Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
Walking against traffic has long been considered safer and I think that many cyclists see themselves more like pedestrians than vehicular traffic. It annoys me, too, but I try to explain calmly that cycling against traffic is in fact more dangerous. I suppose I ought to look up statistics for that assertion, but it seems intuitively true. On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Peter Adler divisi@gmail.com wrote: Counter-current riding (what BikeSnobNYC calls bike salmoning has escalated rapidly in the last five years. A friend of mine was on the citizen's police review board of Richmond, CA a few years back. His explanation of the original behavior came from street cops: Allegedly, the practice was originally done by drug dealers, who rode against traffic in order to sight police cruisers quickly enough to ditch contraband. That can no longer be the case, or else there are hundreds of drug dealers biking around my neighborhood. Some of them are little old ladies of advanced years, and some are 12-year old kids. When I first complaint about this to my 74-year old mother, who'd been out of the US for several years, she told me that in her 50s youth, pedestrians were advised to walk on the pavement against the flow of street traffic, so that they could see dangerous vehicles in advance. She also said that it was advised in women's self-defense classes. I certainly don't remember such advice from my own 70s yoot; does anyone know whether this advice has resurfaced? On the occasions where I come to a near-collision with a salmoning cyclist, I've wanted to interrogate them: What's your reasoning here? Why do you think this is a good idea? It's gratifying to think that some people really don't have a self-justification for this silly, dangerous behavior, beyond I saw somebody else doing it, and they'll change if someone just tells them that they aren't wearing any clothes. Unfortunately, I live in a big college town, where a large percentage of the bike population are 18-25 year olds away from adult supervision for the first time in their lives. Upsetting other people and defying rules are often features, not bugs. Peter Adler that's when I turn on the highbeams, to blind the idiots in Berkeley, CA/USA On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 3:58:33 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: It happened again today! Some guy in carbon kit came up the wrong side of the shoulder at me and the wife. For his safety I told him Don't ride against traffic. You'll get hit.. That's about all the speaking time I had while he passed by. Later, on the trip home I saw him riding on another street but this time with traffic. Don't know if that had anything to do with what I said or not. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eroica California: Might There Be a Riv Contingent?
I'd love to see photos of the final build and see a detailed build list. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Nick Worthington mrnouveauw...@gmail.com wrote: For next year, I've ordered a Rodeo, and plan on building it to conform to Cino/Eroica specs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Ram as 650 tourer?!?
PS: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/index.html Yours is an older orange Ram, correct? Some of them had a high bridge, making the rear brake be a bit high; that might be your limiting factor. On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote: Hello to the group, I'd like to pick y'alls brains (sp?) I have a 64 cm Ram that I bought used, and I'm trying to see how it fits into my stable. I have Compass tires 700 x 32, measures 30, on it now, and I realize that I can either put larger tires on it OR fenders but not both. I wanted both so that it could be used as my credit card touring bike...looking for 38's with full fenders. Would a 650 conversion achieve that? Would it change the ride at all? I've never ridden 650's before. Besides new wheels and possibly brakes, depending on available reach, what other modifications are required? The serial # is R038...any idea as to date of manufacture? Thanks in advance for your wisdom. I've not been much of a contributor but I read this blog daily and always enjoy it and learn from it. Alan LaVine NYC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
On 07/06/2015 01:26 AM, Peter Adler wrote: When I first complaint about this to my 74-year old mother, who'd been out of the US for several years, she told me that in her 50s youth, pedestrians were advised to walk on the pavement against the flow of street traffic, so that they could see dangerous vehicles in advance. She also said that it was advised in women's self-defense classes. I certainly don't remember such advice from my own 70s yoot; does anyone know whether this advice has resurfaced? It never went away, you just missed it somehow. Some recent examples found through googling: If no sidewalks exist on the road, it is recommended to walk facing oncoming traffic on the same side of the road as the oncoming traffic. Also, you should get as far to the side of the road as possible to provide additional space between you and oncoming cars. -- http://www.saferoutesinfo.org/program-tools/what-side-road-should-i-walk Runners should run against traffic, so they can see the traffic coming toward then, says Jason Karp, an author of several books on running including Running a Marathon for Dummies. Everyone I talked to said against traffic is the way to go. Run against traffic, Jean Knaack, executive director for the Road Runners Club of America, told me. More than anything the reason is safety. And an email from Derrell Lyles at the U.S. Department of Transportation makes it official: Walk on sidewalks, if available; if no sidewalk, walk facing traffic. This is the recommendation of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. -- http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-10-23/health/sc-health-1023-fitness-road-running-20131023_1_traffic-sidewalk-enforcement It's not just a good idea, it's also the law in Virginia (and other states as well): § 46.2-928. Pedestrians not to use roadway except when necessary; keeping to left. Pedestrians shall not use the roadways for travel, except when necessary to do so because of the absence of sidewalks which are reasonably suitable and passable for their use. If they walk on the hard surface, or the main travelled portion of the roadway, they shall keep to the extreme left side or edge thereof, or where the shoulders of the highway are of sufficient width to permit, they may walk on either shoulder thereof. Code 1950, § 46-247; 1950, p. 850; 1958, c. 541, § 46.1-234; 1968, c. 165; 1989, c. 727 . -- http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/46.2-928/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: H.A.R.
This original hub area rack is in like new condition. I recently purchased on this list but have found it does not match up with our tandems mid fork braise-on. Either it isn't intended for 26 forks or my braise-ons are different from GP's expectations. $100 shipped conus, which is what I paid. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] +24H Overnight - Harper's Ferry on the Tandem
Congrats on the ride! I met up with your Burley's brother or sister on the CO on this past Friday. I rode out from my house in Silver Spring on Friday morning, down the Capital Crescent trail to the CO intersection at Fletcher's and biked up to Brunswick to meet and camp with family at the campground there, about 65 miles door to tent. I played leapfrog a few times with a couple on a Burley tandem who were on their way to Harper's Ferry for the weekend - great looking bike. They wisely had fenders. I was riding my XOXO equipped with semi-knobby tires, with just a vestigial stubby fender that barely kept any of the mud off of my Carradice, back, head, etc... The mud baths were particularly devious on Friday between White's Ferry and Brunswick. There were points south of White's Ferry where, for the most part, the mud and/or puddles could be driven around or gingerly plodded through, but past White's Ferry I passed through moments of mud denial then acceptance as there was no avoiding the major mire. Can't wait to do it again, and perhaps next time I'll see your Burley out there. -Jeff Silver Spring, MD On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/07/harpers-ferry-by-tandem.html My wife and I followed up on our successful Great Falls ride a couple weeks ago by significantly upping the ante and riding out to Harper's Ferry and back this past Tues-Weds. The trip was fantastic, we're still speaking to eachother even! In fact there has been plenty of discussion about future tandem trips and/or re-doing this trip with some variations and additional company added in. I know there are some of you looking at CO trips in the next couple months so I included alot about the trail conditions and what we found along the way in my blog post. Bottom line is that the extremely wet weather has predictably made portions of the towpath pretty muddy. In general though it is easily accomplished on a riv-ish equipped bike. I'll definitely do this trip again, and other than some minor tweaks I wouldn't want to change much from this experience. Erl met up with us on our way out at Fletcher's boat house and got a great shot of us at the start of our trip shown below; https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TY5WyAstoRA/VZgIMTmfjwI/InE/2_9ANtde90M/s1600/DSC_5477.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Ram as 650 tourer?!?
I converted my 60cm Ram to 650b: https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/8351739256/in/album-72157623199721925/ (try looking forward and backward from that photo in the album). When I originally built it, it was as a fendered 700c-32; had marginal clearance, but as I'm not a little guy, was getting occasional scrubbing (tire-shape-deformation as my weight moved around); I switched down to 28's for a bit for the clearance, but, I really wanted bigger-not-smaller tires on there. Since I have a 650b Bombadil and could borrow its wheels, all I needed to buy to try the Ram out as a 650b was a set of calipers, went with the long-reach Tektros. My original calipers were R538's, had to switch to the 559's. Front was fine, but on the rear, I needed to deepen the slots of the calipers to get the pads lower so that I wouldn't get the pad into the tire. Thing is, I went w/ Hetres, which are more like a 650b-41, fatter than a 38. Thing is, the Ram has a low BB, so you run the risk of pedal strike if you go w/ a narrower 650b; but a 650b-42 range tire is really close in height to a 700c-27. I'm running 172.5 cranks on this bike; I've not had any pedal strikes, but, I've contemplated switching to a 170, just for a margin of safety. (I don't aggressively pedal through corners either; but if you're CC-touring, I don't think you would be either?). I don't carry a lot of weight on this bike; a tube/patchkit/tools in the saddlebag, and stuff a jacket and a sandwich in the front bag If I have a load to carry, I'm taking the Bombadil instead... -L On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote: Hello to the group, I'd like to pick y'alls brains (sp?) I have a 64 cm Ram that I bought used, and I'm trying to see how it fits into my stable. I have Compass tires 700 x 32, measures 30, on it now, and I realize that I can either put larger tires on it OR fenders but not both. I wanted both so that it could be used as my credit card touring bike...looking for 38's with full fenders. Would a 650 conversion achieve that? Would it change the ride at all? I've never ridden 650's before. Besides new wheels and possibly brakes, depending on available reach, what other modifications are required? The serial # is R038...any idea as to date of manufacture? Thanks in advance for your wisdom. I've not been much of a contributor but I read this blog daily and always enjoy it and learn from it. Alan LaVine NYC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 54 Saluki
More precicely, it's the Nitto R20 Mt Campee rear rack. It is supposedly meant for 26er touring bikes, but it fits 650b + fenders with plenty of clearance http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/Tim_Gavin/media/Rivendell/IMG_00421_zps6vuvmevf.jpg.html. Riv's Big Back Rack Medium 32R is very similar, but it has an added lower top rail with triangulation. They're both great racks. The R20 is one of the cheapest Nitto rear racks http://www.modernbike.com/product-2126196114?gclid=CNbynunGxsYCFQIEaQodVhEDEA. With the F20 lowrider, it's part of a matching set (that doesn't match). Tim On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 5:14 PM, George Chalekian georgenc...@gmail.com wrote: D That is the Nitto Campee model. G On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 8:37:05 AM UTC-10, David Person wrote: Nice looking bike. Can I ask, what model is the rear rack? Not seen one quite like that when surfing for Nitto racks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Frames on ebay
I didn't realize you could fit a 2 tire under the R559 brake caliper. I am impressed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Ram as 650 tourer?!?
