Re: [RBW] Re: Bar Wrap
Since we're posting bar wraps, here's the latest revision on my Hilsen. I just went back to drops to fight the May winds, and did the wrap over the long weekend - plenty of time to let the shellac dry. I kept the diamonds more subdued this time around... http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5784772963/in/photostream Brian On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.netwrote: The shellac covered cloth is not nearly as comfy as the diamond weaved leather bar wrap. That was pretty thick leather and basically a double layer. Although since I've owned this frame my bars are not nearly as low as my previous bike so there is less weight on my hands. I find it just fine. I'm sure some people would not like the bumps caused by the style of the wrap. On May 31, 10:21 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Looks nice, Brian - even more decorative than the harlequin wrap. You should get lots of kudos from the argyle skirt wearing gals in town (personal experience...) How is the comfort so far in comparison with the leather wrap you had on it? I just ran bare bars for a few weeks getting my fit right, and almost convinced myself that I don't need the cork under cotton that I usually go with. Brian (the other) Seattle On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.net wrote: Changed up the bar wrap. Tried something I've been thinking about for a long time. http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5783217924/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5783217264/in/photostream/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: can one convert a 53 atlantis to a 650b?
Get the Cypres, Patrick - I just put them on my Hilsen and they are feathery. A noticeable difference from the Jack Brown Blues I had on there. They make my Hilsen feel like a lightweight hill-killing race bike! I bought the 30mm Cypres, and they go about 31.5mm on my Synergies. No flats yet, but I'm avoiding glass like the plague. I do ride them on a gravel stretch that's about 1/2 mile twice a day, and they do just fine holding on. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5784772285/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5784772285/in/photostreamBrian (Seattle) On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:17 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Note that rolling resistance can well be due to tire quality, tho' I've heard that bigger tires, all else equal -- and it' usualy ain't, roll better than smaller ones -- that's the fundamental reason for 29ers. But then of course, a 700c wheel will also roll better, conditions as stated, than a 650B. I must say that my 559 and 571-wheeled Riv roads roll better than any 700c bike I own but that is, I am sure, due to the higher quality -- more supple, mostly -- tires. But if I ever get 28 mm GB Cypreses or whatevertheyarecalled for the Herse, watchout. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:58 PM, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote: I did it with Tektro Oryx brakes and I found it rolls better than 559 wheels for me. My suggestion is to borrow a set of wheels to try first, buy your friend lunch and beer/wine, buy a pair of Oryx and try them out first before investing on a set of wheels. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Has anyone used trekking / butterfly bars on a Rivendell?
Trying to see if I can manage to get completely rid of my left shoulder/neck pain, I've decided to try installing Trekking bars on my Atlantis. Figuring out that I'm only going to get to do this once, I've ordered a Nitto B825AA Touring Bar (Trekking/Butterfly style) and a Modolo Yuma Trekking bar. I had ordered this one first, and then found out that Nitto had a version that someone in one of the bike forums recommended as being much better than the Modolo so I ordered one as well figuring out that the one I don't like I can always sell, and if I don't like them at all I can sell both. Reviews and online discussions show that a number of people have found the solution to their comfort/fit problems with these bars, and that they're very popular in Europe. Has anyone on this list tried them at all? While these bars arrive later this week, I put my Moustache bars on the Atlantis with the 8cm Dirt Drop stem to see how it would fit. I had only used them back on the Bombadil but they hurt my hands. The shorter top tube on the Atlantis puts them at a much nicer range, but after a couple of short rides with no tape (and no rear brake), I can't quite make up my mind if they're going to be more comfortable than the Noodles or not. They seemed very nice, and I liked the position with the stem at almost full rise. It seems to me, based on how I felt with the M-bars, that the Trekking bars will address the following concerns: - Lack of straight section where the brake levers are on the M-bars - Lack of angle on the straight sections of the M-bars that angles out instead of being straight back - Additional close horizontal section for fully upright riding at slow speeds. I'm thinking I'm going to set the brake levers on the Trekking bars just like they go on the M-bars instead of the usual setup on the rear (close to the body) straight sections and I ordered a set of Paul's bar-end shifter pods to explore where to put the shifters for optimal placement. I have several ideas in mind, but will have to do some playing around first to see if they make sense at all. Finally, since these bars are 25.4, I ordered a 10 and an 8cm Nitto Dirt Drop stems so I can fine tune the fit and avoid using the shims on the 26.0 Nitto Dirt Drop stem. I appreciate any feedback or suggestions regarding the best way to leverage these bars to see if I can finally take care of my neck! Thanks to all, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Brooks B 17 (Saddle lament)
Hi all, Sorry for the lengthy delay in my response; I just stayed away from the computer during the long weekend to fully relax. The saddle is as new, with just a few marks on the rails. I've just ridden it for about 30 miles total. I'm asking $105 + Shipping, which based on past experience via UPS ground from my office (I get a discount) should add another $10 or less. I'm traveling again tomorrow and won't be back until Sunday, so I won't be able to ship it until next Monday. If you're still interested, please e-mail me off-line. I've had a couple of requests, so I guess it'll go to the first solid offer. Thank you, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Hetres and SKS P45 fender clearence
It is going to be awfully tight. Safety issue needs to be put into consideration. For example, a debris could lodge between a tire and fender causing an abrupt halt to the wheel. I do not know how much these fenders will cover the tire, however you might see the sidewalls from the bird view thus eliminating the main function/purpose of using the fenders. Also, Hetres will stretch a tad over time. On May 31, 2011, at 7:28 PM, hobie wrote: Frank. Thanks for the responce. I think I'll buy a pair of the Hetres. I currently have the Schwalbe 650b marathons but want somthing plusher. On May 31, 7:22 pm, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: I have that exact set-up on my 62cm Saluki and all works as designed; no troubles or finicky-ness. On May 31, 2:57 pm, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all. I'm thinking of trying a pair of 650bx42cm Grand Bois Hetres. Has anyone tried the combination of Grand Bois Hetres 650bx42 with SKS P45 fenders on a 58cm Saluki? Is there enough tire clearence? The Riv site says the P45 fenders will work with the (Fatty Rumpkin 40- 41.5 or so) which is slightly smaller than the Hetres. Any help would be appreciated.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S72O - SFBay
