[RBW] FS: Bleriot 61 cm
FS: Bleriot 61 cm I am posting this for a friend who is not on the Rivendell list. He is looking to sell his Bleriot (61 cm) complete. He’s throwing in some bike-related paraphernalia as well, since he no longer cycles. Local pickup in the San Francisco Bay Area area is highly preferred. He and the bike are in Sacramento, and he is willing to meet someone halfway. If shipped, the buyer would pay packing and shipping. I helped him piece together his Bleriot. It was a standard Rivendell build for the period: Nitto stem and bars, Sugino cranks, Shimano shifters, MKS pedals, etc. (see build details below). He was a newbie, rode the bike on asphalt bike routes several dozen times over a couple of years, and then got too busy with work to continue cycling. The bike has been stored in his garage ever since. It is still in good condition. There are some paint chips and scratches here and there, which he has tried to detail accurately in the photos. Having just sat around for the better part of a decade, the bike could probably use a tune up and some new tubes and tires. Or treat it as your blank slate, part it out, and build it back up as you please. I have a Bleriot of my own and it is a fantastic bike, sadly discontinued. He is asking $1,500. His name is Amir, and you can contact him at ami...@gmail.com Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/193979568@N08/albums/72157719814875716 Since he is not on this list, I will help field any questions that may arise here. But for all logistics, please contact Amir directly. Geometry can be found on Cyclofiend's website: http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/bleriot/index.html Happy Bleriot-ing! Aaron Thomas Santa Monica, CA *BUILD DETAILS* Frame: Rivendell Bleriot 61 cm Stem: Nitto Technomic Deluxe Headset: Shimano Ultegra Handlebars: Nitto Noodle (44 cm?) Seatpost: Nitto Brake levers: Shimano Brake calipers: Textro Silver Shifters: Shimano bar end Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore LX Cassette: Shimano 9 speed Front derailleur: Shimano Sora Crankset: Sugino triple Pedals: MKS Rims: Velocity Synergy Hubs: Deore LX Tires: Panaracer Col de la Vie Wheels: Built by Rich Lesnik, Hands on Wheels Saddle: Some puffy thing because he is very skinny and has a bony arse. You’ll likely want to replace it with your own saddle. *INCIDENTALS (included if you want 'em)* Joe Blow Topeak standing pump Zefal hp hand pump Light and Motion high output led light and battery. Planet Bike rear light -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/bc498260-58d8-4901-b09a-f5995fb711a6n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?
Paul, thank you, this is helpful. I'd be using the Soma Supples on Velocity A23 rims, which have an internal width of 18 mm. Sounds like it should be right around 32 or 33, which is what I'm looking for. I have been using Jack Brown greens (33) and Panaracer GravelKings (32), and just want to mix it up a bit with something else in that ballpark — but with the lightweight performance casing. I was using the Challenge Strada Bianca "open tubular" in 30 mm, and loved the ride, but have had some issues with them blowing off my A23 rims (but not on Mavic Open Pro), so I'm sticking with clinchers for my A23 wheels. I'm going to give the Soma Supple a try. Thanks! Aaron On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 3:06:05 PM UTC-7, Paul Brodek wrote: > > Forgive the self-reply, just wanted to add a data chunk. > > Checked two different Soma SV SL 33s on vintage Mavic MA40 rims, spec > 13.5mm internal width, and got a pretty sold 30mm at 80psi. So 30mm wide on > 13.5mm rims, 33mm on 19mm rims. > > Thus my disappointment at the SV SL 28s being 27mm on 13mm rims. > > The 33s are "accurate on wide/undersized" and the 28s are "accurate on > narrow/oversized." > > I just got some Vittoria Corsa Graphene+ 28mm skinwalls for the Merckx. If > they're too wide/tall, it'll have to be the Conti 5k blackwalls. Was hoping > for skinwalls on the Merckx, but I'm not willing to throw more money at > Veloflex or something else, especially considering I don't have many/any > other bikes this tight in the herd. > > Paul Brodek > Hillsdale, NJ USA > > On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 11:44:55 PM UTC-4, Paul Brodek wrote: >> >> Hey Aaron, >> >> This could turn into another of my tire rants, but it's getting late and >> I'm getting sleepy. >> >> All's I'm gonna say right now is, I can no longer simply use the term >> "accurate" in regard to labeled tire widths. Actual tire width is dependent >> on the tire itself, natch, but also the width of the rim and the final tire >> pressure. Since I started dabbling in vintage builds again, my rims now >> range from 13mm internal width (Mavic Open 4 CD) to 21mm (HED Belgium+). >> That 8mm width differential results in significant differences in actual >> tire widths. >> >> Luckily I don't have any wide-ass gravel/all-road/atb rims, which can >> make 21mm look skinny. Then I'd be making myself even nutsier. >> >> So now I have to use a whole bunch of qualifiers: "accurate on narrower >> rims" or "accurate on wider rims." I think of "accurate on narrower rims" >> as "oversized," and "accurate on wider rims" as "undersized," but that >> still only has meaning when you're including rim widths in the discussion. >> I suppose that's relatively understandable, but if the tire mfrs would just >> standardize their width labeling, life would be so much easier. >> >> The tire labeling doesn't tell us what rim width they're using to measure >> the width, or a what tire pressure they're measuring. There's also the >> issue that tires sometimes pop out of new molds either a little >> undersized/oversized from what the designers intended, which only compounds >> (is that pun-ish? punish??) the problem. 622-33-19-80 (622 tire is 33mm on >> 19mm-width rim at 80psi) could be what's in the mold, but what happens when >> the tire pops out and ps! it's actually 31mm or 35mm at 19/80? >> >> End of rant. >> >> In general I find the wider Soma SVs to be accurate on wider rims, or a >> little undersized, so the 33s will reach 33mm on 19-21mm-ish internal-width >> rims and normal/high-ish riding pressures. I just checked one on a 19mm >> Belguim+ rim, 21mm internal width, and it was just a hair over 33mm (like >> 33.1-33.2mm) at 80psi. If you're using narrower rims, and/or running lower >> pressure, they should be a little bit narrower. >> >> There could be sample variation, and also variation within the line. I'd >> never used Supple Vitesse 28s, but just got a pair hoping they'd be >> undersized enough to work on my Merckx, which has the 19mm Mavic Open 4 CD >> rims. I figured if they were like the 33s, and wouldn't hit 28mm till they >> got on wide rims, they shouldn't get above 26.5mm or so on a 13mm rim. They >> wound up pretty much at 27.0-27.4mm on those 13mm rims, which was a good >> 0.5-1.0mm too wide/tall for the Merckx. If they're only 1mm "undersized" on >> 13mm rims, they're going to be oversized on 19-21mm rims. I haven't tried >> them on a wider rim yet to see how wide they get, might
[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?
Paul,
Regarding the Soma Supple Vitesse tires, how accurate are the size
designations when inflated? Or perhaps more to the point, if you have used
the 33 mm, is it truly in the ballpark of 33? I bought some Challenge tires
labeled 33 mm but they inflated to nearly 37 mm!
Secondly, in your experience, how puncture prone is the extralight version
compared to the standard version?
Thanks,
Aaron
On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:35:52 PM UTC-7, Paul Brodek wrote:
>
> You can order from Scott in Mpls, as already mentioned, or buy from him on
> ebay. He's always got listings for tires there, makes it handy to see what
> he may have in stock.
>
> Ordering direct from Grand Bois has been mostly smooth for me. Recent
> covid-related shipping issues have cropped up, they switched from EMS to
> DHL when delays kicked in, not sure what they're doing now, but Japan seems
> to be getting back to a quasi-normal.
>
> Nobody's mentioned the Soma Supple Vitesse tires, which are another
> high-zoot Panaracer OE product for a US-based brand/company. I use 'em a
> lot, like 'em a lot. They have std and extralight versions, and are
> generally less expensive than Rene Herse. You can buy direct, might help to
> wait for one of their occasional/seasonal sales if you're not in a rush.
> ModernBike seems to have the lowest everyday price on them.
>
> The Challenge tires are also very nice. Just be aware they are "open
> tubular" design, not vulcanized, so they lay flat against the rim out of
> the package, with no natural upward curve whatsoever. I don't use tubeless
> tires, so I can't compare mounting a Challenge open tubular to those, but I
> can say that Challenge open tubulars are the most difficult tires to mount
> of any tires I've used over the past 10yrs+. I'm cranky and stubborn, and
> only when death is the only other alternative (yes, I'm exaggerating) will
> I use tire irons to mount a tire, but I've come close with Challenge. I
> recently got some fat, puffy Strada Bianca Pros, and they look just
> beautiful, but every time I look at them I can almost feel palm and thumb
> pain again. Once they've gone on, and had some time inflated, subsequent
> mounting isn't inordinately difficult, but the first time is a real bear. I
> recently got a Kool Stop Tire Bead Jack to spare my palms and thumbs next
> time around.
