[RBW] Connecting with locals in northern NJ
I just moved to Glen Rock, NJ, and would love to connect with fellow local riders. You can contact me via email. Interested in road and mixed surface rides. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9790066f-c464-468d-9f17-759d7ac316e2n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Where can I find catalogue #20 online?
The recent Cheviot flyer (http://rivbike.tumblr.com/image/76550207830) mentions that catalogue #20 is also available online, but I can't find it. Is it not up yet? Please help. I don't want a paper version, but I DO want to read it! :) Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Still FS: Brooks B17 Special Honey unused minor shop wear
Some light and superficial scuffing above the Brooks logo at the back and on the right side corner. Otherwise excellent unused, untreated condition. See photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/ $95 OBO plus actual shipping. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Can anyone compare feel of MUSA wool to Icebreaker?
I love my Icebreaker woolens, but also have a Patagonia wool t-shirt that I dislike because it is too SOFT! It just feels insubstantial and flimsy. I assume the MUSA stuff is more like Icebreaker, but can anyone confirm? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB: Brooks B17S (women's) in brown or honey
Minor wear not an issue. Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FSOT: Brooks B17 Special honey unused with minor shop wear
Some light scuffing above the Brooks logo at the back and on the right side corner. Otherwise excellent unused, untreated condition. See photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/ $95 OBO plus actual shipping. Would be happy to trade for a Brooks B17 S (Women's) in honey or brown, and/or Suntour XC Pro/Comp 7 sp thumbshifters, and/or Shimano Deore XT rapid rise rear derailer, with money changing hands to account for difference in value. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.
I am usually the guy with the camera, so there aren't too many photos of me, but here are a couple taken by Paul on an S24O: http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/6276762823/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/6277281162/in/photostream/ On Sunday, March 31, 2013 11:02:33 PM UTC+7, jinxed wrote: NICE shot!! That's the ACK-SHUN right there. On Saturday, March 30, 2013 7:04:41 PM UTC-6, oli c wrote: fun Here's the go fast bike. Yours devoted at the bar. http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/7253696150/in/photostream/ Oli in SF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.
And here is one of Paul on HIS Sam, taken by me (plus Dave on a custom Bilenky): http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/8231055345/in/photostream/ And another of Paul on his Sam, and Kevin on my Sam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/8331985171/in/photostream Gernot Thailand On Monday, April 1, 2013 2:43:41 AM UTC+7, Earl Grey wrote: I am usually the guy with the camera, so there aren't too many photos of me, but here are a couple taken by Paul on an S24O: http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/6276762823/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/6277281162/in/photostream/ On Sunday, March 31, 2013 11:02:33 PM UTC+7, jinxed wrote: NICE shot!! That's the ACK-SHUN right there. On Saturday, March 30, 2013 7:04:41 PM UTC-6, oli c wrote: fun Here's the go fast bike. Yours devoted at the bar. http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/7253696150/in/photostream/ Oli in SF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pics of you on your Rivendell.
Clearly we need another flickr group. Anyone want to set it up? Gernot On Monday, April 1, 2013 2:47:14 AM UTC+7, Earl Grey wrote: And here is one of Paul on HIS Sam, taken by me (plus Dave on a custom Bilenky): http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/8231055345/in/photostream/ And another of Paul on his Sam, and Kevin on my Sam: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/8331985171/in/photostream Gernot Thailand On Monday, April 1, 2013 2:43:41 AM UTC+7, Earl Grey wrote: I am usually the guy with the camera, so there aren't too many photos of me, but here are a couple taken by Paul on an S24O: http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/6276762823/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/6277281162/in/photostream/ On Sunday, March 31, 2013 11:02:33 PM UTC+7, jinxed wrote: NICE shot!! That's the ACK-SHUN right there. On Saturday, March 30, 2013 7:04:41 PM UTC-6, oli c wrote: fun Here's the go fast bike. Yours devoted at the bar. http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/7253696150/in/photostream/ Oli in SF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne finds its true self
You could also put your bar-ends on some Paul thumbies and keep the Noodles. Like so: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh8.htm (see second photo for Noodles) Gernot On Monday, April 1, 2013 8:04:01 AM UTC+7, Michael wrote: I just got a Sam with noodles and am thinking of putting moustaches on it. Tired of reaching down to drops for bar end shifter levers. If that doesn't work out - Albatross bars are next on the list to try. Glad your Sam has worked out great for you. Now get down to some nice riding!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How I made a quick release basket that can be installed and removed in seconds, or even one handed.
Sweet! You can even lock it if you want to. :) I don't quite understand the angled basket to keep the cam tensioned. Wouldn't serious weight in the basket push the basket all the way down to flat, which would then reduce tension on the clasp just as you need it most? What am I missing? Gernot On Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:49:50 AM UTC+7, clayton wrote: Ok, now it is all finished, and elegantized. I polished the tongue and filed the top buckle mount down to an asthetic shape and painted it black. I also filed grooves on the sandwich to encapsulate the rack wire. Thanks for all the compliments! Here's the finished basket: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fireman483/8603662517/in/photostream/ 3 photos, click to newer.It was simple to do, as long as you understand what is needed to make the cam over hasp function. Good luck to all you tinkerers out there! On Friday, March 29, 2013 12:52:06 PM UTC-7, clayton wrote: Hi folks, A while back I asked the groups opinion of the public bikes basket and it's quick release. The opinions I got back were negative and got me thinking on how to adapt a basket that could be installed and removed easily but be very secure. I live without a car and use my Atlantis for groceries etc. I didn't want to haul around an empty basket all the time, or deal with zip ties constantly taking the basket off and zip tying it down the next time I needed it to go to the store. So my requirements were: Instant on/off, secure, elegant, lockable to the bike and not too heavy. All was achieved but the elegance. Not ugly, but I need to paint the silver bits...lol. I run panniers and a rear rack regularly. The basket is used as an additional overload for *planned* shopping trips. Check out the photos and descriptions. I tried to be clear as I could so you could make your own if you so desired. Progress through the photos from old to new. It should make sense after you get through the series of ten photos and the descriptions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saluki Brake / Rack Mating Question
Perhaps have a mechanic friend look at how they are set up. I have them on two bikes, 4 years on one, 2 years on the other, with zero adjustments since the initial set up. I love these brakes. Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saluki Brake / Rack Mating Question
In case it matters to your decision making process, the mini can probably carry a lot more weight. Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Which kinda washer for Sam brake bridge fender mount/plastic SKS fender.
Actually for direct mounting a metal fender onto a bridge with a bolt that goes through the fender you use a leather washer to increase fender life and reduce noise, between fender and bridge. Metal washer inside fender. Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Grand Bois Cypres vs Nifty Swifty
Get Hetres. They will spoil you for all other tires. They will actually improve ride quality, won't increase rolling resistance noticeably (or may even lower it on rough roads), will last much longer (3-4000miles?) and will be much more flat resistant simply because they are wider and are thus run at lower pressure. Gernot (who wishes his 56cm Sam had 650b wheels so he could run Hetres, but who has them on another bike) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Optimal clearance for metal fenders...
The most important part of fender set up for avoiding jamming is to make the clearance tightest at the rear end of the fender, and gradually let it get more generous towards the front, so that if something gets sucked up in there, it has a good chance of getting spit out again, too. In addition, I think more clearance is better for avoiding jamming things, since a larger item is significantly less likely to get picked up by the tire and lifted all the way under the fender. And in case you think this never happens: My friend Paul's Sam with SKS fenders and Marathon Extremes (relatively knobby) got a stick stuck in his fender on his first ride on a dirt road and pretzeled his fender. bent it back into shape and it is still useable, but it can happen. Gernot Thailand On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:01:44 AM UTC+7, René wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I have no problem fitting 60mm Berthoud fenders on my Hunqapillar to use with 50mm Marathon Dureme or equivalent tires. In fact, I have so much clearance, that my question really intended to ask how much is needed to really minimize the risk of a rock, piece of gravel or stick to get stuck when riding off-road, and if having too much clearance between the tire and the metal fender just meant that larger and potentially larger rocks could get stuck. I've already fitted both fenders to what I decided was optimal for both looks and clearance, and will post photos when the build is complete, unless someone wants to see something faster than that. I'm taking my sweet time to both enjoy it to the max as well as to ensure I make no mistakes. I'm also debating whether to go with my original plan to have the 24/40/Guard Sugino crankset which is forcing me to go with a wider BB, going down to 24/38/Guard to increase the clearance between the 38 and the chainstay or just go back the the 24/36/46 triple I had, maybe even going 24/36/Guard as I never seem to use the 46...suggestions welcome! René On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.t...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Lovelybike has info on a Surly Cross Check with Fat Franks and VO Zeppelins. (Lots of pics.) http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/06/surly-cross-check-review-colourful.html She mentions: On the downside, the clearances between the tires and fenders are so tight, that the set-up is not really practical for serious off-road cycling: stuff can get caught in there and cause problems. But for fire trails and gravel paths it is fine... I don't think I would do this with knobbies. Good luck-- looking forward to the pics of the build. Shoji On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:09:53 PM UTC-4, AaronY wrote: Bob, What size were the hammered fenders? The largest size I can find on the VO site is a 47 which could be the reason that a 47 tire would have difficulty fitting with sufficient clearance. If you really want metal fenders they have the Zeppelin style in 52, but that might even be a tight fit for Rene's 50 mm Duremes. Here's a link to their fender page. I http://store.velo-orange.com/**index.php/accessories/fenders.**html?p=1http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders.html?p=1 In the past my metal fenders have all been from VO and I've been happy with them. Aaron Young Vancouver, WA On Sunday, March 17, 2013, Robert Barr wrote: Rene, I struggled with the fenders on my Hunqapillar. My thoughtful wife bought me some hammered VOs as a gift because I had mentioned that I thought they would look great on the Hunq. And they would have - but with 47-622 Marathons there wasn't a mm to spare. My normal commute takes me down a gravel trail with stones and sticks. I fret the sticks more than the stones. After several attempts to fit the VOs (two sizes and lots of thinking..). I had to go back to my tried and true SKS. They worked best for me and where I ride. Good luck... Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Tech specs on Rivendell seat binder allen bolt and nut
I broke my seatpost binder bolt a couple of weeks ago and measured (the broken bolt, held together) with calipers. I got 25mm of threads (M6 bolt). This is for a 2009 Sam. I'd just go buy a 22 and a 25 to be safe. Can't hurt to have a backup. I didn't even crank down very tight, but I had been adjusting the seat quite a bit for various visitors. Gernot On Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:59:43 AM UTC+7, Patrick Moore wrote: Shoji and Stephen: thank you both. I will try True Value (well stocked) and check the wheel. On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Stephen S elph...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Have you tried re-centering the rear wheel? With a 132.5 spacing it can be hard to get the wheel exactly centered, at least tat is how it is on my ram. Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW, Albuquerque, NM, USA http://resumespecialties.com/index.html * patric...@resumespecialties.comjavascript: __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Does shellaced tape feel crusty?
A tropical data point: cloth tape with two or three coats of shellac only took a year to develop mold spots in northern Thailand. Just an aesthetic concern, but worth a note. I then swapped bars a couple of times (noodles to moustaches to VO porteurs) and haven't bothered retaping at all. Am quite happy with the feel of bare aluminum, with or without gloves. But then again it doesn't ever get cold here. Gernot Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions
I have 3 of the Hebie 605s. I have a dual Pletscher, and it's not being used. The Hebies are far superior in terms of stability (and probably twice as heavy). No problem clearing 52mm fenders. All 3 bikes have the option of mounting 2 child seats, so stability is paramount. Note that the Hebies come in 3 lengths, are not adjustable, and the guidelines for choosing the right size are super conservative. I ended up with one that is way too long by using the info on the Hebie website. Better to measure in person if you can... Gernot Thailand On Friday, March 1, 2013 4:24:29 AM UTC+7, Leslie wrote: On my Bomba, I had NeoMotos on it when I first tried to mount the kickstand; same problem, took the kickstand back off. Thing was, I wasn't planning on permanently running Neos, so once I switched to the Contis, I didn't have a problem (but mine are the 42s, not the 54s). On Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:16:20 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote: Going to get out the file this weekend and see if I can adjust the fit of the Pletscher in the offending area. That is, in fact, the RBW suggestion. I'll check out the VO as well. As the Bombadil has a kickstand plate I am pretty locked as far how the stand sits in relation to the bike. Dan On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.t...@gmail.comwrote: I have the VO Copenhagen Dual Leg Kickstand, too. I think the length adjustment is nice. I'm not as enthusiastic with the build compared to the Pletscher. In the up position, the upper leg wobbles a bit. Not anything bad or dangerous, but I don't see the same thing on my Pletscher. The plastic feet are wide. Good for stability, but it could cause a problem in the up position. I tried it on a ss bike: too much one way, and the feet were into the spokes; too much the other way and they were into the pedal/foot. For wheel flop, I take my ankle band and wrap it around the tire and downtube. I used to have an extra bungie cord on my basket, but that disappeared. On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:55:22 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: I have this one on my Atlantis with the 50mm Marathon Supremes, and it clears those pretty fat tires just fine. http://store.velo-orange.com/**index.php/accessories/** chainguards-stay-protectors-**kickstands/vo-retractable-** dual-leg-kickstand.htmlhttp://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/chainguards-stay-protectors-kickstands/vo-retractable-dual-leg-kickstand.html I like the ability to adjust the length of the kickstand legs when you change tires, too. Works very well. Whether the rear or front is lifted with the stand down depends on where the load is, though; I try to adjust the length of the legs so that both tires are as close to the ground as possible. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:rbw-owne...@** googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Dan McNamara *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:28 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com *Subject:* [RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions I just swapped the tires on my 52 Bombadil 2TT from Fatty Rumpkins to the 54 (actually measure 48) Conti Tour Guards and, of course, the Pletscher 2-legged kickstand won't clear the rear tire. By not clear I mean the stand rubs against the tire when it is in the up position. Any thoughts on other 2-legged stands that might clear a wide-ish tire? I would prefer that the stand raised the rear of the bike rather than the front to avoid the front wheel flopping around when I am loading. So far there are two options from VO, a couple from Hebie and at least one from Crow. Any user feedback on these and ideas on others? Thanks in advance Dan -Marin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . --**--**-- ** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. **
[RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?
