[RBW] Re: Rain Riding and Wood Fenders
*Really* looking nice Brian! Beautiful build. Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-3s9SaxmoxoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] New build and grease
I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pari-Motos and flats (was Re: New 650B conversion)
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 21:30 -0700, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: Done because the tire was worn out, or you were done riding Pari-Motos? I guess I'll give them a try and hope for the best... Done because the tire in question was surprisingly, almost shockingly thin, and because it was obvious there was something embedded in there that I was unable to see to remove. Had there been a significant amount of tread left it might have been worth going over the tire with a magnifying glass trying to locate whatever it was, but under the circumstances clearly not worth the effort. What I did was buy another Pari Moto, used that for quite a few miles. Then I was going on a self-supported tour on a crushed limestone rail trail and I realized the back tire on the bike was getting fairly thin, so rather than risk punctures on the tour I purchased and installed a set of Lierres, which are still on the bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New build and grease
On May 22, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. Grease pretty much be grease. Any automotive, marine or bicycle grease is fine. I use Phil because I have a lot of it. I do think that white greases don't last as long. Now that I think of it, I don't grease much stuff any more. I have sealed bearing wheels, BBs, headsets on most of my bikes. I'd rather ride than overhaul my bikes. In the old days I overhauled my bikes once a year in the winter and that was more than often enough. Now my maintenance schedule is replacing the chain when needed and wiping the crud off the frame once in a while. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Double FD work with a triple?
I'm doing some work on my rando bike, switching from a double (Sugino 46/34) to a triple (46/36/26) and it almost looks like the double FD (FSA) could shift between all the rings. I may give it a try. I haven't really messed with it yet. The 107mm BB I was, surprisingly, able to use with the double seems fine with the triple. Anyone ever do anything like this. I realize that there may be an issue that comes up that I haven't anticipated but just figured I'd put it out there. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Double FD work with a triple?
I friction shift 26/36/46 with a 105 double. Works fine, although the shift to/from the granny isn't exactly snappy. Best, joe broach portland, or On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing some work on my rando bike, switching from a double (Sugino 46/34) to a triple (46/36/26) and it almost looks like the double FD (FSA) could shift between all the rings. I may give it a try. I haven't really messed with it yet. The 107mm BB I was, surprisingly, able to use with the double seems fine with the triple. Anyone ever do anything like this. I realize that there may be an issue that comes up that I haven't anticipated but just figured I'd put it out there. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pari-Motos and flats (was Re: New 650B conversion)
Can you compare the performance of the Lierres to the Pari-Motos or even Hetres? Taylor On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:16:31 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 21:30 -0700, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: Done because the tire was worn out, or you were done riding Pari-Motos? I guess I'll give them a try and hope for the best... Done because the tire in question was surprisingly, almost shockingly thin, and because it was obvious there was something embedded in there that I was unable to see to remove. Had there been a significant amount of tread left it might have been worth going over the tire with a magnifying glass trying to locate whatever it was, but under the circumstances clearly not worth the effort. What I did was buy another Pari Moto, used that for quite a few miles. Then I was going on a self-supported tour on a crushed limestone rail trail and I realized the back tire on the bike was getting fairly thin, so rather than risk punctures on the tour I purchased and installed a set of Lierres, which are still on the bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PcoFVl9cM6MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: TRP Brake Levers?
Not sure if it matters to you, but if you have smaller hands, they are great. On May 21, 4:21 pm, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The Cane Creek / Tech's have also been redesigned with more ergo feeling levers. The Cane Creek version comes in gum hoods and still about $45 if I remember. But the TRP do look nice. Michael On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:11:13 PM UTC-4, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote: Thanks for all the comments, my main interest was the improved braking from the hoods and it sounds like that is their biggest benefit. The aesthetic improvement will be appreciated, at least unlike a beautiful lugged seatpost these I can see while riding ;-) They will go on this weekend! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 58 Blue Rambouillet, $1400 OBO Shipped
What is the standover height in cm please? On May 21, 8:38 pm, Tim Whalen whalen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, after months of normal bike selling indecision and second guessing I am putting this Rambouillet up for sale. I bought this from the original owner, another list member, but have ended up riding only my Roadeo. I will email you detailed pics if you are interested. Professionally packing and shipping included in the price. Mostly Ultegra build with details listed below. Many new parts as noted, rest have normal wear but are fully functional and good for many many more miles. Ultegra triple crank, 172.5 mm, 48, 42, 28, with Shimano middle ring and unknown but good inner and outer chainrings Ultegra front and rear Derailleurs Shimano HG 27-12 9 speed cassette Suntour bar end shifters Wheels are Ultegra hubs with 32 spoke Open Pro rims and new Jack Brown Green tires - true and fast, I love 'em Nitto 65 seatpost Nitto Noodles, 46 cm Nitto Technomic 5 cm stem Shimano brake levers with Tektro cross levers New SR Respiro saddle New SKS fenders MKS GR9 pedals and half toe clips New bar tape with gel pads underneath I don't know what kind the brakes are, seems to me they are an IRD predecessor I got from Rivendell some years back. They work great. Original Harris Cyclery decal. Paint is very good with a couple of minor chips/scratches and a small chain suck scrape that I can see. The one flaw this bike has is a shallow dimple under the paint in the right side of the top tube. It came to the original owner that way and is a minor cosmetic flaw with no impact on the integrity of the tube. Detailed close ups available. Great riding highly versatile bike, as you already know. Tim Colorado Springs https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/r63JZxbwVkOFnlBZ28b2mbqMA5KdsN8... View Photo https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/r63JZxbwVkOFnlBZ28b2mbqMA5KdsN8... If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the following into your browser:https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/r63JZxbwVkOFnlBZ28b2mbqMA5KdsN8... To share your photos or receive notification when your friends share photos, get your own free Picasa Web Albums accounthttps://picasaweb.google.com . https://picasaweb.google.com picasaweblogo-en_US.gif 3KViewDownload IMG_0008.JPG 14KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Double FD work with a triple?