On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote: Hello to the group, I'd like to pick y'alls brains (sp?) I have a 64 cm Ram that I bought used, and I'm trying to see how it fits into my stable. I have Compass tires 700 x 32, measures 30, on it now, and I realize that I can either put larger tires on it OR fenders but not both. I wanted both so that it could be used as my credit card touring bike...looking for 38's with full fenders. Would a 650 conversion achieve that? Would it change the ride at all? I've never ridden 650's before. Besides new wheels and possibly brakes, depending on available reach, what other modifications are required? The serial # is R038...any idea as to date of manufacture? Thanks in advance for your wisdom. I've not been much of a contributor but I read this blog daily and always enjoy it and learn from it. Alan LaVine NYC As usual, the group has responded in an exemplary fashion, thanks to all. -I currently have 11 mm clearance at the closest point, which is where the end of the rear fender would attach to the frame between the chain stays. Not much with tires that measure 30. -Not too concerned about pedal strike, not sure if I even pedal thru a turn, but I'm not an aggressive rider to begin with. If this works, I will be changing cranks anyway, so I can go from a 175 to 170. -Currently have Riv silver brakes and the pads are at the highest position in the slot. Measuring, I can get the extra 19 mm needed for 650's in the the lowest point in the slot. Front and rear are the same. -Plan would be for 42 mm tires...any recs for a comfy tire? Flat protection not an issue. So it seems with new wheels and tires, maybe crank, this can happen easily. Any recs for wheels that won't break the bank? The VO ones look quite nice. Also, for a bit of background: I had a Surly LHT that I used for fully loaded touring, and it was excellent. But with a light load, or none, the bike was rigid as hell and my aging, arthritic body and butt were not happy. I stripped it, donated the frame, and put the wheels and components on a vintage Fuji Saratoga made with Ishiwata tubing. More flexible yes, but comfy, and just fine for CC touring. I have 38 Compass tires on it, the largest I've ever used, and love it to death. So I'm just trying to maximize the possibilities with the Ram, and further explore the world of fat tires. Again, heartfelt thanks to all. Alan - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ram as 650 tourer?!?
The top choices for 650b tires (especially if you don't need extra puncture protection) are the Compass tires: Babyshoe Pass 650x42 Loup Loup Pass 650x38 and their older Grand Bois versions: Hetre 650x42 Lierre 650x38 My current favorite is the Panaracer/Pacenti Pari-Moto. They're super fast and light, and only $32 each from Mike Kone at Boulder Bicycles http://boulderbicycle.bike/In-Stock-Pari-Moto-650b-x-38-tire-black-tread-w-tan-sidewall-by-Panaracer.html. 650x38 gives you a little more room for a fender. The above tires are the lightest tires with very low rolling resistance. Other tires, with a bit sturdier casings: Panaracer Pasela 650x42 Soma New Xpress 650x38 Panaracer Col De La Vie 650x38 Fatty Rumpkin green 650x41 and quite sturdy: Fatty Rumpkin blue 650x41 Schwalbe Marathon 650x42 For fenders, the SKS P45 is easy to install, and has the least-obtrusive hardware. On the VO fenders I have now, the stay attachment bolts intrude into the tire clearance. SKS chromoplastic fenders have the stay bolts on the sides, out of the way. For wheels, I built my own with Pacenti PL23 rims (on clearance for $40 http://www.pacenticycledesign.com/index.php/products/rims/pl23/pl23-650b-36h-detail), a dynamo hub, and the VO Grand Cru touring cassette hub. Tim On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:57 AM, alan lavine cigar...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote: Hello to the group, I'd like to pick y'alls brains (sp?) I have a 64 cm Ram that I bought used, and I'm trying to see how it fits into my stable. I have Compass tires 700 x 32, measures 30, on it now, and I realize that I can either put larger tires on it OR fenders but not both. I wanted both so that it could be used as my credit card touring bike...looking for 38's with full fenders. Would a 650 conversion achieve that? Would it change the ride at all? I've never ridden 650's before. Besides new wheels and possibly brakes, depending on available reach, what other modifications are required? The serial # is R038...any idea as to date of manufacture? Thanks in advance for your wisdom. I've not been much of a contributor but I read this blog daily and always enjoy it and learn from it. Alan LaVine NYC As usual, the group has responded in an exemplary fashion, thanks to all. -I currently have 11 mm clearance at the closest point, which is where the end of the rear fender would attach to the frame between the chain stays. Not much with tires that measure 30. -Not too concerned about pedal strike, not sure if I even pedal thru a turn, but I'm not an aggressive rider to begin with. If this works, I will be changing cranks anyway, so I can go from a 175 to 170. -Currently have Riv silver brakes and the pads are at the highest position in the slot. Measuring, I can get the extra 19 mm needed for 650's in the the lowest point in the slot. Front and rear are the same. -Plan would be for 42 mm tires...any recs for a comfy tire? Flat protection not an issue. So it seems with new wheels and tires, maybe crank, this can happen easily. Any recs for wheels that won't break the bank? The VO ones look quite nice. Also, for a bit of background: I had a Surly LHT that I used for fully loaded touring, and it was excellent. But with a light load, or none, the bike was rigid as hell and my aging, arthritic body and butt were not happy. I stripped it, donated the frame, and put the wheels and components on a vintage Fuji Saratoga made with Ishiwata tubing. More flexible yes, but comfy, and just fine for CC touring. I have 38 Compass tires on it, the largest I've ever used, and love it to death. So I'm just trying to maximize the possibilities with the Ram, and further explore the world of fat tires. Again, heartfelt thanks to all. Alan - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
On the American River parkway, runners are required to use the left shoulder whenever possible (running facing the oncoming bikes). That's consistent with the traffic rules I was taught while growing up in California. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Jul 6, 2015, at 5:01 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 07/06/2015 01:26 AM, Peter Adler wrote: When I first complaint about this to my 74-year old mother, who'd been out of the US for several years, she told me that in her 50s youth, pedestrians were advised to walk on the pavement against the flow of street traffic, so that they could see dangerous vehicles in advance. She also said that it was advised in women's self-defense classes. I certainly don't remember such advice from my own 70s yoot; does anyone know whether this advice has resurfaced? It never went away, you just missed it somehow. Some recent examples found through googling: If no sidewalks exist on the road, it is recommended to walk facing oncoming traffic on the same side of the road as the oncoming traffic. Also, you should get as far to the side of the road as possible to provide additional space between you and oncoming cars. -- http://www.saferoutesinfo.org/program-tools/what-side-road-should-i-walk Runners should run against traffic, so they can see the traffic coming toward then, says Jason Karp, an author of several books on running including Running a Marathon for Dummies. Everyone I talked to said against traffic is the way to go. Run against traffic, Jean Knaack, executive director for the Road Runners Club of America, told me. More than anything the reason is safety. And an email from Derrell Lyles at the U.S. Department of Transportation makes it official: Walk on sidewalks, if available; if no sidewalk, walk facing traffic. This is the recommendation of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. -- http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-10-23/health/sc-health-1023-fitness-road-running-20131023_1_traffic-sidewalk-enforcement It's not just a good idea, it's also the law in Virginia (and other states as well): § 46.2-928. Pedestrians not to use roadway except when necessary; keeping to left. Pedestrians shall not use the roadways for travel, except when necessary to do so because of the absence of sidewalks which are reasonably suitable and passable for their use. If they walk on the hard surface, or the main travelled portion of the roadway, they shall keep to the extreme left side or edge thereof, or where the shoulders of the highway are of sufficient width to permit, they may walk on either shoulder thereof. Code 1950, § 46-247; 1950, p. 850; 1958, c. 541, § 46.1-234; 1968, c. 165; 1989, c. 727 . -- http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/46.2-928/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs
Ben- I also recommend the Hollywood sport rider. The wheel wells are very adjustable (for your different wheel bases), and the frame clamp is secure. The frame clamp may reach low enough to grab the mid-tube on your wife's Betty, or you may want to add a clamp-on crossbar http://www.modernbike.com/hollywood-bike-adapter-pro. The threaded hitch bolt on the Hollywood helps reduce sway. Other racks with a similar tray-and-frame-clamp design: Saris Freedom Swagman XC and XTC The big wheel holders on the Saris Thelma interfere with fenders, FYI. Tim On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:33 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: I suggest you take a look at these Sport Rider racks: : http://www.modernbike.com/hollywood-racks-hitch-racks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
I've wondered that myself, so I asked a cycling expert why it was dangerous to ride against traffic. He said a primary reason is that cars are less likely to see you when they are making turns. A driver entering a road will tend to look to his/her left, where cars are coming from. If you're riding against traffic, you'll be approaching the driver from the wrong side, and they'll be more likely to turn onto the road and hit you. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Jul 6, 2015, at 2:27 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Walking against traffic has long been considered safer and I think that many cyclists see themselves more like pedestrians than vehicular traffic. It annoys me, too, but I try to explain calmly that cycling against traffic is in fact more dangerous. I suppose I ought to look up statistics for that assertion, but it seems intuitively true. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] +24H Overnight - Harper's Ferry on the Tandem
Tony, You/We should start saving these trips/routes to some kind of repository. I've been trying to plan an abbreviated version of this (basically the portion to Whites Ferry, Camp, and back on the WOD the next day). I also think these ride reports from you and Jeff are the most valuable, i'm a go with the flow kind of rider but it's always useful to know what the conditions are like on the trail ahead of time. Maybe a central thread to organize group rides at the last minute? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: BoyzontheHoods Summer Skool Sessions #2 – Peninsula MTBrevet
RideWithGPS Route: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7804202 On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 8:10:43 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Big group. 20+? All good variety of bikes These guys always plan the best route. Pretty much single track for 50% of the ride. Or at least it felt that way 3 flats 1 mechanic- - Broken Freewheel? How do you do that? 1 injured - Elbow scrappage. Jenny writes better. http://www.plattyjo.com/boyz-on-the-hoods-summer-skool-sessions-2-peninsula-mtbrevet/ Pictures proved that we all got rad. https://flic.kr/s/aHsketL6c2 Manny Did you see me hit that berm? Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Kermit Chair
Kellie, The butterfly chair is way better for hiking and possibly biking for most people. At just over a pound you get a great perch to rest the legs. I would not personally take it long distance touring but for a S24O or 2-3 day journey it is tolerable at 5 pounds. On cross country motorcycle trips it has claimed its throne as the Cadillac or BMW of chairs. Although the super light well designed and engineered chairs are making inroads quicker than Asian imports have. As a member of both subgroups, I will stereotypically illustrate that bi-cyclists appear much healthier than my motor laden cyclists many of who will benefit from the 350 lb. limit of the Kermit. Sadly many also mush use the leg extensions because more than a few struggle getting out of low sitting options. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Kermit Chair
Alite Monarch Butterfly chair here: http://m.rei.com/product/846402/alite-monarch-butterfly-chair Really light and packs small. I use it both back/bike camping. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ram as 650 tourer?!?
