[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

[Clayton.sf]

My experience is different. For me both Clem L and Cheviot are similar 
regarding effort to speed ratio. I have not found the Cheviot any speedier 
than the Clem. The Clem does better in rough stuff and is an equal on the 
road. Cheviot is easier to mount and dismount with load. Both are NOT bikes 
I would take on unloaded "spirited" rides. Sure, I have done 100k ride on 
the Cheviot just because, but my 100k times on my Boulder or Blackmountain 
are significantly faster. 

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 1:51:01 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Joyce, 
>
> I've owned 4 Clems (2 L, 2 H) and a Cheviot - which probably means I have 
> a problem, but that's another story! 浪 - and think I can double-up a bit 
> on Leah's thoughts. 
>
> The Chev is often misunderstood as a cruiser/tourer-type bike because of 
> the mixte look but in reality it's a light-ish, stiff-ish road bike with 
> road brakes. 
>
> I think it's a perfect compliment to your Clem set up with alu bars, stem 
> and post, and maybe don't load it down with front and rear racks and a 
> bunch of bags. Fenders are fine and maybe a rear rack to support a 
> medium-ish saddlebag is good. Go for it!  

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[RBW] Re: PSA Clem Smith Jr/Clememtine Sacramento Craigslist with interesting ad

[Clayton.sf]

Or maybe they are currently out of work and this is a way to feed their 
family for a few more days.
Don't know the seller, but have a few friends struggling right now or soon 
and I would be the last to judge them for a move like this.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 12:34:40 PM UTC-7, BRETT ROBINSON wrote:
>
> Yeah, pretty lame...
>
> On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 10:53:28 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> I hope this person who also owns an Atlantis and clearly knows what they 
>> bought is willing to budge a LOT off that price. Not to me, I don't need 
>> it, but someone who could have paid $700 and enjoyed a nice bike to ride. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52 Clem H Mustard

[Clayton.sf]

Price drop. $800. shipped to CONUS. 

Clayton Scott
HBG,CA

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:58:02 PM UTC-7, Clayton.sf wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Have a 52cm Clem Mustard H frame (high top tube) for sale.
> It is in almost new condition except for a scratch in the downbube.
> Straight, never crashed, no rust and frame savered.
> One thing to note is that it takes a 27.0 seat post. This is how it came 
> to me straight from Rivendell HQ.
> I am including a Nitto Crystal Fellow (single bolt) in 27.0 250mm with it 
> (or a black vintage XT post 330mm also made by nitto if you need a longer 
> one).
> Headset and BB are included too.
> $850 shipped to CONUS. Attached some pictured of the full the build.
>
> Best,
> Clayton Scott
> HBG, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Cheap Sam Hillborne or another Riv

[Clayton.sf]

Have a 52 Clem H for sale for 850. Like new with one scratch. Comes with 
post, hs, bb.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 12:20:47 PM UTC-7, Eric G@rs wrote:
>
> I have a 2018 55cm black and cream canti Sam available with Shimano brakes 
> and Clem rack included for $1200. I’m open to offers if you think that’s 
> too steep. 

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[RBW] Link to 2017 Geomety Charts

[Clayton.sf]

Try waybackmachine.com

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Vaughn's custom for sale

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The backdrop is awesome too! Statue of liberty 45 adapter? 

Blew out my residential speakers earlier this year. Luckily have a decent setup 
in the barn, but I miss the vinyl. A few more months...

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[RBW] Re: Walking boots -- not entirely unrelated to cycling

[Clayton.sf]

Redwing is an overpriced hipster boot with an amazing history these days. 
Beckhams and Iron Rangers are perfect for the lumbersexual look and a 10 
minute, dry weather walk to the next artisanal coffee roastery ;-). Very 
pretty, but for actual boot use you can do better with spending less. For any 
real hiking I wear low top trail runners and redbacks for anything that needs 
more debris blocking and a tad more protection.  

Clayton Scott
HBG. CA

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[RBW] Re: Walking boots -- not entirely unrelated to cycling

[Clayton.sf]

Personally I like Redbacks over either rossi or blunnies (had them all). I 
got 10 years of use out of a slip on redback boot. Would have lasted longer 
if it wasn't for a salt water bath. They also make lace up versions. 
Fantastic boots, but very different from the original requirements of the 
OP.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA


On Friday, February 21, 2020 at 1:42:09 PM UTC-8, Will Ashe wrote:
>
> I’ve also heard good things about the similar Rossi brand, which is made 
> in Australia and assumably of better quality than Blundstones. 

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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[Clayton.sf]

Getting a longer binder bolt and using a Mafac hanger might be another 
solution as it bolts to the outside rather than into the slot. Like this 
one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/291709320587.

Or get a longer bold that sticks our a little and bolt the Nitto hanger to 
the side. This will put the brake cable at an angle but depending on frame 
side it might not matter much. 

Personally, I'd just get a new frame.

Clayton Scott,
HBG, CA



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[RBW] Re: Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[Clayton.sf]

If it is a 26.8 you may be able to flex hone the ST to get a 27.2 in there 
(Handwringers need not apply). Also Nitto makes 27.0 posts, not sure about 
27.4. 

Clayton  Scott 
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Advice Needed: Best Remedy for a Slipping Hunqapillar Seatpost

[Clayton.sf]

I have had good luck with a seatpost size larger by 0.2mm. 

Carbon friction paste is an option too.

Clayton Scott 
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[RBW] Re: Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

[Clayton.sf]

If silver is a priority a basic (not narrow wide) non-pinned and ramped 
ring will likely work just fine. If you end up dropping chains frequently 
adding a chainkeeper would help keep it on. 

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 5:54:56 AM UTC-8, tc wrote:
>
> I'm contemplating a 1x8/9 setup, and cannot seem to find a narrow-wide 
> chain ring that meets all of these criteria:
>
>- 36+ teeth
>- 5-bolt 110 bcd (not deal breaker, but nice to reuse existing arms)
>- Fits non-direct mount, square taper JIS crank arms, like the Silver 
>or Sugino brand cranks many of of us have already
>- 8/9/10 spd chain compatibility
>- Silver color (anodized or polished)
>- Good quality
>
> Hopefully some of you have searched for something like this before and 
> found it.
>
> Sugino doesn't seem to make narrow-wide rings, or at least Google 
> Translator and their pictures lead you to believe that.
>
> Raceface & Wolftooth don't make this in silver.  As an aside: Wolftooth 
> recommends using a 10spd chain in 1x9 setups so the (slightly tighter) 
> chain holds their ring better.
>
> VO doesn't seems to offer a narrow-wide ring.
>
> Hope doesn't offer this in silver.
>
> I love White Ind. cranks and rings, but they're direct-mount arms.
>
> Some company could fill a niche here, I'm thinking...
>
> I have a Sugino XD3BX-701D 
>  46/36 on order, 
> which I may end up using for a 2x setup instead, but wanted to see if any 
> of you have found a 1x crank and narrow-wide ring per above. 
>
> Thanks for your thoughts, and Happy New Year!
> Tom
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA - 1997 All-Rounder on Bay Area CL (not mine)

