[RBW] Re: Rain Riding and Wood Fenders

2012-05-22 Thread Rob


 *Really* looking nice Brian! Beautiful build.


Rob in Seattle 

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[RBW] New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread Tim
I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm
Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my
girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do
you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks,
etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and
Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that.
BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the
new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want
the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease
right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be
great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or
another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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Re: [RBW] Pari-Motos and flats (was Re: New 650B conversion)

2012-05-22 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 21:30 -0700, Toshi Takeuchi wrote:
 Done because the tire was worn out, or you were done riding
 Pari-Motos?  I guess I'll give them a try and hope for the best...

Done because the tire in question was surprisingly, almost shockingly
thin, and because it was obvious there was something embedded in there
that I was unable to see to remove.  Had there been a significant amount
of tread left it might have been worth going over the tire with a
magnifying glass trying to locate whatever it was, but under the
circumstances clearly not worth the effort.

What I did was buy another Pari Moto, used that for quite a few miles.
Then I was going on a self-supported tour on a crushed limestone rail
trail and I realized the back tire on the bike was getting fairly thin,
so rather than risk punctures on the tour I purchased and installed a
set of Lierres, which are still on the bike.



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Re: [RBW] New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread Tim McNamara


On May 22, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote:

 I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm
 Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my
 girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do
 you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks,
 etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and
 Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that.
 BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the
 new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want
 the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease
 right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be
 great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or
 another except deraillers. Thanks all.

Grease pretty much be grease.  Any automotive, marine or bicycle grease is 
fine.  I use Phil because I have a lot of it.  I do think that white greases 
don't last as long.  

Now that I think of it, I don't grease much stuff any more.  I have sealed 
bearing wheels, BBs, headsets on most of my bikes.  I'd rather ride than 
overhaul my bikes.  In the old days I overhauled my bikes once a year in the 
winter and that was more than often enough.  Now my maintenance schedule is 
replacing the chain when needed and wiping the crud off the frame once in a 
while.

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[RBW] Double FD work with a triple?

2012-05-22 Thread Mike
I'm doing some work on my rando bike, switching from a double (Sugino
46/34) to a triple (46/36/26) and it almost looks like the double FD
(FSA) could shift between all the rings. I may give it a try. I
haven't really messed with it yet. The 107mm BB I was, surprisingly,
able to use with the double seems fine with the triple. Anyone ever do
anything like this. I realize that there may be an issue that comes up
that I haven't anticipated but just figured I'd put it out there.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Double FD work with a triple?

2012-05-22 Thread Joe Broach
I friction shift 26/36/46 with a 105 double. Works fine, although the shift
to/from the granny isn't exactly snappy.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm doing some work on my rando bike, switching from a double (Sugino
 46/34) to a triple (46/36/26) and it almost looks like the double FD
 (FSA) could shift between all the rings. I may give it a try. I
 haven't really messed with it yet. The 107mm BB I was, surprisingly,
 able to use with the double seems fine with the triple. Anyone ever do
 anything like this. I realize that there may be an issue that comes up
 that I haven't anticipated but just figured I'd put it out there.

 --mike

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Re: [RBW] Pari-Motos and flats (was Re: New 650B conversion)

2012-05-22 Thread Taylor
Can you compare the performance of the Lierres to the Pari-Motos or even 
Hetres?

Taylor

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:16:31 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 21:30 -0700, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: 
  Done because the tire was worn out, or you were done riding 
  Pari-Motos?  I guess I'll give them a try and hope for the best... 

 Done because the tire in question was surprisingly, almost shockingly 
 thin, and because it was obvious there was something embedded in there 
 that I was unable to see to remove.  Had there been a significant amount 
 of tread left it might have been worth going over the tire with a 
 magnifying glass trying to locate whatever it was, but under the 
 circumstances clearly not worth the effort. 

 What I did was buy another Pari Moto, used that for quite a few miles. 
 Then I was going on a self-supported tour on a crushed limestone rail 
 trail and I realized the back tire on the bike was getting fairly thin, 
 so rather than risk punctures on the tour I purchased and installed a 
 set of Lierres, which are still on the bike. 





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[RBW] Re: TRP Brake Levers?

2012-05-22 Thread kmcmoobud
Not sure if it matters to you, but if you have smaller hands, they are
great.



On May 21, 4:21 pm, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 The Cane Creek / Tech's have also been redesigned with more ergo feeling
 levers.  The Cane Creek version comes in gum hoods and still about $45 if I
 remember.  But the TRP do look nice.

 Michael







 On Monday, May 21, 2012 4:11:13 PM UTC-4, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote:

  Thanks for all the comments, my main interest was the improved braking
  from the hoods and it sounds like that is their biggest benefit.

  The aesthetic improvement will be appreciated, at least unlike a
  beautiful lugged seatpost these I can see while riding ;-)

  They will go on this weekend!

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58 Blue Rambouillet, $1400 OBO Shipped

2012-05-22 Thread lungimsam
What is the standover height in cm please?

On May 21, 8:38 pm, Tim Whalen whalen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all, after months of normal bike selling indecision and second guessing
 I am putting this Rambouillet up for sale.

 I bought this from the original owner, another list member, but have ended
 up riding only my Roadeo.  I will email you detailed pics if you are
 interested.  Professionally packing and shipping included in the price.

 Mostly Ultegra build with details listed below.  Many new parts as noted,
 rest have normal wear but are fully functional and good for many many more
 miles.

 Ultegra triple crank, 172.5 mm, 48, 42, 28, with Shimano middle ring and
 unknown but good inner and outer chainrings
 Ultegra front and rear Derailleurs
 Shimano HG 27-12 9 speed cassette
 Suntour bar end shifters
 Wheels are Ultegra hubs with 32 spoke Open Pro rims and new Jack Brown
 Green tires - true and fast, I love 'em
 Nitto 65 seatpost
 Nitto Noodles, 46 cm
 Nitto Technomic 5 cm stem
 Shimano brake levers with Tektro cross levers
 New SR Respiro saddle
 New SKS fenders
 MKS GR9 pedals and half toe clips
 New bar tape with gel pads underneath
 I don't know what kind the brakes are, seems to me they are an IRD
 predecessor I got from Rivendell some years back.  They work great.
 Original Harris Cyclery decal.

 Paint is very good with a couple of minor chips/scratches and a small chain
 suck scrape that I can see.  The one flaw this bike has is a shallow dimple
 under the paint in the right side of the top tube.  It came to the original
 owner that way and is a minor cosmetic flaw with no impact on the integrity
 of the tube.  Detailed close ups available.

 Great riding highly versatile bike, as you already know.

 Tim
 Colorado Springs

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[RBW] Re: Double FD work with a triple?

2012-05-22 Thread Mike
Thanks Joe. I couldn't get it to work so I just put on the old 105
triple I have.

As soon as my new SON hub is connected to the light (Edelux) and the
brakes adjusted my rando bike will be complete and ready for its
upcoming 600k and the Cascade 1200k. I wish I could say as much for
the rider...

--mike

On May 22, 8:01 am, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote:
 I friction shift 26/36/46 with a 105 double. Works fine, although the shift
 to/from the granny isn't exactly snappy.

 Best,
 joe broach
 portland, or







 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm doing some work on my rando bike, switching from a double (Sugino
  46/34) to a triple (46/36/26) and it almost looks like the double FD
  (FSA) could shift between all the rings. I may give it a try. I
  haven't really messed with it yet. The 107mm BB I was, surprisingly,
  able to use with the double seems fine with the triple. Anyone ever do
  anything like this. I realize that there may be an issue that comes up
  that I haven't anticipated but just figured I'd put it out there.

  --mike

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Re: [RBW] Pari-Motos and flats (was Re: New 650B conversion)

2012-05-22 Thread NickBull
I've run on Pari-Motos, Hetres, and Soma B-Lines.  I've been riding brevets 
on the Hetres, which are my favorite in terms of road feel and feeling 
fast.  I'll probably run the Hetre's on the 400km and 600km.  But if I end 
up riding a longer ride this year, I'll probably use the Pari-Motos because 
they are a little lighter and a little faster than the Hetre's.  The Soma 
B-Lines are just fine and I use them on training rides or shorter brevets; 
they feel about like Panaracer Pasela's (without Tourguard).

I've had two flats on the 650B tires in around 6000 km.  One was a B-Line 
at the end of a fleche, I was probably just careless and ran through some 
stuff on the shoulder of the road.  The other was a Pari-Moto in the 
pouring rain on the second night of Paris-Brest-Paris and I had pulled off 
onto the shoulder to do something.  Probably got something stuck in the 
tire and flatted about a mile later.  I probably have around 1200 miles on 
the Pari-Motos, about the same on the B-Lines and the rest on the Hetre's.

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:08:58 AM UTC-4, Taylor wrote:

 Can you compare the performance of the Lierres to the Pari-Motos or even 
 Hetres?

 Taylor

 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:16:31 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 21:30 -0700, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: 
  Done because the tire was worn out, or you were done riding 
  Pari-Motos?  I guess I'll give them a try and hope for the best... 

 Done because the tire in question was surprisingly, almost shockingly 
 thin, and because it was obvious there was something embedded in there 
 that I was unable to see to remove.  Had there been a significant amount 
 of tread left it might have been worth going over the tire with a 
 magnifying glass trying to locate whatever it was, but under the 
 circumstances clearly not worth the effort. 

