Re: [RBW] Alternatives to MUSA pants and knickers?

2014-11-09 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
looks like the swrve sprinter knickers are roomier than their other offerings

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Re: [RBW] Are P clamps supposed to do this?

2014-11-09 Thread David Hays
I just mounted Nitto M18s on two bikes that lack fork eyelets and used the 
rubber/stainless steel clamps that come with the rack.
I had some concerns but when I used the smaller clamps and looked at the 
geometry I realized the force placed on the clamps by the weight of the rack 
push the clamp into and not down the fork blade.
Nothing conclusive but my take so far.


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 Front rack feels rock solid when pulling on the rack.
 
 But if I grab the rubber p clamps themselves, I can sorta slide them a bit a 
 few mm's. Is this just how P clamps are supposed to be?
 
 Bolts are totally snugged up and forks under p clamps are lined with bartape.
 
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Are P clamps supposed to do this?

2014-11-09 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
I have seen two types of P clamps over the years, but both are secure if you 
use the correct size.  The first type, which I haven't seen in a while, are 
merely coated with a thin layer of plastic; the second type are lined with a 
thick rubber layer.  You calm get the latter in lots of sizes at big box 
hardware stores.  Like I said, if you use the right size, they should be secure 
and show no sign of moving.  The only thing I have ever used under them was 
electrical tape (with the older kind) to protect the frame.

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[RBW] Re: New-Bombadil-Day!

2014-11-09 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I've been riding a 1983 MTB with 55mm Big Apples and really enjoying it.  A 
lot.   It makes me have a much greater appreciation for the Bombadil.  I've 
been curious about 650B wheels for some time and right now, a Bombadil just 
checks all the right boxes for me.  



On Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:42:16 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Pardon the poor image quality... I met up with Tom at about 4:30 today to 
 pick up my new blue 56 Bombadil. It was a real pleasure meeting you Tom, 
 thanks for the fantastic bike!

 While the bike came with a sweet Bullmoose cockpit I have a ~80 mile ride 
 planned for Veterans Day and I didn't think I could hack the upright 
 cockpit for that long of a day so I went into a crash build tonight with 
 parts from all over the garage... good thing my Saluki is still down for 
 the count as many of her parts were pressed into service.  And yes as 
 you'll see the Co-Op Nitto Handle Works Forged stem did make the initial 
 build! :)  Build highlights;

 56 Bombadil - taller and bigger than I had expected... very close 
 dimensions to my 60 Saluki
 48cm Noodle handlebars w/ Nitto forged stem
 Bruce Gordon Canti's (super sweet, thanks Tom!)
 Sugino Triple off my Saluki
 Velocity 32H 650B wheelset off my Saluki
 Vee Rubber 650Bx1.95 Tires
 VO Orange brake cable housing
 Silver Shifter (rear/right only)
 No FD, stick shift for now
 Nitto R-14 rear rack / Nitto saddlebag QR  Carradice longflap

 I think that's about it, I'll be commuting in tomorrow morning thanks to 
 the successful build tonight... Can't wait!

 Tony



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Re: [RBW] OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-09 Thread Kendallspower
I have worked with a bear trainer (on set) that brought a half grizzly half 
brown bear that refused to eat meat. He told me that he has encountered one 
other that was vegetarian.

There are no absolutes...

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:04:01 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:

 Humans, like bears, pigs, and rats, are omnivores. 
 A true carnivore cannot move its jaw from side to side to grind its food.
 There are monogastric herbivores, like horses and rabbits. Using cows' 
 guts to prove humans must be carnivores is rhetoric, not science.

 http://www.saylor.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/BIO309-OC-3.8.1-Comparison-of-Digestive-Systems-FINAL.pdf

 Philip
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Re: [RBW] WTB Nitto Campee front rack

2014-11-09 Thread Kendallspower
Great info. thank you. Did you purchases the bends or bend them yourself?

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 2:51:18 PM UTC-8, danmc wrote:

 There is (or was) a 650B version available. Might be one still in stock 
 somewhere. Straight mount at dropouts but more clearance than the 26 
 version. I did a bent strut hack to mount at the mid-fork braze-ons instead 
 of canti posts. Works great. 

 Dan




 On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 As far as I understand, they come in two sizes:  a 700 / 650 sized one 
 that you pictured (with angled mounts), and a 26 version (with straight 
 mounts, presumably to attach to the front of the fork).

 Best of luck,
 Tim

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 javascript: wrote:

 Looking for both 650  700 sizes. Missing panniers okay.

 Thank you

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[RBW] Re: Are P clamps supposed to do this?

2014-11-09 Thread 'Jason Cloutier' via RBW Owners Bunch
If you're mounting the p-clamp on the tapered part of the fork, you may not 
be getting enough grip for the clamp to work effectively.

Jason Cloutier
Pawtucket, RI

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 3:46:29 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 Front rack feels rock solid when pulling on the rack.

 But if I grab the rubber p clamps themselves, I can sorta slide them a bit 
 a few mm's. Is this just how P clamps are supposed to be?

 Bolts are totally snugged up and forks under p clamps are lined with 
 bartape.