[Clayton.sf]

I am happy to facilitate shipping, packing, and transaction. I am Oakland 
once a week. PM if desired.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 4:10:44 PM UTC-8, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>
> I despair of ever finding an All-Rounder that's a) my size (56-58cm) and 
> b) close enough to Virginia to actually drive out and buy it.  In the 
> meantime, however, I found this one (
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-1997-rivendell-all-rounder/7054426342.html)
>  
> that's currently on the Bay Area Craigslist; given how quickly these get 
> snapped up, I figured someone in the group might be interested.
>
> Kevin Lindsey
> Alexandria, VA
> USA
>

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[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

[Clayton.sf]

Love the tires. Not a fan of the cranks at all.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 4:04:03 PM UTC-8, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> Hey, Y'all:
>
> Pic of new Nobilette ROADEO on the site, with RH crankset and RH tires. So 
> there ya go!
>
> All good, right?
>
> Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto clamps

[Clayton.sf]

Likely have some kicking around too. What forkleg circumference are they to 
clamp around?

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

[Clayton.sf]

Some *subjective *counterpoints.

Owned an MIT Atlantis, Cheviot and still own a Clem H.

All of the above bikes would be my last choice for "spirited" unloaded 
climbing when choosing from my stable.

My Boulder, Black Mountain Cyles, Hampsten, and Jones all climb with less 
perceived exertion on my part and at a higher average speed. 

It is not that the Riv models above are bad climbers but they do require 
more effort (for me) for the same speed.
To me they are great loaded multi-purpose bike but they are not (to me) 
"go-fast" bikes.

On the flipside the Boulder, BMC, and Hampsten would all be inferior 
heavily loaded. 

The Quickbeam on the other hand never felt like it was holding me back on 
hills.


Clayton Scott
HBG, CA




On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 4:29:13 PM UTC-8, LBleriot wrote:
>
> Let me rephrase.  I wouldn't climb any alpine pass unless it's in a 
> funicular or a BMW M3.
>
> On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 4:18:28 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> LBleriot said of long chain stay bikes: "I wouldn't climb any alpine 
>> passes on these bikes."
>>
>> Based on what? I've climbed (and descended) countless alpine passes, 
>> roads and technical trails, with mine and it climbs and descends 
>> brilliantly.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>

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[RBW] Can we talk about long wheelbases?

[Clayton.sf]

I think the "where" of length matters. Very long chainstays are not something I 
like offroad as it prevents the front wheel to be lifted which can be 
problematic and unfun. My Jones plus LWB is a fantastic offroad bike with a 
long wheelbase, the front wheel can still easily be lifted. Taking a Cheviot or 
Clem on trails works too but not nearly as well due to the long stays that make 
lifting the front a chore at best. 
Long stays do indeed smooth out the ride but if they are so long that they make 
the bike suitable only for smoother trails where that smoothness is less needed 
then what is the point?
Longer front center pkus puffy tires with short stem makes a lot more sense for 
offroad LWB bikes according to me.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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[RBW] 2020 Goals

[Clayton.sf]

I'll play!

Goals:

Rearrange schedule to allow for 2 bike riding mornings per week.

Join the 1,000lb club (combined bench, squat, deadlift totalling 1,000lb or 
more).

Make more beer and cider.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Clayton.sf]

I am 6' with saddle height (measured from center of bb to top in a straight 
line along the seat tube) of 76cm. I ride a 58cm monstercross (rim brake). With 
a 100mm stem this fits great with minimal spacers. Could ride a size up but 
prefer the 58cm. Hope this data point helps. I is a fantastic frame and while 
it may lack some of the flourishes of pricier frames its ride quality leaves 
nothing to be desired for me.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Re: Gus & Susie/Wolbis "Ride Feel" contribution thread

[Clayton.sf]

Bontrager Chupacabra is quite supple too. 

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 9:06:02 AM UTC-8, Mark Schneider wrote:
>
> Thanks for your impressions. Tire selection is the one area I'm totally 
> unsure about.I'm fine with a 2.5-2.8 size but I wonder if anyone makes a 
> "supple" tire in that range. Many of the tires come in around 1000 grams 
> which seems a bit much.(I ordered a large Susie Slug)So I'll be on 29inch 
> wheels.
>
> Mark
> Pescadero
>
> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 1:40:21 PM UTC-8, ant ritchey wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks. I was lucky enough to be part of the Rivelo-Grant-Hillibike 
>> meet up yesterday.
>>
>> I have been lightly discussing the XL Susie in an email thread with other 
>> list members but thought I'd bring it here since I had the good fortune of 
>> being part of the event. My review won't be a super well-written one. It 
>> may also not be the most linear recollection of facts/feelings but I 
>> thought to get a thread going based on actual rider experience with the new 
>> batch of Rivs, being that they're now available for pre-order. Here's my 
>> quick recap to get things started:
>>
>> I rode the XL Susie. The bike had 29x2.8" knobbies which felt super 
>> plush, PSI unknown. I really expected the big long bike to "start up" a 
>> little slower but that was not the case! I spun a few blocks around Rivelo; 
>> jumped some curbs and whatnot. The bike felt quick. I did not take note of 
>> chainring size/ cassette spread but I did have the bike in highest gear 
>> rather quickly. I also thought the front end would feel way more stretched 
>> out but it did not. The bike had Billie bars and what seemed like a 
>> 90/100mm quill stem. I'd have preferred something of the flatter/more 
>> MTB-ey variety and maybe a 110mm stem. I'd have REALLY preferred to be able 
>> to ride some trails, some steep ups & downs but hey- I was happy to have 
>> the opportunity to ride one and rap with Grant a bit about the bike.
>>
>> For the those "maximum rubber" types out there like myself - with the 
>> 2.8" Teravail knobby tire, still plenty of room to go bigger. I'd guess a 
>> 3" would fit without issue, maybe larger. I could fit my index finger 
>> almost up to the first knuckle on either side at the chainstays where 
>> clearances were tightest. Seatstay & fork crown: clearance for days. Not 
>> trying to undermine any one or thing jhere; just sayin' that if I get one 
>> of these bikes I'll definitely be trying to go for 3".
>>
>> All in all the bike felt excellent. I haven't ridden a Jones or Big 
>> Dummy. I have owned several RIv's and vintage MTB's with longer chainstays 
>> but this was my first experience with a 50cm+ chainstay and it felt really, 
>> really good. No one can argue with you if you simply don't love the look of 
>> the long-chainstay-ed bicycle. If you think Grant's being ridiculous (and 
>> I'm guessing most of the haters haven't ridden the long chainstay 
>> iterations of the newer Riv models), you should really try one with your 
>> pretenses aside. These really are fantastic riding bikes.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Berthoud Aspin/Aravis replacement leather top, black

[Clayton.sf]

I think  this is the first time I have seen a saddle leather sale on this or 
the iBOB list.