I've had good service with Velocity Synergy rims on Deore hubs. RBW sold some Velocity Twin Hollow rims on Deores a while back. Those rims are better for light weight riders, IMO. I have them and they work fine for me also. They're my back up set. I have Synergy rims on White IND hubs on a 650B converted Riv Road. (and to round out the report, 650B Velocity Aerohead 28s rims on old Japanese hubs on a TREK 660 conversion). On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:57 AM, alan lavine cigar...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote: Hello to the group, I'd like to pick y'alls brains (sp?) I have a 64 cm Ram that I bought used, and I'm trying to see how it fits into my stable. I have Compass tires 700 x 32, measures 30, on it now, and I realize that I can either put larger tires on it OR fenders but not both. I wanted both so that it could be used as my credit card touring bike...looking for 38's with full fenders. Would a 650 conversion achieve that? Would it change the ride at all? I've never ridden 650's before. Besides new wheels and possibly brakes, depending on available reach, what other modifications are required? The serial # is R038...any idea as to date of manufacture? Thanks in advance for your wisdom. I've not been much of a contributor but I read this blog daily and always enjoy it and learn from it. Alan LaVine NYC As usual, the group has responded in an exemplary fashion, thanks to all. -I currently have 11 mm clearance at the closest point, which is where the end of the rear fender would attach to the frame between the chain stays. Not much with tires that measure 30. -Not too concerned about pedal strike, not sure if I even pedal thru a turn, but I'm not an aggressive rider to begin with. If this works, I will be changing cranks anyway, so I can go from a 175 to 170. -Currently have Riv silver brakes and the pads are at the highest position in the slot. Measuring, I can get the extra 19 mm needed for 650's in the the lowest point in the slot. Front and rear are the same. -Plan would be for 42 mm tires...any recs for a comfy tire? Flat protection not an issue. So it seems with new wheels and tires, maybe crank, this can happen easily. Any recs for wheels that won't break the bank? The VO ones look quite nice. Also, for a bit of background: I had a Surly LHT that I used for fully loaded touring, and it was excellent. But with a light load, or none, the bike was rigid as hell and my aging, arthritic body and butt were not happy. I stripped it, donated the frame, and put the wheels and components on a vintage Fuji Saratoga made with Ishiwata tubing. More flexible yes, but comfy, and just fine for CC touring. I have 38 Compass tires on it, the largest I've ever used, and love it to death. So I'm just trying to maximize the possibilities with the Ram, and further explore the world of fat tires. Again, heartfelt thanks to all. Alan - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/OiVru1FohJ0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
meant to say he broke two laws On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:25:13 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: totally dependent on location, traffic patterns, anticipated and immediate choices, but I will often swing over to the wrong side of the road in anticipation of making a left turn - now looks like a good time to do it as opposed to later having to stop up there at the intersection. This is actually what I was in the process of doing when the vehicle driver decided he was going to beat me to the punch. If I had my way, we would have both been out of each other's way. Instead, he broke the law and passed me on the left to turn right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTT: my M Moleskin MUSA for your S of same
Post holiday-weekend bump. Thanks. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 8:11:30 PM UTC-7, Allan in Portland wrote: Reckon it can't hurt to ask. Thanks, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
On 07/06/2015 12:10 PM, Ron Mc wrote: I can think of another place where everybody, and I mean everybody rides a bike on the wrong side shoulder of the access road for about 100 yds to connect two bike greenways separated by Brooke Army Medical Center. There are quite a few situations just like that one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTT: 63cm Rivendell Romulus (Canti-Rom) for something bigger
Hey folks, So Luke recently sent me this lovely 63cm Canti-Rom and after eagerly unpacking the frame and measuring it all out today, I'm afraid that it is going to be too small for me (6'3'' with 37 inch legs). So in the off chance that one of you has something bigger and wants to trade, please let me know. I'll be having a custom made for me over the next few months but I do need a special something to ride until the custom is finished. Thanks! (I'm located in the Bay Area) The frame is still wrapped in protective material so I'll defer to Luke's images for now. Luke's pictures can be found here: http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/LukeHeller/library/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: found a Ram on CL
Ahh, if only my wife and retirement account were as encouraging as all of you! On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 9:16:38 AM UTC-6, Don Funke wrote: I found a 61cm Ram on CL. I have a 63 AHH. Is the ride really going to feel different? Interested in doing Brevets. The 63 is in the upper limits of fit for me. Is it worth the trade off of narrower tires for a bit more snappiness? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Biking poem
I listen, and the mountain lakes hear snowflakes come on those winter wings only the owls are awake to see, their radar gaze and furred ears alert. In that stillness a meaning shakes; And I have thought (maybe alone on my bike, quaintly on a cold evening pedaling home), Think!- the splendor of our life, its current unknown as those mountains, the scene no one sees. O citizens of our great amnesty: we might have died. We live. Marvels coast by, great veers and swoops of air so bright the lamps waver in tears, and I hear in the chain a chuckle I like to hear. Maybe Alone On My Bike by William Stafford from The Way It Is. © Graywolf Press, 1999. Reprinted with permission. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Blackspire Sub4 pedals
I am selling a lightly used pair of flats made by Blackspire. I bought the Sub4's to try out as an SPD alternative for a 6-day mini-tour this Spring. I must say, these pedals are even gripper than I expected, especially with a pair of rubber soled shoes. I did not miss my SPDs on the hills at all, which is a complete affront to everything I've been led to believe about riding clipless. I ultimately decided I like riding in my old school Shimano SPD shoes better than sneakers. I'm selling the Blackspires for $70 shipped CONUS. E-mail the_struggler AT hotmail DOT com to nab them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] I was turning left this morning
This reminds me to get a mirror! On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: in a 20 mph zone - a guy crossed the double yellow line accelerating to twice the speed limit and turned right in front of me glad my mirror was working I scratched the front of my helmet without using my index finger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. Index Shifters
Frankly, Riv's attempts to explain these shifters are probably more confusing than if you just hopped on the bike and started shifting. The OP's confusion is understandable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] New Olive ACW Mugs, new coffee? What kind of coffee/gear do you take on the bike?
Pewter mug, kept in the freezer. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 8:04:03 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Brad, I could really use a SS insulated pint glass to keep my artisanal summer beverages frosty cold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB: Cromo Albatross bars
Hi all, I'm looking to make my road bike more comfortable and I thought I'd see if anyone had an extra set here before shelling or for new ones. Please PM me if you do. Thanks, Rory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Clem Smith Jr. Index Shifters
New member here, first post. I am enjoying this group and appreciate the input from all. I am also considering the Clem Smith Jr. and have a question about the use of index shifters on a bike with friction shifting. The Riv website says it is weird but won't cause issues while riding. I'm looking for your thoughts and whether anyone has any experience with this setup. Cheers, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] I was turning left this morning
James, You walk in LA? How novel. On Monday, July 6, 2015, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: meant to say he broke two laws On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:25:13 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: totally dependent on location, traffic patterns, anticipated and immediate choices, but I will often swing over to the wrong side of the road in anticipation of making a left turn - now looks like a good time to do it as opposed to later having to stop up there at the intersection. This is actually what I was in the process of doing when the vehicle driver decided he was going to beat me to the punch. If I had my way, we would have both been out of each other's way. Instead, he broke the law and passed me on the left to turn right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 54 Saluki
On 07/06/2015 01:42 PM, Evan E. wrote: The Salukis are so pretty. ( Liesl) I agree! About six years ago, at a Rivendell garage sale, Riv was selling a small Saluki frame, brand new, in a color that looked a lot like the Rambouillet orange. The finish was opalescent and it glinted gold in the sunlight. (I wasn't hallucinating, I swear.) About 30 minutes later a woman bought it. She was beaming. It was awesome. Truly, the ride is even more awesome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
the point about downtown hamlet is being challenged for speed on a bicycle in this block is extremely unusual. It's usually more difficult to get people to pass you here when you want them to. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Tenkara Erandonee
Gearing up for tenkara fishing on wee mountain streams. https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/19474063151/in/dateposted-public/ With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. Index Shifters
