date:20200513

Persistence, yes, that’s a nicer word than...nagging.

If the Nu-Cheviot is renamed Nag, I guess we’ll know who to blame.

I can’t wait for you and your SO to get the Nag Nu-Cheviot! 
L

Sent from my iPad

> On May 13, 2020, at 8:29 PM, Shoji Takahashi  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm holding my bike purchases until Nu-chev can be pre/ordered.
> 
> My SO and I are same PBH, so this will be easy... 
> 
> I'm not sure about the 700c for 55cm and was happy to see 650b for 50cm. I'm 
> happy to wait for the geometry chart and Riv recommendation now that the 
> Nu-chev news is out.
> 
> Thanks for your persistence, Leah. (That's my SO's word for it. :))
> 
> shoji
> arlington ma
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:33:40 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Andrew - excellent! So happy for you. 
>> 
>> The Nu-Chev has 700c wheels in the 55 cm size. 
>> Leah 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad 
>> 
>> > On May 13, 2020, at 3:31 PM, DHans  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > One other question. The current Cheviot 55 seems to be fit with 650b 
>> > wheels. Is this changing? 
>> > Doug 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

"I am likely in, I was waiting for the Anniversary mixte, but I  think this 
will likely be a fine substitute."

Indeed, this is the Anniversary Mixte to my eye. It's the one Grant and Will 
mentioned in the process of telling me the anniversary bike wasn't happening, 
so it's the Anniversary Cheviot! 

According to the Book of Joe 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

2020-05-13 Thread masmojo

Lately, I've been working on some BMX bikes; BMX bikes are so different from a 
"normal" bike. I personally think a hammer is not the appropriate tool for 
working on a bike, but it's absolutely essential when working on a BMX  bike! 
LOL 
And sometimes they require a lot of hammer; which feels unnatural,  but also 
oddly satisfying!

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Re: [RBW] Schwalbe’s Big Apple is a 10-year old tire design. What’s a newer/better alternative?

2020-05-13 Thread Robert Tilley

I'll need new tires for my 622 All Rounder soon and will likely go with one of the Rene Herse offerings. The Antelope Hill looks nice and everything I've heard about them has been good. My AR doesn't get a ton of miles so longevity of the tires isn't a huge concern for me.https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/700cx55-antelope-hill-tc/On their blog recently they talked about a new knobby that I may wait for.Robert TilleySan Diego, CA Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device From: bobshar...@gmail.comSent: May 13, 2020 8:34 PMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: [RBW] Schwalbe’s Big Apple is a 10-year old tire design. What’s a newer/better alternative?

The above question requires clarification. I’ll frame
the issues in a long-winded way as they pertain to my situation (since, from my
point of view, it’s all about me). My second- or third-hand 59 Clem Smith Jr.
came to me with 50mm (50-622) Schwalbe Big Apple tires (Performance Line, RaceGuard,
LiteSkin). Now, after about 2500 of my miles and an unknown prior history, it’s
time for new tires.

I am not a sophisticated or particularly knowledgeable judge
of tires. I have no depth of experience. However, I like the Big Apple’s virtues: it offers a very comfortable ride, relatively low rolling resistance, longevity,
a good price/value relationship, and an admirable resistance to flats. What’s not
to like, right?

But... there's always a but. Schwalbe, with the Big Apple introduction a decade ago,
was a pioneer in the balloon tire movement. And while there have been improvements
and variations in the Big Apple line, one wonders what else has been developed
by Schwalbe and competitors to fill the same niche for comfort, easy rolling, longevity,
value, and flat resistance.

To further narrow the question, my riding conditions consist
mainly of rails-to-trails mileage, around town use on paved and gravel roads,
and very limited use on light-duty off-road bike trails. Although my Clem is rather a
heavyweight, even among Clems, with me on board we are still safely below its maximum
GVWR, if there is such a thing for bikes. My riding days range from 10-40 miles
with very occasional longer ventures. My riding is more relaxed than aggressive. Knobbies
and gravel tires don’t seem necessary. I want comfort, easy rolling, value,
durability and flat resistance. Finally, I have a generalized impression that
lighter tires will be more satisfactory than heavier, other things being equal.

To get to the point of this long story, I’m seeking
advice from those with more experience. I’m looking at widths from 50-55mm,
maybe up to 60mm although I have to
consider fender clearance. And this will be simply a choice of tires, not a tube
vs. tubeless choice – I’m staying with tubes, And, this is not a quest for new
tire and wheel combinations. Here’s what I’ve gleaned after spelunking among
the archives:

·
The Big Apple is still a fine choice, but it’s
no lightweight

·
The Schwalbe Big Ben seems to be more of
everything the Big Apple offers, including more weight

·
The Schwalbe Big One, in its several iterations,
seems more fragile, less durable and more costly – although its other features
are admirable

·
The Maxxis Torch 29x2.1 looks interesting, and
is a good bit wider – yet lighter – than Big Apples, but I haven’t seen many
reviews

·
The Kenda tires that come standard on the Clem
seem to be held in low regard

·
Many of the highly-touted and rather costly specialist
tires seem more fragile and/or less long-lived than the Big AppleThe question is, what tire make and model would you recommend for my combination of priorities and riding conditions? Or, should I just order another set of Big Apples and call it a day? Thanks for any insights and the patience of the reader.LeRoy

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread masmojo

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:28:24 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
> Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot and 
> being in our club. 
> 
> 
> So, nothing to see here, move along. 
> Leah
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On May 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
> 
> 
> Roberta,
> I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I have a 
> 90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of bike. And, 
> the Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the Clem. I really 
> like my GT. 
> Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the 
> leap. I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys. 
> 
> 
> So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward to 
> seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride. If 
> anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested. 
> Doug 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Doug,
> 
> 
> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  
> 
> 
> 
> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent on 
> all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably by 2 
> or 3 fold.
> 
> 
> 
> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months later, 
> a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   I'd been 
> riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are the best 
> money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy they bring 
> me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that I'm smiling 
> the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even more friends.
> 
> 
> Roberta
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:Great news Leah! 
> Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been looking hard at the 
> Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled on spending more than 
> I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of money but a lot for me. I 
> really like the idea of a lower top tube since I’m no longer a spring 
> chicken...53. 
> 
> 
> 
> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait and 
> grab one when they arrive?
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
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I am likely in, I was waiting for the Anniversary mixte, but I  think this will 
likely be a fine substitute.