CS
HbG, Ca

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[RBW] WTB: Thick Washer for Nitto Rack

[Clayton.sf]

Hi All,

Wondering if anyone has a pair they'd part with.
This is what I am looking for: 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/rack-hardware-thick-washer-spacer-each
.

Many thanks!

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Question about wide tire fit on 700c rims

[Clayton.sf]

700c = 29"

Same thing and tires will be just fine on cliffhangers.

CSHBGCA

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[RBW] Re: Adding Seatpost QR to Riv

[Clayton.sf]

Nah. Those things don't work. I use to tie some string between saddle rails and 
seat stays. That made it really easy to find the right height fast after having 
lowered the post. But then I got lazy and just high-posted it. Now the mtb has 
a dropper and I use it all the time, so I am thinking of giving the manual 
dropper another try.

CSHBGCA

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[RBW] Re: Adding Seatpost QR to Riv

[Clayton.sf]

Interesting. Would definitely want to fill the hex bolt space to avoid 
effin up the paint.

Guess a trip to the hardware store is in the near future.

CSHBGCA



On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 12:20:11 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
>
>   The QR that Riv uses are not anything special, I asked. They clamp 
> on/over each side in total. The hex bolt space doesn't get filled in, so if 
> perfect paint is your thing this is not for you as it's gonna get scuffed.  
>
>   I'd get a steel one myself, like this : 
>
> https://thebikeshopstore.com/categories/sunlite-seat-binder-quick-release-6-x-50-60mm-chromoly-steel
>
>
> <https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-804sw/images/stencil/500x659/products/39270/318240/51299__05772.1403893389.jpg>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 1:33:43 PM UTC-4, Clayton.sf wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Has anyone successfully added a Quick Release Seatpost binder to a 
>> Rivendell frame?
>>
>> I feel like I know what I need in general. QR that is long/short enough 
>> that mates with the nut on the other side and some spacers/washers that fit 
>> into the space where the hex bolt head usually sits. What I don't (yet) 
>> know is what exactly I should use. If anyone has setup that they like 
>> particularly well let me know. It will likely save me some trial and error.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Clayton Scott
>> HBG, CA
>>
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[RBW] Adding Seatpost QR to Riv

[Clayton.sf]

Hi All,

Has anyone successfully added a Quick Release Seatpost binder to a 
Rivendell frame?

I feel like I know what I need in general. QR that is long/short enough 
that mates with the nut on the other side and some spacers/washers that fit 
into the space where the hex bolt head usually sits. What I don't (yet) 
know is what exactly I should use. If anyone has setup that they like 
particularly well let me know. It will likely save me some trial and error.

Thanks,
Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

[Clayton.sf]

Yes, I can dig it.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

[Clayton.sf]

I feel like slippage has little to do with bar weight or stem length.
If you want less slip then you need to increase friction between stem and bar. 
A larger diameter bar/stem interface (31.8mm or 35mm) accomplishes this most 
elegantly. Friction paste and torque are other means. More exotic solutions are 
bullmoose style stems (Nitto makes some) that clamp bars in two instead of one 
area. 

Clayton Scott 
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

[Clayton.sf]

@Justin underneath the bar sleeve there are likely two slits/holes. Squirt some 
wd40 or t9 in there and the creaking should stop.

CS HBG CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

[Clayton.sf]

Doubt they are defective. I think it has more to do with how and where a person 
rides. Some friction paste and judicious overtorquing of stem bolt should 
mostly solve it.

CSHBGCA 

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[RBW] Re: Issues with slipping bosco bars?

[Clayton.sf]

Go to a   bike shop instead. It is usually sold to install carbon seatposts and 
bars that are sensitive to over torquing. Often they even have some free 
samples in which case you can buy tire lever, cable, or tube.

CSHBGCA 

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Re: [RBW] Issues with slipping bosco bars?

[Clayton.sf]

Surprised to hear about this. Never had a single out of spec Nitto item nor 
have I ever seen one in person and there have been plenty coming through my 
hands. Only ones I am even aware of are some bars that were stamped with the 
wrong width.

CSHBGCA

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[RBW] For sale - Gilles Berthoud Arabesque saddle - black. Used on one ride

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Meant thanks for clarifying.

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[RBW] For sale - Gilles Berthoud Arabesque saddle - black. Used on one ride

[Clayton.sf]

I'll pass in this case. That is for clarifying.

Cshbgca

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[RBW] For sale - Gilles Berthoud Arabesque saddle - black. Used on one ride

[Clayton.sf]

Can't find this model. If it is an Aravis  or Aspin though  without the cutout 
I will take it though.

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[RBW] For sale - Gilles Berthoud Arabesque saddle - black. Used on one ride

[Clayton.sf]

Can't find this model. Is it aravis  instead? If yes, I'll take it.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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Re: [RBW] Issues with slipping bosco bars?

[Clayton.sf]

The technomic with its steel backing plat will handle a good amount of over 
torquing. Same with the sleeved boscos. Grease stem bolt and underneath bolt 
head and apply friction paste. 

Cshbgca

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Re: [RBW] Issues with slipping bosco bars?

[Clayton.sf]

There is a reason bullnoose bars made sense.

Clayton Scott
HbG, CA

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Re: [RBW] Issues with slipping bosco bars?

[Clayton.sf]

When I ride the bike, boscos and Albas and bullhorns and anything else with 
that kind of lever will slip in a 25.4 or 26 stem if tightened per torque 
recommended and interfaced properly. Overtorquing and friction paste are ways 
to minimize this and even that is no guarantee. 

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Issues with slipping bosco bars?

[Clayton.sf]

One of the main reasons 31.8makes more sense. Slips substantially less.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

[Clayton.sf]

Mine failed at the freehub bearings. Twice!

CSHBGCA

On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 1:33:21 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
>
>
> Checking on the XT hubs from here : 
> https://www.kstoerz.com/freespoke/hubs?MfgId=4=135.0 and looking up 
> the diagrams it seems the aluminum axle versions are 770 and above. The 
> issues seem related to the freehub and springs breaking, not the axle or 
> bearing size.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

[Clayton.sf]

Atlantis takes 135mm hubs unless you respace it.

