Re: [RBW] ORtlieb backroller panniers & carryon.

[Julian Westerhout]

Ortleib's hardware is mostly molded plastic/nylon,  not something that is 
likely to alarm sensors or TSA agents. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 8:11:14 AM UTC-5 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote:

> So TSA  does not reject the pannier’s hardware when you carry it on the 
> plane?
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Steven Sweedler
> *Sent:* Monday, May 20, 2024 6:42 AM
> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] ORtlieb backroller panniers & carryon.
>
>  
>
> I’ve used one of mine with the shoulder strap a few times and found I 
> prefer a backpack while I drag two bike boxes in and out of the airport. 
> The single shoulder strap was not as stabe as the backpack. 
>
> Steven Sweedler
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
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>
>  
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 9:21 PM Bernard Duhon  
> wrote:
>
> Would any of you share your experience in using an Ortlieb backroller 
> panniers as airline  carry on luggage,.
>
>  
>
> That is of course without getting kicked out by TSA.
>
>  
>
> Thanks
>
>  
>
> Bernard 
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[RBW] Re: FS: 4 pairs of 2XL Rivendell Aussie wool boxer briefs

[Julian Westerhout]

Sold. Thanks!   

On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 3:38:30 PM UTC-5 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For Sale:   3 pairs of brand new-never put on @XLAssuie Wool Boxer briefs 
> from Rivendell:   https://www.rivbike.com/products/aussie-wool-trunks   
> These are great, but I really like a longer inseam on my boxers, so…. 
>
> A fourth pair was tried on and washed — it’s included as well — so 4 pairs 
> in total. 
>
> These sell for $46 each from Riv, so  $138 for 3 or $184 for 4. 
>
> I’m asking for $75 new to me plus shipping for al four pairs. 
>
> Contact off list, please. 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, Il
>
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[RBW] Re: Caution: "Cuddle Bears"

[Julian Westerhout]

Jim, 

On Cuddle Bears' FS post thread they decline to reveal their location, say 
they won't reveal their name, and don't address their use of someone else's 
photos in their FS thread.  That thread also marks the first post by Cuddle 
Bears (perhaps they are a regular poster under another name, but that in 
and of itself is more than a bit peculiar...) -- those are all red flags 
for me.  I think Max has a point -- Caveat Emptor. Be warned. FWIW, I'd not 
trust Cuddle Bears given the history of scammers -- this is a community -- 
new identities shrouded making an FS post shrouded in secrecy are not ideal 
ways to be a good member of the community. 

Regards, 

Julian Westerhout 

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 10:40:20 AM UTC-5 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Max - 
> I realize you have been in this group for a while, but unless you have 
> something concrete to offer, I'd ask that you refrain from posting 
> commentary like this. It's exceedingly vague. If you are an injured party 
> in a specific transaction, that's different. But it did not seem that way 
> from this post. 
>
> If I understand the issue - a seller repurposed a photograph of a pair of 
> handlebars. That seems to be the one issue at this point. 
>
> As I said in a separate thread - if you have specific _experience_ with a 
> seller, you are welcome to email the admin - that would be me - with 
> information.
>
> Most of the recent scam attempts - and there are very few here - are via a 
> DM from someone who has not taken the time to post anything. In this case, 
> while I certainly encourage caution on any transaction, let's dial things 
> back a notch, OK?
>
> Jim / list admin
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:04:46 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>
>> Cuddle Bears is / are selling a Susie bike for a very good asking price, 
>> almost too good to be true. User has no prior posts, a few other details 
>> don't check out. Use caution. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Kickstand bolt size

[Julian Westerhout]

You need an M10X 1.5 bolt --most likely 16mm or 20mm in length.   If you 
have the old bolt the best thing to do is to take it to your local hardware 
store where you'll almost certainly find a bolt/nut sizer in the bulk 
hardware aisle -- then find the allen headed bolt you need in the bolt 
drawers and you'll be all set! 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 12:10:41 PM UTC-5 JL V wrote:

> Hi guys any idea what size of bolt can fit on the kickstand? Planning to 
> replace my bolt to allen head. I'm using the BL select greenfield by the 
> way. Thanks 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Tosco-moose and Choco-moose handlebars -- new

[Julian Westerhout]

Toscos are sold, Chocos are pending. 

Thanks, 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 8:47:00 AM UTC-5 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For sale are two new, never mounted handlebars. 
>
> The first is a quill-stem Choco-moose. 
>
> The second is a Tosco-moose 60 cm with 1/1/8" threadless stem mount. 
>
> $110 each plus shipping. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL
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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B17 Narrow and Selle San Marco Regal saddles

[Julian Westerhout]

Regal saddle has sold, B17 narrow still available. 

On Monday, March 25, 2024 at 7:14:54 AM UTC-5 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> Price drop -- $65 plus shipping for the B17 narrow, $50 for the Regal plus 
> shipping. 
>
> On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 9:54:53 AM UTC-5 Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
>> For sale are two very lightly used saddles with original boxes. 
>>
>> The first is a Brook B17 Narrow   $75 plus shipping
>>
>> The second is a Selle San Marco Regal  $60 plus shipping 
>>
>> See photos for condition (both look very good -- minor discoloration of 
>> rivets, and a tint nick on the underside of the Regal are all I can see). 
>>
>> All proceeds will go to my local bike co-op. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20240324_142255676.MP.jpeg][image: 
>> PXL_20240324_142311263.jpeg][image: PXL_20240324_142317470.jpeg][image: 
>> PXL_20240324_142326170.jpeg][image: PXL_20240324_142400760.jpeg][image: 
>> PXL_20240324_142441638.jpeg][image: PXL_20240324_142451628.MP.jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B17 Narrow and Selle San Marco Regal saddles

[Julian Westerhout]

Price drop -- $65 plus shipping for the B17 narrow, $50 for the Regal plus 
shipping. 

On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 9:54:53 AM UTC-5 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For sale are two very lightly used saddles with original boxes. 
>
> The first is a Brook B17 Narrow   $75 plus shipping
>
> The second is a Selle San Marco Regal  $60 plus shipping 
>
> See photos for condition (both look very good -- minor discoloration of 
> rivets, and a tint nick on the underside of the Regal are all I can see). 
>
> All proceeds will go to my local bike co-op. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> [image: PXL_20240324_142255676.MP.jpeg][image: 
> PXL_20240324_142311263.jpeg][image: PXL_20240324_142317470.jpeg][image: 
> PXL_20240324_142326170.jpeg][image: PXL_20240324_142400760.jpeg][image: 
> PXL_20240324_142441638.jpeg][image: PXL_20240324_142451628.MP.jpeg]

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[RBW] Re: Give this guy a Like and a Subscribe

[Julian Westerhout]

Thanks for sharing -- nice understated video that really is worth watching 
-- makes me want to go cycle in Korea!  

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, Il 


On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 10:16:40 PM UTC-6 Hoch in ut wrote:

> Nice video of his adventures aboard a Clem in Korea. 
>
> https://youtu.be/IFoDkOQjk08?si=tOa6oP0IbiZmwNRQ
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Re: [RBW] Revisiting the Nitto 52f Basket Rack

[Julian Westerhout]

Leah, 

Assuming that the issue is wheel flop when parking or loading the bike, 
consider the Steerstopper. https://steerstopper.com   Not cheap, but works 
great for its intended purpose. I have one on my Clem with a large front 
basket (used for commuting and everyday riding) and we have one on our 
Bilenky touring tandem. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 11:39:30 AM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:

> Aesthetically meh but how about a wheel stabilizer such as:
> [image: dropped_out_86a3211e-bc6d-4631-8d90-bb7f4587c17e.JPG]
>
> Wheel Stabilizer <https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-wheel-stabilizer>
> velo-orange.com <https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-wheel-stabilizer>
> <https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-wheel-stabilizer>
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2024, at 09:34, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> 
> 
>
> 
> Hi Friends,
>
> I’ve had a Nitto Basket Rack from Rivendell for a few years. I think it 
> looks awesome, it’s dead useful, but it annoyed me that it was heavy and 
> made my bars swing around on my mermaid Platy. But as I plan the build for 
> my 50 cm purple Platy (which is taking a million years) I am considering 
> putting the basket rack back into service. It pains me to see it sitting, 
> and it’s so pretty and unique that I just want to give it another try. 
> Maybe the 650b wheels will be less floppy with this rack? Maybe the 
> smaller, lighter bike won’t seem as penalized by the heft of this rack? It 
> would be such an easy experiment if it wasn’t for the dyno light/wiring 
> that is affected by the decision. It’s not a matter of simply pulling the 
> rack, because wire length, light mount, etc are affected and will not be an 
> easy switch. My shop hates soldering and I certainly can’t do it. 
>
> I had started a thread long ago about this and a lot of people reported 
> similar experiences. Now that some more years have gone by, I’m curious if 
> opinions have changed, or if more people have these racks and would offer 
> their opinions. There isn’t much in the way of reviews to read online. 
> Maybe some here would offer theirs. If more folks are trying and loving 
> their Nitto Basket Racks, I’ll be likely to install mine. 
>
> Meanwhile, this beautiful Platypus sits in my living room on the shelf, 
> waiting for its parts to return from the anodizer. And, there’s fresh snow 
> on the ground. But talking bikes will get me through!
> Leah
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[RBW] Re: Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

[Julian Westerhout]

I plan on being there on Saturday opening through mid-afternoon -- but with 
my Brompton, not one of my Rivs...   :) 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 7:56:02 PM UTC-6 Roberta wrote:

>
> I received this from Tom, who said it was ok to post for him. I look 
> forward to meet you, Tom. 
>
>i and friend patty will be there saturday mid morning thru sunday 
> afternoon staying  near expo
>
>
> She ll have her new purple platy and i will have one of my rivs  so 
> looking fwd to it  and we d be up for dinner satdy anywhere
>
>
> Can t reply to all from my phone  so just letting you know
>
>
> Tom horton  salisbury md
> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 5:39:13 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I’ll be there! I will be staying with a RivSister in a hotel close to the 
>> Convention Center. Not sure which Platypus I’m bringing, but I’ll 
>> definitely have one because I plan to do some of the featured rides during 
>> the weekend. Let’s all connect!
>> L
>>
>> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 5:22:03 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> https://phillybikeexpo.com/
>>>
>>> Lots of things to do--the expo, rides, parties, coffee and meet ups.
>>>
>>> I'm going.  Who else?  I'm within walking distance to the expo (but will 
>>> be riding my Betty Foy there, because, well..., I should ride).  If anyone 
>>> needs any local assistance, please reach out via DM.  
>>>
>>> There is free bike valet parking by Neighborhood Bike works, and 
>>> donations accepted.  It's a great way to fund the community bike center.
>>>
>>> I hope to meet or see again lots of us happy Riv riders.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 700c Riv Clem wheel set

[Julian Westerhout]

These wheels have sold. Thanks!

On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 12:55:06 PM UTC-6 jan.ot...@gmail.com wrote:

> PM sent.
>
> Jan
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Re: [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation

[Julian Westerhout]

Bernard, 

I have used the A520 on several single bikes and on a tandem for many 
issue-free miles. Good foot support, they work well, and, IMHO, fit the Riv 
aesthetic as well as aclipless pedal can They are also available used in 
good shape for not much money, which is a bonus. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 8:42:17 AM UTC-6 ber...@bernardduhon.com 
wrote:

> Any experience with the A 520 pedal which is the precursor of the A 600 & 
> es 600  (( not the double sided m 520)
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Piaw Na
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 21, 2024 4:48 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch 
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: SPD pedal recomendation
>
>  
>
> If you're not going to do serious single track I highly recommend the 
> PD-ES600. https://blog.piaw.net/2022/10/review-shimano-pd-es600.html
>
>  
>
> My friends were really skeptical that it would make any difference 
> compared to the venerable and well respected (deservedly so) M520s, but the 
> wings and wider platform definitely make these pedals feel much better 
> connected than the M520s, and are the first pedals I've tried that I 
> consider a significant improvement over the M520s. My biggest issue with 
> them is that you have to mount them with an allen wrench instead of having 
> wrench flats. Beware though, they're singled sided (which is what makes the 
> connection feel so nice --- the design wouldn't have worked with a 
> double-sided pedal, I don't think)! But for paved riding they're really 
> awesome.
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 1:13:12 PM UTC-8 Bernard Duhon wrote:
>
> I am in the hunt for a set of dual sided SPD pedals. 
>
> I'm going flat on my touring bike but there is too much total overlap on 
> one of my bikes to do anything but a clip .
>
> I have been riding the old  Onza elastomer SPD's. 
>
>  
>
> any suggestions? 
>
>  
>
> Benard
>
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[RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

[Julian Westerhout]

I watched the RAGBRAI film -- the actual ride is much better than the film 
-- which was interesting, but focused more on the folks they followed than 
on the RAGBRAI experience itself, IMHO. 

RAGBRAI is worth doing at least once. Hoteling is pretty much not going to 
happen -- although there is a a super-expensive charter that has a 
tractor-trailers with micro rooms for the week. RVs  seem to be an option 
for some, too.  The main RAGBRAI camping area is a madhouse, but cheap. 
 There are lots of private charters and clubs who offer various levels of 
service -- some include options like tent and gear rental (even with 
setup).  I've used Brancel charters twice -- they're somewhere in the 
middle -- good services, decent spots, their own shower trucks (a must, 
IMHO), and I believe tent rental option. Brancel moves the bikes across the 
state in a tractor trailer, but very well padded. I've gone with my 68 cm 
Rivendell Atlantis with fenders, lights, etc. with zero issues. Our bikes 
are a lot tougher than the fragile carbon bikes that predominate, and 
they're used to babying those, so...:) 

Some are wackos on the ride, but most are great, and it is a cultural 
experience for sure. You'll meet many great and interesting folks, and your 
Riv will be admired more than most -- my friends (all on carbon) got tired 
of folks saying "nice bike" to me -- and the folks who actually know what 
it is will really dig it -- and there are a few fellow Riv-riders you'll 
probably see along they , too. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 5:33:07 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Who knows about Bike Film Festival? 
>
> I paid for the pass to watch this year’s videos and it was money 
> well-spent. I got to the RAGBRAI documentary last night. Wow. I had heard 
> of it but really knew nothing about it and now I would just love to figure 
> out how to ride it this year. It just looks like such an experience. And 
> I’ve had very few experiences, because I’m late to the bike adventure scene 
> AND I’ve been raising kids! But now they are teenagers and might not even 
> know that I’m gone so maybe I should ride this epic ride!
>
> There are a ton of logistics I don’t understand. I think you need a 
> “charter” to haul your stuff, yes? And to bring you back across the state 
> after you finish? And if you use these “charters” do they trash your bike 
> in their racks or will they have something that can handle a a mixte with 
> fenders? Is there are charter that is more friendly to Riv bikes than the 
> others?
>
> Also, no camping. I’m really hoping to end up in a hotel or some sort of 
> dwelling. I don’t have any tents, don’t know how to pitch tents and so on. 
> This may be the thing I can’t plan my way out of, because there are so many 
> riders moving through tiny host towns.
>
> I’ll look up more info tonight after I get my chores done! But it really 
> is so exciting to imagine riding my bike across a whole state… Also, it’s 
> Real Winter here in Michigan, so maybe that’s why this hits different.
>
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2 Very nice, thickish merino/synth LS cycling sweaters, New + NIP, size XL

[Julian Westerhout]

Patrick, 

How do they fit compared to "most"   XLs?   Bigger? Smaller?  Sleeves? 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 4:17:47 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> My failure to do due diligence about size is your opportunity to buy very 
> nice -- design, material, and construction -- cycling sweaters with full 
> zips, high mock T neck, and sturdy zipped rear pockt. The yellow one is new 
> or as new and removed from the package only to try on; the blue one was 
> removed from the package only to photograph it.
>
> $60 each + shipping; $17.10 Medium Priority box; take both for $135.00 
> CONUS. I can also ship USPS ground.
>
> -- 
>
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
> ---
>
> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing 
> services
>
>
> ---
>
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>
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>
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Re: [RBW] Re: A Homer Hill build....

[Julian Westerhout]

Bill, 

This makes me wonder if there's a Rohloff-equipped bike in your stable!  ;) 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 10:48:53 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Therese is a delightful person and a very good rider.  I used to run 
> across her a lot in the East Bay and at SFR events, but I don't think our 
> paths have crossed lately.  
>
> She's also a fair bit more enlightened about gearing than the filmmaker. 
>  Her set up isn't perfect, but it's close (IMHO).  
>
> The film makes me want to set a Diablo goal for 2024.  I've summited 
> Diablo maybe 10 times, but I want to do multiple summits this year.  I'm 
> going to start with 5 as my goal, with the extra challenge that I want to 
> do it on 5 different bikes in my stable.  If I manage that, then summit #6 
> will be on a derailleurless bike.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 7:53:19 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2-hdvGWjU_channel=Henrywildeberry
>>
>> I found a youtube video that is exactly how I want to ride 
>>
>> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 5:04:42 AM UTC-8 Sarah Carlson wrote:
>>
>>> All these responses have given me so much to think about, I appreciate 
>>> all the help. Thank you!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 7:01:05 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> My low on a 650B bike in Lake County, CA., is 26 x 50. It's useful! 
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 1:25:54 PM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Greater Bay Area is full of 13-24% grades (which is where Sarah 
>>>>> lives). Visitors from other areas (including places like Colorado) 
>>>>> frequently drop their jaws when they see what the local touring clubs 
>>>>> ride 
>>>>> as a matter of course. A 24x36 drivetrain isn't too low a gear here, 
>>>>> especially if you're carrying a load. On my triplet, I had a 24x36 and 
>>>>> still couldn't climb anything over a 12% grade when carrying panniers. On 
>>>>> my single bike I have a 40x51, and just manage to make it up a 30% grade, 
>>>>> which required shifting my weight between the rear and front wheels in 
>>>>> order to keep both wheels on the ground while grinding away. Here in the 
>>>>> greater San Francisco Bay Area, your bike can never be too light, you can 
>>>>> never be too wealthy, and you can never have gears too low!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 1:13 PM Greg J  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> @Sarah - maybe the easiest thing is to go on a ride with some local 
>>>>>> list members who can give you some ideas while you're actually riding on 
>>>>>> these roads.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, have you ridden a 24T granny on the road---and if so, 
>>>>>> with what rear cog?  A 24 is really very low for the road (but not for 
>>>>>> dirt), and a 24T - 32 in the back may be too low to be useful.  A 26 or 
>>>>>> even a 28 may be a better granny depending on your cassette range.  But 
>>>>>> as 
>>>>>> mentioned already, only you know what works for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Selling Betty Foy and Ives Gomez

[Julian Westerhout]

Those both sound like very nice bikes. Photos added to the post would 
really help  (if you're not sure how to do that if you are using the web 
interface for this group you can add photos to a post by clicking on the 
icon that looks like two small mountains in a square at the bottom of the 
posting window), as would information on location and asking price. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 10:37:16 AM UTC-6 wpes...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am selling both bikes which we purchased in 2013. We hate to sell but in 
> our age biking is no longer possible. The 60 cm Ives Gomez has top of the 
> line components upgrades including White Industries hubs and bottom 
> bracket, Paul center pull brakes, Nitto front and rear racks, Bull Moose 
> handle bar, Shimano Ultegra Derailleurs. The bike is in very good condition 
> with only very minor paint scratches. The 55cm Betty Foy is in superb as 
> new condition with a spare set of fenders. If anyone is interested please 
> let me know. I can send pictures. 

