Re: [Quantum Owners] Radiator repalcement questions

[Derek Clews]

Hi Pete,

That is an interesting solution.  it looks like you need to buy their fans to 
go with it?  

Derek


> On 11 Feb 2020, at 18:37, Pete M  wrote:
> 
> 
> Merlin Motorsport has a Davies Craig one :
> 
> https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/digital-thermatic-radiator-fan-switch-adjustable-0444
> 
> 
> On Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:17:05 UTC, Derek Clews wrote:
> I was, forgot, now you mention it. Just googled and got:
> 
> Kenlowe only supply fans to vehicle manufacturers/engineering companies and 
> field replacements for existing specialist applications. We no longer make or 
> supply thermo electric fan packages for retrofit on individual cars for the 
> automotive aftermarket.
> 
> Who’d a know’d it?
> 
> Derek
> 
>> On 9 Feb 2020, at 18:25, Ken Needham > wrote:
>> 
>> Gents, are you aware of the Kenlow fan thermostat. This has a variable 
>> switch point and may be fitted to any rad. They are not cheap but do perform 
>> very well.
>> Ken
>>  
>> Sent from Mail  for Windows 
>> 10
>>  
>> From: quantu...@googlegroups.com <> > on 
>> behalf of bill >
>> Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 2:27:19 PM
>> To: quantu...@googlegroups.com <> >
>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Radiator repalcement questions
>>  
>> Hi Derek, on my car I have a two speed fan and used to have the lower speed 
>> connected to a manual switch for some time, over time and probably due to 
>> another failure of a radiator fan switch the lower speed wasn’t connected 
>> anymore. The fan was now fed through a relay as when the switch was used to 
>> directly feed the fan the switch was prone to failure. I found the dual 
>> temperature switch on eBay although I only searched for radiator fan switch, 
>> when the dual one turned up I thought why not. After that I bought a simple 
>> on/on switch so I can select which ever I want, a lot of this stemmed from 
>> when I changed the zetec thermostat and found the fan would be running at 
>> the engines normal running temperature, hence the original reason for the 
>> search. I like to be able to power up the fan whenever I may want but also 
>> have the fan stop when the temperature drops, without anymore input from me
>> Bill
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 9 Feb 2020, at 13:11, Derek Clews > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> So you found an unusual replacement, then?  Just wondering what advantage 
>>> that would give in real world conditions over a manual switch to back up 
>>> the standard thermostatic single output switch.  Or worth fitting a two 
>>> speed fan as well?  
>>> 
>>> Still that is why it is worth asking a question on here.  Folks come up 
>>> with all sorts of ideas and experiences.  Great!
>>> 
>>> Derek
>>> 
>>> 
 On 8 Feb 2020, at 10:27, bill > wrote:
 
 The last radiator mounted fan switch I fitted was a dual output for two 
 speed fan, one output was 88c the other much higher, I run on the higher 
 temperature leg, I’m going to connect both through a common on/on switch 
 so I can easily select either 
 Bill
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 8 Feb 2020, at 10:18, Dave English > wrote:
 
> 
> Hi Derek
> 
> I had to replace my fan switch last year and ended up with the lower 
> temperature one (88C-95C), my thermostat is the same as yours, an 88C 
> one. If I were you I would go for the 98C to 103C you mentioned because I 
> find the fan can come on with the engine at normal running temperature 
> (needle in the middle), which means it's on a lot more.
> The switch I took out was a 98C to 103C but, as I was doing the 
> replacement with a full water system, I didn't fancy holding my finger 
> over the hole until another switch came through the post!
> The next time I need to drain the system, I'll fit a higher temperature 
> switch. (Shouldn't be long, the increasing differential whine means a 
> replacement gearbox is now required, so I'll need to drop the engine 
> down.)
> 
> Regards
> Dave English
> Q2-009
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Radiator repalcement questions

[Pete M]

Merlin Motorsport has a Davies Craig one :

https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/digital-thermatic-radiator-fan-switch-adjustable-0444


On Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:17:05 UTC, Derek Clews wrote:
>
> I was, forgot, now you mention it. Just googled and got:
>
> Kenlowe only supply fans to vehicle manufacturers/engineering companies 
> and field replacements for existing specialist applications. We no longer 
> make or supply thermo electric fan packages for retrofit on individual cars 
> for the automotive aftermarket.
>
> Who’d a know’d it?
>
> Derek
>
> On 9 Feb 2020, at 18:25, Ken Needham > 
> wrote:
>
> Gents, are you aware of the Kenlow fan thermostat. This has a variable 
> switch point and may be fitted to any rad. They are not cheap but do 
> perform very well.
> Ken
>  
> Sent from Mail  for 
> Windows 10
>  
> --
> *From:* quantu...@googlegroups.com  <
> quantu...@googlegroups.com > on behalf of bill <
> bill_gr...@hotmail.co.uk >
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 9, 2020 2:27:19 PM
> *To:* quantu...@googlegroups.com   >
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Radiator repalcement questions
>  
> Hi Derek, on my car I have a two speed fan and used to have the lower 
> speed connected to a manual switch for some time, over time and probably 
> due to another failure of a radiator fan switch the lower speed wasn’t 
> connected anymore. The fan was now fed through a relay as when the switch 
> was used to directly feed the fan the switch was prone to failure. I found 
> the dual temperature switch on eBay although I only searched for radiator 
> fan switch, when the dual one turned up I thought why not. After that I 
> bought a simple on/on switch so I can select which ever I want, a lot of 
> this stemmed from when I changed the zetec thermostat and found the fan 
> would be running at the engines normal running temperature, hence the 
> original reason for the search. I like to be able to power up the fan 
> whenever I may want but also have the fan stop when the temperature drops, 
> without anymore input from me
> Bill
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 9 Feb 2020, at 13:11, Derek Clews > 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> So you found an unusual replacement, then?  Just wondering what advantage 
> that would give in real world conditions over a manual switch to back up 
> the standard thermostatic single output switch.  Or worth fitting a two 
> speed fan as well?  
>
> Still that is why it is worth asking a question on here.  Folks come up 
> with all sorts of ideas and experiences.  Great!
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 8 Feb 2020, at 10:27, bill > 
> wrote:
>
> The last radiator mounted fan switch I fitted was a dual output for two 
> speed fan, one output was 88c the other much higher, I run on the higher 
> temperature leg, I’m going to connect both through a common on/on switch so 
> I can easily select either 
> Bill
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 8 Feb 2020, at 10:18, Dave English > 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Derek
>
> I had to replace my fan switch last year and ended up with the lower 
> temperature one (88C-95C), my thermostat is the same as yours, an 88C one. 
> If I were you I would go for the 98C to 103C you mentioned because I find 
> the fan can come on with the engine at normal running temperature (needle 
> in the middle), which means it's on a lot more.
> The switch I took out was a 98C to 103C but, as I was doing the 
> replacement with a full water system, I didn't fancy holding my finger over 
> the hole until another switch came through the post!
> The next time I need to drain the system, I'll fit a higher temperature 
> switch. (Shouldn't be long, the increasing differential whine means a 
> replacement gearbox is now required, so I'll need to drop the engine down.)
>
> Regards
> Dave English
> Q2-009
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[Jim Hearne]

Took me a while to work out what the last word in “I suspected the plot is 
likely to floor” was meant to be (flood).

Looks nice, i found it on the net.
Bit far away for us 

Jim


From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:58 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

The property is still for sale, but unfortunately the house wouldn't have been 
suitable and I suspected the plot is likely to floor.  However the outside is 
described:

"The property is approached via a pair of metal gates providing access to the 
gravelled driveway which in turn leads to a parking and turning area suitable 
for four/five vehicles. Set to the side is a steel portal farm 
OUTBUILDING/BARN: 13.60m x 11.30m with concrete floor and inset concrete 
block-work at low level, large high door to front and doors to side and back, 
plus side service door. Internal wide opening into workshop area with wide 
through door to back. Two internal side storage rooms of approximately 4.42m x 
2.47m one room has a diesel generator for the workshop area. Power and lighting 
and outside security floodlighting.
Adjacent to the outbuilding is an extensive hardstanding area with metal farm 
gate giving access to a level meadow with stream boundary and hedges."

