Re: [RBW] Re: Good weekend on the Hillborne

[brendonoid]

Oh that colour...
Can't wait to see more photos!


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Re: [RBW] Re: Good weekend on the Hillborne

[Jason Fuller]

I'm sure I'll be quite precious about locking it up for a while, but rest
assured I won't be precious about riding it!

On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 2:54 PM 'WilletM' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Even so, I'm guessing the odds of it becoming a garage queen are about as
> remote as some of the Vancouver backcountry huts that we'll be seeing it
> leaned up against in future pics.  Hope you remembered to get touch-up
> paint!
>
> Willet M.
>
> On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 1:14:24 PM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Wow Jason, that looks smoking!
>>
>> Great take on PG/SG, can't wait to see it built up again.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 11:26:55 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Funny you should mention that Willet... I just got home from picking the
>>> Bombadil up after a couple months away getting reborn...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 29 December 2021 at 09:30:34 UTC-8 wille...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Sounds as though the Bombadil might be doing a stint in rehab???
 Looking forward to seeing the eventual unveiling, which we know will be
 beautifully photographed (and probably involve a wooden rails-to-trails
 bridge in the backcountry and/or giant trees dripping with moss).

 Willet M.

 On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 12:32:19 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I know I've been lacking on adventure content on the Bombadil the past
> couple months. This is actually because the Bombadil is not available to
> ride right now... more on that in the new year but it's a good thing.
>
> But this past weekend I had a lot of good experiences with the
> Hillborne - there was a low-key organized gravel ride "CXmas" happening on
> the Sunday, but the weather looked terrible, so I chose to get out for a
> long-ish, road-ish ride on Saturday. 75km total with about 15km of gravel
> paths.
>
> [image: PXL_20211211_211628193.jpg]
> [image: PXL_20211211_214339886.jpg]
>
> But then I decided to get up early and go on the gravel ride
> anyway despite being a bit stiff and sore from the previous day. In my
> mind, I was going to ride to the meet point (coffee shop about 10km from
> home) and play it by ear.
>
> The ride started with a series of rooty, steep trails that connected
> through the neighborhood to the start of the forest. The route then
> followed a network of trails up the Seymour valley, which is the same
> valley featured in nearly all my Bombadil photos. The Hillborne was on
> extralight Babyshoe slicks, which are certainly a bit under-gunned for
> these trails but keeping mindful of that, no issues.
>
> [image: PXL_20211212_181408181.jpg]
>
> The rain started at the start of the ride, and became heavier as the
> ride went on. At the ~20km mark, the rain turned to snow. It snowed hard,
> and the snow was wet. It was a particularly slippery snow, but the gravel
> underneath provided enough traction most of the time - definitely had to 
> be
> careful though; spinning out when trying to pedal up hills reminded me
> there wasn't a lot of traction available.
>
> [image: PXL_20211212_200359035.jpg]
>
> By the time we reached the lake at the end of the valley, there was
> about 3" of snow on the ground and traction was so bad that even on flat
> ground, my pedaling did not result in forward motion at all. My fenders
> packed with the wet snow to the point that my wheels wouldn't spin when I
> pushed the bike, they just dragged. I was 30 km from home at this point 
> and
> 10km of it would be in these conditions. Wooops.
>
> [image: PXL_20211212_201142090.jpg]
>
> But thankfully, even though I was the only member of the group with
> slicks (and with tight fitting fenders), the group agreed that the paved
> path was too slippery to ride and we took the gravel service road (not 
> open
> to the public, but given the safety risks of the parkway, we felt we had a
> good argument if we got stopped); and I broke all the snow out of the
> fender with a stick (which I had to use once more before we got far enough
> out that conditions improved).
>
> [image: PXL_20211212_201627208.jpg]
>
> A good adventure with the "road bike" for sure!  I sure as heck love
> the Hillborne. I've had it 25 months now, and am nearing 6000 km on it
> which is the most mileage I've had on any bike - and I am as sure as ever
> that I would never sell this bike! There has never been a bike I could say
> that with such conviction before.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS or trade! Sackville Bagboy with Kangaroo pouch

[jamin orrall]

Bump! Price drop!

125 shipped

On Monday, December 27, 2021 at 3:59:38 PM UTC-8 jamin orrall wrote:

> For sale is a used Bagboy in grid grey (silver?) with kangaroo pouch.  Bag 
> has some beausage, some scuffs and stains that I haven't tried removing. 
> Overall it's in good shape.
>
> 135 shipped
>
> would also trade for Banana sack in silver.
>
> Thanks,
> Jamin 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Secret Platy

[Roberta]

Liz,

Your story is so exciting.  You've happily ridden a fabulous bike for 15 
years and now it's time for a change up.  Isn't the Clem L marvelous?  I've 
only ridden one for a short ride or two, but it was smooth, like a 
Cadillac.  I know it's "heavy" but it sure doesn't ride heavy.  I have a 
Platy for my step through and retirement (in a few years) bike, and if I 
had more room, I'd love to have a Clem L, too.  

So, welcome to the board and to being a RivSister!  Many happy miles of 
smiles, and be sure to post a bike picture if you can.  

Roberta

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 12:32:19 PM UTC-5 meti...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hello from a long-time Rivendell Atlantis rider/first time poster to this 
> group…and congratulations on your beautiful new Platypus, Leah. For more 
> than 15 years, I commuted 26 round-trip, hillyish miles to work two or 
> three days per week on my Atlantis; now I’m 63-years old, no longer 
> commuting to work, and my aging hips make it clear it’s time for a 
> step-through frame, so I entered the Clem lottery. Last week my new 
> Rivendell-built-up Clem arrived, and I fell head over heels at the first 
> pedal stroke. I thought I’d simply take it on an easy first ride to get the 
> feel of the new set up, but I returned home 10 miles later. Somewhere in 
> those miles, my anxieties regarding a longer-wheelbased, heavier bike 
> dissipated. I was sooo relieved.  
>
> This is just to say that I loaded this Clem with racks and baskets etc for 
> hauling …and because I feel the need to replace my Atlantis with a 
> step-through frame for lighter, more carefree rides, I, too, am eyeing a 
> Platypus. :) 
>
> I’ve enjoyed reading all of your posts here…they’ve been invaluable to me 
> as I’ve pondered how to age while continuing to ride an excellent and 
> beautiful bike; and I’m also so grateful for Will and James at Rivendell 
> for their continued reassurances that this 53cm Clem should, in fact, fit 
> 5’3” me. I was both excited and terrified at what would arrive on my porch, 
> and I’m elated that I already love it. 
>
> Liz in Cincinnati, OH
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:01:40 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> You all make a girl feel so good about these purchases. It is good to be 
>> among like minds! 
>>
>> I am really looking forward to seeing this bike in person, but it will be 
>> after the New Year when I get back from Christmas in Minnesota. And yes we 
>> are having a wild time snowmobiling in the meantime! 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 9:36 AM, Dorothy C  wrote:
>>
>> This is my defense 
>>
>>
>> http://bikeyface.com/2016/01/12/new-shoes/
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:52:12 AM UTC-8 Jingy wrote:
>>
>>> "No more bikes, ever. I’m set!"
>>>
>>> Famous last words!
>>> Nice bike!
>>> Jim In Mpls
>>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 10:33:28 PM UTC-6 JAS wrote:
>>>
 It's cool, it's you!  What a colorful bike, fun secret project and 
 exciting reveal; no doubt you'll have many happy miles hauling your 
 groceries and other stuff when the Michigan weather cooperates which could 
 be any day you aren't snowmobiling!  Congratulations, Leah.  I'm really 
 happy for you!

 #RivSisters,
 Joyce

 On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
> That new Platypus is the coolest!
>
> Love the color combos...
>
> You outdid yourself!
>
> Congrats and may you have many joyful and safe miles on Secret Platy.
>
> Paul in Dallas
>
> PS.
>
> I saw some of Garbaruk stuff on their site.
>
> Did most of the color parts come from Garbaruk?
>
> .
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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Andrew Huston]

The last Clem on that list is mine. Its a 52. I have bike ADD. 

