date:20100509

[RBW] Re: Saluki/Atlantis summer tour advice

2010-05-09 Thread Andrew


I did a similar ride 10 years ago from Seattle to San Francisco. The
hiker biker sites were great and super cheap. The freeways in Oregon
have huge shoulders and are great to ride on. Highway 1 in California
gets a little dicey, had a lot of potholes and can be washed out. It
makes up for it by being beautiful. I would use 35mm tires for the
rough road. Also make sure you have really good rain gear (pants and
jacket) and long fenders with flaps, we had a lot of rain in oregon in
the middle of summer. FYI we averaged between 13-18 mph fully loaded
on the trip, might be helpful for trying to figure out timing. It was
amazing though and I would happily do it again! You are gonna have a
lot of fun.

On May 8, 12:44 pm, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks to everyone for all the great tips!  Some of these will
 definitely make it on our list.

 On May 7, 1:18 pm, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote:





  Hey all,

  My friend and I are going to do a short camping/hostel tour from Portland
  Oregon to Santa Cruz CA this July.  He will be on his Atlantis, and me on my
  Saluki.

  We plan to ride the well traveled pacific coast route.  Does anyone have any
  tips about places to stop, current road conditions, or the like, that could
  be passed our way?

  Thanks-
  Jason

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[RBW] Riding to Kaʻaʻawa on Oahu

2010-05-09 Thread Robert F. Harrison

Today Iʻd planned on riding my Quickbeam out to Haleiwa (about 80 miles I
think) and taking the sag wagon home (all our buses have bike racks so you
can get back from most anywhere). As it turns out I dilly-dallied far too
long this morning and didnʻt leave the house till after 10am. As Iʻd planned
on leaving around 7am this meant a few revisions to the plan.

Instead of the extra 30 miles, I decided Iʻd ride as far as Kaʻaʻawa where
thereʻs a great BBQ place, Uncle Boboʻs, and take the bus back from there.
Kaʻaʻawa is the turnaround for both the Honolulu Century Ride in September
and the Haleiwa Metric Century ride I just did a couple of weeks ago.

I took a video camera with me and stopped every so often to document the
proceedings. Be warned, the sound is generally bad as it was windy and I
discovered I say the work okay altogether too much. :-) The image quality
isnʻt that great either though it seems that as the video is still being
processed it may improve later. If not Iʻll upload a different version to my
blog (www.statrix.com).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuQRowZiNsI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuQRowZiNsI



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuQRowZiNsIHaleiwa will have to wait for
another day when I can actually get moving in the morning. :-)

Aloha!

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[RBW] Re: Opinion on Potential Sale of 1985 Trek 720

2010-05-09 Thread Bob

Will do.  I took it for a nice ride yesterday, and it is so
unbelievably cush--a real flexy-flyer.

I worked in a bike shop when I was in college, and we were moving this
model at a pretty brisk pace, even at a pretty stiff price, new. This
was the one that the guy who was riding across the country (or Europe)
would buy.

Cheers,
Bob



On May 3, 7:15 pm, j4gitr jstoes...@comcast.net wrote:
 I sold my 25 720 this past November. It was in very good condition. I
 opted for a 68cm Waterford Adventure Cycle. It took me several months
 and some extra effort to close the deal on the 720 I received about
 $750. It did not have Phil Hubs and Riv  Tubus racks. It was for the
 most part original except for Nitto stem. I think you will work to get
 $1000 for it, so I would keep it and enjoy it. I liked my 720. It was
 just too small for me. I am loving the Waterford and happy that things
 worked out well for me. If you enjoy your 720 then keep it and cherish
 for its comfort and heritage.

 On May 2, 4:38 pm, Bob linthi...@gmail.com wrote:





  I realize this post is not Rivendell-related--I hope it's OK.  My
  sense is that the group members here might know a few things about
  other fine bicycles, and I would appreciate an opinion.

  I have a 1985 Trek 720. I have upgraded it over the years:  It has
  700c Lesnik-built wheels with Phil Wood hubs, Nitto bar and stem,
  Sugino cranks, original derailleurs, Brooks B17, Tubus rear and
  Rivendell front racks, the works.  It's a nice bike, pristine in every
  way.

  The challenge:  We are moving overseas for several years, and I have
  10 bicycles  need to lighten up. The 720 is by far the nicest bike I
  have, which makes it the least useful to me, in that I won't park this
  for the day at the Metro, leave it outside of the grocery store (for
  very long), ride it in the rain, etc.  My other old Trek is more
  seasoned, less valuable, and gets a heck of a lot more use.

  What do you think this bike is worth, ballpark?  I know this is
  probably dreaming, but I think it would take at least $2500 for me to
  part with her. It seems somehow unfair for this bike to hang in my
  basement for much longer.

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Mini FrontWald Med BasketShopsack = Perfection

2010-05-09 Thread Bob

Front loads make a lot of sense, and provide a better overall weight
distribution.  Back in the day the wisdom was that a front load needed
to be carried as low as possible for stability, but I put some heavy
stuff in front baskets routinely, and have never had a problem with
wobble or any of the promised horrors of a high front load.

On May 8, 1:53 am, SFF jgre...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I'm running a new Sam Hillborne with a Nitto mini front rack, Wald med
 basket and med Shopsack. Having never used a front rack before, I
 wasn't sure if I would like it - handling? weight distribution? geez,
 you can't see the front tire...etc.

