[RBW] Re: Hypothetical Bombadil trade and observations.

2010-02-12 Thread Earl Grey
A tire that comes to mind (though I haven't tried it) for longer
rides where I am carrying my panniers to go camping, but only on
groomed mixed terrain, dirt roads etc. is the 650B 42mm Grand Bois
Hetre. And there is nothing like it in 700C. I'd throw some of those
on the Bomba and see how that works for your intended purpose. Given
your requirements, the Hetre sounds like the perfect tire, which means
sticking with 650B. :)

Gernot


On Feb 12, 10:22 am, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Feb 11, 7:25 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

  Personally, I like my bikes versatile, and I'd rather have two
  versatile bikes that are too similar then two different bikes that
  are limited in their versatility but occupy different niches. Make
  them different through different set-ups.

 I agree regarding the niche thing. That was all I had and it was weird
 to have 4 bikes, none of which would really do just a simple mixed
 terrain ride. Sure my full suspension would, but it was a dog on
 anything paved.

 In what way do you think a
  700c Romulus would serve you better than a Bomba for longer rides
  where I am carrying my panniers to go camping, but only on groomed
  mixed terrain, dirt roads etc.?
  Do you think it would be faster/more responsive? Do you just want it
  to feel more different?

 This is the $2000 question. As far as something like a Rom, Ram, or
 Hillborne serving better for packed camping use, I dont think they
 would or would not. I think they would all do equally great. The only
 advantage I see a 700c set up giving me over the Bombadil would be on
 paved century rides.

 How are your Bleriot and Bomba set up now, and
  what are you thinking of putting on the Bomba to distinguish them?

 My Bleriot is a fairly standard Riv 9spd drive train Sugino XD's/105,
 moustache bars, rear rack and fatty rumpkin tires.
 The Bombadil is set up with basically a full modern xt mountain group,
 bullmoose bars, and v-brakes. I have the 2.0 quasi-moto pacenti tires
 on it.

 My thought would be to rebuild the Bombadil with something like a
 noodle bar, more roadish gearing, and a narrower smoother tire like a
 Marathon or Grand Bois. Maybe move the rack over to it. I think this
 would be a great setup although very similar to the Bleriot, so would
 it be better suited on a 700c platform? Probably splitting hairs. No
 doubt I love the raw paint, and double tube, but honestly if we're
 talking looks I could blindly pick any model they make. I love how all
 of them look.

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[RBW] Speaking of Atlantis

2010-02-12 Thread Marty
Another one, on CL, and a 61 this time. Again, not mine.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/1597015782.html

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Re: [RBW] Speaking of Atlantis

2010-02-12 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
 Another one, on CL, and a 61 this time. Again, not mine.

 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/1597015782.html


That one has been up there for a while. I emailed the guy and got back
a VERY VERY ODD response. I think if you're in the area and can see it
in person, maybe fine, but I wouldn't want to do that bike-unseen.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of Atlantis

2010-02-12 Thread Frankwurst
Hey, it performed swimmingly. That in itself has to be worth
something.

On Feb 12, 6:20 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
  Another one, on CL, and a 61 this time. Again, not mine.

 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/1597015782.html

 That one has been up there for a while. I emailed the guy and got back
 a VERY VERY ODD response. I think if you're in the area and can see it
 in person, maybe fine, but I wouldn't want to do that bike-unseen.

 -sv

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[RBW] Brooks has some new awesomeness

2010-02-12 Thread scott
I was reading the new issue of Adventure Cycling this morning and
there is a nice article about touring the Brooks factory. At the end
of the article is a small mention of two new bags geared toward
touring cyclists, so I looked em up.

WOW! a handlebar bag and set of touring panniers. Super classy waxed
canvas and leather. Super spendy, but whatever.

The handlebar bag has a map holder that is secured by six replacement
spokes for your wheels. How amazing is that! And a D-shaped tool bag
fits into a slot on the front. I likes it.

http://www.brookssaddles.com/en/News_Page.aspx?id=090916.231040.40from=
http://www.brookssaddles.com/en/News_Page.aspx?id=090929.065518.50

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[RBW] Re: Brooks has some new awesomeness

2010-02-12 Thread benzzoy
Very elegant and beautiful, but yikes!  Are those prices marked in yen
or euro? :)

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[RBW] Re: What are you reading (was reading chairs)?