 What I did was buy another Pari Moto, used that for quite a few miles. 
 Then I was going on a self-supported tour on a crushed limestone rail 
 trail and I realized the back tire on the bike was getting fairly thin, 
 so rather than risk punctures on the tour I purchased and installed a 
 set of Lierres, which are still on the bike. 





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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame bags

2012-05-22 Thread rperks


I have been a bit out of the loop on the forum stuff lately, but saw the 
mention and am catching up.  You can see the Frame bag I made for my Roadeo 
paired with a couple of acorn bags here:

*http://flic.kr/p/91HQ5W* http://flic.kr/p/91HQ5W

I love mine, even though I am biased since I still make them for sale from 
time to time.  I use it, on another bike, almost daily.  

 

This style of bag can be very useful on larger frames, moderately so on 
mediums, and are a significant compromise on the smaller bikes.  The 
biggest factor as mentioned is impaction of the water bottles.  This can be 
alleviated by the use of side loading cages, or just using a bladder with a 
hose as most bike packing guys do.  I prefer to use bottles and refill them 
from a bladder I store in the bag.  Another thing you may not think of is 
how you transport or store the bike.  If you use a rack that cradles the 
top tube, the bag will be in the way and need to come off.

 

The rubbing of the thighs is controlled by two factors.  The overall design 
of the bag, both width and depth.  The depth is an issue because a deep bag 
will allow you to overstuff it resulting in bulging.  I have found that 
widths in the 1.75-2 range with about 6 depth work well in most 
applications.

 

Also mentioned was the paint rub and wear from brazeons.  I try to mitigate 
the rub by backing all of my Velcro with either canvas or trim.  The more 
affordable bags usually have raw Velcro’s back side against the frame.  Te 
Velcro plastic is likely close to or harder than the clear coat, and 
results in wear to the paint  Things like bottle bosses or pump nubs will 
result in wear on the bag.  I have been using ballistic nylon for the 
perimeter of the bag and found that this is a decent solution.  

 

There is a good bit of thought that goes into making this style of bag, not 
to mention the hand work.  One bag can be made to fit a narrow range of 
bike sizes, but in general the range is narrow compared to front or rear 
bags.  Hence, bags that fit well are usually custom, and other bags are 
fair fit a best for a traditional frame in most cases.  

 

Material selection is another issue.  I like the untreated canvas for a 
variety of reasons.  If you like the waxed or treated canvas you may want 
to think about what is in contact with your food or sweaty garments that 
you may be taking on and off, storing in the bag, and thus transferring to 
you in small steady amounts.  Other bag makers have been working through 
that by lining their bags.  For me, I avoid a design that requires a liner, 
as I do not feel like carrying a bag in a bag.  Also consider the person(s) 
cutting and sewing the materials and what if any effect the waxes and 
formaldehydes in the canvas may have on them in the long term.  These kind 
of thoughts have led me towards the Xpac laminated materials that are both 
waterproof, durable and light.  I hope to have some samples to show in the 
near future that show off the way modern materials can be combined with 
trims like leather or vinyl in traditional designs to achieve a pleasing 
blend of style and function.

 
You may be asking what is it god for if there is so much trouble in the 
design?  I use mine to hold my GoPro on the pole mount and a long mini pump 
(I hate frame pumps).  I often fit a dozen eggs or a 2.5L platypus bottle 
as need demands.  Anything long and narrow that would stick out of other 
bags.  Overall these end up being more useful than you might think.
 
Rob
-
oceanaircycles.com

On Sunday, May 20, 2012 7:57:22 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: 

 Nice bag. After reading that it does't interfere with your bottles, I 
 thought it might be the thing to use on my Fargo, but I see from the 
 photos that on a 17 (43cm) severely compacted frame, it wouldn't do 
 at all. 

 Must check their other models 

 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 8:11 AM, stevew st...@stevewimberg.com wrote: 
  Hi all, 
  
  Just a few notes on the Revelate Tangle frame bag.  I went ahead and 
  ordered the medium size to go with my 60cm Ram. (shipped to Boston 
  from Alaska in 3 days!)  I went with the medium because I don't need a 
  ton of space for this bag, and I wanted to minimize any difficulty 
  with getting water bottles out of their cages. 
  
  I did the Climb to the Clouds ride up to the top of Mt Wachusett here 
  in MA yesterday, and the bag worked great.  It didn't rub my knees at 
  all, it was easy to get my foodstuffs out of the bag while riding, and 
  I am able to get at both bottles.  Though, the seat tube bottle 
  doesn't go in and out quite as smoothly.  I'm not using the larger 
  size plastic bottles, but smaller aluminum ones.  The strap that 
  connects the front bottom of the bag to the down tube that is just 
  long enough to make the connection. 
  
  I use the Ram mostly for brevets, and got the frame bag to replace an 
  Acorn Handlebar Bag.  The handlebar bag worked well, but I was never a 
  huge fan of how 

Re: [RBW] New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread William
I agree with Tim that for the most part grease is grease.  The 
differentiator for me is smell.  Everything I've ever used that was 
automotive smelled really bad to me.  I'm satisfied with the dark green 
Park brand, which is suspiciously similar to the dark green Phil brand.  

I was not pleased at how the Lanolube that Riv sold seemed to get really 
gummy over time.  I had used it for seatpost and stem installation, and it 
was like tacky glue after 18 months or so.  I'm back to grease in those 
areas.  

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:29:07 AM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:



 On May 22, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote: 

  I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm 
  Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my 
  girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do 
  you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, 
  etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and 
  Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. 
  BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the 
  new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want 
  the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease 
  right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be 
  great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or 
  another except deraillers. Thanks all. 

 Grease pretty much be grease.  Any automotive, marine or bicycle grease 
 is fine.  I use Phil because I have a lot of it.  I do think that white 
 greases don't last as long.   

 Now that I think of it, I don't grease much stuff any more.  I have sealed 
 bearing wheels, BBs, headsets on most of my bikes.  I'd rather ride than 
 overhaul my bikes.  In the old days I overhauled my bikes once a year in 
 the winter and that was more than often enough.  Now my maintenance 
 schedule is replacing the chain when needed and wiping the crud off the 
 frame once in a while. 



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[RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
+1 on the grease is grease front. 


On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote:

 I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm 
 Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my 
 girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do 
 you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, 
 etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and 
 Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. 
 BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the 
 new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want 
 the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease 
 right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be 
 great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or 
 another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread Peter Morgano
I like park grease since it is sold at my local REI...if they sold
something else I would probably just buy that too though park stuff has a
non-automotive smell which is nice.  Nothing has as satisfying of a smell
as frame saver though, I could wear that like cologne, haha.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote:

 +1 on the grease is grease front.


 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote:

 I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm
 Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my
 girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do
 you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks,
 etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and
 Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that.
 BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the
 new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want
 the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease
 right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be
 great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or
 another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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[RBW] Re: Bike to school, work week

2012-05-22 Thread Frank
Cool, Addison. We have a similar thing going up here in Seattle, tying 
together Bike Trains, Middle School programs, Doughnut Rides, Greenways, 
you name it.

http://walkbikeschools.wordpress.com/

The blog is broken down by school, and the folks behind it have started to 
make some real progress. The middle school kids had 56 bikes in the cage on 
May 18th, and Bryant Elementary had 110 on the same day, with the kids all 
meeting at Top Pot doughnuts and riding to school with a Seattle PD Bicycle 
officer escort.

Riv content - there's a Glorius, a Saluki, and an All-arounder in there 
somewhere. 

On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:33:06 PM UTC-7, Addison wrote:

 Thought some might enjoy thisI helped organize an event for bike to 
 school week and we got about 60 kids out on bikes.  Even had a police 
 escort for parts which the kids went crazy for.   

 Riv content, I rode my allrounder and there is a little glimpse of it.   


 http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2012/05/bike-to-work-school-and-fun-wrap-up.html
  

 Regards, 
 Addison 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread Brian Campbell
I too used the Park grease. A tub lasted me 5 years. I built many bikes and 
repacked many wheels. Good stuff.

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:04:26 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:

 I like park grease since it is sold at my local REI...if they sold 
 something else I would probably just buy that too though park stuff has a 
 non-automotive smell which is nice.  Nothing has as satisfying of a smell 
 as frame saver though, I could wear that like cologne, haha. 

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote:

 +1 on the grease is grease front.  


 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote: 

 I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm 
 Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my 
 girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do 
 you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, 
 etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and 
 Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. 
 BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the 
 new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want 
 the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease 
 right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be 
 great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or 
 another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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[RBW] Re: Rain Riding and Wood Fenders

2012-05-22 Thread Allan in Portland
Yes indeed. Congratulations Brian.

-Allan

On Monday, May 21, 2012 11:41:20 PM UTC-7, Rob wrote:

 *Really* looking nice Brian! Beautiful build.


 Rob in Seattle 


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[RBW] Re: Thank you

2012-05-22 Thread islaysteve
Manny, Congratulations on the new bike!  You are an inspiration and I'm so 
glad that got your stolen Riv replaced.  Kudos to Grant and the gang for 
making this happen.  I too look forward to your posts and photos.
 
Is that a 48 Sam?  I recall that you had a 51 Bleriot, which is what I 
have.  I also contemplated getting a 48 Sam, thinking that to be the size 
best for me.  Can you compare the fit between the two bikes?  Any 
difference that you can feel?   Enjoy your bike as only you can!  Cheers, 
Steve
 

 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58 Blue Rambouillet, $1400 OBO Shipped

2012-05-22 Thread Minh
From my documents, for a 58cm ram, so height is 82.1 cm. 

