[QUAD-L] Accessibility here, there, and everywhere
*Hey W!* ** *I forgot all about that tune! And I'm even from the disco era and loved hitting the discothèques in the late 70s. But I had forgotten its melody so I just went and played it on Youtube. Cool!* ** *Odyssey's Native New Yorker is a true Disco classic ~up in Harlem, down on Broadway~ or just about any place you call home. Although it is really about New Yawkers (so pronounced by those from Long Island, etc.). I lived six hours north of the city and have only been there about a total of four or five times. Once after my accident and that was enough! It was in the early 1980s and there were no curb cuts, etc. but I'm sure that has changed. * ** *But I also took a bus ride there in my chair before my body was so sensitive and would never do that again! I wasn't sure I was going to survive it. Just as bad as those cabdrivers! Prior to my accident, I took a cab once and when the cab hit one bump (and there are many) my head literally touch the ceiling of the cab!* ** *Cactus up my butt -- Now, don't you go talking dirty like that to me or someone will pounce on you! LOL Doubt it though as *I* seem to be the major target on here even just by jivin' folks. I never take things too seriously or life would be pretty darn dull!* ** *Thanks again for the reminder of that oldie but goodie!* ** *Lori* On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lori, you always remind me of one of my all time favorite songsYour A Native New Yorker Glad to read that you are both warm and comfortable. Now stick a cactus up your butt, lol. I'm jealous of you when its snows here. Best Wishes In a message dated 8/28/2008 6:05:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hear you, W ... New York State was bad enough as far as being so cold and, therefore, my quality of life as far as pain directly from the cold was terrible. Adding clothes did NOT help. Or blankets. Been in Tucson, Arizona now for seven years and everything is accessible. We even live on the outskirts but I have never had so much independence via going out my front door and down the road or sidewalk and going on and on for miles and miles in a safe atmosphere, warmth, and gorgeous mountain views in all directions and sunsets that probably only New Mexico and some islands have! Our neighborhood is very, very, peaceful and quiet and people keep to themselves yet are very friendly. Just a word from my current surroundings. I don't miss upstate New York at all! But I spent 35 of my 44 years of there and did not know anything different. So, like people who have been born in Canada and know nothing different... they just get used to the cold. Been there, done that but not in Canada! Lori Michaelson Age - 44 C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jenny, Canada is so cold, they have to do something right to get people to visit, lol. I'm sure that the populated areas of Canada are W/C Friendly but I wouldn't place any bets on many of the remote areas where Da Bears live. Best Wishes In a message dated 8/28/2008 2:06:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've heard the same thing about Canada. They have better health care than the US. China traditionally is disrespectful of human rights in general, so they're even less considerate of people with disabilities. I wouldn't go or livethere- anyone could be murdered and there wouldn't even be a trial. They try to create an image of embracing all people at the Olympics, but I've read that prior to the Olympics they were suppressing all sorts of uprising among the people there. Not to say that things are great in the US. There are definitely improvements needed in terms of accessibility and respect, but it is better here than most third-world countries. Best, Jenny On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 08:21 PM Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thirty years ago - God how time flies!, My family and I took a trip to eastern Canada and we were amazed at how accessible everything was. - and they were surprised that we were surprised. They said their country had made a commitment years prior to make everything as accessible as possible. And I've heard that Toronto is very wheelchair friendly. Dan
[QUAD-L] Accessibility and Web Feeds (RSS) in Firefox 2 (Windows version)
Enjoy a Better Web Experience There's a lot to do on the Web, and Firefox 2 is full of helpful features to make your time online more productive. Accessibility Firefox delivers a better browsing experience for everyone - including those who are visually impaired. Firefox includes support for DHTML accessibility. Web developers can create pages that reduce the amount of tabbing required to navigate a document to minimize keystrokes for those with mobility disabilities. Firefox also includes support for Microsoft Active Accessibility, Microsoft's accessibility API standard for Windows. This support allows Firefox to work with screen readers such as GW Micro's Window-Eyes and Freedom Scientific's JAWS. Firefox 2 (Windows version) meets US federal http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/vpat-2.html government requirements that software be easily accessible to users with physical impairments. Web Feeds (RSS) What do news headlines, indie rock podcasts, and pictures of kittens have in common? They're all things that you can subscribe to with Web feeds. Firefox 2 gives you full control over Web feeds, showing