Re: [RBW] Re: RivChicaWarrior goes down!
We get a fair amount of chip seal around here for reasons already stated. Fatter tires at lower pressures (see the BQ charts for ideas) are very comfy on them, especially riding a steel or Ti frame, and surefooted as well. Cornering on loose stuff is of course always best done with caution and at a slower speed than usual. To to OP: Glad to hear your spirits are up and healing is ongoing. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:59 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks; weird -- definitely not a NM or Georgia thing. Next thread: widest tarmac expansion cracks? Must be documented. My prizes reach almost 7 inches. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: It's a layer of tar sprayed on the road surface with gravel laid on top of it. It's rolled into the surface by cars and trucks and sometimes heavy machinery. After a few days the loose gravel is swept off. The problem is that the loose gravel is like riding on ball bearings... Tough on single track vehicles. The freeze-thaw issues of winter make this sort of thing necessary or road have to be repaved in 5-10 years. Googling chip seal and looking at the images will show you how it's done. Tim On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:16 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious about this slippery seal coat: is it tar sprayed on gravel? What makes it so slippery? -- soft tar -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: RivChicaWarrior goes down!
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 05:36 -0500, Bruce Herbitter wrote: We get a fair amount of chip seal around here for reasons already stated. Fatter tires at lower pressures (see the BQ charts for ideas) are very comfy on them, especially riding a steel or Ti frame, and surefooted as well. Cornering on loose stuff is of course always best done with caution and at a slower speed than usual. And without a lot of sideways lean. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What's your Rivendell story?
My ageing Miyata 6-10 sport tourer that I bought new in 1982 was starting to complain a bit. Went looking for another steel lugged frame. Saw a Romulus in Pegasus Cycles in Danville, Ca(2003). Asked about it and was told that it was a Rivendell, from just up the road in Walnut Creek. Found the humble Riv HQ and bought an Atlantis. Went through that, a Rambouillet, Quickbeam and Bleriot/Protovelo. Now own a SimpleOne and Rodeo. Love these bikes. Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: To owners of 66cm Quickbeams - You're getting very, very sleepy...
Ok. I'm not going to hyptonize you and force you to sell me your Quickbeam - but - if you're already thinking about selling it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CoXaMTOECLAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: ISO examples and photos of nice city bikes on a budget
Check out Linus -- a friend had one and I thought it was very nice for the money and, if I recall, significantly less than $1,000. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Your bike fits different on different bikes?
My saddle height is measured and the same on all my bikes. Otherwise they vary greatly and are all enjoyable. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: My two bikes are identical but I have multiple handlebar arrangements explicitly designed to give me different ride experiences. All are generally high-bar. But there's high as in a large frame with an extended head tube and max'd out Nitto Bullmoose bar ... and then there's high as in non-moosey Bosco bar on a not quite max'd out Tallux. I love the variety and am convinced that for me 95% of bike comfort for 50-mile-or-less rides is all about where your butt is in relation to the pedals and the wheelbase. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_U1GC3lkCcoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Mystery Bike Update and Question
Good news on the Mystery Bike front -- straightened the bent derailleur hanger and realigned the rear dropouts last night, and I believe I got them both right. And I got to buy a couple of tools! So, on with the build. One question for the group: Which tire fender combo -- brown Delta Cruisers with cream Longboards, or the sturdy Marathons it came with, and fluted VO aluminum fenders? The former looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836932364/in/set-72157630957672582/ The latter like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836930592/in/set-72157630957672582/ And you can sort of see them together here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836887966/in/set-72157630957672582/ First ride tonight! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Mystery Bike Update and Question
Looking good! I must say thay I prefer the former combo to the latter, but either way's a winner. Looking forward to the ride report. Cheers! lyle On 22 August 2012 10:44, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: ** Good news on the Mystery Bike front -- straightened the bent derailleur hanger and realigned the rear dropouts last night, and I believe I got them both right. And I got to buy a couple of tools! So, on with the build. One question for the group: Which tire fender combo -- brown Delta Cruisers with cream Longboards, or the sturdy Marathons it came with, and fluted VO aluminum fenders? The former looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836932364/in/set-72157630957672582/ The latter like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836930592/in/set-72157630957672582/ And you can sort of see them together here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836887966/in/set-72157630957672582/ First ride tonight! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story?
Back in '2002, I was interested in a new touring/commute bike to replace my Specialized road bike and GT MTB. After doing some research on the web, Rivendell kept popping up, went to their website, and liked Grant's story and pitch about lugs and steel, and voila--I ordered my Atlantis. -Steve Seattle On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:06:10 AM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: So how did you originally find out about them, and why/where/how did you get your first Rivendell bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LctbDlocg_AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] RE: Mystery Bike Update and Question
Another vote for Deltas Longboards. I should dress so nice. Marc From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Allingham II, Thomas J [thomas.alling...@skadden.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:44 AM To: 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com' Subject: [RBW] Mystery Bike Update and Question Good news on the Mystery Bike front -- straightened the bent derailleur hanger and realigned the rear dropouts last night, and I believe I got them both right. And I got to buy a couple of tools! So, on with the build. One question for the group: Which tire fender combo -- brown Delta Cruisers with cream Longboards, or the sturdy Marathons it came with, and fluted VO aluminum fenders? The former looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836932364/in/set-72157630957672582/ The latter like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836930592/in/set-72157630957672582/ And you can sort of see them together here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836887966/in/set-72157630957672582/ First ride tonight! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Your bike fits different on different bikes?
