[RBW] Re: 60cm Sam Hillborne for a 6"4 kind of guy

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I’m a 6’8”ish kind of guy, and my old 64 Hillborne was great, but a bit 
small for me. That’d be a fun bike if you can find one, but the odds are 
slim…
Good luck
-Kai

On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 3:02:30 AM UTC-4 Dashiell wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I am thinking about purchasing a 60cm Sam Hillborne frame that has just 
> popped up here in Australia (they are quite rare to come by over here, 
> especially in my size). I was just wanting to know if people think it might 
> be too small for me. I see it's the largest frame size that this run of Sam 
> Hillborne's come in, but I've also seen that Rivendell have made them in 
> 62cm with the double top tube in the past. I have a PBH of 95cm so I'm 
> equiped with some very long legs. I currently ride an old 1991 Dawes Galaxy 
> with 64cm down tube, and even with that i have like 17cm of seat post 
> exposed. Writing this all down now I'm realising its probably going to be 
> way too small for me, but maybe it would work with a looong seat post?
>
> Thanks for your help!
> Dash

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Rambouillet Randonneuring Road Bicycle "pointy lugs" Toyo? Waterford?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Lots of pictures of the same Ram offered in an adjacent post! For less 
money. Weird?
-Kai

On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 6:28:27 PM UTC-4 Jerry Lynn wrote:

> No mine, and no affiliation...
> $1,6999
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/305557298256?itmmeta=01HXFQAW6P602XRR9J2PG63GAH=item4724a25c50:g:mhsAAOSwQPJmPTYG
> [image: 00ram.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet Toyo? with "pointy" lugs

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I think I speak for most when I demand more photos of your radical 
Rambouillet. Build details 樂? 
Thanks for sharing
-Kai
On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 5:54:10 PM UTC-4 MisterMo wrote:

> *$1400 and willing to ship if buyer pays.*
> I believe this is a size 64cm, but it could be a size 62cm. Here again the 
> serial number may tell those who know how to interpret it. The geometry 
> table is posted here: Cyclofiend: RBW: Frame Geometry Archive Info 
> .
>
>  [image: IMG_3512.jpg]
>
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[RBW] Re: Thumb Shifter Advice

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Because of the cable routing, inside mounted thumbshifters must be friction 
because they need to be reversed, left/right. That said, clicks are pretty 
great, you should run the expensive Shimano/Paul stuff, or the less 
expensive Microshift thumbies. And that said, of my three bikes, two are 
friction and also pretty great, but no inside thumbies for want of the 
indexing option should my friction fail (just kidding, about the last 
failing bit, not that other stuff).
-Kai


On Tuesday, April 16, 2024 at 11:50:21 AM UTC-4 tal...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'll be building up one of the new Susies (in green) soon and I'm *debating 
> my thumb-shifter options*. Do you have some advice?
>
> I'll be setting up
>
>- 9-speed Shimano RD (RD-M952)
>- Triple Shimano FD (FD-M953) on a Silver Wide-low double
>- Inside-mount thumb shifters on Sim Works (Nitto) Ramble bars
>- Preferably, indexed shifting for the rear
>
> I know of
>
>- *Microshift*. I've got a lot of miles on their 11-speed thumb 
>shifter on my commuter and I get ghost shifts no matter how much I tweak 
>it. I have a lot fewer miles on their 2/3x9 pair on my 90s mountain bike 
>and they haven't given me trouble. 
>- *Paul Thumbie + Shimano SL-BS77*. Tempting, but expensive. Do you 
>have experience with this setup? Can you compare it with Microshift?
>- *Silver2*. Pretty, but not indexed and I'm a scared wimp. Can you 
>convince me friction shifting is the way to go?
>- *Are there other options* (including used or NOS) I should consider?
>
> Thanks in advance, 
> Aaron
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco MMM build photos

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Nope! Mmmassive it is!! Glad it’s tasting proper trail dirt with those 
knobbies. And so beautifully blue? I thought it was brown!
-Kai

On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:19:52 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> JK, thanks for the clarification Kai, my tired brain couldn't remember 
> what the third m stood for... loving the bike!
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:15:17 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Massive mountain mixte!
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 21:08 Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>
>>> Love it!!!
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:59:50 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wowzers!  That is beautiful, but it’s no MMM…
>>>> WMM or JMM (Will or Jumbo) maybe, but nowheres close to Medium 
>>>> Happy shredding!
>>>> -Kai
>>>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Couple more:
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_6627.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_6629.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_6630.jpg]
>>>>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:27:06 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wanted to share some pics of my (sorta) recently new to me rosco as I 
>>>>>> settle in and keep personalizing it. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I bought this bike from list member Kai back in February I think. I 
>>>>>> really wasn't trying to expand the stable at that moment, but the riv 
>>>>>> mixte 
>>>>>> propaganda had been working on my subconscious and Kai was selling this 
>>>>>> thing a 15 minute ride away, and well, in the end I couldn't help 
>>>>>> myself. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This past week or so I've been diving into a serious bicycle spring 
>>>>>> cleaning strip down /regrease/relube/ wipe off all the winter city scuzz 
>>>>>> /etc.. from my bikes and its been an opportunity to try some new things 
>>>>>> with the rosco, and I'm really liking how its turning out. Just using 
>>>>>> what 
>>>>>> I have around, and stealing some parts from my appaloosa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Couple of my favorite things about this build so far: Got the used 
>>>>>> maxxis tires at the charlotte bike coop for $10 each to see how big o' 
>>>>>> meats this frame can take. Getting a little close to those v brake 
>>>>>> cables.. 
>>>>>> I'll probably drop back down to 2.25s for the day to day, but these big 
>>>>>> ones are fun. And I've had this nos xtr FD sitting in a drawer for a 
>>>>>> couple 
>>>>>> years because I bought it at a swap before I knew to think about the 
>>>>>> clamp 
>>>>>> size and its a 34.9. This bike has a 31.8 tube, and I was able to shim 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> derailer by cutting a plastic 35mm film canister. Very happy thats 
>>>>>> working. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope y'all enjoy taking a gander at the bike:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Build notes:
>>>>>> 60cm Tosco's
>>>>>> old ass oury grips
>>>>>> avid 1.9 Speed dial levers
>>>>>> riv silver 2 thumbies 
>>>>>> nitto 11cm talux
>>>>>> stock fsa headset
>>>>>> stock kalloy seatpost
>>>>>> imperial brooks (gooch cutout)
>>>>>> Avid 2.0 V brakes w/koolstops 
>>>>>> Wheelset: Cliffhangers to SON28 and a Deore
>>>>>> 2.4 tire in the back, 2.5 in the front
>>>>>> Sugino/white industries triple crankset (22/36/44)
>>>>>> mismatchy monarch pedals
>>>>>> XTR M9sumthin FD
>>>>>> XTR Rapid Rise RD
>>>>>> XT 11-34 cassette
>>>>>> one of those blingy gold kmc chains
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: IMG_6619.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: IMG_6622.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco MMM build photos

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Wowzers!  That is beautiful, but it’s no MMM…
WMM or JMM (Will or Jumbo) maybe, but nowheres close to Medium 
Happy shredding!
-Kai
On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> Couple more:
>
> [image: IMG_6627.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6629.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6630.jpg]
> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:27:06 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> Wanted to share some pics of my (sorta) recently new to me rosco as I 
>> settle in and keep personalizing it. 
>>
>> I bought this bike from list member Kai back in February I think. I 
>> really wasn't trying to expand the stable at that moment, but the riv mixte 
>> propaganda had been working on my subconscious and Kai was selling this 
>> thing a 15 minute ride away, and well, in the end I couldn't help myself. 
>>
>> This past week or so I've been diving into a serious bicycle spring 
>> cleaning strip down /regrease/relube/ wipe off all the winter city scuzz 
>> /etc.. from my bikes and its been an opportunity to try some new things 
>> with the rosco, and I'm really liking how its turning out. Just using what 
>> I have around, and stealing some parts from my appaloosa.
>>
>> Couple of my favorite things about this build so far: Got the used maxxis 
>> tires at the charlotte bike coop for $10 each to see how big o' meats this 
>> frame can take. Getting a little close to those v brake cables.. I'll 
>> probably drop back down to 2.25s for the day to day, but these big ones are 
>> fun. And I've had this nos xtr FD sitting in a drawer for a couple years 
>> because I bought it at a swap before I knew to think about the clamp size 
>> and its a 34.9. This bike has a 31.8 tube, and I was able to shim the 
>> derailer by cutting a plastic 35mm film canister. Very happy thats working. 
>>
>> Hope y'all enjoy taking a gander at the bike:
>>
>> Build notes:
>> 60cm Tosco's
>> old ass oury grips
>> avid 1.9 Speed dial levers
>> riv silver 2 thumbies 
>> nitto 11cm talux
>> stock fsa headset
>> stock kalloy seatpost
>> imperial brooks (gooch cutout)
>> Avid 2.0 V brakes w/koolstops 
>> Wheelset: Cliffhangers to SON28 and a Deore
>> 2.4 tire in the back, 2.5 in the front
>> Sugino/white industries triple crankset (22/36/44)
>> mismatchy monarch pedals
>> XTR M9sumthin FD
>> XTR Rapid Rise RD
>> XT 11-34 cassette
>> one of those blingy gold kmc chains
>>
>> [image: IMG_6619.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_6622.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Ram Soon to Be For Sale by My Neighbor

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Nice one!
Are those bars wooden?
-Kai

On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 9:52:23 AM UTC-4 Steven Seelig wrote:

> I've got nothing more than a single photo.  I just bought from this couple 
> a 56cm Ram and now the husband is selling his 58cm.  Nice folks who are 
> avid cyclists thinning the herd.
>
> My guess is that the components are stock from when the bike was purchased 
> from Rivendell.  That is how my bike is set up.  Awaiting more photos and 
> an asking price.
>
> All parties live in the District of Columbia.  Lemme know if you are 
> interested.[image: Resized_Resized_20240412_155400.jpeg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question about rear brake cable housing routing with low friction on a Clem

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

..and sweet fenders they are, can’t blame you for sticking with what works. 
What’s the science behind brake noodles anyways? 
I know I need them to route to my V-brakes, otherwise I’d have a mess of 
housing sticking out the side of my bike, and I’ve used them to route 
friction shifters out of the way of front bags with much success, but I 
always thought there was a price to pay with slightly more friction in the 
system,  not less. 
Obviously if it works, great, but if it works, why are we all not using 
noodles to route cables any old way we’d like? 
Thoughts? Proofs? Anybody using a noodle in an indexed shifting system have 
a story?
Thanks
-Kai


On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 12:59:40 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Kai -
>
> I thank-you for the suggestion of using V-brakes. I am staying with my Dia 
> Compe 980 cantilever brakes that clear without question my Honjo 65 Flat 
> fenders. I have no problems with adjusting them.
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 7:14 AM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
>> Speaking of extraneous gizmos, how about losing the cantilever brakes and 
>> going with a V-brake? Cantilevers are cool, and they clear fenders better, 
>> and they’re fun to problem solve, but linear pull brakes are so very much 
>> great and easy.
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 7:56:44 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Personally, I’d leave as-is. Aesthetically, I wouldn’t want another 
>>> unsightly, unnecessary piece of hardware detracting from that beautiful 
>>> seat lug and already perfectly functional binder bolt. But then again, some 
>>> people enjoy adding extraneous gizmos to their bikes. 
>>>
>>> Brian 
>>> Lexington KY
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question about rear brake cable housing routing with low friction on a Clem

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Speaking of extraneous gizmos, how about losing the cantilever brakes and 
going with a V-brake? Cantilevers are cool, and they clear fenders better, 
and they’re fun to problem solve, but linear pull brakes are so very much 
great and easy.
-Kai

On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 7:56:44 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Personally, I’d leave as-is. Aesthetically, I wouldn’t want another 
> unsightly, unnecessary piece of hardware detracting from that beautiful 
> seat lug and already perfectly functional binder bolt. But then again, some 
> people enjoy adding extraneous gizmos to their bikes.
>
> Brian
> Lexington KY

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[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I rode my quickbeam with a 69-70 gear inch drivetrain. I had a 16/19 white 
industries freewheel but never ran it on the 19…
-Kai

On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 4:06:32 PM UTC-5 David wrote:

> Very creative. Personally looking for simpler, streamlined inspiration, 
> but these are nice options you're running.
>
> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I run a Riv Silver triple with 40/37/34 chainrings on my Quickbeam.  I 
>> modified a rare and unusual Shimano cassette hub to fit 120 OLD.  On that I 
>> run three Problem Solvers cassette cogs at 16/19/22.  As a result I have 
>> three single speed "gears" with three chain positions, all with the same 
>> wheel position
>>
>> 34x22 is my climbing gear
>> 37x19 is my mellow cruising town gear
>> 40x16 is my high gear
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 12:21:08 PM UTC-8 David wrote:
>>
>>> What are your drivetrain specs? Cranks, chainrings, etc.  Simpleones, 
>>> too, if that's what you're riding. It appears Riv doesn't offer the classic 
>>> single speed crankset anymore.
>>
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[RBW] Re: fs 54.5 atlantis complete w lots of extras

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Nice bike, good price. At first I was confused by what I saw at the front 
brake area, but after some figuring I’m really liking what King Kog did 
with that floating  
bit of housing next to the front bag. Smart slidey! 
If only it were a 68…
Good luck with the sale
-Kai

On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 1:15:11 PM UTC-5 chasenl...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-atlantis-545/7720282826.html
>
> riv ppl in nyc i am selling my bike cause i made it too perfect and i 
> never wanna ride it.
> local only pls.
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[RBW] Re: Handling (pavement cornering) of Schwalbe G One Speed 622X60 vs RH Antelope Hill (el) vs Schwalbe Big One (el)

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I bought four Big Ones at $19 a piece, Patrick bought the rest. They’re 
very thin. The new tubeless ready G ones are way more stable at lower 
pressures, and still relatively inexpensive . No bigger than 55 for me 
lately.
-Kai

On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 7:54:01 PM UTC-5 Will Boericke wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> As far as I can tell, you are the world expert on the Big One.  I've never 
> heard of anyone else riding them, and before you talked about them, I 
> didn't know they existed.  I'd be interested to see who else is in the Big 
> One support group.
>
> Wil near Boston, with only Small Ones
>
> On Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 3:43:17 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Asking here as well as on boblist.
>>
>> I may resolve the fender/knobs/sand float dilemma by eliminating the knob 
>> variable and get max sand float under fenders at the expense of cornering 
>> security with 60 mm slicks.
>>
>> The Big Ones are notorious for "wallow" in turns; this seems to be an 
>> inseparable quality rather than the result of improper pressure. They're 
>> delightful tires otherwise (and the "wallow" is not horrible, just 
>> noticeable).
>>
>> Query to those who have ridden 1 or some or all: How do the AH and the GO 
>> corner on pavement in comparison to the BO?
>>
>> I'm almost tempted by the Big Apple but it's twice the weight of some of 
>> these others. (OTOH I wouldn't need sealant!)
>>
>> In other news, ordered up a pair of 62 2X "Silver" Velocity Blunt SS's 
>> for the second, sand-tire wheelset for the Matthews "road bike for dirt." 
>> $176 each! But they're wonderful rims: very, very light and apparently very 
>> strong, and at 27 mm IW perfect for 60s as well as the 50 mm Somas on the 
>> existing wheelset.
>>
>> Query: ISO/WTT/WTB: 11 sp XT rear 6-bolt hub, 32 hole, black, QR axle; 
>> 14-25 or close to this 10 sp Shimano-type cassette.
>>
>> Also might want a *used* black SP PD 8 6-bolt, QR axle hub, but would 
>> have to be both in good condition and significantly discounted over new, 
>> otherwise would want warranty protection.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -- 
>>
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

