date:20180401

On Mon, April 2, 2018 1:53 am, jonmchenry...@gmail.com wrote:
> Greetings,
>
>
> Over the last week I have tried installing Qubes OS 4.0 on my laptop.  I
> have tried both RC5 and the Full Release version (thinking the latter may
> have fixed the issue I'm facing).  In addition, I downloaded both twice
> and burned them twice to DVD, so I don't think it is a corruption issue.
> Each time I attempt install, everything goes fine until it attempts to
> start up Anaconda.  It always ends with it timing out and X server
> failing to start.  My laptop is an ASUS ROG with both an Intel and Nvidia
> GPU.  I have read through any threads I could find that are similar to
> what I'm dealing with but none seem to solve it.  In the past, I could
> use the nomodeset kernel option to get around a driver issue, but I am
> not given any option during boot to change any kernel options.  I'm not
> sure what to do at this point.  Forgive me if the answer has been given
> before and I simply have not come across it.  Thanks in advance for your
> assistance.

You may be able to hit TAB on installer boot which will allow you to edit
command line options. If not, try the suggestion at
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/uefi-troubleshooting/#change-installer-kernel-parameters-in-uefi.

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[qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0 Anaconda Time-Out X-Server Failed to Start

2018-04-01 Thread jonmchenry110

Greetings,

Over the last week I have tried installing Qubes OS 4.0 on my laptop.  I have 
tried both RC5 and the Full Release version (thinking the latter may have fixed 
the issue I'm facing).  In addition, I downloaded both twice and burned them 
twice to DVD, so I don't think it is a corruption issue.  Each time I attempt 
install, everything goes fine until it attempts to start up Anaconda.  It 
always ends with it timing out and X server failing to start.  My laptop is an 
ASUS ROG with both an Intel and Nvidia GPU.  I have read through any threads I 
could find that are similar to what I'm dealing with but none seem to solve it. 
 In the past, I could use the nomodeset kernel option to get around a driver 
issue, but I am not given any option during boot to change any kernel options.  
I'm not sure what to do at this point.  Forgive me if the answer has been given 
before and I simply have not come across it.  Thanks in advance for your 
assistance.

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Re: [qubes-users] Missing hard disk free space

2018-04-01 Thread Chris Laprise

On 04/01/2018 03:06 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:

On Sun, April 1, 2018 6:15 pm, cooloutac wrote:

Doesn't using trim on encrypted drive lessen security though?

In my opinion, it's so marginal a security decrease it hardly bears
mention. :) There's a link in the trim doc for further reading.

I'd like to remind people: Discard and TRIM are not exactly the same thing.

Commands like 'fstrim' only generate discards, and in a Qubes LVM setup
those discards will logically deallocate blocks in the pool, thus
freeing up space for filesystems.

If you enable 'discard' or 'disktrim' or whatever they call it these
days in crypttab, that will result in discards being converted into
hardware TRIM commands. That is because the crypto layer is the one
closest to the hardware in our configuration.

Does TRIM free up space? No. It helps the SSD maintain top write speeds
and perform more efficient wear-leveling. On some drives, it will also
cause the unallocated data to be wiped-out (according to vendor claims).

Does fstrim free up space? Yes! Because it actually generates discards
and the name is misleading.

IMO, the best thing to do is edit your dom0 /etc/fstab and add 'discard'
to the options for root fs '/'. That will free up space in a usable way
and you won't need to run fstrim.

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4 won't boot on Thinkpad T430

2018-04-01 Thread Chris Laprise


On 04/01/2018 05:19 PM, Ha L wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm having trouble booting Qubes 4 on Thinkpad T430. I managed to 
install Qubes 4 by turning off VT-d in the BIOS. If VT-d is turned on in 
the BIOS then Qubes simply does not boot.


I have tried to add 'iommu=no-igfx' option, I have removed it 
completely, I have also tried 'iommu=on' and 'iommu=force'. Nothing 
seems to work.


Prior to Qubes 4, I was able to boot Qubes.

Any help is appreciated, thank you all.


Does your T430 have Nvidia graphics? If so, you could try turning it off 
in the BIOS.


Also, you should try updating your BIOS if you haven't recently.


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[qubes-users] Qubes 4 won't boot on Thinkpad T430

2018-04-01 Thread Ha L

Hello everyone,

I'm having trouble booting Qubes 4 on Thinkpad T430. I managed to install
Qubes 4 by turning off VT-d in the BIOS. If VT-d is turned on in the BIOS
then Qubes simply does not boot.

I have tried to add 'iommu=no-igfx' option, I have removed it completely, I
have also tried 'iommu=on' and 'iommu=force'. Nothing seems to work.