where your butt is in relation to the pedals and the wheelbase. How so? I am very curious about this as I am trying to figure this out for my own setup. Thanks for any advice/ideas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Z2Zl_u-rAroJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question
I'm more of a black chrome guy. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:03:04 AM UTC-7, Mayfly wrote: Another vote for Deltas Longboards. I should dress so nice. Marc From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [ rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] on behalf of Allingham II, Thomas J [thomas.a...@skadden.com javascript:] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:44 AM To: 'rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:' Subject: [RBW] Mystery Bike Update and Question Good news on the Mystery Bike front -- straightened the bent derailleur hanger and realigned the rear dropouts last night, and I believe I got them both right. And I got to buy a couple of tools! So, on with the build. One question for the group: Which tire fender combo -- brown Delta Cruisers with cream Longboards, or the sturdy Marathons it came with, and fluted VO aluminum fenders? The former looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836932364/in/set-72157630957672582/ The latter like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836930592/in/set-72157630957672582/ And you can sort of see them together here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836887966/in/set-72157630957672582/ First ride tonight! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8rAgrMeRX58J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question
Man that is one sweet bike. I know IGH wheels arent really Grant's thing but this bike is the perfect setup for a Rohloff/Alfine hub setup and all day riding. I wonder when us mere mortals will get a crack at this bike? Should I start saving for my B-day present in July? Oh, and I like the delta cruiser setup, I am just a fan of colored tires, breaks up some of the color on the frame and gives it a fun look. Cant wait for the ride reports! On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more of a black chrome guy. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:03:04 AM UTC-7, Mayfly wrote: Another vote for Deltas Longboards. I should dress so nice. Marc __**__ From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com [rbw-owne...@**googlegroups.com] on behalf of Allingham II, Thomas J [thomas.a...@skadden.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:44 AM To: 'rbw-owne...@**googlegroups.com' Subject: [RBW] Mystery Bike Update and Question Good news on the Mystery Bike front -- straightened the bent derailleur hanger and realigned the rear dropouts last night, and I believe I got them both right. And I got to buy a couple of tools! So, on with the build. One question for the group: Which tire fender combo -- brown Delta Cruisers with cream Longboards, or the sturdy Marathons it came with, and fluted VO aluminum fenders? The former looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**37542512@N04/7836932364/in/** set-72157630957672582/http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836932364/in/set-72157630957672582/ The latter like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**37542512@N04/7836930592/in/** set-72157630957672582/http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836930592/in/set-72157630957672582/ And you can sort of see them together here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**37542512@N04/7836887966/in/** set-72157630957672582/http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836887966/in/set-72157630957672582/ First ride tonight! --**--**-- ** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. ** ** This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. ** ==**==**== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8rAgrMeRX58J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Your bike fits different on different bikes?
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:10 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: where your butt is in relation to the pedals and the wheelbase. How so? I am very curious about this as I am trying to figure this out for my own setup. Thanks for any advice/ideas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Z2Zl_u-rAroJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: To owners of 66cm Quickbeams - You're getting very, very sleepy...
... and to the owners of a 68cm (Quickbeam or Bombadil) I'm also asking you to sell it to me! :-) On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:37:32 AM UTC-7, Cycletex wrote: Ok. I'm not going to hyptonize you and force you to sell me your Quickbeam - but - if you're already thinking about selling it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tIeAAMGDfk4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] In case it's not already old news: Grant's book on (in?) boston.com
Not to drag this out much more, but for the record: Thanks, Leslie; I appreciate the vote of confidence. FWIW, I left the boblist because the moderators seemed to be getting too picky, the last straw being the banning of my Ken Rogers trike as a subject. I seemed to have missed some hullaballoo on that list that followed. I will resolutely keep On Topic here, tho' one man's On Topic may be another man's delete me! cue. Over and definitely out on this one. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] FWIW, I thought things got nasty on iBOB when it shouldn't have; IMHO, Patrick should feel welcome here, w/o being second-guessed on intentions... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question
What about a set of Soma New Xpress 700x35c tires in the terracotta/skinwall color scheme? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0k1q8gWH1e8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question
Interesting. Do you know what they actually measure on a Velocity Synergy rim? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scot Brooks Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:15 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question What about a set of Soma New Xpress 700x35c tires in the terracotta/skinwall color scheme? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0k1q8gWH1e8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another huge platform pedal. Love the platforms
NICE!!! I may need a set of those... And you're right... those DX pedals were (ARE) the bee's knees... On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:07:02 PM UTC-4, William wrote: I just saw this tweet from Velo Orange for a new platform pedal that looks pretty swank https://twitter.com/Velo_Orange/status/237971454694678528/photo/1 Also, on my recently refurbished 1985 Stumpjumper, I'm LOVING the Shimano DX pedals. They did it right, way back then! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/to3VvhrF9z4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What's your Rivendell story?
I got back into bicycling as I retired, bought a racy steel bike (Specialized Allez Steel) which I like and but then discovered the ECO Velo site where I first saw the Rivendell Sam Hillborne and knew what I really wanted and how I wanted to ride. I do lament the loss of the Eco Velo site. David On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I knew of Rivendell long before I bought my first Riv bicycle, but my first direct experience was purchasing a Quickbeam for the 2006 Big Fix cross-country fixed gear ride. I was looking for a bike that would be comfortable for multiple long days in the saddle (1,760 miles from California to Kansas in 14 days), and the Quickbeam exceeded my expectations. We (the bike and I) went on to ride Paris-Brest-Paris in 2007, and many brevets, centuries, and double centuries. It's a marvelous bike that never fails to draw appreciative comments from other riders. --Eric N On Aug 21, 2012, at 8:06 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: So how did you originally find out about them, and why/where/how did you get your first Rivendell bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/og7N-tA2hBgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fitting my SimpleOne not so simple
Have you tried different bars? I have a Nitto Torsion bar, a flat bar with a little backsweep (made for Surly) on my Simple One (58), and I really enjoy the way that it rides. I may narrow it a little at some point, but the handling and comfort are excellent as is. On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:41:38 AM UTC-7, Matt wrote: Hello Rivers, I'm running out of ideas, so wondered about soliciting some brainstorming and help. In the spring, I bought one of the last 62cm SimpleOne's on Closeout. It is lovely, but I'm having a hell of a time getting it to fit right. Here it ishttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=372497459468367set=a.371847872866659.105177.11243471869type=3theater, as originally set up fixed at ~63 gear inches with a 120mm Nitto Tech Deluxe stem, 48cm Noodle bars, Nitto 83 seat post, and Brooks B17 saddle. I'm 6'2 tall, 185lbs, with a PBH of ~90cm. No matter what adjustments I've made, I can't get my hands and arms to feel comfortable on the bicycle. I know I like the vast majority of my weight on the saddle and away from my hands, so have put the saddle as far back over the rear wheel as the post will allow and have tried putting the handlebars up higher as well. Recently, I changed out the 120mm stem for a 100mm Tallux, hoping it would move my centre of mass rearward, but my hands, arms and upper body still feel propped' on the bicycle. Despite the marked up-tilt on my saddle, my behind still seems to slide forward as well. Have others experienced something similar? What advice might you offer in adjusting the bike to fit me better? Is it more realistic to give up and trade the SO for a Hilborne with it's nice lax 71.5 degree seat tube angle to put my weight where I want it? Thanks in advance, Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/k0uBZPIu3v0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story?
