[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
I have the 700x40's (38 actual) and run them between 65 and 80 psi but I weigh 265. I think they roll really nice and way better than my Marathon 700x47's but those tires would probably last 12,000 miles, maybe more. All that rubber and 41mm wideness inspires confidence and a certain carefree ride that's hard to describe. The Supremes however ride like my old Panaracer 700x32 Urban Max tires only more cushy so I like them better and they just look right underneath my new Zeppelin fenders. I just took them for a quick four mile ride to the store (in the dark) and I think they were probably only holding 60psi but I felt fast. Its good to hear others are getting up to 3000 miles with them. I hope to get at least one good season out of them and possibly two, given the fact that I have other bikes and don't ride as much these days. Good tires they are IMHO. On Oct 29, 7:22 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: On Oct 29, 4:53 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: How do they roll? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM I'm not sure how to answer that question. If you mean pedaling effort, they seem pretty similar to the other tires I've used on my Atlantis (Panaracer Pasela T-Serve). My flat land riding gears are in the 60s 70s; I can't push +80 without a tailwind or gravity assist. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
All I ordered this week was some Silver shifters, but I talked a crabon-Dura-Ace-Felt-riding friend into ordering a Sam, and apparently he ordered $2000 worth of parts with that. Might turn out to be the ultimate Sam, SON front hub, Phil Rivvie rear, Nitto racks. So let a friend ride your Riv, and give them the sales pitch...:) Gernot On Oct 30, 2:30 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I have the 700x40's (38 actual) and run them between 65 and 80 psi but I weigh 265. I think they roll really nice and way better than my Marathon 700x47's but those tires would probably last 12,000 miles, maybe more. All that rubber and 41mm wideness inspires confidence and talked a friend into getting a a certain carefree ride that's hard to describe. The Supremes however ride like my old Panaracer 700x32 Urban Max tires only more cushy so I like them better and they just look right underneath my new Zeppelin fenders. I just took them for a quick four mile ride to the store (in the dark) and I think they were probably only holding 60psi but I felt fast. Its good to hear others are getting up to 3000 miles with them. I hope to get at least one good season out of them and possibly two, given the fact that I have other bikes and don't ride as much these days. Good tires they are IMHO. On Oct 29, 7:22 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: On Oct 29, 4:53 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: How do they roll? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM I'm not sure how to answer that question. If you mean pedaling effort, they seem pretty similar to the other tires I've used on my Atlantis (Panaracer Pasela T-Serve). My flat land riding gears are in the 60s 70s; I can't push +80 without a tailwind or gravity assist. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
I ride with my wallet in my back pocket, and sweat a lot here in Thailand, which means my leather wallets get disgusting after a while (they actually mold!). The only cloth wallets I seem to be finding are made by surf wear lifestyle companies, but someone's got to be making something more reasonable (no leather trim though, as much as I like that aesthetically). Come to think of it, seems like a good product to add to the Sackville line, although Riv's current financial situation probably doesn't make them feel like developing non-core products. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
http://www.rolfs.net/store/p/939-Trifold.aspx for $10.99, it's tough to beat. From: Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 3:06:17 AM Subject: [RBW] Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation I ride with my wallet in my back pocket, and sweat a lot here in Thailand, which means my leather wallets get disgusting after a while (they actually mold!). The only cloth wallets I seem to be finding are made by surf wear lifestyle companies, but someone's got to be making something more reasonable (no leather trim though, as much as I like that aesthetically). Come to think of it, seems like a good product to add to the Sackville line, although Riv's current financial situation probably doesn't make them feel like developing non-core products. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: More on 7 speed...plus Bleriot finally finished
According to the late Sheldon Brown, Suntour indexed shifters generally pull less cable than Shimano indexed shifters. See: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/freewheels.html A mixed arrangement CAN work, however. A Suntour 6 speed shifter actually has an extra click, and if used on a Shimano 7 speed cassette, should pull the right amount of cable to work. (I haven't tried this yet, since at the last minute I found a set of 7 speed indexed Shimano shifters to go with my 7-speed Shimano-compatible freewheel). But Sheldon Brown has never steered me wrong. Peace, BB On Oct 29, 8:23 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: one other note which may bear here: friction shifters will jump cogs (in the direction of spring tension - normal to the smaller gears, rapid rise the reverse) if the tension in the shifter lever screw is too loose. It bears checking when you eyeball your chain. When my Saluki started to mystery shift from any big gear down to a middle one, I knew right away what the culprit was. On the 7 8 speed thread: With a freewheel, I can swap any number of gears that will fit and of course, need no spacer. I have a 6 and a 7 speed currently in use. Like them both. From: William tapebu...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 7:07:15 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: More on 7 speed...plus Bleriot finally finished My buddy Doug bought a complete bike A.H.H. off the floor at Riv HQ. His rear cassette had two problem gears that bugged him to distraction. I rode behind him on an S24O and it was obviously not right. He'd shift perfectly into the 3rd cog, and as soon as he put some real pressure on the thing, it would pop out. Only on two cogs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
These are pretty sweet. If you don't see what you want, contact them and they can make to order. Both pack cloth and waterproof. No leather. Made in the U.S. by Laura and Joe. Great folks and great products. http://www.etsy.com/shop/soulrun On Oct 30, 4:06 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I ride with my wallet in my back pocket, and sweat a lot here in Thailand, which means my leather wallets get disgusting after a while (they actually mold!). The only cloth wallets I seem to be finding are made by surf wear lifestyle companies, but someone's got to be making something more reasonable (no leather trim though, as much as I like that aesthetically). Come to think of it, seems like a good product to add to the Sackville line, although Riv's current financial situation probably doesn't make them feel like developing non-core products. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
Jandd has a nice Trifold one http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FTFW I was going to recommend Eagle Creek, but they've changed their wallets, no more Trifolds. Too bad, I've used the same one for about 15 years. Lifetime warranty too, I had them replace the velcro on it for no charge. The Cordura just doesn't wear out though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1950 rough stuff race
