Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
The point of moderation is to prevent problems. Once you've already got problems, it may be a different story. However, extremity in seeking weight loss may not be a good plan either. I have known people who developed health problems as a result of the Adkins plan, the primal type stuff, etc. I've also known people helped by it. These are decisions to be made with the advice of a doctor, not an Internet mailing list or a blog or some other web site. My Dad was an insulin dependent diabetic from the age of 6, which he developed as a consequence of having had polio in 1935. He took two to three shots of insulin a day for the rest of his life, which was about 25 years longer than he had been told to expect (he lived to be 67). It's a disease best prevented. Even though he was compliant with diet and treatment, it still took a toll on his health (coronary artery disease, peripheral vascular disease, peripheral neuropathy but oddly no problems with kidneys or eyes). He had a great endocrinologist... It's so much better not to need a great endocrinologist. As a result I pay a lot of attention since I may have an increased risk, although no doctor can tell me for sure since diabetes does not run strongly in the family on either side. On Oct 7, 2012, at 9:49 PM, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Kind of agree and kind of don't...(for some) trying to lose fat, moderation amounts to no progress. For those people it takes absolute vigilance and resolve without any wavering to lose fat and maintain their effort. Compromise just doesn't end well ultimately. Maybe for the average person that idea is okay..I'll give ya that. For someone on the edge of diabetes, compromise will put them over the edge into the abyss of insulin injections and a decline in the quality of life. On Sunday, October 7, 2012 9:02:23 AM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote: Too much of anything is bad for you. Too many carbs, too much fat, too much protein, too much water, too much alcohol, too much exercise, too much laziness, too much stress, etc. Humans are omnivorous in many ways and can thrive in an amazing variety of situations. Moderation in all things, including moderation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WdkkQyxAbJEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?
I have ridden the 135 bar and absolutely loved it. The drops reached back very far, and this would allow me shift way back on my saddle and still have a great grip on the bar when I became tired. I switched to Noodles after putting on the Silver Shifter Barends because I was concerned that the extended reach back of the bars, coupled with the barends would have me hitting the barends. Regards, Jay Demarest, Nj -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u_MH2QkE-ZgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
I have lots to say about this. I'll try to be concise. Extreme is a loaded term, and may in fact be meaningless. For the duration of the television age, at least, we've been advised by the slickest marketers on earth to avoid the fat and cholesterol of eggs in favor of the whole grain goodness of the latest manufactured breakfast cereal (usually vaguely referencing some unspecified scientific authority). Is avoiding manufactured breakfast cereal and returning to eggs an extreme thing to do? A lot of people, including perhaps many doctors, seem to think so. This attests to the power of marketing. My first paleo experience was following the lead of a friend who'd had success with a very simple no sugar, no grains diet. I immediately dropped the 20-30 pounds that had resisted all my previous efforts at moderation. I looked better and felt better. I ate like I did before - meat, eggs, vegetables, fruit, nuts - but no bread and no sweets. Lots of people thought my diet was extreme. You don't eat bread? That's extreme! For some reason, their minds fixated on the idea that I was eating nothing but bacon fat, even though I was likely eating more fresh vegetables and fiber and basic nutrients than they ever did. Several of the regulars on my Saturday morning breakfast ride have had coronary blockages that resulted in bypasses and stents. They tell me my doctor says I can't have eggs/butter/bacon as they order the tall stack of pancakes and drown it with syrup. If that is indeed the soundest advice of a medical professional regarding nutrition, I feel that my distrust of doctors as nutritionists may be justified. I quit drinking almost 10 years ago. I regard alcoholism and sugar/carb addiction as two sides of the same token. After I quit drinking, and even to this day, people who I recognize as alcoholics tell me: you just need to learn to drink in moderation. To me a sip of booze is much the same as a bite of chocolate cake. Moderation quickly goes out the window. I understand this has to do with spiking blood sugar and the insulin response, or inherited addictive tendencies, or insufficient will power, or Satan, or whatever, but in practice, I know it's a lot easier if I just abstain. Interestingly, the paleo diet thing gets a lot of the same response as I received when I quit drinking. A lot of people are seriously offended by it, trying to pull me back in by preaching moderation as a better solution. Addicts feel threatened when one of their own turns over a new leaf. As I travel my daily rounds through the seediest parts of the city, I see a level of obesity out there that makes the obese people I knew 25-30 years ago look slender by comparison. These people have the genetics that don't allow them to process the foods they eat without putting on belly fat. I know because my genetics are similar, and I'd be 400 pounds if I didn't have some clue how to eat. Mix these fat-prone genetics with poor finances, and no education/literacy or empowerment about nutrition or how to cook, and the result is a person who is addicted to highly processed, sugary substances. In many cases, these people have a zero fat, zero cholesterol diet, yet they are enormous and unhealthy. Obviously this is an odd example of a low fat, low cholesterol diet, but I think it's an example worth considering as we evaluate various pillars of conventional wisdom. On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:08:18 AM UTC-5, Tim McNamara wrote: The point of moderation is to prevent problems. Once you've already got problems, it may be a different story. However, extremity in seeking weight loss may not be a good plan either. I have known people who developed health problems as a result of the Adkins plan, the primal type stuff, etc. I've also known people helped by it. These are decisions to be made with the advice of a doctor, not an Internet mailing list or a blog or some other web site. My Dad was an insulin dependent diabetic from the age of 6, which he developed as a consequence of having had polio in 1935. He took two to three shots of insulin a day for the rest of his life, which was about 25 years longer than he had been told to expect (he lived to be 67). It's a disease best prevented. Even though he was compliant with diet and treatment, it still took a toll on his health (coronary artery disease, peripheral vascular disease, peripheral neuropathy but oddly no problems with kidneys or eyes). He had a great endocrinologist... It's so much better not to need a great endocrinologist. As a result I pay a lot of attention since I may have an increased risk, although no doctor can tell me for sure since diabetes does not run strongly in the family on either side. On Oct 7, 2012, at 9:49 PM, charlie cl_...@hotmail.com javascript: wrote: Kind of agree and kind of don't...(for some) trying to lose fat, moderation amounts to no progress. For those
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme update
Because I have several bikes and a steady stream of new tires to try (and an easy outlet to get rid of half-used tires), I almost never wear out my tires. Nonetheless, the durability of Schwalbe's various touring tires stands out. A friend of mine had almost 9000 miles on a rear Marathon Supreme 26x2, but after he got his first flat, he gave in to the temptation to install the replacement/spare he'd purchased some time before. The tire was worn and full of glass chunks, but a cheapskate could have made it work for at least another 1000 miles, I think. On Sunday, October 7, 2012 10:16:04 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: Rivendell says they cost a lot, last forever don't get flats. 2 our 3 ain't bad (they do have a disclaimer on that). In May 2011, I installed a pair of 40 mm Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis. They were purchased used from a list member. Whatever use he put on them did not amount to much as I changed out the rear after over 7,500 miles ONE (count 'em!) flat. It wasn't totally worn out but the moment was right. The front has had zero flats looks good to go for another couple of thousand or so. In the meantime, I got a set of 45 mm Marathon Plus with Smart Guard from another list member. They have zero miles; they just didn't fit his fenders. One of those is on the rear now. Being a bit wider and about double the weight (1,070 grams of steel ruibber), I don't expect to have any further comment until perhaps 2014. When you think about the cost per mile and the flat resistance, Riv's statements are pretty much on target. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HFaEHHKYBSsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: GAP Ride Semi Report
Kelly, Thanks for the report and photos. The trip that you took is one that I hope to do with my son someday. Your photos helped me to gain a better sense of the conditions of the trail. It was great to see (and read) that such a wide variety of bikes could handle the trail. I do have one question. I'm looking to buy a Sam Hillborne sometime in the not to distant future and one of my concerns is deciding between Noodle bars and Moustache bars. I've never been on 'stache bars, but I find the idea kind of cool. I'm wondering if the people who rode bikes on your tour were happy with their moustache bars - did they seem to enjoy the upright hand position while being on the trail or would they have preferred the Noodles - which seem to provide more opportunity to move hands around to avoid getting numb fingers? Thanks, Sean East Aurora, NY On Sunday, October 7, 2012 7:20:42 PM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: I just got back from the CO and Allegheny Ride between DC and Pittsburgh. It turned out great with rain and a 10 person contingent of great people. Seven from St Louis and three from Detroit. 2 Bombadils and 2 Atlantis's in the group. List members that road were Amit, Tom, and I. Amit and Tom made the entire ride while I caught the flue and bailed with 70ish miles to go. (expensive but damn I was dead in my tracks) Doesn't matter, the trip for me couldn't have been better. Even finding a way back to the car was an adventure.We also lost Amits brother to a knee injury suffered from a fall. it was a pleasure and I'm grateful to have met and rode with Amit, Sumeet, and Tom D out of Detroit. They added an extra dimension to the ride and were fast friends to all from St Louis. We were greeted upon our arrival in DC by Michael R on his A Homer HIlsen. Great guy and enjoyed spending part of the day with him. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8064271265/in/set-72157631715248107 it felt special to be a part of such a great group of people and to share it with my wife. So with no further ado, here are the bike porn photos. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157631715248107/with/8064271265/ Enjoy Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0M6GPMa1GC0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
