Re: [RBW] Lovely Blue Riv Custom

[Joe Bernard]

It looks like my custom with a higher toptube..same lugs, same fillet BB 
shell, same road fork crown, same clearances. Mine was designed as a 
light-ish street bike that could handle non-touring loads and non-gnarly 
trails, with plenty of clearance for fat tires or narrower tires with 
fenders. I suspect this person's bicycle will see all that clearance filled 
eventually. 

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 7:43:45 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:

> I really want to know more about this bike, Is it just an over sized 
> Homer/sam or what is going on here? It is beautiful but seems to have way 
> more clearance than is being utilised.
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: 51cm Sam or Joe: Hi Ho Silver is ideal!

[Robert]

Let me know! Also I am selling a 52cm Crust Romanceur if you are interested 
in purchase or trade! 

Thanks,
R.J. 

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Re: [RBW] Lovely Blue Riv Custom

[brendonoid]

I really want to know more about this bike, Is it just an over sized 
Homer/sam or what is going on here? It is beautiful but seems to have way 
more clearance than is being utilised.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 700c wheelset: Mavic Open 4CD, Wheelsmith straight gauge, Shimano 600 Tri-color 8-10sp.

[Andrew Turner]

Wheelset is sold! 

Tires are still available

On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 11:43:27 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Hello group! 
> Up for grabs is a really nice wheelset with Mavic Open 4CD rims, 
> Wheelsmith straight gauge spokes, and Shimano 600 tricolor hubs. The 
> original freehub body has been "updated" with a newer Shimano 8-10 speed 
> freehub body and both hubs have recently been repacked. 32 spoke front and 
> rear with unknown mileage, but the anodizing is still 96% fresh. There's a 
> streak starting to show on the rear so beausage is definitely on it's way. 
> Both wheels are also wrapped with tubeless tape to make an already easy 
> tire swap even easier. 
>
> $290 free shipping (conus)  
>
> Pictures can be found here: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/5q3GaT9EnzUh7yzt5 
>
>
> ALSO up for grabs are a pair of 700x28 Fairweather "for traveler" tires 
> with plenty of life left and relatively clean sidewalls. They look and feel 
> like RH standard casing tires.  
>
> $70 free shipping and I'll throw in several continental innertubes for 
> them. Pictures are also in that link.  
>
> Cheers! 
> Andrew
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Ryan]

That's a smashing looking build and I love the black and white photos. Also 
nice homage to those two priests riding their bikes.If you were going for 
classic and timeless, I'd say you nailed it.

On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 6:46:46 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:

> V.1 of my new Sam Build. 
> There are many like it, but this one is mine.
> Thought you guys might get a kick out of some photos:
>
>  [image: Edit-000317890012.jpg] [image: Edit-000317890013.jpg]
> [image: Edit-000317890011.jpg] [image: Edit-000317890001.jpg] 
> [image: Edit-000317890007.jpg] [image: Edit-000317890006.jpg]
>
> Taking these, I finished off a roll that I thought was color, but wasn't, 
> so here are few B cuz they exist:
>
> [image: Edit-000209690033.jpg] [image: Edit-000209690035.jpg]
>  [image: Edit-000209690036.jpg] [image: Edit-000209690034.jpg]
>
> This bike is an absolute hoot! 
> I've been loving it.
> Thanks to so many in the owners bunch for all the inspiration and 
> information.
>
> Any Los Angeles Riv-Riders out there want to go for a spin?
> k.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Ted Durant]

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 5:03:27 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

Busch & Muller make a fork crown mount specifically for cantis; 


Thanks, I've considered that. Peter White's site is invaluable for browsing 
the art of the possible with lights and mounts. I like the brass extension, 
though, because I like moving the light forward to reduce tire shadow. The 
standard short mount will be fine for this.

On other bikes I've mounted a Paul Gino to a right-angle piece bolted to 
the front end of the Nitto F-15 rack.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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Re: [RBW] Lovely Blue Riv Custom

[Ryan]

So did I for my A/R and Road. The mixte was pretty much all Riv-sourced as 
a complete build by Mark A and Rich-Lesnik built wheels... my retirement 
present to myself when I was flush enough to really push the boat out. I 
know that sounds indulgent but I don't regret it nor will I apologize for 
it. 

