[RBW] Antelope Hills/Black Mountain Monster Cross

2018-06-08 Thread Tim O. (Portland, OR)
Oops! Meant to post this to ibob. It's mostly the same folks, right?

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[RBW] Antelope Hills/Black Mountain Monster Cross

2018-06-08 Thread Tim O. (Portland, OR)
Howdy-

Got the Compass Antelope Hills today and tried them on the Black Mountain 
Cycles Monstercross. Here are set clearance pictures:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/F6d8HBxYMU3lRfNw1

I'm the pictures they are mounted on velocity dyads(18.6mm interal width) with 
tubes at 55 psi. I don't have calipers, but I'd guess they're around 51-52ish 
right now.

Not much room, so I'll probably end up using these ony Riv proto-Appaloosa.

Let me know if you have any questions!

Tim O.
Portland, OR

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[RBW] Re: quality of bike photos on Riv website

2018-06-08 Thread CMR
I think these kinds of things should be mentioned directly to Rivendell, 
you should contact Dave, his contact info is on the staff page.

https://www.rivbike.com/pages/staff-email-directory

I agree, the photos are usually gorgeous, I'd love the option to easily 
open an HD version.

Chris
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: Keto Rivendell Commutes and 2 questions

2018-06-08 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Is there alot of profanity?
Saw some on the cover. Don’t want to pay for that.

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[RBW] Re: Keto Rivendell Commutes and 2 questions

2018-06-08 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Yeah, I noticed that, too. Not hungry at all really. I guess the fat really 
fills you up!

Legs were dead today. It was an 11 mile slog home. But still fun. Slow going. 
Super low cadences. Lotsa coasting at every chance. Legs shot. Thighs Burned at 
any hard efforts. Wierd. Never like this in regular diet. I guess the body 
hasn’t adjusted yet. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: U locks and Pitlocks

2018-06-08 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Thanks for all the input, all. I settled on an Abus Granit 640 (or something) 
from Amazon. For wheels I chose the Abus Nut fix, because several of you 
disliked the Pittlocks but liked the Abus. Abus' solution for saddle and seat 
post wouldn't work.  Drw was so excited about his Hexlox for the saddle and 
seat post that I braved ordering overseas. I was hoping to use all one system, 
but I didn't have the heart to call back the local bike shop and cancel the 
Abus order for the quick release wheels. Now a few hundred dollars poorer, I 
hope I chose well. The mechanical part of biking is not my jam. I just RIDE the 
bike. And deck it out in Christmas lights. Terrible, I know.

You were all a huge help - thank you, thank you, thank you!

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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day! Almost a trade of a Black Mountain Road for a LEO

2018-06-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Hey Bill, is Inspiration Point that spot with the circular parking area at 
Tilden Park?

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Hunqapillar Demos for sale under web specials.

2018-06-08 Thread Joe Bernard
The copy doesn't say "last of MUSA Hunqs", just a chance to get one right away. 
It's kinda typo-ed so easy to misinterpret. I'm sure there will be a MIT Hunq 
eventually, but nothing has been announced. 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Hunqapillar Demos for sale under web specials.

2018-06-08 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I didn't even notice that one of them had the Wavie bar.  Since the 
Bullmoose seems to have disappeared, the Wavie is the only Riv handlebar 
that might interest me.   



On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 8:17:34 PM UTC-5, Drw wrote:
>
> I’m liking that wavy bar!

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Hunqapillar Demos for sale under web specials.

2018-06-08 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I don't recall any mention of MIT Hunqapillars.  Did I miss that?



On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 8:07:04 PM UTC-5, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> In one of the actual bike descriptions they alluded to it being a chance 
> to grab one of the last from the MUSA lot.  I assume they will be better 
> served with demo MIT Hunqs moving forward.  Their brainpower and bike/frame 
> knowledge will determine whether someone will be better off(doubtful based 
> on Grant’s designs and current beliefs) with an old geometries of a MUSA 
> upcharged wait for a semi-custom build. 
>
> If I was in a standard frame size I would definitely convert to the MIT 
> bikes but at 99.5 PBH eternally grateful for my XXL Hunq(better known as a 
> 64cm Bombadil), my Toyo built 68cm Atlantis, a 68cm Custom, and a Jumbo Mt 
> Mixte.  The Atlantis and Custom were bought used (frames only). The 
> Bombadil and Mixte frames new from Riv.  Also bought full bike Clemtentine 
> for my 6’0” daughter, 58cm Betty frame for wife from Riv also. 
>
> Sincerely, 
> Ryan Hankinson 
> West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: quality of bike photos on Riv website

2018-06-08 Thread sameness
They used to have a lightbox plug-in (click on a thumbnail and a bigger 
images pop up within the same browser window) on one of the previous 
iterations of the site.

Looks like they traded that functionality for the ability to zoom in on the 
details of the pic at 100% of the image size.

This wouldn't be possible otherwise unless the image opened up full-size in 
the same or another browser window, which of course gets the visitor off 
the "Buy Now" page.

Using e-commerce sites like Shopify always involves a lot of compromise 
when you are dealing with all options across all devices.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA


On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 2:38:33 PM UTC-7, eddietheflay wrote:
>
> maybe it's just me or my computer, but it seems to me the photos or the 
> approach to photos on the website leave something to be desired.
>
> I know the bikes are gorgeous since I have owned a bunch. But the large 
> thumbnails with the old world magnifier don't do them justice.
>
> In this day and age should it not be really easy to post hires, large 
> photos of your stuff in order to better advertise it and sell it.
>
> Not a gripe but more curious and more a suggestion.
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Hunqapillar Demos for sale under web specials.

2018-06-08 Thread tc
58/62 Hunq and Atlantis owners, what would you do with a Hunq that you 
couldn't do with an Atlantis?

Tom

On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 6:32:08 PM UTC-4, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> Rivendell has four Hunqapillar demo's on the specials page, including the 
> 53cm 650B demo and that sweet, 54cm 1x11 Hunqapillar.  If I had the funds, 
> that 54 would be sold.   
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Hunqapillar Demos for sale under web specials.

2018-06-08 Thread Drw
I’m liking that wavy bar!

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Hunqapillar Demos for sale under web specials.