The meadow that comes with it is allowed to accommodate up to 5 caravans, plus 
there's a lovely old pub 10 minutes walk away.

Regards,
Steve


On 11/02/2020 14:44, Jim Hearne wrote:

  We only looked at houses with a double garage !

  Jim


  From: Derek Clews 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:40 PM
  To: Quantum Owners Forum 
  Cc: Derek Clews 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

  He! He!  Yes when we were looking for our current house the joke with the 
estate agent was that we wanted a Garage with a house attached…… 

  Derek



On 11 Feb 2020, at 14:27, Jim Hearne  wrote:

I think you have that the wrong way round, you need the garage first to put 
all the tools in for fixing the house.
And, make sure its big enough to take the Q as well 


Jim


From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:25 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

It will be quite a while before it gets done anyway.
I bought a new (150 year old) house which needs ‘a bit’ of work.
Once the house is done I can build the new garage THEN carry on with the Q 
rebuild !!

Chris G

From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:51 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

Be careful mixing stainless steel and aluminium.  You might quickly find 
you have less aluminium than when you started!  Use some plastic/rubber washers 
to isolate the 2 if possible.

Regards,
Steve

On 11/02/2020 13:44, chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group wrote:

  The bloke who built mine had made some out of aluminium (badly) and had 
used steel self tappers to hold it on.
  The screws had rusted solid and had to be drilled out.
  I intend to made some better ones out of aluminium and use stainless 
rivnuts.

  Chris G

  From: Derek Clews 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:12 AM
  To: Quantum Owners Forum 
  Cc: Derek Clews 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

  My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose cone 
off.  (Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more recent refit with the 
redesigned front lights shape. If you do not have liners I would have thought 
the lights and wiring would have got a pounding and would need to be very 
waterproof.   

  My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium.  

  Derek



On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne  wrote:

I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of the 
nose cone.
And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and 
outer wings that supplys air to the heater system.
I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from a 
big puddle to splash up there and enter the car.

Jim



From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

Hi Derek et al


My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've 
not found any downside to that. 


Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but 
during a full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 



http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-sal

Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

['Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group]

The property is still for sale, but unfortunately the house wouldn't 
have been suitable and I suspected the plot is likely to floor.  However 
the outside is described:


"/The property is approached via a pair of metal gates providing access 
to the gravelled driveway which in turn leads to a parking and turning 
area suitable for four/five vehicles. Set to the side is a steel portal 
farm OUTBUILDING/BARN: 13.60m x 11.30m with concrete floor and inset 
concrete block-work at low level, large high door to front and doors to 
side and back, plus side service door. Internal wide opening into 
workshop area with wide through door to back. Two internal side storage 
rooms of approximately 4.42m x 2.47m one room has a diesel generator for 
the workshop area. Power and lighting and outside security floodlighting.//
//Adjacent to the outbuilding is an extensive hardstanding area with 
metal farm gate giving access to a level meadow with stream boundary and 
hedges./"


The meadow that comes with it is allowed to accommodate up to 5 
caravans, plus there's a lovely old pub 10 minutes walk away.


Regards,
Steve

On 11/02/2020 14:44, Jim Hearne wrote:

We only looked at houses with a double garage !
Jim
*From:* Derek Clews
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:40 PM
*To:* Quantum Owners Forum
*Cc:* Derek Clews
*Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
He! He!  Yes when we were looking for our current house the joke with 
the estate agent was that we wanted a Garage with a house attached……

Derek


On 11 Feb 2020, at 14:27, Jim Hearne  wrote:
I think you have that the wrong way round, you need the garage first 
to put all the tools in for fixing the house.
And, make sure its big enough to take the Q as well 


Jim
*From:* chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:25 PM
*To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
It will be quite a while before it gets done anyway.
I bought a new (150 year old) house which needs ‘a bit’ of work.
Once the house is done I can build the new garage THEN carry on with 
the Q rebuild !!