The one that got away…
My first Riv, a 64, purchased after convincing myself I didn’t need a 68 
Bombadil for another grand and change. I loved it, I broke it, and was 
devastated. Happily, I got to talk to Richard Schwinn about getting it 
fixed!, which was awesome. And so it came back to me, better than new, but 
I sold it for a song to a nice fella who uses it a lot.(btw, I’d buy it 
back in a heartbeat!螺)
Link to google album-
https://goo.gl/photos/XnXmgmEch5tkDNBQA 
-Kai

On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 1:35:39 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> After seeing various Sam owners pictures here and there on various threads 
> I thought I would start a thread dedicated to the versatile Sam's.
>
> Perhaps such a thread already exists?
>
> No worries if it does and perhaps someone could post a link if there is 
> one out there.
>
> Here is my Sam with upright bars.
>
> I'm an older Riv owner , almost 74 and still love riding and working on 
> bikes.
>
> I managed just over 2700 miles in 2023 ( not all on the Sam)
>  and hope to top that in 2024 the Good Lord willing.
>
> My bars are the  Sunlite North Road alloy version.
> ( They also have a steel version)
> I like these North Roads so much I have them on multiple bikes 
>
> I have a very tall stem column , (forget the brand)
> and a thread less stem, Origin8 I think.
> I need the bars way up for the old back.
> It works well for me and I've done up to 73 miles on it set up this way.
>
> I have a triple crank (need the granny to get up hills).
>  I'm using the more 
> modern Dia Compe thumb shifters, 
> Shimano derailers, 
> Tektro 559 brake calipers, 
> Velocity Dyad rims / Deore hubs wheelset and Soma Supple Vitesse EX tires 
> in a 700x42.
>
> I do recommend these tires as they are supple, seem to roll fast and 
> smooth and are relatively light for a tire this size at 380g's. No flats in 
> guessing 600 or so miles.
>
> The tan saddle is an Origin8 Comfort in about the same width as a B17. 
> It works well for me. I like the look and it's only about $40.
>
> I like working on bikes and built my Sam up myself.
>
> Safe riding to all.
>
> Paul in Dallas, TX area
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: RoadeoRosa teaser

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Maybe not the best, but pretty good considering that whole psycho-killer 
business..  And the celebrity one is most likely to see on an N-YC bike 
path! 
So yeah, good article, better bike.
-Kai

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 6:15:06 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Thanks for the article, Kai.  It wasn't the best-written article I have 
> ever read, but there is a lot of fun cultural history content in there.  
>
> Pink for the win!
>
> BL in EC
> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 5:57:15 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> That’s a good bike, and a great color. The lawyer lips were lost in 
>> transit? Or that’s a semi custom option?
>> Here’s a great essay by David Byrne on Pink, if you’re interested- 
>> https://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/11/byrne.php
>> Enjoy!
>> -Kai
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 5:22:34 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Rick at D tells me he'll be delivering my Roadeo frame set to 
>>> Rivendell HQ next week sometime.  He gave me a sneak peek at my 
>>> color-matched Rene Herse/Honjo fenders.  Here they are:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53519732639/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>>
>>> It's getting real
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: RoadeoRosa teaser

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That’s a good bike, and a great color. The lawyer lips were lost in 
transit? Or that’s a semi custom option?
Here’s a great essay by David Byrne on Pink, if you’re 
interested- https://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/11/byrne.php
Enjoy!
-Kai


On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 5:22:34 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Rick at D tells me he'll be delivering my Roadeo frame set to Rivendell 
> HQ next week sometime.  He gave me a sneak peek at my color-matched Rene 
> Herse/Honjo fenders.  Here they are:
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53519732639/in/album-72177720313109003/
>
> It's getting real
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: TA Specialites Cranks at Analog Cycles

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

well said. Something in that VT water…
-Kai

On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 2:52:53 PM UTC-5 Glen wrote:

> Do we really need to disparage a longtime supporter and contributor of 
> this list? Peter has been a pioneer of everything this list (& the iBob 
> list) supports. 
>
> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 11:04:09 AM UTC-7 CMR wrote:
>
>> Consider the $5 supporting good people, and also saving a phone call to 
>> place an order with Peter White v. an easy click for Analog.
>>
>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 7:57:55 AM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> A couple of thoughts on this. 
>>>
>>> 1) These cranks are gorgeous. Seeing them in person will make you lust 
>>> after them
>>> 2) Analog's price includes labor to assemble the crankset
>>> 3) If you buy these why not buy them from great people at one of the 
>>> best shops in the US. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 8:59:25 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I added up the exact parts Analog uses from the PW site and it came out 
 $5 more. Analog does all of the assembly as well which is not a huge deal 
 but even small bits of time are worth something. So Analog has the better 
 deal by a tiny amount.

 I put a NOS TA Zephyr on my Proto-Gallop. Such a beautiful, 
 lightweight,  and well made crank. It was replaced by TA with the Carmina 
 which is equally nice but I preferred the Zephyr. So I recommend that 
 product.



 On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 8:43:43 AM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> That's some fuzzy math. ;-) The Analog price seems to be in line with 
> the market. Although, I think the Rivendell Silver cranksets are a good 
> value for an excellent product.
> Doug
>
> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 8:20:24 AM UTC-5 Andy Beichler wrote:
>
>> When I add the prices you listed for Peter White's site, I get a $10 
>> savings.  Did I misread your post?
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 1:49:36 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> When I look at Peter White's website, he sells a pair of Carmina 
>>> crankarms for $243, spider for $92, and a pair of TA chainrings will 
>>> set 
>>> you back another $100 or so. That's around a $250 saving over the 
>>> Analog 
>>> Cycles price...
>>>
>>> Nick Payne
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Brooks 5J9 Leather Bicycle Saddle

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

It’s a B72, the 5J9 numbers are a serial. very rare, maybe.
-Kai


On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 10:01:30 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> This Brooks 5J9 Leather Bicycle Saddle is currently on eBay. I personally 
> have never seen this model of saddle before. The seller has no background 
> information on it. 
>
> Does anyone herein have any information about this saddle ?
>
> I am not interested in purchasing the saddle. I am just curious about it. 
> It is most definitely for upright riding. 
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/156031671538?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200818143230%26meid%3D89b1b345406340aeb3f6d1efbd7ba20d%26pid%3D101224%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D296193610948%26itm%3D156031671538%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4429486%26algv%3DDefaultOrganicWebV9BertRefreshRanker%26brand%3DBrooks%2BEngland&_trksid=p4429486.c101224.m-1
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> Thank-you.
> Kim Hetzel. 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Jumbo Rosco Bubbe Iditabike

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Thanks GoGo!
And with that, the bike’s sold!
Thanks everyone.
Happy trails to all, and I’ll try to sink the proceeds into bills, but if 
there ends up being a monster Roaduno come April…
-Kai

On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 2:08:18 PM UTC-5 gogou...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> I rode with Kai a few years ago and got to see this piece of rolling art 
> up close…it is very well done and a great bike .
> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 8:48:30 AM UTC-5 ian m wrote:
>
>> You may get one snowy ride in with this weekend's Noreaster
>>
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 5:56:03 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> Killer Kia, just killer!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 3:21:06 PM UTC-5 antc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Flippin' heck, that is one wild build! Any idea on minimum saddle 
>>>> height and max tire size?
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-6 Teague Scott wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh man. I’ve been waiting for the day one of these popped up here. 
>>>>> Alas, now is just not the time for me. Someone is gonna be a lucky dog!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 11:02:37 AM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice build Kai - for sure the wildest Rivendell I've seen yet. Just 
>>>>>> looking at your pics makes me want to go bike packing. Dare I say gnarly 
>>>>>> ?!? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sooner or later  it's gonna snow and you're gonna miss that two 
>>>>>> wheeled pack mule . 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 9:31:47 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beautiful bike!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 11:35:50 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice bike but what size is it?  I only the sizes Riv offers.  I'm 
>>>>>>>> on the short end 47.  When was it built?  Was it a protoype for the 
>>>>>>>> Betty 
>>>>>>>> Foy or Cheviot?
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 7:03:57 PM UTC-5 Mackenzy Albright 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This legitimately might be one of the coolest niche Rivendell 
>>>>>>>>> builds I've seen. *slowly leaves room to avoid impulse decisions* 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 3:15:55 PM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought the day would never come! Really cool bike Kai. I'm 
>>>>>>>>>> sure you'll find it a new home.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 5:33:04 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. 
>>>>>>>>>> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Multiple Roscos and multiple bills aren’t adding up, and ever 
>>>>>>>>>>> since I put it together, it hasn’t snowed. So here for sale is the 
>>>>>>>>>>> bestest bike for the larger folks out there. I think it measures 64 
>>>>>>>>>>> at the 
>>>>>>>>>>> seat tube, but I’ve got a geometry chart somewhere I’ll plug in 
>>>>>>>>>>> here asap. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures
>>>>>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/U18G3VtrhaWFDisWA
>>>>>>>>>>> Some weird rare parts, some not. Heartily patinated racks with 
>>>>>>>>>>> internally wired dynamo lights and handmade wooden fenders (pretty 
>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight actually). Racks and fenders made by me, the front rack 
>>>>>>>>>>> can 
>>>>>>>>>>> carry anything you can get into some panniers, with the rear rack 
>>>>>>>>>>> only ever 
>>>>>>>>>>> having held that light there and the fender steady, as I’m hesitant 
>>>>>>>>>>> to load 
>>>>>>>>>>> up the back of toptubeless frame. 
>>>>>>>>>>> I’m keeping the grips and the seat, but everything else you see 
>>>>>>>>>>> is included. Also included is a new Mavic 319 rim for when you’d 
>>>>>>>>>>> like to 
>>>>>>>>>>> swap out the front. Rear wheel came with my Clem and hasn’t seen 
>>>>>>>>>>> much of 
>>>>>>>>>>> the world.
>>>>>>>>>>> Very rare! Highly collectible?!
>>>>>>>>>>> $2000.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for looking, and happy rolling to all
>>>>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Jumbo Rosco Bubbe Iditabike

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Yeah, I knew putting it up on the block would bring the precipitation… 
still not enough to bring out these Ice Spiker studs. Speaking of which, 
I’ll include some not ridiculously huge spiked tires in the sale, something 
to get it close to its maximum size tire of around 2.4”. The seat height is 
about 73cm for a lowest point possible, probably 88cm in the photos. 
Thanks for all the kind words, and yes, it’s gnarly to the max!
-Kai

On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 8:48:30 AM UTC-5 ian m wrote:

> You may get one snowy ride in with this weekend's Noreaster
>
> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 5:56:03 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:
>
>> Killer Kia, just killer!
>>
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 3:21:06 PM UTC-5 antc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Flippin' heck, that is one wild build! Any idea on minimum saddle height 
>>> and max tire size?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 12:54:49 PM UTC-6 Teague Scott wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh man. I’ve been waiting for the day one of these popped up here. 
>>>> Alas, now is just not the time for me. Someone is gonna be a lucky dog!
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 11:02:37 AM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice build Kai - for sure the wildest Rivendell I've seen yet. Just 
>>>>> looking at your pics makes me want to go bike packing. Dare I say gnarly 
>>>>> ?!? 
>>>>>
>>>>> Sooner or later  it's gonna snow and you're gonna miss that two 
>>>>> wheeled pack mule . 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 9:31:47 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Beautiful bike!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 11:35:50 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice bike but what size is it?  I only the sizes Riv offers.  I'm on 
>>>>>>> the short end 47.  When was it built?  Was it a protoype for the Betty 
>>>>>>> Foy 
>>>>>>> or Cheviot?
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 7:03:57 PM UTC-5 Mackenzy Albright 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This legitimately might be one of the coolest niche Rivendell 
>>>>>>>> builds I've seen. *slowly leaves room to avoid impulse decisions* 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 3:15:55 PM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought the day would never come! Really cool bike Kai. I'm sure 
>>>>>>>>> you'll find it a new home.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 5:33:04 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. 
>>>>>>>>> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Multiple Roscos and multiple bills aren’t adding up, and ever 
>>>>>>>>>> since I put it together, it hasn’t snowed. So here for sale is the 
>>>>>>>>>> bestest bike for the larger folks out there. I think it measures 64 
>>>>>>>>>> at the 
>>>>>>>>>> seat tube, but I’ve got a geometry chart somewhere I’ll plug in here 
>>>>>>>>>> asap. 
>>>>>>>>>> Pictures
>>>>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/U18G3VtrhaWFDisWA
>>>>>>>>>> Some weird rare parts, some not. Heartily patinated racks with 
>>>>>>>>>> internally wired dynamo lights and handmade wooden fenders (pretty 
>>>>>>>>>> lightweight actually). Racks and fenders made by me, the front rack 
>>>>>>>>>> can 
>>>>>>>>>> carry anything you can get into some panniers, with the rear rack 
>>>>>>>>>> only ever 
>>>>>>>>>> having held that light there and the fender steady, as I’m hesitant 
>>>>>>>>>> to load 
>>>>>>>>>> up the back of toptubeless frame. 
>>>>>>>>>> I’m keeping the grips and the seat, but everything else you see 
>>>>>>>>>> is included. Also included is a new Mavic 319 rim for when you’d 
>>>>>>>>>> like to 
>>>>>>>>>> swap out the front. Rear wheel came with my Clem and hasn’t seen 
>>>>>>>>>> much of 
>>>>>>>>>> the world.
>>>>>>>>>> Very rare! Highly collectible?!
>>>>>>>>>> $2000.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for looking, and happy rolling to all
>>>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

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[RBW] FS: Jumbo Rosco Bubbe Iditabike