Prior to Qubes 4, I was able to boot Qubes.

Any help is appreciated, thank you all.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Lenovo G505S Coreboot

2018-04-01 Thread Ivan Ivanov

Thank you very much for answering the qubesthrowaway's questions !
Regarding
> Some of us G505s users are putting together a page with tips on
Coreboot and Qubes, but I'm not sure where it will end up yet
- sorry for delay! we just got a bit distracted with KolibriOS driver stuff
(will be really awesome if that assembly network driver becomes a reality!),
in the same time we would like to
1) upgrade the LZMA libraries of coreboot/seabios - the currently used
ones are very very outdated
2) add paq8px compression support for putting even more useful stuff
to our small 4 MB BIOS chips
By the way it could be possible to upgrade a BIOS chip to 8 MB or even
to 16 MB ;-)
Asterysk has been trying to test this but accidentally damaged a
copper track on his motherboard,
so its going to take a while before we find out the answer to this question.
Ideally we'd like to stay at 4 MB, because if some of us would be
sitting at 8 MB / 16 MB
while everyone else is at 4 MB BIOS chips - that would result in
unnecessary fragmentation,
so more of our efforts should be going towards those "compression methods".
On average, paq8px is 25% better compression than LZMA used by coreboot/SeaBIOS,
but it is much slower - perhaps it is going to take about 3 minutes to
extract 1.44MB KolibriOS floppy
to boot it, although we have not tested this on bare metal (from
coreboot) yet - could be faster!
There are also some extra challenges, e.g. paq8px sources are C++ but
coreboot is C
and doesn't even have g++ in its' toolchains, so I'm unsure how to
merge them together.
And using a "random g++" provided by some distro does not guarantee
that this will be bootable.
Maybe you know a great way of how to put C++ code into coreboot and
make it compile?

Best regards,
Ivan Ivanov aka qmastery

2018-03-28 0:52 GMT+03:00 'awokd' via qubes-users
:
> On Mon, March 26, 2018 6:36 am, qubesthrowa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Could you please trim emails when you reply? It was hard to find your
> questions in all that text!
>
>> Would it be a bad idea to run a PCIe SSD off of this instead of the WiFi
>> card?
>
> I'm not sure you could fit one in there, the hole is only big enough for
> half-height mini-PCIe cards.
>
>> Would 1866MHz @ CL10 be as good/better?
>
> Not sure on this one; Coreboot can be picky on memory timings. Might have
> to dig in to the source code to see if that is supported, if nobody else
> knows.
>
>> I just ordered a G505S and several of these upgrades and I'm excited to
>> try flashing coreboot and getting Qubes going on it.  Thanks for all the
>> tips/help.
>
> Welcome! Some of us G505s users are putting together a page with tips on
> Coreboot and Qubes, but I'm not sure where it will end up yet.
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Re: [qubes-users] Missing hard disk free space

On Sun, April 1, 2018 6:15 pm, cooloutac wrote:
> Doesn't using trim on encrypted drive lessen security though?

In my opinion, it's so marginal a security decrease it hardly bears
mention. :) There's a link in the trim doc for further reading.


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[qubes-users] [Qubes 4.0] Debian 9 unusable

2018-04-01 Thread schwoereraxel

Hello all.
I was on Qubes 3.2 and I've switched of Qubes 4.0 but I have some problems :
In fact, I can't use and update/upgrade Debian 9.
And also, I would like to know how to switch the language of Qubes 4.0 ? I 
already made this on Qubes 3.2 before.
To finish, does it possible to sort the VM on the Qubes VM Manager ? Like 
TemplateVM with TemplateVM, and NetVM with NetVM, etc.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.0 audio, x2go

On Sun, April 1, 2018 6:17 pm, Chris Seekamp wrote:

> Does the latency problem in Qubes 4.0 still exist if I don't use
> USB for microphone/speakers but instead use the internal speakers/mic of
> the computer (or the headphones/computer mic jack)?

Not sure if it will help with what you're doing, but if you go to the dom0
Volume control audio mixer/Output Devices/Advanced, you can set a +/-
latency offset there.

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Re: [qubes-users] Remove original Template-VM, keeping the package for reinstallation

I did use qube-manager in global settings and selected sys-whonix as updatevm 
though,  which just sets it for dom0.  fedora template use default sys-firewall 
still I believe this way.