If he made it to China Camp, he got a decent break in the weather. Tomorrow might not be so pretty. Joe Bernard On May 31, 4:40 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: I got rained on during my commute home today (Lodi to Stockton, in the central valley east of SF). Pretty mean wind out there, too.Hope your weather is better than mine! Bill On May 31, 11:09 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Thunderstorms predicted tomorrow. Not a good time to be on a bike. Joe Bernard Fairfield, CA. On May 31, 8:55 am, bicitourist ejro...@gmail.com wrote: Super excited today to be heading out on my first bike camping trip. Last day at my job of over 11 years. I start work next week and figured this was the best adventure in my short time off! The plan: Last call is at 2:00pm today, bike is packed and ready to go. Meet at Caltrains to catch the 3:44 to SF last stop. Ride to China Camp and spend the night. Ride back from China camp to Half moon bay; spend night 2 there. And then head back to SJ to make it in time to my son's kindergarten graduation. I'll post pics when we get back. -Eddie- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Hetres and SKS P45 fender clearence
50mm Berthoud Composite is another option with a few mm of additional clearaence, as seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/5337359747/. I think Peter White sells them -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SnFqV0wyMkRCN0FK. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Hetres and SKS P45 fender clearence
Here's a shot of the set-up, which I'll be riding on the Seattle to Portland ride again this year: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/3699447218/in/photostream In terms of safety, and per Sacha's comment, I've put a lot of miles on this set-up and can only speak to my experience, but it's not really all that tight. In terms of safety, the same consideration would apply for *any* gap between tire and fender, and one might make the case that a narrow / appropriate clearance could better prevent debris from wedging in the gap. The sidewalls are not at all visible from the cockpit, and the fenders work beautifully. On May 31, 10:16 pm, Sacha veloban...@gmail.com wrote: It is going to be awfully tight. Safety issue needs to be put into consideration. For example, a debris could lodge between a tire and fender causing an abrupt halt to the wheel. I do not know how much these fenders will cover the tire, however you might see the sidewalls from the bird view thus eliminating the main function/purpose of using the fenders. Also, Hetres will stretch a tad over time. On May 31, 2011, at 7:28 PM, hobie wrote: Frank. Thanks for the responce. I think I'll buy a pair of the Hetres. I currently have the Schwalbe 650b marathons but want somthing plusher. On May 31, 7:22 pm, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: I have that exact set-up on my 62cm Saluki and all works as designed; no troubles or finicky-ness. On May 31, 2:57 pm, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all. I'm thinking of trying a pair of 650bx42cm Grand Bois Hetres. Has anyone tried the combination of Grand Bois Hetres 650bx42 with SKS P45 fenders on a 58cm Saluki? Is there enough tire clearence? The Riv site says the P45 fenders will work with the (Fatty Rumpkin 40- 41.5 or so) which is slightly smaller than the Hetres. Any help would be appreciated.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: can one convert a 53 atlantis to a 650b?
Brian -- I hope to do so, eventually. Good to have another report indicating that they are a good choice. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Get the Cypres, Patrick - I just put them on my Hilsen and they are feathery. A noticeable difference from the Jack Brown Blues I had on there. They make my Hilsen feel like a lightweight hill-killing race bike! I bought the 30mm Cypres, and they go about 31.5mm on my Synergies. No flats yet, but I'm avoiding glass like the plague. I do ride them on a gravel stretch that's about 1/2 mile twice a day, and they do just fine holding on. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5784772285/in/photostream Brian (Seattle) On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:17 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Note that rolling resistance can well be due to tire quality, tho' I've heard that bigger tires, all else equal -- and it' usualy ain't, roll better than smaller ones -- that's the fundamental reason for 29ers. But then of course, a 700c wheel will also roll better, conditions as stated, than a 650B. I must say that my 559 and 571-wheeled Riv roads roll better than any 700c bike I own but that is, I am sure, due to the higher quality -- more supple, mostly -- tires. But if I ever get 28 mm GB Cypreses or whatevertheyarecalled for the Herse, watchout. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:58 PM, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote: I did it with Tektro Oryx brakes and I found it rolls better than 559 wheels for me. My suggestion is to borrow a set of wheels to try first, buy your friend lunch and beer/wine, buy a pair of Oryx and try them out first before investing on a set of wheels. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Has anyone used trekking / butterfly bars on a Rivendell?
I tried a set of them on my wife's Breezer, with odd results. Essentially, the near grips are VERY near, the far grips are VERY far, and the side grips are very widely spaced. She went back to the original MTB bars, and was happier. The stem length can be optimized for one of the hand posiitons, but then the others are very far out, with a large distance from the good position. She's now (2 years after going back to MTB bars) happiest with Georgena Terry road bars. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to see if I can manage to get completely rid of my left shoulder/neck pain, I've decided to try installing Trekking bars on my Atlantis. Figuring out that I'm only going to get to do this once, I've ordered a Nitto B825AA Touring Bar (Trekking/Butterfly style) and a Modolo Yuma Trekking bar. I had ordered this one first, and then found out that Nitto had a version that someone in one of the bike forums recommended as being much better than the Modolo so I ordered one as well figuring out that the one I don't like I can always sell, and if I don't like them at all I can sell both. Reviews and online discussions show that a number of people have found the solution to their comfort/fit problems with these bars, and that they're very popular in Europe. Has anyone on this list tried them at all? While these bars arrive later this week, I put my Moustache bars on the Atlantis with the 8cm Dirt Drop stem to see how it would fit. I had only used them back on the Bombadil but they hurt my hands. The shorter top tube on the Atlantis puts them at a much nicer range, but after a couple of short rides with no tape (and no rear brake), I can't quite make up my mind if they're going to be more comfortable than the Noodles or not. They seemed very nice, and I liked the position with the stem at almost full rise. It seems to me, based on how I felt with the M-bars, that the Trekking bars will address the following concerns: - Lack of straight section where the brake levers are on the M-bars - Lack of angle on the straight sections of the M-bars that angles out instead of being straight back - Additional close horizontal section for fully upright riding at slow speeds. I'm thinking I'm going to set the brake levers on the Trekking bars just like they go on the M-bars instead of the usual setup on the rear (close to the body) straight sections and I ordered a set of Paul's bar-end shifter pods to explore where to put the shifters for optimal placement. I have several ideas in mind, but will have to do some playing around first to see if they make sense at all. Finally, since these bars are 25.4, I ordered a 10 and an 8cm Nitto Dirt Drop stems so I can fine tune the fit and avoid using the shims on the 26.0 Nitto Dirt Drop stem. I appreciate any feedback or suggestions regarding the best way to leverage these bars to see if I can finally take care of my neck! Thanks to all, René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Has anyone used trekking / butterfly bars on a Rivendell?