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Re: [RBW] Pari-Motos and flats (was Re: New 650B conversion)

2012-05-22 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 08:08 -0700, Taylor wrote:
 Can you compare the performance of the Lierres to the Pari-Motos or
 even Hetres?

Not really.  Hetres don't fit on the Kogswell, so that comparison is out
(that bike is too different from the MAP for tire comparisons to be
valid) and it's been since before the Mineral WV earthquake that I've
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[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter and/or Front Derailleur Issue(s)

2012-05-22 Thread Lynne Fitz
and finished a 400k on Sunday morning.  Still working perfectly.

On May 18, 2:09 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote:
 My rear Silver shifter was intermittently doing that to me, always, of
 course, at a Really Bad Time.  It was doing this from day 1.  I
 tightened it down.  I tightened it down.  It would still
 intermittently just lose it, even when it was really tight.  Replaced
 the washers.  Same thing.

 I now have a replacement Silver rear shifter (through the seller).
 Rode a century a couple weekends ago, no issues.  I am told it is a
 rare problem, but there you have it.

 Lynne F

 On May 18, 4:24 am, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:







  I use bees wax on my silver bar ends and find I still need to retighten the
  D ring about once a ride, maybe every 20 miles or so.  Has anyone tried
  lock tite?

  michael

  On Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:07:03 PM UTC-4, Noel M. wrote:

   Zack, thank you for your input.  I'll keep that in mind!

   Thank you.

   On Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:49:32 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote:

   and if it still slips, take it apart and put some beeswax on the threaded
   bolt thing.

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[RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread rcnute
I use the Phil grease.  I figure I'm not running a shop so I can buy
fancy expensive grease.  Tried white lithium but it tends to get dry
and tacky.

Ryan

On May 22, 3:44 am, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote:
 I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm
 Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my
 girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do
 you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks,
 etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and
 Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that.
 BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the
 new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want
 the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease
 right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be
 great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or
 another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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[RBW] New route for today's commute

2012-05-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
New route for today's commute, winding back and forth over old footbridges 
across the Brandywine Creek.  Abandoned DuPont mill/factory buildings in back 
ground.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7250981952/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7250980730/in/photostream

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[RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless

2012-05-22 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 21, 5:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for that tip.  I'll probably do the wheelbuild and the tire
 installation at the bike shop where I used to work.  That'll give me access
 to a burly compressor.

a compressor definitely helps, but I've had good luck with a track
pump and soapy water (rims are UST though, so that probably helped
seating).  it's a simple process and shouldn't be messy at all if the
tire and rim work together.  just don't bug out if they don't seal up/
hold pressure right away.  If the sidewalls on the b-lines are porous,
it might take a day or two for the sealant to do its thing.

I can't imagine using tubes again on my MTB.  it's just a better way
to roll.

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[RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless

2012-05-22 Thread William
The thing that I'm not clear on is what actually is happening to the 
sealant goo?  Is it hardening into a rubber coating?  Is the entire inside 
of the tire and rimstrip coated?  So when you remove the tire when it's 
worn out, you are destroying that seal by ripping it apart.  What about the 
puddle of extra sealant at the end?  If you leave that pooled in the 
bottom, does that make an offcenter lump that shakes the workstand when you 
spin the wheel, same as a reflector?  I'd hate that.  Or does it stay 
liquid and slosh around forever?  Or does it magically go away?  If I do 
mount tires again, I need more sealant, right?  At some point I imagine the 
weight of a few sealing jobs could exceed the weight of a tube.  Is that 
crazy talk?

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:10:25 PM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:

 On May 21, 5:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Thanks for that tip.  I'll probably do the wheelbuild and the tire 
  installation at the bike shop where I used to work.  That'll give me 
 access 
  to a burly compressor. 

 a compressor definitely helps, but I've had good luck with a track 
 pump and soapy water (rims are UST though, so that probably helped 
 seating).  it's a simple process and shouldn't be messy at all if the 
 tire and rim work together.  just don't bug out if they don't seal up/ 
 hold pressure right away.  If the sidewalls on the b-lines are porous, 
 it might take a day or two for the sealant to do its thing. 

 I can't imagine using tubes again on my MTB.  it's just a better way 
 to roll.

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RE: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless

2012-05-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Stupid (or at least uninformed) question: What's the advantage of tubeless?


From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:38 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into 
tubeless

The thing that I'm not clear on is what actually is happening to the sealant 
goo?  Is it hardening into a rubber coating?  Is the entire inside of the tire 
and rimstrip coated?  So when you remove the tire when it's worn out, you are 
destroying that seal by ripping it apart.  What about the puddle of extra 
sealant at the end?  If you leave that pooled in the bottom, does that make an 
offcenter lump that shakes the workstand when you spin the wheel, same as a 
reflector?  I'd hate that.  Or does it stay liquid and slosh around forever?  
Or does it magically go away?  If I do mount tires again, I need more sealant, 
right?  At some point I imagine the weight of a few sealing jobs could exceed 
the weight of a tube.  Is that crazy talk?

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:10:25 PM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
On May 21, 5:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for that tip.  I'll probably do the wheelbuild and the tire
 installation at the bike shop where I used to work.  That'll give me access
 to a burly compressor.

a compressor definitely helps, but I've had good luck with a track
pump and soapy water (rims are UST though, so that probably helped
seating).  it's a simple process and shouldn't be messy at all if the
tire and rim work together.  just don't bug out if they don't seal up/
hold pressure right away.  If the sidewalls on the b-lines are porous,
it might take a day or two for the sealant to do its thing.

I can't imagine using tubes again on my MTB.  it's just a better way
to roll.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless

2012-05-22 Thread William
I've had numerous people tell me that once you try tubeless you never go 
back.  The highlights according to them have been ride quality, flat 
resistance and light weight.  I think the theory is your tires are much 
more supple because there's less material holding the air in.  I don't 
quite get where the flat resistance comes from in terms of punctures, 
unless the goo stays gooey and it's kind of a self-sealing thing.  I think 
pinch flats become nearly impossible.  Light weight I think is something 
like 80-100g of savings.  

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:38:57 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  Stupid (or at least uninformed) question: What's the advantage of 
 tubeless?

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 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *William
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:38 PM
 *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a 
 foray into tubeless

 The thing that I'm not clear on is what actually is happening to the 
 sealant goo?  Is it hardening into a rubber coating?  Is the entire inside 
 of the tire and rimstrip coated?  So when you remove the tire when it's 
 worn out, you are destroying that seal by ripping it apart.  What about the 
 puddle of extra sealant at the end?  If you leave that pooled in the 
 bottom, does that make an offcenter lump that shakes the workstand when you 
 spin the wheel, same as a reflector?  I'd hate that.  Or does it stay 
 liquid and slosh around forever?  Or does it magically go away?  If I do 
 mount tires again, I need more sealant, right?  At some point I imagine the 
 weight of a few sealing jobs could exceed the weight of a tube.  Is that 
 crazy talk?

 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:10:25 PM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote: 

 On May 21, 5:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Thanks for that tip.  I'll probably do the wheelbuild and the tire 
  installation at the bike shop where I used to work.  That'll give me 
 access 
  to a burly compressor. 

 a compressor definitely helps, but I've had good luck with a track 
 pump and soapy water (rims are UST though, so that probably helped 
 seating).  it's a simple process and shouldn't be messy at all if the 
 tire and rim work together.  just don't bug out if they don't seal up/ 
 hold pressure right away.  If the sidewalls on the b-lines are porous, 
 it might take a day or two for the sealant to do its thing. 

 I can't imagine using tubes again on my MTB.  it's just a better way 
 to roll.

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[RBW] Re: 57 Romulus anyone?

2012-05-22 Thread Aaron Thomas
I sometimes toy with the idea of selling my 57 Romulus, which is a bit 
large for me. But any such sale would be contingent on finding a 55 Legolas 
or 55 Romulus. If you have a line on one of those, drop me a line.

Aaron

On Monday, May 21, 2012 9:27:49 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote:

 Anyone looking to part with same?  Thanks! 

 Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless

2012-05-22 Thread PATRICK MOORE
If this is a stupid question, count me in. I'd like to know more,
mostly 'cuz uv goatheads. Can someone with experience itemize the
Pro's and Con's?

In particular: I used Slime in regular tubes and found it horrible: it
would seal most, but not all, goathead punctures; but if a bigger
sharpie got into the tube -- say, a nail -- then, watch out: slime
spray mess SNAFU. And try cleaning and patching a be-Slimed tube. Some
Slime clones are better, but not enough better, for me, anyway.

What is required for tubeless? Can I use it with my 44 mm wide SnoCat
SLs with 2 dozen cutout holes? See: http://tinyurl.com/chrqaj7

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J
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 Stupid (or at least uninformed) question: What's the advantage of tubeless?

