn Henry

G.A.Henry 
Radio
100 Mill Street
Washington Boro, PA 17582 

In a message dated 1/17/2013 12:49:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
rollingl...@yahoo.com writes: 
Please keep the quad-list free from religious opinions. This is not  the right 
forum for anyones religious or non-religious beliefs. 

 


From: Ismael Cavazos  ismael.cava...@att.net
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:21  AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Resume  of Jesus Christ

This is SIMPLY AWESOME! I've never seen 
  this before! 

Whoever put The Resume of Jesus Christ together is 
  surely 

a blessing to us all! Please share it! The last sentence says 
  it all... 

Send this resume to everyone you know, you never know who 

may have an opening!    Powerful!      Have 
  a blessed day!




            
            The Resume of Jesus Christ 

Address: 
  Ephesians 1:20 

Phone: Romans 10:13 

Website: The Bible . 
  Keywords: Christ, Lord, 

Savior and Jesus 


_ 

Objective 

My name is Jesus -The Christ. Many call me Lord! 
  I've sent you my 

resume because I'm seeking the top management 
  position in your heart. 

Please consider my accomplishments as set 
  forth in my resume. 


_ 

Qualifications 

I founded the earth and established the 
  heavens, (See Proverbs 3:19) 

I formed man from the dust of the ground, 
  (See Genesis 2:7) 

I breathed into man the breath of life, (See Genesis 
  2:7) 

I redeemed man from the curse of the law, (See Galatians 3:13) 

The blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant comes upon your 

life 
  through me, (See Galatians 3:14) 



_ 

Occupational Background 

I've only had one employer, (See Luke 
  2:49 ). 

I've never been tardy, absent, disobedient, slothful or 
  disrespectful. 

My employer has nothing but rave reviews for me, 

(See Matthew 3:15 -17) 

    

    

_ 

Skills Work Experiences 

Some of my skills and work experiences 
  include: empowering the 

poor to be poor no more, healing the broken 
  hearted, setting the 

captives free, healing the sick, restoring sight 
  to the blind and 

setting at liberty them that are bruised, (See Luke 
  4:18). 

I am a Wonderful Counselor, (See Isaiah 9:6). People who listen 

to me shall dwell safely and shall not fear evil, (See Proverbs 1:33 
  ). 

Most importantly, I have the authority, ability and power to 

cleanse you of your sins, (See I John 1:7-9) 

_ 

Educational Background 

I encompass the entire breadth and 
  length of knowledge, wisdom 

and understanding, (See Proverbs 2:6). 

In me are hid all of the treasures of wisdom and knowledge, 

(See Colossians 2:3). 

My Word is so powerful; it has been 
  described as being a lamp 

unto your feet and a light unto your path, 
  (See Psalms 119:105). 

I can even tell you all of the secrets of your 
  heart, (See Psalms 44:21). 

_ 

Major Accomplishments 

I was an active participant in the 
  greatest Summit Meeting of all times,
(See Genesis 1:26 ). 

I laid 
  down my life so that you may live, (See II Corinthians 5:15 ). 

I 
  defeated the arch enemy of God and mankind and made a show 

of them 
  openly, (See Colossians 2:15 ). 

I've miraculously fed the poor, healed 
  the sick and raised the dead! 

There are many more major 
  accomplishments, too many to 

mention here. You can read them on my 
  website, which is located 

at: www dot - the BIBLE. You don't need an 
  Internet connection 

or computer to access my website. 

_ 

References 

Believers and followers worldwide will testify to 
  my divine healing, 

salvation, deliverance, miracles, restoration and 
  supernatural 

guidance. 

_ 

In Summation 

Now that you've read my resume, I'm confident 
  that I'm the 

only candidate 

[QUAD-L] facebook

[donald scott]

i think it's a great idea for the group to be connected by facebook.
here is my link http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=10730773383
under donald scott. if your going to post yours too, copy and paste your link 
rather than just 
give us your name because there are so masny people on facebook with the same 
name.
i hope to see you all soon.
 
donald scott
c6 21 years post 

[QUAD-L] Re:9

[donald scott]

...The best place where you can find everything you need!  
http://estore.fixthecomputer.net/com.friend.page.php?aSubCategoryId=89y2

[QUAD-L] Any other quad drivers tricking out their vans?