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 4:23:43 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I started with the proverbial "stuff I have" when I picked up my custom 
> frame 3 years ago, I think I was rolling on the stock 650B wheels from a 
> Clem. Later it got proper (non-disc) WI hubs laced to Velocity Atlas rims 
> by the great Rich Lesnik 
>
> On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 1:14:06 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Matthew...thanks for asking and Joe , thanks for answering...I was 
>> wondering that myself...my rear WI hub doesn't have that and since I own 
>> nothing with disc brakes I didn't even know what a naked disc-compatible 
>> hub looks likeBut you can see how the disc bolts on. 
>>
>> That bike almost begs for those madly expensive Onyx hubs...since I see 
>> the build is using what appears  to be a set of  Shimano CX-70 cantilevers. 
>> Or a garden-variety non-disc WI hub. ButI am nit-picking, I guess. If 
>> that's what I already had, given a bike north of ...8K at least
>>
>> On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 2:55:37 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Disc mount. Maybe he already had the hub on hand. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 12:36:55 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, that’s a beauty!

 What is this star-shaped thing with threads, on the rear wheel?

 [image: wheel_star_thingy.jpg]




 On Apr 15, 2023, at 10:09 AM, Ryan  wrote:

 Worth a look. The 2 Marks and Joe Bell have worked their usual magic.

 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/joshs-rivendell-custom?mc_cid=d5e44cc458_eid=0074b52ae1
  

 I wonder if the custom program will ever return. I know Riv says it's a 
 huge time and money sink, but I love seeing what people order for their 
 customs and ogling the fine craftsmanship on display. Josh, whoever he is, 
 must be thrilled after what was apparently a lengthy wait. But the result 
 was worth it, judging by the pictures. 

 Just sayin'

 Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Lovely Blue Riv Custom

[Joe Bernard]

I started with the proverbial "stuff I have" when I picked up my custom 
frame 3 years ago, I think I was rolling on the stock 650B wheels from a 
Clem. Later it got proper (non-disc) WI hubs laced to Velocity Atlas rims 
by the great Rich Lesnik 

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 1:14:06 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Matthew...thanks for asking and Joe , thanks for answering...I was 
> wondering that myself...my rear WI hub doesn't have that and since I own 
> nothing with disc brakes I didn't even know what a naked disc-compatible 
> hub looks likeBut you can see how the disc bolts on. 
>
> That bike almost begs for those madly expensive Onyx hubs...since I see 
> the build is using what appears  to be a set of  Shimano CX-70 cantilevers. 
> Or a garden-variety non-disc WI hub. ButI am nit-picking, I guess. If 
> that's what I already had, given a bike north of ...8K at least
>
> On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 2:55:37 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Disc mount. Maybe he already had the hub on hand. 
>>
>> On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 12:36:55 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, that’s a beauty!
>>>
>>> What is this star-shaped thing with threads, on the rear wheel?
>>>
>>> [image: wheel_star_thingy.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2023, at 10:09 AM, Ryan  wrote:
>>>
>>> Worth a look. The 2 Marks and Joe Bell have worked their usual magic.
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/joshs-rivendell-custom?mc_cid=d5e44cc458_eid=0074b52ae1
>>>  
>>>
>>> I wonder if the custom program will ever return. I know Riv says it's a 
>>> huge time and money sink, but I love seeing what people order for their 
>>> customs and ogling the fine craftsmanship on display. Josh, whoever he is, 
>>> must be thrilled after what was apparently a lengthy wait. But the result 
>>> was worth it, judging by the pictures. 
>>>
>>> Just sayin'
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Peter Adler]

Busch & Muller make a fork crown mount specifically for cantis; it's made 
of the same stainless rod. Instead of going upwards like the standard B 
mount you have now, it drops down about 1 cm below the brake hole to dip 
under the straddle; not great for fenders, but an LA bike can probably live 
fenderless most years. It'll drop the light down maybe 3-4 cm from it's 
current position.