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Re: [RBW] WTB Nitto Campee front rack

2014-11-09 Thread Kendallspower
Thanks for the links and info. I'm kinda a Nitto guy tho.(silly)

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 2:10:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:

 Does her Betty Foy have eyelets on the front and back of the fork dropouts 
 http://38.media.tumblr.com/d34a0a2afbdf5798f997e822945aa2c9/tumblr_ndv9fx7wXs1qe3ngpo3_1280.jpg?
   
 If so, then the 26 version 
 https://www.benscycle.com/p-2125-nitto-campee-front-rack-26.aspx would 
 work fine on the front eyelets, and the 700c version 
 https://www.benscycle.com/p-2096-nitto-campee-front-rack-700c.aspx 
 would work fine on the rear.  I don't know what the difference it the 
 platform height may be.

 I have a 26 version of the Campee Classic, mounted with tubus stay 
 clamps and fork clamps 
 http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Fit%20Solutions/FIT%20SOLUTIONS%20PAGE.htm
  
 on my girlfriend's San Marcos.  It's a very, very, very nice rack.  The 
 panniers carry the weight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc5YuMsDTRE 
 nice and low and makes the whole front end quite stable, totally unlike how 
 a high-mounted front load makes the front end flop.  Without the panniers, 
 it is a very attractive rack with a vintage french Randonneur style.  

 If you just want that style without the panniers, the VO Constructeur 
 http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/vo-constructeur-front-rack.html
  
 is not a bad choice.  In fact, I had one on her San Marcos before I 
 equipped it with the Campee Classic.  It was used as a support for a front 
 basket 
 http://houseoftalents.com/shop/bicycle-basket/asungtaba-bike-basket-399/#!prettyPhoto.
   
 She prefers how the bike handles with the weight down low on the panniers.

 The VO has some cons:  1) it mounts with a fork daruma, though you may be 
 able to bend the tang up to the brake bolt. 2) it works best when mounted 
 to the front eyelet, otherwise the platform is forward of level. 3) it's 
 not as beautiful up close as the Nitto; the welds are visible instead of 
 Nitto's perfect fillets.

 But it's only $100.  

 Another option is the Soma Champs Elyssees 
 http://store.somafab.com/sochelfrra.html rack for $120.  It can mount 
 to either the axle or the front eyelet, and it mounts with a tang to the 
 brake bolt instead of a daruma.  I have no experience with it but it looks 
 decent.

 Or, Bruce Gordon or many other US frame builders could custom up exactly 
 what you'd like, for about the price of the Nitto Campee Classic.

 Cheers,
 Tim

 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Kendallspower kendal...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hmmm. I want one for the wifes Betty. You think the 26 is better?

 On Friday, November 7, 2014 2:20:20 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:

 As far as I understand, they come in two sizes:  a 700 / 650 sized one 
 that you pictured (with angled mounts), and a 26 version (with straight 
 mounts, presumably to attach to the front of the fork).

 Best of luck,
 Tim

 On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Kendallspower kendal...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Looking for both 650  700 sizes. Missing panniers okay.

 Thank you

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[RBW] Nitto big front rack q / hello

2014-11-09 Thread drew beckmeyer
Hey,
I'm new here, but this group has already been a great resource. I've been 
building up my new hunqapillar, and have come to front rack attachment. I've 
seen posts where the big front rack has been attached without p-clamps. For 
some reason, those methods didn't really work for me. I ended up attaching the 
rack without the clamps but somewhat differently than I've seen before. Lower 
fork eyelets attached to rack via struts attached to the inside of the fork.
So here are my questions:

Is it a problem to attach the struts to the inside of the fork (about 1cm of 
clearance on each side between bolt and spoke)?

Is it an issue that the points of connection to the fork are the dropout 
eyelets and the lower mid-fork mounts? Would it be more stable with the second 
attachment to the higher mounts? Am I stressing anything too much? Etc etc etc.

Pics should be attached. Thanks in advance

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheel Stabilizer or no?

2014-11-09 Thread Tim Gavin
I second what Matt's saying here.  If you carried the weight down low in
panniers, it would feel a lot more stable.

When I first set up my girlfriend's San Marcos, she tried a lovely House of
Talents basket
http://houseoftalents.com/shop/bicycle-basket/asungtaba-bike-basket-368/
on the handlebars, supported by a VO Constructeur
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-constructeur-front-rack.html
rack.  She hated how much the wheel flopped with any load in the
basket--especially her awesome-but-heavy Abus chain.

For RAGBRAI, I switched those out for a Campee Classic
https://www.benscycle.com/p-2125-nitto-campee-front-rack-26.aspx, with
medium panniers on the lowrider frames.  She loves how the low load makes
the front end more stable, even with the load unbalanced to one side or the
other (seriously, that chain is like 3.5 lbs).  Her San Marcos now obeys
when she tells it to sit on its single kickstand.  She refuses to give
the rack and bags back!  But that's OK, because I'm paid back by her
satisfied smiles when she rides it.

Of course, getting set up with a front lowrider rack and bags wouldn't be
cheap.  The HAR http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rmf2.htm would bolt
right on to your Betty, as would the Big Front
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r5.htm or the similar/cheaper/less
pretty Surly Nice Rack http://surlybikes.com/parts/cargo/surly_rack.
There are other lowrider racks, like the Tubus one that Peter White has
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/tubus_racks.asp, but I don't know if
their mount points would match up easily to your mid-fork eyelets.  But
clamps work fine.