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Multiple Roscos and multiple bills aren’t adding up, and ever since I put 
it together, it hasn’t snowed. So here for sale is the bestest bike for 
the larger folks out there. I think it measures 64 at the seat tube, but 
I’ve got a geometry chart somewhere I’ll plug in here asap. 
Pictures
https://photos.app.goo.gl/U18G3VtrhaWFDisWA
Some weird rare parts, some not. Heartily patinated racks with internally 
wired dynamo lights and handmade wooden fenders (pretty lightweight 
actually). Racks and fenders made by me, the front rack can carry anything 
you can get into some panniers, with the rear rack only ever having held 
that light there and the fender steady, as I’m hesitant to load up the back 
of toptubeless frame. 
I’m keeping the grips and the seat, but everything else you see is 
included. Also included is a new Mavic 319 rim for when you’d like to swap 
out the front. Rear wheel came with my Clem and hasn’t seen much of the 
world.
Very rare! Highly collectible?!
$2000.
Thanks for looking, and happy rolling to all
-Kai


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[RBW] Re: NYC Riv Ride?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Sounds fun!
The Putnam trail North of Van Cortland is pretty, and ridiculously safe 
with decent enough parking for those carventuring in. 
But I f it’s excitement and real city feels everyone’s craving, maybe a 
“every bridge (with bike access) from the Henry Hudson down to the 
Brooklyn” ride? That’s a fun zipper to zip.
-Kai
On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 1:26:15 PM UTC-5 Caroline Golum wrote:

> Seeing the LA Riv Ride post got me thinking! Anyone in the NYC area 
> interested in a weekend ride this month? It's chilly, but we can handle it!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Homer headbadge

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Science fact-
There’s no finer headbadge in the universe than that of thee Rosco Bubbe.
-Kai
On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 5:24:44 PM UTC-5 Paul M wrote:

> With the green twin top tube Rosco, it was that I just didn't like the 
> rocket ship head badge. With the Homer, I like the head badge design but 
> not the dark blue border. However, I did leave the head badge on my Wolbis.
>
> On Friday, 1 December 2023 at 09:39:25 UTC-8 cjus...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> lol.  As soon as I saw this, I knew you had to be the guy who removed the 
>> head badge on what is now my Green Rosco.
>> On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 10:51:52 AM UTC-6 Paul M wrote:
>>
>>> Sold. Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Friday, 1 December 2023 at 05:34:25 UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>>
 Just removed this head badge from my new A. Homer Hilsen frameset. I 
 like the look of the plain cream-colored head tube contrasting with the 
 mustard frame. Perfect condition. Amazing what you can do with nylon tire 
 irons. $35/shipped. Email me directly. Thanks, Paul in rainy Eugene Oregon.
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Upgrade Update: IT GOES TO 11!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I made it out there once and they were closed due to a bike tour. Certainly 
a good sign
I’ve only heard good things
-Kai

On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 2:13:03 AM UTC-5 joshm...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I'm not familiar with nomad! I'll tell em you sent me! 
>
>
> Josh in NYC 
>
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 3:26 PM Caroline Golum  wrote:
>
>> So for some of you following the convoluted saga of my seized stem, this 
>> epic yarn which began in June has at last concluded with
>>
>> - an un-seized stem, now raised considerably higher
>> - an overhaul tune-up, because why not??
>> - a derailleur/cassette upgrade from 1x10 with a 105 to a 1x11 with an 
>> SLX!
>>
>> Pics here: https://imgur.com/a/IlwRAeI
>>
>> And all courtesy of my dude Damon at Nomad Cycle 
>>  in Queens, NY who I cannot recommend enough. 
>> The man even machines his own parts, he's serious!
>>
>> Had my first few weekends of riding with the new drivetrain/higher stem 
>> set-up and I have to say, it really does feel like a whole new bike. The 
>> biggest difference I noticed was the *ease* - my new rear cassette 
>> is 11-42T, and I really feel like each pedal stroke takes a bigger "bite" 
>> out of the road. I did 25mi. yesterday in that lousy rain, from Central BK 
>> to Bay Ridge to Wburg, and felt like I barely broke a sweat. 
>>
>> This is first time in 13 years I've changed to a MTB derailleur, and now 
>> I'm just kicking myself thinking about how I should've done it sooner. 
>> Ditto for the stem, but chalk it up to my youthful hubris. The modified fit 
>> is not only more comfortable, it feels considerably faster too (even though 
>> we all know it isn't a bike that's fast, it's the rider!). 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Is that Llambo’s cheviot? It is lovely 殺 
-Kai

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:53:30 PM UTC-5 James wrote:

> I know that bike!  Well loved and well riden with a great owner
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:15:15 PM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> I think I recognize that bike. Orange Cheviot in Brooklyn? See him around 
>> from time to time. 
>>
>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:10:33 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_6778_Original.jpeg]Here’s a candidate for beausage of the 
>>> month…
>>> Not for sale as far as I know, so the wrong post, but with all the talk 
>>> of tough lockups, this one stood out to me.
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 2:03:50 PM UTC-5 ericf3 wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Who are you going to believe?? Me, or your own eyes??"  -Groucho
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 11:01, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah it's the seller description that annoys me, I don't appreciate 
>>>>> being told my eyes don't see what I'm clearly seeing. This happens a lot 
>>>>> on 
>>>>> Craigslist. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:26:10 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's some harsh beausage or what the owner calls "regular scuffs". 
>>>>>> YMMV I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 11:02 AM Kim H.  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 52cm CLEM "L"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This one has been abused. I have never seen a Rivendell bicycle with 
>>>>>>> so many scratches. YIKES !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-52cm/7686881119.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-8 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good catch, Reeb! Seemed too good to be true, I deleted my post :o) 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:54:21 PM UTC-5 Ryan Ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is my Bleriot for sale on CL in Seattle or I will pay my LBS 
>>>>>>>>> 150 bucks to box it up right. I bought a bigger Homer instead!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-61cm-rivendell-bleriot/7683878809.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 1:48:24 PM UTC-8 reeb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> could be a scam. same photos from a chicago seller: 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/155871116274?hash=item244aa47bf2:g:Gg4AAOSwQglk~fZ4
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-5 
>>>>>>>>>> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 4.32.02 PM copy.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Clem H
>>>>>>>>>>> 52cm
>>>>>>>>>>> $741
>>>>>>>>>>> New Jersey
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m80573702381
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[RBW] Re: YAHT (Yet Another Handlebar Thread) :D

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Soma “three speed 2” bars are the greatest mustache ever! And they use 
regular brake levers, so you can toss those road levers in the rubbish. And 
run regular thumb shifters, and flip them over if you want. They’re great. 
https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/moustache-ii-bar
-Kai

On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 9:54:02 AM UTC-5 modemm...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I have a 2016 Sam, from the batch of completes that year.  I love the 
> bike, and now that I'm riding a lot more (my wife was gifted with being 
> able to ride again after not being able to for years; she has a '16 Sam 
> too), I swapped bars from the stock (Nitto Noodle) to an Albastache.  
>
> The Noodle was only giving me ONE hand position, on the hoods.  The drops 
> didn't feel usable to me and the flats are just too narrow for my comfort.  
> The hoods position was putting a lot of pressure on the meaty part of my 
> hands behind the thumbs.
>
> The 'Stache fixes that and gives me a lot of hand positions - on the 
> "hoods" (but it's a big flat on the 'Stache of course), behind them, and 
> pretty much all along the rest of the bar.  I like it, but...
>
> I do miss the hand position that only comes from having a drop bar on 
> being on those hoods in that orientation; I just need one that will put 
> them in a spot that doesn't put all the weight on the meaty-hand-part 
> behind the thumbs.
>
> I have to admit I also miss how the bike looks with a drop bar. O_o  I 
> dunno, I guess the bike just "wants" that look, to me.
>
> I'd also like to not run the shifters as barend shifters... So I'd go 
> thumbie or some type of (S DON'T TELL GRANT) brifter. 
>
> The other issue I don't have access to the funds that some others around 
> here seem to. :)  These bikes were EXPENSIVE to us ($2,600 a pop and we've 
> added front and rear racks, fenders, etc.)
>
> Ideas, comments, questions, help, etc, etc?  I'm sure lots around here 
> have Sams and have done this handlebar/cockpit rodeo lots of times!
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Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Thanks Josh!
I’ve got a Rambouillet I like to commute on but I’ve been riding the Clem 
exclusively since I busted my arm skateboarding. The Ram’s set up more 
forward/aggressive, and is less easily shifted into a more upright 
position. Fortunately I get to park my bikes in the back lot of my work, so 
I rest easy through the day. When I need to lock up in the city, I use a 
nice U-lock with a cable that I run through both wheels, seat, and 
handlebars (when I have the bullmooses). The one advantage of riding huge 
bikes is they’re less of a target for thieves, but still, I lock to the 
gills. New museum construction will be pushing me out of my backlot soon, 
so I’ll be locking up every day. The plans call for a small bike parking 
room indoors once complete (2? 3? 4 years?). Once I end up parking inside, 
I’ll worry a very slight bit about condensation. My bikes live in a cold or 
hot garage depending on the weather, so I’m never rolling my warm ferrous 
bicycle into a freezing storm, or worse, my frozen bicycle into a hot 
parking room, a situation I’ll surely be facing. I’ve demanded that they 
put in environmental controls to match the weather outside, but they know 
I’m mostly joking …
-Kai

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 9:37:36 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:

> Kai, 
>
> Love that clem. Do you commute on that regularly and if so what is your 
> lock-up situation? It looks like it's accumulated some real-world working 
> miles, and I love it. I'm currently commuting on a Rohloff Surly but was 
> thinking about switching over to a clem for that purpose. I lock in an open 
> air parking garage that is tucked out of the way, but that can still be 
> accessed by anyone who happens by, making it not the most secure parking 
> place. I may start up a Riv commuter thread on here to see folks commuters 
> and hear about their parking situations. I'd be interested to see how many 
> of us on here use their Rivs as daily transportation and see pics of those 
> rigs. 
>
> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 8:17:26 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Ryan,
>>
>> I love the white grips with your mustard colored Clem.  I once had a 
>> mustard Appaloosa and was never crazy about its color. However, your Clem 
>> has made me change my mind about the color and how the accessories can 
>> really change the look— your Clem is like a well thought out and put 
>> together outfit. 
>>
>> I recently installed light tan ESI grips on my Homer to hopefully match 
>> my head tube, although it turns out that the head tube is more yellowy-tan. 
>> It’s close enough for me although I might go for the aqua color next time 
>> as it’s a fairly close match to my bike frame. 
>>
>> I have the same Ergon white grips as Leah on my mermaid Platy. They were 
>> hard to find and I’m not sure if they’re made any longer. I LOVE her new 
>> grips but I think they might look too heavy on my Platy, which has a more 
>>  lightness vibe. 
>>
>> Roberta 
>> Philadelphia 
>>
>> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 8:59:34 PM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>>
>>> Two Big Bullmoosed Clems, too! 
>>>
>>> I honestly kind of miss my Ergon style grips on the bullmoose though 
>>> (after those I had were donated to another build.)  I eventually do plan to 
>>> swap my round silicone foam grips at some point but not just yet.  Well 
>>> done with the harlequin wrap and I like the orange fenders too.  I haven’t 
>>> had a fendered bike since moving on from a too small Sports 3-speed.  If I 
>>> do add fenders anywhere it’ll either be on the Clem if I move to a more 
>>> slick tire or my replacement Raleigh that ended up a single speed (if I 
>>> could fit 45mm fenders over the 32mm tires under the long reach calipers).  
>>> I’d still like to build an alternate 700c 3-speed wheel with my AW hub 
>>> collecting dust on the shelf for that Raleigh but just haven’t made it a 
>>> priority yet.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to seeing your new rear rack creation!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_7125_Original.jpeg]
>>>> Big Clems in New Jersey!! 
>>>> I need to rewrap my left grip, but you can’t see it in this photo taken 
>>>> earlier today during one of my rare commutes out to Jersey. Working on a 
>>>> new rear rack for this, but it’s moving slow. Rack makeover soon though…
>>>> -Kai
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 2:50:33 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Finally docu

[RBW] Re: Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2023

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Some day…
Have fun!
-Kai

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 4:07:20 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> Hi Patch! see ya there ;-)
>
> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>
>> MEEE - but you knew that :)
>>
>> Patch in Brooklyn
>>
>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 10:16:37 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> Curious if anyone else from the RBW Owners Bunch will be there this 
>>> year. If so, would love to say hello! I'll be on my mermaid Platy.
>>>
>>> Cheers-
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I believe the Craft brand lobster/trigger mitts to be rubbish. They don’t 
let your fingers touch, wasting valuable insulation in between what could 
otherwise be a cozy skin to skin situation. I love my relatively 
inexpensive Toko brand cross-country ski gloves, they allow my fingers to 
cuddle in comfort and perform their bike duties in single digit temps.
I’ve got three pairs of xxl, which will hopefully buy me a decade or so of 
winter bliss…
-Kai

On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 2:49:14 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, all. First, should have specified: No bar mitts or Pogies as I 
> need something that attaches to the hands and can be used on several bikes 
> with drop bars.
>
> From extensive experimenting I'm now convinced that for the teens mittens 
> are best, especially as its easiest to get wool undergloves into them than 
> into 2-finger, 3-finger, or 5-finger gloves. (Peeve: the PIs I bought in 
> 2022 or 2021 have a loose flannelly lining that grabs the material of the 
> wool under gloves you are trying to insert, causing much cussing and 
> gnashing of teeth. The earlier ones, from a year or so earlier had a less 
> grabby lining and I wish I'd kept them, but I thought at the time they were 
> too big.)
>
> The question then is, what mittens let you brake safely and shift 
> precisely?
>
> The Garbage Choppers look very promising, and you say that you have no 
> problems with dt shifters or mtb trigger shifters. That's encouraging. The 
> Outdoor Research nylon cover + boiled wool mitten was exquisitely warm but 
> made it hard to brake, let alone shift -- the mitts were stiff and 
> slippery. But the GCs are made from leather, so presumably much more 
> flexible and more grippy. I have to shift bar end shifters in friction and 
> a Sturmey Archer trigger mounted upside-down on the bottom far end of the 
> right drop bar hook.
>
> Garth: The Kincos look like good value but I'm more skeptical about the 
> warmth of 5-finger gloves compared to mittens. Do you find something like 
> this warm into the teens? Without nitrile undergloves? (I ain't gonna add 
> hassle to my already hasselous winter dressing with tight-fitting rubber 
> gloves!) The prices are certainly good.
>
> I take it this would be the item to get? 
> https://www.amazon.com/Kinco-Lined-Grain-Pigskin-Glove/dp/B01AT2XXX4?th=1
>
> Will: thanks for the Craft link. The price is good, but I think I'll look 
> first for mittens that are less cumbersome than the OR set I had. But link 
> noted for future reference.
>
> Patrick Moore, who will probably have a late-ish model pair of PI lobsters 
> for sale before too long.
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 2:15 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> The fall style thread raises a question about keeping your hands warm in 
>> very cold temperatures (for me, very cold means in the teens F). My fingers 
>> are very sensitive to the cold. I've bought 2 or 3 pairs of PI Lobster 
>> gloves but I've been disappointed in the fit and the warmth. 
>>
>> I've used Outdoor Research heavy nylon mitten sheaths with thick boiled 
>> wool mittens underneath, and those were very warm indeed, but very awkward 
>> to ride in, even on a fixed gear where you have to handle only the brake 
>> levers.
>>
>> Varusteleka currently has a number of mil surplus mittens with separate 
>> thumb, separate thumb and trigger finger, and separate thumb and first 2 
>> fingers. The whole point of mittens is to bundle the fingers together in 
>> one compartment for mutual warmth, so each added finger compartment 
>> sacrifices warmth.
>>
>> Does anyone have thoughts on a glove or a mitten or a system that gives 
>> the best mix of warmth and dexterity? And perhaps some particular gloves or 
>> mittens that fit the bill?
>>
>> Right now, I've got hugely oversized 5-finger gloves under which I can 
>> wear wool knit gloves, under which in turn I can wear silk liners, but this 
>> sort of layer system is cumbersome to put on and take off.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> -
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>> -
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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[RBW] Re: Saddle Height

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Hi Matt, and welcome.
A standard starting height is PBH minus 11. If you’re rocking back and 
forth to keep your feet on the pedals, it’s too high. If it’s not too high, 
maybe it’s too low. Play around.
-Kai

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:46:05 PM UTC-4 Matt wrote:

> Newb here, but long time Rivendell lurker. Chatted to Will today about a 
> Platypus and he mentioned saddle height. My BPH is 83cm (self measured - 
> pretty sure it was to bone but maybe another cm?). Currently riding an 
> ebike, which feels like driving an automatic only worse, so I'm not sure 
> the saddle height is a good indication of what's ideal with a real bicycle. 
> Any thoughts on measuring or extrapolating from PBH? 
>
> btw looking for 55/60cm Platypus, but may well wait for the next stock. 
>
> Lovely group, this. Thanks for the edification.
>

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[RBW] Re: Trade: BoscoMoose Bars for ChocoMoose Bars

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

❤️

On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 2:27:37 PM UTC-6 DeeterDeeter wrote:

> Hello RBW Folks! I'm looking to trade my beloved BoscoMoose bars. Does 
> anyone have a need to raise their rise and let go of their ChocoMoose Bars? 
> Let me know! I've got a Hillborne that is waiting to be rebuilt once the 
> trade is complete! 