I got one a while back from Peter White Cycles, when I was getting my Luxos 
U replaced under warranty and got some extra stuff to capitalize on the 
shipping:

B   Busch & Müller Cyo cantilever mount   $10.00 

https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/b

I think a better bet is to move the mount out in front of the bag, if at 
all possible, or at least out of the plane of the obstructing bag. My 
normal preference would be to mount it at the front of the rack, as I 
usually have a supporting rack for a handlebar bag; but the Nitto F18 
rack/Ostrich bag setup you're using doesn't lend itself to such 
attachments. Perhaps a better option is to mount one of those 
handlebar-substitute posts to the midfork braze-on, and mount the light 
there; it gets the light patch further out into the roadway (if you attach 
it to the left fork blade) or further onto the shoulder (if you attach it 
to the right fork blade). depending on where you ride; it gets the light 
low enough that you won't be blasting oncoming traffic in their eyes, and 
it gets it far enough away from the wheel that you shouldn't have a big 
shadow in the light patch. The Paul Gino 

 
is the mount I originally knew (and you can get it anodized in a green 
that's pretty close to your paint), but I bought a Nitto M12 at a swap on 
which the seller had included an equivalent Nitto mount that did the same 
thing. I can't locate that mount for sale right now, so it may have been 
discontinued, but you might turn one up from the usual old-stuff-for-sale 
sources. Here's another Nitto mount in the same design 
; 
this one replaces the nut on a quick release skewer.

I take it the Selle An-Atomica is a fairly recent purchase? I was really 
disappointed about six years ago when they replaced the Honey color with 
the more mottled honey+brown Tool color. In my last SA-A end-of-year sale 
buying binge (Xmas 2021), I gritted my teeth and got a Tool H2 because it's 
what they had. I'm glad to see that the Tool color has gotten more 
honey-ish; maybe if I send my stretched-out 2013 honey X1 back for a new 
top, I'll get something that's approximately the same color, assuming 
they're willing to make a top in the older, longer form.

Peter "it's hard to keep all the SA-A variants straight sometimes" Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 7:16:22 PM UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:

The brass bits are nice but if you just bend the original light mount a bit 
it would fit under the straddle cable and do the job nicely.

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Re: [RBW] Lovely Blue Riv Custom

[Ryan]

Matthew...thanks for asking and Joe , thanks for answering...I was 
wondering that myself...my rear WI hub doesn't have that and since I own 
nothing with disc brakes I didn't even know what a naked disc-compatible 
hub looks likeBut you can see how the disc bolts on. 

That bike almost begs for those madly expensive Onyx hubs...since I see the 
build is using what appears  to be a set of  Shimano CX-70 cantilevers. Or 
a garden-variety non-disc WI hub. ButI am nit-picking, I guess. If 
that's what I already had, given a bike north of ...8K at least

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 2:55:37 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Disc mount. Maybe he already had the hub on hand. 
>
> On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 12:36:55 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Yeah, that’s a beauty!
>>
>> What is this star-shaped thing with threads, on the rear wheel?
>>
>> [image: wheel_star_thingy.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2023, at 10:09 AM, Ryan  wrote:
>>
>> Worth a look. The 2 Marks and Joe Bell have worked their usual magic.
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/joshs-rivendell-custom?mc_cid=d5e44cc458_eid=0074b52ae1
>>  
>>
>> I wonder if the custom program will ever return. I know Riv says it's a 
>> huge time and money sink, but I love seeing what people order for their 
>> customs and ogling the fine craftsmanship on display. Josh, whoever he is, 
>> must be thrilled after what was apparently a lengthy wait. But the result 
>> was worth it, judging by the pictures. 
>>
>> Just sayin'
>>
>> Ryan
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Son Hub advice

[Patrick Moore]

Laing: Curious: How does the SA Dynohub (tm) perform in powering a modern
LED headlight compared to modern dynohubs? Can you get full LED headlamp
brightness at a modest cruising speed, say 12-15 mph?

I once owned both a front Dynohub (tm) and a combo rear AW + Dynohub (tm);
both were damned heavy, but the rear combo must have weighed 10 lb, all in
nice, shiny steel. I wish I'd kept the combo hub.

Patrick Moore, who has owned many bikes with QR disk brake wheels and had
no problems with any of them.