Well stated Jim and Grant, its where I was coming from more or less.I hear the moderation suggestion all the time and like you Jim it just doesn't work for me. I also believe some try to sabotage my efforts subconsciously by offering up the moderation idea and frankly its a little annoying and keeps me from certain social situations which is also frustrating on the other hand. Its odd that when you buck the norm how much you notice what you are trying to avoid and how many people just don't get it. Probably why Scott C. has simplified his diet and remains steadfast in his schedule..its just easier that way and something I'm trying to integrate into my life. Social situations and work make it more of a challenge however. On Monday, October 8, 2012 5:20:45 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I have lots to say about this. I'll try to be concise. Extreme is a loaded term, and may in fact be meaningless. For the duration of the television age, at least, we've been advised by the slickest marketers on earth to avoid the fat and cholesterol of eggs in favor of the whole grain goodness of the latest manufactured breakfast cereal (usually vaguely referencing some unspecified scientific authority). Is avoiding manufactured breakfast cereal and returning to eggs an extreme thing to do? A lot of people, including perhaps many doctors, seem to think so. This attests to the power of marketing. My first paleo experience was following the lead of a friend who'd had success with a very simple no sugar, no grains diet. I immediately dropped the 20-30 pounds that had resisted all my previous efforts at moderation. I looked better and felt better. I ate like I did before - meat, eggs, vegetables, fruit, nuts - but no bread and no sweets. Lots of people thought my diet was extreme. You don't eat bread? That's extreme! For some reason, their minds fixated on the idea that I was eating nothing but bacon fat, even though I was likely eating more fresh vegetables and fiber and basic nutrients than they ever did. Several of the regulars on my Saturday morning breakfast ride have had coronary blockages that resulted in bypasses and stents. They tell me my doctor says I can't have eggs/butter/bacon as they order the tall stack of pancakes and drown it with syrup. If that is indeed the soundest advice of a medical professional regarding nutrition, I feel that my distrust of doctors as nutritionists may be justified. I quit drinking almost 10 years ago. I regard alcoholism and sugar/carb addiction as two sides of the same token. After I quit drinking, and even to this day, people who I recognize as alcoholics tell me: you just need to learn to drink in moderation. To me a sip of booze is much the same as a bite of chocolate cake. Moderation quickly goes out the window. I understand this has to do with spiking blood sugar and the insulin response, or inherited addictive tendencies, or insufficient will power, or Satan, or whatever, but in practice, I know it's a lot easier if I just abstain. Interestingly, the paleo diet thing gets a lot of the same response as I received when I quit drinking. A lot of people are seriously offended by it, trying to pull me back in by preaching moderation as a better solution. Addicts feel threatened when one of their own turns over a new leaf. As I travel my daily rounds through the seediest parts of the city, I see a level of obesity out there that makes the obese people I knew 25-30 years ago look slender by comparison. These people have the genetics that don't allow them to process the foods they eat without putting on belly fat. I know because my genetics are similar, and I'd be 400 pounds if I didn't have some clue how to eat. Mix these fat-prone genetics with poor finances, and no education/literacy or empowerment about nutrition or how to cook, and the result is a person who is addicted to highly processed, sugary substances. In many cases, these people have a zero fat, zero cholesterol diet, yet they are enormous and unhealthy. Obviously this is an odd example of a low fat, low cholesterol diet, but I think it's an example worth considering as we evaluate various pillars of conventional wisdom. On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:08:18 AM UTC-5, Tim McNamara wrote: The point of moderation is to prevent problems. Once you've already got problems, it may be a different story. However, extremity in seeking weight loss may not be a good plan either. I have known people who developed health problems as a result of the Adkins plan, the primal type stuff, etc. I've also known people helped by it. These are decisions to be made with the advice of a doctor, not an Internet mailing list or a blog or some other web site. My Dad was an insulin dependent diabetic from the age of 6, which he developed as a consequence of having had polio in 1935. He took two to
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
This is veering off into lala land. I think that we might agree on the following: 1. Moderation! In our opinions. 2. It seems to be clear that Primal works for some people, at least for some things -- maybe for all things, that is, maybe there are no down sides to the benefits for these people, I don't know, I'm no scientists or doctor. But too many whom we have no reason to believe a priori are complete idiots claim that it does work for them. 3. Primal is not the only reasonable diet nor a universal prescription. There are millions out there who do just fine -- that means, not only remaining more or less normal weight, but in normal health -- on carb-based diets, including traditional Native Americans and my Filipina mother. (She has controlled type 2 diabetes for decades eating controlled amounts of white rice, bread, pasta, gawdawful styrofoam chicken breasts, and no fat or sugar or potatoes.) 4. For centuries if not millenia people over the world have thrived on very different diets without succumbing to obesity or diabetes or heart disease or nervous tics or herpes. Frozen whale blubber! Oatmeal! Posho! Chapattis! Locusts and beetle larvae! Milk-and-blood, yum! 5. Let's leave evolution and cave men out of it. To explain Primal or anything else by supposing we know what our distant ancestors did is to attempt to explain the still-not-completely-known by the entirely conjectural. I personally feel -- that's as scientific as it gets -- that eating huge amounts of refined sugar, Cheetos, Little Debbie Cakes, deep fried Mars Bars, or synthesized pork rinds -- note: real pork rind is wonderful! -- can't be healthy. For what *that's* worth. Can we please get back to helmets? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?
I tried the 135 Randonneur bars once but did not like the upsweep on them that much.Definitely prefer the slight back-sweep of the the Noodle. I'm weird about width however because, though I'm 6'0.5 tall I have a narrow bird body with narrow shoulders, so 42cm Noodles feel plenty wide to me. Tried 46's, even toured cross continent on them but in the end they are just too wide for me. Noodles are tough bars but I still hope Riv comes out with a steel version one day. -Matt On Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:45:36 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote: Somewhat related, but without hijacking the below Drop Bar Suggestions thread... I have 46cm Noodles on two bikes. I like them fine but wonder if there is something to the flaring on the Randonneur. (hand position(s) and long ride comfort) If you stand relaxed with your eyes closed and place your arms in front of you, you'll notice that your hands are angled in a bit. (at least mine are) With this, it would seem that the flaring of the Randonneur would provide a more natural hand position. I wonder if this is true in real life? B-177 Noddle (46, 26.0) reach of 95 mm C-C and drop of 140 mm C-C B-135 Rando (45, 25.4) reach of 105 mm C-C and a drop of 120 mm C-C B-136 Rando (44, 26.0) reach of 110 mm C-C and a drop of 125 C-C. While 1 cm narrower than the B-135, the specs I'm looking at show that the hoods would be 1 cm wider than the B-135, indicating more flare? Can anyone comment with their real-world experience using both (all three) bars? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/n7k-8eWeGZoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 07:59 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: 5. Let's leave evolution and cave men out of it. To explain Primal or anything else by supposing we know what our distant ancestors did is to attempt to explain the still-not-completely-known by the entirely conjectural. Bravo! Very well put, even for you (and you are known for well-turned phrases). I personally feel -- that's as scientific as it gets -- that eating huge amounts of refined sugar, Cheetos, Little Debbie Cakes, deep fried Mars Bars, or synthesized pork rinds -- note: real pork rind is wonderful! -- can't be healthy. For what *that's* worth. What is a synthesized 'pork rind'? And why would anyone want to synthesize it? It's not like there's any kind of pork rind shortage, only perhaps a shortage of people willing to admit they actually like the stuff... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
I think it was Taubes who said something to the effect of: if you're fat, it's because of carbs. People who aren't fat are excluded by the first half of the sentence, so all those rice-eating thin Chinese people need not apply. I've never seen a fat person on the city bus snacking on bacon and eggs. It's always pop or candy, and as Grant mentioned, there is a correlation with ethnicity. Perhaps some overweight/obese person who doesn't eat grains, sugars, and/or starchy veggies, will step forward, but in my experience and observation, those people don't exist. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/042gY_9ZJ68J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Grey Grid Shopsack
One more try. Anyone? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XWg0u9gC820J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
There was plenty of protein and fat in this diet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me Along with huge amounts of starch, of course. It would be interesting to discover (1) the breakdown of starch/fat/protein/what else? and (2) discover what made him gain 24 lb, starch only or fat too? I've read that skinny Chinese people become fat Chinese people after starting up on a western diet, but have no details. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I think it was Taubes who said something to the effect of: if you're fat, it's because of carbs. People who aren't fat are excluded by the first half of the sentence, so all those rice-eating thin Chinese people need not apply. I've never seen a fat person on the city bus snacking on bacon and eggs. It's always pop or candy, and as Grant mentioned, there is a correlation with ethnicity. Perhaps some overweight/obese person who doesn't eat grains, sugars, and/or starchy veggies, will step forward, but in my experience and observation, those people don't exist. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/042gY_9ZJ68J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: that nice bike comment
You think they're rare there? Try the great (small) State of Delaware! I don't think there are any in the whole state except mine. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael_S Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:45 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: that nice bike comment you've led a sheltered life Doug, Woodrup's are very nice British made lugged steel bikes that have been made for over 50 years. http://www.woodrupcycles.com/frames.html I wish I saw more lugged steel bikes down here along the San Diego coast... almost everyone is on carbon fiber with tri bars. Oh. I see the occasional Surly, but Riv's are rarer than hen's teeth. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AxKV4PbdG4UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
Forgot to include demographics close to home: Fat Hopi, Zuni, Navajo etc. exquisitely inclined to diabetes after they left their traditional squash/corn/ beans/game/mutton diets for refined carbs 'n' lard. (I've seen families at the checkout counter with the standard 20 lb cloth bags of bleached white flour + 5 gallon plastic pails of lard.) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:26 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: There was plenty of protein and fat in this diet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me Along with huge amounts of starch, of course. It would be interesting to discover (1) the breakdown of starch/fat/protein/what else? and (2) discover what made him gain 24 lb, starch only or fat too? I've read that skinny Chinese people become fat Chinese people after starting up on a western diet, but have no details. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I think it was Taubes who said something to the effect of: if you're fat, it's because of carbs. People who aren't fat are excluded by the first half of the sentence, so all those rice-eating thin Chinese people need not apply. I've never seen a fat person on the city bus snacking on bacon and eggs. It's always pop or candy, and as Grant mentioned, there is a correlation with ethnicity. Perhaps some overweight/obese person who doesn't eat grains, sugars, and/or starchy veggies, will step forward, but in my experience and observation, those people don't exist. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/042gY_9ZJ68J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] lights
I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: GAP Ride Semi Report
Hi Sean I was riding the 64cm Atlantis with Noodle Bars. Your handlebars choice depends on your riding style, and comfort, experiment and find what works for you. I have tried mustache bars and found my hands getting numb and the positions awkward, where others just love them. I have 5 bikes all with mustache bars and one with albatross bars I use for short trips to the store and around my neighborhood. Good luck. Tom Dusky Huntington Woods, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/c5J9tow3dbUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] lights