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Re: [qubes-users] Remove original Template-VM, keeping the package for reinstallation

On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 10:31:59 PM UTC-4, sevas wrote:
> Hi. I think that was only half of the answer. I have had this problem too: of 
> removing original templates; ie- debian-9, fedora-26.
> 
> The documentation; 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/remove-vm-manually/
> is only viable via templates that are not "installed by (system/dom0)".
> 
> The GUI gives the error "You cannot remove templates that were installed by 
> (system/dom0)". The TTY gives that error plus many more, even when following 
> the 
> documentation above. 
> 
> I had to reinstall my entire system because I interrupted a backup restore 
> and 
> the restore gave me too many templates that were "installed by system": 
> debian-9; debian-9-1; fedora-26; fedora-26-1
> 
> A small bug that should be noted: sometimes when deleting qubes, they still 
> have 
> a target.wants at boot.

I couldn't the original dvm template.  It was just keep telling domain was in 
use but I coudln't figure out where lol.  could delete custom dvm templates np. 
  Not sure about other default qubes didn't try.  Was curious about that myself 
never had that problem in 3.2

I have also had the exact same problem with restore,   was giving me double 
vms. Figured this out after reinstalling whole system lmao.  and it happened to 
me again and realized it was from restore backup.   It doubled the ones that 
were previously installed instead of overwriting them.

 But so instead of just deleting the ones with 0.0kb i just deleted all appvms 
and restored them again and let it finish.

now no errors on boot now except the usual failed to install kernel modules or 
something marek said while back it was safe to ignore.

Also made sure not to select use all template with whonix updatevm because then 
fedora can't update and you have to edit some config file.  I had to reinstall 
whole system cuase of that too just be on the safe side haha.

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0: Attaching optical drive to read data from

On Sun, April 1, 2018 5:21 pm, 00010age...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Use the device widget instead, or qvm-block from CLI.
>>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
> Actually, in 4.0, that command would be "qvm-device" as referenced at
> https://dev.qubes-os.org/projects/core-admin-client/en/latest/manpages/qv
> m-device.html

Strange, when I put a CD in mine it showed up just fine under qvm-block.


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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes Domains.py Widget Seems Wedged

On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 7:05:41 AM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> On Fri, March 30, 2018 10:01 am, William Bormann wrote:
> >
> 
> > I'm seeing an oddity with this widget.  At random, some VMs show the
> > update indicator as continuously spinning.  It appears to show a VM
> > always starting, but qvm-ls in dom0 shows the VM as started.  In a
> > nutshell, the widget seems to be unsure of the VM's state.
> >
> > Anyone else seeing this?  Is there a workaround/fix I can try?
> 
> Yes, see https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3660. A workaround
> is to use command line or Qube Manager instead if needed.

ya but then the qubes manager is in scrambled order and you have to keep 
refreshing it.If people just keep killing them will it corrupt data?

Sort of like a red flag to me too when thats happening.  

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.0 audio, x2go

2018-04-01 Thread Chris Seekamp

On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 8:43:00 PM UTC-4, Chris Seekamp wrote:
> I upgraded from Qubes 3.2 to 4.0. I had been using Qubes 3.2 for over a
> year. I have run into the following issues.
> 
> 1. I have been using an external USB device for audio-conferencing etc.
> because of the Qubes latency issues. In Qubes 3.2 it worked great.  I
> simply attached it to the VM I wanted to use it in and that was all
> there was to it. In Qubes 4.0, when I try to attach it I don't get an
> error but running the command "qvm-usb" does not show it attached. When
> I use a regular USB headset it attaches and works correctly, but of
> course will not solve the latency issue. Has anyone tested an external
> USB audio device successfully with Qubes 4.0. I did try making
> /dev/snd/* executable by all and reload PulseAudio's module-udev-detect
> but that didn't help.
> 
> 2. In Qubes 3.2 I had issues getting x2go to work and I reported it at
> the time. After trying the fedora templates, I tried debian 8 and it
> worked. Now in Qubes 4.0 I am having the problem again with both fedora
> 26 and debian 9.  debian 8 is no longer available it seems. I can ssh to
> the target server find over port 22 (which is the port x2go uses). Has
> anyone by any chance tried using x2go with Qubes 4.0 and had any
> success? I am of course using a VPN qube, which inherits from
> sys-firewall.  There doesn't seem to be a ProxyVM setting anymore like
> there was in Qubes 3.2.
> 
> I would like to note that so far the new Qubes Manager is, to me, more
> difficult to use than the old one. First of all, I have to constantly
> use the "Refresh qube list" button each time I do something and want to
> see if reflected. So the manager often is out of sync with reality, at
> least if you start or stop anything. Also, it seems to be slow when you
> do something (until the operation completes?).
> 
> I do like the GUI for attaching/detaching devices. Unfortunately it
> shows the same behavior as the command line when attaching the external
> audio device.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any enlightenment anyone can provide.
> 
> Chris Seekamp

OK, I have x2go working now.  I had an ssh command in my .bash_profile on the 
target computer which was responsible. When I removed it, I got x2go working. I 
am now using x2go from a Qube based on fedora 26.