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[RBW] Re: New member confession.

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Welcome!!
Sorry to hear you’re slowing down, but glad you’re just slowing down (30 
minutes can be a decent ride). Keep pedaling until the tires fall off! And 
by chance are you very very very tall?
Happy rolling to you
-Kai 

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:47:47 PM UTC-4 dalin...@gmail.com wrote:

> My primary reason for requesting membership to this group is that I must 
> begin selling all six of my bikes and related bicycle gear. Let me explain, 
> please. 
> I was a member of the original Bridgestone Owner's Group, I think #912  
> ???. I joined the RBW group early on, but eventually dropped active 
> participation  because I could not keep up with the number of e-mails 
> involved.
>
> I am now a retired, 87 year old, VA physician, living in north central 
> Arizona. I primarily was a road rider, (non racer, ) with some off road 
> riding in the national forest  which lies out my front door. I stopped  
> riding outdoors when we were shut down by the Covid pandemic.
> I could not risk an injury requiring a hospital ER  visit or 
> hospitalization, and leaving my wife to fend for herself. Thus, I have only 
> been riding indoors on my Revmaster Pro stationary bike.
> I have more recently been diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, am on 
> medication,, but am plagued with extreme fatigue, which limits my rides to 
> about 30 minutes. PD is a progressive, incurable disease, thus my cycling 
> situation is not likely to change .
> Therefore, I an going to try to sell my bikes and miscellaneous gear and 
> equipment.
>
> :I/,m 
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[RBW] Re: Let’s say I made my Clem into a “gravel bike”

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Thanks Rich! And Hi Gil of Gloucester (hoping to bring my blue step through 
to Rockport for a week in July!, where’s the good stuff?)
When I got my Clem, there were no step through frames in size huge, 
otherwise I’d have had that, and probably never grabbed at a Rosco or two..
Top tubes are literal crutches, kinda.
And that specialized titanium fancy bottom bracket was the first weight 
weenie thing I ever purchased. Sealed Shimano cheapies have become my 
favored crank holder in the thirty something years since.
-Kai

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 1:30:01 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:

> Kai,
>
> My compliments on your Clem! Your portfolio of images really displays the 
> Clems versatility, and I might add, your creativity. An ideal bike for 
> NY/Brooklyn terrain.
> The adjustable bottom bracket is pretty cool too:-)
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 9:16:23 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>>
>> Many photos of many states of Clem H, all gravel ready- 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uxqm63W2nB5scvmg7
>> -Kai
>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 4:06:54 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>
>>> [image: PXL_20230606_164339003.jpg]
>>>
>>> This thread needs less opinions and more inpirational photos of Gravel 
>>> Clems. Just my opinion. :P 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:02:41 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not going to provide specific tire recommendations, but I ride 
>>>> "gravel" and single-track quiet a bit on my Roadini. I still remember that 
>>>> time in the 1990s when I was riding with Bridgestone-sponsored cyclist 
>>>> Eric 
>>>> House, and we all showed up in the East Bay proud of ourselves for riding 
>>>> road bikes on a Grant ride. Grant showed up on a fixie with 35mm tires and 
>>>> proceeded to outride us all on and off road. 
>>>>
>>>> A few principles:
>>>>
>>>>- The lighter the rider, the smaller the tire you can get away 
>>>>with. At 140 pounds, I can ride fire roads with 25mm tires (or even 23, 
>>>>back when Michelin 23s were $10/pop!)
>>>>- Tread or no tread doesn't matter as much as rider skill and speed.
>>>>- Rider skill cannot be disentangled from bike fit. If the bike 
>>>>doesn't fit, you will find stuff scary that you can actually ride if 
>>>> the 
>>>>bike fit. I once accidentally raised my seat too high and discovered 
>>>> that 
>>>>stuff I could easily ride suddenly became hard!
>>>>- The longer the ride and the steeper the climb, the more important 
>>>>weight becomes. I can ride big heavy tires if I'm only going to go 
>>>> downhill 
>>>>because a car did most of the work. But if I have to do a lot of 
>>>> climbing 
>>>>(some of which turns into hiking inevitably if you ride in mountainous 
>>>>areas), the lighter the bike the better off you are.
>>>>- You can drop tire pressure far more than most tire pressure 
>>>>calculators will tell you to. I can run 700x40 tires measuring 38mm at 
>>>>25psi (the Rene Herse calculator will recommend 33psi) when I'm riding 
>>>> off 
>>>>pavement. On the pavement that same pressure will feel inefficient. I 
>>>> go so 
>>>>far as to carry a pressure gauge to drop tire pressure at the trail 
>>>> head 
>>>>and pump up the tires when I transition off a dirt descent onto 
>>>> pavement 
>>>>for the ride home.
>>>>- Bigger tires affect handling - one reason I don't ride with as 
>>>>big a tire as I can get away with is that you lose some agility. 
>>>> Frequently 
>>>>I find that being able to steer precisely and quickly offsets the 
>>>> inability 
>>>>to plow through some obstacle head on.
>>>>
>>>> What I do notice is that most people don't like to underbike. They will 
>>>> make comments that I won't be able to do a ride on my 25mm tires and then 
>>>> be all surprised when I show up and do the ride. But when I'm touring I'm 
>>>> not going to bring 3 different bikes, so I just push the limits and go 
>>>> slower and occasionally depend on pulling a spare tire out of my saddle 
>>>> bag 
>>>> if a tire were to shred during a tour (which can happen even if you're not 
>>>> riding off pavement).
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Leo Roadini, Mustachioed & More

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Albastache are undeniably great bars, but for my (less) money, Soma 3 speed 
2’s are the greatest mustache on the planet. They’re fairly wide at 54cm, 
and they take “normal” brake levers, which I don’t get scared I’m going to 
catch on some underbrush with. And my thumbies fit anywhere, so I don’t 
have to run 26mm Paul’s on the sleeve, or have a good pile of vintage band 
clampers around…
https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/moustache-ii-bar
Have them on my Rambouillet, currently set in the sloped up way with a 15cm 
stem. 
Happy Rolling
-Kai



On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 8:44:26 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> I have a set of Albastache I wanted to try on either my Franklin bike or 
> the Bombadil and I would set them up the same way I have then set up now 
> with bar end brake levers and thumbshifters mounted just around the inside 
> of the curve. If not there then I'd go DT shifters as my Sun Tour 
> thumbshifters are all 22.2 so I'd have to but some Dia Compe ones likely, 
> as overpriced as they are. There's also the DC stem mounted shifters that 
> are adjustable in cable angle. 
>
> Especially on a road bike I find 33'ish the sweet spot max.  More doesn't 
> add as much as it detracts in steering feel. I ride my 33mm (actual) 
> Schwalbe Marathon Racers at no more than 40psi when I pump them and by the 
> time I go to pump them again they're more like 35-37. That's on the road, I 
> could go lower for worse surfaces.
>
> I find categorizing a bike only leads to the tail wagging the dog syndrome 
> as you end up chasing some elusive image of what the term may or may not 
> mean. All those categorical buzzwords have no Universal meaning other than 
> their spelling of the words. It's just a bike, regardless of the parts on 
> it !   
>
> Here's what I mean for the bar setup. My hands are never near the ends, 
> always at the foremost straight with my thumbs inside the curve. Shifting 
> is a breeze. The brake levers are easy to reach with a pinkie or two 
> fingers. Reversed the levers are easier to activate than the the other way 
> around. I always hated regular mtb levers as I thought they were designed 
> backwards. 
>
> [image: Alba-Franklin56.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Let’s say I made my Clem into a “gravel bike”

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Many photos of many states of Clem H, all gravel 
ready- https://photos.app.goo.gl/uxqm63W2nB5scvmg7
-Kai
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 4:06:54 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> [image: PXL_20230606_164339003.jpg]
>
> This thread needs less opinions and more inpirational photos of Gravel 
> Clems. Just my opinion. :P 
>
> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:02:41 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm not going to provide specific tire recommendations, but I ride 
>> "gravel" and single-track quiet a bit on my Roadini. I still remember that 
>> time in the 1990s when I was riding with Bridgestone-sponsored cyclist Eric 
>> House, and we all showed up in the East Bay proud of ourselves for riding 
>> road bikes on a Grant ride. Grant showed up on a fixie with 35mm tires and 
>> proceeded to outride us all on and off road. 
>>
>> A few principles:
>>
>>- The lighter the rider, the smaller the tire you can get away with. 
>>At 140 pounds, I can ride fire roads with 25mm tires (or even 23, back 
>> when 
>>Michelin 23s were $10/pop!)
>>- Tread or no tread doesn't matter as much as rider skill and speed.
>>- Rider skill cannot be disentangled from bike fit. If the bike 
>>doesn't fit, you will find stuff scary that you can actually ride if the 
>>bike fit. I once accidentally raised my seat too high and discovered that 
>>stuff I could easily ride suddenly became hard!
>>- The longer the ride and the steeper the climb, the more important 
>>weight becomes. I can ride big heavy tires if I'm only going to go 
>> downhill 
>>because a car did most of the work. But if I have to do a lot of climbing 
>>(some of which turns into hiking inevitably if you ride in mountainous 
>>areas), the lighter the bike the better off you are.
>>- You can drop tire pressure far more than most tire pressure 
>>calculators will tell you to. I can run 700x40 tires measuring 38mm at 
>>25psi (the Rene Herse calculator will recommend 33psi) when I'm riding 
>> off 
>>pavement. On the pavement that same pressure will feel inefficient. I go 
>> so 
>>far as to carry a pressure gauge to drop tire pressure at the trail head 
>>and pump up the tires when I transition off a dirt descent onto pavement 
>>for the ride home.
>>- Bigger tires affect handling - one reason I don't ride with as big 
>>a tire as I can get away with is that you lose some agility. Frequently I 
>>find that being able to steer precisely and quickly offsets the inability 
>>to plow through some obstacle head on.
>>
>> What I do notice is that most people don't like to underbike. They will 
>> make comments that I won't be able to do a ride on my 25mm tires and then 
>> be all surprised when I show up and do the ride. But when I'm touring I'm 
>> not going to bring 3 different bikes, so I just push the limits and go 
>> slower and occasionally depend on pulling a spare tire out of my saddle bag 
>> if a tire were to shred during a tour (which can happen even if you're not 
>> riding off pavement).
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

64cm top tube on that Clem, but not a 64cm frame. Biggies in the H came in 
at 65cm. This one above is probably a 59?
-Kai (who saw the most beautiful red Quickbeam this morning on the 
Queensboro bridge, who’s owner said “you haven’t sold that yet?”, regarding 
my Rosco, to which I replied “It’s the other Rosco I’ve been thinking about 
selling”. But wow, those Roscos are fun fun fun, and measure 64cm and are 
considerably zippier feeling that the Clem 65, which I also rode today. I 
should send one West to the Wasatch Front for yearly shreds, but I 
shouldn’t….)


On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 4:18:44 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Clem Smith Jr. H
> 64cm
> 2200
> Pleasanton, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pleasanton-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-64cm/7629580864.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hobson Zingo adjustable lockring wrench for **$7.00**??

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

My Hobson Zingo headset press is an inch too short for my Rivendell bicycle 
frames! And is no longer available from Riv, maybe for this reason?
Certainly an outlier’s problem, but one Julian might share. Still worth it 
even having to swap the threaded rod for a 14”er, as the press plates are 
pretty cool…
-Kai


On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 6:38:05 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

I disagree with Garth, 

I also bought one (to use as a S coupler wrench as well as a BB lockring 
wrench) -- like the entire H-Z tool line it is not fancy  (you'll not 
mistake it for something from https://www.abbeybiketools.com/ ), but it is 
decently made, and works well. I's say to me is is worth at least $15 if 
not a couple of dollars more. If you're running a professional vintage bike 
repair shop and use it several times a day you might want something more 
robust, but for the other 99.97657% of us, this will do the trick, and 
I'm very glad Rivendell has made it available. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 3:47:58 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

This reminds of Shawshank Redemption movie where Andy asks Red to get him a 
rock hammer that sells for (at the time) . $7. 

When Red inquires as to how Andy is going to use it, he replies "you'll 
understand when you see the rock hammer". 

With the HZ lockring tool, you'll understand why it's $7 when you see it 
;-) .  