Best,
Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:36:53 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> This is a pretty good price on a set of White/ H-Son wheels 32/32
>
>
> https://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info=235_357_id=2368=57p1usqe5ad2csa55h9k1vl7d2
>
> rear hub is more road oriented but wieght is a littless.
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-4, John Casteen wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> Good question.  My bikes are set up with the hubs you're asking about-- 
>> Deore XT on one, White Industries on another.  (My rims are different, so 
>> can't really comment there.)  I don't think you'll experience a difference 
>> in ride quality per se; they're all good.  But if you put on a lot of miles 
>> and/or ride in especially challenging conditions-- trail, wet, like that-- 
>> you'll spend less time off the bike servicing the higher-end hubs.  
>>
>> On my own and other people's bikes used off-road, rears tend to wear more 
>> quickly than fronts.  If you're looking for a compromise, you could spend 
>> up on the rear and down on the front.  But if I were in your position and 
>> building up a lifer wheel set, I'd go for the Whites.  Mine (rear) has been 
>> terrific, and has been ridden hard.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 1:33:43 PM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks to all for your insights.  While everyone notes that the high end 
>>> hubs are bulletproof and potentially will last a lifetime, no one's really 
>>> commented on ride quality and whether one should expect a difference 
>>> between the XT say and the higher end ones.  I'm not a weight weenie so the 
>>> extra ounces are not an issue for me.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 9:20:43 AM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:

 I'm building up a new-to-me MIT Atlantis.  My best guess is that this 
 is my final build short of deciding to have a custom frame built for me, 
 which is unlikely.  As a result, I'm willing to spend somewhat more on 
 components that I otherwise would.  I've been thinking about the wheels I 
 want and would be grateful for advice.  Are Velocity rims and Deore hubs 
 more than sufficient -- in other words would I notice any difference in 
 the 
 short- or longer-term if I use more upscale hubs such as Phil Wood, Chris 
 King, White Industries or Shimano XTR?  For rims, I've been thinking about 
 using Velocity Atlas as I'll be riding on and off-road in the desert 
 southwest.  Are there other rims I should consider?  Thanks for your input.

 Steve Cole



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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

[Clayton.sf]

Bought my hub in 2014. Model was: Shimano FH-T780 XT Rear Hub (36H Rear, 
Silver)

Hope this helps. I did some research when it happened and there were a few 
other people having issues. 
I talked about this before on the bob list or rbw list and linked to some 
of the sources.

Best,
Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:47:22 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> All: Has Clayton's experience been a common one? I ask because I recently 
> had the rear wheel for the Matthews rebuilt with an XT hub, which I assume 
> is the current model; I have no idea what the current model's designation 
> is, and when it was introduced.
>
> No hint of problems so far, but then I've not put many miles on it yet -- 
> a few hundred. An entirely cursory Google-verb-transitive search found 
> several problem conversations from 10 or more years ago, and only 1, from 
> 2016, about the seizure problem.
>
> https://forum.cyclinguk.org/viewtopic.php?t=108592
>
> Clayton: Were yours 2016 models?
>
> All: Is the current model the same one?
>
> Patrick Moore, desperately hoping Clayton's hub was a total outlier, in 
> ABQ, NM.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 12:42 PM Clayton.sf  > wrote:
>
>> ...
>>
>> I recommend not using Shimano hubs in the rear; especially not the 
>> current XT version. I have had two of their recent XT freehubs seize up 
>> turning the bike into a fixed wheel.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

[Clayton.sf]

He did mention he is willing to spend more. 

I suggest building your own wheels to save on labor and learn a valuable 
skill. It is not hard to do and you can get the tools for less than what a 
build will cost these days.

I recommend not using Shimano hubs in the rear; especially not the current 
XT version. I have had two of their recent XT freehubs seize up turning the 
bike into a fixed wheel. First time was coming down a hill. Only fast 
pedaling and quick reaction saved the bike and myself from incurring major 
damage. Never had an issue with White and Schmidt hubs. Paul and DT in 350 
or 240 are fantastic too, but Paul does not make a rear cassette hub and DT 
no longer makes non-disc 135 hubs. Phil cassette hubs have had their share 
of issues so I'd pass on them unless you are building a single speed or 
fixed gear. The fixed/ss hubs they make are amazing.

Clayton Scott,
HBG, CA




On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 9:47:09 AM UTC-7, Pancake wrote:
>
> Very nice picks Clayton! A bit pricy though:
> $323 for MI5 hub
> $275 for Schmidt hub
> $180 for two cliffhanger rims
> $57 for 64 Spain strong spokes
> Plus build and shipping costs for some dream wheels.
>
> I was looking at something that looks similar with Cliffhanger or Voyager 
> rims, Shutter Precision or Shimano 3N72 dynamo, and DT or Spain double 
> butted 2.0-1.8-2.0 spokes ... about $450 built. 
>

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[RBW] Advice Sought on Hubs and Rim Choice

[Clayton.sf]

Personally I would go with White industries MI5 rear hub laced to cliffhangers 
with Sapim Strong spokes in the rear with a wide body Schmidt generator hub 
laced to the same rim with the same spokes. 32h and 3 cross on both wheels.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Re: OT: non-bike hobbies

[Clayton.sf]

On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 8:19:14 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>
> I feel like this has come up before but could only find a thread from 
> 2010: what are your non-bike hobbies? Particularly anyone with young kids 
> that suck up all your other time or involve them. I haven't been riding 
> since an accident earlier this year. My wife says I need a hobby. I don't 
> disagree. Bonus points if it's thrifty, because damn I've spent a lot of 
> money at Rivendell over the years.
>

Lifting weights. Last year I put a power rack into my garage, bought a 
barbell and some weights and have been having a blast with it. Equipment 
can be found used relatively cheap but the investment in your health is 
huge. Happy to provide more info if interested.

Clayton Scott
HBGCA

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[RBW] Re: Hollowtech Homer

[Clayton.sf]

Been riding 165s on my ss mtb for years and always felt like I had enough 
leverage. 

It is only a ~6% difference in length going from 175 to 165. My breakfast 
likely matters more for leverage.

Nice wide bars on the other hand did feel like an improvement.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 2:56:52 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I've recently been experimenting with 165, 155, 152 and 145 cranks (80-ish 
> PBH). I can't vouch for dirt riding or climbing long monster paved hills, 
> but I detect no leverage difference in general town riding. I rock less on 
> the saddle and it saves my knees, I think shorter is better. 

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[RBW] Re: Hollowtech Homer

[Clayton.sf]

Been riding 165s on my SS mtb for years and never felt like I was lacking 
leverage either. It is "only" a ~6% difference in length after all. My 
breakfast likely matters more.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 2:56:52 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I've recently been experimenting with 165, 155, 152 and 145 cranks (80-ish 
> PBH). I can't vouch for dirt riding or climbing long monster paved hills, 
> but I detect no leverage difference in general town riding. I rock less on 
> the saddle and it saves my knees, I think shorter is better. 

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[RBW] Re: Hollowtech Homer

[Clayton.sf]

Regarding crank length - I prefer them 165-170. Tried 175 but liked them 
less. Some of it may be what I am used to, although I have zero issues 
switching back and forth from 165 to 170.  I am 6' tall and of average 
proportion. 