On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 8:25 AM lconley  wrote:

> ...
> Laing, Who owns ... one Sturmey Archer OG drum brake Dynohub ...
>

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Re: [RBW] Lovely Blue Riv Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Disc mount. Maybe he already had the hub on hand. 

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 12:36:55 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Yeah, that’s a beauty!
>
> What is this star-shaped thing with threads, on the rear wheel?
>
> [image: wheel_star_thingy.jpg]
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2023, at 10:09 AM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> Worth a look. The 2 Marks and Joe Bell have worked their usual magic.
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/joshs-rivendell-custom?mc_cid=d5e44cc458_eid=0074b52ae1
>  
>
> I wonder if the custom program will ever return. I know Riv says it's a 
> huge time and money sink, but I love seeing what people order for their 
> customs and ogling the fine craftsmanship on display. Josh, whoever he is, 
> must be thrilled after what was apparently a lengthy wait. But the result 
> was worth it, judging by the pictures. 
>
> Just sayin'
>
> Ryan
>
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Re: [RBW] Timeline for a Repaint (for a friend)

[Leah Peterson]

Ah! What a thrilling answer, Matthew! I am so happy and relieved that it seems to be weeks and NOT months that she will have to wait. Wonderful, and thank you!On Apr 15, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Matthew Williams  wrote:Finally, a question I can help answer!Back in October, Rick at D painted my forks and he did a fantastic job. RBW advised me to expect a four-week backlog; Rick said the turnaround was about two to three weeks.Rick sandblasted my forks, matched the color, he added an accent I wanted, and gave me a small bottle of touch-up paint. I picked up my forks about ten days after I dropped them off.My forks were a small project (as opposed to an entire frame) and I can’t speak for Rick's schedule, but I can say I couldn’t be happier with the finshed result. Rick is amazing. On Apr 15, 2023, at 5:46 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:No, not for me, I love my paint! But my new RivSister friend acquired a 55 cm mermaid Platypus and she, like Heather (who dreamt of pumpkin) and me (who coveted raspberry), can only be truly, sublimely happy if her Platy is a lemon meringue yellow (with a bit of metallic). She will take her frame to D but hasn’t actually been able to arrange this yet. She was hoping it could be done rather quickly, but I suspect there will be a wait. Can anyone here, who has had a Rick-Repaint, please advise as to timeline? Are we talking weeks? Months? Several months? We would MOST appreciate your input! Thanks in advance,Leah

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[RBW] Lovely Blue Riv Custom

[Ryan]

Worth a look. The 2 Marks and Joe Bell have worked their usual magic.
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/joshs-rivendell-custom?mc_cid=d5e44cc458_eid=0074b52ae1
 

I wonder if the custom program will ever return. I know Riv says it's a 
huge time and money sink, but I love seeing what people order for their 
customs and ogling the fine craftsmanship on display. Josh, whoever he is, 
must be thrilled after what was apparently a lengthy wait. But the result 
was worth it, judging by the pictures. 

Just sayin'

Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Timeline for a Repaint (for a friend)

[Matthew Williams]

Finally, a question I can help answer!

Back in October, Rick at D painted my forks and he did a fantastic job. RBW 
advised me to expect a four-week backlog; Rick said the turnaround was about 
two to three weeks.

Rick sandblasted my forks, matched the color, he added an accent I wanted, and 
gave me a small bottle of touch-up paint. I picked up my forks about ten days 
after I dropped them off.

My forks were a small project (as opposed to an entire frame) and I can’t speak 
for Rick's schedule, but I can say I couldn’t be happier with the finshed 
result. Rick is amazing. 



> On Apr 15, 2023, at 5:46 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, not for me, I love my paint! But my new RivSister friend acquired a 55 cm 
> mermaid Platypus and she, like Heather (who dreamt of pumpkin) and me (who 
> coveted raspberry), can only be truly, sublimely happy if her Platy is a 
> lemon meringue yellow (with a bit of metallic). 
> 
> She will take her frame to D but hasn’t actually been able to arrange this 
> yet. She was hoping it could be done rather quickly, but I suspect there will 
> be a wait. Can anyone here, who has had a Rick-Repaint, please advise as to 
> timeline? Are we talking weeks? Months? Several months? 
> 
> We would MOST appreciate your input! 
> Thanks in advance,
> Leah
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[RBW] Re: Son Hub advice