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[RBW] Re: Studs for Winter Riding?

[Julian Westerhout]

I'm impressed and/or depressed at the sight of lovely Hunqs being ridden in 
snow and ice.  In the middle of Illinois we get snow and ice but always 
accompanied by lots of road salt. I commute in those conditions on an old 
Schwinn High Sierra set up as a 1 x 6 with Marathon winter tires with studs 
-- and stop only when I have far better traction than the cars (that's when 
i fear being squashed by a sliding SUV- on those rare days I'll take the 
bus).   The horrible road salts (and my twice-a-season cleaning of the old 
Schwinn)  are slowly eating the Schwinn alive , but it is sacrificial, and 
my Rivs are not. I envy those of you who live in climes with little or no 
salt on the roads -- I remember fondly the winters in SW Colorado in the 
1990s when I lived there -- no salt, only cinders in the corners. 

Julian Westerhout
Waiting for winter to actually arrive this year in Bloomington, IL 



On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 11:18:29 AM UTC-6 Mackenzy Albright 
wrote:

> John - Ive ridden extensively with both studs and regular tires through 
> severe Minnesota and Alberta winters. Back when winters had a fair amount 
> of temperature consistency I found fat MTB tires were excellent. I loved 
> when the cold weather hit -19*c and packed snow becomes hard and squeaky. 
> It's a joy to ride. Most trail riding was perfectly adequate if not 
> excellent. 
>
> With the winters these days heavy freeze thaw as well as increased cycling 
> traffic on winter trails I found things ice up much more often.  I was also 
> commuting extensively and found the 45N kahvas to be excellent and worth 
> the money. 
>
> Now that I'm in Vancouver I don't bother with anything but fenders. If 
> it's slippery I take the bus!
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 10:22:53 AM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Thanks again to all of you experienced winter riders for the illuminating 
>> discussion and worthy suggestions. One significant factor that I don't 
>> contend with anymore is the commute to work, so my winter riding is 
>> strictly for pleasure. Since most of my riding is on country gravel roads I 
>> also don't have to suffer pavement and, in Takashi's words, 'the sound like 
>> the end of the world is coming'. 
>>
>> I've been riding with my very low-tread WTB Nano's in the packed snow and 
>> relying on the handling skills honed from over 50 years of riding. So far 
>> so good. I don't ride super fast in these conditions and whenever one of my 
>> tires tries to slip out from under me I'm able to correct and hold it 
>> together, and this always makes me laugh as though I've cheated death or 
>> something. 
>>
>> Again, I am a believer that the right equipment makes a world of 
>> difference, but I also really appreciate Andy's reminder that there is no 
>> substitute for skillful bike handling. Combining the two is certainly the 
>> sweet spot, but for the time being, I think I will forgo the Schwalbe Ice 
>> Spikers and focus on mindful riding and practicing my winter riding skills 
>> with what I've got. 
>>
>> I'll let you know if I end up knocking out my front teeth. 
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:02:16 AM UTC-8 Marc Irwin wrote:
>>
>>> I've used both Nokian  and Schwalbe Marathon Winter on my Hunq.  I 
>>> prefer the Schwalbe.
>>>
>>> Marc[image: 1213150841_05-SNOW.gif]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 8:34:32 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Went for a ride in snow today and had a blast! I also slipped around a 
>>>> little bit as I tried to follow the packed snow of tire tracks. Got me 
>>>> thinking about studded tires. I've never ridden them before and know 
>>>> nothing about them. 
>>>>
>>>> Do any of you fine folks with more experience in such matters than me 
>>>> have any recommendations for studded tires for my Hunq?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, John
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS Ortlieb City Back roller panniers

[Julian Westerhout]

Panniers are sold.  Thanks. 

On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 9:56:57 AM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For sale is one set of red/black Ortlieb City Back roller Panniers in very 
> good, almost new condition. 
>
> $70 net to me plus shipping
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL
>
>  
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[RBW] Re: Recommendations on a budget 700c wheelset?

[Julian Westerhout]

Only flaw with that plan is the OP's stated desire for a 10 speed or 
greater hub -- not going to find that on a '90s hybrid.   :( 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 


On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 8:40:41 AM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

> Do they have to be new?
> Find a good used late-90s hybrid at your LBS or on Craigslist.  You can 
> probably find one for less than $200.
> But it.  Take the wheels.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommendations on a budget 700c wheelset?

[Julian Westerhout]

Ted, 

Velomine might be a good source -- they have a number of options on their 
site as well as on eBay. 

One that looks to be a bit over $100 with a matching front wheel is this 
one:   https://tinyurl.com/s5rs85ru

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:59:46 PM UTC-5 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:

> Im in need of a “cheap” 700/29er (ISO 622-20 or wider) wheelset as a spare 
> set but I’ve been struggling to find any good second hand wheelsets that 
> meet my needs and it seems most modern wheels in this size are either disc 
> brake only or disc and thu-axle now.
>
> Anyone have suggestions for a 700/29” wheel with an internal width of at 
> least 20mm that is rim brake compatible AND comes in a 10spd+ hub?
>
> I know I can get what I need for I’m Velocity, but I was hoping to not 
> drop that kind of money on this since I’ll just be using them as spares to 
> swap between experimental builds.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Julian Westerhout]

Bill, 

Salmon Koolstop pads stop well, but can be noisy, especially if they hit 
the rim flat or slightly toed out. It is possible/probable that after 5 
months the pads have worn enough to change the way they hit the rim, and 
need to be adjusted a bit to be slightly toe-in. 

Julia Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:50:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Fulford wrote:

> The brakes are cantilever with salmon pads. I assume that the are properly 
> mounted. The squawking began after about five months of riding. In the 
> beginning there was no noise.
>
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:50:09 PM UTC-4 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That noise is typical of a he salmon pads that ship on Paul brakes. 
>> salmon pads stop really well but I’ve had several pair on different bikes 
>> and different brake styles and after a bit they all started to make noise 
>> no matter how I adjusted them. I’ve also found that Paul Motolites in 
>> particular do not like having racks mounted to them. This made any existing 
>> brake noise multiples worse I assume due to the two sides being more rigid 
>> mounted together allowing for different resonance to occur and generate 
>> more noise. This was particularly apparent on my Gus I assume due to its 
>> unique front end geometry.
>>
>> My opinion on the Paul Motolites is mixed. On the one hand, they’re 
>> beautiful and the quick release mechanism is nice compared to typical 
>> v-brakes with the noodle holding it all together. The adjustment mechanism 
>> is also a work of arm and does make adjusting for different when sizes a 
>> bit nicer. However, I’m not sure they’re worth the money purely on the 
>> basis of function. To me they’re like a designer handbag. They make a nice 
>> accessory when paired with other nice accessories and a good outfit they 
>> can be stunning. But at the end of the day, a $5 handbag holds stuff as 
>> well as a $300 handbag. My $30 Shimano Alivio v-brakes stop my Appaloosa 
>> just as well as the $300 Motolites on my Gus. But my Gus is my pretty show 
>> bike that I take out on the town on a Sunny Saturday to get things at the 
>> farmer’s market. My Appaloosa is my daily driver. I lock it up outside of 
>> stores and restaurants and ride it, rain or shine, to work 5 days a week. 
>> It’s still a nice bike but the parts on it are more utilitarian in nature. 
>> The frame is the flashiest piece of kit on the whole bike and I like it 
>> that way.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:24 PM Julian Westerhout  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill, 
>>>
>>> Which brakes are they?  Which pads are you using? Are they properly 
>>> slightly toed in? 
>>>
>>> Photos would help in making a diagnosis -- but I doubt the squawking is 
>>> due to the brakes themselves -- more likely to be pad type and/or setup. 
>>>
>>> Julian Westerhout
>>> Bloomington, IL 
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 7:54:00 PM UTC-5 Bill Fulford wrote:
>>>
>>>> I bought Paul brakes for my Atlantis and initially loved them. Now, 
>>>> however, they squawk like a stuck goose. I’ve cleaned the rims, sanded the 
>>>> pads but with no success. They were installed by a bike shop so I don’t 
>>>> think that’s the problem. It’s embarrassing to ride at times. I’m looking 
>>>> for suggestions to ease the noise. Thanks in advance. Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:58:13 AM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a set of cantilevers and a set of center pulls, both purchased 
>>>>> used off this list, I think.  What I really like about both sets is how 
>>>>> easy it is to disconnect and re-connect the straddle cables making wheel 
>>>>> removal and installation so much easier.  Even though I didn't pay full 
>>>>> retail they were still quite pricey compared to what I had.  I don't 
>>>>> regret 
>>>>> my purchases at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill S
>>>>> San Diego
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 9:29:03 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul brakes are worth it. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you buy, try and decide you don't like them you can sell them for 
>>>>>> close to what you paid!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 12:22:34 PM UTC-5 Jay Riley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS: I'll always keep hydro 

Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Julian Westerhout]

Bill, 

Which brakes are they?  Which pads are you using? Are they properly 
slightly toed in? 

Photos would help in making a diagnosis -- but I doubt the squawking is due 
to the brakes themselves -- more likely to be pad type and/or setup. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 7:54:00 PM UTC-5 Bill Fulford wrote:

> I bought Paul brakes for my Atlantis and initially loved them. Now, 
> however, they squawk like a stuck goose. I’ve cleaned the rims, sanded the 
> pads but with no success. They were installed by a bike shop so I don’t 
> think that’s the problem. It’s embarrassing to ride at times. I’m looking 
> for suggestions to ease the noise. Thanks in advance. Bill
>
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:58:13 AM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote:
>
>> I have a set of cantilevers and a set of center pulls, both purchased 
>> used off this list, I think.  What I really like about both sets is how 
>> easy it is to disconnect and re-connect the straddle cables making wheel 
>> removal and installation so much easier.  Even though I didn't pay full 
>> retail they were still quite pricey compared to what I had.  I don't regret 
>> my purchases at all.
>>
>> Bill S
>> San Diego
>>
>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 9:29:03 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Paul brakes are worth it. 
>>>
>>> If you buy, try and decide you don't like them you can sell them for 
>>> close to what you paid!
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 12:22:34 PM UTC-5 Jay Riley wrote:
>>>
>>>> PS: I'll always keep hydro brakes on the dual-suspension mtn bike.  
>>>> They're cool!  The braking assignment is short, severe braking loads, as 
>>>> opposed to braking loads on a road or touring bike.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jay
>>>>
>>>> Jay Riley, mobile 603-498-5199 <(603)%20498-5199>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:44 PM Jay Riley  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls" has sent me 
>>>>> back to cables and calipers on 2 of my bikes.  Especially if I'm in hilly 
>>>>> and mountainous terrain, especially especially when touring with moderate 
>>>>> loads (35lbs) in that terrain, disc-brake pads wear out way faster than 
>>>>> ol' 
>>>>> fashioned brake pads.  Hydraulic discs are super easy to squeeze and 
>>>>> modulate, and although my thumbs are already arthritic I can still stop 
>>>>> just fine w'cable brakes.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Jay
>>>>>
>>>>> Jay Riley, mobile 603-498-5199 <(603)%20498-5199>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:24 PM Patrick Moore  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, good to know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 6:06 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Klampers are great, the couple hydraulic systems I've tried (stock 
>>>>>>> on new bikes, I don't remember the brands) were marginally greater on 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> road but not worth the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable 
>>>>>>> Pauls. 
>>>>>>> Your results may vary on steep, rocky descents I don't ride. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how the 
>>>>>>>> Klampers perform compared to TRP Hy Rds or to full hydraulics? I was 
>>>>>>>> just 
>>>>>>>> talking to my brother about the Hy Rds and wondering if the Kampers 
>>>>>>>> would 
>>>>>>>> be as powerful and modulate as well without the hydraulic complication.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Klampers have single-side pad actuation, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:36 PM Philip Williamson <
>>>>>>>> philip.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ... I do have a set of NIB Klampers I considered building a bike 
>>>>>>>>> around, but went with yet another ca

Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Julian Westerhout]

The 60 cm SimpleOne in AZ  is being offered by the seller on Craigslist as 
a frame/fork/bb/headset for $500 -- that is indeed a good deal. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 1:15:15 AM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

> Great deal on a 60 SimpleOne in AZ:
>
> [image: 00c0c_iUm87mppNAd_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
>
> Rivendell - SimplOne frame 60cm - bicycle parts - by owner - bike sale - 
> craigslist 
> <https://tucson.craigslist.org/bop/d/tucson-rivendell-simplone-frame-60cm/7669280031.html>
> tucson.craigslist.org 
> <https://tucson.craigslist.org/bop/d/tucson-rivendell-simplone-frame-60cm/7669280031.html>
>
> <https://tucson.craigslist.org/bop/d/tucson-rivendell-simplone-frame-60cm/7669280031.html>
>  
>
> Tempted but too many bikes, too little time.
>
> Hope someone here gets it
>
> Max
>
> On Aug 27, 2023, at 9:21 PM, Matthew Williams  
> wrote:
>
> 
> CUSTOM
> 60cm
> 2500
> Belmont, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/belmont-rivendell-custom-beautiful-60cm/7658939306.html
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[RBW] Re: FS: Naturehike Vik 2 ultralight tent

[Julian Westerhout]

The tent is sold. Thanks to all. 

On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 8:56:41 AM UTC-5 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For Sale: 
>
> NatureHike Vik 2 Ultralight tent. 
>
> Specs at:   https://tinyurl.com/59e42yyh
>
> This is a very roomy one man or snug-ush two man tent that weighs 3pounds. 
> it is single wall lightweight silicone nylon. It has two small gear 
> vestibules. 
>
> I used it for a half dozen nights this summer. I really liked it, but at 
> 6’7” i am a bit too tall — I found myself brushing up against the tent 
> ends. 
>
> It comes with a ground sheet ands is in excellent condition . 
>
> Its retail price is $150, but it can often be found for about $130 online. 
> I’d like $75 plus shipping for this tent. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, Il 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Russ Roca/Path Less Pedaled reflects on his Sam Hillborne

[Julian Westerhout]

Russ Roca has a new video up about his Sam Hillborne --  explaining why it 
is the one bike he cannot see ever selling. 

IMHO he does a really good job of explaining the appeal of the Rivendell 
line. I think it is worth watching. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6YG_Mk3zJ4

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Getting in over my head

[Julian Westerhout]

Leah, 

Riding position and bike weight (and wheel weight) are a big part of it -- 
a lot less of a sail at speed compared to your Platypus.  Lots of 
relatively cheap "classic"  vintage 1980s-1990s steel bikes with 
performance like the Roadeo out there -- perhaps look for one near you to 
try with minimal $$ -- or put the word out in the club -- likely a few 
hanging in garages of your carbon-riding compatriots... 


Julian 

On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:34:12 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Grant would have to make a mixte version! I have wondered about it, 
> Julian. How much faster would a Roadeo be, I wonder? And what makes it so?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 15, 2023, at 9:30 PM, Julian Westerhout  wrote:
>
> Leah, 
>
>
> Perhaps a Roadeo is in your future   ;)
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:13:53 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> I just want to talk bikes. I don’t have anything to post FS or WTB…I just 
>> want to tell Riv people this dumb story that happened this morning. You can 
>> laugh or you can roll your eyes, or you can chime in with your own dumb 
>> story of getting in over your own dumb heads.
>>
>> This is my second season of club riding. I was new to it last year, and 
>> now that our weather is finally cooperating, I’m back.
>>
>> Last week, our bike club started a new ride. It would be on Monday 
>> mornings and only 5 miles from my house. The pace was to be 
>> “conversational” which I took to mean ‘riding at a pace you can still have 
>> a conversation at.’ (I now know that could not be what it meant.) The route 
>> would be new. The details were fuzzy - word was, the ride leader would make 
>> decisions about pace and miles once people arrived. Now, I know Platypuses 
>> are not going to fare well in the 18-21 mph crowd, but I knew that two 
>> women upwards of 70 did this ride last week. I figured I’d be fine.
>>
>> I was the second to arrive; the first being the president of our bike 
>> club. He was pulling his gravel bike out of his truck. He’s a roadie and he 
>> leads the 17-18 mph groups. Hmmm.  We’re friendly; I’m glad to know one 
>> person on the ride, but if he is here, how fast are we going? Two more 
>> people arrive; both men, roadies, and they pull jet-black, lethal-looking, 
>> feather-light carbon bikes from their vehicles. They are strangers to me.
>>
>> Ok, well, it’s going to be fine. Who cares if you’re the only woman. So 
>> what if you’re wearing your pink pants. Clutching the wide, sweepy bars of 
>> your sparkly pink Platypus. Their eyes are hidden behind their Oakleys, and 
>> I imagine what they are thinking - “She cannot be serious.” 
>>
>> Behind my Oakleys, I am thinking, “I cannot be serious.” 
>>
>> The three of them begin to discuss the route and the pace. The ride 
>> leader says, “The route is hilly. Let’s keep a 17 mph pace in the flats.” 
>> As soon as I hear that the route is hilly, I want OUT. I have always kept 
>> up in my club rides, but hills are the one thing that the Platypus does not 
>> do well. Oh, a Platypus can climb, but don’t ask it to do it at high 
>> speeds. I use momentum to get me uphill. To compensate, I always shoot 
>> ahead of the group, but I slow on the incline and those carbon bikes are 
>> gaining on me near the top. About the time they catch me, I’m back up to 
>> speed and am innocent of causing anyone to slow down, but that extra effort 
>> is the price I pay. The game is: Never Make Them Slow Down For You Even If 
>> You Have A Heart Attack. 
>>
>> My mind is searching for a way out. I don’t have a good feeling about 
>> this. It’s early in the season. Maybe if I was in tip top, but today? But 
>> then came introductions. J, the president says, “This is Leah. She’s fine. 
>> She can keep up with us.” Liar, I think.
>>
>> And with that, we are off.
>>
>> We hit a hill right out the gate. I’m toward the back because I don’t 
>> know the route. They are calmly approaching that hill, not changing speed. 
>> I’m confused. They’re slowing me up; it’s too late for me to get around 
>> them. I will not have the burst of speed I need to start that hill. And 
>> worse, I’m in too high of a gear. I have friction shifting - and now I’m 
>> committed. I am desperate not to look like a fool. I am standing on my 
>> pedals, wishing for the first time in my life that I am 10 pounds heavier. 
>> All my weight on the left pedal. All my weight on the right pedal. Tossing 
>> the bike side to side. Panting. Heart wildly beating

[RBW] Re: Getting in over my head

[Julian Westerhout]

Leah, 

In answer to your question, yes, indeed.  The most similar was about 16 
years ago -- new to town, showed up to a club "ice cream" ride -- to me 
that meant casual ride with a stop for ice cream -- but at the time that 
particular ride was a fast paced 15 miles out to eat ice cream, then 15 
miles back as fast as you could go. I did not know the roads, and had not 
ridden much that year (move, new job, new-to-us fixer-upper house, etc.) -- 
it was a disaster. Luckily a very nice guy stayed back and rode with me -- 
and told me about the "mellow rides"   the club also did, which were grand 
social rides of the type I was looking for that year. 