I still have the problem with the external audio card.  I tried it on another 
computer and it works fine and of course it worked with Qubes OS 3.2.  Does the 
latency problem in Qubes 4.0 still exist if I don't use USB for 
microphone/speakers but instead use the internal speakers/mic of the computer 
(or the headphones/computer mic jack)? What I am referring to is this 
documentation page: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/external-audio/.  This seems 
to be saying that for things requiring high quality audio (even Skype) an 
external card is needed. I tried Skype test call using the mic/headphone jack 
and I assigned the mic to the Qube I was using and the test call went fine. So 
does the latency issue described on the page referenced above still exist? 
Before using the external audio card on Qubes 3.2 I did run into problems with 
the audio in audio/video conferences (the audio would drop sometimes) until I 
started using the external audio card.

Thanks.

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Re: [qubes-users] Missing hard disk free space

Doesn't using trim on encrypted drive lessen security though?

I'm still new to the whole ssd thing as well and more and more I dislike them 
lol.  Had a couple data losses with the one i use and sleep mode using qubes.   
Its nice they don't break if something crashes but they sure lose data easy.

Got a machine linux and windows don't sleep right always ones with an ssd lol.

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Re: [qubes-users] Missing hard disk free space

On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 5:45:42 AM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> On Thu, March 15, 2018 9:47 pm, donoban wrote:
> > Thanks for the info.
> >
> >
> > This also seems confusing
> > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/disk-trim/#luks
> >
> >
> > I did not anything of this but second part of step 5 seems working so
> > should I believe that TRIM is working ok?
> 
> It looks like R4.0 final requires at least the /etc/crypttab discard
> option be added, because when I tried to run fstrim -av without it, it
> kept telling me 0 bytes trimmed. rd.luks.option does not seem to be needed
> any more under R4.0.

oh shit we have to do this manually ourselves? lol I forgot what it was like to 
use linux.

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[qubes-users] Re: Cosider distributing an Ubuntu Image with a different name

On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 2:28:50 AM UTC-4, qubuntu wrote:
> It seems Ubuntu is not concerned about modified distro redistribution but 
> rather about modified redistribution with Ubuntu name in it.
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/88hph4/ubuntu_on_qubes_os_copyright/
> 
> 
> 
> That is rather reasonable. Cos people would make a very bad crappy distro and 
> have Ubuntu in the name. 
> 
> This would lead to Ubuntu gettiCan't Qubes devsng a very bad name and a lot 
> of memes.
> 
> 
> Ubuntu also seems to say that you need to recompile from sources incase of 
> redistribution.
> 
> 
> 
> Qubes devs are paranoid guys and I assume they compile from sources anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> So, can't you guys just rename Ubuntu to something else and distribute a 
> template?
> 
> 
> 
> Like Linux Mint, Zorin, Elementary or something else.
> 
> 
> 
> The main benefit I see from a Ubuntu template is PPAs which are not available 
> from any other distro.
> 
> 
> 
> For example there is a Android app runner which runs apps in container like 
> systems in Ubuntu PPA.
> 
> 
> 
> A lot of softwate is available in PPAs.
> 
> 
> 
> I hope I can see `Qubetoo` or `Qubtu` or `Quppa` or `Qubetu` or `Qubes too` 
> `Qubes tu` or `Qumate` or `Qumint` or `Qorin` or `cheesy name here` template 
> for Qubes with the 18.04 LTS release soon.
> 
> 
> 
> You may ask me to compile from sources, but it takes ages and I have to spend 
> hours and I ususally reinstall often which means I would have to compile often

what programs you need from Ubuntu?  can't install them in debian?   debian 
would be more secure just on updates alone you get them sooner then later.

Loved trisquel with the minimal flashback desktop, and fsf kernel.  ,  was 
building my own with grsec.   but for the same reason they based on debian then 
based on ubuntu you get updates double late. 1 to 30 days later man.  1 day 
later ok, but I wouldn't be using it for anything sensitive.