Unlike Rivendell, I feel like crank length is a matter of personal 
preference rather than rider height although rider height is likely a good 
starting point. Riding terrain, riding style, and bike matters more than 
rider height IMO. Shorter will always give more relative ground clearance.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA








On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 11:06:16 AM UTC-7, aeroperf wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, and this is the discussion I was looking for.
>
> What I ended up with is the FD-3030 road derailleur when an outer 
> chainring of 46 teeth and up is installed, and an FD-M611 when an outer 
> chainring of 44 teeth or less is installed.  This was more because the 
> geometry of my 51 Homer got the road cage close to the chainstay with a 
> small outer ring.  I mentioned the Riv chainline because it was a “learning 
> experience”.
>
> The reason I went all the way back to the M590 crankset was because it 
> came in enough variations so I could mix and match chainrings.  I’ve never 
> had a 650b bike, and it may take some wearing into shape.  But I have 
> noticed that some 3x9-speed Shimano Deore quality parts are getting rare in 
> the US - like the FD-M591 or the M590 crank.  Also, the “Trekking” sets I 
> mentioned only seem to be available in the EU.
>
> So I broadened the topic to 10-speed.  There is now a raft of 10-speed 
> Hollowtech equipment, so I wondered who was using what.  Longer cranks seem 
> to be getting popular, along with smaller outer chainrings and 2-speed 
> front ends.
> I’ve noticed that as Shimano goes the industry tends to follow, so I want 
> to hear folks’ opinions.
>

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[RBW] Hollowtech Homer

[Clayton.sf]

I am all for 1x, hollow tech (or similar), 165-170 cranks, 1 speeds or 12 
speeds or any in between speeds, threadless headsets and stems, non-leather 
saddles, synthetic grips and tape, indexing or friction, and whatever trail on 
any of my bikes including rivs. That stuff all works wonderfully and lasts just 
fine, despite all the armchair handwringing.

Clayton Scott
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[RBW] Re: "yoko" salmon brakepads?

[Clayton.sf]

have used both brands over the years and have never been able to detect any 
performance difference between their salmon pads. both work well for me. I am 
not a brake guy though.

clayton Scott
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[RBW] FS: 2018 MIT Atlantis 59cm

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Frame SPF.

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[RBW] WTB: Threadless Bosco Moose and Stoker Stem

[Clayton.sf]

Hi All,

Proud new owner of a Riv tandem and looking for 2 parts to make it even 
better.
Completely aware that this is a very looong shot.

1. Threadless version of a Bosco Moose bar
2. That moose-esque stem that came with the first run of tandems that was 
made by Nitto.

PM if anyone wants to part with theirs.

thanks!

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW at 25: The Fellowship of the Rigs

[Clayton.sf]

Had an amazing time too! Not sure why I look so miserable in the picture.
Found some beers too but those are now gone.

Clayton 
HBG, CA




On Monday, July 29, 2019 at 3:18:07 PM UTC-7, Bill Rhea wrote:
>
> Whaddya know?
>
> It was a super-fun weekend at the FOTR campout!  Truly a pleasure meeting 
> everybody!
>
> -br
>
> On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 11:40:35 AM UTC-7, Jimmy Warren wrote:
>>
>> Ah! Upon closer inspection, way in the back, Bill Rhea made the photo too!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Collin A  wrote:
>>
>> So many sacks...
>>
>> On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 10:15:46 AM UTC-7, Jimmy Warren wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> My contribution to the pictures proving that it happened, Eight Rivs and 
>>> Clayton (and cutoff Andre and Joe -sorry!) Shafter Bridge, southern end of 
>>> the Cross Marin Trail:
>>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>>
>>> And what a great weekend! So much fun seeing old friends, making new 
>>> ones, riding familiar trails, and finding new ones. And I never veered out 
>>> of the Olema-Fairfax dirt corridor!
>>>
>>> - Jimmy W.
>>>
>>> P.S. 3 Hunqs, 2 Atlanti, Legolas, Hillborne, Clem - wow!
>>>
>>> On Jul 23, 2019, at 10:49 AM, REC (Roberta)  wrote:
>>>
>>> I already received my patch and it's as good a quality as you'd expect 
>>> from Philip, i.e.,  Riv quality.
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 22, 2019 at 10:33:05 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, I turned the RBWXXV patches back on in the Etsy shop, if anyone 
>>> missed out. https://etsy.me/2SyXP7j 
>>> I didn’t want to over-book at the campout, and I’ve saved some for 
>>> Rivendell staff. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW at 25: The Fellowship of the Rigs

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Sweet! Philip, Joe and Esteban are in charge! 

See you all Friday!

Clayton, HBG

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[RBW] Re: Possible FS/ FT 58 Joe App

[Clayton.sf]

It has disc tabs?

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 5:45:08 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
>
> Hey group,  just seeing if someone might be interested in a 58 Joe App( 
> Silver) or a trade for your 59 Clem.   Looking for more tire clearance!   
>  It has disc tabs/ Canti bosses.I’m thinking $950( which includes 
> shipping) or straight trade for a Clem.   For some reason I can’t figure 
> out how to post some pics,  but have them if you’re interested.Thank 
> you!-Mike 
>
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[RBW] Re: Who Blugs a Ride?

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Sometimes you ask for the Potis and you get them.

Clayton Scott
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On Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 3:54:01 PM UTC-7, jandrews wrote:
>
> Who rides an Appaloosa?
>
> That new blug update is wining a lot of gold stars from me.
> from the Rodin-esque thinking persons' countenance to the respectful 
> taking of the knee.
> I can't say it's one-upping the previous blug post - Who Rides an A.H.H. - 
> but it definitely makes for a solid 2 for 2.
>
> That bike is also a special build.
>
> Curious if you all can help ID some things.
> If those are Rocket Rons, they are either 29x 2.1 or 29x2.25.
> Any thoughts as to which
> Also what are the rims?  Can't tell.
>
> I've got my new Appaloosa set up similarly with friction 3x9 and 2.1 
> knobbier under fenders but I'd like to go a little fatter and wider. 
>  working on putting a wheel set together, maybe with Cliffhangers to do 
> that.   hence my question 'bout those rims.
>
> Loving these "Who Rides a" blugs.  Maybe there will be a "Who Rides a 
> Canti-Romulus" one of these days.
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[RBW] Re: Paul motolite reviews?

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I think this may also have something to do with the levers I used (Tektro 
linear drop levers), but the "grabbyness" made them almost scary offroad 
when I needed to slow down a little but not stop. You hit a bump which 
caused hands squeezing the lever just a tad more and the wheels would 
temporarily lock up. Never crashed because of it but did switch back to 
cantis after a few sketchy incidents. I really like the mini motos which 
exhibit none of the "on/off" characteristics for me but offer excellent 
power when needed and plenty of modulations to control speed (tire choice 
is more limited though). Again, my experience with the Motolites may have 
been lever related and could likely be further changed with different pads 
(I used the stock thinlines).