Thanks Joe. I couldn't get it to work so I just put on the old 105 triple I have. As soon as my new SON hub is connected to the light (Edelux) and the brakes adjusted my rando bike will be complete and ready for its upcoming 600k and the Cascade 1200k. I wish I could say as much for the rider... --mike On May 22, 8:01 am, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: I friction shift 26/36/46 with a 105 double. Works fine, although the shift to/from the granny isn't exactly snappy. Best, joe broach portland, or On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing some work on my rando bike, switching from a double (Sugino 46/34) to a triple (46/36/26) and it almost looks like the double FD (FSA) could shift between all the rings. I may give it a try. I haven't really messed with it yet. The 107mm BB I was, surprisingly, able to use with the double seems fine with the triple. Anyone ever do anything like this. I realize that there may be an issue that comes up that I haven't anticipated but just figured I'd put it out there. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pari-Motos and flats (was Re: New 650B conversion)
I've run on Pari-Motos, Hetres, and Soma B-Lines. I've been riding brevets on the Hetres, which are my favorite in terms of road feel and feeling fast. I'll probably run the Hetre's on the 400km and 600km. But if I end up riding a longer ride this year, I'll probably use the Pari-Motos because they are a little lighter and a little faster than the Hetre's. The Soma B-Lines are just fine and I use them on training rides or shorter brevets; they feel about like Panaracer Pasela's (without Tourguard). I've had two flats on the 650B tires in around 6000 km. One was a B-Line at the end of a fleche, I was probably just careless and ran through some stuff on the shoulder of the road. The other was a Pari-Moto in the pouring rain on the second night of Paris-Brest-Paris and I had pulled off onto the shoulder to do something. Probably got something stuck in the tire and flatted about a mile later. I probably have around 1200 miles on the Pari-Motos, about the same on the B-Lines and the rest on the Hetre's. On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:08:58 AM UTC-4, Taylor wrote: Can you compare the performance of the Lierres to the Pari-Motos or even Hetres? Taylor On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:16:31 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 21:30 -0700, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: Done because the tire was worn out, or you were done riding Pari-Motos? I guess I'll give them a try and hope for the best... Done because the tire in question was surprisingly, almost shockingly thin, and because it was obvious there was something embedded in there that I was unable to see to remove. Had there been a significant amount of tread left it might have been worth going over the tire with a magnifying glass trying to locate whatever it was, but under the circumstances clearly not worth the effort. What I did was buy another Pari Moto, used that for quite a few miles. Then I was going on a self-supported tour on a crushed limestone rail trail and I realized the back tire on the bike was getting fairly thin, so rather than risk punctures on the tour I purchased and installed a set of Lierres, which are still on the bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/t4mcz54NQBcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Frame bags
I have been a bit out of the loop on the forum stuff lately, but saw the mention and am catching up. You can see the Frame bag I made for my Roadeo paired with a couple of acorn bags here: *http://flic.kr/p/91HQ5W* http://flic.kr/p/91HQ5W I love mine, even though I am biased since I still make them for sale from time to time. I use it, on another bike, almost daily. This style of bag can be very useful on larger frames, moderately so on mediums, and are a significant compromise on the smaller bikes. The biggest factor as mentioned is impaction of the water bottles. This can be alleviated by the use of side loading cages, or just using a bladder with a hose as most bike packing guys do. I prefer to use bottles and refill them from a bladder I store in the bag. Another thing you may not think of is how you transport or store the bike. If you use a rack that cradles the top tube, the bag will be in the way and need to come off. The rubbing of the thighs is controlled by two factors. The overall design of the bag, both width and depth. The depth is an issue because a deep bag will allow you to overstuff it resulting in bulging. I have found that widths in the 1.75-2 range with about 6 depth work well in most applications. Also mentioned was the paint rub and wear from brazeons. I try to mitigate the rub by backing all of my Velcro with either canvas or trim. The more affordable bags usually have raw Velcro’s back side against the frame. Te Velcro plastic is likely close to or harder than the clear coat, and results in wear to the paint Things like bottle bosses or pump nubs will result in wear on the bag. I have been using ballistic nylon for the perimeter of the bag and found that this is a decent solution. There is a good bit of thought that goes into making this style of bag, not to mention the hand work. One bag can be made to fit a narrow range of bike sizes, but in general the range is narrow compared to front or rear bags. Hence, bags that fit well are usually custom, and other bags are fair fit a best for a traditional frame in most cases. Material selection is another issue. I like the untreated canvas for a variety of reasons. If you like the waxed or treated canvas you may want to think about what is in contact with your food or sweaty garments that you may be taking on and off, storing in the bag, and thus transferring to you in small steady amounts. Other bag makers have been working through that by lining their bags. For me, I avoid a design that requires a liner, as I do not feel like carrying a bag in a bag. Also consider the person(s) cutting and sewing the materials and what if any effect the waxes and formaldehydes in the canvas may have on them in the long term. These kind of thoughts have led me towards the Xpac laminated materials that are both waterproof, durable and light. I hope to have some samples to show in the near future that show off the way modern materials can be combined with trims like leather or vinyl in traditional designs to achieve a pleasing blend of style and function. You may be asking what is it god for if there is so much trouble in the design? I use mine to hold my GoPro on the pole mount and a long mini pump (I hate frame pumps). I often fit a dozen eggs or a 2.5L platypus bottle as need demands. Anything long and narrow that would stick out of other bags. Overall these end up being more useful than you might think. Rob - oceanaircycles.com On Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:57:22 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Nice bag. After reading that it does't interfere with your bottles, I thought it might be the thing to use on my Fargo, but I see from the photos that on a 17 (43cm) severely compacted frame, it wouldn't do at all. Must check their other models On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 8:11 AM, stevew st...@stevewimberg.com wrote: Hi all, Just a few notes on the Revelate Tangle frame bag. I went ahead and ordered the medium size to go with my 60cm Ram. (shipped to Boston from Alaska in 3 days!) I went with the medium because I don't need a ton of space for this bag, and I wanted to minimize any difficulty with getting water bottles out of their cages. I did the Climb to the Clouds ride up to the top of Mt Wachusett here in MA yesterday, and the bag worked great. It didn't rub my knees at all, it was easy to get my foodstuffs out of the bag while riding, and I am able to get at both bottles. Though, the seat tube bottle doesn't go in and out quite as smoothly. I'm not using the larger size plastic bottles, but smaller aluminum ones. The strap that connects the front bottom of the bag to the down tube that is just long enough to make the connection. I use the Ram mostly for brevets, and got the frame bag to replace an Acorn Handlebar Bag. The handlebar bag worked well, but I was never a huge fan of how
Re: [RBW] New build and grease
I agree with Tim that for the most part grease is grease. The differentiator for me is smell. Everything I've ever used that was automotive smelled really bad to me. I'm satisfied with the dark green Park brand, which is suspiciously similar to the dark green Phil brand. I was not pleased at how the Lanolube that Riv sold seemed to get really gummy over time. I had used it for seatpost and stem installation, and it was like tacky glue after 18 months or so. I'm back to grease in those areas. On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:29:07 AM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote: On May 22, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. Grease pretty much be grease. Any automotive, marine or bicycle grease is fine. I use Phil because I have a lot of it. I do think that white greases don't last as long. Now that I think of it, I don't grease much stuff any more. I have sealed bearing wheels, BBs, headsets on most of my bikes. I'd rather ride than overhaul my bikes. In the old days I overhauled my bikes once a year in the winter and that was more than often enough. Now my maintenance schedule is replacing the chain when needed and wiping the crud off the frame once in a while. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uqmInm19894J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New build and grease
+1 on the grease is grease front. On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3OMvbS7wUwAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New build and grease
I like park grease since it is sold at my local REI...if they sold something else I would probably just buy that too though park stuff has a non-automotive smell which is nice. Nothing has as satisfying of a smell as frame saver though, I could wear that like cologne, haha. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote: +1 on the grease is grease front. On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3OMvbS7wUwAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike to school, work week
Cool, Addison. We have a similar thing going up here in Seattle, tying together Bike Trains, Middle School programs, Doughnut Rides, Greenways, you name it. http://walkbikeschools.wordpress.com/ The blog is broken down by school, and the folks behind it have started to make some real progress. The middle school kids had 56 bikes in the cage on May 18th, and Bryant Elementary had 110 on the same day, with the kids all meeting at Top Pot doughnuts and riding to school with a Seattle PD Bicycle officer escort. Riv content - there's a Glorius, a Saluki, and an All-arounder in there somewhere. On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:33:06 PM UTC-7, Addison wrote: Thought some might enjoy thisI helped organize an event for bike to school week and we got about 60 kids out on bikes. Even had a police escort for parts which the kids went crazy for. Riv content, I rode my allrounder and there is a little glimpse of it. http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2012/05/bike-to-work-school-and-fun-wrap-up.html Regards, Addison Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9bO94YelAtAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New build and grease