[donald scott]

Hi group,
 
I have been driving about 6 years now and luv the independence. Before I was 
injured I always had customized hot rods. I'm absolutely a certified car nut. I 
hit all the races and car shows in my area. So once I started driving again I 
wanted a cool ride. I took my stock van and customized it and started entering 
it in car shows locally. You can see it here 
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3318536/1999-dodge-grand-caravan-passenger/page-1 
So I'm wondering if any other quads are nutty about their van too? I'd luv to 
see some other wheelchair vehicles all tricked out. Send me some pics. of your 
vans weather mild or wild.
 
Thanks all,
Donald c5 20 years post

[QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

[donald scott]

hi group,
 
ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first 
pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the 
size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 
cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he 
recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well as 
trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to be 
up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work 
before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly 
better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion 
yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i 
give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing 
result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay 
down in bed but she needs to work. also is
 the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else?
 
thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete

Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine

[donald scott]

eric, is it ok to use the bag balm on a open soar?


From: Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine


I use http://www.bagbalm.com/ daily great stuff.

Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com
- Original Message - 
From: donald scott 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:30 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] honey vs bag balm vs sulfadiazine


hi group,

ok, here we go again with the pressure soar question. i developed my first 
pressure soar after 20 years. it's a stage 2 and barely open. it's about the 
size of a quarter. it's located on my buttock and was caused by my jay 2 
cushion. i've been fighting it for 2 months now and saw my dr. a month ago. he 
recommended sulfadiazine or also known as silverdine and a gauze pad as well 
as trying to stay off of it. I was able to stay in bed for awhile but need to 
be up more now for my girlfriend to go to work. she has 2 more weeks of work 
before summer break and i need to be up 10 hours a day. it did get slightly 
better but now coming back from being up i'm assuming. i did get a new cushion 
yesterday which i'm hoping helps. i guess what i need opinions on is should i 
give up on the sulfadiazine and try honey or bag balm for a quicker healing 
result? any suggestions would be helpful. i know the obvious answer is stay 
down in bed but she needs to work. also is
 the bag balm you folks use the one in the green can or something else?

thanks for your input and help,
donald c5/c6 complete

Re: [QUAD-L] How hot is it by you?

[donald scott]

I'm  in norwalk, ca which is about 15 miles south of l.a. and it's a cool high 
of 78 today. i feel for you heat sufferers and hope you stay cool and well.
take care,
donald

From: Bobbie Humphreys bobbie...@aol.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:43 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] How hot is it by you?

I living in Mid-Northern New Jersey and at 2:00 it is 95 degrees in the shade.  
    Bobbie






Sent from my iPad

Re: [QUAD-L] chat

[donald scott]

i met my girlfriend of ten years on the internet. back when  aol still had chat 
rooms. we were in a 30's something calif. chat room. i suggest u try any and 
all 
of the dating sites. but u must have alot of confidence. u also have to be able 
to handle alot of rejection. remember that for a women to look past your 
disability she must see strength, confidence, humor, and as much independence 
as 
possible.

good luck, don 





From: HOSNI AL-KHATIB hosnialkha...@hotmail.com
To: Quad-List quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 7:14:41 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] chat



I want To Ask,Where a Quadriplegic (Men And Women) Can Know And Meet People For 
Relationships...In The Net 



  

Re: [QUAD-L] Moving soon to my first apartment

[donald scott]

i have seen several lounge chair types with no arm rest. if u need a arm rest 
on 
just one side u could put a table right next to it to lean on. 

congrats on your apt. i live in my own home but i never transfer to chairs 
unless its the couch to fool around on.

tc, don





From: shellbell5...@aim.com shellbell5...@aim.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, January 16, 2011 2:49:01 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Moving soon to my first apartment


Hi to alll~

Interested to know if there are any co. who offer furniture for quads and the 
like~

I would love to be able to find a recliner that I can transfer into.  It would 
have to have only 1 arm
so that I could get beside it and transfer over~

Any body have any ideas?

thanks
Shelly


  

Re: [QUAD-L] legbag vs nightbag (my terminology)

[donald scott]

i use a leg bag and have for almost 20 years. my brand is alpine. the only 
problem sometimes is when the bag is new the slit in the rubber in the top 
plastic piece isnt always cut all the way through. if you close the bottom 
valve, and blow in the top valve when the bag hasnt been used yet the bag 
should 
fill with air. if not the slit in the rubber is closed. i can fix this with a 
knife. i cant imagine going out in public with a bag of piss just hanging out 
in 
view. at least put it in another bag you cant see through.

best of luck
donald c5-c6 complete 19 years





From: Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 4:39:31 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] legbag vs nightbag (my terminology)


wat do u use during the day?  my legbag if not put on just right, does not 
drain.  i've thought about using my 'nightbag' (2000L) full time but am very 
concerned w/ appearence...i'm not the best lookin guy, but honestly, me and a 
bag of piss makes me ashamed to be around you.
 
Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com


  

Re: [QUAD-L] Unidentified subject or bowel program

[donald scott]

   i have been a part of the list since all most the beginning. this topic 
comes 
up all the time. there is no set in concrete best way to take care of your 
bowels. eat well, drink lots of water, and  find what works for you. if you 
want 
to know what has worked from day one till now 20 years later for me its this. 
first off im a c5-c6 complete so what works for me might not for you. 


   i do my bowel care every other morning. my caregiver comes in at 7am. im 
laying in bed on my right side with a peach pad under me. a pillow supports my 
back and another between my knees and ankles. caregiver clears the entrance 
with 
finger. puts in one magic bullet and one glycerine suppository. then rubs my 
tummy in circles a couple times. i put a folded one time hand towel on my chest 
for sweating. i try and fall back asleep for a while during the time i go. my 
caregiver also rests and comes back 1 1/2 hours later and cleans me up. results 
are usually good but sometimes not. i always after im cleaned up no matter the 
result, have the caregiver restimulate me and rub my stomach again. we wait a 
1/2 hour more then clean me again if needed. thats it as for doing the deed. no 
sitting on a hard shower chair. i rest right through it most mornings. 


   as far as diet goes i do have some rules for myself. on the days i did bowel 
care i dont eat any spicey foods or drink any alcohol. (good thing there is 
weed.) on the other day i eat anything i want and can drink alcohol if i want. 
thats it. i do eat fairly healthy but not anything special at all.

  as far as pills go i do take senna 1 pill twice a day and docusate 1 pill in 
evening on bowel care day and 2 pills in evening the other day. 
this program has always worked well. i average about 15 accidents a year and 
sometimes thats due to me breaking my rule of no spicy food or booze. also some 
accidents happen from illness or stress.

   i hope my way of taking care of the dirty deed works for someone. 

good luck, donald c5-c6 complete almost 20 years.


From: Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com
To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net; wheelch...@aol.com; g...@eskimo.com; 
quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 11:49:20 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Unidentified subject!


Greg [and all,]

If you're sitting on your commode chair for two hours your sweating my have 
something to do with pressure--those seats aren't padded very well.

It seems we all have our own systems for bowel programs, but sometimes things 
change.  I'll describe how I do mine, in case it might be of help to others.

As a c5-6 quad I am able to tell when I need to have a bowel movement because 
of 
a certain chill I get, plus some sweating that accompanies that (mild A.D. 
symptoms.)  Generally I need to 'go' every other day, but it depends on how 
much, and what, I've had to eat or drink.

Once I feel the need to use the toilet I inform my caregiver and he transfers 
me 
to my shower/commode chair, pulls my pants down, rolls me over the toilet and I 
do my business.  Generally this takes less than 15 minutes and requires no 
suppository or digital stimulation.  I do, however, use a stimulus that works 
well for me:

Years ago I figured out that when in the shower if I sprayed a blast of hot 
water underneath me [onto my rectum] it would stimulate my bowels every time.  
The water has to be hot, but not hot enough to scald or burn, obviously.  
Anyhow, the hot water sprayed underneath, briefly, causes irritation and 
promotes the parastalsis to begin.

My shower is right next to my toilet, so when I'm sitting on my commode chair 
over the toilet I can still use the [hand-held] showerhead to spray underneath 
me and get things started.  This is also a good way to clean myself underneath, 
after the BM.  Yes, the water does sometimes get all over the bathroom floor, 
but that's an easy cleanup with a towel.

As such, I have found that a set bowel time for me every other day does not 
work.  Because I let my body tell me when it's time my BMs are fairly natural, 
quick and easy.  However, there are drawbacks to this system as well.  First, 
it 
requires access to your caregiver at short notice [my caregiver lives with me, 
so it works out.]  And, second, it's more difficult to schedule around.


[Another thing that has always been a laxative/stimulant for me is coffee.  A 
cup of coffee about 20 minutes before wanting to do a bowel program starts this 
moving for me.]

I hope this info helps someone.
Don.





From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net
To: wheelch...@aol.com; g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 11:54:43 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Unidentified subject!