Chris G
*From:* 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:51 PM
*To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
Be careful mixing stainless steel and aluminium.  You might quickly 
find you have less aluminium than when you started!  Use some 
plastic/rubber washers to isolate the 2 if possible.

Regards,
Steve
On 11/02/2020 13:44, chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group wrote:
The bloke who built mine had made some out of aluminium (badly) and 
had used steel self tappers to hold it on.

The screws had rusted solid and had to be drilled out.
I intend to made some better ones out of aluminium and use stainless 
rivnuts.

Chris G
*From:* Derek Clews
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:12 AM
*To:* Quantum Owners Forum
*Cc:* Derek Clews
*Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose 
cone off.  (Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more 
recent refit with the redesigned front lights shape. If you do not 
have liners I would have thought the lights and wiring would have 
got a pounding and would need to be very waterproof.

My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium.
Derek


On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne  wrote:
I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of 
the nose cone.
And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner 
and outer wings that supplys air to the heater system.
I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water 
from a big puddle to splash up there and enter the car.

Jim
*From:* 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
*To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
Hi Derek et al
My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and 
I've not found any downside to that.
Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay 
but during a full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of 
the bulkhead to accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold.

http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6
As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig 
if stainless fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are 
reachable, just, with a cutting disc on an angle grinder.

Best regards
Bill
On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews 
 wrote:

Dear All,
Took off the nose cone today. The inner wheel arch covers that fill 
the back of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted 
on.  I did wonder if there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets 
are quite practical and easy enough to reset, so maybe not. But I 
note that production vehicles now use a plastic clip sys

Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[Jim Hearne]

We only looked at houses with a double garage !

Jim


From: Derek Clews 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:40 PM
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

He! He!  Yes when we were looking for our current house the joke with the 
estate agent was that we wanted a Garage with a house attached…… 

Derek



  On 11 Feb 2020, at 14:27, Jim Hearne  wrote:

  I think you have that the wrong way round, you need the garage first to put 
all the tools in for fixing the house.
  And, make sure its big enough to take the Q as well 

  Jim


  From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:25 PM
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

  It will be quite a while before it gets done anyway.
  I bought a new (150 year old) house which needs ‘a bit’ of work.
  Once the house is done I can build the new garage THEN carry on with the Q 
rebuild !!

  Chris G

  From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:51 PM
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

  Be careful mixing stainless steel and aluminium.  You might quickly find you 
have less aluminium than when you started!  Use some plastic/rubber washers to 
isolate the 2 if possible.

  Regards,
  Steve

  On 11/02/2020 13:44, chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group wrote:

The bloke who built mine had made some out of aluminium (badly) and had 
used steel self tappers to hold it on.
The screws had rusted solid and had to be drilled out.
I intend to made some better ones out of aluminium and use stainless 
rivnuts.

Chris G

From: Derek Clews 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:12 AM
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose cone 
off.  (Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more recent refit with the 
redesigned front lights shape. If you do not have liners I would have thought 
the lights and wiring would have got a pounding and would need to be very 
waterproof.   

My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium.  

Derek



  On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne  wrote:

  I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of the 
nose cone.
  And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and 
outer wings that supplys air to the heater system.
  I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from a 
big puddle to splash up there and enter the car.

  Jim



  From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

  Hi Derek et al


  My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've not 
found any downside to that. 


  Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but 
during a full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 


  
http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6


  As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if 
stainless fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, just, 
with a cutting disc on an angle grinder.


  Best regards
  Bill 



  On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews 
 wrote: 


  Dear All,


  Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the 
back of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder 
if there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last?  


  What have you done?  What is the best?  