I too used the Park grease. A tub lasted me 5 years. I built many bikes and repacked many wheels. Good stuff. On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:04:26 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: I like park grease since it is sold at my local REI...if they sold something else I would probably just buy that too though park stuff has a non-automotive smell which is nice. Nothing has as satisfying of a smell as frame saver though, I could wear that like cologne, haha. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote: +1 on the grease is grease front. On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3OMvbS7wUwAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9Wz9ryCONvcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rain Riding and Wood Fenders
Yes indeed. Congratulations Brian. -Allan On Monday, May 21, 2012 11:41:20 PM UTC-7, Rob wrote: *Really* looking nice Brian! Beautiful build. Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1ulATLLCdGIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thank you
Manny, Congratulations on the new bike! You are an inspiration and I'm so glad that got your stolen Riv replaced. Kudos to Grant and the gang for making this happen. I too look forward to your posts and photos. Is that a 48 Sam? I recall that you had a 51 Bleriot, which is what I have. I also contemplated getting a 48 Sam, thinking that to be the size best for me. Can you compare the fit between the two bikes? Any difference that you can feel? Enjoy your bike as only you can! Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EnHEpoA4ygIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 58 Blue Rambouillet, $1400 OBO Shipped
From my documents, for a 58cm ram, so height is 82.1 cm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Nr0hTh2Vs9oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pari-Motos and flats (was Re: New 650B conversion)
On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 08:08 -0700, Taylor wrote: Can you compare the performance of the Lierres to the Pari-Motos or even Hetres? Not really. Hetres don't fit on the Kogswell, so that comparison is out (that bike is too different from the MAP for tire comparisons to be valid) and it's been since before the Mineral WV earthquake that I've ridden the PMs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter and/or Front Derailleur Issue(s)
and finished a 400k on Sunday morning. Still working perfectly. On May 18, 2:09 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: My rear Silver shifter was intermittently doing that to me, always, of course, at a Really Bad Time. It was doing this from day 1. I tightened it down. I tightened it down. It would still intermittently just lose it, even when it was really tight. Replaced the washers. Same thing. I now have a replacement Silver rear shifter (through the seller). Rode a century a couple weekends ago, no issues. I am told it is a rare problem, but there you have it. Lynne F On May 18, 4:24 am, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I use bees wax on my silver bar ends and find I still need to retighten the D ring about once a ride, maybe every 20 miles or so. Has anyone tried lock tite? michael On Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:07:03 PM UTC-4, Noel M. wrote: Zack, thank you for your input. I'll keep that in mind! Thank you. On Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:49:32 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote: and if it still slips, take it apart and put some beeswax on the threaded bolt thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New build and grease
I use the Phil grease. I figure I'm not running a shop so I can buy fancy expensive grease. Tried white lithium but it tends to get dry and tacky. Ryan On May 22, 3:44 am, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] New route for today's commute
New route for today's commute, winding back and forth over old footbridges across the Brandywine Creek. Abandoned DuPont mill/factory buildings in back ground. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7250981952/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7250980730/in/photostream -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless
On May 21, 5:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for that tip. I'll probably do the wheelbuild and the tire installation at the bike shop where I used to work. That'll give me access to a burly compressor. a compressor definitely helps, but I've had good luck with a track pump and soapy water (rims are UST though, so that probably helped seating). it's a simple process and shouldn't be messy at all if the tire and rim work together. just don't bug out if they don't seal up/ hold pressure right away. If the sidewalls on the b-lines are porous, it might take a day or two for the sealant to do its thing. I can't imagine using tubes again on my MTB. it's just a better way to roll. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless
The thing that I'm not clear on is what actually is happening to the sealant goo? Is it hardening into a rubber coating? Is the entire inside of the tire and rimstrip coated? So when you remove the tire when it's worn out, you are destroying that seal by ripping it apart. What about the puddle of extra sealant at the end? If you leave that pooled in the bottom, does that make an offcenter lump that shakes the workstand when you spin the wheel, same as a reflector? I'd hate that. Or does it stay liquid and slosh around forever? Or does it magically go away? If I do mount tires again, I need more sealant, right? At some point I imagine the weight of a few sealing jobs could exceed the weight of a tube. Is that crazy talk? On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:10:25 PM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote: On May 21, 5:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for that tip. I'll probably do the wheelbuild and the tire installation at the bike shop where I used to work. That'll give me access to a burly compressor. a compressor definitely helps, but I've had good luck with a track pump and soapy water (rims are UST though, so that probably helped seating). it's a simple process and shouldn't be messy at all if the tire and rim work together. just don't bug out if they don't seal up/ hold pressure right away. If the sidewalls on the b-lines are porous, it might take a day or two for the sealant to do its thing. I can't imagine using tubes again on my MTB. it's just a better way to roll. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/W3NeWh1bfTIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless
Stupid (or at least uninformed) question: What's the advantage of tubeless? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:38 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless The thing that I'm not clear on is what actually is happening to the sealant goo? Is it hardening into a rubber coating? Is the entire inside of the tire and rimstrip coated? So when you remove the tire when it's worn out, you are destroying that seal by ripping it apart. What about the puddle of extra sealant at the end? If you leave that pooled in the bottom, does that make an offcenter lump that shakes the workstand when you spin the wheel, same as a reflector? I'd hate that. Or does it stay liquid and slosh around forever? Or does it magically go away? If I do mount tires again, I need more sealant, right? At some point I imagine the weight of a few sealing jobs could exceed the weight of a tube. Is that crazy talk? On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:10:25 PM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote: On May 21, 5:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for that tip. I'll probably do the wheelbuild and the tire installation at the bike shop where I used to work. That'll give me access to a burly compressor. a compressor definitely helps, but I've had good luck with a track pump and soapy water (rims are UST though, so that probably helped seating). it's a simple process and shouldn't be messy at all if the tire and rim work together. just don't bug out if they don't seal up/ hold pressure right away. If the sidewalls on the b-lines are porous, it might take a day or two for the sealant to do its thing. I can't imagine using tubes again on my MTB. it's just a better way to roll. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/W3NeWh1bfTIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless
I've had numerous people tell me that once you try tubeless you never go back. The highlights according to them have been ride quality, flat resistance and light weight. I think the theory is your tires are much more supple because there's less material holding the air in. I don't quite get where the flat resistance comes from in terms of punctures, unless the goo stays gooey and it's kind of a self-sealing thing. I think pinch flats become nearly impossible. Light weight I think is something like 80-100g of savings. On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:38:57 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: Stupid (or at least uninformed) question: What's the advantage of tubeless? -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *William *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:38 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless The thing that I'm not clear on is what actually is happening to the sealant goo? Is it hardening into a rubber coating? Is the entire inside of the tire and rimstrip coated? So when you remove the tire when it's worn out, you are destroying that seal by ripping it apart. What about the puddle of extra sealant at the end? If you leave that pooled in the bottom, does that make an offcenter lump that shakes the workstand when you spin the wheel, same as a reflector? I'd hate that. Or does it stay liquid and slosh around forever? Or does it magically go away? If I do mount tires again, I need more sealant, right? At some point I imagine the weight of a few sealing jobs could exceed the weight of a tube. Is that crazy talk? On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:10:25 PM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote: On May 21, 5:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for that tip. I'll probably do the wheelbuild and the tire installation at the bike shop where I used to work. That'll give me access to a burly compressor. a compressor definitely helps, but I've had good luck with a track pump and soapy water (rims are UST though, so that probably helped seating). it's a simple process and shouldn't be messy at all if the tire and rim work together. just don't bug out if they don't seal up/ hold pressure right away. If the sidewalls on the b-lines are porous, it might take a day or two for the sealant to do its thing. I can't imagine using tubes again on my MTB. it's just a better way to roll. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/W3NeWh1bfTIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2yO6kCYRAwAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this
[RBW] Re: 57 Romulus anyone?