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Re: [qubes-users] Re: [Q4-rc5] Blank screen on boot after installation on Lenovo

2018-04-01 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki

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On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:25:18AM -, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> On Wed, March 28, 2018 2:09 am, berto0...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> It's in a bit of an indeterminate state right now:
> >> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2971. Did regenerating
> >> initramfs with host only fix it for you, or did you just leave the
> >> keyboard setting on US on the reinstall?
> >
> > Actually, I just pressed the keys as on an imaginary US keyboard after
> > realizing one key was in a different position. That's a quite common
> > method for non-US users -- you just need to be aware that you are dealing
> > with a moved key in the first place. And there is no feedback when typing
> > a password as first task on a new OS, obviously.
> 
> Sounds like that linked issue's not resolved. If you have a Github
> account, mind commenting on it with your experience and pinging
> @andrewdavidwong? I can do it later too, if you don't. If you get a chance
> to regenerate with -H, I'm curious if that fixes it too. Shouldn't (TM)
> hurt anything.

Have you tried final 4.0 image? There were some fixes that didn't
managed to get included in rc5.

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0: Attaching optical drive to read data from

On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 1:21:53 PM UTC-4, 00010...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Use the device widget instead, or qvm-block from CLI.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Actually, in 4.0, that command would be "qvm-device" as referenced at 
> https://dev.qubes-os.org/projects/core-admin-client/en/latest/manpages/qvm-device.html
> 
> Also, I noticed that the drive didn't auto-mount after being attached. So I 
> still needed to (b) find the device, (c) mount it manually:
> 
>   $ sudo fdisk -l
> 
>   $ sudo mount /dev/xvdi /mnt/removable
> 
> Is this expected behavior? If yes, is there a way to make these 3 steps 
> persistent in Qubes OS?

I believe it is for 4.0.  hopefully they make it easier in the future.  The 
less novice user is just gonna keep attaching whole controllers with mouse  
from widget as the easiest option for the same reasons. 

typing that in every time is real cumbersome.

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[qubes-users] Re: Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-04-01 Thread kimboamstaff

This was just to show the screen that you should press tab, I google it...

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0: Attaching optical drive to read data from

2018-04-01 Thread 00010agency

> Use the device widget instead, or qvm-block from CLI.

Thank you!

Actually, in 4.0, that command would be "qvm-device" as referenced at 
https://dev.qubes-os.org/projects/core-admin-client/en/latest/manpages/qvm-device.html

Also, I noticed that the drive didn't auto-mount after being attached. So I 
still needed to (b) find the device, (c) mount it manually:

  $ sudo fdisk -l

  $ sudo mount /dev/xvdi /mnt/removable

Is this expected behavior? If yes, is there a way to make these 3 steps 
persistent in Qubes OS?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Lenovo G505S Coreboot

2018-04-01 Thread qubesthrowaway

On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 10:20:29 AM UTC-5, awokd wrote:
> On Sun, April 1, 2018 2:53 pm, qubesthrowa...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> 1) Erase a BIOS chip and flash it with coreboot -
> >> http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Flashing_a_BIOS_chip_with_Bus_Pirat
> >> e . For a BIOS image you could either:
> >
> > I decided to use your prebuilt rom and flashed it successfully on my
> > G505s last night.  Afterwards, I began the Qubes 4.0 installation.  It
> > installed fine, but following the restart it freezes while setting up the
> > Template VMs.  I waiting several hours to verify that it was indeed
> > frozen.  I restarted and tried setup again and it keeps freezing at
> > various points (Fedora Template, Debian Template, Whonix).  I then tried
> > a fresh reinstall but that yielded the same result.
> >
> > I'm currently in the process of downloading 4.0 again and I'll try the
> > install on a different usb stick.  Is there anything else that I might
> > try to make this work?  Thanks for any assistance.
> 
> If you're referring to the rom from Qmaster's post from a year ago, it
> doesn't contain the microcode update needed to run 4.0. See
> https://review.coreboot.org/22843? . There are some more notes
> http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Lenovo_G505S_hacking, but be warned
> it's still pretty rough. I can help you build your own Coreboot image with
> the patch or if you trust anonymous strangers bearing gifts, send you the
> one I built for myself. Let me know if you need either!

I'd love to try your prebuilt one!

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[qubes-users] HCL - Latitude E7470 - R4.0

2018-04-01 Thread 'Neelix' via qubes-users


Hello,

I have tested R4.0 on the E7470 in legacy mode, it works fine out of the
box.


untested:

 uefi (not planning to)
camera
mics
thunderbold
bluetooth
AEM (planning to install and test very soon)



Regards,

Neelix


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[qubes-users] Re: Does 4.0 let you restore your VM backups from 3.2?

On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 11:54:03 AM UTC-4, tai...@gmx.com wrote:
> ^title
> 
> Thanks

yes.