 

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Re: [RBW] New route for today's commute

2012-05-22 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Obviously, I missed the boat, but what **is** that saddebag? That is
bigger than my Hoss!! Looks like the trunk of a 1964 Buick! Cubic
inches or litres?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/curtisperry/5464649144/

The rest of the bike is nice, too.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J
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 New route for today's commute, winding back and forth over old footbridges
 across the Brandywine Creek.  Abandoned DuPont mill/factory buildings in
 back ground.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7250981952/in/photostream

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7250980730/in/photostream

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Re: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless

2012-05-22 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
I am just getting back into tubeless after a long hiatus, and I am no
expert. In the past month I got a new 29er MTB with tubeless wheels (the
rims on my old MTB were not tubeless compatible) and I also mounted Hetres
on a new wheelset that has Stan's rims using Stan's tape and Stan's
sealant. My understanding is that some of the sealant forms a solid layer
of latex on the inside of the tire and some stays liquid. Eventually the
liquid will evaporate, but it does not leave a heavy lump of latex in the
tire in my experience. You may have to add more Stan's to your tires once
or twice per year to maintain the liquid flat-sealing component. I think
Stan's sealant is latex particles suspended in an ammonia solution with
some secret ingredients.

I have not had any problems with my tubeless Hetres so far, but I don't
have many miles on them yet. One tip for mounting with a floor pump is to
try to seat the beads of the tire as peripherally as possible on the
shoulders on the rim by pinching and pulling and lifting with your thumbs
before you start pumping air through the valve.

I am interested in tubeless Pari-Motos since in theory that would maintain
the lightweight and supple qualities of the tire while improving flat
resistance significantly. However I don't think I can safety try using my
new wheelset with sub-350 gram Stan's rims because I have heard they have a
40 PSI upper limit. I am hoping that it may be possible with the new
Pacenti or Velocity A23 rims.

- David G, Madison WI



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 The thing that I'm not clear on is what actually is happening to the
 sealant goo?  Is it hardening into a rubber coating?  Is the entire inside
 of the tire and rimstrip coated?  So when you remove the tire when it's
 worn out, you are destroying that seal by ripping it apart.  What about the
 puddle of extra sealant at the end?  If you leave that pooled in the
 bottom, does that make an offcenter lump that shakes the workstand when you
 spin the wheel, same as a reflector?  I'd hate that.  Or does it stay
 liquid and slosh around forever?  Or does it magically go away?  If I do
 mount tires again, I need more sealant, right?  At some point I imagine the
 weight of a few sealing jobs could exceed the weight of a tube.  Is that
 crazy talk?


 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:10:25 PM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:

 On May 21, 5:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for that tip.  I'll probably do the wheelbuild and the tire
  installation at the bike shop where I used to work.  That'll give me
 access
  to a burly compressor.

 a compressor definitely helps, but I've had good luck with a track
 pump and soapy water (rims are UST though, so that probably helped
 seating).  it's a simple process and shouldn't be messy at all if the
 tire and rim work together.  just don't bug out if they don't seal up/
 hold pressure right away.  If the sidewalls on the b-lines are porous,
 it might take a day or two for the sealant to do its thing.

 I can't imagine using tubes again on my MTB.  it's just a better way
 to roll.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Pedal strike and platform pedals

2012-05-22 Thread Rex Kerr
Thank you Grant.  I might be ordering a set of King Grip pedals soon to
give them a try -- I did ride them on your Hunqapillar bike the last time I
was there, and IIRC they supported my feet well.  And in the meantime, I'll
keep trying to retrain myself. :-)


On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Grant Petersen gep71...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree with all...but happen to have micro-knowledge about some
 particulars. The Grip King pedal has the best clearance of any pedal
 we sell...was designed to win and does. Much of this is obvioius, but
 here it is all at once: Pedal clearance is only a function of
 how far the pedal sticks out (related to crank Q-Factor, of course)
 crank length
 pedal cage height
 bottom bracket height---which itself comes from frame drop and wheel
 radius (radius minus drop is bb height).

 The CPSC Consumer Products Safety Commission requires (or used to; I
 dunno if it's changed) 25-degrees of lean before contact, and we have
 a spreadsheet that lets us plug in any combination with any of the
 pedals we offer, and so...a Roll-y Pol-y* tire on an A. Homer Hilsen
 with 175mm cranks and MKS Touring pedals doesn't quite make it, but
 once you're up to Jack Brown territory and any pedal other than the
 Touring, then all's well.

 But---as everybody has said--it's mostly a matter of learning the
 limits and pedaling within 'em.

 On May 19, 2:46 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:
  So, I've been slowly warming to this idea of using platform pedals.  I
  actually compromised and went half way, using cream colored PowerGrip
  straps that Rivendell was selling at the time and the MKS touring pedals
  that they sell.  This setup works fairly well for me and I'm starting to
  prefer it over having to wear dedicated shoes, even though I was wearing
  Shimano sandals.  That said, after years of using tiny little Frog
 pedals I
  got accustomed to how much cornering clearance I had and don't remember
 the
  last time that I experienced pedal strike [except for one time on my
 fixed
  gear].  Now, though, I seem to do it at least once per ride, even on
 turns
  that seem like nothing whatsoever!  Worse, a few times I've grabbed the
 toe
  of my sandal and flipped it down! (I sure hope I don't break a toe or
 tear
  my awesome Chaco sandals!)
 
  So, now I'm wondering... are there other paltform pedals that give a
 little
  more ground clearance? Is it just something I'll have to learn to deal
  with?  Are the King Grips any better [for clearance]?  How about the RMX
  sneaker pedal with its corners rounded off?
 
  How long did it take you (if you converted to platforms) to become
  accustomed to the reduced clearance?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pedal strike and platform pedals

2012-05-22 Thread Rex Kerr
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Grant.  I might be ordering a set of King Grip pedals soon to
 give them a try -- I did ride them on your Hunqapillar bike the last time I
 was there, and IIRC they supported my feet well.  And in the meantime, I'll
 keep trying to retrain myself. :-)


By your, I meant the showroom one... didn't grab your personal bike. :-)

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Re: [RBW] New route for today's commute

2012-05-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Thanks, Patrick. 

Nuthin' but a Sackville Saddlesack Large. 
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl.htm. Around 30 liters. It's a great bag 
if you've got a rear rack. Very stable, HUGE and very usable capacity. The 
pockets on the front of the bag are readily accessible while riding. Very 
useful, and built like a brick shoot house. {nice auto spell}
Sent from my iPhone

On May 22, 2012, at 5:35 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Obviously, I missed the boat, but what **is** that saddebag? That is
 bigger than my Hoss!! Looks like the trunk of a 1964 Buick! Cubic
 inches or litres?
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/curtisperry/5464649144/
 
 The rest of the bike is nice, too.
 
 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J
 thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:
 New route for today's commute, winding back and forth over old footbridges
 across the Brandywine Creek.  Abandoned DuPont mill/factory buildings in
 back ground.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7250981952/in/photostream
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7250980730/in/photostream
 
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[RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread Joe Bernard
Phil. Because it's a cool company, and their stuff works.
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
 

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:33:32 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote:

 I use the Phil grease.  I figure I'm not running a shop so I can buy 
 fancy expensive grease.  Tried white lithium but it tends to get dry 
 and tacky. 

 Ryan 

 On May 22, 3:44 am, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote: 
  I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm 
  Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my 
  girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do 
  you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, 
  etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and 
  Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. 
  BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the 
  new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want 
  the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease 
  right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be 
  great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or 
  another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pedal strike and platform pedals

2012-05-22 Thread Michael Hechmer
Rex, I rode on Frogs almost exclusively for the better part of a decade and 
loved them because they gave my knees lots of freedom while keeping my feet 
(usually in Keen Commuters) firmly on the pedal, and they allowed me to 
pedal through fast corners when I felt I wanted or needed to, as when 
cycling on narrow lanes, roundabouts, etc. After foot surgery I decided it 
would be wise if I varied my pedal choice.  I tried the grip kings for one 
winter but never really got to liking them.  My foot slid around on the 
pedal in ways that was disconcerting.  Then I sprung for a pair of the 
White Ind. Urban Pedal and have really liked them.  They are about 1 
narrower than the grip king so provide better corner clearance.  I ride 
them with the Bruce Gordon strapless toe clip and they do a  decent job of 
keeping my feet in place.  Two downsides - the BG clips wont feel good with 
sandals, and the price, which is extravagant.  But the pedals are a work of 
art.  BTW, if you order them together from BG he gives a discount, but his 
large is a little tight for my size 13 New Balance sneaks. 

Still love the frogs.  

Michael

Michael

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:34:18 PM UTC-4, Rex Kerr wrote:

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Grant.  I might be ordering a set of King Grip pedals soon to 
 give them a try -- I did ride them on your Hunqapillar bike the last time I 
 was there, and IIRC they supported my feet well.  And in the meantime, I'll 
 keep trying to retrain myself. :-)
  

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[RBW] Re: TRP Brake Levers?

2012-05-22 Thread Alex Moll
I love them. Thought they looked goofy and gimmicky when I first saw them - 
something a Klingon would design. I splurged for the drillium version, 
because the look grew on me. They work great, and are the most comfortable 
levers I've ever laid my large hands on.

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[RBW] Thinking of switching handlebars on my AHH

2012-05-22 Thread Rex Kerr
Questions summarized without all of the rambling at the end, if you want to
just jump to the meat of this long post. :-)

When I built up my AHH I was trying to reproduce the feeling of a bike that
I'd recently crashed that had been my favorite to date.  Unfortunately, I
think that I overlooked some important details, that, while I knew about
them, weren't prominent enough in my mind.  For that reason, I'm having
difficulty getting really comfortable on the AHH, so it's time for a change.