I used a very wide variety of battery lights and three types of generators, hub, bottle and bb. Here's my take: If you ride just occasionally in the dark, battery lights -- if you choose well and IF you can remember to charge or replace the batteries as needed or bottles or bb dynamos are the best value. If you ride a lot in the dark, hub dynamos are the best in that you get the worry free advantage of a dynamo with the almost complete absence of additional wheel resistance. That said, the best bottles and bb dynamos aren't *that bad. The LED headlights made by German companies seem to give more useful illumination than mega-candlepower non-shaped beams. The brightest lights don't always give better useful illumination: I went from an early HID system with XXX lumens that blinded my distance vision by its excess of close-up brightness to 2 early 50 lumen EO Tecs that let me see as well as the HID system. The better Shimano hubs plus the IQ Cyo is the best combination of low drag, useful light, reliability, and cost. Even cheap LED headlights -- the sub $40 kind -- are far, far FAR better now than they were 10 years ago. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:42 AM, DON LYON donl...@bellsouth.net wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
The Supersize Me guy was remarkable for not only eating fast food for every meal, but for eating an extraordinary quantity of it. It seems that he likely consumed at least 500 cal of pure sugar or HFCS for every single meal. This is in addition to the non-sugar carbs, protein, and fat. My Chinese buddy in grad school put some weight on during his first year in the US. I hear McDonald's is an extravagance in China, reserved for special occasions. Here, he was able to enjoy such opulence on a daily basis. Also, he drank a lot of Coke. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/t7GvbpI5B9gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] lights
The expense of a dynamo system is considerable, and battery lights have gotten very good even at low price-points. Obviously, battery lights require more daily planning/conservation. It comes down to weighing the expense of the dynamo vs the inconvenience of keeping your batteries charged during your tours. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/skzH9SbIb9kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
It's hard to beat a dynamo for reliability or convenience, but a full dyno set up is still a bit of an investment if you won't be using it regularly. However, you mention touring so it could be that even if you do most of your riding in daylight, not having to worry about batteries while you are out and about could make a dynamo system worthwhile for you. A decent headlight will eat batteries quickly, but if you only need be seen blinky lights then a set of batteries could last a whole tour with occasional use. -Pete (dynamo powered as of this morning!) in CT On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qUH4scgXS_cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: that nice bike comment
I saw lots of Rivs last time I was in Carlsbad. Sure, it was a SoCal Riv ride, which may show some bias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/thv0oidl58sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?
I actually have both 46 Noodles and 45 Randos. Surprisingly, even though I'm 6'3 I find the Randos more comfortable despite their being only 38cm at the hoods. Go figure. I use the drops less than 1% of the time, so I can't really comment. Also I ride almost 100% paved road, but I can see the wider bar being a big help off-road. Pete in CT On Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:45:36 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote: Somewhat related, but without hijacking the below Drop Bar Suggestions thread... I have 46cm Noodles on two bikes. I like them fine but wonder if there is something to the flaring on the Randonneur. (hand position(s) and long ride comfort) If you stand relaxed with your eyes closed and place your arms in front of you, you'll notice that your hands are angled in a bit. (at least mine are) With this, it would seem that the flaring of the Randonneur would provide a more natural hand position. I wonder if this is true in real life? B-177 Noddle (46, 26.0) reach of 95 mm C-C and drop of 140 mm C-C B-135 Rando (45, 25.4) reach of 105 mm C-C and a drop of 120 mm C-C B-136 Rando (44, 26.0) reach of 110 mm C-C and a drop of 125 C-C. While 1 cm narrower than the B-135, the specs I'm looking at show that the hoods would be 1 cm wider than the B-135, indicating more flare? Can anyone comment with their real-world experience using both (all three) bars? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F38NBd8y4ywJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] GAP Ride Semi Report
Great report, Kelly, and great pics. Some beautiful bikes. And you lived up to your rep as a fully-equipped Tourer - that's quite a load on your Bomba! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 7:21 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] GAP Ride Semi Report I just got back from the CO and Allegheny Ride between DC and Pittsburgh. It turned out great with rain and a 10 person contingent of great people. Seven from St Louis and three from Detroit. 2 Bombadils and 2 Atlantis's in the group. List members that road were Amit, Tom, and I. Amit and Tom made the entire ride while I caught the flue and bailed with 70ish miles to go. (expensive but damn I was dead in my tracks) Doesn't matter, the trip for me couldn't have been better. Even finding a way back to the car was an adventure.We also lost Amits brother to a knee injury suffered from a fall. it was a pleasure and I'm grateful to have met and rode with Amit, Sumeet, and Tom D out of Detroit. They added an extra dimension to the ride and were fast friends to all from St Louis. We were greeted upon our arrival in DC by Michael R on his A Homer HIlsen. Great guy and enjoyed spending part of the day with him. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8064271265/in/set-72157631715248107 it felt special to be a part of such a great group of people and to share it with my wife. So with no further ado, here are the bike porn photos. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157631715248107/with/8064271265/ Enjoy Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ua4OE8sd_o8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
Once upon a time, 20 years ago, I was a skinny 6', 145lb Marine... But after learning how to eat everything I could get my hands on, then getting out of constant activity and sitting on my duff for years of grad school, I found myself 10 years ago tipping the scales at 280lbs... I went on a carb-free diet for a year (no breads, no potatoes, no sugars, best I could manage), and finally got down to 200lbs. But something clicked in my head; er, rather, internally, something snapped, regardless of my head thinking otherwise... if I thought about not eating a roll, I ate the pan of rolls; if I thought about not eating a slice of pie, I ate the pie. It was really weird, I just couldn't not eat carbs at all. So, I gave up, went back to 'normal', and the weight crept back on. Wanting to do something about it again, is when I got back into riding a few years ago; but as Grant's pointed out, riding alone won't drop pounds. This past spring, seeing the scale back up at 260, I finally started watching the carbs again. Took all summer, to get down to 235 now; that much weight actually dropped fast early on, but then I got stuck, and have been... For the past two months, I'm stuck at 235, 236, 237, and no more has come off... I really want to get down to 200 (further, eventually, but 200 is my initial goal); so, since my diet alone, nor w/ biking is helping, I'm thinking about mixing a bit of running in, to help get the loss moving. Aside from 'health', a large part of wanting to get my weight down, is to help my hill-climbing on my bikes Patrick ( and Jim), Tying your two thoughts together on alcohol: when I had the opportunity to spend a week in Albuquerque this past summer, I was shocked at the quantity of cheap liquor available even in WalMart there And noting the sizes of those purchasers buying in quantity, none were petite... I do like an occasional beer myself, but singularly, not in quantity, and I now keep them further between... Instead of a weekly beer, anymore it's closer to a monthly beer, just avoiding carbs (many of my geologist colleagues are hard drinkers, but only a few would I classify as alcoholics (but there are some); I enjoy a drink or two, but despise getting drunk, one and done is great for me; but I completely understand, not even getting started if that's what someone needs to do...). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EPROULgHj4EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: that nice bike comment
Seems like I run into a lot of 'em every time I'm there as well. That ore Legoland... On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I saw lots of Rivs last time I was in Carlsbad. Sure, it was a SoCal Riv ride, which may show some bias. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/thv0oidl58sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
I do ride alot at night but not for hours at a time and have found my MiNewt 250 light with Gino mount to be a great fit. Even on the lowest setting it is bright enough to light up a dark bike path and will run for about 3 hours. Now take into consideration I am in NYC where it is rarely ever pitch black. on the brightest setting the light is crazy bright, which i only use in high traffic situations to make sure I am seen. It is defintely a see and be seen light. Best part for me is tha it has a built in batter, which makes it kinda large but I dont have to run any wires or anything like that. It was not a cheap light at 90 bucks but it charges in 5 hours, is sealed up tight to stop dirt and water and mounts securely. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: It's hard to beat a dynamo for reliability or convenience, but a full dyno set up is still a bit of an investment if you won't be using it regularly. However, you mention touring so it could be that even if you do most of your riding in daylight, not having to worry about batteries while you are out and about could make a dynamo system worthwhile for you. A decent headlight will eat batteries quickly, but if you only need be seen blinky lights then a set of batteries could last a whole tour with occasional use. -Pete (dynamo powered as of this morning!) in CT On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qUH4scgXS_cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
I'm going to throw in a vote for Cygo lights for convenience - Expilion and Hot Shot combo. They're inexpensive, lightweight, and go for hours and hours before needing a charge. They plug into any USB, and a spare battery for the headlight is cheap enough if you want to carry a charged spare. Yes, you see them everywhere - it's for a reason. Wouldn't claim they're the best lighting system for commuting, but a perfect choice for in case I need a light On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vNQ5G5A0KmwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: that nice bike comment
Same here in Jersey... I had one guy look at my (double TT) Bombadil and ask Hey, ain't that one of those Chinese Flying Pidgeons??... I first shot him a 'you-gotta-be-kidding-me' look... but then just found it easier to reply, Why yes... yes it is... On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:41:42 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: You think they’re rare there? Try the great (small) State of Delaware! I don’t think there are any in the whole state except mine. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Michael_S *Sent:* Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:45 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [RBW] Re: that nice bike comment you've led a sheltered life Doug, Woodrup's are very nice British made lugged steel bikes that have been made for over 50 years. http://www.woodrupcycles.com/frames.html I wish I saw more lugged steel bikes down here along the San Diego coast... almost everyone is on carbon fiber with tri bars. Oh. I see the occasional Surly, but Riv's are rarer than hen's teeth. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AxKV4PbdG4UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cy7TGvynCMUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] that nice bike comment
I'm in Oakland, CA, but was surprised when we took my wife's bike out for her inaugural ride, we went to a bike path by our house, and there was a couple walking on the path, and when we passed, the guy said, Nice Betty. I didn't expect that from a pedestrian. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?