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[RBW] Schwalbe’s Big Apple is a 10-year old tire design. What’s a newer/better alternative?

2020-05-13 Thread LeRoy

The above question requires clarification. I’ll frame the issues in a
long-winded way as they pertain to my situation (since, from my point of
view, it’s all about me). My second- or third-hand 59 Clem Smith Jr. came
to me with 50mm (50-622) Schwalbe Big Apple tires (Performance Line,
RaceGuard, LiteSkin). Now, after about 2500 of my miles and an unknown
prior history, it’s time for new tires.

I am not a sophisticated or particularly knowledgeable judge of tires. I
have no depth of experience. However, I like the Big Apple’s virtues: it
offers a very comfortable ride, relatively low rolling resistance,
longevity, a good price/value relationship, and an admirable resistance to
flats. What’s not to like, right?

But... there's always a but. Schwalbe, with the Big Apple introduction a
decade ago, was a pioneer in the balloon tire movement. And while there
have been improvements and variations in the Big Apple line, one wonders
what else has been developed by Schwalbe and competitors to fill the same
niche for comfort, easy rolling, longevity, value, and flat resistance.

To further narrow the question, my riding conditions consist mainly of
rails-to-trails mileage, around town use on paved and gravel roads, and
very limited use on light-duty off-road bike trails. Although my Clem is
rather a heavyweight, even among Clems, with me on board we are still
safely below its maximum GVWR, if there is such a thing for bikes. My
riding days range from 10-40 miles with very occasional longer ventures. My
riding is more relaxed than aggressive. Knobbies and gravel tires don’t
seem necessary. I want comfort, easy rolling, value, durability and flat
resistance. Finally, I have a generalized impression that lighter tires
will be more satisfactory than heavier, other things being equal.

To get to the point of this long story, I’m seeking advice from those with
more experience. I’m looking at widths from 50-55mm, *maybe* up to 60mm
although I have to consider fender clearance. And this will be simply a
choice of tires, not a tube vs. tubeless choice – I’m staying with tubes,
And, this is not a quest for new tire and wheel combinations. Here’s what
I’ve gleaned after spelunking among the archives:

· The Big Apple is still a fine choice, but it’s no lightweight

· The Schwalbe Big Ben seems to be more of everything the Big Apple
offers, including more weight

· The Schwalbe Big One, in its several iterations, seems more fragile,
less durable and more costly – although its other features are admirable

· The Maxxis Torch 29x2.1 looks interesting, and is a good bit wider –
yet lighter – than Big Apples, but I haven’t seen many reviews

· The Kenda tires that come standard on the Clem seem to be held in
low regard

· Many of the highly-touted and rather costly specialist tires seem
more fragile and/or less long-lived than the Big Apple

The question is, what tire make and model would you recommend for my
combination of priorities and riding conditions? Or, should I just order
another set of Big Apples and call it a day? Thanks for any insights and
the patience of the reader.

LeRoy

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Shoji Takahashi

I'm holding my bike purchases until Nu-chev can be pre/ordered.

My SO and I are same PBH, so this will be easy... 

I'm not sure about the 700c for 55cm and was happy to see 650b for 50cm. 
I'm happy to wait for the geometry chart and Riv recommendation now that 
the Nu-chev news is out.

Thanks for your persistence, Leah. (That's my SO's word for it. :))

shoji
arlington ma



On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:33:40 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Andrew - excellent! So happy for you. 
>
> The Nu-Chev has 700c wheels in the 55 cm size. 
> Leah 
>
> Sent from my iPad 
>
> > On May 13, 2020, at 3:31 PM, DHans > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > One other question. The current Cheviot 55 seems to be fit with 650b 
> wheels. Is this changing? 
> > Doug 
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[RBW] Dyno Light Mounting w/ junction box

2020-05-13 Thread RDS

I am going to try dyno light for the first time (front light only for 
now).  I am having a wheel built w/ a son wide body.  I purchased a schmidt 
edulux ii w/ a junction box (I might add a charger later on) and coax 
connector.  Bike is roadini w/ cantilever brakes .. once I get the wheel, I 
will be attaching the light at the fork crown with the bracket shipped with 
the light which should work for cantilever brakes.  Anyone have any pics of 
how/where you mount the junction box?  The junction box is not that far 
from the light, so I'm guessing the head tube if the wire is long enough 
b/t the light and the junction box.  any help/pics appreciated of how/where 
your junction box is attached to the bike.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Ray Evans

Ah no, she doesn't ride any more! Can you call her for me, please?

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 6:28 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Well, Raydoes she get the bike, or do you? 
>
> Compromise: Get the size you both can use.
>
> According to the Book of Leah,
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 13, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Ray Evans  wrote:
>
> 
> Nice work, Leah. And wouldn't you know it, my Stimulus Check arrived
> today. So did my wife's. I'll need them both, yeah? Do I tell her?
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:36 PM Doug Hansford 
> wrote:
>
>> I know I know. I’m just curious. I really want the lower bar bike like a
>> Mixte. Im in!!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 13, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Leah Peterson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot
>> and being in our club.
>>
>> So, nothing to see here, move along.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Doug Hansford 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Roberta,
>> I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I
>> have a 90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of
>> bike. And, the Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the
>> Clem. I really like my GT.
>> Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the
>> leap. I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys.
>>
>> So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward
>> to seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride.
>> If anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested.
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Doug,
>>
>> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!
>>
>> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent
>> on all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably
>> by 2 or 3 fold.
>>
>> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv
>> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months
>> later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).
>> I'd been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are
>> the best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy
>> they bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that
>> I'm smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even
>> more friends.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>>>
>>> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been
>>> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled
>>> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of
>>> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since
>>> I’m no longer a spring chicken...53.
>>>
>>> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait
>>> and grab one when they arrive?
>>> Doug
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Well, Raydoes she get the bike, or do you? 

Compromise: Get the size you both can use. 