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 11:53:51 AM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Clem Smith Jr. frameset: 64cm
> $1150
> Falls Church, VA
>
> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/annandale-64cm-clem-smith-jr-frameset/7426160232.html
>
>
> Cheviot, 60cm
> $2600
> Arlington, VA
>
> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/arlington-rivendell-cheviot-60cm/7426012618.html
>
>
> Bleriot frameset, 55cm
> $1100
> Tri-state area
>
> https://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/bik/d/longmeadow-rivendell-55cm-bleriot/7426118982.html
>
>
> Rambouillet, 58cm
> $1500
> Huntsville, AL
>
> https://huntsville.craigslist.org/bik/d/huntsville-rivendell-rambouillet-58cm/7412785968.html
>
>
> Clem Smith H, 52cm
> $2250
> Ann Arbor, MI
>
> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7409230769.html
>
>
> A. Homer Hilsen, 67cm
> $2100
> Pacific Beach, CA
>
> https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bik/d/san-diego-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7421910060.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne, 57cm
> $2600
> Pacifica, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/pacifica-rivendell-57-cm/7425643593.html
>
>
> A. Homer Hilsen, 64cm
> $3400
> Rohnert Park, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7423986655.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne, 59cm
> $2500
> Oakland, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/oakland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-double/7423806885.html
>
>
> Waterford Road Standard framset, 50cm
> $1450
> Fairfax, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/fairfax-wow-beautiful-1995-rivendell/7424865788.html
>
>
> Clem Smith L (no size listed)
> $2500
> Midland, MI
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>
>
> Romulus, 59cm
> $2000
> Meridian, ID
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/828474327784801
>
>

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[RBW] Re: The BOB Gazette - The Complete Archive

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for getting these scanned, Marty!

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 3:57:20 PM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, 
Stewartstown PA wrote:

> Thanks to several members of this Bunch and the iBOB group, we now have a 
> complete record of every BOB Gazette (and companion BOB Cat) published in 
> 1993 and 1994 - eight issues in all. 
>
> The story these tell - the ups and downs, the people who made it work, the 
> optimism and the defeat - paint a picture that stands the test of time. Of 
> course we all know where it led, but for now let's enjoy the journey Grant 
> (BOB #99) and others took us all on when life was simple. I highly 
> recommend reading them in order. Special thanks to BOB #717 for making this 
> record available, and Reed for hosting. I may have had a BOB # myself, but 
> it's long gone. Thankfully, the memories remain, and the archive below will 
> keep them fresh. Enjoy!
>
> BOB Gazette Archive 
>
> Marty Gierke
> Stewartstown, PA
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 55CM Bleriot with extras

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sold

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 12:43:35 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> I’ll bump this as it has the geometry charts now. 
>
> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 12:04:43 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Still available, here is the old Riv geometry, 
>>
>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html
>>
>> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/rivendell/bleriotgeometry.pdf
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 9:15:52 AM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Typo in body of print, it is indeed a Bleriot.
>>> On Monday, December 27, 2021 at 5:36:29 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Selling my 55CM Saluki that is a tad too big for me, I believe the 
 standover with Baby Shoe Pass 42mm tires is 31.75”. There are some light 
 scratches a d one large one where it appears the chain came off the small 
 cog.  No dents, was framesaved when built up.  

 I will post pics below this message, it may take a few messages. 

 No crashes, little use as it sat for 10 years after a car accident and 
 2 back surgeries till I stared to ride again after COVID hit.  I estimate 
 4-5,000 miles or less.  

 Where where sold stripped, added is a Shimano BB made in Japan, UN 91, 
 Suntour headset that was NOS when built, and Tektro R556 side pull brakes. 
  The steerer tube was left high when originally built up.  

 I will pack this very securely, so no worries there. 

 Ask question please.  If concerned on price please PM me.

 Asking $900 plus shipping. 

 Thanks, Joel

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Good weekend on the Hillborne

['WilletM' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Even so, I'm guessing the odds of it becoming a garage queen are about as 
remote as some of the Vancouver backcountry huts that we'll be seeing it 
leaned up against in future pics.  Hope you remembered to get touch-up 
paint!

Willet M.

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 1:14:24 PM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow Jason, that looks smoking! 
>
> Great take on PG/SG, can't wait to see it built up again.
>
> On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 11:26:55 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Funny you should mention that Willet... I just got home from picking the 
>> Bombadil up after a couple months away getting reborn... 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 29 December 2021 at 09:30:34 UTC-8 wille...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Sounds as though the Bombadil might be doing a stint in rehab???  
>>> Looking forward to seeing the eventual unveiling, which we know will be 
>>> beautifully photographed (and probably involve a wooden rails-to-trails 
>>> bridge in the backcountry and/or giant trees dripping with moss).
>>>
>>> Willet M.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 12:32:19 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 I know I've been lacking on adventure content on the Bombadil the past 
 couple months. This is actually because the Bombadil is not available to 
 ride right now... more on that in the new year but it's a good thing.  

 But this past weekend I had a lot of good experiences with the 
 Hillborne - there was a low-key organized gravel ride "CXmas" happening on 
 the Sunday, but the weather looked terrible, so I chose to get out for a 
 long-ish, road-ish ride on Saturday. 75km total with about 15km of gravel 
 paths. 

 [image: PXL_20211211_211628193.jpg]
 [image: PXL_20211211_214339886.jpg]

 But then I decided to get up early and go on the gravel ride anyway 
 despite being a bit stiff and sore from the previous day. In my mind, I 
 was 
 going to ride to the meet point (coffee shop about 10km from home) and 
 play 
 it by ear. 

 The ride started with a series of rooty, steep trails that connected 
 through the neighborhood to the start of the forest. The route then 
 followed a network of trails up the Seymour valley, which is the same 
 valley featured in nearly all my Bombadil photos. The Hillborne was on 
 extralight Babyshoe slicks, which are certainly a bit under-gunned for 
 these trails but keeping mindful of that, no issues. 

 [image: PXL_20211212_181408181.jpg]

 The rain started at the start of the ride, and became heavier as the 
 ride went on. At the ~20km mark, the rain turned to snow. It snowed hard, 
 and the snow was wet. It was a particularly slippery snow, but the gravel 
 underneath provided enough traction most of the time - definitely had to 
 be 
 careful though; spinning out when trying to pedal up hills reminded me 
 there wasn't a lot of traction available. 

 [image: PXL_20211212_200359035.jpg]

 By the time we reached the lake at the end of the valley, there was 
 about 3" of snow on the ground and traction was so bad that even on flat 
 ground, my pedaling did not result in forward motion at all. My fenders 
 packed with the wet snow to the point that my wheels wouldn't spin when I 
 pushed the bike, they just dragged. I was 30 km from home at this point 
 and 
 10km of it would be in these conditions. Wooops. 

 [image: PXL_20211212_201142090.jpg]

 But thankfully, even though I was the only member of the group with 
 slicks (and with tight fitting fenders), the group agreed that the paved 
 path was too slippery to ride and we took the gravel service road (not 
 open 
 to the public, but given the safety risks of the parkway, we felt we had a 
 good argument if we got stopped); and I broke all the snow out of the 
 fender with a stick (which I had to use once more before we got far enough 
 out that conditions improved). 

 [image: PXL_20211212_201627208.jpg]

 A good adventure with the "road bike" for sure!  I sure as heck love 
 the Hillborne. I've had it 25 months now, and am nearing 6000 km on it 
 which is the most mileage I've had on any bike - and I am as sure as ever 
 that I would never sell this bike! There has never been a bike I could say 
 that with such conviction before. 




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[RBW] The BOB Gazette - The Complete Archive

[Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA]

Thanks to several members of this Bunch and the iBOB group, we now have a 
complete record of every BOB Gazette (and companion BOB Cat) published in 
1993 and 1994 - eight issues in all. 

The story these tell - the ups and downs, the people who made it work, the 
optimism and the defeat - paint a picture that stands the test of time. Of 
course we all know where it led, but for now let's enjoy the journey Grant 
(BOB #99) and others took us all on when life was simple. I highly 
recommend reading them in order. Special thanks to BOB #717 for making this 
record available, and Reed for hosting. I may have had a BOB # myself, but 
it's long gone. Thankfully, the memories remain, and the archive below will 
keep them fresh. Enjoy!

BOB Gazette Archive 

Marty Gierke
Stewartstown, PA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rene Herse Barlow Pass tires 700c x 38

[Joe Mullins]

SOLD!

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 9:41:44 AM UTC-8 Joe Mullins wrote:

> Sale pending
>
> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 10:14:39 PM UTC-8 Joe Mullins wrote:
>
>> These have less than 50 miles on them. I decided to go with bigger tires 
>> so rather than sit around until the "next bike", I figure they'd best find 
>> a new home. They are the extra light version with tan walls. I'd like $120 
>> + shipping or local pickup in Los Angeles. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_1122.JPG][image: IMG_1121.JPG]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Good weekend on the Hillborne

[Jared Wilson]

Wow Jason, that looks smoking! 

Great take on PG/SG, can't wait to see it built up again.