I'm 5' 7 and normally use 42 cm bars, but I got the 45 cm Rando and they feel good. I couldn't recommend them for people who prefer wider bars, but I guess it works just fine for Pete, so as always YMMV. Toshi On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: I actually have both 46 Noodles and 45 Randos. Surprisingly, even though I'm 6'3 I find the Randos more comfortable despite their being only 38cm at the hoods. Go figure. I use the drops less than 1% of the time, so I can't really comment. Also I ride almost 100% paved road, but I can see the wider bar being a big help off-road. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
There is a whole community of people who were inspired by Bill Clinton's weight loss based on a lifestyle and diet changes expressed in the documentary forks over knives and benefited from a switch to a HEALTHY plant-based diet. I stress the word HEALTHY because based on my own experience of being a vegetarian and vegan most of my life, one can have a very bad plant-based diet. I don't claim that being on any vegan diet makes one thin, as I myself balloon from 170lbs in late college to my heaviest of 210 lbs just 2 years ago, all the while being a vegetarian or vegan. I did lose about 20-25 lbs in the last two years, based on a CORRECTIVE diet of not eating any starch for weeks. The model I employed, which correlated with my success, was that I moved up to a set point in terms of weight and digestive metabolism, and needed to use a cleanse to reset those points. I also began rock climbing and lifting weight in addition to cycling to build more muscles. During the weeks of my corrective diet I stayed a vegan and ate tons of leafy vegetables, legumes (beans, lentils, tofu, etc.), nuts, and fruits that are low on the glycemic index. After the corrective period, I have gone to eating whole grains, and pretty much kept all the weight off. What I find salient in most of the posts here is that people ween off refined food, and eat more whole foods. I like how Jim described how his diet probably has a lot more leafy vegetables than what most americans consume. I have moved on from refined sugar, refined grains, and processed food (not craving for them) since the corrective diet, and now still enjoy eating brown rice, quinoa, and soba (buckwheat) noodles in fairly healthy quantities. Although being healthy is not only about weight loss, but that's for another day. Franklyn On Monday, October 8, 2012 8:34:54 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: Once upon a time, 20 years ago, I was a skinny 6', 145lb Marine... But after learning how to eat everything I could get my hands on, then getting out of constant activity and sitting on my duff for years of grad school, I found myself 10 years ago tipping the scales at 280lbs... I went on a carb-free diet for a year (no breads, no potatoes, no sugars, best I could manage), and finally got down to 200lbs. But something clicked in my head; er, rather, internally, something snapped, regardless of my head thinking otherwise... if I thought about not eating a roll, I ate the pan of rolls; if I thought about not eating a slice of pie, I ate the pie. It was really weird, I just couldn't not eat carbs at all. So, I gave up, went back to 'normal', and the weight crept back on. Wanting to do something about it again, is when I got back into riding a few years ago; but as Grant's pointed out, riding alone won't drop pounds. This past spring, seeing the scale back up at 260, I finally started watching the carbs again. Took all summer, to get down to 235 now; that much weight actually dropped fast early on, but then I got stuck, and have been... For the past two months, I'm stuck at 235, 236, 237, and no more has come off... I really want to get down to 200 (further, eventually, but 200 is my initial goal); so, since my diet alone, nor w/ biking is helping, I'm thinking about mixing a bit of running in, to help get the loss moving. Aside from 'health', a large part of wanting to get my weight down, is to help my hill-climbing on my bikes Patrick ( and Jim), Tying your two thoughts together on alcohol: when I had the opportunity to spend a week in Albuquerque this past summer, I was shocked at the quantity of cheap liquor available even in WalMart there And noting the sizes of those purchasers buying in quantity, none were petite... I do like an occasional beer myself, but singularly, not in quantity, and I now keep them further between... Instead of a weekly beer, anymore it's closer to a monthly beer, just avoiding carbs (many of my geologist colleagues are hard drinkers, but only a few would I classify as alcoholics (but there are some); I enjoy a drink or two, but despise getting drunk, one and done is great for me; but I completely understand, not even getting started if that's what someone needs to do...). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LOXkztZyFHAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grey Grid Shopsack
I have one I won't part with. Marc On Friday, October 5, 2012 8:01:55 PM UTC-4, Adam wrote: Greetings All, I am curious if anyone out there has a new or lightly used grey grid sackville shopsack they'd be interested in parting with. I have worn through mine and have an olive colored simpleone that looks too 'matchy matchy' to me with the green color. Medium size is preferred but I would think about a large. Thanks, Adam Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KURIV1PIapAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front rack for A. Homer Hilsen
I've been delighted with the front and center placement of my headlamp on the front tab that the Mark's Rack (and Nitto Mini Front Rack) comes with. On Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:29:31 PM UTC-7, Michael Richters wrote: I'm looking for a front rack for my AHH to support a handlebar bag. Unfortunately, the VO rack that I've got has struts that are much too short to reach the eyelets on the fork blades. It looks like a Mark's Rack would reach, but that one doesn't seem to have any provision for mounting a headlight. Does anyone here know of a front rack that just fits? In case it matters, it's a 58cm (650B) frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CrZKGo6NtYoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Don, I would be of the camp that yells loudly for Dyno Hubs. The cost of the lights and hub has gone down to fairly reasonable cost. Great hubs can be had for 130 bucks, with headlights ranging from 50 to 150 covering a wide range of needs. In addition to always having light when needed, the hubs will offer the ability to charge phones, and other devices. I bring this up as you mentioned touring. We just got back from a tour through some very wet, muddy, very wet, very muddy, and beautiful conditions. None of the 4 bikes with dynos had any issues. Add to this the ability to charge our phones while riding came in very handy as we were in primitive camp grounds. Consider the rainy dark day when the lights are on for the entire day. Batteries aren't going to cut it without access to power and the time to charge them. It's not just about night time riding. In my opinion it's the best investment one can make for their bike when touring. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QQamsW9VkD8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
I'll reiterate again that, if you don't plan to ride in the rain a lot, a bottle dynamo is not a bad choice. I personally would have chosen a bb dynamo or even one of these: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/dymotec.asp Even old Soubitezes are not bad. And bb dynamos if you can find them (I had an old Sanyo on the Herse) are even better than bottles, IME. PJW has wire rollers for use in the rain. For my Fargo (which is not my principal nightime bike) except that I use both 35 mm and almost-65mm tires on the same bike. If I ever get another bike which sees only occasional night use, this is what I'd choose. (The 12 volt dynamo, through the description of which you scrolled to get to the Dymotec6, is really wonderful but at the price why bother?) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Don, I would be of the camp that yells loudly for Dyno Hubs. The cost of the lights and hub has gone down to fairly reasonable cost. Great hubs can be had for 130 bucks, with headlights ranging from 50 to 150 covering a wide range of needs. In addition to always having light when needed, the hubs will offer the ability to charge phones, and other devices. I bring this up as you mentioned touring. We just got back from a tour through some very wet, muddy, very wet, very muddy, and beautiful conditions. None of the 4 bikes with dynos had any issues. Add to this the ability to charge our phones while riding came in very handy as we were in primitive camp grounds. Consider the rainy dark day when the lights are on for the entire day. Batteries aren't going to cut it without access to power and the time to charge them. It's not just about night time riding. In my opinion it's the best investment one can make for their bike when touring. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QQamsW9VkD8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Front rack for A. Homer Hilsen
Me too. Here's my setup on my AHH with IQ Cyo standard bracket. http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/6988274498/ On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:31 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I've been delighted with the front and center placement of my headlamp on the front tab that the Mark's Rack (and Nitto Mini Front Rack) comes with. On Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:29:31 PM UTC-7, Michael Richters wrote: I'm looking for a front rack for my AHH to support a handlebar bag. Unfortunately, the VO rack that I've got has struts that are much too short to reach the eyelets on the fork blades. It looks like a Mark's Rack would reach, but that one doesn't seem to have any provision for mounting a headlight. Does anyone here know of a front rack that just fits? In case it matters, it's a 58cm (650B) frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
I've been road testing a slightly different solution--the BikeCharge combination dynamo/light/USB charger. My initial results are online here: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2012/08/quick-bikecharge-impressions.html I originally bought the BikeCharge to get the USB charging option, but I've been very pleased with the amount of light it throws. It moves easily from bike to bike (within limits), and has worked very well on my primary bike. The entire system is about $120 including shipping. --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Don, I would be of the camp that yells loudly for Dyno Hubs. The cost of the lights and hub has gone down to fairly reasonable cost. Great hubs can be had for 130 bucks, with headlights ranging from 50 to 150 covering a wide range of needs. In addition to always having light when needed, the hubs will offer the ability to charge phones, and other devices. I bring this up as you mentioned touring. We just got back from a tour through some very wet, muddy, very wet, very muddy, and beautiful conditions. None of the 4 bikes with dynos had any issues. Add to this the ability to charge our phones while riding came in very handy as we were in primitive camp grounds. Consider the rainy dark day when the lights are on for the entire day. Batteries aren't going to cut it without access to power and the time to charge them. It's not just about night time riding. In my opinion it's the best investment one can make for their bike when touring. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QQamsW9VkD8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Front rack for A. Homer Hilsen
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: Me too. Here's my setup on my AHH with IQ Cyo standard bracket. http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/6988274498/ Mine is the same. You can also flip the bracket so the light is angled down, closer to the wheel. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
