Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

2007-10-11 Thread Quadius
In the words of Terry Bradshaw now that was funny!

I am so glad to be back.  I am just hoping this achiness which I
occasionally feel in my shoulders during the night goes away so I won't have
to go in tomorrow to try to talk them into increasing the dosage for a
couple more days.  I don't recall having to wait as long as I did for the
antibiotic to work effectively.  Sure, it did immediately reduce my
temperature, but I felt pretty crappy for about another four days.

I really feel for everyone that suffers from chronic UTIs.  I had that
difficulty during my first three years and I can definitely empathize.
Take care all,
Quadius
BTW, if you're interested I made a quick entry regarding the Chris Dockery
concert I went to on Monday.  It's not really detailed.
http://quadius.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!745D1B2B2E20FAE1!2538.entry


On 10/9/07, Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quadiuswhile on this subject of bowel routine stuff---DID YOU
 HEAR ABOUT THE CONSTIPATED MATH MATITION ??HE WORKED IT OUT WITH A
 PENCIL !;-)

 *Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Increase sensitivity is the exact reason that I decided to go to every
 other day and sometimes have to do it every day.  I was really happy doing
 it three days a week for 10 years, but when you can feel the rumbling and
 the painful spasms, there is no alternative other than to go to the bathroom
 when necessary.
 At least that's my view.
 Quadius

 On 10/8/07, Corie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   It sounds like most of the people who have responded go only 2-3 times
  a week.  I'm wondering if those of you who do not go every day or every
  other day, have no sensation?  I go every day because I have sensation and
  my gut/bowels feel full and bloated if I don't go every day.  I have chronic
  nerve pain (the horrible burning and needles from my injury level down) and
  with the burning pain and feeling full if I don't go every day or even if
  I'm constipated and don't go enough, then I'm just miserable.  Before my SCI
  (14 years ago), I went once a day, sometimes twice a day so I think it's
  just normal for my body to go every day.  Fortunately, I use a magic bullet
  suppository and usually eliminate over the toilet on my shower/commode chair
  after 15-30 minutes.  When I get back into bed, just to make sure I have got
  it all out, I will have a digital and get any remaining stool out.  Most of
  the time I do not have anything left.  I take 4 fiber capsules and two stool
  softener/laxatives every day and it keeps me pretty regular.  Plus, I
  usually try to eat veggies and fruit regularly.  I have been lucky that I
  have only had a handful of accidents in the 14 years I've been injured.
  Corie, C5, incomplete
  Redding, CA
 
  - Original Message -
  *From:* Elizabeth Treston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
   *Sent:* Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:17 AM
  *Subject:* [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program
 
 
  What is your routine?  Do you take meds (i.e. senna tablets, colace,
  what kind of suppository; when do you take them?  How much fiber?
  Do you take narcotics?
  When do you go (every day, every other day etc.
 
  As a newly injured person it takes awhile to figure out what is best for
  you.
 
  Many use senna tabs @ 7-8 hours before their schedule..  Some add colace
  to keep stool soft.  Some go every MWF or every other day so they aren't
  attached to the toilet.
 
  Is your stool hard?  Is it enough for what you are consuming?
 
   --
  *From:* Nichole Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *Sent:* Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:57 PM
  *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist
  *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program
 
 
   I DO A FLEETS REGULAR ENEMA AFTER B.P. IF I'VEE SAT FOR 45 MIN TO AN HR
  AND NO RESULTS - WE DO THE ENEMA THEN. SOMETIMES IT HELPS GET THINGS MOVING
  AND IF NOT IT GETS RID OF THE SUPPOSITORY
 
  NICKI
 
  - Original Message -
  *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
  *Sent:* Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:19 PM
  *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program
 
 
  I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12
  midnight and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.
 
  At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to
  call it quits, nothin happening.
 
  It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and
  did not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of
  this that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting
  tomorrow.
 
  Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3
  hours doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.
  Shouldn't I have this figured out by now?
 
  I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to.
 
 
  Thanks
 
  Shelly
  1 year post
  C6-C7 incomplete
   --
  *Check

Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

2007-10-10 Thread Amy Davis
It seems that everyone has a different bowel program. Guess different things 
work for different people. 
   
  My boyfriend seems to have a very simple program. It is called DIL. (Digital 
internal...something something...not sure what that stands for exactally). 
   