Well, on that easy ride we did last year around San Diego, ended up severely dehydrated. Drank two large bottles on the ride and that still wasn't enough. Derrick had to give me one of his bottles to finish the ride. (That was after the second stop to repair a flat.) So, yeah, too much is probably better than the alternative. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 30, 12:21 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, this is probably overkill, but it can't hurt to have! On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:35 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Since my gofast has, alas, provision for only one bottle cage (and I don't want to use a strap one one), I simply use a discarded PET soda or paid-for-water bottle in my saddlebag or jersey pocket -- won't leak, convenient shape and sizes, and you can discard (properly) when you are done. When it is 100F and 5% humidity, I can drink a lot even in 20 miles. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I think Noel suggested bringing extra water along, and someone else (Mike?) said these work pretty good in a saddle bag: http://www.rei.com/product/797977 On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:01 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: There was at least one fixed gear that I noticed. The guy was pushing the bike thru some boggy looking stuff the pedals were turning. Of course, if he tossed it into the drink, got some mud in the FW, it may have started the day SS was now fixed! You're right; hard to know what the total course looked like from the film. Only the fun bits (water crossings, etc) would be interesting to film. David: What's a Platypus? My Atlantis has 3 cages I've never run out of water, even in Utah Arizona. We're riding in Orange County, not Africa or Australia. And the beauty is, if you conk out, it's all downhill (really, truly, no BS, cross my heart, etc.) back to the start. dougP On Oct 29, 8:47 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I just purchased a Platypus as word on the street is we'll need lots of water. As for the video, I noticed several derailer-less bikes. Whether they were fixed, SS or IGH, I don't know, but am guessing SS. You can try to guess what ratios they were running (if SS). And it depends on what kind of road sections they didn't show. I would guess they shot most of the film at the water crossings and barriers rather than the straight away roads. The guy doing the voiceover is pretty cool. Some 40 years after the fact, he remembers everyone's name, what they placed, what their day jobs were. Pretty cool guy! On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:14 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Patrick: Thanks for the links. I rarely check BSNYC but these are pretty funny. Fortunately, our little November 13 adventure in Silverado Cyn won't require anything like this level of complexity. No stoves, warm- up equipment or special skin treatments needed. I'd better take a cruise out there to make sure the appropriate post-ride liquids are available. dougP On Oct 29, 7:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: (in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields), Is this because of the type of course, or overall? Wouldn't a single 63 gear be quite competitive on a course like that shown in the video, with few fast flats and a lot of throwing, carrying and mud path grinding? I'm curious if a gear spread would be much of an advantage on such a course -- didn't see much shifting in the video (tho' of course they had far less to shift than we do today). Even a half mile paved section could be covered at 25 mph at 135 rpm in a 63 gear; would someone with a gear spread be able to make huge amounts of time over this on such a short flat? Not doubting, just asking. And I know nothing about CX except that it's done largely on dirt and that you need a huge kit for it. ( http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/10/news/what-to-bring-to-a-cycloc.. .) Courtesy of youknowwho: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2010/10/spending-power-whos-1.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Good job. Sounds awfully close to my own Sam. Hopefully he enjoys it. Here's how mine has looked most of this year - http://tinyurl.com/2e7uqac Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 30, 2:59 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: All I ordered this week was some Silver shifters, but I talked a crabon-Dura-Ace-Felt-riding friend into ordering a Sam, and apparently he ordered $2000 worth of parts with that. Might turn out to be the ultimate Sam, SON front hub, Phil Rivvie rear, Nitto racks. So let a friend ride your Riv, and give them the sales pitch...:) Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
Have used a Kavu wallet in the past. http://tinyurl.com/33w6crz Personally went away from the cloth wallets as they wear out on my. Too much sweating. Especially if I carry it while riding. Everything just soaks through. End up just carrying my wallet in a bike bag instead. Also makes it impossible to carry a camera on my person while riding. (That might be a good thing, though.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 30, 7:33 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Jandd has a nice Trifold onehttp://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FTFW I was going to recommend Eagle Creek, but they've changed their wallets, no more Trifolds. Too bad, I've used the same one for about 15 years. Lifetime warranty too, I had them replace the velcro on it for no charge. The Cordura just doesn't wear out though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Betty Foy ordered for my wife, Winter is coming on...need some new riding clothes. Time to support the home team - Rivendell! Joel - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
I've used this wallet on the plains of Kansas with our 90-100 degree days and high humidity: http://www.all-ett.com/ Luke -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
Whatever else you can say about them, they have a clever URL. -- Jon ³Papa² Grant, riding solo today in chilly Austin, Texas From: lukemcg luke...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 06:28:35 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation I've used this wallet on the plains of Kansas with our 90-100 degree days and high humidity: http://www.all-ett.com/ Luke -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Thanks for the reminder John...order placed. On Oct 29, 12:46 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: We've had a super slow week, and yesterday was the slowest day of all. Grant wrote this last night: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/303 Dave thought of this a little while ago: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/304 As Grant said, If you plan to buy something anyway and we have ithope to hear from you. Cheers, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
Come on, it's Rivendell. Get a piece of waxed canvas and a zip-tie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
Exactly: I just use a toe strap around a wad of bills. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Weird Harold alanpcr...@yahoo.com wrote: Come on, it's Rivendell. Get a piece of waxed canvas and a zip-tie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Grand Bois 650B x 36 mm tires
Grand Bois announces their new 650B x 36 mm tires. http://janheine.wordpress.com/ The goal is to replace the Mitsuboshi Trimlines with a tire of similar size, which rides better, is a bit faster, yet lasts about as long (which is very long indeed). I still prefer the Hetre for bikes that can fit 41 mm-wide tires, but for those who lack the clearance, the new Grand Bois Lierre (Ivy) should be a great addition. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly 2116 Western Ave. Seattle WA 98121 http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
I've had a couple of these: http://www.aerostich.com/packing-it-in/more-packing-options/wallets-and-travel-security/world-s-thinnest-wallets-executive.html Super thin, nylon. Not excessively durable, but a decent trade-off for the lack of bulk. Rob in Seattle On Oct 30, 2010, at 3:07 AM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.rolfs.net/store/p/939-Trifold.aspx for $10.99, it's tough to beat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Thanks for this. Can you point me to the Schwalbe speed chart? I am now torn between the Supremes and the 50 mm Liteskin Big Apple ... I know the 60 BAs are very nice rolling for their width, softeness and bulk. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, No the Marathon Supremes are not dogs. But, it depends on your definition of a dog tire! From other forums I participate in, lots of folks use them and they are quick rolling tires. You can look in Schwalbes speed chart for each tire too, the Supremes are the best rolling of all the Marathons except the Racer. But hey, 40mm tires are 40mm tires. They are 28's, and will never be like them. It's mostly a matter of physics. Look at specs. The weight, tread and compound pretty much tell the story. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: [BOB] New to group: interested in RB