I guess I'm really the new kid on the block. As a kid I had a series of cheap dept store bikes and a couple that my dad built up from frames and spare parts. I even had a Schwinn Stingray type bike but it was stolen, along with every other bike I owned up to that point. As I got a little older I got a generic 10-speed from K-Mart and rode it until the cassette fell off mid-ride and my dad took it back. The last bike I had was my dad's old, completely beat up 3-speed. I have no idea what brand it was but it had the black/white color scheme of the cheap Raleighs. Then when I turned 14 I got a motorcycle. Flash-forward to 1994 and I somehow conceived the idea that I wanted a bicycle. I did a lot of research and learned there were three basic types of bikes: road, mountain and hybrid. The hybrids fit what I wanted with their upright riding positions, wider tires, wide range of gearing and overall versatiity. I then began researching brands and settled on a Trek 730, which I bought in 1995. I rode that bike until 2007 when I upgrade to an aluminum Trek FX series bike. Last November I was asking some biking questions on a completely non-biking forum and was directed to RBW's website by a member, specifically, Grant's The Big Picture article. I found much of what Grant said in that article to be in line with what I like in a bike so I started reading more of his philosophy and ideas. Then I actually started looking at photos of Rivendell bicycles and I was floored!! They were easily some of the most gorgeous bicycles I'd ever seen. After a couple of months of drooling over their bikes, I e-mailed Grant with a question about which bike he would recommend for me and told him my circumstances. I'm sure everyone here knows about Grant's desire to help others and his generosity. He made a small gesture to my circumstances and then a rather large one! I was flabbergasted that someone running a small business would be willing to offer what he did, just in order to help someone. So, not only do I love the looks of their bikes, I'm a big fan of Grant Peterson, personally. I forgot to mention that after discovering Rivendell spent three months looking for another steel bike and ended up with the same make, model and year as I'd had earlier, only one size bigger. When my wife and I got out to California, I look forward to visiting Riv headquarters and I really want to ride a Hunqapillar. That's the bike Grant recommended for me and it's the bike that best fits my particular riding needs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qEeB9WBJXDcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Longboard fender rub
I experience annoying rubbing near the bottom of the fender when going over rough pavement, gravel, etc. Seems that there is not a lot of torsional rigidity in these fenders. I have adjusted several times. I run these fenders on a 60cm Sam with Pasella 35C tires. Anyone else out there experience the same thing? Any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kjnfPyRTMLkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question
My vote is for the metal fenders. If you go cream fenders u think brown tires would be too much. So why not go for cell fenders plus marathon supremes. And if you change your mind about the marathons sell them to me! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rW504NByRvgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question
Pudge, I don't have an accurate way to measure them, but I just put a set on my SH last night. Definitely noticeably smaller and lighter (folding bead, so it makes sense) than the 38 marathons, but bigger than the 35 marathon racers I have. I'll ride the bike tonight and let you know how they feel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4iQdGjLB7rMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question
Simple cheap vernier calipers can be got at your hardware store for much less than $10. You'll use them constantly. On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:32:42 AM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: Pudge, I don't have an accurate way to measure them, but I just put a set on my SH last night. Definitely noticeably smaller and lighter (folding bead, so it makes sense) than the 38 marathons, but bigger than the 35 marathon racers I have. I'll ride the bike tonight and let you know how they feel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UB9YbPcz2R0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RivChicaWarrior goes down!
Sorry to hear this! I had a minor bout of road rash last week while on the gravel rail-to-trail John Wayne Trail. (Enough already, with those pandas while riding!) If you can get a hold of it, Savlon is amazing. http://www.savlon.co.uk/products/antiseptic_cream.html Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lud8V73BOdsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Riders Brooks Saddle
That's pretty sweet. I'd be in, depending on price. Rob in Seattle On Monday, August 20, 2012 9:53:46 AM UTC-7, Marty wrote: Came across this by accident today, and couldn't help but think it would be nice to have one. Minimum order mandate from Brooks I suppose... http://www.flickr.com/photos/8729526@N02/7635118768/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FVyzwWmDrLEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question
I prefer the fluted metal fenders and the Marathons that are on there. That said, I think you should buy any and every pair of tires that catch your eye. Of the 6 bikes I currently have (7 if you include the tandem), all but one of them have multiple tire options on the shelf. I virtually never buy tires to put on a bike. I buy tires to put on the shelf. Then, when a bike needs tires, I go shopping on the shelf. :) On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:44:44 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: Good news on the Mystery Bike front -- straightened the bent derailleur hanger and realigned the rear dropouts last night, and I believe I got them both right. And I got to buy a couple of tools! So, on with the build. One question for the group: Which tire fender combo -- brown Delta Cruisers with cream Longboards, or the sturdy Marathons it came with, and fluted VO aluminum fenders? The former looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836932364/in/set-72157630957672582/ The latter like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836930592/in/set-72157630957672582/ And you can sort of see them together here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836887966/in/set-72157630957672582/ First ride tonight! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qPtFA9JB7doJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thinking of going with a raw clear powdercoat
I have a sand-blasted clear coated protovelo and I simply love it. I think I got the frame in 2008 and built it up in 2009. Since then, it's been my most go-to ride and has done modest service in my winter commuting here in Minneapolis (meaning snow). There have been no problems with rust and any chipping has been less than the paint on my Saluki. The brazing at the lugs looks like gold pin-striping. Hvae no idea about taking paint off and then clear-coating; others on the list are are helpful on that end. But I just wanted to say I really love it. liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FRPnWwDTUqoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question
Indeed! Having calipers handy helps to save you from the non-Nitto seatpost that is labeled 27.2 but in actuality is 27.1. That's happened to me. It was an American Classic. On Aug 22, 2012, at 10:51 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Simple cheap vernier calipers can be got at your hardware store for much less than $10. You'll use them constantly. On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:32:42 AM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: Pudge, I don't have an accurate way to measure them, but I just put a set on my SH last night. Definitely noticeably smaller and lighter (folding bead, so it makes sense) than the 38 marathons, but bigger than the 35 marathon racers I have. I'll ride the bike tonight and let you know how they feel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UB9YbPcz2R0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Longboard fender rub
For the front fender, try the shorter mudflap that Rivendell sells. That cured the problem on my bike. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On 8/22/12, john johnco...@comcast.net wrote: I experience annoying rubbing near the bottom of the fender when going over rough pavement, gravel, etc. Seems that there is not a lot of torsional rigidity in these fenders. I have adjusted several times. I run these fenders on a 60cm Sam with Pasella 35C tires. Anyone else out there experience the same thing? Any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kjnfPyRTMLkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: ISO examples and photos of nice city bikes on a budget
If she had someone to help source and build it out -- customizing a UJB mixte can work out. We did that for my wife's bike years ago and it was well under $1000. http://johndogfood.com/john/lizafuji.html I don't remember the itemized list, but the original bike (fully built up) was $50. The big money item was a new wheelset with Nexus hub -- otherwise, pretty standard stuff. I'm guessing it all came in for around $600. She later 650b'ized it and it was way better: http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/2009/02/lizas-650bd-fuji.html On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:12:57 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: A friend wants to take up commuting to her job at Intel, some 4 miles from her house in Rio Rancho: rolling terrain with 200-300 feet of climbing (I estimate) between Intel and her house. Mid '50s, hasn't ridden in five or six years, has residual car accident neck injury that requires an upright position. She mistakenly bought a $150 POC (technical term) comfort bike that has never been satisfactory and which I persuaded her was not worth attempting to fix or upgrade. Her budget is $1,000 or less, and I believe that for such money she can find a decent city bike with fenders, chain guard, good rack, dyno lights, wide range hub gear -- not non-negotiable, tho' thought-proof shifting is, mattress saddle and decent wheels. Tires: she won't fix flats, so it's either thorn proof tubes or something like an Armadillo if the Armadillo or substitute is proof against goatheads. I guess I can use the local system which consists in cutting the beads off an old tire and using the remaining casing as a tire liner. Although she has owned, apparently, at least one decent Trek, she is entirely ignorant of what to buy -- her last attempt resulted in that Big 5 $150 POS/POC -- so it looks as if I can set the parameters and standards (!!!) and my little mind says city bike or converted UJB or touring bike, and not converted mountain bike. I'd like to see any of y'all's such examples or near examples, including photos. I've seen some very nice modern, aluminum-framed city bikes -- Amersterdams, a very nice Specialized Sports clone, etc. -- but I'm sure y'all have built up others on other plans. Please give total budget for your build, too. I am afraid that she can't afford a Rivendell, but I'd like to get her something Rivendellianesque. Thanks. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4d5PiJzmCbYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story?