2018-06-08 Thread Abcyclehank
In one of the actual bike descriptions they alluded to it being a chance to 
grab one of the last from the MUSA lot.  I assume they will be better served 
with demo MIT Hunqs moving forward.  Their brainpower and bike/frame knowledge 
will determine whether someone will be better off(doubtful based on Grant’s 
designs and current beliefs) with an old geometries of a MUSA upcharged wait 
for a semi-custom build.

If I was in a standard frame size I would definitely convert to the MIT bikes 
but at 99.5 PBH eternally grateful for my XXL Hunq(better known as a 64cm 
Bombadil), my Toyo built 68cm Atlantis, a 68cm Custom, and a Jumbo Mt Mixte.  
The Atlantis and Custom were bought used (frames only). The Bombadil and Mixte 
frames new from Riv.  Also bought full bike Clemtentine for my 6’0” daughter, 
58cm Betty frame for wife from Riv also.

Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] Re: U locks and Pitlocks

2018-06-08 Thread Drw
Hexlox.com

Here is the seatpost set
https://hexlox.com/collections/ready-bike-security-sets/products/saddle-lock-security-set-protects-saddle-seat-post

they’re European, but ship to the states just fine. Customer service is really 
good too. I ended up getting like 10 of them and just swap them around to 
various parts on various bikes depending on what I’m riding and what I want 
protected. Securing wheels with them is no better than pitlocks though, since 
you have to use proprietary skewers. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: U locks and Pitlocks

2018-06-08 Thread Leah Peterson
Drw, I’d love to order them if I could find anywhere that sold them. Not 
Amazon, and when I put in my location there was no seller/dealer. Where did you 
find yours? Are you in the US? They sound perfect!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 8, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Drw  wrote:
> 
> I’m telling you. For the whole seat area, hexlox. So easy. You use the 
> existing bolts and just pop a little button in the bolt head. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: U locks and Pitlocks

2018-06-08 Thread Drw
I’m telling you. For the whole seat area, hexlox. So easy. You use the existing 
bolts and just pop a little button in the bolt head. 

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[RBW] Re: Keto Rivendell Commutes and 2 questions

2018-06-08 Thread David B
If you don’t have a copy of EBDJ, it’s worth getting. Straightforward info. 
I’ve been following Keto for a few weeks and feel a lot more energy when I’m 
riding and have noticed that I really don’t get hungry during the day. 

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[RBW] Re: U locks and Pitlocks

2018-06-08 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
I found a dealer that can order Abus Nut Fix for the quick release skewers, but 
I’m not finding anything for the seat post from Abus. Abus seems to want 
something with a seat clamp, which these bikes don’t have. Am I wrong? Do I 
need to look elsewhere?

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Riv Hunqapillar Demos for sale under web specials.

2018-06-08 Thread Bill Lindsay
Maybe that means they are clearing the deck for something new.

On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 3:32:08 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> Rivendell has four Hunqapillar demo's on the specials page, including the 
> 53cm 650B demo and that sweet, 54cm 1x11 Hunqapillar.  If I had the funds, 
> that 54 would be sold.   
>

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[RBW] PSA: Riv Hunqapillar Demos for sale under web specials.

2018-06-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Here tis.
 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles

I'd love to snap up that 53. It's too tall for me as a trail bike, but hoo boy 
would it make a fabulous town cruiser/shopper. The wallet says no!  

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[RBW] Re: Keto Rivendell Commutes and 2 questions

2018-06-08 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Thanks, Phil! 

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[RBW] quality of bike photos on Riv website

2018-06-08 Thread Clayton.sf
I believe most of them are shot with film. Could be wrong though.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] PSA: Riv Hunqapillar Demos for sale under web specials.

2018-06-08 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Rivendell has four Hunqapillar demo's on the specials page, including the 
53cm 650B demo and that sweet, 54cm 1x11 Hunqapillar.  If I had the funds, 
that 54 would be sold.   

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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day! Almost a trade of a Black Mountain Road for a LEO

2018-06-08 Thread Austin B.
Thanks for the reply, Bill. I appreciate the time you took and, despite 
your claims to not having the vocabulary to reply, your comments were much 
more helpful than you might think. I now have a clear preference on which 
frame to choose.

Thanks again!
Austin

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[RBW] Re: The Most Disappointing Bike: A Satire

2018-06-08 Thread islaysteve
Great story, Leah.  I always enjoy reading your posts!  
Cheers, Steve