  Every morning we turn him to his left side. And simply stimulate his bowel to 
move by inserting a gloved finger into the rectum.  Be sure to use a 
lubricant...we use vaseling or prep-H to prevent and help with any hemorrhoids. 
By stimulating the rectum..his bowels move. He ususally has a bowel movement 
everyday...but not always. He has only had a couple of accidents and usually 
that was caused by antibiotics that caused diarrhea. If his bowel do not move 
or seem to be hard after 2 days, we give him 30cc of Milk of Mag before bedtime 
and it usually works by the next morning. If not we repeat it at bedtime 
again...usually 2 doses will do the trick. 
   
  It has been 5 years and this is till working for him. 
  

John S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Damn, I've missed you Quadius. Good to see your feeling better, even 
if better is a lil twisted.
   
  john


  - Original Message 
From: Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Corie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2007 9:42:11 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

Quadiuswhile on this subject of bowel routine stuff---DID YOU HEAR 
ABOUT THE CONSTIPATED MATH MATITION ??HE WORKED IT OUT WITH A PENCIL !
;-)   

Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Increase sensitivity is the exact reason 
that I decided to go to every other day and sometimes have to do it every day.  
I was really happy doing it three days a week for 10 years, but when you can 
feel the rumbling and the painful spasms, there is no alternative other than to 
go to the bathroom when necessary. 
At least that's my view.
Quadius

  On 10/8/07, Corie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   It sounds like most 
of the people who have responded go only 2-3 times a week.  I'm wondering if 
those of you who do not go every day or every other day, have no sensation?  I 
go every day because I have sensation and my gut/bowels feel full and bloated 
if I don't go every day.  I have chronic nerve pain (the horrible burning and 
needles from my injury level down) and with the burning pain and feeling full 
if I don't go every day or even if I'm constipated and don't go enough, then 
I'm just miserable.  Before my SCI (14 years ago), I went once a day, sometimes 
twice a day so I think it's just normal for my body to go every day.  
Fortunately, I use a magic bullet suppository and usually eliminate over the 
toilet on my shower/commode chair after 15-30 minutes.  When I get back into 
bed, just to make sure I have got it all out, I will have a digital and get any 
remaining stool out.  Most of the time I do not have
 anything left.  I take 4 fiber capsules and two stool softener/laxatives every 
day and it keeps me pretty regular.  Plus, I usually try to eat veggies and 
fruit regularly.  I have been lucky that I have only had a handful of accidents 
in the 14 years I've been injured. 
  Corie, C5, incomplete
Redding, CA

- Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Treston 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:17 AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program
  
 
  What is your routine?  Do you take meds (i.e. senna tablets, colace, what 
kind of suppository; when do you take them?  How much fiber?  
  Do you take narcotics? 
  When do you go (every day, every other day etc.
   
  As a newly injured person it takes awhile to figure out what is best for you.
   
  Many use senna tabs @ 7-8 hours before their schedule..  Some add colace to 
keep stool soft.  Some go every MWF or every other day so they aren't attached 
to the toilet. 
   
  Is your stool hard?  Is it enough for what you are consuming?

  From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program 

 
  
  I DO A FLEETS REGULAR ENEMA AFTER B.P. IF I'VEE SAT FOR 45 MIN TO AN HR AND 
NO RESULTS - WE DO THE ENEMA THEN. SOMETIMES IT HELPS GET THINGS MOVING AND IF 
NOT IT GETS RID OF THE SUPPOSITORY 
   
  NICKI
- Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:19 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program
  
 
  I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12 midnight 
and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call it 
quits, nothin happening. 

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and did 
not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of this 
that I am

Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

2007-10-09 Thread Stacy Harim
Shelly,

It took me almost 7 months to get it right and then after I got home it all 
changed.  It worked great in rehab but the food was also different and 
healthier.  I had problems with constantly going and then had to start 
stimulating to empty all of the way.  Now I'm on antibiotics having the same 
problems as before whether I stimulate or not.  I feel like there is no point 
in doing the routine bc I am empting anyhow.  You aren't alone.  Most of us 
have been there.

Stacy


- Original Message 
From: Elizabeth Treston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2007 2:17:29 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program


What is your routine?  Do you take meds (i.e. senna tablets, colace, what kind 
of suppository; when do you take them?  How much fiber?  
Do you take narcotics? 
When do you go (every day, every other day etc.
 
As a newly injured person it takes awhile to figure out what is best for you.
 