According to the Book of Leah,
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On May 13, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Ray Evans  wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice work, Leah. And wouldn't you know it, my Stimulus Check arrived today. 
> So did my wife's. I'll need them both, yeah? Do I tell her?
> 
>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:36 PM Doug Hansford  
>> wrote:
>> I know I know. I’m just curious. I really want the lower bar bike like a 
>> Mixte. Im in!!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 13, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
 
>>> Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot 
>>> and being in our club. 
>>> 
>>> So, nothing to see here, move along. 
>>> Leah
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On May 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Doug Hansford  
> wrote:
> 
 Roberta,
 I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I have 
 a 90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of bike. 
 And, the Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the Clem. 
 I really like my GT. 
 Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the 
 leap. I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys. 
 
 So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward to 
 seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride. 
 If anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested. 
 Doug 
 
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>> On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Doug,
> 
> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  
> 
> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent 
> on all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably 
> by 2 or 3 fold.
> 
> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months 
> later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   
> I'd been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are 
> the best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy 
> they bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage 
> that I'm smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health. 
>  Even more friends.
> 
> Roberta
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
>> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am 
>> settled on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s 
>> custom kind of money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower 
>> top tube since I’m no longer a spring chicken...53. 
>> 
>> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait 
>> and grab one when they arrive? 
>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Ray Evans

Nice work, Leah. And wouldn't you know it, my Stimulus Check arrived today.
So did my wife's. I'll need them both, yeah? Do I tell her?

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:36 PM Doug Hansford 
wrote:

> I know I know. I’m just curious. I really want the lower bar bike like a
> Mixte. Im in!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 13, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Leah Peterson 
> wrote:
>
> Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot
> and being in our club.
>
> So, nothing to see here, move along.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Doug Hansford 
> wrote:
>
> Roberta,
> I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I have
> a 90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of bike.
> And, the Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the Clem. I
> really like my GT.
> Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the
> leap. I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys.
>
> So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward to
> seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride. If
> anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested.
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>
> 
> Doug,
>
> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!
>
> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent
> on all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably
> by 2 or 3 fold.
>
> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv
> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months
> later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).
> I'd been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are
> the best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy
> they bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that
> I'm smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even
> more friends.
>
> Roberta
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>>
>> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been
>> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled
>> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of
>> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since
>> I’m no longer a spring chicken...53.
>>
>> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait
>> and grab one when they arrive?
>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Ann, no word on the colors, but we did see the demos in silver, Chameleon Green 
and Appaloosa Orange. Those aren’t set in stone - that’s all I know. 

I so hope your job is secure - I’m sorry for the anxiety that must be plaguing 
you. Truly. 

#RivSisters,
Leah

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> On May 13, 2020, at 4:16 PM, 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> 
> 
> Leah:
> 
> Any word on the colors?  I am very interested.  But unfortunately, I need to 
> wait and see whether I will still have a job in the future before I put in my 
> order.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Doug Hansford

I know I know. I’m just curious. I really want the lower bar bike like a Mixte. 
Im in!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot and 
> being in our club. 
> 
> So, nothing to see here, move along. 
> Leah
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On May 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>> 
>> Roberta,
>> I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I have a 
>> 90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of bike. And, 
>> the Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the Clem. I 
>> really like my GT. 
>> Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the 
>> leap. I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys. 
>> 
>> So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward to 
>> seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride. If 
>> anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested. 
>> Doug 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Doug,
>>> 
>>> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  
>>> 
>>> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent 
>>> on all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably 
>>> by 2 or 3 fold.
>>> 
>>> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
>>> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months 
>>> later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   
>>> I'd been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are 
>>> the best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy 
>>> they bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that 
>>> I'm smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even 
>>> more friends.
>>> 
>>> Roberta
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
 Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
 looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am 
 settled on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom 
 kind of money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube 
 since I’m no longer a spring chicken...53. 
 
 So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait 
 and grab one when they arrive? 
 Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

"Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot and 
being in our club. 

So, nothing to see here, move along. 
Leah"

THE BICYCLE BELLE HATH SPOKEN

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Re: [RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

Yes, you can. I didn't figure out torque specs from some kid at the LBS telling 
me, I read and watched stuff online. Taking it to the LBS doesn't teach you how 
to do it yourself, and 50% of this forum is people teaching other people the 
things they don't know about bikes. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Doug, you can’t get an Atlantis anymore because you’re getting a Cheviot and 
being in our club. 

So, nothing to see here, move along. 
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On May 13, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
> 
> Roberta,
> I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I have a 
> 90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of bike. And, 
> the Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the Clem. I really 
> like my GT. 
> Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the 
> leap. I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys. 
> 
> So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward to 
> seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride. If 
> anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested. 
> Doug 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Doug,
>> 
>> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  
>> 
>> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent on 
>> all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably by 2 
>> or 3 fold.
>> 
>> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
>> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months 
>> later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   I'd 
>> been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are the 
>> best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy they 
>> bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that I'm 
>> smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even more 
>> friends.
>> 
>> Roberta
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>>> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
>>> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled 
>>> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of 
>>> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since 
>>> I’m no longer a spring chicken...53. 
>>> 
>>> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait 
>>> and grab one when they arrive? 
>>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Doug Hansford

Roberta,
I am not a Riv owner. I had a Clem H for awhile but sold it because I have a 
90s GT mountain bike I built into an all around commuter kind of bike. And, the 
Clem was so similar. I decided to keep the GT and sell the Clem. I really like 
my GT. 
Over the past few years I’ve wanted a Rivendell but have yet to take the leap. 
I’ve owned many bikes over the years including a few Surlys. 

So, I don’t feel like I’ve ever REALLY owned a Riv. I’m looking forward to 
seeing and feeling what all of you have been saying about how they ride. If 
anyone could compare an Atlantis and a Cheviot i would be interested. 
Doug 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> 
> Doug,
> 
> Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  
> 
> 3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent on 
> all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably by 2 
> or 3 fold.
> 
> The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
> owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months later, 
> a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   I'd been 
> riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are the best 
> money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy they bring 
> me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that I'm smiling 
> the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even more friends.
> 
> Roberta
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
>> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled 
>> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of 
>> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since I’m 
>> no longer a spring chicken...53.
>> 
>> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait and 
>> grab one when they arrive? 
>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

2020-05-13 Thread Steve Palincsar



On 5/13/20 6:49 PM, Austin B. wrote:
I generally only apply this approach when it comes to wheels and frame 
repair. My attempts to true a wheel only made it worse.



Me too

One of the easiest ways to ruin a wheel I've ever seen



Austin


On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:23:48 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

A good rule to bear in mind is, if you don't know what you're
doing maybe you should just let the LBS take care of it.