you a preview and letting you choose how you want to subscribe. You can use a Firefox Live Bookmark, or a feed reader that you've installed on your computer, or through a Web service such as My Yahoo!, Bloglines or Google Reader. I just saw this and thought I would share it with all of you, I'm sure you all use some type of RSS viewer for the quad last but if not for if you want to try something new here is a good alternative or a good start and makes keeping up with the quad list and searching the old stuff a lot easier than by e-mail... if anyone has questions feel free to ask! I personally use Firefox for web browsing but I use evolution alternative to Outlook for RSS feeds and e-mail. I still stay in Linux a lot, I accomplished this with my condition by using Windows Vista as the host operating system and VM Ware to run Linux in.. it allows me to use Dragon still in Windows and in Linux with it being a virtual machine in Windows. But enough about all that, I strongly suggest giving Firefox a try! Danny Espinoza 24/m/California Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security engineer Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner bone at c2 TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord off a vent woohoo however only one diaphragm works right now due to asymmetric SCI http://secureminds.us/
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When I look at ADA concerns and modifications to buildings I keep an open mind and look at the big picture. I have been in construction for 25 years and I realize that it's not always as simple as throwing a ramp in a building to make it accessible. If I'm able to get into the building at all I'm happy even if I have to go through the kitchen or some other roundabout way. I also understand that some businesses, especially if they are located on the second floor, cannot always afford to make their business assessable for us. I live in Duluth, Minnesota and I cannot go into every business so, I only go to the businesses that I'm able to without any complaining. My biggest pet peeve is with people that abuse handicapped parking. It really turns my crank to see somebody drop of a handicapped person in the front of a building at the mall and then go park in a van accessible parking spot with a little car. Obviously, it also turns my crank when I see somebody park in a handicapped spot and get out of the vehicle and run into the store because they are able-bodied. I have confronted a few of these people and for the most part they know they are wrong but they did very angry and smart mouthed to the point where one called me a F***ing moron. Since, more handicapped/disabled people are able to drive because of the technology, I think that the ADA should specify that all handicapped parking is van accessible. I have seen handicapped spot's that are not as wide as my van. Jim
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I agree with you Jim. This is a major political issue that will not go away soon. When it does, you can then expect the clouds to part, the sun to shine and hear voices from the heavens. Until that time, it behooves anyone who has a recognizable or certified impairment to complain to anyone who will listen about parking violations and encourage the police to issue citations and tickets for its violation. W In a message dated 7/30/05 10:11:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My biggest pet peeve is with people that abuse handicapped parking. It really turns my crank to see somebody drop of a handicapped person in the front of a building at the mall and then go park in a van accessible parking spot with a little car. Obviously, it also turns my crank when I see somebody park in a handicapped spot and get out of the vehicle and run into the store because they are able-bodied. I have confronted a few of these people and for the most part they know they are wrong but they did very angry and smart mouthed to the point where one called me a F***ing moron. Since, more handicapped/disabled people are able to drive because of the technology, I think that the ADA should specify that all handicapped parking is van accessible. I have seen handicapped spot's that are not as wide as my van.
[QUAD-L] Accessibility
John, you have a Life Mission to improve the path for others to follow. It should never be a problem but rather a Life's Project. It won't be easy in the beginning, but after the first few lawsuits for noncompliance, you will begin to notice some difference. You must not allow Stupidity to continue. 1st, you verbalize. 2nd, you file a lawsuit. 3rd, you win a few ... you lose a few. If I remember, Johnny AppleSeed had the same idea and look what happened with him. Best Wishes and verbalize. W In a message dated 7/28/05 6:52:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hate when a new restaurant is built that it hasn't met any ADA codes because a lawyer said that was just window dressing, yet they still put a blue and white wheelchair access sticker at the entrance with two steps. I hate that the new palace built in Hollywood, opened in 2003 with intense security yet nobody noticed a wheelchair couldn't get in until chris reeves was greeted. I hate when people suddenly notice the graduated slope and lack of steps and say, 'this is nicer.' Most of all, I hate having to gripe, whine, bitch and complain to the point where people think all I do is gripe, whine, bitch and complain.