Still ride with the club -- I'm a bit faster,  and there are no real 
pseudo-racers left in the club -- that type of rider no longer rides with 
the club, but on go-fast rides sponsored by a local shop. 

It's all good -- fun to persevere as best you can (which in your case 
sounds pretty darn well) and tell the stories


Julian Westerhout




On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:30:23 PM UTC-5 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> Leah, 
>
> Perhaps a Roadeo is in your future   ;)
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:13:53 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> I just want to talk bikes. I don’t have anything to post FS or WTB…I just 
>> want to tell Riv people this dumb story that happened this morning. You can 
>> laugh or you can roll your eyes, or you can chime in with your own dumb 
>> story of getting in over your own dumb heads.
>>
>> This is my second season of club riding. I was new to it last year, and 
>> now that our weather is finally cooperating, I’m back.
>>
>> Last week, our bike club started a new ride. It would be on Monday 
>> mornings and only 5 miles from my house. The pace was to be 
>> “conversational” which I took to mean ‘riding at a pace you can still have 
>> a conversation at.’ (I now know that could not be what it meant.) The route 
>> would be new. The details were fuzzy - word was, the ride leader would make 
>> decisions about pace and miles once people arrived. Now, I know Platypuses 
>> are not going to fare well in the 18-21 mph crowd, but I knew that two 
>> women upwards of 70 did this ride last week. I figured I’d be fine.
>>
>> I was the second to arrive; the first being the president of our bike 
>> club. He was pulling his gravel bike out of his truck. He’s a roadie and he 
>> leads the 17-18 mph groups. Hmmm.  We’re friendly; I’m glad to know one 
>> person on the ride, but if he is here, how fast are we going? Two more 
>> people arrive; both men, roadies, and they pull jet-black, lethal-looking, 
>> feather-light carbon bikes from their vehicles. They are strangers to me.
>>
>> Ok, well, it’s going to be fine. Who cares if you’re the only woman. So 
>> what if you’re wearing your pink pants. Clutching the wide, sweepy bars of 
>> your sparkly pink Platypus. Their eyes are hidden behind their Oakleys, and 
>> I imagine what they are thinking - “She cannot be serious.” 
>>
>> Behind my Oakleys, I am thinking, “I cannot be serious.” 
>>
>> The three of them begin to discuss the route and the pace. The ride 
>> leader says, “The route is hilly. Let’s keep a 17 mph pace in the flats.” 
>> As soon as I hear that the route is hilly, I want OUT. I have always kept 
>> up in my club rides, but hills are the one thing that the Platypus does not 
>> do well. Oh, a Platypus can climb, but don’t ask it to do it at high 
>> speeds. I use momentum to get me uphill. To compensate, I always shoot 
>> ahead of the group, but I slow on the incline and those carbon bikes are 
>> gaining on me near the top. About the time they catch me, I’m back up to 
>> speed and am innocent of causing anyone to slow down, but that extra effort 
>> is the price I pay. The game is: Never Make Them Slow Down For You Even If 
>> You Have A Heart Attack. 
>>
>> My mind is searching for a way out. I don’t have a good feeling about 
>> this. It’s early in the season. Maybe if I was in tip top, but today? But 
>> then came introductions. J, the president says, “This is Leah. She’s fine. 
>> She can keep up with us.” Liar, I think.
>>
>> And with that, we are off.
>>
>> We hit a hill right out the gate. I’m toward the back because I don’t 
>> know the route. They are calmly approaching that hill, not changing speed. 
>> I’m confused. They’re slowing me up; it’s too late for me to get around 
>> them. I will not have the burst of speed I need to start that hill. And 
>> worse, I’m in too high of a gear. I have friction shifting - and now I’m 

[RBW] Re: Getting in over my head

[Julian Westerhout]

Leah, 

Perhaps a Roadeo is in your future   ;)

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 8:13:53 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> I just want to talk bikes. I don’t have anything to post FS or WTB…I just 
> want to tell Riv people this dumb story that happened this morning. You can 
> laugh or you can roll your eyes, or you can chime in with your own dumb 
> story of getting in over your own dumb heads.
>
> This is my second season of club riding. I was new to it last year, and 
> now that our weather is finally cooperating, I’m back.
>
> Last week, our bike club started a new ride. It would be on Monday 
> mornings and only 5 miles from my house. The pace was to be 
> “conversational” which I took to mean ‘riding at a pace you can still have 
> a conversation at.’ (I now know that could not be what it meant.) The route 
> would be new. The details were fuzzy - word was, the ride leader would make 
> decisions about pace and miles once people arrived. Now, I know Platypuses 
> are not going to fare well in the 18-21 mph crowd, but I knew that two 
> women upwards of 70 did this ride last week. I figured I’d be fine.
>
> I was the second to arrive; the first being the president of our bike 
> club. He was pulling his gravel bike out of his truck. He’s a roadie and he 
> leads the 17-18 mph groups. Hmmm.  We’re friendly; I’m glad to know one 
> person on the ride, but if he is here, how fast are we going? Two more 
> people arrive; both men, roadies, and they pull jet-black, lethal-looking, 
> feather-light carbon bikes from their vehicles. They are strangers to me.
>
> Ok, well, it’s going to be fine. Who cares if you’re the only woman. So 
> what if you’re wearing your pink pants. Clutching the wide, sweepy bars of 
> your sparkly pink Platypus. Their eyes are hidden behind their Oakleys, and 
> I imagine what they are thinking - “She cannot be serious.” 
>
> Behind my Oakleys, I am thinking, “I cannot be serious.” 
>
> The three of them begin to discuss the route and the pace. The ride leader 
> says, “The route is hilly. Let’s keep a 17 mph pace in the flats.” As soon 
> as I hear that the route is hilly, I want OUT. I have always kept up in my 
> club rides, but hills are the one thing that the Platypus does not do well. 
> Oh, a Platypus can climb, but don’t ask it to do it at high speeds. I use 
> momentum to get me uphill. To compensate, I always shoot ahead of the 
> group, but I slow on the incline and those carbon bikes are gaining on me 
> near the top. About the time they catch me, I’m back up to speed and am 
> innocent of causing anyone to slow down, but that extra effort is the price 
> I pay. The game is: Never Make Them Slow Down For You Even If You Have A 
> Heart Attack. 
>
> My mind is searching for a way out. I don’t have a good feeling about 
> this. It’s early in the season. Maybe if I was in tip top, but today? But 
> then came introductions. J, the president says, “This is Leah. She’s fine. 
> She can keep up with us.” Liar, I think.
>
> And with that, we are off.
>
> We hit a hill right out the gate. I’m toward the back because I don’t know 
> the route. They are calmly approaching that hill, not changing speed. I’m 
> confused. They’re slowing me up; it’s too late for me to get around them. I 
> will not have the burst of speed I need to start that hill. And worse, I’m 
> in too high of a gear. I have friction shifting - and now I’m committed. I 
> am desperate not to look like a fool. I am standing on my pedals, wishing 
> for the first time in my life that I am 10 pounds heavier. All my weight on 
> the left pedal. All my weight on the right pedal. Tossing the bike side to 
> side. Panting. Heart wildly beating. Wishing I was somewhere else. I don’t 
> know if I can do this, and we have just begun. And the two guys in front 
> are now sailing uphill and creating a wide chasm between us. This is the 
> worst first impression. But looking behind me, one of them is having a 
> harder time with that hill than me. So, at least I’m not LAST. 
>
> The leaders soft pedal and we regroup. New strategy. Way lower gears on 
> the uphill. Pedal like a rabid animal on the downhill. Announce I’m going 
> around them to get enough speed/momentum.
>
> This works better. “Hey, Leah’s getting a better workout than us!” they 
> joke. “She’s pedaling downhill AND uphill!” Yes, she is, and she’s 
> exhausted. I push something on my Apple Watch and screw up the metrics. I 
> look to J - how many miles have we gone, I ask. 
>
> “11.” 
>
> This is a 25 mile ride. I’m going to die, right here on my Platypus. 
>
> The flats have them screaming down the road. They want to go fast, so do 
> I. It’s just that it costs m

Re: [RBW] Re: Hobson Zingo adjustable lockring wrench for **$7.00**??

[Julian Westerhout]

Smitty, 

I have ordered and used several of BearingProTools' bearing pullers.  I 
found them to be very well made and reasonably priced. Although I do not 
have their headset press, I would not hesitate to order it if I needed one. 

Julian Westerhout
Blooomngton, IL 

On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 9:01:53 AM UTC-5 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> While on the subject of headset presses, I'm in the market for one myself. 
> I came across these guys - really affordable tools, on par with the no-name 
> brands from Amazon and eBay but it seems like they make their own tools and 
> will do custom jobs for little or no money. Shipping was only $15 to my 
> house in east coast USA too. Anyone got any reviews of these tools? 
> https://www.bearingprotools.com/products/headset-cup-press
>
> Smitty in DC
>
> On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 4:08:51 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Kai, 
>>
>> Yep, those of us drinking in the rarified high-altitude air on 68 cm 
>> frames do have that issue with headset presses -- I bought the lovely Stein 
>> for Riv press that they offered a few years back (a different part of the 
>> tool pool from H-Z!)  knowing i had to but a new piece of e threaded rod to 
>> fit my multiple taaa  head tubes. I think that Riv actually offered a 
>> long threaded rod optio for those at some point before they disappeared.   
>>
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, Il 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 12:19:08 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>>
>>> My Hobson Zingo headset press is an inch too short for my Rivendell 
>>> bicycle frames! And is no longer available from Riv, maybe for this reason?
>>> Certainly an outlier’s problem, but one Julian might share. Still worth 
>>> it even having to swap the threaded rod for a 14”er, as the press plates 
>>> are pretty cool…
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 6:38:05 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I disagree with Garth, 
>>>
>>> I also bought one (to use as a S coupler wrench as well as a BB 
>>> lockring wrench) -- like the entire H-Z tool line it is not fancy  (you'll 
>>> not mistake it for something from https://www.abbeybiketools.com/ ), 
>>> but it is decently made, and works well. I's say to me is is worth at least 
>>> $15 if not a couple of dollars more. If you're running a professional 
>>> vintage bike repair shop and use it several times a day you might want 
>>> something more robust, but for the other 99.97657% of us, this will do 
>>> the trick, and I'm very glad Rivendell has made it available. 
>>>
>>> Julian Westerhout
>>> Bloomington, IL 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 3:47:58 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>> This reminds of Shawshank Redemption movie where Andy asks Red to get 
>>> him a rock hammer that sells for (at the time) . $7. 
>>>
>>> When Red inquires as to how Andy is going to use it, he replies "you'll 
>>> understand when you see the rock hammer". 
>>>
>>> With the HZ lockring tool, you'll understand why it's $7 when you see it 
>>> ;-) .  
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hobson Zingo adjustable lockring wrench for **$7.00**??

[Julian Westerhout]

Kai, 

Yep, those of us drinking in the rarified high-altitude air on 68 cm frames 
do have that issue with headset presses -- I bought the lovely Stein for 
Riv press that they offered a few years back (a different part of the tool 
pool from H-Z!)  knowing i had to but a new piece of e threaded rod to fit 
my multiple taaa  head tubes. I think that Riv actually offered a long 
threaded rod optio for those at some point before they disappeared.   


Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, Il 




On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 12:19:08 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> My Hobson Zingo headset press is an inch too short for my Rivendell 
> bicycle frames! And is no longer available from Riv, maybe for this reason?
> Certainly an outlier’s problem, but one Julian might share. Still worth it 
> even having to swap the threaded rod for a 14”er, as the press plates are 
> pretty cool…
> -Kai
>
>
> On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 6:38:05 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I disagree with Garth, 
>
> I also bought one (to use as a S coupler wrench as well as a BB lockring 
> wrench) -- like the entire H-Z tool line it is not fancy  (you'll not 
> mistake it for something from https://www.abbeybiketools.com/ ), but it 
> is decently made, and works well. I's say to me is is worth at least $15 if 
> not a couple of dollars more. If you're running a professional vintage bike 
> repair shop and use it several times a day you might want something more 
> robust, but for the other 99.97657% of us, this will do the trick, and 
> I'm very glad Rivendell has made it available. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 3:47:58 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
> This reminds of Shawshank Redemption movie where Andy asks Red to get him 
> a rock hammer that sells for (at the time) . $7. 
>
> When Red inquires as to how Andy is going to use it, he replies "you'll 
> understand when you see the rock hammer". 
>
> With the HZ lockring tool, you'll understand why it's $7 when you see it 
> ;-) .  
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hobson Zingo adjustable lockring wrench for **$7.00**??

[Julian Westerhout]

I disagree with Garth, 

I also bought one (to use as a S coupler wrench as well as a BB lockring 
wrench) -- like the entire H-Z tool line it is not fancy  (you'll not 
mistake it for something from https://www.abbeybiketools.com/ ), but it is 
decently made, and works well. I's say to me is is worth at least $15 if 
not a couple of dollars more. If you're running a professional vintage bike 
repair shop and use it several times a day you might want something more 
robust, but for the other 99.97657% of us, this will do the trick, and 
I'm very glad Rivendell has made it available. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 3:47:58 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> This reminds of Shawshank Redemption movie where Andy asks Red to get him 
> a rock hammer that sells for (at the time) . $7. 
>
> When Red inquires as to how Andy is going to use it, he replies "you'll 
> understand when you see the rock hammer". 
>
> With the HZ lockring tool, you'll understand why it's $7 when you see it 
> ;-) .  
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Atlantis 2 sizing ? Inquiring about a local sale

[Julian Westerhout]

Eliot, 

If it is local to you and that's near your preferred size go take a look -- 
 many people do not accurately measure bike frames when selling them. The 
joy of a local sale is that you can go look at it ride, it, examine it, 
and, if you want, measure it yourself -- all of which will tell you much 
more than we folks on the internet without photos or knowledge of the bike 
could ever do!:) 

Julian "Happy Toyo Atlantis owner" Westerhout
Bloomington, Il 



On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 12:07:29 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> There is an Atlantis 2 for sale nearby. They are reporting a 56cm ST/57cm 
> TT with 700c wheels and 84cm standover. 
>
> This sizing seems off to me for a 700c. Anyone have any insight ? Is this 
> a custom?
>
> Eliot
>

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[RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Julian Westerhout]

Leah, 

That video was great!   I laughed, and cheered!:) 

I'm 6'7" tall and weigh between 230 and 260 pounds (depending upon the 
season) and am both amused and annoyed at the "how much does that bike 
weigh?" and "How can you ride such a heavy bike?" comments I get when I 
show up for a club ride on one of my Rivs or other steel bikes (I own no 
carbon). My response is "Who cares? With me on it your carbon bike might 
weigh 1 to 2% less than me on my bike -- and since this is a B-C club 
(14-16 mph) ride and not the Tour de France  it makes no appreciable 
difference to my riding results, but to me the comfort of my bike is well 
worth a possible few seconds over 50 miles."   If it is someone I don't 
know I then make an effort to cruise by on an uphill while trying to look 
like I'm extending little effort. 

I also get all the style points. Rode Ragbrai last year with a good friend 
-- he rides carbon -- and every day lots of folks complimented my Atlantis, 
many wanting photos. On the last day he remarked that no one ever said 
anything about his bike, unlike me and the others on nice steel bikes 
scattered among the thousands of lookalike carbon bikes. 

I say, "Just Ride!" 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington IL 





On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 3:38:57 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I had to respond to you in my favorite medium, Patrick. Video. I’ll 
> include the link below, since the file is too big. It’s on my Instagram, 
> which I’ve set to public for now, but hurry and watch before I switch it 
> back to private.
>
> I am making it my new favorite thing to take these classy Rivendells and 
> set them to edgy, tacky hit music in Reels. The purists will ask for the 
> ban hammer. The rest of you will hopefully laugh. This video is entirely in 
> response to these silly threads.
> Leah
> https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrohxSlgzAY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:05:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> 2016 Matthews "road bike for dirt" at 31.99 lb with full generous kit in 
>> frame bag, which also contains the capacitor and switching box for the 
>> K-Lite. 
>>
>> Dynamo lighting f and r, fenders of 2X thicker than your Honjos, with 2X 
>> thicker struts, rear rack, cages, and pedals. Not bad at all considering 
>> that the bag with its contents probably weighs close to 4 lb. 
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pamela Murray: Bike Hero

[Julian Westerhout]

What a great message and a great video. Well done! 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 10:52:51 AM UTC-5 JAS wrote:

> Pam, you are an inspiration!  Thank you for all the encouragement and 
> instruction for riders of all abilities.  I thoroughly enjoyed the video 
> and your message.  
>
> Leah, thank you for sharing the video.
>
> --Joyce
>
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:21:01 AM UTC-7 Stephanie A. wrote:
>
>> Pam! What wonderful work you do! So many people have understandable fears 
>> associated with riding, and you're really doing the work of helping to 
>> reduce those and bring people into riding.
>> On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 9:26:53 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Kudos to Pam! +1 that errand riding with a goal in mind, even if this 
>>> means extending a 1 mile shopping rt into a 20 mile loop, is the best 
>>> riding, IMO.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 12:05 PM Tom Goodmann  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is further recent acknowledgment of Pam: 
>>>> https://www.planetbike.com/blog/meet-our-winter-super-commuter-pamela-murray-/
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: a bunch of bags

[Julian Westerhout]

All sold. Thanks! 