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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch

Leah:

Any word on the colors?  I am very interested.  But unfortunately, I need 
to wait and see whether I will still have a job in the future before I put 
in my order.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

2020-05-13 Thread Steve Palincsar

Yes, but you can't learn stuff like the difference between too loose, 
just right and oh shit from a video.


On 5/13/20 6:56 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:

A good rule to bear in mind is if you don't know what you're doing you can read 
stuff and watch videos and learn.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Doug,

Are you a Riv owner now?  I don't remember.  The Atlantis is awesome!!  

3 years ago I spent more money on my Joe A. than all the money I've spent 
on all the bikes, gear, and maintenance in my entire lifetime.   Probably 
by 2 or 3 fold.

The first Riv I rode was a MUSA Atlantis.  I knew I was going to be a Riv 
owner from that first pedal stroke!  Then, a Chev and a Sam.  4 months 
later, a Joe A (purchased) and 2 years after that, an AHH (purchased).   
I'd been riding the same Specialized Hardrock for 30 years.  My Rivs are 
the best money I've spent on "goods" and worth every penny.  Oh, the joy 
they bring me.   And, because of them, the 10 fold increase in mileage that 
I'm smiling the whole ride.  More exercise, more happy, more health.  Even 
more friends.

Roberta

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:15:15 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>
> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled 
> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of 
> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since 
> I’m no longer a spring chicken...53. 
>
> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait 
> and grab one when they arrive? 
> Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

A good rule to bear in mind is if you don't know what you're doing you can read 
stuff and watch videos and learn.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

2020-05-13 Thread Austin B.

I generally only apply this approach when it comes to wheels and frame 
repair. My attempts to true a wheel only made it worse. 

Austin


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> A good rule to bear in mind is, if you don't know what you're doing maybe 
> you should just let the LBS take care of it.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

YES YES YES.   I will order one.  Hopefully in RBW blue.  "Where do I send 
my money?"

Riv will only exist if they can order and sell bikes.  i hear the bike 
market is booming these days.

Oh, I'm so happy.

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 5:57:29 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I have the best news! 
>
> First, I confess that since we knew there would be a Fancy Cheviot last 
> year, I have been sending emails to Rivendell. Prior to that, I had been 
> checking in, begging for the Anniversary Mixte to be made, but it was not 
> to be. Grant said that instead, there would be a “fancified Cheviot.” This 
> Nu-Chev appears to be what he meant, and it does resemble the sketch we saw 
> on the Blahg. 
>
> Things went from bad to worse for the business over the next several 
> months (we know because we all read the blog posts) and it was looking like 
> this model may not even happen. I checked in from time to time about the 
> bike but no promises could be made. Best content yourself with your Clem, I 
> told myself, possibly have your mixte made using the custom option. These 
> past 3 months I wrote a lot of emails asking questions of poor Will and 
> Vince because I knew their factory time slot was approaching, and I wanted 
> to get in line for a custom mixte with Riv/Nobilette if Rivendell did not 
> place their Cheviot order. No real time estimate can be given until the 
> purchase order is placed. Further complicating things, the bike wasn’t 
> quite ready - there were some design details to work out. Until a purchase 
> order is made, you can’t assume the bike is going to be made...ever. The 
> custom option was in my back pocket, but I really didn’t want to spend the 
> extra money - and also, Rivendell makes more money on a production bike. 
>
> But today...May 13th is a great day, my friends. Will wrote to say that - 
> this morning - he placed his purchase order for the 2020 Fancy Cheviots!!! 
>  (I got Will’s blessing to say this here.) 
>
> Let’s just let that sink 
> in 
>
> Ok, have we all composed ourselves? Are we wearing our clothes? No one has 
> soiled him/herself? Have we managed to remain upright? Ok, good, moving 
> right along... Will figures Nu-Chevs (his word) will be here late 
> October/early November. So, with luck, we’ll burn off our Thanksgiving 
> turkey on the backs of our Cheviots. If not that, they’ll be wrapped in 
> bows under our Christmas trees. But we’ll hope for November. 
>
> Now, here’s what I’m hoping. I’m hoping we clean them out of their 
> Nu-Cheviot stock. This is because 1. I feel like (true or not) I pressured 
> them into making the order and 2. Rivendell took a gamble placing a big 
> bike order in the current economic climate. They need to sell these bikes. 
>
> So, if you are a man who has been considering setting aside your 
> objections to mixte frames, you should order this Cheviot.  If you are 
> someone with stimulus money burning a hole in your pocketses (I hope you 
> get that reference), you should order your very own shiny Nu-Cheviot. If 
> you are one of my #RivSisters, well, just look at this bike - It’s been 
> made just for you. I don’t know what it is exactly, but I’ve yet to hear a 
> #RivSister say she has anything but heart eyes for these Nu-Cheviots. Those 
> split rear stays, those sexy swoops, those voluminous 700c wheels - these 
> bikes are different than any other Riv model currently offered and this is 
> a club I want to be in. 
>
> Save me a 55, I told Will. Does anyone else know for certain they’ll sign 
> up for the pre-order when it hits the website? 
>
> The future is bright and it looks like a mixte! 朗 
> Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Andrew - excellent! So happy for you.

The Nu-Chev has 700c wheels in the 55 cm size.
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On May 13, 2020, at 3:31 PM, DHans  wrote:
> 
> One other question. The current Cheviot 55 seems to be fit with 650b wheels. 
> Is this changing?
> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

Oh, yay, Doug, yes let’ be in the same club! I’m so happy you’re a Man Who 
Wants A Cheviot. I don’t know when the pre-order happens, but at one time they 
said there would be one...

Sent from my iPad

> On May 13, 2020, at 3:15 PM, DHans  wrote:
> 
> Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been 
> looking hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled 
> on spending more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of 
> money but a lot for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since I’m 
> no longer a spring chicken...53. 
> 
> So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait and 
> grab one when they arrive?
> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread DHans

One other question. The current Cheviot 55 seems to be fit with 650b wheels. Is 
this changing?
Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread ANDREW ERMAN

I plan on pre-ordering!