Whoops, I should make it clear that I'm not trying to contradict Kelly and only wish to say that, IME, bottles and bb dynamos are a very nice and relatively inexpensive option. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'll reiterate again that, if you don't plan to ride in the rain a lot, a bottle dynamo is not a bad choice. I personally would have chosen a bb dynamo or even one of these: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/dymotec.asp Even old Soubitezes are not bad. And bb dynamos if you can find them (I had an old Sanyo on the Herse) are even better than bottles, IME. PJW has wire rollers for use in the rain. For my Fargo (which is not my principal nightime bike) except that I use both 35 mm and almost-65mm tires on the same bike. If I ever get another bike which sees only occasional night use, this is what I'd choose. (The 12 volt dynamo, through the description of which you scrolled to get to the Dymotec6, is really wonderful but at the price why bother?) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Don, I would be of the camp that yells loudly for Dyno Hubs. The cost of the lights and hub has gone down to fairly reasonable cost. Great hubs can be had for 130 bucks, with headlights ranging from 50 to 150 covering a wide range of needs. In addition to always having light when needed, the hubs will offer the ability to charge phones, and other devices. I bring this up as you mentioned touring. We just got back from a tour through some very wet, muddy, very wet, very muddy, and beautiful conditions. None of the 4 bikes with dynos had any issues. Add to this the ability to charge our phones while riding came in very handy as we were in primitive camp grounds. Consider the rainy dark day when the lights are on for the entire day. Batteries aren't going to cut it without access to power and the time to charge them. It's not just about night time riding. In my opinion it's the best investment one can make for their bike when touring. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QQamsW9VkD8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
I'll toss this one in, too: http://www.magniclight.com/magniclight/index.php/en/startseite/8-magnic-light-homepage-english The claim that it puts out more light than any existing dynamo system is probably bogus, but the claim that (eventually) it will retrofit to your existing headlight is interesting. Vapor at the moment, I think, and I guess it won't work with the carbon fiber rims on your Bombadil. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Whoops, I should make it clear that I'm not trying to contradict Kelly and only wish to say that, IME, bottles and bb dynamos are a very nice and relatively inexpensive option. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: I'll reiterate again that, if you don't plan to ride in the rain a lot, a bottle dynamo is not a bad choice. I personally would have chosen a bb dynamo or even one of these: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/dymotec.asp Even old Soubitezes are not bad. And bb dynamos if you can find them (I had an old Sanyo on the Herse) are even better than bottles, IME. PJW has wire rollers for use in the rain. For my Fargo (which is not my principal nightime bike) except that I use both 35 mm and almost-65mm tires on the same bike. If I ever get another bike which sees only occasional night use, this is what I'd choose. (The 12 volt dynamo, through the description of which you scrolled to get to the Dymotec6, is really wonderful but at the price why bother?) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Don, I would be of the camp that yells loudly for Dyno Hubs. The cost of the lights and hub has gone down to fairly reasonable cost. Great hubs can be had for 130 bucks, with headlights ranging from 50 to 150 covering a wide range of needs. In addition to always having light when needed, the hubs will offer the ability to charge phones, and other devices. I bring this up as you mentioned touring. We just got back from a tour through some very wet, muddy, very wet, very muddy, and beautiful conditions. None of the 4 bikes with dynos had any issues. Add to this the ability to charge our phones while riding came in very handy as we were in primitive camp grounds. Consider the rainy dark day when the lights are on for the entire day. Batteries aren't going to cut it without access to power and the time to charge them. It's not just about night time riding. In my opinion it's the best investment one can make for their bike when touring. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QQamsW9VkD8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. Dusk touring, I understand, but is something to avoid, unless setting up camp in the dark is your aim (easier to hide)! Of course, your doing the BB thing, a bit of dusk riding doesn't hurt, except you are much harder to see by other vehicles. Normally best to tour in daylight. Either way, all you should need is a good head-light like a Petzl, a back up light (maybe a second headlight, like a Planet Bike headlight) and rear light (like a Planet Bike Superflash). Rechargeable batteries and a smaller wall charger, depending on the length of the tour. For commuting and randonneuring, it would be hard to beat a hub dynamo system. Price wise - http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=13search=dynamo On Monday, October 8, 2012 8:42:32 AM UTC-6, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RJpGIkileMoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. Dusk touring, I understand, but is something to avoid, unless setting up camp in the dark is your aim (easier to hide!). Of course, if you're doing the BB thing, a bit of dusk riding doesn't hurt, except you are much harder to see by other vehicles. Normally best to tour in daylight. Either way, all you should need is a good head-light like a Petzl, a back up light (maybe a second headlight, like a Planet Bike headlight) and rear light (like a Planet Bike Superflash). Rechargeable batteries and a smaller wall charger, depending on the length of the tour. For commuting and randonneuring, it would be hard to beat a hub dynamo system. As an example of component prices: - http://www.bike24.com/1.php?ontent=13search=dynamohttp://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=13search=dynamo A LX level Shimano dynamo with a Lumotec Cyo headlight is an economical combination. I seem to remember Patrick Moore had a combo similar to this at one stage. He might have some insights on this level of dynamo system. I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/E-H1XB42568J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: NIB Saluki 52 cm Pewter w/ 2 Headbadges, 650B - $1,500.00
Funny. Actually, they have a very different feel despite having the same TT length. The Ram is a 52 with lower BB and longer HT, different rake and trail than the Saluki. The Saluki is a 50 with a shallower frame, and handles front weight loads better. Mine has fatter tires and easier gearing. I figured on a road course the Brevet bike (Ram) was a better option. As it was, I was slow both days (wind, hills, lard) so either would have worked. The ATROCIOUS pavement in rural MS between Jackson and Vicksburg would have been much better handled on the Saluki. The Day 2 ride on the Natchez Trace was great on the Ram. I need to get back there and ride that all the way. One of the young bike shop SAG support guys recognized the bike and smirked, Yeah I peek at the web site once in a while to see what old Grant P is up to... On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: A careful statistical analysis reveals that the Ram and the Saluki have a functional overlap of roughly 98.5935%, which is pretty similar, but a person has to come to a decision -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
It's not hardcore to have a flat or mechanical and be riding in the dark. During the last tour we road in total darkness two nights. Lets add the nights that a bar or town is close enough to camp to go to for entertainment. I see touring needing dyno's as much as randonneuring folks and more so than commuters who can charge batteries at night at home. (Note my opinion based on how I tour) Add in Summer tours with 100 degree days and night touring is the best bet to get some added miles without dealing with the extreme heat. I've found nothing dangerous or wrong with night time riding on tour. Once again my opinion. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:47:21 PM UTC-5, IanA wrote: Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. Dusk touring, I understand, but is something to avoid, unless setting up camp in the dark is your aim (easier to hide!). Of course, if you're doing the BB thing, a bit of dusk riding doesn't hurt, except you are much harder to see by other vehicles. Normally best to tour in daylight. Either way, all you should need is a good head-light like a Petzl, a back up light (maybe a second headlight, like a Planet Bike headlight) and rear light (like a Planet Bike Superflash). Rechargeable batteries and a smaller wall charger, depending on the length of the tour. For commuting and randonneuring, it would be hard to beat a hub dynamo system. As an example of component prices: - http://www.bike24.com/1.php?ontent=13search=dynamohttp://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=13search=dynamo A LX level Shimano dynamo with a Lumotec Cyo headlight is an economical combination. I seem to remember Patrick Moore had a combo similar to this at one stage. He might have some insights on this level of dynamo system. I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ns1E2eyhVEMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: 64cm Atlantis
I'm selling my 64cm Atlantis, serial #AT-0141. Frame, fork, headset only. It's an early one, and I've gotten lots of good riding out of it. About a year ago, the rear dropout broke, and the good folks at Riv took it in and repaired it and repainted it the original Atlantis color. We added a kickstand plate, but I wish we'd added fork eyelets. While the frame was being repaired I got myself an AHH, and that has become my main ride. I never built the Atlantis back up, so it is in like new condition, ready for your build. Asking $1,200. I'd prefer to sell it to someone local, in the Bay Area as I had a slight snag with the last time I shipped. But if the Bay Area is saturated with 64cm Atlantis-es, then I'll have it professionally boxed and shipped at cost. Please send me a message off list if interested. Here http://www.flickr.com/photos/34323747@N06/sets/72157631723545067/are some pics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/50ex-tRP1eQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Quickbeam FS
Hey all, it's time. I was debating this sale for a while. Then a friend had a knee injury and was told he needed to give up riding single speeds. So he's keeping one of his bikes and giving me the other. Not a Riv, but a good bike, so my Quickbeam is now available. Pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/88267393@N02/8068020010/in/photostream 62cm Quickbeam Paul brakes FR 36h Phil Wood hubs FR -Front hub has no Phil decal on it, but original owner assured me it was Phil. Looks like it. Slight wear showing, please see pictures. Still rides well, although I mainly used a different Dynamo wheel when I rode this. -Rear is free/fixed with 16 tooth freewheel/cog installed on either side, respectively. Sun rims 700x35 Schwalbe delta cruisers in cream, about 1,000 miles American Classic seatpost Nitto bars stem Sugino 40/32 crankset in 175mm Shimano aero levers Tektro (?) interrupters Bar tape is pretty beat up but functional--will include a new white package that I never got around to installing Small container of touch-up paint included as well, which I've never used -Saddle, pedals and saddlebag not included. I bought this a few years back from the original owner in Sebastopol. I don't think he rode it much. I commuted on this for a year or so, about 1,200 miles, and it rode great. Front brake cable hanger is kept pretty loose (the nuts) otherwise I get some brake shudder. But as is it is setup, shudder is pretty minimal/nonexistent. Would like to sell local (SF Bay Area, specifically Mill Valley), but will ship if need be for actual cost. LBS (Tam Bikes in Mill Valley) will do packaging if that's necessary. Asking $1,300. You can see condition in the photos--paint is still pretty good, except for a few areas (dropouts, under chainstay). Email me offlist please. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u2AfZdoJOLkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Front rack for A. Homer Hilsen