 But, after a month of daily commuting I have to say - it does much
 more than I expected! I can fit a change of clothes, lunch, mini U-
 lock and a book up there no problem - thats all I need for the
 commute. On the way home I can stop by the grocery store, record shop
 or beverage barn and squeeze it in - no problem.

 Tip: I put a little bar tape on the basket where I attach the shopsack
 latch. Sometimes on a rough surface you get some clanky noise from the
 loose metal to metal attachment point. I also put a foam pad on the
 bottom of the basket to eliminate road noise if I'm running a lite
 load.

 Maybe someday I'll use that big 'ol Nitto rack on the back of the
 bike. Where are those new panniers anyway? Just asking...

 Joel

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[RBW] Re: slowing down

2010-05-09 Thread MichaelH

Sorry to hear this news.  And to make matters worse it seems like the
worst possible time of year for a break.  You'll also be running
around taking care of her and other extra duties.  When I came home
after foot surgery  last year my wife said I could have three wishes.
I said, thanks, can I have a cup of coffee?  She said, That's one!

The only suggestion I can offer the two of you is to shop carefully
for a good physical therapist.  I've experienced some mediocre ones
and some really good ones and it makes a big difference.  Also, when
she's well enough, come to VT anyway and treat yourself to a weekend
at a nice BB.  Give her our best wishes for healing.

Michael

On May 8, 8:52 pm, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote:
 As some of you know, my wife and I have been planning a cyclotouring
 trip from New York City to Montreal with camping in the Adirondacks
 and Vermont along the way.  I've received a lot of very helpful
 information on this list and want to thank everyone who has given me
 suggestions.  We were slated to start on May 23rd.
 Unfortunately my wife broke her tibia and knee on Sunday in an
 accident involving a car.  She wasn't driving or riding a her bike.
 She wont walk for three months and certainly wont be cycling.  She had
 surgery last night involving pins, screws and plates and is in a lot
 of pain.   We are trying to stay positive and know she will have a
 full recovery with her gaining 95% of movement in her knee back.  But
 still, it's a bummer.   I don't really do the support group thing so I
 thought I would share that here.

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[RBW] Re: slowing down

2010-05-09 Thread Will

Jason: Sorry to hear it. I had been looking forward to a ride report
and photos, especially to hear how you liked doing such a tour on your
37mm-Pasela-equipped Hillborne.

Don't know the circumstances of her accident, but I recently learned
that in 2005, there were 120 pedestrians and 21 bicyclists killed by
cars in NYC's 5 boroughs (source: www.crashstat.org; the combined
total ranges from 110 to 160 every year). I'm not blaming cars for all
of these, but nonetheless it's the equivalent of one Boeing 737 crash
every year. And that's just in NYC.  --Will

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[RBW] Re: headset stack height?

2010-05-09 Thread Bill M.

Not to threadjack, but that's a bike that's big enough to justify the
diagonal tube.  Interesting that Grant added mid-stays on this one,
but not on the current designs.

Bill

On May 8, 5:12 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I was looking at this picture of a large custom Rivendell with a tall
 headset:

 http://tinyurl.com/23rzeqm

 Does the steerer go all the way up into the spacers?  Can you add as
 many spacers as you want as long as you have enough steerer length?

 Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Riding to Kaʻaʻawa on Oahu

2010-05-09 Thread cyclotourist

Good stuff on the islands!

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.comwrote:

Today Iʻd planned on riding my Quickbeam out to Haleiwa (about 80 miles I
think) and taking the sag wagon home (all our buses have bike racks so you
can get back from most anywhere). As it turns out I dilly-dallied far too
long this morning and didnʻt leave the house till after 10am. As Iʻd planned
on leaving around 7am this meant a few revisions to the plan.

Instead of the extra 30 miles, I decided Iʻd ride as far as Kaʻaʻawa where
thereʻs a great BBQ place, Uncle Boboʻs, and take the bus back from there.
Kaʻaʻawa is the turnaround for both the Honolulu Century Ride in September
and the Haleiwa Metric Century ride I just did a couple of weeks ago.

I took a video camera with me and stopped every so often to document the
proceedings. Be warned, the sound is generally bad as it was windy and I
discovered I say the work okay altogether too much. :-) The image quality
isnʻt that great either though it seems that as the video is still being
processed it may improve later. If not Iʻll upload a different version to my
blog (www.statrix.com).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuQRowZiNsI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuQRowZiNsI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuQRowZiNsIHaleiwa will have to wait for
another day when I can actually get moving in the morning. :-)

Aloha!

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statrix.statrix.com

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Re: [RBW] Riding to Kaʻaʻawa on Oahu

2010-05-09 Thread Eric Norris

Nice video! Brings back memories of the time in 1993 that I rode the Oahu 
Perimeter Ride. I had never been to Hawaii before, but I saw the entire island 
in one day.  I'll never forget the advice we got from a local who, when asked 
how we could get back to the course (we were slightly lost) said,

Just keep the ocean on the righthand side, man. Can't get lost!

--Eric

Sent from my iPad

On May 9, 2010, at 1:34 AM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Today Iʻd planned on riding my Quickbeam out to Haleiwa (about 80 miles I 
 think) and taking the sag wagon home (all our buses have bike racks so you 
 can get back from most anywhere). As it turns out I dilly-dallied far too 
 long this morning and didnʻt leave the house till after 10am. As Iʻd planned 
 on leaving around 7am this meant a few revisions to the plan. 
 