I sometimes toy with the idea of selling my 57 Romulus, which is a bit large for me. But any such sale would be contingent on finding a 55 Legolas or 55 Romulus. If you have a line on one of those, drop me a line. Aaron On Monday, May 21, 2012 9:27:49 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: Anyone looking to part with same? Thanks! Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lQqlFXOVFC0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless
If this is a stupid question, count me in. I'd like to know more, mostly 'cuz uv goatheads. Can someone with experience itemize the Pro's and Con's? In particular: I used Slime in regular tubes and found it horrible: it would seal most, but not all, goathead punctures; but if a bigger sharpie got into the tube -- say, a nail -- then, watch out: slime spray mess SNAFU. And try cleaning and patching a be-Slimed tube. Some Slime clones are better, but not enough better, for me, anyway. What is required for tubeless? Can I use it with my 44 mm wide SnoCat SLs with 2 dozen cutout holes? See: http://tinyurl.com/chrqaj7 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Stupid (or at least uninformed) question: What's the advantage of tubeless? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New route for today's commute
Obviously, I missed the boat, but what **is** that saddebag? That is bigger than my Hoss!! Looks like the trunk of a 1964 Buick! Cubic inches or litres? http://www.flickr.com/photos/curtisperry/5464649144/ The rest of the bike is nice, too. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: New route for today's commute, winding back and forth over old footbridges across the Brandywine Creek. Abandoned DuPont mill/factory buildings in back ground. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7250981952/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7250980730/in/photostream -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless
I am just getting back into tubeless after a long hiatus, and I am no expert. In the past month I got a new 29er MTB with tubeless wheels (the rims on my old MTB were not tubeless compatible) and I also mounted Hetres on a new wheelset that has Stan's rims using Stan's tape and Stan's sealant. My understanding is that some of the sealant forms a solid layer of latex on the inside of the tire and some stays liquid. Eventually the liquid will evaporate, but it does not leave a heavy lump of latex in the tire in my experience. You may have to add more Stan's to your tires once or twice per year to maintain the liquid flat-sealing component. I think Stan's sealant is latex particles suspended in an ammonia solution with some secret ingredients. I have not had any problems with my tubeless Hetres so far, but I don't have many miles on them yet. One tip for mounting with a floor pump is to try to seat the beads of the tire as peripherally as possible on the shoulders on the rim by pinching and pulling and lifting with your thumbs before you start pumping air through the valve. I am interested in tubeless Pari-Motos since in theory that would maintain the lightweight and supple qualities of the tire while improving flat resistance significantly. However I don't think I can safety try using my new wheelset with sub-350 gram Stan's rims because I have heard they have a 40 PSI upper limit. I am hoping that it may be possible with the new Pacenti or Velocity A23 rims. - David G, Madison WI On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:37 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The thing that I'm not clear on is what actually is happening to the sealant goo? Is it hardening into a rubber coating? Is the entire inside of the tire and rimstrip coated? So when you remove the tire when it's worn out, you are destroying that seal by ripping it apart. What about the puddle of extra sealant at the end? If you leave that pooled in the bottom, does that make an offcenter lump that shakes the workstand when you spin the wheel, same as a reflector? I'd hate that. Or does it stay liquid and slosh around forever? Or does it magically go away? If I do mount tires again, I need more sealant, right? At some point I imagine the weight of a few sealing jobs could exceed the weight of a tube. Is that crazy talk? On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:10:25 PM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote: On May 21, 5:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for that tip. I'll probably do the wheelbuild and the tire installation at the bike shop where I used to work. That'll give me access to a burly compressor. a compressor definitely helps, but I've had good luck with a track pump and soapy water (rims are UST though, so that probably helped seating). it's a simple process and shouldn't be messy at all if the tire and rim work together. just don't bug out if they don't seal up/ hold pressure right away. If the sidewalls on the b-lines are porous, it might take a day or two for the sealant to do its thing. I can't imagine using tubes again on my MTB. it's just a better way to roll. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pedal strike and platform pedals
Thank you Grant. I might be ordering a set of King Grip pedals soon to give them a try -- I did ride them on your Hunqapillar bike the last time I was there, and IIRC they supported my feet well. And in the meantime, I'll keep trying to retrain myself. :-) On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Grant Petersen gep71...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with all...but happen to have micro-knowledge about some particulars. The Grip King pedal has the best clearance of any pedal we sell...was designed to win and does. Much of this is obvioius, but here it is all at once: Pedal clearance is only a function of how far the pedal sticks out (related to crank Q-Factor, of course) crank length pedal cage height bottom bracket height---which itself comes from frame drop and wheel radius (radius minus drop is bb height). The CPSC Consumer Products Safety Commission requires (or used to; I dunno if it's changed) 25-degrees of lean before contact, and we have a spreadsheet that lets us plug in any combination with any of the pedals we offer, and so...a Roll-y Pol-y* tire on an A. Homer Hilsen with 175mm cranks and MKS Touring pedals doesn't quite make it, but once you're up to Jack Brown territory and any pedal other than the Touring, then all's well. But---as everybody has said--it's mostly a matter of learning the limits and pedaling within 'em. On May 19, 2:46 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: So, I've been slowly warming to this idea of using platform pedals. I actually compromised and went half way, using cream colored PowerGrip straps that Rivendell was selling at the time and the MKS touring pedals that they sell. This setup works fairly well for me and I'm starting to prefer it over having to wear dedicated shoes, even though I was wearing Shimano sandals. That said, after years of using tiny little Frog pedals I got accustomed to how much cornering clearance I had and don't remember the last time that I experienced pedal strike [except for one time on my fixed gear]. Now, though, I seem to do it at least once per ride, even on turns that seem like nothing whatsoever! Worse, a few times I've grabbed the toe of my sandal and flipped it down! (I sure hope I don't break a toe or tear my awesome Chaco sandals!) So, now I'm wondering... are there other paltform pedals that give a little more ground clearance? Is it just something I'll have to learn to deal with? Are the King Grips any better [for clearance]? How about the RMX sneaker pedal with its corners rounded off? How long did it take you (if you converted to platforms) to become accustomed to the reduced clearance? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pedal strike and platform pedals
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Grant. I might be ordering a set of King Grip pedals soon to give them a try -- I did ride them on your Hunqapillar bike the last time I was there, and IIRC they supported my feet well. And in the meantime, I'll keep trying to retrain myself. :-) By your, I meant the showroom one... didn't grab your personal bike. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New route for today's commute
Thanks, Patrick. Nuthin' but a Sackville Saddlesack Large. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl.htm. Around 30 liters. It's a great bag if you've got a rear rack. Very stable, HUGE and very usable capacity. The pockets on the front of the bag are readily accessible while riding. Very useful, and built like a brick shoot house. {nice auto spell} Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 5:35 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously, I missed the boat, but what **is** that saddebag? That is bigger than my Hoss!! Looks like the trunk of a 1964 Buick! Cubic inches or litres? http://www.flickr.com/photos/curtisperry/5464649144/ The rest of the bike is nice, too. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: New route for today's commute, winding back and forth over old footbridges across the Brandywine Creek. Abandoned DuPont mill/factory buildings in back ground. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7250981952/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7250980730/in/photostream -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any
[RBW] Re: New build and grease
Phil. Because it's a cool company, and their stuff works. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:33:32 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: I use the Phil grease. I figure I'm not running a shop so I can buy fancy expensive grease. Tried white lithium but it tends to get dry and tacky. Ryan On May 22, 3:44 am, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1QwfCPtkBO8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pedal strike and platform pedals
Rex, I rode on Frogs almost exclusively for the better part of a decade and loved them because they gave my knees lots of freedom while keeping my feet (usually in Keen Commuters) firmly on the pedal, and they allowed me to pedal through fast corners when I felt I wanted or needed to, as when cycling on narrow lanes, roundabouts, etc. After foot surgery I decided it would be wise if I varied my pedal choice. I tried the grip kings for one winter but never really got to liking them. My foot slid around on the pedal in ways that was disconcerting. Then I sprung for a pair of the White Ind. Urban Pedal and have really liked them. They are about 1 narrower than the grip king so provide better corner clearance. I ride them with the Bruce Gordon strapless toe clip and they do a decent job of keeping my feet in place. Two downsides - the BG clips wont feel good with sandals, and the price, which is extravagant. But the pedals are a work of art. BTW, if you order them together from BG he gives a discount, but his large is a little tight for my size 13 New Balance sneaks. Still love the frogs. Michael Michael On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:34:18 PM UTC-4, Rex Kerr wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Grant. I might be ordering a set of King Grip pedals soon to give them a try -- I did ride them on your Hunqapillar bike the last time I was there, and IIRC they supported my feet well. And in the meantime, I'll keep trying to retrain myself. :-) By your, I meant the showroom one... didn't grab your personal bike. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/thvbhz8z0owJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: TRP Brake Levers?