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Title: accessibility Curb cuts are a big problem here and crowded stores w/merchandise, ilses too narrow, etc.. Stores that just have too much stuff. The big one, bathrooms are supposed be handicapped accessible. they throw up some rails no matter how narrow and call it accessible. There are 2 at school I can't even shut the door on my own b/c if I back in I cant turn around and if go in forward I can't reach the door behind me to close it. My favorite there was the button to open the door at the top of the ramp. Stacy - Original Message - From: Cameron Wallace To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] accessibility Hello people I know there are ADA parameters as to what "is and is not" ADA compliant but what are some of your pet peeves when these issues are handled by AB designers/architects. One of mine is the sensitivity of incorporating a retrofit ramp to an older building. Not only the design, but also the location. I do not like entering through a kitchen. -Cameron
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I just wanted to say to John THEY SAY that's all women do is gripe, whine,bitch and complain. but look what we've accomplishedsometimes that's just what needs to be done.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, you have a "Life Mission" to improve the path for others to follow. It should never be a problem but rather a Life's Project. It won't be easy in the beginning, but after the first few lawsuits for noncompliance, you will begin to notice some difference. You must not allow "Stupidity" to continue. 1st, you verbalize. 2nd, youfile a lawsuit. 3rd, you win a few ... you lose a few. If I remember, Johnny AppleSeedhad the same idea and look what happened with him.Best Wishes and verbalize.WIn a message dated 7/28/05 6:52:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hate when a new restaurant is built that it hasn't met any ADA codes because a lawyer said that was just window dressing, yet they still put a blue and white wheelchair access sticker at the entrance with two steps. I hate that the new pala! ce built in Hollywood, opened in 2003 with intense security yet nobody noticed a wheelchair couldn't get in until chris reeves was greeted.I hate when people suddenly notice the graduated slope and lack of steps and say, 'this is nicer.' Most of all, I hate having to gripe, whine, bitch and complain to the point where people think all I do is gripe, whine, bitch and complain.
[QUAD-L] accessibility
Title: accessibility Hello people I know there are ADA parameters as to what is and is not ADA compliant but what are some of your pet peeves when these issues are handled by AB designers/architects. One of mine is the sensitivity of incorporating a retrofit ramp to an older building. Not only the design, but also the location. I do not like entering through a kitchen. -Cameron
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In a message dated 7/28/2005 5:53:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know there are ADA parameters as to what "is and is not" ADA compliant but what are some of your pet peeves when these issues are handled by AB designers/architects. My biggest complaint is curb cuts! Here they have so many that are non-compliant. If it weren't for my anti-tip bars, I'd have gone over backwards long ago. Bill aka "Ding""Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it makes you walk funny."
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Where is the equality of entering through a back door, a side door, servants entrance, etc. A judge will gladly tell you what the rules are but you will have to sue to find out. Some judges don't think people in wheelchairs are owed the right to access everything that is available for AB. Public buildings are the worst and county engineers hate wheelchairs and the cheap unreliable crappy stuff that is available through DME's. I hate the busses with the blue and white access symbols, but they don't pick up wheelchairs. I hate when people stand behind me and talk as though I was a package. I hate stores where the isles are too narrow. I hate ramps that aren't ramps. Curb cuts are needed even when the curb is rolled. I hate cops that tell me not to roll in the street. I hate people that think because I accepted their help means I accept their opinion. I hate when a new restaurant is built that it hasn't met any ADA codes because a lawyer said that was just window dressing, yet they still put a blue and white wheelchair access sticker at the entrance with two steps. I hate that the new palace built in Hollywood, opened in 2003 with intense security yet nobody noticed a wheelchair couldn't get in until chris reeves was greeted. I hate when peoplesuddenly notice the graduated slope and lack of steps and say, 'this is nicer.' Most of all,I hate having to gripe, whine, bitch and complain to the point where people think all I do is gripe, whine, bitch and complain. john In a message dated 7/28/2005 5:53:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello people I know there are ADA parameters as to what "is and is not" ADA compliant but what are some of your pet peeves when these issues are handled by AB designers/architects. One of mine is the sensitivity of incorporating a retrofit ramp to an older building. Not only the design, but also the location. I do not like entering through a kitchen. -Cameron