Welcome to the list. Look at the current line of Rivendell models -- personally, had I the cash (and if I really wanted to add another bike to the herd just now) I'd choose the Roadeo -- nice road racer with more tire, fender clearance. And, at 6', Grant would probably put you on a 64 cm. Just kidding, tho' at 5'10 with long, six-footer torso, he'd probably put me on a 60. (I ride a 58 myself and have 57 and 58 customs but only because Grant bent a rule at my pleading.) List: Let's see some photos of Roadeos set up light and fast (no damn' luggage and Albatross bars!). On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Jeffrey Ellington ellin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone! I am new to this list, and am really excited about switching to a steel bike. I posted in CR and many people suggested I look at bridgestone bikes. I have to say, they are gorgeous-have a different look than most other bikes at that time. I am interested in getting an RB1 or 2 either as a frameset or full build. I am 6'0, and ride a 58ctc. Anything 57-59 ctc should work just fine! Thanks for any/all your help in advance! Advice is GREATLY appreciated. Enjoy the weekend. Jeff Ellington Bay Area, CA ___ Internet-bob mailing list internet-...@bikelist.org search and browse the archives: http://search.bikelist.org unsubscribe: http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-bob -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
With each tire description there is a little chart Schwalbe shows. http://www.schwalbetires.com/sites/all/definitions//Evaluation.html http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/toughest http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/faster On Oct 30, 11:50 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this. Can you point me to the Schwalbe speed chart? I am now torn between the Supremes and the 50 mm Liteskin Big Apple ... I know the 60 BAs are very nice rolling for their width, softeness and bulk. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, No the Marathon Supremes are not dogs. But, it depends on your definition of a dog tire! From other forums I participate in, lots of folks use them and they are quick rolling tires. You can look in Schwalbes speed chart for each tire too, the Supremes are the best rolling of all the Marathons except the Racer. But hey, 40mm tires are 40mm tires. They are 28's, and will never be like them. It's mostly a matter of physics. Look at specs. The weight, tread and compound pretty much tell the story. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
Vegan version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5129014316/ (What you get when you're home sick on a rainy Saturday morning) On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:35 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Exactly: I just use a toe strap around a wad of bills. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Weird Harold alanpcr...@yahoo.comwrote: Come on, it's Rivendell. Get a piece of waxed canvas and a zip-tie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
I forgot to add.the main difference in the Supremes and BA Liteskin is durability and volume. For my $$, I'd choose the Supreme because I perfer the longevity over the minor volume loss. Despite the same labeled size, it will be a little smaller in width and volume, 2-3mm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Thanks -- very useful. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: With each tire description there is a little chart Schwalbe shows. http://www.schwalbetires.com/sites/all/definitions//Evaluation.html http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/toughest http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/faster On Oct 30, 11:50 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this. Can you point me to the Schwalbe speed chart? I am now torn between the Supremes and the 50 mm Liteskin Big Apple ... I know the 60 BAs are very nice rolling for their width, softeness and bulk. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, No the Marathon Supremes are not dogs. But, it depends on your definition of a dog tire! From other forums I participate in, lots of folks use them and they are quick rolling tires. You can look in Schwalbes speed chart for each tire too, the Supremes are the best rolling of all the Marathons except the Racer. But hey, 40mm tires are 40mm tires. They are 28's, and will never be like them. It's mostly a matter of physics. Look at specs. The weight, tread and compound pretty much tell the story. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
SOMEWHAT angry? Who raised that moron? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 7:24 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site My first bike shop job was at one of the larger shops in the area, and the owner is/was a pretty hard-headed, sharp-elbowed businessman. I remember one time hearing him telling an aspiring-but-procrastinating customer I'm not operating a museum. That has stuck with me over the years - in this business I can have nice bikes on display and offer lots of good advice to anybody who comes through the door, but merchandise has to be sold and cash has to flow in. Tire-kickers and gawkers need to be subsidized by the people who buy stuff. Recently my staff and I spent a couple hours with a customer, answering questions, letting him ride different bikes, etc. On his third call, he started asking about different handlebars, and I answered his questions based on my experience. Ten minutes into the call he tells me he decided to buy the bike, which I had in stock, from another place. I just remembered, I'm not operating a museum (or, for that matter, a free consulting business), and the remainder of the conversation was incredibly brief. I am glad that I got off the phone quickly, because I was somewhat angry about it... On Oct 29, 6:02 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Jim Hill's comments remind me, for some reason, of a quote they used to hang on the wall in City Lights Bookstore, in SF: People who say they love poetry and never buy any are a bunch of cheap sons-of-bitches. - attributed variously to Kenneth Patchen and Lawrence Ferlinghetti Hope that doesn't offend anyone, it's offered in humor. Anyway I needed some new woolie stuff, so I ordered it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Patrick, I have both and aside from telling that the supremes weigh significantly less, I can't really tell if they roll ant faster on my regular commute of pavement and gravel. My max speed on the downhills seems to be the same. René Sent from my iPhone 4 On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:50 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this. Can you point me to the Schwalbe speed chart? I am now torn between the Supremes and the 50 mm Liteskin Big Apple ... I know the 60 BAs are very nice rolling for their width, softeness and bulk. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, No the Marathon Supremes are not dogs. But, it depends on your definition of a dog tire! From other forums I participate in, lots of folks use them and they are quick rolling tires. You can look in Schwalbes speed chart for each tire too, the Supremes are the best rolling of all the Marathons except the Racer. But hey, 40mm tires are 40mm tires. They are 28's, and will never be like them. It's mostly a matter of physics. Look at specs. The weight, tread and compound pretty much tell the story. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grand Bois 650B x 36 mm tires
And yet another 650b tire to choose from. Things just keep getting better. On Oct 30, 10:35 am, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: Grand Bois announces their new 650B x 36 mm tires. http://janheine.wordpress.com/ The goal is to replace the Mitsuboshi Trimlines with a tire of similar size, which rides better, is a bit faster, yet lasts about as long (which is very long indeed). I still prefer the Hetre for bikes that can fit 41 mm-wide tires, but for those who lack the clearance, the new Grand Bois Lierre (Ivy) should be a great addition. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly 2116 Western Ave. Seattle WA 98121http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com Follow our blog athttp://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