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick in VT
in the last month . ..

the financial lives of the poets - Jess Walter (one of the best
young american writers going)

the believers - zoe heller.  fantastic.

nine stories - salinger, about my 20th re-read at this point.  a
perfect day for bananafish is one the best short stories ever written
in my opinion.

the humbling - philip roth.  not his most impressive work, but he's
such a good writer that it doesn't really matter.

interpreter of maladies - jhumpa lahiri, another re-reading because
it's so damn good.

essays by mark twain for when i need a laugh.

selections from a confederacy of dunces for when i need a really
good laugh.




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[RBW] Re: Brooks has some new awesomeness

2010-02-12 Thread Michael_S
those are euro's.. converts to $402 USD for the Handlebar bag

they are nice but  that's quite a bit more than anything on the
market

Mikey
SoCal

On Feb 12, 6:19 am, benzzoy benz...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Very elegant and beautiful, but yikes!  Are those prices marked in yen
 or euro? :)

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[RBW] Re: Brooks has some new awesomeness

2010-02-12 Thread Mark
Euro..basically 35-40 % more to = Dollars...295.00 euros=400.25
dollars...Its only getting worse for the buck.

Mark

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[RBW] Re: Hypothetical Bombadil trade and observations.

2010-02-12 Thread newenglandbike
I highly recommend the Schwalbe HS-159 'fatty' tire that Rivendell
sells.I have them on my bike, and I think it would be tough for me
to get excited about trying anything else.They are smooth on the
road, and I can ride them in the woods too.But I really love them
on the pot-holed roads around here.   They are about 45mm wide I
think.



On Feb 11, 10:22 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Feb 11, 7:25 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

  Personally, I like my bikes versatile, and I'd rather have two
  versatile bikes that are too similar then two different bikes that
  are limited in their versatility but occupy different niches. Make
  them different through different set-ups.

 I agree regarding the niche thing. That was all I had and it was weird
 to have 4 bikes, none of which would really do just a simple mixed
 terrain ride. Sure my full suspension would, but it was a dog on
 anything paved.

 In what way do you think a
  700c Romulus would serve you better than a Bomba for longer rides
  where I am carrying my panniers to go camping, but only on groomed
  mixed terrain, dirt roads etc.?
  Do you think it would be faster/more responsive? Do you just want it
  to feel more different?

 This is the $2000 question. As far as something like a Rom, Ram, or
 Hillborne serving better for packed camping use, I dont think they
 would or would not. I think they would all do equally great. The only
 advantage I see a 700c set up giving me over the Bombadil would be on
 paved century rides.

 How are your Bleriot and Bomba set up now, and
  what are you thinking of putting on the Bomba to distinguish them?

 My Bleriot is a fairly standard Riv 9spd drive train Sugino XD's/105,
 moustache bars, rear rack and fatty rumpkin tires.
 The Bombadil is set up with basically a full modern xt mountain group,
 bullmoose bars, and v-brakes. I have the 2.0 quasi-moto pacenti tires
 on it.

 My thought would be to rebuild the Bombadil with something like a
 noodle bar, more roadish gearing, and a narrower smoother tire like a
 Marathon or Grand Bois. Maybe move the rack over to it. I think this
 would be a great setup although very similar to the Bleriot, so would
 it be better suited on a 700c platform? Probably splitting hairs. No
 doubt I love the raw paint, and double tube, but honestly if we're
 talking looks I could blindly pick any model they make. I love how all
 of them look.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks has some new awesomeness

2010-02-12 Thread Jon Grant
Makes buying American look more and more econopatriotic. Yup, just made that
up. Feel free to use it.

--
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Illustration + Information Graphics
Austin, Texas
jgr...@papagrant.com
512-284-9599

Drawings ‹ all sorts



From: Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com
Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:07:24 -0500
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks has some new awesomeness

On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 06:27 -0800, Mark wrote:
 Euro..basically 35-40 % more to = Dollars...295.00 euros=400.25
 dollars...Its only getting worse for the buck.

Even in view of the current currency fluctuations re: the Euro?



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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks has some new awesomeness

2010-02-12 Thread BPustow
Careful, Grant may use it for the name of the next new bike (Waterford, USA 
 built, of course).
Bill
 
 
In a message dated 2/12/2010 11:10:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jgr...@papagrant.com writes:

Makes  buying American look more and more econopatriotic. Yup, just made 
that up.  Feel free to use  it.

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[RBW] Re: New bars for Bombadil

2010-02-12 Thread Kip Otteson
I think I've finally just admitted to myself that I like drops
better.  I have two stache bars in my garage testifying to this fact.
With the drops the Bomba is the most comfortable bike I've ever
ridden.  I finally have some pics here of the new bar set-up.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kimpanzee/sets/72157623295502989/

I like the brown tape and black frame.  To me it really matches the
Sackville bag and it just feels right.

