[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
I don't know how you ride a Rivendell with that particular group of folks, but I enjoyed this immensely. ;-) Joe I'm slow because I pedal that way Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VvSpowXMGXYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first and only topic of discussion is weight. My guess is there isn't much else to discuss about a new racing bike! Basic design, materials components are all so tightly spec'd that a customer has to know exactly what they want to get anything different. A friend recently bought a MCRB and insisted on changes. She's an experienced rider spec'd a triple, wide range cassette and flat bars. The shop built it up her way but it took some discussion. She didn't buy the line about it's so light you won't need lower gears. Funny thing is shop guys argue against the complexity of a triple and in the next breadth are touting the wonders of the 10 speed. On the other hand, we can wax poetic about racks, bags, luggage, lights, fenders, tires, etc., because We Have Choices! Cantis or V- brakes? 28mm or 50mm tires? Nitto or Tubus? Grant said something to the effect that a frame is just a place to install parts. So far, I haven't stopped fiddling with my Atlantis. dougP On Dec 28, 11:11 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I love riding with my bike club, really I do, and they're wonderful people and great riding companions, but can I just rant here, among like-people, for just a minute? I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first and only topic of discussion is weight. WEIGHT IS NOT THE ONLY CRITERION WHEN PICKING BIKE FRAMES AND BIKE PARTS. Thank you. I'll lower my voice now. I was very good today on my clubs bike ride, 29 miles, 3900 feet of elevation, lots of sections in the high teens in grade. I kept my mouth shut, mostly, did not swear, and did not mention that I thought my companions' bikes were ridiculously overgeared for what they were trying to do with them. I did not say... ...No, a compact double is not significantly lighter than a triple, and if you can't climb that hill without weaving back and forth and getting in my way, not to mention dangerously cutting across the center line, you should put a triple on your bike. ...You can't notice a two pound difference in weight. You can't, unless you can tell me with a straight face that you climb significantly faster when your water bottles are empty. ...If you weigh 98 pounds, stiffness and compliance in a bike are irrelevant for you. Also, if you weigh 98 pounds, you're not climbing faster than me (when you do) because your *bike* is lighter than my *bike*. I could ride a weightless bike, and I'd still weigh more than you and your bike put together. Yawn. As I said, I love riding with my club. But jeez, there's more to bikes than how much they weigh. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Growing my moustache (bars)
Actually, I take that back... my expander was a bit different than that... I remember now that I used some of those threaded table leg inserts for allowing you to put adjustable feet on the bottom of table legs. They have sharp spikes that poked into the rubber plug to keep them from rotating while I was tightening or loosening. I'm looking for pictures, but they're in a deep dusty corner of my website from years ago... On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Are they merely friction fit? I don't see any expander mechanism. In the past I've created expanders by using a rubber plug with a hole through the center and a large washer on the other side. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I miss the bar-ends on my Quickbeam, where I'm used to gripping and resting my hands on the other bikes. So I made some plugs out of aluminum, to give back the extra length that you get with bar-end shifters. They match the external diameter of the bars (24.0) and have a very snug hand fit inside. These aren't done - I need to hollow them out, and I haven't decided whether just to use strong Loctite, or to rig a screw cone internal stopper. I figured out flikker: http://www.flickr.com/photos/71141757@N02/6566387189/in/photostream But still prefer SmugMug: diesel.smugmug.com/Bici/M-Bar-plugs/ Once I get them attached, I'll finish up the rest of the cockpit (stem, tape, brake cable routing, VO bell mount). But for now, they stay in, and they ride great! - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Recent interaction to add to the rant: I joined a local club group for a 'Christmas lights' ride a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday evening. The route involved part of hilly Arlington County (but not the truly devilish hilly sections of the county). A friend of mine invited me, he wanted me to meet 'Bunny', a woman he described as 70 and doing adventurous rides with her group of friends. So Bunny and I met, and being close to the same age, we bonded quickly. But I was on the Bleriot and she was on a Specialized carbon fiber, compact double bike - and struggling on the hills. She asked me why I could so easily go up the hills (well, I do ride a LOT and usually on hilly terrain). I said, well, you might do better with more gears. She replied, I know, I shouldn't have listened to the guy in the bike shop who sold me this bike and told me it had all the gears I would ever need. THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE AT BIKE SHOPS MAKES ME CRAZY!Ok, that's the end of my rant, and by the way, I said nothing further to her about bikes. We just chatted about other stuff for the rest of the ride. Plus, she didn't show up for the next Christmas lights ride the following week, which did include some of the steeper Arlington hills. Sad. I've learned to try and keep my gear/weight thoughts to myself (try, operative word).JoanPS - I invited Bunny to join me on a ride I'm leading in a moderately hilly location for another local club mid-January and promised that she wouldn't be dropped. So maybe I can help her along in her biking career. On 12/29/11, Ray Shiner.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:Like most on this forum, I agree with all the comments, and applaud Anne for spot-on comments. That said, the undeniable fact remains that many more riders pass me on CF bikes then I pass on same. From: opa...@gmail.com opa...@gmail.comTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSent: Thu, December 29, 2011 7:19:22 AMSubject: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?Thank you, thank you, thank you! Nearly everyday, a coworker, who rides a carbon fiber bike, comes in my office, lifts up my Atlantis by the top tube and exclaims: My god that's heavy. I've run out of things to say to him in reply so I may forward your post instead.As a side note, since I've put my massive (his words) 50mm Schwalbe Big Apples on the Atlantis a few weeks ago, I swear the bike is actually quieter, nearly silent. I never realized how loud tires can be...or maybe I just had some bad ones before?Happy New Year!Robert Opalko-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zkSLEWLhZkoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Maybe it's just me, and I mean no offense, but all this talk of older women climbing hills on over-geared bikes gives me the willies. I'd think the knees wouldn't remotely stand for that sort of abuse. -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ide_4awLzZ8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first and only topic of discussion is weight. Whenever someone asks me how much does it weigh at a stoplight when I'm riding the Protovelo, I say 17 lbs. Its a good way to end that conversation. On long rides when I'm trying to keep a good pace, little things like weight matter - but not as much as comfort. I actually think design has more to do with speed than anything else bike-related (rider makes the difference!). Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Dec 29, 10:44 am, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first and only topic of discussion is weight. My guess is there isn't much else to discuss about a new racing bike! Basic design, materials components are all so tightly spec'd that a customer has to know exactly what they want to get anything different. A friend recently bought a MCRB and insisted on changes. She's an experienced rider spec'd a triple, wide range cassette and flat bars. The shop built it up her way but it took some discussion. She didn't buy the line about it's so light you won't need lower gears. Funny thing is shop guys argue against the complexity of a triple and in the next breadth are touting the wonders of the 10 speed. On the other hand, we can wax poetic about racks, bags, luggage, lights, fenders, tires, etc., because We Have Choices! Cantis or V- brakes? 28mm or 50mm tires? Nitto or Tubus? Grant said something to the effect that a frame is just a place to install parts. So far, I haven't stopped fiddling with my Atlantis. dougP On Dec 28, 11:11 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I love riding with my bike club, really I do, and they're wonderful people and great riding companions, but can I just rant here, among like-people, for just a minute? I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first and only topic of discussion is weight. WEIGHT IS NOT THE ONLY CRITERION WHEN PICKING BIKE FRAMES AND BIKE PARTS. Thank you. I'll lower my voice now. I was very good today on my clubs bike ride, 29 miles, 3900 feet of elevation, lots of sections in the high teens in grade. I kept my mouth shut, mostly, did not swear, and did not mention that I thought my companions' bikes were ridiculously overgeared for what they were trying to do with them. I did not say... ...No, a compact double is not significantly lighter than a triple, and if you can't climb that hill without weaving back and forth and getting in my way, not to mention dangerously cutting across the center line, you should put a triple on your bike. ...You can't notice a two pound difference in weight. You can't, unless you can tell me with a straight face that you climb significantly faster when your water bottles are empty. ...If you weigh 98 pounds, stiffness and compliance in a bike are irrelevant for you. Also, if you weigh 98 pounds, you're not climbing faster than me (when you do) because your *bike* is lighter than my *bike*. I could ride a weightless bike, and I'd still weigh more than you and your bike put together. Yawn. As I said, I love riding with my club. But jeez, there's more to bikes than how much they weigh. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?