Beats the crap out of me! I think I was dreaming and surfing about a custom (in the seventies, I dreamed of a Bayliss frame). That led to a bookmark on my browser years ago, years of obsessive browsing, one decisionhttp://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2010/12/elves-of-rivendell-are-delivering-for.html after anotherhttp://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2011/02/me-and-mixte.html, a Hunqapillar and Hilborne in the garage, traveling across country to meet like minded crazies. Yeah, it's good. Marc On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:06:10 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: So how did you originally find out about them, and why/where/how did you get your first Rivendell bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PwBM6TIzHn8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story?
The Like-Minded Crazies (An alternate name for The Rivendell Owners Bunch) Dat's Us! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Marc Irwin [irwin7...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:50 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story? Beats the crap out of me! I think I was dreaming and surfing about a custom (in the seventies, I dreamed of a Bayliss frame). That led to a bookmark on my browser years ago, years of obsessive browsing, one decisionhttp://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2010/12/elves-of-rivendell-are-delivering-for.html after anotherhttp://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2011/02/me-and-mixte.html, a Hunqapillar and Hilborne in the garage, traveling across country to meet like minded crazies. Yeah, it's good. Marc On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:06:10 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: So how did you originally find out about them, and why/where/how did you get your first Rivendell bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PwBM6TIzHn8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story?
In my adult years, I've always ridden steel 700c bikes, and although I looked at Rivendell for a while, I didn't want to plunge into 650b bikes, which are the right size for my PBH. After a crash caused by cracked roads led to the death of a fellow local rider, I decided to ride road bikes with a minimum of 32mm tires. That decision led to my purchase of a used Rambouillet, which I set up with 32mm Paselas. I loved that ride and took the plunge on a new AHH 650b with 38mm Pari Moto tires. I love that bike, and am in the process of converting all my 700c bikes to 650b (other than the Ram). My Surly Pacer did great, and next is the old Columbus steel lugged Bianchi. Someday I hope to complete my 650b stable with a touring Bombadil when my kids grow up and can ride their own bikes. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Riders Brooks Saddle
Yep. Depends on price, but I'd definitely consider it. On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Rob robha...@gmail.com wrote: That's pretty sweet. I'd be in, depending on price. Rob in Seattle On Monday, August 20, 2012 9:53:46 AM UTC-7, Marty wrote: Came across this by accident today, and couldn't help but think it would be nice to have one. Minimum order mandate from Brooks I suppose... http://www.flickr.com/photos/**8729526@N02/7635118768/in/**photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/8729526@N02/7635118768/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FVyzwWmDrLEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story?
Here is mine: 1990-1991: everyone in my circle of friends started noticing Bstone mountain bikes. I was riding my cheap GT Outpost at the time. Bridgestone's adherance to smart parts and their lovely riding and climbing geometry offroad was becoming known to us as each of us started buying one. (Eli: 1990 MB-2, Jay: 1990 MB-4, Steve: 1991 MB-2, my brother Dave: 1991 MB-3, Bill (who had money): 1991 MB-1.) I wasn't serious about getting one until my brother showed me the ad for the 1991 Red MB-4 made in Japan with a fully lugged Ritchey frame - such quality at the budget end! The sensibility of the bike and the ad hooked me, as did the the page for it in the catalog: We LIKE this bike. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1991/pages/bridgestone-1991-16.htm It cost $550 and was the first big thing I ever bought with my own money. I was in college at the time. I love that bike. I still ride it as my main mountain bike even though I have a newer Niner. I got into reading all the Bridgestone catalogs over the next couple of years. I was upset when the 1994 bikes came with Rapidfire and moreso when later that year, Bridgestone left the US market. Summer of 1994 happened to also be my entry into the world post-school, and one of the first things I did was to get an RB-2 while they could still be had. I got it from the Missing Link in Berkeley: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/46.htm My bike preferences formed in those years riding both of those bikes - a great pair of bikes to have. In this time, I knew nothing of the name Grant Petersen. In late '94, I liked my pair of Bridgestones so much that I decided to call the San Leandro number of the Bridgestone office that was printed on the back of the catalog to see if there any remaining XO's to be sold (naive I realize.) Part of the reason I called was that the Bridgestone ads over the years definitely had a friendly tone that made calling them seem pretty reasonable. In '92 I think I ented a contest where you cut out the ad and draw, paste, or paint a helmet onto Pineapple Bob's head (from the picture in the ad.) So anyway, when I called the now defunct Bridestone in late '94, there was an answering machine greeting telling us to keep our eyes open for Grant's up-and-coming business called Rivendell Bicycle Works. As an LOTR fan, I loved the name, and I was really intrigued by the idea of the new company. Then survival concerns took over for the next 10 months or so - had to figure out where to live, how to have a job, etc., and in the midst of this, I crashed my RB-2 in the summer of 1995 and head-buckled the frame. This really bummed me out. I put a lot of effort into replacing the frame with something that I considered equally groovy. (Remember, no eBay back then.) I then remembered the Rivendell message I had heard, wasn't sure if it got off the ground yet, but somehow found their phone number. I called, wondering if one of their frames could be the replacement. Grant answered the phone. By this time, I had learned that he was pretty well-known, and thought it was really cool that he gave some time on the phone to give me advice. I also learned that the $950 Rivendell Road was going to be way more than I could afford at the time! From our conversation, I knew I wanted a membership, so Grant set that up, and in that summer and fall of 1995, I made a few calls to Riv ordering the really cool parts they were selling, a lot of NOS stuff like good DiaCompe brakes. Usually Grant, sometimes Spencer, was who I talked to on the phone. It was really fun keeping up with their progress in those days (including the Reader's progress reports), and in the mid-90's, they were one of the only fun bike companies that was easy for me to access. I also learned a lot more about how to spec-it-yourself on your bike. My replacement RB-2 that I eventually found came out pretty cool, and I rode it work in Colorado every day. I remember Grant explaining things on the phone like how different stems have different quill lengths - fun times! I really wanted Riv to do well. In June of 1996, I got to move back to California as I had wanted to, and during my drive out, I stayed with my sister in Berkeley. By this time, I had learned (probably from one of the Readers) that a visit to Riv HQ was possible, but I also knew that their space limitations at the time might make it inconvenient for them. I got there with my RB-2 on BART, and I met Spencer and Grant, and their old space was really small. But they were really nice. Grant like how I had set up some of their parts on my RB-2 (mustache bars, high technomic and non-Aero brake levers.) To get back to Berkeley, I wanted to ride my bike. It's a long ride, and Grant drew me a map on a copy of his book from the 80's Roads to Ride that he also gave me. So nice! So since then, I've continued to update my membership and continued reading every Reader and have