Thanks everyone. Am particularly impressed by Soulrun's stuff. Have asked them if they would do a custom, and may get a matching tool roll, while I am at it. :) Also found another interesting etsy vendor making wallets out of sailcloth, http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=6885190section_id=6388280 At $45 they are a bit pricey, but some of them ARE made out of carbon fiber, and we all know how expensive that is... but maybe someone has finally found a good use for the stuff. Actually I may have to get one of those, so that my tagline can be: My wallet may be carbon fiber, but my bike is lugged steel. Or should that be: My bike may be lugged steel, but my wallet is carbon fiber. Gernot On Oct 30, 11:12 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Vegan version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5129014316/ (What you get when you're home sick on a rainy Saturday morning) On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:35 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Exactly: I just use a toe strap around a wad of bills. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Weird Harold alanpcr...@yahoo.comwrote: Come on, it's Rivendell. Get a piece of waxed canvas and a zip-tie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
Hi Michael, unhappy how? I was thinking of getting the most expensive SRAM 8 speed I can find, which seems to be about $15 (the 850), because I like the gear ratios better than Shimano's. Now you have me worried, as my current cassette on the Sam is an Ultegra, and indeed shifts dream- like. I may overshift a gear occasionally, but the chain never jumps back and forth nor makes any noise whatsoever. Gernot On Oct 30, 3:22 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I use silver shifters and 9 speed. I have been very happy with it. I tried using an inexpensive sram cassette and chain and was very, very unhappy with it. When I returned to the good Ultegra cassette and conex 908 chain I returned to excellent shifting. I use Dura Ace indexed bar ends and a 9 speed set up on my tandem but find that the silvers out perform the DA. I also try to use the shortest cage derailler I can get away with. I had very good shifting with a mid length Centaur, but when I switched to a CD, I purchased the new Shimano short cage and find I never miss a shift and only very rarely have to trim the rear derailler. I don't see how it could get better than that! Michael On Oct 28, 10:44 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of replacing a Shimano 9 speed cassette with an 8. Shifters are Silvers. Do I need to upgrade the 9 sp Sram chain to an 8 sp as well? My hunch is that with friction I won't notice a difference. Has anyone tried this? Am I being silly? I have 3 bikes with 9 speed, and one in storage with 7. Should I just leave well enough alone? I find the Silvers shift great most of the time, though sometimes I shift two gears when I intend to only shift one (not a big deal with a close ratio cassette). The Shimano barends on another bike don't shift so well in friction on 9 speed, but I did just order another pair of Silvers. Just curious how much better Silvers shift over 8 compared to 9 speeds, and whether that would be further improved by using an 8 sp chain. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: More on 7 speed...plus Bleriot finally finished
Having ridden both Shimano and Suntour 7 speed indexed bikes back when that was the newest thing, I can confirm that Suntour indexed 7 did not shift as buttery smooth as Shimano, but did not jump out of gear unexpectedly. Rather, even with indexing, one had to occasionally overshift (with Suntour Command Shifters) to get the chain to move to the next cog when downshifting. Gernot On Oct 30, 6:35 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: According to the late Sheldon Brown, Suntour indexed shifters generally pull less cable than Shimano indexed shifters. See:http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/freewheels.html A mixed arrangement CAN work, however. A Suntour 6 speed shifter actually has an extra click, and if used on a Shimano 7 speed cassette, should pull the right amount of cable to work. (I haven't tried this yet, since at the last minute I found a set of 7 speed indexed Shimano shifters to go with my 7-speed Shimano-compatible freewheel). But Sheldon Brown has never steered me wrong. Peace, BB On Oct 29, 8:23 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: one other note which may bear here: friction shifters will jump cogs (in the direction of spring tension - normal to the smaller gears, rapid rise the reverse) if the tension in the shifter lever screw is too loose. It bears checking when you eyeball your chain. When my Saluki started to mystery shift from any big gear down to a middle one, I knew right away what the culprit was. On the 7 8 speed thread: With a freewheel, I can swap any number of gears that will fit and of course, need no spacer. I have a 6 and a 7 speed currently in use. Like them both. From: William tapebu...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 7:07:15 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: More on 7 speed...plus Bleriot finally finished My buddy Doug bought a complete bike A.H.H. off the floor at Riv HQ. His rear cassette had two problem gears that bugged him to distraction. I rode behind him on an S24O and it was obviously not right. He'd shift perfectly into the 3rd cog, and as soon as he put some real pressure on the thing, it would pop out. Only on two cogs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Betty Foy Commuter
Here is the latest Betty Foy Build for a customer in DC: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ Lisa has a longish commute (mostly along bike paths) and plans to be a year-round rider. The dynamo XT wheelset is from Peter White, as is the BM Cyo N Plus light. The Ultegra drivetrain is a good choice for her intended type of riding; the 9/10-speed Sugino Alpina crankset is definitely an improvement over the regular Sugino 500XD in terms of smoother shifting. As always, just let me know if you have any questions or comments. Enjoy your weekend, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
Have you looked at the Nau billfold? http://www.nau.com/mens/categories/accessories/billfold-807U01.html I have one and like it, though it's a little bigger than I had hoped. -Eric On Oct 30, 9:06 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I ride with my wallet in my back pocket, and sweat a lot here in Thailand, which means my leather wallets get disgusting after a while (they actually mold!). The only cloth wallets I seem to be finding are made by surf wear lifestyle companies, but someone's got to be making something more reasonable (no leather trim though, as much as I like that aesthetically). Come to think of it, seems like a good product to add to the Sackville line, although Riv's current financial situation probably doesn't make them feel like developing non-core products. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just Thoughts
Well the Hilbourne seems awfully close the AHH that I just bought. Though it looks like I'm buying the wife one once we see what shade of Red is available. I have a 96.5 PBH Weight about 225 .. which is normally Feb weight.. bad year for weight. Wife cooks to good. I go for week to 2 week long tours... CO was about as rough terrain as I've done.. but I do carry 65 70 lbs with me on the panniers. So... custom to get what I want makes more since than buying another bike just because It might work ok.. I have a garage full of those. Have to see.. thanks for the imput... guess I'll call riv tomorrow talk.. later Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: campy track cranks (blue!) and late 80's FW hub, nitto RM013 dirt drops
Cranks and bars are sold. On Oct 27, 9:46 am, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Some odd items but i'm fairly low on bike project funds so need to free up some capital. I'd prefer local pickup in the Sacramento/Davis area or the SF Bay Area, especially on the hub and bars, but will consider shipping as well. Cash, check, or money order. Pics upon request. 1. 1982 Campagnolo BMX Cranks, Blue Anodized! These are functionally identical to early 1980's campy track cranks, except for the anodizing and the fact that they say strada instead of pista on the inside of the arms. 170mm length, 144bcd, single chainring only (no shoulders on the inside of the spider). These have one minor flaw: the guy that I got them from said that some of the driveside extractor threads had been messed up. Visual inspection shows that the first two or three extractor threads are in fact stripped, maybe from trying to use self-extractor bolts? However, I can still thread in my crank puller all the way and, in my judgement, there would be plenty of engagement to be able to safely pull them. Other than that and some very minor wear around the pedal eyes, these cranks are in great condition and obviously haven't been ridden very much--the anodizing hasn't even been worn off the inside of the taper holes. You'd need the right bike (custom blue quickbeam?), but these cranks look great. I'll include an unused, 48t Salsa 144bcd, 1/8 width chainring (sorry, it's silver). $100 2. Campagnolo Freewheel hub, 28 hole, low flange, 126mm OLN, QR axle. Best I can place it from Campy Only's timeline is mid-to-late 1980's-- the hub body is slightly raised in the center around the metal grease port clip. This hub was in a wheelset on a bike that was since converted to fixed gear, so the spoke holes do show signs of having been built, and it probably could use some fresh grease. $20. 3. Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop bars, 48cm, 26mm clamp diameter. Got the bars new when Salsa found that stash in August of 09. Rode them for probably less than 1500 miles last spring, so the bars have some tape residue, but that's it. Good bars but too narrow for me. $45. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: 61cm - 64cm Rivendell