  Cheers


  Derek


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[Derek Clews]

He! He!  Yes when we were looking for our current house the joke with the 
estate agent was that we wanted a Garage with a house attached……

Derek

> On 11 Feb 2020, at 14:27, Jim Hearne  wrote:
> 
> I think you have that the wrong way round, you need the garage first to put 
> all the tools in for fixing the house.
> And, make sure its big enough to take the Q as well 
>  
> Jim
>  
>  
> From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group <>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:25 PM
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
>  
> It will be quite a while before it gets done anyway.
> I bought a new (150 year old) house which needs ‘a bit’ of work.
> Once the house is done I can build the new garage THEN carry on with the Q 
> rebuild !!
>  
> Chris G
>  
> From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group <>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:51 PM
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
>  
> Be careful mixing stainless steel and aluminium.  You might quickly find you 
> have less aluminium than when you started!  Use some plastic/rubber washers 
> to isolate the 2 if possible.
> Regards,
> Steve
> On 11/02/2020 13:44, chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group wrote:
>> The bloke who built mine had made some out of aluminium (badly) and had used 
>> steel self tappers to hold it on.
>> The screws had rusted solid and had to be drilled out.
>> I intend to made some better ones out of aluminium and use stainless rivnuts.
>>  
>> Chris G
>>  
>> From: Derek Clews <>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:12 AM
>> To: Quantum Owners Forum <>
>> Cc: Derek Clews <>
>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
>>  
>> My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose cone off. 
>>  (Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more recent refit with the 
>> redesigned front lights shape. If you do not have liners I would have 
>> thought the lights and wiring would have got a pounding and would need to be 
>> very waterproof.  
>>  
>> My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium. 
>>  
>> Derek
>>  
>> 
>>> On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne > wrote:
>>>  
>>> I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of the nose 
>>> cone.
>>> And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and outer 
>>> wings that supplys air to the heater system.
>>> I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from a big 
>>> puddle to splash up there and enter the car.
>>>  
>>> Jim
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group <>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
>>> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <>
>>> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
>>>  
>>> Hi Derek et al
>>>  
>>> My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've not 
>>> found any downside to that. 
>>>  
>>> Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but during 
>>> a full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
>>> accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 
>>>  
>>> http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if 
>>> stainless fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, just, 
>>> with a cutting disc on an angle grinder.
>>>  
>>> Best regards
>>> Bill 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews 
>>> > wrote:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Dear All,
>>>  
>>> Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the 
>>> back of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did 
>>> wonder if there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite 
>>> practical and easy enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that 
>>> production vehicles now use a plastic clip system for the same job.  
>>> Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be the deluxe version.  But maybe they 
>>> would not last?  
>>>  
>>> What have you done?  What is the best?  
>>>  
>>> Cheers
>>>  
>>> Derek
>>>  
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[susanandmartin]

I made moulds for mine using aluminium, and then used GRP to make the finished 
parts– I think I kept the aluminium moulds somewhere. If you wax your aluminium 
ones( or tape them) you may be able to make GRP ones off them?
Martin

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From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: 11 February 2020 13:44
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

The bloke who built mine had made some out of aluminium (badly) and had used 
steel self tappers to hold it on.
The screws had rusted solid and had to be drilled out.
I intend to made some better ones out of aluminium and use stainless rivnuts.
 
Chris G
 
From: Derek Clews 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:12 AM
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
 
My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose cone off.  
(Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more recent refit with the 
redesigned front lights shape. If you do not have liners I would have thought 
the lights and wiring would have got a pounding and would need to be very 
waterproof.   
 
My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium.  
 
Derek
 


On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne  wrote:
 
I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of the nose 
cone.
And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and outer 
wings that supplys air to the heater system.
I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from a big 
puddle to splash up there and enter the car.
 
Jim
 
 
 
From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
 
Hi Derek et al
 
My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've not found 
any downside to that. 
 
Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but during a 
full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 
 
http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6
 
 
As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if stainless 
fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, just, with a 
cutting disc on an angle grinder.
 
Best regards
Bill 

 
 
On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews  
wrote: 
 
 
Dear All,
 
Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the back 
of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder if 
there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last?  
 
What have you done?  What is the best?  
 
