Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer

2005-11-05 Thread Brien Stocker

Silas wrote:


Hey Brien,
How do I get intouch with my states dept- of consumer affairs, will 
they send a complaint form?  Im having a hell of a time out of 
Inovation, their service sucks.

Silas

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Folks, thanx for all the encouragement.  I filed  a report with my 
state's dept  of  consumer affairs, called a  really nice contact at 
Invacare (she even remembered my parrots in the background, called 
the national headquarters, etc.
I have always found that the best thing to do is to dl a complaint 
form from consumer affairs, fill it out and either take it to the 
problem business or fax it with a follow up phone call.  I have 
always received a very prompt response from businesses  when they  
see that  form ready to send in to an agency that NOBODY likes to 
have poking around their business.


All the response was REALLY nice,

my best,

Brien 




Go to  your state's  website and find the area for consumer affairs or 
the dept of  health.  I suggest that you try to deal directly with the 
dept of health.  In CA I realized that consumer affairs is the wrong 
portal and does not handle medical issues.


my best,

Brien



Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer

2005-11-05 Thread Silas

Hey Brien,
How do I get intouch with my states dept- of consumer affairs, will they 
send a complaint form?  Im having a hell of a time out of Inovation, their 
service sucks.

Silas

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From: "

Cc: <
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer


Folks, thanx for all the encouragement.  I filed  a report with my state's 
dept  of  consumer affairs, called a  really nice contact at Invacare (she 
even remembered my parrots in the background, called the national 
headquarters, etc.
I have always found that the best thing to do is to dl a complaint form 
from consumer affairs, fill it out and either take it to the problem 
business or fax it with a follow up phone call.  I have always received a 
very prompt response from businesses  when they  see that  form ready to 
send in to an agency that NOBODY likes to have poking around their 
business.


All the response was REALLY nice,

my best,

Brien 




Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer

2005-11-03 Thread Brien Stocker
Folks, thanx for all the encouragement.  I filed  a report with my 
state's dept  of  consumer affairs, called a  really nice contact at 
Invacare (she even remembered my parrots in the background, called the 
national headquarters, etc. 

I have always found that the best thing to do is to dl a complaint form 
from consumer affairs, fill it out and either take it to the problem 
business or fax it with a follow up phone call.  I have always received 
a very prompt response from businesses  when they  see that  form ready 
to send in to an agency that NOBODY likes to have poking around their  
business.


All the response was REALLY nice,

my best,

Brien



Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer

2005-11-03 Thread Liz
call your consumer dept and States advocate office
- Original Message - 
From: "Brien Stocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer


> Folks,
> 
> In July, I initiated the repair of my chair armrests, bald tires, wrong 
> size chair, etc.  My insurance co. called them yesterday and found out 
> that the parts were just ordered a  few weeks ago: probably because I  
> faxed them to advise status.
> 
> These losers do not get it.  Any suggestions  on how to drop the hammer 
> so that they do not continue to provide terrible  service to our peers?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Brien
> 
> 



Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer

2005-11-02 Thread wheelchair
Oh, your preaching to the choir on pre counsel.  I agree.  But in the
referenced example its after the fact.
However, if anyone has loads of money to bring a lawyer after the 
fact so be it.
W

In a message dated 11/2/05 6:08:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I believe an ounce of prevention prevents a ton of pain.  

Lawyers can also review documents prior to signing as well as present
you with documents for the other party involved to agree to.  I've used
legal "pre-counsel" many times to make certain I've done my CYA.

In this case I would definitely get legal "advice".  This means you
simply call, explain the situation, and any decent legal firm will tell
YOU what to do next to ensure you are taken care of.  Typically they
will say "If  does _, then call me."  If they don't tell you the
point at which you need a lawyer involved more closely, then ask. >>



RE: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer

2005-11-02 Thread Aaron Mann
I believe an ounce of prevention prevents a ton of pain.  

Lawyers can also review documents prior to signing as well as present
you with documents for the other party involved to agree to.  I've used
legal "pre-counsel" many times to make certain I've done my CYA.