Kip

On Feb 11, 3:23 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm hoping to do a Bomba build this year.  In the interest of making
 it different enough from my Hillborne to justify buying it, I was
 planning on using moustache bars.  I had an Orange XO-1 back in the
 day, and had both moustache and drop bars set up so I could do a quick
 switch.  I ended up using the drop bars 95% of the time.  Should I
 just admit to myself and the world that drop bars are just better and
 plan my Bomba build with drops?  Or should I maintain an open mind and
 give the 'stache another crack at it?

 On Feb 9, 6:46 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:



  Here are a few (lousy) pics. Maybe Kip can provide a proper after
  pic (it had gotten rather late, so pics were even less of a priority).

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/

  Cheers,

  Gernot

  On Feb 9, 10:18 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

   Yes, pictures please!

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[RBW] Re: Brooks has some new awesomeness

2010-02-12 Thread EricP
Panniers look nice.  But prices - wowser!  What's strange - I have
some nice Ortlieb, but did two of my three S24O last year with Arkel
Sackaroos.

For handlebar bags, really starting to appreciate the hobo model more
and more.  Can just cram it full of stuff and not worry.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Feb 12, 7:30 am, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was reading the new issue of Adventure Cycling this morning and
 there is a nice article about touring the Brooks factory. At the end
 of the article is a small mention of two new bags geared toward
 touring cyclists, so I looked em up.

 WOW! a handlebar bag and set of touring panniers. Super classy waxed
 canvas and leather. Super spendy, but whatever.

 The handlebar bag has a map holder that is secured by six replacement
 spokes for your wheels. How amazing is that! And a D-shaped tool bag
 fits into a slot on the front. I likes it.

 http://www.brookssaddles.com/en/News_Page.aspx?id=090916.231040.40from=http://www.brookssaddles.com/en/News_Page.aspx?id=090929.065518.50

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[RBW] Re: Reading Chairs

2010-02-12 Thread geezer

I'm reading The Waterworks by E.L. Doctorow in my Ekornes Stressless
chair.  We've had a pair of these chairs for years and years and they
are wonderful.

Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reading Chairs

2010-02-12 Thread James Dinneen
Thanks for getting the spelling right. I just bought one and I concur-very 
nice.   
Jim D. Massachusetts 

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Reading Chairs
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 12:16 PM



I'm reading The Waterworks by E.L. Doctorow in my Ekornes Stressless
chair.  We've had a pair of these chairs for years and years and they
are wonderful.

Mike

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[RBW] Re: Brooks has some new awesomeness

2010-02-12 Thread sjauch
And for that price you'd expect them to be made in the UK. Pretty sure
there from China.

On Feb 12, 12:15 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 Panniers look nice.  But prices - wowser!  What's strange - I have
 some nice Ortlieb, but did two of my three S24O last year with Arkel
 Sackaroos.

 For handlebar bags, really starting to appreciate the hobo model more
 and more.  Can just cram it full of stuff and not worry.

 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

 On Feb 12, 7:30 am, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote:



  I was reading the new issue of Adventure Cycling this morning and
  there is a nice article about touring the Brooks factory. At the end
  of the article is a small mention of two new bags geared toward
  touring cyclists, so I looked em up.

  WOW! a handlebar bag and set of touring panniers. Super classy waxed
  canvas and leather. Super spendy, but whatever.

  The handlebar bag has a map holder that is secured by six replacement
  spokes for your wheels. How amazing is that! And a D-shaped tool bag
  fits into a slot on the front. I likes it.

 http://www.brookssaddles.com/en/News_Page.aspx?id=090916.231040.40fr...- 
 Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Bianchi San Jose w/ SA S3X FOR SALE

2010-02-12 Thread Nick Marinelli
Hey guys - Just built this up with a little Quickbeam twist and thought I
would offer it up for sale here first before posting it elsewhere. The bike
is super nice  - rides and shifts great! I built it just to do it. I got a
good deal on the frame and the wheels - the other parts are from my stash
and are mostly new. The only used parts are the saddle, bar, cranks, and
matching BB. Everything is in near perfect condition. There are a few marks
on the left side of the bike where it was laying down in my pickup - nothing
through the paint. More information in written on the Flickr page linked
here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37017...@n02/sets/72157623243542956/

Thanks for looking and please do not hesitate to write with any questions!