 Instead of the extra 30 miles, I decided Iʻd ride as far as Kaʻaʻawa where 
 thereʻs a great BBQ place, Uncle Boboʻs, and take the bus back from there. 
 Kaʻaʻawa is the turnaround for both the Honolulu Century Ride in September 
 and the Haleiwa Metric Century ride I just did a couple of weeks ago.
 
 I took a video camera with me and stopped every so often to document the 
 proceedings. Be warned, the sound is generally bad as it was windy and I 
 discovered I say the work okay altogether too much. :-) The image quality 
 isnʻt that great either though it seems that as the video is still being 
 processed it may improve later. If not Iʻll upload a different version to my 
 blog (www.statrix.com).
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuQRowZiNsI 
 
 
 
 Haleiwa will have to wait for another day when I can actually get moving in 
 the morning. :-)
 
 Aloha!
 
 -- 
 Robert Harrison
 rfharri...@gmail.com
 statrix.statrix.com
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar

2010-05-09 Thread James Warren

To my untrained eye, this looks better than horizontal.Thanks Pete!-Jim W.-Original Message-
From: P Merryman 
Sent: May 8, 2010 6:57 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Diagonapillar

Sorry I'm a month late posting, I'm "catching up" on a few months of non-lurking. Anyway, wanted to point out that, if I'm reading this right, Riv has done it before. From the web-archive.org of the Riv site:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030804115752/www.rivendellbicycles.com/gallery/bigbike/bigbike.html
-PeteOn Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:22 PM, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote:
I wonder if there is a drawing, mock up, or other bike out there with
this config? It sounds kinda weird to me, but seeing it might change
everything.

cheers!
cm

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[RBW] Re: headset stack height?

2010-05-09 Thread MichaelH

Isn't that a pretty bike!  The diagonal tube not only strengths this
big guy, but makes it look more proportional.  The stack height
transitions nicely between the head tube and the stem.  The
alternative would be either a much longer and heavier head tube or a
very high stem.

Unfortunately, for the OP, if you want higher bars, your choices are
usually, either a new fork (expensive) or a new stem.  Riv sells a
couple of options that can help raise the bars

Michael.

On May 8, 8:12 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I was looking at this picture of a large custom Rivendell with a tall
 headset:

 http://tinyurl.com/23rzeqm

 Does the steerer go all the way up into the spacers?  Can you add as
 many spacers as you want as long as you have enough steerer length?

 Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Saluki/Atlantis summer tour advice

2010-05-09 Thread Gino Zahnd

Jason -

Current road conditions would be useless right now given that it's
May, and you're going in July.  :-)

Use Krebs maps, and AC maps. They're both good for different reasons.
Krebs are the best, though. The Pacific Coast book is ok.

Here are pics of my tour on that route, on my Saluki:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/collections/72157606892342672/

North of Arcata, use the Hammond Trail. Ask if you can't find it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/2735946381/in/set-72157606560978936/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/2735929537/in/set-72157606560978936/

Regarding Anne's advice, the Lost Coast detour is amazingly beautiful,
and it's also some of the hardest/hilliest riding you'll ever do. It
is epic. It adds an entire day to the route; it's that hilly. And with
loaded bikes, it goes by beautifully, painfully, and slowly.

When you're near Benbow, camp there. In July it'll be hot, and the Eel
River will provide heaven at the end of that day.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/2744653044/in/set-72157606613356425/

Eat as many berries as you can. They're amazing, and everywhere! There
are tons of breweries along the route. For what that's worth. Our tour
was actually a tour of the coastal breweries...

Good luck, and have fun on that tour. It's some of the prettiest
riding anywhere on the planet!

Franklyn - don't ride south to north. You'll be miserable from the
howling wind, and you'll be on the wrong side of the road for the good
views. :-)


-gino



On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:18 PM, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,

 My friend and I are going to do a short camping/hostel tour from Portland
 Oregon to Santa Cruz CA this July.  He will be on his Atlantis, and me on my
 Saluki.

 We plan to ride the well traveled pacific coast route.  Does anyone have any
 tips about places to stop, current road conditions, or the like, that could
 be passed our way?

 Thanks-
 Jason

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[RBW] WTB 58cm QuickBeam..

2010-05-09 Thread andrew hill

just sticking my i want a quickbeam post back in.. 

looking for a 58cm QB, and for some reason i'm not too enthralled (emthralled?) 
by the green color, so would prefer some other color (silver? or red!) ..  i'd 
also be really into any frameset about the same size that i could make a single 
speed, or if someone has built a Rivendell into a single/fixie and wants to 
sell it, i'd be down for that :)

cheers,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Big Apples off-road

2010-05-09 Thread Rene Sterental

Got my Big Apples LIte Skin 2.3 tires but found out that the rear one
doesn't fit with my rear Berthoud fender.I've seen pictures that show these
tires with fenders on other Bombadils (I think), so am wondering if there is
any particular trick. Perhaps the combination with the Nitto Big Rear Rack
doesn't allow it...

Didn't have time to figure it out but ended up removing the fenders for now.
Of course, there is now a bit of rain scheduled for tomorrow...