>
> [image: 49837732981_ce1b8c5de4_c.jpg]
> I'll also say that tire mounting experience is akin to flatting
> experience, in that it is a certainty that someone else thinks mounting
> Challenge tires is easey-peasey, they never have a problem. ("Tire X is a
> flat magnet!" "I ride mine thousands of miles and never get a flat." Like
> that...) One man's death fit is another's no sweat. But Challenge does see
> the need to have a video on their website showing their preferred mounting
> technique. And boy howdy the dude in the video doesn't seem to struggle
> like I do. I've bought more than one pair near-new from somebody on a forum
> who gave up trying to install them. So it ain't just me.
>
> But they are dead sexy.
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 11:07:49 AM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> I've long enjoyed the suppleness of these tires, but they seem not to
>> have been available in the U.S. now for some years; I think they can still
>> be obtained outside the U.S.. Any recommendations for near-equivalents?
>> (Labeled as 700 x 30, but seem to measure out closer to 32). Thanks in
>> advance for any recommendations. Tom, Miami
>>
>> Sam Hillborne
>> Legolas
>> Goodrich-built 650b prototype
>> '94 RBT
>>
>
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[RBW] New York Times debate on Rules of the Road
I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned in another thread, but list members may be interested in a section posted in the New York Times debating Rules of the Road. Grant Petersen is among the debaters. While I agree with his general proposition that making driving more inconvenient could help the cause of bicycle commuting, I'm not so convinced on some of the particulars. I am quite in favor, however, of The Idaho Stop he mentions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/10/21/cyclists-drivers-and-the-rules-of-the-road?hp Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Now taking a poll for the month of September SoCal Riv Ride Santa Monica
Parking in and around Peet's Coffee on Montana Ave and 14th Street is generally not a problem. Some blocks are permit-only, but most are entirely open to the public without time limitations. Just gotta peep the signs. On Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:12:39 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: What say the locals to parking situation on a Saturday morning? Is there enough street parking inland to accommodate us, or should we settle on a city lot on the west side? That may be more central to post-ride festivities. On 9/15/13, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hey Fellows, Let me know if you'd rather do street parking or the lot as I scoped out. David is submitting this as a choice: pete's on Montana 14th as a staging area. Street parking w/in a couple blocks, bike friendly spot. http://goo.gl/maps/ylZKW Don't know what the parking situation would be like time limits and or Neighborhood permits?? Also the Restaurant idea is just a suggestion totally open to input. Here's David's input: Border Grill which is a fave. http://www.yelp.com/biz/border-grill-santa-monica#query:Best%20Mexican%20Restaurant ~Hugh On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hey SoCal Rivsters, Figured I'd update the poll and firm up the ride specifics. The poll is done and the winner is the 28th. Here is the ride thanks to Cyclotourist: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Santa-Monica-Dirt-Mulolland-ride# As far as a place to eat I submit this casual establishment it would be a back track of 1.5 miles but the total ride is a mere 27 odd miles so I don't see a down side. http://reelinnmalibu.com/menu.php Parking will be a challenge so I suggest we get there early, I think this lot will serve us well. Can we meet at 8:30 am? Or shall we chance it and keep the meet up @ 9 am. Lot 10 North 445 E Pacific Coast Hwy. Santa Monica, Ca 162 spaces The information from Santa Monica City is confusing I found this PDF with locations and cost whether it's up to date is a guess but from this it appears that the cost is $7 for the day which you pay at a kiosk. http://theartofsexualintimacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Parking_Brochure.pdf The Address above originally if searched showed you a location South of Santa Monica?? So I think that's about that. Looking forward to the 28th. ~Hugh On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Esteban prot...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I participated... And hope to participate! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Nc6J8nS8J5c/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Me and my A. Homer Hilsen in the Rapha Blog
Very nice. The silver Rambouillet under your photo set is really nice too. On Sunday, June 16, 2013 9:37:12 AM UTC-7, Blindrobert wrote: http://www.rapha.cc/austin Shot by my old NYC friend, John (Prolly) Watson. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Nice JP Valiensi bike w/ Many Riv Parts
Yeah, I was going to say, I was looking through James' Flickr pics. That blue road bike he built looks tasty! And it's impressively light with a minimum of crabon. Very nice work: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/4821788313/in/set-72157624567561712 On Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:45:58 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: that's too bad James... and from my undergrad Alma mater to boot. You've sure built some beautiful bikes. If I see anything I'll let you know. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: It is BACK!
Fantastic color! Does it have a special name? Is it the same as the Homer blue? On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:29:03 AM UTC-7, Lynne Fitz wrote: When I will get time to build it up until next week is another question. But my beloved Rivendell Bleriot (last seen as a smoking heap of somewhat mangled steel after being left-hooked) is now back, with a new (and upgraded) fork and a beautiful paint job! http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/8962094278/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/8962094310/ Repair job by Steve Rex, paint job by his painter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Nice JP Valiensi bike w/ Many Riv Parts
What a shame. Really nice looking bike. Aaron On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 6:14:24 PM UTC-7, James Valiensi wrote: Hi, One of my bikes was stolen today at CSU Northridge. If you see it pop up on Craig's List or Ebay, please drop me a line. When I first built this bike, and was riding down the road, some passerby yelled Nice Rivendell. That was a nice compliment. Here is a flickr page of it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/sets/72157632319454467/ Thanks James Valiensi Northridge, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: RBWSF s240o
+1 on the El Farolito recommendation. They have great tacos al pastor. Another excellent joint in the area is Taqueria Cancun: https://plus.google.com/103309884968659050265/about?gl=ushl=en Aaron On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:17:23 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: People that aren't from the area should venture to El Farlito or La Taqueria for food before or after the event. I miss El Farlito. Nothing like it here in Portland. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Mike-on-the-hill?
At the end of the April 18 Blug post, Grant says of a particular rim and tire combination that it's no Mike-on-the-hill. Anyone care to bring me up to speed on what that means? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mike-on-the-hill?
Ahh, I get it. Thanks. I was thinking it was some pop culture reference that I wasn't familiar with, like an old movie quotation or something. On Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:01:37 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: I think he must be referring to Mike cresting the hill in the photo from the Merry Sales cover. Using the photo as a benchmark of cool, the rim and tire combo is cool but not *as *cool. On Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:45:28 PM UTC-7, Aaron Thomas wrote: At the end of the April 18 Blug post, Grant says of a particular rim and tire combination that it's no Mike-on-the-hill. Anyone care to bring me up to speed on what that means? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and innovation
In light of Grant's recent Blug post, which mentioned the influence of Tom Ritchey, this interview just published on Road Bike Review may be of interest to the list: http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/2013-predictions-tom-ritchey-of-ritchey-design I particularly liked his quip that the bike industry, which innovated away from clearances to run larger tires, is in some ways 'innovating' back to where we started. —Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Vittoria Cross EVO XN 700x32c Silver Tread
I haven't tried the Vittoria, but I have used the Challenge Grifo XS, which has a similar file tread, plus some small knobs on the shoulders: http://www.challengetech.it/products/cyclocross/grifo-xs-open-020/en They are fantastic tires. Think of them as a faster rolling Jack Brown with a bit of tread for dirt and sandy terrain. They are quite durable and roll well on pavement. Aaron On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:05:04 PM UTC-7, alford wrote: Has anyone tried these? I'll ride mainly on the road, but there are a few paths i'll be riding and these look nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Staff Bikes is back
John's bike keeps with historical precedent. As with his bike showcased in the previous Staff Bikes collection, the current one on display sports his patented family jewels-busting saddle tilt. It gives me the willies just looking at it. But if it works for him, who am I to begrudge the setup? http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff12.htm On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:07:52 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: But they don't have the weekend staff, like Harry, Scott, Vince and Joe. On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:01:38 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: A new page with staff bikes: http://www.rivbike.com/Staff-Bikes-s/766.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Fattest/supplest 700c tires for my S1
David's tire suggestions are exactly what I would have counseled. It's interesting that the Challenge site doesn't list the Eroica anymore. That'd be a shame if they stopped making them — they are wonderful tires! However, it looks like they've introduced another gravel racing tire: the Almanzo. Same width as the Eroica, but with nibbly tread, like the one found on the Grifo XS: http://www.challengetech.it/products/road/almanzo-open-030/00521/en That would be pretty awesome too. Good options out there! Aaron On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 6:51:53 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: If so, then a really short product run. They just came out last year. Glad I picked up a pair, although hope they aren't as delicate as you found the PR to be. If so, back to Jack Brown! FYI, here are some for sale, possibly get 'em while you can: http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222384290/421/Challenge-Eroica-Gravel.html?gclid=CLqs7Ieb_LQCFUjZQgodSDMAIg On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comjavascript: wrote: On Mon, 2013-01-21 at 21:21 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: Challenge Eroica is a 30mm tire. I have a set waiting to be installed when my Jack Browns wear down. I'm not sure they're still available anymore. I checked Challenge's web site and found it was no longer listed. Given how plush the almost identical, but narrower, Parigi Roubaix rides, I'm sure the Eroica will be even more plush. Note, however, the PR is the most flat-prone tire I've ever used, and since the Eroica is the same thing only wider, I'm pretty sure it too will be equally flat-prone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HrIw6qk4ffEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Year's Day ride up Mt Diablo
Sounds like fun, but 9:30 am on New Years Day is inhumane. We'll see. I probably won't be making it. On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:05:50 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: I thought I'd start a thread for this ride, which was mentioned in another thread. The plan is to meet at Pleasant Hill BART at 9:30 am: * http://tinyurl.com/bvt86we* It looks like the trails will be able to dry out a bit before then. There should be enough locals on this ride to take different routes to the top and back again. Cheers jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Su9HP4QNRdoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Another perspective, by George!