Go for it Mike. On Thursday, December 29, 2011, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: Anne Paulson for President --Beth in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
(Forgive me typing one-handed, a sleeping 3-wk-old grandaughter is in one arm); A) there are 3 other bicycle-folks at work in my office; they're 'cyclists', on CF bikes, worrying over grams whereas, I'm the one w/ a fendered steel Ram they can't figure why I'd want steel bike w/ fat tires (28s or 32s) (but are amazed that its not as heavy as they expected) B) when my son and I rode the last Burnsville Metric, I think there was one other steel bike there, and I know I was the only one w/ fenders I was definitely the 'one of these things is not like the others' guy... and enjoyed it! (All the weight needs to be lost off of me, not my bike!) -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ew1lIEQsaO0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?
I do enjoy riding with others, but if you and your companions are not on the same wavelength it can suck. Let em ride 29 miles like (insert fast cyclist here), I'd go ride 120 miles like Jan or 60 miles like Grant. Some people know how to enjoy being in the saddle longer than others. Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 23:11:42 -0800 Subject: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute? From: anne.paul...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I love riding with my bike club, really I do, and they're wonderful people and great riding companions, but can I just rant here, among like-people, for just a minute? I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first and only topic of discussion is weight. WEIGHT IS NOT THE ONLY CRITERION WHEN PICKING BIKE FRAMES AND BIKE PARTS. Thank you. I'll lower my voice now. I was very good today on my clubs bike ride, 29 miles, 3900 feet of elevation, lots of sections in the high teens in grade. I kept my mouth shut, mostly, did not swear, and did not mention that I thought my companions' bikes were ridiculously overgeared for what they were trying to do with them. I did not say... ...No, a compact double is not significantly lighter than a triple, and if you can't climb that hill without weaving back and forth and getting in my way, not to mention dangerously cutting across the center line, you should put a triple on your bike. ...You can't notice a two pound difference in weight. You can't, unless you can tell me with a straight face that you climb significantly faster when your water bottles are empty. ...If you weigh 98 pounds, stiffness and compliance in a bike are irrelevant for you. Also, if you weigh 98 pounds, you're not climbing faster than me (when you do) because your *bike* is lighter than my *bike*. I could ride a weightless bike, and I'd still weigh more than you and your bike put together. Yawn. As I said, I love riding with my club. But jeez, there's more to bikes than how much they weigh. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Well, while I agree that weight obsession is silly (at least, I am largely over it now) and conventional racer gearing is also silly for most mortals, I would not discount weight and compact doubles altogether. I had a very nice 2X9 mountain bike that had a 20 low -- no reason compact doubles can't have very low gears. And, again, it is a joy to push a bike 10 to 15 lb lighter than my heaviest vehicles up a hill in a highish gear. Chacun/e a son/sa gout/e. On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote: Recent interaction to add to the rant: I joined a local club group for a 'Christmas lights' ride a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday evening. The route involved part of hilly Arlington County (but not the truly devilish hilly sections of the county). A friend of mine invited me, he wanted me to meet 'Bunny', a woman he described as 70 and doing adventurous rides with her group of friends. So Bunny and I met, and being close to the same age, we bonded quickly. But I was on the Bleriot and she was on a Specialized carbon fiber, compact double bike - and struggling on the hills. She asked me why I could so easily go up the hills (well, I do ride a LOT and usually on hilly terrain). I said, well, you might do better with more gears. She replied, I know, I shouldn't have listened to the guy in the bike shop who sold me this bike and told me it had all the gears I would ever need. THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE AT BIKE SHOPS MAKES ME CRAZY! That's ridiculous. The best guess for a crank for a 70-year-old woman riding in an area with hills is a triple, with very low gears. Isn't it usually possible to install a triple on these bikes with stupid compact doubles? I would have suggested that the woman get her bike changed over. If one is in one's 70s, one shouldn't be missing out on good riding-- when we start getting on in years, we need to take advantage of all the riding we can squeeze in. One of the people I was ranting about is the 98-pound woman, who is in her 60s and a strong climber. She has a compact double on her bike, and she assured me that a triple would be too heavy. And yet-- I was stronger up some of the *very steep!!!* hills, she was stronger on one long *steep* hill, though she ended up zigzagging. But then, at the end, there was one more steep hill. And, having not had to kill myself in a too-high gear on all the other hills, I rode up it and she skipped it. People should ride the bikes they want, but it seems to me that some of these riders have chosen bikes that are keeping them from doing riding that they would enjoy on a different bike. And the other thing about these light bikes that annoys me is, OK, you will ride faster up hills on a lighter bike, all other things being equal. That is perfectly true, and in my club we do a lot of hills. But... this is only a positional good. That is, if everybody buys a lighter bike, then everybody will be just that little bit faster, but nobody is any better off. That is, Ted can still beat Susan, and Susan can still beat Alan, but the order of arrival at the top of the hill will be exactly the same as if they all rode Rivendells. It's a pointless arms race. And my club is big, so we have lots of rides for people of all abilities, so riders can always find people of about the same speed anyway. A Riv, on the other hand, has intrinsic value that doesn't depend on what other people are riding. No matter what my riding friends are riding, my Roadeo will still be beautiful. It'll be comfortable, and it will handle like a dream. Unlike those carbon fiber bikes, my Roadeo fits fenders so I will still be able to ride through winter storms while they're staying home. My green Atlantis will still go anywhere anytime carrying pretty much anything I want, and my purple Atlantis will be the perfect touring machine that I can ride every day, loaded, for weeks and months, through mountains and forests. I get pleasure out of my bikes, independent of what other people have. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
[RBW] WTT: 41cm Noodle and Soba for ???
The noodle has been claimed. But the soba is still up for a trade. If you're like me, you must have a bunch of handlebars in your stash you're not using... Cinelli? 3ttt? A b115 or b105? I'm open to anything really... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oeUkaTBey78J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
I can only imagine the bikes in question (so I'm just going on pure assumption here) but my theory is this: weight comes up so often because on certain modern plastic bikes, it is the only redeeming quality left to praise. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3ZiswP8vJpgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Can I rant just a minute?