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 11:26:55 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Funny you should mention that Willet... I just got home from picking the 
> Bombadil up after a couple months away getting reborn... 
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 29 December 2021 at 09:30:34 UTC-8 wille...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Sounds as though the Bombadil might be doing a stint in rehab???  Looking 
>> forward to seeing the eventual unveiling, which we know will be beautifully 
>> photographed (and probably involve a wooden rails-to-trails bridge in the 
>> backcountry and/or giant trees dripping with moss).
>>
>> Willet M.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 12:32:19 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I know I've been lacking on adventure content on the Bombadil the past 
>>> couple months. This is actually because the Bombadil is not available to 
>>> ride right now... more on that in the new year but it's a good thing.  
>>>
>>> But this past weekend I had a lot of good experiences with the Hillborne 
>>> - there was a low-key organized gravel ride "CXmas" happening on the 
>>> Sunday, but the weather looked terrible, so I chose to get out for a 
>>> long-ish, road-ish ride on Saturday. 75km total with about 15km of gravel 
>>> paths. 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20211211_211628193.jpg]
>>> [image: PXL_20211211_214339886.jpg]
>>>
>>> But then I decided to get up early and go on the gravel ride anyway 
>>> despite being a bit stiff and sore from the previous day. In my mind, I was 
>>> going to ride to the meet point (coffee shop about 10km from home) and play 
>>> it by ear. 
>>>
>>> The ride started with a series of rooty, steep trails that connected 
>>> through the neighborhood to the start of the forest. The route then 
>>> followed a network of trails up the Seymour valley, which is the same 
>>> valley featured in nearly all my Bombadil photos. The Hillborne was on 
>>> extralight Babyshoe slicks, which are certainly a bit under-gunned for 
>>> these trails but keeping mindful of that, no issues. 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20211212_181408181.jpg]
>>>
>>> The rain started at the start of the ride, and became heavier as the 
>>> ride went on. At the ~20km mark, the rain turned to snow. It snowed hard, 
>>> and the snow was wet. It was a particularly slippery snow, but the gravel 
>>> underneath provided enough traction most of the time - definitely had to be 
>>> careful though; spinning out when trying to pedal up hills reminded me 
>>> there wasn't a lot of traction available. 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20211212_200359035.jpg]
>>>
>>> By the time we reached the lake at the end of the valley, there was 
>>> about 3" of snow on the ground and traction was so bad that even on flat 
>>> ground, my pedaling did not result in forward motion at all. My fenders 
>>> packed with the wet snow to the point that my wheels wouldn't spin when I 
>>> pushed the bike, they just dragged. I was 30 km from home at this point and 
>>> 10km of it would be in these conditions. Wooops. 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20211212_201142090.jpg]
>>>
>>> But thankfully, even though I was the only member of the group with 
>>> slicks (and with tight fitting fenders), the group agreed that the paved 
>>> path was too slippery to ride and we took the gravel service road (not open 
>>> to the public, but given the safety risks of the parkway, we felt we had a 
>>> good argument if we got stopped); and I broke all the snow out of the 
>>> fender with a stick (which I had to use once more before we got far enough 
>>> out that conditions improved). 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20211212_201627208.jpg]
>>>
>>> A good adventure with the "road bike" for sure!  I sure as heck love the 
>>> Hillborne. I've had it 25 months now, and am nearing 6000 km on it which is 
>>> the most mileage I've had on any bike - and I am as sure as ever that I 
>>> would never sell this bike! There has never been a bike I could say that 
>>> with such conviction before. 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Secret Platy

[JAS]

Liz, congratulations on your Clem!  May you have many pleasurable miles 
whether for exercise, utility or leisure.  I'm another one of those 2-bike 
RivSisters.  I got a used Clem first and then the Platy a couple of years 
later; I love them both for many of the reasons Leah has explained.  I have 
the Clem set up to haul groceries and ride gravel trails.  The Platy is my 
"go-fast" bike that still might get a rack sometime.  Because I'm in the 
rainy (now snowy!) Pacific Northwest, they both have fenders as well.  I've 
had a hip replacement and find the step-through frame so convenient I'll 
never go back to a diamond frame.  As you know, these bikes are a delight 
to ride.

Keep dreaming about that Platy...

#RiveSisters,
Joyce

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 11:25:57 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> Dear Liz,
>
> I really cannot overemphasize how delighted I am to read your note. 
> Congratulations on a long track record of faithfully commuting on your 
> Atlantis. You are an example to us, #RivSister! Also, congratulations on 
> your retirement - may you have even more happy miles to fill the days.
>
> Let’s talk Clems and Platys. If you end up with both, you’ll join a 
> well-populated group of us (mostly women) who own a Clem-Platy pair. I am 
> not at all surprised that you adore your new Clem. I have said so many 
> times that bike feels like a hero and a hug. 2020 was one of the roughest 
> years of my life and that Clem got me through. It was honestly the best 
> thing I had access to in my grieving process. Because of that, I still 
> associate it with stress-relief, and that is the bike I ride when all is 
> not right in my world. Ah, but the Platypus. It’s a completely different 
> bike and just as essential. Not as convenient to put a leg through, but 
> convenient enough, and also gorgeous. Rides swiftly and easily. Good clean 
> fun! The Clem feels longer and plusher. You’ll fall in love with BOTH. And 
> please, do share your photos. We welcome them! ♥️
> #RivSisters,
> Leah
>
>
>
> On Dec 29, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Liz Tilton  wrote:
>
> Hello from a long-time Rivendell Atlantis rider/first time poster to this 
> group…and congratulations on your beautiful new Platypus, Leah. For more 
> than 15 years, I commuted 26 round-trip, hillyish miles to work two or 
> three days per week on my Atlantis; now I’m 63-years old, no longer 
> commuting to work, and my aging hips make it clear it’s time for a 
> step-through frame, so I entered the Clem lottery. Last week my new 
> Rivendell-built-up Clem arrived, and I fell head over heels at the first 
> pedal stroke. I thought I’d simply take it on an easy first ride to get the 
> feel of the new set up, but I returned home 10 miles later. Somewhere in 
> those miles, my anxieties regarding a longer-wheelbased, heavier bike 
> dissipated. I was sooo relieved.  
>
>
> This is just to say that I loaded this Clem with racks and baskets etc for 
> hauling …and because I feel the need to replace my Atlantis with a 
> step-through frame for lighter, more carefree rides, I, too, am eyeing a 
> Platypus. :) 
>
> I’ve enjoyed reading all of your posts here…they’ve been invaluable to me 
> as I’ve pondered how to age while continuing to ride an excellent and 
> beautiful bike; and I’m also so grateful for Will and James at Rivendell 
> for their continued reassurances that this 53cm Clem should, in fact, fit 
> 5’3” me. I was both excited and terrified at what would arrive on my porch, 
> and I’m elated that I already love it. 
>
> Liz in Cincinnati, OH
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:01:40 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> You all make a girl feel so good about these purchases. It is good to be 
>> among like minds! 
>>
>> I am really looking forward to seeing this bike in person, but it will be 
>> after the New Year when I get back from Christmas in Minnesota. And yes we 
>> are having a wild time snowmobiling in the meantime! 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 9:36 AM, Dorothy C  wrote:
>>
>> This is my defense 
>>
>>
>> http://bikeyface.com/2016/01/12/new-shoes/
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:52:12 AM UTC-8 Jingy wrote:
>>
>>> "No more bikes, ever. I’m set!"
>>>
>>> Famous last words!
>>> Nice bike!
>>> Jim In Mpls
>>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 10:33:28 PM UTC-6 JAS wrote:
>>>
 It's cool, it's you!  What a colorful bike, fun secret project and 
 exciting reveal; no doubt you'll have many happy miles hauling your 
 groceries and other stuff when the Michigan weather cooperates which could 
 be any day you aren't snowmobiling!  Congratulations, Leah.  I'm really 
 happy for you!

 #RivSisters,
 Joyce

 On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
> That new Platypus is the coolest!
>
> Love the color combos...
>
> You outdid yourself!
>
> Congrats and 

Re: [RBW] Re: Secret Platy

[Leah Peterson]

Dear Liz,

I really cannot overemphasize how delighted I am to read your note. 
Congratulations on a long track record of faithfully commuting on your 
Atlantis. You are an example to us, #RivSister! Also, congratulations on your 
retirement - may you have even more happy miles to fill the days.