I refuse to read — or take seriously — anyone who cannot spell Grant's last name correctly after all these years. – Aaron On Monday, December 10, 2012 2:52:51 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote: It's pretty nitpicky. -Original Message- From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com javascript: Sent: Dec 10, 2012 9:55 AM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: [RBW] Another perspective, by George! George isn't the world's clearest writer. Did he like the book, or dislike the book? Hard to tell. Clearly he's got an axe to grind, but his criticisms are pretty unfocused. The most specific criticism is that some racing stats were inaccurate? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dgEkLrRqg68J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/M--GaGAZTtcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Go fast bike: San Marcos?
Tony, Quick head's up on your brake reach issue. Looks like you're using the wrong brake up front — and that's why the brake pads are high in the slots. Only the 650B sizes of the San Marcos (i.e. 47, 51) use the long reach Tektro 559 (55-73mm). The 700c sizes use standard reach brakes (47-57 mm). That'd be the Tektro R539 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/brsbm59.htm. Did you try putting a standard reach brake on the front? Aaron On Sunday, December 2, 2012 11:42:46 AM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Ryan, I actually have both bikes and have some thoughts to share with you regarding both. Perhaps some of my experiences can help with your decision on which frame to purchase. I bought a Sam Hillborne a couple of years back and went through a number of drivetrain and accessory changes. It's been my go fast, commuting, townie, and cyclocross bike so I feel qualified in comparing both bikes. My Sam has had a number of personalities in regards to set up and ride characteristics. I currently have it set up as a townie with fenders, 32mm tires, drop bars, and a basket (*contemplating a dirt drop stem and flat bars with cork grips*). I also have a San Marcos set up as a commuter, club ride bike, and cyclocross bike. My San Marcos has a mix of Shimano parts, 32mm tires, a Velo Orange rack, and drop bars. *To answer your original question, the San Marcos is an excellent choice for a go fast bike. * https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8n1WhS2qYyg/ULulwQWTKsI/AuA/ifpWp81Ra2w/s1600/DSC00207.JPG *San Marcos Criticism #1* I'm not sure if this is true for different sizes, but you'll need standard reach brake calipers up front and long reach calipers in the rear if you purchase a 54cm San Marcos. I am not sure if this is true of the other sizes or with any other 54cm San Marcos frames. I am running Tektro R559 brakes on this bike--the fit of the rear calipers is spot on however long reach calipers up front don't seem to fit properly. Have a look at the attached photo and you'll see that the fork was not designed for long reach brakes. Conjecture says that this bike should use standard reach brakes and that the rear brake bridge on my bike was welded too far upwards, necessitating longer reach brakes. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hPpChC7_z00/ULul4qOoEJI/AuI/nMYrtVGrYoc/s1600/DSC00209.JPG *San Marcos Criticism #2* The dropouts on this bike suck compared to the ones on my Sam. As you can see from the photos, the front dropouts originally come with lawyer tabs--I quickly filed those off after acquiring the bike. The rear dropout eyelets are welded too closely to the frame and cause interference when trying to mount a rack or fenders. The welds get in the way and prevent you from mounting accessories in a flush manner. The second photo shows a slight gap between the rack tab and the eyelets because the welds get in the way. Moreover, the decorative part of the Soma dropouts interfere with the quick-release hub skewer--this is not the case with my Sam. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U7UDrv1Nts0/ULul_MczA-I/AuQ/gNXYgLA5_9E/s1600/DSC00210.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OiPJ0hY_jvk/ULumDgoGmRI/AuY/pDBz7q0BIEU/s1600/DSC00212.JPG With all of that said, the San Marcos is an excellent bike and I am very pleased with it. I have no trouble maintaining an average speed of 23mph while on club rides. It is quite comfortable however feels very sporty and agile when compared to the Sam Hillborne. Since you already have a Sam, try to imagine your bike with easier maneuverability, a lighter feel when climbing, and less squirrel*liness*. If you go with mainly Nitto parts, more spokes than less, and wide tires, you'll have no worries about durability if you end up with a San Marcos. I haven't had the chance to test ride a Roadeo, but I imagine that model to be much more suitable for fast riding than the San Marcos. The Roadeo is a gorgeous frame, and would probably be the ONE frame I would have if I could only own one bike. But since I'm fortunate enough to have two, I feel the San Marcos can easily be differentiated from the Sam Hillboarne while retaining those absolute must characteristics (comfort, durability, versatility). In your shoes, I would try to get past the eccentricities of the San Marco because it's so much cheaper than the Roadeo...then I'd use the left over money to purchase an awesome wheel set and an SRAM Apex group. On Sunday, December 2, 2012 10:42:45 AM UTC-8, RJM wrote: Thanks for all the replies, One the go fast bike, I was planning on using brifters, probably something from Sram as I prefer their hood shape. I am not exactly light, about 200 and still a short dude so I do have some weight to get off me. Light weight really isn't a huge consideration on the new bike, but having quick tires/wheels/the abilty to quickly shift would be
[RBW] Riv rider in Canyon (Moraga, CA) today?
I was trudging up a hill when another rider – looked like he might have been riding a Rivendell – crested from the other side and ding-ding belled me. Anyone on this list? The sun was in my eyes so I couldn't get a good look. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vqvyTXkmwO0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Someone please buy this: 53cm Legolas
Yeah, if that were a 55, I'd be all over it! On Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:22:07 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Not mine, no connection, just love the most elusive Rivendell! www.ebay.com/itm/150934574490 -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6PeQNNyzarkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] IRD standard reach brakes?
Just spotted these IRD 47-57 mm standard reach brakes. http://store.interlocracing.com/b57roadbrakes.html Anyone tried them? They look nice and shiny! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pt_yquJ3kcwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bill Walton's bike
As pictured outside my LBShttp://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/526012_10151515133681729_1153346723_n.jpg. Get that man a second top tube! His head tube is probably as long as my seat tube... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PBjSIyMfXCkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers
I love the Romulus-esque blue. On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:32:51 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: This popped up on the CL in the SF North Bay. I'm glad it is too small for me, as I would be trying to figure out how to rationalize another bike. I don't think it's a screamingly great deal, but it is fairly priced. It's an Eisentraut Limited model: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/3288189788.html For folks who haven't heard of Albert Eisentraut, the most common phrase which comes up with him on a search is godfather of american framebuilders I would not normally put a non-RBW model listing here, but this one, from this builder, is worth a look - if nothing else to see work from someone who begat those who begat those who currently craft quality frames here in the States. http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA/Eisentraut_main.htm - Jim know your roots... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/X0wYjZBid34J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Chris King gourmet century video
Looks like it was a nice event: http://vimeo.com/47107889 Some dude interviewed was wearing a Rivendell jersey. Anyone on this list? Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UUCqYu90hY4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You really will like this video ...