Many use senna tabs @ 7-8 hours before their schedule..  Some add colace to 
keep stool soft.  Some go every MWF or every other day so they aren't attached 
to the toilet.
 
Is your stool hard?  Is it enough for what you are consuming?




From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program


I DO A FLEETS REGULAR ENEMA AFTER B.P. IF I'VEE SAT FOR 45 MIN TO AN HR AND NO 
RESULTS - WE DO THE ENEMA THEN. SOMETIMES IT HELPS GET THINGS MOVING AND IF NOT 
IT GETS RID OF THE SUPPOSITORY
 
NICKI
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program


I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12 midnight 
and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call it 
quits, nothin happening.

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and did 
not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of this 
that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting tomorrow.

Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours 
doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I 
have this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to.

 
Thanks

Shelly
1 year post
C6-C7 incomplete



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Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

2007-10-09 Thread Quadius
Increase sensitivity is the exact reason that I decided to go to every other
day and sometimes have to do it every day.  I was really happy doing it
three days a week for 10 years, but when you can feel the rumbling and the
painful spasms, there is no alternative other than to go to the bathroom
when necessary.
At least that's my view.
Quadius

On 10/8/07, Corie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It sounds like most of the people who have responded go only 2-3 times a
 week.  I'm wondering if those of you who do not go every day or every other
 day, have no sensation?  I go every day because I have sensation and my
 gut/bowels feel full and bloated if I don't go every day.  I have chronic
 nerve pain (the horrible burning and needles from my injury level down) and
 with the burning pain and feeling full if I don't go every day or even if
 I'm constipated and don't go enough, then I'm just miserable.  Before my SCI
 (14 years ago), I went once a day, sometimes twice a day so I think it's
 just normal for my body to go every day.  Fortunately, I use a magic bullet
 suppository and usually eliminate over the toilet on my shower/commode chair
 after 15-30 minutes.  When I get back into bed, just to make sure I have got
 it all out, I will have a digital and get any remaining stool out.  Most of
 the time I do not have anything left.  I take 4 fiber capsules and two stool
 softener/laxatives every day and it keeps me pretty regular.  Plus, I
 usually try to eat veggies and fruit regularly.  I have been lucky that I
 have only had a handful of accidents in the 14 years I've been injured.

 Corie, C5, incomplete
 Redding, CA

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Elizabeth Treston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
  *Sent:* Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:17 AM
 *Subject:* [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program


 What is your routine?  Do you take meds (i.e. senna tablets, colace, what
 kind of suppository; when do you take them?  How much fiber?
 Do you take narcotics?
 When do you go (every day, every other day etc.

 As a newly injured person it takes awhile to figure out what is best for
 you.

 Many use senna tabs @ 7-8 hours before their schedule..  Some add colace
 to keep stool soft.  Some go every MWF or every other day so they aren't
 attached to the toilet.

 Is your stool hard?  Is it enough for what you are consuming?

  --
 *From:* Nichole Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:57 PM
 *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist
 *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program


  I DO A FLEETS REGULAR ENEMA AFTER B.P. IF I'VEE SAT FOR 45 MIN TO AN HR
 AND NO RESULTS - WE DO THE ENEMA THEN. SOMETIMES IT HELPS GET THINGS MOVING
 AND IF NOT IT GETS RID OF THE SUPPOSITORY

 NICKI

 - Original Message -
 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:19 PM
 *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program


 I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12
 midnight and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.

 At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to
 call it quits, nothin happening.

 It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and
 did not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of
 this that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting
 tomorrow.

 Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours
 doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I
 have this figured out by now?

 I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to.


 Thanks

 Shelly
 1 year post
 C6-C7 incomplete
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Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

2007-10-09 Thread Danny Hearn
Quadiuswhile on this subject of bowel routine stuff---DID YOU HEAR 
ABOUT THE CONSTIPATED MATH MATITION ??HE WORKED IT OUT WITH A PENCIL !
;-)   

Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Increase sensitivity is the exact reason 
that I decided to go to every other day and sometimes have to do it every day.  
I was really happy doing it three days a week for 10 years, but when you can 
feel the rumbling and the painful spasms, there is no alternative other than to 
go to the bathroom when necessary. 
At least that's my view.
Quadius