Here is how to get a budget Riv now (other than waiting for a used deal, which could also take a while): Get yourself a zero % interest credit card. Get a Sam or Betty now before the price goes up (get the unpainted head tube if still available in your size). Set up automatic payments so that you pay off the frame before the interest kicks in. Find a bargain older bike on Craig's List that has a suitable selection of parts. Move the parts over (650B wheels will be a problem, though). Scrounge for the rest (long reach brakes and wheels) here on the RBW list and the iBob list. The $400 you could save in a budget frame is a pittance even on a budget if spread out over a year. Commit to cooking for your family instead of going out to eat, do without cable, stop drinking beer and wine for a year, or juice (it's not that healthy, anyway), whatever. Or ride your new bike everywhere if you are now driving a car. Sell the car, buy a trailer for the kids, or a front mounted and rear mounted child seat. There are ways to save $40 a month if you are working and living in the US. I waited for years before buying a Riv because they seemed so extravagant. Buying the original Sam at $1000 in 2009 felt like a super-splurge bordering on the irresponsible, but I bit the bullet because it was half of the other Rivs. I wish I hadn't waited so long. Hope I don't sound preachy, and perhaps your finances are more dire than mine are/were (maxed out credit cards?), but most employed folk in the US can afford a Sam, especially if it can replace car trips some of the time. It's mostly a matter of priorities, and perhaps overcoming fear. Cheers, Gernot PS: Moving to a cheaper country doesn't hurt. :) GH in Thailand without a car with a 2.5 year old and an 8 month old, wife's student loans finally paid off a year ago. On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36:21 AM UTC+7, murphyjrfk wrote: I love all the answers. And the what not. But I suppose I forgot to mention I don't care if the bike they come out with didn't have lugs was a mixte with gray primer as pain t and not a single decal. I'm not tall so generally ride a 52 give or take and the thing that drives me crazy is you can't buy a smaller bike with a shallow seat tube. Even the lht-which I have and like well enough-has a 74 degree seat tube. And man I love shallow seat tubes. My wife and I have mountains o' student loans and small children so even when there is enough money I can't justify it. But man do I want the GP sweetness regardless o' what it looks like! this group is the best. On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:58:02 AM UTC-5, murphyjrfk wrote: Does any one know if the budget riv is still being considered planned anything? I hope so. And sooner rather than later. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas
I have the Hebie. I am not using the plastic cover for the spring, and the spring was dragging on the fender, scratching it (maybe that's why there is a cover?) :). But rotating the L bracket at the fork crown so the spring attaches above the brake bolt solved the problem. You can see the scratches and the position of the bracket in this photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/8513927014/in/photostream Gernot On Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:26:50 PM UTC+7, Ron Mc wrote: I bought a steering damper on a VO order, and it does not fit in the space available on my old bike with fenders. If anyone wants it, new - package opened - $10 will get it there by Priority Mail. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/vo-wheel-stabilizer.html (I ordered a Hebie from SJS, and am hoping it will be smaller) On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:58:14 AM UTC-6, Earl Grey wrote: Agreed that 4 struts on a Mark's are key, which is why I am surprised that apparently no-one has thought of mounting the second set of struts to the inside of the hourglass brazeon on the fork (see related thread: 4 struts on a Mark's). Chris Chen thought of mounting the rear set of struts to the inside of the rack ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/8506365178/in/photostream), but that doesn't solve the issue of stacking two struts onto one bolt at the fork, though it does provide some side-to-side triangulation. I have ordered bent and straight stays from Riv for my wife's Mark's and will report back on various mounting options of the second set of struts in a month or so when they arrive in Thailand. Regarding the problem of front wheel movement while parked with a front load, I have just installed a steering damper on my Sam with a big Wald basket on a Nitto Mini Front rack (as well as a stem-mounted child seat). As you can see, with about 13lbs the movement is limited to about 45 degrees (this can be fine-tuned with an adjustment screw): http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/ Steering is probably slowed a bit near the limit, but I think that handling is actually improved with a heavy front load, while I don't notice any difference during unloaded riding, though I haven't really tested that yet. I like the steering damper so much that I think that Riv should start providing a brazeon for it. Seems like the logical step after mid-fork rack mounts and kickstand plates. I thought I was kidding on this last comment, but apparently at least some Dutch bikes have such a brazeon: http://overthebarsinmilwaukee.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/steering-damper.jpg Gernot Thailand On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:12:24 AM UTC+7, William wrote: Edwin Sounds like a good list. The key to using the Mark's Rack with a true load is the second set of struts, as you can see in the staff bikes photos (Keven's Appaloosa, Grant's Homer). It's much more loadable with the second pair of struts. On Monday, February 25, 2013 5:36:47 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote: I am weighing (no pun intended!) a few of the helpful suggestions from the group. I think I am considering: CETMA strong and tough, ugly and expensive. Blackburn cheap and tough, ugly and not made for this bike. Marks elegant and made for the bike, expensive and wondering about weight limit, but I see on the staff bikes they appear to hold more than 4.4 pounds. Someone from the list has told me they might have one of these. Gamoj porter like on Sean's bike on the staff bikes page. As to my original post: I almost always carry 5-10 pounds in my work bag to and from work, and on rare occasion a 12 pack of beer and very rarely a case or other such groceries, but would love to have the option. And have it be better than the current situation with soma rack and p clamps. Thanks for all of the suggestions. Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Front fender mount on Blue Sams - how to?
If you don't want to get a Sheldon Fender nut, you can mount the L-bracket in front of the fork crown, as shown in the Riv youtube video, but The rear part of the fendere will sit higher, making a flap more necessary (of course some folks will insist that a flap is always necessary). :) Gernot On Friday, March 1, 2013 1:34:11 AM UTC+7, Michael wrote: Does a fender mount on the brake bolt, or does the fork have one of those thingamajjiggies for direct bolting fenders to the fork crown? Sorry for the lack of technical jargon. I forget what that mounting hole is called under the fork. Thanks for the info. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 4 struts on a Mark's rack on a Betty
Chris, thanks for the photo. Actually I meant the opposite: Attaching both struts to the outside of the rack, but one to the outside of the fork, and the other to the inside of the fork. But your solution seems equally interesting. The photo strangely looks like all the struts are straight, but you say you used two bent ones? Do you mean the dogleg bend ones? Cheers, Gernot On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:05:39 AM UTC+7, Christopher Chen wrote: You mean like this? http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/8506365178/in/photostream I think it's actually quite neat, and it makes for more triangles. I like more triangles, and all I had were the offset struts. You'll see they're back-to-back against each other, so one is biased towards the inside, the other towards the outside. This also means (to my amateur mind) that there's less loading (laterally, that is) on the strut. On Monday, February 25, 2013 7:33:27 AM UTC-8, Earl Grey wrote: Since my wife carries a lot more than 4.4lbs in the Wald zip-tied to her Mark's, I'd like to add two extra struts from the back eyelets on the rack to the mid-fork braze-ons. I don't have the extra two struts that the Mark's came with, so I was going to order two 16.5cm bent Nitto struts from Riv (I know I need to order the nuts, too). But looking at a couple of photos of Riv staff bikes (Miesha and Brian), I notice that they used 4 straight struts and attached them both to the outside of the hourglass mounts on the fork. I was imagining attaching the bent struts to the inside part of the hourglass mounts, and would think that might be marginally more rigid/sturdy. Any reason why I shouldn't? Is there not enough room for brake clearance (Tektro 559s)? Does it look ugly? Any other thoughts? What about using the two short straight struts on the rack's rear eyelets, and getting two long straight struts to connect to the dropout eyelets? Has anyone done that? Do you like it? Is it sturdier? I know I should just call Riv, but it's too early there, and too late here (Thailand) to stay up another 2 hours. Thanks! Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas
Agreed that 4 struts on a Mark's are key, which is why I am surprised that apparently no-one has thought of mounting the second set of struts to the inside of the hourglass brazeon on the fork (see related thread: 4 struts on a Mark's). Chris Chen thought of mounting the rear set of struts to the inside of the rack (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/8506365178/in/photostream), but that doesn't solve the issue of stacking two struts onto one bolt at the fork, though it does provide some side-to-side triangulation. I have ordered bent and straight stays from Riv for my wife's Mark's and will report back on various mounting options of the second set of struts in a month or so when they arrive in Thailand. Regarding the problem of front wheel movement while parked with a front load, I have just installed a steering damper on my Sam with a big Wald basket on a Nitto Mini Front rack (as well as a stem-mounted child seat). As you can see, with about 13lbs the movement is limited to about 45 degrees (this can be fine-tuned with an adjustment screw): http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/ Steering is probably slowed a bit near the limit, but I think that handling is actually improved with a heavy front load, while I don't notice any difference during unloaded riding, though I haven't really tested that yet. I like the steering damper so much that I think that Riv should start providing a brazeon for it. Seems like the logical step after mid-fork rack mounts and kickstand plates. I thought I was kidding on this last comment, but apparently at least some Dutch bikes have such a brazeon: http://overthebarsinmilwaukee.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/steering-damper.jpg Gernot Thailand On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:12:24 AM UTC+7, William wrote: Edwin Sounds like a good list. The key to using the Mark's Rack with a true load is the second set of struts, as you can see in the staff bikes photos (Keven's Appaloosa, Grant's Homer). It's much more loadable with the second pair of struts. On Monday, February 25, 2013 5:36:47 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote: I am weighing (no pun intended!) a few of the helpful suggestions from the group. I think I am considering: CETMA strong and tough, ugly and expensive. Blackburn cheap and tough, ugly and not made for this bike. Marks elegant and made for the bike, expensive and wondering about weight limit, but I see on the staff bikes they appear to hold more than 4.4 pounds. Someone from the list has told me they might have one of these. Gamoj porter like on Sean's bike on the staff bikes page. As to my original post: I almost always carry 5-10 pounds in my work bag to and from work, and on rare occasion a 12 pack of beer and very rarely a case or other such groceries, but would love to have the option. And have it be better than the current situation with soma rack and p clamps. Thanks for all of the suggestions. Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] 4 struts on a Mark's rack on a Betty
Since my wife carries a lot more than 4.4lbs in the Wald zip-tied to her Mark's, I'd like to add two extra struts from the back eyelets on the rack to the mid-fork braze-ons. I don't have the extra two struts that the Mark's came with, so I was going to order two 16.5cm bent Nitto struts from Riv (I know I need to order the nuts, too). But looking at a couple of photos of Riv staff bikes (Miesha and Brian), I notice that they used 4 straight struts and attached them both to the outside of the hourglass mounts on the fork. I was imagining attaching the bent struts to the inside part of the hourglass mounts, and would think that might be marginally more rigid/sturdy. Any reason why I shouldn't? Is there not enough room for brake clearance (Tektro 559s)? Does it look ugly? Any other thoughts? What about using the two short straight struts on the rack's rear eyelets, and getting two long straight struts to connect to the dropout eyelets? Has anyone done that? Do you like it? Is it sturdier? I know I should just call Riv, but it's too early there, and too late here (Thailand) to stay up another 2 hours. Thanks! Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 4 struts on a Mark's rack on a Betty
Shoji, thanks for the link to the previous discussion. I did search the group before posting (honest!) but poor keyword choice, I guess. Interesting that the inside mount option didn't come up, though. The problem with trying it both ways is that that requires straight struts for the outside mount, and bent ones for the inside. Cheers, Gernot On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:51:37 PM UTC+7, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Hi Gernot, There was an earlier discussion on alternative installs for Mark's Rack (including your question on struts to dropout eyelets): https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/5waTg7bA4co/discussion I'd just try it out either way. Attaching both struts to the outside eyelet (like Miesha's) is a simpler installation than one strut inside, the other outside. I don't think it will make it more rigid/sturdy, but maybe someone's tried it and can chime in. If the intended use if for 4.4lbs, you may want to consider a different rack (like Nitto Front Rack, porteur rack, Paul's Rack, etc.). On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:33:27 AM UTC-5, Earl Grey wrote: Since my wife carries a lot more than 4.4lbs in the Wald zip-tied to her Mark's, I'd like to add two extra struts from the back eyelets on the rack to the mid-fork braze-ons. I don't have the extra two struts that the Mark's came with, so I was going to order two 16.5cm bent Nitto struts from Riv (I know I need to order the nuts, too). But looking at a couple of photos of Riv staff bikes (Miesha and Brian), I notice that they used 4 straight struts and attached them both to the outside of the hourglass mounts on the fork. I was imagining attaching the bent struts to the inside part of the hourglass mounts, and would think that might be marginally more rigid/sturdy. Any reason why I shouldn't? Is there not enough room for brake clearance (Tektro 559s)? Does it look ugly? Any other thoughts? What about using the two short straight struts on the rack's rear eyelets, and getting two long straight struts to connect to the dropout eyelets? Has anyone done that? Do you like it? Is it sturdier? I know I should just call Riv, but it's too early there, and too late here (Thailand) to stay up another 2 hours. Thanks! Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 4 struts on a Mark's rack on a Betty
Well, I am still up, and Mark got in early to WHQ, so Rivendell is putting a couple of previously cut straight struts into my order (thanks!) along with the bent ones I ordered before I started rethinking all this. I won't get them for a month or so (Thailand), but will report back on straight struts vs bent mounted to the inside of the fork braze-ons for all of you waiting with bated breath. :) FWIW, Mark's answer was that they simply hadn't tried using the bent ones on the inside, but that he thought it should work. Gernot On Monday, February 25, 2013 11:03:41 PM UTC+7, Earl Grey wrote: Shoji, thanks for the link to the previous discussion. I did search the group before posting (honest!) but poor keyword choice, I guess. Interesting that the inside mount option didn't come up, though. The problem with trying it both ways is that that requires straight struts for the outside mount, and bent ones for the inside. Cheers, Gernot On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:51:37 PM UTC+7, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Hi Gernot, There was an earlier discussion on alternative installs for Mark's Rack (including your question on struts to dropout eyelets): https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/5waTg7bA4co/discussion I'd just try it out either way. Attaching both struts to the outside eyelet (like Miesha's) is a simpler installation than one strut inside, the other outside. I don't think it will make it more rigid/sturdy, but maybe someone's tried it and can chime in. If the intended use if for 4.4lbs, you may want to consider a different rack (like Nitto Front Rack, porteur rack, Paul's Rack, etc.). On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:33:27 AM UTC-5, Earl Grey wrote: Since my wife carries a lot more than 4.4lbs in the Wald zip-tied to her Mark's, I'd like to add two extra struts from the back eyelets on the rack to the mid-fork braze-ons. I don't have the extra two struts that the Mark's came with, so I was going to order two 16.5cm bent Nitto struts from Riv (I know I need to order the nuts, too). But looking at a couple of photos of Riv staff bikes (Miesha and Brian), I notice that they used 4 straight struts and attached them both to the outside of the hourglass mounts on the fork. I was imagining attaching the bent struts to the inside part of the hourglass mounts, and would think that might be marginally more rigid/sturdy. Any reason why I shouldn't? Is there not enough room for brake clearance (Tektro 559s)? Does it look ugly? Any other thoughts? What about using the two short straight struts on the rack's rear eyelets, and getting two long straight struts to connect to the dropout eyelets? Has anyone done that? Do you like it? Is it sturdier? I know I should just call Riv, but it's too early there, and too late here (Thailand) to stay up another 2 hours. Thanks! Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Attaching SKS style front fender to a recessed brake bolt nut (Betty Foy)
Jim, that is probably the sensible solution. Thanks everyone for your creative thinking. William, it's good to know Riv sells Sheldon Nuts. Not sure why I didn't see them before. Stephen, your assessment is correct. Thanks for clarifying. The only option that seems to have some chance of success is mounting the large L-bracket inside the steerer on the brake bolt aft of the daruma. The brakes are Tektro 559, and I believe the bolt is not replaceable. Once again my love of cantilever brakes is affirmed. Wouldn't have this issue with cantis. :) Cheers, Gernot On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:41:30 PM UTC+7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: A Sheldon nut shouldn't be that expensive to ship to Thailand. It fits easily in a letter-sized envelope. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Keven's Appaloosa Mystery - how does he attach f.der. cable?