Hey there Doug - Welcome to our merry band Strictly speaking, there's no such thing as a bike with friction shifting. By that, I mean that it's the shifters themselves which create the indexing. So - as long as derailleur is compatible with the shifting mechanism (some systems use 1:1 cable pull, others 2:1) and the shifter has as many steps as the number of cogs (8 speed shifters for 8 cogs, 9 for 9, 10 for 10, 11 for 11, etc...) it will work. If that's what you are comfortable with, then there's no reason not to use them. But, if you have a chance to ride with a simpler, more direct connection like the silver or other shifters, you may find it more intuitive and simpler. I've found that the most indexed systems tend to start shifting well and then slouch towards entropy. Kind of feel that you end up tweaking and tending to rather than riding (especially if you tend to ride in a variety of conditions and terrain). There are plenty of RBW riders who have Shimano or Campagnolo shifters on their rigs. hope that helps! - Jim On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:49:22 AM UTC-7, Doug Hansford wrote: New member here, first post. I am enjoying this group and appreciate the input from all. I am also considering the Clem Smith Jr. and have a question about the use of index shifters on a bike with friction shifting. The Riv website says it is weird but won't cause issues while riding. I'm looking for your thoughts and whether anyone has any experience with this setup. Cheers, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riding in Greater Muskegon-Newaygo-Grant Michigan Area
Call me Jay, Lots of good riding along the lakeshore of Ottawa and Muskegon counties. What size Riv and model would you be bringing. If you need a really large ride I could just lend your one possibly. Might be interested in joining you and Tom if desired; unless you are like me and prefer riding solo as 90+% of my rides are. Sincerely, Ryan Spring Lake, MI 40 minutes south of Tom in Twin Lake. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I can't get the shifting dialed in
So this is now a friction-shifting drivetrain, right? In that case, it doesn't seem like the spacing on the cassette should even matter. All that should matter is that once you've shifted into a given cog, the derailleur stays still and doesn't ghost-shift you out of the cog. The main things that I can think of that could cause ghost shifting: 1) cracked frame, 2) friction between the cable and the BB, 3) cassette wobbling, and 4) play in the derailleur/cog. My suggestion: zip-tie a piece of derailleur cable housing under the bottom bracket and run the cable through it. If the ghost-shifting stops then you know that friction was causing it. That worked for me with my Rambouillet. You can easily feel for 3 or 4 and rule it out. I've had bad shifting because of 1 a couple of times so it's not impossible. FWIW, I tried the silver-shifter 9-speed friction shifting for about a year before giving up and going back to indexed shifting. Main problem: In the winter when your ears are covered in a couple of layers of fabric, you can't hear when you are not-quite in gear. So then you get to a hill, stand up, and BANG it shifts into the next cog down. Used to be with older 5-speed freewheels and accompanying chains that you could feel when it wasn't quite in gear. But with modern narrow chains, they are too flexible to let you feel when you are in and out of gear. On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 10:59:32 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote: I'm so frustrated with my drive train. I had Shimano 9 speed bar ends with a front triple. They worked great in index mode. The indexing got finicky so I switched to friction. It worked well for a bit then the ghost shifting started. I switched to Silver bar ends. They feel great but I just can't get them dialed in. I've worked on it it, I took it to my LBS and they tuned it up, but it still doesn't shift right. I had them check for a bent derailer hanger and they said it wasn't. When I shift to the two or three lowest (biggest) cogs, it will not stay on that cog. The problem is worse when I am going from higher to lower gear. If I mess with the shifter it will finally stay in gear, but it's really frustrating, especially when riding lots of rollers. I can't descend a roller and then hit the gear I need for the climb. It always skips out. If I do slight adjustments to the cable tension the best I can do is move the problem from the lowest end of the gears to the middle part. It's driving me crazy! By the way, all of the parts, chain rings, cassette, and chain, are new (they were all bought at the same time and now have around 1500-1700km on them. Any ideas? Please!?!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 54 Saluki
The Salukis are so pretty. ( Liesl) I agree! About six years ago, at a Rivendell garage sale, Riv was selling a small Saluki frame, brand new, in a color that looked a lot like the Rambouillet orange. The finish was opalescent and it glinted gold in the sunlight. (I wasn't hallucinating, I swear.) About 30 minutes later a woman bought it. She was beaming. It was awesome. Evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] sf-la ride report, gear review
Drew, Thanks for posting. Please tell us about the campsite near the river as seen in your photos. I will be riding Portland to San Luis Obispo in a little over a week and would be interested in staying there. Thanks. On Friday, July 3, 2015, Bob E reeh...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','reeh...@gmail.com'); wrote: Thanks for the detailed info, gents! Cheers, Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I can't get the shifting dialed in
Yes, but as seen below it was an index shifting drive train that had some kind of failure first (when indexing got finicky). Switching to friction left that underlying problem in place. Reviewing the bidding, if indeed the cassette and chain and cables and housings are new, I'm wondering if switching to a different cassette was tried, and I'm wondering if the cable is correctly attached to the derailleur. There are several possible ways to route the shift cable back there, and alternate routings are used to alter the cable pull. Quoting from Sheldon's site: Alternate Cable Routings Two alternate cable routings for Shimano derailers adapt them for use with nonstandard shifters or cassettes. Shimano originally publicized an alternate cable routing which placed the cable slightly closer to the pivot, making the derailer move slightly/farther/for each click. This adaptation makes newer Shimano derailers work witholder Dura-Ace http://www.sheldonbrown.com/dura-ace.htmlshifters, but it is also useful when you want to use a 9-speed cassette with 10 speed shifters, or 8-speed cassette with 9-speed shifters, or a 7-speed cluster with 8-speed shifters. You may need to fine-tune the amount the cable deviates from the standard position, so the derailer sweep matches the sprocket spacing. cable routing to increase derailer travel The other alternate cable routing, suggested by Brian Jenks, proprietor of Hubbub Cycles,/decreases/the derailer travel for each click. This makes some Shimano derailers and shifters compatible with Campagnolo cassettes. It is also useful when you want to use a 10-speed cassette with 9-speed shifters, or 9-speed cassette with 8-speed shifters, or an 8-speed cassette with 7-speed shifters. You will then lose the use of one sprocket, unless you are using a shortened cassette such as an8 of 9 on 7, or 9 of 10 on 7 http://www.sheldonbrown.com/k7.html#897. Note the two tabbed washers in the drawing below -- one to change the cable routing, and the other to secure the cable. Again, you may need to fine-tune the cable position. cable routing to increase derailer travel Unlike the Dura-Ace modification, the Hubbub modification is nonstandard, and not all of the ratio changes are accurate. Chris Juden of the Cyclist Touring Club (U.K.) has posteda Web page listing usable combinations http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3946.Pulley-type adapters from JTek Engineering http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate.htmoffer a more precise alternative. Also, some cassettes (the 9-speed 12-27s I make my 13-30s out of) have several loose sprockets and spacers in addition to the ones on spiders. Is there a chance there might be a problem with that, so that the cassette isn't consistently spaced? Incorrect torque was also mentioned. As for ghost shifting when running with friction: it's common, thanks to Hyperglide design. You don't get much in the way of audible or tactile feedback when you're not spot on in adjustment, and the chain is quite happy running on two sprockets at once. Load the drive train up and BAM you get a hard shift to - in my case - the smaller sprocket. Call it a design issue or user error; it's not necessarily in any way related to the underlying problem, in my experience anyway. It's also possible that what the LBS said was checked might not have been checked competently. We're only assuming that. I've had friends complain about how newly serviced bikes were working to the point they said they'd just brought the bike in for a tune-down because it shifted worse afterwards than before the work was done. On 07/06/2015 02:09 PM, NickBull wrote: So this is now a friction-shifting drivetrain, right? In that case, it doesn't seem like the spacing on the cassette should even matter. All that should matter is that once you've shifted into a given cog, the derailleur stays still and doesn't ghost-shift you out of the cog. The main things that I can think of that could cause ghost shifting: 1) cracked frame, 2) friction between the cable and the BB, 3) cassette wobbling, and 4) play in the derailleur/cog. My suggestion: zip-tie a piece of derailleur cable housing under the bottom bracket and run the cable through it. If the ghost-shifting stops then you know that friction was causing it. That worked for me with my Rambouillet. You can easily feel for 3 or 4 and rule it out. I've had bad shifting because of 1 a couple of times so it's not impossible. FWIW, I tried the silver-shifter 9-speed friction shifting for about a year before giving up and going back to indexed shifting. Main problem: In the winter when your ears are covered in a couple of layers of fabric, you can't hear when you are not-quite in gear. So then you get to a hill, stand up, and BANG it shifts into the next cog down. Used to be with older 5-speed freewheels and accompanying chains that you could feel when it
RE: [RBW] Biking poem
Wonderful. Thank you for sharing it. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Redmon Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2015 10:38 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Biking poem I listen, and the mountain lakes hear snowflakes come on those winter wings only the owls are awake to see, their radar gaze and furred ears alert. In that stillness a meaning shakes; And I have thought (maybe alone on my bike, quaintly on a cold evening pedaling home), Think!- the splendor of our life, its current unknown as those mountains, the scene no one sees. O citizens of our great amnesty: we might have died. We live. Marvels coast by, great veers and swoops of air so bright the lamps waver in tears, and I hear in the chain a chuckle I like to hear. Maybe Alone On My Bike by William Stafford from The Way It Is. © Graywolf Press, 1999. Reprinted with permission. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eroica California: Might There Be a Riv Contingent?