Was all ready to go to my pilot S24O and then realized that the rear tire
rubs the twine in my single kickstand, probably because I wrapped it with
too much overalp. Didn't want to risk any damage to the tire so ended up
putting back the full knobbies as I was already late...

Will try them during the week after I do something about the kickstand.

René

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders

2010-05-09 Thread Rene Sterental

Got the Big Front Rack and tried to mount it on the Bombadil yesterday
morning before heading out on my pilot S24O. To my dismay I was unable to
mount it; the front brakes (Paul Neo-Retros) did not allow the rack to align
with the upper braze-ons. I couldn't figure out a way around it in the
limited time I had, so I had to put the small front rack back on and will
call Marc or Keven tomorrow... :-(

Will post an update once I figure out if there is a solution. Otherwise I'll
have to return it and go with traditional low-riders.

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[RBW] Re: Saluki/Atlantis summer tour advice

2010-05-09 Thread Me

Gino-

Thanks for this detailed response. Chloe and me are considering this
exact tour, actually we are reconsidering our initial plan for PDX
'front door' to Cannon Beach... and looking at 'adding' a lil' more
mileage to it by going PDX Front Door to Cannon Beach -- to San Fran
and Rivendell HQ for our long-planned/often canceled visit.

Ordered the AC Pacific Coast maps 3 days back, now ordering the Krebs
maps as well.

Slide Shows were great for wetting our jones!

Thanks again-

-Scott

On May 9, 11:32 am, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:
Jason -

Current road conditions would be useless right now given that it's
May, and you're going in July. :-)

Use Krebs maps, and AC maps. They're both good for different reasons.
Krebs are the best, though. The Pacific Coast book is ok.

Here are pics of my tour on that route, on my
Saluki:http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/collections/72157606892342672/

North of Arcata, use the Hammond Trail. Ask if you can't find
it:http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/2735946381/in/set-72157606560978936/http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/2735929537/in/set-72157606560978936/

Regarding Anne's advice, the Lost Coast detour is amazingly beautiful,
and it's also some of the hardest/hilliest riding you'll ever do. It
is epic. It adds an entire day to the route; it's that hilly. And with
loaded bikes, it goes by beautifully, painfully, and slowly.

When you're near Benbow, camp there. In July it'll be hot, and the Eel
River will provide heaven at the end of that
day.http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/2744653044/in/set-72157606613356425/

Eat as many berries as you can. They're amazing, and everywhere! There
are tons of breweries along the route. For what that's worth. Our tour
was actually a tour of the coastal breweries...

Good luck, and have fun on that tour. It's some of the prettiest
riding anywhere on the planet!

Franklyn - don't ride south to north. You'll be miserable from the
howling wind, and you'll be on the wrong side of the road for the good
views. :-)

-gino

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Hey all,

My friend and I are going to do a short camping/hostel tour from Portland
Oregon to Santa Cruz CA this July. He will be on his Atlantis, and me on my
Saluki.

We plan to ride the well traveled pacific coast route. Does anyone have any
tips about places to stop, current road conditions, or the like, that could
be passed our way?

Thanks-
Jason

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Re: [RBW] Saluki/Atlantis summer tour advice

2010-05-09 Thread Anne Paulson

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:


 Regarding Anne's advice, the Lost Coast detour is amazingly beautiful,
 and it's also some of the hardest/hilliest riding you'll ever do. It
 is epic. It adds an entire day to the route; it's that hilly. And with
 loaded bikes, it goes by beautifully, painfully, and slowly.

It's so worth it, and SO STEEP. When you start the first climb out of
Ferndale, you think, wow, this is steep. But then when you reach the
top, and look far far down to the base of the second long climb, you
can't believe someone put a road there. It looks like it goes straight
up. It looks like someone glued asphalt on a cliff. Highway 1 was
routed inland in that section for good reason.

Then, all too quickly because the descent is scarily steep too, so
steep you can't see the road beneath you and it looks like you're
about to ride off a cliff into the Pacific 2000 feet below, you reach
the base of that climb. You hope your initial impressions were wrong.

Oh no. They weren't. The road looks like a cliff because it is a
cliff. Take a deep breath. Get in your lowest gear. Wish you had a
gear twice as low. Begin climbing. Hope you don't tip over.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Big Apples off-road

2010-05-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE

Oh, oh, oh, I want some! 200 gr lighter and (to quote the mfr) no reduction
in puncture resistance!

They are too big for your bike. Sell them to me. Seriously, I'll takem
offyur hands.

I love my regular BAs on my 45 mm rims, but man!, they reqruire patience,
determination and a hole heck of a lot of energy to get up hills!

Here is what wreck bicycles teck had to say (full conversation at
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/c6f5196bd03c8e60?pli=1
):

SCHWALBE'S BIG APPLE LIGHTSKINS
some further observations by Andre Jute

It may be that I've adapted to the bike I ride now, or it may be that
I found the right inflation for the Big Apples, but they're even
better as a suspension medium than I thought at first.

At the back of the bike judgement is of course complicated by fitting
a fully sprung Brooks saddle, but at the front I now perceive the Big
Apples to be very nearly as good on the big bumps as the best front
suspension I own, Shimano's Di2 electronically controlled fork, and
better on removing the microripples.