Frame or Bike. I have a NOS powdercoated custom lugged frame Protovelo built by custom builder Mark Nobilette. 64cm. Too small for me. Just to good of a deal at the time. Essentially a half price custom. $1500 or best offer. Will turn around and order 68 Bomba from Rivendell if sold. On Oct 29, 2:38 pm, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: Feeler for a 61-64 Rivendell. In accordance with Riv sizing, I'm 6'2 and my PBH is 89-90cm. Rom, Ram, AH Hilsen, custom, possibly an Atlantis. LMK what you have and price. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] More on 7 speed...plus Bleriot finally finished
The mechanic was boh right and wrong. Suntour shifted as well with all Suntour parts but they were unable to control the OEM as well as Shimano and they didn't shift without the proper chain. That is no longer a huge issue as chains have come a long way. I have Suntour XC_Expert derailleurs and thumb shifters on my Sam Hillborn with a SRAM P-350 11-30 8 speed cassette on DT Swiss 370 hubs. They indexes very well if you know how to set them up. Suntour systems shifted at a different point in the movement of the derailleur compared to Shimano and if you set the derailleur up like a Shimano then it will not shift right. With Suntour psrts on a Shimano/SRAM cassette you have to get the derailleur to pull the chain off the cog sooner. To do that turn the B screw all the way in and move the derailleur all the way back and then adjust the shifting. Ignore what the instructions say about lining up the upper pulley with the cogs. You may need to back off on the B screw a bit to get it right bit it will work and mine has stayed in adjustment. I have one shift where I get a noticable Clunk when down shifting but I have no ghost shiting and no chain rattle. I have well over 3000 miles on this system and am on the second chain Interestingly, when I take the bike into a bike shop they always mess up the settings. I don't letthem change my derailleur cables or adjust the rear derailleur. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:15 PM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi After reading with interest the previous post about going down in the number of sprockets from 9 to 8 to 7, I decided to post and share what I've been dealing with. First of all, I have a 8 speed Hillborne with Silver shifters built up by Riv that shifts perfectly...pretty much all the time. About 6 months ago, I purchased off this list a used Bleriot frameset and have slowly been building it up on a budget. I'm finally done but am having some shifting issues. By the way, this is the first bike I ever completely built up all the way from installing headset and BB to adjusting derailleurs, etc. So it was a great learning experience. It's built up as an old man townie 14 speed with the VO wide range compact double cranksetthe one that's the TA ripoff. I used a budget Shimano 7 speed cassette with the appropriate 4.5mm spacer for the current Deore rear hub. I am using some vintage Suntour handlebar thumbshifters that I purchased NOS about 2 years ago and used on another bike..so they have plenty of life left in them. The crankset is 46T / 30T and the 7 speed cassette is 13-28. Initially I planned on using the Index setting for the shifters as they are 7 speed, but I could never get accurate shits. I did speak to one mechanic who said Suntours of that era never shifted well and that's what brought them down. I don't know if I believe that. So, since I normally ride friction, I've been content to do that. but... The bike slips out of gear often enough to make me think there is some problem. Usually its in third largest cog on the cassette. and the second smallest. I do have to do a decent amount of trimming when in the large chainring which is what I'm in 85% of the time. The little 30T front chainring is reserved for climbing. Also one more thing...The VO crank and the recommended 118 BB didn't work initially on the Bleriot. The crankarms would hit the chainstays so I used another very long BB that I had. It's 127.5! I think the ideal BB spindle length for this combo would be 122-ish. I don't know if that is contributing to the shifting slipping, but it seems to inconsequential to me when I'm riding because that crankset is so low-Q to begin with. Any suggestions? I am thinking of maybe taking one more link out of the chain. Photos below: http://gallery.me.com/jasonaschwartz#100082 Thanks, Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Fai Mao The Blogger who sometimes responds to comments -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Proto Bombadil article from Riv Reader
I was cleaning up my bike pile and found the Spring 2007 Riv Reader with the article about the Bombadil. If anyone is interested I scanned it and posted it to the Flickr Bombadil group: http://www.flickr.com/groups/bombadil/pool/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] RainBeam
From today's ride near Davis, CA: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/5129645066/ --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Thanks, Rene; one more small + for the BAs, as far as I am concerned. Patrick Moore, who hit 36.5 mph down the usual, 4/10 mile S bend hill this morning on 60 mm BAs at 12/17 psi. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, I have both and aside from telling that the supremes weigh significantly less, I can't really tell if they roll ant faster on my regular commute of pavement and gravel. My max speed on the downhills seems to be the same. René Sent from my iPhone 4 On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:50 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this. Can you point me to the Schwalbe speed chart? I am now torn between the Supremes and the 50 mm Liteskin Big Apple ... I know the 60 BAs are very nice rolling for their width, softeness and bulk. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, No the Marathon Supremes are not dogs. But, it depends on your definition of a dog tire! From other forums I participate in, lots of folks use them and they are quick rolling tires. You can look in Schwalbes speed chart for each tire too, the Supremes are the best rolling of all the Marathons except the Racer. But hey, 40mm tires are 40mm tires. They are 28's, and will never be like them. It's mostly a matter of physics. Look at specs. The weight, tread and compound pretty much tell the story. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1950 rough stuff race