In this case I would definitely get legal "advice".  This means you
simply call, explain the situation, and any decent legal firm will tell
YOU what to do next to ensure you are taken care of.  Typically they
will say "If  does _, then call me."  If they don't tell you the
point at which you need a lawyer involved more closely, then ask.


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Lawyers are only good when their is proven injury or loss.
You'd be surprised how helpful manufacturers can be when everything is
presented to them in an organized complaint and then following up.
Granted, it takes time and effort, but success is so sweet when the the
problem is solved... to your satisfaction.
Best Wishes
W

In a message dated 11/2/05 2:22:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Has anyone thought about asking a lawyer?


It never hurts to ask.




Mar >>





Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer

2005-11-02 Thread wheelchair
Lawyers are only good when their is proven injury or loss.
You'd be surprised how helpful manufacturers can be when everything is 
presented
to them in an organized complaint and then following up.
Granted, it takes time and effort, but success is so sweet when the
the problem is solved... to your satisfaction.
Best Wishes
W

In a message dated 11/2/05 2:22:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Has anyone thought about asking a lawyer?


It never hurts to ask.




Mar >>



Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer

2005-11-02 Thread wheelchair
Only the payer can complain, but you can begin the ball rolling by contacting 
the manufacturer of your chair's customer relations department, in writing.  
Offer your
side of the story and present only the facts.  Speculation is anything that 
can't be proven, so make sure that you have your names, faces, dates and payee 
correct as you
begin the process.  Make sure that your insurance company receives a copy of 
your
report and make sure that you provide your telephone number and email address 
so that they can get back to you directly, if needed.
Make sure that you are able to supply them with the serial number and damages 
and
how this delay has affected you, your health and well being.
This is how you begin the process.
Best Wishes!
W

In a message dated 11/2/05 1:00:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< In July, I initiated the repair of my chair armrests, bald tires, wrong 

size chair, etc.  My insurance co. called them yesterday and found out 

that the parts were just ordered a  few weeks ago: probably because I  

faxed them to advise status.


These losers do not get it.  Any suggestions  on how to drop the hammer 

so that they do not continue to provide terrible  service to our peers?


Thank you,


Brien >>



Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer

2005-11-02 Thread QuadPirate






Has anyone thought about asking a lawyer?
It never hurts to ask.
 
Mark
 
---Original Message---
 

From: Silas
Date: 11/02/05 17:01:49
To: Brien Stocker; quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer
 
  Brien,
  When you find let me know, I would love to get Holland Medical by the
balls.  Were just at there mursey, they don't give a shit about our needs.
Silas
  -
  >
 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer
 
 
  > Folks,
  >
  > In July, I initiated the repair of my chair armrests, bald tires, wrong
  > size chair, etc.  My insurance co. called them yesterday and found out
  > that the parts were just ordered a  few weeks ago: probably because I
  > faxed them to advise status.
  >
  > These losers do not get it.  Any suggestions  on how to drop the hammer
  > so that they do not continue to provide terrible  service to our peers?
  >
  > Thank you,
  >
  > Brien
  >
 
 

 
 
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Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer

2005-11-02 Thread Silas

 Brien,
 When you find let me know, I would love to get Holland Medical by the 
balls.  Were just at there mursey, they don't give a shit about our needs. 
Silas
 - 
 >


 Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer


 > Folks,
 >
 > In July, I initiated the repair of my chair armrests, bald tires, wrong
 > size chair, etc.  My insurance co. called them yesterday and found out
 > that the parts were just ordered a  few weeks ago: probably because I
 > faxed them to advise status.
 >
 > These losers do not get it.  Any suggestions  on how to drop the hammer
 > so that they do not continue to provide terrible  service to our peers?
 >
 > Thank you,
 >
 > Brien
 >







Re: [QUAD-L] how to report VERY bad DME dealer/repairer

2005-11-02 Thread Brien Stocker

Folks,

In July, I initiated the repair of my chair armrests, bald tires, wrong 
size chair, etc.  My insurance co. called them yesterday and found out 
that the parts were just ordered a  few weeks ago: probably because I  
faxed them to advise status.


These losers do not get it.  Any suggestions  on how to drop the hammer 
so that they do not continue to provide terrible  service to our peers?


Thank you,

Brien