The Big Apples also have stickitivity around fast tight corners,
appearing to stick to all their edges, though it is quite difficult to
find that out as the tyre sticks to the main surface for a long time
before it rolls over a little. With the Big Apples carrying pretty low
inflation (1.8 bar, under the recommended level for my weight), there
is a certain amount of apparent float, something like a Citroen DS at
high speed over cobblestones, but it's all in the head as the contact
patch remains stiffly attached to the road.

I think there's a lot more cornering power to discover in those Big
Apples, but without having my fastest downhills cleared of oncoming
traffic I shall probably never have an opportunity to find the excess.
It seems to me very likely that the Big Apple's cornering power
exceeds good sense, bravery, and possibly even recklessness.
In short, the Big Apples can be inflated below the recommended level,
and they provide a stable platform, supply suspended. Mine are the
Liteskin version. Since I have no experience of the standard Big
Apple, I can't say if the Liteskins are worth the extra, but the Big
Apple is surely worth the money.

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:

Got my Big Apples LIte Skin 2.3 tires but found out that the rear one
doesn't fit with my rear Berthoud fender.I've seen pictures that show these
tires with fenders on other Bombadils (I think), so am wondering if there is
any particular trick. Perhaps the combination with the Nitto Big Rear Rack
doesn't allow it...

Didn't have time to figure it out but ended up removing the fenders for
now. Of course, there is now a bit of rain scheduled for tomorrow...

Was all ready to go to my pilot S24O and then realized that the rear tire
rubs the twine in my single kickstand, probably because I wrapped it with
too much overalp. Didn't want to risk any damage to the tire so ended up
putting back the full knobbies as I was already late...

Will try them during the week after I do something about the kickstand.

René

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Re: [RBW] Re: Big Apples off-road

2010-05-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE

I'm going to go out and ride my Monocog 29er in just a minute, but first
another word: note what the man says about the BA LS's being *as good* as a
top o' line susp fork for big hits and **better** for small hits. And this
is at a rock hard 1.8 bar/26 psi!! And for such wide and flat resistant
tires (did I mention that I flicked, literally, a hundred or so goatheads
off my tires on Friday, with no penetration?) even the heavy walled, wire
bead model rolls well. But man, a supple, light 65 mm tire (65 mm on those
SnoCat SLs)?? I must try some. Will call LBSes on Monday.

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:45 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

Oh, oh, oh, I want some! 200 gr lighter and (to quote the mfr) no reduction
in puncture resistance!

They are too big for your bike. Sell them to me. Seriously, I'll takem
offyur hands.

I love my regular BAs on my 45 mm rims, but man!, they reqruire patience,
determination and a hole heck of a lot of energy to get up hills!

Here is what wreck bicycles teck had to say (full conversation at
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/c6f5196bd03c8e60?pli=1
):

SCHWALBE'S BIG APPLE LIGHTSKINS
some further observations by Andre Jute

It may be that I've adapted to the bike I ride now, or it may be that
I found the right inflation for the Big Apples, but they're even
better as a suspension medium than I thought at first.

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.comwrote:

Didn't have time to figure it out but ended up removing the fenders for
now. Of course, there is now a bit of rain scheduled for tomorrow...

Will try them during the week after I do something about the kickstand.

René

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Re: [RBW] Re: Big Apples off-road

2010-05-09 Thread Rene Sterental

Patrick,

I got mine from Wallingford coupled with the recommended by Schwalbe, 19A
tubes. I'll report when I get a chance to ride them. It's Sunday afternoon
and I'm at work... at least I got to do my pilot S240 yesterday with my son
and a friend.

Will send a short report soon :-)

René

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Re: [RBW] Re: Big Apples off-road

2010-05-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE

Please do report. And are the 19A tubes a particular size or are they light?
I just weighed one of my Contis or whatevers and it is a full 8 oz.

I know what goes on my next month's purchase budget.

And, I am serious about taking them off your hands if you decide they are
too big.

Patrick Moore, who just got back from a short 12 mile, but hilly and
energetic ride on his 900+ gram wire bead, heavy sidewall Big Apples.

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:

Patrick,

I got mine from Wallingford coupled with the recommended by Schwalbe, 19A
tubes. I'll report when I get a chance to ride them. It's Sunday afternoon
and I'm at work... at least I got to do my pilot S240 yesterday with my son
and a friend.

Will send a short report soon :-)

René

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[RBW] MB Sizing Question

2010-05-09 Thread Johnny Alien

I saw an old thread with this exact topic but can't bump an old thread
so I will start a new one.

I am trying to see if a bike that isn't local might work for me size
wise.

It is a Bridgestone MB and I am unfamiliar with mountain bike frame
sizing. I know that it is supposed to be smaller than a road bike
frame but I am not sure by how much.

I am 5'9 and my PBH is around 82.  By Rivendell's sizing chart that
should put me in a 56-57 700C bike a 55-56 650B bike and a 54/55 26
bike.  That seems about right as I ride 55 for a road bike (although I
like a 53 on my Bleriot).  The MB I am looking at is the 49 frame.
While that goes along with the Rivendell chart I am still thinking
that it might be too tall.

What say you fine folk?

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Re: [RBW] MB Sizing Question

2010-05-09 Thread cyclotourist

49 should be just right. I'm 6 and the 49 MB2 I had was too small for me.
They do have long top tubes, so check that measurement and make sure it'll
work for you.