I love them. Thought they looked goofy and gimmicky when I first saw them - something a Klingon would design. I splurged for the drillium version, because the look grew on me. They work great, and are the most comfortable levers I've ever laid my large hands on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KlQ3dsxJsFoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Thinking of switching handlebars on my AHH
Questions summarized without all of the rambling at the end, if you want to just jump to the meat of this long post. :-) When I built up my AHH I was trying to reproduce the feeling of a bike that I'd recently crashed that had been my favorite to date. Unfortunately, I think that I overlooked some important details, that, while I knew about them, weren't prominent enough in my mind. For that reason, I'm having difficulty getting really comfortable on the AHH, so it's time for a change. - On the Schwinn I had used Nashbar Mustache bars. Wanting to recreate the same feeling, I did the same on the AHH. Problem is, I'd forgotten that they didn't have the wider ones in stock when I built the Schwinn, so I bought a wider bar for the AHH, giving me a bigger bar with longer reach. - The AHH has a longer top-tube, by about 1 cm. - The Nitto stem (forget which one, it's the one they used to sell like the Dirt Drop, but with 25.4 mm clamp) has a slightly longer reach than the original stem, plus I'm not really liking the aesthetic. *etc*... all adding up to about 3 or 4 cm further reach, and I had already been stretched to my maximum comfortable position on the Schwinn [I have long legs relative to my torso]. The wider bars also mean that the aft position near the bar-end shifters doesn't raise me up much, doesn't change the angle of my back from the hood position, and seems to compress the area between my shoulders. *So... my questions are:* How many hand positions on the Albatross bar? Are the forward positions on the flats and around the bends usable? Do you find the Albatross bars sufficient for full 100 mile century rides? How much shorter is the reach on the Albatross bar *vs*. the Nashbar mustache bar? Or, alternatively *vs*. the Nitto version, which I know is different, but at least similar. Do you tend to install Albatross bars higher than mustache bars? I already have storage problems at work [no longer able to keep it outside of my cube, now under the raised section of my desk] and can only spare about 1 of additional height. For reference: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexkerr/5934743783/in/photostream http://twowheels.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/0226091728.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thinking of switching handlebars on my AHH
The Albatross is great, good for long rides and will absolutely help if reach is too long (because they don't extend nearly as far) or bars are too low (because they have approx. 2cm of upsweep). Ryan On May 22, 4:04 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Questions summarized without all of the rambling at the end, if you want to just jump to the meat of this long post. :-) When I built up my AHH I was trying to reproduce the feeling of a bike that I'd recently crashed that had been my favorite to date. Unfortunately, I think that I overlooked some important details, that, while I knew about them, weren't prominent enough in my mind. For that reason, I'm having difficulty getting really comfortable on the AHH, so it's time for a change. - On the Schwinn I had used Nashbar Mustache bars. Wanting to recreate the same feeling, I did the same on the AHH. Problem is, I'd forgotten that they didn't have the wider ones in stock when I built the Schwinn, so I bought a wider bar for the AHH, giving me a bigger bar with longer reach. - The AHH has a longer top-tube, by about 1 cm. - The Nitto stem (forget which one, it's the one they used to sell like the Dirt Drop, but with 25.4 mm clamp) has a slightly longer reach than the original stem, plus I'm not really liking the aesthetic. *etc*... all adding up to about 3 or 4 cm further reach, and I had already been stretched to my maximum comfortable position on the Schwinn [I have long legs relative to my torso]. The wider bars also mean that the aft position near the bar-end shifters doesn't raise me up much, doesn't change the angle of my back from the hood position, and seems to compress the area between my shoulders. *So... my questions are:* How many hand positions on the Albatross bar? Are the forward positions on the flats and around the bends usable? Do you find the Albatross bars sufficient for full 100 mile century rides? How much shorter is the reach on the Albatross bar *vs*. the Nashbar mustache bar? Or, alternatively *vs*. the Nitto version, which I know is different, but at least similar. Do you tend to install Albatross bars higher than mustache bars? I already have storage problems at work [no longer able to keep it outside of my cube, now under the raised section of my desk] and can only spare about 1 of additional height. For reference:http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexkerr/5934743783/in/photostreamhttp://twowheels.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/0226091728.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of switching handlebars on my AHH
Bosco Bars, not as pretty but will have more positions and more rise. I have albas and am making the switch. On May 22, 2012 7:07 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: The Albatross is great, good for long rides and will absolutely help if reach is too long (because they don't extend nearly as far) or bars are too low (because they have approx. 2cm of upsweep). Ryan On May 22, 4:04 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Questions summarized without all of the rambling at the end, if you want to just jump to the meat of this long post. :-) When I built up my AHH I was trying to reproduce the feeling of a bike that I'd recently crashed that had been my favorite to date. Unfortunately, I think that I overlooked some important details, that, while I knew about them, weren't prominent enough in my mind. For that reason, I'm having difficulty getting really comfortable on the AHH, so it's time for a change. - On the Schwinn I had used Nashbar Mustache bars. Wanting to recreate the same feeling, I did the same on the AHH. Problem is, I'd forgotten that they didn't have the wider ones in stock when I built the Schwinn, so I bought a wider bar for the AHH, giving me a bigger bar with longer reach. - The AHH has a longer top-tube, by about 1 cm. - The Nitto stem (forget which one, it's the one they used to sell like the Dirt Drop, but with 25.4 mm clamp) has a slightly longer reach than the original stem, plus I'm not really liking the aesthetic. *etc*... all adding up to about 3 or 4 cm further reach, and I had already been stretched to my maximum comfortable position on the Schwinn [I have long legs relative to my torso]. The wider bars also mean that the aft position near the bar-end shifters doesn't raise me up much, doesn't change the angle of my back from the hood position, and seems to compress the area between my shoulders. *So... my questions are:* How many hand positions on the Albatross bar? Are the forward positions on the flats and around the bends usable? Do you find the Albatross bars sufficient for full 100 mile century rides? How much shorter is the reach on the Albatross bar *vs*. the Nashbar mustache bar? Or, alternatively *vs*. the Nitto version, which I know is different, but at least similar. Do you tend to install Albatross bars higher than mustache bars? I already have storage problems at work [no longer able to keep it outside of my cube, now under the raised section of my desk] and can only spare about 1 of additional height. For reference: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexkerr/5934743783/in/photostreamhttp://twowheels.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/0226091728.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless
On May 22, 6:23 pm, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: I am interested in tubeless Pari-Motos since in theory that would maintain the lightweight and supple qualities of the tire while improving flat resistance significantly. However I don't think I can safety try using my new wheelset with sub-350 gram Stan's rims because I have heard they have a 40 PSI upper limit. I am hoping that it may be possible with the new Pacenti or Velocity A23 rims. Let us know how it goes if you try the Pari-Moto tubeless. those have a very thin/supple sidewall and find they can get a little squirrely at lower pressures if pushed hard - I'd be concerned about that tire folding or burping air if I ran it tubeless at a pressure I like. I think I probably just prefer stiffer sidewalls (not necessarily UST stiff, but stiffer) for tubeless applications. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless
On May 22, 4:47 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The highlights according to them have been ride quality, flat resistance and light weight. and traction - with tubeless, you can run very low pressures without the same risk of pinch flats, which gives superior traction on loose, uneven terrain/dirt. that's why it's so popular with mountain bikers. it's also the reason why cyclocrossers love tubulars. but yeah, for road use, ride quality and flat resistance would be the key benefits. I actually just got back from a MTB ride and happened to spray a bit of Stans after clipping a rock. nice little 3mm cut ...sealed right up. neat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New build and grease
What Joe is saying and Tim speaks with the same frame of mind I have. Buy sealed everything and ride the bike. But bottom line is if I'm greasing something it's with Phil grease and as far as I'm concerned it smells like bicycle grease which stinks just as well. Avoid white grease. Grease is not suppose to be white. On May 22, 5:57 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Phil. Because it's a cool company, and their stuff works. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:33:32 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: I use the Phil grease. I figure I'm not running a shop so I can buy fancy expensive grease. Tried white lithium but it tends to get dry and tacky. Ryan On May 22, 3:44 am, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New build and grease
Me, I use cheap auto wheel bearing grease from NAPA or somesuch. Nice 'n' sticky -- and cheap. Stick a cheap hobby paintbrush through a hole in the lid for easy access for threads, nuts and such. Use your finger for larger quantities, or pack into a grease gun. If I buy another Phil lubricant, it will be their Tenacious Oil -- do they still make it? Great for threads, too. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Frank Brose fkbr...@gmail.com wrote: What Joe is saying and Tim speaks with the same frame of mind I have. Buy sealed everything and ride the bike. But bottom line is if I'm greasing something it's with Phil grease and as far as I'm concerned it smells like bicycle grease which stinks just as well. Avoid white grease. Grease is not suppose to be white. On May 22, 5:57 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Phil. Because it's a cool company, and their stuff works. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:33:32 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: I use the Phil grease. I figure I'm not running a shop so I can buy fancy expensive grease. Tried white lithium but it tends to get dry and tacky. Ryan On May 22, 3:44 am, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless
How low can you go with tubeless in 2 tires? I regularly go down to 12 with my Big Apples -- have gone lower inadvertently -- with no pinches or creep. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On May 22, 4:47 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The highlights according to them have been ride quality, flat resistance and light weight. and traction - with tubeless, you can run very low pressures without the same risk of pinch flats, which gives superior traction on loose, uneven terrain/dirt. that's why it's so popular with mountain bikers. it's also the reason why cyclocrossers love tubulars. but yeah, for road use, ride quality and flat resistance would be the key benefits. I actually just got back from a MTB ride and happened to spray a bit of Stans after clipping a rock. nice little 3mm cut ...sealed right up. neat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New build and grease
Many years ago, on the advice of Uncle Al I bought a tube of blue marine wheel bearing grease (like for boat trailer wheel bearings) at a local hardware store. By tube I mean the big cardboard things you can put in calking guns if you want to. It was very economical and has worked very well. On May 22, 4:43 pm, Frank Brose fkbr...@gmail.com wrote: What Joe is saying and Tim speaks with the same frame of mind I have. Buy sealed everything and ride the bike. But bottom line is if I'm greasing something it's with Phil grease and as far as I'm concerned it smells like bicycle grease which stinks just as well. Avoid white grease. Grease is not suppose to be white. On May 22, 5:57 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Phil. Because it's a cool company, and their stuff works. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:33:32 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: I use the Phil grease. I figure I'm not running a shop so I can buy fancy expensive grease. Tried white lithium but it tends to get dry and tacky. Ryan On May 22, 3:44 am, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?
