Re: [RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

[Evan E.]

"Keep riding and writing. You never know who you might reach." < Beautifully 
said, Eunice. I'm always glad to see you here, and glad to remember Seth.

Evan


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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

[Lungimsam]

Just call RBW to find out what is going on. Then you can decide if you want the 
Hunq or if you wanna wait.

I will say that the Hunqs sure are pretty.
Is it intended as a tourer or Mountainbike?

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[RBW] Re: Brifters on Noodles?

[Joe Bernard]

PM sent, Geoffrey. I was kinda on the fence about going ahead with this, or 
sticking with the current setup longer to see if I adapt to it. A used set 
of Noodles would be great.

Joe Bernard

On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:11:24 AM UTC-7, Geoffrey wrote:

> Noodles have a 95mm reach.  If you haven't bought some yet Joe, I have a 
> pair I'm trying to part with.
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 11:18:54 PM UTC-5, William deRosset wrote:
>>
>> Dear Joe,
>>
>> Check the reach of the bars. The noodles are a pretty-normal 90mm reach, 
>> 140mm drop. If the Salsa bars have a shorter reach, then the levers will be 
>> farther away on the noodle than they were on the Salsa. In practice, I use 
>> the bulge-formed noodle bar and the Compass 1970's bend bars(115/125). I 
>> have to adjust the stem length, but they're both lovely bars with Ergo and 
>> Doubletap levers.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Will
>> William M. deRosset
>> Fort Collins, CO
>>
>> On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 5:34:26 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> I picked up a Bike Friday a few weeks ago, my first dropbar bike in 10 
>>> years. I'm liking the Shimano Sora brifters enough to stick with them for a 
>>> while (a vast improvement over the first-gen 9-speed Ultegras I tried years 
>>> ago), but the 42cm Salsa bars just ain't cuttin' it. My last dropbars were 
>>> 44cm Noodles, which I loved. My concern is that being slightly wider, with 
>>> a long ramp, might make the reach to pushing those shifters sideways a bit 
>>> long. Does anyone here have experience with this setup? 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joe "click click" Bernard
>>> Vallejo, CA. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

[Bill Lindsay]

indeed.  Also I'm keeping the Sam Hillborne, the Windsor, and the Ibis 
tandem.  

On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 12:55:01 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> keeping the Rawland's and the Atlantis I see...   
>
> ~mike
> Carlsbad Ca
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

[Joe Bernard]

You might be better off buying the Hunq soon; enjoy it for a year or two; 
then sell for a new Riv. There's no telling how far off the bike with this 
crown is, and it should be noted that the much ballyhooed Mystery Bike 
never became a production model.

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:52:41 PM UTC-7, Shelby Munn wrote:
>
> I was saving for a Hunqapillar, but may now be interested in the awaited 
> details of the bike built around this crown.

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Re: [RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

[Eunice Chang]

Leslie,

I'm glad I'm here too. Thanks.

-E.

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Leslie  wrote:

> On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 9:02:45 AM UTC-4, Eunice Chang wrote:
>>
>> David,
>>
>> Ah, but you did. He was pretty real online, wasn't he? :)
>>
>>
>
> Yes, yes he was.   He and I had many common points of reference (E&H,
> MSL), so we had struck up a friendship;   I'd hoped he'd have been able to
> make it to MSL when Grant's book tour swung through Bristol, so we could
> have met IRL, but, yes, he was just as real having even not having been at
> the same physical location at the same time.
>
> I still miss him on here.
>
> I'm glad you're on here now.
>
>
> -L
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Re: [RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

[Eunice Chang]

Patrick,

Yes, that's it!

-E.

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> I think this is the comic you mean, Eunice? The link didn't work for me:
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 10:31:23 AM UTC-6, Eunice Chang wrote:
>>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> You may have a point - here's a Yehuda Moon comic illustrating that.
>>
>> http://yehudamoon.com/comics/2010-05-19.gif
>>
>> -E.
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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

[Will]

Nope. The first ride's gonna be easy. What's hard is leaving a Riv that 
first time in a public bike rack to run errands. It is expensive and 
IT_LOOKS_EXPENSIVE. 

There it sits... obvious as a neon sign. You know, without question, it is 
cat-nip for desperados. 

So... Aloha, after you get settled and you decide that you can no longer 
ride whatever it is you have now for errands, cause... well... you'll 
see... 