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.netwrote:

I saw an old thread with this exact topic but can't bump an old thread
so I will start a new one.

I am trying to see if a bike that isn't local might work for me size
wise.

It is a Bridgestone MB and I am unfamiliar with mountain bike frame
sizing. I know that it is supposed to be smaller than a road bike
frame but I am not sure by how much.

I am 5'9 and my PBH is around 82. By Rivendell's sizing chart that
should put me in a 56-57 700C bike a 55-56 650B bike and a 54/55 26
bike. That seems about right as I ride 55 for a road bike (although I
like a 53 on my Bleriot). The MB I am looking at is the 49 frame.
While that goes along with the Rivendell chart I am still thinking
that it might be too tall.

What say you fine folk?

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Redlands, CA

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[RBW] Re: MB Sizing Question

2010-05-09 Thread Johnny Alien

I am not sure how long of a top tube I would need.  It looks like a
very different measurement than the road bike/country bikes I have.

I am thinking that 49 might be good...perhaps a tiny bit on the high
end but maybe exactly right.  The next size down seems like it would
be too small.

On May 9, 8:17 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 49 should be just right.  I'm 6 and the 49 MB2 I had was too small for me.
 They do have long top tubes, so check that measurement and make sure it'll
 work for you.

 On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.netwrote:





  I saw an old thread with this exact topic but can't bump an old thread
  so I will start a new one.

  I am trying to see if a bike that isn't local might work for me size
  wise.

  It is a Bridgestone MB and I am unfamiliar with mountain bike frame
  sizing. I know that it is supposed to be smaller than a road bike
  frame but I am not sure by how much.

  I am 5'9 and my PBH is around 82.  By Rivendell's sizing chart that
  should put me in a 56-57 700C bike a 55-56 650B bike and a 54/55 26
  bike.  That seems about right as I ride 55 for a road bike (although I
  like a 53 on my Bleriot).  The MB I am looking at is the 49 frame.
  While that goes along with the Rivendell chart I am still thinking
  that it might be too tall.

  What say you fine folk?

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[RBW] Re: MB Sizing Question

2010-05-09 Thread newenglandbike

I think the 49 cm would work fine.The old Bridgestone catalog's
recommend about 1-2 of difference between PBH and standover height
for road bikes, but 3-4 for mountain bikes-   so an extra 2 of
clearance (which it looks like you would have).


On May 9, 8:08 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:
 I saw an old thread with this exact topic but can't bump an old thread
 so I will start a new one.

 I am trying to see if a bike that isn't local might work for me size
 wise.

 It is a Bridgestone MB and I am unfamiliar with mountain bike frame
 sizing. I know that it is supposed to be smaller than a road bike
 frame but I am not sure by how much.

 I am 5'9 and my PBH is around 82.  By Rivendell's sizing chart that
 should put me in a 56-57 700C bike a 55-56 650B bike and a 54/55 26
 bike.  That seems about right as I ride 55 for a road bike (although I
 like a 53 on my Bleriot).  The MB I am looking at is the 49 frame.
 While that goes along with the Rivendell chart I am still thinking
 that it might be too tall.

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[RBW] Re: MB Sizing Question

2010-05-09 Thread Johnny Alien

Also I had a 1994 XO-3 (which was the top of the line XO that year) in
a 52 frame.  That also had 26 wheels and similar to a mountain bike
style.  The standover looks to be the same as the 49 MB (although I
have no idea how that is possible).  Seems like it might be a little
big for a mountain bike frame BUT I am sure I could fit it.  I am just
not sure if that TT measurement would make it feel bigger to me.

On May 9, 8:34 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think the 49 cm would work fine.    The old Bridgestone catalog's
 recommend about 1-2 of difference between PBH and standover height
 for road bikes, but 3-4 for mountain bikes-   so an extra 2 of
 clearance (which it looks like you would have).

 On May 9, 8:08 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:





  I saw an old thread with this exact topic but can't bump an old thread
  so I will start a new one.

  I am trying to see if a bike that isn't local might work for me size
  wise.

  It is a Bridgestone MB and I am unfamiliar with mountain bike frame
  sizing. I know that it is supposed to be smaller than a road bike
  frame but I am not sure by how much.

  I am 5'9 and my PBH is around 82.  By Rivendell's sizing chart that
  should put me in a 56-57 700C bike a 55-56 650B bike and a 54/55 26
  bike.  That seems about right as I ride 55 for a road bike (although I
  like a 53 on my Bleriot).  The MB I am looking at is the 49 frame.
  While that goes along with the Rivendell chart I am still thinking
  that it might be too tall.

  What say you fine folk?

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Re: [RBW] Re: MB Sizing Question

2010-05-09 Thread cyclotourist

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.netwrote:

 I am not sure how long of a top tube I would need.  It looks like a
 very different measurement than the road bike/country bikes I have.

 I am thinking that 49 might be good...perhaps a tiny bit on the high
 end but maybe exactly right.  The next size down seems like it would
 be too small.


Yes, that's what I would say, too. :-)

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[RBW] Re: WTB 58cm QuickBeam..