Speaking only as a part-time RBW Saturday Guy, I just want to point out that DT shifter bosses are a (not often printed on the menu!) option for the Waterford-built frames. I think a dt-shifter'd Roadeo would be the bee's knees! Hard to pick my all time favorite shifter arrangement, but there's something sublime about the one-handed-double-shift... =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 7/5/15, Nick Worthington mrnouveauw...@gmail.com wrote: I rode this year, plan on riding again next year. I didn't want to back-date my Romulus, so I rode my 1940's 3-speed (Short course) My wife rode her Betty, and I know at least one of the Riv staff rode, but not on a Riv. If you are into old bikes, it's a great event - lots to see, lots of like minded folks to talk to. I also ride Cino Heroica in Montana, Which is a totally different experience - more of a community ride on old bikes. (And lots more dirt/gravel) Both rides are good, but I think I prefer Cino. (Rivendell is/has been a sponsor of Cino) For next year, I've ordered a Rodeo, and plan on building it to conform to Cino/Eroica specs. Nick Worthington On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 2:22:03 PM UTC-7, Evan E. wrote: Anyone thinking of going to Eroica California? Paso Robles, April 8-10, 2016. As far as I can tell, lugged Rivendells (as keeper of the flame bikes) qualify if they use non-aero brake levers and downtube shifters or bar-end shifters. And of course vintage bikes are welcome. Details: http://www.eroicacalifornia.com Evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Kermit Chair
Liesl, Please do I am curious how each you and Erin find the Kermits. I brought the Kermit along from Michigan on my motorcycle trip to the Anniversary Riv. Entmoot. Haven't heard of other adapters but many claimed to like it and it's comfort if they tried it out. Interested to hear what each of you find the best means of transporting them on your bikes. I justify the modest weight of the chair by going with a double hammock instead of a tent. Super happy to hear Erin has bonded so well with the Big Girl 60 cm Cheviot you took off my hands via Rivendell. I ordered a 55cm light blue Clementine frame only, that I cannot persuade any of the significant ladies in my life (wife of 24 years, 23 year old daughter) to display enough interest in to warrant me doing a 650b build come fall/winter. And now that I landed a 68cm Atlantis I have temporarily suspended by lust for a custom. Although a 100PBH version of yours is tempting every time you post pictures and describe it's ride. Sincerely, Ryan Spring Lake, MI p.s. Thanks for your brilliant post about this community and Rivendell itself. The fact that a company can carve out such a rewarding existence for 2 decades, promotes just riding, reading, camping, and other healthy endeavors; rather than the profit only business model that has begun sweeping our great country which introduces negative effects on society and our globe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] +24H Overnight - Harper's Ferry on the Tandem
Looks like a great trip, Tony; thanks for the write-up and photos. For someone who has the full Pittsburgh to DC trip on his bucket list, the overnight from DC to Harper's Ferry could be a good shakedown/intro ride. Bob E On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:08:38 AM UTC-4, Minh wrote: Tony, You/We should start saving these trips/routes to some kind of repository. I've been trying to plan an abbreviated version of this (basically the portion to Whites Ferry, Camp, and back on the WOD the next day). I also think these ride reports from you and Jeff are the most valuable, i'm a go with the flow kind of rider but it's always useful to know what the conditions are like on the trail ahead of time. Maybe a central thread to organize group rides at the last minute? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: sf-la ride report, gear review
hey curtis, that is fernwood in big sur. it's a private campground i've been going to for years, though never on a bike and never in summer. i was somewhat horrified to see what i always thought of as a serene, peaceful and mostly empty campsite filled with tons of cars and flotation devices. i also ended up there on a saturday and i would imagine most camps on a summer weekend in big sur will be equally crowded. there are multiple private camps in that area that get you down by the river. i took it really slow from carmel to morro bay, as that was really the highlight of my trip. i splurged on fernwood one night and then stayed for free at plasket creek the next night. plasket is not a great campground, but its just across the road from some amazing beaches and walks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. Index Shifters
Jim, that does help and I appreciate the response. I am just confused as to why Riv says it is a strange grouping of shifter to gears. It seems that you'll hear the click in the shifter but that may not necessarily coincide with a shift. Anyway, I'm an amateur in this area and am just confused. On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 2:02:37 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: Hey there Doug - Welcome to our merry band Strictly speaking, there's no such thing as a bike with friction shifting. By that, I mean that it's the shifters themselves which create the indexing. So - as long as derailleur is compatible with the shifting mechanism (some systems use 1:1 cable pull, others 2:1) and the shifter has as many steps as the number of cogs (8 speed shifters for 8 cogs, 9 for 9, 10 for 10, 11 for 11, etc...) it will work. If that's what you are comfortable with, then there's no reason not to use them. But, if you have a chance to ride with a simpler, more direct connection like the silver or other shifters, you may find it more intuitive and simpler. I've found that the most indexed systems tend to start shifting well and then slouch towards entropy. Kind of feel that you end up tweaking and tending to rather than riding (especially if you tend to ride in a variety of conditions and terrain). There are plenty of RBW riders who have Shimano or Campagnolo shifters on their rigs. hope that helps! - Jim On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:49:22 AM UTC-7, Doug Hansford wrote: New member here, first post. I am enjoying this group and appreciate the input from all. I am also considering the Clem Smith Jr. and have a question about the use of index shifters on a bike with friction shifting. The Riv website says it is weird but won't cause issues while riding. I'm looking for your thoughts and whether anyone has any experience with this setup. Cheers, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. Index Shifters
The clicking is probably an internal ratchet mechanism. On an indexed shifting system, the click of the lever or button corresponds directly to a shift up or down in gearing. That is not the case here. The ratchet just reduces the tendency of the lever to move - the cable is under slight tension from the spring in the derailleur. Don't really see the phrase you are quoting (the strange grouping of shifter to gears...) but I'm only going by the Clem page and pdf. - J On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 12:22:37 PM UTC-7, Doug Hansford wrote: Jim, that does help and I appreciate the response. I am just confused as to why Riv says it is a strange grouping of shifter to gears. It seems that you'll hear the click in the shifter but that may not necessarily coincide with a shift. Anyway, I'm an amateur in this area and am just confused. On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 2:02:37 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: Hey there Doug - Welcome to our merry band Strictly speaking, there's no such thing as a bike with friction shifting. By that, I mean that it's the shifters themselves which create the indexing. So - as long as derailleur is compatible with the shifting mechanism (some systems use 1:1 cable pull, others 2:1) and the shifter has as many steps as the number of cogs (8 speed shifters for 8 cogs, 9 for 9, 10 for 10, 11 for 11, etc...) it will work. If that's what you are comfortable with, then there's no reason not to use them. But, if you have a chance to ride with a simpler, more direct connection like the silver or other shifters, you may find it more intuitive and simpler. I've found that the most indexed systems tend to start shifting well and then slouch towards entropy. Kind of feel that you end up tweaking and tending to rather than riding (especially if you tend to ride in a variety of conditions and terrain). There are plenty of RBW riders who have Shimano or Campagnolo shifters on their rigs. hope that helps! - Jim On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:49:22 AM UTC-7, Doug Hansford wrote: New member here, first post. I am enjoying this group and appreciate the input from all. I am also considering the Clem Smith Jr. and have a question about the use of index shifters on a bike with friction shifting. The Riv website says it is weird but won't cause issues while riding. I'm looking for your thoughts and whether anyone has any experience with this setup. Cheers, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. Index Shifters
I think the OP is talking about the Sturmey-style Sunrace shifters that Riv recently started offering. This one: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/shsrbe.htm Somewhere on the website there's a description of how this shifter's indexing works, and it seemed a little wonky – one click for most shifts, but two clicks for a few. I can't find it now. I imagine it would be very easy to accustom yourself to, and once accustomed it would become second nature. But they're not THAT much cheaper than the Silver shifters mounted on the IRD quill mount, which combo is, I think, the bee's knees for the Bullmoose Bosco bars that beg to be installed on a Clem/Clementine. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cyclofiend Jim Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:27 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com; dhansford1...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. Index Shifters The clicking is probably an internal ratchet mechanism. On an indexed shifting system, the click of the lever or button corresponds directly to a shift up or down in gearing. That is not the case here. The ratchet just reduces the tendency of the lever to move - the cable is under slight tension from the spring in the derailleur. Don't really see the phrase you are quoting (the strange grouping of shifter to gears...) but I'm only going by the Clem page and pdf. - J On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 12:22:37 PM UTC-7, Doug Hansford wrote: Jim, that does help and I appreciate the response. I am just confused as to why Riv says it is a strange grouping of shifter to gears. It seems that you'll hear the click in the shifter but that may not necessarily coincide with a shift. Anyway, I'm an amateur in this area and am just confused. On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 2:02:37 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: Hey there Doug - Welcome to our merry band Strictly speaking, there's no such thing as a bike with friction shifting. By that, I mean that it's the shifters themselves which create the indexing. So - as long as derailleur is compatible with the shifting mechanism (some systems use 1:1 cable pull, others 2:1) and the shifter has as many steps as the number of cogs (8 speed shifters for 8 cogs, 9 for 9, 10 for 10, 11 for 11, etc...) it will work. If that's what you are comfortable with, then there's no reason not to use them. But, if you have a chance to ride with a simpler, more direct connection like the silver or other shifters, you may find it more intuitive and simpler. I've found that the most indexed systems tend to start shifting well and then slouch towards entropy. Kind of feel that you end up tweaking and tending to rather than riding (especially if you tend to ride in a variety of conditions and terrain). There are plenty of RBW riders who have Shimano or Campagnolo shifters on their rigs. hope that helps! - Jim On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:49:22 AM UTC-7, Doug Hansford wrote: New member here, first post. I am enjoying this group and appreciate the input from all. I am also considering the Clem Smith Jr. and have a question about the use of index shifters on a bike with friction shifting. The Riv website says it is weird but won't cause issues while riding. I'm looking for your thoughts and whether anyone has any experience with this setup. Cheers, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this
[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. Index Shifters
i think this is specific to the sunrace shifters that they are putting on the clems. i believe they were made for internal gear hubs, but riv figured out that they work fine for friction shifting too and dont cost an arm and a leg. i think the confusion lies in the fact that when not used with internal hubs, these sound like they are indexing, but in fact are frictioning. similar to a ratcheting shifter, but the clicks are more pronounced and further apart. i have the uber cheap ones on a beater bike, and they work fine, but they are not indexedlike jim, i feel like indexing becomes more trouble than it's worth after a short period of time. inevitably, i end up friction shifting again. however, if you really want to index, you can just replace the sunrace shifters with bar ends or another shimano compatible thumb shifter and it should play fine with the altus rear derailleur in indexed or friction mode. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Rivet review?
I reviewed the Rivet saddle a few years ago: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/search/label/rivet%20cycles%20saddle%20rivetcycleworks%20cycle%20works Summary: Took much longer than a B-17 to feel comfortable for me, but once it did I loved it. I still have this saddle on my Quickbeam. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Jul 6, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Kellie kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: I found the Rivet too hard and now ride all Aged B17's. On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 at 2:39:38 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: Has anyone been able to ride a new Rivet saddle long enough for a review? I'm thinking about the mahogany Pearl for the new Hunqa build. I just took it out for the shake-down ride to work today. It was a smooth ride! Thumbs up so far. I am realizing the small saddlebag will have to move to a taller bike with more clearance (59cm AHH) as I got some tire rub. Luckily I have an XS Keven's bag that will do it up right. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzosf8m http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzosf8m Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Ram as 650 tourer?!?
What brakes did you use for the conversion? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Cambium bartape.
I have a couple of rolls, but haven't installed it. It is a beautiful match for the natural finish Cambium saddle. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lungimsam Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 6:51 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Cambium bartape. Anyone have it? Shellaced it? How is it? wallbike.com sells it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivet review?
The Rivet seems much more substantial and hardy than the SAA. I had a Titanico X that bent badly over the course of a 100 mile ride... on the other hand I haven't subjected the Rivet to the same length ride but it feels more sturdy. I've found it to be quite comfortable up to 40 miles which is as far as I've pushed it so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivet review?
I found the Rivet too hard and now ride all Aged B17's. On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 at 2:39:38 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: Has anyone been able to ride a new Rivet saddle long enough for a review? I'm thinking about the mahogany Pearl for the new Hunqa build. I just took it out for the shake-down ride to work today. It was a smooth ride! Thumbs up so far. I am realizing the small saddlebag will have to move to a taller bike with more clearance (59cm AHH) as I got some tire rub. Luckily I have an XS Keven's bag that will do it up right. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzosf8m Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] +24H Overnight - Harper's Ferry on the Tandem
Jeff - That's awesome glad to hear another list member was out on the trail last week as well. Your XOXO must make for a great CO bike! It's cool to know there is another towpath Burley as well fenders are going to be a very near term priority! I also like your 'mud denial' vs 'mud acceptance' definition which closely mirrored our experience. The post Whites Ferry section was definitely in the acceptance camp. Minh that's a good idea, I don't know a great way to do it w/in Google Groups but I suppose you just have to trust to the goodness of google search. Bob E - I highly recommend it! Depending on where you are close to I'd also highly recommend any short trip that included the Ohiopyle section of the GAP, it is gorgeous and the trail is in very good condition. My Dad and I did Frostburg to Pittsburgh last May and that was our favorite section. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivet review?