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA





 

On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 8:11:50 AM UTC-7, phil k wrote:
>
> Paul motolites are very powerful brakes. I had them on my Hunqapillar a 
> couple of years ago. It's one of the most powerful mechanical brakes I've 
> used. The response is very immediate, easy to set up. and very robust.
>
> The flipside, when you brake it engages very quickly, giving a grabby 
> feel. This happened even on my polished Atlas rims.
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 7:13:12 PM UTC-4, Justin Schoop wrote:
>>
>> Thinking about upgrading to the Paul motolite brakes but would love to 
>> hear opinions of them. Thanks!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rides and activities for FotR / Rivmoot / RBWXXV Rivendell Anniversary Campout / Meetup

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I like the proposal. Have done this ride a few times from SF. Mostly dirt 
but all tame. Usually rode up railroad grade, then traversed on pavement to 
BoRidge then down Shafter, swim at inkwells, off to STP.  Will be coming 
down from Healdsburg and likely catch the train too.

Looking forward to this!

Clayton



On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> *Rivmoot 2019 is the weekend of July 19-21. *
> I believe there is room for 30 people officially, and three cars. Justin 
> August can confirm nights, number of sites, and total possible guests. 
>
> Details (Everyone is invited!): 
> *Samuel P Taylor Park, at the Devil's Gulch Group Camps 
> . *That's in Marin County, California, 
> in the woods near both the coast and Mount Tam (cradle of mountain biking). 
> It's bikeable from SF and BART/Ferry/Bike-able from the East Bay. 
>
> I'm happy to lead a North Bay ride to/from SPT (Samuel P Taylor) by bike 
> and SMART train . I live in Santa 
> Rosa, but we can meet on the train. 
> We could convene at the Iron Horse Brewery in San Rafael to link up with 
> people from the next train, if necessary. Route is TBD: probably Mill 
> Valley / Mt Tam / Bo Ridge on the way in, and a deadhead run out Sir 
> Francis Drake on Sunday. 
>
> What riding would people like to do out there? I imagine there will be 
> some pretty epic loops, but also mellower tours of the cheese-making scene 
> out in West Marin. For Saturday, I probably want to ride something Joe 
> Bunik puts together. Can't get enough of those mines! 
>
>
> Philip 
> Santa Rosa, CA 
>
>  
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

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Another nice set of Cantis were the recent iteration Campagnolo put out. I 
believe they were made for them by Tektro.

They are the best cantis I have ever uses and I continue to have them on 2 
bikes (have used Pauls, Shimano, Empella, Mafac in the past). I don't think 
they are in production anymore but you might get lucky used.

Here the model I am referring to (not my listing or anyone I know): 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Campagnolo-CX-cantilever-brakes-black-good-condition/254200384346?hash=item3b2f860b5a:g:RVkAAOSw1LdctCdQ

Best,
Clayton Scott
HBG, CA






On Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 5:00:01 PM UTC-7, Erik Wright wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about getting canti posts brazed onto my sidepull Sam 
> Hillborne to fit a wider tire / make wide tire installation easier. Canti 
> brakes would be replacing Paul Racers.
>
> If I go this route, what are the best options out there? I figure top of 
> the line is Paul, but what's a more affordable brake? I see a lot of 
> chatter around Shimano CX70, but hear they're discontinued. Is there a 
> comparable option available now, or does it make sense to hunt down a used 
> set of CX70s? If I splurge on Neo Retros, am I gaining anything 
> functionally over other options?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Erik, Philly
>

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[RBW] recommendation for a flared drop bar with 25.4 clamp size

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Salsa Cowchipper! With the right levers it is an amazing bar.

Clayton Scott
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[RBW] Re: What is maximum stem height on Joe Appaloosa 51cm?

[Clayton.sf]

There should be some minimum insertion / max height marks on the stem. 
Usually some vertical lines. Insert stem until you can't see them to get to 
max height. 

Hope this helps.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA


On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 1:45:33 PM UTC-7, REC (Roberta) wrote:
>
> What is maximum stem height on Joe Appaloosa 51cm?I'd like my 
> handlebars up at least another inch.  
>
> I've attached two pictures, because I don't know where to properly 
> measure. 
>
> Thanks, 
> Roberta
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[RBW] Towing a kid bike?

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Ghost ride it! Seriously!

Clayton Scott
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[RBW] Re: Ethics Question

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You swap the cranks, THEN tell her what you did. Forgiveness vs. 
permission, etc.


Clayton Scott
HBG, CA




On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 at 10:43:45 AM UTC-8, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> Serious issue here and I need guidance.  
>
> My wife’s Betty Foy has a beautiful Suntour XC crank on it. My Saluki has 
> a beautiful but more industrial 80s Shimano crank on it. 
>
> Is it ethical to pillage her Foy for the crank?
>
> Justin
>

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[RBW] Seeking hearty, weatherproof duffle bag

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check bailey works' whale mouth. It is cordura and available with a waterproof 
liner. 

Clayton Scott
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[RBW] Re: Roadini handlebar ideas

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for the past year Inahve really come to prefer salsa cowchipper bars over 
noodles or compass rando bars. With the right levers they are most excellent. 
all personal preference though..


clayton scott
hbg, CA

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[RBW] Hip Pack Recommendations

[Clayton.sf]

r.e.load braaapp pack

https://www.reloadbags.com/product-p/acc-braaap-rust.htm

clayton scott
hbg, ca

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[RBW] Re: Boyz on the Hoods: 4th Annual Escape from Super Bowl Weekend Campout

[Clayton.sf]

I will coming from Healdsburg north of SR. My two plans are as follows:

1. Dry plan: show up at around noon, ride Annadel until dusk or until my 
legs quit (whichever comes first), then head over for dinner and camping. 
This version will likely have me driving down with a bunch of local 
firewood and other camp favorites. Can easily pickup 4 more people in the 
north bay too so if anyone wants a ride down let me know.

2. Wet weather: Ride bike down from Healdsburg around 11am with a bunch of 
scenic detours but sparing the trails at Annadel to not cause undue damage. 
Happy to bike down with anyone that wants to join the fun or meet up en 
route.

Both options will regroup at key points so no one gets lost or left behind.

Best,
Clayton Scott
HBG, CA



 

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 10:00:44 AM UTC-8, Clayton.sf wrote:
>
> For fancier lighter tents check out tarptent.com. I have their contrail 
> and it is a great tent. You will have seam seal it yourself and supply a 
> tyvek ground sheet.
>
> Hammock camping is well worth looking into too. If permitted and suitable 
> for the environment I prefer the hammock, but still use the tent quite a 
> bit since trees are not everywhere and some campsites forbid them. In 
> general though being above the dirt and wet is more pleasant than on the 
> dirt and wet. 
>
> Other drawbacks of the hammock are setup time takes longer to get it 
> perfect. More bulk for similar warmth. A pain in the butt to share with 
> someone. Learning curve. Research time wasted ;-). 
>
> In the end, having both is nice. If I had to go with just one I would go 
> with a tent, but sleep much better in a hammock.
>
> IN ADDITION AND ONLY SOMEWHAT RELATED: for those of you who own tarps - 
> bring them. We had one rainy year and having tarps to string over the 
> "communal area" immensely improved the experience. I will bring a 6'X8' and 
> cord, but more is always better.
>
> See you all soon!
>
> Clayton Scott
> HBG, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: FotR: Updates, info, questions