[RBW] Re: Thinking of going with a raw clear powdercoat
I have a 2010 Rivendell Roadeo in RCP, and i've had no rust issueslove it. also have a 1983 Serotta Nova Series that came to me with original candy blue paint and TONS of rust. i had it stripped and powder coated clear (gloss). absolutely love it. it was sandblasted after being stripped of the candy blue, so it has an even overall color; similar, in fact, to my RAL 6022 powder coated Sycip. I say go for it! -kps On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:41:57 PM UTC-5, Bruce Baker wrote: Has anyone taken their Sam Hillborne, stripped it and gone with a clear powder coat?? Would there be any downside to this?? I really like the looks of the protovelos I've seen and think it would be interesting have a Sam like that. Any thoughts or comments?? Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/W5G1XDefxkcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story?
Here is mine: 1990-1991: everyone in my circle of friends started noticing Bridgestone mountain bikes. I was riding my cheap GT Outpost at the time. Bridgestone's adherance to smart parts and their lovely riding and climbing geometry offroad was becoming known to us as each of us started buying one. (Eli: 1990 MB-2, Jay: 1990 MB-4, Steve: 1991 MB-2, my brother Dave: 1991 MB-3, Bill (who had money): 1991 MB-1.) I wasn't serious about getting one until my brother showed me the ad for the 1991 Red MB-4 made in Japan with a fully lugged Ritchey frame - such quality at the budget end! The sensibility of the bike and the ad hooked me, as did the the page for it in the catalog: We LIKE this bike. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1991/pages/bridgestone-1991-16.htm It cost $550 and was the first big thing I ever bought with my own money. I was in college at the time. I love that bike. I still ride it as my main mountain bike even though I have a newer Niner. I got into reading all the Bridgestone catalogs over the next couple of years. I was upset when the 1994 bikes came with Rapidfire and moreso when later that year, Bridgestone left the US market. Summer of 1994 happened to also be my entry into the world post-school, and one of the first things I did was to get an RB-2 while they could still be had. I got it from the Missing Link in Berkeley: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/46.htm My bike preferences formed in those years riding both of those bikes - a great pair of bikes to have. In this time, I knew nothing of the name Grant Petersen. In late '94, I liked my pair of Bridgestones so much that I decided to call the San Leandro number of the Bridgestone office that was printed on the back of the catalog to see if there any remaining XO's to be sold (naive I realize.) Part of the reason I called was that the Bridgestone ads over the years definitely had a friendly tone that made calling them seem pretty reasonable. In '92 I think I ented a contest where you cut out the ad and draw, paste, or paint a helmet onto Pineapple Bob's head (from the picture in the ad.) So anyway, when I called the now defunct Bridestone in late '94, there was an answering machine greeting telling us to keep our eyes open for Grant's up-and-coming business called Rivendell Bicycle Works. As an LOTR fan, I loved the name, and I was really intrigued by the idea of the new company. Then survival concerns took over for the next 10 months or so - had to figure out where to live, how to have a job, etc., and in the midst of this, I crashed my RB-2 in the summer of 1995 and head-buckled the frame. This really bummed me out. I put a lot of effort into replacing the frame with something that I considered equally groovy. (Remember, no eBay back then.) I then remembered the Rivendell message I had heard, wasn't sure if it got off the ground yet, but somehow found their phone number. I called, wondering if one of their frames could be the replacement. Grant answered the phone. By this time, I had learned that he was pretty well-known, and thought it was really cool that he gave some time on the phone to give me advice. I also learned that the $950 Rivendell Road was going to be way more than I could afford at the time! From our conversation, I knew I wanted a membership, so Grant set that up, and in that summer and fall of 1995, I made a few calls to Riv ordering the really cool parts they were selling, a lot of NOS stuff like good DiaCompe brakes. Usually Grant, sometimes Spencer, was who I talked to on the phone. It was really fun keeping up with their progress in those days (including the Reader's progress reports), and in the mid-90's, they were one of the only fun bike companies that was easy for me to access. I also learned a lot more about how to spec-it-yourself on your bike. My replacement RB-2 that I eventually found came out pretty cool, and I rode it work in Colorado every day. I remember Grant explaining things on the phone like how different stems have different quill lengths - fun times! I really wanted Riv to do well. In June of 1996, I got to move back to California as I had wanted to, and during my drive out, I stayed with my sister in Berkeley. By this time, I had learned (probably from one of the Readers) that a visit to Riv HQ was possible, but I also knew that their space limitations at the time might make it inconvenient for them. I got there with my RB-2 on BART, and I met Spencer and Grant, and their old space was really small. But they were really nice. Grant like how I had set up some of their parts on my RB-2 (mustache bars, high technomic and non-Aero brake levers.) To get back to Berkeley, I wanted to ride my bike. It's a long ride, and Grant drew me a map on a copy of his book from the 80's Roads to Ride that he also gave me. So nice! So since then, I've continued to update my membership and continued reading every Reader and
[RBW] Re: Thinking of going with a raw clear powdercoat
After a few years of abuse, damp coastal mornings my RCP Roadeo started to show some signs of rust at the lug edges. The downfall of most coatings is surface prep. The beauty of the RCP is the Raw, but that is also the weak link. If you sandblast, it will be a different look, but probably hold up much better than RCP. Note at this point you have little choice other than to blast. The next step in protection would be to pony up the $$$ for liquid clear over the clear powder. You get a thinner high gloss topcoat, that will seal the micro cracks in the powder. Note this, liquid clear, also works over colored powders. I have heard reports that the liquid clear has hleped in some instances of rust bleed through on powder-coated bikes that see harsh duty. When Waterford had to rework a fork dropout I mangled, the clear PC came back a mess of shatters and flaking. I am not sure if it was the heat or cold setting the alignment. Recently, last year or so, I have seen bikes on the web by Toyo, Tange and Ben's Cycle (Waterford) offered in clear. I am curios to learn about how they are doing it. Particularly since these are contractors that reputedly resisted Riv doing this, Riv backs off of the subject, and now it is Cool so said contractors are selling clear coated bikes through other channels? Rob (thinking too much about paint) - Oceanaircycles.com Ventura, Ca On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:54:02 PM UTC-7, kps wrote: I have a 2010 Rivendell Roadeo in RCP, and i've had no rust issueslove it. also have a 1983 Serotta Nova Series that came to me with original candy blue paint and TONS of rust. i had it stripped and powder coated clear (gloss). absolutely love it. it was sandblasted after being stripped of the candy blue, so it has an even overall color; similar, in fact, to my RAL 6022 powder coated Sycip. I say go for it! -kps On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:41:57 PM UTC-5, Bruce Baker wrote: Has anyone taken their Sam Hillborne, stripped it and gone with a clear powder coat?? Would there be any downside to this?? I really like the looks of the protovelos I've seen and think it would be interesting have a Sam like that. Any thoughts or comments?? Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/h4Q7jjbyFzEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Longboard fender rub