Post again and we'll talk about locks. You'll need a good one. 

Will 

On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 2:11:47 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Enjoy being nervous. You won't be after you take your first ride. Grin. 
> That's precisely the experience of myself and many of us on this group. 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 8:53:09 PM UTC-6, Alohashirt wrote:
>>
>> In 40+ years of cycling, I never thought I'd buy something sight unseen 
>> without even a test ride. And I never thought I'd buy a mixte. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

[Mike Schiller]

keeping the Rawland's and the Atlantis I see...   

~mike
Carlsbad Ca


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Re: [RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

[Deacon Patrick]

I think this is the comic you mean, Eunice? The link didn't work for me:




On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 10:31:23 AM UTC-6, Eunice Chang wrote:
>
> Patrick, 
>
> You may have a point - here's a Yehuda Moon comic illustrating that.
>
> http://yehudamoon.com/comics/2010-05-19.gif
>
> -E.
>

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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

[Deacon Patrick]

Enjoy being nervous. You won't be after you take your first ride. Grin. 
That's precisely the experience of myself and many of us on this group. 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 8:53:09 PM UTC-6, Alohashirt wrote:
>
> In 40+ years of cycling, I never thought I'd buy something sight unseen 
> without even a test ride. And I never thought I'd buy a mixte. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

[Michael Hechmer]

You shall not be disappointed.  I own a Ram and a Saluki.  I bought my wife 
the very last Betty, the floor model, and when ever my (40 year old) 
daughter sees it, I can see the lust in her eyes!  Maybe some year I'll get 
a tax refund big enough to buy her a Clem, a bike which I have never seen!

michael


On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 10:53:09 PM UTC-4, Alohashirt wrote:
>
> In 40+ years of cycling, I never thought I'd buy something sight unseen 
> without even a test ride. And I never thought I'd buy a mixte. 
>
> But I've never read a word of complaint or buyer's remorse about Rivs. The 
> love owners seem to have for these bikes is unusual, so I decided it was 
> worth parting with nearly $3K of my hard-earned dollars to get the Chev. I 
> could have thoroughly pimped out a Clementine for much less, but I totally 
> fell for the lugs, the lines, and the whole package.
>
> I'm in my early 50's, live in Virginia, and ride for the pure joy of it on 
> paved paths and gravel trails. I'm all for beusage, but want to keep the 
> occasional mud and slime off the important parts. Any tips for how best to 
> keep it un-crapified?
>

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[RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

[Michael Hechmer]

Hi Eunice,  anniversaries can be hard but it is always better to celebrate 
them than to try to forget.  What a wonderful way you have found to honor 
his spirit and remember the blessings he brought to so many of us!  We are 
with you in spirit.

We honor Seth by pushing for better & safer cycling infrastructure and 
against knee jerk police reports that blame the cyclist.

Michael

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 10:15:20 PM UTC-4, Eunice Chang wrote:
>
> I've been meaning to write this since last year.
>
> Most of you know Seth Vidal, who frequented RBW list and who was killed in 
> a hit and run two years ago. One of the things he liked was the ride 
> reports. He'd share them with me and we'd plan rides. 
>
> I joined the list a few months after he died, mostly just to update the 
> group, but I've also read some of your ride reports, and they were very, 
> very helpful on getting me back on the bike and rediscovering a new, but 
> different, kind of joy that only bicycles can provide. I thought I'd 
> contribute as well. It's also my small way of saying thanks for your 
> support, intentional or not. 
>
> I've organized rides of remembrance on the day he died, and I rode his 
> Hilsen in both cases. This year, a friend of mine borrowed my QB for the 
> memorial ride so two Rivs were well represented. :)
>
> The ride was roughly 2 miles- it was just a slow roll through the 
> neighborhood to the area where Seth was killed, to where the ghost bike 
> was,  have a moment of silence, and then through a very short trail along 
> Ellerbee Creek and back to the starting point. We went to a pub later. The 
> most amazing thing was that when we all lined up in front of the ghost 
> bike, traffic actually slowed down (it almost never does- it's a 35 mph but 
> since it leads to highways on both ends, most folks go 45-50).
>
> I led the ride, but I am a terrible ride leader. Last year, I rode really 
> fast ahead of the pack and it became a joke (after years of riding the 
> tandem and having Seth tell me to pedal harder, it's kind of hard to break 
> the habit). This year a friend took me for an impromptu 14 mile ride the 
> day before and another friend made sure I had a few beers in before the 
> ride. I apparently still went too fast, and someone kind of had to chase me 
> down to make sure I waited for the group. And honestly, I tried to slow 
> down. It's not my fault Rivs are extremely efficient machines. 
>
> And I would have taken photos, except I managed to destroy my camera with 
> the water from the bouquet of sunflowers (Seth's favorite) that I left at 
> the ghost bike. So I've collected others' into this album:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/sets/72157655728650855
>
> Keep riding and writing. You never know who you might reach. 
>
> -Eunice "still enjoying the ride" Chang
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Still selling 64cm Sam Hillborne frameset + parts + additional misc. items