The tentacular stays are still asymmetric. Look closely and you can
see the left side stay curving down to the chainstay just inside the
rear rim.
Gernot
On Feb 5, 11:36 pm, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:
Great looking bike.
This is the first time I've noticed the tentacular stays are symmetric.
Were the asymmetric stays only on the Proto-loosa?
Aaron Young
Vancouver, WA
On Tuesday, February 5, 2013, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
I think it's obvious... Keven IS MacGuyver...
On Monday, February 4, 2013 11:46:14 PM UTC-5, James Warren wrote:
The photos show just enough to intrigue, but not not enough to answer the
question:
http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/staff3.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff3.htm
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[RBW] Re: Betty Build (GB Lierres, alu fenders, hub dynamo, 2 child seats)
Actually, many city bikes here come standard with an adult-sized passenger seat in lieu of a rear rack, with motorcycle style foot pegs brazed onto the chainstays (See my wife's old bike on cyclofiend: http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2011/cc830-gernothuber0711.html They also sell baby bike seats made out of rattan here. I have never seen more than 2 people on a bike here (ourselves excluded), though I have seen up to 5 on a scooter. And yes, if they wear miniskirts, they ride side saddle, which makes fitting 3-4 people even more of a challenge (I have never seen more than 4 adults on a scooter; the family of 5 I saw on a scooter involved 3 kids). We ride 4-up on our tandem, and on our scooter. The scooter has a folding child seat in front of the main seat, and the infant goes in a chest-mounted baby carrier. Gernot On Saturday, February 2, 2013 11:52:17 PM UTC+7, Allan in Portland wrote: Nice, but aren't the locals going to look at you funny? I thought kids in Thailand just rode side-saddle where ever they can fit. -Allan On Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:52:34 AM UTC-8, Earl Grey wrote: The main purpose of this bike will be as my wife's daily short-distance commuter and one or two child hauler (we don't have a car). My Sam and our tandem are also outfitted with two child seat mounts now that #2 is 7 months old and ready to be a biker. I still need to attach and connect the wired taillight, and connect the front light. Partial parts list for those who care; this was yet another cheap and dirty build using a variety of new, used, and NOS items: BM Lumotec IQ Cyo R headlight (on VO bracket) BM Seculite Plus taillight Shimano D3-N80 generator hub 2013 Shimano LX rear hub for its nice polished finish Velocity Synergy rims, Wheelsmith double butted spokes, wheels built by yours truly, Grand Bois Lierre (650Bx38mm) tires (was worried about clearance with Hetres. The Lierres look and feel great) (Okay. So I did splurge on the lights and the wheels.) VO fluted 700C fenders (had them lying around. Pretty easy to bend down to 650B, and longer to boot) 1990 LX derailer (parts bin; from my Fisher) ca. 1993 DX front derailer (NOS) Sugino compact double crank (40x26) Shimano Ultegra cassette (12-27; parts bin) Stronglight bottom bracket VO pedals (will be swapped with GripKings) Hebie 605 Royal Mail two-legged kickstand (rated to 60kg! rock-solid, super heavy; this is the kickstand to get if you are going to mount two child seats) Used, cheapish and shortish Nitto stem (the square black thing is a child seat mount) Used X-Mission townie handlebars (thanks Paul) Sunrace friction shifters Shimano brakelevers Tektro 559 brakes Bontrager grips Ritchey seatpost (26.8mm!) Brooks B17S, will be swapped for a B17 Women's Nitto Mark's rack Wald basket Bobike Maxi (rear) and Mini + (front) child seats -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] New Betty Foy frame: trouble getting bolts into brazeons
Seems like the paint was perhaps applied a bit too generously. Never had this problem on any other frame. On a couple of brazeons, I have so far been unable to get a bolt in, even when using a bit of oil and much patience in lining up the bolt. Any suggestions? I don't have a wire brush small enough to fit in the holes. Maybe nail polish on a Q- tip? Does that have any chance of working? Other ideas? Thanks! Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Betty Foy frame: trouble getting bolts into brazeons
Thanks everyone. Sounds fairly unanimous. :) And thanks for the links, Smitty. I should have mentioned I am in Thailand, but I have a pretty well-stocked hardware store here, so with the links on my phone I should be able to communicate what I need. Cheers, Gernot first Betty in Thailand? Huber On Dec 30, 11:23 pm, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: Like others have said... clean the threads with a tap. you'll need 3 things... a handlehttp://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1290735cp=256..., an M5 taphttp://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1290736cp=256..., and a drop of oil to lube the tap/threads to prevent binding when you're reaming it out. Any hardware or home improvement store should have a tap and handle. --Smitty On Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:24:49 AM UTC-8, Earl Grey wrote: Seems like the paint was perhaps applied a bit too generously. Never had this problem on any other frame. On a couple of brazeons, I have so far been unable to get a bolt in, even when using a bit of oil and much patience in lining up the bolt. Any suggestions? I don't have a wire brush small enough to fit in the holes. Maybe nail polish on a Q- tip? Does that have any chance of working? Other ideas? Thanks! Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Homemade Accessories for Bikes
I haven't made anything from scratch, but I made a banana bag that I really like out of a Swiss Army gasmask bag. Cut two holes for the straps and sewed around the edges to stop fraying, sewed the bottom corners together to narrow the bag for thigh clearance, and cut off the straps and attached D rings. The original strap can be re-attached for off-bike carrying, but I think I haven't removed the bag once since I made it 3 years ago. I bought several more of these bags for my other bikes, but haven't gotten around to making more. Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/ Cheers, Gernot Thailand On Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:47:13 AM UTC+7, Eli Koral wrote: Andy! nice stuff. The turn buttons are a particularly nice addition. Did you already have all the leatherworking tools? Or was this project an excuse to buy tools? (I adore those kind of projects). Eli On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:57:06 PM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: The little basket-mounted pouches are a cool idea. I've been thinking of making the same sort of thing but a little larger for the box on my Bakfiets. It's funny... the Bakfiets has got a cargo box big enough for an adult or 4 small children to ride in but I'm often at a loss for a good place to put small items like a camera or sunglasses. As far as stuff that's actually gone beyond an idea... The kid seat http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/6812051114/ comes and goes but the leather mud flap is always on my Homer. The wife has an almost matching kid seat and mud flaphttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/7819921346/on her Betty Foy I replaced the snaps on my Slickersack with turn buttonshttps://picasaweb.google.com/113148323994353762329/SlickersackImprovement?authuser=0feat=directlinkso it'd be easier to go on/off with stuff in the bag. This little dealhttps://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YDPGrUWUxKfSDl9I2ssFn9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlinkgets the light out in front of my basket 'cause the beam from the handlebar mounted light was obscured when I had stuff in the basket I think my coolest homemade bike accessory is the double kid seathttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/6873390593/for my Big Dummy. I love my Homer and have great adventures on my Riv, but the good (and bad) times I have sharing the bike with my kids are the stuff I'll smile about on my deathbed. --Andy On Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:05:20 AM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Hello all and Happy Thanksgiving! I just wanted to see if anyone else in the Riv community enjoys making accessories for their bikes. If this is the case, I'd love to see what innovative things you've made. In the meantime, I'll post some images of things that I've made. During the past 2 years, I have been trying to perfect the rando bag but ultimately have been displeased with its lack of sturdiness. I enjoy making them, using them for a while, then gifting them to other cycling friends--this is great because it constantly gives me the opportunity to make new bags. While rando bags look great, I have yet to make one as versatile as a Wald basket. And after many years of debate, I have decided to stick with my Wald. With that in mind, I missed the tool pockets typically found at the back of a rando bag. So, I recently decided to create a couple of pouches to hang on the back side of my basket. Both pouches are 2 inches deep, 4 inches wide, and 5 inches high. There is also an extra 3 inches of flap available if I try to over-stuff the pouches. It was relatively easy to construct these little bags because canvas is such a forgiving material to work with. I have plastic stiffeners inside the bags (very similar to the ones in Acorn bags) and velcro attachments to keep everything in place. While these dimensions may seem small, I have all of my tools in the left pouch (inner tube, patch kit, multi tool, a pair of CO2 cartridges, 3 tire levers, zip ties, and 4 Irish straps). The pouch on the right is used to keep my cell phone, garage clicker, and keys; there is quite a bit of space left for snacks, a saddle cover, and a bandana. I'd love to see the folks at Riv create some Sackville versions of these because they're extremely versatile. Have a look--I am attaching JPEG images to this post. Also, I'd love to see any other accessories people make for their bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VFDlh5DzltUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Velocity quality
I seem to remember from past threads that it was particularly the 36 hole O/C Synergies that were cracking. If you have cracked a Synergy, can you state whether it was O/C and 36 hole? I have two 32 hole O/C Synergies on two bikes, with one around 4000 mi/3 yrs, the other maybe 1500mi/2 yrs, mostly unloaded, but the second one is on my rim-braked rigid 29er and sees a lot of single track. Both of them are fine. I weigh 175lbs, but bought non-O/C Synergy rears for my next two projects to be safe. Getting rims shipped to Thailand is an expensive pain in the rear. The only bike I have ever broken spokes on is a tandem with no-name hubs that don't support the spoke elbows well, so for me the O/C benefit is theoretical and not worth the risk, though as I said, both my O/C Synergies are fine so far. Gernot Thailand On Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:45:39 AM UTC+7, Leslie wrote: I thought it was pretty clear to be predominantly a batch of O/C Synergies, some Chukkers too it seems... And Velocity not only is easily swapping rims, but have made production changes to address... I'm curious to see if the problem continues, or if it is solved... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zxXvzeKN9wIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Parts wanted for a budget Betty
Finally getting my wife a Riv, but since we are both on Thai salaries, buying first rate kit new is a challenge. Thus with your permission I'd like to rifle through your parts bin/shelved project bin for the following (new preferred for that new bike smell, but used in good condition certainly considered): Triple crank 170mm, square taper of course. 46/36/24 or something similar, or the nifty Sugino compact double with chainguard instead of big ring A pair of Tektro R559/Silver side-pull brakes A pair of Hetres (or Some Xpress?) Grip Kings or RMX Sneaker pedals Mark's rack Suntour XC (Comp, Pro) thumbshifters Thanks much, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RX3MxNt4dUMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Parts wanted for a budget Betty
Oh yeah, add a Brooks B17S to that list (honey preferred to keep work pants the original color) Gernot On Friday, November 23, 2012 12:18:14 AM UTC+7, Earl Grey wrote: Finally getting my wife a Riv, but since we are both on Thai salaries, buying first rate kit new is a challenge. Thus with your permission I'd like to rifle through your parts bin/shelved project bin for the following (new preferred for that new bike smell, but used in good condition certainly considered): Triple crank 170mm, square taper of course. 46/36/24 or something similar, or the nifty Sugino compact double with chainguard instead of big ring A pair of Tektro R559/Silver side-pull brakes A pair of Hetres (or Some Xpress?) Grip Kings or RMX Sneaker pedals Mark's rack Suntour XC (Comp, Pro) thumbshifters Thanks much, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gkw1U1JAjT0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Parts wanted for a budget Betty
Oh, forgot Shimano 8 speed road hubs, 32 spokes, 600/Ultegra preferred, the old skinny kind, or 105 On Friday, November 23, 2012 12:18:14 AM UTC+7, Earl Grey wrote: Finally getting my wife a Riv, but since we are both on Thai salaries, buying first rate kit new is a challenge. Thus with your permission I'd like to rifle through your parts bin/shelved project bin for the following (new preferred for that new bike smell, but used in good condition certainly considered): Triple crank 170mm, square taper of course. 46/36/24 or something similar, or the nifty Sugino compact double with chainguard instead of big ring A pair of Tektro R559/Silver side-pull brakes A pair of Hetres (or Some Xpress?) Grip Kings or RMX Sneaker pedals Mark's rack Suntour XC (Comp, Pro) thumbshifters Thanks much, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GWHMm_uKsygJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Betties and Sams and paint choices
Good point, Pete, but if that is the operating rationale, why is the Sam on it's forth color? :) It's obviously selling well, too. Gernot On Jul 5, 10:04 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: If I were Riv, and on my 4,5,6-th reorder of Bettys I wouldnt change a thing. They are obviously selling. If I were Riv and still on my first order of Bettys I wouldn't have had a chance to change anything. Either scenario explains the color. Pete in CT Loving my orange Sam and not orange QB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Betties and Sams and paint choices
Can anyone explain to me (I know, I should write Grant) why the Sam has gone through 4 gorgeous paint choices (the only one I didn't like was the original green, but only because of the gold decals; too much like a pimped Lexus), and Betty is still on her first (not terrible) paint job. True, there is Ives Gomez, but he sports the same IMHO tasteless gold decals. This seems even stranger because of the perceived notion that color has a much larger influence in women's bike buying decisions. Lest I be accused of prejudice, my own wife and several female friends have confirmed this (I know, small sample size). Why do I care? I have been wanting to buy my wife a Betty Foy for a while, and she actually wants one, but she pretty much hates the color, nor does she like black and gold. Upon asking her what color she DOES like, she can't actually give an answer beyond I'd have to look at a bunch of bikes. Oh well, at least she knows what she dislikes, and I am not among them. Nonetheless, I have a feeling that she is not alone, and that switching Betty's color every couple of re-orders would increase sales, as it would increase the color choices over time, and might also lead to the-red-ones-are-going-away-get-yours-now-type sales. If the Betty came in a color my wife liked, and that color was going away, I would have bought one already. Cheers, Gernot Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Betties and Sams and paint choices
And yes, she could of course get a custom paint job, but her last bike was $120 new (Raleigh women's, see http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2011/cc830-gernothuber0711.html) and the stock Betty Foy frame is already more than either of us earn in a month. We could *afford* it, but it's a difficult to justify expense. Gernot On Jul 4, 10:09 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone explain to me (I know, I should write Grant) why the Sam has gone through 4 gorgeous paint choices (the only one I didn't like was the original green, but only because of the gold decals; too much like a pimped Lexus), and Betty is still on her first (not terrible) paint job. True, there is Ives Gomez, but he sports the same IMHO tasteless gold decals. This seems even stranger because of the perceived notion that color has a much larger influence in women's bike buying decisions. Lest I be accused of prejudice, my own wife and several female friends have confirmed this (I know, small sample size). Why do I care? I have been wanting to buy my wife a Betty Foy for a while, and she actually wants one, but she pretty much hates the color, nor does she like black and gold. Upon asking her what color she DOES like, she can't actually give an answer beyond I'd have to look at a bunch of bikes. Oh well, at least she knows what she dislikes, and I am not among them. Nonetheless, I have a feeling that she is not alone, and that switching Betty's color every couple of re-orders would increase sales, as it would increase the color choices over time, and might also lead to the-red-ones-are-going-away-get-yours-now-type sales. If the Betty came in a color my wife liked, and that color was going away, I would have bought one already. Cheers, Gernot Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Betties and Sams and paint choices