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:57 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the best news!
>
> First, I confess that since we knew there would be a Fancy Cheviot last
> year, I have been sending emails to Rivendell. Prior to that, I had been
> checking in, begging for the Anniversary Mixte to be made, but it was not
> to be. Grant said that instead, there would be a “fancified Cheviot.” This
> Nu-Chev appears to be what he meant, and it does resemble the sketch we saw
> on the Blahg.
>
> Things went from bad to worse for the business over the next several
> months (we know because we all read the blog posts) and it was looking like
> this model may not even happen. I checked in from time to time about the
> bike but no promises could be made. Best content yourself with your Clem, I
> told myself, possibly have your mixte made using the custom option. These
> past 3 months I wrote a lot of emails asking questions of poor Will and
> Vince because I knew their factory time slot was approaching, and I wanted
> to get in line for a custom mixte with Riv/Nobilette if Rivendell did not
> place their Cheviot order. No real time estimate can be given until the
> purchase order is placed. Further complicating things, the bike wasn’t
> quite ready - there were some design details to work out. Until a purchase
> order is made, you can’t assume the bike is going to be made...ever. The
> custom option was in my back pocket, but I really didn’t want to spend the
> extra money - and also, Rivendell makes more money on a production bike.
>
> But today...May 13th is a great day, my friends. Will wrote to say that -
> this morning - he placed his purchase order for the 2020 Fancy Cheviots!!!
> (I got Will’s blessing to say this here.)
>
> Let’s just let that sink
> in
>
> Ok, have we all composed ourselves? Are we wearing our clothes? No one has
> soiled him/herself? Have we managed to remain upright? Ok, good, moving
> right along... Will figures Nu-Chevs (his word) will be here late
> October/early November. So, with luck, we’ll burn off our Thanksgiving
> turkey on the backs of our Cheviots. If not that, they’ll be wrapped in
> bows under our Christmas trees. But we’ll hope for November.
>
> Now, here’s what I’m hoping. I’m hoping we clean them out of their
> Nu-Cheviot stock. This is because 1. I feel like (true or not) I pressured
> them into making the order and 2. Rivendell took a gamble placing a big
> bike order in the current economic climate. They need to sell these bikes.
>
> So, if you are a man who has been considering setting aside your
> objections to mixte frames, you should order this Cheviot.  If you are
> someone with stimulus money burning a hole in your pocketses (I hope you
> get that reference), you should order your very own shiny Nu-Cheviot. If
> you are one of my #RivSisters, well, just look at this bike - It’s been
> made just for you. I don’t know what it is exactly, but I’ve yet to hear a
> #RivSister say she has anything but heart eyes for these Nu-Cheviots. Those
> split rear stays, those sexy swoops, those voluminous 700c wheels - these
> bikes are different than any other Riv model currently offered and this is
> a club I want to be in.
>
> Save me a 55, I told Will. Does anyone else know for certain they’ll sign
> up for the pre-order when it hits the website?
>
> The future is bright and it looks like a mixte! 朗
> Leah
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

2020-05-13 Thread Steve Palincsar

A good rule to bear in mind is, if you don't know what you're doing 
maybe you should just let the LBS take care of it.


On 5/13/20 2:54 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:

The learning curve for cranks and bottom brackets can be quite steep and 
expensive. Especially back in my day when Google was a book or magazine page 
you tracked down and hoped you understood the grainy pics. Good times!


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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread DHans

Great news Leah! Okay I said I wanted a Cheviot. But lately I’ve been looking 
hard at the Atlantis. I really want ONE bike to ride and am settled on spending 
more than I’ve ever spent on a bike. Not Joe’s custom kind of money but a lot 
for me. I really like the idea of a lower top tube since I’m no longer a spring 
chicken...53. 

So, yes, I’m a man who wants the Cheviot. Can we pre-order or do we wait and 
grab one when they arrive?
Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

2020-05-13 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

I have the best news!

First, I confess that since we knew there would be a Fancy Cheviot last year, I
have been sending emails to Rivendell. Prior to that, I had been checking in,
begging for the Anniversary Mixte to be made, but it was not to be. Grant said
that instead, there would be a “fancified Cheviot.” This Nu-Chev appears to be
what he meant, and it does resemble the sketch we saw on the Blahg.

Things went from bad to worse for the business over the next several months (we
know because we all read the blog posts) and it was looking like this model may
not even happen. I checked in from time to time about the bike but no promises
could be made. Best content yourself with your Clem, I told myself, possibly
have your mixte made using the custom option. These past 3 months I wrote a lot
of emails asking questions of poor Will and Vince because I knew their factory
time slot was approaching, and I wanted to get in line for a custom mixte with
Riv/Nobilette if Rivendell did not place their Cheviot order. No real time
estimate can be given until the purchase order is placed. Further complicating
things, the bike wasn’t quite ready - there were some design details to work
out. Until a purchase order is made, you can’t assume the bike is going to be
made...ever. The custom option was in my back pocket, but I really didn’t want
to spend the extra money - and also, Rivendell makes more money on a production
bike.

But today...May 13th is a great day, my friends. Will wrote to say that - this
morning - he placed his purchase order for the 2020 Fancy Cheviots!!! (I got
Will’s blessing to say this here.)

Let’s just let that sink
in

Ok, have we all composed ourselves? Are we wearing our clothes? No one has
soiled him/herself? Have we managed to remain upright? Ok, good, moving right
along... Will figures Nu-Chevs (his word) will be here late October/early
November. So, with luck, we’ll burn off our Thanksgiving turkey on the backs of
our Cheviots. If not that, they’ll be wrapped in bows under our Christmas
trees. But we’ll hope for November.

Now, here’s what I’m hoping. I’m hoping we clean them out of their Nu-Cheviot
stock. This is because 1. I feel like (true or not) I pressured them into
making the order and 2. Rivendell took a gamble placing a big bike order in the
current economic climate. They need to sell these bikes.

So, if you are a man who has been considering setting aside your objections to
mixte frames, you should order this Cheviot. If you are someone with stimulus
money burning a hole in your pocketses (I hope you get that reference), you
should order your very own shiny Nu-Cheviot. If you are one of my #RivSisters,
well, just look at this bike - It’s been made just for you. I don’t know what
it is exactly, but I’ve yet to hear a #RivSister say she has anything but heart
eyes for these Nu-Cheviots. Those split rear stays, those sexy swoops, those
voluminous 700c wheels - these bikes are different than any other Riv model
currently offered and this is a club I want to be in.