  On 10/8/07, Corie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   It sounds like most 
of the people who have responded go only 2-3 times a week.  I'm wondering if 
those of you who do not go every day or every other day, have no sensation?  I 
go every day because I have sensation and my gut/bowels feel full and bloated 
if I don't go every day.  I have chronic nerve pain (the horrible burning and 
needles from my injury level down) and with the burning pain and feeling full 
if I don't go every day or even if I'm constipated and don't go enough, then 
I'm just miserable.  Before my SCI (14 years ago), I went once a day, sometimes 
twice a day so I think it's just normal for my body to go every day.  
Fortunately, I use a magic bullet suppository and usually eliminate over the 
toilet on my shower/commode chair after 15-30 minutes.  When I get back into 
bed, just to make sure I have got it all out, I will have a digital and get any 
remaining stool out.  Most of the time I do not have
 anything left.  I take 4 fiber capsules and two stool softener/laxatives every 
day and it keeps me pretty regular.  Plus, I usually try to eat veggies and 
fruit regularly.  I have been lucky that I have only had a handful of accidents 
in the 14 years I've been injured. 
  Corie, C5, incomplete
Redding, CA

- Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Treston 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:17 AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program
  
 
  What is your routine?  Do you take meds (i.e. senna tablets, colace, what 
kind of suppository; when do you take them?  How much fiber?  
  Do you take narcotics? 
  When do you go (every day, every other day etc.
   
  As a newly injured person it takes awhile to figure out what is best for you.
   
  Many use senna tabs @ 7-8 hours before their schedule..  Some add colace to 
keep stool soft.  Some go every MWF or every other day so they aren't attached 
to the toilet. 
   
  Is your stool hard?  Is it enough for what you are consuming?


-
  From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program 

 
  
  I DO A FLEETS REGULAR ENEMA AFTER B.P. IF I'VEE SAT FOR 45 MIN TO AN HR AND 
NO RESULTS - WE DO THE ENEMA THEN. SOMETIMES IT HELPS GET THINGS MOVING AND IF 
NOT IT GETS RID OF THE SUPPOSITORY 
   
  NICKI
- Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:19 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program
  
 
  I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12 midnight 
and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call it 
quits, nothin happening. 

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and did 
not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of this 
that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting tomorrow. 

Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours 
doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I 
have this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to. 

 
Thanks

Shelly
1 year post
C6-C7 incomplete


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RE: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

2007-10-09 Thread Eric W Rudd
LOL...OH SHIT MAN...no pun intended
 
 
Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Danny Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:42 PM
To: Quadius; Corie Jones
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program


Quadiuswhile on this subject of bowel routine stuff---DID YOU
HEAR ABOUT THE CONSTIPATED MATH MATITION ??HE WORKED IT OUT WITH A
PENCIL !;-)   

Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Increase sensitivity is the exact reason that I decided to go to every other
day and sometimes have to do it every day.  I was really happy doing it
three days a week for 10 years, but when you can feel the rumbling and the
painful spasms, there is no alternative other than to go to the bathroom
when necessary. 
At least that's my view.
Quadius


On 10/8/07, Corie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

It sounds like most of the people who have responded go only 2-3 times a
week.  I'm wondering if those of you who do not go every day or every other
day, have no sensation?  I go every day because I have sensation and my
gut/bowels feel full and bloated if I don't go every day.  I have chronic
nerve pain (the horrible burning and needles from my injury level down) and
with the burning pain and feeling full if I don't go every day or even if
I'm constipated and don't go enough, then I'm just miserable.  Before my SCI
(14 years ago), I went once a day, sometimes twice a day so I think it's
just normal for my body to go every day.  Fortunately, I use a magic bullet
suppository and usually eliminate over the toilet on my shower/commode chair
after 15-30 minutes.  When I get back into bed, just to make sure I have got
it all out, I will have a digital and get any remaining stool out.  Most of
the time I do not have anything left.  I take 4 fiber capsules and two stool
softener/laxatives every day and it keeps me pretty regular.  Plus, I
usually try to eat veggies and fruit regularly.  I have been lucky that I
have only had a handful of accidents in the 14 years I've been injured. 

Corie, C5, incomplete
Redding, CA


- Original Message - 
From: Elizabeth Treston  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:17 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

 
What is your routine?  Do you take meds (i.e. senna tablets, colace, what
kind of suppository; when do you take them?  How much fiber?  
Do you take narcotics? 
When do you go (every day, every other day etc.
 
As a newly injured person it takes awhile to figure out what is best for
you.
 
Many use senna tabs @ 7-8 hours before their schedule..  Some add colace to
keep stool soft.  Some go every MWF or every other day so they aren't
attached to the toilet. 
 