2010-05-09 Thread Liesl

I don't have a quickbeam for sale, but thought you might be interested
in how I made my own QB out of a protobleriot frame (51cm sandblasted
clear-coat).  I had rich build rear wheel with a white eno hub.  Works
like a charm.  Light, mindless, comfortable commuter.  You could do
the same with any riv frame your size.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Big Apples off-road

2010-05-09 Thread Rene Sterental

Patrick,

According to Schwalbe, the 19 or 19A tubes are the right size for the Big
Apples (29x2.35). The 19A is a lighter version, and it was the only one
Wallingford had so I got those. So far, I love the Schwalbe tubes; they hold
air very long and seem to be excellent. Haven't had any problems with them.

You can rest assured that if I don't like these tires, you'll be the first
to know... however, I'd caution you not to get your hopes too high... :-D

René

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 4:13 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 And are the 19A tubes a particular size or are they light?

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[RBW] WTB - Tan Canvas Lil Loafer

2010-05-09 Thread Pondero

Anyone willing to part with a tan canvas lil loafer?  Worn is fine as
long as it is reasonably clean and fully functional.

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[RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions

2010-05-09 Thread TJ Ramb

leopold chaffcutter





On May 9, 4:36 am, CCX chive...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd vote for hayduke

 On May 6, 2:51 pm, Errin Vasquez errin.vasq...@gmail.com wrote:



  What about George Washington Hayduke?

  On May 6, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote:

   Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius!

   I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though.

   Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike?

   LaToya Jackson, for a women's bike.

   There's only so much time, only so many lugs.

   --  
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  www.rivbike.com
   925 933 7304

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[RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions

2010-05-09 Thread Jeremy Till

For an S24O-specific bike:

The Rev. James T. Oughtenbach  (get it?  out n' back?)

I get rights!  or at least a frameset for cheap

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 Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius!

 I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though.

 Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike?

 LaToya Jackson, for a women's bike.

 There's only so much time, only so many lugs.

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[RBW] Re: What a Difference A Little Albatross Makes

2010-05-09 Thread RoadieRyan

Very Sharp Marty

I have a 1960s era Raleigh Sports 3 speed in the queue of bike
projects, it was $20 I couldn't pass it up!

Same brown color so your sprite is very inspiring

On May 7, 5:49 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:
 Yet another Albatross makeover. I just finished a phase 1 re-hab of a
 nice old Raleigh Sprite. This one fits me really well, and I like the
 overall look so far. I have some new brakes on order from Riv to
 upgrade the original steel calipers, and will add a single ring Sugino
 crankset once I work out the classic Raleigh 26tpi Bottom Bracket
 conundrum.

 Marty

 http://tinyurl.com/2chwpwo

 On Apr 30, 7:52 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:



  My road bikes are +/- 64cm, so these smaller MTBs are a stretch for
  me, but the nice big ones (especially lugged) don't show up very
  often. I still have half a mind to order up a custom 26 all-rounder
  in my size. Someday...

  Marty

  On Apr 30, 6:38 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:

   It's been a while since I've seen a bike makeover in the RR. Those were 
   the best. I'm getting nostalgic for those early to mid 00's.

   Great Rockhopper, by the way. It got me halfway to wanting to do that to 
   my 21.5 mountain bike. (I ride 25.2 road bikes.)

   -Jimmy W.

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   Subject: Re: [RBW] What a Difference A LittleAlbatrossMakes

   That's a great makeover. Reminds me of the ones they do from time to 
   time in
   the Riv Reader.

   On 4/30/10 3:13 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote:

I keep buying these bars, and they make every neglected old bike (in
this case, and old Rockhopper) something very special. Thanks
Rivendell, for introducing me to them!

Marty

   http://tinyurl.com/264rhdr

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[RBW] Re: Big Apples off-road

2010-05-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

Well, off-road covers a lot of ground, so to speak. On a dry trail
with scattered rocks as the main obstacles, or on a groomed but
unpaved trail, the BAs at lowish pressure would be ok or even great.
On the Minnesota River Bottoms, where I often ride, muddy, slippery
roots protrude at acute angles across the trail, and can send one ass-
over-teakettle pretty quickly if the tire doesn't have the knobbiness
to get traction on the roots.

On May 8, 11:56 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone used Big Apples off-road? I believe Jay's video shows him
 doing so and Grant said he loves them.

 Anyone else? Comarisons with knobbies?

 René

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[RBW] Re: Maybe WTB: 59 Bleriot?

2010-05-09 Thread terryg

I ride a 58cm LHT as my daily bike here in Chicago, and I ride a 58cm
650B Hilsen, set up for brevets and meandering.  There's always a
downer moment after I spend a weekend on long rides on the AHH and
the smoothness there, when getting back on the LHT and the less-
smoothness there. (Don't get me wrong, the Surly is an excellent bike
for my needs, so I'm confused at my thinking and emotions.)  I've
*often* thought how great it would be to just ride the Hilsen day in/
day out.  But that would be unwise where I ride -- note that I'm too
chicken to commute daily on my QB.

My ebay saved search brought the 59cm Bleriot mentioned above to my
attention, and my gears are turning.  Could I really seriously
consider a functional migration from my LHT to a Bleriot?  Not only
that, but the Bleriot would serve as an ideal backup to my AHH.
Given a long-term relationship with a Bleriot, I'd even consider SS
couplers so I could easily get elsewhere for brevets, or have a bike
when I visit family, etc.  To not have to carry my LHT up  down 4
flights of stairs every day, carrying a Bleriot instead.  I think that
would be another improvement (would it?).