Greg--how often do you have bowel routine?? in my early stages as a quad, 
myself 
and some others had those problems when they had us trying every day or every 
other day--the nurses in st. louis told us that many quads have better 

[QUAD-L] Unidentified subject!

[donald scott]

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[QUAD-L] Unidentified subject!

[donald scott]

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[donald scott]

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[donald scott]

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[donald scott]

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[donald scott]

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[QUAD-L] HOMELESS QUAD

[donald scott]

Good evening fellow quads. I was wondering if anyone has seen or heard of a 
homeless quad? I was asked this question by a friend and it got me thinking. 
For 
example here in Ca. they still haven't set the yearly budget and our In Home 
Supportive Services may be on the chopping block. So if a quad no longer had 
payed care they might would end up on the street. I know some will say, well 
then they will go to a nursing home but remember if lots of people don't have 
care, the homes will fill quickly. Not to mention I looked into going in a 
nursing home once before and couldn't find a single home that would take a quad 
without some kind of outside payment more than Social Security and Medicare. So 
group my questions are 1.) have you ever seen or heard of a homeless quad and 
2.) what would you do if suddenly you had no care and or home?

Take care all.
Donald C5/6 19 years post


  

Re: [QUAD-L] Missing members...

[donald scott]

I have been a member of the list since about 1993 I think. That's about when I 
got my first computer. I was injured in 1991. I use to really keep up with the 
list and everyone. It really helped me a lot in my early years. Now I don't 
join 
in as much do to most topics being the same things we have covered several 
times. The list has and will remain I believe a very useful tool for all of us 
quads. Someone that use to post a lot was Sean something or otherwise known as 
Quadius I think. He was from San Diego and a very nice guy. If I can be of any 
help to another quad I feel I must as it was other old timers that helped me. 
Keep up the fight.

Donald Scott
C5/C6 Complete 1991





From: Fragile swl...@gmail.com
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 5:33:19 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Missing members...

Dal Valhart (spelling?)

Bill Coulter

On 7/12/10, Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh...update

 1.  Jimmy McCoy

 2.  Houston Leek

 3.  David K Kelmer

 4.  Mark Jackson

 5.  Jerry Carter

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[QUAD-L] URGENT INFO. NEEDED FROM QUADS IN ARIZONA, NEVADA, AND UTAH

[donald scott]

Hello Quadsters,

I cuurently live in So. Calif. and might need to move in with family in one of 
the following states  Arizona, Nevada, or Utah. If you live in any one of these 
states I need to know how you get by. What type of medical programs do you 
use? Like here it's Medicare and Medical. What type of caregiver programs do 
you have? Here it's In Home Supportive Services. What type of housing programs? 
Here it's Section 8 housing. Any type of info. or numbers would be very much 
appreciated.

Thanks group,
Donald C5-C6 Complete
20 years post  


  

Re: [QUAD-L] playstation 2 joystick?

[donald scott]

hi danny,
 
i took a regular wireless ps2 controller and put a clear vinyl tubing 3/4 inch 
diameter i think, about 5 inches long, then super glue them onto the knobs. 
that's it. put controller on a soft pillow in your lap and your set. i'm a 
c5/c6 quad with my hands in a closed position and just slide them over the 
handles. i kick everyones butt on driving games and ms. pac-man.
 
merry christmas, donald

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


From: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [QUAD-L] playstation 2 joystick?
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 3:31 PM






HI, MY GRANDKIDS WANT ME TO PLAY SOME PLAYSTATION 2 GAMES WITH THEM, I REMEMBER 
A FEW SAID THEY HAD A JOYSTICK TYPE CONTROL THAT MAY PLAY A FEW PLAYSTATION 2 
GAMES SUCH AS MS PAC MAN--DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT TYPE OF JOYSTICK WE WOULD NEED 
OR WHERE TO BUY ONE THANKS, I HAVE NOT HAD MUCH LUCK TRYING TO FIGURE OUT 
WHERE TO BUY ONE.    DAN H.


  

RE: [QUAD-L] caregiver blues

[donald scott]

IHSS is a Calif. thing and also is for low income under 2000.00 in assets. But 
I live in my own home, have a van I drive, and a house full of stuff. Just 
don't have more than 2 grand in the bank. It's silly how low of assets they 
expect people to have. Heck a kitchen worth of stuff like stove, fridge, 
washer, table, and utincles is 2 grand these days.
 