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 4:44:31 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> Update below with what's still available -- and with price drops!   
> Thanks! 
>
>
> For sale are a bunch of bags — I seem to keep accumulating bags, and it is 
> again time for a purge. 
>
> All prices do not include shipping. 
>
> Photos can be seen at   https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAtseT
>
> Acorn Medium Rando Bag —brown — like new, older style rack attachment — 
> see photos.  was $125, *NOW $100*
>
> Ortlieb medium saddlebag — tiny bit of dirt, but very light use, with 
> mount and instructions. was $40. *NOW $30*
>
> Carradice saddlebag — green — not sure of model. Almost new  was $70, *NOW 
> $55*
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 5:04:23 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
>> Update below with what is still available. thanks!  
>>
>>
>> For sale are a bunch of bags — I seem to keep accumulating bags, and it 
>> is again time for a purge. 
>>
>> All prices do not include shipping. 
>>
>> Photos can be seen at   https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAtseT
>>
>> Acorn Medium Rando Bag —brown — like new, older style rack attachment — 
>> see photos.  $125
>>
>> Acorn large saddlebag — brown — in very good condition  $85
>>
>> Ortlieb medium saddlebag — tiny bit of dirt, but very light use, with 
>> mount and instructions. $40
>>
>> Carradice saddlebag — green — not sure of model. Almost new  $70
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 3:31:45 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For sale are a bunch of bags — I seem to keep accumulating bags, and it 
>>> is again time for a purge. 
>>>
>>> All prices do not include shipping. 
>>>
>>> Photos can be seen at   https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAtseT
>>>
>>>
>>> Swift Motherloaf basket Bag — brand new with tags — Black — description 
>>> here https://builtbyswift.com/shop/motherloaf-basket-bag/$130
>>>
>>>
>>> Acorn Medium Rando Bag —brown — like new, older style rack attachment — 
>>> see photos.  $125
>>>
>>> Acorn large saddlebag — brown — in very good condition  $85
>>>
>>> Guu Watanabe frame bag — tan — this is a slim bag designed to fit inside 
>>> a frame or on the seat post of a folding bike — light use, impeccable 
>>> workmanship   $90 
>>>
>>> Ortlieb medium saddlebag — tiny bit of dirt, but very light use, with 
>>> mount and instructions. $40
>>>
>>> Carradice saddlebag — green — not sure of model. Almost new  $70
>>>
>>> Carradice saddlebag — black, not sure of model (barley?) — fair amount 
>>> of use — lots of life left — the straps to attach to saddle and seat post 
>>> seem to have gone walkabout, so not included unless you get lucky and I 
>>> find them!   :) $25
>>>
>>>
>>> Julian Westerhout
>>> Bloomington, IL 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: a bunch of bags

[Julian Westerhout]

Update below with what's still available -- and with price drops!   Thanks! 


For sale are a bunch of bags — I seem to keep accumulating bags, and it is 
again time for a purge. 

All prices do not include shipping. 

Photos can be seen at   https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAtseT

Acorn Medium Rando Bag —brown — like new, older style rack attachment — see 
photos.  was $125, *NOW $100*

Ortlieb medium saddlebag — tiny bit of dirt, but very light use, with mount 
and instructions. was $40. *NOW $30*

Carradice saddlebag — green — not sure of model. Almost new  was $70, *NOW 
$55*

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 5:04:23 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> Update below with what is still available. thanks!  
>
>
> For sale are a bunch of bags — I seem to keep accumulating bags, and it is 
> again time for a purge. 
>
> All prices do not include shipping. 
>
> Photos can be seen at   https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAtseT
>
> Acorn Medium Rando Bag —brown — like new, older style rack attachment — 
> see photos.  $125
>
> Acorn large saddlebag — brown — in very good condition  $85
>
> Ortlieb medium saddlebag — tiny bit of dirt, but very light use, with 
> mount and instructions. $40
>
> Carradice saddlebag — green — not sure of model. Almost new  $70
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 3:31:45 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
>> For sale are a bunch of bags — I seem to keep accumulating bags, and it 
>> is again time for a purge. 
>>
>> All prices do not include shipping. 
>>
>> Photos can be seen at   https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAtseT
>>
>>
>> Swift Motherloaf basket Bag — brand new with tags — Black — description 
>> here https://builtbyswift.com/shop/motherloaf-basket-bag/$130
>>
>>
>> Acorn Medium Rando Bag —brown — like new, older style rack attachment — 
>> see photos.  $125
>>
>> Acorn large saddlebag — brown — in very good condition  $85
>>
>> Guu Watanabe frame bag — tan — this is a slim bag designed to fit inside 
>> a frame or on the seat post of a folding bike — light use, impeccable 
>> workmanship   $90 
>>
>> Ortlieb medium saddlebag — tiny bit of dirt, but very light use, with 
>> mount and instructions. $40
>>
>> Carradice saddlebag — green — not sure of model. Almost new  $70
>>
>> Carradice saddlebag — black, not sure of model (barley?) — fair amount of 
>> use — lots of life left — the straps to attach to saddle and seat post seem 
>> to have gone walkabout, so not included unless you get lucky and I find 
>> them!   :) $25
>>
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: a bunch of bags

[Julian Westerhout]

Update below with what is still available. thanks!  


For sale are a bunch of bags — I seem to keep accumulating bags, and it is 
again time for a purge. 

All prices do not include shipping. 

Photos can be seen at   https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAtseT

Acorn Medium Rando Bag —brown — like new, older style rack attachment — see 
photos.  $125

Acorn large saddlebag — brown — in very good condition  $85

Ortlieb medium saddlebag — tiny bit of dirt, but very light use, with mount 
and instructions. $40

Carradice saddlebag — green — not sure of model. Almost new  $70

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 3:31:45 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For sale are a bunch of bags — I seem to keep accumulating bags, and it is 
> again time for a purge. 
>
> All prices do not include shipping. 
>
> Photos can be seen at   https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAtseT
>
>
> Swift Motherloaf basket Bag — brand new with tags — Black — description 
> here https://builtbyswift.com/shop/motherloaf-basket-bag/$130
>
>
> Acorn Medium Rando Bag —brown — like new, older style rack attachment — 
> see photos.  $125
>
> Acorn large saddlebag — brown — in very good condition  $85
>
> Guu Watanabe frame bag — tan — this is a slim bag designed to fit inside a 
> frame or on the seat post of a folding bike — light use, impeccable 
> workmanship   $90 
>
> Ortlieb medium saddlebag — tiny bit of dirt, but very light use, with 
> mount and instructions. $40
>
> Carradice saddlebag — green — not sure of model. Almost new  $70
>
> Carradice saddlebag — black, not sure of model (barley?) — fair amount of 
> use — lots of life left — the straps to attach to saddle and seat post seem 
> to have gone walkabout, so not included unless you get lucky and I find 
> them!   :) $25
>
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: a bunch of bags

[Julian Westerhout]

For sale are a bunch of bags — I seem to keep accumulating bags, and it is 
again time for a purge. 

All prices do not include shipping. 

Photos can be seen at   https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAtseT


Swift Motherloaf basket Bag — brand new with tags — Black — description 
here https://builtbyswift.com/shop/motherloaf-basket-bag/$130


Acorn Medium Rando Bag —brown — like new, older style rack attachment — see 
photos.  $125

Acorn large saddlebag — brown — in very good condition  $85

Guu Watanabe frame bag — tan — this is a slim bag designed to fit inside a 
frame or on the seat post of a folding bike — light use, impeccable 
workmanship   $90 

Ortlieb medium saddlebag — tiny bit of dirt, but very light use, with mount 
and instructions. $40

Carradice saddlebag — green — not sure of model. Almost new  $70

Carradice saddlebag — black, not sure of model (barley?) — fair amount of 
use — lots of life left — the straps to attach to saddle and seat post seem 
to have gone walkabout, so not included unless you get lucky and I find 
them!   :) $25


Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Two Rivenell Anoraks in XXL

[Julian Westerhout]

Both now sold. Thanks all. 

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 6:41:36 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> Orange anorak has sold, blue still available. 
>
> thanks, 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 4:24:00 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
>> For sale are two effectively unused Rivendell MUSA windshell anoraks in 
>> size XXL -- one orange, one blue. 
>>
>> $30 each shipped w/in CONUS or both for $50 shipped w/in CONUS.  Paypal 
>> f preferred. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Two Rivenell Anoraks in XXL

[Julian Westerhout]

Orange anorak has sold, blue still available. 

thanks, 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 4:24:00 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For sale are two effectively unused Rivendell MUSA windshell anoraks in 
> size XXL -- one orange, one blue. 
>
> $30 each shipped w/in CONUS or both for $50 shipped w/in CONUS.  Paypal 
> f preferred. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

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Re: [RBW] ISO: Missing Link wheel building book

[Julian Westerhout]

Kim, 

>From the terms and conditions of the pirated 5th edition you linked to: 

"This book required much work and expertise but it's not expensive. If you 
are reading a copy that you obtained without paying then please go to 
www.wheelpro.uk and make a purchase and obtain the most up to date version" 


The 7th edition (2 newer than the pirated version) is 9 British pounds, or 
at the current exchange rate, $10.93, which I suspect for most of us on 
this list is not a substantial burden. Should anyone find the book useful 
I'd suggest that they go ahead and purchase it. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:03:14 PM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I found the book online for free here:
>
>
> https://github.com/ontime/bike/blob/master/Roger-Musson---The-Professional-Guide-to-Wheelbuilding.pdf
> just keep clicking on "SHOW MORE". 
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> Grateful for the tip. I'll check it out.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 04:23:04 PM MST, David Person <
>> cycli...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> I am unfamiliar with this publication and don't mean to hijack your post, 
>> but when I took up wheel building two years ago I purchased a copy of Roger 
>> Munson's "Professional Guide to Wheel Building" and it was the best $12 
>> I've ever spent.  The book is so well written and laid out that it gave me 
>> confidence that I could successfully build a set of wheels.  I've since 
>> built 7 pairs.  The book is not only a great resource, I found it an 
>> enjoyable read.  I've got copies of other books on wheel building, 
>> including the classic "The Bicycle Wheel" by Jobst Brandt.  None 'spoke' to 
>> me like the Munson book (yeah, pun intended).  I can't speak highly enough 
>> about it.  I've go no financial ties to Roger or his book, I'm just not 
>> sure I would have take the plunge into wheel building had I not read it.
>>
>> https://www.wheelpro.co.uk/wheelbuilding/book.php
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 12:58:02 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>>
>> Oooo. I'd sure like same!
>>
>> Scott
>>
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>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 1:43 PM, Slin
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was just chatting with Rich Lesnik and he recommended a wheel building 
>> book/pamphlet from the Missing Link (sad hearing that shop is closing, btw).
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone had a copy I could buy or know if there are 
>> scans of it somewhere.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Slin
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Re: [RBW] Thanksgiving Morning Clem crash

[Julian Westerhout]

Jim, 

I'm sorry to hear about your crash and I hope that you heal well and 
quickly. 

I'm also tall - ride a 65 cm Clem and 66-68 cm road bikes. What bars do you 
have on the Clem now? I ride a 65 Clem with Chocomoose, they feel better 
than the Bosco to me, but still are quite upright. I'm not so sure that 
putting drops on the Clem will do that much in changing the center of 
gravity unless you plan on making the bars overall a lot lower than the 
saddle and always riding in the drops, and even then it's not going to make 
that much of a difference. How much do you think drops will lower your COG? 
maybe 6" or a foot? Will that make a real difference in a crash like that? 
I'm not sure it would. 

Had it rained a fair amount in the days prior to your ride and crash? If 
not, there might have been more oil on the road, making it slippery. Texas 
rain is, I'm guessing, not quite the same as western Oregon, 
condition-wise. In the case of your crash, I'm not sure that drops would 
make much difference in breaking a fibula or not -- after all, you can't 
get much lower than that on the leg without breaking your foot, so the bar 
height likely did not play a major role if at all. 

In my experience getting back on the bike once healed and overcoming 
stiffness caused by excessive caution (paired with as sensible level of 
caution, still!) is the answer to post-crash jitters. 

All the best, 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 






On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 4:28:31 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oh dang - so sorry for you. Sounds like you are on the road to recovery so 
> that’s what counts. But, why do you think this happened? Just due to the 
> wet pavement?
> Heal well.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 15, 2022, at 5:09 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Well we had a warm rainy Thanksgiving morning here in the greater Austin 
> area.  I thought it might be a good thing to go ride around for an hour or 
> so to try to burn a few calories before consuming several thousand and of 
> course as always for enjoyment.   Being a native (Western) Oregonian the 
> rain is rarely a problem for me so off I went.
>
> Well my ride came to an unfortunate end after about 5 miles exiting a 
> traffic circle.  I was taking a right to exit when the bike went right out 
> from under me as fast as I can ever remember one doing so.  I never jerked 
> the handlebars or anything, it was just the same smooth steady motion that 
> I have used 20 or 30 times before on this same traffic circle.  But this 
> time I was down on the ground in a flash.
>
> Being that my Clem is in stock configuration and is a 65, I had a fair 
> distance to fall.  Unfortunately I broke my fibia and the fracture extends 
> to the bottom of my knee joint.  I won't be needing surgery but I cannot 
> put any weight on it for 6 weeks minimum.  We'll see what the orthopedic 
> surgeon says after that.
>
> The net effect of all this is that I'm thinking of putting drops on my 
> Clem when I get back to riding again.  I know it isn't how Grant intended 
> it, but the extremely upright position of the Clem now has me thinking 
> maybe it's not so good to be so high in the air if I have another fall at 
> some point.  I know this is driven by fear, but, I've often thought of 
> "dropping my Clem" in the past and this may just be the push I need in 
> order to do it.
>
> I know this is the opposite of what people in their 50s are usually doing 
> but I am very comfortable riding drops and many days I will take my 650B 
> converted Road Standard for just that reason.  on this particular day I 
> took the Clem because I didn't want some rain-loosened sharp rock to 
> puncture the somewhat fragile Compass tires on my Road Standard.  
>
> So anyway.
> Prove me wrong!
> Drops for Clem 2022!
>
> -Jim
> austin suburbs, tx
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Re: [RBW] FS: 1985 Ritchey Ascent (XXL/23”) – $1300

[Julian Westerhout]

Doh!   Sorry -- my first response was pre-coffee -- yes, the price is 
listed. Sorry for missing it, Luke   :) 

On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 6:08:13 AM UTC-6 Eric Daume wrote:

> It’s in the title, $1300. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 8, 2022, Julian Westerhout  
> wrote:
>
>> Luke, 
>>
>> You forgot to list your asking price. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>> On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 7:02:10 PM UTC-6 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> I’m moving along my vintage Ritchey mountain bike as I’m just not riding 
>>> it all that much (my Riv’s just too much fun!).
>>>
>>> Made by Toyo for Ritchey, almost all of this is first gen Shimano XT 
>>> (Deer Head) along with some super rare high flange black XT hubs. The rear 
>>> brake’s a Suntour roller cam u-brake. The current tires (not pictured here) 
>>> are NOS Tioga Psycho II tires from the early 90s and shred super hard. 
>>> Superlative handling that’s very zippy and fun. Full hand brake levers from 
>>> Suntour, a worn in Brooks B17 saddle, nifty olive paint job, 45-36-24 
>>> chainrings, and a cute lil’ Velo Orange bell top it all off. Feel free to 
>>> ask any questions. I’m open to *reasonable* offers and also wish to 
>>> sell this locally (greater Bay Area).
>>>
>>> See here for some backstory: 
>>> https://theradavist.com/ritchey-ascent-review/
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 1985 Ritchey Ascent (XXL/23”) – $1300

[Julian Westerhout]

Luke, 

You forgot to list your asking price. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 7:02:10 PM UTC-6 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> I’m moving along my vintage Ritchey mountain bike as I’m just not riding 
> it all that much (my Riv’s just too much fun!).
>
> Made by Toyo for Ritchey, almost all of this is first gen Shimano XT (Deer 
> Head) along with some super rare high flange black XT hubs. The rear 
> brake’s a Suntour roller cam u-brake. The current tires (not pictured here) 
> are NOS Tioga Psycho II tires from the early 90s and shred super hard. 
> Superlative handling that’s very zippy and fun. Full hand brake levers from 
> Suntour, a worn in Brooks B17 saddle, nifty olive paint job, 45-36-24 
> chainrings, and a cute lil’ Velo Orange bell top it all off. Feel free to 
> ask any questions. I’m open to *reasonable* offers and also wish to sell 
> this locally (greater Bay Area).
>
> See here for some backstory: 
> https://theradavist.com/ritchey-ascent-review/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bikes For Sale: Craigslist, ebay, etc. Fall 2022 edition

[Julian Westerhout]

As that forest green All Rounder comes with a lot of extras -- front and 
rear Nitto Camping racks, Son dynamo front wheel plus original front wheel, 
and a pile of parts and accessories I think it is not a bad deal -- the 
$3000 is an asking price -- one might do better -- at $2500 that package is 
well worth it, IMHO, and at $3000 it is still not that bad -- given that 
custom Riv frames are now $5000+ and a Taiwan Riv frameset other than a 
Clem is $1700-1900 this not a bottom-feeding bargain, but if were the right 
size and someone was looking for a great riding classic Riv this would be 
hard to match -- and it looks like it has had very little use. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL  