From there you could attach any kind of bags (waxed canvas is great,
waterproof roll-tops are great) or even buckets
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GlsdABloJOQ/TBkVKXFdfKI/ACM/_oWNBycvU6g/s1600/Buckets+2.JPG
or baskets
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/da/99/92/da9992ed8733caf20f22024a129bb1e7.jpg.
The Ortlieb hooks http://www.ortliebusa.com/ProdList.asp?scat=21 are
secure yet easy-on/easy-off, and could be attached to anything.

A double kickstand would be cheaper!  But moving the load lower on the
front would improve handling while riding and while parked.  Something to
think about.

Cheers,
Tim

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:42 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch 
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Cecily,

 A possible solution could be the Mark's Hub Area Rack.  Due to it's lower
 center of gravity I'd think it would have less flop.  That combined with a
 double legged kick stand should almost guarantee a solution.   But hey
 ...  no guarantees :)

 Matt

 On Friday, October 31, 2014 5:25:43 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:

 Since putting a Mark's Rack and a basket on the front of my Betty Foy, my
 front handlebars flop most prodigiously (and annoyingly) when there's
 anything in the basket. I'm writing to get you folks' opinions on wheel
 stabilizers, or any other solutions you can think of to fight the flop.

 Cheers,
 Cecily

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Re: [RBW] Nitto big front rack q / hello

2014-11-09 Thread Tim Gavin
If everything is clamped down tight, then that should hold.  Nitto (and
Riv) hardware is plenty strong.  And 1 cm of clearance should be plenty.

However, that seems sub-optimal, for the reasons you already supposed.  I
think it would be better to use the upper eyelets on the front.  If you
can't get a straight Nitto strut to work there, then maybe try a piece of
flat stock to bridge the gap.  Like a chunk of a chainring
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/8718438496/?

Cheers,
Tim

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:15 PM, drew beckmeyer drewbeckme...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hey,
 I'm new here, but this group has already been a great resource. I've been
 building up my new hunqapillar, and have come to front rack attachment.
 I've seen posts where the big front rack has been attached without
 p-clamps. For some reason, those methods didn't really work for me. I ended
 up attaching the rack without the clamps but somewhat differently than I've
 seen before. Lower fork eyelets attached to rack via struts attached to the
 inside of the fork.
 So here are my questions:

 Is it a problem to attach the struts to the inside of the fork (about 1cm
 of clearance on each side between bolt and spoke)?

 Is it an issue that the points of connection to the fork are the dropout
 eyelets and the lower mid-fork mounts? Would it be more stable with the
 second attachment to the higher mounts? Am I stressing anything too much?
 Etc etc etc.

 Pics should be attached. Thanks in advance

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[RBW] WTB: Velocity Aerohead Rim

2014-11-09 Thread Eric Norris
Anybody out there here  32H silver Aerohead rim? Just checked, any my Quickbeam 
needs a new front rim.

Thanks in advance.

—Eric N

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Velocity Aerohead Rim

2014-11-09 Thread Eric Norris
Wow … having trouble typing this morning. Does anybody *have* an Aerohead rim?  
That you’d like to sell?

—Eric


 On Nov 9, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Anybody out there here  32H silver Aerohead rim? Just checked, any my 
 Quickbeam needs a new front rim.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 —Eric N
 
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Re: [RBW] WTB Nitto Campee front rack

2014-11-09 Thread Dan McNamara
The bent ones that RBW sells worked worked pretty well. 12.5cm as I recall but 
it might have been 15cm. I used a slightly longer bolt and a spacer at the 
outside mid-fork mount. I'll send a picture. 

Dan





 On Nov 8, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Kendallspower kendallfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Great info. thank you. Did you purchases the bends or bend them yourself?
 
 On Saturday, November 8, 2014 2:51:18 PM UTC-8, danmc wrote:
 There is (or was) a 650B version available. Might be one still in stock 
 somewhere. Straight mount at dropouts but more clearance than the 26 
 version. I did a bent strut hack to mount at the mid-fork braze-ons instead 
 of canti posts. Works great. 
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 
 On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag.com wrote:
 
 As far as I understand, they come in two sizes:  a 700 / 650 sized one that 
 you pictured (with angled mounts), and a 26 version (with straight mounts, 
 presumably to attach to the front of the fork).
 
 Best of luck,
 Tim
 
 On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Kendallspower kendal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looking for both 650  700 sizes. Missing panniers okay.
 
 Thank you
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[RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-09 Thread David Banzer
Since I don't need the last word...can we agree to wrap this up on this 
forum by, say, Monday Noon? Whatevs-

Agreed, as the OP, I was hesitant to post this here as I assumed 
(correctly) that this would thread would devolve as it did. My original 
questions were merely asking for those who had experience with a similar 
diet that Grant discusses. I wasn't really asking for judgement calls from 
those who do not have experience with this diet... However, everyone is 
entitled to an opinion.
I'll restate my original questions (though I've received an adequate number 
of responses on  off list):
Anyone follow a similar diet?
Your general experiences?
Your reasons for adopting this diet, and your experience in the transition 
period?
Difficulties?
What would you bring on a lengthy bike ride (bike-related!) or overnight?

If you have a response to these questions - please respond directly offlist 
either as a PM or to daban...@gmail.com.

I agree with Grant that this thread should be wrapped up, and any debates 
about diet practices should be directed directly to Grant at his given 
email for his book, or directly to those you'd like to have a conversation 
with, all off-list. 