On Wednesday, June 1, 2011, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Reviews and online discussions show that a number of people have found the solution to their comfort/fit problems with these bars, and that they're very popular in Europe. Has anyone on this list tried them at all? Not on my 'Riv' (actually a Heron) but I have the on the tandem but only because then only shifter (that I know of at least) for the Rohloff is the damned twist shifter. I found that I needed a much longer stem than when I was using drop bars, but if you're able to mount your shifter pods out on the reach portion that might take care of that issue - the twist shifter won't go out there. All in all I'm not a huge fan but they work OK for me as long as I keep the rides fairly short and casual. Anything longer than 40 miles and I start to really wish for me standard bars. I keep saying I'm going to try to work up a bar end shifter for the Rohloff and ditch the trekking bars for good. My wife, OTOH, loves them in the stoker's compartment. -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Junction-Breakwater Trail, Rehobeth Beach, DE
Just got back from a quick trip to Rehobeth Beach. I took my Bleriot for it's first off-pavement outing on the Junction-Breakwater Trail that runs from Rehobeth to Lewes, DE. It's a great trail and I enjoyed the ride thoroughly. Surface is mostly hard-packed dirt with light gravel on top. The Nifty-Swiftys on the bike did fine on this surface and I felt very confident. Here's the link to some photos: https://picasaweb.google.com/109191668701158452616/BleriotAtRehobethBeach?authkey=Gv1sRgCNaf6vqu9cW8NA# Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Craft Stem
That Craft Stem is some impressive bike jewelry! -JimD On May 30, 2011, at : May 30, 20111017PM, rperks wrote: it appears to be here, tempting me http://www.tokyofixedgear.com/products/120-Stems---Quill/3879-Nitto---Craft-Stem/ Rob - http://oceanaircycles.com/ On May 30, 9:35 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Anybody know if these are actually available for purchase? nitto-craft.jpg 500×900 pixelshttp://ruedatropical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/nitto-craft.jpg via Friendly for Facebook --Eric N Sent from the iPad 2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Hetres and SKS P45 fender clearence
I'd probably go with the SKS P-50's for better wrap/coverage over Hetres. I have that combo on my 52cm, 650b-wheeled Quickbeam and I wouldn't want to go narrower, personally. If anything, I'd switch to the newer P-55s. (assuming they're actually that little bit wider and not just re-badged P-50's-anyone know?) Steve On May 31, 5:57 pm, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all. I'm thinking of trying a pair of 650bx42cm Grand Bois Hetres. Has anyone tried the combination of Grand Bois Hetres 650bx42 with SKS P45 fenders on a 58cm Saluki? Is there enough tire clearence? The Riv site says the P45 fenders will work with the (Fatty Rumpkin 40- 41.5 or so) which is slightly smaller than the Hetres. Any help would be appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Brooks B 17 (Saddle lament)
Hey Lesli- assuming you still have the Toupe and are still interested in trading, what width and (ugh) 'colorway' is it? -Dan On May 27, 3:36 pm, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have a B-17 they'd like to sell or trade for a new Specialized Toupe? Experimenting with saddles for randonneuring. I'm a Selle An Atomica fan but I want to experiment with some different shapes in the next month. On longer rides, in 600k range, I'm finding it difficult to stay comfortable in this saddle (the usual soft tissue complaints). I've experimented with up/down, fore aft positions, etc. I'm a long distance cyclist and I'm beginning to think that my saddle issues will never quite be resolved giving the abnormality of my rides. I made a silly purchase of a Specialized Toupe with chromo rails thinking that synthetic padding might the answer. After one try, it's up for trade/sale to interested parties. What was I thinking?! I missed that hard back platform of a traditional leather saddle. Any comments on comfort level of the new Berthoud saddles? LL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Junction-Breakwater Trail, Rehobeth Beach, DE
on 6/1/11 4:07 AM, islaysteve at alkire...@verizon.net wrote: Just got back from a quick trip to Rehobeth Beach. I took my Bleriot for it's first off-pavement outing on the Junction-Breakwater Trail that runs from Rehobeth to Lewes, DE. It's a great trail and I enjoyed the ride thoroughly. Surface is mostly hard-packed dirt with light gravel on top. The Nifty-Swiftys on the bike did fine on this surface and I felt very confident. Here's the link to some photos: https://picasaweb.google.com/109191668701158452616/BleriotAtRehobethBeach?auth key=Gv1sRgCNaf6vqu9cW8NA# Looks like a fun ride. And it looks like you were able to outdistance that wheel-sucker, too! (or was it a wheel-snapper?) thanks for sharing those! - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Hetres and SKS P45 fender clearence
You might want to consider a pair of Berthoud 50's ... I know they're double the money at around $70.00 but they offer an excellent fit on a Saluki/54 (or a Bleriot/55) http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-144/Berthoud-650bx50-fenders-%26/Detail Also you'll be hard pressed to find a nicer guy to talk to on the phone than Mike Kone. On Jun 1, 1:16 am, Sacha veloban...@gmail.com wrote: It is going to be awfully tight. Safety issue needs to be put into consideration. For example, a debris could lodge between a tire and fender causing an abrupt halt to the wheel. I do not know how much these fenders will cover the tire, however you might see the sidewalls from the bird view thus eliminating the main function/purpose of using the fenders. Also, Hetres will stretch a tad over time. On May 31, 2011, at 7:28 PM, hobie wrote: Frank. Thanks for the responce. I think I'll buy a pair of the Hetres. I currently have the Schwalbe 650b marathons but want somthing plusher. On May 31, 7:22 pm, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: I have that exact set-up on my 62cm Saluki and all works as designed; no troubles or finicky-ness. On May 31, 2:57 pm, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all. I'm thinking of trying a pair of 650bx42cm Grand Bois Hetres. Has anyone tried the combination of Grand Bois Hetres 650bx42 with SKS P45 fenders on a 58cm Saluki? Is there enough tire clearence? The Riv site says the P45 fenders will work with the (Fatty Rumpkin 40- 41.5 or so) which is slightly smaller than the Hetres. Any help would be appreciated.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 650B Conversion Kit
Sorry to go off topic, but can you offer some comparison on your experience with Pari Motos and Hetres? On May 31, 6:56 pm, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I have a set of 650B wheels, with cassette, tires tubes, and Silver brand extra long reach side pull brakes for sell. This is a good set up to convert a suitable 700C bike to 650B. Cost $410, and I'll cover UPS ground to lower 48. Details; Rims are Velocity Synergy, spokes are DT double butted. Front wheel was hand built by Rich at Rivendell. Front hub is 105, rear is Campagnolo Centaur. Cassette is 9-speed 13-26. Tires are Pacenti Paris-Moto all black, plus a pair of Red 42 Hectre tires. Rim strips are cotton tape (Velox or equal) The wheel have maybe 1000 miles. The side walls are not worn, dented, or damaged. The hub bearings are great. The brakes are Silver brand with good pads, long reach. I've got some photos on my Flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/4602188789/in/set-7... http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/4310524716/in/set-7... Even though the photo's show the entire bike, only the brakes, and wheels are for sell at the $410. Cheers! James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: 8 speed bar end SRAM Grip Shifters