Cheers
 
Derek
 
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[Jim Hearne]

I think you have that the wrong way round, you need the garage first to put all 
the tools in for fixing the house.
And, make sure its big enough to take the Q as well 

Jim


From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:25 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

It will be quite a while before it gets done anyway.
I bought a new (150 year old) house which needs ‘a bit’ of work.
Once the house is done I can build the new garage THEN carry on with the Q 
rebuild !!

Chris G

From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:51 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

Be careful mixing stainless steel and aluminium.  You might quickly find you 
have less aluminium than when you started!  Use some plastic/rubber washers to 
isolate the 2 if possible.


Regards,
Steve


On 11/02/2020 13:44, chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group wrote:

  The bloke who built mine had made some out of aluminium (badly) and had used 
steel self tappers to hold it on.
  The screws had rusted solid and had to be drilled out.
  I intend to made some better ones out of aluminium and use stainless rivnuts.

  Chris G

  From: Derek Clews 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:12 AM
  To: Quantum Owners Forum 
  Cc: Derek Clews 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

  My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose cone off.  
(Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more recent refit with the 
redesigned front lights shape. If you do not have liners I would have thought 
the lights and wiring would have got a pounding and would need to be very 
waterproof.   

  My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium.  

  Derek



On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne  wrote:

I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of the nose 
cone.
And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and outer 
wings that supplys air to the heater system.
I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from a big 
puddle to splash up there and enter the car.

Jim



From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

Hi Derek et al


My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've not 
found any downside to that. 


Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but during 
a full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 



http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6


As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if 
stainless fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, just, 
with a cutting disc on an angle grinder.


Best regards
Bill 



On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews 
 wrote: 


Dear All,


Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the 
back of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder 
if there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last?  


What have you done?  What is the best?  


Cheers


Derek


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group]

It will be quite a while before it gets done anyway.
I bought a new (150 year old) house which needs ‘a bit’ of work.
Once the house is done I can build the new garage THEN carry on with the Q 
rebuild !!

Chris G

From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:51 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

Be careful mixing stainless steel and aluminium.  You might quickly find you 
have less aluminium than when you started!  Use some plastic/rubber washers to 
isolate the 2 if possible.


Regards,
Steve


On 11/02/2020 13:44, chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group wrote:

  The bloke who built mine had made some out of aluminium (badly) and had used 
steel self tappers to hold it on.
  The screws had rusted solid and had to be drilled out.
  I intend to made some better ones out of aluminium and use stainless rivnuts.

  Chris G

  From: Derek Clews 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:12 AM
  To: Quantum Owners Forum 
  Cc: Derek Clews 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

  My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose cone off.  
(Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more recent refit with the 
redesigned front lights shape. If you do not have liners I would have thought 
the lights and wiring would have got a pounding and would need to be very 
waterproof.   

  My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium.  

  Derek



On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne  wrote:

I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of the nose 
cone.
And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and outer 
wings that supplys air to the heater system.
I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from a big 
puddle to splash up there and enter the car.

Jim



From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

Hi Derek et al


My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've not 
found any downside to that. 


Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but during 
a full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 



http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6


As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if 
stainless fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, just, 
with a cutting disc on an angle grinder.


Best regards
Bill 



On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews 
 wrote: 


Dear All,


Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the 
back of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder 
if there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last?  


What have you done?  What is the best?  


Cheers


Derek


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group]

Yep, I knew that

From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:51 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

Be careful mixing stainless steel and aluminium.  You might quickly find you 
have less aluminium than when you started!  Use some plastic/rubber washers to 
isolate the 2 if possible.


Regards,
Steve


On 11/02/2020 13:44, chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group wrote:

  The bloke who built mine had made some out of aluminium (badly) and had used 
steel self tappers to hold it on.
  The screws had rusted solid and had to be drilled out.
  I intend to made some better ones out of aluminium and use stainless rivnuts.