The Platypus looks interesting, and that's like 1-1/2 big bottles. That 3rd bottle gets kinda grungy at times. Extra water can be handy for washing out scrapes too. dougP On Oct 29, 9:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I think Noel suggested bringing extra water along, and someone else (Mike?) said these work pretty good in a saddle bag:http://www.rei.com/product/797977 On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:01 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: There was at least one fixed gear that I noticed. The guy was pushing the bike thru some boggy looking stuff the pedals were turning. Of course, if he tossed it into the drink, got some mud in the FW, it may have started the day SS was now fixed! You're right; hard to know what the total course looked like from the film. Only the fun bits (water crossings, etc) would be interesting to film. David: What's a Platypus? My Atlantis has 3 cages I've never run out of water, even in Utah Arizona. We're riding in Orange County, not Africa or Australia. And the beauty is, if you conk out, it's all downhill (really, truly, no BS, cross my heart, etc.) back to the start. dougP On Oct 29, 8:47 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I just purchased a Platypus as word on the street is we'll need lots of water. As for the video, I noticed several derailer-less bikes. Whether they were fixed, SS or IGH, I don't know, but am guessing SS. You can try to guess what ratios they were running (if SS). And it depends on what kind of road sections they didn't show. I would guess they shot most of the film at the water crossings and barriers rather than the straight away roads. The guy doing the voiceover is pretty cool. Some 40 years after the fact, he remembers everyone's name, what they placed, what their day jobs were. Pretty cool guy! On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:14 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Patrick: Thanks for the links. I rarely check BSNYC but these are pretty funny. Fortunately, our little November 13 adventure in Silverado Cyn won't require anything like this level of complexity. No stoves, warm- up equipment or special skin treatments needed. I'd better take a cruise out there to make sure the appropriate post-ride liquids are available. dougP On Oct 29, 7:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: (in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields), Is this because of the type of course, or overall? Wouldn't a single 63 gear be quite competitive on a course like that shown in the video, with few fast flats and a lot of throwing, carrying and mud path grinding? I'm curious if a gear spread would be much of an advantage on such a course -- didn't see much shifting in the video (tho' of course they had far less to shift than we do today). Even a half mile paved section could be covered at 25 mph at 135 rpm in a 63 gear; would someone with a gear spread be able to make huge amounts of time over this on such a short flat? Not doubting, just asking. And I know nothing about CX except that it's done largely on dirt and that you need a huge kit for it. ( http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/10/news/what-to-bring-to-a-cycloc.. .) Courtesy of youknowwho: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2010/10/spending-power-whos-1.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS- Hide
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
I am using a SRAM PG 850 series 11-32 cassette (silver) with DA 9 speed barends in friction mode and it works fine, a little slop here and there but that is probably user error as I haven't been frictioning all that long. The thing I like about the 8 speed setup is that I can get the SRAM 850 cassette and chain for under $40 total before shipping with just a little shopping. Amazon has them in that range pretty regularly. Try doing that in 9 speed. Ryan On Oct 30, 10:48 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Michael, unhappy how? I was thinking of getting the most expensive SRAM 8 speed I can find, which seems to be about $15 (the 850), because I like the gear ratios better than Shimano's. Now you have me worried, as my current cassette on the Sam is an Ultegra, and indeed shifts dream- like. I may overshift a gear occasionally, but the chain never jumps back and forth nor makes any noise whatsoever. Gernot On Oct 30, 3:22 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I use silver shifters and 9 speed. I have been very happy with it. I tried using an inexpensive sram cassette and chain and was very, very unhappy with it. When I returned to the good Ultegra cassette and conex 908 chain I returned to excellent shifting. I use Dura Ace indexed bar ends and a 9 speed set up on my tandem but find that the silvers out perform the DA. I also try to use the shortest cage derailler I can get away with. I had very good shifting with a mid length Centaur, but when I switched to a CD, I purchased the new Shimano short cage and find I never miss a shift and only very rarely have to trim the rear derailler. I don't see how it could get better than that! Michael On Oct 28, 10:44 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of replacing a Shimano 9 speed cassette with an 8. Shifters are Silvers. Do I need to upgrade the 9 sp Sram chain to an 8 sp as well? My hunch is that with friction I won't notice a difference. Has anyone tried this? Am I being silly? I have 3 bikes with 9 speed, and one in storage with 7. Should I just leave well enough alone? I find the Silvers shift great most of the time, though sometimes I shift two gears when I intend to only shift one (not a big deal with a close ratio cassette). The Shimano barends on another bike don't shift so well in friction on 9 speed, but I did just order another pair of Silvers. Just curious how much better Silvers shift over 8 compared to 9 speeds, and whether that would be further improved by using an 8 sp chain. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Hey Patrick, who's to say you have to get both tires the same? Get one of each! While I thought I was kidding . come to think of it , why not? It's funny how we assume we need the same tire front and rear, but the two serve totally different functions and ride completely different. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 09:46 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: I've got the toe strap; can anyone supply the bills? Back in the old colonial days, when my father was stationed as a burra sahib/bwana in India, Nairobi and Karachi and traveled to points even sweatier and further without the law, he, being careful of his kit, would put his nice leather wallet in a small plastic bag -- forget if they had ziplocks back in the '70s, India got its independence from Britain in 1947. I'm confident they did not have ziplock bags in 1947. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1950 rough stuff race
On Oct 29, 10:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: (in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields), Is this because of the type of course, or overall? Not doubting, just asking. And I know nothing about CX except that it's done largely on dirt and that you need a huge kit for it. Overall. there's just no way a ss'er can keep up with fast guys and gals on geared bikes. it doesn't really matter if there are few fast flats - CX involves lots of short sprints/accelerations out of tight turns, steep punchy hills and other rideable obstacles where having a range of gears is a real advantage. ss'ers simply can't accelerate as quickly enough out of turns, especially with a big gear, and they can't ride some features on a course, which costs time on every lap. it doesn't take long to get dropped in cyclocross. here are some more modern cross videos, if you're interested in what typical cx courses look like - first link is New England races, second link is to videos from the portland cross crusade series. http://vimeo.com/user662800/videos http://vimeo.com/16259685 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: High Praise
Work has become 'this thing I do in the middle of my ride' on my Bomba- commuter (yes, it makes me smile every time). Clearly I am currently 'working to live', though I still aspire to 'live to work' someday. Perhaps when I retire... (though I sure hope it's before that). Riding my Riv helps keep things in perspective. On Oct 29, 8:11 am, George Schick bhim...@gmail.com wrote: Jim - I agree. Every time I hop onto my Rambouillet I am amazed all over again at what a great handling bike and wonderful ride I am on. I wish I would've had a bike like that many, many years ago. George On Oct 28, 7:16 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: I was lucky enough to get a new car last Sunday. It's really nice; the whole new car experience, everything working. Comfortable. Fun to drive. I'm honestly excited about it. And on Monday morning to come to work, I still couldn't wait to get on my 2003 Rambouillet and ride that. That's how great the Rambouillet is. And it's been like that every day this week. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