Let’s talk Clems and Platys. If you end up with both, you’ll join a 
well-populated group of us (mostly women) who own a Clem-Platy pair. I am not 
at all surprised that you adore your new Clem. I have said so many times that 
bike feels like a hero and a hug. 2020 was one of the roughest years of my life 
and that Clem got me through. It was honestly the best thing I had access to in 
my grieving process. Because of that, I still associate it with stress-relief, 
and that is the bike I ride when all is not right in my world. Ah, but the 
Platypus. It’s a completely different bike and just as essential. Not as 
convenient to put a leg through, but convenient enough, and also gorgeous. 
Rides swiftly and easily. Good clean fun! The Clem feels longer and plusher. 
You’ll fall in love with BOTH. And please, do share your photos. We welcome 
them! ♥️
#RivSisters,
Leah



> On Dec 29, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Liz Tilton  wrote:
> 
> Hello from a long-time Rivendell Atlantis rider/first time poster to this 
> group…and congratulations on your beautiful new Platypus, Leah. For more than 
> 15 years, I commuted 26 round-trip, hillyish miles to work two or three days 
> per week on my Atlantis; now I’m 63-years old, no longer commuting to work, 
> and my aging hips make it clear it’s time for a step-through frame, so I 
> entered the Clem lottery. Last week my new Rivendell-built-up Clem arrived, 
> and I fell head over heels at the first pedal stroke. I thought I’d simply 
> take it on an easy first ride to get the feel of the new set up, but I 
> returned home 10 miles later. Somewhere in those miles, my anxieties 
> regarding a longer-wheelbased, heavier bike dissipated. I was sooo relieved.  
> 
> This is just to say that I loaded this Clem with racks and baskets etc for 
> hauling …and because I feel the need to replace my Atlantis with a 
> step-through frame for lighter, more carefree rides, I, too, am eyeing a 
> Platypus. :) 
> 
> I’ve enjoyed reading all of your posts here…they’ve been invaluable to me as 
> I’ve pondered how to age while continuing to ride an excellent and beautiful 
> bike; and I’m also so grateful for Will and James at Rivendell for their 
> continued reassurances that this 53cm Clem should, in fact, fit 5’3” me. I 
> was both excited and terrified at what would arrive on my porch, and I’m 
> elated that I already love it. 
> 
> Liz in Cincinnati, OH
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:01:40 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> You all make a girl feel so good about these purchases. It is good to be 
>> among like minds! 
>> 
>> I am really looking forward to seeing this bike in person, but it will be 
>> after the New Year when I get back from Christmas in Minnesota. And yes we 
>> are having a wild time snowmobiling in the meantime! 
>> 
>> Leah
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 22, 2021, at 9:36 AM, Dorothy C  wrote:
 
>>> This is my defense 
>> 
>>> 
>>> http://bikeyface.com/2016/01/12/new-shoes/
>>> 
>>> 
> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:52:12 AM UTC-8 Jingy wrote:
> "No more bikes, ever. I’m set!"
> 
> Famous last words!
> Nice bike!
> Jim In Mpls
>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 10:33:28 PM UTC-6 JAS wrote:
>> It's cool, it's you!  What a colorful bike, fun secret project and 
>> exciting reveal; no doubt you'll have many happy miles hauling your 
>> groceries and other stuff when the Michigan weather cooperates which 
>> could be any day you aren't snowmobiling!  Congratulations, Leah.  I'm 
>> really happy for you!
>> 
>> #RivSisters,
>> Joyce
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>> 
>>> That new Platypus is the coolest!
>>> 
>>> Love the color combos...
>>> 
>>> You outdid yourself!
>>> 
>>> Congrats and may you have many joyful and safe miles on Secret Platy.
>>> 
>>> Paul in Dallas
>>> 
>>> PS.
>>> 
>>> I saw some of Garbaruk stuff on their site.
>>> 
>>> Did most of the color parts come from Garbaruk?
>>> 
>>> .
 
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[RBW] Re: Large Susie

[Jared Wilson]

I noticed it last night, as well as DG and LO in XL still available.

Get 'em while you can folks!



On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 10:32:29 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Has anyone noticed the large Dark Gold Susie that is back on the Riv site 
> for sale? As fast as they went it seems crazy it hasn’t sold unless nobody 
> has checked! Already got mine :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Secret Platy

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

So happy to have more and more women riding Rivendell bikes.  Kudos to Leah 
and the many previous original Riv riders who have ridden and posted so 
many great pictures and stories about biking.  I found Riv because they 
made bikes large enough for me; but now I am proud to ride beautiful bikes 
that women have embraced as well.
How do I get Grant to design a 68cm Platypus.  Maybe I will grab a 64cm 
Clem L but I definitely don’t need a full build.  I have hoarding 
tendencies.

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 12:32:19 PM UTC-5 meti...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hello from a long-time Rivendell Atlantis rider/first time poster to this 
> group…and congratulations on your beautiful new Platypus, Leah. For more 
> than 15 years, I commuted 26 round-trip, hillyish miles to work two or 
> three days per week on my Atlantis; now I’m 63-years old, no longer 
> commuting to work, and my aging hips make it clear it’s time for a 
> step-through frame, so I entered the Clem lottery. Last week my new 
> Rivendell-built-up Clem arrived, and I fell head over heels at the first 
> pedal stroke. I thought I’d simply take it on an easy first ride to get the 
> feel of the new set up, but I returned home 10 miles later. Somewhere in 
> those miles, my anxieties regarding a longer-wheelbased, heavier bike 
> dissipated. I was sooo relieved.  
>
> This is just to say that I loaded this Clem with racks and baskets etc for 
> hauling …and because I feel the need to replace my Atlantis with a 
> step-through frame for lighter, more carefree rides, I, too, am eyeing a 
> Platypus. :) 
>
> I’ve enjoyed reading all of your posts here…they’ve been invaluable to me 
> as I’ve pondered how to age while continuing to ride an excellent and 
> beautiful bike; and I’m also so grateful for Will and James at Rivendell 
> for their continued reassurances that this 53cm Clem should, in fact, fit 
> 5’3” me. I was both excited and terrified at what would arrive on my porch, 
> and I’m elated that I already love it. 
>
> Liz in Cincinnati, OH
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:01:40 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> You all make a girl feel so good about these purchases. It is good to be 
>> among like minds! 
>>
>> I am really looking forward to seeing this bike in person, but it will be 
>> after the New Year when I get back from Christmas in Minnesota. And yes we 
>> are having a wild time snowmobiling in the meantime! 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 9:36 AM, Dorothy C  wrote:
>>
>> This is my defense 
>>
>>
>> http://bikeyface.com/2016/01/12/new-shoes/
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:52:12 AM UTC-8 Jingy wrote:
>>
>>> "No more bikes, ever. I’m set!"
>>>
>>> Famous last words!
>>> Nice bike!
>>> Jim In Mpls
>>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 10:33:28 PM UTC-6 JAS wrote:
>>>
 It's cool, it's you!  What a colorful bike, fun secret project and 
 exciting reveal; no doubt you'll have many happy miles hauling your 
 groceries and other stuff when the Michigan weather cooperates which could 
 be any day you aren't snowmobiling!  Congratulations, Leah.  I'm really 
 happy for you!

 #RivSisters,
 Joyce

 On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
> That new Platypus is the coolest!
>
> Love the color combos...
>
> You outdid yourself!
>
> Congrats and may you have many joyful and safe miles on Secret Platy.
>
> Paul in Dallas
>
> PS.
>
> I saw some of Garbaruk stuff on their site.
>
> Did most of the color parts come from Garbaruk?
>
> .
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[RBW] Large Susie

[Ryan Frahm]

Has anyone noticed the large Dark Gold Susie that is back on the Riv site 
for sale? As fast as they went it seems crazy it hasn’t sold unless nobody 
has checked! Already got mine :)

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Re: [RBW] BOB list, lost to me

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

It's been happening to a few people,  there's a couple of threads about it
here.
This one has Skip's email to contact to have you added back.
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/WFPsQuiauUM/m/Z8tmidi1AwAJ

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On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 11:38 AM  wrote:

> Hey all, I have seen people ask before but I can’t figure out the
> solution. I was a long time BOB list member before I was a Riv member but I
> can’t get back in or even find the list without an error message anymore.
> I’d like to list my MB-1 for sale there, can anyone tell me the secret
> handshake and or weblink I need to get back on the iBOB list?
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Frank Jones Sr is finally where I want it

[Jay Lonner]

At the risk of derailing the topic (pun semi-intended) the lack of IGH 
support on Rivs has become an issue for me. I had a Gus in my cart when 
they went on sale recently - my size, my color - but ultimately didn’t go 
through with it because I really like the Rohloff that I have on my Bike 
Friday. I know it’s possible to kludge it, but I’d prefer to have a bike 
that has the proper dropouts and brazeons to begin with. Anybody know of a 
maker who offers a frame with Hillibike features that’s designed to 
accommodate an IGH and disc brakes? The Tumbleweed Prospector and Surly 
Ogre come close but don’t have the long wheelbase. Riv’s designs are 
influential so I suppose it’s only a matter of time…