  Chris G

  From: Derek Clews 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:12 AM
  To: Quantum Owners Forum 
  Cc: Derek Clews 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

  My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose cone off.  
(Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more recent refit with the 
redesigned front lights shape. If you do not have liners I would have thought 
the lights and wiring would have got a pounding and would need to be very 
waterproof.   

  My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium.  

  Derek



On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne  wrote:

I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of the nose 
cone.
And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and outer 
wings that supplys air to the heater system.
I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from a big 
puddle to splash up there and enter the car.

Jim



From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

Hi Derek et al


My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've not 
found any downside to that. 


Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but during 
a full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 



http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6


As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if 
stainless fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, just, 
with a cutting disc on an angle grinder.


Best regards
Bill 



On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews 
 wrote: 


Dear All,


Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the 
back of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder 
if there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last?  


What have you done?  What is the best?  


Cheers


Derek


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

['Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group]

Be careful mixing stainless steel and aluminium.  You might quickly find 
you have less aluminium than when you started!  Use some plastic/rubber 
washers to isolate the 2 if possible.


Regards,
Steve

On 11/02/2020 13:44, chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group wrote:
The bloke who built mine had made some out of aluminium (badly) and 
had used steel self tappers to hold it on.

The screws had rusted solid and had to be drilled out.
I intend to made some better ones out of aluminium and use stainless 
rivnuts.

Chris G
*From:* Derek Clews 
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:12 AM
*To:* Quantum Owners Forum 
*Cc:* Derek Clews 
*Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose 
cone off.  (Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more recent 
refit with the redesigned front lights shape. If you do not have 
liners I would have thought the lights and wiring would have got a 
pounding and would need to be very waterproof.

My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium.
Derek

On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne > wrote:
I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of 
the nose cone.
And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and 
outer wings that supplys air to the heater system.
I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from 
a big puddle to splash up there and enter the car.

Jim
*From:* 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
*To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
Hi Derek et al
My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've 
not found any downside to that.
Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but 
during a full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the 
bulkhead to accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold.

http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6
As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if 
stainless fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, 
just, with a cutting disc on an angle grinder.

Best regards
Bill
On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews 
mailto:derekcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear All,
Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill 
the back of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  
I did wonder if there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are 
quite practical and easy enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note 
that production vehicles now use a plastic clip system for the same 
job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be the deluxe version.  But 
maybe they would not last?

What have you done? What is the best?
Cheers
Derek
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[Jim Hearne]

Mine appear to have been made out of white formica sheet.

Jim


From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 1:44 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

The bloke who built mine had made some out of aluminium (badly) and had used 
steel self tappers to hold it on.
The screws had rusted solid and had to be drilled out.
I intend to made some better ones out of aluminium and use stainless rivnuts.

Chris G

From: Derek Clews 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:12 AM
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose cone off.  
(Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more recent refit with the 
redesigned front lights shape. If you do not have liners I would have thought 
the lights and wiring would have got a pounding and would need to be very 
waterproof.   

My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium.  

Derek



  On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne  wrote:

  I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of the nose 
cone.
  And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and outer 
wings that supplys air to the heater system.
  I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from a big 
puddle to splash up there and enter the car.

  Jim



  From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

  Hi Derek et al


  My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've not 
found any downside to that. 


  Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but during a 
full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 


  
http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6


  As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if 
stainless fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, just, 
with a cutting disc on an angle grinder.


  Best regards
  Bill 



  On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews  
wrote: 


  Dear All,


  Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the back 
of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder if 
there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last?  


  What have you done?  What is the best?  


  Cheers


  Derek


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group]

The bloke who built mine had made some out of aluminium (badly) and had used 
steel self tappers to hold it on.
The screws had rusted solid and had to be drilled out.
I intend to made some better ones out of aluminium and use stainless rivnuts.

Chris G

From: Derek Clews 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 10:12 AM
To: Quantum Owners Forum 
Cc: Derek Clews 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose cone off.  
(Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more recent refit with the 
redesigned front lights shape. If you do not have liners I would have thought 
the lights and wiring would have got a pounding and would need to be very 
waterproof.   

My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium.  