On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:04:44 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I just got off the phone with my sister. She accompanied a married couple 
> who are dear friends from out east to Duluth, MN where they hit the bike 
> trails and saw all the sights. Heather knows very little about Rivendell, 
> but is tolerant of my enthusiasm for all things Grant and Co. When she told 
> me this story we laughed until our sides hurt and I knew I had to retell it 
> to a sympathetic audience. Now, here is the DISCLAIMER: Some of you like 
> racy, skinny, lightweight bikes. Some of you appreciate the roadie life. 
> Some of you are partial to drop bars and clipless pedals. And that’s 
> lovely, and we are among friends here, but I’m about to poke fun of all 
> those things. I don’t mean to offend, but I do so love to laugh, so I hope 
> you will forgive me for being offensive this one time, and just giggle with 
> me for a bit. If you are feeling gracious, and you like a little satire in 
> your life, please do read on! If not, stop HERE... 
>
> It was the first morning, and the plan was to hit the bike trails early 
> and see some historic sights in the city. Heather dressed in a breezy, 
> colorful, summery outfit, and bounded downstairs to the lobby. Christine 
> and Dan arrived, looked at Heather, disbelieving and said, “Is that what 
> you’re wearing?!” Heather looked back at them, eyes roving over their 
> unusual outfits. They were covered in colorful, skin-tight lycra. They 
> donned shorts that were oddly padded and somewhat profane, as their 
> crotches were accentuated and bulging. Their shoes were weird, and made 
> sharp clicks on the tile with every step. “Is that what YOU’RE wearing?!” 
> Heather gasped. 
>
> Ah, but they are good friends, so everyone shrugged and headed out the 
> door. They made their way to their bikes, where they were about to have 
> their next mutual shock. Heather has a lovely red Biria, bedecked with 
> racks and a basket and capped with a nice, wide saddle. Hers are romantic, 
> swept-back handlebars, and her tires are smartly covered with fenders. She 
> has chosen this bike because she has commuted downtown for years in several 
> cities and these attributes of the bike are the ones that make sense to 
> her. She has never read Grant’s book. She doesn’t care about online forums 
> or bike literature. She arrived at these conclusions because she knows that 
> they work. Thus, when she looked over at her friends’ carbon racing 
> machines, she couldn’t help but gawk. Dan’s bike is a 20 year old carbon 
> machine, and Christine’s carbon bike was purchased in October. No fenders. 
> No racks (Dan had a giant backpack he was carrying like a pack mule, and 
> the day was a sweltering one.). Christine and Dan mounted their bikes and 
> suddenly their feet were glued to their pedals. What fresh horror was this? 
> My sister kept staring at this couple struggling to release their feet from 
> these traps at every intersection and stop. Christine was less skilled at 
> this, and at one of their stops she tipped over, padded shorts and all. 
> “Why do you use those?” Heather asked incredulously, pointing to the 
> pedals. “Oh, these REALLY help with efficiency,” explained Dan, as 
> Christine scraped herself off the pavement. 
>
> They reached their first destination. There was a lovely waterfall to 
> appreciate, so they dismounted and made their way to it. Clickety-clack, 
> clickety-clack went the Efficiency Shoes on the boardwalk. The rest of the 
> afternoon was much like that, and 25 miles later, so ended the first day. 
>
> The next morning found the couple dithering about what to wear. They were 
> going out for a nice lunch and to visit a local museum, and the couple was 
> in a quandary about their clothes. They were biking so they needed “bike 
> clothes.” But they were also planning to do fun, touristy things, so they 
> needed “normal clothes.”  They didn’t want to wear the clickety-clacks, but 
> their pedals called for it.  “I don’t know if I can ride my bike without my 
> padded shorts,” said Christine. They compromised. They put on normal 
> clothing with their clickety-clacks. Then they stuffed extra shoes into 
> Dan’s large backpack. They pedaled off, crotches on fire, Dan sweating 
> under the weight strapped to his back. 
>
> “Why do you have that bike seat if it hurts to ride it?” asked Heather, 
> genuinely curious. 
>
> “Oh, well, I probably save 5 grams using this one!” crowed Dan, “And you 
> may not think that sounds like much, but a few grams here and a few grams 
> there really adds up!” 
>
> They continued on, where their way was impeded by several puddles. Heather 
> lifted her legs up and sailed gleefully through the water, outfit intact 
> and free of mud. Oddly, she was alone. She looked back and saw her friends, 
> who had come almost to a halt, negotiating their 

[RBW] quality of bike photos on Riv website

2018-06-08 Thread Joe Bernard
I agree, the zoom-in-ability of the photos is quite lacking. 

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[RBW] quality of bike photos on Riv website

2018-06-08 Thread eddietheflay
maybe it's just me or my computer, but it seems to me the photos or the 
approach to photos on the website leave something to be desired.

I know the bikes are gorgeous since I have owned a bunch. But the large 
thumbnails with the old world magnifier don't do them justice.

In this day and age should it not be really easy to post hires, large 
photos of your stuff in order to better advertise it and sell it.

Not a gripe but more curious and more a suggestion.

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[RBW] Any must see bike shops in Berlin?

2018-06-08 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado
John
There is a company in Germany that makes Pedersen Bikes. Not sure if its close 
to or in Berlin.
Jon

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[RBW] Re: Keto Rivendell Commutes and 2 questions

2018-06-08 Thread phil k
Sorry, I'm not on a keto diet, so I don't have an answer to your second 
question.

On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 4:20:02 PM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>
> It would be ketones.
>
> The goal of keto diet is for your body to deplete all glucose stores in 
> your body for ketogenesis. Your body will naturally look for an alternative 
> energy source, proteins being the next easiest source of energy. However, 
> your body doesn't want that to happen (as it recognizes it to mean you are 
> in danger of starvation), and it will convert body fat and fatty acids from 
> consumed fats into ketones. This is because fat cannot fuel the most 
> important cells in your body - your brain cells.
>
> On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 3:46:09 PM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>>
>> Doing keto diet now for almost two weeks (come Tuesday).
>>
>> Been commuting and feel good on rides but I notice that my legs hurt/burn 
>> for the first mile or so on rides, which never happened when I ate regular, 
>> before the keto diet.
>>
>> Feels like the thighs haven't recharged. Though even when they recharged 
>> on former diet they never hurt (hurts like weight lifting burn now).
>>
>> I was wondering maybe without the sugar/carb/glycos coming in that the 
>> body hasn't figured out how to recharge after my riding without them.
>>
>> So I was wondering:
>>
>> 1. What does the body recharge with if no glyco stores are available?
>>
>> 2. Has anyone who  keto dieted found any effects on their riding?
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Keto Rivendell Commutes and 2 questions

2018-06-08 Thread phil k
It would be ketones.

The goal of keto diet is for your body to deplete all glucose stores in 
your body for ketogenesis. Your body will naturally look for an alternative 
energy source, proteins being the next easiest source of energy. However, 
your body doesn't want that to happen (as it recognizes it to mean you are 
in danger of starvation), and it will convert body fat and fatty acids from 
consumed fats into ketones. This is because fat cannot fuel the most 
important cells in your body - your brain cells.

On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 3:46:09 PM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Doing keto diet now for almost two weeks (come Tuesday).
>
> Been commuting and feel good on rides but I notice that my legs hurt/burn 
> for the first mile or so on rides, which never happened when I ate regular, 
> before the keto diet.
>
> Feels like the thighs haven't recharged. Though even when they recharged 
> on former diet they never hurt (hurts like weight lifting burn now).
>
> I was wondering maybe without the sugar/carb/glycos coming in that the 
> body hasn't figured out how to recharge after my riding without them.
>
> So I was wondering:
>
> 1. What does the body recharge with if no glyco stores are available?
>
> 2. Has anyone who  keto dieted found any effects on their riding?
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: The Most Disappointing Bike: A Satire

2018-06-08 Thread Max S
Fun story. Thanks for sharing. 

One could perhaps draw a parallel between the choice in type of bike and 
type of car. Few of us drive a Boxster or a 911 on a daily basis or to the 
grocery store, and few of us must be in a 4x4 with a winch for the commute. 
So, the family sedan or wagon (or nowadays, the CUV) is perhaps the 
equivalent of a reasonably high quality, upright, plain-clothes Riv. 
Perhaps our friends closer to the extreme end of the bike spectrum could 
appreciate that analogy? 