[Mike Shaljian]

Hi all,

I thought I had a local buyer for my Sam Hillborne and most of the parts aside 
from the wheelset (since bought by a group member), but they backed out this 
morning. Therefore, I am going forward with parting out my Sam Hillborne. You 
can still see the bike and most of the parts I'm selling here 
(http://imgur.com/a/hedAr) and I will add more of the other items later. The 
attached Google Doc (http://bit.ly/1gupMsP) will be live-updated as thing are 
sold, and the price in the second column is what I'm asking, plus shipping at 
my cost. I am more interested in selling as much of the frame and what's on the 
frame as I can, and a package of frameset/b.b/crank is most desirable. 
Additional parts bought will get you the discounts shown on the spreadsheet. 
10% off if you buy most or all of it, and some deals for other combos as well. 

Please let me know if I can answer any questions you may have and thanks again 
for looking! Please contact me off-list or at mikeshalj...@gmail.com with 
inquiries. Thanks! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

[Leslie]

On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 9:02:45 AM UTC-4, Eunice Chang wrote:
>
> David,
>
> Ah, but you did. He was pretty real online, wasn't he? :)
>
>

Yes, yes he was.   He and I had many common points of reference (E&H, MSL), 
so we had struck up a friendship;   I'd hoped he'd have been able to make 
it to MSL when Grant's book tour swung through Bristol, so we could have 
met IRL, but, yes, he was just as real having even not having been at the 
same physical location at the same time.   

I still miss him on here.

I'm glad you're on here now.  


-L

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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

[Lungimsam]

Yes, they will install fenders for you if you want, for a fee.
At least they did in 2013.

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Re: [RBW] ride of remembrance

[Eunice Chang]

Steve,

Durham, NC.

-E.

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Steven Sweedler 
wrote:

> Eunice, thanks for sharing, also knew Seth from  the Bob list, what city
> did this happen in. Steve
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
>
> On Friday, July 10, 2015, Eunice Chang  wrote:
>
>> I've been meaning to write this since last year.
>>
>> Most of you know Seth Vidal, who frequented RBW list and who was killed
>> in a hit and run two years ago. One of the things he liked was the ride
>> reports. He'd share them with me and we'd plan rides.
>>
>> I joined the list a few months after he died, mostly just to update the
>> group, but I've also read some of your ride reports, and they were very,
>> very helpful on getting me back on the bike and rediscovering a new, but
>> different, kind of joy that only bicycles can provide. I thought I'd
>> contribute as well. It's also my small way of saying thanks for your
>> support, intentional or not.
>>
>> I've organized rides of remembrance on the day he died, and I rode his
>> Hilsen in both cases. This year, a friend of mine borrowed my QB for the
>> memorial ride so two Rivs were well represented. :)
>>
>> The ride was roughly 2 miles- it was just a slow roll through the
>> neighborhood to the area where Seth was killed, to where the ghost bike
>> was,  have a moment of silence, and then through a very short trail along
>> Ellerbee Creek and back to the starting point. We went to a pub later. The
>> most amazing thing was that when we all lined up in front of the ghost
>> bike, traffic actually slowed down (it almost never does- it's a 35 mph but
>> since it leads to highways on both ends, most folks go 45-50).
>>
>> I led the ride, but I am a terrible ride leader. Last year, I rode really
>> fast ahead of the pack and it became a joke (after years of riding the
>> tandem and having Seth tell me to pedal harder, it's kind of hard to break
>> the habit). This year a friend took me for an impromptu 14 mile ride the
>> day before and another friend made sure I had a few beers in before the
>> ride. I apparently still went too fast, and someone kind of had to chase me
>> down to make sure I waited for the group. And honestly, I tried to slow
>> down. It's not my fault Rivs are extremely efficient machines.
>>
>> And I would have taken photos, except I managed to destroy my camera with
>> the water from the bouquet of sunflowers (Seth's favorite) that I left at
>> the ghost bike. So I've collected others' into this album:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/sets/72157655728650855
>>
>> Keep riding and writing. You never know who you might reach.
>>
>> -Eunice "still enjoying the ride" Chang
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

[Eunice Chang]

Patrick,

You may have a point - here's a Yehuda Moon comic illustrating that.

http://yehudamoon.com/comics/2010-05-19.gif

-E.