On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 6:28:49 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Joe, you’re probably right that it is a 52 and the owner was measuring c-c 
> or something. If it were closer to a 54-55 size I’d be inclined to try to 
> negotiate a more reasonable price. That bike looks like it could use some 
> love.
>
> On Sep 25, 2022, at 6:25 PM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>
> 
>
> The $3,000 AR is a 51cm. I reached out to the seller since she’s in my 
> neck of the woods. I’m sure it’s a nice Riv for a project bike, but I agree 
> it’s got too much going against it to fetch that asking price.
>
> On Sep 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> I confess mine has "Ryan Fleming" on it. My vanity would almost certainly 
> discount the price...if I was going to sell it. My heirs' problem, not 
> mine. Saddle level with a Pearl stem. Moustache bars. I'm still OK with 
> that position and it's still a lovely bike...my issue is with the accursed 
> Compass McClure tires I replaced the perfectly fine Pasela 26" X 1.5"  
> tires with   ...an upgrade that really wasn't necessary.
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 3:03:10 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yeah that AR looks like the 52cm I had, which also had the dreaded 
>> owner's name on the toptube..not the most brilliant idea in early Rivland. 
>> $3000 is uh optimistic, there's a 50cm on Ebay that started there and 
>> is now down to $2000 with no takers. They're nice production bikes with 
>> beautiful paint and graphics but I think the low-ish bar heights available 
>> with them are a struggle for current Riv Riders. 
>>
>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 11:46:48 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> First one is a Waterford-built All-rounder. Same color as mine. Looks 
>>> like it wasn't ridden so much
>>>
>>> I don't have a FB account but I downloaded the screen shot and saw the 
>>> 531 decal ...and the lugs. $3000.00. Too much? Someone might want to cover 
>>> over owner's initials , which was an option at the time. Nice bike. 26" 
>>> wheels? Looks like a sub 56cm size but just guessing
>>>
>>> Haven't ridden mine much lately , but I'm loath to part with it.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 11:25:06 AM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>>
>>>> SAM $2400
>>>> 51m
>>>> Portland 
>>>>
>>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-bicycle-works-sam/7536289932.html
>>>>
>>>> Romulus $1550
>>>> 57cm
>>>> Seattle
>>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/bik/7530803930.html
>>>>
>>>> Bleriot  $1950
>>>> 55 cm
>>>> Seattle
>>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/7518207928.html
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 6:30:07 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rivendell Touring
>>>>> No size listed
>>>>> $3,000 
>>>>> Lexington, KY 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/399785835688755/?hoisted=false=search_code=null_story_type=post
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: 307812527_5541503645919163_3580851272735801391_n.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> Platypus
>>>>> 60cm
>>>>> $3,000
>>>>> Grand Rapids, MI
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1302632586938953/?hoisted=false=search_code=null_story_type=post
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: 302796712_4687769534658839_715238091324189516_n.jpg]
>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Atlantis 61cm Toyo

[Julian Westerhout]

There is some variation in Riv specs -- then and now!   :)

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 11:56:55 AM UTC-5 David Pulsipher wrote:

> Weird - I wonder if it was optional - I swear based on that link that I 
> can see dual fork-tip eyelets, but some without. A mystery!
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 10:50:55 AM UTC-6 weste...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I think that is the original fork. I think the bike on eBay is an 
>> early Atlantis -- the early ones did not have mid-fork braze-ons and dual 
>> fork-tip eyelets. See photos in the Riv brochure linked here:  
>> http://notfine.com/rivreader/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Atlantis%2001.pdf
>>
>> (I tried to attach the PDF but Google Groups says it is too big.)   :(  
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL  
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Atlantis 61cm Toyo

[Julian Westerhout]

Yes, I think that is the original fork. I think the bike on eBay is an 
early Atlantis -- the early ones did not have mid-fork braze-ons and dual 
fork-tip eyelets. See photos in the Riv brochure linked here: 
 http://notfine.com/rivreader/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Atlantis%2001.pdf

(I tried to attach the PDF but Google Groups says it is too big.)   :(  

Julian Westerhout
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[RBW] Re: FS Rambouillet and Atlantis bikes

[Julian Westerhout]

Jack, 

Condolences on your brother's passing.  Those are both beautiful bikes 
--very spiffy builds, and neither show much sign of wear or use.  I own 
larger versions of both of these bikes -- IMHO they're among the best 
Rivendell ever sold.  Good luck with the sale. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 3:49:18 PM UTC-5 jack...@comcast.net wrote:

> Hello fans of Rivendell
>
> My brother died earlier this year and left 2 beautiful Rivendell bikes to 
> his estate. They are too big for me, unfortunately.
>
> Rambouillet 60 cm, and Atlantis 61cm
>
> I'm in Minneapolis, but am willing to arrange shipping to a new home. 
> Please contact me with any questions.
>
>
> https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/d/saint-paul-rivendell-rambouillet/7485633065.html
>
>
> https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/d/saint-paul-rivendell-atlantis/7486994182.html
>
> Thanks
>
> Jack
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[RBW] Re: A love letter to stainless steel water bottles

[Julian Westerhout]

Andrew, 

Did you buy the raw or the coated version. How are they noise wise on a 
bumpy road? I tried Kleen Kanteen a few years back and the clatter annoyed 
my a lot -- but I thimnk thatmight have been the less than optimal fit in 
my metal cages. 

Thanks for the review -- it's always interesting to hear about innovative 
new products. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:12:48 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I came across this company a couple weeks ago and bought 2, and thought 
> I'd share.
> https://drinkbivo.com/  <https://drinkbivo.com/> 
>
> I've used both plastic (Purist) and stainless (Klean Kanteen) bottles in 
> the past but the Purist inevitably get funky, leaves an aftertaste despite 
> the hype, and will eventually get tossed. Kleans are great but not as 
> optimized for cycling as Bivo's product. I highly recommend trying them 
> out, especially if you haven't tried stainless. This came off really ady so 
> I apologize for that but plastic sucks...that being said, it looks like 
> some biodegradable options are popping up which is great. (But stainless 
> tastes so gd) OK I'M DONE, PROMISE! 
>
> Andrew

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blahg, Leah, sheep

[Julian Westerhout]

I would imagine and hope that the point of Leah riding with her group is 
for Leah to enjoy herself riding her bike in the company of others ...   
 Just ride.  :) 


Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 8:01:10 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

>
> Isn't the point of Leah riding with her group to show people you don't 
> need a carbon bike like everyone else, don't need to wear the same clothing 
> as everyone else, or even ride like everyone else ? Keeping pace can be in 
> an infinite variety of ways :)  Many cyclists have never seen such a bike 
> as Leah's, they just assume that every bike is like theirs, or what they 
> see at a bike shop. They have no idea what such a bike feels like to ride. 
> Just keep doing what you're doing . Not that you need to be told to be 
> yourself  !
>
> Non-conformity . that's what all the World thrives on, oh hell, there 
> is no World without It. This doesn't infer isolation or going lone wolf 
>  on the contrary  you will never feel more connected, more involved 
> ... with Everyone !
>
>
> Goats ?
> Goats ! 
> I like Goats too. 
> I regularly ride to a group of rural homes where 2 families have goats 
> across the street form each other. They are so much fun , so fascinating, 
> so playful and their expressions on their faces priceless.  Words ? Who 
> need words ? Communication is an "inside job" , you know ? All that "space" 
> between the lines, in the "silence" Hah !  Far from empty . it's 
> full of Life !  
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:10:17 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Patrick - Sell my Platypus? For some soulless road bike? This Platypus 
>> was forged from elven fires and painted in a color so wonderful that it 
>> didn’t even *exist* so we had to create it. There’s only one Raspberry 
>> Platypus on God’s Green Earth and it’s a *racing* Platypus, which makes 
>> it rarer still. Oh no, if I cannot ride the Racing Platypus in the club 
>> rides then they are not worth riding. I mean, would you expect Pam Murray 
>> to ride a road bike and not her Betty Foy? Unthinkable! 
>>
>> I’m happy you relate to besting other riders though - I did laugh as I 
>> pictured you racing the graybeard at 14.7 mph - which is plenty fast, by 
>> the way.
>>
>> Ryan - I blush at your confidence in me. I will give an honest report if 
>> I get to hang with the faster group on Monday. Even if they kick my 
>> Platypus tail.
>>
>> Joe - Nope. I don’t even want to borrow a soulless road bike. Being 
>> forced to orient myself to the head-down, lean forward position would 
>> probably demonstrate for the group an excellent crash. They would have to 
>> take time to gather and package all my body parts, which would have a 
>> definite negative impact on their pace. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> +1. Sell your Platypus, Leah. It's not enough. You need a tricked-out 
>> Roadeo with aero wheels and 6" drop between saddle and bar and a 56 X 11 
>> top gear.
>>
>> I recall the pleasant feeling of riding my mountain bike long ago, with 
>> those horrible 1990s tires that were the equivalent on pavement of riding 
>> into a 25 mph headwind, and passing men my age (early 40s back then) on 
>> hi-zoot road bikes. I didn't do this nastily, but it did give me an 
>> egotistical thrill when I passed at a brisk speed differential and oh, so 
>> casually! waved a forefinger, with the obligatory "nice bike!"
>>
>> The response was often a muted snarl. OTOH, I recall reeling in a roadie 
>> in the distance a few years ago and, about to pass him, he sped up. He was 
>> like me a grizzled graybeard, and we played passing tag for a few miles -- 
>> old man slow motion; we would have snarled at each other but we were too 
>> out of breath. We raced along side by side at exactly 14.743 mph.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 11:51 AM Ryan  wrote:
>>
>>> don't know about carbon but I could easily imagine Leah on a 
>>> Roadeo...just sayin'
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 12:22:26 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> The question is what she would do on one of those 16 lbs. carbon 
>>>> racers. Borrow one, Leah! Let's find out! 浪
>>>>
>>>> Joe "in the slow group" Bernard
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 9:44:53 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Somehow I don't think you'll be humbled, Leah
>>&g

[RBW] Re: Tool Fool - 27.2 seatpost solution

[Julian Westerhout]

Laing, 

Happy birthday!   :) 

I'd love to see a report on how you found the process once you've done it. 
easy to difficult, quality of result, etc. 

Thanks! 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 3:39:02 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
> Thanks Laing. 
>
> I'm glad to know about this tool.
>
> I'm wondering about the pros and cons of changing a 26.8 or perhaps 26.6 
> which most of my bike are to a 27.2.
>
> Well, I can think of several pros...
> I just wouldn't want to mess the seat tube up if there are cons.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>
> .
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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Wahoo Elemnt Bolt V1 bike GPS unit.

[Julian Westerhout]

Bill, it had one of each -- the full complement Wahoo ships it with. 

The unit is now sold. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> What bar mounts exactly?  The clamp on 31.8mm clamshell one?  The little 
> circle guy with a rubber bumper zip tie one?  One of each?  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 4:01:17 PM UTC-7 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> For Sale:   Wahoo Elemnt Bolt V1 bike GPS unit. 
>>
>> In excellent, nearly new condition, comes with new bar mounts (2) and all 
>> original packaging. 
>>
>> Photos here:   https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzKiUK
>>
>> $125 shipped w/in CONUS 
>>
>> Paypal F preferred. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout, Bloomington, IL
>>
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[RBW] For Sale: Wahoo Elemnt Bolt V1 bike GPS unit.

[Julian Westerhout]

For Sale:   Wahoo Elemnt Bolt V1 bike GPS unit. 

In excellent, nearly new condition, comes with new bar mounts (2) and all 
original packaging. 

Photos here:   https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzKiUK

$125 shipped w/in CONUS 

Paypal F preferred. 

Julian Westerhout, Bloomington, IL

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[RBW] Re: For Sale -- one pair Gravel Kink SK 700 x 32; one Silver Hupe type saddle bag support

[Julian Westerhout]

Price drop on the Gravel King 700 x 32c tires -- now $50 shipped w/in 
CONUS. 

The saddlebag support has sold. 

Thanks! 

Julian Westerhout


On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For Sale: 
>
> One pair of Panaracer Gravel King SK tires 700 x 32   Brand New. $60 
> shipped w/in CONUS. 
>
> A Silver Hupe type saddlebag support (not an actual Silver Hupe, but 
> almost identical, not sure of the maker, not used). See 
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/mounting-a-silver-hupe   for a short video 
> on how these work. $35 shipped w/in CONUS 
>
> Paypal F preferred
>
> Photos at https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzzMt8
>
> Julian Westerhout, Bloomington, IL 
>

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[RBW] For Sale -- one pair Gravel Kink SK 700 x 32; one Silver Hupe type saddle bag support

[Julian Westerhout]

For Sale: 

One pair of Panaracer Gravel King SK tires 700 x 32   Brand New. $60 
shipped w/in CONUS. 

A Silver Hupe type saddlebag support (not an actual Silver Hupe, but almost 
identical, not sure of the maker, not used). See 
https://www.rivbike.com/pages/mounting-a-silver-hupe   for a short video on 
how these work. $35 shipped w/in CONUS 

Paypal F preferred

Photos at https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzzMt8

Julian Westerhout, Bloomington, IL 

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Re: [RBW] Swift Industries moving stock production to Asia

[Julian Westerhout]

It is interesting. I wish them all the luck in the world -- having worked 
for a now-defunct small U.S. production outdoor clothing company in the 
1990s I know these decisions can be tough. I fully understand the desire to 
increase margins, but their statement "From stronger wages and benefits, to 
exciting new career horizons, our move to overseas production intends to 
elevate everyone’s work experiences through Swift" ignores the major 
elephant in the room. Sure, "stronger wages"  for their designers and 
shippers in the U.S., perhaps, but less (and possibly ultimately no) work 
for their U.S. sewers, and the reality that their Indonesian contract 
sewers will be making FAR less than the U.S. sewers that they are 
replacing...

The market is competitive -- and there are a number of U.S. bag makers at 
their price point. It will be interesting to see what happens, especially 
if they maintain their price points. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 7:38:53 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know. And believe me I get the Irony of my expressing disappointment 
> over this as I enjoy my not made in the USA new Riv bike. It’s difficult 
> because I do really enjoy the buying experience of these MUSA products & 
> will continue to seek them out. I also appreciate the “transparency” aspect 
> of the Swift announcement.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 22, 2022, at 7:06 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I understand running a boutique bag business must be tough but kinda 
> bummed to learn that "Beginning in March of 2022, a portion of our stock 
> collection will be made in Indonesia, built from materials produced 
> throughout Asia." 
>
> I dig the freaky small makers working in the USA: Paul, Phil, Sackville, 
> White Industries, etc. 
>
> More here: 
>
> https://builtbyswift.com/exciting-swift-news-change-is-coming-in-march-2022/
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[RBW] Re: For Sale: 65cm Specialized Sequoia frame, fork, seat post, and FSA head set

[Julian Westerhout]

This frame is sold, pending payment. Thanks! 

On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 6:23:16 PM UTC-6 jamin orrall wrote:

> these are excellent riding bicycles. 
>
> On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 3:43:01 PM UTC-8 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> For Sale: 65cm Specialized Sequoia frame, fork, seat post, and FSA head 
>> set . Blue. I believe it to be a 1983 model. 
>>
>> This would make a great poor man's Rivendell Rambouillet. I've owned both 
>> and they feel like siblings to me. 
>>
>> This is a really nice Sequoia, with one semi-major caveat. It came from 
>> specialized with two bottle mounts — one on the top of the down tube, the 
>> other underneath the down tube. Someone prior to me in this bike’s life 
>> drilled two holes in the seat tube for a third bottle, but they are not 
>> quite straight, nor are they nut-serted or tapped. I put tape over the 
>> holes and then put a Velo-Orange bottle mount in the proper spot (covers 
>> the holes) — you can see it in the photos. 
>>
>> Overall I’d call the paint pretty good — there are a few scuffs and on 
>> one fork leg and one seat stay the chrome is showing through a scrape. I am 
>> including the seep-down cable end for the rear derailleur cable mount on 
>> the chain stay. 
>>
>>
>> This is a wonderful riding bike — I had one and sold it a few 
>> years ago, missed it, so bought this one, and have recently acquired 
>> another frame in the 68.5 cm size which fits me better. Due to the water 
>> bottle mount issue I’m selling this at what I consider to be a bargain 
>> price. 
>>
>> $100 plus actual cost shipping (I’ll pack it carefully at no cost) 
>>  within the CONUS. 
>>
>> PayPal F preferred. 
>>
>> Photos at https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzyZ82
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] For Sale: 65cm Specialized Sequoia frame, fork, seat post, and FSA head set

[Julian Westerhout]

For Sale: 65cm Specialized Sequoia frame, fork, seat post, and FSA head set 
. Blue. I believe it to be a 1983 model. 

This would make a great poor man's Rivendell Rambouillet. I've owned both 
and they feel like siblings to me. 

This is a really nice Sequoia, with one semi-major caveat. It came from 
specialized with two bottle mounts — one on the top of the down tube, the 
other underneath the down tube. Someone prior to me in this bike’s life 
drilled two holes in the seat tube for a third bottle, but they are not 
quite straight, nor are they nut-serted or tapped. I put tape over the 
holes and then put a Velo-Orange bottle mount in the proper spot (covers 
the holes) — you can see it in the photos. 

Overall I’d call the paint pretty good — there are a few scuffs and on one 
fork leg and one seat stay the chrome is showing through a scrape. I am 
including the seep-down cable end for the rear derailleur cable mount on 
the chain stay. 


This is a wonderful riding bike — I had one and sold it a few years 
ago, missed it, so bought this one, and have recently acquired another 
frame in the 68.5 cm size which fits me better. Due to the water bottle 
mount issue I’m selling this at what I consider to be a bargain price. 

$100 plus actual cost shipping (I’ll pack it carefully at no cost)  within 
the CONUS. 

PayPal F preferred. 

Photos at https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzyZ82

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



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[RBW] Re: PayPal now taxing goods & services transactions >$600

[Julian Westerhout]

Unless you are actually making a net profit on your bike and other sales 
paid via Paypal this will have no impact other than requiring a bit more 
carful record keeping. Even if you get a 1099 you can report a cost basis 
equal to the 1099 amount if you sold for less than what you originally 
bought the items for, so you will not pay any taxes. Of course you should 
retain some sort of record of original purchase price versus what you sold 
it for. 

If someone is selling 10s of thousands of dollars of stuff through Paypal 
and claims a high cost basis they should be fully prepared to back it up. 
For most of us it is not a big deal -- the law regarding what is taxed has 
not changed, just the reporting -- designed to catch those who are actually 
engaged in a profit- making business but who might be evading taxes. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 
On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 9:33:20 PM UTC-5 Erik wrote:

> I'm pretty certain that this is a new requirement that takes effect on 
> January 1, 2022.  It will result in PayPal, Venmo, etc. being required to 
> issue 1099-K forms to anyone who sells in excess of $600 per year.  The old 
> threshold was $20,000 and 200 transactions.  It's been lowered to $600 no 
> matter the number of transactions.  PayPal is starting to inform customers 
> now it seems.  
>
>  
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis and Sequoias for sale

[Julian Westerhout]

Joe, 

Do you have photos and prices for these bikes? By my count you're selling 
somewhere between 4 and 15 bikes of various types and conditions -- it's 
not entirely clear to me which bikes you're actually selling. Taking photos 
and making a list with prices might help sell them. 