Roadie club types tend to be the most unimaginitive of cyclists. Riding faster or more efficiently is the only goal, and lighter weight, to unimaginitive types, is the most obvious way to do that. In the social order of the group, one wins peer approval by conforming to this gospel. Any Rivendell type is probably by nature a nonconformist, who will show up to a fast club ride with 40 mm tires just to experience the incredulity of the other club members. Some of us will get miffed if the other club people don't appreciate that the Riv is anything but heavy and primitive. (of course, the Riv group has its own nuanced gospel of conformity) Side-story about weight: we mostly carry touring type bikes at my shop. Nothing lightweight by racing bike standards. Amazingly, it's a frequent occurrence for a customer to lift a 28-lb bike and say, wow, that's light! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7eUyDqmvqKoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?
...and likewise some of the hand-wringing that occurs here on the list. It seems to border on neurosis at times (lol). RGZ On Thursday, December 29, 2011, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know how you ride a Rivendell with that particular group of folks, but I enjoyed this immensely. ;-) Joe I'm slow because I pedal that way Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VvSpowXMGXYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Can I rant just a minute?
If I can make my Hilsen a little lighter without sacrificing ride comfort and utility, I will. A lighter bike takes less effort to pedal over a hill than a heavier one, but focusing on a couple pounds difference between bicycles is madness. Speaking of madness, you'll see plenty if you try picking up my bike every day.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WqV5y6yDzscJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Anne Paulson for President --Beth in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: new wool jersey; stuff from Jitensha Studio
for sale: Cima Coppi wool jersey: http://cimacoppi.bigcartel.com/product/handmade-merino-wool-cima-coppi-team-jersey brand-new. size medium. short sleeve. originally priced $140 $100 Kimura Billet Reflector for metal fenders 38mm excellent condition. from Jitensha Studio -- originally priced $60 $30 Ritchey 1 cable hanger silver from Jitensha Studio -- Hiroshi's preferred choice. not many of these left, if any. Example: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2447/3851762334_59d095b47b.jpg $30 Actual photos upon request. paypal available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote: Recent interaction to add to the rant: I joined a local club group for a 'Christmas lights' ride a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday evening. The route involved part of hilly Arlington County (but not the truly devilish hilly sections of the county). A friend of mine invited me, he wanted me to meet 'Bunny', a woman he described as 70 and doing adventurous rides with her group of friends. So Bunny and I met, and being close to the same age, we bonded quickly. But I was on the Bleriot and she was on a Specialized carbon fiber, compact double bike - and struggling on the hills. She asked me why I could so easily go up the hills (well, I do ride a LOT and usually on hilly terrain). I said, well, you might do better with more gears. She replied, I know, I shouldn't have listened to the guy in the bike shop who sold me this bike and told me it had all the gears I would ever need. THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE AT BIKE SHOPS MAKES ME CRAZY! That's ridiculous. The best guess for a crank for a 70-year-old woman riding in an area with hills is a triple, with very low gears. Isn't it usually possible to install a triple on these bikes with stupid compact doubles? I would have suggested that the woman get her bike changed over. If one is in one's 70s, one shouldn't be missing out on good riding-- when we start getting on in years, we need to take advantage of all the riding we can squeeze in. One of the people I was ranting about is the 98-pound woman, who is in her 60s and a strong climber. She has a compact double on her bike, and she assured me that a triple would be too heavy. And yet-- I was stronger up some of the *very steep!!!* hills, she was stronger on one long *steep* hill, though she ended up zigzagging. But then, at the end, there was one more steep hill. And, having not had to kill myself in a too-high gear on all the other hills, I rode up it and she skipped it. People should ride the bikes they want, but it seems to me that some of these riders have chosen bikes that are keeping them from doing riding that they would enjoy on a different bike. And the other thing about these light bikes that annoys me is, OK, you will ride faster up hills on a lighter bike, all other things being equal. That is perfectly true, and in my club we do a lot of hills. But... this is only a positional good. That is, if everybody buys a lighter bike, then everybody will be just that little bit faster, but nobody is any better off. That is, Ted can still beat Susan, and Susan can still beat Alan, but the order of arrival at the top of the hill will be exactly the same as if they all rode Rivendells. It's a pointless arms race. And my club is big, so we have lots of rides for people of all abilities, so riders can always find people of about the same speed anyway. A Riv, on the other hand, has intrinsic value that doesn't depend on what other people are riding. No matter what my riding friends are riding, my Roadeo will still be beautiful. It'll be comfortable, and it will handle like a dream. Unlike those carbon fiber bikes, my Roadeo fits fenders so I will still be able to ride through winter storms while they're staying home. My green Atlantis will still go anywhere anytime carrying pretty much anything I want, and my purple Atlantis will be the perfect touring machine that I can ride every day, loaded, for weeks and months, through mountains and forests. I get pleasure out of my bikes, independent of what other people have. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
On Dec 28, 11:11 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: can I just rant here, among like-people, for just a minute? Yes you can and thank you. That was pretty funny. I gotta say, I read your post after checking on some things related to rebuilding my Cross Check as more of a light weight go fast road bike. My current road bikes, a Hilsen and a Bryant randonneur, are great but I've wanted something a little sportier with no Brooks saddle, no fenders, short reach and shallow drop bars set-up a bit below the saddle, maybe 700x28 tires... I'd like to say I don't know why but the truth is I've been thinking that it might be a bit quicker. Busted. I'll probably still do the conversion on my Cross Check because I do want to try out some of the newer modern bars and I just feel the need to mess with Cross Check set-up every couple of months. Really, I just need to get my fat ass out on the bike and get some miles in my legs. Between the holidays, bad weather and sloth I haven't been riding much. That said, I signed up for a 200k permanent on 01/02. The longest I've ridden since Oct has been maybe 40 miles. This'll be interesting... --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
I've embraced heavy bikes, and they've become part of my cycling persona--my nickname on the bike is Diesel, in part because Diesels tend to be heavy. I proudly declare to all who will listen that there is virtually nothing on any of my bikes that was chosen because it was light. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Dec 29, 2011, at 7:19 AM, opa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, thank you, thank you! Nearly everyday, a coworker, who rides a carbon fiber bike, comes in my office, lifts up my Atlantis by the top tube and exclaims: My god that's heavy. I've run out of things to say to him in reply so I may forward your post instead. As a side note, since I've put my massive (his words) 50mm Schwalbe Big Apples on the Atlantis a few weeks ago, I swear the bike is actually quieter, nearly silent. I never realized how loud tires can be...or maybe I just had some bad ones before? Happy New Year! Robert Opalko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zkSLEWLhZkoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
I love hills, and I love carrying loads up hills -- a shopping load up a hill on the trike is great fun. Disclaimer: I am a short distance rider, 30 miles being a long ride -- call me a 1/10 Eric. But this means that I am quite happy pushing biggish gears uphill: 20 lb in the Hoss, standing in a 50 low up a local, very steep, 4/10 mile hill is one example, or ditto on a 1 mile long but less steep hill (I rate hills by rough average coasting downhill speed: the very steep is a 40+, the longer one a 30 or 35 depending on the section). Anyway, one of cycling's great pleasures is standing on hills, IMO. Still, it is very nice on occasion to get on my 17 3/4 lb gofast fixie and push a 75 gear up the same hills. Zen out and take it slow and easy. Patrick about to haul some groceries up some hills on the newly be-Campered Fargo Moore in 50F ABQ, NM On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I've embraced heavy bikes, and they've become part of my cycling persona--my nickname on the bike is Diesel, in part because Diesels tend to be heavy. I proudly declare to all who will listen that there is virtually nothing on any of my bikes that was chosen because it was light. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Dec 29, 2011, at 7:19 AM, opa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, thank you, thank you! Nearly everyday, a coworker, who rides a carbon fiber bike, comes in my office, lifts up my Atlantis by the top tube and exclaims: My god that's heavy. I've run out of things to say to him in reply so I may forward your post instead. As a side note, since I've put my massive (his words) 50mm Schwalbe Big Apples on the Atlantis a few weeks ago, I swear the bike is actually quieter, nearly silent. I never realized how loud tires can be...or maybe I just had some bad ones before? Happy New Year! Robert Opalko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zkSLEWLhZkoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Anne, Anne, Anne, the world is full of delusional people. It takes a lot of focus just to avoid catching other people's delusions. Don't waste energy or sacrifice your joy reacting to them. We finally have some winter weather - about 8 of fresh snow minus 10 temperatures - so I wont be riding for a while. It do look beautiful. Michael, Westford, Vt take care of Self; it's one of a kind and irreplaceable -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UceCFJiL_GQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: GAH! It was the ______?!?