Nick Marinelli

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[RBW] Re: New bars for Bombadil

2010-02-12 Thread jinxed
Dang, Kip. That does look great.

We will certainly have to plan the Clash Of the Titans this summer!

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[RBW] Hunqapillar paint scheme

2010-02-12 Thread Marty
It was mentioned in the pre-sale .pdf, and shown using a Bombadil
along with the proposed graphics. It sounded familiar, and looking at
RR42, pg. 58 reminded me why; it's a similar scheme used on Mark's
cross bike. Given the description, Mark's bike may be a closer match
to the future Hunq', and I for one am very happy. Coincidentally, the
original paint on my '83 Trek 850 is close, and the bike itself may be
considered a distant relative. (Father? Great Uncle? Genetic
Mutation?) Although the base color is black, the dark red head-tube
and seat-tube panel make for a really nice overall look. Grey/Red
sounds even better. If I can keep it in the stable long enough, I'll
take a family photo when my 62 Hunqapillar shows up.

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[RBW] Re: Bianchi San Jose w/ SA S3X FOR SALE

2010-02-12 Thread i.e.
Curious to here how the S3X rides.  I'm seriously thinking about
putting one on the Quickbeam, but I'm waiting to read some feedback
about the ratios and riding characteristics...

On Feb 12, 10:52 am, Nick Marinelli countrybicy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey guys - Just built this up with a little Quickbeam twist and thought I
 would offer it up for sale here first before posting it elsewhere. The bike
 is super nice  - rides and shifts great! I built it just to do it. I got a
 good deal on the frame and the wheels - the other parts are from my stash
 and are mostly new. The only used parts are the saddle, bar, cranks, and
 matching BB. Everything is in near perfect condition. There are a few marks
 on the left side of the bike where it was laying down in my pickup - nothing
 through the paint. More information in written on the Flickr page linked
 here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/37017...@n02/sets/72157623243542956/

 Thanks for looking and please do not hesitate to write with any questions!

 Nick Marinelli

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[RBW] 56cm Atlantis for sale

2010-02-12 Thread EricP
Some folks have mentioned they didn't realize I had my Atlantis for
sale.  So I'm re-posting.

Photos here -
http://tinyurl.com/yjc75kp

Here are the specs -


56cm frame original paint.
crankset - Sugino 26-36-46
pedals - MKS touring
cassette - 8 speed 11-32
rims - Velocity Cliffhangers (extra wide and burly) 36 holes
hubs - Shimano Deore front/rear
tires - Schwalbe Big Apple 26x50
(wheels built by Jim Thill at Hiawatha Cyclery)
brakes - Paul Touring front  rear
brake levers - Dia Compe SS-5, blue (same as what Rivendell used to
sell)
front derailer - Shimano Deore
rear derailer - Shimano Deore LX
shifters - Shimano Dura-Ace bar ends mounted on Paul Thumbies (the
bar
end pods will be included)
grips - Portugese cork.  Glued on with 3M spray adhesive
handlebars - Nitto Albatross
stem - Nitto 12cm
seatpost - Nitto 65 250mm long
saddle - Brooks B17 Champion Special - honey with copper coloured
rails.  Used
front rack - Nitto Campee (mounted to the mid fork braze-ons
fenders MKS 26 inch
front mudflap - Nigel Smythe
bottle cages (x2) King curvy shaped.

Asking price is $2,000 including packing and shipping by Jim at
Hiawatha Cyclery.  If interested, please make an offer.

Thanks.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

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RE: [RBW] Re: Bianchi San Jose w/ SA S3X FOR SALE

2010-02-12 Thread Frederick, Steve
I'm considering that drivetrain option for a commuter myself--any feedback much 
appreciated!

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Bianchi San Jose w/ SA S3X FOR SALE


Curious to here how the S3X rides.  I'm seriously thinking about
putting one on the Quickbeam, but I'm waiting to read some feedback
about the ratios and riding characteristics...

On Feb 12, 10:52 am, Nick Marinelli countrybicy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey guys - Just built this up with a little Quickbeam twist and thought I
 would offer it up for sale here first before posting it elsewhere. The bike
 is super nice  - rides and shifts great! I built it just to do it. I got a
 good deal on the frame and the wheels - the other parts are from my stash
 and are mostly new. The only used parts are the saddle, bar, cranks, and
 matching BB. Everything is in near perfect condition. There are a few marks
 on the left side of the bike where it was laying down in my pickup - nothing
 through the paint. More information in written on the Flickr page linked
 here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/37017...@n02/sets/72157623243542956/

 Thanks for looking and please do not hesitate to write with any questions!