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 2:15:46 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Is it true that Grant has designed a new hillibike frame built around an 
> IGH? And that he's designing a new "Silver" line of IHG 2 speed fixed and 
> 3, 4, and 5 speed close, medium, and wide ratio hubs, called HilliHubs? 
> (Or, it might be HilliHubBubs).
>
> No, it's not true, but it's fun to imagine it.
>
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 11:44 AM nlerner  wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 12:45:51 AM UTC-5 Arthur Mayfield wrote:
>>
>>> I do believe you’re correct, at least I’ve never heard of one. I’ve 
>>> considered building up a Sturmey-hubbed 3spd wheel for my FJ, but finding a 
>>> nice 120mm OLD hub has been frustrating. Still keeping an eye out for one, 
>>> though.
>>>
>>
>> Hi, no need for a new hub. You can swap in a 6 1/4” axle (Sturmey part # 
>> HSA.108) on any AW hub and fit it to a frame with a 120mm rear end. You 
>> usually do also need a bit longer indicator to make up for the longer 
>> spindle. Here’s an axle for sale (not mine, just the result of a Google 
>> search):
>>
>>
>> https://www.hoopriderparts.com/product/sturmey-archer-hsa107-hsa108-axle-for-aw-ab-ag-hubs-5-34in-or-6-14in---nos
>>  
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Neal Lerner
>> Brookline MA USA
>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 6:37:48 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Looks awesome!  I love the Frank Jones Sr - and dream of building one 
 up with Sturmey drum brake hubs, 3spd - I think this is the only caliper 
 brake SS bike from Riv (correct me if I'm wrong!) so it's the ideal 
 candidate... 


 On Saturday, 25 December 2021 at 06:29:46 UTC-8 Arthur Mayfield wrote:

> After innumerable changes, I’m finally happy with the way FJ is set up 
> (yeah, I know). I have a Sam (caliper brakes) I need to devote some 
> attention to, and I’m still modding my old Bianchi Milano after 23 years, 
> lol. The FJ is a wonderful, simple, speedy frame, and after kitting it 
> out 
> with various wheel and tire combinations, single and double gearing, 
> racks, 
> bags, bells, and other assorted junk (for this bike, not all), I’m down 
> to 
> the minimal approach. Rims and hubs are VO, DT Swiss spokes, Soma tires, 
> PDW fenders (the best, truly), Tektro brakes, VO cranks, WI ENO 
> freewheel, 
> Nitto stem and bars, Brooks saddle, and VO bag. Zoom-zoom!
> [image: 5D679D5E-81DC-4D9D-8BCC-6506231289C2.jpeg] 
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[RBW] Re: FS: 55CM Bleriot with extras

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I’ll bump this as it has the geometry charts now. 

On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 12:04:43 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> Still available, here is the old Riv geometry, 
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html
>
> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/rivendell/bleriotgeometry.pdf
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 9:15:52 AM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>>
>> Typo in body of print, it is indeed a Bleriot.
>> On Monday, December 27, 2021 at 5:36:29 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Selling my 55CM Saluki that is a tad too big for me, I believe the 
>>> standover with Baby Shoe Pass 42mm tires is 31.75”. There are some light 
>>> scratches a d one large one where it appears the chain came off the small 
>>> cog.  No dents, was framesaved when built up.  
>>>
>>> I will post pics below this message, it may take a few messages. 
>>>
>>> No crashes, little use as it sat for 10 years after a car accident and 2 
>>> back surgeries till I stared to ride again after COVID hit.  I estimate 
>>> 4-5,000 miles or less.  
>>>
>>> Where where sold stripped, added is a Shimano BB made in Japan, UN 91, 
>>> Suntour headset that was NOS when built, and Tektro R556 side pull brakes. 
>>>  The steerer tube was left high when originally built up.  
>>>
>>> I will pack this very securely, so no worries there. 
>>>
>>> Ask question please.  If concerned on price please PM me.
>>>
>>> Asking $900 plus shipping. 
>>>
>>> Thanks, Joel
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New to me Saluki is in

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thank you Brian.  

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 12:32:43 PM UTC-5 brianmark...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> O my, that's a beautiful bike. Congrats!
>
> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 11:37:47 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> [image: D51C3EA4-FC57-49D7-B712-E8B116E73FE8.jpeg] 
>>
>> Joe & Jeff, thanks so much.  After selling my 56 as it was too big there 
>> were no more Salukis to be had,  I bought a Bleriot and will put it up for 
>> sale soon, I cleaned the frame up today and took pics of any scratches.  I 
>> have all of the parts minus the headset that I had on my first Saluki on 
>> this bike now.  They went on the Bleriot and are back home, although the 
>> original used side pulls and this one has cantis.  I’ve also changed from 
>> Albatross to Choco bars, all else remains the same.  
>>
>> Dave, those are Baby Shoe Pass, so even though they say 42mm they are a 
>> tad under 40mm.  I have a pair of Hetres as well, I used them for a couple 
>> of rides and may put them back on those rims when riding weather returns, 
>> they end up being about the same size as the BSP with a caliber.  
>>
>> Thanks again guys.  
>>
>> I’ll put a picture of my original Saluki above.  
>> .
>>
>> Joel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 8:54:04 PM UTC-5 David Hays wrote:
>>
>>> You're very welcome. Enjoy.
>>> The paint scheme is almost exactly the colours of my 2020 Mercian.
>>> What size tires does it take?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2021, at 3:59 PM, 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you David.  
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 1:46:37 PM UTC-5 David Hays wrote:
>>>
 Beautiful bike and build Joel.

 David

 On Dec 24, 2021, at 11:12 AM, 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 >>> front.jpg>Thanks to Johnny Alien I was able to get this frame


 sorry for the poor photo quality but the basement lighting is poor. 
 here is a quick look.

 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rene Herse Barlow Pass tires 700c x 38

[Joe Mullins]

Sale pending

On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 10:14:39 PM UTC-8 Joe Mullins wrote:

> These have less than 50 miles on them. I decided to go with bigger tires 
> so rather than sit around until the "next bike", I figure they'd best find 
> a new home. They are the extra light version with tan walls. I'd like $120 
> + shipping or local pickup in Los Angeles. 
>
> [image: IMG_1122.JPG][image: IMG_1121.JPG]
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[RBW] BOB list, lost to me

[luckyturnip]

Hey all, I have seen people ask before but I can’t figure out the solution. I 
was a long time BOB list member before I was a Riv member but I can’t get back 
in or even find the list without an error message anymore. I’d like to list my 
MB-1 for sale there, can anyone tell me the secret handshake and or weblink I 
need to get back on the iBOB list? 

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Fillet FacePlater Quill Stem 31.8

[Maxwell Olmos]

Hey y'all I finished a beautiful XO-3 and went with a dirt drop setup with 
bar ends. Only thing is my dirt drops are the remakes which are 31.8 clamp. 
So I got the Crust quill stem but its only a 60mm stem and the reach is 
very short now. I need an 85mm or 110mm.

https://www.rivbike.com/products/stem-546aah-l982kr

Does anyone have this stem in 85mm preferably or 110mm?

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[RBW] Re: My Frank Jones Sr is finally where I want it

[Patrick Kohout]

I love the style of your bike, Arthur. Which of the VO rims are you using 
on the bike? If you built the wheels yourself, what do you think of the 
build properties of the rims?

Best Wishes,
Patrick

On Monday, December 27, 2021 at 11:45:51 PM UTC-6 Arthur Mayfield wrote:

> I do believe you’re correct, at least I’ve never heard of one. I’ve 
> considered building up a Sturmey-hubbed 3spd wheel for my FJ, but finding a 
> nice 120mm OLD hub has been frustrating. Still keeping an eye out for one, 
> though.
>
> On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 6:37:48 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Looks awesome!  I love the Frank Jones Sr - and dream of building one up 
>> with Sturmey drum brake hubs, 3spd - I think this is the only caliper brake 
>> SS bike from Riv (correct me if I'm wrong!) so it's the ideal candidate... 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 25 December 2021 at 06:29:46 UTC-8 Arthur Mayfield wrote:
>>
>>> After innumerable changes, I’m finally happy with the way FJ is set up 
>>> (yeah, I know). I have a Sam (caliper brakes) I need to devote some 
>>> attention to, and I’m still modding my old Bianchi Milano after 23 years, 
>>> lol. The FJ is a wonderful, simple, speedy frame, and after kitting it out 
>>> with various wheel and tire combinations, single and double gearing, racks, 
>>> bags, bells, and other assorted junk (for this bike, not all), I’m down to 
>>> the minimal approach. Rims and hubs are VO, DT Swiss spokes, Soma tires, 
>>> PDW fenders (the best, truly), Tektro brakes, VO cranks, WI ENO freewheel, 
>>> Nitto stem and bars, Brooks saddle, and VO bag. Zoom-zoom!
>>> [image: 5D679D5E-81DC-4D9D-8BCC-6506231289C2.jpeg] 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 57cm Bleriot

[Fred Marsh]

Hmmm, I just finally put together a 57 Bleriot. It was pretty beat up when 
I got it. 
What don't you like about the Atlantis? It's unlikely I'd want to part with 
it, but maybe?
Send pics of the Atlantis, I'll post some of the Bleriot later today.