   - On the Schwinn I had used Nashbar Mustache bars.  Wanting to recreate
   the same feeling, I did the same on the AHH.  Problem is, I'd forgotten
   that they didn't have the wider ones in stock when I built the Schwinn, so
   I bought a wider bar for the AHH, giving me a bigger bar with longer reach.


   - The AHH has a longer top-tube, by about 1 cm.


   - The Nitto stem (forget which one, it's the one they used to sell like
   the Dirt Drop, but with 25.4 mm clamp) has a slightly longer reach than the
   original stem, plus I'm not really liking the aesthetic.

*etc*... all adding up to about 3 or 4 cm further reach, and I had already
been stretched to my maximum comfortable position on the Schwinn [I have
long legs relative to my torso].  The wider bars also mean that the aft
position near the bar-end shifters doesn't raise me up much, doesn't change
the angle of my back from the hood position, and seems to compress the area
between my shoulders.


*So... my questions are:*

How many hand positions on the Albatross bar?  Are the forward positions on
the flats and around the bends usable?

Do you find the Albatross bars sufficient for full 100 mile century rides?

How much shorter is the reach on the Albatross bar *vs*. the
Nashbar mustache bar?  Or, alternatively *vs*. the Nitto version, which I
know is different, but at least similar.

Do you tend to install Albatross bars higher than mustache bars?  I already
have storage problems at work [no longer able to keep it outside of my
cube, now under the raised section of my desk] and can only spare about 1
of additional height.

For reference:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexkerr/5934743783/in/photostream
http://twowheels.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/0226091728.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of switching handlebars on my AHH

2012-05-22 Thread rcnute
The Albatross is great, good for long rides and will absolutely help
if reach is too long (because they don't extend nearly as far) or bars
are too low (because they have approx. 2cm of upsweep).

Ryan

On May 22, 4:04 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Questions summarized without all of the rambling at the end, if you want to
 just jump to the meat of this long post. :-)

 When I built up my AHH I was trying to reproduce the feeling of a bike that
 I'd recently crashed that had been my favorite to date.  Unfortunately, I
 think that I overlooked some important details, that, while I knew about
 them, weren't prominent enough in my mind.  For that reason, I'm having
 difficulty getting really comfortable on the AHH, so it's time for a change.

    - On the Schwinn I had used Nashbar Mustache bars.  Wanting to recreate
    the same feeling, I did the same on the AHH.  Problem is, I'd forgotten
    that they didn't have the wider ones in stock when I built the Schwinn, so
    I bought a wider bar for the AHH, giving me a bigger bar with longer reach.

    - The AHH has a longer top-tube, by about 1 cm.

    - The Nitto stem (forget which one, it's the one they used to sell like
    the Dirt Drop, but with 25.4 mm clamp) has a slightly longer reach than the
    original stem, plus I'm not really liking the aesthetic.

 *etc*... all adding up to about 3 or 4 cm further reach, and I had already
 been stretched to my maximum comfortable position on the Schwinn [I have
 long legs relative to my torso].  The wider bars also mean that the aft
 position near the bar-end shifters doesn't raise me up much, doesn't change
 the angle of my back from the hood position, and seems to compress the area
 between my shoulders.

 *So... my questions are:*

 How many hand positions on the Albatross bar?  Are the forward positions on
 the flats and around the bends usable?

 Do you find the Albatross bars sufficient for full 100 mile century rides?

 How much shorter is the reach on the Albatross bar *vs*. the
 Nashbar mustache bar?  Or, alternatively *vs*. the Nitto version, which I
 know is different, but at least similar.

 Do you tend to install Albatross bars higher than mustache bars?  I already
 have storage problems at work [no longer able to keep it outside of my
 cube, now under the raised section of my desk] and can only spare about 1
 of additional height.

 For 
 reference:http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexkerr/5934743783/in/photostreamhttp://twowheels.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/0226091728.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of switching handlebars on my AHH

2012-05-22 Thread Peter Morgano
Bosco Bars,  not as pretty but will have more positions and more rise.  I
have albas and am making the switch.
On May 22, 2012 7:07 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:

 The Albatross is great, good for long rides and will absolutely help
 if reach is too long (because they don't extend nearly as far) or bars
 are too low (because they have approx. 2cm of upsweep).

 Ryan

 On May 22, 4:04 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:
  Questions summarized without all of the rambling at the end, if you want
 to
  just jump to the meat of this long post. :-)
 
  When I built up my AHH I was trying to reproduce the feeling of a bike
 that
  I'd recently crashed that had been my favorite to date.  Unfortunately, I
  think that I overlooked some important details, that, while I knew about
  them, weren't prominent enough in my mind.  For that reason, I'm having
  difficulty getting really comfortable on the AHH, so it's time for a
 change.
 
 - On the Schwinn I had used Nashbar Mustache bars.  Wanting to
 recreate
 the same feeling, I did the same on the AHH.  Problem is, I'd
 forgotten
 that they didn't have the wider ones in stock when I built the
 Schwinn, so
 I bought a wider bar for the AHH, giving me a bigger bar with longer
 reach.
 
 - The AHH has a longer top-tube, by about 1 cm.
 
 - The Nitto stem (forget which one, it's the one they used to sell
 like
 the Dirt Drop, but with 25.4 mm clamp) has a slightly longer reach
 than the
 original stem, plus I'm not really liking the aesthetic.
 
  *etc*... all adding up to about 3 or 4 cm further reach, and I had
 already
  been stretched to my maximum comfortable position on the Schwinn [I have
  long legs relative to my torso].  The wider bars also mean that the aft
  position near the bar-end shifters doesn't raise me up much, doesn't
 change
  the angle of my back from the hood position, and seems to compress the
 area
  between my shoulders.
 
  *So... my questions are:*
 
  How many hand positions on the Albatross bar?  Are the forward positions
 on
  the flats and around the bends usable?
 
  Do you find the Albatross bars sufficient for full 100 mile century
 rides?
 
  How much shorter is the reach on the Albatross bar *vs*. the
  Nashbar mustache bar?  Or, alternatively *vs*. the Nitto version, which I
  know is different, but at least similar.
 
  Do you tend to install Albatross bars higher than mustache bars?  I
 already
  have storage problems at work [no longer able to keep it outside of my
  cube, now under the raised section of my desk] and can only spare about
 1
  of additional height.
 
  For reference:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexkerr/5934743783/in/photostreamhttp://twowheels.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/0226091728.jpg

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[RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless

2012-05-22 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 22, 6:23 pm, David Yu Greenblatt
david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am interested in tubeless Pari-Motos since in theory that would maintain
 the lightweight and supple qualities of the tire while improving flat
 resistance significantly. However I don't think I can safety try using my
 new wheelset with sub-350 gram Stan's rims because I have heard they have a
 40 PSI upper limit. I am hoping that it may be possible with the new
 Pacenti or Velocity A23 rims.

Let us know how it goes if you try the Pari-Moto tubeless.  those have
a very thin/supple sidewall and find they can get a little squirrely
at lower pressures if pushed hard - I'd be concerned about that tire
folding or burping air if I ran it tubeless at a pressure I like.  I
think I probably just prefer stiffer sidewalls (not necessarily UST
stiff, but stiffer) for tubeless applications.

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[RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless

2012-05-22 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 22, 4:47 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 The highlights according to them have been ride quality, flat
 resistance and light weight.

and traction - with tubeless, you can run very low pressures without
the same risk of pinch flats, which gives superior traction on loose,
uneven terrain/dirt.  that's why it's so popular with mountain bikers.
it's also the reason why cyclocrossers love tubulars.

but yeah, for road use, ride quality and flat resistance would be the
key benefits.

I actually just got back from a MTB ride and happened to spray a bit
of Stans after clipping a rock.  nice little 3mm cut ...sealed right
up.  neat.

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[RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread Frank Brose
What Joe is saying and Tim speaks with the same frame of mind I have.
Buy sealed everything and ride the bike. But bottom line is if I'm
greasing something it's with Phil grease and as far as I'm concerned
it smells like bicycle grease which stinks just as well. Avoid white
grease. Grease is not suppose to be white.

On May 22, 5:57 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Phil. Because it's a cool company, and their stuff works.

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.



 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:33:32 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote:
  I use the Phil grease.  I figure I'm not running a shop so I can buy
  fancy expensive grease.  Tried white lithium but it tends to get dry
  and tacky.

  Ryan

  On May 22, 3:44 am, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote:
   I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm
   Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my
   girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do
   you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks,
   etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and
   Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that.
   BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the
   new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want
   the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease
   right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be
   great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or
   another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Me, I use cheap auto wheel bearing grease from NAPA or somesuch. Nice
'n' sticky -- and cheap. Stick a cheap hobby paintbrush through a hole
in the lid for easy access for threads, nuts and such. Use your finger
for larger quantities, or pack into a grease gun.

If I buy another Phil lubricant, it will be their Tenacious Oil -- do
they still make it? Great for threads, too.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Frank Brose fkbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 What Joe is saying and Tim speaks with the same frame of mind I have.
 Buy sealed everything and ride the bike. But bottom line is if I'm
 greasing something it's with Phil grease and as far as I'm concerned
 it smells like bicycle grease which stinks just as well. Avoid white
 grease. Grease is not suppose to be white.

 On May 22, 5:57 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Phil. Because it's a cool company, and their stuff works.

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.



 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:33:32 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote:
  I use the Phil grease.  I figure I'm not running a shop so I can buy
  fancy expensive grease.  Tried white lithium but it tends to get dry
  and tacky.