[Mr. Ray]

Like others have said, get the hub for the brakes you use.  If you still 
want to "future proof", get the SON disc hub for Shimano "centerlock" 
discs.  It provides a slightly stronger wheel build than the "6 bolt ISO" 
disc version; spokes closer to equal on both sides.  Also pick the 12mm 
thru axle version.  With an adaptor you can make this version work with 
QR's.
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 10:25:05 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> Disc brakes with quick release hubs are a PITA.  Get the widest SON 
> non-disc hub that that you can afford.
> But remember, this advice is coming from an overweight guy who builds new 
> wheels for himself several times a year, so I go all-in on wheel strength, 
> I have a huge parts stash, and I know that obsolete parts are just an eBay 
> search away.
>
> Peter White, the generator hub guru, is the importer for SON hubs and also 
> sells Panasonic generator hubs (until his current stock sells out) $60 for 
> non disc, $70 for disc. You could build two Panasonic hubbed wheels for the 
> price of a SON hubbed wheel if you wanted. But get the wide SON hub wheel.
>
> Laing
> Who owns four SON hubs (1 disc), two Shimano generator hubs,  one Shutter 
> Precision disc generator hub, one Sturmey Archer OG drum brake Dynohub, one 
> Panasonic disc Dyna Hub, one Sanyo bottom bracket mounted generator, one 
> Flying Pigeon OE bottle generator, and one VO sourced generator hub (that 
> doesn't play well with LED lights) that I cannot remember the manufacturer 
> of.
>
> On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 7:47:32 AM UTC-4 peter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> I'm looking to get the Son dynamo hub. Considering it's price I'd rather 
>> make an informed (still quite impulsive) decision..hah!
>>
>> I have a bike with both rim and disc brake mounts (with QR) so I usually 
>> buy disc hubs, to future proof the hub purchase, but continue to run 
>> v-brakes (for now). Is this a sound approach to continue with this buy i.e. 
>> disc hubs with v-brake rims?
>>
>> Based on SON's website, I think Son28 would be appropriate considering 
>> it's better to charge devices at low speeds. So, in this case I would take 
>> the "SON 28 Hub Dynamo - 6-Bolt - QR".
>>
>> Thank you for your insight!
>> Peter
>>
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[RBW] Re: Son Hub advice

[lconley]

Disc brakes with quick release hubs are a PITA.  Get the widest SON 
non-disc hub that that you can afford.
But remember, this advice is coming from an overweight guy who builds new 
wheels for himself several times a year, so I go all-in on wheel strength, 
I have a huge parts stash, and I know that obsolete parts are just an eBay 
search away.

Peter White, the generator hub guru, is the importer for SON hubs and also 
sells Panasonic generator hubs (until his current stock sells out) $60 for 
non disc, $70 for disc. You could build two Panasonic hubbed wheels for the 
price of a SON hubbed wheel if you wanted. But get the wide SON hub wheel.

Laing
Who owns four SON hubs (1 disc), two Shimano generator hubs,  one Shutter 
Precision disc generator hub, one Sturmey Archer OG drum brake Dynohub, one 
Panasonic disc Dyna Hub, one Sanyo bottom bracket mounted generator, one 
Flying Pigeon OE bottle generator, and one VO sourced generator hub (that 
doesn't play well with LED lights) that I cannot remember the manufacturer 
of.

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 7:47:32 AM UTC-4 peter...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, 
>
> I'm looking to get the Son dynamo hub. Considering it's price I'd rather 
> make an informed (still quite impulsive) decision..hah!
>
> I have a bike with both rim and disc brake mounts (with QR) so I usually 
> buy disc hubs, to future proof the hub purchase, but continue to run 
> v-brakes (for now). Is this a sound approach to continue with this buy i.e. 
> disc hubs with v-brake rims?
>
> Based on SON's website, I think Son28 would be appropriate considering 
> it's better to charge devices at low speeds. So, in this case I would take 
> the "SON 28 Hub Dynamo - 6-Bolt - QR".
>
> Thank you for your insight!
> Peter
>

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Re: [RBW] Son Hub advice

[Brian Turner]

If you're thinking about "future proof", I'd just add this: it's getting
more and more rare to find new disc brake bikes with QR, so if it were me,
I would feel a bit limited with a QR disc wheelset these days. Most
everything disc is going to thru-axle. I'd get the hub for the brakes
you're riding most, IMO.