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Perhaps you have to ride ahead to ride with Seth. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 8:15:20 PM UTC-6, Eunice Chang wrote:
>>
>> And honestly, I tried to slow down. It's not my fault Rivs are extremely
>> efficient machines.
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Re: [RBW] ride of remembrance

[Steven Sweedler]

Eunice, thanks for sharing, also knew Seth from  the Bob list, what city
did this happen in. Steve
Plymouth, New Hampshire

On Friday, July 10, 2015, Eunice Chang  wrote:

> I've been meaning to write this since last year.
>
> Most of you know Seth Vidal, who frequented RBW list and who was killed in
> a hit and run two years ago. One of the things he liked was the ride
> reports. He'd share them with me and we'd plan rides.
>
> I joined the list a few months after he died, mostly just to update the
> group, but I've also read some of your ride reports, and they were very,
> very helpful on getting me back on the bike and rediscovering a new, but
> different, kind of joy that only bicycles can provide. I thought I'd
> contribute as well. It's also my small way of saying thanks for your
> support, intentional or not.
>
> I've organized rides of remembrance on the day he died, and I rode his
> Hilsen in both cases. This year, a friend of mine borrowed my QB for the
> memorial ride so two Rivs were well represented. :)
>
> The ride was roughly 2 miles- it was just a slow roll through the
> neighborhood to the area where Seth was killed, to where the ghost bike
> was,  have a moment of silence, and then through a very short trail along
> Ellerbee Creek and back to the starting point. We went to a pub later. The
> most amazing thing was that when we all lined up in front of the ghost
> bike, traffic actually slowed down (it almost never does- it's a 35 mph but
> since it leads to highways on both ends, most folks go 45-50).
>
> I led the ride, but I am a terrible ride leader. Last year, I rode really
> fast ahead of the pack and it became a joke (after years of riding the
> tandem and having Seth tell me to pedal harder, it's kind of hard to break
> the habit). This year a friend took me for an impromptu 14 mile ride the
> day before and another friend made sure I had a few beers in before the
> ride. I apparently still went too fast, and someone kind of had to chase me
> down to make sure I waited for the group. And honestly, I tried to slow
> down. It's not my fault Rivs are extremely efficient machines.
>
> And I would have taken photos, except I managed to destroy my camera with
> the water from the bouquet of sunflowers (Seth's favorite) that I left at
> the ghost bike. So I've collected others' into this album:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/sets/72157655728650855
>
> Keep riding and writing. You never know who you might reach.
>
> -Eunice "still enjoying the ride" Chang
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Not all that glitters is gold...

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

> Thanks Manny for sharing your story and as always your award winning 
> photos.
>
These are the times I miss California.
Jon 

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[RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

Eunice,
>
I never knew Seth..thank you for sharing your story and pictures of your 
ride great group of friends. 
Jon

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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

[KC]

Mine has been having great fun in oregon for the last month and will be 
spending next week in the bay area.  I was at riv end of day yesterday and saw 
a beautiful large orange one being assembled but guessing it wasn't yours. It 
had fenders - they wouldn't put fenders on to ship, would they?

Very happy for you. Lots of fun ahead

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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

[KC]

Mine has been having great fun in oregon for the last month and will be 
spending next week in the bay area.  I was at riv end of day yesterday and saw 
a beautiful large orange one being assembled but guessing it wasn't yours. It 
had fenders - they wouldn't put fenders on to ship, would they?

Very happy for you. Lots of fun ahead

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[RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

[KC]

Great way to honor him. Great way to start my day in tears. Thank you for 
sharing.

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Re: [RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

[cyclotourist]

Point taken!