  Ryan

  On May 22, 3:44 am, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote:
   I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm
   Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my
   girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do
   you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks,
   etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and
   Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that.
   BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the
   new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want
   the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease
   right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be
   great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or
   another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless

2012-05-22 Thread PATRICK MOORE
How low can you go with tubeless in 2 tires? I regularly go down to
12 with my Big Apples -- have gone lower inadvertently -- with no
pinches or creep.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
 On May 22, 4:47 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 The highlights according to them have been ride quality, flat
 resistance and light weight.

 and traction - with tubeless, you can run very low pressures without
 the same risk of pinch flats, which gives superior traction on loose,
 uneven terrain/dirt.  that's why it's so popular with mountain bikers.
 it's also the reason why cyclocrossers love tubulars.

 but yeah, for road use, ride quality and flat resistance would be the
 key benefits.

 I actually just got back from a MTB ride and happened to spray a bit
 of Stans after clipping a rock.  nice little 3mm cut ...sealed right
 up.  neat.

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[RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread ted
Many years ago, on the advice of Uncle Al I bought a tube of blue
marine wheel bearing grease (like for boat trailer wheel bearings) at
a local hardware store.
By tube I mean the big cardboard things you can put in calking guns if
you want to.
It was very economical and has worked very well.



On May 22, 4:43 pm, Frank Brose fkbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 What Joe is saying and Tim speaks with the same frame of mind I have.
 Buy sealed everything and ride the bike. But bottom line is if I'm
 greasing something it's with Phil grease and as far as I'm concerned
 it smells like bicycle grease which stinks just as well. Avoid white
 grease. Grease is not suppose to be white.

 On May 22, 5:57 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:







  Phil. Because it's a cool company, and their stuff works.

  Joe Bernard
  Vallejo, CA.

  On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:33:32 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote:
   I use the Phil grease.  I figure I'm not running a shop so I can buy
   fancy expensive grease.  Tried white lithium but it tends to get dry
   and tacky.

   Ryan

   On May 22, 3:44 am, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote:
I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm
Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my
girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do
you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks,
etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and
Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that.
BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the
new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want
the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease
right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be
great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or
another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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[RBW] Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?

2012-05-22 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I've got a cheap aluminum rack designed with adjustable struts to
clear 29er tires and disk brakes; Sunlite is embossed on the rack
platform thus guaranteeing that it was made in Taiwan. I suppose this
is adequate -- it is rated to 50 lb -- but I wonder if there exist
nicer, chromo racks that will clear 29er tires and fenders; the strut
would have to measure ~14.5/37 cm from center of eyelet to underside
of platform; perhaps half an inch of fudge factor.

(FWIW, the adjustable struts have, I guesstimate, another 2 of
extension available --  would clear a Pugsley, etc.)

The Tubus Logo would have been fine except for Tubus's unfortunate
under-platform strut clamps that crowd tire clearance.

Exist there off the shelf racks with 50 lb capacity that have such
clearance? I'd pair it with a Tubus Tara.

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[RBW] Re: Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?

2012-05-22 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Ach du scheisse! I forgot to add that me, *I* don't need a
disk-specific rack since Salsa cleverly designed the Fargo's disk
mounts to accept standard racks.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:12 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've got a cheap aluminum rack designed with adjustable struts to
 clear 29er tires and disk brakes; Sunlite is embossed on the rack
 platform thus guaranteeing that it was made in Taiwan. I suppose this
 is adequate -- it is rated to 50 lb -- but I wonder if there exist
 nicer, chromo racks that will clear 29er tires and fenders; the strut
 would have to measure ~14.5/37 cm from center of eyelet to underside
 of platform; perhaps half an inch of fudge factor.

 (FWIW, the adjustable struts have, I guesstimate, another 2 of
 extension available --  would clear a Pugsley, etc.)

 The Tubus Logo would have been fine except for Tubus's unfortunate
 under-platform strut clamps that crowd tire clearance.

 Exist there off the shelf racks with 50 lb capacity that have such
 clearance? I'd pair it with a Tubus Tara.

 Thanks

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Re: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless

2012-05-22 Thread Jim M.
On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57:28 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 How low can you go with tubeless in 2 tires? I regularly go down to 
 12 with my Big Apples -- have gone lower inadvertently -- with no 
 pinches or creep. 

 I go 10 to 15 psi lower with tubeless than tubed, so that should take you 
down to negative 3 psi.

But seriously folks, ride quality, flat resistance, and traction are all 
better in my experience. 4 years of off-road riding with no flats makes me 
wish that road tubeless would advance faster than it has. I've never run 
over a nail, but I've run over plenty of goatheads. The hole seals up 
around the goathead and you can remove them at your leisure. No pinch 
flats. There is much less sealant than with slime tubes. I've heard stories 
of riders hitting big bumps and having the tire burp out sealant, but 
that's never happened to me. With Stan's, most of the sealant stays liquid, 
so, in answer to one question, you do not get a lump of congealed goo in 
the tire. It evaporates eventually, and then you add more sealant. With 
off-road use, I wear out the tire long before dried sealant adds 
significant weight. If you bash your way through rock gardens and put a big 
tear in the sidewall, Stan's won't seal, but if I'm going through terrain 
like that, I carry a spare tube and a boot.

jim m
wc ca

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless

2012-05-22 Thread William
negative 3 psi would be EPIC cushy!

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:16:56 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57:28 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 How low can you go with tubeless in 2 tires? I regularly go down to 
 12 with my Big Apples -- have gone lower inadvertently -- with no 
 pinches or creep. 

 I go 10 to 15 psi lower with tubeless than tubed, so that should take you 
 down to negative 3 psi.

 But seriously folks, ride quality, flat resistance, and traction are all 
 better in my experience. 4 years of off-road riding with no flats makes me 
 wish that road tubeless would advance faster than it has. I've never run 
 over a nail, but I've run over plenty of goatheads. The hole seals up 
 around the goathead and you can remove them at your leisure. No pinch 
 flats. There is much less sealant than with slime tubes. I've heard stories 
 of riders hitting big bumps and having the tire burp out sealant, but 
 that's never happened to me. With Stan's, most of the sealant stays liquid, 
 so, in answer to one question, you do not get a lump of congealed goo in 
 the tire. It evaporates eventually, and then you add more sealant. With 
 off-road use, I wear out the tire long before dried sealant adds 
 significant weight. If you bash your way through rock gardens and put a big 
 tear in the sidewall, Stan's won't seal, but if I'm going through terrain 
 like that, I carry a spare tube and a boot.

 jim m
 wc ca

  


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[RBW] Re: Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?

2012-05-22 Thread ted
Wouldn't the obvious suggestion around these parts be the Nitto Big
Back Rack ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm ) size large?

On May 22, 5:14 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ach du scheisse! I forgot to add that me, *I* don't need a
 disk-specific rack since Salsa cleverly designed the Fargo's disk
 mounts to accept standard racks.









 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:12 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've got a cheap aluminum rack designed with adjustable struts to
  clear 29er tires and disk brakes; Sunlite is embossed on the rack
  platform thus guaranteeing that it was made in Taiwan. I suppose this
  is adequate -- it is rated to 50 lb -- but I wonder if there exist
  nicer, chromo racks that will clear 29er tires and fenders; the strut
  would have to measure ~14.5/37 cm from center of eyelet to underside
  of platform; perhaps half an inch of fudge factor.

  (FWIW, the adjustable struts have, I guesstimate, another 2 of
  extension available --  would clear a Pugsley, etc.)

  The Tubus Logo would have been fine except for Tubus's unfortunate
  under-platform strut clamps that crowd tire clearance.

  Exist there off the shelf racks with 50 lb capacity that have such
  clearance? I'd pair it with a Tubus Tara.

  Thanks

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?

2012-05-22 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I dunno, that's why I asked. Will this thing go to 14.5?

And I'd be interested to know of cheaper options -- could get a custom
and a half for that price.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:20 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:
 Wouldn't the obvious suggestion around these parts be the Nitto Big
 Back Rack ( http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm ) size large?


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[RBW] Re: Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?

2012-05-22 Thread Michael_S
I'd like the answer to that as well. I found this steel rack that looks 
promising.  

http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=146_240products_id=10894zenid=018...
 

Looks like it would work.

~mike

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:12:53 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I've got a cheap aluminum rack designed with adjustable struts to 
 clear 29er tires and disk brakes; Sunlite is embossed on the rack 
 platform thus guaranteeing that it was made in Taiwan. I suppose this 
 is adequate -- it is rated to 50 lb -- but I wonder if there exist 
 nicer, chromo racks that will clear 29er tires and fenders; the strut 
 would have to measure ~14.5/37 cm from center of eyelet to underside 
 of platform; perhaps half an inch of fudge factor. 

 (FWIW, the adjustable struts have, I guesstimate, another 2 of 
 extension available --  would clear a Pugsley, etc.) 

 The Tubus Logo would have been fine except for Tubus's unfortunate 
 under-platform strut clamps that crowd tire clearance. 

 Exist there off the shelf racks with 50 lb capacity that have such 
 clearance? I'd pair it with a Tubus Tara. 

 Thanks 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of switching handlebars on my AHH

2012-05-22 Thread Rex Kerr
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bosco Bars,  not as pretty but will have more positions and more rise.  I
 have albas and am making the switch.