Really nice tribute. Thanks for sharing. On Monday, July 30, 2012 9:05:26 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__2w6mXTNMk ... if only for the Yorkshire accents. Amazing cyclist. I know Riv has set its face against the racing paradigm, but, let's face it, racing is a very big part of cycling and even old duffers like I can vicariously enjoy the triumphs depicted in this video. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-KVAQA08R6sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Blug question
I agree with Jim Thill. I don't much care for Tumblr for Riv purposes and think Wordpress, Blogspot, or similar platform makes more sense for this type of content and Grant's approach to blugging. Especially irksome is that when subscribing to the feed via Google Reader, the Blug posts are truncated to the first few words, which requires that you go visit Tumblr's domain outside of your news reader environment. I understand the commercial reason for this, in that it effectively takes you to a landing page where you can easily access rivbike.com to go shopping. But it does add an unnecessary step as far as efficient reading of the blug goes. Aaron On Monday, July 16, 2012 9:32:03 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: I think the kids call it a microblogging site - it can be used to aggregate found web content and generally has pretty direct controls of who says what within your stream, without making you maintain a separate site. It was paid-ad-free, though they've recently announced a deal (or two) to move towards that model. But, specific to your question: - Go to Tumblr.com and register (sign up) for an account. - View the Rivbike.com blug while logged in. - You do need a reasonably compliant browser for all the little web doohickeys to work reliably, but should have the options to comment, reblog (have it appear in your feed on tumblr). You can set it up so that tumblr automatically republishes stuff from other sites (such as flickr) to your stream. You can make it as complex or simple as you wish. hope that helps!~ - J On Jul 15, 2012, at 8:00 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: How to sign up to the Blug so that I can make comments directly? I click on register and it cycles and cycles and cycles and, frankly, I am not sure exactly what this Tumbkr thing is that I am (apparently) registering for. I promise not to be verbose and to be reasonable. While I certainly don't agree with all that Grant says or espouses, I do like his writing and respect his convictions -- or rather, I respect his willingness to have definite opinions on things and find his opinions interesting even if I personally don't find them suitable. -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aiuD2RW-yf0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] On carbs, tubby tummies, and sugary sports drinks
Gary Fisher's take on the subject may be of interest to the list. Get that man a Li'l Loafer! http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/07/16/156854397/some-athletes-reject-high-tech-sports-fuel-in-favor-of-real-food -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sZ6LtJzYylAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study
For a different take on the question of cortisol and C-reactive protein, check out this interview with Dr. Ron Rosedale: http://www.meandmydiabetes.com/2012/06/30/ron-rosedale-comments-on-new-harvard-study Aaron On Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:31:58 PM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote: Nothing Hirsch says discredits the paper cited. The paper claims that the resting energy expenditure of the subjects with low carb diets was higher than the high carb diet expenditure. Therefore, the low carb diet contingent burns more energy at rest than the high carb diet contingent. I looked at the data and it certainly trended that way. They claim that the data are statistically significant. One thing of note, however, is that the low carb diet contingent had higher levels of cortisol and I think I remember reading C-reactive protein. These are markers of inflammation and if they are elevated tend to increase the risk of cardiovascular disease among other things. I try to eat as many veggies as possible and be moderate in my intake of carbs and meat. In any event, a diet with lots of veggies is good for preventing cancer. Luckily I don't need to be too worried about weight. Toshi On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Tony Lockhart alockhart...@gmail.com wrote: This was an interesting article and I imagine that it'll have the Taubes fans up in arms. This guy speaks very authoritatively when it comes to efficient ways of losing weight. I kind of find this frustrating because the article alludes to his credibility given that he's been studying obesity for 60 years. With that said, I find it interesting that Hirsch mediated a study where he manipulated calorie compositions in his subjects. It would seem that this directly contradicts what Taubes has highlighted in Good Calories, Bad Calories. I would like to know more about Hirsch's claim that low carb/high fat diets have something to do with water weight loss. In the Taubes books, I remember him very clearly describing how correctly dieting will regulate/correct adipose deposit levels, but I vaguely remember anything about water weight loss. Anybody else not buying what Hirsch has to say?? On Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:16:09 PM UTC-7, Solomander wrote: OTOH.. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/health/nutrition/q-and-a-are-high-protein-low-carb-diets-effective.html?smid=FB-nytimesWT.mc_id=HL-E-FB-SM-LIN-IDM-071212-NYT-NAWT.mc_ev=click Jules Hirsch is a smart guy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Hx0iYyeWnsgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6WpglxP-AiUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell road-style bike for 82 PBH. Rambouillet, Road, Homer, Roadeo, Bleriot, etc.
That's a sweet looking Road Standard. But a 59cm is way too big for an 82 cm PBH. For 82, you're talking about a frame in the 53-55 cm range. On Saturday, June 23, 2012 2:56:46 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: There is this on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-Rivendell-Steel-Road-Bike-59-CM-Shimano-Classic-Mountain-Setup?item=400305229310cmd=ViewItem_trksid=p5197.m7_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D123151093758667343#ht_3253wt_966 On Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:01:26 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: Frame sizes are all over the place for the different models, so I thought I'd just list my PBH. If you have one you'd like to sell, please let me know. I have wanted a Rivendell road-style drop bar bike for a while, but cannot afford new. So I am looking for used. Again, something along the lines of Road, Rambouillet, Bleriot, Homer, Roadeo. Drop bars. I am not concerned with toothcounts or anything like that. I can change things later if I need to. I just commute and do recreational road riding. Would love to have one and looks like used is the only way it will happen. Please message me or email me at john11.2...@gmail.com Thanks! Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QRxGNnk96-YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell road-style bike for 82 PBH. Rambouillet, Road, Homer, Roadeo, Bleriot, etc.
That's a really nice frame too. I wonder about the accuracy of the seller's description. A 57 cm top tube on a 54 frame doesn't compute to me. But I could be wrong. I have a PBH similar to the original poster's and a 57 top tube would be way too long for me. On Saturday, June 23, 2012 4:07:37 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: Perhaps this 54 might work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200779652699ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123 On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Brian Campbell bdcampbel...@gmail.comwrote: Mis-read. Sorry! Still a sweet bike. It is my size, that is why I keep thinking about it! On Saturday, June 23, 2012 6:02:03 PM UTC-4, Aaron Thomas wrote: That's a sweet looking Road Standard. But a 59cm is way too big for an 82 cm PBH. For 82, you're talking about a frame in the 53-55 cm range. O -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GhBiMkPT4EMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Andy Hampsten in the New York Times
Today's NYT carries a short interview with Andy Hampsten on cyclotouring. Note his Strada Bianca with what appear to be Jack Brown tires. http://travel.nytimes.com/2012/06/24/travel/andy-hampstens-spin-on-cycling-tours.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4h4ua_7a22AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Andy Hampsten in the New York Times
Slight correction. His brother, Steve, of Hampsten Cycles had this to say: Given the fork and the short-reach calipers, I'm thinking those must be Roly Poly tires. But he rides Jack Browns on the Strada Bianca. So I guess the pictured bike isn't a Strada Bianca either... Whatever. All I know is that the article makes me want to fly the coop for Italy! Aaron On Friday, June 22, 2012 1:28:23 PM UTC-7, Aaron Thomas wrote: Today's NYT carries a short interview with Andy Hampsten on cyclotouring. Note his Strada Bianca with what appear to be Jack Brown tires. http://travel.nytimes.com/2012/06/24/travel/andy-hampstens-spin-on-cycling-tours.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/shCFLWVi1ysJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 58cm Rambouillet FS - East Bay
Yeah, David is awesome (and dangerous) with getting worthy listings into the hands of friends. If I'd pursued all of the bike and frame listings he's generously and thoughtfully forwarded my way, I'd be even poorer than I already am. But keep 'em comin'! Aaron On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:13:58 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: David - Thanks for sending these to the group. I often will forward them to folks I know who have been on the edge of buying a Rivendell, but hadn't quite found the right one. Sometimes it's easier for them to rationalize a used model. As I've mentioned before, the helpful thing (which you did - thanks!) if someone is posting a listing, is to state clearly if it's yours, a friends or just something that you came across. Since this list has grown so much, it's easy to lose track of who-owns-what. And I do hope that finds a good home! - Jim cyclofiend.com / list admin for RBW Group -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sBjLGL3fpXAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Blue Sam
What is that wart-like protuberance on the handlebar? I can't figure out what it is. On Friday, June 8, 2012 3:48:47 AM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote: I finally got time to post some information about the build for my new Samhttp://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2012/06/new-blue-sam-hillborne-n0-for-now.html. Damn that is a nice bike. There's nothing extravagant or unusual, but it's a lot lighter and a whole lot prettier than I expected. I can hardly stay off it. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-UBCV332UXoY/T9HYeqboXbI/C9Q/i7_k3bAk9YU/s1600/IMG_2268.JPG Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UzOWjugWMu4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I copied Grant's Uber-Mark-mod
Just curious: why does 2 make it mo' betta than with one? I have a Mark's rack on my Bleriot and I've never felt that one set of struts was insufficient. What can two sets accomplish that one cannot? Please help me understand, because to me it seems like a solution in search of a problem. On Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:59:51 AM UTC-7, William wrote: I saw Grants 58cm Hilsen on my last visit to RBWHQ. His Marks rack sported double struts. It was such a simple and obvious enhancement to the one and in my opinion only glaring weakness of the Mark's rack. I rummaged around, and found the perfect bits. I didn't even have to trim the extra struts. Total win. The second pair of strut mounting bolts and carriage washers came with the Marks Rack. The struts I used came with my Nitto Big Rear rack. Pictures prove its mo' betta. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/7274105900/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/7274106730/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/7274105004/in/photostream/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/h4KqJfhzAp8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I copied Grant's Uber-Mark-mod
Interesting. I guess I've never loaded it heavy enough to have any adverse effect. I'll keep your/Grant's trick in mind in the event that I do. On Saturday, May 26, 2012 1:32:49 PM UTC-7, William wrote: Two is a ton stiffer if you lug real weight on it. Push down hard on the platform and you'll see the steel diving board flex. Mine has bent from riding a few thousand miles with a medium sized handlebar bag. The second strut makes it a real triangle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xU9YP_7PTdUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 57 Romulus anyone?