Couldn't agree more about the orange Sam. Every time I see one, I smile, and I see one everyday, just by looking straight down. :) And there is actually another orange one Chiang Mai, which my friend Paul bought after seeing mine. Gernot On Jul 5, 12:13 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: I wish Rivendell would keep one of their amazing orange colors in the rotation as long as the Atlantis color. Ram orange, QB orange, Sam orange, all memorable. I understand technical problems made the Ram orange impossible over time, but too quick was the move from that orange Sam. Anytime I see one, I smile. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone explain to me (I know, I should write Grant) why the Sam has gone through 4 gorgeous paint choices (the only one I didn't like was the original green, but only because of the gold decals; too much like a pimped Lexus), and Betty is still on her first (not terrible) paint job. True, there is Ives Gomez, but he sports the same IMHO tasteless gold decals. This seems even stranger because of the perceived notion that color has a much larger influence in women's bike buying decisions. Lest I be accused of prejudice, my own wife and several female friends have confirmed this (I know, small sample size). Why do I care? I have been wanting to buy my wife a Betty Foy for a while, and she actually wants one, but she pretty much hates the color, nor does she like black and gold. Upon asking her what color she DOES like, she can't actually give an answer beyond I'd have to look at a bunch of bikes. Oh well, at least she knows what she dislikes, and I am not among them. Nonetheless, I have a feeling that she is not alone, and that switching Betty's color every couple of re-orders would increase sales, as it would increase the color choices over time, and might also lead to the-red-ones-are-going-away-get-yours-now-type sales. If the Betty came in a color my wife liked, and that color was going away, I would have bought one already. Cheers, Gernot Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Betties and Sams and paint choices
Exactly, so why not change the color occasionally on the one bike that really has no overlap with other Riv models if you like riding in skirts? Gernot On Jul 5, 7:11 am, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: And I'm on the opposite end. Purchased the Hillborne because of the green paint. And one of the things that attracted me to the SimpleOne was it was green. And a slime green, to boot. While the QB orange is nice, I personally didn't like the SH orange. Nothing wrong with it, just didn't appeal to me. And maybe that's why the colors change, too many folks like one over another and this gives more choices. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Cyclofiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: On Jul 4, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Mike wrote: On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 10:13:53 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: I wish Rivendell would keep one of their amazing orange colors in the rotation as long as the Atlantis color. Ram orange, QB orange, Sam orange, all memorable. I understand technical problems made the Ram orange impossible over time, but too quick was the move from that orange Sam. Anytime I see one, I smile. Agreed. Orange is pretty much the perfect color for a steel bike. Yep. I'd been trying to rationalize buying the Quickbeam. I'd been thinking that's really the bike for me all through the Coleman Green runs. The day the Orange run was announced, I put down my deposit. Something about that color that just makes me smile. Sun or shade, trail or road, warm setting rays of light or blistering midday sun, I look down and things seem better. - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscr i...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: tricky rack mounting
I assume your front fender has an L-bracket which you placed behind the fork crown? You might be able to place it in front of the crown, which would gain you an inch or so. Perhaps not enough to bother... Gernot On Jul 1, 7:58 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I've got aluminum fenders on my Ram from VO; I like them, but they weren't fun to mount, as I was fitting them over 32's. They're long; however, I don't think VO carries the anodized aluminum anymore... This is the first time I've used the SKS/Esge fenders; they seem fine, I'm just short in the front from where I want it. This is a 650b bike, and I'm running the fattest tires I can find on it, am using the P65 ones. Some elegant solution will arise, I just need to keep mulling it over and give it time... -L On Saturday, June 30, 2012 11:30:36 PM UTC-4, Earl Grey wrote: I like the Carradice Super Cs I just got. Haven't used them yet, but seem well-built and simple, but with a good (Ortlieb-like) attachment system. Not too expensive, either. Order from Wiggle in the UK. Or you could go with aluminum fenders. I switched almost all my bikes in the last couple of years. Even these disappointingly short ones from VO (went on sale shortly after I bought them) give almost full frontal coverage: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/7247322734/in/photostream/ Gernot On Jul 1, 9:09 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: PS: definitely agree on the longer fender bit... Either need to find someone w/ a broken bit to add as an extension, or perhaps get a second rear fender and put it on the front, or some such... Or cobble up something else... Regardless, yes, I concur, a fender extension under there is needed... -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqa/Sam Handlebars
If you would consider a non-Nitto, I have found the Jones H-bar (I have the Titec version) to be the bee's knees for technical single- track. Jones website showing hand positions towards the bottom: http://www.jonesbikes.com/h-bar.html; Titec licensed copy on my Fisher Sphinx: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/6874833392/ I have never liked standard mtn bike bars, and thus rode single-track for years with road drop bars, because that is what I like on the road. The Jones H-bar, however, has greatly improved my ability to ride technical single track. Standard hand position is even more angled than the bullmoose, but with a couple of extra hand positions thrown in. If you want to limit it to the three bars you mentioned, I'd give the moustache a try (have wanted to try them off-road myself, but can't get them high enough on my off-road bike), but my guess is that the bullmoose gives you the most control, if the hand position is angled enough for you. Cheers, Gernot Thailand On Jun 30, 7:36 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: ...oops... continuing ...limited range of positioning imposed by having a short (i.e. not tall) stem and only two extensions to choose from in the realm of the Nitto RBW Bullmoose. (I confess I'm confused as to the intent of the Boscomoose bar. I love my Bosco (58cm HT Al, not -moose). It is flexier than other bars, though. So maybe it's a way of appealing to people who don't want the flex. Personally, I'm fine with it; it's well within my comfort zone. I've come to like it because it provides a different feel. I'd imagine the 55cm CrMo variety addresses anyone's flex concerns. But is the Boscomoose intended to be a rough stuff bar like the Bullmoose? That just strikes me as odd given the bar''s general shape.) Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: tricky rack mounting
Nice work! How did you bend the stays? Just another reason to stick with cantis. :) Might be nice to get a longer (in front) front fender on there to protect your load better. Gernot firmly in the cantis are the best brakes ever camp Huber Thailand On Jun 28, 8:09 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: PS: Above pic was of the bent strut, here's the rack once mounted:http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/7460286064/in/photostream/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: tricky rack mounting
I like the Carradice Super Cs I just got. Haven't used them yet, but seem well-built and simple, but with a good (Ortlieb-like) attachment system. Not too expensive, either. Order from Wiggle in the UK. Or you could go with aluminum fenders. I switched almost all my bikes in the last couple of years. Even these disappointingly short ones from VO (went on sale shortly after I bought them) give almost full frontal coverage: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/7247322734/in/photostream/ Gernot On Jul 1, 9:09 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: PS: definitely agree on the longer fender bit... Either need to find someone w/ a broken bit to add as an extension, or perhaps get a second rear fender and put it on the front, or some such... Or cobble up something else... Regardless, yes, I concur, a fender extension under there is needed... -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mary Bar/Technomic stem incompatible?
Not sure there is enough space for this, but can you try a 26mm Technomic, and after you have gotten the bars in place, slide in a shim? Good luck, Gernot On Jun 18, 4:11 am, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to be accepted practice to spread closed face stems a little to insert the bars. There is/was actually a special stem pry tool made for the purpose. Jan Heine has a neat trick to accomplish the same with bolt+nut+coin: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/01/17/inserting-a-handlebar-into-a... Those Mary bars seem like a steal. I picked up an aluminum and a cr-mo set to try. Be warned, the cr-mo finish is bead blasted and feels like sharkskin--not exactly the chrome finsih advertised. Not that i'm complaining for $20. Report back on how you like the Marys! Best, joe broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Accugauge: fits Presta?
They make both versions, but not a combo: http://www.ghmeiser.com/bicycle.htm I wonder if you can turn one into the other by replacing the gasket etc? I have the presta one. Gernot On Jun 15, 2:17 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I think I've got one of those, or at least it looks very similar, but it's Schraeder only. Do they make this type of gauge in Presta, or do y'all have to use an adaptor? -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pressure Gauges: Facts? Opinions?
Can anyone recommend a tire gauge specifically for lower pressure presta applications? (I.e. car gauges won't work.) I run around 20 pounds on some of my fatter tires, and while I don't need something super accurate, the gauges on my topeak mini pumps won't even register anything until you are somewhere near 25 or 30 pounds, and I like to adjust pressure down after riding to the trails on the road. Thanks, Gernot On Jun 12, 1:22 am, Mark Chandler gravelb...@hotmail.com wrote: Recently my (several years-old) Accugage stopped holding its reading when I removed it from the valve. I emailed Accugage, and asked if this could be fixed. They responded promptly, and informed me that the gauge could be repaired, and that it would only cost $3 for return shipping. That's definitely good service, IMO. Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:06:08 -0700 From: garth...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Pressure Gauges: Facts? Opinions? The Accugage one is about the best you're gonna find. I've tried various plastic one I thought were accurate and they were way off ! Myself, a battery operated gauge is a solution to problem that does not exist... yet creates it's own problem ! Brilliant marketing ! The batteries often drain even when it's not being used and then you go to use it and ... ooops. No gauge ! Some people like buying batteries though lol. I'd rather have a gauge that is not dependent on a battery. - The Topeak onehttp://tinyurl.com/87mf8rnis supposed to be pretty good. I have been looking at this analog one:http://tinyurl.com/7aubk6q -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/g9gUZYu_RokJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pressure Gauges: Facts? Opinions?
Okay, I just tried out my 20 year old, somewhat corroded Accu-Gage that I thought had stopped working years ago before sending it to be fixed now that I found out from this thread that it has a lifetime warranty. I had found a review on Amazon saying that it was worthless for pressures under 40 psi, which is pretty much all I use these days, so I was starting to wonder whether I should bother having it repaired. I did several readings with the Accu-Gage on different tires at different pressures, and it works (still or again, will never know). I compared the readings to my cheap Taiwanese? (Giyo) floor pump (which agrees with both my Topeak mini pumps once the pressures get high enough to register on the minis). The Accu-Gage repeatedly read within a pound or so of the floor pump down to 8-10 psi. The new ones say they read 3-160 psi, but the stop on the needle for mine is actually at 6 psi, so it can't read below that. Caveat: the dial is a bit small if your eye sight isn't the best. Cheers, Gernot (love/hate it when I can answer my own questions) Huber On Jun 14, 11:44 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for anything beside the Topeak electric one that registers down to 10 (ten) psi. On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:43 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on that request. Anything that accurately reads in the 20 lbs range. On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone recommend a tire gauge specifically for lower pressure presta applications? (I.e. car gauges won't work.) I run around 20 pounds on some of my fatter tires, and while I don't need something super accurate, the gauges on my topeak mini pumps won't even register anything until you are somewhere near 25 or 30 pounds, and I like to adjust pressure down after riding to the trails on the road. Thanks, Gernot -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bicycle Courier In Love with My Atlantis
There are at least 4 Rivs (and one Heron) in Chiang Mai, Thailand. One I recruited at the local organic farmer's market, one I have never seen. I ride regularly with the recruit (Paul) and an old-timer Rivver (Kip) who I saw on this list lived in CM. We also met Doug P when he came through town, though sadly he didn't have time to ride with us. Gernot Thailand On Jun 14, 11:52 pm, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Jim observed that I always find it surprising that people in other places don't see more Rivs in the wild. I see several per week aside from my job. Minneapolis must be a hotbed of misfits! I hear there is a really active Rivendell dealer in the Twin Cities; that may account some for the popularity in that area. :) Mainstream cycling in So Cal is so racer focused that being a cycling misfit actually puts one cloer to the real world. dougP On Jun 14, 9:19 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I used the term cycling misfits above in the most loving possible way. Almost every Riv owner or fan feels alienated from mainstream cycling in some way. Given the objective weirdness of mainstream cycling, being a misfit in this context is nothing to be ashamed of! You can categorize yourself based on how you don't fit in to the dominant cycling paradigms. I'm not going into specifics. I always find it surprising that people in other places don't see more Rivs in the wild. I see several per week aside from my job. Minneapolis must be a hotbed of misfits! On Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:14:01 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: In fact, this should be a group question -- everyone sing along! -Original Message- From: Allingham II, Thomas J (WIL) Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:13 AM To: 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: [RBW] Bicycle Courier In Love with My Atlantis Can't resist asking, Jim -- in your (I assume better informed than mine, since I've never encountered another Riv of any kind in my neck of the Eastern Meglopolis) view, how many of those distinct groups are there, and can you name the ones other than the tatted and pierced anarchist/punker/hipsters? I desperately need to know to which group I belong (raising whispers of Groucho in my mind). -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 7:37 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Bicycle Courier In Love with My Atlantis Among the various distinct groups of cycling misfits that are drawn to Rivendell, the tatted and pierced anarchist/punker/hipster is well represented. I was going to point this out in the Riv meets Riv in the wild thread, to point out that not all Riv-types have much in common, aside from bike brand choice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u6vOJKYl-j0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. --- --- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request.