Derek



  On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne  wrote:

  I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of the nose 
cone.
  And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and outer 
wings that supplys air to the heater system.
  I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from a big 
puddle to splash up there and enter the car.

  Jim



  From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

  Hi Derek et al


  My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've not 
found any downside to that. 


  Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but during a 
full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 


  
http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6


  As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if 
stainless fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, just, 
with a cutting disc on an angle grinder.


  Best regards
  Bill 



  On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews  
wrote: 


  Dear All,


  Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the back 
of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder if 
there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last?  


  What have you done?  What is the best?  


  Cheers


  Derek


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[Derek Clews]

My coupe had S/S fasteners and it was a non-event to take the nose cone off.  
(Sorry to those who have struggled!)  It was a more recent refit with the 
redesigned front lights shape. If you do not have liners I would have thought 
the lights and wiring would have got a pounding and would need to be very 
waterproof.  

My covers are plastic, but my son’s car has aluminium.  

Derek


> On 11 Feb 2020, at 08:31, Jim Hearne  wrote:
> 
> I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of the nose 
> cone.
> And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and outer 
> wings that supplys air to the heater system.
> I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from a big 
> puddle to splash up there and enter the car.
>  
> Jim
>  
>  
>  
> From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group <>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
>  
> Hi Derek et al
>  
> My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've not 
> found any downside to that. 
>  
> Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but during a 
> full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
> accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 
>  
> http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6
>  
> 
>  
>  
> As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if 
> stainless fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, just, 
> with a cutting disc on an angle grinder.
>  
> Best regards
> Bill 
>  
>  
> On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> Dear All,
>  
> Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the back 
> of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder if 
> there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
> enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
> plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
> the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last?  
>  
> What have you done?  What is the best?  
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Derek
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[Jim Hearne]

I think they are partly to stop mud etc building up in the back of the nose 
cone.
And also they make more of a shield to the void between the inner and outer 
wings that supplys air to the heater system.
I imagine that without them that it might be possible for water from a big 
puddle to splash up there and enter the car.

Jim



From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:56 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

Hi Derek et al


My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've not found 
any downside to that. 


Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but during a 
full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 


http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6


As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if stainless 
fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, just, with a 
cutting disc on an angle grinder.


Best regards
Bill 



On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews  
wrote: 


Dear All,


Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the back 
of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder if 
there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last?  


What have you done?  What is the best?  


Cheers


Derek


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

['Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group]

Hi Derek et al

My saloon does not have and never has had such covers fitted and I've not found 
any downside to that. 

Just for interest, the radiator originally was in the engine bay but during a 
full rebuild a few years ago, I moved it in front of the bulkhead to 
accommodate a decent tubular exhaust manifold. 

http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/522/quantum-saloon-full-rebuild?page=6

As you've probably discovered, removing the nose cone can be a pig if stainless 
fasteners were not used to mount it, but all are reachable, just, with a 
cutting disc on an angle grinder.

Best regards
Bill 


On Monday, 10 February 2020, 19:36:59 GMT, Derek Clews 
 wrote:  
 
 Dear All,

Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the back 
of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder if 
there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last?  

What have you done?  What is the best?  

Cheers

Derek

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[Derek Clews]

I got the coupe as a part finished rebuild but Eddie fitted the new nose cone 
during the respray and pop rivets were his fit.

Derek

> On 10 Feb 2020, at 22:12, susanandmartin 
>  wrote:
> 
> I used the minimum of self-tappers for mine which (mostly) wedge into 
> position, so If I recall only 3 screws. Were yours supplied with the kit? I 
> had to make my own.
> Martin
>  
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> From: Derek Clews 
> Sent: 10 February 2020 18:33
> To: Quantum Owners Club 
> Cc: Derek Clews 
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
>  
> Dear All,
>  
> Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the back 
> of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did wonder if 
> there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite practical and easy 
> enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that production vehicles now use a 
> plastic clip system for the same job.  Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be 
> the deluxe version.  But maybe they would not last? 
>  
> What have you done?  What is the best? 
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Derek
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