- Max "spending more and more time in the middle wavelengths" in A2 


On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:04:44 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I just got off the phone with my sister. She accompanied a married couple 
> who are dear friends from out east to Duluth, MN where they hit the bike 
> trails and saw all the sights. Heather knows very little about Rivendell, 
> but is tolerant of my enthusiasm for all things Grant and Co. When she told 
> me this story we laughed until our sides hurt and I knew I had to retell it 
> to a sympathetic audience. Now, here is the DISCLAIMER: Some of you like 
> racy, skinny, lightweight bikes. Some of you appreciate the roadie life. 
> Some of you are partial to drop bars and clipless pedals. And that’s 
> lovely, and we are among friends here, but I’m about to poke fun of all 
> those things. I don’t mean to offend, but I do so love to laugh, so I hope 
> you will forgive me for being offensive this one time, and just giggle with 
> me for a bit. If you are feeling gracious, and you like a little satire in 
> your life, please do read on! If not, stop HERE... 
>
> It was the first morning, and the plan was to hit the bike trails early 
> and see some historic sights in the city. Heather dressed in a breezy, 
> colorful, summery outfit, and bounded downstairs to the lobby. Christine 
> and Dan arrived, looked at Heather, disbelieving and said, “Is that what 
> you’re wearing?!” Heather looked back at them, eyes roving over their 
> unusual outfits. They were covered in colorful, skin-tight lycra. They 
> donned shorts that were oddly padded and somewhat profane, as their 
> crotches were accentuated and bulging. Their shoes were weird, and made 
> sharp clicks on the tile with every step. “Is that what YOU’RE wearing?!” 
> Heather gasped. 
>
> Ah, but they are good friends, so everyone shrugged and headed out the 
> door. They made their way to their bikes, where they were about to have 
> their next mutual shock. Heather has a lovely red Biria, bedecked with 
> racks and a basket and capped with a nice, wide saddle. Hers are romantic, 
> swept-back handlebars, and her tires are smartly covered with fenders. She 
> has chosen this bike because she has commuted downtown for years in several 
> cities and these attributes of the bike are the ones that make sense to 
> her. She has never read Grant’s book. She doesn’t care about online forums 
> or bike literature. She arrived at these conclusions because she knows that 
> they work. Thus, when she looked over at her friends’ carbon racing 
> machines, she couldn’t help but gawk. Dan’s bike is a 20 year old carbon 
> machine, and Christine’s carbon bike was purchased in October. No fenders. 
> No racks (Dan had a giant backpack he was carrying like a pack mule, and 
> the day was a sweltering one.). Christine and Dan mounted their bikes and 
> suddenly their feet were glued to their pedals. What fresh horror was this? 
> My sister kept staring at this couple struggling to release their feet from 
> these traps at every intersection and stop. Christine was less skilled at 
> this, and at one of their stops she tipped over, padded shorts and all. 
> “Why do you use those?” Heather asked incredulously, pointing to the 
> pedals. “Oh, these REALLY help with efficiency,” explained Dan, as 
> Christine scraped herself off the pavement. 
>
> They reached their first destination. There was a lovely waterfall to 
> appreciate, so they dismounted and made their way to it. Clickety-clack, 
> clickety-clack went the Efficiency Shoes on the boardwalk. The rest of the 
> afternoon was much like that, and 25 miles later, so ended the first day. 
>
> The next morning found the couple dithering about what to wear. They were 
> going out for a nice lunch and to visit a local museum, and the couple was 
> in a quandary about their clothes. They were biking so they needed “bike 
> clothes.” But they were also planning to do fun, touristy things, so they 
> needed “normal clothes.”  They didn’t want to wear the clickety-clacks, but 
> their pedals called for it.  “I don’t know if I can ride my bike without my 
> padded shorts,” said Christine. They compromised. They put on normal 
> clothing with their clickety-clacks. Then they stuffed extra shoes into 
> Dan’s large backpack. They pedaled off, crotches on fire, Dan sweating 
> under the weight strapped to his back. 
>
> “Why do you have that bike seat if it hurts to ride it?” asked 

[RBW] Keto Rivendell Commutes and 2 questions

2018-06-08 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Doing keto diet now for almost two weeks (come Tuesday).

Been commuting and feel good on rides but I notice that my legs hurt/burn 
for the first mile or so on rides, which never happened when I ate regular, 
before the keto diet.

Feels like the thighs haven't recharged. Though even when they recharged on 
former diet they never hurt (hurts like weight lifting burn now).

I was wondering maybe without the sugar/carb/glycos coming in that the body 
hasn't figured out how to recharge after my riding without them.

So I was wondering:

1. What does the body recharge with if no glyco stores are available?

2. Has anyone who  keto dieted found any effects on their riding?



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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day! Almost a trade of a Black Mountain Road for a LEO

2018-06-08 Thread Bill Lindsay
Austin asked for more nuanced comparisons than I have the vernacular to 
describe. So my short answer is that I have not found any discernible 
differences in 'Sportiness'.  

With stouter tubing, is the Roadini less flexible than the BMC?  I don't 
know that the Leo has stouter tubing.  If it does, I do not discern it to 
be less flexible
Does either the BMC or Roadini spin up/accelerate faster (neither are 
racing bikes, nor do I intend to race).  Not that I can say.  They both go 
faster the harder I pedal.  I don't run a power meter, so I don't know if 
one accelerates more quickly per unit power input
Which one has quicker steering?  Neither that I can discern.  They both go 
where my hips tell them to go
All things being equal, is one more "fun" to ride (might be hard given they 
are set up differently) Both are fun

I'm sorry that I don't have the sensibilities or the words to be of more 
help to you.  I do builds with a purpose.  If the build serves the purpose, 
I keep it.  If the build doesn't serve the purpose, I move along.  I think 
the Black Mountain and the Leo are both great foundations for a pretty 
broad array of builds.  I think you should buy one of each, and set them up 
in complementary ways.  I have one of each, and I'm happy about that.  The 
bikes in my stable enable a broad array of ride-types.  I don't sweat the 
nuances of "sportiness" that I don't care about.  I dwell on enjoying the 
rides.  This morning's ride was a 10 mile round trip into Berkeley to buy 
some cheese and scones at Cheese Board and a pound of coffee at Vine Street 
Peet's.  The nuance I enjoyed the most was the accordion player outside of 
Cheese Board on a day so beautiful that it almost brought a tear to my 
eye.  Especially in that neighborhood, near Chez Panisse, on a day where 
Anthony Bourdain chose to take his own life, I'm reminded to fret less on 
the things that I can allow myself to not fret about.  Cycling is my 
meditation, builds are a form of my self-expression.  "Planing", 
"Sportiness" and similar nuances just aren't that important to me.  