I've got a Mark's rack on my AHH, it fits great and has a tab int he front for mounting a headlight. I have a Supernova E3 mounted on mine. Good luck. -Jimmy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Bom3bp3Djc0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Thanks to everybody for all of your responses. They have been tremendous. I am so impressed with the wide range of knowledge and experience and for you willingness to share that. Much food for thought. Just to clarify, I don't plan to travel much in the dark. But sometimes in the early morning or at the end of the day or on an overcast or raining day having a good source of illumination to see and to be seen is necessary. Also, having access to charge an phone or an IPad is crucial as well. Thanks again, I really appreciate this very much. On Monday, October 8, 2012 2:47:21 PM UTC-4, IanA wrote: Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. Dusk touring, I understand, but is something to avoid, unless setting up camp in the dark is your aim (easier to hide!). Of course, if you're doing the BB thing, a bit of dusk riding doesn't hurt, except you are much harder to see by other vehicles. Normally best to tour in daylight. Either way, all you should need is a good head-light like a Petzl, a back up light (maybe a second headlight, like a Planet Bike headlight) and rear light (like a Planet Bike Superflash). Rechargeable batteries and a smaller wall charger, depending on the length of the tour. For commuting and randonneuring, it would be hard to beat a hub dynamo system. As an example of component prices: - http://www.bike24.com/1.php?ontent=13search=dynamohttp://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=13search=dynamo A LX level Shimano dynamo with a Lumotec Cyo headlight is an economical combination. I seem to remember Patrick Moore had a combo similar to this at one stage. He might have some insights on this level of dynamo system. I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/g7deVzkhGbgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Thanks for the replies thus far they are helpful. I am seriously lacking in knowledge here so bear with me. If I convert to a hub dynamo then I will need to purchase the hub and have it installed in my wheel (read)? And I will need to purchase a light or lights (front and rear) to go with it? Correct? Given that option what brands and models are suggested and where can one purchase these so that I can begin to get some kind of a cost estimate to this. Now, my trips are relatively localized and on a smaller scale but I am looking forward to branching out and taking some much longer Time and distance) trips. Thanks so much. You folks really know about this stuff. It is amazing to me! On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KA9m25FMfegJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] GAP Ride Semi Report
Was this the Adventure Cycling tour? Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: I just got back from the CO and Allegheny Ride between DC and Pittsburgh. It turned out great with rain and a 10 person contingent of great people. Seven from St Louis and three from Detroit. 2 Bombadils and 2 Atlantis's in the group. List members that road were Amit, Tom, and I. Amit and Tom made the entire ride while I caught the flue and bailed with 70ish miles to go. (expensive but damn I was dead in my tracks) Doesn't matter, the trip for me couldn't have been better. Even finding a way back to the car was an adventure.We also lost Amits brother to a knee injury suffered from a fall. it was a pleasure and I'm grateful to have met and rode with Amit, Sumeet, and Tom D out of Detroit. They added an extra dimension to the ride and were fast friends to all from St Louis. We were greeted upon our arrival in DC by Michael R on his A Homer HIlsen. Great guy and enjoyed spending part of the day with him. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8064271265/in/set-72157631715248107 it felt special to be a part of such a great group of people and to share it with my wife. So with no further ado, here are the bike porn photos. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157631715248107/with/8064271265/ Enjoy Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ua4OE8sd_o8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: White Industries Pedals w/leather straps, and DROMARTI Shoes
For Sale! $150: White Industries Urban Platform Peddles: http://www.whiteind.com/pedal.html - Retail for $235 $ 50: Billy Kirk Double Leather Straps - http://store.billykirk.com/store/product/268DPS - Retail for $90 $ 20: Soma 4 Gate Toe Clips - http://store.somafab.com/sodetoecl4.html - Retail for $29 I'd like to sell everything for a package deal of $200, postage paid CONUS. It's all got a total of 150 miles on it - I swear. Toe-clips were once a comfortable set-up for me, but no longer. Slightly scuffed but otherwise like new. Pictured here: https://plus.google.com/photos/101616295581563373309/albums/5797034155482768097 $200: Dromarti Shoes, Size 45 Euro (11 - 11.5 US) http://www.dromarti.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=10_29_14products_id=16 - Retail for $250, plus very expensive international shipping to USA These I wore with the above set-up, only 150 miles on them, slightly-scuffed but otherwise like-new. Pay Pal Only. I've sold a number of items through the RBW Owners Bunch, and its always been a good experience. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HakhEYLazbgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any update on the new low riders?
Are these the lowriders (and Blug post) in question?: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/28936544956/aug-7 I too am interested in any developments. I assume they will be Nitto built? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eZRBUBhRwmIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
Dawn touring makes tons of sense where it's very hot. Even non-hardcore tourists quickly learn the benefit of avoiding 100 degree heat in the full sun. -- Anne On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote: Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 09:16 -0700, Don wrote: Thanks for the replies thus far they are helpful. I am seriously lacking in knowledge here so bear with me. If I convert to a hub dynamo then I will need to purchase the hub and have it installed in my wheel (read)? Yes you will need to have a wheel built around a hub dynamo. And I will need to purchase a light or lights (front and rear) to go with it? Correct? Correct. Given that option what brands and models are suggested and where can one purchase these so that I can begin to get some kind of a cost estimate to this. http://peterwhitecycles.com is an excellent source of information. On his site look under Products - Lights -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
It also makes sense for morning people like me. I'm already awake, I love sunrise, I love riding. Put them all together -Ken On Oct 8, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Dawn touring makes tons of sense where it's very hot. Even non-hardcore tourists quickly learn the benefit of avoiding 100 degree heat in the full sun. -- Anne On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote: Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
I've got the dynohub ending in 71 with the Cyo -- have used this combo on several bikes -- and yes, it is a very good setup. Frankly, the only reason I have something better on my commuter Riv (SON 20 and Edeluxe) is vanity. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:47 PM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote: A LX level Shimano dynamo with a Lumotec Cyo headlight is an economical combination. I seem to remember Patrick Moore had a combo similar to this at one stage. He might have some insights on this level of dynamo system. I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/E-H1XB42568J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Sure - don't get me wrong, I've toured round the clock and have ridden in the pitch black. I still would maintain that basic lighting is enough unless you're making a habit of night riding. But, riding in the dark on tour is not common. Riding at dawn does make a lot of sense especially when hot or you've got lots of miles to cover, but it's not really a time when high efficiency lights are needed. This is based only on personal experience (including one long tour of two years/32,000km) and there are as many opinions as tourers. On Monday, October 8, 2012 2:32:52 PM UTC-6, Kelly wrote: It's not hardcore to have a flat or mechanical and be riding in the dark. During the last tour we road in total darkness two nights. Lets add the nights that a bar or town is close enough to camp to go to for entertainment. I see touring needing dyno's as much as randonneuring folks and more so than commuters who can charge batteries at night at home. (Note my opinion based on how I tour) Add in Summer tours with 100 degree days and night touring is the best bet to get some added miles without dealing with the extreme heat. I've found nothing dangerous or wrong with night time riding on tour. Once again my opinion. Kelly On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:47:21 PM UTC-5, IanA wrote: Dawn touring would be pretty hardcore. Dusk touring, I understand, but is something to avoid, unless setting up camp in the dark is your aim (easier to hide!). Of course, if you're doing the BB thing, a bit of dusk riding doesn't hurt, except you are much harder to see by other vehicles. Normally best to tour in daylight. Either way, all you should need is a good head-light like a Petzl, a back up light (maybe a second headlight, like a Planet Bike headlight) and rear light (like a Planet Bike Superflash). Rechargeable batteries and a smaller wall charger, depending on the length of the tour. For commuting and randonneuring, it would be hard to beat a hub dynamo system. As an example of component prices: - http://www.bike24.com/1.php?ontent=13search=dynamohttp://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=13search=dynamo A LX level Shimano dynamo with a Lumotec Cyo headlight is an economical combination. I seem to remember Patrick Moore had a combo similar to this at one stage. He might have some insights on this level of dynamo system. I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VfREuFwRJQsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
I use a Nite Rider minewt.600 on my Bleriot and I commute after dark. Wireless, small, and a powerful 600 lumens. I would not use less than 600 lumens for riding at night. It comes with a mount for the helmet, and also with a clip on mount for the bars/stem. Works fantastic for me. On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XfyWW-D3IaoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
Note that, beyond a certain surprisingly low minimum, it is less the gross output of a light that makes it desirable for commuting than the shape of the beam. I get much more usable illumination from a 2.4-3W LED in my Cyo or Edeluxe than from the insanely more bright HID light I had some years ago. *The headlight that I use (a generator headlight called the IQ Cyo) is 60 Lux, but uses a LED that only puts out around 150 lumens (CREE XR-E). The lenses just do a good job of putting the light on the ground in front of the cyclist, and not wasting it lighting up trees that are over the road or trail. The MS has 6x the number of lumens, but puts less light onto the ground becuase the light is being distributed everywhere. A lot of that scattered light is going into the eyes of oncoming cyclists and driver's, blinding them.* Another big factor in the efficacy of a headlight: how well the close-up lighting is graduated compared to that in the distance. A very bright uniform beam giving very bright close-up illumination is self defeating since it dazzles you so that you can't see as well in the distance. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:19 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: I use a Nite Rider minewt.600 on my Bleriot and I commute after dark. Wireless, small, and a powerful 600 lumens. I would not use less than 600 lumens for riding at night. It comes with a mount for the helmet, and also with a clip on mount for the bars/stem. Works fantastic for me. On Monday, October 8, 2012 10:42:32 AM UTC-4, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XfyWW-D3IaoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! *http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t* - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just Wrench as next book would be great. Here's why...