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0: Attaching optical drive to read data from

On Sun, April 1, 2018 3:52 pm, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> On Sun, April 1, 2018 2:22 pm, 00010age...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> When I insert a data DVD (that I only want to read from) into my
>> integrated optical drive, the usual pop up says that the drive is
>> available ("Device: dom0:sr0 ... is available").
>>
>> However, when I then go into the Qube Mananger, select for example the
>> "personal" Qube, then click on the menu option "Attach/detach block
>> devices" in the menu "Qube", then there does not appear anything, so no
>> optical drive either.
>>
>> Am I doing something wrong?
>>
>
> No, but it does seem to be a bug in Qube Manager. Use the device widget
> instead, or qvm-block from CLI.

Submitted bug report under
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3772.

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Re: [qubes-users] How do I load firmware-atheros into Qubes 4.0 R5?

On 03/30/2018 09:24 AM, Holger Levsen wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 03:38:34PM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
>> My issue is with purisms incredibly dishonest marketing, their pressure
>> campaigns on the FSF, their insulting of their competitors - not their
>> existence in general or the practice of selling of laptops that are only
>> slightly more free than a dell.
> Taiidan, this is the qubes-users mailing list, ment to discuss issues
> and joys with Qubes OS.
It has been about more than just qubes for a long time now - general
privacy/security threads are good to have.
I have been here for years and on other ML's for longer so I know it is
better to not have strict on-topic rules.
Not to mention that for a long time purisms laptops were recommended by
the purism developers (so I believe it is somewhat on topic) in exchange
for kickbacks despite being a terrible choice for privacy/security my
for the price of one purism you could have bought both a nice owner
controlled laptop (G505S) and a libre VM gaming desktop (KCMA-D8 or
KGPE-D16 plus other parts) that both run qubes 4.0.
> Whatever you think of Purism is really not
> suited that well on this list.
Why?
> If you want to educate people, I'd like to suggest you take it elsewhere.
Where exactly? To some place maybe a "free speech zone" where no one
will hear me or care?
> either private
Private? what?
> or some other public list or setup a wiki page or whatever.
>
> If everybody beats up their favorite horse on this list, this list
> will become a lot more noisy and less useful for everyone. For example I
> don't think using Thunderbird for reading email is a reasonable choice
> for users interested in reasonable security, but I wont mention that in
> every (not even any...) thread discussing thunderbird. Same can be said
> about many many topics.
I would definitely appreciate a thunderbird thread and I think you
should make one as how I make my counter-puricrapism posts.
I am the only critical voice whereas purism has the entire tech media on
their side somehow issuing glorified press releases and always failing
to mention that their marketing is full of lies.

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Re: [qubes-users] How do I load firmware-atheros into Qubes 4.0 R5?

I am more than happy to help the next time you are in the market for a
computer :] it is a damn shame how dishonest purism isbut there are
still some honest companies out there selling real libre products.

Btw the debian template is not as secure due to their silly position on
starting unconfigured daemons by default the moment you install them.

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[qubes-users] Does 4.0 let you restore your VM backups from 3.2?

^title

Thanks

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0: Attaching optical drive to read data from

On Sun, April 1, 2018 2:22 pm, 00010age...@gmail.com wrote:
> When I insert a data DVD (that I only want to read from) into my
> integrated optical drive, the usual pop up says that the drive is
> available ("Device: dom0:sr0 ... is available").
>
> However, when I then go into the Qube Mananger, select for example the
> "personal" Qube, then click on the menu option "Attach/detach block
> devices" in the menu "Qube", then there does not appear anything, so no
> optical drive either.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?

No, but it does seem to be a bug in Qube Manager. Use the device widget
instead, or qvm-block from CLI.


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Lenovo G505S Coreboot

FYI the microcode update is mandatory no matter what OS you are running
otherwise I could literally root your computer with a few commands due
to the NMI exploit on piledriver CPU's and of course the IOMMU wouldn't
work either so no DMA protection.

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 4.0 has been released!