Of course, you could always learn how to make a wallet out of duct tape... they last quite a while and tend to protect their contents from the perils of butt-sweat. And no mold. On Oct 30, 3:01 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 09:46 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: I've got the toe strap; can anyone supply the bills? Back in the old colonial days, when my father was stationed as a burra sahib/bwana in India, Nairobi and Karachi and traveled to points even sweatier and further without the law, he, being careful of his kit, would put his nice leather wallet in a small plastic bag -- forget if they had ziplocks back in the '70s, India got its independence from Britain in 1947. I'm confident they did not have ziplock bags in 1947. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 15:38 -0700, Peter Andrews wrote: For what it's worth, duct tape was developed in 1942, so it might well have been available in colonial India. Not sure anybody had thought of making a wallet out if it, though... Of course, you could always learn how to make a wallet out of duct tape... they last quite a while and tend to protect their contents from the perils of butt-sweat. And no mold. On Oct 30, 3:01 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 09:46 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: I've got the toe strap; can anyone supply the bills? Back in the old colonial days, when my father was stationed as a burra sahib/bwana in India, Nairobi and Karachi and traveled to points even sweatier and further without the law, he, being careful of his kit, would put his nice leather wallet in a small plastic bag -- forget if they had ziplocks back in the '70s, India got its independence from Britain in 1947. I'm confident they did not have ziplock bags in 1947. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 1950 rough stuff race
And I only have to bottle holders. I ride an inferior bike. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:29 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: The Platypus looks interesting, and that's like 1-1/2 big bottles. That 3rd bottle gets kinda grungy at times. Extra water can be handy for washing out scrapes too. dougP On Oct 29, 9:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I think Noel suggested bringing extra water along, and someone else (Mike?) said these work pretty good in a saddle bag: http://www.rei.com/product/797977 On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:01 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: There was at least one fixed gear that I noticed. The guy was pushing the bike thru some boggy looking stuff the pedals were turning. Of course, if he tossed it into the drink, got some mud in the FW, it may have started the day SS was now fixed! You're right; hard to know what the total course looked like from the film. Only the fun bits (water crossings, etc) would be interesting to film. David: What's a Platypus? My Atlantis has 3 cages I've never run out of water, even in Utah Arizona. We're riding in Orange County, not Africa or Australia. And the beauty is, if you conk out, it's all downhill (really, truly, no BS, cross my heart, etc.) back to the start. dougP On Oct 29, 8:47 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I just purchased a Platypus as word on the street is we'll need lots of water. As for the video, I noticed several derailer-less bikes. Whether they were fixed, SS or IGH, I don't know, but am guessing SS. You can try to guess what ratios they were running (if SS). And it depends on what kind of road sections they didn't show. I would guess they shot most of the film at the water crossings and barriers rather than the straight away roads. The guy doing the voiceover is pretty cool. Some 40 years after the fact, he remembers everyone's name, what they placed, what their day jobs were. Pretty cool guy! On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:14 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Patrick: Thanks for the links. I rarely check BSNYC but these are pretty funny. Fortunately, our little November 13 adventure in Silverado Cyn won't require anything like this level of complexity. No stoves, warm- up equipment or special skin treatments needed. I'd better take a cruise out there to make sure the appropriate post-ride liquids are available. dougP On Oct 29, 7:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: (in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields), Is this because of the type of course, or overall? Wouldn't a single 63 gear be quite competitive on a course like that shown in the video, with few fast flats and a lot of throwing, carrying and mud path grinding? I'm curious if a gear spread would be much of an advantage on such a course -- didn't see much shifting in the video (tho' of course they had far less to shift than we do today). Even a half mile paved section could be covered at 25 mph at 135 rpm in a 63 gear; would someone with a gear spread be able to make huge amounts of time over this on such a short flat? Not doubting, just asking. And I know nothing about CX except that it's done largely on dirt and that you need a huge kit for it. ( http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/10/news/what-to-bring-to-a-cycloc.. .) Courtesy of youknowwho: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2010/10/spending-power-whos-1.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation
There are many web videos about how to make a wallet out of tyvek. FedEx shipping bags being the most popular source, seein' as how they're free and all... On Oct 30, 6:38 pm, Peter Andrews beardedpe...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, you could always learn how to make a wallet out of duct tape... they last quite a while and tend to protect their contents from the perils of butt-sweat. And no mold. On Oct 30, 3:01 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 09:46 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: I've got the toe strap; can anyone supply the bills? Back in the old colonial days, when my father was stationed as a burra sahib/bwana in India, Nairobi and Karachi and traveled to points even sweatier and further without the law, he, being careful of his kit, would put his nice leather wallet in a small plastic bag -- forget if they had ziplocks back in the '70s, India got its independence from Britain in 1947. I'm confident they did not have ziplock bags in 1947. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy Commuter
Nice build, as always! Love the red stem spacers. You lose me at the brifters, though. I don't mind the brifting part - whatever floats your boat, shifting-wise - but I wish they could be silver. -Pete On Oct 30, 2:54 pm, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the latest Betty Foy Build for a customer in DC:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ Lisa has a longish commute (mostly along bike paths) and plans to be a year-round rider. The dynamo XT wheelset is from Peter White, as is the BM Cyo N Plus light. The Ultegra drivetrain is a good choice for her intended type of riding; the 9/10-speed Sugino Alpina crankset is definitely an improvement over the regular Sugino 500XD in terms of smoother shifting. As always, just let me know if you have any questions or comments. Enjoy your weekend, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
First caveat - I have not used the 700xanything Big Apples. Only the 26 inch version. Second, have used the Marathon Supremes in both 26 and 700 versions. Have the latter 700x40 on the Sam Hillborne. I find the Supremes a better climbing tire. My wife feels the Liteskin 26 inch Big Apple is a better tire than the Supreme. She is not as nuts as the rest of us, but has her own preference in tires. That being said, the Sam Hillborne next year will probably be set up with Paselas. The Supremes from time to time feel like they are filled with concrete. Can't figure it out. But the wheels just don't wanna roll. Eric Platt On Oct 30, 3:40 pm, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Patrick, who's to say you have to get both tires the same? Get one of each! While I thought I was kidding . come to think of it , why not? It's funny how we assume we need the same tire front and rear, but the two serve totally different functions and ride completely different. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
+1 on the Mara Sups being great climbers and smooth rollers, that occasionally (often often) feel like they are filled with lead (on a SH). andrew On Oct 30, 2010, at 6:07 PM, EricP wrote: First caveat - I have not used the 700xanything Big Apples. Only the 26 inch version. Second, have used the Marathon Supremes in both 26 and 700 versions. Have the latter 700x40 on the Sam Hillborne. I find the Supremes a better climbing tire. My wife feels the Liteskin 26 inch Big Apple is a better tire than the Supreme. She is not as nuts as the rest of us, but has her own preference in tires. That being said, the Sam Hillborne next year will probably be set up with Paselas. The Supremes from time to time feel like they are filled with concrete. Can't figure it out. But the wheels just don't wanna roll. Eric Platt On Oct 30, 3:40 pm, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Patrick, who's to say you have to get both tires the same? Get one of each! While I thought I was kidding . come to think of it , why not? It's funny how we assume we need the same tire front and rear, but the two serve totally different functions and ride completely different. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1950 rough stuff race