These are the old ones made for the ends of drop bars. The cable exits parallel to shifter, same as lever bar ends. They have been out of production for quite a while. These are NOT the same as the MTB units. Reply off-list if you happen to have these. I only need the right one. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bar Wrap
Nice. I see you have your braided steel cables back or were they ever missing? I found this yesterday - http://www.flickr.com/photos/crosscolin/4973667070/in/photostream/ I don't like bull horn bars but I sure do like the wrap. I wonder how long that twine would hold up though. I guess given enough shellac . . . On May 31, 11:05 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Since we're posting bar wraps, here's the latest revision on my Hilsen. I just went back to drops to fight the May winds, and did the wrap over the long weekend - plenty of time to let the shellac dry. I kept the diamonds more subdued this time around... http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/5784772963/in/photostream Brian On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.netwrote: The shellac covered cloth is not nearly as comfy as the diamond weaved leather bar wrap. That was pretty thick leather and basically a double layer. Although since I've owned this frame my bars are not nearly as low as my previous bike so there is less weight on my hands. I find it just fine. I'm sure some people would not like the bumps caused by the style of the wrap. On May 31, 10:21 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Looks nice, Brian - even more decorative than the harlequin wrap. You should get lots of kudos from the argyle skirt wearing gals in town (personal experience...) How is the comfort so far in comparison with the leather wrap you had on it? I just ran bare bars for a few weeks getting my fit right, and almost convinced myself that I don't need the cork under cotton that I usually go with. Brian (the other) Seattle On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.net wrote: Changed up the bar wrap. Tried something I've been thinking about for a long time. http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5783217924/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/5783217264/in/photostream/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Has anyone used trekking / butterfly bars on a Rivendell?
I also have them on my non-Riv, a 1984 Trek 620, which is my touring bike. I have had (and toured with) nearly everything on that bike: narrow drops, moustaches, albatrosses; I like the butterfly bars the best for the way I use this bike. Because it was an experiment, I got the cheap Nashbars, but they've worked fine. I have them very high (above the level of the seat) with a medium long stem; the brake levers and thumb shifters are on the front outside curve so that I can use them while holding on to the side straight portion, which tends to be my default position. The close horizontals are comfortable for occasional upright riding (as a relief position on tour) or when riding slowly. The close curves feel quite a lot like the curves on drop bars (another favorite position). But the straight portion on the sides puts me in perfect riding position for the long haul. I find I rarely use the front horizontals (which is where I originally had the brake levers) except in wind. I use this bike for commuting also, with lots of sidewalks, potholes, and stop and go, so I like the control and power the wide side grips give me. (My snow commuter has m-bars, and my Ram has 46 noodles.) On Jun 1, 2:28 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Craft Stem or Grand Bois
The Gran Bois stem is certainly quite nice looking. Its use is going to be fairly limited by many in the U.S., however, due to the lack of extension options (the only sizes are 60mm or 70mm). The stem is obviously aimed at the Japanese domestic market, not an export market (the average height of a Japanese man is 5' 5). Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On May 31, 1:44 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I think I like this Grand Bois stem better.http://ruedatropical.com/2011/05/grand-bois-fillet-brazed-quill-stem/ ~Mike On May 31, 12:17 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: I don't question the quality and craftmanship, but isn't this more then the lugged quill stem? On May 31, 3:11 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Whoo-HOO! Wretched excess! I'll take a Pearl. (I have, two on'em.) They are priddy. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: at $243 plus shipping I'd rather support a local builder and have one made. It is nice though.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Has anyone used trekking / butterfly bars on a Rivendell?
I have used the a bit too-- commuting, errands, and a few tours. I like them compared to flat bars but not compared to other options out there. To me they go up where they should go down and go down where I'd rather have them go up-- like an anti- Alba. The closest position felt like i was pushing a grocery cart, the far position felt like i was running with a stroller, and the outside position felt like I was steering a tractor. I like them more than that makes it sound. They are good utilitarian bars-- just not a favorite. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Brooks B 17 (Saddle lament)
Hey. Thanks to all who offered up a saddle. Quite a few of you seem to be harboring boxed B-17s for the apocalypse. I now have one coming my way. Dan--I still do have the toupe. I would sell for $75 shipped. Used once. Chro-mo rails. 143 width. Black. LL On Jun 1, 7:48 am, dan gee dmg...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Lesli- assuming you still have the Toupe and are still interested in trading, what width and (ugh) 'colorway' is it? -Dan On May 27, 3:36 pm, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have a B-17 they'd like to sell or trade for a new Specialized Toupe? Experimenting with saddles for randonneuring. I'm a Selle An Atomica fan but I want to experiment with some different shapes in the next month. On longer rides, in 600k range, I'm finding it difficult to stay comfortable in this saddle (the usual soft tissue complaints). I've experimented with up/down, fore aft positions, etc. I'm a long distance cyclist and I'm beginning to think that my saddle issues will never quite be resolved giving the abnormality of my rides. I made a silly purchase of a Specialized Toupe with chromo rails thinking that synthetic padding might the answer. After one try, it's up for trade/sale to interested parties. What was I thinking?! I missed that hard back platform of a traditional leather saddle. Any comments on comfort level of the new Berthoud saddles? LL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Has anyone used trekking / butterfly bars on a Rivendell?