Here are a Rivet Pearl and SA Titanico X side-by-side. Both are new. KJ https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d7HiN3vNS4Q/VZsDG3plVEI/AT4/aEcYjq83-vk/s1600/IMG_2967.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vciFjIn35FE/VZsC1SLDmyI/ATw/Oh8xEkIrVTE/s1600/IMG_2968.JPG On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 5:56:29 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote: For the sake of consolidating useful info, I'm reviving an old thread rather than starting a new one. But with a request for new/different feedback. I know someone here will be able to help: Can anyone tell me how Rivet saddles compare specifically to the Selle Anatomica? I've been using the later since Tom was around and Deb was a part of things, I think, and have been so happy with them that I just didn't have a reason to change or experiment with others. When something works But Selle Anatomica appears to have recently changed their rail design, and it no longer works for me. I can't slide it far enough forward and, even if I could marginally make it work by buying a zer0-setback seatpost, would likely be precluded from using a Carradice saddle bag support (which clamps onto the rails behind the seat). That alone is a deal breaker. I'm not sure why they did this, because it was the *other* direction (people sliding them too far backwards) that had been resulting in bent rails and durability issues, from what I've read. I might be reading too much into things, but it seems like they're getting a bit too corporate / mainstream / trend-chasing, too. Their new all-carbon saddle is going the wrong direction for my tastes, for instance, and I don't think Tom's sisters are even personally involved anymore. Do Rivet saddles have similar adjustability range to the older Selle Anatomica Saddles? I'd love to see a side-by-side photo of the undersides, if you know of one or could take one. Can anybody offer any impressions regarding the fit of the different models (Diablo, Independence, Pearl) compared to the Titanico? I assume the Diablo is based on the design of the same name that Tom was working on when he died. I once thought I'd want that, but I'm obviously comfortable with something wider. Or perhaps I should take a look at the new Brooks Cambium. Can anybody offer an impression/comparison in that regard? Thanks for comments! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Cambium bartape.
Anyone have it? Shellaced it? How is it? wallbike.com sells it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: PSA eBay Riv frame
Peter, I will merely agree to disagree. Yes it would be beneficial to be able to lower your max bid if that chances throughout the auction. If the lead bidder is indeed raising her or his bid to avoid getting sniped out at the end, I agree there is no harm in that. However, if s/he happens to be the leading bidder at the initial bid or reserve amount and hoped to score it at that minimum amount, like I frequently do, then I stand behind my assertion that s/he tipped her/his hand and could be unnecessarily bid up past the 1st bid with no risk to the individual increasing the bid. I would illustrate precisely how, but would rather see a beautiful bargain Riv find a new happy home, since I lost interest in the frame due to several emails with the seller and the tire limitation of the fork. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. Index Shifters
I trust Grant not to spec something that wasn't a really useful part even on their most affordable of bikes. Even when I question some of Riv's decision I usually find that they are right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivet review?
For the sake of consolidating useful info, I'm reviving an old thread rather than starting a new one. But with a request for new/different feedback. I know someone here will be able to help: Can anyone tell me how Rivet saddles compare specifically to the Selle Anatomica? I've been using the later since Tom was around and Deb was a part of things, I think, and have been so happy with them that I just didn't have a reason to change or experiment with others. When something works But Selle Anatomica appears to have recently changed their rail design, and it no longer works for me. I can't slide it far enough forward and, even if I could marginally make it work by buying a zer0-setback seatpost, would likely be precluded from using a Carradice saddle bag support (which clamps onto the rails behind the seat). That alone is a deal breaker. I'm not sure why they did this, because it was the *other* direction (people sliding them too far backwards) that had been resulting in bent rails and durability issues, from what I've read. I might be reading too much into things, but it seems like they're getting a bit too corporate / mainstream / trend-chasing, too. Their new all-carbon saddle is going the wrong direction for my tastes, for instance, and I don't think Tom's sisters are even personally involved anymore. Do Rivet saddles have similar adjustability range to the older Selle Anatomica Saddles? I'd love to see a side-by-side photo of the undersides, if you know of one or could take one. Can anybody offer any impressions regarding the fit of the different models (Diablo, Independence, Pearl) compared to the Titanico? I assume the Diablo is based on the design of the same name that Tom was working on when he died. I once thought I'd want that, but I'm obviously comfortable with something wider. Or perhaps I should take a look at the new Brooks Cambium. Can anybody offer an impression/comparison in that regard? Thanks for comments! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Biking poem
Wow, Dave, I was about to write you're really good, echoes of both Robert Frost and Gerard Manley Hopkins! Then I saw the assignation. So all I can say is, this was a good poem to share. Thanks. On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 1:48:34 PM UTC-4, Dave Redmon wrote: I listen, and the mountain lakes hear snowflakes come on those winter wings only the owls are awake to see, their radar gaze and furred ears alert. In that stillness a meaning shakes; And I have thought (maybe alone on my bike, quaintly on a cold evening pedaling home), Think!- the splendor of our life, its current unknown as those mountains, the scene no one sees. O citizens of our great amnesty: we might have died. We live. Marvels coast by, great veers and swoops of air so bright the lamps waver in tears, and I hear in the chain a chuckle I like to hear. Maybe Alone On My Bike by William Stafford from The Way It Is. © Graywolf Press, 1999. Reprinted with permission. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Simple1
Price Sales Update 58cm SimpleOne. - Tange headset - Wheel set is velocity unbranded track hubs to SunCR18 rims with Soma C line terracota tires. - Surly dingle 17/21 - Freewheel 17t - Sugino somethingP TRIPLE with black FSA guard, two rings - There are pics of the frame here https://flickr.com/photos/86714991@N00/sets/72157646060803134 - It's got some goo on it hat should come off with lighter fluids, I just have done it yet. All that for $725 + real shipping (I’ll ship first, then invoice you for cost) Other stuff. Will be giving first priority to whomever buys the frame/fork/headset/wheelset) - Black Paul Cantis Neo-Retro front, Touring rear. New Kool-Stop Thinline pads $100 - Black Paul brake levers. $50 - Take Paul set for $125 - SOMA Layback Post, BLACK - $20 - SOMA Sutra stem 100mm, BLACK $30 - SKS/ESGE Long cream fenders from Rivendell $35 - Jitensha Bars $25 (Discovered a gauge in the aluminum near-ish the stem. Should be fine, caveat emptor) - Nitto x Fair-weather 42cm (similar to Noodle but shallower drop) $45 - Shimano Brake Levers $25 - SRAM brake levers, BLACK alloy levers $35 Drop me a line and convince me of a deal! Pickup in Oakland, delivery possible if within a decent distance. -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: PSA eBay Riv frame
That's not what happened. Although there have been two bids by the same bidder, the actual bid price is still the same. The original bidder just raised his bid ceiling, to avoid getting aced out at the last minute by a sniper. If someone reconsiders the max they're willing to pay, I see no inherent fault in bidding accordingly. In fact, if it were possible to *lower* your bid ceiling, that would also be a good thing. Peter Adler eighteen-plus years on eBay Berkeley, CA/USA On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 2:42:53 PM UTC-7, Abcyclehank wrote: Is anyone the leading bidder on this frame. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-58cm-Handmade-Waterford-Prototype-/111707168495 I was going to offer checking it out for anyone interested since I am only several miles away but the seller claimed he already boxed it up. Only bidder just raised his bid which announces to the world he essentially outbid himself which is a flaw with eBay auction process. Anyone can slowly raise bids with no risk of ending up with the item and find where the leader bidder maxes out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] PSA eBay Riv frame
Is anyone the leading bidder on this frame. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-58cm-Handmade-Waterford-Prototype-/111707168495 I was going to offer checking it out for anyone interested since I am only several miles away but the seller claimed he already boxed it up. Only bidder just raised his bid which announces to the world he essentially outbid himself which is a flaw with eBay auction process. Anyone can slowly raise bids with no risk of ending up with the item and find where the leader bidder maxes out. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivet review?
On 07/06/2015 05:56 PM, iamkeith wrote: For the sake of consolidating useful info, I'm reviving an old thread rather than starting a new one. But with a request for new/different feedback. I know someone here will be able to help: Can anyone tell me how Rivet saddles compare specifically to the Selle Anatomica? I've been using the later since Tom was around and Deb was a part of things, I think, and have been so happy with them that I just didn't have a reason to change or experiment with others. When something works But Selle Anatomica appears to have recently changed their rail design, and it no longer works for me. I can't slide it far enough forward and, even if I could marginally make it work by buying a zer0-setback seatpost, would likely be precluded from using a Carradice saddle bag support (which clamps onto the rails behind the seat). That alone is a deal breaker. I'm not sure why they did this, because it was the /other/ direction (people sliding them too far backwards) that had been resulting in bent rails and durability issues, from what I've read. I might be reading too much into things, but it seems like they're getting a bit too corporate / mainstream / trend-chasing, too. Their new all-carbon saddle is going the wrong direction for my tastes, for instance, and I don't think Tom's sisters are even personally involved anymore. Do Rivet saddles have similar adjustability range to the older Selle Anatomica Saddles? I'd love to see a side-by-side photo of the undersides, if you know of one or could take one. Can anybody offer any impressions regarding the fit of the different models (Diablo, Independence, Pearl) compared to the Titanico? I assume the Diablo is based on the design of the same name that Tom was working on when he died. I once thought I'd want that, but I'm obviously comfortable with something wider. Or perhaps I should take a look at the new Brooks Cambium. Can anybody offer an impression/comparison in that regard? Although both (most models, anyway) have slots and look somewhat similar, the Rivet and the SAA don't feel much like each other. The Rivet saddles have an arched top. For $25 you can join the Rivet demo program and try them yourself - very well worth it, in my opinion, whether you decide to get one or not. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riding in Greater Muskegon-Newaygo-Grant Michigan Area
Looks we might have mini Entmoot gathering. I'm likely bringing out my 58cm 650b Homer. I'd be great to get together for a ride if schedules allow. On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 2:02:42 PM UTC-4, Abcyclehank wrote: Call me Jay, Lots of good riding along the lakeshore of Ottawa and Muskegon counties. What size Riv and model would you be bringing. If you need a really large ride I could just lend your one possibly. Might be interested in joining you and Tom if desired; unless you are like me and prefer riding solo as 90+% of my rides are. Sincerely, Ryan Spring Lake, MI 40 minutes south of Tom in Twin Lake. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Cambium bartape.