I will gladly put money in Mike Varley's register in the future, and I will 
gladly put money in Rivendell's register in the future.  Choose one and 
enjoy it!

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 11:11:41 AM UTC-7, Austin B. wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> I read your above thread and your initial ride report. I saw that you 
> found the Roadini to be fast and stable. I am curious how it compares to 
> your BMC in more specific ways which I attribute to "Sportiness" if you 
> have found any to be discernible. 
>
> With stouter tubing, is the Roadini less flexible than the BMC?
> Does either the BMC or Roadini spin up/accelerate faster (neither are 
> racing bikes, nor do I intend to race)
> Which one has quicker steering?
> All things being equal, is one more "fun" to ride (might be hard given 
> they are set up differently)
>
> I ask because I ride a large frame, I'm mid-40's and want a tall stack, 
> and I want a sporty, lively ride. I'm considering a Road+ vs a Roadini. 
> Currently, I ride a Soma ES but the stack isn't quite high enough. And I 
> have a strong desire for an orange bike--the orange Roadini is really 
> appealing.
>
>
> Thanks!
> Austin B.
> Sykesville, MD
>

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Re: [RBW] The Most Disappointing Bike: A Satire

2018-06-08 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Great story Leah,

One thing you might tell your friend is that there is a best bike for the
task at hand.  Don't ride a race bike unless you are racing or need to race
at your peak to keep up with the people you want to ride with.  Get another
bike that is comfortable, suitable to carry things on a rack and fendered
with a kickstand(!) for those other rides when racing is not needed.

I am more roadie than casual, and wear my clickety-clacks (road cleats on
one bike, recessed MTB cleats on the others) because I believe that they
will help me achieve what I want on the bike, but I am fortunate enough to
have the finances and space for multiple bikes.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] The Most Disappointing Bike: A Satire

2018-06-08 Thread Patrick Moore
"How!" in the old, stereotyped Indian greeting.

Patrick Moore, who is old enough to remember watching b cowboy and Indian
movies at friends' houses (and who is trying to decide right at this moment
between going for a ride on 559 X 28 mm tires or 700C X 61 mm tires ...)

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> Why that autocorrected to “How Patrick” I don’t know, it was supposed to
> be “Hi Patrick!” 
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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day! Almost a trade of a Black Mountain Road for a LEO

2018-06-08 Thread Austin B.
Hi Bill,

I read your above thread and your initial ride report. I saw that you found 
the Roadini to be fast and stable. I am curious how it compares to your BMC 
in more specific ways which I attribute to "Sportiness" if you have found 
any to be discernible. 

With stouter tubing, is the Roadini less flexible than the BMC?
Does either the BMC or Roadini spin up/accelerate faster (neither are 
racing bikes, nor do I intend to race)
Which one has quicker steering?
All things being equal, is one more "fun" to ride (might be hard given they 
are set up differently)

I ask because I ride a large frame, I'm mid-40's and want a tall stack, and 
I want a sporty, lively ride. I'm considering a Road+ vs a Roadini. 
Currently, I ride a Soma ES but the stack isn't quite high enough. And I 
have a strong desire for an orange bike--the orange Roadini is really 
appealing.


Thanks!
Austin B.
Sykesville, MD

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Re: [RBW] The Most Disappointing Bike: A Satire

2018-06-08 Thread Surlyprof
It may not have been a bike theft but rather an intervention.  Fun story and I 
hope that your friend seeks your advice when spending her insurance money.  
That may make for a happy ending after all.

John

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Re: [RBW] The Most Disappointing Bike: A Satire

2018-06-08 Thread phil k
Yes, there is this prescribed notion you have to wear one or the other. I 
wear from road riding clothes where it makes sense to me (lighter helmet, 
sunglasses, gloves, bright colored windbreakers/rain jacket), and wear 
"comfy" clothes where it makes sense (wool tee shirts, wool pants, 
waterproof hiking shoes, tennis shoes, etc).

I think it's because most of my riding is commuting and recreational, so I 
make a lot of stops, but I also ride for long periods and for long 
distances each outing.