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Eunice Chang  wrote:
> David,
>
> Ah, but you did. He was pretty real online, wasn't he? :)
>
> -E.
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 12:11 AM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Eunice. I'm glad to read about and see the good people you have
>> there.
>>
>> I have amazed by the random people that I've met online that knew
>> Seth. Simple things like selling something on Craigslist, or posting
>> on a mountain bike forum. A person will ask me "Did you know Seth?"
>> I'll sheepishly reply that I only knew him online and not in real
>> life.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:26 PM, dougP  wrote:
>> > Eunice:
>> >
>> > Thanks for taking the time to assembly those photos & post.  It's
>> > wonderful
>> > that a ride of remembrance continues.  It's said that so long as a
>> > person is
>> > remembered, that person is still with us.
>> >
>> > dougP
>> >
>> >
>> > On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:15:20 PM UTC-7, Eunice Chang wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've been meaning to write this since last year.
>> >>
>> >> Most of you know Seth Vidal, who frequented RBW list and who was killed
>> >> in
>> >> a hit and run two years ago. One of the things he liked was the ride
>> >> reports. He'd share them with me and we'd plan rides.
>> >>
>> >> I joined the list a few months after he died, mostly just to update the
>> >> group, but I've also read some of your ride reports, and they were
>> >> very,
>> >> very helpful on getting me back on the bike and rediscovering a new,
>> >> but
>> >> different, kind of joy that only bicycles can provide. I thought I'd
>> >> contribute as well. It's also my small way of saying thanks for your
>> >> support, intentional or not.
>> >>
>> >> I've organized rides of remembrance on the day he died, and I rode his
>> >> Hilsen in both cases. This year, a friend of mine borrowed my QB for
>> >> the
>> >> memorial ride so two Rivs were well represented. :)
>> >>
>> >> The ride was roughly 2 miles- it was just a slow roll through the
>> >> neighborhood to the area where Seth was killed, to where the ghost bike
>> >> was,
>> >> have a moment of silence, and then through a very short trail along
>> >> Ellerbee
>> >> Creek and back to the starting point. We went to a pub later. The most
>> >> amazing thing was that when we all lined up in front of the ghost bike,
>> >> traffic actually slowed down (it almost never does- it's a 35 mph but
>> >> since
>> >> it leads to highways on both ends, most folks go 45-50).
>> >>
>> >> I led the ride, but I am a terrible ride leader. Last year, I rode
>> >> really
>> >> fast ahead of the pack and it became a joke (after years of riding the
>> >> tandem and having Seth tell me to pedal harder, it's kind of hard to
>> >> break
>> >> the habit). This year a friend took me for an impromptu 14 mile ride
>> >> the day
>> >> before and another friend made sure I had a few beers in before the
>> >> ride. I
>> >> apparently still went too fast, and someone kind of had to chase me
>> >> down to
>> >> make sure I waited for the group. And honestly, I tried to slow down.
>> >> It's
>> >> not my fault Rivs are extremely efficient machines.
>> >>
>> >> And I would have taken photos, except I managed to destroy my camera
>> >> with
>> >> the water from the bouquet of sunflowers (Seth's favorite) that I left
>> >> at
>> >> the ghost bike. So I've collected others' into this album:
>> >>
>> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/sets/72157655728650855
>> >>
>> >> Keep riding and writing. You never know who you might reach.
>> >>
>> >> -Eunice "still enjoying the ride" Chang
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>>
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>>
>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
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[RBW] Re: Bars on the Hunqapillar

[Takashi]

No matter which bars you choose, you will enjoy riding your Hunq. That's 
for sure.

I use Shimano brakes CX70.
I took away the Y-shaped link wire which came with brakes 
(http://www.cb-asahi.co.jp/item/86/33/item10013386.html)
and replaced them with Dia-Compe's straddle hanger yoke 
(http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ca21.htm).
They let me remove brake cables easily.
With those yokes and my shifters mounted on downtube, I can swap my 
handlebars without using cable splitters.

I personally like Noodles when riding more than 60km.
Other handlebars make my hands numb when riding long distance.
I still love upright bars, since they let me look at sceneries better.
I seldom ride in hurry, so when my hands get numb, I just get off, rest for 
a while, and ride again.