I've got a cheap aluminum rack designed with adjustable struts to clear 29er tires and disk brakes; Sunlite is embossed on the rack platform thus guaranteeing that it was made in Taiwan. I suppose this is adequate -- it is rated to 50 lb -- but I wonder if there exist nicer, chromo racks that will clear 29er tires and fenders; the strut would have to measure ~14.5/37 cm from center of eyelet to underside of platform; perhaps half an inch of fudge factor. (FWIW, the adjustable struts have, I guesstimate, another 2 of extension available -- would clear a Pugsley, etc.) The Tubus Logo would have been fine except for Tubus's unfortunate under-platform strut clamps that crowd tire clearance. Exist there off the shelf racks with 50 lb capacity that have such clearance? I'd pair it with a Tubus Tara. Thanks -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?
Ach du scheisse! I forgot to add that me, *I* don't need a disk-specific rack since Salsa cleverly designed the Fargo's disk mounts to accept standard racks. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:12 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a cheap aluminum rack designed with adjustable struts to clear 29er tires and disk brakes; Sunlite is embossed on the rack platform thus guaranteeing that it was made in Taiwan. I suppose this is adequate -- it is rated to 50 lb -- but I wonder if there exist nicer, chromo racks that will clear 29er tires and fenders; the strut would have to measure ~14.5/37 cm from center of eyelet to underside of platform; perhaps half an inch of fudge factor. (FWIW, the adjustable struts have, I guesstimate, another 2 of extension available -- would clear a Pugsley, etc.) The Tubus Logo would have been fine except for Tubus's unfortunate under-platform strut clamps that crowd tire clearance. Exist there off the shelf racks with 50 lb capacity that have such clearance? I'd pair it with a Tubus Tara. Thanks -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless
On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57:28 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: How low can you go with tubeless in 2 tires? I regularly go down to 12 with my Big Apples -- have gone lower inadvertently -- with no pinches or creep. I go 10 to 15 psi lower with tubeless than tubed, so that should take you down to negative 3 psi. But seriously folks, ride quality, flat resistance, and traction are all better in my experience. 4 years of off-road riding with no flats makes me wish that road tubeless would advance faster than it has. I've never run over a nail, but I've run over plenty of goatheads. The hole seals up around the goathead and you can remove them at your leisure. No pinch flats. There is much less sealant than with slime tubes. I've heard stories of riders hitting big bumps and having the tire burp out sealant, but that's never happened to me. With Stan's, most of the sealant stays liquid, so, in answer to one question, you do not get a lump of congealed goo in the tire. It evaporates eventually, and then you add more sealant. With off-road use, I wear out the tire long before dried sealant adds significant weight. If you bash your way through rock gardens and put a big tear in the sidewall, Stan's won't seal, but if I'm going through terrain like that, I carry a spare tube and a boot. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3uTfZJFVeu8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless
negative 3 psi would be EPIC cushy! On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:16:56 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57:28 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: How low can you go with tubeless in 2 tires? I regularly go down to 12 with my Big Apples -- have gone lower inadvertently -- with no pinches or creep. I go 10 to 15 psi lower with tubeless than tubed, so that should take you down to negative 3 psi. But seriously folks, ride quality, flat resistance, and traction are all better in my experience. 4 years of off-road riding with no flats makes me wish that road tubeless would advance faster than it has. I've never run over a nail, but I've run over plenty of goatheads. The hole seals up around the goathead and you can remove them at your leisure. No pinch flats. There is much less sealant than with slime tubes. I've heard stories of riders hitting big bumps and having the tire burp out sealant, but that's never happened to me. With Stan's, most of the sealant stays liquid, so, in answer to one question, you do not get a lump of congealed goo in the tire. It evaporates eventually, and then you add more sealant. With off-road use, I wear out the tire long before dried sealant adds significant weight. If you bash your way through rock gardens and put a big tear in the sidewall, Stan's won't seal, but if I'm going through terrain like that, I carry a spare tube and a boot. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dZmgBTL7f9gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?
Wouldn't the obvious suggestion around these parts be the Nitto Big Back Rack ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm ) size large? On May 22, 5:14 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Ach du scheisse! I forgot to add that me, *I* don't need a disk-specific rack since Salsa cleverly designed the Fargo's disk mounts to accept standard racks. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:12 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a cheap aluminum rack designed with adjustable struts to clear 29er tires and disk brakes; Sunlite is embossed on the rack platform thus guaranteeing that it was made in Taiwan. I suppose this is adequate -- it is rated to 50 lb -- but I wonder if there exist nicer, chromo racks that will clear 29er tires and fenders; the strut would have to measure ~14.5/37 cm from center of eyelet to underside of platform; perhaps half an inch of fudge factor. (FWIW, the adjustable struts have, I guesstimate, another 2 of extension available -- would clear a Pugsley, etc.) The Tubus Logo would have been fine except for Tubus's unfortunate under-platform strut clamps that crowd tire clearance. Exist there off the shelf racks with 50 lb capacity that have such clearance? I'd pair it with a Tubus Tara. Thanks -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?
I dunno, that's why I asked. Will this thing go to 14.5? And I'd be interested to know of cheaper options -- could get a custom and a half for that price. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:20 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: Wouldn't the obvious suggestion around these parts be the Nitto Big Back Rack ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm ) size large? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?
I'd like the answer to that as well. I found this steel rack that looks promising. http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=146_240products_id=10894zenid=018... Looks like it would work. ~mike On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:12:53 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I've got a cheap aluminum rack designed with adjustable struts to clear 29er tires and disk brakes; Sunlite is embossed on the rack platform thus guaranteeing that it was made in Taiwan. I suppose this is adequate -- it is rated to 50 lb -- but I wonder if there exist nicer, chromo racks that will clear 29er tires and fenders; the strut would have to measure ~14.5/37 cm from center of eyelet to underside of platform; perhaps half an inch of fudge factor. (FWIW, the adjustable struts have, I guesstimate, another 2 of extension available -- would clear a Pugsley, etc.) The Tubus Logo would have been fine except for Tubus's unfortunate under-platform strut clamps that crowd tire clearance. Exist there off the shelf racks with 50 lb capacity that have such clearance? I'd pair it with a Tubus Tara. Thanks -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/99GC3ReXFR4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of switching handlebars on my AHH
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: Bosco Bars, not as pretty but will have more positions and more rise. I have albas and am making the switch. I've been looking at those. I'm not sure, though, whether I want more rise. I do like the wider fore-section though, as it seems that it'd still allow a nice wide grip while down low to avoid the wind. That said, it seems that riding on the bend would also give a nice wide position when stretched out. I rode a bike with Albatross bars while at Rivendell HQ, but don't remember how much space there was to do that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?