I think Rob mentioned the Platypus bottles. I have owned a few of them and use them backpacking every trip for around camp and longer waterless sections. I'll bring a 1L one for the ride in two weeks. I am going to ride the new-to-me Ram. Gotta pick up some fatter tires.. thinking about a 35 or 37mm Pasela. Has anyone tried to fit one a 37 on a Ram? ~Mike~ On Oct 30, 4:42 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: And I only have to bottle holders. I ride an inferior bike. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:29 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: The Platypus looks interesting, and that's like 1-1/2 big bottles. That 3rd bottle gets kinda grungy at times. Extra water can be handy for washing out scrapes too. dougP On Oct 29, 9:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I think Noel suggested bringing extra water along, and someone else (Mike?) said these work pretty good in a saddle bag: http://www.rei.com/product/797977 On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:01 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: There was at least one fixed gear that I noticed. The guy was pushing the bike thru some boggy looking stuff the pedals were turning. Of course, if he tossed it into the drink, got some mud in the FW, it may have started the day SS was now fixed! You're right; hard to know what the total course looked like from the film. Only the fun bits (water crossings, etc) would be interesting to film. David: What's a Platypus? My Atlantis has 3 cages I've never run out of water, even in Utah Arizona. We're riding in Orange County, not Africa or Australia. And the beauty is, if you conk out, it's all downhill (really, truly, no BS, cross my heart, etc.) back to the start. dougP On Oct 29, 8:47 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I just purchased a Platypus as word on the street is we'll need lots of water. As for the video, I noticed several derailer-less bikes. Whether they were fixed, SS or IGH, I don't know, but am guessing SS. You can try to guess what ratios they were running (if SS). And it depends on what kind of road sections they didn't show. I would guess they shot most of the film at the water crossings and barriers rather than the straight away roads. The guy doing the voiceover is pretty cool. Some 40 years after the fact, he remembers everyone's name, what they placed, what their day jobs were. Pretty cool guy! On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:14 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Patrick: Thanks for the links. I rarely check BSNYC but these are pretty funny. Fortunately, our little November 13 adventure in Silverado Cyn won't require anything like this level of complexity. No stoves, warm- up equipment or special skin treatments needed. I'd better take a cruise out there to make sure the appropriate post-ride liquids are available. dougP On Oct 29, 7:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: (in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields), Is this because of the type of course, or overall? Wouldn't a single 63 gear be quite competitive on a course like that shown in the video, with few fast flats and a lot of throwing, carrying and mud path grinding? I'm curious if a gear spread would be much of an advantage on such a course -- didn't see much shifting in the video (tho' of course they had far less to shift than we do today). Even a half mile paved section could be covered at 25 mph at 135 rpm in a 63 gear; would someone with a gear spread be able to make huge amounts of time over this on such a short flat? Not doubting, just asking. And I know nothing about CX except that it's done largely on dirt and that you need a huge kit for it. ( http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/10/news/what-to-bring-to-a-cycloc.. .) Courtesy of youknowwho: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2010/10/spending-power-whos-1.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling
Re: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
That's interesting. I rode the Marathon Extremes (discontinued by Riv I believe) on the Atlantis today, rode on pavement and climbed on tacky dirt, and they just felt great. I know these things are nonlinear, but I just thought I'd give you some data. -Jim W. p.s. I ate ribs and drank beer in the middle of the ride. Maybe that was the key factor. Still pumped about today's ride. Beautiful day in So. Cal. Totally unplanned, sorry I don't have photos. -Original Message- From: EricP ericpl...@aol.com The Supremes from time to time feel like they are filled with concrete. Can't figure it out. But the wheels just don't wanna roll. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy Commuter
@ Peter, Agreed. But alas, like many component groups, the silver is slowly fading away as a good option; the 6700 group only comes with black brifters. The next logical question then is: What to do about this? Hoard, or hope for a revival in silver components (like the new Campy Athena silver group)? Bryan On Oct 30, 8:08 pm, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: Nice build, as always! Love the red stem spacers. You lose me at the brifters, though. I don't mind the brifting part - whatever floats your boat, shifting-wise - but I wish they could be silver. -Pete On Oct 30, 2:54 pm, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the latest Betty Foy Build for a customer in DC:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ Lisa has a longish commute (mostly along bike paths) and plans to be a year-round rider. The dynamo XT wheelset is from Peter White, as is the BM Cyo N Plus light. The Ultegra drivetrain is a good choice for her intended type of riding; the 9/10-speed Sugino Alpina crankset is definitely an improvement over the regular Sugino 500XD in terms of smoother shifting. As always, just let me know if you have any questions or comments. Enjoy your weekend, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 1950 rough stuff race
on 10/29/10 12:17 PM, Patrick in VT at swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 2:25 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Second observation: gearing: this sort of course seems like a good candidate for a ss: say 60 to 65; I used to use 63 for allrounder dirt-cum-pavement. I don't see anyone twiddling and a sub 65 gear is low enough to get you through surprisingly deep muck (I used it on sand here in dry ABQ) yet high enough that you don't spin your eyes out on the rare flat-'n'-smooths. What do y'all think? for the die-hard cx ss'ers, any course is a good candidate for a single gear! 2:1 is a good starting point - I see lots of 39x18 or 34x17 out there (in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields), and that seems reasonable for most New England courses I race. CX is hard. SSCX is really hard - those who do it tend to rock. Depends a bit on the course. Long, steady descents or extended flat straight bits tend to favor a multi-geared. But, if you generally have a climbing course with sharp descents (where no one will be pedaling down) and lots of technical bits, then the ss folk can do pretty well. Mix in a bit of muck and weather and you are probably better off with a simple drivetrain. Back in '99, I had the distinct pleasure of watching Travis Brown ride to a ninth place finish in the elites race - while running a single speed setup. http://www.cyclofiend.com/CX99Mens.html - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Nitto Humble post and saddlesack xs. Been itching to buy the post and 'sack. What better time than now? Cheers! cm On Oct 30, 6:40 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Thanks for the reminder John...order placed. On Oct 29, 12:46 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: We've had a super slow week, and yesterday was the slowest day of all. Grant wrote this last night: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/303 Dave thought of this a little while ago: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/304 As Grant said, If you plan to buy something anyway and we have ithope to hear from you. Cheers, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