Save me a 55, I told Will. Does anyone else know for certain they’ll sign up
for the pre-order when it hits the website?

The future is bright and it looks like a mixte! 朗
Leah

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Re: [RBW] FS: 10-speed 11-34 Shimano cassette $20

Yes, this is my new thing where I only own a few bikes and I sell all the stuff 
I'm not using. Austerity for the people! ✊

Which reminds me, I should list my new Brompton H6L a certain friend of ours 
told me I would never ride 

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[RBW] RBW's Banana Sax with inside flap for security is available.

2020-05-13 Thread DHans

Thanks for the heads-up Roberta. I bought a used one not long ago and it does 
not have this handy feature. But, it’s so useful and fits just right under my 
Brooks saddle. I hang my reflective triangle on it and ease on down the road. 
Doug

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[RBW] Re: RBW's Banana Sax with inside flap for security is available.

2020-05-13 Thread Scott G.



On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:25:43 PM UTC-4, greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
> Is it me, or is the Banana Sack now the only bag in production that 
> attaches to a Brooks via saddle loops? Every other saddle bag seems to 
> mount with a strap that wraps up around the seat rails, then around the 
> bag. I've got an old REI saddle bag scored from a thrift shop thats much 
> like the Banana Sack in fundamental design, so easy to mount / unmount to a 
> Brooks, kinda perfect, can't find anything like it.
>

Acorn Bags make a several bags that attach to Brooks/Berthoud bag loops.

https://www.acornbags.com/
They are very well built, I've several of them.

The Medium Saddle bag, is the closest to a Banana Bag. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB or trade - front downtube shifter

2020-05-13 Thread KyleBH

Thanks for the offer, but Joe hooked me up!

Kyle



On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 6:21:20 PM UTC-4, aeroperf wrote:
>
>
> Kyle-
>
> I may have what you need, but I have no idea what to charge/trade.  You’d 
> get the entire L+R unit.
>
> After 4 years riding my Sam I wanted to try a “real” road bike so I got a 
> 1982 Team Fuji, and started modernizing it.
> The one thing I haven’t changed yet is the shifters.  I still have the 
> Suntour BL downtube friction shifters with rubber covers, 2x6, but they are 
> still on the bike.  See photo.  The right (rear) shifter will not shift 
> more than a 7-speed Shimano.  So I’ve been riding it as a 3x7 for a while.
>
> I already have a set of Dura Ace SL-BS77 bar ends but haven’t put them on 
> yet, so I don’t need those…
> I could use a cloth front handlebar bag for my Sam or Soma Saga.
>
> PM me if this is what you had in mind.  
>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: 10-speed 11-34 Shimano cassette $20

2020-05-13 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch

Joe,

Are we suppose to sell bike stuff we still own if we know we will never use it 
again 臘‍♂️.  I guess I don’t need to search for a larger home  I will just 
start moving all the stuff I have accumulated  my friend.  How do I stop 
myself from buying new bikes with the proceeds however; then again why am I 
asking you a question you have no experience following either 路‍♂️.

Sincerely,
Ryan
West Michigan

Glad you are loving that custom but get the SS Back
On the road too this month.

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[RBW] Re: RBW's Banana Sax with inside flap for security is available.

2020-05-13 Thread Shoji Takahashi

Hi Scott,
I think Baggabond, HappiSack, Bagboy, and Saddlesack XS all attach via 
saddle loops. 

I have the predecessors to those (Saddlesack Large, Medium, Small). They 
are my favorite bags for general use.

shoji
arlington ma

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:25:43 PM UTC-4, greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
> Is it me, or is the Banana Sack now the only bag in production that 
> attaches to a Brooks via saddle loops? Every other saddle bag seems to 
> mount with a strap that wraps up around the seat rails, then around the 
> bag. I've got an old REI saddle bag scored from a thrift shop thats much 
> like the Banana Sack in fundamental design, so easy to mount / unmount to a 
> Brooks, kinda perfect, can't find anything like it.
>
> Scott
>
> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 12:58:39 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>>
>> I bought a "blue" banana sax and I got a dark blue color with an inside 
>> security fabric flap.  I called Spencer (inventory manager extraordinaire) 
>> wanting to order another just like this, and he told me all of his blue 
>> bags in stock are like this with the flap.  Now I can tip over and the 
>> contents of my bag will stay inside the bag.
>>
>> This is my preference to the inside toggle, and if it is yours, he has 
>> about a dozen in stock, and we're the only ones who know about it!   It is 
>> not mentioned on their product page.  Order before it's too late!
>>
>> The color is more a royal blue color and the bag is very stiff, with 
>> inside pocket on one side and a second inside pocket with stiffener on the 
>> side.  It reads a touch purple when I put it next to my AHH with a bright 
>> light shining on it.  It holds a bit more than the XS Saddle sack, which I 
>> like but sold recently because just a touch too small for me.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: RBW's Banana Sax with inside flap for security is available.

2020-05-13 Thread greenteadrinkers

Here's a old Ebay listing / sale of the REI bag I'd mentioned, not pretty, 
but super functional. Sorry for highjacking the post.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Novara-By-REI-Bike-Bag-Black-and-Grey-with-Reflective-Stripe-/223925851569?nma=true=ycZFq4yld0tMx%252Be0p85HUl%252BOUIg%253D_cvip=true=true=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 12:58:39 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>
> I bought a "blue" banana sax and I got a dark blue color with an inside 
> security fabric flap.  I called Spencer (inventory manager extraordinaire) 
> wanting to order another just like this, and he told me all of his blue 
> bags in stock are like this with the flap.  Now I can tip over and the 
> contents of my bag will stay inside the bag.
>
> This is my preference to the inside toggle, and if it is yours, he has 
> about a dozen in stock, and we're the only ones who know about it!   It is 
> not mentioned on their product page.  Order before it's too late!
>
> The color is more a royal blue color and the bag is very stiff, with 
> inside pocket on one side and a second inside pocket with stiffener on the 
> side.  It reads a touch purple when I put it next to my AHH with a bright 
> light shining on it.  It holds a bit more than the XS Saddle sack, which I 
> like but sold recently because just a touch too small for me.
>
> Roberta
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW's Banana Sax with inside flap for security is available.