[RBW] Re: Pressure Gauges: Facts? Opinions?
Thanks Ted, Accu Gage is a trademark of G.H. Meiser. They are the same thing. I know they make 30 psi gauges, but I thought those are Schrader only (for cars). Would be great if there was a Presta version. Gernot On Jun 15, 11:35 am, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: I believe Meiser makes one with a 0 to 30 psi face. The Meiser gauges look a lot like the accu-gauge being discussed in this thread, and might be the same mfg. On Jun 14, 9:32 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone recommend a tire gauge specifically for lower pressure presta applications? (I.e. car gauges won't work.) I run around 20 pounds on some of my fatter tires, and while I don't need something super accurate, the gauges on my topeak mini pumps won't even register anything until you are somewhere near 25 or 30 pounds, and I like to adjust pressure down after riding to the trails on the road. Thanks, Gernot On Jun 12, 1:22 am, Mark Chandler gravelb...@hotmail.com wrote: Recently my (several years-old) Accugage stopped holding its reading when I removed it from the valve. I emailed Accugage, and asked if this could be fixed. They responded promptly, and informed me that the gauge could be repaired, and that it would only cost $3 for return shipping. That's definitely good service, IMO. Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:06:08 -0700 From: garth...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Pressure Gauges: Facts? Opinions? The Accugage one is about the best you're gonna find. I've tried various plastic one I thought were accurate and they were way off ! Myself, a battery operated gauge is a solution to problem that does not exist... yet creates it's own problem ! Brilliant marketing ! The batteries often drain even when it's not being used and then you go to use it and ... ooops. No gauge ! Some people like buying batteries though lol. I'd rather have a gauge that is not dependent on a battery. - The Topeak onehttp://tinyurl.com/87mf8rnissupposedto be pretty good. I have been looking at this analog one:http://tinyurl.com/7aubk6q -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/g9gUZYu_RokJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pressure Gauges: Facts? Opinions?
Your gauge on your floor pump may not be accurate, but that doesn't mean it's not useful, assuming that it is consistent (which it most likely is, and besides, that's easy to check). Find the pressure that works for you by trial and error: Let out air until the cornering gets iffy or you start to fear pinch flats, put a bit of air back in, note what your gauge reads then, and just pump to that number from then on, regardless of whether it reads 10 or 110psi. Cheers, Gernot On Jun 10, 11:24 pm, Cyclofiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Thumb and forefinger, but - importantly - pinched from the top of the tire with the finger on the rim, as opposed to sidewall pinching. I'll recalibrate periodically with the gauge on my floor pump, but that's what works*. - J Shades of John Muir's Torque Wrench -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne terra cotta
What Kendas were you running? Gernot On Jun 3, 3:07 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: I put a set of the brownish Schwalbe Delta Cruisers RBW sells on my green Hillborne today. They certainly feel better than the Kendas I'd been using, even though they are narrower. Not all cush is the same, I guess. The 700x38 Kendas were more cushy but were also a little squirmy even at 70psi (normally I kept them at 60psi). The Schwalbes are cushy enough and generally feel more stable (at 60psi). They are definitely quieter. And I find I appreciate the increased clearance under the fender. More importantly, the Schwalbes mount better. They went on my rims by hand yet were solidly seated and very round right away, with little shifting about on my part (VO Raid in front, Velocity Cliffhanger in back). The Kendas always went on somewhat easily but required some considerable tweaking to get them mounted fairly evenly and securely. This sounds like the Kendas sucked. I never felt that way (and still don't). If they were mediocre in use certainly it could be understood; they cost ~$16 through Amazon Prime. They have a nice-looking tan sidewall. And I never had any flats in a few thousand miles of riding. The Schwalbes are just better, as one might expect at almost twice the price. (I'm assuming my generally flat-free riding will continue.) indeed, I'd certainly hope that Marathon Supremes would be significantly better than these Delta Cruisers, at almost 2.5X the price. I'm just not willing to go that far yet for non-studded tires. Baby steps. Oh, and of course the brownish color looks good with the green bike; plenty of pictures on the RBW site to confirm that. The Delta Cruisers were enough of an immediate improvement that I ordered a pair of creme Delta Cruisers for my orange Hillborne. Dreamscicle? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne show bike
I run 40mm tires (Kenda Kwick Roller EZ Ride) under 52mm VO Zeppelin fenders on a 56cm Sam. Plenty of room under the fenders. Gernot On May 30, 11:46 am, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to ruffle the feathers of fashion and get some awesome short-ish pants in the deal, try the MUSA Knickers. Would love to see pics of the diamond/harlequin wrapped bar when you do it. I've been thinking to try it but haven't gotten around to it. FWIW... I had to up-size my fenders (to 50mm... I think) to get adequate clearance under my Supremes. --Andy On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:27:45 PM UTC-7, charlie wrote: Just acquired some lime green cloth bar tape which I hope to weave into a diamond pattern (along with blue tape) on the new green Hillborne's mustache bars. Ordered a set of 700x35 creme colored tires since I tried my Schwalbe Supremes (38mm actual) and they wouldn't fit under fenders with enough clearance to suit me. I'm hoping to ride this in an up and coming 'family style' ride put on by the county park department in my area. I'm also enjoying my new MUSA shorts and blue suspenders (nothing like plumbers crack to spoil a fellow riders view) The fit is nice and I plan to buy another pair along with some long pants now that I know they fit. Not sure if the Creme tires are long lasting (UV / rubber wise) but I've seen a few bicycles fitted with them and they look kind of vintage. Its a groovin bicycle and I'm glad I purchased it. If any of you are on the fence regarding the purchase of a Hillborne it is a fine riding bicycle. Not a tank and not a flyweight just a solid ride that handles predictably. When price is a consideration, I don't think you could purchase a nicer riding Rivendell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cameras and biking
I carry a full sized DSLR (Nikon D70s or D300) in a handlebar bag, either the Ortlieb, or an Acorn Boxy Rando (depending on the bike). I use the removable padded insert from my ThinkTank Speed Demon camera bag, but I also have the Ortlieb camera insert which works fine as well. Fast access, very well protected from sweat, rain crashes, etc. Gernot On May 27, 11:11 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: How ready to go are you thinking of? a rando-bag is the natural option, but there are a number of strap/harness options. I use an black-rapid strap which keeps an SLR camera at your hip, there is a buckle which can control the amount of play in the strap. though i would not use this for a full-size dslr on a bike myself, for that i would use a rando bag, or if i wanted it on my body a bike messenger bag that i could unbuckle and swing to the front and pull out. i'm just not seeing the use case where the extra 10-15 seconds of swinging it around and pulling it out of a shoulder bag, or stopping and pulling it out of a rando bag in front would make a difference? is it the constant pulling it out and putting it away that you're wanting to avoid? On Sunday, May 27, 2012 3:18:35 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote: I'm curious of those who bring a small SLR or mirrorless camera on trips, have you found a good way to carry it so you have it ready quickly? I've always used a small point shoot kept in a pocket or the small pocket in my acorn boxy rando bag. I'm looking for a way to have a larger camera ready to photograph the scenes I'm biking by on longer rides. I seem to recall Grant talking about some kind of harness a few years back? Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 52mm VO fenders on 700c Sam?
Yes. They work. Got them on my 56cm Sam. Had to bend the fenders a wee bit to fit inside the chain stays, me thinks, or maybe not. Been a while. Can't find a really good photo, but here is one anyway: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/6159188380/in/photostream/lightbox/ I usually run 42mm semi-slicks, btw. Plenty of room. Gernot On May 11, 8:56 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all. I got a good deal on some 47-48mm VO aluminum fenders once and am generally happy with them. The only thing I'd change is that they are finicky to set up initially so that they don't interfere with my largest tires (studded 40-622). A little extra fender width might do the trick. So the question is: does anyone here use the VO 52mm zeppelin fenders on their 700c Hillborne? Or more generally, do any 700c Sam owners have any thoughts on whether they'd work? My eyes tell me they might, based on the room around my current fenders. But it's close enough (especially near the chainstays) that I thought I'd consult The Collective. Thanks! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean who prefers metal fenders and matches bags -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne photos
Love the way the pump fits just between the double tubes. Great idea to get a white pump, mimics the look of the white panel on the seat tube. How are you liking the longboards? Can't help but notice that those fenders are still short compared to aluminum Honjos/VOs, esp forward of the fork crown. I used to swear by SKS but the last 3 fender pairs I have bought were aluminum. Enjoy! Gernot On May 6, 9:23 am, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3924434835546set=a.252263587... Here is the new bicycle as I have it set up now..some older parts, some newer.great ride! Everything went together without a problem and didn't even have to switch so much as a cable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Campee Front Rack With Removable Pannier Supports
Yes, I mean the Nova, and the bike I am using on has mid fork braze- ons, but I have used clams before w/o problems on other bikes. Some argue that clamps are stronger... In terms of fork stiffening, what Thomas Skean said. :) Gernot On May 4, 6:53 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Earl, I'm assuming you're referring to the Tara or Nova and I must admit that this approach is growing on me (at considerably less than the Campee) as I already have the Mini-Front. I assume you mounted the Tubus to the forks with clamps? I haven't read the BQ article you reference, but I'm not sure I follow the point about attaching a rack to the drop outs and stiffening the fork in an undesirable way. The Tubus attacks to the drop outs. Clarify? DG. On Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:41:40 AM UTC-6, Earl Grey wrote: I considered the Campee front rack, but then went with a Nitto M-12 and a completely separate stainless Tubus low-rider instead. The low rider can be added and removed probably as easily as the pannier supports on the campee. I don't know the weight comparison, for the full set up, but run only the mini rack 95% of the time. What made me go this route are reports I have read (in BQ and on the net) that front racks that attach to the drop-outs may stiffen the fork and negatively impact the ride quality. Not my own bike, but this photo inspired my setup: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ah_blake/6592931659/in/photostream/ Gernot On May 2, 9:58 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Anyone have experience with these racks? I like the idea of being able to take the pannier supports off when I don't need them and just support by Berthoud bag, but wonder if its stable once the panniers are mounted. Seems like it might flex, a lot. Rube Goldberg machine or elegant solution? http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=146_2... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upcoming Hunqa
I have never had woodies, but I do believe that they do not offer the same spray protection as ESGE or aluminum fenders. They are gorgeous, but maybe you should see if you can try out someone's bike with woodies in the rain before laying down the cash. Gernot On May 3, 7:28 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I lost it and bit at one of the last 54c gray/bean Hunqapillars. It should be arriving next week, and I'm starting to think about the build. I will be using it to complement my rando A. Homer H. for S24O and commute duty. As I live in a wet climate, fenders are a year-round necessity. The pics of the DevilBunny bike (http://flic.kr/p/8JjZqY) make me happy, and I'm very interested in some color matched wood fenders. Does anyone have experience with the Woodies? http://www.woodysfenders.com/store/ How about Anderson out of Bellingham?http://creativeopenings.com/CO_Fenders/woodfenders.htm Help! Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Campee Front Rack With Removable Pannier Supports
I considered the Campee front rack, but then went with a Nitto M-12 and a completely separate stainless Tubus low-rider instead. The low rider can be added and removed probably as easily as the pannier supports on the campee. I don't know the weight comparison, for the full set up, but run only the mini rack 95% of the time. What made me go this route are reports I have read (in BQ and on the net) that front racks that attach to the drop-outs may stiffen the fork and negatively impact the ride quality. Not my own bike, but this photo inspired my setup: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ah_blake/6592931659/in/photostream/ Gernot On May 2, 9:58 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Anyone have experience with these racks? I like the idea of being able to take the pannier supports off when I don't need them and just support by Berthoud bag, but wonder if its stable once the panniers are mounted. Seems like it might flex, a lot. Rube Goldberg machine or elegant solution? http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=146_2... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I could bend the CrMo Nitto rack to make it level, right?