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[RBW] Re: What do I replace coroplast with in Sackville

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

As folks have said, more free coroplast will be the ideal solution. 
However, if you want to make your coroplast last forever, never to go “all 
bendy and collapsey”, send it around the front and back (or side to side) 
corners, bending it the hard way. To bend “the hard way”, you’ll want to 
score the coroplast before bending it. Use a straightedge and something 
dull to scribe your bend line perpendicular to the corrugations. You don’t 
want to cut the bends, just dent them enough to follow the lines you want. 
If you plan it well, you’ll be able to unfold your new insert inside the 
bag and it’ll lock into the interior dimensions, giving your bag structure 
forever and ever…
Happy bagging!
-Kai
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:06:34 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Mine is all bendy and collapsey in my medium SaddleSack. What are you 
> folks putting in there to replace it? 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>

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[RBW] Re: 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I just checked out the Ritchey 2 bolt post and was disappointed to see the 
two bolts are for extra retention, not adjustment. A two bolt seatpost, 
like the S83 or the Thompson, that uses the two bolts to adjust fore and 
aft angle are the only seatposts that should be able to be called 2 bolts. 
So the Ritchey gets a booo. Kalloys are fine posts for a great price, but 1 
bolt is sad for both retention and adjustability…

S83 por vida
-Kai


On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> FWIW Leah, The Kalloy post that Riv includes with frames already has 25mm 
> of setback and the model 602 has 24mm. They don't make one with any more 
> than that, and some less. A few mm's plus or minus is hardly worthy of a 
> new post.There's very few posts with more setback than 25mm in any 
> diameter, in 26.8 even less. Seatpost specs is something I took a deep dive 
> in when trying to find suitable 26.8 posts. It isn't pretty. Life is so 
> much easier with 27.2 posts !
>

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[RBW] FS- Rene Herse auto shifter

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

[image: DDCB1B4C-6AEE-47B2-90E5-52E51822AC92.jpeg]
For sale, Rene Herse/Nivex automatic shifter.
Used once, set up tubeless. It’s great, but I’ve pledged to steer clear of 
AI, so this has gotta go.
$6 shipped, check or money order.

Happy Rolling
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: Your preferred pressure for 60 mm tires for all-round riding?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

205 and 25 here…
-Kai

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 2:53:01 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> I’m about 195 lbs., my bike is about 40 lbs., and I run nearly 60mm 
> (57mm). 30 psi is what I’ve settled on for all terrains,  but I’m sure 25 
> psi would fly. I mostly don’t wish to push my luck given my weight. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 9:45:52 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I have been religiously pumping my gossamer 70C X 60 Big Ones to 20 psi 
>> for combined pavement and dirt, thinking that ~20 was necessary to minimize 
>> wallow on paved corners, but on an extended dirt ride today on usually 
>> sandy soil that had been extensively compacted by moisture and then chopped 
>> up by horses and Conservancy District trucks, 20 felt like wood rims on 
>> railroad ties, so I dropped both tires to ~16. That did mitigate the chop 
>> (tho' little really makes horse hoof divots and washboard comfortable 
>> except suspension) and observing carefully during cornering on pavement at 
>> speed I didn't notice as much wallow as I had feared. Me 170 clothed and 
>> shod for cool weather, bike and kit and bags and contents adding another 45 
>> lb or so.
>>
>> So I'm curious: Those of you who use 60 mm tires: what pressure or 
>> pressures, and on what surfaces? And how much do you and kit weigh?
>>
>> Funny: I'd been riding the lightweight fixie gofast with Naches Passes at 
>> 39 mm (skinny rims) and 30-35 psi on the same roads and found that they 
>> were at least slightly smoother on the chop than the BOs at 20. The NPs are 
>> far less gossamer light per unit vol than the Big Ones.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Adjusting Toyo Atlantis geometry

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Seems a great and worthwhile experiment, I look forward to your follow up. 
-Kai

On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:14:47 PM UTC-4 Jay P wrote:

> I do a lot of trail riding + loaded bike picnicking with a 58cm Toyo 
> Atlantis (72.0 degree head tube and seat tube).  
>
>  
>
> And I have noticed those angles slacken a bit on Rivendell production 
> frames over the last 10-15 years
>
>  
>
> I also saw that in addition to the regular 1mm baseplate for the fork 
> crown the Chris King website also lists a thicker 5mm baseplate that they 
> no longer produce, sell, or are willing to manufacture. 
>
>  
>
> At some point I realized a thicker baseplate would slacken the Atlantis 
> head and seat tubes and started to wonder how that would change the nature 
> of the bike.  
>
>
> And figured a thicker baseplate would be fine on my Atlantis as it has 
> ~15mm of extra steerer tube, a very low bottom bracket, and is a little 
> undersized for my 91cm pbh. And as Chris King uses base plates rather than 
> crown races (ie, it does not serve as a bearing race), I figured a custom 
> fabricated piece would likely work fine.
>
>  
>
> So eventually I asked Jim Merz (via the Classic Rendezvous list) to 
> fabricate an 8mm thick baseplate – that is pictured next to the original 
> baseplate (he made it out of 10-2-3 Ti alloy) -- which I believe will 
> slacken the Atlantis angles by ~0.43 degrees. I was aiming for somewhere 
> between too much change and too subtle to notice.  
>
>  
>
> I’ll try the thicker baseplate with no other changes to the bike, and then 
> will swap the current 46cm noodle bars + 10cm dirt drop stem with a 135mm 
> face plate stem + wavie bars + lugged seat post (to experiment with further 
> slackening the effective seat tube angle) to get a still relaxed and 
> upright but more assertive and stretched riding position for trails (and 
> maybe a little better for a wider range of handlebars). 
>
>  
>
> I won’t be able to install until the end of March but thought to share the 
> idea with the group in case this is novel or interesting –  it’s been fun 
> to think through and will be an easy experiment to undo.
>
>
> Jay P.
>
> Marin, CA 
>
>
> [image: IMG_8033.jpg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Huzzahhh And yes, I live at the slimy bottom of a doubly superfunded 
ultracontaminated waterway! Or close enough to worry at least. 

from Flood zone B/C
-Kai

On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:06:19 PM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:

> And Kai from (40.7149091, -73.9313736) wins the 100th pin award!
>
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:41:21 AM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Cheers to all! It's been fun watching the pins drop and the map fill in 
>> with little bicycle bubbles. 
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 7:58:01 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Many thanks for creating the map. Didn't take long for it to be heavily 
>>> populated!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rich in ATL
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 8:31:50 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>>>
 Nicely done, John!

 -Dave

 On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 6:33:08 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yes, thank you! This is great. I’m hoping this will open up a whole 
> new level of interaction and adventure among us RBW owners!
>
> On Mar 12, 2023, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
>
> John Rinker: Thank you, fun map!
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 38x24 Silver crankset, Albastache bars, Silver2 shifters + bar-end pods + thumb shift mounts

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

What’s the crank length?
-Kai

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 3:38:11 PM UTC-5 jdyea...@gmail.com wrote:

> I went down a Rivendell rabbit hole and tried out a bunch of stuff, but 
> I've decided to go a different direction. I've used all of these for just a 
> few rides, so they're basically as close to new as you can get.
>
> 38x24 Silver crankset
> Nitto Albastache bars
> Silver2 shifters x2
> Silver bar-end pods x2
> Silver thumb-shift mounts x2
>
> I'd love to ship all this out to one person if possible. All together, it 
> goes for ~$630 new. How about $500 shipped? Also accepting best offers 
> within reason.
>
> Thanks,
> Josh
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[RBW] Re: Tubeless tire on a non-tubeless rim?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

You’re all set! Will be a bit tighter than you’re used to when mounting 
them, but they’ll work great with tubes on your Atlas rims.
-Kai

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 1:08:56 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a set of tubeless 700c Panaracer tires but I want to mount them on 
> a set of non-tubeless 700c Atlas rims. Yes, I know I’ll need to use tubes!
>
> Will a tubeless Panaracer Gravelking tire work/mount/fit/seat properly on 
> a non-tubeless Atlas rim? 
>
> If I have tube rims, is there a reason why I shouldn't use tubeless tires 
> (with tubes) instead of tube tires?
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Last ride of 2022

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Three worms was easy, I had to hold the three while I used the pronged 
worming needle to coax the 4th into place. They’re all half length worms as 
I cut them to make the worms last, but if I hadn’t, it would’ve been better 
to have used two worms doubled over into four, then the curves of the worms 
could act as a wedge. The freezing temperatures might’ve been to my 
benefit, otherwise the warm rubber goo factor would’ve likely caused the 
worms to worm out of there pronto. 
So, it was luck. Might need some of those specialty large plugs for the 
next time…
-Kai


On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 10:14:37 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> PS: I later bought some exotic and expensive plugs meant for big holes and 
> now carry both types, but if there's an effective technique for using the 
> little ones in big holes, I'd love to learn it.
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:13 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Kai: I'm glad the multi-plug method worked. Can you describe the size of 
>> the hole and how you got the first plugs to "stick" in place while you 
>> added the others? 
>>
>> I ask because I once had a piece of cane stalk go through my rear Big One 
>> leaving a little-finger-size hole. I tried to install the standard worms 
>> but each would just fall into the cavity when I inserted the next one, and 
>> I finally ran out. This left me walking 5 miles home in spd shoes. 
>> Fortunately this was in pleasantly cool fall weather, not in the dead of 
>> winter.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 12:15 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 606EFEA5-0DAE-43AD-A83D-A881ADA9E73A.jpeg]
>>> That day that the temperature went from 60 to zero in no time, I 
>>> positioned a busted piece of plexiglass to protect my bars from freezing 
>>> up, along with my standard saddle protector.
>>> The night was a cold one, around six fahrenheit, and as I made my way 
>>> towards the Queensboro/Ed Koch bridge I felt a massive mystery thing enter 
>>> and leave my tire. Having forgotten to stick an emergency tube in my fixit 
>>> kit, I was faced with the shame of hiking to the Subway, but certainly not 
>>> before I made a pathetic attempt to fix the finger sized hole in my tire. I 
>>> had to hurry as my both my fingers and my sealant were freezing up (took 
>>> some time to warm up the tip of my backup sealant bottle’s applicator tube 
>>> to get it over my valve,  needing to add some as I’d lost a lot of the 
>>> stuff). Anyhows, 4 tire worms later and I was back in business! Notice the 
>>> freezing sealant, it was a miracle. 
>>> Most worms I’d ever used before was two, hope to never see another hole 
>>> that big on a night so cold…
>>> [image: C0E7C619-2F09-48B8-99B6-274BAF87167C.jpeg]
>>>
>>> After the few miles left on the home bound journey-
>>> [image: B7F9CA64-CFF2-45C9-87DF-3B9F32EAB606.jpeg]
>>> Happy New Year everyone!
>>> -Kai
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[RBW] Re: FS- Large Hubbuhhubbuh tandem, $1800.

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Tandem is sold, and will make the long trek to central Brooklyn tomorrow. 
(I’ll get to have one last solo cruise on it )
Thanks all
-Kai


On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 10:54:46 AM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
NY wrote:

> Hey folks, 
> Economics and non-use force sale of a would be beloved bicycle.
> I rode it solo a bit, less than 30 miles, and did a couple very short 
> jaunts with a kiddo.
> It’s fairly swank, with a beautiful and expensive Velocity wheel set with 
> a SON dyno hub.
> I had big plans, but they relied too heavily upon the hope that others in 
> the family would fall in love with the thing. 
> I put clear helicopter tape on the top tube out back to facilitate feet 
> upon it while legs were growing, and routed the brake cable away from that 
> same section of top tube. Works like a charm. 
> Never got as far as hooking up a light or connecting the front shifter, 
> but I’ll include both a light and a front shifter in the sale. 
> Hoping for a local sale, can deliver in and around New York and the 
> surrounding areas, and I’m happy to $hip it.
> Photos- https://photos.app.goo.gl/tex6dqhe3pXZN83a7
> And I’ll be keeping my captain saddle
>
> Thanks much
> -Kai
>
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Re: [RBW] FS- Large Hubbuhhubbuh tandem, $1800.

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I’ve got a tiny add on crankset in a box somewhere as well, picked it up 
with intentions of installing, but never wrapped my head around it/got it 
done. I should dig it up and roll it out with the bike, which I expect will 
be sold tomorrow morning.
-Kai

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 5:54:05 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Might be worth mentioning that I have a child stoker kit that adds a 
> kid-accessible crankset to a standard tandem. If anybody needs more info, 
> email me directly. It’s been gathering dust since my kids were 4 feet tall, 
> which has been a while.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Nov 30, 2022, at 1:50 PM, James M  wrote:
>
> Ayayayay.  Going to talk to the family about this.  If nothing else, your 
> post prompted me to finally put up my own FS post for the Long Haul Trucker 
> that's been collecting dust in the basement.  
>
> Got an estimate on stoker size range?  My youngest is 4' 10", my wife is 
> 5' 10".
>
> James
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 10:54:46 AM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
> NY wrote:
>
>> Hey folks, 
>> Economics and non-use force sale of a would be beloved bicycle.
>> I rode it solo a bit, less than 30 miles, and did a couple very short 
>> jaunts with a kiddo.
>> It’s fairly swank, with a beautiful and expensive Velocity wheel set with 
>> a SON dyno hub.
>> I had big plans, but they relied too heavily upon the hope that others in 
>> the family would fall in love with the thing. 
>> I put clear helicopter tape on the top tube out back to facilitate feet 
>> upon it while legs were growing, and routed the brake cable away from that 
>> same section of top tube. Works like a charm. 
>> Never got as far as hooking up a light or connecting the front shifter, 
>> but I’ll include both a light and a front shifter in the sale. 
>> Hoping for a local sale, can deliver in and around New York and the 
>> surrounding areas, and I’m happy to $hip it.
>> Photos- https://photos.app.goo.gl/tex6dqhe3pXZN83a7
>> And I’ll be keeping my captain saddle
>>
>> Thanks much
>> -Kai
>>
>>
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[RBW] FS- Large Hubbuhhubbuh tandem, $1800.