Yep. Roms were odd, Rams were even. On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:09:39 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: I think they were odd instead of even sizes (measured center to top). As opposed to the Rambouillet. Ryan On May 23, 9:48 pm, Reid reidp...@earthlink.net wrote: Um, a bit off topic, but ... I have what I think is a 56 Romulus. Usually sizes are at least 2 apart, so did they do Roms in 54, 56, 58 etc., at one time and 55, 57, 59 etc. at another time? Reid On May 22, 2:08 pm, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I sometimes toy with the idea of selling my 57 Romulus, which is a bit large for me. But any such sale would be contingent on finding a 55 Legolas or 55 Romulus. If you have a line on one of those, drop me a line. Aaron On Monday, May 21, 2012 9:27:49 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: Anyone looking to part with same? Thanks! Ryan- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7VtOHqKS7LsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 57 Romulus anyone?
I sometimes toy with the idea of selling my 57 Romulus, which is a bit large for me. But any such sale would be contingent on finding a 55 Legolas or 55 Romulus. If you have a line on one of those, drop me a line. Aaron On Monday, May 21, 2012 9:27:49 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: Anyone looking to part with same? Thanks! Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lQqlFXOVFC0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just Ride
Jim, As someone who straddles the line between Rivendellish sensibilities and club rider hammering, I can relate to the seemingly divergent desires of your customer. And I wonder whether there needs to be such a stark dichotomy drawn between a practical bike and one suitable for fitness-oriented clubby rides. Others have suggested a Surly LHT. My thought is another: why not one of the new Surly Pacers, which are designed for standard reach brakes? It could be built up in a racy, weight-conscious way with a smart mix of Ritchey or FSA parts and a SRAM Apex or Rival gruppo. A Burly could be affixed when necessary. And I'm blanking now, but aren't there pedals out there that have simultaneous clipless and regular shoe capabilities? Perhaps she could be outfitted with two wheelsets, one with some Jack Browns for Burly duties, the other with some sensible (to me) 25mm performance tires, such as Michelin Krylion or Panaracer Type-D. The only thing that might get in the way of a truly dual-purpose Pacer would be the rack, which would add unnecessary weight and drag when used for club rides. Sounds good to me. Wouldn't mind one myself! Aaron On Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:09:55 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Just Ride was on my mind yesterday when I tried to help a woman decide on her first nice bike. She wants a sporty-ish bike for Burley-pulling and it would be nice if it had a rack. Easy enough. But she's also athletic and aspires to the racer archetype. I should add that she's the type of woman that most men would notice in any crowd, which means that various bike dudes have tried to help her with all sorts of advice. All the usual suspects were present: the necessity and efficiency of clipless pedals, the magical properties of carbon, and the (baffling-to-me) popularity of time-trial bikes, none of which are necessary, or even desirable, in a bike for daily errands and family rides. Anyway, she was clearly struggling with the perceived compromises between making a bike useful and making a bike fast (or at least light/expensive enough to impress the racer wannabe crowd). I thought to myself: this would be a lot easier if she could drop the racer notions and stop hanging out with guys who read Bicycling Magazine as a comprehensive source of cycling wisdom. On Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:15:32 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Maybe there should be a spoiler alert here - be advised that I will be discussing various aspects of the new book, so navigate away from this page if you prefer the content of the book to be a complete surprise. I finished reading the book tonight, which if I can summarize in a line, is about all the good things about bikes that appear only when you toss racer prejudices and attitudes out the window and Just Ride. After the first few chapters, I thought that maybe the editors really sanitized GP's historically familiar against-the-grain opinions to be more blandly vanilla, hopefully to be appealing to a broader audience. The general content wasn't unpredictable to me, having read the Readers and Catalogs and most everything else Riv going back to 2004 when I wanted a touring bike and couldn't find any to buy except the Atlantis (that's how I first found Riv in the internet universe). But I was somewhat surprised that there was little to no discernible lug evangelism or quill stem absolutism or singing the praises of friction shifters, and the Retro-Grouchiness was held to a dull roar. But as I got further along in the book, I started to think that maybe Mr Petersen has simply mellowed about the trivial details over the years (I know I have!). Or maybe more accurately, there's less to be peeved about in the bike industry now than there was 10 years ago or even 5 years ago. After all, smart, sturdy bikes with ample tire clearance and useful braze-ons and some attention to classic, non-billboard aesthetics have become, dare I say, normal. If racing bikes and gear are the status quo in the world, then I must live in a lucky bubble in South Minneapolis where I ride and fix bikes every day, as I see lots of reincarnated 1980s sport-tourers, old steel MTBs, and new(ish) Surly Cross-checks and LHTs on a daily basis, but feel like I see relatively few road bikes being ridden by obvious faux-racers. To the extent that bike trends have steered toward the benefit of the Unracer over the past decade or so, my opinion is that Grant and Rivendell played a large part in it. This is not to say that all smart bike designs and product offerings are shameless Riv-ripoffs, but that Grant gave voice to a backlash movement and opened a long-neglected market to a lot of smart, creative people who maybe couldn't or wouldn't have done it without some pioneering coattails to ride on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW
Re: [RBW] Grand Bois Cerf Green Label Tires
If you want 29, go for the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix. On Open Pro rims they measure about 28.5, even 29 with age. On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:30:36 PM UTC-7, MichaelH wrote: I just put the green labels on a pair of Open Pro Rims and they both measure 26 mm! I was hoping for 29. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VJsHuV_UQ5AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant's visit to PDX
Looks like fun. Did Grant have a travel bike with him for the ride to Velo Cult or did he borrow one? On Saturday, May 12, 2012 7:26:49 PM UTC-7, velomann wrote: I shot some not very good photos. Grant spoke at Powells and said he was deviating from his standard spiel. It was good - funny in a dry way, opinionated, natch. Talked a lot about un-racing, and how he spent a lot of years riding a lot of miles, most of them thinking mostly about getting to the end, and how that's no way to ride - or live. And then we rode to Velocult, which is about the perfect place to end a ride like that. Beers, lots of chatting, the biggest collection of Rivendell bikes I've seen in one place in Portland, and a lot of nice Bridgestones as well. Got a big smile for my '85 MB-2. https://picasaweb.google.com/116897251123335733984/GrantPetersenPDX5122012 -- Michael Mann http://baiku-velomann.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/w432zOJTCzMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv article in new Momentum Magazine
It does look like Esteban, but the caption tells us otherwise. On Friday, May 11, 2012 9:09:05 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote: Is that Esteban riding the Yvez Gomez? Maybe not, looks similar. Nice picture that shows the versatility of the mixte. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0pM_hzuMN9oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Homer Hilsen in the wild.
That's some serious stem action! On Friday, May 11, 2012 7:52:59 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote: Seen today at the Annual Mayor's Ride in Charlotte, NC: http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/717094/ Nice lady who said she bought it from a bike shop in Virginia. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/v14w7fRmxLwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What is the best 28-30 mm 700c tire for fast riding on pavement?
Challenge Parigi-Roubaix -- hands down. No question, the best tire in that width. On a Mavic Open Pro they measure about 28.5. On a Velocity A23 they're more like 29. On Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:47:12 AM UTC-7, David T. wrote: What is the best 28-30 mm 700c tire for fast riding on pavement? Or some good ones? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oIR-IRvjzaAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sources for decent-looking silver 1 threadless stems
I got a Ritchey Classic silver stem, but you'd need a shim. And it only comes in 31.8 clamp diameter. It looks pretty nice, though I'm not crazy about is the logo, which is a tad loud. On Sunday, April 8, 2012 4:51:44 PM UTC-7, Forrest wrote: Where have Roadeo owners with the threadless fork sourced decent-looking (not black) 1 stems? Or just get a 1 1/8 and a shim? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/S73rwcC4uoYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH or Rodeo?