Take care,
Donald C5/C6

--- On Sun, 9/20/09, Greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:


From: Greg g...@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] caregiver blues
To: 'donald scott' rollingl...@yahoo.com
Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 1:21 PM








Is IHSS a California thing?
The only help we get in AZ is if your low income, with total assets of $2,000.
Hard to qalify.
Thanks
 




From: donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 9:54 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] caregiver blues
 





I too was looking for a live-in caregiver and actually he starts today. Here in 
Calif. we can get IHSS (In Home Supportive Services) and it pays the caregiver 
9.00 per hour plus Medical-Dental Insurance. This caregiver works 25 hours a 
week doing care and house cleaning. I have 2 caregivers. I also give him free 
room, free utilities, free cable, and free wi-fi connection. He gets around 
800.00 a month after taxes. The new caregiver is a medical student plus works 
pt at a restaurant. So that's the low down here. Every case is different due to 
disability, living arrangement, and location.

 

Take care,

Donald C5/C6
 


  

[QUAD-L] caregiver blues

[donald scott]

I too was looking for a live-in caregiver and actually he starts today. Here in 
Calif. we can get IHSS (In Home Supportive Services) and it pays the caregiver 
9.00 per hour plus Medical-Dental Insurance. This caregiver works 25 hours a 
week doing care and house cleaning. I have 2 caregivers. I also give him free 
room, free utilities, free cable, and free wi-fi connection. He gets around 
800.00 a month after taxes. The new caregiver is a medical student plus works 
pt at a restaurant. So that's the low down here. Every case is different due to 
disability, living arrangement, and location.
 
Take care,
Donald C5/C6


  

[QUAD-L] SWEATING ONLY OR MAINLY IN CHAIR

[donald scott]

Hi group,
 
I read some of the posts regarding the sweating problem. I too have had this 
problem and ran a bunch of test. The doctors where pretty stumped. I think that 
I have finally figured out that it's a UTI problem. When we sit up it puts more 
pressure on the bladder which irritates the bladder when it's already upset 
from the UTI. It causes pain and then we sweat. I take a daily antibiotic for 
urine and have no more sweating. I may be wrong but it has helped me.
 
Good luck and great health,
Donald C5


  

[QUAD-L] here's the deal arizona quads...

[donald scott]

this is donald again,
 
i currently live in the los angeles area. i'm single and have a live-in 
caregiver. i'm also unemployed and have been since my injury. i have lived here 
for most of my 41 years, and the few years i didn't were in bullhead city, 
az. where i was injured 18 years ago. my folks own the home i'm in now plus the 
one they live-in in bullhead. i'm thinking about moving to bullhead or phoenix 
soon because i think calif. will soon start cutting programs due to budget 
problems. parents could sell this home and buy me another cheaper in az.
 
it has been a pretty good situation so far. i receive ss and ssi for money 
which is about 900.00 a month. for medical needs i get medicare and medi-cal 
and pay nothing for dr.'s, meds, and supplies including wheelchairs and 
repairs. i get what's called in-home supportive services that pays any 
caregiver of my choice 9.00 per hour for 8 hours a day for my care. for 240 
hours a month. for housing i get section 8 housing that pays most of my rent 
and allows me to rent from my folks due to the major renovations to my home. 
for transportation i do drive and have my own van but also use access 
services which is a service were a van takes you anywhere in so calif. for 
about 2.00 with a call a day in advance. like i said it's been pretty good 
here. but if they cut ihss or section 8 or both then not so great. no caregiver 
and no rent. maybe even medical cuts. 
 
so my questions are as follows, would i still get ss and ssi?
for medical i'm sure i get medicare but does the state pay for things medicare 
doesn't?
what in-home care program do you have, what's pay, and how many hours do you 
get?
do you have a renters assistance program?
and in phoenix do they have any transportation program?
 
i'm looking into the future and trying to make plans before all goes to hell 
here.
 
thanks for any info.
donald 
 


  

[QUAD-L] is anyone on list living in arizona?