Takashi


2015年7月9日木曜日 23時50分27秒 UTC+9 Shoji Takahashi:
>
> I've set up my Hunqapillar with all of 'em:
> Noodles (48cm, 10-cm stem)
> Albatross (12-cm stem)
> Bullmoose
> Moustache (7-cm stem)
>
> I use cable splitters for quick changes of handlebars. Takes ~10 min to 
> swap from one to another. (Takashi, who's also on this group with a 
> Hunqapillar, is also a bar swapper. I think he uses down-tube shifters, 
> which would vastly simplify swapping.)
>
> I chose a smaller Hunqapillar (with my PBH, the recommendation is 48 or 
> 51-- I went with 48), as I wanted a drop-bar. Albatross is fine on it, but 
> I could probably use a longer stem. Bullmoose is good, but I think the head 
> tube is higher than I want. 
>
> My favorites are moustache and noodles for this bike. But I swap bars 
> somewhat regularly, because it's almost like having 4 different bikes. 
>
> Some pics of the different set ups: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/sets/72157644332271299
>
> Happy riding!
> Shoji
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:38:03 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>>
>> my hunq had albatross bars and a 11cm tallux for most of it's life. for 
>> most normal day riding, i was very happy with that even though i mostly 
>> found my hands sliding forward to the curves, kinda sitting on top of the 
>> brake clamps.  on a 1.5 week tour, this started to become quite 
>> uncomfortable. separately, i couldnt find a comfortable place for my hands 
>> on long, steep climbs. they wanted to go to the front of the bar, but the 
>> downslope made that feel weird.  anyway, i got home, got curious, and put 
>> on an albastache with 8cm dirt drop stem. so far so good. haven't done any 
>> multi day rides yet where they will truly reveal themselves, but the 
>> albastache are great/comfortable/uprightish with still some forward lean 
>> capability for the 10 mile rides ive been doing.  
>>
>> also, ill come out and say that i think mustache style bars look great, 
>> and ill admit that i kept the albatross cockpit fully intact for 
>> re-plugging in, because it truly was an almost always perfect set up that 
>> im not yet fully convinced i have improved on. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

[Kellie]

No need to be nervous... YOU WILL LOVE IT! I went for a Cheviot when my 
daughter showed interest in my Hillborne (I'd had it a year). I'd been 
intrigued by the Cheviot when it first came out and fell for it with the 
new green color. It's amazing. Green or orange you have nothing but 
pleasure to look forward to. Here's mine on a muddy rail ride.





On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:53:09 PM UTC-7, Alohashirt wrote:
>
> In 40+ years of cycling, I never thought I'd buy something sight unseen 
> without even a test ride. And I never thought I'd buy a mixte. 
>
> But I've never read a word of complaint or buyer's remorse about Rivs. The 
> love owners seem to have for these bikes is unusual, so I decided it was 
> worth parting with nearly $3K of my hard-earned dollars to get the Chev. I 
> could have thoroughly pimped out a Clementine for much less, but I totally 
> fell for the lugs, the lines, and the whole package.
>
> I'm in my early 50's, live in Virginia, and ride for the pure joy of it on 
> paved paths and gravel trails. I'm all for beusage, but want to keep the 
> occasional mud and slime off the important parts. Any tips for how best to 
> keep it un-crapified?
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet review?

[Deacon Patrick]

I initially tried Rivet saddles because of Debbie's one year trial refund. 
I got on the Diablo and haven't looked back since.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

[Deacon Patrick]

Perhaps you have to ride ahead to ride with Seth. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 8:15:20 PM UTC-6, Eunice Chang wrote:
>
> And honestly, I tried to slow down. It's not my fault Rivs are extremely 
> efficient machines. 
>

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[RBW] Re: RIVELO-PDX RIV deler and servicing bikes

[Beth H]

I've visted Rivelo a few times -- it's clear across town from where I live 
but a very pleasant ride there and back. Photos for anyone who hasn't seen 
it, I took a few pix before the official grand opening. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/sets/72157653044355950

If you live in or near Portland, stop in and say hi. 
If you're planning a visit, stop in and say hi.
It's all good.

Beth in PDX

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 10:52:56 PM UTC-7, GRANT @ RIV wrote:
>
> Also, for those of you in the area who haven't been by RIVELO, you should 
> know that John is disarmingly casual but knows our bikes through and 
> through. Everybody here misses him.
>

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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

[Beth H]

What everyone else here has said. Fenders are key. I'd also keep a soft rag 
by the back door so you can wipe it down at the end of a very wet weather 
ride. And for anyone still on the fence about the Chev, here's a photo I 
took of one at Rivelo, the new Riv-esque shop in SE Portland.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/17913151748/in/album-72157653044355950/

Super-yummy bike. And comfy, and smooth.
Enjoy your Chev --Beth in PDX


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[RBW] Re: Rivet review?