All the best, 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, Il 
On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 2:08:25 PM UTC-5 Joe in the Pay Area wrote:

> I'm the friend that Rich Lesnik has posted about a lot of bikes that need 
> to be "cleared out" and sold. Please respond to me off-group and I'll get 
> back to you as best I can.
>
> The seapuke green Atlantis is nominally a 60cm, complete except for 
> brakes. I have a n-o-s 60cm Sequoia (there were no '61' cm Sequoias), a 
> 3Rensho frameset and 2 62cm Sequoias, one a sorta n-o-s. The second 62 
> Sequoia is mostly complete but in "rough shape," nothing a good cleaning 
> and tune-up wouldn't solve (but if you're looking for a candidate as a 
> museum piece, this ain't it).
>
> Other bikes being considered for "gone" are a DeRosa, a Masi, a '93 XO-1 
> and several Expeditions, mostly 60s but also a 49 and a 54. To say the 
> least, it's a helluva fleet. Also an '85 Trek 720 (maroon), an almost n-o-s 
> '85 Trek 620 ( a beautiful sparkly deep blue), and a n-o-s Miyata 1000 (the 
> "sort-of gray-green color, with Deerheads).
>
> I ride a 60cm 1984 Expedition and a 1980 Trek 738, so unless noted, that's 
> the size they are.
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[RBW] Re: BG Rock n' road, Panaracer Col de la vie, Gravel king tires for sale

[Julian Westerhout]

Gravel Kings and Rock n'Roads both sold. 

Col De La Vie pair still available. Make offer! 

Thanks. 

On Thursday, August 5, 2021 at 11:07:12 AM UTC-5 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> Gravel Kings are sold, others still available. Thanks.
>
> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 2:01:41 PM UTC-5 Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
>> For Sale: 
>>
>> One pair of Panaracer Col de la Vie 650b  x 38  tires. Light use, one has 
>> dirty sidewalls, 85-90% of life left in them. $35 shipped to CONUS for the 
>> pair. 
>>
>> One pair of brand new, never unwrapped Panaracer Gravel King SK 650b x 42 
>>  (27.5 x 1.75) tires. $60 shipped to CONUS for the pair. 
>>
>> One pair of Bruce Gordon Rock n’ Road 700 x 43 tires. Light use, some 
>> dirt, 85-90% of life left in these. $60 shipped to CONUS for the pair. 
>>
>> Paypal F preferred. 
>>
>> Photos at https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWm89zF
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: BG Rock n' road, Panaracer Col de la vie, Gravel king tires for sale

[Julian Westerhout]

Gravel Kings are sold, others still available. Thanks.

On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 2:01:41 PM UTC-5 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For Sale: 
>
> One pair of Panaracer Col de la Vie 650b  x 38  tires. Light use, one has 
> dirty sidewalls, 85-90% of life left in them. $35 shipped to CONUS for the 
> pair. 
>
> One pair of brand new, never unwrapped Panaracer Gravel King SK 650b x 42 
>  (27.5 x 1.75) tires. $60 shipped to CONUS for the pair. 
>
> One pair of Bruce Gordon Rock n’ Road 700 x 43 tires. Light use, some 
> dirt, 85-90% of life left in these. $60 shipped to CONUS for the pair. 
>
> Paypal F preferred. 
>
> Photos at https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWm89zF
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
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[RBW] BG Rock n' road, Panaracer Col de la vie, Gravel king tires for sale

[Julian Westerhout]

For Sale: 

One pair of Panaracer Col de la Vie 650b  x 38  tires. Light use, one has 
dirty sidewalls, 85-90% of life left in them. $35 shipped to CONUS for the 
pair. 

One pair of brand new, never unwrapped Panaracer Gravel King SK 650b x 42 
 (27.5 x 1.75) tires. $60 shipped to CONUS for the pair. 

One pair of Bruce Gordon Rock n’ Road 700 x 43 tires. Light use, some dirt, 
85-90% of life left in these. $60 shipped to CONUS for the pair. 

Paypal F preferred. 

Photos at https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWm89zF

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

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[RBW] Re: Iowa 2021

[Julian Westerhout]

Hello Rusty, 

I remember meeting you on the last day of RAGBRAI 2018. I'll not be there 
this year. I hope that you and your daughter have a great week!   

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 1:58:56 PM UTC-5 Rusty Click wrote:

> Any listers planning on riding their Rivendell steeds across Iowa this 
> year?
>
> I'll be taking my MUSA Atlantis this year and I'll be riding with my 
> daughter for her first ever RAGBRAI.  I've met Julian briefly, and missed 
> Tim G a few times. 
>
> Rusty Click
> Pgh, PA
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Mouseproof handlebar bag

[Julian Westerhout]

FWIW, the only way to "mouseproof" a handlebar bag of any sort that is used 
on a bike shored in a rural shed is to remove it from the bike and take 
inside your house, where, presumably, the mice do not reside. 

If you ever carry food or other comestibles in your bag the smells will 
attract them even after the food is removed -- even through a zipper or a 
roll up flap. They'll then chew holes in your bag to get in if there's not 
a convenient opening, and then you're done for. 

:) 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 10:42:02 PM UTC-5 Drw wrote:

> I'm looking for a medium capacity handlebar bag with a few specific 
> requirements. 
>
> -rackless/decaleurless
> -larger than the little tube barrel style bags
> -uses a zipper or multi roll closure 
>
> The last requirement is on account that the bike gets left in a rural shed 
> and any bags with flap openings, like a carradice, become mouse nests 
> really fast (also if anyone knows how to keep mice out of nesting in lawn 
> mowers, that would be great intel).
>
> Id have bought the velo orange mini rando bag but its sold out. Open to 
> something bigger too, like a roadrunner jammer. Would like to keep it under 
> 100$
>
> I have a honey brooks conquest, green guru triangle bag, soma osprey 
> handlebars if a trade is of any interest. Also happy to pay. 
>
> email is  Dr ewbeck meyer @gmail.com
> Drew. Los angeles.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Spectrum lugged tandem frameset

[Julian Westerhout]

Ed, that's a spectacular bike -- and now that Spectrum has closed, a lugged 
modern tandem like this is more rare than ever -- very few builders will 
undertake that job, and those that will will justifiably charge a lot more 
that hat this one will cost someone used. 

Did you guys replace it with something else? Please tell me that you are 
still riding a tandem -- my wife/stoker and I both enjoy your stoker's 
Chasing Mailboxes blog -- especially the tandem content! 

If it were our size I'd be all over this -- it will be a treat for someone. 

GLWTS, 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 


On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 12:52:18 PM UTC-5 Ed Felker wrote:

> We're letting go of our 2015 custom Spectrum lugged tandem frameset, with 
> some extras. 
>
> The captain top tube is 57.5 cm effective. I'm 5"11" and I have the saddle 
> about as low as it can go at about 72.5 cm and still accommodate the stoker 
> boom. Steerer is uncut.
>
> My stoker is 5'8" and it was built for a stretched stoker position. It can 
> easily handle someone shorter and a bit taller. 
>
> We set it up with drop bars, 700x32mm tires with fenders and disk brakes. 
> It's got a fast, solid feel, it reminds me of my Rambouillet.  
>
> Other details: King headset; quick release dropouts; 145mm rear/100mm 
> front hub spacing; front and rear rack mounts. (It was not meant for loaded 
> touring, however).
>
> Includes stoker boom and fenders.
>
> See a full set of photos and the frame sizing schematic here: 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1gJq14wBO-aJbcl4uwFv6IAtF102f8EJC
>
> Asking $3,650 plus actual ship or pick up in the Washington, D.C. area. No 
> dents, minimal marks. I also have wheels and the NItto 32F rack to sell, 
> please inquire if needed. 
>
> Thanks for looking! 
> Ed Felker
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS wheel set

[Julian Westerhout]

Dear hm, 

Are these 650b or 700c? 130 or 135 rear spacing? 7-9 speed cassette body or 
10-speed+? 

Rich/Hands On does lace up strong wheels! 

Thanks, 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 11:31:56 AM UTC-6 hm_w...@hotmail.com wrote:

> [image: C9511E0D-BDC6-4350-8A50-1DED91B70266.jpeg][image: 
> CD5E360B-138E-4F07-A8E4-20EB815A2B49.jpeg]FS wheel set. Help these bad 
> boys find a home. Velocity Dyads to Shimano Deore hubs hand built by 
> Rivendell wheel builder Rich. Excellent condition- barely used. $275 obo 
> plus shipping. Phoenix
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Brooks Pro saddle broken/issues -- free for shipping

[Julian Westerhout]

Saddle spoken for. 

Thanks. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 12:48:49 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> I have a Brooks Pro saddle with a broken rail and with the leather pulling 
> away from in front of the outermost rear rivets on each side. 
>
> Before I toss it in the trash bin I thought I'd offer it for free if 
> someone wants it for a display bike or feels up to making repairs - you pay 
> actual shipping cost. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Julian Westerhout]

The navigation is a bit tricky --  the three bar menu shortcut is sort of 
semi-standard on phone apps, but not so much on websites. It took me a bit 
before I figured it out. I asked my wife to look at the page and to find 
the navigation menu -- she scrolled and looked for a bit, then said "there 
isn't one."  Had she scrolled all the way down she might have seen the 
links, or perhaps if the three bars stayed pegged to the top of the page 
she might have noticed them, but as it is she did not -- it takes some 
savvy and of persistence -- not sure that's the goal.  It's more minimal on 
the landing page, but less obvious and less user friendly IMHO. It is, on 
the other hand, appears to be trying to be trendy and "hip" -- which, 
ironically, seems antithetical to the position of Riv as a company.  YMMV 
-- I'm just a grumpy middle-aged guy in the frozen tundra of the midwest, 
so...

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL  
On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 11:44:39 AM UTC-6 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> As a film shooter, I appreciate the obvious use of analog photographs on 
> the home page. Nice!
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>
> On Feb 12, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Paul Richardson  wrote:
>
> i for one made frequent use of the 'email me when this item is back in 
> stock' option and would very much appreciate if that returned.
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 11:50:44 AM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>
>> I like being able to see my whole purchase history in my account, via the 
>> page number scroller. I think the old site used to cut off at about 1 
>> year’s worth of transactions
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 8:16:22 AM UTC-8 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> I like the new look. Great to see Leah's excellently appointed Platypus 
>>> build up on the new news section. It would be nice if you could click on an 
>>> image to expand it. I like being able to check out all the little details 
>>> on people's bikes.
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:00:43 AM UTC-6 Mark Roland wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looking good.  Regarding the sub categories, which indeed can be 
>>>> helpful, if you open the "3-bar" menu, you get the drop down major 
>>>> categories--Parts, Gear, Garage Sale, etc. By clicking the "+" sign next 
>>>> to 
>>>> a main category, you get subcategories--eg, under Parts, you get Bottom 
>>>> Brackets, Brakes, Cassettes, Etc. If you click on brakes, you get the 
>>>> whole 
>>>> shebang, blended together--calipers, levers, pads, cables--all 
>>>> intermingled 
>>>> with willy and nilly.  BUT, if you click directly on the word "Parts" 
>>>> instead of the "+", you get taken to the Catalog, which breaks down brakes 
>>>> into: Brake types, brake hardware, etc. (The catalog also appears to the 
>>>> right of the drop down main, but is cut off, at least on my laptop.) Would 
>>>> there be a way for that click on Parts to bring you to exclusively that 
>>>> "catalog style" menu JUST for parts? 
>>>>
>>>> Two sections that could use a further "+" or submenu IMO would be 
>>>> brakes and handlebars. 
>>>>
>>>> It's not an easy task to develop a logical taxonomy for web site 
>>>> navigation. Multiple pathways and redundancies are good, but can sometimes 
>>>> be confusing when different pathways use different nomenclature, or when 
>>>> it's not clear where exactly you are.  The ultimate is to have a visitor 
>>>> who finds what they are seeking in two or three easy no-brainer clicks.
>>>>
>>>> I imagine some further refinement and tweaking could be a benefit. 
>>>> Meanwhile, totally useable as is.
>>>> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:21 PM UTC-5 Dave wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com 
>>>>> webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage, 
>>>>> improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother 
>>>>> experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
>>>>>
>>>>> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on 
>>>>> Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to 
>>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs

Re: [RBW] Leah Peterson Takes A Stand

[Julian Westerhout]

Roberta, 

I have an older Ultimate/Feedback Pro rack, and I have a friend who has the 
current Sport model, which is their more affordable version. 

We've also both used the Park deluxe home stand a fair amount while 
volunteering at our local bike co-op. 

The clamp mechanism and adjustability on both of the Feedback models is far 
better than the Park, IMHO. The three leg design of the Feedback models is 
also more stable and tip resistant if you set it up to balance a heavy 
bike. 

The major difference I see between the two Feedback models is beefiness and 
a bit better clamp. If you are using it for typical home use then the 
Feedback Sport model is fine -- about the same cost as the Park Deluxe and 
I think it is a better design. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 6:18:31 AM UTC-6 Roberta wrote:

> Feedback Sfports has a less expensive version too. Anyone have feedback on 
> that one?
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 2:21:22 AM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:
>
>> The Park is a good value and solid. I have an Ultimate from many years 
>> ago -- Resembles the Feedback Sports and folds smaller and is lighter than 
>> the Park. But it does cost more. The Feedback tool tray is a significant 
>> accessory to add to the package.
>> Being able to change height and rotate your bike while it is in the stand 
>> is a big advantage over the hooks suspended from ceiling joist method where 
>> the bike is always swinging away from you as you try to work on it.
>>
>> David Lipsky
>> Berkeley, CA
>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 9:44:01 PM UTC-8 Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>>> That Park stand is the standard.
>>> I am so cheap, I built and rebuilt bikes for years and years until i got 
>>> a stand as a present. Life changing. 
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Santa Rosa,CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 7:26:44 PM UTC-8 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a Park Tool stand similar to this one:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.parktool.com/product/deluxe-home-mechanic-repair-stand-pcs-10-2?category=Portable
>>>>  
>>>> <https://www.parktool.com/product/home-mechanic-repair-stand-pcs-9-2?category=Portable>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I’ve had mine for a few years. Folds up easily, holds the bike very 
>>>> steady. The clamp rotates to hold via the seat post (my preferred 
>>>> location) 
>>>> or the top tube. 
>>>>
>>>> Mine differs from the stands on the Park web site in the way the legs 
>>>> fold up and in the way the clamp works. Otherwise very much the same. I 
>>>> can 
>>>> highly recommend it.
>>>>
>>>> --Eric Norris
>>>> campyo...@me.com
>>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, that got your attention. 
>>>>
>>>> I’m not actually taking a stand so much as BUYING a stand. I have had 
>>>> it with trying to work on a bike on its kickstand. Tonight I tried to put 
>>>> sealant in my tire and the tire deflated and my Clementine tipped over. 
>>>> Hopping mad...that would be an apt description of me in the garage 
>>>> tonight. 
>>>> I’m sick and tired of wrecking my back and fed up with the awkwardness of 
>>>> working on a bike that is always threatening to tip over. I’m taking a 
>>>> stand against not having a stand.
>>>>
>>>> I know Rivendell sells a stand but last I checked, it is sold out and 
>>>> also $$$. Is there anything that makes their stand worth waiting for? 
>>>>
>>>> I don’t have many preferences, save two: I don’t want something that 
>>>> takes up a bunch of room, and I want the clamp to be on the seat post. 
>>>> (Not 
>>>> the frame.)
>>>>
>>>> You’re the best!
>>>> Leah
>>>>
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: non-disc Phil rear cassette hub 135mm for Bombadil

[Julian Westerhout]

FWIW, I'm not sure of too many bike part makers who service/supply parts 
for things that they sold 12+ years ago. 

A number of years ago I had a tandem wheel with one of White's early Daisy 
hubs that had an issue -- no dice in getting parts.  Small makers, evolving 
designs, and time all make that a bit tough. 

This issue is not just limited to small makers, though -- the big ones are 
worse in my experience. 

Just try getting parts for Shimano gear made just 3 or 4 years ago.   ;) 

Campy historically has been pretty good about supporting older designs, but 
 just went through an interesting experience trying to get some parts to 
refurbish a set of Campy Record brifters of similar age -- no parts 
available from Campy, but did find a small shop that had the parts. 

The good news is that a moderately cared for Phil hub is likely to last for 
many miles and many years, so not too much of a worry. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:13:01 AM UTC-6 Nick Payne wrote:

> You'd be buying obsolescence. I have one of these hubs, with about a dozen 
> years of use on it, and when I tried to get some replacement pawls for it 
> from Phil recently, as the pawls are starting to lose engagement every so 
> often and jump, the response was that they don't have the pawls for those 
> old hubs any longer (they changed the pawl design a few years ago), and the 
> only option was to send it back to them for an upgrade to 11-speed freehub, 
> at a cost, not including shipping, of $US250. As I can buy 
>
> I'd be looking for something like a White Industries MI5 instead.
>
> Nick Payne
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Ostrich F104 handlebar bag and Velo Orange Randonneur rack

[Julian Westerhout]

Sold. Thanks. 

On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 7:48:50 AM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For Sale: 
>
> Ostrich F104 handlebar bag in olive —  very good condition, very light 
> use. The bag has Dock-it RaClips on the bottom of the bag for secure quick 
> release rack mounting. 
>
> The rack is a Velo-Orange Randonneur Front Rack for cantilever with 
> integrated decaleur and a hoop top for use without the bag. The rack comes 
> with the Velo-Orange double sided brake/rack mounting bolts. Rack is in 
> very good condition. 
>
> I am selling the bag, RaClips, and rack as a set. 
>
> $110  plus shipping at actual cost. 
>
> Julian Westerhout - Bloomington, IL 
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Seat bags, seat bag supports, tail light, truing stand

[Julian Westerhout]

All items are now sold. Thanks. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Sunday, December 6, 2020 at 11:21:59 AM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> This is what's left this morning -- thanks! 
>
> For Sale: 
>
> Berthoud Small Universal Bag - Black. New, not used. Straps have some 
> black dye stains (see photos). This bag can be sued as a seat pack or as a 
> small rack bag. $60
>
> Ocean Air Cycles Erlen Saddle bag support version 1. essentially brand new 
> $75
>
> Nitto saddle bag support — essentially brand new $50
>
>
> Prices do not include shipping. Will ship at actual cost. 
>
> Photos at:   https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSANPcS
>
> PayPal preferred
>
> Julian Westerhout, Bloomington, Il 
> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 8:27:34 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
>> Sorry, that photo link was bad -- this one should work:  
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSAr9qg
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>>
>> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 8:24:08 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:
>>
>>> For Sale: 
>>>
>>> Ruthworks Ultralight Large Wedge — black.  Essentially brand new. $65
>>>
>>> Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack XS  dark royal blue. - extremely clean, 
>>> excellent condition. $50
>>>
>>> Berthoud Small Universal Bag - Black. New, not used. Straps have some 
>>> black dye stains (see photos). This back can be sued as a seat pack or as a 
>>> small rack bag. $60
>>>
>>> Serfas UTL-8 Thunderbolt Tail Light - pink — brand new usb super bright 
>>> tail light. $20
>>>
>>> Minoura Workman Pro Wheel Truing Stand — in original box, in veery good 
>>> condition. $50
>>>
>>> Ocean Air Cycles Erlen Saddle bag support version 1. essentially brand 
>>> new $75
>>>
>>> Nitto saddle bag support — essentially brand new $50
>>>
>>> Prices do not include shipping. Will ship at actual cost. 
>>>
>>> Photos at:   https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSANPcS
>>>
>>> PayPal preferred
>>>
>>> Julian Westerhout, Bloomington, Il 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Seat bags, seat bag supports, tail light, truing stand

[Julian Westerhout]

This is what's left this morning -- thanks! 