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 10:01 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I would agree with this. I've ridden plenty of discs (mechanical and
> hydraulic) and always end up back at my trusty v-brakes that are easy set
> up and don't scrape or squeal, I'd get the hub I like for the brakes I'm
> using now.
>
> On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 6:15:34 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:
>
>> Personally, I would just get what you really want without thought of
>> "future proof."
>>
>> Bill S
>> San Diego
>>
>> On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 5:42:53 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Disc hubs typically don't have the flange spacing as wide as a non-disc
>>> hub. On a disc wheel, having the rim flexing from side to side isn't a
>>> problem. But with rim brakes if the rim is flexing side to side it will be
>>> rubbing on the brake pads, especially if you run your pads close to the
>>> rim, as I do. So yes, you can certainly use a disc hub with rim brakes, but
>>> it isn't ideal, unless you're a very light rider. For example, Linda and I
>>> both have SON Deluxe hubs on our road bikes. I weigh about 40lbs more than
>>> Linda. I use the Wide Body version and she uses the standard SON Deluxe.
>>> Neither of us need to charge any electronics while we ride, so we don't use
>>> the slightly heavier SON 28 hubs.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 7:47 AM Peter Fray  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I'm looking to get the Son dynamo hub. Considering it's price I'd
 rather make an informed (still quite impulsive) decision..hah!

 I have a bike with both rim and disc brake mounts (with QR) so I
 usually buy disc hubs, to future proof the hub purchase, but continue to
 run v-brakes (for now). Is this a sound approach to continue with this buy
 i.e. disc hubs with v-brake rims?

 Based on SON's website, I think Son28 would be appropriate considering
 it's better to charge devices at low speeds. So, in this case I would take
 the "SON 28 Hub Dynamo - 6-Bolt - QR".

 Thank you for your insight!
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Re: [RBW] Son Hub advice

[Joe Bernard]

I would agree with this. I've ridden plenty of discs (mechanical and 
hydraulic) and always end up back at my trusty v-brakes that are easy set 
up and don't scrape or squeal, I'd get the hub I like for the brakes I'm 
using now. 

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 6:15:34 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:

> Personally, I would just get what you really want without thought of 
> "future proof."
>
> Bill S 
> San Diego
>
> On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 5:42:53 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Disc hubs typically don't have the flange spacing as wide as a non-disc 
>> hub. On a disc wheel, having the rim flexing from side to side isn't a 
>> problem. But with rim brakes if the rim is flexing side to side it will be 
>> rubbing on the brake pads, especially if you run your pads close to the 
>> rim, as I do. So yes, you can certainly use a disc hub with rim brakes, but 
>> it isn't ideal, unless you're a very light rider. For example, Linda and I 
>> both have SON Deluxe hubs on our road bikes. I weigh about 40lbs more than 
>> Linda. I use the Wide Body version and she uses the standard SON Deluxe. 
>> Neither of us need to charge any electronics while we ride, so we don't use 
>> the slightly heavier SON 28 hubs.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 7:47 AM Peter Fray  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, 
>>>
>>> I'm looking to get the Son dynamo hub. Considering it's price I'd rather 
>>> make an informed (still quite impulsive) decision..hah!
>>>
>>> I have a bike with both rim and disc brake mounts (with QR) so I usually 
>>> buy disc hubs, to future proof the hub purchase, but continue to run 
>>> v-brakes (for now). Is this a sound approach to continue with this buy i.e. 
>>> disc hubs with v-brake rims?
>>>
>>> Based on SON's website, I think Son28 would be appropriate considering 
>>> it's better to charge devices at low speeds. So, in this case I would take 
>>> the "SON 28 Hub Dynamo - 6-Bolt - QR".
>>>
>>> Thank you for your insight!
>>> Peter
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Son Hub advice

[Bill Schairer]

Personally, I would just get what you really want without thought of 
"future proof."