This thread has given some lively discussion. It started as an OT post (my 
fault), but has gone even further off-topic from the RBW-OB typical 
discussions.
So yes, let's wrap this up by Monday.
Thanks for all the discussion.
David
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Are P clamps supposed to do this?

2014-11-09 Thread lungimsam
The VO rack came with the rubber coated ones. Too tight.

So I got a 14 size from LBS  that looks like the Riv type with the thick 
rubber strips on the inside.
When installed, the rack is solid. But if I looked down along the fork 
 blade (clamp is about 4 or so inches below fork crown) I could see 
daylight along the sides of the clamp, but the front and back are tight, 
and the clamp was tight to bring the tabs together, so I figure it is the 
right size. But I could wiggle the clamps by hand when it was just the 
clamps.

I put one turn of bartape around the fork, and that filled the daylight 
sliver gaps, and although the rack is solid, I can still wiggle the clamp 
by hand if I pull on it. If I grab the rack and pull up and down I detect 
no movement..

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[RBW] Re: Nitto big front rack q / hello

2014-11-09 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hunquapiller is nice! I bought a New Nitto Front Rack and just got done 
installing it. P-clamps are a pain but they are the best solution overall. 
Only one bolt on each side. Less flex than having long arms. Lighter, 
stiffer, cleaner look etc. When I had my Atlantis repainted I had some 
barrel braze ons attached to the fork in the standard mid fork position. It 
bugs me that I have a braze on 1.25 inches from the fork slot that I can't 
use. I am extremely anal and fastidious on my bike set up and if I was you, 
I'd go with the P-clamps
Clayton Bailey

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:15:14 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote:

 Hey,
 I'm new here, but this group has already been a great resource. I've been 
 building up my new hunqapillar, and have come to front rack attachment. 
 I've seen posts where the big front rack has been attached without 
 p-clamps. For some reason, those methods didn't really work for me. I ended 
 up attaching the rack without the clamps but somewhat differently than I've 
 seen before. Lower fork eyelets attached to rack via struts attached to the 
 inside of the fork.
 So here are my questions:

 Is it a problem to attach the struts to the inside of the fork (about 1cm 
 of clearance on each side between bolt and spoke)?

 Is it an issue that the points of connection to the fork are the dropout 
 eyelets and the lower mid-fork mounts? Would it be more stable with the 
 second attachment to the higher mounts? Am I stressing anything too much? 
 Etc etc etc.

 Pics should be attached. Thanks in advance



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[RBW] FS: Surly Disc Trucker Frameset Rivet Saddle

2014-11-09 Thread Brian Campbell
Both sold!

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[RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-09 Thread Chris Halasz
David, 

*Your general experiences? *

Not a lot of change with a diet like this for us from an otherwise balanced 
with healthy grain diet in body mass or otherwise. Our cholesterol jumped a 
little, but that's subject to fluctuation anyway. 

On good vs bad cholesterol, see 
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/health/research/hdl-good-cholesterol-found-not-to-cut-heart-risk.html?_r=0
 


Don't know if that's truth or truthy, just another data point. 

*Your reasons for adopting this diet, and your experience in the transition 
period? *

Read Mark Sisson's blog a few years ago, and it sounded like it made sense. 
Now it doesn't so much. I watched this recently: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMOjVYgYaG8 

*Difficulties? *

We were pretty strict on the diet for about two years. We were probably 
constipated the whole time. Ate only grain fed beef and fish (which, BTW, 
is typically just cattle fed bales of alfalfa instead of grain). 

My wife and I are both fairly trim (I'm 6'1, about 170 lbs), she's a size 
four. We pretty much went back to just veggies, some whole grains, and fish 
(occasionally) when we're out to dinner. Likewise any refined sugar. My 
wife felt better immediately after leaving the heavy meat Paleo, and shed 
about four or five pounds. 

Also struggled with the sustainability of a high meat Paleo diet. Don't 
think too many Paleolithic creatures were eating bacon. Maybe more rotting 
carcases on the veranda. Maybe that's what gave us the tongue for umami. 
Bacon? See 
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/05/business/PEDv-plagues-the-pork-industry-and-environmentalists.html
 


I wonder what goes on in the intestines and glandular functions with a high 
animal tissue diet. Maybe Grant's book will discuss that. I know he's 
looking into a lot of this stuff, and I'll be curious to read about it. 

*What would you bring on a lengthy bike ride (bike-related!) or overnight? *

Long bike ride? Lots of sugar is supposedly consumed with impunity. See 
Gretchen Reynolds' book on diet for bike rides: 
http://www.amazon.com/The-First-20-Minutes-Surprising/dp/B00CY5AUYA

Overnight? Food you really like. Warm food if it's going to be cold. We 
like soup! 

Cheers, 

Chris  

On Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:32:59 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:

 Since I don't need the last word...can we agree to wrap this up on this 
 forum by, say, Monday Noon? Whatevs-

 Agreed, as the OP, I was hesitant to post this here as I assumed 
 (correctly) that this would thread would devolve as it did. My original 
 questions were merely asking for those who had experience with a similar 
 diet that Grant discusses. I wasn't really asking for judgement calls from 
 those who do not have experience with this diet... However, everyone is 
 entitled to an opinion.
 I'll restate my original questions (though I've received an adequate 
 number of responses on  off list):
 Anyone follow a similar diet?
 Your general experiences?
 Your reasons for adopting this diet, and your experience in the transition 
 period?
 Difficulties?
 What would you bring on a lengthy bike ride (bike-related!) or overnight?