 Nick Marinelli

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[RBW] Tioga Surefoot Maintenance ?'s

2010-02-12 Thread Michael Shaljian
Hello All,

I've had the Tioga Surefoot pedals on my quickbeam for about 1250
miles now, and I've noticed that they aren't spiining super - smooth
anymore. The drive side pedal is decent, as it spins relatively nicely
but could be better, but the non - drive pedal will only go around a
few times with a hard flick and makes a metal - on - metal grinding
noise.

I also noticed some play in the pedals on the axle, with again the non
- drive being worse than the drive - side. When I remove the dustcaps,
the non - drive has a great deal of lateral movement, whereas the
drive has hardly any. Is this normal, and if not, how can it be fixed?

Any tips or links to references on general pedal maintenance would be
appreciated, thanks.

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[RBW] Sam Hilbourne Tires

2010-02-12 Thread MichaelH
Since the Riv geometry chart is uncharacteristically vague on this
point, can anyone tell me the max tire width, with fenders, for this
frame?

Michael

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[RBW] Re: A little bit of Riv-ish art

2010-02-12 Thread Jeff
Wow, thanks for posting.  I need to start collecting this guy's work!
At his site, under other stuff there's a link to a calender that
looks like a good starter.  He reminds me a little of Dan Zettwoch.

On Feb 10, 12:27 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
 I should add a link to the artist who did our poster, because he has
 done a lot of bike-themed posters and other items that may be of
 interest.http://adamturman.com/

 On Feb 9, 10:33 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
 wrote:



  Thanks Seth. I appreciate it!

  I added a link to the blog post for pre-ordering a print. I think
  they'll be ready in a few weeks.

 http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2010/02/hiawatha-cyclery-poster.html

  On Feb 9, 10:17 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

   thill@gmail.com wrote:
I'll have to confirm this, but I think they'll be 18x24, and I'm
thinking $25. They'll be on nice, thick paper.

   If you have a poster tube to ship them in, put me down for one.

   Is there a way to pay on your website?

   -sv- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Sturmey Archer Price Reduced

2010-02-12 Thread Eric Norris
I've reconsidered the price for the Sturmey Archer 8-speed wheel.  It's now 
offered for $300 with shipping--less if you can pick it up in the 
Sacramento/San Francisco area.

--Eric
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www.campyonly.com
www.wheelsnorth.org



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[RBW] Re: Sam Hilbourne Tires

2010-02-12 Thread Michael_S
I have 700x40 Schwalbe Smart Sams on mine  with no fenders ( live in
SoCal) and there is plenty of room. I bet you could run a 700x 50
roadish tire with no issues (and no fenders).

I just realized I have Sams on my Sam!   talk about karma!  and my
initials backwards are Sam... whew!


Mikey



On Feb 12, 1:34 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:
 This chart shows it as 44 max, 38-40 w/ fenders.

 http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//2536/50-700f.jpg

 On Feb 12, 1:19 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:



  Since the Riv geometry chart is uncharacteristically vague on this
  point, can anyone tell me the max tire width, with fenders, for this
  frame?

  Michael- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Mondaine Watch...

2010-02-12 Thread All Rounder 2000
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/swiss-railroad-watch/31-515

I see that Riv is carrying a watch.
I like this a lot.
But, I would prefer a wind-up watch. Seriously.
Anyone else?

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[RBW] Re: Bianchi San Jose w/ SA S3X FOR SALE

2010-02-12 Thread Nick
It rides really well. The third gear is direct drive, second is a 25%
reduction and first gear is a 37.5% reduction. I have the low range
gears set at 39/18. High range is a 42/15. Low range works really well
for hilly terrain and offroad. High range is fantastic for flats.
There is a bit of lag b/t pushing the cranks forward and backpedal but
there has been more unnecessary hype about this than is warranted IMO.
Having put a few miles on this thing and other 'true' fixies, I kind
of like the lag b/c it sort of dampens the 'jolt' (for lack of a
better adjective) b/t forward and backpedal.

I am selling b/c I only built it as a fun project to eventually sell.
It was sort of a diversion from a camping bike I am building with a
Surly LHT and I really need the funds from this one to finish the
camper.

On Feb 12, 1:22 pm, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu
wrote:
 I'm considering that drivetrain option for a commuter myself--any feedback 
 much appreciated!

 Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

 -Original Message-
 From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

 [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of i.e.
 Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:17 PM
 To: RBW Owners Bunch
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Bianchi San Jose w/ SA S3X FOR SALE

 Curious to here how the S3X rides.  I'm seriously thinking about
 putting one on the Quickbeam, but I'm waiting to read some feedback
 about the ratios and riding characteristics...

 On Feb 12, 10:52 am, Nick Marinelli countrybicy...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey guys - Just built this up with a little Quickbeam twist and thought I
  would offer it up for sale here first before posting it elsewhere. The bike
  is super nice  - rides and shifts great! I built it just to do it. I got a
  good deal on the frame and the wheels - the other parts are from my stash
  and are mostly new. The only used parts are the saddle, bar, cranks, and
  matching BB. Everything is in near perfect condition. There are a few marks
  on the left side of the bike where it was laying down in my pickup - nothing
  through the paint. More information in written on the Flickr page linked
  here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/37017...@n02/sets/72157623243542956/

  Thanks for looking and please do not hesitate to write with any questions!

  Nick Marinelli

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[RBW] Re: Mondaine Watch...

2010-02-12 Thread Brad Gantt
I appreciate the mechanics and purity of a nice automatic (and love
the two I own) but there is something to be said for the reliability
and relative low cost of a quartz movement.

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[RBW] Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010

2010-02-12 Thread Bruce
Just an FYI for those here who are running 650B Rivvies..



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Subject: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010

 
Dear 650b fans, 
 
Good news; the revisions to the Pari-Moto mould are
complete, samples have been approved and the tires are headed to production. 

We were delayed by 4-5 weeks because of the rework needed to the mould, but
hopefully we’ll still get tires here by the end of March. 
 
Again, a big thanks to all those who supported this project
early on and made the Pari-Moto a reality! 

Cheers, 
 
KP


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[RBW] Re: Sam Hilbourne Tires

2010-02-12 Thread EricP
Am running Schwalbe Marathon Supremes 700x40 with fenders on my Sam.
Tires measure 39 actual on Salsa Delgado rims.

Been running those tires since I got the bike.  A beautiful match, in
my opinion.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Feb 12, 3:19�pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since the Riv geometry chart is uncharacteristically vague on this
 point, can anyone tell me the max tire width, with fenders, for this
 frame?

 Michael

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[RBW] Snow in the South....

2010-02-12 Thread Angus
I had just installed a Panaracer RIBMO 26x2.0 rear tire and those
really wide fenders from Rivendell on the All-Rounder.

Tyler got a few inches of snow last night...normally we get none...so
we have zero snow plows...and most people don't like to drive in the
snow.

So I decided to ride to work this morning.

Got sprayed with slush from two passing cars, found out that bike
lights work really well when everything is white, got the bike really
sideways...twice, noticed there were not may cars on the road, the
mudflap ended up acting like a snow plow much of the way, had a lot of
fun, ended up looking like this.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/4352155983/

The carpet next to my desk has a strange damp spot on it now.

It's nothing like what many other folks get...but it was the most snow
I'll get in a while.

Angus

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[RBW] Re: Variation on the Safety Swerve, the Saddlebag Jostle

2010-02-12 Thread doug peterson
Another addition to this is a safety triangle that's mounted so as to
allow it to flop around a bit.  You have to play with this to make it
work but the idea is moving things attract attention better than
stationary things.  I have a triangle (size L from Riv) mounted on my
saddlebag so the bottom is loose  it can flap around a bit.  Combine
that with a swerve or jostle to improve your visibility.  Got the idea
from someone who mounted her triangle on a trunk bag but just in the
center, so it sort of rocks back'n'forth.  You can't be too visible
out there.
Second on the mirror.  Tour buses have the engine in the back, don't
go very fast,  can sneak up on you.  If you check traffic behind you,
you've got time to plan before something surprises you.  If you're on
a narrow 2 lane road with 2 trucks approaching one another, guess
who's the odd one out?  My mirror has helped me avoid a lot of
potentially dangerous situations.

dougP

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 RR42 page 19, Grant writes of the Safety Swerve: a bit of a wiggle as
 cars are approaching from behind. I have a refinement of this. I
 monitor approaching car behavior in my helmet mirror. If they are
 beginning a shift to the left to give me space, no action needed. If
 they are holding their line that will pass very close to me, or if we
 are both approaching a dangerous portion of the road, say the topping
 of a hill or a narrowing portion of the road, I do my Saddlebag
 Jostle. I simply stand, but hold my body vertical and let the bike
 swing side to side. The wagging saddlebag nearly always earns me a bit
 of road space.