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Hey folks, 
Economics and non-use force sale of a would be beloved bicycle.
I rode it solo a bit, less than 30 miles, and did a couple very short 
jaunts with a kiddo.
It’s fairly swank, with a beautiful and expensive Velocity wheel set with a 
SON dyno hub.
I had big plans, but they relied too heavily upon the hope that others in 
the family would fall in love with the thing. 
I put clear helicopter tape on the top tube out back to facilitate feet 
upon it while legs were growing, and routed the brake cable away from that 
same section of top tube. Works like a charm. 
Never got as far as hooking up a light or connecting the front shifter, but 
I’ll include both a light and a front shifter in the sale. 
Hoping for a local sale, can deliver in and around New York and the 
surrounding areas, and I’m happy to $hip it.
Photos- https://photos.app.goo.gl/tex6dqhe3pXZN83a7
And I’ll be keeping my captain saddle

Thanks much
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: What dual short/long pull brake levers are out there?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I love my Avid speed dials, and they're inexpensive.
https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/bl-sd-7-a1
-Kai

On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 5:42:43 PM UTC-5 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:

> Howdy all,
>
> I'm in need of a matching pair of brake levers that are interchangeable 
> between short pull and long pull. Because of a front rack non-compatibility 
> issue with my current canti brakes, I'll have to use a v-brake in front, 
> but I'd to keep the canti brake in the rear.
>
> I'm aware of the Shimano BLR780 which Riv sells, but ideally I'd like 
> something with a longer lever body. Does anyone know of any other levers, 
> by Shimano or any other brand, that has the criteria that I'm looking for? 
> Thanks,
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
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[RBW] Re: Rear Dynamo wiring pics / examples? non-fender

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Here’s a rear racklette I made, all of three inches of internal wiring…
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9KBpwpEUiL4XDGyVA
Fun.
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I don't know if there's a front derailleur to fix the clearance issue, but 
looking at your photo from above, it looks like you need some more 
clearance between your big ring and your chainstay. 
A wider bottom bracket would fix everything, I think?
-Kai

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 2:34:16 AM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:

> Link to photos 
>
> On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 11:29:37 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:
>
>> Link to images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcX
>>
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[RBW] Re: Kickstand plates, what's up with that?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

https://www.rivbike.com/products/pletscher-kickstand-hardware?variant=23336090241
Save the plate! Add some weight!
-Kai

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 1:12:04 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I thought I'd bring this over here instead of continuing to hammer Leah's 
> 'Using Your Rivendell' thread. 
>
> Do we have any reports of plates separating from the stays from a 
> single-leg kickstand, or are they all double-leggers? My experience with 
> both is this: 
>
> I used a double-legger on a Clem and could really load that bike up, I'm 
> familiar with that rocking sensation of all the weight torquing on the 
> stand. On my custom I use a single leg (the stock one that came on Clem 
> completes a few years ago) and it's not very strong. It supports the bike 
> fine and I can put a small shopping load in the bags, but as soon as I 
> start to overdo it I can feel the bike getting wobbly like the stand wants 
> to give out on me. My guess in this scenario is the single-legger is 
> warning me before the plate gets too stressed, whilst the double will let 
> you load all day until the plate gives up. 
>
> Whaddyathink? 
>
> Joe Bernard 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

https://www.rivbike.com/products/pletscher-kickstand-hardware?variant=23336090241
This is the chainstay sandwicher that Rivendell sells, it takes pressure 
off the welds and puts it on the chainstays themselves. The only bad thing 
is that the over tightening of these will squish tubes, but that can be 
avoided by not over tightening. 
I don’t use a kickstand, but if I did, I’d use one of these plates…
And for the record, beater bikes are bunk, use the good one.
-Kai

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 11:37:19 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Jay,
> Today, I just installed a double-legged kickstand on my Clem "L".  If I do 
> not carry a heavy loads on the back end of my bike, like you did, I should 
> be fine ?...regarding possible damage of separating the kickstand frame 
> plate. 
>
> Thank-you,
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:39:40 PM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> No damage that I could detect. The kickstand plate isn’t integral to the 
>> frame, it’s just tacked on with some not-very-strong welds. I’m fairly 
>> certain it could be removed with only superficial damage to the paint, but 
>> then I’d have nothing to attach a fender to. 
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2022, at 6:13 PM, Piaw Na  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> No damage to the frame? Or did you have to get it repaired?
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 6:08 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:
>>
>> I don’t have a picture, just imagine the weld giving way and the plate 
>>> separating from the seat stays. I was using a double-legged kickstand at 
>>> the time and carrying a fair amount of cargo (see attached), and evidently 
>>> the seesawing action was enough to pry things loose. It bummed me out for 
>>> maybe half a day, but it’s been fine ever since, now I just use the 
>>> kickstand plate as a fender attachment point.
>>>
>>> Jay Lonner
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2022, at 5:54 PM, Piaw Na  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> What does a peeling mounting plate look like? Anyone have pictures? Not 
>>> that I have kickstands on any of my bikes --- the one on the triplet got 
>>> taken off ages ago... Just curious.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 5:49 PM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>
 When I was talking to Will about getting a double legged kickstand he 
 warned me about the “peeling” mounting plate on the Clems. But, he thought 
 I would be ok they had beefed them up. So far so good.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 5, 2022, at 7:44 PM, Jay Lonner  wrote:

 
 My Hunq is a daily driver and has the dings and scratches to show for 
 it. Probably the worst one is that the kickstand plate is pried partially 
 loose — no big deal, I just took the kickstand off and used the mounting 
 hardware to snug things back up. Worst case scenario for me is that 
 someday 
 I treat myself to a new paint job and maybe some frame modifications to go 
 along with it. 

 Jay Lonner
 Bellingham, WA

 Sent from my Atari 400

 On Nov 5, 2022, at 4:28 PM, George Schick  wrote:

 I haven't read Grant's Blahg on this matter (the ancient OS on my 
 computer is so out of date that I can't load certain websites), but what 
 he 
 has to say does not surprise me.  He's always been all about what he calls 
 "beausage," a term he coined to mean "beauty through usage," or IOW don't 
 sweat all of the nicks and scratches, "just ride" your bike and be happy.  
 The good news though is that there is a happy middle ground between the 
 complete over-the-top utility use of a bike (like Pam's), ignoring any 
 wear 
 and tear versus a finicky protectiveness, hovering over the bike at all 
 times and worrying about theft, damage, etc.  And in my way of thinking 
 that means "just ride" it for all it's worth, but don't just throw it in 
 the corner until the next ride, but take good care of it.  Another way of 
 saying that might be, "... take good care of it and it will take good care 
 of you."
 This is no different than what one might do having just bought a nice 
 new automobile and drives it everywhere, but also maintains it, washes and 
 waxes it regularly, and is careful where they park it.

 On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:14:45 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I love this topic! I had my custom designed to answer the question, 
> "What if I had all the qualities I love about Rivendells in a frame made 
> exactly for my size, weight and riding preferences?", and at first I was 
> super precious about it. Later I realized the whole point was to have a 
> perfect bike I could ride every day for everything and that's what I'm 
> doing.
>
> Of course I'm still absurdly touchy about scratching all that 
> beautiful Joe Bell paint but I don't let it stop me, I lock it up 

[RBW] Re: Zero-rise Albatross Bar?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Soma Three Speed bar #2 is fantastic, and while not flat, it’s pretty low 
profile.
https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/moustache-ii-bar
-Kai

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 1:45:41 PM UTC-4 Kieran J wrote:

> I'm looking for a handlebar that's very much like the Alba bars but 
> flat/no rise. Essentially an Alba-size porteur. 
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? The Choco bars are close but not quite flat. 
>
> KJ
>
>

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[RBW] 99% invisible’s “Safety Bike” episode

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-safety-bicycle/

A great episode from the greatest podcast, covering engineering and social 
changes. It’s very good.
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: FS- SON delux/DT Swiss dyno wheel 284.88€

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I have a Shutter Precision, and a Shimano on two different bikes, and I 
can't tell any difference, they’re both great. With this “delux”, it makes 
less energy at slower speeds, which means for less resistance/notchiness, 
but higher speeds gets me full power. This wheel is going on my 
Rambouillet, so less resistance was key to me, but slower speed light 
flicker will be worse than the SP or Shimano, maybe.
-Kai

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 11:17:44 AM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Is the price difference worth it?  I never liked the buzz with a shimano 
> dyna hub. Its not a lot, just there all the time A SON hub may buzz a 
> little at the beginning of a ride if the bike has sat for a while, then 
> goes away after 1/4 mile or so. Buzz meaning the magnet notchiness 
> differences between the two hubs. 
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:47:43 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I am tempted by this deal. With dynamo on one bike I am keen on 
>> outfitting my other bike as well. They have a wheel with a Shimano dyno hub 
>> for about half that price. For those with experience with SON and other 
>> hubs, is the price difference worth it?
>> Doug
>>
>> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 10:44:18 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> To be clear, I’m not selling mine, but there’s one left over there in 
>>> Germany, and with the current exchange, this comes out to a very good deal. 
>>> And yes, my Rambouillet will look funny with black spokes in front, silver 
>>> out back, but it’ll have lights!
>>> -Kai
>>> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 5:21:54 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bike24.com/p2164993.html?searchTerm=Son+delux+dt+swiss=SBP=production_SEARCH_INDEX_EN=SON264810==anonymized=631038
>>>>
>>>> I can’t afford it, but I bought the second to last one anyways.
>>>> -Kai
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS- SON delux/DT Swiss dyno wheel 284.88€

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

To be clear, I’m not selling mine, but there’s one left over there in 
Germany, and with the current exchange, this comes out to a very good deal. 
And yes, my Rambouillet will look funny with black spokes in front, silver 
out back, but it’ll have lights!
-Kai
On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 5:21:54 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

>
> https://www.bike24.com/p2164993.html?searchTerm=Son+delux+dt+swiss=SBP=production_SEARCH_INDEX_EN=SON264810==anonymized=631038
>
> I can’t afford it, but I bought the second to last one anyways.
> -Kai
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[RBW] FS- SON delux/DT Swiss dyno wheel 284.88€

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

https://www.bike24.com/p2164993.html?searchTerm=Son+delux+dt+swiss=SBP=production_SEARCH_INDEX_EN=SON264810==anonymized=631038

I can’t afford it, but I bought the second to last one anyways.
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Scary.
In the other direction, I got a good foot planted on the hood of an 
obnoxious Bentley that was being disrespectful of bicycle cross traffic. 
The driver looked super pissed and horribly distraught all at once. Not a 
Joe Bell, but the paint was pretty nice. I’ll do the same to any car, but 
fancy ones are a bonus. Classic angry cyclist exercising his privilege, I 
know.
On the other hand, as a teen in Las Vegas, I was riding along the shoulder 
of a desolate section of road when a car traveling my way passed going 90 
or so. As they overtook me, I was surprised by something passing within 
inches of my head, the intense fizzy release sound in the distance ahead of 
me told me it had been an unopened can/missile. Knowing there was a red 
light not too far ahead, I never pedaled harder in my life in trying to 
catch them there, imagining that I’d send myself through their open window 
and try my best to kill everyone in the car. Luckily I never caught up…
Stupid all over the place, be safe out there, and always keep an eye out 
for escape routes
-Kai

On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 12:41:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> *First of all I'd like to note that starting this thread might not be a 
> great idea. But perhaps it would be a way for us to share some experiences, 
> vent or commiserate. *
>
> Well, I think a lot of us have been there. We've had a weird, scary, 
> too-close-for-comfort interaction with a motorist. It could be due to 
> driver inattention or downright overt aggression. It could have been your 
> fault or no fault of your own. Do you have a riding story involving a 
> motorist you'd like to share? 
>
> I live in Fredericksburg, VA, a small city built on a grid. We have an 
> historic district here, many streets are narrow with one-way traffic. There 
> are a few two-lane arteries designed to move cars. Posted speeds are 25 mph 
> (I always drive slower and leave my truck in 2nd gear). People drive like 
> maniacs on certain residential streets, sometimes reaching 50mph. I often 
> wish for more traffic calming infrastructure, crosswalks, speed tables and 
> the like. 
>
> In March 2021 I was riding my bike to the bike shop, about a 1.5 mile 
> trip. I was heading down a one-way street through a residential 
> neighborhood with street parking on the right and long, grassy, landscaped 
> park on the left. I was riding to the right side of the street. This 
> section of road has one lane and it is unusually wide. There is room for 
> someone to comfortably pass a cyclist. 
>
> Someone honked their horn at me but not in the "Hi, heads up, I'm about to 
> pass you please and thanks" sort of way but the "Get the fork off the 
> road!" kind of way. It was startling. I responded by taking the lane, which 
> is legal for cyclists in Virginia. I rode dead center in the middle of the 
> lane. I hoisted a one-finger salute and carried on riding. I rode in the 
> middle of the lane for approximately 100 feet before making a turn. 
>
> Yes, this was an escalation. And it was a bad decision. I don't think I'm 
> alone in feeling frustrated by displays of impatience and aggression from 
> drivers and feel that I have certain rights as a human person to ride 
> safely. It is sometimes difficult not to react in the moment. Motorists 
> might be not only impatient but totally deranged. Road rage is real. And 
> drivers are behind the wheel of a vehicle that is easily weaponized. With 
> just a feather of the gas pedal or a slight turn of the wheel they can 
> inflict irrevocable damage to a cyclist. 
>
> The driver responded to my salute by getting within a few feet of my back 
> wheel. When I  made a turn to carry on to the bike shop, they followed. I 
> could hear them revving their engine behind me and feathering the gas to 
> get close to my back wheel but not quite hit me. I continued to ride in the 
> middle of the road. 
>
> I heard something hit the street next to me. It was an unopened aluminum 
> can of a carbonated beverage (I didn't go back to check out whether it was 
> soda, beer or seltzer). Acknowledging the projectile I decided I had to 
> bail and get up on the sidewalk or somehow turn around to where the car 
> could not get to me. 
>
> As soon as I moved to the side to take a driveway apron up onto the 
> sidewalk the car passed me, then got right in front of me and slammed on 
> their brakes. I braked hard and managed not to do an endo onto their trunk 
> or hit their vehicle. The straddle cable hanger came loose from the front 
> brake cable. The driver sped off. I did not get their plates. 
>
> A few days later I went around the neighborhood and knocked on every door 
> with a doorbell camera that was along the path of my interaction with the 
> driver. Everyone I asked checked their footage but only one came back with 
> anything showing me or the driver. There was a clip of the driver revving 
> their engine behind me and throwing the can. You can see the can fly 
> 

[RBW] Re: Artsy Pics of Your Riv's

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Yowza! Judging by that seatpost height, you’ve got, approximately, a one 
kilometer inseam.. You could ride my tandem from the back seat! (You 
haven’t forgotten how much I want to sell you a tandem, have you?:)


On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 11:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Richardson wrote:

> close, kai--67cm!  she wears 175mm suginos.
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>

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[RBW] Re: Artsy Pics of Your Riv's

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That’s a good one, Paul, nice light. And your Homer, it’s a 64? 66? What 
length cranks? 
Happy Rolling all
-Kai 

On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:01:19 AM UTC-4 Paul Richardson wrote:

> homer in a tunnel.
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
> [image: homertunnel.jpg]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Differences between Sam Hillborne and A Homer Hilsen

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

No W, but a certifiably Wisconsonian Hillborne with a popped seatstay 
- https://photos.app.goo.gl/orPod6s3vNemzvU8A 
And after they had fixed it better than new! 
- https://photos.app.goo.gl/zB8f86DjVCG2GNNq8
All before I stupidly sold it...

shopping for a 71 Hilsen
-Kai

On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:32:20 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> I don't know that the lack of a W means that is is not a Waterford, 
> Waterford does have other end caps. But if you have the W, it is a 
> Waterford as far as i know.
>
> Laing
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:06:24 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:
>
>> Laing, thanks for the interesting bit about Waterford-built frames. This 
>> is the first I hear. I never noticed the W as a deliberate W (as opposed to 
>> being strictly an embellishment) on my Waterford Hunqapillar, so it was 
>> cool to see it for what it is. I had to check the other Rivs in the stable, 
>> all Toyo built, and of course none has the W.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> [image: Hunq Waterford seat stay end.jpeg]
>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 9:47:06 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> Don't Waterford frames have a distinctive seat stay end cap with a 'W" 
>>> in the recess - my Bombadil does. This is a better picture from the 
>>> Waterford site, but the same as my Bombadil:
>>>
>>> [image: 
>>> 6881680380_566caa3985_z-nwiouwjw51r3qwj11ieoc8axc7o69w290ux5x1it4w.jpg]
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:05:54 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 THAT'S it. I knew there was a difference between the two but couldn't 
 remember the detail change. But I think yours is backwards, my 
 recollection 
 is Toyo had two sets of bottle bosses and the later Waterford got the 
 third 
 set. 