 If you have a response to these questions - please respond directly 
 offlist either as a PM or to daba...@gmail.com javascript:.

 I agree with Grant that this thread should be wrapped up, and any debates 
 about diet practices should be directed directly to Grant at his given 
 email for his book, or directly to those you'd like to have a conversation 
 with, all off-list. 

 This thread has given some lively discussion. It started as an OT post (my 
 fault), but has gone even further off-topic from the RBW-OB typical 
 discussions.
 So yes, let's wrap this up by Monday.
 Thanks for all the discussion.
 David
 Chicago



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[RBW] Re: Nitto big front rack q / hello

2014-11-09 Thread drew beckmeyer
Haha yeah, the idea of having 2 sets of braze ons that close and neither of 
them being all that useable is quite frustrating. I probably need to just stop 
fighting it and resign myself to the p-clamps Though that chainring hack 
looks pretty good. 

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[RBW] Re: Nitto big front rack q / hello

2014-11-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Welcome! I'm no help with the big front rack, as I use Mark's rack on my 
Hunqapillar. I look forward to seeing a full shot of your build and hearing 
ride reports of fantastic adventures!

 With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Hey Chris,

The paleo diet I am on replaces the carbs with fat, not protein. I 
actually eat less protein now than I did before the switch. Also, gut flora 
and function often is out of whack due to grains and their anti-nutrients 
and thus needs specific steps to help heal it.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Biking with the future wifey.

2014-11-09 Thread Jim M.
The first S24O wedding on top of Mt Diablo, right? I'll bring the 
bacon-wrapped hot dogs.

jim m
wc ca

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:43:02 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 You know it's true love when you decide that a ride with a love one is 
 more important than a ride for yourself. 

 Pictures proved that I am incredibly lucky to have someone to join me:
 https://flic.kr/s/aHsk62KXd2

 Manny Weddings are expensive Acosta


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Re: [RBW] Re: Biking with the future wifey.

2014-11-09 Thread James Warren

Last summer's Rivendell Jamboree was subtitled Riv's 20th Anniversary. Many of 
us said let's do it again next summer.

The summer of 2015 Rivendell Jamboree could be subtitled Manny's Bachelor Party.


On Nov 9, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Jim M. wrote:

 The first S24O wedding on top of Mt Diablo, right? I'll bring the 
 bacon-wrapped hot dogs.
 
 jim m
 wc ca
 
 On Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:43:02 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
 You know it's true love when you decide that a ride with a love one is more 
 important than a ride for yourself. 
 
 Pictures proved that I am incredibly lucky to have someone to join me:
 https://flic.kr/s/aHsk62KXd2
 
 Manny Weddings are expensive Acosta
 
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[RBW] Re: FS: 66cm orange Rambouillet F/F/HS

2014-11-09 Thread Kieran J
Sale pending.


On Saturday, November 8, 2014 1:03:40 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 I have a Rivendell Rambouillet frameset I'm getting ready to re-home. The 
 plan is to move up one size to a 68cm. 

 About this one:

- Orange.
- It’s what Riv called a 66, so it’s: 
   - 64cm ST, C-C 
   - 60cm TT
   - 92.5cm standover with 33.3 Jack Browns. 
- The JBs are the ideal 700c tire for this frame. Nice comfortable 
amount of clearance, but not much more.
- Other wheel options are 700x28/fenders or 650bx42 Hetres/fenders!
- Comes with original and still-smooth Ultegra headset installed. 
- Paint is OK; lots of nicks and chips, but looks fairly presentable. 
No dents and everything is straight.
- There is some evidence of surface rust inside the tubes. Would be a 
good candidate for a renovation or a commuter. 
- I will include a new set of Rambouillet decals obtained from Riv, in 
case the prospective new owner does a respray.

 Here's a picture of the bike built up. I'd be happy to send along more 
 detailed photos to anyone seriously interested.
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/70712473@N05/13972946383/

 I'm looking for $575 + shipping. I should be in the States in the next 
 couple of weeks to pick up Mr. 68cm, so I could conceivable ship this out 
 from there to save $$.

 Thanks!

 Kieran 
 Toronto, Canada



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[RBW] Re: Biking with the future wifey.

2014-11-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Beautifully said, Manny! May you always put Right Relationship with your 
Beloved first!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:43:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 You know it's true love when you decide that a ride with a love one is 
 more important than a ride for yourself. 

 Pictures proved that I am incredibly lucky to have someone to join me:
 https://flic.kr/s/aHsk62KXd2

 Manny Weddings are expensive Acosta


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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto big front rack q / hello

2014-11-09 Thread 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch
I agonized for a while and then realized, sometimes the best engineered 
solution is a hose clamp (Garner Martin, Easy racer founder), or in our case, 
a P-clamp.  :)
The top mounts don't carry any vertical load, just horizontal. A P-clamp is 
short, so less flex, less vertical twisting of the rack, less weight, simple 
and you can't strip it out, like a braze on (which I did on my fork lowers). 
Less of a point stress riser on the fork too. Clayton (Bend)


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wrote:
 


Haha yeah, the idea of having 2 sets of braze ons that close and neither of 
them being all that useable is quite frustrating. I probably need to just stop 
fighting it and resign myself to the p-clamps Though that chainring hack 
looks pretty good. 