On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 1:18:44 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> How Patrick, 
>
> Well, I *did *warn you to use discretion in reading this account. And 
> while I did poke fun, the point wasn’t to laugh about people riding what 
> they want. It is to illustrate (using humor) how the culture has taken the 
> simplicity of a bike ride and sucked every drop of enjoyment out of it. The 
> special shoes and special clothes and special bike all worked together to 
> make the couple’s experience rather miserable. They will never admit this. 
> Burdened time and time again by their racing-inspired bikes and kit, they, 
> in saving their grams, knew best. And when Christine orders her new bike, 
> it will be another racing bike, because the industry told her it’s the best 
> and she will believe that. Even when her “undercarriage” is flaming from 
> spending miles in her skimpy saddle. Even when she’s tipped over on the 
> street, trapped in her pedals. Even when she doesn’t feel she can go to the 
> museum without a costume change. Even when Dan (an ortho doc) must be 
> hunched over portaging his backpack because a rack would add precious grams 
> to his race bike, they will still believe. 
>
> That is why this is so interesting and even amusing. Even when presented 
> with stark evidence that racing gear is not meant for the majority of 
> riders, people will still insist it’s the standard. This vignette was just 
> a plucky little reference to that. 
>
> But yes, I hear you. I’m a believer in freedom and riding what you want. I 
> just wish people would ignore racing’s influence and ride what MAKES SENSE. 
> Maybe we’d have more people on bikes if that were the case. What a win that 
> would be!
>
> Enjoy your bike and keep on riding! You are an example to us!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 7, 2018, at 8:42 PM, Patrick Moore > 
> wrote:
>
> A good story. But every story needs a counter story. Mine is attached as a 
> jpeg.
>
> I've owned 3 Riv Road customs and 5 Rivendells -- Sam and Ram as well as 
> the customs. I have to say that the one pictured (1999) is the most 
> comfortable bike I've owned in a long life of buying and flipping bikes; if 
> someone held a gun to my head and said: "Choose One!", I'd have to choose 
> this one.
>
> Note that I ride it in Rapha touring shorts over boxers, when I'm not 
> riding it in cut off khakis over boxers; no gloves or helment, and in SPDs 
> (7410s). I have an almost-identical one built up with dyno lights, fenders 
> (high desert!), and f and r racks for groceries and errands.
>
> More seriously, I think everyone should ride what he or she likes to ride. 
> I do know that we are all influenced in our views of "normal" by what we 
> grew up with; that itself is normal. I got "serious" about cycling about 
> 1969, age 14 -- perhaps earlier, because I was "hot rodding" my bikes at 12 
> and 13 -- and built my first bike from scratch in 1970 (Indian roadster 
> frame bought at a Nairobi bike shop; donated 700C Czecho steel flip flop 
> rear, 24" front stolen from my brother's kiddie bike -- no brake fit. I 
> recall, on home leaves, annoying the owners of Genevan and Parisian news 
> kiosks by my halting French attempts to identify which cycling sportif mag 
> I wanted from the vast displays. I also recall scouring the slim selection 
> of cycling books in the Nairobi public library.
>
> Let's not be too quick to laugh at others; in my own case, I know I have 
> plenty to laugh at in myself.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 8:04 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> I just got off the phone with my sister. She accompanied a married couple 
>> who are dear friends from out east to Duluth, MN where they hit the bike 
>> trails and saw all the sights. Heather knows very little about Rivendell, 
>> but is tolerant of my enthusiasm for all things Grant and Co. When she told 
>> me this story we laughed until our sides hurt and I knew I had to retell it 
>> to a sympathetic audience. Now, here is the DISCLAIMER: Some of you like 
>> racy, skinny, lightweight bikes. Some of you appreciate the roadie life. 
>> Some of you are partial to drop bars and clipless pedals. And that’s 
>> lovely, and we are among friends here, but I’m about to poke fun of all 
>> those things. I don’t mean to offend, but I do so love to laugh, so I hope 
>> you will forgive me for being offensive this one time, and just giggle with 
>> me for a bit. If you are 

[RBW] Seattle CL facilitate purchase?

2018-06-08 Thread velomann
Long shot but I'm in Portland and looking for someone in Seattle willing to 
pick up a couple smallish items from a Craigslist seller. I'd Paypal you 
and then we'd work out how to transfer. Ideal would be someone coming to 
Portland for the Rivelo 3rd anniversary shindig next week - Grant and Mark 
will be there, we'll go for a ride, barbeque, music... But shipping would 
work fine too. Big ask, but PM me if you can help.

Mike

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[RBW] Re: The Most Disappointing Bike: A Satire

2018-06-08 Thread Doug H.
Leah,

What a fun, well-told story. Back in my Lycra days I always felt odd 
walking into a coffee shop or convenience store with the tight form-fitting 
kit and tapping with each step. The Just Ride philosophy is really 
liberating and makes riding fun again.

Doug

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:04:44 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I just got off the phone with my sister. She accompanied a married couple 
> who are dear friends from out east to Duluth, MN where they hit the bike 
> trails and saw all the sights. Heather knows very little about Rivendell, 
> but is tolerant of my enthusiasm for all things Grant and Co. When she told 
> me this story we laughed until our sides hurt and I knew I had to retell it 
> to a sympathetic audience. Now, here is the DISCLAIMER: Some of you like 
> racy, skinny, lightweight bikes. Some of you appreciate the roadie life. 
> Some of you are partial to drop bars and clipless pedals. And that’s 
> lovely, and we are among friends here, but I’m about to poke fun of all 
> those things. I don’t mean to offend, but I do so love to laugh, so I hope 
> you will forgive me for being offensive this one time, and just giggle with 
> me for a bit. If you are feeling gracious, and you like a little satire in 
> your life, please do read on! If not, stop HERE... 
>
> It was the first morning, and the plan was to hit the bike trails early 
> and see some historic sights in the city. Heather dressed in a breezy, 
> colorful, summery outfit, and bounded downstairs to the lobby. Christine 
> and Dan arrived, looked at Heather, disbelieving and said, “Is that what 
> you’re wearing?!” Heather looked back at them, eyes roving over their 
> unusual outfits. They were covered in colorful, skin-tight lycra. They 
> donned shorts that were oddly padded and somewhat profane, as their 
> crotches were accentuated and bulging. Their shoes were weird, and made 
> sharp clicks on the tile with every step. “Is that what YOU’RE wearing?!” 
> Heather gasped. 
>
> Ah, but they are good friends, so everyone shrugged and headed out the 
> door. They made their way to their bikes, where they were about to have 
> their next mutual shock. Heather has a lovely red Biria, bedecked with 
> racks and a basket and capped with a nice, wide saddle. Hers are romantic, 
> swept-back handlebars, and her tires are smartly covered with fenders. She 
> has chosen this bike because she has commuted downtown for years in several 
> cities and these attributes of the bike are the ones that make sense to 
> her. She has never read Grant’s book. She doesn’t care about online forums 
> or bike literature. She arrived at these conclusions because she knows that 
> they work. Thus, when she looked over at her friends’ carbon racing 
> machines, she couldn’t help but gawk. Dan’s bike is a 20 year old carbon 
> machine, and Christine’s carbon bike was purchased in October. No fenders. 
> No racks (Dan had a giant backpack he was carrying like a pack mule, and 
> the day was a sweltering one.). Christine and Dan mounted their bikes and 
> suddenly their feet were glued to their pedals. What fresh horror was this? 
> My sister kept staring at this couple struggling to release their feet from 
> these traps at every intersection and stop. Christine was less skilled at 
> this, and at one of their stops she tipped over, padded shorts and all. 
> “Why do you use those?” Heather asked incredulously, pointing to the 
> pedals. “Oh, these REALLY help with efficiency,” explained Dan, as 
> Christine scraped herself off the pavement. 
>
> They reached their first destination. There was a lovely waterfall to 
> appreciate, so they dismounted and made their way to it. Clickety-clack, 
> clickety-clack went the Efficiency Shoes on the boardwalk. The rest of the 
> afternoon was much like that, and 25 miles later, so ended the first day. 
>
> The next morning found the couple dithering about what to wear. They were 
> going out for a nice lunch and to visit a local museum, and the couple was 
> in a quandary about their clothes. They were biking so they needed “bike 
> clothes.” But they were also planning to do fun, touristy things, so they 
> needed “normal clothes.”  They didn’t want to wear the clickety-clacks, but 
> their pedals called for it.  “I don’t know if I can ride my bike without my 
> padded shorts,” said Christine. They compromised. They put on normal 
> clothing with their clickety-clacks. Then they stuffed extra shoes into 
> Dan’s large backpack. They pedaled off, crotches on fire, Dan sweating 
> under the weight strapped to his back. 
>
> “Why do you have that bike seat if it hurts to ride it?” asked Heather, 
> genuinely curious. 
>
> “Oh, well, I probably save 5 grams using this one!” crowed Dan, “And you 
> may not think that sounds like much, but a few grams here and a few grams 
> there really adds up!” 
>
> They continued on, where their way was impeded by several puddles. Heather 
> lifted her 