Kent always speaks great truths with an economy of words. That's great that he's doing that. Additionally, the Park Tools website has a lot of this info currently available. Not necessarily videos, but good, clear steps for the most part. http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help And, of course on anything that can be reasonably taken apart with common bicycle tools (and some deeper delving, as well), AASHTA* Wrenching is funny business. At one point in my life, I tightened up my loose spokes with a crescent wrench, and the result, which would not even fit into the frame of my bike, caused a good deal of chuckling when the bike was sheepishly carried into the local shop. I once used pretty much the whole roll of solder trying to attach metal rods to a piece of thick plastic for a science experiment in grade school. (Now, the fact that a youngster should be able to gain unsupervised access a soldering iron at that age should say less about my parents and more about my inventiveness in beginning projects.) I clearly had the desire, but not the skills. Luckily, at some point, I did buy a Sloan's manual, and had the disposable time to mis-adjust my way to proper setup, and brought enough tools along on most rides to retorque loosening bolts. Along the way, I pulled apart cameras (mechanical ones) computers and electronic devices (mostly air back then, anyway) and met a few folks that were handy with tools. I gained a finer appreciation for that point when you're about to do something really stupid. I learned that you can force things - some materials more than others. I dug deeper into my bicycles and acquired uniquely specific tools (Shimano 600 headset wrenches, as an example) that did only one odd thing. Pin tools. Third Hands. But, I was lucky to fall under the tutelage of a couple good mechanics. One was a bike mechanic, the other a computer guy. They were methodical and focused. They taught me how to troubleshoot things. They taught me that adding leverage to a bad approach made things much worse, very quickly. They taught me to use the right tool for the job. When I worked in the bike industry, I got to interact frequently with the head mechanics at our stores, and watched a couple of them as they worked on my bike (only let a couple of them do actual work on my bike...) when they noticed something that wasn't quite right. It happened slowly. And I didn't really even realize the extent of the effect until I was helping my dad on his boat and ended up fixing the bilge pump - finding the missing bolt which had fallen inside the pump and would have crunched the internals if it had kicked on. My dad, who had been moderately in favor of just using the other 5 and not worrying about the sixth, gave me a funny look and asked when I had become such a mechanic. Which I really didn't think I was, and in my opinion, compared to folks who actually do that work day in and day out, I most definitely am not. But, that led me to believe that it's mostly about approach. Parts off. Laid down in order. Notes when you need them. Tools back in the rack when you aren't actively using them. Steady pressure. Consistent steps. Thinking it through before you touch a tool. Being present and focused when using the tools. If things get frustrating, setting things down and stepping away. Returning only when you are calm and focused. It sounds kind of ponderous and boring, but it's really a practice. An approach to problem solving. And you faster and more efficient at a lot of the steps. For me, I've never wanted my bike to be a mystery - the technical end of it has always been fascinating. I also depend upon my bicycle to work properly under some very stressful conditions. I do bet my life and bones on it working properly. For me, that's meant me or a reasonably trusted party working on my bicycle. Some people just aren't drawn to that. Or they think they should be but don't have the patience. There's nothing wrong with being in the bigger hammer crowd, but it is helpful if you admit it to yourself before you go at a misadjusted derailleur with a pair of vise grips. Or more likely, they are kind of cursed by the way things get fixed now - most bicycle repairs are the mechanical equivalent of a board swap - where you remove the whole circuit board because there's one bad connection on it. It would take too long to troubleshoot to find the faulty connection, and since everything is microprinted connections, there's little chance of actually redoing the work. That is one of the reasons I've ended up enjoying Rivendell's approach to things. If you have to get all confusing and use multiple gears, then you ought to be able to take the bits apart when they wear out. I've always felt that it's a shame to complicate a simple system - whether fly reels, bicycles, shifters, cameras, shovels or lawn mowers. A good simple tool is
[RBW] Re: lights
I bought my boys wheels with Shimano Alfine hubs last year. Harris sells them. They are great. There's so little drag you can run lights full time. Running lights during the day is worth it. You are very visible. Around the holidays, Harris usually offers a good shipping promotion. http://harriscyclery.net/product/harris-cyclery-generator-front-wheel-sun-cr-18-rim-shimano-alfine-hub-36-dt-spokes-2982.htm On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/L2IL3IfUWqEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: lights
I got my rear 650b alfine wheel done by Harris and have bought wheels off them in the past. They were great. I was looking at longleaf for a 650b dyno front wheel maybe for xmas though. http://www.longleafbicycles.com/products/dynohubs-and-lighting/dynohubs/shimano-dh-3n72-dh-3d72/ On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote: I bought my boys wheels with Shimano Alfine hubs last year. Harris sells them. They are great. There's so little drag you can run lights full time. Running lights during the day is worth it. You are very visible. Around the holidays, Harris usually offers a good shipping promotion. http://harriscyclery.net/product/harris-cyclery-generator-front-wheel-sun-cr-18-rim-shimano-alfine-hub-36-dt-spokes-2982.htm On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:42:32 AM UTC-5, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/L2IL3IfUWqEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Lance won a Tri in my town on Sunday.
There are a lotta Tri's starting at a lake in my town right down the road from my home. I don't know if anyone gave Lance a run for his money. He was also speaking at a forum over the weekend here at a high school. I didn't know he was here. Wife and I went to a fundraiser for animal welfare a few miles from the race start. http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/lance-armstrong-wins-howard-county-triathlon/2012/10/07/452f7f4e-10ba-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_story.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/J1PaJNmfc7AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Kudos to Schwalbe NA
That's fantastic. It is great that a company was looking out for a customer. That's a nice thing in this day and age. I just bought some Marathons from rivbike.com. So it is encouraging to hear this positive experience with Schwalbe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PtBEl3VI9hIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
Forget the running unless you are doing short intense interval sprints..better to lift weights if you want to lose fat. Perhaps a read of Grants latest book will school you all on the subject. It really is a good book and he touches in a basic way the principles for losing fat and proper exercise to help that along and finally its not just about losing fat but rather controlling ones blood sugar levels that is the important part of eating low carb i.e. animal protein, eggs, saturated fats i.e. coconut oil, fish oil, animal fat (olive oil eaten cold) large amounts of leafy greens, some nuts berries and limited fruit. And Jim.thanks, you related it well. if you aren't fat it doesn't apply to you...so only fat people or those battling fat loss, diabetes, or any other inflammatory condition may comment from now on.If you are a leaned out super stud with no health problems due to your diet you may rest on the knowledge that you are invincible ; ) On Monday, October 8, 2012 8:34:54 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: Once upon a time, 20 years ago, I was a skinny 6', 145lb Marine... But after learning how to eat everything I could get my hands on, then getting out of constant activity and sitting on my duff for years of grad school, I found myself 10 years ago tipping the scales at 280lbs... I went on a carb-free diet for a year (no breads, no potatoes, no sugars, best I could manage), and finally got down to 200lbs. But something clicked in my head; er, rather, internally, something snapped, regardless of my head thinking otherwise... if I thought about not eating a roll, I ate the pan of rolls; if I thought about not eating a slice of pie, I ate the pie. It was really weird, I just couldn't not eat carbs at all. So, I gave up, went back to 'normal', and the weight crept back on. Wanting to do something about it again, is when I got back into riding a few years ago; but as Grant's pointed out, riding alone won't drop pounds. This past spring, seeing the scale back up at 260, I finally started watching the carbs again. Took all summer, to get down to 235 now; that much weight actually dropped fast early on, but then I got stuck, and have been... For the past two months, I'm stuck at 235, 236, 237, and no more has come off... I really want to get down to 200 (further, eventually, but 200 is my initial goal); so, since my diet alone, nor w/ biking is helping, I'm thinking about mixing a bit of running in, to help get the loss moving. Aside from 'health', a large part of wanting to get my weight down, is to help my hill-climbing on my bikes Patrick ( and Jim), Tying your two thoughts together on alcohol: when I had the opportunity to spend a week in Albuquerque this past summer, I was shocked at the quantity of cheap liquor available even in WalMart there And noting the sizes of those purchasers buying in quantity, none were petite... I do like an occasional beer myself, but singularly, not in quantity, and I now keep them further between... Instead of a weekly beer, anymore it's closer to a monthly beer, just avoiding carbs (many of my geologist colleagues are hard drinkers, but only a few would I classify as alcoholics (but there are some); I enjoy a drink or two, but despise getting drunk, one and done is great for me; but I completely understand, not even getting started if that's what someone needs to do...). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/udJN7-CUeqcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
A generator front and rear light system is the best thing I have ever done for my bicycle. It turned my ride into a useful vehicle rather than a fair weather day rider. Lights on all the time is a good safety feature. I notice auto drivers see me sooner especially when I'm in the shadows, even on a sunny day. If you have a short (five mile or less) commute a high quality battery set up will suffice ( Phillips headlight 80 Lux and maybe a Planet bike super flash rear) On Monday, October 8, 2012 7:42:32 AM UTC-7, Don wrote: I would appreciate a discussion of the various option of putting lights (front and rear) on my Sam H. I don't plan on doing much after dark riding but would like to have the illumination for dusk and dawn situation while touring. I am thinking of such things as: battery versus generator, brands, models, placement. Any insights would be appreciated. Benefitting from the experience of others will be a big help. Thanks Don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uFFiO2Ra8wcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just Wrench as next book would be great. Here's why...