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.netwrote: Were all the other parts of your drive train new when you did the build? As I understand your post the chain was new. What about the cranks, cassette? I'm sure the answer was probably yes but was the chain cut to the right length? Ah, been off the list for a few days... lots of replies here waiting for me! :-) Yeah, it was all brand new. As for chain length, shortening it was one of the things that I tried, which did improve things a touch, but not completely. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Very refreshing ! we live in a business society where if you can't compare the size of your engine -cough- you need some marketing BS -weight for example but limited to- to show off with your new plastic bike. If they were applying this (reducing weight) to cars, maybe the american car industry won't have need a bail out. (rant over) :-) cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm
For sale, Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm, frameset built in Japan. Great condition, no dings or dents in frame. Recently rebuilt with new chain, cables, housing and bottom bracket. Rustproofed with Boeshield. Build info: - Jitensha flat bars, Nitto Pearl stem (100mm), Brooks B17 Special (fancy copper rivets) - Shimano cantis, Paul canti-levers - Stock Sugino crankset (38,32T), White Industries Dos Eno freewheel (16,18T), SRAM chain - Stock rear wheel with dual freewheel threadings, front is the Shimano Dynohub (DH-37N1) with a Busch Miller Lumotec light - Nitto mini-front rack and pedals are included in sale Pictures: https://picasaweb.google.com/108750720565780164683/RivendellQuickbeam54cm?authuser=0feat=directlink Asking $1425/shipped within the continental United States. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm
That is a beautiful bike, Mark. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of moshmosh Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:36 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm For sale, Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm, frameset built in Japan. Great condition, no dings or dents in frame. Recently rebuilt with new chain, cables, housing and bottom bracket. Rustproofed with Boeshield. Build info: - Jitensha flat bars, Nitto Pearl stem (100mm), Brooks B17 Special (fancy copper rivets) - Shimano cantis, Paul canti-levers - Stock Sugino crankset (38,32T), White Industries Dos Eno freewheel (16,18T), SRAM chain - Stock rear wheel with dual freewheel threadings, front is the Shimano Dynohub (DH-37N1) with a Busch Miller Lumotec light - Nitto mini-front rack and pedals are included in sale Pictures: https://picasaweb.google.com/108750720565780164683/RivendellQuickbeam54cm?authuser=0feat=directlink Asking $1425/shipped within the continental United States. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
*there's more to bikes than how much they weigh.* * * Yeah, like aerodynamics. :-) My bro-in-law is a wannabe racer type. Bicycles are one of the few things we have in common. But the reality is that we don't have that in common either. We always end up talking bikes at family gathering but it's more like we tell each other what bike related things we've been up to. I think both of us secretly want to enlighten the other to switch sides on the racer vs unracer divide. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7_yUvI7JreUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: GAH! It was the ______?!?
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:13 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Rex: If you like 7 speed, Loose Screws is a good source. Stuff comes'n'goes but they've had these 13-34 cassettes for a while now: http://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi?d=singlec=Cassettesc=Complete%20Shimanotc=7%20Speeditem_id=LS-8948WFid=95664818798 I picked up one to try but haven't installed yet. I've never used one of the Mega Range ones with the 24 to 34 jump; always seemed like a long jump, especially when you really need it. Awesome, thanks! I strongly prefer 7 speed over 9 speed as it's always felt smoother and quieter to me than any 9 speed setup that I've ever owned/maintained. I think I'll order some of those and a spacer for my XT hub. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Growing my moustache (bars)
Are they merely friction fit? I don't see any expander mechanism. In the past I've created expanders by using a rubber plug with a hole through the center and a large washer on the other side. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I miss the bar-ends on my Quickbeam, where I'm used to gripping and resting my hands on the other bikes. So I made some plugs out of aluminum, to give back the extra length that you get with bar-end shifters. They match the external diameter of the bars (24.0) and have a very snug hand fit inside. These aren't done - I need to hollow them out, and I haven't decided whether just to use strong Loctite, or to rig a screw cone internal stopper. I figured out flikker: http://www.flickr.com/photos/71141757@N02/6566387189/in/photostream But still prefer SmugMug: diesel.smugmug.com/Bici/M-Bar-plugs/ Once I get them attached, I'll finish up the rest of the cockpit (stem, tape, brake cable routing, VO bell mount). But for now, they stay in, and they ride great! - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?
The explanation I love the most, and that tends to shut people up as their brains start processing it is the one that I believe both Grant and Jan have expressed separately. The weight of a bike only amounts to about 4% (I think) of the total rider + equipment. You wouldn't talk about the performance of a car and exclude its engine, so why do that with a bicycle? It's your engine that counts, and unless you're racing with someone else whose engine is equal to yours, the weight of the bicycle becomes practically irrelevant. All the other factors this list know so well are more important. And then, unless the other person is that 98 pound rider that Anne had to endure, you make the suggestion that they (and you) would be better off by losing that weight difference themselves if they want to improve their performance... Then again, sometimes it's just better to shut up and rant on this list for just a little bit... ;-) Happy New Year! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Albatross bars on a Rambouillet?