[RBW] Re: The Most Disappointing Bike: A Satire

2018-06-08 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Many thanks, Leah. I enjoy these stories so very much.

Shoji
Arlington MA

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:04:44 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I just got off the phone with my sister. She accompanied a married couple 
> who are dear friends from out east to Duluth, MN where they hit the bike 
> trails and saw all the sights. Heather knows very little about Rivendell, 
> but is tolerant of my enthusiasm for all things Grant and Co. When she told 
> me this story we laughed until our sides hurt and I knew I had to retell it 
> to a sympathetic audience. Now, here is the DISCLAIMER: Some of you like 
> racy, skinny, lightweight bikes. Some of you appreciate the roadie life. 
> Some of you are partial to drop bars and clipless pedals. And that’s 
> lovely, and we are among friends here, but I’m about to poke fun of all 
> those things. I don’t mean to offend, but I do so love to laugh, so I hope 
> you will forgive me for being offensive this one time, and just giggle with 
> me for a bit. If you are feeling gracious, and you like a little satire in 
> your life, please do read on! If not, stop HERE... 
>
> It was the first morning, and the plan was to hit the bike trails early 
> and see some historic sights in the city. Heather dressed in a breezy, 
> colorful, summery outfit, and bounded downstairs to the lobby. Christine 
> and Dan arrived, looked at Heather, disbelieving and said, “Is that what 
> you’re wearing?!” Heather looked back at them, eyes roving over their 
> unusual outfits. They were covered in colorful, skin-tight lycra. They 
> donned shorts that were oddly padded and somewhat profane, as their 
> crotches were accentuated and bulging. Their shoes were weird, and made 
> sharp clicks on the tile with every step. “Is that what YOU’RE wearing?!” 
> Heather gasped. 
>
> Ah, but they are good friends, so everyone shrugged and headed out the 
> door. They made their way to their bikes, where they were about to have 
> their next mutual shock. Heather has a lovely red Biria, bedecked with 
> racks and a basket and capped with a nice, wide saddle. Hers are romantic, 
> swept-back handlebars, and her tires are smartly covered with fenders. She 
> has chosen this bike because she has commuted downtown for years in several 
> cities and these attributes of the bike are the ones that make sense to 
> her. She has never read Grant’s book. She doesn’t care about online forums 
> or bike literature. She arrived at these conclusions because she knows that 
> they work. Thus, when she looked over at her friends’ carbon racing 
> machines, she couldn’t help but gawk. Dan’s bike is a 20 year old carbon 
> machine, and Christine’s carbon bike was purchased in October. No fenders. 
> No racks (Dan had a giant backpack he was carrying like a pack mule, and 
> the day was a sweltering one.). Christine and Dan mounted their bikes and 
> suddenly their feet were glued to their pedals. What fresh horror was this? 
> My sister kept staring at this couple struggling to release their feet from 
> these traps at every intersection and stop. Christine was less skilled at 
> this, and at one of their stops she tipped over, padded shorts and all. 
> “Why do you use those?” Heather asked incredulously, pointing to the 
> pedals. “Oh, these REALLY help with efficiency,” explained Dan, as 
> Christine scraped herself off the pavement. 
>
> They reached their first destination. There was a lovely waterfall to 
> appreciate, so they dismounted and made their way to it. Clickety-clack, 
> clickety-clack went the Efficiency Shoes on the boardwalk. The rest of the 
> afternoon was much like that, and 25 miles later, so ended the first day. 
>
> The next morning found the couple dithering about what to wear. They were 
> going out for a nice lunch and to visit a local museum, and the couple was 
> in a quandary about their clothes. They were biking so they needed “bike 
> clothes.” But they were also planning to do fun, touristy things, so they 
> needed “normal clothes.”  They didn’t want to wear the clickety-clacks, but 
> their pedals called for it.  “I don’t know if I can ride my bike without my 
> padded shorts,” said Christine. They compromised. They put on normal 
> clothing with their clickety-clacks. Then they stuffed extra shoes into 
> Dan’s large backpack. They pedaled off, crotches on fire, Dan sweating 
> under the weight strapped to his back. 
>
> “Why do you have that bike seat if it hurts to ride it?” asked Heather, 
> genuinely curious. 
>
> “Oh, well, I probably save 5 grams using this one!” crowed Dan, “And you 
> may not think that sounds like much, but a few grams here and a few grams 
> there really adds up!” 
>
> They continued on, where their way was impeded by several puddles. Heather 
> lifted her legs up and sailed gleefully through the water, outfit intact 
> and free of mud. Oddly, she was alone. She looked back and saw her friends, 
> who had come almost to a halt, negotiating their 

[RBW] Re: Low-Normal rear derailleurs... R.I.P.?

2018-06-08 Thread d2mini
Something I wish I was told about 5 years ago!! hahahaha! ;)



On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 5:33:03 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Bill's call is a good one.  I spared my 8-sp Record cassette when it was 
> at closeout prices.  All my Brooks Select saddles are spared, and were 
> bought on closeout, each right around $100.  Keep an eye on the closeout 
> stuff and buy a couple of it's something you know you're going to use.  
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 4:24:48 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I'm a mechanic, and I understand how things work Stock up on the 
>> stuff you know you want to keep running.  9-speed cassettes, even 10-speed 
>> cassettes might go away next.  Top quality 8-speed cassettes are long gone, 
>> just like top quality 6-speed freewheels.  
>> ...
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] FS: Brooks C15 Cambium carved all weather saddle.