Jim: As always, thanks for the thoughtful discussion. Many of the observations regarding thinking things through before pickup any tools, not forcing things, etc., are universal. I've always enjoyed working on my own bikes those of friends, etc., and have gotten used to a certain baseline level of quality in components. As members of this group, we have a certain appreciation for stuff that works well, even in fairly basic grades. Components that are decently made, work well and are intended to be maintained and adjusted. These things make life good. Recently I've been working through an inventory of cast-off bikes (donations from police depts, big box store returns, etc.) at a local charity. These are typically not well made in the first place and are equipped with unlabeled components. Most of the fasteners are some form of steel (they rust instantly) but are quite soft require a gentle touch. In short, they are meant to sell (in the $100-$200 range) but never be worked on. Needless to say, I would starve as a flat rate mechanic working on these. There is, however, a certain challenge to bringing these up to functionality, and satisfaction in doing so. Fortunately I control the pace volume of my work and so am able to quit when I've had my fill of wrenching. A bonus is that it keeps me from screwing around with my Atlantis. dougP On Monday, October 8, 2012 3:36:55 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: Kent always speaks great truths with an economy of words. That's great that he's doing that. Additionally, the Park Tools website has a lot of this info currently available. Not necessarily videos, but good, clear steps for the most part. http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help And, of course on anything that can be reasonably taken apart with common bicycle tools (and some deeper delving, as well), AASHTA* Wrenching is funny business. At one point in my life, I tightened up my loose spokes with a crescent wrench, and the result, which would not even fit into the frame of my bike, caused a good deal of chuckling when the bike was sheepishly carried into the local shop. I once used pretty much the whole roll of solder trying to attach metal rods to a piece of thick plastic for a science experiment in grade school. (Now, the fact that a youngster should be able to gain unsupervised access a soldering iron at that age should say less about my parents and more about my inventiveness in beginning projects.) I clearly had the desire, but not the skills. Luckily, at some point, I did buy a Sloan's manual, and had the disposable time to mis-adjust my way to proper setup, and brought enough tools along on most rides to retorque loosening bolts. Along the way, I pulled apart cameras (mechanical ones) computers and electronic devices (mostly air back then, anyway) and met a few folks that were handy with tools. I gained a finer appreciation for that point when you're about to do something really stupid. I learned that you can force things - some materials more than others. I dug deeper into my bicycles and acquired uniquely specific tools (Shimano 600 headset wrenches, as an example) that did only one odd thing. Pin tools. Third Hands. But, I was lucky to fall under the tutelage of a couple good mechanics. One was a bike mechanic, the other a computer guy. They were methodical and focused. They taught me how to troubleshoot things. They taught me that adding leverage to a bad approach made things much worse, very quickly. They taught me to use the right tool for the job. When I worked in the bike industry, I got to interact frequently with the head mechanics at our stores, and watched a couple of them as they worked on my bike (only let a couple of them do actual work on my bike...) when they noticed something that wasn't quite right. It happened slowly. And I didn't really even realize the extent of the effect until I was helping my dad on his boat and ended up fixing the bilge pump - finding the missing bolt which had fallen inside the pump and would have crunched the internals if it had kicked on. My dad, who had been moderately in favor of just using the other 5 and not worrying about the sixth, gave me a funny look and asked when I had become such a mechanic. Which I really didn't think I was, and in my opinion, compared to folks who actually do that work day in and day out, I most definitely am not. But, that led me to believe that it's mostly about approach. Parts off. Laid down in order. Notes when you need them. Tools back in the rack when you aren't actively using them. Steady pressure. Consistent steps. Thinking it through before you touch a tool. Being present and focused when using the tools. If things get frustrating, setting things down and stepping away. Returning only when you are calm and focused. It sounds kind of ponderous and
[RBW] Re: lights
I have a 3 mile commute on lit city streets and battery lights will easily suffice. I used a PB Superflash rear and 2W Blaze in front for 2 years with no ptoblem. Even though the beam pattern of the Blaze wasn't ideal, I loved that it had a psycho flash mode for daytime riding. Nonetheless I upgraded to a dynamo system and tonight was my first ride home with it. It's very nice to just ride and go, with no battery anxiety. I have an IQ Cyo up front and a Toplight Line Plus Brake in the rear. Love them both so far, along with the SP hub dyno that's powering them. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3xJKGajVoqoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
Someone said: Patrick ( and Jim), Tying your two thoughts together on alcohol: when I had the opportunity to spend a week in Albuquerque this past summer, I was shocked at the quantity of cheap liquor available even in WalMart there And noting the sizes of those purchasers buying in quantity, none were petite.. How does wine (or spirits) fit into the low carb regimen? I can't see that it's good to forgo wine! Even cheap wine! Beer and spirits, yes, but wine is from heaven and must not be neglected. Wine prices -- those on that very fine line between inexpensive but drinkable and inexpensive but why bother -- are cheaper than beer, here, unless you drink Bud or similar swill. WalMart: yes, the demographic here in ABQ is 20 lb heavier and 3 shorter than the national average. Is it like that elsewhere? Personally, I have to be dragged screaming into WM, so I haven't a lot of experience with it. - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
May I steal this phrase, and use it in my own conversations? It is brilliant! On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:05 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: but wine is from heaven and must not be neglected. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Couple Rambouillet questions...
How about a green 56? http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/3314490471.html -Andy On Oct 6, 9:24 pm, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Blue, 56, would be mine, as long as the wife was ok with it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
I was just now reading an essay about the life, works and influence of Woodie Guthrie (here if you want it: http://chronicle.com/article/Woody-Guthrie-at-100/134838/) In a 1999 essay, Seeger recalled that his friend's view of copyright was not exactly exclusive, and ran something like this: Anyone caught singing one of these songs ... will be a good friend of mine, because that's why I wrote 'em. (I do not claim equal stature to WG.) (Here is an even more interesting essay about even more important people: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/oct/25/tragedy-dietrich-bonhoeffer-and-hans-von-dohnanyi/?pagination=false) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:29 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: May I steal this phrase, and use it in my own conversations? It is brilliant! On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:05 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: but wine is from heaven and must not be neglected. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
Pete How has the SP hub treated you. I just put one in service on my quickbeam and love it so far. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/98juvD2gmckJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bleriot steerer tubes butted or not?
Just wondering if anyone knows, offhand. The bottom of my Technomic is nowhere near the bottom of the tube but just wanted to know for future reference to avoid the potential problem as illustrated here on: http://sheldonbrown.com/handsup.html about being careful to not have the quill down into the butted section of a steerer. I'd call Rivendell to ask, but since I didn't buy the bike new, I'd feel funny calling about it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GBXRrYRwg4IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bleriot steerer tubes butted or not?
Put it where you want it, tighten it down. Then hold the wheel between your knees and twist the bar side to side. If the stem doesn't come loose under such force, you should be ok. You can repeat this test every so often if it makes you feel better. On Monday, October 8, 2012 11:44:47 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: Just wondering if anyone knows, offhand. The bottom of my Technomic is nowhere near the bottom of the tube but just wanted to know for future reference to avoid the potential problem as illustrated here on: http://sheldonbrown.com/handsup.html about being careful to not have the quill down into the butted section of a steerer. I'd call Rivendell to ask, but since I didn't buy the bike new, I'd feel funny calling about it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/R1dKKp9CahYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: lights
I have the SP hub from VO with the clutch on my Surly..and a BM Daylight Running light Fly headlamp and Toplight line tail lightit is nice to just ride along and know I have a constant running tail light and adequate head light. It even comes in handy in the daylight, at dusk and in the fog and rain etc. My visibility to others is improved and that makes my wife happier. On Monday, October 8, 2012 6:48:07 PM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: I have a 3 mile commute on lit city streets and battery lights will easily suffice. I used a PB Superflash rear and 2W Blaze in front for 2 years with no ptoblem. Even though the beam pattern of the Blaze wasn't ideal, I loved that it had a psycho flash mode for daytime riding. Nonetheless I upgraded to a dynamo system and tonight was my first ride home with it. It's very nice to just ride and go, with no battery anxiety. I have an IQ Cyo up front and a Toplight Line Plus Brake in the rear. Love them both so far, along with the SP hub dyno that's powering them. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/edDAPYBA8EsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