A guy locally does. When I talked to him, that was one of the things he raved about. He thinks it's a great combination. Marc On Dec 28, 9:11 am, Jay LePree jaymlep...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using my Rambouillet mostly as a commuter and for rides less than 1 to 2 hours long. I have been thinking about trying out some upright bars on it for better visibility. Anyone try this with their Rambouillet? Jay Demarest, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 7:19 AM, opa...@gmail.com opa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, thank you, thank you! Nearly everyday, a coworker, who rides a carbon fiber bike, comes in my office, lifts up my Atlantis by the top tube and exclaims: My god that's heavy. I've run out of things to say to him in reply so I may forward your post instead. The question is... do they lift it while it's still fitted with panniers that still contain your lunch, the tools that you use more frequently for saving stranded CF riders than to fix your own bike, and half full bottles? I inevitably have to laugh when they try to lift my bike by the middle of the top tube, and the loaded rear wheel doesn't even come off the ground before they exclaim that it's heavy... oh, really? You mean my canvas bags, glass and stainless steel lunch containers, and tools weigh as much as you'd expect an entire bike to weigh? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Growing my moustache (bars)
OK, one more post. :-) Here's how I made the expander... http://twowheels.us/bicycles/vrex_headlight.html On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I take that back... my expander was a bit different than that... I remember now that I used some of those threaded table leg inserts for allowing you to put adjustable feet on the bottom of table legs. They have sharp spikes that poked into the rubber plug to keep them from rotating while I was tightening or loosening. I'm looking for pictures, but they're in a deep dusty corner of my website from years ago... On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Are they merely friction fit? I don't see any expander mechanism. In the past I've created expanders by using a rubber plug with a hole through the center and a large washer on the other side. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I miss the bar-ends on my Quickbeam, where I'm used to gripping and resting my hands on the other bikes. So I made some plugs out of aluminum, to give back the extra length that you get with bar-end shifters. They match the external diameter of the bars (24.0) and have a very snug hand fit inside. These aren't done - I need to hollow them out, and I haven't decided whether just to use strong Loctite, or to rig a screw cone internal stopper. I figured out flikker: http://www.flickr.com/photos/71141757@N02/6566387189/in/photostream But still prefer SmugMug: diesel.smugmug.com/Bici/M-Bar-plugs/ Once I get them attached, I'll finish up the rest of the cockpit (stem, tape, brake cable routing, VO bell mount). But for now, they stay in, and they ride great! - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: new wool jersey; stuff from Jitensha Studio
hanger and reflector gone. jersey still available. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, bionnaki bionn...@gmail.com wrote: for sale: Cima Coppi wool jersey: http://cimacoppi.bigcartel.com/product/handmade-merino-wool-cima-coppi-team-jersey brand-new. size medium. short sleeve. originally priced $140 $100 Kimura Billet Reflector for metal fenders 38mm excellent condition. from Jitensha Studio -- originally priced $60 $30 Ritchey 1 cable hanger silver from Jitensha Studio -- Hiroshi's preferred choice. not many of these left, if any. Example: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2447/3851762334_59d095b47b.jpg $30 Actual photos upon request. paypal available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Nearly everyday, a coworker, who rides a carbon fiber bike, comes in my office, lifts up my Atlantis by the top tube and exclaims: My god that's heavy. I've run out of things to say to him in reply so I may forward your post instead. As a side note, since I've put my massive (his words) 50mm Schwalbe Big Apples on the Atlantis a few weeks ago, I swear the bike is actually quieter, nearly silent. I never realized how loud tires can be...or maybe I just had some bad ones before? Happy New Year! Robert Opalko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zkSLEWLhZkoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: new wool jersey; stuff from Jitensha Studio
reflector info: http://www.jitensha.com/eng/kimura_lights.html On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, bionnaki bionn...@gmail.com wrote: for sale: Cima Coppi wool jersey: http://cimacoppi.bigcartel.com/product/handmade-merino-wool-cima-coppi-team-jersey brand-new. size medium. short sleeve. originally priced $140 $100 Kimura Billet Reflector for metal fenders 38mm excellent condition. from Jitensha Studio -- originally priced $60 $30 Ritchey 1 cable hanger silver from Jitensha Studio -- Hiroshi's preferred choice. not many of these left, if any. Example: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2447/3851762334_59d095b47b.jpg $30 Actual photos upon request. paypal available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Misc parts for sale
Velo Orange front porteur rack new - $80 New, includes brake tab and bolts. Polished stainless steel. No holes in the dropout tabs so you drill it to fit your bike. Fits side pull, center pull or canti brakes, mounts to hole in fork crown/dropout. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/racks/vo-porteur-rack-without-rail.html Ritchey Logic triple crankset. $100 170mm long. 46, 36, 24 chain rings. 110/74 mm bolt circle. Fits square taper bottom bracket. Polished arms without logo. In good used condition. Older original style. Dia-Compe NGC450 Gran-Compe Center-Pull Brakes. $100 Used but in good condition. These have some marks from trying to toe in and other light scratches. Reach is Max 57-45mm Min. Original Gran-Compe cable hangers. 1984 Shogun 2000 57st x 55tt real touring bike. Mostly original Deerhead parts. Lugged, Tange tubing, 27 wheels, Triple crank, cantis, SS fenders, f/r racks, bags etc. $600 Email for pics. Prefer local sales on bigger items. Thanks, Erik in Portland -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Like most on this forum, I agree with all the comments, and applaud Anne for spot-on comments. That said, the undeniable fact remains that many more riders pass me on CF bikes then I pass on same. From: opa...@gmail.com opa...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, December 29, 2011 7:19:22 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute? Thank you, thank you, thank you! Nearly everyday, a coworker, who rides a carbon fiber bike, comes in my office, lifts up my Atlantis by the top tube and exclaims: My god that's heavy. I've run out of things to say to him in reply so I may forward your post instead. As a side note, since I've put my massive (his words) 50mm Schwalbe Big Apples on the Atlantis a few weeks ago, I swear the bike is actually quieter, nearly silent. I never realized how loud tires can be...or maybe I just had some bad ones before? Happy New Year! Robert Opalko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zkSLEWLhZkoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
I think that Ann could unload the eels and she'd be way faster up the hills Like Ann, I have almost only good things to say about the local club folks that I often ride with. The great majority of them keep their gram obsession comments under wraps, and wow that's a gorgeous bike is about all I hear when pedaling up in the Ram, Saluki, or Road Std. In fact there is a growing population of SFBs (steel framed bikes) in our little cadre and a visible spread of leather seating even on the Al, Ti, and C frames as well. I'm still trying to get more wool converts though... Tailwinds! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Can I rant just a minute?