 On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:01:05 AM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Not sure that it is totally definitive but I expect the Toyo AHH to 
> have three water bottle boss pairs and the Waterford to have two pairs 
> (none under the down tube).
>
> David Lipsky
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 7:11:42 PM UTC-7 James wrote:
>
>> I have an older AHH.  Anyone know how I can tell if it's Toyo or 
>> Waterford made?
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:52:35 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> I had an older MUSA AHH 61 (2006-ish?) and a Taiwan Sam 62 
>>> (2015-ish) with 2TT and for a brief spell I also had a 2TT 58. All of 
>>> them 
>>> were 700C. I should also say that they are all gone at this point, 
>>> nothing 
>>> wrong with them except my own unnecessary searching for the next shiny 
>>> object.
>>>
>>> Both are amazing frames and can be set up very similarly - I think 
>>> your tires, racks and handlebars would probably determine the feel and 
>>> ride 
>>> more than the frame geo, tubing or anything else.
>>>
>>> Some details on the way mine were set up: both had front and rear 
>>> racks, sidepull brakes and short stems:
>>> AHH 700x38 + dropbars
>>> SH 62  700x44 + dropbars
>>> SH 58 700x42 + Albatross
>>>
>>> It has been said that the Sam is burlier or that the tubing on the 
>>> Homer is slightly lighter and the lugs are more elegant. To me, they 
>>> were 
>>> both equally capable, perhaps the 2TT Sam felt a tad stiffer 
>>> particularly 
>>> when loaded, but it certainly didn't feel slower. Also, at no point did 
>>> I 
>>> feel like my AHH couldn't carry as much as the Sam. 
>>>
>>> Are you trying to decide which one you'd buy? If so, I would choose 
>>> based on availability, color, badge, name, which one do you find more 
>>> beautiful? Oh and sizing: which one fits you better? If you can find a 
>>> frame where you fall in the middle of the suggested PBH range for 
>>> either 
>>> the Sam or the AHH I would choose that.
>>>
>>> Not sure if this helps, but I think Grant said it best when he said 
>>> it was hard to tell one from the other when you were riding them.
>>>
>>> Best.
>>> Max
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:38:49 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dave Grossman

 What made your the Roadini a superior all around bike compared your 
 AHH-MUSA/MUJ  ???   Was the Roadini more lively, handle better, ride 
 better, or something else???   It seems the Roadini is more a pure 
 road 
 bike vs the all around nature of the AHH.Just curious.

 John Hawrylak
 Woodstown  NJ

 On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 10:25:19 PM UTC-4 Dave Grossman wrote:

> I have an older Homer (not sure if it is Waterford or Toyo but I'd 
> like to know actually) and having owned a Roadini I can say I find it 
> a 
> much superior all around bike.  I hadn't considered a Sam since I 
> have a 

[RBW] Re: Rolling on the Rivendell Mountain

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That’s the coolest! Love it’s mechanical features (matching suspensions!), 
and I’m glad to hear your mechanical was manageable.
-Kai


On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 11:35:11 PM UTC-4 R. Alexis wrote:

> Did the Corporate Cycling Challenge today, 
> https://showofficeonline.com/CorporateCyclingChallenge/. Decided to use 
> the Rivendell Mountain to do it based on wanting as comfortable a bike as 
> possible. Hadn't been on it in a while with having several bikes and the 
> Rivendell needing some attention. It sill does, but it did the job fine. 
> Did have a slight mechanical. The Mavic bottom bracket non-drive side came 
> loose causing the left left crankarm to slightly rub the chainstay. Got it 
> hand tightened a couple times and gingerly rode it the 12 or so remaining 
> miles of 42 back. 
>
> Reginald Alexis 
>
>
> [image: image00 (13).jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 68cm Atlantis

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That’s a real bike!
So much to love.
Enjoy
-Kai

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 12:13:23 PM UTC-6 penne...@gmail.com wrote:

> Following up here just to say that, against the odds, this worked 
> amazingly well. Took 9 days from the WTB being posted for me to take 
> delivery of a 68cm Atlantis frame, which I built up right away, fine tuned 
> for a week or so, and is now up and running. The build was mainly dictated 
> by parts availability in my garage (didn't buy anything), but I also took 
> inspiration from the colour scheme of 1980s era Burger Kings after a photo 
> of one preserved behind a wall at a mall in Delaware made its rounds on the 
> internet a couple of weeks ago! I've attached a photo—hope I've done so 
> properly. 
>
> This success, I presume, would be unlikely enough. But, my WTB also led 
> straight to finding the other 68 I had been wanting, a Quickbeam, which 
> arrived today! Seems miraculous. Thanks to the tall guys on here who helped 
> me out! 
>
> Mack in Alberta (and in the middle of a pbh range) 
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 11:00:11 AM UTC-6 Mack Penner wrote:
>
>> In the last couple of years, at least, the bunch seems to have been 
>> amazingly effective at moving some 68cm Atlantises (Atlantii?) around to 
>> new owners. So, one more time? F/F/HS would be ideal, but if you only want 
>> to sell complete my arm could be twisted, probably. 
>>
>> I've been a reader for a little while, but never a poster, so this post 
>> might have an uphill battle ahead of it. Maybe a brief explanation will 
>> help: I managed to buy a 67cm Homer this winter, and it went straight to 
>> the top of my favourites list, ahead of a 62cm 2TT Appaloosa (thx Jim W!), 
>> a 61cm Roadini that I'm always on the verge of selling, and just barely 
>> ahead of a 60cm Platypus. Being totally hooked on the fit of the Homer, I 
>> want another big one but with room for fatter tires.
>>
>> Could this work in time for my end of summer tour in the Rockies to be an 
>> Atlantis tour? Here's hoping!
>>
>> Mack in Alberta 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr H

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

It's looking that way...
-Kai (65 H'r)

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 1:00:11 PM UTC-4 OutnBack wrote:

> Is the Clem Smith Jr strictly a step-through these days?

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I only wish I was cruising Vanderbilt on the tandem! Haven’t had it out in 
about a year. Need to make a for sale post, but if anyone local can 
come up with $2500 for a cliffhangered SON hubbed orange beauty of a big 
tandem (Silver cranks, the works!…), let me know
-Kai  

On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 7:06:59 PM UTC-4 Todd Ferguson wrote:

> Aaah sorry not to see this. I was tooling around the park from 11-Noon!  
> Kai I saw you on your Hubbuhubbuh on Friday at Vanderbilt and Fulton at 
> about 6pm. Gave a wave! I was on a RB-1 so a little bit in stealth mode. 
> Brazing party sounds great!
>
> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 11:49:44 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Late notice but a few folks are meeting at Grand Army Plaza at 1p today 
>> to pedal around the park and then get tacos and beer. Meet behind the 
>> farmers market near the entrance to the park. HMU - 347-325-2640 
>> <(347)%20325-2640>. 
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 5:06 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No tandemming with Justin for Father's day = Bummer
>>> Probably better as I'm an iffy captain at best... (Tandem is on the sale 
>>> block anyhows (know anybody?))
>>> And Hello Todd of Ditmas!
>>> I still hope there can be a big ride, but Father's day has put a damper 
>>> on my ability to step away from the fam for a few hours on Sunday. Father's 
>>> day, and a huge slice through the tread and sidewall of my new 33's on the 
>>> Ram, and the Rosco in pieces on the floor, and and and...  excuses I know.
>>> I still want to have that brazing party in my yard, the one where we add 
>>> weird bits to odd spots on your bikes while drinking beers and 
>>> trampolining. 
>>> Let's party!
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 10:57:50 PM UTC-4 Todd Ferguson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks-
>>>>
>>>> I'm Todd from Ditmas Park. I commute daily to midtown along Kent on my 
>>>> Atlantis but would love to cruise around with like minded folks on some 
>>>> weekend mornings. I did have the pleasure of bumping into Kai once on his 
>>>> Mountain Mixte and riding down first avenue with him. Would love to meet 
>>>> the rest of you!
>>>>
>>>> -Todd
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 8:54:25 PM UTC-4 Brendan McLaughlin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Minh and the rest of the gang!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in South Slope with a Clem H and would love to meet up for a ride 
>>>>> some time! I'm out of town 6/18 and 6/19 but would love to do a ride on 
>>>>> another weekend this Summer. Thanks for getting this going!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Brendan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 2:57:55 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> oof Justin, good catch.  Saturday is out for me too, but i could do 
>>>>>> Sunday and prefer on the early-ish side, hopefull that leaves things 
>>>>>> open 
>>>>>> enough for other activities later in the day.  I'll leave that option up 
>>>>>> for further discussion over the next week or so and we can try and lock 
>>>>>> it 
>>>>>> in next week? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 1:19:06 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just realized that Sunday is Father's Day, so probably no go for 
>>>>>>> me 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 12:48 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>>>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With kids in the mix, I always consider planning grownup activities 
>>>>>>>> a long shot, so I'm not to be planned around...
>>>>>>>> But that Saturday has become a no go (skate date with my younger, 
>>>>>>>> music performance for my older). Sunday is tentatively wide open 
>>>>>>>> though!
>>>>>>>> aside from ride planning, if anyone wants some braze-ons cooked to 
>>>>>>>> their frames, I'm looking for some practice (I've even got braze-ons!)
>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 10:47:33 A

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

No tandemming with Justin for Father's day = Bummer
Probably better as I'm an iffy captain at best... (Tandem is on the sale 
block anyhows (know anybody?))
And Hello Todd of Ditmas!
I still hope there can be a big ride, but Father's day has put a damper on 
my ability to step away from the fam for a few hours on Sunday. Father's 
day, and a huge slice through the tread and sidewall of my new 33's on the 
Ram, and the Rosco in pieces on the floor, and and and...  excuses I know.
I still want to have that brazing party in my yard, the one where we add 
weird bits to odd spots on your bikes while drinking beers and 
trampolining. 
Let's party!
-Kai


On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 10:57:50 PM UTC-4 Todd Ferguson wrote:

> Hi folks-
>
> I'm Todd from Ditmas Park. I commute daily to midtown along Kent on my 
> Atlantis but would love to cruise around with like minded folks on some 
> weekend mornings. I did have the pleasure of bumping into Kai once on his 
> Mountain Mixte and riding down first avenue with him. Would love to meet 
> the rest of you!
>
> -Todd
>
> On Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 8:54:25 PM UTC-4 Brendan McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> Hello Minh and the rest of the gang!
>>
>> I'm in South Slope with a Clem H and would love to meet up for a ride 
>> some time! I'm out of town 6/18 and 6/19 but would love to do a ride on 
>> another weekend this Summer. Thanks for getting this going!
>>
>> -Brendan
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 2:57:55 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>
>>> oof Justin, good catch.  Saturday is out for me too, but i could do 
>>> Sunday and prefer on the early-ish side, hopefull that leaves things open 
>>> enough for other activities later in the day.  I'll leave that option up 
>>> for further discussion over the next week or so and we can try and lock it 
>>> in next week? 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 1:19:06 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>> NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just realized that Sunday is Father's Day, so probably no go for me 
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 12:48 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> With kids in the mix, I always consider planning grownup activities a 
>>>>> long shot, so I'm not to be planned around...
>>>>> But that Saturday has become a no go (skate date with my younger, 
>>>>> music performance for my older). Sunday is tentatively wide open though!
>>>>> aside from ride planning, if anyone wants some braze-ons cooked to 
>>>>> their frames, I'm looking for some practice (I've even got braze-ons!)
>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 10:47:33 AM UTC-4 jeffrey kane wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Same as Patch - but yeah, would love to join so will circle back if I 
>>>>>> can make it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 8:00:07 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I might be out of town. If I'm not out of town, I'd love to join!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patch
>>>>>>> E. Wburg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 9:07:44 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would love to join. Let me check the calendar and get back to you 
>>>>>>>> guys. Later preferable for me too, Kai. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 3:35 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>>>>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Forts and friends! https://photos.app.goo.gl/pcwSpzmpWEvBTixM7 
>>>>>>>>> <—ft. Tilden awhile back, with the good graffiti 
>>>>>>>>> That’s an always fun trip, when you thinking to start? I’d be able 
>>>>>>>>> to do a later in the day ride, leaving after 2:30ish?, but with so 
>>>>>>>>> much to 
>>>>>>>>> see out there, I would understand if that were too late a start
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 4:20:28 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will be out of town but would love to another time. Never did 
>>>>>>>>>> that ride!
>>>>>

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

With kids in the mix, I always consider planning grownup activities a long 
shot, so I'm not to be planned around...
But that Saturday has become a no go (skate date with my younger, music 
performance for my older). Sunday is tentatively wide open though!
aside from ride planning, if anyone wants some braze-ons cooked to their 
frames, I'm looking for some practice (I've even got braze-ons!)
-Kai

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 10:47:33 AM UTC-4 jeffrey kane wrote:

> Same as Patch - but yeah, would love to join so will circle back if I can 
> make it.
>
> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 8:00:07 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>
>> I might be out of town. If I'm not out of town, I'd love to join!
>>
>> Patch
>> E. Wburg
>>
>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 9:07:44 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>> NY) wrote:
>>
>>> I would love to join. Let me check the calendar and get back to you 
>>> guys. Later preferable for me too, Kai. 
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 3:35 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Forts and friends! https://photos.app.goo.gl/pcwSpzmpWEvBTixM7 <—ft. 
>>>> Tilden awhile back, with the good graffiti 
>>>> That’s an always fun trip, when you thinking to start? I’d be able to 
>>>> do a later in the day ride, leaving after 2:30ish?, but with so much to 
>>>> see 
>>>> out there, I would understand if that were too late a start
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 4:20:28 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I will be out of town but would love to another time. Never did that 
>>>>> ride!
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 2, 2022, at 3:58 PM, Minh  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hey all bringing this to the top.  i have a free weekend 18th-19th, 
>>>>> so proposing a ride down to Far Rockaway, anyone else around want to 
>>>>> join?  
>>>>> Ride down, stop at Fort for pictures, get some tacos or other beach food. 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  could do Sat or Sunday, or even Monday if you have the day off!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:32:06 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> LIC would work for me. $100 per month per person? I'd prob be willing 
>>>>>> to go higher depending on the space, how many other people join, etc. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 6:54:16 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I appreciate all leads and ideas. On the listings project, mentioned 
>>>>>>> above, there are some spaces in LIC, an area I hadn't thought about.
>>>>>>> This may be an unreasonable question right now, until we have 
>>>>>>> something specific to consider, but does anyone have an idea of how 
>>>>>>> much 
>>>>>>> they would be able/willing to contribute to this? It might help in 
>>>>>>> limiting 
>>>>>>> the options. VERY rough ballpark figure, of course, with no obligations 
>>>>>>> at 
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:09:42 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>>>>>> NY wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's this- https://bikecoop.nyc/ but it lacks the home base 
>>>>>>>> feel that would be nice in a rental. Much cheaper though...
>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:15:45 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We had a nice meet up yesterday at the Spritzenhaus (gotta love 
>>>>>>>>> that name): Kai, Michael, Stephan and me, all on Rivendells from 
>>>>>>>>> various 
>>>>>>>>> eras.
>>>>>>>>> To all New Yorkersanyone interested in sharing some rental 
>>>>>>>>> space to set up as a workshop? My guest bedroom is becoming overrun 
>>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>>> stuff. Could be in Br