- Fred

On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 1:02:29 AM UTC-6 Drurad (Sacramento) wrote:

> Was really stoked on Joel's 55cm Bleriot recently put up for sale, but 
> after doing a deep dive in geometry charts I think it will be too small. 
>  My pbh is 83-84.  Anyone by any chance have a 57cm they would be willing 
> to part with?  Let me know.  I am currently riding a 2003 TOYO Atlantis in 
> 58 I would be willing to trade too.
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Andrew 
>

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Re: [RBW] Bar end vs Downtube

[Brian McDermott]

Downtube shifters are fine, but the main drawback as others have said is 
the reach. Definitely great if you're frequently changing out your cockpit. 

However, you just can't beat the accessibility of bar end shifters, 
especially if your bike is loaded. As for front end clutter, I'm a fan of 
running the cables all the way up under the tape so they exit by the stem, 
like your brake cables. 

On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 9:39:35 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I like Steven's suggestion of the stem mounted shifters, too...my only 
> concern would be running a front handlebar bag might be iffy with the cable 
> housings exiting the mount. I was pondering a switch to drops a few months 
> back and was considering the stem mount and Silver shifters because I 
> didn't want to do bar ends for some reason and kept talking myself out of 
> it because of bag interference. 
>
> I would never tell anyone not to make a choice on set up just on looks, 
> but for me I would not give up the convenience of bar ends for the looks of 
> DT. The juice ain't worth the squeeze. I'm tall, ride upright (the flats of 
> my noodle bars are level with my seat), and reaching the DT shifter would 
> be inconvenient for me unless I wanted to lower the bars and set it up for 
> more of an aggressive position,
>
> BUT...with all that said, you'll love whatever way you go. Congrats on a 
> new Homer! 
>
> Ben in Omaha
>
> On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 7:55 PM Jeffrey Arita  wrote:
>
>> This discussion is timely.  We've been using bar ends for so long now 
>> that shifting becomes instinctual.  However, I do use pretty decent sized 
>> 'U' cable housing so that shifting is smooth.  The housing/cabling can get 
>> in the way of handlebar bags, and as some have noted, it doesn't look the 
>> best although it is functional.
>>
>> I just might try Steven's suggestion.  Thanks everyone,
>>
>> Happy Holidays!
>>
>> Jeff
>> Claremont, CA
>>
>> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 4:45:22 PM UTC-8 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> After many years of riding nothing but bar end shifters, I have switched 
>>> to stem mounted shifters and find them very easy and convenient. They have 
>>> a simple cable run, especially if your cables run onnyour downtube. Either 
>>> hand can shift either derailleur. Worth considering. Steve
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 7:04 PM  wrote:
>>>
 Years back I bought a used Rambouillet that came to me with down tube 
 shifters. I rode it that way for a while just to see what I thought of 
 them 
 after at least a decade since the last time I used them.

 I can’t say they were horrible but I much prefer bar mounted shifters 
 since they make shifting easier and safer. I do like the look and the ease 
 of setup of down tube shifters but the ergonomics are lacking for me. I 
 ride a 58-60 cm frame.

 Robert Tilley
 San Diego, CA

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 24, 2021, at 11:01 AM, atreya...@gmail.com  
 wrote:

 I am debating bar end vs down tube shifters for the upcoming homer 
 build. I like the simplicity and aesthetics of down tube but concerned how 
 “inconvenient “ they could be given longish geometry of rivs. For non 
 racing and just riding for pleasure usecases does it matter .I am also 
 considering going downtube for FD and bar end for RD. If over time I find 
 downtube comfortable enough switch both to downtube . Would love to hear 
 groups thoughts and experience. 

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Re: [RBW] Creaky Creaks?

[Patrick Kohout]

Especially if your freehub body is aluminum, check to ensure there is not 
galling upon it caused by the cassette. 

On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 3:28:18 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> As was advised and you may want to double-check, make sure there's grease 
> in the seattube. Of course it may just be a new Brooks breaking in (if you 
> have one), those saddles used to drive me crazy until I adopted the same 
> position as minor rattles in my car: "Yep, that happens."
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 11:31:29 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Pedals are MKS but already checked and running fine. I have had the 
>> shoelace issue before though!
>>
>> I did the seatpost (which was tight) and the saddle clamp (which wasn't 
>> particularly) so will try & get out for a test ride before my positive 
>> COVID test from this morning kicks in!
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 1:19:32 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Now that you mention it, yes, I've had pedals cause this sort of 
>>> elusive cadence-related creaking or, in my case, more of a clicking. 
>>> In this case it was a pair of ancient Dura Ace SPD pedals, and I 
>>> solved the problem by regreasing them (simply unscrewed body from 
>>> bearing core, filled bearing space in body with grease, shoved 
>>> bearing/spindle core back in and tightened down: Robert 
>>> Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury's yer uncle! 
>>>
>>> One more tangential but wholly not-unrelated incident: I acquired a 
>>> sudden, rhythmic "click" while pedaling one particular bike, and could 
>>> not find the source. After long fretting, I tripped over the reason: 
>>> the aiglet on the slightly too-long lace of my left SPD shoe -- which 
>>> I had just started wearing in preference to the Velcro shoes I usually 
>>> wore -- was hitting the dt water bottle cage. 
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 11:48 AM Ryan  wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > or pedals if they're MKS ...had this happen to me twice 
>>> > 
>>> > On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 12:36:01 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote: 
>>> >> 
>>> >> I know, it seems very unlikely, but I've found bars and seatposts to 
>>> cause this sort of creak after long and anguished searches, and much to my 
>>> surprise. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 11:27 AM Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote: 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> BB was installed by Rivendell and looks to be typical of their high 
>>> quality work. 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> You know I thought seatpost, then thought...nah...but actually that 
>>> does make sense. Hex head in hand now. 
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Re: [RBW] From One Curious Photo . . . .

[Dan Bluestein]

Don't know about a printed copy of the Nat Geo issue, but scans of its two 
bicycling articles are online via this blog post:
https://blog.centurycycles.com/2013/11/a-look-back-at-bicyclings-past-with.html

Here's the Hemistour article:
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/118126270394701041949/album/AF1QipPLNY8TBUEF6HlYe-Rf1YTr6q2V6hbst6iqq9Q?feat=directlink

and here's the "Bicycles Are Back and Booming" article:
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/118126270394701041949/album/AF1QipPzC5izDN8D4hH2dytpnIXZljAOb0_PCIOS1sg?feat=directlink

- Dan

p.s. Hi everyone, I'm a new poster here, but have been lurking for a while 
as a Riv-curious former Bridgestone rider.

On Monday, December 27, 2021 at 3:45:08 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> Well, this is cool! Now, is someone other than me on the lookout for a 
> copy of the May 1973 Nat Geo article which features '26 pages about 
> bicycling'? That'd be a fun timepiece to see! 
>
> Thanks Garth!
>
> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 1:51:14 AM UTC+9 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I mean "multiple cogs" of course.
>>
>>
>> adding a freewheel to a Sturmey Archer hub
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] New to me Saluki is in

[Brian McDermott]

O my, that's a beautiful bike. Congrats!

On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 11:37:47 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> [image: D51C3EA4-FC57-49D7-B712-E8B116E73FE8.jpeg] 
>
> Joe & Jeff, thanks so much.  After selling my 56 as it was too big there 
> were no more Salukis to be had,  I bought a Bleriot and will put it up for 
> sale soon, I cleaned the frame up today and took pics of any scratches.  I 
> have all of the parts minus the headset that I had on my first Saluki on 
> this bike now.  They went on the Bleriot and are back home, although the 
> original used side pulls and this one has cantis.  I’ve also changed from 
> Albatross to Choco bars, all else remains the same.  
>
> Dave, those are Baby Shoe Pass, so even though they say 42mm they are a 
> tad under 40mm.  I have a pair of Hetres as well, I used them for a couple 
> of rides and may put them back on those rims when riding weather returns, 
> they end up being about the same size as the BSP with a caliber.  
>
> Thanks again guys.  
>
> I’ll put a picture of my original Saluki above.  
> .
>
> Joel
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 8:54:04 PM UTC-5 David Hays wrote:
>
>> You're very welcome. Enjoy.
>> The paint scheme is almost exactly the colours of my 2020 Mercian.
>> What size tires does it take?
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Dec 24, 2021, at 3:59 PM, 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you David.  
>>
>> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 1:46:37 PM UTC-5 David Hays wrote:
>>
>>> Beautiful bike and build Joel.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2021, at 11:12 AM, 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> front.jpg>Thanks to Johnny Alien I was able to get this frame
>>>
>>>
>>> sorry for the poor photo quality but the basement lighting is poor. here 
>>> is a quick look.
>>>
>>> 
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>>>
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[RBW] FS: Wooly warm seven button cardigan 2xl

[Slowmotionpony]

 Never wore it, I tried it on maybe 2 times. I’ve since boxed it back up 
the way it was sent to me. $100 shipped 

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[RBW] Re: Bar end vs Downtube

[Ben Adrian]

I love the idea of downtube shifters; simplicity, good looks, easy packing, 
disassembly, and repair, etc. However, as soon as I'm off road, bar-end 
shifters become much nicer and down tube is a giant pain.