The texture matches the saddle, making for a better grip in wet conditions. I first read this as a joke, like how could matching improve grip, but then thought maybe they are being serious.. Like the surface of the saddle offers good grip when wet. I like the jokey way better. Since we all know that certain colors and styles do improve performance. Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] wtb: Betty Foy (50cm)
Looking for one! Complete or frameset. Thanks!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FOR SALE: Rivendell Silver 57mm Brake Set
Sold! On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 9:53:25 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: Jay -- I'll take them if they are recessed. What did you use instead? Thanks, Patrick Moore On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Call Me Jay callme...@mac.com javascript: wrote: I bought a set of 57mm Silver brakes from Soma about a month ago for $99 plus shipping and handling: http://store.somafab.com/risim.html I removed the front brake from the box to assess clearance but the these are otherwise unused in the original box. Really nice brakes but I ended up using something else. $75 shipped in the Lower 48. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Ram as 650 tourer?!?
Well, I think I'm gonna go for it. Will report back in a few weeks. Thanks! On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:46:15 AM UTC-4, Leslie wrote: I would suggest trying the wheels first, then if it all works out, consider the crank, but no need to jump on the crank instantly, until you know whether the wheels will work or not. I love my Hetres, but the Babyshoe is the 'new' version of them. The Pari-Motos are supposedly great if a little smaller, but I've not tried them. I have the 'force field' Fatty Rumpkins on the Bombadil; they are fine for that bike, but I wouldn't suggest them for a Ram, would totally kill the reason for going to a lighter bike... really tough tire, but, it feels it. My Bomba's wheelset came from Rich (Synergy rims), but I built up my own 650b wheels for my Ram, went w/ the A23 rim, really love it. I would have gone w/ the Dyads (I have them in 700c), but the 650b version of the Dyads wasn't available at the time. RBW used to have a 'budget' 650b wheelset, but it looks like they only have their standard set now... You might try posting an ad for a 650b wheelset here, on the 650b group, iBobs, etc., to get a wheelset that you can verify that your calipers' slot is deep enough to get your pads to align on the rim without rubbing a tire. I had to file to ensure I was clearing my tires, and mine is a late Ram, not an early one. Yours is probably fine since you mentioned that your pads are at the top of the slot, but, I would hate to hear you report back that you had a rear tire blow out and discovered that the pad had been rubbing against the tire... safety first! -L On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 8:57:19 AM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote: On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote: Hello to the group, I'd like to pick y'alls brains (sp?) I have a 64 cm Ram that I bought used, and I'm trying to see how it fits into my stable. I have Compass tires 700 x 32, measures 30, on it now, and I realize that I can either put larger tires on it OR fenders but not both. I wanted both so that it could be used as my credit card touring bike...looking for 38's with full fenders. Would a 650 conversion achieve that? Would it change the ride at all? I've never ridden 650's before. Besides new wheels and possibly brakes, depending on available reach, what other modifications are required? The serial # is R038...any idea as to date of manufacture? Thanks in advance for your wisdom. I've not been much of a contributor but I read this blog daily and always enjoy it and learn from it. Alan LaVine NYC As usual, the group has responded in an exemplary fashion, thanks to all. -I currently have 11 mm clearance at the closest point, which is where the end of the rear fender would attach to the frame between the chain stays. Not much with tires that measure 30. -Not too concerned about pedal strike, not sure if I even pedal thru a turn, but I'm not an aggressive rider to begin with. If this works, I will be changing cranks anyway, so I can go from a 175 to 170. -Currently have Riv silver brakes and the pads are at the highest position in the slot. Measuring, I can get the extra 19 mm needed for 650's in the the lowest point in the slot. Front and rear are the same. -Plan would be for 42 mm tires...any recs for a comfy tire? Flat protection not an issue. So it seems with new wheels and tires, maybe crank, this can happen easily. Any recs for wheels that won't break the bank? The VO ones look quite nice. Also, for a bit of background: I had a Surly LHT that I used for fully loaded touring, and it was excellent. But with a light load, or none, the bike was rigid as hell and my aging, arthritic body and butt were not happy. I stripped it, donated the frame, and put the wheels and components on a vintage Fuji Saratoga made with Ishiwata tubing. More flexible yes, but comfy, and just fine for CC touring. I have 38 Compass tires on it, the largest I've ever used, and love it to death. So I'm just trying to maximize the possibilities with the Ram, and further explore the world of fat tires. Again, heartfelt thanks to all. Alan - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riding in Greater Muskegon-Newaygo-Grant Michigan Area
Sorry Jay smallest bike I could lend you is a 64cm ride. I would love to connect also depending on dates. I am heading to North Carolina with my wife later this month to see extended family. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Cambium bartape.
I have the whitish one, that matches the saddle on my Atlantis. It's a bit stiff to put on, and if wearing black leather gloves, it stains a bit easily. However, once in place it's fine. I have it as is, no shellac. I quite like it. René On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Edwin W dweenda...@hotmail.com wrote: The texture matches the saddle, making for a better grip in wet conditions. I first read this as a joke, like how could matching improve grip, but then thought maybe they are being serious.. Like the surface of the saddle offers good grip when wet. I like the jokey way better. Since we all know that certain colors and styles do improve performance. Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Tues Wed in Sisters/Bend OR
2 days to make the most of this area, hoping to squeeze in a ride and float both days. If anyone has any input re best rides, please share. Thx. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What are these handlebars on Hunq (BLUG CONTENT!)
Hey group, that is my Hunq. The bars are the Ahearne MAP bars in the slightly wider(61.5cm) version. Theyre awesome, but i wish they accepted BE shifters. As for the saddle tilt, well Ive tried levelish but it always feels like im sliding forward. The down tube shifters were put on there in a pinch when I was initially setting it up, I have since put on thumbies. Hope this clears things up! -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Jun 30, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: Curious to know what are these handlebars featured on this Hunq... http://40.media.tumblr.com/3b7bf1968c8406b81532ac6fee2a6dd4/tumblr_npcbr5KRsX1qe3ngpo2_r1_1280.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Eroica California: Might There Be a Riv Contingent?
I rode this year, plan on riding again next year. I didn't want to back-date my Romulus, so I rode my 1940's 3-speed (Short course) My wife rode her Betty, and I know at least one of the Riv staff rode, but not on a Riv. If you are into old bikes, it's a great event - lots to see, lots of like minded folks to talk to. I also ride Cino Heroica in Montana, Which is a totally different experience - more of a community ride on old bikes. (And lots more dirt/gravel) Both rides are good, but I think I prefer Cino. (Rivendell is/has been a sponsor of Cino) For next year, I've ordered a Rodeo, and plan on building it to conform to Cino/Eroica specs. Nick Worthington On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 2:22:03 PM UTC-7, Evan E. wrote: Anyone thinking of going to Eroica California? Paso Robles, April 8-10, 2016. As far as I can tell, lugged Rivendells (as keeper of the flame bikes) qualify if they use non-aero brake levers and downtube shifters or bar-end shifters. And of course vintage bikes are welcome. Details: http://www.eroicacalifornia.com Evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
I heartily disagree with the advice and/or rules to walk on the left side against traffic, at least in my own urban context. I have walked thousands of miles to and from work in the last few years on city sidewalks, and it gradually became clear that nearly every time I have had an incident with a driver was when I was walking on the left side - the biggest single danger I encounter as a pedestrian is from drivers who are leaving a driveway or cross street and looking to their left for oncoming traffic, and do not look to the right for pedestrians who might be coming from the opposite direction of traffic. Fortunately, this is a pretty predictable situation, but I prefer to walk on the right side of the street whenever I can. Walking is not much different from cycling in this regard. James Black Los Angeles, CA On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 5:01:29 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 07/06/2015 01:26 AM, Peter Adler wrote: When I first complaint about this to my 74-year old mother, who'd been out of the US for several years, she told me that in her 50s youth, pedestrians were advised to walk on the pavement against the flow of street traffic, so that they could see dangerous vehicles in advance. She also said that it was advised in women's self-defense classes. I certainly don't remember such advice from my own 70s yoot; does anyone know whether this advice has resurfaced? It never went away, you just missed it somehow. Some recent examples found through googling: If no sidewalks exist on the road, it is recommended to walk facing oncoming traffic on the same side of the road as the oncoming traffic. Also, you should get as far to the side of the road as possible to provide additional space between you and oncoming cars. -- http://www.saferoutesinfo.org/program-tools/what-side-road-should-i-walk Runners should run against traffic, so they can see the traffic coming toward then, says Jason Karp, an author of several books on running including Running a Marathon for Dummies. Everyone I talked to said against traffic is the way to go. Run against traffic, Jean Knaack, executive director for the Road Runners Club of America, told me. More than anything the reason is safety. And an email from Derrell Lyles at the U.S. Department of Transportation makes it official: Walk on sidewalks, if available; if no sidewalk, walk facing traffic. This is the recommendation of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. -- http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-10-23/health/sc-health-1023-fitness-road-running-20131023_1_traffic-sidewalk-enforcement It's not just a good idea, it's also the law in Virginia (and other states as well): § 46.2-928. Pedestrians not to use roadway except when necessary; keeping to left. Pedestrians shall not use the roadways for travel, except when necessary to do so because of the absence of sidewalks which are reasonably suitable and passable for their use. If they walk on the hard surface, or the main travelled portion of the roadway, they shall keep to the extreme left side or edge thereof, or where the shoulders of the highway are of sufficient width to permit, they may walk on either shoulder thereof. Code 1950, § 46-247; 1950, p. 850; 1958, c. 541, § 46.1-234; 1968, c. 165; 1989, c. 727 . -- http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/46.2-928/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Ram as 650 tourer?!?