I have successfully bent a Nitto M-12 (mounts to the canti posts) to fit level on a bike that also has huge clearance between tire and fork crown: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/6126662617/ (shown with 52mm knobbies and fenders!) Worked quite well, so I wouldn't worry about bending the Nitto Mini. However, you have another brand new option. Compass Bicycles now carries a custom Grand Bois Nitto front rack designed for greater distance between canti posts and fork crown hole: http://www.compasscycle.com/racks_gb_wide.html (Click on the image showing both racks to see the appropriate measurements) I would pick this option over a Mark's because like the Mini this rack is non-adjustable and thus much stronger (and perhaps the most beautiful of all of them). Good luck, Gernot On Apr 30, 7:04 am, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Would a mark's rack in the front work better? You would need a bolt an nut setup through the fork crown of course and you would have to buy another rack but for self confessed OCD people like myself that is a small price to pay to have perfection. Its a bit like fenderlines though, where alot of the times they work fine but are unpleasing to the eyes so they draw more attention than is really necessary. If only I could take my own advice on this though On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at your red Atlantis, I feel sorry for everyone with the slower, minty colored Atlanti. And you aren't splitting hairs with that rack. I would spend some time fixing it too. Ryan On Apr 29, 8:24 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: My front mini-rack (not a Mark's, the fork-crown-hole mount style) has a slope to it when mounted on my Atlantis: http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/7122164137/in/photostream/ I'm probably splitting hairs, because the picture seems to exaggerate it, and the function is fine. But, in the constructeur spirit, I'm thinking of making it level. There is no reason I could not make a slight bend to the tubular CrMo rack, correct? I actually know the answer to that; I'm wondering if anyone has tried it on this rack? Thanks, Jim W. p.s. Perhaps instead I should use those top-of-the-fork-crown mounts that I had added to the frame and put on a Mark's rack. On all the Hunqapillars, Bombadils, and Atlantis's out there that have them, those seem to be the least used cool Rivendell thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What fenders on a Soma San Marcos?
Yes, the 37s probably won't fit well over the 32s, but contact Riv to make sure the Amos can take 45s, which it may not! Plastic fenders, which I no longer prefer, do have the advantage of fitting over bigger tires as they don't have rolled edges. So if the 45s don't fit, you may have to go with a 40mm or so plastic. Gernot On Apr 1, 8:20 am, Brian Campbell bdcampbel...@gmail.com wrote: 45mm then. General rule of thumb is 10mm larger fender (or thereabout) than the tire you will run. On Friday, March 30, 2012 6:59:40 PM UTC-4, Reed Kennedy wrote: I've now got nearly all the parts for my 3 speed Soma San Marcos build! Anybody know the largest fender this frame will fit? I'm thinking Velo Orange hammered fenders, but I'm not sure if I should go with the 37mm or the 45mm. It'd be dreamy to run 32mm Paselas with fenders if I can get away with it. (This is a 63cm and will wear Grand Compe 610 brakes, for what it's worth.) Reed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.
The obvious choice are Grand Bois Hetres (42mm). Super low rolling resistance and pretty low weight, fat enough for serious off-roading, seem to last 3-5000 miles (if memory of other people's posts serves). Best tire ever made, IMHO. If you really want to go skinny, go Grand Bois Cypres (32mm). Gernot Thailand On Mar 27, 10:11 pm, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for some alternatives to Pari Motos for my Sam. I have been having a problem with flats with these tires, and they seem like they are wearing out quicker than I would like. Looking for something that will still have some performance and won't be sluggish on the road but will still be able to take some road abuse. I have a spare wheelset with Fatty Rumpkins for dirt and touring so I have that kind of stuff covered. Any ideas, recommendations or opinions? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?
Here in the tropics, the elastic on the Aardvarks gives up within months. The best cover I ever had was the Rivendell custom made that they no longer carry (because they need to order 300 at a time; bad for cash flow). Shall we see if we can get a group order going? I'll take 5...seriously. Gernot Thailand On Mar 27, 6:22 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 21:29 -1000, Robert F. Harrison wrote: I use one of the Aardvark covers from Riv these days.http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s91.htm I do, too. It works well. I have a couple of actual Brooks covers but I generally don't use them if I have to be away from my bike because they clearly say Brooks on them. I have one of those, too. It was never waterproof -- I fixed that by using a plastic bowl cover under it -- but the elastic stretched out and became useless after a few years. The Aardvark is cheap (but not shoddy), works great, and as it says in the promo, it disguises a fine leather saddle. And keeps it dry in the rain, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How long did your Brooks saddle take to break in?
The honey B17 Special on my 2009 Sam now has 2.5 years on it (and maybe 4000 miles?), and seems ready for a bit of tightening, as the sag is getting quite noticeable. I remember thinking it took a while to break in, at least 500-1000 miles (I am around 170 lbs). I have a new brown B17 Titanium on my 2011 rSogn, and it seems to be more comfortable right out of the box, though it hasn't broken in (changed shape) noticeably yet, after perhaps 400 miles. The plain black B17 on my tandem, which has been there since 2008 and a few thousand miles still doesn't really seem broken in, but is reasonably comfortable. Has someone come up with a standard for when to tighten Brooks, as overtightening seems to be the surest way to kill one? It would be easy to measure the sag relative to a straight line (string) from nose to tail, so it would be nice to have a ball park figure, i.e. if more than 2 cm of sag, tighten until reduced to 1cm. Cheers, Gernot On Mar 26, 3:57 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Just completed a 200k on a Specialized Avatar. 6'6, 230. Supreme comfort. I'm pretty sore but not where I sit. Plus I drove home with the bike on the roof rack, in a pretty good rain. No worries about it getting ruined. Just sayin' On Sunday, March 25, 2012, davidfrench nydavidfo...@gmail.com wrote: I'd have loved to bring my opinion and say how bad my brooks felt under my butt for miles and miles but some bastard saved me from the pain of this useless hype and stole it downtown SF while i was at the movie theater for Tintin with the kid... I wish long long miles of butt pain to the one who inheritated it... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/417q7FgMtwcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any truly appealing panniers I'm missing?
Has anyone tried the new Brooks Land's End panniers? Look like roll- top Ortliebs, but made from a matte, greyish-brown waterproof synthetic with a subtle plaid weave. Look appealing, but double the price of the Ortliebs ($170 PER pannier). My assessment is that everything Brooks makes except for their steel-railed saddles is way overpriced. Too bad. The saddles OTOH are a bargain. Gernot On Mar 10, 3:10 am, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick, The Carradice Super C hooks are super nice. They start wide and then you engage the hook until it locks into the rack. It handles many widths of racks including my wider Old Man Mountain? rack and skinnier blackburn rack. The Ortlieb comes with different adapters that allow you to use it with different racks, so it's not as useful in that regard because you would have to change out the adapters to use with different racks (I don't know the maximum width). Best, Toshi On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Toshi. If I remember the Carradice system from the --- senile mental fart: forget the -- aha! Kendalls! -- If I remember those properly the C system was a bit less bulky than Ortlieb's; I had to grind the outer hook covers down on my Packers and smaller front packers to clear the fatter 1.35 Kojak when fitting them to the very minimalist Chauncey Matthews rear rack. I must check the Carradices if and when I next buy some. Meanwhile the Ortliebs are very, very nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any truly appealing panniers I'm missing?
The Carradice Super Cs do look really nice. A little proletarian, but purpose-built. Are the weights on the Carradice site accurate? Because if they are, they are about half the weight of Ortliebs (Super C: 1150g for 54L, Ortlieb Backroller: ~2180g for 50L). I always thought cotton duck, though nice, was heavy. Guess I was wrong? Or are they listing weight per pannier? But then Carradice's Ortlieb knock-offs are also more than double the weight... Thanks, Gernot On Mar 13, 2:07 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried the new Brooks Land's End panniers? Look like roll- top Ortliebs, but made from a matte, greyish-brown waterproof synthetic with a subtle plaid weave. Look appealing, but double the price of the Ortliebs ($170 PER pannier). My assessment is that everything Brooks makes except for their steel-railed saddles is way overpriced. Too bad. The saddles OTOH are a bargain. Gernot On Mar 10, 3:10 am, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick, The Carradice Super C hooks are super nice. They start wide and then you engage the hook until it locks into the rack. It handles many widths of racks including my wider Old Man Mountain? rack and skinnier blackburn rack. The Ortlieb comes with different adapters that allow you to use it with different racks, so it's not as useful in that regard because you would have to change out the adapters to use with different racks (I don't know the maximum width). Best, Toshi On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Toshi. If I remember the Carradice system from the --- senile mental fart: forget the -- aha! Kendalls! -- If I remember those properly the C system was a bit less bulky than Ortlieb's; I had to grind the outer hook covers down on my Packers and smaller front packers to clear the fatter 1.35 Kojak when fitting them to the very minimalist Chauncey Matthews rear rack. I must check the Carradices if and when I next buy some. Meanwhile the Ortliebs are very, very nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: One of the bikes you could have seen at NAHBS
That's bloody gorgeous (though the fork bend could be improved). I bet you it rides great. I have a 2009 Sam, a 2011 Rawland rSogn, and both are fabulous bikes. I also have a 1990 Fisher Sphinx (Gary's early take on a monstercross) which I have recently converted to a rigid 29er, and I am absolutely loving it. Though if someone wanted to trade their Hunqapillar for it, I wouldn't say no. :) Cheers, Gernot On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 6:37:58 AM UTC+7, William wrote: http://galluscycles.com/adventure_a.html I didn't catch this bike at the show in person, but it did catch my eye in the after-photos. It's built like an old Ritchey (fillets), to a geometry like a 1992 or 1993 Bridgestone, except it takes 650B wheels. Pretty darn sharp looking bike, IMO. I'm still making up my mind if I think this is being retro just for retro sake. The fact is a LOT of people are doing 1983 Stumpjumper restorations and loving them. So those bikes still work. Why not make a new bike that acknowledges that those bikes got several things right? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/t4YDx0rERmwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 30 km and 68 stream crossings ( better photos)
This was perhaps the most fun ride I have ever done. I looked on the OSM bike map for the area and discovered that the creek intersects a major road 6 km farther upstream, so perhaps we'll try to ride up the creek all the way next time, but I'll think I'll switch to the Fisher with its 50mm tires for that. Gernot Thailand On Mar 1, 10:11 am, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: This is awesome! I wish I know more creeks the movies look fun! On Feb 27, 5:32 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Paul on his Sam Hillborne and I re-rode the trail we discovered two weeks ago, but this time shortened the approach by driving his truck about 15km south of town so that we could explore a bit further before I had to get back to teach yoga. Paul also brought along his friend Rob, who borrowed my 1991 Gary Fisher Sphinx 29er (not a typo). Actually it was sold back then with 38mm knobbies and drop bars as a monstercross (another category that didn't exist in '91), but recently I put some Jones H-bars and XC Comp thumb shifters on for more technical off-road riding, and 50mm Marathon XRs. Photos start here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/page2/ We skipped the long dirt mountain pass, and rolled up the little remote valley in beautiful warm morning light, made even softer by the high air pollution from burned-off fields and forest understory. We zoomed past the Wat and were able to get more than twice as far up the dirt trail this time, and hit 68 instead of 30 stream crossings. We once again had to turn around because of time constraints, as we spent too much time taking photos, but by the time we turned around, the trail was mostly non-existent, running straight up the creek bed for hundreds of feet at a time, with only occasional on-land sections. But occasional ATV tire tracks where the trail entered and exited the creek showed us that it is actually in use, and that the locals really just drive up the creek. A few times the water was deep enough to submerge the hubs, but we kept going. Coming back down the trail, without stopping for photos, took us 35 minutes, during which we crossed the creek 34 times, so not quite one crossing per minute! Back on the road, once again racing against time, I almost ran over a 6 to 7 foot snake of unidentified species. I am pretty sure it was neither a cobra nor a python, but that's about all I can say. It looked grey with longitudinal stripes. It came out of nowhere crossing the road just in front of me, and braking with all I had I stopped less than a foot from it. Fortunately it just wanted to get away. Once again the Hetres on my rSogn did great, only failing on steep slick clay exits out of the creek. Gernot 68 stream and 1 snake crossing Huber Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hey, let's be careful out there...
What strikes me most is how the car driver is never, ever at fault. Might is right... Gernot On Mar 1, 11:21 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Lovely period knickers, though. On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Ah Robert Moses style propoganda, one can thank those attitudes for NYC being one of the least bike friendly cities in the US, no matter what Doomberg says! On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:58 PM, MSmith bee...@gmail.com wrote: 40's bicycle safety pamphlet. Dang, those things are dangerous! http://www.retronaut.co/2012/02/death-caused-by-carelessness-by-the-b... -Mike in wintry So. Boston, Mass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 30 km and 68 stream crossings ( better photos)
Paul on his Sam Hillborne and I re-rode the trail we discovered two weeks ago, but this time shortened the approach by driving his truck about 15km south of town so that we could explore a bit further before I had to get back to teach yoga. Paul also brought along his friend Rob, who borrowed my 1991 Gary Fisher Sphinx 29er (not a typo). Actually it was sold back then with 38mm knobbies and drop bars as a monstercross (another category that didn't exist in '91), but recently I put some Jones H-bars and XC Comp thumb shifters on for more technical off-road riding, and 50mm Marathon XRs. Photos start here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/page2/ We skipped the long dirt mountain pass, and rolled up the little remote valley in beautiful warm morning light, made even softer by the high air pollution from burned-off fields and forest understory. We zoomed past the Wat and were able to get more than twice as far up the dirt trail this time, and hit 68 instead of 30 stream crossings. We once again had to turn around because of time constraints, as we spent too much time taking photos, but by the time we turned around, the trail was mostly non-existent, running straight up the creek bed for hundreds of feet at a time, with only occasional on-land sections. But occasional ATV tire tracks where the trail entered and exited the creek showed us that it is actually in use, and that the locals really just drive up the creek. A few times the water was deep enough to submerge the hubs, but we kept going. Coming back down the trail, without stopping for photos, took us 35 minutes, during which we crossed the creek 34 times, so not quite one crossing per minute! Back on the road, once again racing against time, I almost ran over a 6 to 7 foot snake of unidentified species. I am pretty sure it was neither a cobra nor a python, but that's about all I can say. It looked grey with longitudinal stripes. It came out of nowhere crossing the road just in front of me, and braking with all I had I stopped less than a foot from it. Fortunately it just wanted to get away. Once again the Hetres on my rSogn did great, only failing on steep slick clay exits out of the creek. Gernot 68 stream and 1 snake crossing Huber Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...