[Clayton.sf]

The campground usually sells wood too.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 1:16:28 PM UTC-8, Collin A wrote:
>
> Wow, good job on getting the sites and doing all the heavy lifting for 
> this not-meeting!
>
> The nearby lagunitas general store has most things needed for a good 
> camping trip, and is about 2 miles from the campsite so coordinating food, 
> beers, etc. would be pretty simple. Just send out a refueling party at the 
> end of a day.
>
> Don't move firewood! The lagunitas store and camp host usually have 
> bundles for sale ~$10, and are easily pack able via basket or pannier.
>
> On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 12:01:31 PM UTC-8, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks,
>> As was alluded to earlier I was able to get campgrounds for the weekend 
>> of July 19-21 at Devil's Gulch Group Camps in Samuel P Taylor Park.
>> Location: https://goo.gl/maps/Qhv67LvKJLT2
>> Park Info: http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=469
>> Please read the info there
>> Camp site details:
>> - Limit of 10 folks per site. I'm thinking that we can be fudgey with 
>> that number because we are coming on bikes and are very good stewards and 
>> citizens and will be on our best behavior
>> - 3 Vehicles allowed per site if folks want to have family come that 
>> aren't bike-riders or just want to drive to the camp/ride
>> - Drinking water & Restrooms are available
>> - Tents only, no hammocks
>>
>> Now on to activities & other things:
>> Are you going for sure? Register here: https://rbwxxv.eventbrite.com
>>
>> Many folks said they would want to lead a ride of some sort. Would a sign 
>> up via a Google Form make sense?
>> Do we want to group-coordinate food? Drinks? Campfire supplies? Or do we 
>> want to do it individually?
>>
>> Any other considerations I have yet to bring up?
>> -J
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Boyz on the Hoods: 4th Annual Escape from Super Bowl Weekend Campout

[Clayton.sf]

For fancier lighter tents check out tarptent.com. I have their contrail and 
it is a great tent. You will have seam seal it yourself and supply a tyvek 
ground sheet.

Hammock camping is well worth looking into too. If permitted and suitable 
for the environment I prefer the hammock, but still use the tent quite a 
bit since trees are not everywhere and some campsites forbid them. In 
general though being above the dirt and wet is more pleasant than on the 
dirt and wet. 

Other drawbacks of the hammock are setup time takes longer to get it 
perfect. More bulk for similar warmth. A pain in the butt to share with 
someone. Learning curve. Research time wasted ;-). 

In the end, having both is nice. If I had to go with just one I would go 
with a tent, but sleep much better in a hammock.

IN ADDITION AND ONLY SOMEWHAT RELATED: for those of you who own tarps - 
bring them. We had one rainy year and having tarps to string over the 
"communal area" immensely improved the experience. I will bring a 6'X8' and 
cord, but more is always better.

See you all soon!

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Boyz on the Hoods: 4th Annual Escape from Super Bowl Weekend Campout

[Clayton.sf]

if you can make it I recommend it! I will be coming down from healdsburg and 
will spend the day mtb-ing at annadel. happy to let up with northbay folk and 
bike down there. see you there!?

clayton scott, hbg, ca

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose Bars - Your Experiences?

[Clayton.sf]

The main issue for me was their upsweep that annoys my hands (have no 
issues with other flat or riser bars). I constantly wished I could rotate 
down some. This is personal though and may not bother other people.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA





On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:00:55 AM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> Yeah I agree with Adam. 
> Aside from being maybe the nicest looking bars, I do like the stiffness 
> and the width. 
>
> Downsides for me are fit and only one hand position. I’ve tried the bars 
> on a few bikes and they are only ever comfortable for me at above saddle 
> height. That can be hard to achieve, depending on the bike, because they 
> aren’t super tall. The other thing is that you only get one position. I 
> like mine for short rides or rough rides, but would never want to be on 
> them for hours and hours. 

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[RBW] Re: Help me diagnose chain slip cause?

[Clayton.sf]

Do you have the option of borrowing another rear wheel. That would help 
isolating whether or not it is the hub or something else. 

Clayton Scott
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On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 1:32:21 PM UTC-7, Brett Callahan wrote:
>
> I checked each link by flexing them back and forth. No obvious culprit. I 
> also checked out the condition of the new links relative to the old. 
> There's not a noticeable difference to the naked eye, but that may not mean 
> much. The two quick links are close together--maybe 6 links apart. I wonder 
> if that could be a problem. 
>
> At this point I've put the shifter into friction mode for the ride home, 
> to see if the problem could be shifter related. 
>

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[RBW] Help me diagnose chain slip cause?

[Clayton.sf]

I had this problem in the past. After a long process of elimination it turned 
out that it was the shimano freehub on the newer xt hubs causing this issue. I 
replaced the freehub and it was fine for a while but then happened again. 
Switched hub. Problem never came back.

clayton scott
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[RBW] Hour glass eyelets bolt size?

[Clayton.sf]

many thanks!

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[RBW] Hour glass eyelets bolt size?

[Clayton.sf]

Hi all,

what size bolt do the new oversize hour glass eyelets on the seatstays take. 
the ones that are up from the dropout to allow the rack to sit closer? regular 
rack screws are too small.

Thanks,
clayton scott
HBG, CA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bob Jackson Vigorelli

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SPF - Sold Pending Funds

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bob Jackson Vigorelli

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Bike is SPF.

thx!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bob Jackson Vigorelli

[Clayton.sf]

Price drop to $699 plus shipping via bike flights.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA


On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 12:21:14 PM UTC-8, Clayton.sf wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>  
> Have a 2012 Bob Jackson Vigorelli Fixed Gear Bike for sale.
>
> Frame:
>
> Reynolds 631 tubing.
> 58.5 ctc ST
> 58 ctc TT
> 27.2 Post requ.
> Horizontal top tube.
> Fork drilled for brake. Frame is not.
> Clearance for true 30mm tires with room to spare. Could possibly go up to 
> 32mm but have not tried it.
> Frame is framesavered and in excellent condition. Never used in the rain 
> (no fender eyelets). 
> Ice blue metallic with white lug lining.
> Frame is straight and true.
>
> Components Included: 
>
> - Phil Wood front and rear hubs with Phil cog and lockring laced to 32h 
> H+Son Archetypes
> - Campagnolo Pista crank, ring and bb (there is some filing on the 
> backside of the non-drive crankarm. Does not affect performance and 
> increases clearance)
> - Simworks Stem and Bars (getaround model)
> - Ultegra front brake with Shimano lever (photo shows a paul one)
> - Continental tires GP4000
> - I think this is it
> - VO headset
>
> All components in excellent shape!
>
> No seatpost, Saddle, Pedals, bottle cage, pump
>
> $999 plus shipping via bikeflights and paypal fees as applicable. Happy to 
> deliver in San Francisco and extended bay area.
>
> More pictures on request. Will clean it too!
>
> Best,
> Clayton Scott
> San Francisco, CA
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5D-wtnZvu3Y/Wn4CFlbwxKI/AgE/QRb9GlRijN0SYjMubOQCmO7ILJKOoPokACLcBGAs/s1600/20180208_080306.jpg>
>  
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OuciNYJ8jPc/Wn4CFNsKPsI/AgA/fDyJ4HFSgSomVOPrxbJpZf4Tm1UuoBKVgCLcBGAs/s1600/20180208_080302.jpg>
>  
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9sBmtTApbgU/Wn4CBOjlgiI/Af8/diSOUakLXaEQT3a8WVPNQ7xXmm0pQycFgCLcBGAs/s1600/20180208_080245.jpg>
>  
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OHccfRVhfoM/Wn4CGHa3EDI/AgI/Uu76WmQM6cU73umfijKClGjUfrUJwFn5wCLcBGAs/s1600/20180208_080310.jpg>
>
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[RBW] Riv Odds/Ends/Accessories to Add to an Order.