2020-05-13 Thread greenteadrinkers

Is it me, or is the Banana Sack now the only bag in production that 
attaches to a Brooks via saddle loops? Every other saddle bag seems to 
mount with a strap that wraps up around the seat rails, then around the 
bag. I've got an old REI saddle bag scored from a thrift shop thats much 
like the Banana Sack in fundamental design, so easy to mount / unmount to a 
Brooks, kinda perfect, can't find anything like it.

Scott

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 12:58:39 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>
> I bought a "blue" banana sax and I got a dark blue color with an inside 
> security fabric flap.  I called Spencer (inventory manager extraordinaire) 
> wanting to order another just like this, and he told me all of his blue 
> bags in stock are like this with the flap.  Now I can tip over and the 
> contents of my bag will stay inside the bag.
>
> This is my preference to the inside toggle, and if it is yours, he has 
> about a dozen in stock, and we're the only ones who know about it!   It is 
> not mentioned on their product page.  Order before it's too late!
>
> The color is more a royal blue color and the bag is very stiff, with 
> inside pocket on one side and a second inside pocket with stiffener on the 
> side.  It reads a touch purple when I put it next to my AHH with a bright 
> light shining on it.  It holds a bit more than the XS Saddle sack, which I 
> like but sold recently because just a touch too small for me.
>
> Roberta
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW's Banana Sax with inside flap for security is available.

2020-05-13 Thread greenteadrinkers

Is it me, or is the Banana Sack now the only bag in production that 
attaches to a Brooks via saddle loops? Every other sag style bag seems to 
mount with a strap that wraps up around the seat rails, then around the 
bag. I've got an old REI saddle bag scored from a thrift shop thats much 
like the Banana Sack in fundamental design, so easy to mount / unmount to a 
Brooks, kinda perfect, can't find anything like it.

Scott

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 12:58:39 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>
> I bought a "blue" banana sax and I got a dark blue color with an inside 
> security fabric flap.  I called Spencer (inventory manager extraordinaire) 
> wanting to order another just like this, and he told me all of his blue 
> bags in stock are like this with the flap.  Now I can tip over and the 
> contents of my bag will stay inside the bag.
>
> This is my preference to the inside toggle, and if it is yours, he has 
> about a dozen in stock, and we're the only ones who know about it!   It is 
> not mentioned on their product page.  Order before it's too late!
>
> The color is more a royal blue color and the bag is very stiff, with 
> inside pocket on one side and a second inside pocket with stiffener on the 
> side.  It reads a touch purple when I put it next to my AHH with a bright 
> light shining on it.  It holds a bit more than the XS Saddle sack, which I 
> like but sold recently because just a touch too small for me.
>
> Roberta
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

2020-05-13 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch

My admissions have more to with the growth of my bikes than mechanical lessons.
I consider myself a complete novice when I started my own maintenance and
repairs. With low or no expectations one can expect mistakes and simply learn
from them. Fortunately none of my maintenance has cost me financially really.
Now regarding hunting and finding jumbo Rivendells that fit my almost 100PBH
measurement I make mistakes all the time justifying the next addition due to
their rarity and long stretches of nothing coming up for sale.
Several times I have justified a purchase telling myself I would sell 1 or 2
off following the new purchase.
Now I realize my failure at following through with that behavior. The new plan
is to sell first before purchasing a new jewel when it presents itself.
I have a special credit union checking account earning 3% interest linked to a
Paypal account which is the new criteria I use for new bike desires. No money
no bike/wheels/parts/etc.
Since bikes are my main vice in retirement I feel ok with my childlike wanting
desires and have a mature adult like check and balance system.

Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

2020-05-13 Thread Brian Campbell

4 or 5 years ago I picked up a vintage Trek 710 that ended up having a 
stuck seat post. I removed the crank set and put some penetrating fluid  
into the seat tube via the open bottom bracket. I let it sit for a few days 
and it still would not budge.

An internet search showed me that I could clamp the seat in a vise and use 
the frame as a lever to break the stuck post free. So I did.

A strong push, a cracking sound and movement! 

So I leaned in to it and split the seat lug down to the seat tube and bent 
it outward. The post was still stuck and it was the seat lug breaking 
rather than the post moving. l learned that force is not always your 
friend. Its one I have to keep remanding myself of over & over when it 
comes to bike repair..

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[RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

The learning curve for cranks and bottom brackets can be quite steep and 
expensive. Especially back in my day when Google was a book or magazine page 
you tracked down and hoped you understood the grainy pics. Good times! 

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Re: [RBW] FS: 10-speed 11-34 Shimano cassette $20

SOLD. Now let's see what other random stuff I have around here I'll never use...

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Carradice Cadet and Junior Bags. Both black.

2020-05-13 Thread Matthew Christensen

Thanks Roberta. I'll pass on the Junior bag.

Matt

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 8:46 AM Roberta  wrote:

> The Carradice Cadet bag is sold.  Thank you for your inquiries.
>
> The Carradice Junior bag is still available, with a price drop--$50!  Why
> pay retail?  :)   It has never been in the rain and I've never been
> bike-packing, so the only outdoors it's seen is me riding on paved
> services. Used about a year.  Some sun or dust discoloration that is only
> noticeable when bag is opened.
>
> Roberta
>
>
>
> https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bop/d/philadelphia-carradice-junior-saddlebag/7118247074.html
>
> This saddlebag in great shape, used one year, dust/sun discoloration on
> top and front, which is noticeable when you open the bag but not when the
> top is shut (I think it’s from a very dusty time we had last summer, but
> not 100% sure). Very clean. No abrasions or wear on the bag.
>
> Weight (grams): 440
> Capacity: 9 liters
> Dimensions: 30cm wide x 18cm high x 15cm deep
> Materials: Cotton Duck
>
> You can see more information about it here:
> https://www.benscycle.com/carradice-junior-saddle-bag---black/seat_bag_carradice__676-127/product
> and here:
> https://www.carradice.co.uk/bags/saddlebags/originals-junior-saddlebag
>
> On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>>
>> I have these on Craigslist, but I'm willing to ship from Philadelphia, PA
>> to list members. If you are considering these bags, please see the CL
>> listing to get full knowledge of the looks for the bags.  I have a
>> Carradice Zippered Roll bag to replace one of these bags and a Banana Sax
>> bag on the way to replace the other.  Great bags, but just more than I need.
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: 10-speed 11-34 Shimano cassette $20

2020-05-13 Thread Jonathan D.