Albeit with cantis, and low trail fork, the Rawland rSogn fits the bill as well, though it now retails for $725. It started at just over $500, and there has been at least one sale, I think. http://www.rawlandcycles.com/store/index.php?strWebAction=item_detailintItemID=3953 I got one to complement my Sam Hillborne, which is now set up for commuting and kid hauling. Aesthetically, the Sam's the winner, but in terms of versatility and sprightliness, the rSogn nudges ahead (thinner tubing, and fits 58mm knobbies, and I like the low trail for running a handlebar bag and still being able to peel oranges on the go). http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/6892390267/in/pool-71875606@N00/ Cheers, Gernot Thailand On Feb 19, 12:39 am, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote: I would think that the new (2011) Salsa Casseroll fits that description quite well, albeit with cantis, which to my mind are a perfectly fine solution. I went back and forth for a while between that and the Sam I ended up getting this summer. FWIW the decision came down to Riv being able to confidently recommend what size to get, which Salsa couldn't. I was ordering remotely on a tight schedule so that ended up being the critical factor for me. Pretty sure the Salsa would have done the job almost as well for a lot less $. Jay On Feb 18, 6:28 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Question: is there a truly budget minded bike that compares to a Rivendell? Something tig welded but lively and clearance for fat tires? It would be great if Grant could work with someone (Kona, Surly, Voodoo???) to come up with a made in Taiwan scorcher country bike. Tigged, powdercoated, traditional top tube (non-compact/expanded frame), tall headtube with threadless stem, spot on clearance for 57mm brakes, 430mm or so stays, $500. That's what the world needs. On 2/18/12, trek610 tspin...@gmail.com wrote: Very pretty build - I like way it has turned out. Very tasteful selection in components. Any thoughts on the ride VS the LHT? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BfLiGYMPXSoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best sellers-worst sellers
I am hoarding the last silver (painted) low normal XT derailers. They are decent looking, work great, and can be had pretty cheap. I think low normal is a great idea. I don't think you necessarily need to have the whole fleet set up the same way, IF you use different shifters with the different derailers. FWIW, my mtn tandem has a high normal derailer, a flat bar, and rapid fire shifters, and it causes no confusion with my low normal, friction-shifted bikes. Gernot Chiang Mai, Thailand On Feb 17, 9:43 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 06:32 -0800, newenglandbike wrote: I have low-normal derailleurs on a couple of my bikes. So much better than high-normal IMHO. Fine if: - you have them on all your bikes - you never have to change back If either of those two conditions is false, you are so screwed. Especially so since, as I understand it, they've been discontinued. That means at some point you *will* be forced to change back -- at which point, as I said, you are so screwed. By screwed I mean confusion as to the correct means to upshift or downshift. I've been through all this before, with front derailleurs. I used to use backwards-acting SunTour front derailleurs: SL, CompeV. I changed back almost 20 years ago, and even to this day once or twice a year I go the wrong way and end up shifting to the big ring when I meant to go to the granny. If you try to mix within the fleet, you will suffer constant confusion and will blow shifts by going in the wrong direction all the time. High normal works perfectly well. Any improvement would be trivial at best, in my opinion, and couldn't begin to compensate for the mental confusion these ass-backwards rear derailleurs cause. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front rack ideas
I second Doug's suggestion. I use a big Wald on a Nitto mini front for commuting and grocery-shopping, and have had over 30lbs in there on a Sam Hillborne. Not ideal, but it works. A Bombadil-riding buddy of mine had a pass and stow and sold it. I think front racks that attach at the drop outs tend to stiffen the fork too much. I'd go with the basket, or maybe a Platrack if you can find one. The great thing about the basket plus bungie net is that you can throw pretty much anything in there, from loose groceries to a messenger bag when you get too hot. The only thing it doesn't work for well is yoga mats, which are too long. :) Gernot On Feb 16, 5:38 am, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: John: Congrats on getting an Atlantis for a milestone b'day. Mine is coming up on 9 years old now it's still my go-to bike for everything. On your commute, are you carrying weight on the back and not much up front? On an 18% grade, that would be twitchy. I'm not familiar with the specific rack'n'bag combination you mention for the front but I can attest that my Atlantis (58 cm w/40mm tires) handles better with weight up front rather than at the rear, especially on steep grades where speeds are low. An easy, economical experiment would be to zip tie a basket to your mini-rack and carry your commute gear there in a stuff sack or similar cheap bag, just to see how you liked the handling. dougP On Feb 15, 1:18 pm, johnb jbust...@gmail.com wrote: Last year I got a new Atlantis for my 50th birthday. Originally, I outfitted it with a mini front rack with a small trunk sack and a Tubus Cargo on the back end. I bike commute to work 2-3 days/week. My ride to and from work involves 1 or 2 — depending on the route — 18% grades (one way with a cemetery conveniently located at the top of the steepest part). Having no weight on the front leaves the front a bit jumpy. My thinking is that if I put my clothes etc in the front, it will be less jumpy. I have some serious lust in my heart for a Pass and Stow rack for both its touring capabilities (in theory at least) and its hauling capabilities. Anyone with PS/Swift Industries/Freight Baggage bag combination experience I would be *really *interested in your thoughts. That said, any experiences good or bad with either the Pass and Stow or other bigger front rack/bag combinations would be greatly appreciated! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 70 km and 30 stream crossings
Today Paul (on his Rivendell Sam) and I (on my still new Rawland rSogn) decided to explore a road at the far point of our usual 50km mixed surface SW loop here in Chiang Mai, Thailand. We met up at 8:15 at the local market, had some hot fresh soymilk and tiny Thai- Chinese donuts (pa thong koh) from a street vendor, and headed south. Where the long dirt section dumps you back on tarmac past the halfway point, we have always gone left/downhill/back to town. Today we decided to go right, which on our GPS map meandered along a stream for perhaps 5km, and then seemed to dead-end. Sounded pretty, anyway. We had stopped at our usual watering-place, a Hmong village along the longest dirt section, where we were unable to buy liter bottles of water. Instead, not for the first time, our bottles were refilled from a big 20 liter jug, and payment was steadfastly refused, which gave me no choice but to buy a kilo of local mandarin oranges (for the even here ridiculous price of 30 cents) and stuff the bag in my handlebar bag. We would be glad to have them later. The new to us road took us over a ridge, and then dropped us along a narrow paved section into the next valley. The road was being widened, and the operator of an excavator blocking the entire road as it was chipping away at the cliff somehow saw us coming over his shoulder, suspended work and let us sneak by with a nod. No flagmen, here. Dropping down into the valley we found a merry creek and a lush valley floor, a welcome sight here at the height of the dry season. We began climbing up the valley past a couple of little villages and well- tended fields, and a few remaining forest giants above us on the lower slopes. The paved road ended at a little wat (Buddhist temple), where we took a brief rest and admired the plaster buddha statue under construction. Photos start here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/6870180197/in/photostream We continued along a dirt road into the remote upper reaches of the valley. After a couple of short steep climbs the valley flattened out again, and an occasional seepage of water from the slope to the left cooled the air and turned a section of road into rutted near-mud. This may not be a good ride in the wet season. As the road narrowed to a motorcycle trail, the creek started meandering like crazy from one side of the valley to the other, which meant that the trail, which ran more or less straight, crossed and re-crossed the stream every couple hundred meters on its way through orchards and tiny pastures. We counted 15 crossings before we had to turn around and recross them all. After making it through the first 3 or 4 unscathed (on 42mm Marathon Extremes and 42mm Grand Bois, respectively) we got cocky and really started to enjoy each crossing, Paul without fenders getting quite wet in the process, a welcome cool-down in the 90+ F / 30+ Centigrade heat. Some of the banks were quite steep and clay-y, which posed a bit of a challenge on the Hetres, especially since the water was deep enough that it was hard to maintain momentum all the way through the creek. So we didn't make it all the way up the far bank every time, but we did make it back onto dry ground every time. We started getting out our phone cameras to attempt some photography, but without too much success. We shall return with a real camera (and a dry bag, just in case). Having tarried, we needed to haul @ss back to town, as I had a yoga class to teach at 1 pm. Pushing hard climbing back over the ridge we got smiles and thumbs-up from the concrete-pouring crew. Somewhere along the way, running on empty, we made an emergency stop for a Coke, and had our water bottles forcibly refilled by the grandmotherly proprietor with water and ice. By the time we got back to the flat road home I was pretty bushed since I hadn't been riding much aside from my super short commute for the last couple of months, so Paul pulled us all the way back home in a mad 15km sprint. I got home, jumped in the shower, got on the scooter because my sit bones were hurting to the point where even sitting on the scooter was painful and riding a bike not to be contemplated. I got to the studio in time and taught my class basically without sitting down (I couldn't). A couple hours later the pain fortunately receded. I never had this happen quite this bad, and that even though I had swapped my most comfy B-17 from my own commuter/kid-hauler Sam Hillborne to my rSogn the night before. The sitbones (and attached hamstring tendons) felt mostly fine until the sprint, but during those last 30 minutes got progressively worse, slowing me down even more than the jello in my legs. Next time we'll take more time and add a few more stream crossings, hopefully following the creek all the way to the head of the valley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To
[RBW] Riv Email
Sorry to hear the SimpleOne isn't selling so well. I like it, but really can't justify another bike (I have 3 singles, 2 tandems). Regarding rain pants, I really prefer them in black, anyway. I make a point of buying bike jackets in bright colors, and I really think that black pants with good reflectors are perfectly fine. And they stay looking clean much better. Black pants and bright rain jacket seems like the perfect combo to me... Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fender Mounted Dyno Tail Light
Kelly, just get the Berthoud. It will last you for years, and will cost you pennies per ride. Anything you might find at half the price will not last half as long, or work as well. I think this is definitely a penny wise pound foolish situation. You might try to find a used on on the ibob group, though. I found an Acorn Boxy Rando that way and saved quite a bit. Gernot On Oct 25, 7:02 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Well I'm considering taking the rear rack off for a bit and mounting a fender mounted light on the rear. Is there a way to attach it to the underside of the fender? Do most just zip it to the fender stays and then frame up to the light? This is part of some goofy plan to clean up the rear of the bike then go with a large berthold rando bag on the front with a marks rack. (if I can ever get over the cost of the dang bag) While I'm asking.. anyone know another rando bag that is really really tall like bertholds at half the price.. :) Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] First Asian S24O?
Kip Paul Dave and I went out on our first S24O to celebrate Paul's birthday: Two Sams, a Bomba and a Heron: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/ Write-up to follow when my son stops crying. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pretty nice looking Hunqa-rack
I wish I had a bike with fork crown rack brazeons, but given how the struts attach to the Mark's with pivots, I'd guess that a Mini mounted to the fork crown hole would actually be stiffer/stronger, no? Why did you chose the Mark's for a cantilever bike? Gernot On Oct 22, 11:03 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: That setup looks good, Garth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Medium sized Wald basket with front light
Here is a photo of the setup you are looking for (but on a Mini, which has the same platform as a Mark's, n? If you use the light mount intended for the fork crown hole, it should be dandy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/6275708999/in/photostream/lightbox/ Gernot On Oct 23, 12:35 pm, Scotty bongos...@verizon.net wrote: Thanks for the replies. You guy always seem to come through when I need help. Ordered my basket today. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: schwalbe mondial
The Kevlar ones have DoubleDefense, the wire ones RaceGuard puncture protection. My guess is that DoubleDefense weighs more and negates the folding bead weight advantage. Nice to see that the XR is back in a different guise (I got the last two 50x700C from Riv), though the Mondial doesn't come as wide and sounds like it has beefier puncture protection, which in my book is a drawback. Gernot I don't get flats [and when I do, I don't mind them] Huber On Oct 23, 5:02 am, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Something about the weights doesn't seem right. In their other tires, the folding (Aramid? Kevlar?) bead versions are usually quite a bit lighter than the wire bead. This one seems to have comparable sizes weigh the same or close to it. Of course, for that kind of dough I want all the tire I can get; maybe there's a lot of rubber there. dougP On Oct 22, 1:34 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: those look intriguing. Golly, it won't be long before we are paying $100 per tire for a top notch tire. Good thing Schwalbes are good for many thousands of miles. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: First Asian S24O?
Yes, she is a real cutie, but that's a Yuba Mundo, not a Dummy. Gernot On Oct 24, 9:52 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Four Rivs, six top tubes! I like the photo of the little girl with her bike at the tail end of the Big Dummy. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Kip Paul Dave and I went out on our first S24O to celebrate Paul's birthday: Two Sams, a Bomba and a Heron: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/ Write-up to follow when my son stops crying. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 2009 Bombadil Frame and Fork, 64cm, old school parallel top tubes
I call my buddy's parallel TT Bomba, and my single TT Sam, 'superlights'. Gernot On Oct 21, 4:25 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Rather than 'old school' I prefer to call my parallelotube Bomba the 'ultralight' model. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Handlebar bag surprise
Before our weekly family ride I opened my handlebar bag to put my 1 year old son's rain poncho inside, and found this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/6203117089/in/photostream At first I thought it was one of those fat ponytail bands, and was wondering how it got there, when I saw a head-shaped thing that turned out to be a head. The little guy must have climbed up the wheel, spokes, fork head tube, etc. I don't know how a snake can climb a spoke...but there he was. After a gingerly relocation of the shower cap plus contents to the backyard we were on our way. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Handlebar bag surprise
Yeah, but this snake was a beauty! :) Gernot On Oct 2, 7:49 pm, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I think I'd rather find a chocolate bar, or a ten dollar bill I had forgotten about! michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?