Those long flappy things do look pretty chunky and heavy. Maybe the fender splats are better? On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:45:26 PM UTC-7, EricP wrote: For the front fender, try the shorter mudflap that Rivendell sells. That cured the problem on my bike. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On 8/22/12, john john...@comcast.net javascript: wrote: I experience annoying rubbing near the bottom of the fender when going over rough pavement, gravel, etc. Seems that there is not a lot of torsional rigidity in these fenders. I have adjusted several times. I run these fenders on a 60cm Sam with Pasella 35C tires. Anyone else out there experience the same thing? Any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kjnfPyRTMLkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/R7fZQXbwbRAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Mystery Bike Update and Question
Mix it up... VO fenders and Delta Cruisers http://db.tt/2n964325 Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/r3zcb8OOxosJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Longboard fender rub
We have them on my wife's 61cm Atlantis with 700x40's with no issues. Also had a set on her 61cm Roadeo with no problems. We have found them to work well. Sorry to hear your having issues. I have no idea why yours are rubbing. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HZ20mLD_YaUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another huge platform pedal. Love the platforms
Beautiful. The spindle bulge in the middle of the pedal gives me pause though. Looks like a hotspot with flimsy shoes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/okzNnEge43sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Just Ride book tour passes through Colorado
Wednesday, Grant was on Colorado Public Radio's local show called Colorado Matters. http://www.cpr.org/category/colorado_matters#load_article|Ditch_the_Spandex He did quite well I think. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/O3UW64CQdOcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Longboard fender rub
I am using them on my Legolas with 33mm Jack Browns and 35mm Schwalbe Cross tires. No problem at all. I do see the end of the fender vibrate a mm or two laterally on rough roads. I think the key is to insure you have enough clearance between tire and fender. I like a full consistent 1cm there. They are not the perfect fender, with a bit of leaking off the sides at times especially where the stay mounting hardware is bolted to the fender. But they are cheap, rugged, easy to install, mostly effective, and I think good looking. On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:02:48 AM UTC-6, john wrote: I experience annoying rubbing near the bottom of the fender when going over rough pavement, gravel, etc. Seems that there is not a lot of torsional rigidity in these fenders. I have adjusted several times. I run these fenders on a 60cm Sam with Pasella 35C tires. Anyone else out there experience the same thing? Any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aV-agnuPzM8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: Grip King pedals
If anyone has Grip Kings they don't like, I'd like to give them a try. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's your Rivendell story?
Long story short. About ten years ago I was just learning and searching the web for information on Touring / Commuting bikes and came across this. http://www.etherfarm.com/synapse/archives/i_want_to_ride_my_bicycle/ I fell in love with the XO-1 on first site. That lead me to the bobish biking mail list and the history of Bridgestone and Mr. Petersons influence. Still remember the day I first saw the orange XO-1 on the site I posted above. On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:06:10 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: So how did you originally find out about them, and why/where/how did you get your first Rivendell bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/l5S0ggSJkSIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Baggins Boxy bag with Nitto F15 rack, more Baggins bags and miscellaneous parts coming soon
Like the title says, I'm selling a Baggins Boxy bag and the Nitto F15 rack it goes on. The good: it's a Baggins bag, with no tears or other damage. The bad - it could use a cleaning, but most of the dirt is on the inside, so maybe you don't care. The ugly - nothing really, unless you count the repair to the clamps on the rack - see the photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikesandtools/sets/72157631196902318/ $100 shipped from Portland, OR, paypal or postal money order, please. I'll have more bags and stuff for sale shortly, including Baggins saddlebags (Hoss and Adam), original Baggins panniers, a Nitto big front rack, Mavic hubs off an MB-0, a 26 Bullseye wheelset, etc. More than I can remember right now, but they'll be listed as soon as I can get photos taken, hopefully tonight. Andrew Drummond Portland, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/53qTh4bP8tUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Longboard fender rub
Same here. Part of the problem is the flexibility, and part of it is due to the narrow clearance at the flap. Planet Bike's Cascadia fenders allow for more clearance, and are far more rigid, but don't have the coverage of the Longboards. Narrower tires will help with flap slap, but the inherent flex issue remains. From: john johnco...@comcast.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:02 AM Subject: [RBW] Longboard fender rub I experience annoying rubbing near the bottom of the fender when going over rough pavement, gravel, etc. Seems that there is not a lot of torsional rigidity in these fenders. I have adjusted several times. I run these fenders on a 60cm Sam with Pasella 35C tires. Anyone else out there experience the same thing? Any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kjnfPyRTMLkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivish Parts For Sale