The possible problem with a design that clamps the stay struts underneath the platform is that this might crowd the tire even if the platform itself does not. If the strut clamping hardware can clear a 29 tire, fender and 1/2 of air between them, it would go on my very short list. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I'd like the answer to that as well. I found this steel rack that looks promising. http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=146_240products_id=10894zenid=018... Looks like it would work. ~mike On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:12:53 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I've got a cheap aluminum rack designed with adjustable struts to clear 29er tires and disk brakes; Sunlite is embossed on the rack platform thus guaranteeing that it was made in Taiwan. I suppose this is adequate -- it is rated to 50 lb -- but I wonder if there exist nicer, chromo racks that will clear 29er tires and fenders; the strut would have to measure ~14.5/37 cm from center of eyelet to underside of platform; perhaps half an inch of fudge factor. (FWIW, the adjustable struts have, I guesstimate, another 2 of extension available -- would clear a Pugsley, etc.) The Tubus Logo would have been fine except for Tubus's unfortunate under-platform strut clamps that crowd tire clearance. Exist there off the shelf racks with 50 lb capacity that have such clearance? I'd pair it with a Tubus Tara. Thanks -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/99GC3ReXFR4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Rainer Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New route for today's commute
Lovely bike. And pretty cool commute. Your bike might be why I ended up with a SimpleOne. Great setup. If I didn't have way too may bags already, might have purchased the SS Large. Looks to be at least as big as my Baggins Hoss. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:49:44 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: Thanks, Patrick. Nuthin' but a Sackville Saddlesack Large. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl.htm. Around 30 liters. It's a great bag if you've got a rear rack. Very stable, HUGE and very usable capacity. The pockets on the front of the bag are readily accessible while riding. Very useful, and built like a brick shoot house. {nice auto spell} Sent from my iPhone == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kqdAFq-8J3EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of switching handlebars on my AHH
Albas dont have many different positions unfortunatley. I can stretch out on the curves but the middle is too narrow for larger sized hands like mine. So they have maybe 3 real positions that I can reasonably use. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: Bosco Bars, not as pretty but will have more positions and more rise. I have albas and am making the switch. I've been looking at those. I'm not sure, though, whether I want more rise. I do like the wider fore-section though, as it seems that it'd still allow a nice wide grip while down low to avoid the wind. That said, it seems that riding on the bend would also give a nice wide position when stretched out. I rode a bike with Albatross bars while at Rivendell HQ, but don't remember how much space there was to do that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New build and grease
Another vote for either Park or Phil. Whichever is easier to get locally. I've also used marine wheel bearing grease and that works, too. Have even used white grease in the past. That was my least favorite as it didn't seem to last as long. And wasn't as waterproof. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:02:02 PM UTC-5, ted wrote: Many years ago, on the advice of Uncle Al I bought a tube of blue marine wheel bearing grease (like for boat trailer wheel bearings) at a local hardware store. By tube I mean the big cardboard things you can put in calking guns if you want to. It was very economical and has worked very well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/51X0jz6UbygJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58 Blue Rambouillet, $1400 OBO Shipped
Just got home to measure. With the Jack Browns stand over is 83.2 at the center of the top tube so 82.1 with a smaller tire makes sense too. Tim On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: From my documents, for a 58cm ram, so height is 82.1 cm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Nr0hTh2Vs9oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thinking of switching handlebars on my AHH
Rex, I think if you're looking for an uprightish kind of bar with multiple hand positions then you should probably consider the Bosco bars. I had Albatross bars on my commuter for a bit over a year and really liked them. I then switched to the Surly Open Bar which I liked more. The Surly bar also felt stiffer. I tried Moustache bars briefly and they just weren't for me. I'd definitely use Albatross bars over m-bars. Grant posted pictures on the Blug a few post back of his Hilsen with Albatross bars and I gotta say it looks really nice. I'm sure it's a great set-up and since I still have my Albatross bars I'll probably try that set-up myself in the fall or winter. I'm wondering how the Bosco would feel on a Hilsen. I'm sure someone will chime in once they're available. It seems like a nice alternative to the Albatross. One thing about the Albatross though, I once went on a 40 or so mile ride with them and noticed that my hands did feel a little numb. So perhaps the Bosco is the best choice. Call the folks at RBW and talk to them and see what they suggest. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pedal strike and platform pedals
If you get the GK's put some pins into them as a custom option. They really help. I ride a couple different BMX style platforms (with pins) and my feet stick to them just fine. On May 22, 3:33 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Grant. I might be ordering a set of King Grip pedals soon to give them a try -- I did ride them on your Hunqapillar bike the last time I was there, and IIRC they supported my feet well. And in the meantime, I'll keep trying to retrain myself. :-) On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Grant Petersen gep71...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with all...but happen to have micro-knowledge about some particulars. The Grip King pedal has the best clearance of any pedal we sell...was designed to win and does. Much of this is obvioius, but here it is all at once: Pedal clearance is only a function of how far the pedal sticks out (related to crank Q-Factor, of course) crank length pedal cage height bottom bracket height---which itself comes from frame drop and wheel radius (radius minus drop is bb height). The CPSC Consumer Products Safety Commission requires (or used to; I dunno if it's changed) 25-degrees of lean before contact, and we have a spreadsheet that lets us plug in any combination with any of the pedals we offer, and so...a Roll-y Pol-y* tire on an A. Homer Hilsen with 175mm cranks and MKS Touring pedals doesn't quite make it, but once you're up to Jack Brown territory and any pedal other than the Touring, then all's well. But---as everybody has said--it's mostly a matter of learning the limits and pedaling within 'em. On May 19, 2:46 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: So, I've been slowly warming to this idea of using platform pedals. I actually compromised and went half way, using cream colored PowerGrip straps that Rivendell was selling at the time and the MKS touring pedals that they sell. This setup works fairly well for me and I'm starting to prefer it over having to wear dedicated shoes, even though I was wearing Shimano sandals. That said, after years of using tiny little Frog pedals I got accustomed to how much cornering clearance I had and don't remember the last time that I experienced pedal strike [except for one time on my fixed gear]. Now, though, I seem to do it at least once per ride, even on turns that seem like nothing whatsoever! Worse, a few times I've grabbed the toe of my sandal and flipped it down! (I sure hope I don't break a toe or tear my awesome Chaco sandals!) So, now I'm wondering... are there other paltform pedals that give a little more ground clearance? Is it just something I'll have to learn to deal with? Are the King Grips any better [for clearance]? How about the RMX sneaker pedal with its corners rounded off? How long did it take you (if you converted to platforms) to become accustomed to the reduced clearance? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New build and grease
You can use Phil for everything and be just fine. If you want to get obsessive, read on... I particularly like boat trailer wheel bearing grease (the tacky blue stuff) for headsets. Rolling friction isn't an issue there, so a thick, tacky grease that resists water washout is appropriate. If I lived in Seattle I'd use it in hubs too. For those few loose-ball hubs I have left in the fleet I'm currently trying out some Mobil 1 automotive grease, which has a synthetic base (should resist oxidation well, for long life without turning into a tacky varnish), and a nice smooth consistency that I think gives a bit less friction in rolling bearings. Probably not measurable, but what the heck. I haven't seen any negative results so far, and anything from the auto parts store is cheaper than the alternative from a bike shop. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to use the tacky blue grease in a Phil or White Industries freehub. (Yes, I have one of each and while the bearings are sealed the freewheel ratchets do need to be cleaned and lubed occasionally). I think it would be too thick to let the ratchet pawls to work properly. The Mobil 1 grease seems to work fine for those. Phil Tenacious Oil would probably work, too. Any grease is probably OK for stems and seatposts, but in theory anti-seize compound should be better than grease at keeping those non-moving parts from welding together. Whatever you use, it's best not to mix greases in any application. If you are converting to a different grease, clean out all of the old stuff before introducing the new. Different thickeners and additive packages can react chemically and cause big problems. One more thing, I wouldn't use motor oil for lubricating anything that's not a motor (like a bike chain). Wrong additive package entirely. A gear oil with EP additives is a far more appropriate choice. My oil can has Mobil 1 75W-90 in it (left over from my Miata's transmission). I use tiny drops of that on brake pivots and such. Bill Stockton, CA On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pIituMp1yrIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New build and grease