2018-04-01 Thread Amilton Justino

Em quarta-feira, 28 de março de 2018 13:36:46 UTC-4, Andrew David Wong  
escreveu:
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> After nearly two years in development and countless hours of testing,
> we're pleased to announce the stable release of Qubes OS 4.0!
> 
> 
> Major changes in version 4.0
> 
> 
> Version 4.0 includes several fundamental improvements to the security
> and functionality of Qubes OS:
> 
>  * The Qubes Admin API [01]
>  * Qubes Core Stack version 3 [02]
>  * Fully virtualized VMs for enhanced security [03]
>  * Multiple, flexible Disposable VM templates [04]
>  * A more expressive, user-friendly Qubes RPC policy system [05]
>  * A powerful new VM volume manager that makes it easy to keep VMs on
>external drives [06]
>  * Enhanced TemplateVM security via split packages [07] and network
>interface removal [08]
>  * More secure backups with scrypt for stronger key derivation [09] and
>enforced encryption
>  * Rewritten command-line tools with new options [10]
> 
> This release delivers on the features we promised in our announcement of
> Qubes 4.0-rc1 [11], with some course corrections along the way, such as
> the switch from HVM to PVH for most VMs in response to Meltdown and
> Spectre [03]. For more details, please see the full Release Notes [12].
> The Qubes 4.0 installation image is available on the Downloads [13]
> page, along with the complete Installation Guide [14].
> 
> 
> Current 4.0 release candidate users
> ===
> 
> In our Qubes 4.0-rc5 announcement [15], we explained that if the testing
> of 4.0-rc5 did not reveal any major problems, we would declare it to be
> the stable 4.0 release without any further significant changes and that,
> in this scenario, any bugs discovered during the testing process would
> be fixed in subsequent updates. This is, in fact, what has occurred. We
> found that, with the fifth release candidate, 4.0 had finally reached a
> level of stability that met our standards such that we were comfortable
> designating it the stable release. Accordingly, current users of 4.0-rc5
> can upgrade in-place by downloading the latest updates from the *stable*
> repositories in both dom0 [16] and TemplateVMs [17].
> 
> We know that this stable release has been a long time in coming for many
> you. We sincerely appreciate your patience. Thank you for sticking with
> us. We're especially grateful to all of you who have contributed code
> [18] and documentation [19] to this release, tested [20] release
> candidates, and diligently reported bugs [21]. This stable release would
> not have been possible without your efforts. Your involvement makes
> Qubes a truly open-source project. Your energy, skill, and good will
> make this project a joy to work on. We are lucky to have you.
> 
> 
> The past and the future
> ===
> 
> Since first announcing extended support for Qubes 3.2 [22], we
> determined that users would be better served by having a version of
> Qubes 3.2 with updated TemplateVMs and a newer kernel. We've designated
> this release Qubes 3.2.1. As the name suggests, this is a point release
> for Qubes 3.2 that does not contain any major changes, and it is this
> release to which the extended support period will apply. We intend for
> Qubes 3.2.1 to be a viable alternative to version 4.0 for those who wish
> to use Qubes on hardware that does not meet the system requirements for
> Qubes 4.0 [23]. While our standard policy [24] is to support each Qubes
> release for six months after the next major or minor release, the
> special extension for 3.2.1 raises this period to one full year.
> Therefore, the stable release of Qubes 4.0 sets the EOL (end-of-life)
> date for Qubes 3.2.1 at one year from today on 2019-03-28. We expect
> 3.2.1 to be available soon, after Kernel 4.9 testing is completed.
> 
> Looking forward, our work on Qubes 4.x has only just begun. Our sights
> are now set on Qubes 4.1, for which we have a growing list [25] of
> planned enhancements to nearly every aspect of Qubes OS. Whether you're
> new to Qubes or have been here for years, we welcome you to join us and
> get involved [26]. We've personally chosen to devote our time and skills
> to making Qubes freely available to the world because we believe that
> being open-source is essential to Qubes being trustworthy and secure. If
> Qubes is valuable to you, we ask that you please consider making a
> donation [27] to the project. With your support, we can continue to make
> reasonable security a reality for many years to come.
> 
> 
> [01] https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2017/06/27/qubes-admin-api/
> [02] https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2017/10/03/core3/
> [03] 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-secpack/blob/master/QSBs/qsb-037-2018.txt
> [04] https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2253
> [05] 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qrexec3/#extra-keywords-available-in-qubes-40-and-later
> [06]

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Cannot load R4.0 installer: 'Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network'; ' X startup failed[Xorg:12xx].'

On Sun, April 1, 2018 3:13 pm, kimboamst...@gmail.com wrote:
> In this screen:
>
>
> https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/6240983/33285851-d142621e-d3b3-
> 11e7-9a70-469412d4a868.jpg

It looks like you are trying to install rc3? 4.0 final shipped earlier
this week, maybe you should download and try the newest version instead?


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Lenovo G505S Coreboot

On Sun, April 1, 2018 2:53 pm, qubesthrowa...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 1) Erase a BIOS chip and flash it with coreboot -
>> http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Flashing_a_BIOS_chip_with_Bus_Pirat
>> e . For a BIOS image you could either:
>
> I decided to use your prebuilt rom and flashed it successfully on my
> G505s last night.  Afterwards, I began the Qubes 4.0 installation.  It
> installed fine, but following the restart it freezes while setting up the
> Template VMs.  I waiting several hours to verify that it was indeed
> frozen.  I restarted and tried setup again and it keeps freezing at
> various points (Fedora Template, Debian Template, Whonix).  I then tried
> a fresh reinstall but that yielded the same result.
>
> I'm currently in the process of downloading 4.0 again and I'll try the
> install on a different usb stick.  Is there anything else that I might
> try to make this work?  Thanks for any assistance.