I agree with those who advocate the Roadeo. I've test ridden the 55cm floor model extensively, taking it out for long rides over several days. It's a superb bike: responsive, stable, peppy. It isn't as quick handling or spry as an Italian race bike, but that in itself may be an argument in its favor, depending on what ride characteristics you desire and prefer. With careful attention to components, a Roadeo could be built up reasonably lightweight. This isn't to say that a Hilsen can't be built light or used as a club racer. I've seen one noteworthy example of a racy Hilsenhttp://mrbill.homeip.net/albums/lkhc_mt_hamilton.2007.11.22/pages/page_16.html, decked out with Campy record carbon and a threadless fork/stem. This setup certainly didn't hold this guy back on this ride; he smoked many people to the top of the mountain (myself included). Yet I do find something odd looking about the Hilsen with 23 mm tires -- just looks kinda goofy. The Roadeo has slightly tighter clearances, so a 23 mm tire wouldn't look as out of place. Aaron On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 5:01:54 PM UTC-7, Duplomacette wrote: I'm seriously considering adding another Riv to my small stable of bikes. I currently own a Sam and I like it just fine but would like to have another bike with a bit more zip. The Rodeo seems like a good choice and I do like the 700 wheels mostly for more tire options BUT I feel the AHH could be a good choice too if I build it up more as a roadish bike and in the end I'd have a bike a bit more versatile than the Rodeo. Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JiFlLdCyqsoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey
Stem-slamming jokes aside, Esteban's test is worth trying. I used to ride with my bars at or above saddle height, but after some experimentation found that bars lower than saddle height provided a much more comfortable arrangement. Note, however, that I coupled this shift in bar height with a zero setback seatpost in place of a standard setback post I had been using. If you lower your bars, you may also want to ditch your VO wayback post and replace it with either a normal setback post or zero setback. On Monday, April 2, 2012 5:05:14 PM UTC-7, Bruce Curry wrote: Tis the season to be putting on more miles and I am experiencing more pronounced lower back pain. For some reason climbing makes it even worse. I feel like my bars are too far forward for me but don't wan't to launch on a stem buying spree without some scientific study and addl input from group members. The facts: 64cm Ram with the bars about 3cm over saddle height, 60cm cockpit w/a 12cm stem and a VO wayback seatpost w/a brooks B17. I am tall with long torso short arms. When I look at my front hub thru my bars the hub is about an inch ahead of the line made by the bars (but since the bars are up so high this point is essentially moot). What I think is probably the most telling issue is that my knees remain about 7 away from my bars (measured horizontally from each other from a purely eyeballed vertical plane separating my knee from the bars). The method I used to take this measurement was to spin backwards holding onto the wall looking straight down at a tape measure to judge the imaginary horizontal distance from the farthest forward progress of the knee. Has anyone else faced this challenge? Solution? Does the knee-bar quotient seem like a rational metric. Anyone else care to share their number? Bruce in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/C2eY4BWZ0P0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter 650 rims
That's cool news. I recall seeing somewhere that Velocity was going to come out with a 650B version of their A23, which (presumably) would present another lightweight option. On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:24:01 PM UTC-7, William wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/7023981885/in/photostream/ I saw this linked on the 650B group. Pacenti will be offering welded, machined sidewall 650B rims that are under 400g later this summer. That's pretty snazzy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sLUU5xZxsHUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fatty Rumpkin
I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if the discrepancy between Lumpkin and Rumpkin was aimed to avoid legal issues that might inhere in LOTR copyright claims. Whatever the case may be, I think Rumpkin rings better to the ear. On Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:40:33 AM UTC-7, colin p. cummings wrote: I only recently read the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and just the other week was re-reading book 1 when I noticed Fatty Lumpkin, Tom Bombadil's little horse/pony. Anyone know why Riv calls their tire the Rumpkin and not the Lumpkin? Anyone out there riding the exceedingly appropriate setup of a Bombadil on Fatty Rumpkins? Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NoLrmPZ5ngwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns vs. Pasela vs. ??
I've been riding the Clement Strada in both 25 and 28. And I like 'em in both sizes. No flats yet in either. But the rubber on the sidewalls does seem a bit fragile; mine have a couple of nicks, though nothing that's cut through the casing (yet). As you mention, the 28s measure more like 27 on my Velocity Aeroheads. Kind of like a poor man's Challenge Parigi Roubaix, though in my experience they don't feel quite as fast as the Challenge. They're a nice option for winter riding, given their all black sidewalls/tread. Grime and muck don't show up. On Friday, March 16, 2012 12:22:53 PM UTC-7, William wrote: These threads remind me just how many really delicious looking fat 700c tires there are these days. My new road bike came with some Clement model that I'd never heard of before. Strada LLG. They are a true 27 on Open Pros and they are rocket fast and really supple feeling. The 120tpi casing presumably has something to do with it. I'm scared that I'll get lots of flats with them. They really feel like a racing tire. On Friday, March 16, 2012 12:17:41 PM UTC-7, JL wrote: Thanks for the feedback everyone. It think I should give the Jack Browns a shot. It is interesting to hear how everyone's riding style and use effects tire choice so much. I tend to notice the acceleration and climbing effects more than I notice the impact on overall handling. Most of my riding is short trips ( 30miles or under ) and commuting (10 miles round trip). Right now I have Pasela 28's and 35's to sort of switch between. If I decide I need something in between (best of both worlds?) then Jack Brown Greens are my next purchase. JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iCwbRxaYzt0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns vs. Pasela vs. ??
Jack Brown Green label are great. I much prefer them to Paselas (TG and non), whose tread I find squirmy. Jack Brown Blue label are ok -- a little plodding feeling, but still nicer than Paselas. I can't speak to the longevity comparison, because I never kept the Paselas on long enough to find out -- I just didn't care for them. Kojaks are nice but felt sort of slow rolling to me. Among the tires you mentioned, here's my pecking order: JB greens, Kojak, JB blue, paselas. The GB Cypres are supposedly very nice and fast, but also reportedly fragile. On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:20:35 PM UTC-7, JL wrote: Hello All, I am interested in some reviews or insight about Jack Brown tires. I have plenty of experience with high volume 650b tires and not as much first hand knowledge about plumper 700c tires. I ride 700x28 Paselas (both TG and non) on a regular basis. Are Jack Browns a better ride and/or long life than the 32 or 35mm Paselas? Are there other tires that one should consider? Kojacks? GB Cypress? Thanks JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dQVb_9PYBmQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A few shots from NAHBS
Thanks for posting. The Ritchey commemorative bike looks awesome (though I'm not crazy about the massive Classic decal on the top tube). The Della Santa and Rebolledo stuff is refreshingly classic -- no fuss, no muss. It is interesting to see that a lot of the road bikes in your set were designed for standard reach brakes and displayed with Challenge Parigi-Roubaix. On Saturday, March 3, 2012 9:22:03 AM UTC-8, reynoldslugs wrote: I stopped by the show for a short bit on Friday, to say hi to some builders I've known over the years. My shots are not the greatest quality, but see below: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157629499867669/with/6948065325/ A few comments: The show was kind of overwhelming for this old dog. But, great to see some old and new faces, and reacquaint old contacts. The show was more about saying hi and connecting for me, so I apologize I don't have a lot of technical bike content. But, anyway, here goes: The Six Eleven -- Aaron and Michelle - - a very nice young couple. Their bikes are not terribly flashy (that's a good thing), but have a solid, classid appeal. Vendetta and Six Eleven, along with Shamrock, are on the top of my list after talking with them. Vendetta - very much enjoyed talking with Conor and Garrett. Low-key, knowledgeable. Their purple bike ought to be in contention for best in show, ATMO. And speaking of ATMO (Sachs): nice chat with Richard S. He's so knowledgeable and gracious, recalled the details of the frame he built for me (and our discussions) from back in 2003. A very interesting fellow. Roland Della Santa - - this guy is great. No b.s., quick turnaround, should get the award for Framebuilder Least Likely to be Lampooned on the TV Show Portlandia. Tony Pereira - - also a gem of a fellow, with jewel-like bikes. ATMO, he's the real deal - - solid builder, no b.s., beautiful stuff. A regular guy who builds very cool stuff. Mo Rebolledo - - local boy makes good - - another really nice guy. The paint schemes on his bikes are classic, lovely, and unique. Shamrock - - another very knowledgeable guy (Tim), great to talk with. Beautiful work. Tom Ritchey - - never met him, not likely I ever will -- he looked like a rock star with the crowd three-deep around him. Wanted to ask him about one of his limited editions, but the crowd was just too deep in his booth. Happy to see Ritchey is now producing nice new silver seatposts, handlebars, and stems. The Brooks Saddles booth looked like an over-the-top set from Portlandia. The whole knickers, tweed, and handlebar moustache thing... I'm just sayin. Still, Brooks is Brooks, and I love their stuff. Hope those that made it to the show had a good time. RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-gOA742H1FoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Weight