[donald scott]

hi fellow quads,
 
i'm thinking about moving to az., maybe bullhead or pheonix. i need to know how 
your state works as far as health benefits, caregiving, and housing. if anyone 
is in az. i'd love to chat.
 
thanks, donald c-5/18 post


  

RE: [QUAD-L] myspace

[donald scott]

here is my myspace if anyone wants to add http://www.myspace.com/rollingluvr


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Re: [QUAD-L] Pictures of my van

[donald scott]

congrats dianna on the new van. i like your pictures. now it's time to pimp 
your ride out with rims, stereo, tint, and everything else. you can check out 
my van all pimped out on my myspace page. just click the link and then go to my 
pics.
http://www.myspace.com/rollingluvr
   
  have fun and drive safe, donald
   
  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://members.aol.com/diannal767/ 
   
  I don't have any to show yet of the modifcations but there's only hand 
controls and a device on the steering wheel for my hand. It's placed about *2 
o'clock* which worked out well because we lifted the right side arm of the w/c 
 my elbow rests on it.
  Dianna




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Re: [QUAD-L] Mattress

[donald scott]

i have been a quad for a mere 16 years and i have a cal king size motionless 
water bed. basically its a regular box spring with a foam bucket that holds 9 
individual tubes of water covered with a foam cap. i have only had 1 small 
pressure soar from my cushion wearing out. i have always enjoyed the fact my 
bedroom doesn't look clinical with something like a hospital bed. i also like 
having a 2 person bed for the times in life Ive had a girlfriend and the rest 
of the time my dog uses the other side. the foam cap on my bed is wearing out a 
bit and I'm thinking about my next bed. i still want a king size but not sure 
what type. memory foam, posturepedic, or maybe air. I'm curious do most of you 
use a medical type bed or a regular bed and which types or brands of both kinds?
   
  thanks, donald

Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have had the same mattress on my hospital bed for 30 years or more so it's 
pretty much worn out. I called my medical supplier to order a new one - we'll 
see!

Dan 




   
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[QUAD-L] GAME CONTROLLER

[donald scott]

I'M AT A C5/C6 LEVEL. MY HANDS ARE CLOSED LIKE A FIST BASICLY SO I CAN GRASP 
THINGS. I PLAY A PLAY STATION 2. I BOUGHT A LOGITECH CONTROLLER FROM A PLACE 
CALLED GAME STOP WHICH IS AT EVERY MALL. I THINK THIS CONTROLLER WORKS ON X BOX 
ALSO. IT WAS ABOUT 20.00 AND IS WIRELESS. I THEN WENT TO LOWES AND BOUGHT CLEAR 
TUBING THATS 3/4 OD X 5/8 ID VINYL AND CUT 2 PIECES ABOUT 6 INCHES LONG FOR 
LIKE 2.00. IT SLIDES OVER THE 2 KNOBS PRETTY SNUGGLY BUT I STILL SUPER GLUED 
MINE ON. THEN I JUST SLIDE MY HANDS ON AND PLAY. OR ONE HAND ON AND HIT BUTTONS 
WITH THE OTHER. OF COURSE SOME GAMES ARE TOO HARD TO PLAY LIKE THIS BUT I LOVE 
DRIVING GAMES AND IT WORKS GREAT FOR ME.   
  GOOD LUCK AND MERRY CHRISTMAS, DONALD


   
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[QUAD-L] Custom Vans

[donald scott]

   Hi group,
   
 I'm a C5/C6 Quad post 16 years living in the Los Angeles area and was a 
member of the group years ago and just rejoined the group last week. Before my 
injury I always had custom Hot Rods but afterward just had normal full sized 
vans that were your typical wheelchair vans with nicer wheels and tinted 
windows and I could only passenger but not drive. About 2 years ago I got the 
opportunity to get a used 1999 Dodge Caravan with low miles on it that was 
already setup for a quad to drive. Now that I was back behind the wheel I 
wanted something more than a soccer mom's minivan. Over the next year I 
customized my van with paint, interior, wheels, huge stereo, intake, exhaust, 
painted under hood, and over 50 modifications. I now do about 20 car shows a 
year and have a dozen trophies. It's crazy how much attention my van draws at 
shows. I guess people are bored of the usual Mustangs and Cameros and enjoy 
something unique. I let the kids go inside and the mom's say, hey I want
 a van like that. Other people in chairs say, you give me ideas for my van. 
So far I'm the only one in a wheelchair at the shows except one guy who's a 
para and transfers into a normal Corvette. I'd love to have others with custom 
wheelchair vans join me at some shows or even start a van club. If you would 
like to see a few pictures of my van you can go to my myspace page and click on 
pics.. The pictures are a little older and I've done more to it since but 
you'll get the idea.   myspace.com/rollingluvr  I hope to see more wheelchair 
vans that are more than transportation.
   
 Keep on cruising, Donald

   
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