Right now, I have downtube shifters on my Ram. However, I'm still getting 
my bars and stem length set up. Once I have a setup that I like, I might 
move my shifters. I think the plan is to just use DTs until they drive me 
crazy... then I'll switch ;)

Ben

On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 2:26:43 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> DT for front is great because it's an occasional reach for one or two big 
> shifts but I've never gotten along well with it for the rear, I run my bars 
> too high for the reach to work for me. It's probably fine if your bars are 
> at or below saddle level. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 11:01:06 AM UTC-8 atreya...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I am debating bar end vs down tube shifters for the upcoming homer build. 
>> I like the simplicity and aesthetics of down tube but concerned how 
>> “inconvenient “ they could be given longish geometry of rivs. For non 
>> racing and just riding for pleasure usecases does it matter .I am also 
>> considering going downtube for FD and bar end for RD. If over time I find 
>> downtube comfortable enough switch both to downtube . Would love to hear 
>> groups thoughts and experience.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Secret Platy

[Liz Tilton]

Hello from a long-time Rivendell Atlantis rider/first time poster to this 
group…and congratulations on your beautiful new Platypus, Leah. For more 
than 15 years, I commuted 26 round-trip, hillyish miles to work two or 
three days per week on my Atlantis; now I’m 63-years old, no longer 
commuting to work, and my aging hips make it clear it’s time for a 
step-through frame, so I entered the Clem lottery. Last week my new 
Rivendell-built-up Clem arrived, and I fell head over heels at the first 
pedal stroke. I thought I’d simply take it on an easy first ride to get the 
feel of the new set up, but I returned home 10 miles later. Somewhere in 
those miles, my anxieties regarding a longer-wheelbased, heavier bike 
dissipated. I was sooo relieved.  

This is just to say that I loaded this Clem with racks and baskets etc for 
hauling …and because I feel the need to replace my Atlantis with a 
step-through frame for lighter, more carefree rides, I, too, am eyeing a 
Platypus. :) 

I’ve enjoyed reading all of your posts here…they’ve been invaluable to me 
as I’ve pondered how to age while continuing to ride an excellent and 
beautiful bike; and I’m also so grateful for Will and James at Rivendell 
for their continued reassurances that this 53cm Clem should, in fact, fit 
5’3” me. I was both excited and terrified at what would arrive on my porch, 
and I’m elated that I already love it. 

Liz in Cincinnati, OH



On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 3:01:40 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> You all make a girl feel so good about these purchases. It is good to be 
> among like minds! 
>
> I am really looking forward to seeing this bike in person, but it will be 
> after the New Year when I get back from Christmas in Minnesota. And yes we 
> are having a wild time snowmobiling in the meantime! 
>
> Leah
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 22, 2021, at 9:36 AM, Dorothy C  wrote:
>
> This is my defense 
>
>
> http://bikeyface.com/2016/01/12/new-shoes/
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:52:12 AM UTC-8 Jingy wrote:
>
>> "No more bikes, ever. I’m set!"
>>
>> Famous last words!
>> Nice bike!
>> Jim In Mpls
>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 10:33:28 PM UTC-6 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> It's cool, it's you!  What a colorful bike, fun secret project and 
>>> exciting reveal; no doubt you'll have many happy miles hauling your 
>>> groceries and other stuff when the Michigan weather cooperates which could 
>>> be any day you aren't snowmobiling!  Congratulations, Leah.  I'm really 
>>> happy for you!
>>>
>>> #RivSisters,
>>> Joyce
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>>

 That new Platypus is the coolest!

 Love the color combos...

 You outdid yourself!

 Congrats and may you have many joyful and safe miles on Secret Platy.

 Paul in Dallas

 PS.

 I saw some of Garbaruk stuff on their site.

 Did most of the color parts come from Garbaruk?

 .

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[RBW] Re: Good weekend on the Hillborne

[Willet Mather]

Sounds as though the Bombadil might be doing a stint in rehab???  Looking 
forward to seeing the eventual unveiling, which we know will be beautifully 
photographed (and probably involve a wooden rails-to-trails bridge in the 
backcountry and/or giant trees dripping with moss).

Willet M.

On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 12:32:19 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I know I've been lacking on adventure content on the Bombadil the past 
> couple months. This is actually because the Bombadil is not available to 
> ride right now... more on that in the new year but it's a good thing.  
>
> But this past weekend I had a lot of good experiences with the Hillborne - 
> there was a low-key organized gravel ride "CXmas" happening on the Sunday, 
> but the weather looked terrible, so I chose to get out for a long-ish, 
> road-ish ride on Saturday. 75km total with about 15km of gravel paths. 
>
> [image: PXL_20211211_211628193.jpg]
> [image: PXL_20211211_214339886.jpg]
>
> But then I decided to get up early and go on the gravel ride anyway 
> despite being a bit stiff and sore from the previous day. In my mind, I was 
> going to ride to the meet point (coffee shop about 10km from home) and play 
> it by ear. 
>
> The ride started with a series of rooty, steep trails that connected 
> through the neighborhood to the start of the forest. The route then 
> followed a network of trails up the Seymour valley, which is the same 
> valley featured in nearly all my Bombadil photos. The Hillborne was on 
> extralight Babyshoe slicks, which are certainly a bit under-gunned for 
> these trails but keeping mindful of that, no issues. 
>
> [image: PXL_20211212_181408181.jpg]
>
> The rain started at the start of the ride, and became heavier as the ride 
> went on. At the ~20km mark, the rain turned to snow. It snowed hard, and 
> the snow was wet. It was a particularly slippery snow, but the gravel 
> underneath provided enough traction most of the time - definitely had to be 
> careful though; spinning out when trying to pedal up hills reminded me 
> there wasn't a lot of traction available. 
>
> [image: PXL_20211212_200359035.jpg]
>
> By the time we reached the lake at the end of the valley, there was about 
> 3" of snow on the ground and traction was so bad that even on flat ground, 
> my pedaling did not result in forward motion at all. My fenders packed with 
> the wet snow to the point that my wheels wouldn't spin when I pushed the 
> bike, they just dragged. I was 30 km from home at this point and 10km of it 
> would be in these conditions. Wooops. 
>
> [image: PXL_20211212_201142090.jpg]
>
> But thankfully, even though I was the only member of the group with slicks 
> (and with tight fitting fenders), the group agreed that the paved path was 
> too slippery to ride and we took the gravel service road (not open to the 
> public, but given the safety risks of the parkway, we felt we had a good 
> argument if we got stopped); and I broke all the snow out of the fender 
> with a stick (which I had to use once more before we got far enough out 
> that conditions improved). 
>
> [image: PXL_20211212_201627208.jpg]
>
> A good adventure with the "road bike" for sure!  I sure as heck love the 
> Hillborne. I've had it 25 months now, and am nearing 6000 km on it which is 
> the most mileage I've had on any bike - and I am as sure as ever that I 
> would never sell this bike! There has never been a bike I could say that 
> with such conviction before. 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Front, Neo-Retro Back?

['Sean, PNW' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The line of logic, as I understand it, is according to Paul, the 
'Neo-Retro' brakes are more powerful, yet pose heel clearance issues when 
used in the rear, so are most often relegated to the front where the bulk 
of stopping power is needed while their 'Touring' cantis fit better in the 
rear.