Is your stool hard?  Is it enough for what you are consuming?

  _  

From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program 

 
I DO A FLEETS REGULAR ENEMA AFTER B.P. IF I'VEE SAT FOR 45 MIN TO AN HR AND
NO RESULTS - WE DO THE ENEMA THEN. SOMETIMES IT HELPS GET THINGS MOVING AND
IF NOT IT GETS RID OF THE SUPPOSITORY 
 
NICKI

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

 
I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12 midnight
and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call
it quits, nothin happening. 

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and did
not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of this
that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting tomorrow.


Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours
doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I
have this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to. 

 
Thanks

Shelly
1 year post
C6-C7 incomplete

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Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

2007-10-09 Thread John S.
Damn, I've missed you Quadius. Good to see your feeling better, even if better 
is a lil twisted.

john


- Original Message 
From: Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Corie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2007 9:42:11 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

Quadiuswhile on this subject of bowel routine stuff---DID YOU HEAR 
ABOUT THE CONSTIPATED MATH MATITION ??HE WORKED IT OUT WITH A PENCIL !
;-)   

Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Increase sensitivity is the exact reason that I decided to go to every other 
day and sometimes have to do it every day.  I was really happy doing it three 
days a week for 10 years, but when you can feel the rumbling and the painful 
spasms, there is no alternative other than to go to the bathroom when 
necessary. 
At least that's my view.
Quadius


On 10/8/07, Corie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
It sounds like most of the people who have responded go only 2-3 times a week.  
I'm wondering if those of you who do not go every day or every other day, have 
no sensation?  I go every day because I have sensation and my gut/bowels feel 
full and bloated if I don't go every day.  I have chronic nerve pain (the 
horrible burning and needles from my injury level down) and with the burning 
pain and feeling full if I don't go every day or even if I'm constipated and 
don't go enough, then I'm just miserable.  Before my SCI (14 years ago), I went 
once a day, sometimes twice a day so I think it's just normal for my body to go 
every day.  Fortunately, I use a magic bullet suppository and usually eliminate 
over the toilet on my shower/commode chair after 15-30 minutes.  When I get 
back into bed, just to make sure I have got it all out, I will have a digital 
and get any remaining stool out.  Most of the time I do not have anything left. 
 I take 4 fiber capsules and
 two stool softener/laxatives every day and it keeps me pretty regular.  Plus, 
I usually try to eat veggies and fruit regularly.  I have been lucky that I 
have only had a handful of accidents in the 14 years I've been injured. 

Corie, C5, incomplete
Redding, CA
- Original Message - 
From: Elizabeth Treston 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:17 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

 
What is your routine?  Do you take meds (i.e. senna tablets, colace, what kind 
of suppository; when do you take them?  How much fiber?  
Do you take narcotics? 
When do you go (every day, every other day etc.
 
As a newly injured person it takes awhile to figure out what is best for you.
 
Many use senna tabs @ 7-8 hours before their schedule..  Some add colace to 
keep stool soft.  Some go every MWF or every other day so they aren't attached 
to the toilet. 
 
Is your stool hard?  Is it enough for what you are consuming?




From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program 

 
I DO A FLEETS REGULAR ENEMA AFTER B.P. IF I'VEE SAT FOR 45 MIN TO AN HR AND NO 
RESULTS - WE DO THE ENEMA THEN. SOMETIMES IT HELPS GET THINGS MOVING AND IF NOT 
IT GETS RID OF THE SUPPOSITORY 
 
NICKI
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

 
I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12 midnight 
and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call it 
quits, nothin happening. 

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and did 
not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of this 
that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting tomorrow. 

Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours 
doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I 
have this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to. 

 
Thanks

Shelly
1 year post
C6-C7 incomplete



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Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

2007-10-08 Thread Corie Jones
It sounds like most of the people who have responded go only 2-3 times a week.  
I'm wondering if those of you who do not go every day or every other day, have 
no sensation?  I go every day because I have sensation and my gut/bowels feel 
full and bloated if I don't go every day.  I have chronic nerve pain (the 
horrible burning and needles from my injury level down) and with the burning 
pain and feeling full if I don't go every day or even if I'm constipated and 
don't go enough, then I'm just miserable.  Before my SCI (14 years ago), I went 
once a day, sometimes twice a day so I think it's just normal for my body to go 
every day.  Fortunately, I use a magic bullet suppository and usually eliminate 
over the toilet on my shower/commode chair after 15-30 minutes.  When I get 
back into bed, just to make sure I have got it all out, I will have a digital 
and get any remaining stool out.  Most of the time I do not have anything left. 
 I take 4 fiber capsules and two stool softener/laxatives every day and it 
keeps me pretty regular.  Plus, I usually try to eat veggies and fruit 
regularly.  I have been lucky that I have only had a handful of accidents in 
the 14 years I've been injured.