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[RBW] Re: Nitto big front rack q / hello

2014-11-09 Thread John Philip
I've done this twice using straight struts to the upper eyelets. See here: 
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/15564057929/  A bit fiddely to set 
up at first but once done, easy on easy off.
Enjoy that Hunq!
John

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:15:14 PM UTC-5, drew beckmeyer wrote:

 Hey,
 I'm new here, but this group has already been a great resource. I've been 
 building up my new hunqapillar, and have come to front rack attachment. 
 I've seen posts where the big front rack has been attached without 
 p-clamps. For some reason, those methods didn't really work for me. I ended 
 up attaching the rack without the clamps but somewhat differently than I've 
 seen before. Lower fork eyelets attached to rack via struts attached to the 
 inside of the fork.
 So here are my questions:

 Is it a problem to attach the struts to the inside of the fork (about 1cm 
 of clearance on each side between bolt and spoke)?

 Is it an issue that the points of connection to the fork are the dropout 
 eyelets and the lower mid-fork mounts? Would it be more stable with the 
 second attachment to the higher mounts? Am I stressing anything too much? 
 Etc etc etc.

 Pics should be attached. Thanks in advance



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Re: [RBW] Biking with the future wifey.

2014-11-09 Thread cyclotourist
Skip the wedding and buy a tandem.

:-)

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote:

 Weddings are expensive because we're all invited, right? :)

 I kid I kid

 On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Manuel Acosta 
 manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote:

 You know it's true love when you decide that a ride with a love one is
 more important than a ride for yourself.

 Pictures proved that I am incredibly lucky to have someone to join me:
 https://flic.kr/s/aHsk62KXd2

 Manny Weddings are expensive Acosta

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[RBW] Re: Are P clamps supposed to do this?

2014-11-09 Thread lungimsam
Some pics:

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[RBW] Re: Are P clamps supposed to do this?

2014-11-09 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Yeah, based on photo 2 I'd say the clips are significantly too large.I 
usually like to choose clips so that the tabs are stretched-looking when 
everything is bolted together...

On Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:55:11 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 Some pics:



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Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Let me get this question under the wire. I was talking with a woman from my
church today about the low carb diet, and she said that it helps
depression. Any online information about this?

Just bought hunka beef for tonight's dinner (lotta beef, lotta green veg,
lotta red wine) since next week begins the Advent fast. Haven't bought beef
for a couple of months; man, prices have gone up 30-50% at Albertson's!
Solution: London Broil at $5.99.

Diaconal Patrick: what fats do you consume? Oil of gladness ... It ran
down someone's beard, but I forget whose. Oh, Aaron's.

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Hey Chris,

 The paleo diet I am on replaces the carbs with fat, not protein. I
 actually eat less protein now than I did before the switch. Also, gut flora
 and function often is out of whack due to grains and their anti-nutrients
 and thus needs specific steps to help heal it.

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet

2014-11-09 Thread bingomck
$1,150 + shipping  packing 

For those asking, the pictures were pre build completion. It is now 100% 
ready to ride, with new cassette, chain, BB, brakes, headset re-pack, etc. 
Thanks!

On Friday, November 7, 2014 8:08:41 AM UTC-8, bingomck wrote:

 $1,200 + s/p

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Patrick,

Yes, there is a fair bit of science on a low carb diet aiding all sorts of 
brain chemistry and neurological issues. This includes brain injury, 
depression, alzheimer's, MS, ADHD, autism, and more. I would suggest a 
Google search of it. But I quickly found this post:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/diet-for-depression/#axzz3Ic7gsuQX

Re 
Fasting: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/fasting-brain-function/#axzz3Ic7gsuQX

My fat comes mostly from 100 grass fed cows (meat and dairy), wild caught 
fish (salmon, tuna, cod), and coconut oil.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:30:30 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Let me get this question under the wire. I was talking with a woman from 
 my church today about the low carb diet, and she said that it helps 
 depression. Any online information about this?

 Just bought hunka beef for tonight's dinner (lotta beef, lotta green veg, 
 lotta red wine) since next week begins the Advent fast. Haven't bought beef 
 for a couple of months; man, prices have gone up 30-50% at Albertson's! 
 Solution: London Broil at $5.99. 

 Diaconal Patrick: what fats do you consume? Oil of gladness ... It ran 
 down someone's beard, but I forget whose. Oh, Aaron's.

 On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hey Chris,

 The paleo diet I am on replaces the carbs with fat, not protein. I 
 actually eat less protein now than I did before the switch. Also, gut flora 
 and function often is out of whack due to grains and their anti-nutrients 
 and thus needs specific steps to help heal it.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
There is a lot of information on the effects of grains and high carbs on 
the brain in Grain Brain as well, with lots of study citations.

With abadnon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Biking with the future wifey.

2014-11-09 Thread Michael Hechmer
Whatever direction this relationship is headed in, it will get there faster 
on a tandem.

Blessings,
Michael
BTW, beautiful photo essay!

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 You know it's true love when you decide that a ride with a love one is 
 more important than a ride for yourself. 