I've been looking at those.  I'm not sure, though, whether I want more
rise.  I do like the wider fore-section though, as it seems that it'd still
allow a nice wide grip while down low to avoid the wind.  That said, it
seems that riding on the bend would also give a nice wide position when
stretched out.  I rode a bike with Albatross bars while at Rivendell HQ,
but don't remember how much space there was to do that.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sturdy rack that will clear 29 tire and fender?

2012-05-22 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The possible problem with a design that clamps the stay struts
underneath the platform is that this might crowd the tire even if the
platform itself does not. If the strut clamping hardware can clear a
29 tire, fender and 1/2 of air between them, it would go on my very
short list.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 I'd like the answer to that as well. I found this steel rack that looks
 promising.

 http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=146_240products_id=10894zenid=018...

 Looks like it would work.

 ~mike

 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:12:53 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I've got a cheap aluminum rack designed with adjustable struts to
 clear 29er tires and disk brakes; Sunlite is embossed on the rack
 platform thus guaranteeing that it was made in Taiwan. I suppose this
 is adequate -- it is rated to 50 lb -- but I wonder if there exist
 nicer, chromo racks that will clear 29er tires and fenders; the strut
 would have to measure ~14.5/37 cm from center of eyelet to underside
 of platform; perhaps half an inch of fudge factor.

 (FWIW, the adjustable struts have, I guesstimate, another 2 of
 extension available --  would clear a Pugsley, etc.)

 The Tubus Logo would have been fine except for Tubus's unfortunate
 under-platform strut clamps that crowd tire clearance.

 Exist there off the shelf racks with 50 lb capacity that have such
 clearance? I'd pair it with a Tubus Tara.

 Thanks

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Re: [RBW] New route for today's commute

2012-05-22 Thread EricP
Lovely bike.  And pretty cool commute.  Your bike might be why I ended up 
with a SimpleOne.  Great setup.  If I didn't have way too may bags already, 
might have purchased the SS Large.  Looks to be at least as big as my 
Baggins Hoss.
 
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:49:44 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

 Thanks, Patrick. 

 Nuthin' but a Sackville Saddlesack Large. 
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl.htm. Around 30 liters. It's a 
 great bag if you've got a rear rack. Very stable, HUGE and very usable 
 capacity. The pockets on the front of the bag are readily accessible while 
 riding. Very useful, and built like a brick shoot house. {nice auto spell} 
 Sent from my iPhone 

  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of switching handlebars on my AHH

2012-05-22 Thread Peter Morgano
Albas dont have many different positions unfortunatley. I can stretch out
on the curves but the middle is too narrow for larger sized hands like
mine. So they have maybe 3 real positions that I can reasonably use.

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bosco Bars,  not as pretty but will have more positions and more rise.  I
 have albas and am making the switch.


 I've been looking at those.  I'm not sure, though, whether I want more
 rise.  I do like the wider fore-section though, as it seems that it'd still
 allow a nice wide grip while down low to avoid the wind.  That said, it
 seems that riding on the bend would also give a nice wide position when
 stretched out.  I rode a bike with Albatross bars while at Rivendell HQ,
 but don't remember how much space there was to do that.

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[RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread EricP
Another vote for either Park or Phil.  Whichever is easier to get locally.  
I've also used marine wheel bearing grease and that works, too.  Have even 
used white grease in the past.  That was my least favorite as it didn't 
seem to last as long.  And wasn't as waterproof.  
 
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
 

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:02:02 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:

 Many years ago, on the advice of Uncle Al I bought a tube of blue 
 marine wheel bearing grease (like for boat trailer wheel bearings) at 
 a local hardware store. 
 By tube I mean the big cardboard things you can put in calking guns if 
 you want to. 
 It was very economical and has worked very well. 





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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58 Blue Rambouillet, $1400 OBO Shipped

2012-05-22 Thread Tim Whalen
Just got home to measure.  With the Jack Browns stand over is 83.2 at the
center of the top tube so 82.1 with a smaller tire makes sense too.
Tim

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 From my documents, for a 58cm ram, so height is 82.1 cm.

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of switching handlebars on my AHH

2012-05-22 Thread Mike
Rex, I think if you're looking for an uprightish kind of bar with
multiple hand positions then you should probably consider the Bosco
bars. I had Albatross bars on my commuter for a bit over a year and
really liked them. I then switched to the Surly Open Bar which I liked
more. The Surly bar also felt stiffer.

I tried Moustache bars briefly and they just weren't for me. I'd
definitely use Albatross bars over m-bars.

Grant posted pictures on the Blug a few post back of his Hilsen with
Albatross bars and I gotta say it looks really nice. I'm sure it's a
great set-up and since I still have my Albatross bars I'll probably
try that set-up myself in the fall or winter. I'm wondering how the
Bosco would feel on a Hilsen. I'm sure someone will chime in once
they're available. It seems like a nice alternative to the Albatross.

One thing about the Albatross though, I once went on a 40 or so mile
ride with them and noticed that my hands did feel a little numb. So
perhaps the Bosco is the best choice. Call the folks at RBW and talk
to them and see what they suggest.

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[RBW] Re: Pedal strike and platform pedals

2012-05-22 Thread charlie
If you get the GK's put some pins into them as a custom option. They
really help. I ride a couple different BMX style platforms (with pins)
and my feet stick to them just fine.

On May 22, 3:33 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you Grant.  I might be ordering a set of King Grip pedals soon to
 give them a try -- I did ride them on your Hunqapillar bike the last time I
 was there, and IIRC they supported my feet well.  And in the meantime, I'll
 keep trying to retrain myself. :-)







 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Grant Petersen gep71...@gmail.com wrote:
  I agree with all...but happen to have micro-knowledge about some
  particulars. The Grip King pedal has the best clearance of any pedal
  we sell...was designed to win and does. Much of this is obvioius, but
  here it is all at once: Pedal clearance is only a function of
  how far the pedal sticks out (related to crank Q-Factor, of course)
  crank length
  pedal cage height
  bottom bracket height---which itself comes from frame drop and wheel
  radius (radius minus drop is bb height).

  The CPSC Consumer Products Safety Commission requires (or used to; I
  dunno if it's changed) 25-degrees of lean before contact, and we have
  a spreadsheet that lets us plug in any combination with any of the
  pedals we offer, and so...a Roll-y Pol-y* tire on an A. Homer Hilsen
  with 175mm cranks and MKS Touring pedals doesn't quite make it, but
  once you're up to Jack Brown territory and any pedal other than the
  Touring, then all's well.

  But---as everybody has said--it's mostly a matter of learning the
  limits and pedaling within 'em.

  On May 19, 2:46 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:
   So, I've been slowly warming to this idea of using platform pedals.  I
   actually compromised and went half way, using cream colored PowerGrip
   straps that Rivendell was selling at the time and the MKS touring pedals
   that they sell.  This setup works fairly well for me and I'm starting to
   prefer it over having to wear dedicated shoes, even though I was wearing
   Shimano sandals.  That said, after years of using tiny little Frog
  pedals I
   got accustomed to how much cornering clearance I had and don't remember
  the
   last time that I experienced pedal strike [except for one time on my
  fixed
   gear].  Now, though, I seem to do it at least once per ride, even on
  turns
   that seem like nothing whatsoever!  Worse, a few times I've grabbed the
  toe
   of my sandal and flipped it down! (I sure hope I don't break a toe or
  tear
   my awesome Chaco sandals!)

   So, now I'm wondering... are there other paltform pedals that give a
  little
   more ground clearance? Is it just something I'll have to learn to deal
   with?  Are the King Grips any better [for clearance]?  How about the RMX
   sneaker pedal with its corners rounded off?

   How long did it take you (if you converted to platforms) to become
   accustomed to the reduced clearance?

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[RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread Bill M.
You can use Phil for everything and be just fine.  If you want to get 
obsessive, read on...

I particularly like boat trailer wheel bearing grease (the tacky blue 
stuff) for headsets.  Rolling friction isn't an issue there, so a thick, 
tacky grease that resists water washout is appropriate. If I lived in 
Seattle I'd use it in hubs too.  

For those few loose-ball hubs I have left in the fleet I'm currently trying 
out some Mobil 1 automotive grease, which has a synthetic base (should 
resist oxidation well, for long life without turning into a tacky varnish), 
and a nice smooth consistency that I think gives a bit less friction in 
rolling bearings.  Probably not measurable, but what the heck.  I haven't 
seen any negative results so far, and anything from the auto parts store is 
cheaper than the alternative from a bike shop.  I'm pretty sure I wouldn't 
want to use the tacky blue grease in a Phil or White Industries freehub.  
(Yes, I have one of each and while the bearings are sealed the freewheel 
ratchets do need to be cleaned and lubed occasionally).  I think it would 
be too thick to let the ratchet pawls to work properly.  The Mobil 1 grease 
seems to work fine for those.  Phil Tenacious Oil would probably work, too.

Any grease is probably OK for stems and seatposts, but in theory anti-seize 
compound should be better than grease at keeping those non-moving parts 
from welding together.

Whatever you use, it's best not to mix greases in any application.  If you 
are converting to a different grease, clean out all of the old stuff before 
introducing the new.  Different thickeners and additive packages can react 
chemically and cause big problems.  

One more thing, I wouldn't use motor oil for lubricating anything that's 
not a motor (like a bike chain).  Wrong additive package entirely.  A gear 
oil with EP additives is a far more appropriate choice.  My oil can has 
Mobil 1 75W-90 in it (left over from my Miata's transmission).  I use tiny 
drops of that on brake pivots and such.  