I would suggest trying the wheels first, then if it all works out, consider the crank, but no need to jump on the crank instantly, until you know whether the wheels will work or not. I love my Hetres, but the Babyshoe is the 'new' version of them. The Pari-Motos are supposedly great if a little smaller, but I've not tried them. I have the 'force field' Fatty Rumpkins on the Bombadil; they are fine for that bike, but I wouldn't suggest them for a Ram, would totally kill the reason for going to a lighter bike... really tough tire, but, it feels it. My Bomba's wheelset came from Rich (Synergy rims), but I built up my own 650b wheels for my Ram, went w/ the A23 rim, really love it. I would have gone w/ the Dyads (I have them in 700c), but the 650b version of the Dyads wasn't available at the time. RBW used to have a 'budget' 650b wheelset, but it looks like they only have their standard set now... You might try posting an ad for a 650b wheelset here, on the 650b group, iBobs, etc., to get a wheelset that you can verify that your calipers' slot is deep enough to get your pads to align on the rim without rubbing a tire. I had to file to ensure I was clearing my tires, and mine is a late Ram, not an early one. Yours is probably fine since you mentioned that your pads are at the top of the slot, but, I would hate to hear you report back that you had a rear tire blow out and discovered that the pad had been rubbing against the tire... safety first! -L On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 8:57:19 AM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote: On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 6:44:47 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote: Hello to the group, I'd like to pick y'alls brains (sp?) I have a 64 cm Ram that I bought used, and I'm trying to see how it fits into my stable. I have Compass tires 700 x 32, measures 30, on it now, and I realize that I can either put larger tires on it OR fenders but not both. I wanted both so that it could be used as my credit card touring bike...looking for 38's with full fenders. Would a 650 conversion achieve that? Would it change the ride at all? I've never ridden 650's before. Besides new wheels and possibly brakes, depending on available reach, what other modifications are required? The serial # is R038...any idea as to date of manufacture? Thanks in advance for your wisdom. I've not been much of a contributor but I read this blog daily and always enjoy it and learn from it. Alan LaVine NYC As usual, the group has responded in an exemplary fashion, thanks to all. -I currently have 11 mm clearance at the closest point, which is where the end of the rear fender would attach to the frame between the chain stays. Not much with tires that measure 30. -Not too concerned about pedal strike, not sure if I even pedal thru a turn, but I'm not an aggressive rider to begin with. If this works, I will be changing cranks anyway, so I can go from a 175 to 170. -Currently have Riv silver brakes and the pads are at the highest position in the slot. Measuring, I can get the extra 19 mm needed for 650's in the the lowest point in the slot. Front and rear are the same. -Plan would be for 42 mm tires...any recs for a comfy tire? Flat protection not an issue. So it seems with new wheels and tires, maybe crank, this can happen easily. Any recs for wheels that won't break the bank? The VO ones look quite nice. Also, for a bit of background: I had a Surly LHT that I used for fully loaded touring, and it was excellent. But with a light load, or none, the bike was rigid as hell and my aging, arthritic body and butt were not happy. I stripped it, donated the frame, and put the wheels and components on a vintage Fuji Saratoga made with Ishiwata tubing. More flexible yes, but comfy, and just fine for CC touring. I have 38 Compass tires on it, the largest I've ever used, and love it to death. So I'm just trying to maximize the possibilities with the Ram, and further explore the world of fat tires. Again, heartfelt thanks to all. Alan - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
I think a factor is speed. If cars are going 35 and bikes are going 15, reaction time is very decreased when facing each other (50 mph differential). If they are going the same direction, the differential is much decreased, from 50 to 20mph. When you are making a decision (not to mention getting hit) a 29 mph differential is much safer and reaction time much longer. For walking, the differential is similar because walking speed is slow. The advantage of seeing cars coming at you outweighs the danger of a rise in speed differential, since it is so small. Jogging probably lies somewhere in between, but I still jog facing traffic since it is practice, often the law, and easier to jump iminto the shoulder if need be. Which reminds me that it is often hard to jump onto the shoulder on a bike, especially compared to jogging. Riding with traffic, walking against, Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
On 07/06/2015 10:36 AM, chocotaco wrote: I heartily disagree with the advice and/or rules to walk on the left side against traffic, at least in my own urban context. I have walked thousands of miles to and from work in the last few years on city sidewalks, and it gradually became clear that nearly every time I have had an incident with a driver was when I was walking on the left side - the biggest single danger I encounter as a pedestrian is from drivers who are leaving a driveway or cross street and looking to their left for oncoming traffic, and do not look to the right for pedestrians who might be coming from the opposite direction of traffic. Fortunately, this is a pretty predictable situation, but I prefer to walk on the right side of the street whenever I can. Walking is not much different from cycling in this regard. The walk on the left advice doesn't apply to sidewalks; there the advice is walk on whichever sidewalk you like. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
totally dependent on location, traffic patterns, anticipated and immediate choices, but I will often swing over to the wrong side of the road in anticipation of making a left turn - now looks like a good time to do it as opposed to later having to stop up there at the intersection. This is actually what I was in the process of doing when the vehicle driver decided he was going to beat me to the punch. If I had my way, we would have both been out of each other's way. Instead, he broke the law and passed me on the left to turn right. On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:14:58 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 07/06/2015 09:53 AM, Eric Norris wrote: I've wondered that myself, so I asked a cycling expert why it was dangerous to ride against traffic. He said a primary reason is that cars are less likely to see you when they are making turns. A driver entering a road will tend to look to his/her left, where cars are coming from. If you're riding against traffic, you'll be approaching the driver from the wrong side, and they'll be more likely to turn onto the road and hit you. Not only will you be where drivers don't expect you, but your speed will be added to the speed of the vehicle. Suppose you're riding at 15 mph and the vehicle is doing 30. If they're overtaking, you'll be subject to a 15 mph impact, but if you're going in opposite directions it'll be a 45 mph impact; and note, the v is squared. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eroica California: Might There Be a Riv Contingent?
I'll be sure to post when it's done. Nick Worthington On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 2:33:30 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I'd love to see photos of the final build and see a detailed build list. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Nick Worthington mrnouv...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: For next year, I've ordered a Rodeo, and plan on building it to conform to Cino/Eroica specs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Wee Rides are Awesome Rides!
Went for a wet foggy san francisco summer morning wee ride. Got up at 5am hit the donut shop for fresh maple crullers then head up San Bruno Mt. for coffee and donuts at the top. Mid-climb realized I forgot to visit the library drop and have a pannier full of books :DOH:. Was hoping the top would be above the clouds, no dice. Still pretty nice way to start the morning with some solitude and nature in a crowded city. ~10 miles ~1300ft climbing https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rb6SfVQqZQ6KMTWmJtsVstcjpkqPptU2XMS1pKoX1yM=w1600-h236-no On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 9:48:41 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: No ride too small! I’ve been recovering this week from the brain overload and adrenaline cycles of rifle shots on last Saturday’s ride. It sure was a blessing to get out on today’s recovery ride of 8 miles, as well as get to blow past the poor folks in line two miles back from the Pikes Peak Highway gate (4th of July is a big day for them, America’s Mountain, where America the Beautiful was written). https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/19404757762/in/dateposted-public/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
On 07/06/2015 09:53 AM, Eric Norris wrote: I've wondered that myself, so I asked a cycling expert why it was dangerous to ride against traffic. He said a primary reason is that cars are less likely to see you when they are making turns. A driver entering a road will tend to look to his/her left, where cars are coming from. If you're riding against traffic, you'll be approaching the driver from the wrong side, and they'll be more likely to turn onto the road and hit you. Not only will you be where drivers don't expect you, but your speed will be added to the speed of the vehicle. Suppose you're riding at 15 mph and the vehicle is doing 30. If they're overtaking, you'll be subject to a 15 mph impact, but if you're going in opposite directions it'll be a 45 mph impact; and note, the v is squared. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
On 07/06/2015 11:25 AM, Ron Mc wrote: totally dependent on location, traffic patterns, anticipated and immediate choices, but I will often swing over to the wrong side of the road in anticipation of making a left turn - now looks like a good time to do it as opposed to later having to stop up there at the intersection. This is actually what I was in the process of doing when the vehicle driver decided he was going to beat me to the punch. If I had my way, we would have both been out of each other's way. Instead, he broke the law and passed me on the left to turn right. You make left turns from the wrong side of the road, across the double yellow line? Or do you mean you move over to the left side of your travel lane, adjacent to the double yellow line, in preparation for making a left turn? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
This topic is a pet peeve of mine, especially when I a drive the car. If my wife is in the car with me, she calls me the Bike Nazi. She can hear me complaining under my breath every time I see someone riding on the wrong side of the road. Riding with traffic is so much more convenient and safer for everyone. I think. It's easier to make left-hand turns when you take the road. Riding with traffic contributes to the predictability of the traffic flow and reduces the risk of an accident. If you're uncomfortable about doing that, you can always use the crosswalks. What's the rush anyway: you're on a bike, enjoy the ride. Not to be elitist, but I think people who commute to work on bicycles are a much more savvier lot that than casual rider. The ones I know know the rules of the road. It just a matter of educating cyclists about that at an early age. I imagine places like Denmark are the model to follow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Kermit Chair
Hey everyone who posted about the Kermit Chair after the Entmoot: Thanks for the info! http://www.kermitchair.com/ Finally got around to order a pair as the fabric/stitching on our 16 year old folders is about to give way. Looking forward to the upgrade. Will post hear once they arrive with a super-fast review and comments. Again, thanks! Liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Any Riv riders in or around the Flathead Valley, MT?
Can't answer directly, but I've traveled out there for the last two years for the Cino Heroica ride. Great folks at Glacier Cyclery in Whitefish, and Montana Adveture Sports in Big Fork. Also a shout-out to the Whitefish Bike Retreat. Nick Worthington. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I was turning left this morning
essentially bailing across the road to tuck into a parking lot 40' away (and essentially continuous parking lots before you get there). This particular spot has a blind tee (view obstructed by a twisted live oak) and people often charge through looking right into the face a cyclist, which makes being ready to bail to the other side of the road the best escape. Like I said, this is downtown hamlet in front of the JP and speed limit is aggressively enforced. I can think of another place where everybody, and I mean everybody rides a bike on the wrong side shoulder of the access road for about 100 yds to connect two bike greenways separated by Brooke Army Medical Center. A third spot I can think of is crossing a 55 mph hwy to turn left at a topping hill and sweeping turn, where evaluating traffic and making the crossing while you can and riding 50' the wrong way on the shoulder is smarter than turning left in the middle of the sweeping turn On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:54:20 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 07/06/2015 11:25 AM, Ron Mc wrote: totally dependent on location, traffic patterns, anticipated and immediate choices, but I will often swing over to the wrong side of the road in anticipation of making a left turn - now looks like a good time to do it as opposed to later having to stop up there at the intersection. This is actually what I was in the process of doing when the vehicle driver decided he was going to beat me to the punch. If I had my way, we would have both been out of each other's way. Instead, he broke the law and passed me on the left to turn right. You make left turns from the wrong side of the road, across the double yellow line? Or do you mean you move over to the left side of your travel lane, adjacent to the double yellow line, in preparation for making a left turn? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