Hi Scott, I think I can put a number of the parts you have to good use on a new/old bike project. It might be easier to drop me a line off list and we can maybe work on a package deal? My contact is oddsa...@gmail.com. Thanks, Jonathan On Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:00:49 PM UTC-4, Scott Calhoun wrote: A dead air conditioner, dying water heater, and a kid's college tuition have conspired to make me let go of some frames and parts I've been collecting and holding onto for bike building projects. My spouse somehow feels that cool indoor air and hot water are more important than my bicycle projects:) Before I put the stuff on fleabay, I thought I'd give fellow Riv Owner's Bunchers first crack at it. The prices I've listed include shipping to the continental U.S. (except where noted). I'm in Tucson, Arizona (so yeah, the AC is kinda essential). I also welcome local pickup. I can accept Paypal. Sorry about the length of the list. It was more than I thought. Gulp. I'm happy to email photos. Just shoot me an email with the item(s) you would like pictures of. *Framesets* 1986 Team Fuji Frameset 52cm. Immaculate condition (9.5/10), blue and yellow paint. Chrome fork crown. Lugged and made from Val-Lite 9658 Quad-butted tubing (I think made by Ishiwata). Includes fluted seatpost, headset, and Suntour Sprint Front Derailleur and BB. $170 1982 Trek 950 62cm Frameset. Great condition (8/10), original paint, silver with blue panels, Columbus SL tubing, Cinelli lugs and Campagnolo dropouts. A very small patch of surface rust where the paint is chipped on the fork, but could easily be touched up. Includes frame and fork. $300.00 1985 Trek 400 (22.5” or 57cm) True Temper Tubing. New mat celeste green powdercoat with gold lug-lining. Frame aligned and rear cold-set to 130mm spacing. All ready for components. $80.00 plus shipping. Surly Long Haul Trucker 60cm, Truckacinno color. Purchased to build up for cross-country touring but never got to it. I will ship it in original box with original packing materials. Includes frame, fork, and an installed top-of-the-line Cane Creek sealed bearing headset ($120 new). $425.00 Velo Orange Rando 61cm. Powder-coated Bengal Silver (I didn’t like the stock VO purple blue) never built up. I will ship it in its original box and packaging. I have a set of new Velo Orange decals that can send with the bike. I paid $145 for the professional powder-coating job. Includes frame, fork, and a velo orange front rack (the fork has hourglass braze-ons that fit the rack perfectly). $500.00 *Cranksets* Campagnolo Mirage 172.5 compact (34/50) double crankset. Black, square taper, 9 speed, 110bcd with matching Miche English thread 68mm x 110 bottom bracket. Both new, never used, in original boxes. $60.00 Campagnolo Record 170mm double crankset (53/39). Silver, square taper 10 speed. New, never used, in original box. $100.00 Campagnolo Daytona 172.5mm double crankset (53/39). Silver, square taper, 9 speed, with matching Campagnolo 68mm x 110mm English threaded bottom bracket. Used but in excellent shape. $85.00 Sugino XD2 175mm triple crankset (48/36/26). Silver, square taper, new in original box. I’ll include a matching Shimano UN-71 bottom bracket (the BB is used but works great). Both for $80.00 Sugino XD2 175mm, double crankset (48/34). Silver, square taper, new in original box. $70.00 Sugino AT 175mm triple crankset (50/42/28). Mid-80s vintage, came off a Fuji Supreme Touring IV. Some wear, but in overall great shape. $25.00 SR Super Custom 170mm double crankset (52/40). Early 80s vintage, came off a Trek 613. Some wear, but in very good shape. $20.00 *Shifters/Brifters* Campagnolo Daytona 9 speed Shifters/ Brake Levers, post 2003. Beautiful, silver, used but in excellent shape. $130.00 Shimano Bar-end 9speed (2 pairs) shifters. Index or friction. Silver, used, but in good working order. $70.00 (each) Shimano 600 SL-6208 downtube index shifters. Used, but in nearly new shape $15. Paul Thumbies, black, new in original packaging. $50.00 Silver Shifters, friction, new from Rivendell, never installed, in original plastic wrap. These have the new more UV resistant washers. $45. Suntour BL “Blue Line” Friction downtube shifters from the early 80s. Used, but in great shape. These have their own clamp and don’t require shifter braze-ons. $10. *Brakes/Brake Levers (Excluding Brifters)* Campagnolo Daytona, front and rear road caliper brakeset. Dual-pivot, silver, used, but in very nice shape $40.00 for t Origin 8 Campy copy (made by Tektro) Pro Force Aero road levers. Silver levers with black hoods. I have two pairs, both new in their original boxes. $20.00 each. Suntour Sprint Front and rear single pivot caliper road brakes. Silver. Excellent shape $20.
[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question
A vote for VO aluminum fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pQPjZ91GMMkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which headbadge/DT/ST art set do you like best on Rivbikes?
Just noticed the trilobites; great! On Sunday, August 19, 2012 12:09:07 AM UTC-4, Marty wrote: I guess I should weigh in as I was able to have every badge in hand for a while. I can narrow it down to two. Even though I own a Bombadil and a Quickbeam, it's a close race between the silver and blue Rivendell custom badge, and the Hunqapiller. Both seen here: *http://tinyurl.com/cwl2al7* * * *http://tinyurl.com/8u8az3s * * * Then again, the Legolas is really, really nice. And the Atlantis. And the Rambouillet. And the Bleriot... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QyYpXhH5wE4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another huge platform pedal. Love the platforms
I don't know the specs on these new pedals but I'd guess the Grip King are better if you like to lean and pedal through your turns. I used to run BMX style platforms that look similar in size to these VOs but I would always pedal strike. Switching to the narrower Grip Kings allows me to corner much more aggressively and my feet feel very comfortable and supported. On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:07:02 AM UTC-7, William wrote: I just saw this tweet from Velo Orange for a new platform pedal that looks pretty swank https://twitter.com/Velo_Orange/status/237971454694678528/photo/1 Also, on my recently refurbished 1985 Stumpjumper, I'm LOVING the Shimano DX pedals. They did it right, way back then! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SBO8HmdENnwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Grip King pedals
Hi Jeremy, I have a pair, barely ridden. What about $30 shipped priority within CONUS? Joe in western Colorado On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:20:28 PM UTC-6, Jeremy wrote: If anyone has Grip Kings they don't like, I'd like to give them a try. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WHXSfoxBsbAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question
I like Creme Deltas but...regular black marathons are tough reliable tiresfor more performance get Supremes best tires out there IMO. On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:44:44 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: Good news on the Mystery Bike front -- straightened the bent derailleur hanger and realigned the rear dropouts last night, and I believe I got them both right. And I got to buy a couple of tools! So, on with the build. One question for the group: Which tire fender combo -- brown Delta Cruisers with cream Longboards, or the sturdy Marathons it came with, and fluted VO aluminum fenders? The former looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836932364/in/set-72157630957672582/ The latter like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836930592/in/set-72157630957672582/ And you can sort of see them together here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836887966/in/set-72157630957672582/ First ride tonight! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/fXfEsMwrmaAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two Rivs for sale in Seattle
Oh man, those are both gorgeous bikes! *Great* color on the custom, and it is my size toobut it's 700C...and I'm committed to 650B, so I can't buy ityah...I'm committed to 650B I may have to wander down at lunchtime tomorrow to have a look, if one of you have succumbed to the temptation by then. :) Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QMFA-KKFcUsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Another huge platform pedal. Love the platforms