Corie, C5, incomplete
Redding, CA

  - Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Treston 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:17 AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program


  What is your routine?  Do you take meds (i.e. senna tablets, colace, what 
kind of suppository; when do you take them?  How much fiber?  
  Do you take narcotics? 
  When do you go (every day, every other day etc.

  As a newly injured person it takes awhile to figure out what is best for you.

  Many use senna tabs @ 7-8 hours before their schedule..  Some add colace to 
keep stool soft.  Some go every MWF or every other day so they aren't attached 
to the toilet.

  Is your stool hard?  Is it enough for what you are consuming?



--
  From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:57 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program


  I DO A FLEETS REGULAR ENEMA AFTER B.P. IF I'VEE SAT FOR 45 MIN TO AN HR AND 
NO RESULTS - WE DO THE ENEMA THEN. SOMETIMES IT HELPS GET THINGS MOVING AND IF 
NOT IT GETS RID OF THE SUPPOSITORY

  NICKI
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program


I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12 
midnight and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to 
call it quits, nothin happening.

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and 
did not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of 
this that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting 
tomorrow.

Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours 
doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I 
have this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to.

 
Thanks

Shelly
1 year post
C6-C7 incomplete



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Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

2007-10-08 Thread SCIQuad96
 
Corie, I have sensations from my head to my toes. Although, it is  slightly 
altered below my chest I can still feel the bloating of my belly  and if I have 
bowel left in me. The latter works to my advantage most of  the time, but by 
morning if all I did to remove my bowel failed I know I'm going  to have a 
miserable day. Either just by the feeling the urge to go all day  or by knowing 
my situation and being miserable because of it.
If I know fully well that I'll go later then I won't even attempted to get  
up in my wheelchair. My day will be shot laying in bed waiting until the 
feeling  passes or waiting until the package is delivered onto my chucks.
 
BTW, you had mentioned the handful of accidents...now, is that hand cupped  
or are you counting with it? 
 
Just kidding!
 
Keith/34/C4-5/NJ-11yrsPost
 
---
In a message dated 10/8/2007 2:03:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, corie  writes:

It sounds like most of the people who have responded go only 2-3 times a  
week.  I'm wondering if those of you who do not go every day or every  other 
day, 
have no sensation?  I go every day because I have sensation  and my 
gut/bowels feel full and bloated if I don't go every day.  I have  chronic 
nerve pain 
(the horrible burning and needles from my injury level  down) and with the 
burning pain and feeling full if I don't go every day or  even if I'm 
constipated 
and don't go enough, then I'm just miserable.   Before my SCI (14 years ago), 
I went once a day, sometimes twice a day so I  think it's just normal for my 
body to go every day.  Fortunately, I use a  magic bullet suppository and 
usually eliminate over the toilet on my  shower/commode chair after 15-30 
minutes.  
When I get back into bed, just  to make sure I have got it all out, I will 
have a digital and get any  remaining stool out.  Most of the time I do not 
have 
anything left.   I take 4 fiber capsules and two stool softener/laxatives 
every day and it  keeps me pretty regular.  Plus, I usually try to eat veggies 
and fruit  regularly.  I have been lucky that I have only had a handful of 
accidents  in the 14 years I've been injured.
Corie, C5, incomplete
Redding, CA



 



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Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

2007-10-08 Thread John S.
Before my accident I went two times a day. after my accident I seemed to go 
without knowing it. I was on lotsa morphine and suppose to be worried about 
getting constipated. After consulting with dieticians ands finally a doctor 
who's specialty was rehab, I got on a bowel program that works for me. This 
doesn't mean its universal and can work for anyone. I forget to eat somedays. 
I've never had any burning or tingling pain. The pain I have is more like being 
crushed. It begins at neck and shoulders and as the day goes on it moves over 
my back to my hips and knees. I take 2 hydrocodone to get in my chair and then 
as needed. I call it my cape of pain. I figure the pain is different for us 
too. Other than headaches and AD I never had much pain untill the early 90's. 
At first it was just unrelenting sweat untill it turned to AD. Just depressing 
thinking about it. I'm just saying we are all very different and it is a matter 
of what works for you. 

john
p.s. sure wish I could go every day. I find the commode relaxing. Getting to it 
and back sucks.