Your description made laugh. I've been thinking about trying these bars for years, but you just convinced me to not try them. Rob Minneapolis On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:56 AM, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: ... The closest position felt like i was pushing a grocery cart, the far position felt like i was running with a stroller, and the outside position felt like I was steering a tractor. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Considering new pedals
About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Considering new pedals
I splurged and bought the white industry platform pedal and put the deep toe MKS leather toe clip on them and I think they are great. The GR9 is the same design as the White Industry but cheaper. Check out the Bruce Gordon webpage he has half clips that look interesting. I haven't tried WI pedals sans toeclip but I'm tempted. I wear a size 12 shoe. Bruce On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:48 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Considering new pedals
The White pedals are a little (well, actually, a lot) slippery without clips when wet. They are great pedals, though -- very comfortable. I really like the Bruce Gordon half clips with them. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Baker Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:53 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Considering new pedals I splurged and bought the white industry platform pedal and put the deep toe MKS leather toe clip on them and I think they are great. The GR9 is the same design as the White Industry but cheaper. Check out the Bruce Gordon webpage he has half clips that look interesting. I haven't tried WI pedals sans toeclip but I'm tempted. I wear a size 12 shoe. Bruce On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:48 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.commailto:mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals
maybe it's just me, but i find the GR9 platform as a little small, coming from speedplay's you might not feel this. ps. i ride in sidi touring shoes (yes the ones from RBW way back in the day), soccer shoes, or jack purcells On Jun 1, 3:55 pm, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: The White pedals are a little (well, actually, a lot) slippery without clips when wet. They are great pedals, though -- very comfortable. I really like the Bruce Gordon half clips with them. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Baker Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 3:53 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Considering new pedals I splurged and bought the white industry platform pedal and put the deep toe MKS leather toe clip on them and I think they are great. The GR9 is the same design as the White Industry but cheaper. Check out the Bruce Gordon webpage he has half clips that look interesting. I haven't tried WI pedals sans toeclip but I'm tempted. I wear a size 12 shoe. Bruce On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:48 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.commailto:mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2Buns ubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. --- --- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at(212) 735-3000begin_of_the_skype_highlighting(212) 735-3000 end_of_the_skype_highlightingand permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. === === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals
I tried the GR9's and they pretty nice if that's the style you like. I realized that I'm not fan of clips, so ended up going a different direction. Several, actually! I have an almost-new pair of GR-9s that I could sell you pretty cheap if you are interested. Also a set of VO Deep Half-clips with antique brown leathers, also virtually new. Let me know off line. -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZkQ5bjlTZ1hiLWNK. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Considering new pedals
I found the GR 9s very comfortable but with a bunion on my right foot I found that it would push the strap against crankarms that are straight up and down -- not an issue with modern, flared arms. I found the MKS touring pedals wider and without this problem. OTOH, with a wide Q crank, I found that the touring pedals made the Q too wide. Both are very nice with the right cranks. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:48 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Schmidt SON Edelux
Not to dissuade you (and hopefully my just saying it will make it not so :) ) but i waited months for a SON wheel and edelux, in the 6 months i waited i got a SON wheel (with 1 minute to spare)i paid $275 (decent for sure), and i've seen one edelux go by, and that was only at a $25 discount. these things are in high demand so it's tough going to get them at a big discount. Someday i'll afford an edelux... On Jun 1, 12:28 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: I have to agree with you on the son28 and edelux light. I have that combination on three bikes and love em. I purchased a super nova e3 triple and got rid of it for another edelux. Couldn't be happier here. Kelly -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike S Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:25 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: WTB: Schmidt SON Edelux Also, I have a Phil Wood front wheel that I'd be interested in trading for the SON. It's a 36H Phil Wood high-flange track hub with a Mavic A719 rim and DT Swiss spokes. It has about 2500 miles on it. On May 31, 11:08 pm, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: I know it... I could have had a killer deal on an N71 and would've paired it with a Lumotec...but alas, I want something that will ride me through the next Rapture. I've researched this list and Bicycle Lifestyle and have seen too many complaints about Shimano's unreliability when it comes to dynamos. I figure with the lower drag, better looks and likelihood of the SON lasting at least as long as two Shimanos, it's worth it. And I can always rationalize purchasing the finest bike finery! On May 31, 10:56 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: The Schmidt SON and Edelux together are indeed things of beauty... BUT... at half the price the Shimano DH-3N72 dynohub and the Busch Muller Lumotec IQ Cyo N Plus are formidable challengers... I've owned both, and I actually prefer the Shimano/BM combo. But hey, if you can find a Schmidt/Edelux combo used for a good price, go for it. BB On May 31, 10:10 pm, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All - I'm looking to electrify my Rivish Trek 520 Resurrectio and I'd like to do it with premium Schmidt stuff, and I'd prefer to save some cash with used parts. I am looking primarily for an Edelux headlight, and I'm also interested in a SON wheel. After having one bike with the full Schmidt setup for a while, it really does seem like a bike is just a mere plaything without a dynamo system, especially as I don't drive. Much thanks for any leads on this! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals
You've probably heard/read this before but you might want to just try riding un-attached. I gave up attached pedaling about seven years ago and once my leg muscles were retrained I found it liberating and I kept track of my times on familiar routes with no average time differences. In fact, some of my fastest were with my Teva sandals and BMX style platform pedals. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for fixed gear pedaling but for everything else I do. At first I had a few foot slips because my legs had become lazy being attached but I soon adapted and haven't been sorry since, not even once..plus I get to wear any shoes even my work boots when I'm riding places where I happen to want work boots on. I used to get those hot spots too which is why I quit using clip ins and even my old school slotted cleats and toe clips.too many foot problems. On Jun 1, 12:48 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Schmidt SON Edelux