2018-06-08 Thread Lum Gim Fong
New!! Black!
Rode only about 10 miles.
Awesome saddle but too wide in the crotch area for me.

90$ shipped Conus

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[RBW] Any must see bike shops in Berlin?

2018-06-08 Thread Michael Cinibulk
I have not been in person; but from their web presence and sponsorship of 
l’Eroica, Steel Vintage Bikes looks to be a must see. 

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[RBW] Re: The Most Disappointing Bike: A Satire

2018-06-08 Thread Rusty Click
What a wonderful story, wonderfully told!

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:04:44 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I just got off the phone with my sister. She accompanied a married couple 
> who are dear friends from out east to Duluth, MN where they hit the bike 
> trails and saw all the sights. Heather knows very little about Rivendell, 
> but is tolerant of my enthusiasm for all things Grant and Co. When she told 
> me this story we laughed until our sides hurt and I knew I had to retell it 
> to a sympathetic audience. Now, here is the DISCLAIMER: Some of you like 
> racy, skinny, lightweight bikes. Some of you appreciate the roadie life. 
> Some of you are partial to drop bars and clipless pedals. And that’s 
> lovely, and we are among friends here, but I’m about to poke fun of all 
> those things. I don’t mean to offend, but I do so love to laugh, so I hope 
> you will forgive me for being offensive this one time, and just giggle with 
> me for a bit. If you are feeling gracious, and you like a little satire in 
> your life, please do read on! If not, stop HERE... 
>
> It was the first morning, and the plan was to hit the bike trails early 
> and see some historic sights in the city. Heather dressed in a breezy, 
> colorful, summery outfit, and bounded downstairs to the lobby. Christine 
> and Dan arrived, looked at Heather, disbelieving and said, “Is that what 
> you’re wearing?!” Heather looked back at them, eyes roving over their 
> unusual outfits. They were covered in colorful, skin-tight lycra. They 
> donned shorts that were oddly padded and somewhat profane, as their 
> crotches were accentuated and bulging. Their shoes were weird, and made 
> sharp clicks on the tile with every step. “Is that what YOU’RE wearing?!” 
> Heather gasped. 
>
> Ah, but they are good friends, so everyone shrugged and headed out the 
> door. They made their way to their bikes, where they were about to have 
> their next mutual shock. Heather has a lovely red Biria, bedecked with 
> racks and a basket and capped with a nice, wide saddle. Hers are romantic, 
> swept-back handlebars, and her tires are smartly covered with fenders. She 
> has chosen this bike because she has commuted downtown for years in several 
> cities and these attributes of the bike are the ones that make sense to 
> her. She has never read Grant’s book. She doesn’t care about online forums 
> or bike literature. She arrived at these conclusions because she knows that 
> they work. Thus, when she looked over at her friends’ carbon racing 
> machines, she couldn’t help but gawk. Dan’s bike is a 20 year old carbon 
> machine, and Christine’s carbon bike was purchased in October. No fenders. 
> No racks (Dan had a giant backpack he was carrying like a pack mule, and 
> the day was a sweltering one.). Christine and Dan mounted their bikes and 
> suddenly their feet were glued to their pedals. What fresh horror was this? 
> My sister kept staring at this couple struggling to release their feet from 
> these traps at every intersection and stop. Christine was less skilled at 
> this, and at one of their stops she tipped over, padded shorts and all. 
> “Why do you use those?” Heather asked incredulously, pointing to the 
> pedals. “Oh, these REALLY help with efficiency,” explained Dan, as 
> Christine scraped herself off the pavement. 
>
> They reached their first destination. There was a lovely waterfall to 
> appreciate, so they dismounted and made their way to it. Clickety-clack, 
> clickety-clack went the Efficiency Shoes on the boardwalk. The rest of the 
> afternoon was much like that, and 25 miles later, so ended the first day. 
>
> The next morning found the couple dithering about what to wear. They were 
> going out for a nice lunch and to visit a local museum, and the couple was 
> in a quandary about their clothes. They were biking so they needed “bike 
> clothes.” But they were also planning to do fun, touristy things, so they 
> needed “normal clothes.”  They didn’t want to wear the clickety-clacks, but 
> their pedals called for it.  “I don’t know if I can ride my bike without my 
> padded shorts,” said Christine. They compromised. They put on normal 
> clothing with their clickety-clacks. Then they stuffed extra shoes into 
> Dan’s large backpack. They pedaled off, crotches on fire, Dan sweating 
> under the weight strapped to his back. 
>
> “Why do you have that bike seat if it hurts to ride it?” asked Heather, 
> genuinely curious. 
>
> “Oh, well, I probably save 5 grams using this one!” crowed Dan, “And you 
> may not think that sounds like much, but a few grams here and a few grams 
> there really adds up!” 
>
> They continued on, where their way was impeded by several puddles. Heather 
> lifted her legs up and sailed gleefully through the water, outfit intact 
> and free of mud. Oddly, she was alone. She looked back and saw her friends, 
> who had come almost to a halt, negotiating their way around the puddles. 
> “Do 

[RBW] Re: FS Kid's Beinn 24

2018-06-08 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Won't be long before the kid is bigger than me...

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:20:12 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The kid's bike is bigger than your Raleigh 20 ;-)

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[RBW] Re: Low-Normal rear derailleurs... R.I.P.?

2018-06-08 Thread Ron Mc
Bill's call is a good one.  I spared my 8-sp Record cassette when it was at 
closeout prices.  All my Brooks Select saddles are spared, and were bought 
on closeout, each right around $100.  Keep an eye on the closeout stuff and 
buy a couple of it's something you know you're going to use.  

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 4:24:48 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I'm a mechanic, and I understand how things work Stock up on the stuff 
> you know you want to keep running.  9-speed cassettes, even 10-speed 
> cassettes might go away next.  Top quality 8-speed cassettes are long gone, 
> just like top quality 6-speed freewheels.  
> ...
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clicking noise -- About to lose my mind.

2018-06-08 Thread Ron Mc


On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 8:25:40 PM UTC-5, Nathan Neuberger wrote:
>
> Well, they say it's always the last thing you try...
>
>>
>>> It's supposed to work that way, continuing would be obstinate.  
Congrats on finding solution, especially the simplest and 
highest-probability one.   

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