- Original Message 
From: Corie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2007 2:01:41 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program


It sounds like most of the people who have responded go only 2-3 times a week.  
I'm wondering if those of you who do not go every day or every other day, have 
no sensation?  I go every day because I have sensation and my gut/bowels feel 
full and bloated if I don't go every day.  I have chronic nerve pain (the 
horrible burning and needles from my injury level down) and with the burning 
pain and feeling full if I don't go every day or even if I'm constipated and 
don't go enough, then I'm just miserable.  Before my SCI (14 years ago), I went 
once a day, sometimes twice a day so I think it's just normal for my body to go 
every day.  Fortunately, I use a magic bullet suppository and usually eliminate 
over the toilet on my shower/commode chair after 15-30 minutes.  When I get 
back into bed, just to make sure I have got it all out, I will have a digital 
and get any remaining stool out.  Most of the time I do not have anything left. 
 I take 4 fiber capsules and
 two stool softener/laxatives every day and it keeps me pretty regular.  Plus, 
I usually try to eat veggies and fruit regularly.  I have been lucky that I 
have only had a handful of accidents in the 14 years I've been injured.

Corie, C5, incomplete
Redding, CA
- Original Message - 
From: Elizabeth Treston 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:17 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] advice on bowel program


What is your routine?  Do you take meds (i.e. senna tablets, colace, what kind 
of suppository; when do you take them?  How much fiber?  
Do you take narcotics? 
When do you go (every day, every other day etc.
 
As a newly injured person it takes awhile to figure out what is best for you.
 
Many use senna tabs @ 7-8 hours before their schedule..  Some add colace to 
keep stool soft.  Some go every MWF or every other day so they aren't attached 
to the toilet.
 
Is your stool hard?  Is it enough for what you are consuming?




From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program


I DO A FLEETS REGULAR ENEMA AFTER B.P. IF I'VEE SAT FOR 45 MIN TO AN HR AND NO 
RESULTS - WE DO THE ENEMA THEN. SOMETIMES IT HELPS GET THINGS MOVING AND IF NOT 
IT GETS RID OF THE SUPPOSITORY
 
NICKI
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program


I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12 midnight 
and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call it 
quits, nothin happening.

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and did 
not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of this 
that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting tomorrow.

Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours 
doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I 
have this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to.

 
Thanks

Shelly
1 year post
C6-C7 incomplete



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[QUAD-L] advice on bowel program

2007-10-07 Thread Elizabeth Treston
What is your routine?  Do you take meds (i.e. senna tablets, colace, what
kind of suppository; when do you take them?  How much fiber?  
Do you take narcotics? 
When do you go (every day, every other day etc.
 
As a newly injured person it takes awhile to figure out what is best for
you.
 
Many use senna tabs @ 7-8 hours before their schedule..  Some add colace to
keep stool soft.  Some go every MWF or every other day so they aren't
attached to the toilet.
 
Is your stool hard?  Is it enough for what you are consuming?

  _  

From: Nichole Rohling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quadlist
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program


I DO A FLEETS REGULAR ENEMA AFTER B.P. IF I'VEE SAT FOR 45 MIN TO AN HR AND
NO RESULTS - WE DO THE ENEMA THEN. SOMETIMES IT HELPS GET THINGS MOVING AND
IF NOT IT GETS RID OF THE SUPPOSITORY
 
NICKI

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Please, can you give advice on bowel program

I am so sick and tired of this dominating my life.  It is after  12 midnight
and I am considering sleeping on the potty chair.  

At 8 I inserted a suppository.  An hour and and half later I decided to call
it quits, nothin happening.

It's 9:30 and am making my way to bed.  THEN I needed to get back on and did
not make it.  What a mess. When will this get better?  I am so tired of this
that I am seriously considering limiting my food intake.  Starting tomorrow.

Taking a shower and dressing took me 2 hours and I have spent over 3 hours
doing my bowel program.  It has been a year since my accident.  Shouldn't I
have this figured out by now?

I am so frustrated and angry. Sick and tired of crying to.

 
Thanks

Shelly
1 year post
C6-C7 incomplete

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