Grant might not like how low the bars are, but maybe he'd like the fact it has downtube shifters. Or maybe not Aaron On Friday, March 2, 2012 5:03:30 PM UTC-8, Brad Gantt wrote: I rode Aerolite pedals for about 8 years on various bikes including a whippy, thin-walled aluminum Vitus replete with a full Superbe Pro kit. Stolen later it was. On Friday, March 2, 2012 1:11:54 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Behold this: http://antranik.org/worlds-lightest-road-bike-at-2-7kg/ *And* it is laterally stiff and vertically compliant! *And* it has those coveted Aerolite pedals! (Which I have held in these my little hands but never ridden; have also held a NOS Cyclo, which I'd like to see on this bike.) *And* it has a real ass hatchet for the saddle!!! *And* the bar position will offend Grant!!! Reviewed by the mighty and wise BSNYC today, who also outs Grant's book. Patrick hyperventilating!!! Moore who arbitrarily draws the line for light at about 20 lb and for heavy at about 30 lb. Just 'cause. On Friday, March 2, 2012 5:03:30 PM UTC-8, Brad Gantt wrote: I rode Aerolite pedals for about 8 years on various bikes including a whippy, thin-walled aluminum Vitus replete with a full Superbe Pro kit. Stolen later it was. On Friday, March 2, 2012 1:11:54 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Behold this: http://antranik.org/worlds-lightest-road-bike-at-2-7kg/ *And* it is laterally stiff and vertically compliant! *And* it has those coveted Aerolite pedals! (Which I have held in these my little hands but never ridden; have also held a NOS Cyclo, which I'd like to see on this bike.) *And* it has a real ass hatchet for the saddle!!! *And* the bar position will offend Grant!!! Reviewed by the mighty and wise BSNYC today, who also outs Grant's book. Patrick hyperventilating!!! Moore who arbitrarily draws the line for light at about 20 lb and for heavy at about 30 lb. Just 'cause. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4XoAWaeQk8MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Today's Blug Post
I have no position on Riv's business practices here, but on the subject of today's Blug post, I'd sure like to see a full photo of the Molteni-orange-ish bike with the Campy crank. Is it a custom? A Roadeo? And why does the customer want it off? Seems like a nifty looking crank to me. Aaron On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:06:44 PM UTC-8, islaysteve wrote: I know that Rivendell wouldn't be RBW and Grant wouldn't be Grant without weird nuts, erasers, posters and notecards for sale on the site. But I can't help but wonder if the year-end messages wouldn't be a bit happier without having to carry some of this non-bicycle or marginally-bicycle stuff. And I wasn't even going to mention bamboo boxes. Rivendell Bicycle Works isn't Velo Orange and I imagine that most here don't want it to be, whether we like VO's offerings or not. I get this. But still. Maybe I've been away from California for too long. Planning a visit soon. Open for discussion (RBW, that is). Cheers, Steve On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:06:44 PM UTC-8, islaysteve wrote: I know that Rivendell wouldn't be RBW and Grant wouldn't be Grant without weird nuts, erasers, posters and notecards for sale on the site. But I can't help but wonder if the year-end messages wouldn't be a bit happier without having to carry some of this non-bicycle or marginally-bicycle stuff. And I wasn't even going to mention bamboo boxes. Rivendell Bicycle Works isn't Velo Orange and I imagine that most here don't want it to be, whether we like VO's offerings or not. I get this. But still. Maybe I've been away from California for too long. Planning a visit soon. Open for discussion (RBW, that is). Cheers, Steve On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:06:44 PM UTC-8, islaysteve wrote: I know that Rivendell wouldn't be RBW and Grant wouldn't be Grant without weird nuts, erasers, posters and notecards for sale on the site. But I can't help but wonder if the year-end messages wouldn't be a bit happier without having to carry some of this non-bicycle or marginally-bicycle stuff. And I wasn't even going to mention bamboo boxes. Rivendell Bicycle Works isn't Velo Orange and I imagine that most here don't want it to be, whether we like VO's offerings or not. I get this. But still. Maybe I've been away from California for too long. Planning a visit soon. Open for discussion (RBW, that is). Cheers, Steve On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:06:44 PM UTC-8, islaysteve wrote: I know that Rivendell wouldn't be RBW and Grant wouldn't be Grant without weird nuts, erasers, posters and notecards for sale on the site. But I can't help but wonder if the year-end messages wouldn't be a bit happier without having to carry some of this non-bicycle or marginally-bicycle stuff. And I wasn't even going to mention bamboo boxes. Rivendell Bicycle Works isn't Velo Orange and I imagine that most here don't want it to be, whether we like VO's offerings or not. I get this. But still. Maybe I've been away from California for too long. Planning a visit soon. Open for discussion (RBW, that is). Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kry-2FsRVbsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: One for the fire chief - 56 Bombadil on the 'bay
William, What a wonderful and uplifting video! I don't even have kids, but it makes me want to have some so I can take them on an outing like yours. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AnmhZOL2OHUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Big bikes and limits
Thanks, Jim. That's a beauty! I love the orange. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ifROFwFTirQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Big bikes and limits
JimD, You have any photos of your custom? Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WcpshYPmF2YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Bikes
Your Richard Sachs custom has me salivating... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZwIUn1OAGikJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stolen Bleriot.
It might help if you also tell us what size it is, in case someone strips it and tries to sell the frame only. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KFNGn5cJQmAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Southern California trails
The Santa Monica mountains are wonderful. If you'll be in the area, I can point you to some nice trails. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qY3vLkqwziIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Challenge Parigi-Robaix tire mounting
Yes, I had difficulty mounting my first pair of Parigi-Roubaix. I even broke a steel-core tire lever in the process. But the struggle was worth it. They're awesome tires! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XFXgQMOIW54J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 53cm Ramboulliet frame and fork with SS couplers - $900obo
Can you confirm the size? I believe Rambouillets only came in even sizes. Could it be a 52 or 54? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kL7LvETAp4UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Another busted head tube
To piggy-back on the recent busted head tube thread, I hereby submit one of my own for the group's enjoyment. This time, it's a 1980s era Ciocc: photos herehttps://picasaweb.google.com/104993822296107747388/CioccHeadtubeFailure?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCObKyPvn9syT2QEfeat=directlink . A few days ago, I noticed a faint rattling sound, like something had come loose. I inspected the bike and everything seemed locked down tight enough, so I continued to ride it. Then yesterday, on a long ride, I noticed that the steering seemed really off, almost like the front tire had a slow leak and was beginning to squirm and bounce around. Except the tire was clearly fully inflated. At some point, the loose, bouncy front end became so pronounced that it was abundantly clear that something was seriously wrong. I pulled over to the shoulder and immediately saw that the head tube had cracked. Fortunately, it happened while on a long climb and not on the descent that awaited on the other side of the summit! It was a really fun bike while it lasted. I just might have to set my eBay widget to start scouting for another ;) Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/h8EJhG9u_LoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dang, tempting...
That's a beauty. Good thing for my pocketbook that I'm in no geographical position to pursue it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DTZbqB3x9dUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Couple o' things for sale - Paul, Thomson, On One, etc.
And let's not forget one of David's favorite local breweries, which makes a fantastically good Orange Wheat beer: http://hangar24brewery.com/currentofferings.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/77SphPCQfz4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riding from Riv HQ to Berkeley
I can't provide you a blow-by-blow at the moment, but I'd go from WC through Lafayette, Moraga, Canyon, up Pinehurst to Skyline, and from Skyline towards Berkeley. It's more scenic than going along the 24. Lots of trees. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/fpeh07q8RdUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Year of Rol-y Pol-y introduction
Garth, thanks for posting the catalog snapshot. I love the DDT Sidewalls description. That made me laugh. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ROPKGOk6cXkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Need Help Finding a Bicycling to Buy
Riddle me this: why is it so hard for people to spell Grant's last name correctly? That review misspelled it 4 times! Don't they have copy-editors or fact-checkers at that rag? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/h4wIuFUdNR4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell folding bike?
I'd like to see Rivendell do a breakaway style bike in the spirit of the Romulus. It seems there would be an opening in the market for a Romulus-style breakaway. Hitherto, the only options are a Dahon touring bike, Ritchey's Road (which accepts only up to 28mm tires), and Ritchey's cx, which has decent clearances and nice geometry specs, but has an dreaded (and ugly) crabon fork. How about a standard reach, caliper-braked, sporty road model à la the Romulus? Sounds good to me. Who's in? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zZABei1kOfMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tires for D2R2? Hetre, Fatty Rumpkin, or Col de la Vie?
I dunno, man. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I think the Hetres are nice but vastly overrated. Probably can't go wrong using them, but all the others you mention would be just as good. If I were doing that ride (I wish I were!), I'd be on 700c in the form of Jack Brown greens or cyclocross tires in the 32-35mm range, such as the Challenge Grifo XS. Whatever you choose, please post some pics of the ride! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/K9prLTtcVsUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] if you like 2TT and diagonal tubes, you're gonna love this
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[RBW] Re: ebay green Quickbeam 56 (58?)