Yep, I know the feeling well, and I'm relatively new to this game. I was lucky enough to discover Grant and Bridgestone early on and to find shops like Jim Thill's Hiawatha Cyclery along the way. Sadly, most cyclists don't actually know much about bikes. So picking up a bike and checking its weight is a bit like looking at a used car and (literally) kicking its tires. And the bike industry uses weight to sell bikes the same way that the car industry uses horsepower...it's a number that can be thrown around despite having almost nothing to do with utility or enjoyment. It's dismaying to eavesdrop on buyers at a bike shop or listen to guys on a sales floor talk about the Trekdaleized bikes on offer. Of course, at the other end of the spectrum, where folks maybe know too much, are the bike collectors with never-ridden wall-hangers who want to talk about thinned lugs and tubing diameters and patina. Gee, those Delta brakes don't work very well, but they sure are pretty! I'm just glad I have room in my garage for several bikes. I have a CF weight-weenie bike that is fast and fun on group rides, I have a steel bike with fenders and lights and bags, I have a full-squish mountain bike for trails, I have a rigid MB for other days. I even have a snowbike for winter trail riding. Different tools for different days. I try to keep a sense of humor about the weirdness of cycling clans, but sometimes it's hard. Brian Park City, UT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/S6gfYGB9EioJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
On Christmas Day, my Uncle, Cousin and myself decided to Ride Mount Tamalpais from Fairfax to my Aunts House in Larkspur. They Both had Full Suspension Marin Racing Mountain Bikes and I was on My Atlantis with Fenders and a Medium Saddlesack with a 6 pack of Sierra. :-). A few Mountain Bikers along the way stopped and where amazed that my bike was where it was on the Mountain with my little 47mm marathons. Besides almost killing myself on Indian Trail it was nice to be able to keep my pace with them even though my bike weighs almost double. Heavy or light it all comes down to the rider, legs and Drive and not necessarily the Machine. Dustin G Walnut Creek Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zp2VIctIRBIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
On Dec 29, 2:11 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Yawn. As I said, I love riding with my club. But jeez, there's more to bikes than how much they weigh. As someone who commutes daily, rides for fun almost daily and knows that lightweight isn't always the best choice, I agree 100%. But, as someone who also races, I'd argue that weight matters. Yes, it's frustrating when other riders have a narrow point of view . . . it's goes both ways though. Some folks never look at a bike as anything more than a means of exercise or competition or whatever - that's their loss. And some folks will never experience all the good stuff that comes along with healthy competition and setting personal goals/records - and it could be said that they're missing out on something too. in any event, i get pretty stoked when I see folks riding smart lugged steel bikes. i get equally as stoked when I see folks tearing it up on their race bikes. cycling is a great thing regardless of how you slice it. or maybe i'm just easily motivated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Yes, Anne - it is ridiculous that this 70 year old does not have a triple. And I had to bite my tongue NOT to tell her to go get her bike outfitted with a triple. It wasn't really the time/place for that - in the dark, looking at Christmas decorations, holiday spirit among the group. That's one reason why I invited her to come ride with me on another occasion. I will talk to her about retrofitting it when I next see her. The countryside here has a lot of beautiful scenic places to ride, but the prettiest areas have hills.However, retrofitting her existing bike will not be cheap - it is usually possible to install a triple but it takes some work and could cost her (just an educated guess, folks) around $300, maybe more. Given that the retrofit would allow her to bike more, more easily and see more of those scenic places, maybe she'll be willing to spend the money.My other bike (other than the Bleriot with standard Riv build) is an 8 year old Waterford. However, I spec'd every bit of it, so it has a triple, low gears, comfort geometry, and room for 30-32mm tires. Every couple of months, some guy on a club ride comments on my cassette (11-34), wow, that's quite a low gear you've got there. I say, you bet it is. I may only use that gear once every 3 months, but when I want it, there it is. My low gear was especially helpful in Southwest Virginia this past June on a Bike Virginia tour, where most people walked many of the hills. Or, as Anne describes, were weaving back and forth in that dangerous way - because with hills that steep, you couldn't see oncoming cars.(I actually didn't know about Rivendell when I bought the Waterford, and I didn't spec the geometry but did describe the comfort I wanted.)JoanOn 12/29/11, Anne Paulsonanne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote: Recent interaction to add to the rant: I joined a local club group for a 'Christmas lights' ride a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday evening. The route involved part of hilly Arlington County (but not the truly devilish hilly sections of the county). A friend of mine invited me, he wanted me to meet 'Bunny', a woman he described as 70 and doing adventurous rides with her group of friends. So Bunny and I met, and being close to the same age, we bonded quickly. But I was on the Bleriot and she was on a Specialized carbon fiber, compact double bike - and struggling on the hills. She asked me why I could so easily go up the hills (well, I do ride a LOT and usually on hilly terrain). I said, well, you might do better with more gears. She replied, I know, I shouldn't have listened to the guy in the bike shop who sold me this bike and told me it had all the gears I would ever need. THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE AT BIKE SHOPS MAKES ME CRAZY!That's ridiculous. The best guess for a crank for a 70-year-old womanriding in an area with hills is a triple, with very low gears. Isn'tit usually possible to install a triple on these bikes with stupidcompact doubles? I would have suggested that the woman get her bikechanged over. If one is in one's 70s, one shouldn't be missing out ongood riding-- when we start getting on in years, we need to takeadvantage of all the riding we can squeeze in.One of the people I was ranting about is the 98-pound woman, who is inher 60s and a strong climber. She has a compact double on her bike,and she assured me that a triple would be too heavy. And yet-- I wasstronger up some of the *very steep!!!* hills, she was stronger on onelong *steep* hill, though she ended up zigzagging. But then, at theend, there was one more steep hill. And, having not had to kill myselfin a too-high gear on all the other hills, I rode up it and sheskipped it. People should ride the bikes they want, but it seems to methat some of these riders have chosen bikes that are keeping them fromdoing riding that they would enjoy on a different bike.And the other thing about these light bikes that annoys me is, OK, youwill ride faster up hills on a lighter bike, all other things beingequal. That is perfectly true, and in my club we do a lot of hills.But... this is only a positional good. That is, if everybody buys alighter bike, then everybody will be just that little bit faster, butnobody is any better off. That is, Ted can still beat Susan, and Susancan still beat Alan, but the order of arrival at the top of the hillwill be exactly the same as if they all rode Rivendells. It's apointless arms race. And my club is big, so we have lots of rides forpeople of all abilities, so riders can always find people of about thesame speed anyway. A Riv, on the other hand, has intrinsic value that doesn't depend onwhat other people are riding. No matter what my riding friends areriding, my Roadeo will still be beautiful. It'll be comfortable, andit will handle like a dream. Unlike those carbon fiber bikes, myRoadeo fits fenders so I will still be able to ride through winterstorms while they're staying home. My green Atlantis
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Two quick points: 1. Horsepower matters. My 260hp Chevy HHR SS is much more fun and useful than my 140hp Civic was. Getting going NOW when the need arises is worth the money. 2. Delta brakes sure are pretty. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eJ78bLOkqyoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 11:50 -0600, Joan Oppel wrote: She asked me why I could so easily go up the hills (well, I do ride a LOT and usually on hilly terrain). I said, well, you might do better with more gears. She replied, I know, I shouldn't have listened to the guy in the bike shop who sold me this bike and told me it had all the gears I would ever need. They almost certainly also told her a compact double gave her the identical low gear that she would have with a triple. And, for a very narrow set of assumptions, it does. Of course, that set of assumptions doesn't include cassettes with 32, 34 or 36 tooth sprockets, or granny rings with 24 or 26 teeth, or triples with big rings of 46 or 48 teeth: in other words, Joan Oppel-style gearing! That is to say, the sort of gearing you will find on most Rivendells. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 10:16 -0800, Anne Paulson wrote: And the other thing about these light bikes that annoys me is, OK, you will ride faster up hills on a lighter bike, all other things being equal. That is perfectly true, and in my club we do a lot of hills. But... this is only a positional good. That is, if everybody buys a lighter bike, then everybody will be just that little bit faster, but nobody is any better off. That is, Ted can still beat Susan, and Susan can still beat Alan, but the order of arrival at the top of the hill will be exactly the same as if they all rode Rivendells. It's a pointless arms race. And my club is big, so we have lots of rides for people of all abilities, so riders can always find people of about the same speed anyway. I remember when boutique wheels came on the scene. There was a bunch of guys in my bike club who always rode together. First one, then the next, eventually one by one, they all switched to high-zoot boutique wheels. It was an arms race, with the goal of being the fastest in the pack. When it was all over, everyone was in exactly the same position in the pack that they'd been in before, but collectively they'd spent enough on wheels to buy a new car. But they all felt FAST. And looked PRO. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 13:19 -0800, Joe Bernard wrote: Two quick points: 1. Horsepower matters. My 260hp Chevy HHR SS is much more fun and useful than my 140hp Civic was. Getting going NOW when the need arises is worth the money. Unless you spend a lot of time robbing convenience stores or at the drag strip, just how often does the need arise to get going NOW? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm
Oh my. My size, too. And orange! (Joe starts calculating if selling his XO-3 will offset the cost enough..) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OaX1-sJo-t0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm
Hi. Where is the Quickbeam located? I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DPlDRUArodcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm
Ah crud, that's supposed to be private to the owner. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LNuj9Hh_JxIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
*Unless you spend a lot of time robbing convenience stores or at the drag strip, just how often does the need arise to get going NOW?* ** Merging on freeways, getting away from lane-darting idiots on freeways, zipping past left-turners who can't see a bright red car anymore than they can see bicycles and motorcycles. I had a series of Toyotas and Hondas which would respond to these moments with noise, and not much else. Nobody*needs * 500hp, but half that is pretty useful where I live. But I digress. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GVup7rNIgHoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Anne I thought a Roadeo was a weight weenie bike. :) Kelly I'll have to remember to duck after my wife reads this one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/U6E9S0hddOoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Joe: I'll take uou any day in my Acadiane. (When I get the clutch fixed.) Patrick 30 hp requires a non-slip clutch More Patrick Moore Typed with two thumbs on my iPhone On Dec 29, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 13:19 -0800, Joe Bernard wrote: Two quick points: 1. Horsepower matters. My 260hp Chevy HHR SS is much more fun and useful than my 140hp Civic was. Getting going NOW when the need arises is worth the money. Unless you spend a lot of time robbing convenience stores or at the drag strip, just how often does the need arise to get going NOW? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?