The few times I've had pedal strike, even with the RMX pedal, it's been on an outer corner of the pedal rather than the whole side. These ones from VO have a curved outer profile that looks like an attempt to minimize that. I guess the only way we'll know is if someone does a side by side photo. On 8/22/2012 10:51 AM, Hoffsta wrote: I don't know the specs on these new pedals but I'd guess the Grip King are better if you like to lean and pedal through your turns. I used to run BMX style platforms that look similar in size to these VOs but I would always pedal strike. Switching to the narrower Grip Kings allows me to corner much more aggressively and my feet feel very comfortable and supported. On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:07:02 AM UTC-7, William wrote: I just saw this tweet from Velo Orange for a new platform pedal that looks pretty swank https://twitter.com/Velo_Orange/status/237971454694678528/photo/1 https://twitter.com/Velo_Orange/status/237971454694678528/photo/1 Also, on my recently refurbished 1985 Stumpjumper, I'm LOVING the Shimano DX pedals. They did it right, way back then! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SBO8HmdENnwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5218 - Release Date: 08/22/12 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki porn
Whoa--that's beautiful! I may have to see if Hetres will fit under my fenders Rob in Seattle (also owner of a butterscotch Saluki) On Friday, August 17, 2012 9:06:12 AM UTC-7, jeffrey kane wrote: Sorry, been having an amazing 18 months on this baby and just had to post this pin-up pic ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZDxCkqfSsSUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two Rivs for sale in Seattle
Rob, If you wander down there tomorrow let me know if the Glorius is still available. I replied to the post off list on CR but luckily he never responded :) Mitch San Luis Obispo, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QUFgOZ5oqdgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki porn
PS. I have SA-01 and my bike has that same rear centered cable hanger. Plays nice with Paul Racer centerpulls. My decal uses a different font. Interesting. http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/7682503776/ Rob On Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:25:01 PM UTC-7, jeffrey kane wrote: Yes, the bridge is original and the frame has a nice rear cable hanger welded in place as well ... this, I believe is because the first runs of these frames predate the silvers or Tektro calipers. I've run both and found a little more room for the fenders with the center pulls (particularly in front). Maybe the side pull calipers are a little nicer feeling ... but not enough to be bothered over. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/__6zU0gM3bwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki porn
yeesh, that should have read: and an interesting note about the butterscotch color *from* *the original owner *... ! On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:23:26 PM UTC-4, jeffrey kane wrote: Here's the head badge, it's a that gold(ish) color no idea if that makes it the brass or pewter version offered at the time. and an interesting note about the butterscotch color for the original owed, Steve Frederick: *I have the very first butterscotch Saluki--custom colors were available for a modest up charge in the first run of frames. I wanted something similar to the harvest gold color offered on customs, maybe a bit richer, with a little more brown, and after a few email exchanges, Grant came up with that color for me. He like it so well he made it the standard color for subsequent runs--not entirely a new shade for Rivendell; it is very nearly the same color as one of my early WoolyWarm jerseys...* On Friday, August 17, 2012 12:06:12 PM UTC-4, jeffrey kane wrote: Sorry, been having an amazing 18 months on this baby and just had to post this pin-up pic ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uHZVaheF7EwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two Rivs for sale in Seattle
I was there this afternoon and didn't see the Glorius...could be there somewhere though...I didn't talk to anyone. The big custom was on the floor and looked very nice. the other Seattle Rob On Aug 22, 7:53 pm, Mitch Browne mitch.bro...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, If you wander down there tomorrow let me know if the Glorius is still available. I replied to the post off list on CR but luckily he never responded :) Mitch San Luis Obispo, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Baggins Boxy bag with Nitto F15 rack, more Baggins bags and miscellaneous parts coming soon
Gone? If not I'll take it. Can paypal. Thanks, Rob Markwardt Seattle On Aug 22, 12:56 pm, Andrew Drummond andrew.d.drumm...@gmail.com wrote: Like the title says, I'm selling a Baggins Boxy bag and the Nitto F15 rack it goes on. The good: it's a Baggins bag, with no tears or other damage. The bad - it could use a cleaning, but most of the dirt is on the inside, so maybe you don't care. The ugly - nothing really, unless you count the repair to the clamps on the rack - see the photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikesandtools/sets/72157631196902318/ $100 shipped from Portland, OR, paypal or postal money order, please. I'll have more bags and stuff for sale shortly, including Baggins saddlebags (Hoss and Adam), original Baggins panniers, a Nitto big front rack, Mavic hubs off an MB-0, a 26 Bullseye wheelset, etc. More than I can remember right now, but they'll be listed as soon as I can get photos taken, hopefully tonight. Andrew Drummond Portland, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Update and Question
Tried the Soma New Xpress tires tonight at 60psi (they say 90 max), and they were pretty nice. Back tire wasn't going all super-squish even at the relatively low pressure. I purposely ran over a lot of rough stuff and they soaked it up much better than the 38c Marathon Greenguards I was running before. Anyway, nice tire and something to maybe consider. Super pretty as a bonus. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/I7XEaaJ0sH8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What's your Rivendell story?
I had just moved back to Seattle and started commuting heavily by bike in 2008. I was looking for a road bike, as I was tired of modifying my mid-nineties Kona MTB for the commute. I started reading a lot online. Peter White, Sheldon, and Grant's writing - not sure where originally, but it struck a cord. My first road bike was an early 80's Raleigh Reliant I had purchased with paper route and corn-detasseling money (grew up in MN). My first MTB was a '92 Stumpjumper Pro. Both steel, and that left an impression on me. I never liked the stiff feel of Aluminum and carbon frames. It was like when vinyl was superseded by CD. Listen to an old album if you want to hear real bass. Anyway, I somehow found out that an aquaintence had some rivendell bikes, so I dropped in one day and saw and rode some of his beautiful bikes. (thanks, Frank!) After that, all bikes I saw paled in comparison. I went to the Seattle bike show and saw a lot of nuthin'. in early 2009, I ordered the 59cm copper frame special A Homer Hilsen, and spent the next few months getting components and building it up. Love! After a trip to Riv HQ in 2011, and rides on a Bombadil and 2 Hunqapillars, I was hooked again. I picked up a 54cm Hunqa this year, and it is now my camp/tour bike, to compliment my rando AHH. I expect there is a Roadeo or Legolas in my future. http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets/ http://stonehog.wordpress.com Mobile Brian Hanson On Aug 21, 2012, at 8:06 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: So how did you originally find out about them, and why/where/how did you get your first Rivendell bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/og7N-tA2hBgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