 Pictures proved that I am incredibly lucky to have someone to join me:
 https://flic.kr/s/aHsk62KXd2

 Manny Weddings are expensive Acosta


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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to MUSA pants and knickers?

2014-11-09 Thread justinaugust
I like SWRVE but wouldn't buy without trying on. Their QC seems all over the 
place in terms of consistent dimensions. Great products and ideas but after 
some turnip shaped experiences I'll only buy the pair I'm able to try on. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup 650b x 38 vertical height tire measurement needed, please.

2014-11-09 Thread lungimsam
Come one y'all, help me out.
Bust out the calipers and take a minute to let me know if you would, 
please. I know at least one of you has/had Loupies on your rims.

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-09 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 11/09/2014 05:43 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
My fat comes mostly from 100 grass fed cows (meat and dairy), wild 
caught fish (salmon, tuna, cod), and coconut oil.


Did you mean 100 /per cent/ grass fed cows, or did you literally mean 99 
cows and then one more cow?



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Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-09 Thread Goshen Peter
every year he eats just enough to keep the population at 100, really
impressive actually. :)

On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

  On 11/09/2014 05:43 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 My fat comes mostly from 100 grass fed cows (meat and dairy), wild caught
 fish (salmon, tuna, cod), and coconut oil.


 Did you mean 100 *per cent* grass fed cows, or did you literally mean 99
 cows and then one more cow?


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Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-09 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 11/09/2014 08:41 PM, Goshen Peter wrote:
every year he eats just enough to keep the population at 100, really 
impressive actually. :)


That's 60,000 to 100,000 lb of beef: pretty impressive, I must say.




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mailto:palin...@his.com wrote:


On 11/09/2014 05:43 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:

My fat comes mostly from 100 grass fed cows (meat and dairy),
wild caught fish (salmon, tuna, cod), and coconut oil.


Did you mean 100 /per cent/ grass fed cows, or did you literally
mean 99 cows and then one more cow?



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RE: [RBW] Re: Nitto big front rack q / hello

2014-11-09 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
That’s a really great install, John!

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Philip
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 2:10 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Nitto big front rack q / hello

I've done this twice using straight struts to the upper eyelets. See here:   
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/15564057929/  A bit fiddely to set up at 
first but once done, easy on easy off.
Enjoy that Hunq!
John

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:15:14 PM UTC-5, drew beckmeyer wrote:
Hey,
I'm new here, but this group has already been a great resource. I've been 
building up my new hunqapillar, and have come to front rack attachment. I've 
seen posts where the big front rack has been attached without p-clamps. For 
some reason, those methods didn't really work for me. I ended up attaching the 
rack without the clamps but somewhat differently than I've seen before. Lower 
fork eyelets attached to rack via struts attached to the inside of the fork.
So here are my questions:

Is it a problem to attach the struts to the inside of the fork (about 1cm of 
clearance on each side between bolt and spoke)?

Is it an issue that the points of connection to the fork are the dropout 
eyelets and the lower mid-fork mounts? Would it be more stable with the second 
attachment to the higher mounts? Am I stressing anything too much? Etc etc etc.

Pics should be attached. Thanks in advance
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RE: [RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting question.

2014-11-09 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Paul Neo-Retros (front) and Touring Cantis (rear).  I just had a lot of 
trouble, because when I tightened down the rack bolts onto the proprietary Paul 
rack mount brake bolts, it always seemed to alter the brake adjustment (the 
Pauls lock down the brake adjustment with the brake bolts).  I have that very 
brake set on a QB and an Atlantis, and have had zero problems setting up the 
brakes.

But it’s not a big problem – finally got it done, and the install seems very 
solid.

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting 
question.

I'm curious.  Which brakes?  What was the problem and how did the rack figure 
into all of that?  And how much prior experience do you have adjusting these 
brakes?  You suggest learning as a solution, lets see if we can narrow that 
down a bit.

Michael

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 10:10:03 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
Well, Michael Hechmer’s post suggests I may be incorrect about the difficulty 
of subsequent brake adjustments, and since I’m almost always inclined to 
believe the reality that is premised on my faulty bike mechanic skills, he’s 
probably right!

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Thomas J
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To: 'rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:'
Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting 
question.

I just recently mounted two racks (front and rear) to the canti studs on my 
Stumpjumper.  The mount seems extremely solid (but these are the Nitto Campee 
racks that mount at the dropouts and at the canti studs, the ones that have 
removable pannier racks, so I would expect the mount to be solid), but, boy, 
getting the racks mounted AND the brakes properly adjusted was a tedious job, 
and I certainly wouldn’t want to be engaging in incremental adjustment of the 
brakes hereafter.  Love the racks once they were finally in place, though.

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Racks: fork barrel eyelet vs. canti braze-on mounting 
question.

I think practically, it makes no difference at all.  The amount of weight that 
a small front rack has to hold is not enough to test the limits of the strength 
of the two different triangulation geometries of the two mounting approaches.

Personally I think if the bike already has canti studs, the additional barrels 
just make the upper fork area look cluttered and are somewhat unnecessary.  On 
non-canti equipped bikes, the barrels make perfect sense.  However, on 
non-canti equipped bikes, the brake bolt hole is not available for a direct 
bolt-up because there is a caliper brake installed. On those bikes, the upper 
rack mount has to be a bracket or welded rack tang that bolts to the existing 
brake caliper bolt.