Odd. That one came up a couple weeks ago and someone snapped it up quickly. Maybe the buyer backed out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BDwEQnkD-VQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas
It may be time to let this thread peter out. But, briefly, for those of you interested in the thermodynamics question, Taubes addresses it too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CLFR7Ctrq7sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] silver Q/R wheel skewers?
Can anyone point me to a source for silver Q/R wheel skewers, 130 rear spacing? All the better if they work particularly well with horizontal dropouts (I've been having problems with slippage under high torque). Just about everything out there these days is boring black or comes in a wild rainbow of colors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DMSrAJiyzhMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: silver Q/R wheel skewers?
So how does the 130-135 spacing work? Does 5mm of extra axle stick out beyond the end of the nut thing? I don't get it. Or do you have to hacksaw off the 5mm you don't need? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9nbOozNRTMkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride
You can get Garth's suggestion of dates with Zach's for nuts in the pre-fab form of a Lara bar. Despite the variety of flavors, they're all basically some combination of nuts and dates or other dried fruits, with no added sugar or other b.s. I like the one called cashew cookie. Peanut butter is good too, as is cherry pie. I usually crave salty things on long rides. If I want to bring real food rather than a bar, I usually bring a small sandwich of prosciutto (or jamon serrano) and cheese, like Manchego, with no condiment. I usually use french baguette as the bread, because it holds its shape, doesn't crumble, and has some toothiness to it when you bite into it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GkA_M5YRHuYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas
As I understand it, it isn't that carbs are bad. The problem is the quantity and type being consumed. Easily available fructose seems to be particularly problematic, whether it comes in the form of sugar, high fructose corn syrup, or juice drinks. Interesting research on this is being done by Dr. Robert Lustig at UCSF, which Taubes reports on in his NYT article on sugar: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?pagewanted=all -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LGdehaBQ6WUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Recomended paths to ride around RBWHQ and surrounding areas?
+1 on the Pinehurst loop, Redwood Road, etc. It's really beautiful. Oh, and the Three Bears really aren't that bearish. Don't be deterred; their bark is worse than their bite. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lGTScnfY_CsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Quickbeam on eBay
Green 56 cm: http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Quickbeam-56cm-Single-Speed-Road-Bike-/190563112421?pt=Road_Bikeshash=item2c5e7255e5#ht_500wt_1204 Not mine, no relation to seller. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mkNpZx6CLnQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I (heart) 2 TT
Will proceeds be donated to one of Rivendell's charities? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vlsTYu4eVYEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: I (heart) 2 TT
Indeed it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wK7X2eLdN88J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rim replacement suggestions?
Interesting find. I hadn't heard of these. They are about the same weight as the Velocity Synergy but with a more classic look (the A23 is considerably lighter). Let us know how your build goes. And please post some pics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F5E-yOvIBn4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rim replacement suggestions?
Rich L. at Riv has a clutch of silver A23s that he special ordered from Velocity. He can build them for you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DfZvlmYtILcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Anyone lose a Betty Foy in the greater Washington, DC area?
(suspicious Craigslist ad cross-posted from iBob list) Title: Betty Foy Antique Bicycle http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/2507970769.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8djyVALfxj0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The New Green Sam
On the subject of green paint, you know what green is beautiful? The new SimpleOne green. I saw it in person a couple weeks ago when I was in WC. The photos online don't do it justice. It's really nice olive-y green, but doesn't look too military. Seeing it in person inspired some real bike lust, and that's significant, because I previously had no desire for a single-speed bike. Now I want one! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ML4OhfG9HzkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1994 Riv
That's a beautiful bike! I love the Molteni-ish orange (but not crazy about the dark head tube). And it has a relatively horizontal TT. Yay! Unfortunately (or fortunately for my wallet), it isn't my size... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/myhDHfpV2FMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 2 top tubes - Y2TT plus (at the end of it) divisive cultural reference
If the structural integrity issues produced by the 6 degree upsloping TT are such that Grant has to make a hard sell on 2TT or compromise on strength, why not go back to nearly horizontal top tubes? My Romulus and Bleriot both seem plenty stiff with their lesser 1-2 degree upsloping TTs. When the 6-degree upslope on the Sam was announced, it seemed to me to be something of solution in search of a problem. And I was never all that crazy about the aesthetics of the 6-degree upslope. Although it's grown on me somewhat, I still prefer the look of a horizontal (or nearly-so) TT. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MTL5kKe7pHoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Are Nitto 185s strong enough for moderate off road use?
I don't understand a damn thing you just said, but as to the question in the subject line, my answer would be yes. I've been using the Nitto 176 Dream bars on fire roads for the past 4 or 5 years. Haven't snapped yet (knock on wood). From what I understand, the 176 and 185 are basically the same materials/construction, just different reach and drop dimensions. So the 185s should be fine for moderate off-road use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/riTM8fuyIDAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Google format
I dunno. I think it might be just you, because I love it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qMux-gFrCh4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: NOS romulus.
I keep hoping that they'll magically discover a 55cm Legolas in the rafters... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8XanCMW2OloJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] incredible slow loading of this site
For some reason, my interface already migrated quite awhile ago. I can't even remember what the old one looked like and certainly don't miss it! If yours hasn't migrated, you can do it yourself by clicking on the link to View this group in the new Google Groups, which should appear on the right of your screen if you're already in your group. From the main Groups page, instead, the link is called Preview the new Google Groups. Just click and go. Changing the way you choose to view it to the new Groups format should resolve loading speed issues, as the new Groups interface loads lickety split. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HOdf8cA-9K0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Carbon-ectomy using a Carbonomas fork
I'm the one who asked. Thank you for posting a followup to that thread. I appreciate hearing your experience. The fork definitely looks good on your bike. Do you know if the fork specs were roughly similar to the fork you replaced? And what 26mm tire are you using? Thanks, Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/P4yNJh5MQUwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Reader
I concur. I found the user interface of keeptrees.com to be really twitchy, counter-intuitive, and cumbersome. Gimme a simple pdf anyday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Carbonomas fork in real life?
Has anyone purchased the Carbonomas fork? And if so, what's your experience with it? How do you like it? And can you post some photos of it on your rig? The RBW site has various photos of the prototype, but I'm curious to see what the final product looks like and to hear what users think of it. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy
The Grifo XS roll beautifully on pavement! Just as well as (actually, possibly even faster than) the JB Greens, despite the nibbly knobs. And I'm not saying that to dis' the JB Greens, which I like a lot and think are really great tires. I've ridden the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix on gravel/dirt a few times and have never flatted. They don't have enough volume for gonzo trail riding, but I've done that too on a whim and didn't flat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy
Interesting. That hasn't been my experience with the Grifo XS at all. I've ridden the same trails on both Jack Brown greens and Grifo XS. For me, the small knobs offer quite a bit of grip in sections that leave the JBs slipping and spinning out. I haven't had any cornering issues on asphalt with the side knobs on the Grifos, nor has the tread peeled away. And I've used them quite a bit on pavement, riding many miles to-and-from the trailheads. I've found them to be quite durable and fast tires for any setting, and definitely preferable to similar width slicks on dirt. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Marathon Racer vs Ruffy Tuffy
For a nice tire around 28 mm wide, I'd opt for the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix, the Grand Bois Cerf, or the Roll-y Pol-y. I have limited experience with the Schwalbes (didn't like 'em) and quite a bit of experience with the Ruffy Tuffy (very durable and long-lasting, but a bit dead feeling). The three aforementioned tires are all more lively and faster, and I'm able to ride them at about 85-90 psi. If I had to chose one of the two you ask about, I'd go Ruffy Tuffy over the Marathon Racer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Grant's April 10 post
Maybe I'm missing something (or just need more coffee this morning), but I can't figure out the purpose of the orange bar tape on his Hilsen. Is it to increase bottom bracket stiffness? Is it a premonition of more frame triangulation to come, à la the Diagonapiller? A belated April Fool's joke? I'm stumped. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike
I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new signature kickstand plate. I recall seeing a photo of someone's Hilsen (maybe Cyclofiend's?) that had been CX-raced in the mud. And the kickstand plate acted as a mud shelf, piling it up high behind the seat tube. The kickstand plate seems to limit the versatility of the frame, without really giving you any significant benefits. After all, you can always add a kickstand to a frame without a plate. But you can't take a plate off a frame without labors that would require a re-paint. Other than convenience for those who use kickstands, what's to be gained by having the built-in plate? I just don't get it. I've often been tempted by the Hillborne, but I balk because of that darned kickstand plate, which is entirely useless to me, and would likely only be a liability given the sometimes-mucky off-roading I'd want to do on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