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new pine tar soap is nice too.

clayton scott
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[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders wear for cycling caps?

[Clayton.sf]

tilley hat when sunny or a beanie when cold, and mostly nothing.

clayton scott
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Re: [RBW] Thanks Grant

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brakeless fixed gears on city streets!

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[RBW] Re: Cutting rack struts without a vice

[Clayton.sf]

This one takes the cake!

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 6:08:32 AM UTC-7, Daniel M wrote:
>
> Vice Grip on Vice Grip action. You saw it here first. 
>
> Daniel M
> Berkeley, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Cutting rack struts without a vice

[Clayton.sf]

Find a stair step of choice. Put strut on step. Put foot on strut. Saw 
away. 


Clayton Scott
SF, CA






On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 6:54:53 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> How you do it?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dear Riv, please make a wider Noodle

[Clayton.sf]

I have Nitto RM-013-HT Dirt Drop Handlebars Heat Treated Silver (Width: 52cm) 
for sale of anyone is interested. Very noodle-esque. I installed them but did 
not ride them more than a few feet b4 deciding they were not for me. I am a fan 
of the cowchippers though. there is no spot behind the lever be the drops and 
hoods to me are very comfy even for long rides.

Clayton Scott
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[RBW] 59cm MIT Atlantis build and (short) ride report

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Looks excellent! Have a 1x11 59cm drop bar MITlantis waiting to be finished. 
Should be done next week.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Ever tossed a tire because you couldn't find the culprit?

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happened to me too. almost tossed the tire, but instead I rolled it up and put 
it away. two years later I really needed a tire like it on short notice. Pulled 
it out, checked it again, found the offending thorn in 2 minutes and am still 
riding it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[RBW] Re: Other annoying threads

[Clayton.sf]

two easy solutions to get them off your wheel:

1. go faster so they can't hang.

2. go slower so they must  pass you.

Either works every time.

Clayton Scott
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[RBW] WTB Shopsack Medium Olive

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yeah, a half-sack could work!

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[RBW] Re: Randonneuring on Rivendells

[Clayton.sf]

All personal preference I guess. I had a big wald basket on my Cheviot and 
routinely had a full camping or grocery load in there. It rode very well with 
that kind of front load be it dirt or trails.

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[RBW] WTB Shopsack Medium Olive

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Looking for a Shopsack Medium (smaller version) in olive in good/excellent 
condition. Not interested in other colors. Many thanks!

Clayton Scott
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[RBW] 650b vs 700c wide tite thoughts needed.

[Clayton.sf]

I personally like wider tires on 700c best. 44+ on 700c is preferred. For me 
the whole perfect handling based on rim size to tire width does not register. I 
like the feel of a large wheel and tire. I am also not sold on low trail geo 
either. Especially for not for mixed terrain riding. It is to me more about 
personal preference rather than alleged science. Wheel size relative to frame 
size/requirements makes more sense to me.

regarding fatter 650b vs skinnier 700c that choice depends on intended 
application application.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA 

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[RBW] Billie Bar bar rotation at stem clamp?

[Clayton.sf]

This to me is the main advantage of 31.8 diameter clamps. More surface, more 
friction, less chance of rotating. Almost all bigger sweep bars in 26mm and 
25.4mm have rotated for me, but in 31.8mm they stay put. 

Adding some carbon friction paste helps though.

Clayton Scott
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[RBW] Randonneuring on Rivendells

[Clayton.sf]

Done brevets on my Quickbeam in various configurations. basket, bags, fixed and 
SS. In my experience comfort is the most important thing since time limits are 
generous.  The catch is that comfortable varies quite a bit from 3 to 300 
miles. Full upright is nice for a few miles, but will be very uncomfortable for 
120 miles for me. Both battery and dybamo lights work.

Experimentation is key and what works for me will maybe not work for the next 
person. In the end you won't know what works for a 300k unless you do a 300k. 
Best advice is to just start and see how it goes. worst case scenario you will 
DNF, so what? You will learn something anyway.

Clayton Scott
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[RBW] Nitto rear rack shortage?

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There is a large in ebay too. Search for Rivendell.

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[RBW] Cracking paint or (gulp) cracking frame?

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Not saying it can't happen but a horizontal crack would be odd. If it was me 
I'd sand off the paint and see how it looks underneath though

Clayton Scott
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[RBW] quality of bike photos on Riv website

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I believe most of them are shot with film. Could be wrong though.

Clayton Scott
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[RBW] Re: FS: Cheviot 60cm Frame

[Clayton.sf]

Price drop. $900 shipped to CONUS. All else remains the same ;-).

Best,
Clayton Scott
SF, CA

On Friday, June 1, 2018 at 10:03:44 AM UTC-7, Clayton.sf wrote:
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> Hi All,
>
> For sale is a 60cm orange Cheviot frame plus headset. Happy to add the 
> stock seatpost and bb if you want them too (never used them).
> Frame is in excellent near mint condition, straight, and frame-savered.
>
> $970 plus shipping via bikeflights or pickup in SF. 
>
> More pictures on request.
>
> If you want to make this more of a complete I have a bunch of bars, 
> fenders, cranks, shifters, etc. to help you along the way that we can 
> discuss over PM.
>
> Best,
> Clayton Scott
> SF, CA
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Flat Bottom Backpack

[Clayton.sf]

another backpack which is a personal favorite of mine is the Goruck GR1. While 
the Goruck ethos is a little different from mine the GR1 is my favorite 
everyday bag ever. Pricey, but their lifetime warranty is for real. I highly 
recommend it and if you don't like it or will go for close to the same on eBay.

Clayton Scott
ST, CA

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[RBW] FS: Nitto 34F

[Clayton.sf]

Hi All,

Have a Nitto 34F big front rack for sale. Looks like 
this: https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-big-front-rack-34f-20075.

Comes with all the required hardward. Rack is in excellent condition.

$165 shipped to CONUS via bikeflights.

Best,
Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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