Anton


On Saturday, November 8, 2014 1:10:38 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:
So, I have been looking at a lot of rack pics lately.

I see some racks have the straight bolt that directly mounts to fork crown 
hole. And it also has struts that mount directly to fork barrel braze ons. 
NITTO Mini, for example.
Looks like a 5 minute mounting job - must be a luxurious and satisfying mount!

But I also see some racks, that have struts that mount to the cantilever brake 
braze on studs. Like the NITTO M12. More involved for sure.

Which type of mounting method is stronger and more durable? To barrels, or to 
canti-studs?
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Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 6 updates in 4 topics

2014-11-09 Thread Philip Williamson
Apparently human guts look more like capuchin monkeys' than dogs' guts.
Capuchins are a monkey that is smart enough and dexterous enough to find
the nicest grub. Literally: seeds, fruits, grubs. Omnivores.
http://books.google.com/books?id=xHYxSHr86T8Cpg=PA100lpg=PA100dq=hominoid+cecumsource=blots=5izlxBtO8Osig=SU3Oi5nnc1O3Lm1oiVXoooFHoVshl=ensa=Xei=JDhgVI7bKeL3iQKR8YGgBwved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepageq=hominoid%20cecumf=false

This is pedantic, but germane to a discussion of evolutionary
biology: we're no more evolved from apes than I am descended from
my cousins. We share a common ancestor.

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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-  Are P clamps supposed to do this? #14994e15f3e1c3cd_group_thread_0
- 2 Updates
-  Alternatives to MUSA pants and knickers?
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   Are P clamps supposed to do this?
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/7f62fb674c116624?utm_source=digestutm_medium=email
   David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','23writ...@gmail.com');: Nov 09 07:44AM
 -0500

 I just mounted Nitto M18s on two bikes that lack fork eyelets and used the
 rubber/stainless steel clamps that come with the rack.
 I had some concerns but when I used the smaller clamps and looked at the
 geometry I realized the force placed on the clamps by the weight of the
 rack push the clamp into and not down the fork blade.
 Nothing conclusive but my take so far.


   Andrew Marchant-Shapiro marchantshap...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marchantshap...@gmail.com');: Nov 09
 04:49AM -0800

 I have seen two types of P clamps over the years, but both are secure if
 you use the correct size. The first type, which I haven't seen in a while,
 are merely coated with a thin layer of plastic; the second type are lined
 with a thick rubber layer. You calm get the latter in lots of sizes at big
 box hardware stores. Like I said, if you use the right size, they should be
 secure and show no sign of moving. The only thing I have ever used under
 them was electrical tape (with the older kind) to protect the frame.
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 Swrve midweight DWR knickers every day. Amazingly versatile, I wear them
 down to the 30s, until spring ends.


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 Humans are omnivores, of course. I hesitate to say THIS, but if we evolved
 from apes, and it's understandable that we'd have some ape-like
 features--like a sideways-moving jaw, and eyeballs in front.

 Right now and for the last 200,000 years, our digestive system looks more
 like a dog's than an ape's, 

[RBW] Fwd: Update: Re: Geometry, climbing, what's going on? (Problem solved and a question)

2014-11-09 Thread Anne Paulson
A few months ago I asked for suggestions about how I could climb
better on my new bike. I was feeling that I was worse at climbing on
the new bike than on my other bikes despite having lower gears,
and was unable to climb hills that I should have been
able to climb.

I figured out the problem: my weight was too far back. I dropped the
handlebars, and (as I thought) moved the saddle forward. That helped a
little. Then I replaced the offset seatpost with a straight seatpost.
While doing that I noticed that instead of moving the saddle all the
way forward, I had moved the seatpost all the way forward on the
saddle- so I had moved the saddle *back*. Oops. Moving it forward
solved the problem completely. There are plenty of super steep dirt
trails that I can't climb, but I am able to climb normally steep hills
with no problem. Hurray!

And that brings me to a question about frame design for short people.
One of my riding partners is 5 feet tall. She's slender, and she
climbs like a rocket, much faster than I can. But, oddly, even though
we have the same low gears, she has trouble climbing the super steep
roads that I love to tackle. She's afraid of them, says she can't
balance. I know it's hard to design small frames without design
compromises; is one of the compromises putting the rider too far back
on the bike?

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 But now I understand. I thought when I bought my new Surly Krampus mountain
 bike I'd be able to climb even steeper dirt roads than I now can climb on my
 Atlanti. I thought, I have an absurdly low gear on the Krampus (15.6 inches,
 something like that), I have all the traction in the world, I can climb
 anything.

 But no. I'm finding that I climb *worse* on the Krampus. It's frustrating.
 There are dirt sections that I have no trouble on with the Atlantis, with
 smooth tires, that I can't climb on the Krampus with the knobbies.

 What's going on here? Front-end geometry? Wheel weight? Bottom bracket
 height?



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[RBW] Re: Alternatives to MUSA pants and knickers?

2014-11-09 Thread Mike Schiller
I wanted to like the Swrve knickers but the fit is too small through the 
hips for me.   I have a pair of the Zoic Reigns and they fit nice but are a 
little thin for colder temps.  I'd love to find something that fits in the 
Schoeller fabric.  The Greenlite ones look good but run $175. ouch.

~mike
Carlsbad Ca


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