Im on my phone but if available I’ll take it. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Carradice Cadet and Junior Bags. Both black.

2020-05-13 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles

The Carradice Cadet bag is sold.  Thank you for your inquiries.

The Carradice Junior bag is still available, with a price drop--$50!  Why 
pay retail?  :)   It has never been in the rain and I've never been 
bike-packing, so the only outdoors it's seen is me riding on paved 
services. Used about a year.  Some sun or dust discoloration that is only 
noticeable when bag is opened.  

Roberta

https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bop/d/philadelphia-carradice-junior-saddlebag/7118247074.html

This saddlebag in great shape, used one year, dust/sun discoloration on top 
and front, which is noticeable when you open the bag but not when the top 
is shut (I think it’s from a very dusty time we had last summer, but not 
100% sure). Very clean. No abrasions or wear on the bag.

Weight (grams): 440
Capacity: 9 liters
Dimensions: 30cm wide x 18cm high x 15cm deep
Materials: Cotton Duck

You can see more information about it here: 
https://www.benscycle.com/carradice-junior-saddle-bag---black/seat_bag_carradice__676-127/product

and here: 
https://www.carradice.co.uk/bags/saddlebags/originals-junior-saddlebag

On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 10:32:51 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>
> I have these on Craigslist, but I'm willing to ship from Philadelphia, PA 
> to list members. If you are considering these bags, please see the CL 
> listing to get full knowledge of the looks for the bags.  I have a 
> Carradice Zippered Roll bag to replace one of these bags and a Banana Sax 
> bag on the way to replace the other.  Great bags, but just more than I need.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Hub Recommendations

2020-05-13 Thread ascpgh

I've been conditioned by previous experience to do things right, once. 
Sometimes it's because I built something using less than the best materials 
because I didn't know about better choices or because it seemed like 
appropriate cost containment. The work and waste to undo something down to 
the point of a failure, necessity of replacement and a temporary 
substitute. This has applied in carpentry (pick each piece of lumber 
yourself), cabinet building (use the best fasteners and hardware), tiling 
(Ditra uncoupling mat), hardwood floors (have your own milled), old British 
(replace any Lucas part with others), Italian cars (Bayless Racing's timing 
belts), and bicycles- the source of so many trials and errors chronicled by 
these threads. 

My first SON was for my commuter to which I am less committed than the hub. 
It is ridden in whatever comes and spends its time at home indoors so the 
proprietary atmospheric compensation to prevent moisture being sucked into 
the hub is key, I think. It has performed flawlessly with virtually no 
attention or care from me other than wiping it occasionally. I believe this 
environmental change of indoor storage and year-round use is what killed 
the previous Phil Wood BB in a significantly shorter time and mileage than 
should be expected. 

When picking parts for my new bike I had no hesitation about repeating the 
choice of the SON (with the SL feature since the frame and fork were 
custom). 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 12:06:29 AM UTC-4, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> I was curious what folks experience are with the different dynamo hub 
> options.  The Schmidt Sonn Dynamo hub seem to set the standard but at a 
> high cost.  The other two I was looking at are Shutter Precision and the 
> Shimano Dynamo hubs.  Anyone seen a good comparison? Should I be concerned 
> with reliability if I went with something cheaper than the Schmidt hub?
>

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[RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

2020-05-13 Thread Austin B.

My first attempt at installing a new crankset on a square-taper BB went as
poorly as it could a few years back. The spindle lengths matter for what?
Here's how it went (*Bold are actions I took*, *italics are my thoughts as
best I can recall*):

1. *Shiny new drive-side crankset goes on the spindle. **Crank down the
bolt. Done. Terrific! That was easy!*
2. *Inspect by brilliant handy work. **Oh wait, why the heck isn't this
thing spinning? Crap--the small chainring is jammed against the
chainstay! Better remove the bolt and back it off.*
3. *Pulling and shimmying for a few minutes.* *This thing's on there
good! Better use the crank puller.*
4. *Crank puller fail.* *Oh crap, it's so tight it just stripped the
treads on my new crank! WTF??*
5. *Went to Google: *"how to remove square-taper crankset"
6. *Went to Amazon: order placed for pulling tool. **Yeah, this will get
it off.*
7. *Pulling tool arrives. **Pulling tool fail.** F#*k! This #$#%ing
thing just ruined my crank!*
8. *Facepalm. Desperation sets in--t**o the Dremel tool. **I just need
to get the damn thing off. Screw saving the crank.*
9. *After about 20-30 minutes of cutting into my alloy crank, it came
off the bike.** I'm NEVER using a square-taper BB again.These things are
cursed!*

For the record, I am actually mechanically-inclined and do all of my own
bike maintenance. But this was a blatant lack of understanding of these BB
on my part. And despite swearing off square-taper BBs, I am actually
running one on my Roadeo which I've installed successfully myself on two
different bikes.

Learning has occurred.

Austin in MD

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

FYI the “braking assistance” as they refer to it in the app can be adjusted for 
sensitivity or turned off altogether.  I happen to really like that feature as 
I rarely use my own brakes except when coming to a full stop at a light etc.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Hub Recommendations

2020-05-13 Thread Peter White

Several years ago, SP hubs were made by a company named KT. I don't know
when that business relationship ended but since it ended, SP hubs have been
made elsewhere. As far as I know, there is no SP factory as such. They are
all being made under contract with some hub manufacturer.

Since SP's relationship with KT ended, word is the quality has gone
downhill. One distributor I've gotten to know over the years has stopped
importing SP and only imports hubs manufactured by KT. The reason is the
extremely high return rate he was seeing for SP hubs due to various defects.

The Kasai hubs from Soma are KT hubs.

PJW

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 3:50 PM Tom Horton  wrote:

> re shutter precision vs kasai dynamo hubs, from what I can glean they are
> the same, or made in the same factory. I bought one from riv a year or so
> back and it has been fine. SON is a very pretty hub though and I've got a
> few.
>
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 12:06:29 AM UTC-4, Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>> I was curious what folks experience are with the different dynamo hub
>> options.  The Schmidt Sonn Dynamo hub seem to set the standard but at a
>> high cost.  The other two I was looking at are Shutter Precision and the
>> Shimano Dynamo hubs.  Anyone seen a good comparison? Should I be concerned
>> with reliability if I went with something cheaper than the Schmidt hub?
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Carradice Cadet and Junior Bags. Both black.