Kris, I'd say the corollary to that is throwing a little bit of dirt into the ride. I can't imagine riding on a bike that I couldn't wander down a dirt track on. A ride just doesn't feel right if it doesn't include some dirt in it! I'm not saying a MCRB w/ 23s can't ride a road like this http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/6590503805/in/photostream (yesterday's ride), but most riders on said bike wouldn't want to do it. On 12/29/11, Kris Kenow krisallenke...@hotmail.com wrote: I do enjoy riding with others, but if you and your companions are not on the same wavelength it can suck. Let em ride 29 miles like (insert fast cyclist here), I'd go ride 120 miles like Jan or 60 miles like Grant. Some people know how to enjoy being in the saddle longer than others. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Another DiNotte Light Question
Based on the comments last week concerning the DiNotte 300L tail light, I bought one as I was feeling distinctly under tail-lighted in the dark. Those little retro bullet-shaped things that Riv sells really don't create much of a warning. The 300L is very bright. A dumb question though: does this thing have a blinking mode? I can adjust the brightness but I can't get it to blink even though the instructions suggest that it will blink if the right combination of button pushes is performed. Or, are they talking about another model? GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Thanks, Anne, for kicking off such a spirited thread. Let loose a rant anytime! And I just gotta also say that I like reading about women in their 60's and 70's riding. I'm in my 50's and hope to be like Rosalind Carter riding her Glorius (or did I just make that up?) in her 80's. liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
I've got the power, but the Citroen will get me with lightness. Until a big gust of wind on the pass between Vallejo and Fairfield... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RT483602v1sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivendell: Our First Real Sale
We've got bills. We need to start 2012 with fewer SKUs (part numbers). We need to sell one or two of a thing, and not five. It will be good for us with your help. It should be good for you, too. Go here, and as they say, Shop Early For Best Selection. http://www.rivbike.com/Rivendell-Sale-s/571.htm And thank you. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell: Our First Real Sale
Looks like some of the sale prices aren't showing in the cart. We are working on it. If you have ordered, the price will be adjusted. Thanks! On Dec 29, 3:37 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: We've got bills. We need to start 2012 with fewer SKUs (part numbers). We need to sell one or two of a thing, and not five. It will be good for us with your help. It should be good for you, too. Go here, and as they say, Shop Early For Best Selection. http://www.rivbike.com/Rivendell-Sale-s/571.htm And thank you. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Nice post about Grant.
Check it out: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/12/28/people-who-have-inspired-us-grant-petersen/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
They almost certainly also told her a compact double gave her the identical low gear that she would have with a triple. And, for a very narrow set of assumptions, it does. I've heard this from more than one source I too puzzle about it. Assuming the typical MCRB comes with a standard Shimano road cassette, the big (I use the term loosely) cog is 27 or 28. If a road triple has a 30 inner ring a compact double a 34, something has to change before the bike leaves the shop to get that identical low. Recently I have seen a number of racing bikes fitted with wide range cassettes with 32 or 34 big cogs. I had this discussion during a long climb with a gal with such a set-up. She was kinda grinding away on her lightweight, compact double racing bike while I was able to keep up a decent cadence with the 24 granny on my Atlantis. We discussed the possibility of a triple along with the wide range cassette being more useful on such a climb. The subject of comparative bike weights was left untouched. dougP On Dec 29, 1:21 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 11:50 -0600, Joan Oppel wrote: She asked me why I could so easily go up the hills (well, I do ride a LOT and usually on hilly terrain). I said, well, you might do better with more gears. She replied, I know, I shouldn't have listened to the guy in the bike shop who sold me this bike and told me it had all the gears I would ever need. They almost certainly also told her a compact double gave her the identical low gear that she would have with a triple. And, for a very narrow set of assumptions, it does. Of course, that set of assumptions doesn't include cassettes with 32, 34 or 36 tooth sprockets, or granny rings with 24 or 26 teeth, or triples with big rings of 46 or 48 teeth: in other words, Joan Oppel-style gearing! That is to say, the sort of gearing you will find on most Rivendells. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell: Our First Real Sale
Fixed! On Dec 29, 4:00 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like some of the sale prices aren't showing in the cart. We are working on it. If you have ordered, the price will be adjusted. Thanks! On Dec 29, 3:37 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: We've got bills. We need to start 2012 with fewer SKUs (part numbers). We need to sell one or two of a thing, and not five. It will be good for us with your help. It should be good for you, too. Go here, and as they say, Shop Early For Best Selection. http://www.rivbike.com/Rivendell-Sale-s/571.htm And thank you. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 16:46 -0800, Joe Bernard wrote: I think one thing that gets missed about folks who prefer Compact Doubles is that it isn't just about a minimal weight savings: It's looks. Touring bikes have triples, racing bikes have doubles. This matters to modern-carbon-racey people. Plus, SRAM's Tapshift only works doubles. The usual comment you see on the forums is triples are too complicated. Can't say I ever understood that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
*The usual comment you see on the forums is triples are too complicated. Can't say I ever understood that.* ** I think some people find the centering/trimming activity betwen the small and middle rings troublesome. Most of these people are running indexed front brifters, which, in my one experience, sucked several levels of Big Time for triple-shifting. It's a shifter problem, not number of chainrings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7W7wys49j60J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nice post about Grant.
Amen! I was thinking of Grant's influence on cycling and components and accessories now readily available -- as they were not, 20 years ago -- this afternoon as I rode home from several errands on my Fargo equipped with Silvers, Noodles, X2Ds, Camper, 46 outer, etc: he really has been a boon to cycling. It's good of Jan to acknowledge G's contribution. On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Check it out: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/12/28/people-who-have-inspired-us-grant-petersen/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Can I rant just a minute?
Here is fun chart to play with http://bikecalculator.com/veloUS.html Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HDb2DyclhLoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?