Phil grease is waterproof, which means that the smell lasts on your hands for many washings. My oldest daughter's first impressions of her doting father undoubtedly included the slightly minty smell of Phil grease. Someday when she's being pursued by young men, they'd do well to dab some Phil behind their ears. By the time my next two kids were born, I ran out of Phil and started using Park grease, which if it has any discernible smell, it's a mild one. On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:44:15 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-aTm-N6auhQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Frame bags
Patrick, Thanks for your interest. A bag like what you describe would start at about $180 in tan canvas with one large compartment. I have not done one for a compact frame yet so there would be a bit of back and forth tracing of your internal triangle shape and locating all of your braze ons etc. so that I know where to locate the straps. What size and year fargo is that? If I can find one locally to make a tracing from it would save some time. Also, while I am thinking about how I would go about the design, confirm that you would give up both bottles inside the main triangle. One thing I try to avoid with my bags is going all the way to the bottom bracket and having possible interference with the front derailer. I try to keep the bottom of the bag close to level, and am envisioning a bag that would fill the space of the front triangle from the top of each upper bottle boss up to the top tube. My current lead time on a project like this would probably be 6-8 weeks at best. I am completely buried with my Rambler frame set project as it moves from production samples to production. Although, I like to make time for the bags as it is almost therapeutic to still be making something with my own hands, time is just at an incredible premium. I know you have worked with Ely in the past, and if he is not too swamped I am almost thinking of sharing this project with him. That would of course depend on him wanting the work and your timeline. He has the skills, and I could work through the detailing with him. Just thinking out loud through my finger tips. Think about it a bit, let me know, and I will work it into my schedule. -- Rob Perks oceanaircycles.com On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:48 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Rob: could you design a bag for a very compact frame like the one in the attached photo? Long and skinny is fine as long as it can take 3 very large, rolled up 29er tubes, a tool kit of the same dimensions and a minipump and still have room for a sandwich, crushed nylon windbreaker, etc. I can forego the downtube bottle cages because the Fargo has fork mounts for cages. How much? Thanks. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:31 AM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: I have been a bit out of the loop on the forum stuff lately, but saw the mention and am catching up. You can see the Frame bag I made for my Roadeo paired with a couple of acorn bags here: http://flic.kr/p/91HQ5W I love mine, even though I am biased since I still make them for sale from time to time. I use it, on another bike, almost daily. This style of bag can be very useful on larger frames, moderately so on mediums, and are a significant compromise on the smaller bikes. The biggest factor as mentioned is impaction of the water bottles. This can be alleviated by the use of side loading cages, or just using a bladder with a hose as most bike packing guys do. I prefer to use bottles and refill them from a bladder I store in the bag. Another thing you may not think of is how you transport or store the bike. If you use a rack that cradles the top tube, the bag will be in the way and need to come off. The rubbing of the thighs is controlled by two factors. The overall design of the bag, both width and depth. The depth is an issue because a deep bag will allow you to overstuff it resulting in bulging. I have found that widths in the 1.75-2 range with about 6 depth work well in most applications. Also mentioned was the paint rub and wear from brazeons. I try to mitigate the rub by backing all of my Velcro with either canvas or trim. The more affordable bags usually have raw Velcro’s back side against the frame. Te Velcro plastic is likely close to or harder than the clear coat, and results in wear to the paint Things like bottle bosses or pump nubs will result in wear on the bag. I have been using ballistic nylon for the perimeter of the bag and found that this is a decent solution. There is a good bit of thought that goes into making this style of bag, not to mention the hand work. One bag can be made to fit a narrow range of bike sizes, but in general the range is narrow compared to front or rear bags. Hence, bags that fit well are usually custom, and other bags are fair fit a best for a traditional frame in most cases. Material selection is another issue. I like the untreated canvas for a variety of reasons. If you like the waxed or treated canvas you may want to think about what is in contact with your food or sweaty garments that you may be taking on and off, storing in the bag, and thus transferring to you in small steady amounts. Other bag makers have been working through that by lining their bags. For me, I avoid a design that requires a liner, as I do not feel like carrying a bag in a bag. Also consider the person(s) cutting and sewing the materials
[RBW] FS: Bridgestone and Riv Catalogs, Etc.
Greetings, Annual attempt at clearing out clutter...he says after spending a half hour on ebay. Riv catalogs. #3 (97), Summer/Fall 03, and 2006. Best condition is probably the 97. The 03 has a small hole with tape (half inch) on cover. Got a few other Riv promotional pamphlets I'll include. Bridgestone Bicycle Reviews 1991. Plastic binding/cover of some Bridgestone reviews from various mags. Articles were photocopied. Looks like some type of dealer pamphlet (reviews of a few MB models, RB-1, and CB-0.no X0-1). Also a Bridgestone Owners manual..Guessing from the same era. Still in plastic with retention snaps in inside. Don't know what models this covers. Would prefer to stuff in one envelope. $15 shipped. Rob Markwardt Seattle, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New build and grease
This is great. More than I thought! More than I thought I could ever know about grease! Ciao, JimD On May 22, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Bill M. wrote: You can use Phil for everything and be just fine. If you want to get obsessive, read on... I particularly like boat trailer wheel bearing grease (the tacky blue stuff) for headsets. Rolling friction isn't an issue there, so a thick, tacky grease that resists water washout is appropriate. If I lived in Seattle I'd use it in hubs too. For those few loose-ball hubs I have left in the fleet I'm currently trying out some Mobil 1 automotive grease, which has a synthetic base (should resist oxidation well, for long life without turning into a tacky varnish), and a nice smooth consistency that I think gives a bit less friction in rolling bearings. Probably not measurable, but what the heck. I haven't seen any negative results so far, and anything from the auto parts store is cheaper than the alternative from a bike shop. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to use the tacky blue grease in a Phil or White Industries freehub. (Yes, I have one of each and while the bearings are sealed the freewheel ratchets do need to be cleaned and lubed occasionally). I think it would be too thick to let the ratchet pawls to work properly. The Mobil 1 grease seems to work fine for those. Phil Tenacious Oil would probably work, too. Any grease is probably OK for stems and seatposts, but in theory anti-seize compound should be better than grease at keeping those non-moving parts from welding together. Whatever you use, it's best not to mix greases in any application. If you are converting to a different grease, clean out all of the old stuff before introducing the new. Different thickeners and additive packages can react chemically and cause big problems. One more thing, I wouldn't use motor oil for lubricating anything that's not a motor (like a bike chain). Wrong additive package entirely. A gear oil with EP additives is a far more appropriate choice. My oil can has Mobil 1 75W-90 in it (left over from my Miata's transmission). I use tiny drops of that on brake pivots and such. Bill Stockton, CA On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pIituMp1yrIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New build and grease
Sta-lube boat axle grease... my tub is at least 10 years old. Works like a charm. A greasy charm. Think I bought it based on some comment Gary Fisher wrote. Guess he and Grant can't be wrong. ~mike On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bq2qmJ-DPcQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New build and grease
I have both boat axle and Phil. Depends on what I'm feeling like that day. Between the two you can't go wrong! Use lots and use often!http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/1353848460/ On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: Sta-lube boat axle grease... my tub is at least 10 years old. Works like a charm. A greasy charm. Think I bought it based on some comment Gary Fisher wrote. Guess he and Grant can't be wrong. ~mike On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote: I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the Knothole and Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or another except deraillers. Thanks all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bq2qmJ-DPcQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.