If you're referring to the rom from Qmaster's post from a year ago, it
doesn't contain the microcode update needed to run 4.0. See
https://review.coreboot.org/22843? . There are some more notes
http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Lenovo_G505S_hacking, but be warned
it's still pretty rough. I can help you build your own Coreboot image with
the patch or if you trust anonymous strangers bearing gifts, send you the
one I built for myself. Let me know if you need either!


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[qubes-users] Re: Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-04-01 Thread kimboamstaff

In this screen:

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/6240983/33285851-d142621e-d3b3-11e7-9a70-469412d4a868.jpg

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Lenovo G505S Coreboot

2018-04-01 Thread qubesthrowaway

> 1) Erase a BIOS chip and flash it with coreboot - 
> http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Flashing_a_BIOS_chip_with_Bus_Pirate . 
> For a BIOS image you could either:

I decided to use your prebuilt rom and flashed it successfully on my G505s last 
night.  Afterwards, I began the Qubes 4.0 installation.  It installed fine, but 
following the restart it freezes while setting up the Template VMs.  I waiting 
several hours to verify that it was indeed frozen.  I restarted and tried setup 
again and it keeps freezing at various points (Fedora Template, Debian 
Template, Whonix).  I then tried a fresh reinstall but that yielded the same 
result.

I'm currently in the process of downloading 4.0 again and I'll try the install 
on a different usb stick.  Is there anything else that I might try to make this 
work?  Thanks for any assistance.

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[qubes-users] HCL - Dell Inspiron 14z 5423

2018-04-01 Thread Amilton Justino

Completely compatible with R4.0. Notebook, fully functional, including ipv6.
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PGP Key ID 01AD6182

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[qubes-users] Qubes 4.0: Attaching optical drive to read data from

2018-04-01 Thread 00010agency

When I insert a data DVD (that I only want to read from) into my integrated 
optical drive, the usual pop up says that the drive is available ("Device: 
dom0:sr0 ... is available").

However, when I then go into the Qube Mananger, select for example the 
"personal" Qube, then click on the menu option "Attach/detach block devices" in 
the menu "Qube", then there does not appear anything, so no optical drive 
either.

Am I doing something wrong?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-04-01 Thread 'Tuq Sagago' via qubes-users

Managed finally to get some blank DVDs and booted with your settings.
I'm still having the same problem though and can't get to the installer screen.
At which point did you press tab?

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On 30 Mar 2018, 01:11, wrote:

> Remembered another thing about DVD
>
> Burned in ubuntu. Tried to burn in windows but didn't worked out -_-(problems 
> in the dvd, was recorded but in a wrong way, don't ask me how because I don't 
> know =/ srry about that)
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Re: [qubes-users] Missing hard disk free space

On Thu, March 15, 2018 9:47 pm, donoban wrote:
> Thanks for the info.
>
>
> This also seems confusing
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/disk-trim/#luks
>
>
> I did not anything of this but second part of step 5 seems working so
> should I believe that TRIM is working ok?

It looks like R4.0 final requires at least the /etc/crypttab discard
option be added, because when I tried to run fstrim -av without it, it
kept telling me 0 bytes trimmed. rd.luks.option does not seem to be needed
any more under R4.0.


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Re: [qubes-users] X230 won't boot into Qubes after installing 4.0

2018-04-01 Thread 799

Hello Andreas,

Andreas Rasmussen  schrieb am So., 1.
Apr. 2018, 10:44:

> I tried to install Qubes 4.0 on my Lenovo Thinkpad X230. The install went
> smoothly without having to do any work in the BIOS.
>
> However, upon reboot/startup I get the following error and then a black
> screen. Any clues to how I should continue?
> [...]


Check this here:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2841

I am unsure if iommu=no-igfx is the right option for the X230.
I would press "e" on boot and edit the grub prompt, let us know how it
works with changing the iommu-setting upon boot.

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[qubes-users] X230 won't boot into Qubes after installing 4.0

2018-04-01 Thread Andreas Rasmussen

I tried to install Qubes 4.0 on my Lenovo Thinkpad X230. The install went 
smoothly without having to do any work in the BIOS.

However, upon reboot/startup I get the following error and then a black screen. 
Any clues to how I should continue?

I installed Qubes 3.2 without problems and have been using 3.2 on this machine 
since the release.

best,
Andreas

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Re: [qubes-users] Cloning AppVm to Secondary Drive fail on R4.0