However, in my experience, Paul 'Touring' cantis have typically been more 
powerful than 'Neo-Retros', as addressed here:

*"So I would guess that the narrow-stance Touring Canti, if set up with a 
low straddle cable as described by Sheldon Brown...would actually be more 
powerful than the wide-stance Neo-Retro – the opposite of what the Paul 
site says." *- Lennard Zinn / 
https://www.velonews.com/gear/technical-faq-with-lennard-zinn-a-detailed-look-at-brake-shudder/

Regardless of the model, cantis of all flavors benefit heavily from proper 
set up:

https://blackmtncycles.com/get-the-most-out-of-your-canti-brake/





On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 10:25:00 AM UTC-8 Sam Perez wrote:

> A local mechanic reasoned that the touring canti has the same mechanical 
> advantage as the neo retros that were modeled after vintage canti’s , the 
> implication is they are equal. Something about the neo’s being more 
> sensitive to brake ware.   Can anyone verify  this?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:43 AM, iamkeith  wrote:
>
> I have that setup on a bike.   Like others have said, heel clearance was 
> the original consideration.  But the wide profile neo retro has more 
> modulation/subtlety to it, which is good for a front wheel.  The low 
> profile touring is more on/off binary, which is ok for a rear wheel.  But, 
> as others have said, the neo retro is quite strong and I HAVE done an 
> over-the-bars endo on that bike as a result.
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 10:17:23 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>
>> I have the same arrangement on my Bombadil. It was for pannier clearance 
>> as much as heel/leg clearance - my Bombadil is a later, longer chainstay 
>> version with less heel/leg clearance issues. I had originally bought the 
>> brakes for the Hubbuhubbuh, but changed it to Paul V-brakes and moved the 
>> Paul Cantis to the Bombadil.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 11:23:44 AM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> In this build, the brakes appear to be Paul touring cantis up front, and 
>>> neo retros in the rear. 
>>>
>>> I've seen this setup elsewhere, and I'm curious: what is the reason for 
>>> this setup? What are its advantages and disadvantages? Is the setup easier 
>>> to maintain, does it have better braking power, or is it just a personal 
>>> preference?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/braxtons-riv-custom-pre-fenders-and-lights
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Matthew Williams]

Clem Smith Jr. frameset: 64cm
$1150
Falls Church, VA
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/annandale-64cm-clem-smith-jr-frameset/7426160232.html


Cheviot, 60cm
$2600
Arlington, VA
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/arlington-rivendell-cheviot-60cm/7426012618.html


Bleriot frameset, 55cm
$1100
Tri-state area
https://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/bik/d/longmeadow-rivendell-55cm-bleriot/7426118982.html


Rambouillet, 58cm
$1500
Huntsville, AL
https://huntsville.craigslist.org/bik/d/huntsville-rivendell-rambouillet-58cm/7412785968.html


Clem Smith H, 52cm
$2250
Ann Arbor, MI
https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7409230769.html


A. Homer Hilsen, 67cm
$2100
Pacific Beach, CA
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bik/d/san-diego-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7421910060.html


Sam Hillborne, 57cm
$2600
Pacifica, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/pacifica-rivendell-57-cm/7425643593.html


A. Homer Hilsen, 64cm
$3400
Rohnert Park, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7423986655.html


Sam Hillborne, 59cm
$2500
Oakland, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/oakland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-double/7423806885.html


Waterford Road Standard framset, 50cm
$1450
Fairfax, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/fairfax-wow-beautiful-1995-rivendell/7424865788.html


Clem Smith L (no size listed)
$2500
Midland, MI
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672


Romulus, 59cm
$2000
Meridian, ID
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/828474327784801

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Frank Jones Sr is finally where I want it

[Arthur Mayfield]

Thanks, all, and thanks to *nlerner*—I bookmarked your link for project 
time…. Grant getting into IGHs would be awesome, but I haven’t seen any 
sign of that. He’s deeply involved in saving derailleurs from 
“shimanication.” Sadly (or maybe my prejudice is showing) I suspect that 
electrification is taking the bicycle world by overwhelming storm. OTOH, 
I’m getting older, so maybe a step-thru electric is in my two-wheeled 
future. Meanwhile I’ll hang onto my FJ single speed the way I hang onto my 
two seat roadster. 

On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 5:16:04 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Oh and yes, very nice build.
>
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 3:15 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Is it true that Grant has designed a new hillibike frame built around an 
>> IGH? And that he's designing a new "Silver" line of IHG 2 speed fixed and 
>> 3, 4, and 5 speed close, medium, and wide ratio hubs, called HilliHubs? 
>> (Or, it might be HilliHubBubs).
>>
>> No, it's not true, but it's fun to imagine it.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 11:44 AM nlerner  wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 12:45:51 AM UTC-5 Arthur Mayfield wrote:
>>>
 I do believe you’re correct, at least I’ve never heard of one. I’ve 
 considered building up a Sturmey-hubbed 3spd wheel for my FJ, but finding 
 a 
 nice 120mm OLD hub has been frustrating. Still keeping an eye out for one, 
 though.

>>>
>>> Hi, no need for a new hub. You can swap in a 6 1/4” axle (Sturmey part # 
>>> HSA.108) on any AW hub and fit it to a frame with a 120mm rear end. You 
>>> usually do also need a bit longer indicator to make up for the longer 
>>> spindle. Here’s an axle for sale (not mine, just the result of a Google 
>>> search):
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hoopriderparts.com/product/sturmey-archer-hsa107-hsa108-axle-for-aw-ab-ag-hubs-5-34in-or-6-14in---nos
>>>  
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Neal Lerner
>>> Brookline MA USA
>>>

 On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 6:37:48 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Looks awesome!  I love the Frank Jones Sr - and dream of building one 
> up with Sturmey drum brake hubs, 3spd - I think this is the only caliper 
> brake SS bike from Riv (correct me if I'm wrong!) so it's the ideal 
> candidate... 
>
>
> On Saturday, 25 December 2021 at 06:29:46 UTC-8 Arthur Mayfield wrote:
>
>> After innumerable changes, I’m finally happy with the way FJ is set 
>> up (yeah, I know). I have a Sam (caliper brakes) I need to devote some 
>> attention to, and I’m still modding my old Bianchi Milano after 23 
>> years, 
>> lol. The FJ is a wonderful, simple, speedy frame, and after kitting it 
>> out 
>> with various wheel and tire combinations, single and double gearing, 
>> racks, 
>> bags, bells, and other assorted junk (for this bike, not all), I’m down 
>> to 
>> the minimal approach. Rims and hubs are VO, DT Swiss spokes, Soma tires, 
>> PDW fenders (the best, truly), Tektro brakes, VO cranks, WI ENO 
>> freewheel, 
>> Nitto stem and bars, Brooks saddle, and VO bag. Zoom-zoom!
>> [image: 5D679D5E-81DC-4D9D-8BCC-6506231289C2.jpeg] 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Removing Paul studs

[sam . perez . 2002]

Joe is absolutely right, to re use. Especially in times like these, I managed 
to pull them off slowly with a pair of pliers and a silicone jar grip!


> On Dec 29, 2021, at 1:47 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> To reuse the ones he already has. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 12:20:52 AM UTC-8 vhans...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> Why?   The bushing is replaceable.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 19:12 Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>> I've never had to do it and apparently no one else here has, either, so 
>>> I'll offer advice: Big pliers in heavy towel, grab that raised edge so 
>>> you're off the smooth surface, squeeze gently and twist. Good luck! 
>>> 
>>> Joe Bernard
>>> 
> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 4:55:19 PM UTC-8 Sam Perez wrote:
> Hi all, 
> What’s the correct way to remove the Paul cantilever boss pivots. I’ve 
> not yet exhausted my options but I’d like to error on the side of caution 
> and preserve the smooth surface. 
> 
> Thanks! 
> Samuel 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Removing Paul studs

[Rob Kristoff]

Samuel, my two cents is to just call Paul. I'm sure they'll be able to tell 
you the exact procedure. They're very friendly that way.

RK




On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 7:55:19 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:

> Hi all, 
> What’s the correct way to remove the Paul cantilever boss pivots. I’ve not 
> yet exhausted my options but I’d like to error on the side of caution and 
> preserve the smooth surface.
>
> Thanks!
> Samuel 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Removing Paul studs

[Joe Bernard]

To reuse the ones he already has. 



On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 12:20:52 AM UTC-8 vhans...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Why?   The bushing is replaceable.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 19:12 Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> I've never had to do it and apparently no one else here has, either, so 
>> I'll offer advice: Big pliers in heavy towel, grab that raised edge so 
>> you're off the smooth surface, squeeze gently and twist. Good luck! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 4:55:19 PM UTC-8 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, 
>>> What’s the correct way to remove the Paul cantilever boss pivots. I’ve 
>>> not yet exhausted my options but I’d like to error on the side of caution 
>>> and preserve the smooth surface. 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>> Samuel 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Removing Paul studs

[Victor Hanson]

Why?   The bushing is replaceable.


On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 19:12 Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I've never had to do it and apparently no one else here has, either, so
> I'll offer advice: Big pliers in heavy towel, grab that raised edge so
> you're off the smooth surface, squeeze gently and twist. Good luck!
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 4:55:19 PM UTC-8 Sam Perez wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> What’s the correct way to remove the Paul cantilever boss pivots. I’ve
>> not yet exhausted my options but I’d like to error on the side of caution
>> and preserve the smooth surface.
>>
>> Thanks!
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