 After decades of not using a mirror because they were too dorky, my
 riding has been transformed by my mirror. Being able to monitor
 approaching traffic gives me some forecast of impending passes and has
 diminished the scary surprises coming up from behind.

 Also, back to the article on page 19, I would never spit towards a
 car. I understand what Grant meant, but if you miss-time your spit
 just a bit, it is a big insult and potentially a big confrontation.

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[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010

2010-02-12 Thread Esteban
Great news!  I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was
too thin.  This is gonna be an awesome tire.  It must be pretty darn
good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Feb 12, 5:17 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Just an FYI for those here who are running 650B Rivvies..



 - Forwarded Message 
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 Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 5:59:40 PM
 Subject: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010

 Dear 650b fans,

 Good news; the revisions to the Pari-Moto mould are
 complete, samples have been approved and the tires are headed to production.

 We were delayed by 4-5 weeks because of the rework needed to the mould, but
 hopefully we’ll still get tires here by the end of March.

 Again, a big thanks to all those who supported this project
 early on and made the Pari-Moto a reality!

 Cheers,

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010

2010-02-12 Thread rswat...@me.com
Did Grand Bois really drop the 38mm project? This is the first I've  
heard about it.
I'm starting a rumor right now: Grand Bois finally located the lost  
Mistuboshi Trimline mold and we'll have a supple, folding Trimline by  
summer!

Pass it on ;-)

Cheers,
Ryan




On Feb 12, 2010, at 20:55, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:


Great news!  I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was
too thin.  This is gonna be an awesome tire.  It must be pretty darn
good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Feb 12, 5:17 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:

Just an FYI for those here who are running 650B Rivvies..



- Forwarded Message 
From: Kirk Pacenti k...@bikelugs.com
To: 6...@bikelist.org
Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 5:59:40 PM
Subject: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010

Dear 650b fans,

Good news; the revisions to the Pari-Moto mould are
complete, samples have been approved and the tires are headed to  
production.


We were delayed by 4-5 weeks because of the rework needed to the  
mould, but

hopefully we’ll still get tires here by the end of March.

Again, a big thanks to all those who supported this project
early on and made the Pari-Moto a reality!

Cheers,

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[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010

2010-02-12 Thread rcnute
I think Jan mentioned (in essence) that the market wouldn't bear
another 38mm tire right now given other offerings.

Ryan

On Feb 12, 8:09 pm, rswat...@me.com rswat...@me.com wrote:
 Did Grand Bois really drop the 38mm project? This is the first I've  
 heard about it.
 I'm starting a rumor right now: Grand Bois finally located the lost  
 Mistuboshi Trimline mold and we'll have a supple, folding Trimline by  
 summer!
 Pass it on ;-)

 Cheers,
 Ryan

 On Feb 12, 2010, at 20:55, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:

  Great news!  I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was
  too thin.  This is gonna be an awesome tire.  It must be pretty darn
  good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project.

  Esteban
  San Diego, Calif.

  On Feb 12, 5:17 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Just an FYI for those here who are running 650B Rivvies..

  - Forwarded Message 
  From: Kirk Pacenti k...@bikelugs.com
  To: 6...@bikelist.org
  Sent: Fri, February 12, 2010 5:59:40 PM
  Subject: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010

  Dear 650b fans,

  Good news; the revisions to the Pari-Moto mould are
  complete, samples have been approved and the tires are headed to  
  production.

  We were delayed by 4-5 weeks because of the rework needed to the  
  mould, but
  hopefully we fll still get tires here by the end of March.

  Again, a big thanks to all those who supported this project
  early on and made the Pari-Moto a reality!

  Cheers,

  KP

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[RBW] Re: Snow in the South....

2010-02-12 Thread doug peterson
That's got a kinda artsy look to it.  Might look at a more vertical
alignment for the triangle, tho.

dougP

On Feb 12, 7:34 pm, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 I had just installed a Panaracer RIBMO 26x2.0 rear tire and those
 really wide fenders from Rivendell on the All-Rounder.

 Tyler got a few inches of snow last night...normally we get none...so
 we have zero snow plows...and most people don't like to drive in the
 snow.

 So I decided to ride to work this morning.

 Got sprayed with slush from two passing cars, found out that bike
 lights work really well when everything is white, got the bike really
 sideways...twice, noticed there were not may cars on the road, the
 mudflap ended up acting like a snow plow much of the way, had a lot of
 fun, ended up looking like this.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/4352155983/

 The carpet next to my desk has a strange damp spot on it now.