Bill
Stockton, CA

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote:

 I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm 
 Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my 
 girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do 
 you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, 
 etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and 
 Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. 
 BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the 
 new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want 
 the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease 
 right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be 
 great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or 
 another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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[RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Phil grease is waterproof, which means that the smell lasts on your hands 
for many washings. My oldest daughter's first impressions of her doting 
father undoubtedly included the slightly minty smell of Phil grease. 
Someday when she's being pursued by young men, they'd do well to dab some 
Phil behind their ears. By the time my next two kids were born, I ran out 
of Phil and started using Park grease, which if it has any discernible 
smell, it's a mild one.

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:44:15 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:

 I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm 
 Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my 
 girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do 
 you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, 
 etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and 
 Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. 
 BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the 
 new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want 
 the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease 
 right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be 
 great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or 
 another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame bags

2012-05-22 Thread Robert Perks
Patrick,
Thanks for your interest.

A bag like what you describe would start at about $180 in tan canvas with
one large compartment.  I have not done one for a compact frame yet so
there would be a bit of back and forth tracing of your internal triangle
shape and locating all of your braze ons etc. so that I know where to
locate the straps.  What size and year fargo is that?  If I can find one
locally to make a tracing from it would save some time.

Also, while I am thinking about how I would go about the design, confirm
that you would give up both bottles inside the main triangle.  One thing I
try to avoid with my bags is going all the way to the bottom bracket and
having possible interference with the front derailer.  I try to keep the
bottom of the bag close to level, and am envisioning a bag that would fill
the space of the front triangle from the top of each upper bottle boss up
to the top tube.

My current lead time on a project like this would probably be 6-8 weeks at
best.  I am completely buried with my Rambler frame set project as it moves
from production samples to production.  Although, I like to make time for
the bags as it is almost therapeutic to still be making something with my
own hands,  time is just at an incredible premium.

I know you have worked with Ely in the past, and if he is not too swamped I
am almost thinking of sharing this project with him.  That would of course
depend on him wanting the work and your timeline.  He has the skills, and I
could work through the detailing with him.  Just thinking out loud through
my finger tips.

Think about it a bit, let me know, and I will work it into my schedule.

-- 
Rob Perks
oceanaircycles.com



On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:48 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rob: could you design a bag for a very compact frame like the one in
 the attached photo? Long and skinny is fine as long as it can take 3
 very large, rolled up 29er tubes, a tool kit of the same dimensions
 and a minipump and still have room for a sandwich, crushed nylon
 windbreaker, etc.

 I can forego the downtube bottle cages because the Fargo has fork
 mounts for cages.

 How much?

 Thanks.

 On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:31 AM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:
  I have been a bit out of the loop on the forum stuff lately, but saw the
  mention and am catching up.  You can see the Frame bag I made for my
 Roadeo
  paired with a couple of acorn bags here:
 
  http://flic.kr/p/91HQ5W
 
  I love mine, even though I am biased since I still make them for sale
 from
  time to time.  I use it, on another bike, almost daily.
 
 
 
  This style of bag can be very useful on larger frames, moderately so on
  mediums, and are a significant compromise on the smaller bikes.  The
 biggest
  factor as mentioned is impaction of the water bottles.  This can be
  alleviated by the use of side loading cages, or just using a bladder
 with a
  hose as most bike packing guys do.  I prefer to use bottles and refill
 them
  from a bladder I store in the bag.  Another thing you may not think of is
  how you transport or store the bike.  If you use a rack that cradles the
 top
  tube, the bag will be in the way and need to come off.
 
 
 
  The rubbing of the thighs is controlled by two factors.  The overall
 design
  of the bag, both width and depth.  The depth is an issue because a deep
 bag
  will allow you to overstuff it resulting in bulging.  I have found that
  widths in the 1.75-2 range with about 6 depth work well in most
  applications.
 
 
 
  Also mentioned was the paint rub and wear from brazeons.  I try to
 mitigate
  the rub by backing all of my Velcro with either canvas or trim.  The more
  affordable bags usually have raw Velcro’s back side against the frame.
 Te
  Velcro plastic is likely close to or harder than the clear coat, and
 results
  in wear to the paint  Things like bottle bosses or pump nubs will result
 in
  wear on the bag.  I have been using ballistic nylon for the perimeter of
 the
  bag and found that this is a decent solution.
 
 
 
  There is a good bit of thought that goes into making this style of bag,
 not
  to mention the hand work.  One bag can be made to fit a narrow range of
 bike
  sizes, but in general the range is narrow compared to front or rear bags.
  Hence, bags that fit well are usually custom, and other bags are fair
 fit a
  best for a traditional frame in most cases.
 
 
 
  Material selection is another issue.  I like the untreated canvas for a
  variety of reasons.  If you like the waxed or treated canvas you may
 want to
  think about what is in contact with your food or sweaty garments that you
  may be taking on and off, storing in the bag, and thus transferring to
 you
  in small steady amounts.  Other bag makers have been working through
 that by
  lining their bags.  For me, I avoid a design that requires a liner, as I
 do
  not feel like carrying a bag in a bag.  Also consider the person(s)
 cutting
  and sewing the materials 

[RBW] FS: Bridgestone and Riv Catalogs, Etc.

2012-05-22 Thread rob markwardt
Greetings,
   Annual attempt at clearing out clutter...he says after spending a
half hour on ebay.

  Riv catalogs. #3 (97), Summer/Fall 03, and 2006. Best condition
is probably the 97.  The 03 has a small hole with tape (half inch) on
cover. Got a few other Riv promotional pamphlets I'll include.

Bridgestone Bicycle Reviews 1991.  Plastic binding/cover of some
Bridgestone reviews from various mags.  Articles were photocopied.
Looks like some type of dealer pamphlet (reviews of a few MB models,
RB-1, and CB-0.no X0-1).
Also a Bridgestone Owners manual..Guessing from the same era.  Still
in plastic with retention snaps in inside. Don't know what models this
covers.

Would prefer to stuff in one envelope.  $15 shipped.


Rob Markwardt
Seattle,

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Re: [RBW] New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread jimD
This is great.
More than I thought! More than I thought I could ever know about grease!
Ciao,
JimD
On May 22, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Bill M. wrote:

 You can use Phil for everything and be just fine.  If you want to get 
 obsessive, read on...
 
 I particularly like boat trailer wheel bearing grease (the tacky blue stuff) 
 for headsets.  Rolling friction isn't an issue there, so a thick, tacky 
 grease that resists water washout is appropriate. If I lived in Seattle I'd 
 use it in hubs too.  
 
 For those few loose-ball hubs I have left in the fleet I'm currently trying 
 out some Mobil 1 automotive grease, which has a synthetic base (should resist 
 oxidation well, for long life without turning into a tacky varnish), and a 
 nice smooth consistency that I think gives a bit less friction in rolling 
 bearings.  Probably not measurable, but what the heck.  I haven't seen any 
 negative results so far, and anything from the auto parts store is cheaper 
 than the alternative from a bike shop.  I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to 
 use the tacky blue grease in a Phil or White Industries freehub.  (Yes, I 
 have one of each and while the bearings are sealed the freewheel ratchets do 
 need to be cleaned and lubed occasionally).  I think it would be too thick to 
 let the ratchet pawls to work properly.  The Mobil 1 grease seems to work 
 fine for those.  Phil Tenacious Oil would probably work, too.
 
 Any grease is probably OK for stems and seatposts, but in theory anti-seize 
 compound should be better than grease at keeping those non-moving parts from 
 welding together.
 
 Whatever you use, it's best not to mix greases in any application.  If you 
 are converting to a different grease, clean out all of the old stuff before 
 introducing the new.  Different thickeners and additive packages can react 
 chemically and cause big problems.  
 
 One more thing, I wouldn't use motor oil for lubricating anything that's not 
 a motor (like a bike chain).  Wrong additive package entirely.  A gear oil 
 with EP additives is a far more appropriate choice.  My oil can has Mobil 1 
 75W-90 in it (left over from my Miata's transmission).  I use tiny drops of 
 that on brake pivots and such.  
 
 Bill
 Stockton, CA
 
 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
 I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm 
 Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my 
 girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do 
 you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, 
 etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and 
 Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. 
 BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the 
 new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want 
 the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease 
 right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be 
 great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or 
 another except deraillers. Thanks all.
 
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[RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread Michael_S
Sta-lube boat axle grease... my tub is at least 10 years old.  Works like a 
charm.  A greasy charm.   Think I bought it based on some comment Gary 
Fisher wrote. Guess he and Grant can't be wrong.

~mike

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote:

 I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm 
 Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my 
 girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do 
 you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, 
 etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and 
 Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. 
 BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the 
 new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want 
 the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease 
 right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be 
 great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or 
 another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New build and grease

2012-05-22 Thread cyclotourist
I have both boat axle and Phil. Depends on what I'm feeling like that day.
Between the two you can't go wrong!
Use lots and use often!http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/1353848460/

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 Sta-lube boat axle grease... my tub is at least 10 years old.  Works like
 a charm.  A greasy charm.   Think I bought it based on some comment Gary
 Fisher wrote. Guess he and Grant can't be wrong.

 ~mike


 On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote:

 I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm
 Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my
 girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do
 you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks,
 etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and
 Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that.
 BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the
 new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want
 the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease
 right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be
 great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or
 another except deraillers. Thanks all.

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