The dream of every CF roadie should be to have a buddy who rides a Rivendell and brings along the camera, food and other elements that enhance the ride, while they secretly envy the careless freedom that not worrying about weight and bringing along the stuff you want, provides. René On Thursday, December 29, 2011, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: . But, if I was going to obsess about weight, I wouldn't have brought the camera. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/knawTi_e_FAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Can I rant just a minute?
We had several different conversations about bike envy during the very pleasant day. They were all about how he envied my bike. I thought I was done with steel bikes until today That handlebar bag is looking good right about now Those lights are really great, which hub is that? Those puddles probably didn't stripe you with those fenders, huh? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/V6vcDqaEWCMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] R12 complete
I did a 200k permanent down in Southern California with my cousin Ed (you'll note the family resemblance). That rounded off my R12 award (at least one brevet of at least 200k every month for a continuous year). It was all on the Hilsen. That was one of my big goals for 2011. For 2012 I'm shooting for my first SR series. I know not all of you are into this kind of thing, but I'm pretty happy about it. As the Great Acosta says: pictures prove it happened http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157628629598887/with/6598019731/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vGD9KlO7l64J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: R12 complete
I'm into reading about it, and seeing pics. *Doing* it? Not so much.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/b6dXhNDsumkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: R12 complete
Congrats. That's an epic accomplishment to me! =) Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qFtNrUyjQUoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: 50cm Rivendell Rambouillet
In great shape! Has nitto noodle handlebar shimano brakes along with silver tektro interrupter brakes. Has a sugino triple crank do not know the exact specs of it. And a 9 speed rear hub. Also has shimano bar end friction shifters. Only things not be included are pedals, seat post, and saddle. Ask for pictures and I will email them for you. The frame is painted blue. I am asking for a reasonable 1600, as well as the cost of shipping. I am located in the Los Angeles area if you want to pick it up. Thanks a bunch, Duy Tran you can email me at duyhav...@yahoo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Growing my moustache (bars)
Friction fit, with permanent loc-tite, was my first thought. That lets me hollow them out all the way through. Your suggestion of an expander butt-plug is good, and I have been tinkering with that, too. Would probably run a rubber donut against the end, with a washer and captive nut on the far side, and then bore out most of the extender, but leave a face inside that a small bolt could face against, to tighten the washer - and bulge the rubber donut. We'll see. - Andrew, Berkeley On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Are they merely friction fit? I don't see any expander mechanism. In the past I've created expanders by using a rubber plug with a hole through the center and a large washer on the other side. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I miss the bar-ends on my Quickbeam, where I'm used to gripping and resting my hands on the other bikes. So I made some plugs out of aluminum, to give back the extra length that you get with bar-end shifters. They match the external diameter of the bars (24.0) and have a very snug hand fit inside. These aren't done - I need to hollow them out, and I haven't decided whether just to use strong Loctite, or to rig a screw cone internal stopper. I figured out flikker: http://www.flickr.com/photos/71141757@N02/6566387189/in/photostream But still prefer SmugMug: diesel.smugmug.com/Bici/M-Bar-plugs/ Once I get them attached, I'll finish up the rest of the cockpit (stem, tape, brake cable routing, VO bell mount). But for now, they stay in, and they ride great! - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm
That's sweet. And as an added plus, Orange is the fastest colour. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm
Pardon my ignorance, I rode an old mountain bike through the whole single speed era. I get the flip-flop in the rear, but how do you shift between chain rings? Too small for me anyway. Which is probably a good thing. Beautiful bike. Jay On Dec 29, 10:36 am, moshmosh mosh...@comcast.net wrote: For sale, Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm, frameset built in Japan. Great condition, no dings or dents in frame. Recently rebuilt with new chain, cables, housing and bottom bracket. Rustproofed with Boeshield. Build info: - Jitensha flat bars, Nitto Pearl stem (100mm), Brooks B17 Special (fancy copper rivets) - Shimano cantis, Paul canti-levers - Stock Sugino crankset (38,32T), White Industries Dos Eno freewheel (16,18T), SRAM chain - Stock rear wheel with dual freewheel threadings, front is the Shimano Dynohub (DH-37N1) with a Busch Miller Lumotec light - Nitto mini-front rack and pedals are included in sale Pictures:https://picasaweb.google.com/108750720565780164683/RivendellQuickbeam... Asking $1425/shipped within the continental United States. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm
You stop, put the chain on the other ring (and rear cog, if you prefer), adjust the wheel in the horizontal dropouts, and ride on. I think Dos Enos means one side has two cogs so you don't have to flip the wheel around. Joe I want it Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8Ol5cXyzbowJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm
Loosen up the QR on the rear wheel, slide it forward and use your finger/stick/hex-key to move the chain to the other ring. Repeat as necessary. The QB has extra long fork-ends on the back, which gives you a pretty good gear range (eight teeth I think?). On 12/29/11, Jay robin...@gmail.com wrote: Pardon my ignorance, I rode an old mountain bike through the whole single speed era. I get the flip-flop in the rear, but how do you shift between chain rings? Too small for me anyway. Which is probably a good thing. Beautiful bike. Jay On Dec 29, 10:36 am, moshmosh mosh...@comcast.net wrote: For sale, Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm, frameset built in Japan. Great condition, no dings or dents in frame. Recently rebuilt with new chain, cables, housing and bottom bracket. Rustproofed with Boeshield. Build info: - Jitensha flat bars, Nitto Pearl stem (100mm), Brooks B17 Special (fancy copper rivets) - Shimano cantis, Paul canti-levers - Stock Sugino crankset (38,32T), White Industries Dos Eno freewheel (16,18T), SRAM chain - Stock rear wheel with dual freewheel threadings, front is the Shimano Dynohub (DH-37N1) with a Busch Miller Lumotec light - Nitto mini-front rack and pedals are included in sale Pictures:https://picasaweb.google.com/108750720565780164683/RivendellQuickbeam... Asking $1425/shipped within the continental United States. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nice post about Grant.
Though I have been following Bridgestone-Rivendell since 1993, I didn't realize, or had forgotten that Grant designed the Nitto Noodle handlebar. I too look at my bikes and see Grant all over them: larger frames, higher handlebars, fatter tires, Brooks, Carradice/Baggins, Nitto, TA/Ritchey cranks, platform pedals, sub53T large rings. And these components are hanging on four frames he designed (A/R, Road Standard, Quickbeam, Legolas). Thanks so much Grant! You breathed new life into my cycling after the post-racing-days doldrums. And thanks Jan for your contributions to the alternative cycling reality. Took the Legolas out for a brisk 75 minute ride this afternoon in celebration of a 42F high temperature. Rode the modified low trail, downtube friction shifting, Son Schmidt/Edelux lighted LHT to work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bec4757KavoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] R12 complete
Hats off to you!!!... Or should it be helmets off? Not meaning to start a discussion... Impressive by any means. I really mean well when I say I envy you for accomplishing your goals; I didn't achieve mine... René On Thursday, December 29, 2011, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats. That's an epic accomplishment to me! =) Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qFtNrUyjQUoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] R12 complete
R12 and 3Kkm as well, congratulations! On 12/29/11, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Hats off to you!!!... Or should it be helmets off? Not meaning to start a discussion... Impressive by any means. I really mean well when I say I envy you for accomplishing your goals; I didn't achieve mine... René On Thursday, December 29, 2011, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats. That's an epic accomplishment to me! =) Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qFtNrUyjQUoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