FWIW, I just rode home on my Fargo with a $120 DH 72N or whateverthehellitis and $100 Cyo R blazing away in broad daylight and I could not feel any drag. I do have a SON20R and Edeluxe on the Riv commuter, but it's a style lxury (as the Yorkshireman said) and not really additional value-for-money. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Not to dissuade you (and hopefully my just saying it will make it not so :) ) but i waited months for a SON wheel and edelux, in the 6 months i waited i got a SON wheel (with 1 minute to spare)i paid $275 (decent for sure), and i've seen one edelux go by, and that was only at a $25 discount. these things are in high demand so it's tough going to get them at a big discount. Someday i'll afford an edelux... On Jun 1, 12:28 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: I have to agree with you on the son28 and edelux light. I have that combination on three bikes and love em. I purchased a super nova e3 triple and got rid of it for another edelux. Couldn't be happier here. Kelly -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike S Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:25 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: WTB: Schmidt SON Edelux Also, I have a Phil Wood front wheel that I'd be interested in trading for the SON. It's a 36H Phil Wood high-flange track hub with a Mavic A719 rim and DT Swiss spokes. It has about 2500 miles on it. On May 31, 11:08 pm, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: I know it... I could have had a killer deal on an N71 and would've paired it with a Lumotec...but alas, I want something that will ride me through the next Rapture. I've researched this list and Bicycle Lifestyle and have seen too many complaints about Shimano's unreliability when it comes to dynamos. I figure with the lower drag, better looks and likelihood of the SON lasting at least as long as two Shimanos, it's worth it. And I can always rationalize purchasing the finest bike finery! On May 31, 10:56 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: The Schmidt SON and Edelux together are indeed things of beauty... BUT... at half the price the Shimano DH-3N72 dynohub and the Busch Muller Lumotec IQ Cyo N Plus are formidable challengers... I've owned both, and I actually prefer the Shimano/BM combo. But hey, if you can find a Schmidt/Edelux combo used for a good price, go for it. BB On May 31, 10:10 pm, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All - I'm looking to electrify my Rivish Trek 520 Resurrectio and I'd like to do it with premium Schmidt stuff, and I'd prefer to save some cash with used parts. I am looking primarily for an Edelux headlight, and I'm also interested in a SON wheel. After having one bike with the full Schmidt setup for a while, it really does seem like a bike is just a mere plaything without a dynamo system, especially as I don't drive. Much thanks for any leads on this! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals
Thanks for sharing your experience Charlie. I tested out the Grip Kings over the weekend and plan to give them another try, but found the lack of contact disconcerting. At 66 I'm no longer too concerned about how fast I'm going, but there is a sense of blending man and machine that I get from toe clips that i don't get from totally clipless pedals. Plus, perhaps, after 25 years of being clipped in my pedaling style seems pretty dependent on some form of clips. I'm open to learning to cycle in sneakers and love riding in my keen commuters. michael On Jun 1, 6:56 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: You've probably heard/read this before but you might want to just try riding un-attached. I gave up attached pedaling about seven years ago and once my leg muscles were retrained I found it liberating and I kept track of my times on familiar routes with no average time differences. In fact, some of my fastest were with my Teva sandals and BMX style platform pedals. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for fixed gear pedaling but for everything else I do. At first I had a few foot slips because my legs had become lazy being attached but I soon adapted and haven't been sorry since, not even once..plus I get to wear any shoes even my work boots when I'm riding places where I happen to want work boots on. I used to get those hot spots too which is why I quit using clip ins and even my old school slotted cleats and toe clips.too many foot problems. On Jun 1, 12:48 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals
I recently bought my second set of Shimano PD MX 30 flat pedals because i was tired of swapping them from bike to bike. One set is on my mountain bike that I ride on all kinds of terrain and the new set is on my Rambouillet. I've used them with my Quickbeam too though not fixed. I haven't done any comparisons with clipped in performance but wouldn't be surprised to find the same as Charlie did. I have also ridden them with sandals and usually use an approach shoe. I never notice any inefficiency or poor contact and that includes on rough single track and a long hard into the wind dirt road push today. Tim On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:18 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sharing your experience Charlie. I tested out the Grip Kings over the weekend and plan to give them another try, but found the lack of contact disconcerting. At 66 I'm no longer too concerned about how fast I'm going, but there is a sense of blending man and machine that I get from toe clips that i don't get from totally clipless pedals. Plus, perhaps, after 25 years of being clipped in my pedaling style seems pretty dependent on some form of clips. I'm open to learning to cycle in sneakers and love riding in my keen commuters. michael On Jun 1, 6:56 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: You've probably heard/read this before but you might want to just try riding un-attached. I gave up attached pedaling about seven years ago and once my leg muscles were retrained I found it liberating and I kept track of my times on familiar routes with no average time differences. In fact, some of my fastest were with my Teva sandals and BMX style platform pedals. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for fixed gear pedaling but for everything else I do. At first I had a few foot slips because my legs had become lazy being attached but I soon adapted and haven't been sorry since, not even once..plus I get to wear any shoes even my work boots when I'm riding places where I happen to want work boots on. I used to get those hot spots too which is why I quit using clip ins and even my old school slotted cleats and toe clips.too many foot problems. On Jun 1, 12:48 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Considering new pedals
I am in my 6th decade as well, and I have tried just about every pedal put there. I have found the MKS touring to be the best all-arounder for me. I've used the GripKings, but did not find them to be all that grippy. In fact, in wetness, they slipKings, not gripkings! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 1, 2011, at 4:18 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sharing your experience Charlie. I tested out the Grip Kings over the weekend and plan to give them another try, but found the lack of contact disconcerting. At 66 I'm no longer too concerned about how fast I'm going, but there is a sense of blending man and machine that I get from toe clips that i don't get from totally clipless pedals. Plus, perhaps, after 25 years of being clipped in my pedaling style seems pretty dependent on some form of clips. I'm open to learning to cycle in sneakers and love riding in my keen commuters. michael On Jun 1, 6:56 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: You've probably heard/read this before but you might want to just try riding un-attached. I gave up attached pedaling about seven years ago and once my leg muscles were retrained I found it liberating and I kept track of my times on familiar routes with no average time differences. In fact, some of my fastest were with my Teva sandals and BMX style platform pedals. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for fixed gear pedaling but for everything else I do. At first I had a few foot slips because my legs had become lazy being attached but I soon adapted and haven't been sorry since, not even once..plus I get to wear any shoes even my work boots when I'm riding places where I happen to want work boots on. I used to get those hot spots too which is why I quit using clip ins and even my old school slotted cleats and toe clips.too many foot problems. On Jun 1, 12:48 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals
I think you have to drill and tap the pins to them for the ultimate pedal. My own BMX style pedals Crank Bros. etc. seem to work fine with excellent traction and the wide contact area for low psi, no hot spot pedaling. I had the touring pedals for several hundreds of miles and love the retro look but found them to slip in the wet too much. My favorite pedal actually is an inexpensive MTB pedal with the tooth like cage around the perimeter. Somewhat crude and some fear the dreaded calf scape but I've not found them to be a problem ever. I get good traction and can dismount in a flash plus I've spun up to about 130 rpm with them on my single speed. My climate/terrain however is predominately wet and hilly so... On Jun 1, 4:35 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I am in my 6th decade as well, and I have tried just about every pedal put there. I have found the MKS touring to be the best all-arounder for me. I've used the GripKings, but did not find them to be all that grippy. In fact, in wetness, they slipKings, not gripkings! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 1, 2011, at 4:18 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sharing your experience Charlie. I tested out the Grip Kings over the weekend and plan to give them another try, but found the lack of contact disconcerting. At 66 I'm no longer too concerned about how fast I'm going, but there is a sense of blending man and machine that I get from toe clips that i don't get from totally clipless pedals. Plus, perhaps, after 25 years of being clipped in my pedaling style seems pretty dependent on some form of clips. I'm open to learning to cycle in sneakers and love riding in my keen commuters. michael On Jun 1, 6:56 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: You've probably heard/read this before but you might want to just try riding un-attached. I gave up attached pedaling about seven years ago and once my leg muscles were retrained I found it liberating and I kept track of my times on familiar routes with no average time differences. In fact, some of my fastest were with my Teva sandals and BMX style platform pedals. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for fixed gear pedaling but for everything else I do. At first I had a few foot slips because my legs had become lazy being attached but I soon adapted and haven't been sorry since, not even once..plus I get to wear any shoes even my work boots when I'm riding places where I happen to want work boots on. I used to get those hot spots too which is why I quit using clip ins and even my old school slotted cleats and toe clips.too many foot problems. On Jun 1, 12:48 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals
I have a set of the classic Marcel Berthet Model 23 Lyotard pedals installed on my Paramount P-15. I obtained these pedals years ago while foraging in the parts bins at a prototypical Schwinn bicycle dealer/cum mower repair shop. Sheldon Brown preferred these pedals to any other until he switched to the SPD clipless type pedals. They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and the White Industry Urban Platform pedals are an example. Their design is basically a CNC and sealed bearing derivative of the classic Berthet pedals. I've used these pedals for a number of years, the pedal bearings appear to be quite smooth and the pedals have served me well. Berthet pedals appear on eBay quite frequently, often NOS and aren't especially expensive. Here's a link to some photos I've taken of these pedals on my bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964304@N05/sets/72157626864298522/ Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 1, 12:48 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Brooks B 17 (Saddle lament)
That's quite a deal (and Toupes are great saddles, and black is a nice color)...but I have too many 'spare' saddles at this point to justify taking in another one, sadly...unless there's something else you're after as a trade! Thanks... -Dan On Jun 1, 1:48 pm, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey. Thanks to all who offered up a saddle. Quite a few of you seem to be harboring boxed B-17s for the apocalypse. I now have one coming my way. Dan--I still do have the toupe. I would sell for $75 shipped. Used once. Chro-mo rails. 143 width. Black. LL On Jun 1, 7:48 am, dan gee dmg...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Lesli- assuming you still have the Toupe and are still interested in trading, what width and (ugh) 'colorway' is it? -Dan On May 27, 3:36 pm, Lesli lesli.lar...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have a B-17 they'd like to sell or trade for a new Specialized Toupe? Experimenting with saddles for randonneuring. I'm a Selle An Atomica fan but I want to experiment with some different shapes in the next month. On longer rides, in 600k range, I'm finding it difficult to stay comfortable in this saddle (the usual soft tissue complaints). I've experimented with up/down, fore aft positions, etc. I'm a long distance cyclist and I'm beginning to think that my saddle issues will never quite be resolved giving the abnormality of my rides. I made a silly purchase of a Specialized Toupe with chromo rails thinking that synthetic padding might the answer. After one try, it's up for trade/sale to interested parties. What was I thinking?! I missed that hard back platform of a traditional leather saddle. Any comments on comfort level of the new Berthoud saddles? LL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals
I like the MKS touring pedal with deep toe clips, straps, and the MKS Spin-2 pedal flip. You really need the flip to make the entry easy. The entry/exit are very easy if you're wearing shoes with a fairly smooth sole. The G 9 is not as comfortable or secure unless you use toe clips and straps - then why bother? Get the touring pedals. I discontinued using SPD pedals for much the same reason that you are confronting. On Jun 1, 12:48 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals
i pedaled in clips for ten years or so, but was always fixed riding. when i made the move to geared bike i decided to try the grip king, cause i wear a variety of shoes and they seamed appealing. the grip king didn't seem so grippy to me, and on a lark i bought a set of super cheap plastic bmx platform pedals . i love them, and now have them on all of my bikes, though if i were to ride fixed again, i would use clips or grip kings. On Jun 1, 9:45 pm, SISDDWG dgen...@gmail.com wrote: I like the MKS touring pedal with deep toe clips, straps, and the MKS Spin-2 pedal flip. You really need the flip to make the entry easy. The entry/exit are very easy if you're wearing shoes with a fairly smooth sole. The G 9 is not as comfortable or secure unless you use toe clips and straps - then why bother? Get the touring pedals. I discontinued using SPD pedals for much the same reason that you are confronting. On Jun 1, 12:48 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Schmidt SON Edelux
Mike, My downstairs neighbor pointed me to this group and your request. He knew I had a surplus SON hub and Edelux... I have a new in the box SON 28 32 hole in silver and a new in the bag (that seems to be how they come...) black Edelux. I took the Edelux out of the bag and held the wire ends agains the contacts of a spinning Shimano dyno just to test it, but it has not been mounted. They are both very, very pretty things and I had planned to use them for a project, but have finally come to my senses about my budget :) Please feel free to contact me directly if you're interested at mitchelljonat...@gmail.com Thanks, Jonathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UUxoRlFuZWVSajRK. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Schmidt SON Edelux