For Sale: 

Berthoud Small Universal Bag - Black. New, not used. Straps have some black 
dye stains (see photos). This bag can be sued as a seat pack or as a small 
rack bag. $60

Ocean Air Cycles Erlen Saddle bag support version 1. essentially brand new 
$75

Nitto saddle bag support — essentially brand new $50


Prices do not include shipping. Will ship at actual cost. 

Photos at:   https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSANPcS

PayPal preferred

Julian Westerhout, Bloomington, Il 
On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 8:27:34 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> Sorry, that photo link was bad -- this one should work:  
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSAr9qg
>
> Julian Westerhout
>
> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 8:24:08 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
>> For Sale: 
>>
>> Ruthworks Ultralight Large Wedge — black.  Essentially brand new. $65
>>
>> Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack XS  dark royal blue. - extremely clean, 
>> excellent condition. $50
>>
>> Berthoud Small Universal Bag - Black. New, not used. Straps have some 
>> black dye stains (see photos). This back can be sued as a seat pack or as a 
>> small rack bag. $60
>>
>> Serfas UTL-8 Thunderbolt Tail Light - pink — brand new usb super bright 
>> tail light. $20
>>
>> Minoura Workman Pro Wheel Truing Stand — in original box, in veery good 
>> condition. $50
>>
>> Ocean Air Cycles Erlen Saddle bag support version 1. essentially brand 
>> new $75
>>
>> Nitto saddle bag support — essentially brand new $50
>>
>> Prices do not include shipping. Will ship at actual cost. 
>>
>> Photos at:   https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSANPcS
>>
>> PayPal preferred
>>
>> Julian Westerhout, Bloomington, Il 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Seat bags, seat bag supports, tail light, truing stand

[Julian Westerhout]

Sorry, that photo link was bad -- this one should work: 
 https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSAr9qg

Julian Westerhout

On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 8:24:08 PM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For Sale: 
>
> Ruthworks Ultralight Large Wedge — black.  Essentially brand new. $65
>
> Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack XS  dark royal blue. - extremely clean, 
> excellent condition. $50
>
> Berthoud Small Universal Bag - Black. New, not used. Straps have some 
> black dye stains (see photos). This back can be sued as a seat pack or as a 
> small rack bag. $60
>
> Serfas UTL-8 Thunderbolt Tail Light - pink — brand new usb super bright 
> tail light. $20
>
> Minoura Workman Pro Wheel Truing Stand — in original box, in veery good 
> condition. $50
>
> Ocean Air Cycles Erlen Saddle bag support version 1. essentially brand new 
> $75
>
> Nitto saddle bag support — essentially brand new $50
>
> Prices do not include shipping. Will ship at actual cost. 
>
> Photos at:   https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSANPcS
>
> PayPal preferred
>
> Julian Westerhout, Bloomington, Il 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Seat bags, seat bag supports, tail light, truing stand

[Julian Westerhout]

For Sale: 

Ruthworks Ultralight Large Wedge — black.  Essentially brand new. $65

Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack XS  dark royal blue. - extremely clean, 
excellent condition. $50

Berthoud Small Universal Bag - Black. New, not used. Straps have some black 
dye stains (see photos). This back can be sued as a seat pack or as a small 
rack bag. $60

Serfas UTL-8 Thunderbolt Tail Light - pink — brand new usb super bright 
tail light. $20

Minoura Workman Pro Wheel Truing Stand — in original box, in veery good 
condition. $50

Ocean Air Cycles Erlen Saddle bag support version 1. essentially brand new 
$75

Nitto saddle bag support — essentially brand new $50

Prices do not include shipping. Will ship at actual cost. 

Photos at:   https://flic.kr/s/aHsmSANPcS

PayPal preferred

Julian Westerhout, Bloomington, Il 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: maybe my Medium Susie in blue, $2500 shipped

[Julian Westerhout]

Patrick, It is my belief that this for sale post is by long time poster and 
inveterate bike experimenter Igor B. 

Julian "I've got a bit of the old yearn to try new bikes, too, so i know it 
when I see a severe case"  Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 4:35:26 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Why don't you add your name?
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:53 PM i  wrote:
>
>> I've changed my mind.
>> S65 post not included. the original stock one is. Knock $100 off the 
>> price. $2400 it is then.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 3:49:40 PM UTC-5 i wrote:
>>
>>> $2500
>>>
>>> Why this price? I dont know, I spit balled it. I'm reluctant to sell 
>>> this bike but I also don't really need it. It takes time to pack a bike, 
>>> time I don't have, time is expensive to me right now.
>>>
>>> It's really fun and rides well but..yeah reducing what is in my stable 
>>> would be nice
>>>
>>> Wheels are from the Clem Smith complete, 27.5. Thunderburt tires.
>>> Nitto filet stem, though maybe I keep it and swap for something else. 
>>> Wavie bars. Nitto S65 seatpost. 
>>> SiLVER crank 38/24. Sunrace shifter, just for the back Deore derailleur. 
>>> 9speed cassette. Shimano DXR v-brakes. Sunrace brake levers. Seat? Not sure 
>>> I am including that.
>>>
>>> I think I covered it all?
>>>
>>> Rack and bag not included, neither are bottle cages.
>>>
>>> Photo:
>>> https://imgur.com/Yt4wx5q
>>>
>>> So yes, $2500. Seems like a fine price for a bike. Better yet, come get 
>>> it from me in Ann Arbor.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Has anyone tried the new Tosco bar?

[Julian Westerhout]

Joe, do you remember roughly how much less rise they had? Also, were the 
grip portions on the Bullmoose version tilted down or roughly straight? 
I'm considering them instead of the Bullmoose Boscos on our HHH -- I'm 
looking for something a bit lower and with a bit more flare. 
thanks, 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, Il 

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 5:57:09 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Oh I misspoke - that's a lawyer word for i don't know that the heck I'm 
> talking about - they do make the Bullmoose Tosco for threadless steerers. 
> My bad! 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 3:42:39 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Indeed Alberto, I think this bar would solve that problem. It had kind of 
>> a "klunker bar" feel to it with the mid-rise, and the ends flared more than 
>> the almost-straight-back feel of my Boscos. I'm tempted to switch! 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-8 Alberto Robador wrote:
>>
>>> Cool, thanks Joe! I always thought the Bosco didn't have enough flare 
>>> for some off road bumpy trails. I often found myself loosing grip and 
>>> slipping forward on the bars.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 10:35:26 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> I should add that no one told me when I hopped on the bike that it had 
>>>> a new bar. It was noticeably different and great and I asked them about it 
>>>> when I got back from my spin around the building. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 12:05:55 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I only rode the Bullmoose prototype (pictured in the product listing 
>>>>> but not available) on a Susie at RBW, it's what it presents as: a Bosco 
>>>>> with a little less rise and a little more flare at the grips. My first 
>>>>> reaction was "yeah, you gotta make this bar", the flaring out compared to 
>>>>> my current Boscos (which I love) was real nice. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 11:11:33 PM UTC-8 Alberto Robador 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm curious to hear any first impressions on this bar and how it 
>>>>>> compares to the Bosco
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Alberto
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Chambray shirt deal alert

[Julian Westerhout]

Dan, 

Thanks for the tip -- it looks like they've got several other nice shirts 
and some good looking shorts on clearance as well. USA made, and free 
shipping, too. I'll be giving them a try. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 9:48:26 AM UTC-6 danmc wrote:

> Edgevale has their chambray shirt from last year on close out for $34. I 
> have been really happy with this shirt. The fabric is not pre-shrunk but a 
> good wash and dry gets it to a perfect Riv fit - not fitted with room to 
> move. At $89 they were a good deal. At $34 it is a crazy good deal. 
>
> https://edgevaleusa.com/collections/sale/products/elwell-chambray
>
> Sewn in the US from Japanese fabric. 
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Dan
>
> San Rafael CA
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 700c wheels, stems, 650b Pari Moto tires, seat post; free headlights.

[Julian Westerhout]

Tires, lights, and a stem have been claimed. 

Remaining items with some price cuts listed below

>
> 40 hole front wheel. Phil Wood hub, Shimano skewer, Mavic T520 Rim, Good 
> condition. Was $100, now $90
>
> Set of 32 hole Shimano 105 hubs, H + plus Son TB14 Polished Silver - rims, 
> DT spokes, FSA rim strips. These wheels are brand new —never been on a 
> bike. I was going to use them on my new Rambouillet, but decided to go 
> Campy on that build instead.  Was $240, now $210 
>
> 75mm 26.0 Nitto stem , some scratches, plus scotch tape.   Was $15, now $10
>
> 85mm 26.0 Nitto stem with scratches.  Was $15, now $10
>
> 85mm 26.0 Cinelli stem - Nice condition.  Was $25, now $20
>
> Thomsen Elite 27.4 x 300 seat post silver. Scratches on bottom 2+ inches, 
> otherwise pristine. Was $40, now $30
>
> All prices do not include shipping. 
>
> Paypal preferred. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 700c wheels, stems, 650b Pari Moto tires, seat post; free headlights.

[Julian Westerhout]

The lights have been claimed -- lots of responses on those -- everyone 
loves free!   

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 12:08:08 PM UTC-5, Marty Gierke, 
Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 12:22:52 PM UTC-4, Julian Westerhout 
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry -- forgot the photo link!https://flic.kr/s/aHsmRRmZ15
>>
>> PM Sent for the lights. 
>>>>
>>>  
>>
>>> Set of Schmidt E6 primary and secondary headlights — halogen. Free for 
>>>> cost of shipping. No mounts. 
>>>>
>>>> Marty
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 700c wheels, stems, 650b Pari Moto tires, seat post; free headlights.

[Julian Westerhout]

Sorry -- forgot the photo link!https://flic.kr/s/aHsmRRmZ15

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 11:17:38 AM UTC-5, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> For Sale: 
>
> 40 hole front wheel. Phil Wood hub, Shimano skewer, Mavic T520 Rim, Good 
> condition. $100
>
> Set of 32 hole Shimano 105 hubs, H + plus Son TB14 Polished Silver - rims, 
> DT spokes, FSA rim strips. These wheels are brand new —never been on a 
> bike. I was going to use them on my new Rambouillet, but decided to go 
> Campy on that build instead.  $240
>
> Set of Schmidt E6 primary and secondary headlights — halogen. Free for 
> cost of shipping. No mounts. 
>
> 75mm 26.0 Nitto stem , some scratches, plus scotch tape.   $15
>
> 90mm 25.4 Nitto stem good user condition   $10
>
> 85mm 26.0 Nitto stem with scratches.  $15
>
> 85mm 26.0 Cinelli stem - Nice condition $25
>
> Pair of Panaracer Pacenti Pari Moto 650b x 42 tires, tan wall. Brand new. 
> These are very nice tires, but I’ve decided they’re a bit light for use on 
> our tandem, which is my only 65b bike at the moment. $60 for the pair 
>
> Thomsen Elite 27.4 x 300 seat post silver. Scratches on bottom 2+ inches, 
> otherwise pristine. $40
>
> All prices do not include shipping. 
>
> Paypal preferred. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

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[RBW] FS: 700c wheels, stems, 650b Pari Moto tires, seat post; free headlights.

[Julian Westerhout]

For Sale: 

40 hole front wheel. Phil Wood hub, Shimano skewer, Mavic T520 Rim, Good 
condition. $100

Set of 32 hole Shimano 105 hubs, H + plus Son TB14 Polished Silver - rims, 
DT spokes, FSA rim strips. These wheels are brand new —never been on a 
bike. I was going to use them on my new Rambouillet, but decided to go 
Campy on that build instead.  $240

Set of Schmidt E6 primary and secondary headlights — halogen. Free for cost 
of shipping. No mounts. 

75mm 26.0 Nitto stem , some scratches, plus scotch tape.   $15

90mm 25.4 Nitto stem good user condition   $10

85mm 26.0 Nitto stem with scratches.  $15

85mm 26.0 Cinelli stem - Nice condition $25

Pair of Panaracer Pacenti Pari Moto 650b x 42 tires, tan wall. Brand new. 
These are very nice tires, but I’ve decided they’re a bit light for use on 
our tandem, which is my only 65b bike at the moment. $60 for the pair 

Thomsen Elite 27.4 x 300 seat post silver. Scratches on bottom 2+ inches, 
otherwise pristine. $40

All prices do not include shipping. 

Paypal preferred. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

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[RBW] Re: Leah’s Raspberry Platypus: It’s here and it’s lovely!

[Julian Westerhout]

Hooray!  It looks even better than in the Riv photos1 


Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 8:11:57 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Finally, finally I have the Rivendell mixte I’ve longed for. It’s really 
> here. It’s in pieces, but it’s HERE! My preferred medium is words, but 
> today I’ll let 2 videos tell you the story of the RaspberryRiv’s arrival. 
> The format works if I do this after my initial post, so look for the 2nd 
> and 3rd posts for the 2 videos I’ll be including. For now, here’s one 
> photo. (The photos aren’t filtered - it’s just how the paint appears in 
> various lighting.) 
>
> I cannot wait to get the wheels and dyno and make the appointment for 
> assembly. Really exciting! Thanks for coming along on my journey. I always 
> say it, but it’s true - this is richer with you all here.
>
> Warmly,
> Leah
>
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[RBW] Re: 71cm Homer for sale!?

[Julian Westerhout]

Wow!  That is really a tall bike -- makes my 67-68 cm bikes look puny!   
 ;) 

A decent Riv-standard build, with a few minor cosmetic issues -- at a $3750 
ask I think the seller is perhaps a bit too ambitious, but on the other 
hand 71 cm frames are not exactly common, so...

I book marked it out of curiosity, but like Kai, this one will not find a 
home with me. 


Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 


On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 11:23:07 PM UTC-5, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:
>
> I want this very much. Not mine, probably never will be...
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-71-cm-Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-Country-Gravel-Bike-for-sale/264909112568?hash=item3dadd044f8:g:ogkAAOSwrUtfkdRP
> -Kai
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Want to Buy or Trade for Brown Riv back o bike bags (set) and Steiner headset tool

[Julian Westerhout]

Mark, 

I managed to snag one on the second round of these -- it is a truly lovely 
tool that works extremely well. I had a home made headset press made with 
large washers, nuts, and all thread, which was functional but finicky. It 
is now at my local co-op -- I donated it. I've used the Stein on two 
headsets so far...Wow!   It is worth the wait. Sooner or later supply 
will catch up with demand, or you'll just happen to be on the Riv site when 
they get restocked or juat after (which is what happened to me). 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-5, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> Holy Cow. I missed out on the Head set tool again. Sold out. I even signed 
> up for the email alert, never got one, just the mass newsletter announcing 
> they were back in stock, but did not see it until after work and...gone.
>
> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 2:19:09 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have twiced missed out on the head set tool Rivendell is selling. If 
>> you have one and maybe having second thoughts, I would love to buy it. I 
>> have a few builds coming up where I will need it. Despite being on the 
>> notification email, the instagram feed, and the newsletter, I have missed 
>> it twice. I think they've sold out both times within a couple of hours.
>>
>> I know, these are out there, but I've seen it work before! Please reply 
>> off list. Thanks!
>>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Brooks B17 black saddle

[Julian Westerhout]

As the title says -- I'm looking for a decent, need not be perfect, but 
lots of life left in it black B17 saddle. 

Let me know what you've got and what you want for it. 

Thanks, 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

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[RBW] Re: A brand new Rambouillet made its way to my house...

[Julian Westerhout]

I spent a decade in Durango, Co, but the midwest where I now live is bereft 
of mountains -- we have a few river bluffs, but it is not the same   :) 
We do have grand sunsets, though...

That combo on your Ram looks good. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 6:29:21 PM UTC-5, Michael Cyr wrote:
>
> Yes, sir. Analog Stem and Salsa Cowchipper Bars. Most of the backgrounds 
> in Vermont (and stems!) are beautiful! 
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 7:00:46 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Michael, it looks great, and nice background! 
>>
>> Is that an Analog stem? 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 1:44:31 PM UTC-5, Michael Cyr wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice find! 
>>>
>>> I too found a Rambouillet this summer which had sat unused for 3+ years, 
>>> and seemed barely used beyond that. The seller said he was happy to "see it 
>>> moving again". New bars, new stem, new tries and not much else has had it 
>>> cranking it out the miles this fall. My first Rivendell and a terrific ride.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4180.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 8:42:04 AM UTC-4 stevef wrote:
>>>
>>>> A NOS creamsicle Rambly?  Holy smokes, what a find.
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 10:42:31 AM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's a mystery to me as well. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sorting through the parts stash right now to see what I'll need 
>>>>> to buy. It will be built soon-ish, likely by the new year at the latest.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, the original owner might have had similar intentions 15 
>>>>> years ago ...   I wanted to ask what happened, but somehow it did not 
>>>>> seem 
>>>>> appropriate, especially as he waffled a bit on whether or not he really 
>>>>> wanted to sell it. :0
>>>>>
>>>>> Julian Westerhout
>>>>> Bloomington, IL 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 8:21:49 PM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What the heck how do people not build a frame up in 15 years.  I can 
>>>>>> barely wait a weekend when I buy one. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great buy. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: A brand new Rambouillet made its way to my house...

[Julian Westerhout]

Michael, it looks great, and nice background! 

Is that an Analog stem? 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 1:44:31 PM UTC-5, Michael Cyr wrote:
>
> Nice find! 
>
> I too found a Rambouillet this summer which had sat unused for 3+ years, 
> and seemed barely used beyond that. The seller said he was happy to "see it 
> moving again". New bars, new stem, new tries and not much else has had it 
> cranking it out the miles this fall. My first Rivendell and a terrific ride.
>
>
>
> [image: IMG_4180.jpeg]
>
> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 8:42:04 AM UTC-4 stevef wrote:
>
>> A NOS creamsicle Rambly?  Holy smokes, what a find.
>>
>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 10:42:31 AM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> That's a mystery to me as well. 
>>>
>>> I am sorting through the parts stash right now to see what I'll need to 
>>> buy. It will be built soon-ish, likely by the new year at the latest.  
>>>
>>> Of course, the original owner might have had similar intentions 15 years 
>>> ago ...   I wanted to ask what happened, but somehow it did not seem 
>>> appropriate, especially as he waffled a bit on whether or not he really 
>>> wanted to sell it. :0
>>>
>>> Julian Westerhout
>>> Bloomington, IL 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 8:21:49 PM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What the heck how do people not build a frame up in 15 years.  I can 
>>>> barely wait a weekend when I buy one. 
>>>>
>>>> Great buy. 
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: A brand new Rambouillet made its way to my house...