I see one Bleriot on my commute sort of occasionally, and one (and the
same?) parks not far from where I work.  The potential availability of
a 59 Bleriot is - how shall I say it? - troubling?  Enticing.

On May 8, 6:58 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:
 That whole deal was a shame.  Especially since the Bleriot is such a
 nice bike.  I got mine way after it was discontinued and while I got a
 deal on it I still didn't get the price that the discount places were
 offering. Those were long gone. If I recall when I got one you had a
 great deal on one but it was a size larger than I needed.  Either way
 as soon as they were discontinued and they started drying up the price
 started to rise again and now that they are completely gone I would
 think they may have actually raised in value a bit.  I will be
 watching this one to see where it ends up.

 On May 8, 12:17 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
 wrote:





  Funny, I couldn't give the damned things away when they were still
  available. Too many internet discount places selling them $15 over
  cost.

  On May 7, 6:03 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:

   Yep, $750

   On May 7, 6:29 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

How much was that?  $750?

On May 7, 3:16 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:

 My guess is it will at least go for close to what Rivendell used to
 sell them for.  These are great frames.

 On May 7, 6:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

  I took a shot at it, but I'm already outbid.

  On May 7, 4:04 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:

   Not mine but I saw this on ebay.  Never built up.

  http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Bleriot-59-cm-Frame-650B-Never-Built-No...

   On Apr 22, 12:45 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote:

Smart-ass.  ;-)

-Scott

On Apr 21, 6:11 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you checked your basement?

 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Johnny Alien 
 johnnyal...@verizon.netwrote:

  These seem to be getting tougher to find. I absolutely love 
  mine.

  On Apr 21, 3:25 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
   All this talk of Bleriots got me thinking.  I'm maybe 
   looking for a
   59 frame/fork.  'Course, my maybes turn into ams, so...

   Ryan

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[RBW] For Sale: Quickbeam 56cm

2010-05-09 Thread Ken

Hello All,

I am new to this group. Honestly I joined because I am thinking of
selling my quickbeam and I would like to see if there is interest. I'd
like to sell it complete. Again I am testing the waters, I don't want
to waste anyone's time but I would like comments as I know what I have
into it but don't know what it is valued on the open market. I was
thinking of asking around $1800.

It is the orange frame. I bought the frame at Hiawatha Cyclery here in
Minneapolis three years ago. I built it up, with High Flange Phil hubs
laced to Mavic Open Pro Rims, hand built at Lickton Bike in Chicago,
Sugino Crown crank 175. Sugino Cup type bottom bracket, Brooks
Professional Sadde, Nitto Technomic Stem, Shimano Ultrega Seat Post,
Old Avid Machined Aluminum Cantilever brakes. After a year of single
speed riding I decided to add a shimano Alfine Hub. Jim at Hiawatha
built me a wheel the Alfine Hub laced to a mavic open pro rim. Now the
rear is Alfine Eight speed with a J-Tech bar end shifter. Its a very
nice set up.

So is there someone out there that would be interested in buying the
rig complete?

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[RBW] wtb: Rivendell Bleriot - 57cm

2010-05-09 Thread Eric

wtb: Riv Bleriot - 57cm. Frame/fork or complete. Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] headset stack height?

2010-05-09 Thread CycloFiend

on 5/8/10 8:10 PM, Horace at max...@sdf.lonestar.org replied to:
 I was looking at this picture of a large custom Rivendell with a tall
 headset:

 http://tinyurl.com/23rzeqm
with
 There is no choice. If you have a tall steerer tube, you need the spacers. If
 you want less height, you have to cut the steerer and use fewer spacers.

There's actually a little more to it than that - This idea of using spacers
on a threaded fork steerer cropped up in a Reader some time back - I think
it was a Mark hack.  (And I'm sure others have done it before, but this was
the first time I saw it specifically outlined in print. Certainly, using a
couple short spacers had been SOP.)

Since the fork is threaded, you are really changing the stack height of the
headset. Before you shorten the extension of the steerer tube, you want make
sure that the threading goes far enough down so you can tighten the top nut,
or plan on having the steerer threaded after cutting it.

The taller steerer tubes combined with the spacers probably allow a single
fork to be used on more than one frame.  When the fashion was to keep the
steerer tube cut to the miminim amount necessary to poke through the headube
of the frame, you pretty much had to have a fork matched to each size.

- Jim

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Re: [RBW] Big Apples off-road

2010-05-09 Thread CycloFiend

on 5/8/10 9:56 AM, Rene Sterental at orthie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has anyone used Big Apples off-road? I believe Jay's video shows him
 doing so and Grant said he loves them.
 
 Anyone else? Comarisons with knobbies?

I'm not running BA's yet, but over the past couple years, I've been spending
more time off road with smooth tires (Jack Browns and Paselas).

I'm really coming to the conclusion that with some practice and
mindfullness, tire placement and weight distribution covers 85-90% of the
situations successfully. Sticking with smooth tires has made me ride a bit
differently, but I've found few drawbacks.

Of course, that last 10-15% can be pretty interesting.  The area where
things go well and truly awry...

But, if you aren't where you need dune buggy tires, the big contact patch
that round profile tires provide (and I do find the JB's noticeably better
vs the Paselas) on trails work well.

It does make your fore/aft weight placement more critical.

- J

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