 It's nothing like what many other folks get...but it was the most snow
 I'll get in a while.

 Angus

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[RBW] Re: 56cm Atlantis for sale

2010-02-12 Thread doug peterson
Eric:

You didn't mention how old the bike is.  Serious buyers will want to
know.
Were I in the market for a 56 cm bike, this is a good candidate.  To
put the price in perspective, that's the last list price I've seen for
an Atlantis frame  fork only.  In 03, I paid more than that for my 58
cm Atlantis with generic wheels, no saddle, pedals, fenders, shifters,
rack, bottle cages, and with the standard issue Paselas.  This is a
good deal.
No relation to the seller; just want a nice bike to find a nice
home.

dougP

On Feb 12, 11:21 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 Some folks have mentioned they didn't realize I had my Atlantis for
 sale.  So I'm re-posting.

 Photos here -http://tinyurl.com/yjc75kp

 Here are the specs -

 56cm frame original paint.
 crankset - Sugino 26-36-46
 pedals - MKS touring
 cassette - 8 speed 11-32
 rims - Velocity Cliffhangers (extra wide and burly) 36 holes
 hubs - Shimano Deore front/rear
 tires - Schwalbe Big Apple 26x50
 (wheels built by Jim Thill at Hiawatha Cyclery)
 brakes - Paul Touring front  rear
 brake levers - Dia Compe SS-5, blue (same as what Rivendell used to
 sell)
 front derailer - Shimano Deore
 rear derailer - Shimano Deore LX
 shifters - Shimano Dura-Ace bar ends mounted on Paul Thumbies (the
 bar
 end pods will be included)
 grips - Portugese cork.  Glued on with 3M spray adhesive
 handlebars - Nitto Albatross
 stem - Nitto 12cm
 seatpost - Nitto 65 250mm long
 saddle - Brooks B17 Champion Special - honey with copper coloured
 rails.  Used
 front rack - Nitto Campee (mounted to the mid fork braze-ons
 fenders MKS 26 inch
 front mudflap - Nigel Smythe
 bottle cages (x2) King curvy shaped.

 Asking price is $2,000 including packing and shipping by Jim at
 Hiawatha Cyclery.  If interested, please make an offer.

 Thanks.

 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010

2010-02-12 Thread John Speare
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great news!  I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was
 too thin.  This is gonna be an awesome tire.  It must be pretty darn
 good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project.


I read this elsewhere: that the tread was too thin. It makes me
nervous that he'll pile too much rubber on this tire... and make it
more CdV'y -- I've been loving the supple and very thin Grand Bois
Cerfs, they're a dreamy ride, at a mere 28mm wide.

I have a pre-paid pair of the Pari Motos and I was really hoping they
would be a lighter, thinner version of the Hetres, which are my
favorite tires ever.

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[RBW] Re: Fw: [650B] Pari-Moto Update 2/12/2010

2010-02-12 Thread Bill M.
From the latest Riv Reader on the Paris-Moto:
The sample shown actually weighs 291g, but with a 1.5mm tread
thickness. Kirk says the production tires will be thicker-about
2mm-and the 308g listed here is a prediction.  Width shown is 38.15
mm.

From the VBQ test of the Hetre:
Width (on 25 mm Mavic Criterium rims): 42 mm
Weight: Sample 1: 392 g; Sample 2: 426 g
Thickness (casing + tread): 3.8 mm

Narrower and lighter than an Hetre?  I'd say the P-M should fit the
bill.  I have a pair of the tan walls on order.  I expect to restrict
the P-M's to paved roads, I'll keep the Fatty Rumpkins for mixed-
surface use.

Bill


On Feb 12, 8:50 pm, John Speare johnspe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:

  Great news!  I saw the early model at Riv a few weeks ago - tread was
  too thin.  This is gonna be an awesome tire.  It must be pretty darn
  good if Grand Bois dropped their 38mm Hetre project.

 I read this elsewhere: that the tread was too thin. It makes me
 nervous that he'll pile too much rubber on this tire... and make it
 more CdV'y -- I've been loving the supple and very thin Grand Bois
 Cerfs, they're a dreamy ride, at a mere 28mm wide.

 I have a pre-paid pair of the Pari Motos and I was really hoping they
 would be a lighter, thinner version of the Hetres, which are my
 favorite tires ever.

 --
 John Speare
 Spokane, WA USAhttp://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/

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