Bill S 
San Diego

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 5:42:53 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:

> Disc hubs typically don't have the flange spacing as wide as a non-disc 
> hub. On a disc wheel, having the rim flexing from side to side isn't a 
> problem. But with rim brakes if the rim is flexing side to side it will be 
> rubbing on the brake pads, especially if you run your pads close to the 
> rim, as I do. So yes, you can certainly use a disc hub with rim brakes, but 
> it isn't ideal, unless you're a very light rider. For example, Linda and I 
> both have SON Deluxe hubs on our road bikes. I weigh about 40lbs more than 
> Linda. I use the Wide Body version and she uses the standard SON Deluxe. 
> Neither of us need to charge any electronics while we ride, so we don't use 
> the slightly heavier SON 28 hubs.
>
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 7:47 AM Peter Fray  wrote:
>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> I'm looking to get the Son dynamo hub. Considering it's price I'd rather 
>> make an informed (still quite impulsive) decision..hah!
>>
>> I have a bike with both rim and disc brake mounts (with QR) so I usually 
>> buy disc hubs, to future proof the hub purchase, but continue to run 
>> v-brakes (for now). Is this a sound approach to continue with this buy i.e. 
>> disc hubs with v-brake rims?
>>
>> Based on SON's website, I think Son28 would be appropriate considering 
>> it's better to charge devices at low speeds. So, in this case I would take 
>> the "SON 28 Hub Dynamo - 6-Bolt - QR".
>>
>> Thank you for your insight!
>> Peter
>>
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[RBW] Timeline for a Repaint (for a friend)

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

No, not for me, I love my paint! But my new RivSister friend acquired a 55 
cm mermaid Platypus and she, like Heather (who dreamt of pumpkin) and me 
(who coveted raspberry), can only be truly, sublimely happy if her Platy is 
a lemon meringue yellow (with a bit of metallic). 

She will take her frame to D but hasn’t actually been able to arrange 
this yet. She was hoping it could be done rather quickly, but I suspect 
there will be a wait. Can anyone here, who has had a Rick-Repaint, please 
advise as to timeline? Are we talking weeks? Months? Several months? 

We would MOST appreciate your input! 
Thanks in advance,
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Re: [RBW] Son Hub advice

[Peter White]

Disc hubs typically don't have the flange spacing as wide as a non-disc
hub. On a disc wheel, having the rim flexing from side to side isn't a
problem. But with rim brakes if the rim is flexing side to side it will be
rubbing on the brake pads, especially if you run your pads close to the
rim, as I do. So yes, you can certainly use a disc hub with rim brakes, but
it isn't ideal, unless you're a very light rider. For example, Linda and I
both have SON Deluxe hubs on our road bikes. I weigh about 40lbs more than
Linda. I use the Wide Body version and she uses the standard SON Deluxe.
Neither of us need to charge any electronics while we ride, so we don't use
the slightly heavier SON 28 hubs.

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 7:47 AM Peter Fray  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm looking to get the Son dynamo hub. Considering it's price I'd rather
> make an informed (still quite impulsive) decision..hah!
>
> I have a bike with both rim and disc brake mounts (with QR) so I usually
> buy disc hubs, to future proof the hub purchase, but continue to run
> v-brakes (for now). Is this a sound approach to continue with this buy i.e.
> disc hubs with v-brake rims?
>
> Based on SON's website, I think Son28 would be appropriate considering
> it's better to charge devices at low speeds. So, in this case I would take
> the "SON 28 Hub Dynamo - 6-Bolt - QR".
>
> Thank you for your insight!
> Peter
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[RBW] Son Hub advice

[Peter Fray]

Hi, 

I'm looking to get the Son dynamo hub. Considering it's price I'd rather 
make an informed (still quite impulsive) decision..hah!

I have a bike with both rim and disc brake mounts (with QR) so I usually 
buy disc hubs, to future proof the hub purchase, but continue to run 
v-brakes (for now). Is this a sound approach to continue with this buy i.e. 
disc hubs with v-brake rims?

Based on SON's website, I think Son28 would be appropriate considering it's 
better to charge devices at low speeds. So, in this case I would take the 
"SON 28 Hub Dynamo - 6-Bolt - QR".

Thank you for your insight!
Peter

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