[Julian Westerhout]

Mike, 

I ry to keep my parts stash moderately well organized, but somehow things 
still seem to wander into odd boxes. I discovered a set of bar end shifters 
I forgot I had while searching for parts this weekend -- they were in the 
brake levers bin. Into the Ram parts pile they went. 

I think I have most of the parts I'll need aside from handlebars. Need a 
set of Nitto Noodles in a 48. 

Congratulations on your acquisition, build, and ride. Makes we want to 
hurry up on mine! 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 1:57:32 PM UTC-5, Mike Godwin wrote:
>
> Must be in the air Julian
>
> I grabbed a creamcycle version too, 62 cm a little more than a week ago.  
> Even though it had been through 2 other owners, it looks new after all 
> these years. I had all parts on hand except a stem, so a fellow ibob 
> offered one up and is the mail. Rummaging around for cable housing, viola, 
> a Nitto Pearl way in the back and it is together with two rides over the 
> weekend. This replaced Ram 005 I sold 6 years ago. It was a 61 cm 
> prototype. The 62 fits nicer for some reason. 
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 1:42:12 PM UTC-7, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
>> About a year and a quarter ago I sold my blue and white 68 cm Rambouillet 
>> frame, having bought Will's 67 cm AHH, which I enjoy very much. 
>>
>> Then this week this brand new in the box, bought by the seller from 
>> Rivendell in 2005 but never built 68 cm Orange Rambouillet frame became 
>> available within a reasonable drive from me, and I could not resist, so a 
>> Ram is back among my assembly of Rivendells. 
>>
>> My bicycle cup runneth over.   :) 
>>
>> Photo is of frame and fork in front of the seller's house. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: A brand new Rambouillet made its way to my house...

[Julian Westerhout]

That's a mystery to me as well. 

I am sorting through the parts stash right now to see what I'll need to 
buy. It will be built soon-ish, likely by the new year at the latest.  

Of course, the original owner might have had similar intentions 15 years 
ago ...   I wanted to ask what happened, but somehow it did not seem 
appropriate, especially as he waffled a bit on whether or not he really 
wanted to sell it. :0

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 





On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 8:21:49 PM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> What the heck how do people not build a frame up in 15 years.  I can 
> barely wait a weekend when I buy one. 
>
> Great buy. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: KOMA bike light or similar?

[Julian Westerhout]

The Aluma-lites are quite similar, and come in a variety of body colors. 

Rear:   https://tinyurl.com/y3kz92g4

Set of front and back: https://tinyurl.com/y65v4cfv


Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 11:55:05 AM UTC-5, Ray wrote:
>
> Apologies if this is off-topic, but I thought since Riv and Blue Lug are 
> so closely tied, it might be appropriate.
>
> Blue Lug recently advertised these KOMA lights that they are selling on 
> the global site: 
> https://global.bluelug.com/bl-select-koma-light-rear-black.html
>
> I really appreciate the simple design and the concept. I've found that 
> most bike tail lights attach to the seatpost. This doesn't work for me most 
> of the time because I like to use a saddle bag that would cover the light. 
> I know they also make clip-on lights that can attach to the saddle bag, but 
> I also don't love this solution because I've found that the angle of the 
> light can change pretty easily without a more fixed point and doesn't 
> always direct the light the way you might want. 
>
> Anyway, the BL light looks great to me but the shipping cost is just too 
> much to stomach. If anyone knows of other vendors that sell these I'd love 
> to find them, but I suspect these are made specifically for BL as my 
> searching hasn't returned them anywhere else. I was wondering if any of you 
> knew of something similar or if you've found another solution?
>
> Thanks!
> Ray
>

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[RBW] Re: Who is using bike lights?

[Julian Westerhout]

Joel, 

Glad they were only close calls!   :( 

I use a dynamo hub with headlight and taillight on at all times on the 
bikes i ride most -- plus a blinky in the back, and an orange safety 
triangle hanging from my commuter's saddle. Pretty dorky, but hopefully 
pretty visible. 

I like dynamos plus LED lights because then I always have lights without 
ever worrying about charging, etc. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 4:55:05 PM UTC-5, Joel wrote:
>
> 2 close calls in one day. My red blinking cateye is useless in daylight. 
>  I a interested in front and back lights to help me be more visible, your 
> thoughts and experiences are welcome.
>
> Thanks 
>
> Joel
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Sackville Trunksack Small - Olive

[Julian Westerhout]

FWIW, the leather trim looks practically new -- I'd say it was very 
unlikely it has seen much rain, never mind having been through a washing 
machine... 


Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 6:10:08 PM UTC-5, Applegate wrote:
>
> I'm interested! My only concern is that it looks like it may have been 
> machine washed (the rough texture of the canvas doesn't look like the new 
> olive bags), which diminishes the weather-proofing of the wax. Do you know 
> if that is the case?
>
> Thank you,
> AA
>
> On Thursday, 6 August 2020 at 08:48:50 UTC-7 Huston wrote:
>
>> Bump and price drop: $70.00, shipping included.
>>
>> On Monday, August 3, 2020 at 6:53:03 PM UTC-4 Huston wrote:
>>
>>> For sale is a used small Sackville Trunksack.  A few signs of use but no 
>>> issues to mention.  Olive color.  I purchased this from a fellow RBW 
>>> member; however, I have a really small front rack, and the attachment 
>>> points on this bag didn't work for my setup.  Should work well with 
>>> standard front racks from Nitto, VO, etc.  Measurements per Riv: 8" long, 
>>> 4.25" wide, 5.5" tall.  $80 (shipping included) via Paypal Friends and 
>>> Family.  
>>>
>>> Photos are available here: 
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1--eTxcO9AW4u4K6TuSrp-9ZK-v1safyJ?usp=sharing.
>>>   
>>> Thanks for looking.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: V-brake to fender clearance on Appaloosa

[Julian Westerhout]

This will not solve your problem now, but Grant is working on a longer 
V-brake -- Will confirmed in an email that it is still in the works, but 
some time off. So someday perhaps you'll be able to order a Silver V-Brake 
with adequate clearance...

Until then this list of V-brake lengths might be useful   
 https://www.gravelbike.com/v-brake-arm-lengths/

As Eric mentioned the Tektro 849AL is the length champion, but is pretty 
scarce. They are available for about $17.50 a set here: 
 
https://hollandbikeshop.com/en-gb/branded-bicycle-parts/contec/contec-bicycle-brakes/contec-brake-set-v-brake/contec-v-brake-br-849al-120mm-arms-silver/
 
  but shipping to CONUS is as much as the brakes!   

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 1:44:58 AM UTC-5, Nick Payne wrote:
>
> I'm building up an Appaloosa, and just fitted some Deore XT M780 v-brakes 
> that I had. At the front, the brake blocks are at about the mid-point of 
> the adjustment slot on the caliper, and the cable run between the arms at 
> the top just clears the arch of the fender when it is mounted to give 
> maximum clearance to the tyre. At the rear, the brake blocks are positioned 
> higher in the slot, which means that the cable doesn't clear the arch of 
> the fender unless I deliberately use a spacer between the fender and 
> seatstay mount point to move the fender closer to the tyre, which I don't 
> want to do. Are there any v-brakes with slightly longer arms than the Deore 
> XT? Alternatively, I suppose I could use cantilever brakes, but I've found 
> in the past that cantilever brakes tend to interfere with using panniers 
> due to the brake arms sticking out. Plus the Appaloosa doesn't have a cable 
> stop at the rear for use with cantilevers.
>
> Nick
>

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[RBW] Re: Two Bike Fridays for Sale

[Julian Westerhout]

Both Bike Fridays are sold. 

Thanks to all, 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, Il 

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 3:18:57 PM UTC-5, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> For Sale — Two Bike Fridays. I am selling these on behalf of the owners — 
> a couple of friends of mine who had plans to do lots of riding on these, 
> but life intervened, and so they’ve mostly sat unused, and are pristine and 
> loaded, ready to go make other riders very happy. Take a look at the photos 
> — these bikes look brand new — I think they have at most a few hundred 
> miles of use.
>
>
> Bike #1:  New World Tourist — red, owner is 6’2” — bike will fit those 
> from about 5’10 to about 6’3” with minimal to no adjustment.  Drivetrain is 
> SRAM Dual drive 3 x 9. This is a 3-speed internal hub and a 9-speed rear 
> derailleur setup that provides a very wide gearing range with a single 
> front chainring. Note that the frame has a braze-on for a front derailleur, 
> so if someone really wanted to they could make this a double or triple up 
> front, too!   :)   Shimano Ultegra crankset with chainguard, Ultegra rear 
> derailleur,  Deore XT V-brakes, Shimano dual-side pedals — platform on one 
> side, SPD on the other. Chris King Headset, BF Split H handlebars. Two 
> water bottle cages.  It has a Thomsen seat post with a Selle Anatomico 
> Titanico saddle, a Detours rear back that clicks on and off of the seat 
> post, a nylon carry bag for use on a bus or car, plus the suitcase that 
> converts into a trailer — a really fantastic system. 
>
>
> Bike # 2: Crusoe — blue — owner is 5’7”,  bike will fit those from about 
> 5’4” to about 5’10” with minimal to no adjustment. Equipped almost 
> identically to the NWT, but with a Terry butterfly saddle — plus a spare 
> Schwalbe marathon tire. It has a Bike Planet cyclometer mounted, but the 
> batteries are dead. One water bottle cage, with room for another. It also 
> comes with a nylon carry bag as well as the suitcase system with trailer 
> transformation ability. 
>
>
> Photos of both bikes are at https://flic.kr/s/aHsmPyEavb
>
>
> Asking $1600 each net plus shipping. Buy one or buy both! My friends want 
> these to be used and loved. Let me know if you have any questions. 
>
>
> Julian Westerhout
>
> Bloomington, IL 
>

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[RBW] Re: HHH ride report

[Julian Westerhout]

Mark, 

We like the HHH a lot. It is indeed a different beast than our Bilenky, 
which is a 650b S coupled drop-bar tourer. The HHH is more upright, and 
better for rides like this one. we also use it in town (going on a bike 
club ice cream ride on it tonight). On the road it still performs 
reasonably well, if not quite as fast as our Bilenky (much of which I put 
down to the riding position), but it has major fun factor. It rides well -- 
I also have a Clem H -- it is roughly analogous. 


It has a Shutter dynamo front hub, a Velocity tandem rear hub, Alex DM24 
rims. Tires are Maxxis Re-Fuse 650 x 2.0 (their mixed labeling) -- they're 
great for a mix of road and generally hard pack/gravel type riding. The 
wheels were supplied by Riv. We were in the first batch -- bought most of 
the parts from Riv, built it up myself. Not too tricky if you're a 
confifdent mechanic. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL

On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 7:31:11 AM UTC-5, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> Looks like a lovely day on the bike, not a bad consolation.
>
> You may have posted this already, but as an experienced tandemist, how are 
> you liking the HHH? I assume the Bilenky is a more traditional road setup 
> with drops? I will be taking possession of a medium HHH shortly. I have a 
> nice 26" Santana that I "converted" to be as HHH-like as possible, with 
> 2.1" tires and Boscos. I'm hoping the HHH takes the easy cruise handling to 
> another, Clem-like level--it's an expensive (and time-consuming) upgrade, 
> and who knows how much longer my son will want to ride attached to dad?!
>
> I should probably start another thread, but can you tell me what hubs, 
> wheels, & tires you are running? Did you build it up yourself? Any tricks I 
> should be aware of? (I have the Riv tandem Silver chainset, some Boscos, 
> not much else) If other HHH owners want to chime in
>
> On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 9:52:52 PM UTC-4, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>>
>> COVID canceled our plan to tour in the UK on our Bilenky tandem this 
>> summer, so in partial compensation today we went for a day ride on the 
>> Illinois and Michigan Canal from Lasalle to Marseilles, Il and back on our 
>> Rivendell HHH -- about 45 miles. Nice ride, even if the path is very poorly 
>> maintained in places -- between Utica and Ottawa the path got rougher and 
>> rougher, then there was a missing bridge which required us to take the 
>> tandem down a muddy bank and wheel it across an 18" wide bridge some kind 
>> sole threw together from some old lumber. We then had to navigate a long 
>> section of limestone mud with running water -- fun! We ate lunch at Tangled 
>> Roots brew pub in Ottawa, IL (Yum!) and avoided the worst stretches of the 
>> path on the return by taking the road for 5 miles. A good day out... even 
>> if it isn't quite Cornwall, the British Peak District or Scotland!
>>
>> Photos here https://flic.kr/s/aHsmPzWJoy   sine Google Groups tells me i 
>> can't upload them into the message for some reason. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] HHH ride report

[Julian Westerhout]

That's a Northern Water Snake. Harmless, but looks a bit like a 
Cottonmouth, which is not. 

It is a pretty corridor along the Illinois River in the middle of 
agricultural lands. It passes through a number of small towns from the 
1900s, which have nice old downtowns that are still semi-vibrant. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL


On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 8:54:41 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Looks gorgeous! Someone from England would probably love to go here on 
> vacation.
>
> What kind of snake is that!?
>
> --Eric Norris
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> On Jul 22, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Julian Westerhout  > wrote:
>
> COVID canceled our plan to tour in the UK on our Bilenky tandem this 
> summer, so in partial compensation today we went for a day ride on the 
> Illinois and Michigan Canal from Lasalle to Marseilles, Il and back on our 
> Rivendell HHH -- about 45 miles. Nice ride, even if the path is very poorly 
> maintained in places -- between Utica and Ottawa the path got rougher and 
> rougher, then there was a missing bridge which required us to take the 
> tandem down a muddy bank and wheel it across an 18" wide bridge some kind 
> sole threw together from some old lumber. We then had to navigate a long 
> section of limestone mud with running water -- fun! We ate lunch at Tangled 
> Roots brew pub in Ottawa, IL (Yum!) and avoided the worst stretches of the 
> path on the return by taking the road for 5 miles. A good day out... even 
> if it isn't quite Cornwall, the British Peak District or Scotland!
>
> Photos here https://flic.kr/s/aHsmPzWJoy   sine Google Groups tells me i 
> can't upload them into the message for some reason. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
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[RBW] HHH ride report

[Julian Westerhout]

COVID canceled our plan to tour in the UK on our Bilenky tandem this 
summer, so in partial compensation today we went for a day ride on the 
Illinois and Michigan Canal from Lasalle to Marseilles, Il and back on our 
Rivendell HHH -- about 45 miles. Nice ride, even if the path is very poorly 
maintained in places -- between Utica and Ottawa the path got rougher and 
rougher, then there was a missing bridge which required us to take the 
tandem down a muddy bank and wheel it across an 18" wide bridge some kind 
sole threw together from some old lumber. We then had to navigate a long 
section of limestone mud with running water -- fun! We ate lunch at Tangled 
Roots brew pub in Ottawa, IL (Yum!) and avoided the worst stretches of the 
path on the return by taking the road for 5 miles. A good day out... even 
if it isn't quite Cornwall, the British Peak District or Scotland!

Photos here https://flic.kr/s/aHsmPzWJoy   sine Google Groups tells me i 
can't upload them into the message for some reason. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

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Re: [RBW] Two Bike Fridays for Sale

[Julian Westerhout]

Hello, 

Horizontally between the middle of the two vertical-ish tubes (a sort of 
top-tube length, but lower?)? That’s a very weird way to measure!  It is 
definitely a larger frame. Let me know if i’ve properly understood where to 
measure and i’ll do so. One of the photos has the deat tube withj a 
measuring tape. 

Julian. 

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 3:23:18 PM UTC-5, Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>
> Nice bikes. The NWT is of interest to me. It must be a Large (58cm) at 
> least?  BF measures size from the center of stem riser to the center of 
> seat mast using a level.
> Thanks!
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 3:19 PM Julian Westerhout  > wrote:
>
>> For Sale — Two Bike Fridays. I am selling these on behalf of the owners — 
>> a couple of friends of mine who had plans to do lots of riding on these, 
>> but life intervened, and so they’ve mostly sat unused, and are pristine and 
>> loaded, ready to go make other riders very happy. Take a look at the photos 
>> — these bikes look brand new — I think they have at most a few hundred 
>> miles of use.
>>
>>
>> Bike #1:  New World Tourist — red, owner is 6’2” — bike will fit those 
>> from about 5’10 to about 6’3” with minimal to no adjustment.  Drivetrain is 
>> SRAM Dual drive 3 x 9. This is a 3-speed internal hub and a 9-speed rear 
>> derailleur setup that provides a very wide gearing range with a single 
>> front chainring. Note that the frame has a braze-on for a front derailleur, 
>> so if someone really wanted to they could make this a double or triple up 
>> front, too!   :)   Shimano Ultegra crankset with chainguard, Ultegra rear 
>> derailleur,  Deore XT V-brakes, Shimano dual-side pedals — platform on one 
>> side, SPD on the other. Chris King Headset, BF Split H handlebars. Two 
>> water bottle cages.  It has a Thomsen seat post with a Selle Anatomico 
>> Titanico saddle, a Detours rear back that clicks on and off of the seat 
>> post, a nylon carry bag for use on a bus or car, plus the suitcase that 
>> converts into a trailer — a really fantastic system. 
>>
>>
>> Bike # 2: Crusoe — blue — owner is 5’7”,  bike will fit those from about 
>> 5’4” to about 5’10” with minimal to no adjustment. Equipped almost 
>> identically to the NWT, but with a Terry butterfly saddle — plus a spare 
>> Schwalbe marathon tire. It has a Bike Planet cyclometer mounted, but the 
>> batteries are dead. One water bottle cage, with room for another. It also 
>> comes with a nylon carry bag as well as the suitcase system with trailer 
>> transformation ability. 
>>
>>
>> Photos of both bikes are at https://flic.kr/s/aHsmPyEavb
>>
>>
>> Asking $1600 each net plus shipping. Buy one or buy both! My friends want 
>> these to be used and loved. Let me know if you have any questions. 
>>
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>>
>> Bloomington, IL 
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