[Geoffrey]

I have three Rivet pearl seats.  I'm obviously a fan.  The leather is 
thicker than a brooks (I have one that is well broken in) but once the 
Rivet breaks in (quicker than a brooks btw) it seems much softer.  I ride 
mine with 2 degrees nose up.  Great saddles.

On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 12:11:23 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Too bad they don't make a sprung saddle.

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[RBW] Re: Brifters on Noodles?

[Geoffrey]

Noodles have a 95mm reach.  If you haven't bought some yet Joe, I have a 
pair I'm trying to part with.



On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 11:18:54 PM UTC-5, William deRosset wrote:
>
> Dear Joe,
>
> Check the reach of the bars. The noodles are a pretty-normal 90mm reach, 
> 140mm drop. If the Salsa bars have a shorter reach, then the levers will be 
> farther away on the noodle than they were on the Salsa. In practice, I use 
> the bulge-formed noodle bar and the Compass 1970's bend bars(115/125). I 
> have to adjust the stem length, but they're both lovely bars with Ergo and 
> Doubletap levers.
>
> Best,
>
> Will
> William M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
>
> On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 5:34:26 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> I picked up a Bike Friday a few weeks ago, my first dropbar bike in 10 
>> years. I'm liking the Shimano Sora brifters enough to stick with them for a 
>> while (a vast improvement over the first-gen 9-speed Ultegras I tried years 
>> ago), but the 42cm Salsa bars just ain't cuttin' it. My last dropbars were 
>> 44cm Noodles, which I loved. My concern is that being slightly wider, with 
>> a long ramp, might make the reach to pushing those shifters sideways a bit 
>> long. Does anyone here have experience with this setup? 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joe "click click" Bernard
>> Vallejo, CA. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 54 Bleriot on Bay Area CL - $995!

[Johnny Alien]

Riv recommends the 53 for your PBH.  You might inch into the lowest 
suggested for 55 but I have a slightly higher PBH and I was more 
comfortable on the 53 vs the 55.

http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/bleriot_bro.pdf

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 1:27:39 PM UTC-4, Daniel D. wrote:
>
> dang you for outing it :p.  But since it's out there looks to be a 53? 
>  Not sure it would fit anyway with my 5'8" 79pbh
>
> On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 9:54:51 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> This looks legit since it is being sold at Livermore Cyclery.  Seemed 
>> like a screaming deal since they are trying to sell it quickly.
>>
>> John
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

[Eunice Chang]

Bill,

You had to post these a few days before my birthday? And in my size too?

Argghhh.

-E.

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 1:31 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I'm roughly 5'11".  My saddle height is 75.5cm.  PBH something like 86.5 -
> 87cm.
>
>
> On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:54:24 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bill, If you don't mind my asking, what's your height and PBH?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> D.
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Re: [RBW] Re: ride of remembrance

[Eunice Chang]

David,

Ah, but you did. He was pretty real online, wasn't he? :)

-E.

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 12:11 AM, cyclotourist 
wrote:

