Stem-slamming jokes aside, Esteban's test is worth trying. I used to ride 
with my bars at or above saddle height, but after some experimentation 
found that bars lower than saddle height provided a much more comfortable 
arrangement.

Note, however, that I coupled this shift in bar height with a zero setback 
seatpost in place of a standard setback post I had been using. If you lower 
your bars, you may also want to ditch your VO wayback post and replace it 
with either a normal setback post or zero setback.

On Monday, April 2, 2012 5:05:14 PM UTC-7, Bruce Curry wrote:
>
> Tis the season to be putting on more miles and I am experiencing more 
> pronounced lower back pain.  For some reason climbing makes it even 
> worse.  I feel like my bars are too far forward for me but don't wan't 
> to launch on a stem buying spree without some scientific study and 
> addl input from group members.  The facts: 
>
> 64cm Ram with the bars about 3cm over saddle height, 60cm cockpit w/a 
> 12cm stem and a VO wayback seatpost w/a brooks B17.  I am tall with 
> long torso & short arms.  When I look at my front hub thru my bars the 
> hub is about an inch ahead of the line made by the bars (but since the 
> bars are up so high this point is essentially moot).  What I think is 
> probably the most telling issue is that my knees remain about 7" away 
> from my bars (measured horizontally from each other from a purely 
> eyeballed vertical plane separating my knee from the bars).  The 
> method I used to take this measurement was to spin backwards holding 
> onto the wall looking straight down at a tape measure to judge the 
> imaginary horizontal distance from the farthest forward progress of 
> the knee. 
>
> Has anyone else faced this challenge?  Solution?  Does the "knee-bar 
> quotient" seem like a rational metric.  Anyone else care to share 
> their number? 
>
> Bruce in Seattle

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