Hear, hear, that is why my JB Greens have been replaced with 42mm Kenda Kwickroller E-Z Rides. Horrific name, but a good tire that doesn't just allow dirt road exploration, but single track exploration! Gernot On Sep 30, 9:36 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: The beauty of the JB's is that if you spot some dirt road going somewhere new, you can take a chance and see where it goes. To me, that's the best thing about riding fat road tires. Last night I was riding in a new area here in northern LA and ended up taking three different dirt roads, that all ended too quickly, and even some singletrack but it was still worth it just to be out on the bike exploring ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paris-Brest-Paris: The Movie
Hey, would love to see this, but also blocked in Thailand. Where is the downloadable version? Thanks! Gernot On Sep 30, 6:09 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I'm working on this. There will be a downloadable version of the file available tomorrow. –Eric On Sep 29, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: Which country are you in? Usually I see this when the audio is detected and blocked. I just checked and I see the video still here in the US (Northern California) Stephen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/65or3ELkgREJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Handlebar bag surprise
It was a Golden Tree Snake (we live in Thailand). Just found out that it belongs to the flying snake genus (Chrysopelea): http://siamfoundation.org/snakes-thailand/?Snake_Archive:Flying_Snakes:Golden_Tree_Snake That explains how it got into the handlebar bag. No spoke climbing needed. :) Gernot On Oct 3, 3:17 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Is that a California kingsnake? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fitting on the Sam Hillborne
You should be fine. I have an 83 PBH and ride a 56cm Sam with 40mm slicks or 42mm semi knobbies, even on rough single track. Plenty of crashes and dismounts, and no damage to the tender bits (yet). The advantage is that I can get drop bars high enough to mount a stem- mounted child seat (Bobike mini). Cheers, Gernot not a crotch worrier Huber On Sep 24, 9:32 pm, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: I have a PBH of 84.5 and the 56cm Hillborne fits me perfect. MAYBE the top tup is a little long and I should've purchased a shorter stem. (currently use a 9cm stem with 46cm noodles). I had been riding it with 37mm Panaracer Pasela's but a few months ago switch to Schwalbe Dureme 50's to see if they would fit. Naturally, I had to lose the fenders, but indeed they do fit. The huge tires brought the top tube up very very close, but I can still straddle the bike with just a bit of room. And, I wear very low shoes like, vans or cons. So... with a PBH of 84 you should totally fine as long as you don't go bigger than 40mm tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New vs original grid grey fabric and leather trimmings...
Kinda ironic that the fabric specifically designed for trucks (which are presumably longer/wider than 36) only comes in the narrower width. I like the look of the new leather and new fabric, even though it won't match my Shopsack L. Acorn also seems to be varying their shade of beige occasionally, presumably because of what is available. It's just life. And don't forget, bags fade, so a new one of identical fabric might not really match the one you've had on your bike for a year, anyway. Gernot On Sep 20, 10:02 pm, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: The bagmatching blues are inevitable when you're dealing with small production runs of fabric, leather, finishes...and those are at the heart of all of our bags. The grey grid fabric is made for truck tarpalins, and truckers don't care. They're just looking forward to the weekends. The same fabric happens to be super for our bike bags, and the maker makes a few runs of it a year---for high volume truck tarp use. I don't want to be the guy who cries out for a certain visibility-of-grid, or insists on them shipping the new stuff back at their expense (the Scots would tell me, in thick brogue, go to bloody he**!), and then wreck what started slow but has become a decent business relationship. I remember a batch of Carradice bags we got many years ago. That fabric stunk to high heaven. Carradice admitted it smelled a bit dodgy---a term I'd never heard before, but I can't even see a Dodge these days without thinking about it. They suggested we air them out for a day before filling orders. Tried that, but the stuff was not going away. Maybe it took a few weeks. A less visi-grid is less of a problem than that. BUT I getcha and agree. Same boat, same page, and I imagine I'll get used to it, too. It lacks the classy gangster-Yankee look we all recognize, but hey, the new leather looks kinda nice, don't it? Ultimately the grey grid fab will likely go away. It comes too narrow (36-in, compared to 60-in), and there's more waste. One thing, though. I bet the new look is the result of a thicker, even more superbly waterprooof coating. Could be that over time, those fine white lines will resurface. G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh
Yep. Your bike is dirty, and your garage is a real mess. ;) Love the look of the Berthoud flap and hardware. Gernot I don't see no dirt, time for new glasses? Huber On Sep 17, 6:42 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Photos here.. ya bike is dirty http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157627561999537/ Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Berthold Fender Installation- It went so smooth.. till it didn't.. sheesh
Mark. Remove. Drill. Reinstall. Mark the next. That sums it up. I don't find it tedious, but it ain't fast. Think of it as meditation and you'll be all right. And the Winter 2011 BQ article *is* excellent. I found the bit on how to massage the fender line especially helpful (bend the fender edges apart to decrease fender radius, push edges together to increase radius). I have had very little trouble with 2.5 VO alu fender installations (installed on two bikes, then moved one set to a third bike), but all three bikes had fender mounts on the brake bridge facing the hub. On the first one I didn't quite drill the bolt hole in the center and had to ovalize slightly. Take the BQ advice, use a punch or nail to mark the spot, start drilling with a small bit (2-3mm) and work your way up to 5mm. Next time I will drill the 3mm hole from the inside of the fender, but drill the final 5mm hole from the outside. That way you minimize the chance of slipping for the initial hole, but get the burr from the big hole on the inside of the fender where it doesn't show. Gernot On Sep 17, 5:27 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 15:07 -0700, Michael Hechmer wrote: Kelly, thank you, thank you, thank you for the honesty of your post. As both an amateur mechanic and amateur woodworker I have been repeatedly snookered by expert instructions that lulled me into thinking something would be straightforward and doable, only to be reduced to speaking anglo-saxon. Last night I installed a pair of the tektro canti brakes and discoverd that the instructions failed to mention that only a mutant with four hands would find this straight forward. I have bikes with plastic, aluminum, and steel fenders but I wouldn't ever again install fenders without both rereading the instructions and remembering that it will be a PIA. Actually, installing Honjo fenders is pretty straightforward - there's nothing really 'clever' or 'complex' about it - but it's slow and can't be hurried. Reading the instructions about 20 times for a week or two ahead of time, and working on visualizing what goes on helps. Understanding on a deep-down level that it simply cannot be hurried or sped up helps the most. One. Step. At. A. Time. First install. Mark. Remove. Drill. Reinstall. Mark the next. Remove. Drill. Reinstall. Mark. Remove. Drill. Reinstall. Breathe. Once you get your mind wrapped around the pace - the process as a whole, but especially the pace - it's not really much of a pain in the a$$. At least, not until your hand cramps and you drop the parts to the draw bolt in the grass and can't find them again. It helps a lot to spread some cloth under where you're working, because your hand is almost certainly going to cramp and you almost certainly are going to drop /something/. The instructions on the VO and Jitensha web sites are pretty good. So, too, are the articles published in BQ. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best/Favorite/Most Radical Cantilever Brakes
I really like the CR720s. Got em on two bikes now, and will buy more. Have early 90s Campy high-profile Touring cantis as well (http:// ruedatropical.com/2009/06/rhygin-metax-randonneur/). Love them, but the old smooth brake post cantis are harder to adjust, if that matters to you. And they are very hard to find and expensive now. Late 80s XT high profile cantis are also nice, but have the same more fiddly adjustability. I just bought some smooth-post brake pads with replaceable pads to reduce the need for adjustment on the old brakes. Tried the current med profile Shimanos (BRR550). Didn't like them as much as the CR720s, and more expensive. Haven't tried Pauls, and probably never will. CNC machining just seems like the wrong way to do bike parts (Not as strong as forging, and thus have to be chunkier). Cheers, Gernot On Sep 17, 3:38 am, Daniel datadatadan...@gmail.com wrote: I have me a pair of them newfangled XT low profile cantis on a bike and am doggone dis'pointed in them. The time has come for me to take the bull by the horns and find me some replacements. I have experience with the Tektro CR720s and am generally pleased with them. If I decide to drop more coinage, is there another, better high profile canti. Certainly everything Paul is top shelf and the Bruce Gordon cantis are the most beautiful I've ever seen. Should I just keep it simple and go the the Tektro or is there any advantage going with something else? Any/all opinions are much uh-preciated. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Build + Reaction
Congrats. Looks lovely. I really like the new green. If you need to go cheap on the seatpost, the VO one is very nice. I have misgivings about a lot of VO products, but none about the seatpost. Gernot On Sep 2, 10:31 pm, Aaron Schmidt librar...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'll heap the usual accolades on my SH. I'm enjoying it! Here are some pics. (You'll notice I hadn't put corks in the bar ends yet.) http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronschmidt/sets/72157627576754086/with... It is replacing a LHT and I'm really pleased that, with my Thumbies set up the way they are, all it'll take to put a new stem/drop bar on is a quick switch of brake cables/housing. Probably a 10 minute job. Once I can find some gum/silver Cane Creeks (hey, anyone have some to sell me?) I'll get that option going. In case you're curious, it weighs 29 pounds as built. Whether it is the missing few pounds, the design, or nicer tubes, it feels more sprightly than the LHT. The E3 Triple is fantastic and the SONdeluxe is powering it just fine. I had my bars set way high at first and the bike felt extremely twitchy. It actually felt more stable riding with no hands! I lowered the bars about an inch and the problem was totally resolved. I've got a Loyal Designs bag on order. Yay. Besides this, I need to get a setback seat post. The narrowing of the Brooks rails prevents me from an ideal position. Super pleased with my first Riv! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)
Thanks for that explanation, William, that was enlightening, and jives with my experience. The way my non- engineer's brain makes sense of this is this: The main brake cable moves up when you engage the brake. For a high profile canti to engage you also mostly need to pull up on the straddle wire, and inward a little. On a low profile canti, you mostly have to pull *in* on the straddle cable, while pulling up does very little good. So on a low profile canti the straddle cable has to change the direction of force from the main brake cable, and yes, that's easy to get wrong. On a high profile canti, the straddle cable serves merely as an extension of the brake cable transferring the brake force to both arms. It doesn't have to change the direction of the force, and is thus relatively immune to geometry. (I am sure this explanation won't satisfy an engineer, but it works for me) :) Gernot On Aug 30, 12:23 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Sheldon (RIP) did a great job of laying out the geometry factors, but didn't really get to the punchline. The punchline, in my opinion is that the mechanical advantage of high profile cantilevers is almost constant regardless of straddle cable length. Brakes like Tektro CR720s and old Mafacs and similar, has a particular mechanical advantage. You can adjust that a tiny bit, like a few percent, by raising or lowering the straddle wire hanger, but you can't make a major change, no matter where you put it. The upshot is, if you like how those brakes feel with your lever, then be happy, because there is almost nothing you can do to mess it up. If you don't like how they feel (probably because of too little mechanical advantage), then you can tinker all day long with straddle position, and it really won't do much. A different lever that changes mechanical advantage might make a difference. A different brake pad compound that doesn't need as much force to grab might make a difference, but high profile cantilevers are not very tuneable. You'll see some folks running their straddle right above the fender, and others several inches higher. Those two setups won't feel a lot different, all else being equal. The Riv-ish upside to this is that if you use high profile cantis with a lever that works, you can raise the straddle high to clear your rack, fender, and fat tire, and still get similar braking. Low profile cantilevers are super tuneable, but that give you more opportunity to get it wrong. If you are forced to move the straddle to clear a fender or rack, you may be disappointed at the major effect that had on braking performance.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Carrying yoga mat on your Rivendell?
I carry my super heavy Manduka, or up to 3 regular mats (for teaching privates) lengthwise on my Tubus Vega rear rack with one of those flat multi-strand bungees going from near one drop out to the other. With a long heavy mat it's important to place some of the strands close to the saddle so the mat can't cantilever itself off the rack. Lengthwise carrying helps with lane splitting... :) Cheers, Gernot On Aug 28, 10:01 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Brett if you're not trying to be snarky or derisivw then I apologize but I don't think that tone is necessary for this thread. It's a legitimate question, I think. -sv On Aug 28, 2011 10:55 AM, Brett Lindenbach brett.lindenb...@gmail.com wrote: Great topic: how do I attach my $100 yoga mat to my $3000 bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Wu39UirUnMQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: It doesn't look bad without fenders, no?
It's called cold setting. :) Keep the bolt through the crown locked in place, undo the P-clamps, and then massage the rack into the right shape with your bare manly hands. If you are gentle, it should be fine. They actually bend with surprisingly little force. I just did it to my Nitto M-12 to fit on my new rSogn, which has ridiculous tire clearance and thus more than the usual distance between canti-brake brazeons and fork-crown hole. Gernot On Aug 27, 5:48 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The struts are welded to the top, and they are tubular stainless steel: how can I bend them without either breaking them off or crimping them? On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I am glad so many people like your bike as is, Patrick, so I don't have to feel so bad saying this: :) I like it too, but since you have the front rack on P-clamps, why not move them lower and bend the rack stays a bit so you can get the rack level? I don't mind the look of bikes without fenders (see my Sam: http://tinyurl.com/3epfv47;though it has been sporting fenders for the last 16 months or so) but a largish frame with skinny 26 tires would to my mind look better with fenders, just because it makes the wheels look more in proportion with the frame. Of course I am not advocating putting on fenders just for aesthetic reasons. If it don't rain where you ride, and no one waters the road, neither, why bother? Gernot On Aug 26, 8:55 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I'm actually starting to like fenderless bikes. I took the fenders off my Bleriot recently and really like the way it looks. Your bike looks fantastic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)
Agreed, it is a very nice-looking hanger, and most importantly for me, it uses a 10mm box wrench and a 5mm? Allen key to adjust. How many of you carry 2 separate 9 or 10mm box wrenches, which most straddle cable hangers from the last 70 years require? And how often does one or the other of those box wrenches slip? holding the hanger in place with an Allen key is much more secure as you tighten the 10mm nut. But what is the durned Philips head screw for? What Montclair BobbyB said? I still think it's a holder for the main brake cable... Gernot On Aug 28, 11:17 am, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: The argument that the Tektro hanger is the best...is a funny argument at some level, because any decent one from the pas 70 years is 98 percent as good as any other, including this. The Tektro *wins*--my opinion--the final 2 unimportant percent, because if for any reason (can think of two offhand) your cantilevers aren't opening evenly, then the set-screws allow you to shift the hanger off-center and keep it there to compensate. It is a nice-looking hanger, in any case. Tektro is a neat company. They don't wait, they don't copy, they know brakes and they innovate. They made the long-reach sidepulls (Silver and R556) when Shimano wouldn't even respond to the inquiry, and neither did Dia-Compe. Tektro listened, understood, and DID it---and figured out the wide-opening q/r that we requested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)
Just installed my second pair of these lovely bargains from Riv, and am once again flumoxed by the seemingly superfluous fat philips-headed screw on the straddle wire hanger. The two tiny allen headed screws are to arrest straddle wire movement, okay. Why do you need the third screw? I just looked at the Tektro site (http://tinyurl.com/4xd38ta) and it seems they are using the fat philips screw as a resting place for the loose end of the main brake cable. Is that its one and only intended purpose? Seems like a strange raison d'etre for a screw, but I guess it works. Any other thoughts on what it's for? Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