> Thank you Eunice. I'm glad to read about and see the good people you have
> there.
>
> I have amazed by the random people that I've met online that knew
> Seth. Simple things like selling something on Craigslist, or posting
> on a mountain bike forum. A person will ask me "Did you know Seth?"
> I'll sheepishly reply that I only knew him online and not in real
> life.
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:26 PM, dougP  wrote:
> > Eunice:
> >
> > Thanks for taking the time to assembly those photos & post.  It's
> wonderful
> > that a ride of remembrance continues.  It's said that so long as a
> person is
> > remembered, that person is still with us.
> >
> > dougP
> >
> >
> > On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 7:15:20 PM UTC-7, Eunice Chang wrote:
> >>
> >> I've been meaning to write this since last year.
> >>
> >> Most of you know Seth Vidal, who frequented RBW list and who was killed
> in
> >> a hit and run two years ago. One of the things he liked was the ride
> >> reports. He'd share them with me and we'd plan rides.
> >>
> >> I joined the list a few months after he died, mostly just to update the
> >> group, but I've also read some of your ride reports, and they were very,
> >> very helpful on getting me back on the bike and rediscovering a new, but
> >> different, kind of joy that only bicycles can provide. I thought I'd
> >> contribute as well. It's also my small way of saying thanks for your
> >> support, intentional or not.
> >>
> >> I've organized rides of remembrance on the day he died, and I rode his
> >> Hilsen in both cases. This year, a friend of mine borrowed my QB for the
> >> memorial ride so two Rivs were well represented. :)
> >>
> >> The ride was roughly 2 miles- it was just a slow roll through the
> >> neighborhood to the area where Seth was killed, to where the ghost bike
> was,
> >> have a moment of silence, and then through a very short trail along
> Ellerbee
> >> Creek and back to the starting point. We went to a pub later. The most
> >> amazing thing was that when we all lined up in front of the ghost bike,
> >> traffic actually slowed down (it almost never does- it's a 35 mph but
> since
> >> it leads to highways on both ends, most folks go 45-50).
> >>
> >> I led the ride, but I am a terrible ride leader. Last year, I rode
> really
> >> fast ahead of the pack and it became a joke (after years of riding the
> >> tandem and having Seth tell me to pedal harder, it's kind of hard to
> break
> >> the habit). This year a friend took me for an impromptu 14 mile ride
> the day
> >> before and another friend made sure I had a few beers in before the
> ride. I
> >> apparently still went too fast, and someone kind of had to chase me
> down to
> >> make sure I waited for the group. And honestly, I tried to slow down.
> It's
> >> not my fault Rivs are extremely efficient machines.
> >>
> >> And I would have taken photos, except I managed to destroy my camera
> with
> >> the water from the bouquet of sunflowers (Seth's favorite) that I left
> at
> >> the ghost bike. So I've collected others' into this album:
> >>
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/sets/72157655728650855
> >>
> >> Keep riding and writing. You never know who you might reach.
> >>
> >> -Eunice "still enjoying the ride" Chang
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Cheers,
> David
>
> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

[Steve Palincsar]

Tips to keep mud and slime off the bike:  1) fenders  2) mud flaps  3) wash the 
bike afterwards.

Ease of mounting fenders is largely in the hands of the bike designer: 
improperly placed bridges will make getting a good fender line difficult.  Some 
Rivendells are good in that respect -- my Saluki fendered easily -- but I've 
seen others (a friend's Atlantis comes to mind) where the chainstay bridge was 
so far from correct she had to use the full length of a wine cork to space the 
fender.  Do make sure you have adequate clearance.

Perhaps we should have a thread about bike washing techniques.  I use the 
two-bucket method, something I read in a bicycling magazine once many years 
ago.  

- Original Message -
From: "Ron Mc" 
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 7:24:24 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!


sounds like you bought a custom-for-you bike right off the shelf 

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 9:53:09 PM UTC-5, Alohashirt wrote: 


In 40+ years of cycling, I never thought I'd buy something sight unseen without 
even a test ride. And I never thought I'd buy a mixte. 

But I've never read a word of complaint or buyer's remorse about Rivs. The love 
owners seem to have for these bikes is unusual, so I decided it was worth 
parting with nearly $3K of my hard-earned dollars to get the Chev. I could have 
thoroughly pimped out a Clementine for much less, but I totally fell for the 
lugs, the lines, and the whole package. 


I'm in my early 50's, live in Virginia, and ride for the pure joy of it on 
paved paths and gravel trails. I'm all for beusage, but want to keep the 
occasional mud and slime off the important parts. Any tips for how best to keep 
it un-crapified? 

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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

[Ron Mc]

sounds like you bought a custom-for-you bike right off the shelf

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 9:53:09 PM UTC-5, Alohashirt wrote:
>
> In 40+ years of cycling, I never thought I'd buy something sight unseen 
> without even a test ride. And I never thought I'd buy a mixte. 
>
> But I've never read a word of complaint or buyer's remorse about Rivs. The 
> love owners seem to have for these bikes is unusual, so I decided it was 
> worth parting with nearly $3K of my hard-earned dollars to get the Chev. I 
> could have thoroughly pimped out a Clementine for much less, but I totally 
> fell for the lugs, the lines, and the whole package.
>
> I'm in my early 50's, live in Virginia, and ride for the pure joy of it on 
> paved paths and gravel trails. I'm all for beusage, but want to keep the 
> occasional mud and slime off the important parts. Any tips for how best to 
> keep it un-crapified?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

[Evan E.]

Congratulations and welcome! When you take your first Chev ride, please 
post a picture here. 

Evan
SF, CA


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