I totally get the argument for a $300-350 dynamo system (N72 DL) versus the $700 whiz-bang Schmidt luxury setup. If I were rational (or had car expenses bleeding me), I'd probably be wise to go with the thrifty route. However, I see myself riding bikes 100-200 miles/wk for until I drop dead, and I do hope to eventually do some serious touring, and the Schmidt just strikes me as 10x more care-free as it's 1/2 price counterpart. I think I'm going to just pony up the dough for a fresh SON wheel from Rich @ Riv and an Edulux from PJW. German machining standards beat Singapore everytime. On Jun 1, 7:05 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I just rode home on my Fargo with a $120 DH 72N or whateverthehellitis and $100 Cyo R blazing away in broad daylight and I could not feel any drag. I do have a SON20R and Edeluxe on the Riv commuter, but it's a style lxury (as the Yorkshireman said) and not really additional value-for-money. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Not to dissuade you (and hopefully my just saying it will make it not so :) ) but i waited months for a SON wheel and edelux, in the 6 months i waited i got a SON wheel (with 1 minute to spare)i paid $275 (decent for sure), and i've seen one edelux go by, and that was only at a $25 discount. these things are in high demand so it's tough going to get them at a big discount. Someday i'll afford an edelux... On Jun 1, 12:28 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: I have to agree with you on the son28 and edelux light. I have that combination on three bikes and love em. I purchased a super nova e3 triple and got rid of it for another edelux. Couldn't be happier here. Kelly -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike S Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:25 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: WTB: Schmidt SON Edelux Also, I have a Phil Wood front wheel that I'd be interested in trading for the SON. It's a 36H Phil Wood high-flange track hub with a Mavic A719 rim and DT Swiss spokes. It has about 2500 miles on it. On May 31, 11:08 pm, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: I know it... I could have had a killer deal on an N71 and would've paired it with a Lumotec...but alas, I want something that will ride me through the next Rapture. I've researched this list and Bicycle Lifestyle and have seen too many complaints about Shimano's unreliability when it comes to dynamos. I figure with the lower drag, better looks and likelihood of the SON lasting at least as long as two Shimanos, it's worth it. And I can always rationalize purchasing the finest bike finery! On May 31, 10:56 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: The Schmidt SON and Edelux together are indeed things of beauty... BUT... at half the price the Shimano DH-3N72 dynohub and the Busch Muller Lumotec IQ Cyo N Plus are formidable challengers... I've owned both, and I actually prefer the Shimano/BM combo. But hey, if you can find a Schmidt/Edelux combo used for a good price, go for it. BB On May 31, 10:10 pm, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All - I'm looking to electrify my Rivish Trek 520 Resurrectio and I'd like to do it with premium Schmidt stuff, and I'd prefer to save some cash with used parts. I am looking primarily for an Edelux headlight, and I'm also interested in a SON wheel. After having one bike with the full Schmidt setup for a while, it really does seem like a bike is just a mere plaything without a dynamo system, especially as I don't drive. Much thanks for any leads on this! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email
[RBW] Re: FS: Oddball very cheap lugged steel bike for one of you super tall folks
I've gotten a number of nibbles, but nobody tall enough or generous enough to give money to an Elementary Public School. The 27 bike is still available. On May 27, 1:56 pm, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: It's all good. Good luck finding a tall but not too tall guy =) Stephen On May 26, 8:44 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: 7'0 might be too tall. I was thinking somebody 6'6 to 6'9. The standover is 37 (94cm) On May 26, 8:05 pm, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: My brother in law might be interested. He is 7'0. Think he might be tall enough, or will the bike be too small for him? Stephen On May 26, 5:02 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: This bike made it through the Harding Bike Sale. We had a few who wanted it but were not tall enough for it. Let me know if you are tall enough for a 69cm lugged steel frame. $80 is still the price, which goes to the Harding Elementary School PTA. Photos on my flickr:http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626644105631/ On May 20, 12:50 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: My kids go to Harding Elementary School in El Cerrito. I'm a member of the Dad's Club, an offshoot of the PTA that is more about getting stuff done than it is about having meetings. This weekend is our first annual bike sale. We took donation bikes from the community, fixed up the bikes and are now selling them back to the community. I wanted to broadcast to the group three items: 1. If you have a bike you want to get rid of, don't want to sell it, and live in the bay area, let me know, and I'll take your donation and give you a tax deduction receipt 2. If you need a cheap 16 wheel bike for a kid in your life, let me know. We got a lot of those. 3. If you are SUPER tall and want abeater, we got a 27 frame Fuji Valite that might be hard to sell this weekend. Seriously, its a 69cm frame size, 27 inches. The derailers were both toast, so I set it up with straight bars and a Quickbeam like double. There are two gears that work with the horizontal dropouts: a small ring--big cog climbing gear and a big ring--small cog cruising gear. We'll probably hang a $80 price tag on it. Let me know if you want a super tallbeater. It is totally ready to set up as a geared bike again. If it was my size I'd use it to build a retro-direct like in the Riv video. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Considering new pedals
Grip King's all the way baby! Size 13-14 here and I can't imagine a pedal more comfortable than this. A few cap screws on the edges solve the 'slippery when wet' problem. The dust caps are lame, but everything else about them is splendiforous. Tree Fort Bikes has them on sale for $38 + s/h (under the name 'Lambda'). On Jun 1, 10:56 pm, jamison brosseau jamison.bross...@gmail.com wrote: i pedaled in clips for ten years or so, but was always fixed riding. when i made the move to geared bike i decided to try the grip king, cause i wear a variety of shoes and they seamed appealing. the grip king didn't seem so grippy to me, and on a lark i bought a set of super cheap plastic bmx platform pedals . i love them, and now have them on all of my bikes, though if i were to ride fixed again, i would use clips or grip kings. On Jun 1, 9:45 pm, SISDDWG dgen...@gmail.com wrote: I like the MKS touring pedal with deep toe clips, straps, and the MKS Spin-2 pedal flip. You really need the flip to make the entry easy. The entry/exit are very easy if you're wearing shoes with a fairly smooth sole. The G 9 is not as comfortable or secure unless you use toe clips and straps - then why bother? Get the touring pedals. I discontinued using SPD pedals for much the same reason that you are confronting. On Jun 1, 12:48 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: About a decade ago I discovered Speedplay Frog Pedals and fell in love with them. I have recommended them to many people and everybody who wanted an easy on and easy on the knees pedal loved them. Gradually all my bikes got them. But now I am developing a cronic hot spot on the ball of my foot and suspect that always using the same pedal might be a contributor, so have decided to go for some variety. I have an old pair of useable Campy rat traps but like the idea of the wider MKS body on their touring pedal But I see they also make a platform pedal, the GR 9. I will probably ride these with sneakers or Keen Sandals, and large toe clips. I have a large, size 13, foot. Has anyone used both of these? What was your experience? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