[RBW] Re: Grant's new Big Clem

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I think it was that alternate cable routing at the derailleur which gave it 
that extra "really good, great, best shifting". Hopefully this leads to 
many more huge bikes in the future. 
Would love to be in between sizes
-Kai

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 12:38:35 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:

> In Will's latest news update Grant talks about his newest Clem. In it he 
> describes the "really good, great, best shifting" with his wide-spaced 7 
> speed cassette / 10 speed chain combination. That makes me curious how much 
> the Nexave Rapid Rise derailer might influence the shifting? Especially 
> from one who has never used a narrow chain on his 7 and 8 speed cassettes 
> with Deore LX derailers.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>

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[RBW] Re: Free: Susie Frame

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Echoing Keith with “bummer”, but I gotta say I can’t see any downsides to 
fillet brazing here. The steel tore alongside the fillet. The fact that 
it’s actually torn and not cracked there is as much proof as I’d need to 
have trust in the bronze union. That said, I’d love to see some closeups as 
well, if it’s not too heart wrenching to post…
-Kai

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 12:37:28 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:

> Gosh, what a bummer.  So sorry that happened, and hope insurance will make 
> you whole.  This does seem to illustrate the down-side to fillet/tig 
> construction and curved tubes.  I imagine that it will be difficult to 
> repair.   Unless it's just too painful, I'd love to see some close-up shots 
> of the fillet joints on the damaged tubes, to see how they faired and to 
> understand their limitations/strengths better.  Trying to make lemonade, I 
> guess. 
>
> On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 9:28:42 AM UTC-6 benjami...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This size L Susie frame fell off a rack on the highway. Top and down tube 
>> are obviously broken but rear triangle and head tube seem fine. Free if you 
>> pay for shipping.
>>
>> [image: BEA2F3C4-2C2F-43FE-A7BB-06741817CE6A.jpeg]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Forts and friends! https://photos.app.goo.gl/pcwSpzmpWEvBTixM7 <—ft. Tilden 
awhile back, with the good graffiti 
That’s an always fun trip, when you thinking to start? I’d be able to do a 
later in the day ride, leaving after 2:30ish?, but with so much to see out 
there, I would understand if that were too late a start

On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 4:20:28 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> I will be out of town but would love to another time. Never did that ride!
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 2, 2022, at 3:58 PM, Minh  wrote:
>
> hey all bringing this to the top.  i have a free weekend 18th-19th, so 
> proposing a ride down to Far Rockaway, anyone else around want to join?  
> Ride down, stop at Fort for pictures, get some tacos or other beach food.  
>  could do Sat or Sunday, or even Monday if you have the day off!
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:32:06 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> LIC would work for me. $100 per month per person? I'd prob be willing to 
>> go higher depending on the space, how many other people join, etc. 
>>
>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 6:54:16 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> I appreciate all leads and ideas. On the listings project, mentioned 
>>> above, there are some spaces in LIC, an area I hadn't thought about.
>>> This may be an unreasonable question right now, until we have something 
>>> specific to consider, but does anyone have an idea of how much they would 
>>> be able/willing to contribute to this? It might help in limiting the 
>>> options. VERY rough ballpark figure, of course, with no obligations at all.
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:09:42 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's this- https://bikecoop.nyc/ but it lacks the home base feel 
>>>> that would be nice in a rental. Much cheaper though...
>>>> -Kai
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:15:45 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We had a nice meet up yesterday at the Spritzenhaus (gotta love that 
>>>>> name): Kai, Michael, Stephan and me, all on Rivendells from various eras.
>>>>> To all New Yorkersanyone interested in sharing some rental space 
>>>>> to set up as a workshop? My guest bedroom is becoming overrun with stuff. 
>>>>> Could be in Brooklyn, upper Manhattanjust need easy access via bike. 
>>>>> I'm envisioning a bike shop like atmosphere, work bench with vise (Yeh), 
>>>>> shared tools and spare parts. Small frig with libations, used couch for a 
>>>>> nap, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else have this pipe dream? Or a lead on some space?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan
>>>>> UWS
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 1:36:50 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  (sorry if this is a double send).  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i'm sad to miss this get together, sounds like there is a decent 
>>>>>> number!   as far as organizing, i'd propose a sheet like this 
>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AA-OoyAF6t9ais0HhXzQR8hmOIOKIyUl-pIlOM9bC54/edit#gid=634347005>,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> where people can add their names and links to parts swap, etc. we can 
>>>>>> also 
>>>>>> use it as a shared calendar for activities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if you wanna test it, here's the link to the form 
>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkHWX27Bqkr2M344BLFUHyptbjKCO81teVqZOeM_-VRhtXZQ/viewform>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:41:40 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm in for the meetup, looking forward to it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Stephen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>>>>>> NY wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Might be a little late, coming from the dentist, hopefully not 
>>>>>>>> numb, maybe with drop bars...
>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> G

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Doug, you're likely already aware that there's different levels of 
loc-tite, but just make sure you use the less permanent option on those 
shifters of yours.
Happy shifting!
-Kai

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:38:46 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I was just looking at shifters on the Rivendell website and found this 
> blurb in the description of the wing bolts that can replace the d-ring bolt 
> that comes with the Silver2 shifter... "*Put some loc-tite on them and 
> you'll likely never have to mess with them. If your shifter loses a little 
> tension, turn it at the next stop or even while you're riding, if you're 
> careful."  *So, I think I will try a little loc-tite on the bolt to see 
> if that helps with slippage.
> Doug 
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:08:03 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Man, I grew up with friction shifters & have been yearning for the Silver 
>> shifters to replace my Microshift units that came on the bike. But these 
>> things work flawlessly & I’d forgotten about “slippage”. I think I shall 
>> resist the nostalgic trip down memory lane and save $170.00!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 30, 2022, at 8:50 PM, J J  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi Doug, thanks for the nice write up. CeeCee looks great!
>>
>> About the Silver2 shifters: I’ve had the same problem of gears slipping. 
>> I find that I have to tighten the D ring screw so much to prevent slipping 
>> that it makes it hard to move the shift levers. I haven’t thought of using 
>> thread lock. I’ve just kind of accepted the slipping as reality for these 
>> shifters. It seems like I constantly have to fiddle with them. 
>>
>> I’d love to hear suggestions from anyone else who might be reading this. 
>> I prefer friction shifting. But the slipping with these brand new Silver2s 
>> has me considering index shifting for the first time. Grant says these are 
>> the best shifters in the world. If these are the best….surely they should 
>> not slip?? 
>>
>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share 
>>> some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it my 
>>> Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but CeeCee may 
>>> work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. Am I 
>>> faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? It 
>>> doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up hills 
>>> with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a greater 
>>> degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the Clem rides 
>>> on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>>>
>>> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used 
>>> dynamo but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag from 
>>> the hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for 
>>> other thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a Kasai 
>>> hub. My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded hub. 
>>> The mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>>>
>>> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and grippy. 
>>> They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today wearing my 
>>> Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and grip. Speaking of 
>>> grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>>>
>>> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even though 
>>> it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two stickers 
>>> on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it up a little 
>>> more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.
>>>
>>> I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the 
>>> Silver2 shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess I 
>>> need to find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. Should 
>>> I use thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?
>>>
>>> All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on any 
>>> surface. Just Ride.
>>>
>>> Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Doug
>>> Athens, GA
>>>
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[RBW] Re: 65cm Clem Smith Jr Build / First ride

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That there's a well worn B Lumotec IQ. It's lit up a lot of paths over 
the years, but my IQ-X is better looking...
-Kai

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 3:59:39 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> That Clem H is great! Can't wait to get a handful of years of adventure 
> and tape on it. What headlamp are you using? 
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 12:36:18 PM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>> The low is the way to go, here's my 65 high for reference- 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uxqm63W2nB5scvmg7
>> Sturdy bike for sure, rides a lot bier than other 65s out there.
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 1:33:55 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>
>>> oh! you are right - 64. I think I measured seat tube center to top which 
>>> is about 65 and it stuck in my brain :) 
>>>
>>> The length is only 25mm difference between the 59 and the 64. That was 
>>> my biggest determining factor, as Will confirmed the seatpost would be able 
>>> to be low enough to accommodate my PBH. Plenty of room for stopping and 
>>> jumping off mid climb :) 
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 11:22:59 AM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> “6’1” on a 65 Clem Smith Jr?!”, is what I said to myself in disbelief 
>>>> 﫢, but seeing the photo wiped away my fears. To be overly technical, 65s 
>>>> only came in H, H as in the top tube was all the way there, and as someone 
>>>> on the upper end of the 6’s with a 65 Clem H, I feared for your abrupt 
>>>> stops…
>>>> But yeah, photos tell all, and specifically, that’s a 64, and a 
>>>> beautiful one at that.
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>> -Kai
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 12:19:19 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Howdy all, 
>>>>>
>>>>> We are in new bike season, and hope to see lots of posts soon! Came 
>>>>> across it for sale from a RBW poster this winter. Third hand I think. 
>>>>> Since 
>>>>> I spent most of my disposable income on it, Ive been doing my best to 
>>>>> build 
>>>>> it as inexpensively as possible given costs of parts in Canada are 
>>>>> outrageous and hard to find, Coops are still difficult to access and 
>>>>> short 
>>>>> of nicer parts because of shortages. I put my bike snob self aside to 
>>>>> build 
>>>>> the cheapest possible version keeping to somewhat RIV spirit. 
>>>>>
>>>>> 65cm frame (im about 6ft 1in) I love the fit. 
>>>>> Alex Adventurer 2 rims laced to used XTR disc, and 2nd hand SON disc 
>>>>> (my biggest expense) Random recut spokes for budgets. 
>>>>> Hand me down Racing Ralph and Nobby Nic
>>>>> Brooks ive had for 15+ years 
>>>>> Altus rear DR 
>>>>> Suntour barcon (doesnt seem to like the spring of the altus) 
>>>>> 2x KMC chains - because I guess that is a thing 
>>>>> Cheap AVID levers
>>>>> Losco Bars, my favorite bar ever. 
>>>>> 120mm nitto stem with shim that creaks non stop 
>>>>> ALIEXPRESS cranks mimicing the Silver cranks gearing and sprocket 
>>>>> guard 
>>>>> Cheapest Shimano V brakes 
>>>>> AliExpress brake lever converters that I just use as a pulley now 
>>>>> ESI grips 
>>>>> Odyssey BMX petals 
>>>>> Sinkhole Montreal Custom Bar Bag 
>>>>>
>>>>> The pink parts started off as a joke and because they're spares from a 
>>>>> BMX bike project that got canned. Now I am kind of into it. I need to 
>>>>> find 
>>>>> a cheapish headlight, and would like to splurge on Simworks Flat 65 
>>>>> fenders 
>>>>> for when I move back to the coast. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Once I get some camping trips in I need to decide how to carry camping 
>>>>> gear. Front and rear bags only? Front basket and panniers? who knows! 
>>>>> half 
>>>>> the fun. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of fun. I cannot believe how nice this rides. It tracks great 
>>>>> at speed, grips well on loose steep climbs, front end stays down during 
>>>>> climbing. And in general just so comfortable. I was skeptical going for 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> 65 frame being only a bit over 6ft. With advice from Will at Riv, I was 
>>>>> able to get a good enough estimate to know I'd fit minimally. It's nice 
>>>>> having so much leeway to move the bars up and down and a good amount of 
>>>>> forward and backwards for leverage and comfort. I honestly just really 
>>>>> like 
>>>>> this bike. I cant wait to get camping.
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: PXL_20220530_144915904.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: 65cm Clem Smith Jr Build / First ride

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

The low is the way to go, here's my 65 high for 
reference- https://photos.app.goo.gl/uxqm63W2nB5scvmg7
Sturdy bike for sure, rides a lot bier than other 65s out there.
-Kai

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 1:33:55 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> oh! you are right - 64. I think I measured seat tube center to top which 
> is about 65 and it stuck in my brain :) 
>
> The length is only 25mm difference between the 59 and the 64. That was my 
> biggest determining factor, as Will confirmed the seatpost would be able to 
> be low enough to accommodate my PBH. Plenty of room for stopping and 
> jumping off mid climb :) 
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 11:22:59 AM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>> “6’1” on a 65 Clem Smith Jr?!”, is what I said to myself in disbelief 﫢, 
>> but seeing the photo wiped away my fears. To be overly technical, 65s only 
>> came in H, H as in the top tube was all the way there, and as someone on 
>> the upper end of the 6’s with a 65 Clem H, I feared for your abrupt stops…
>> But yeah, photos tell all, and specifically, that’s a 64, and a beautiful 
>> one at that.
>> Enjoy!
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 12:19:19 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy all, 
>>>
>>> We are in new bike season, and hope to see lots of posts soon! Came 
>>> across it for sale from a RBW poster this winter. Third hand I think. Since 
>>> I spent most of my disposable income on it, Ive been doing my best to build 
>>> it as inexpensively as possible given costs of parts in Canada are 
>>> outrageous and hard to find, Coops are still difficult to access and short 
>>> of nicer parts because of shortages. I put my bike snob self aside to build 
>>> the cheapest possible version keeping to somewhat RIV spirit. 
>>>
>>> 65cm frame (im about 6ft 1in) I love the fit. 
>>> Alex Adventurer 2 rims laced to used XTR disc, and 2nd hand SON disc (my 
>>> biggest expense) Random recut spokes for budgets. 
>>> Hand me down Racing Ralph and Nobby Nic
>>> Brooks ive had for 15+ years 
>>> Altus rear DR 
>>> Suntour barcon (doesnt seem to like the spring of the altus) 
>>> 2x KMC chains - because I guess that is a thing 
>>> Cheap AVID levers
>>> Losco Bars, my favorite bar ever. 
>>> 120mm nitto stem with shim that creaks non stop 
>>> ALIEXPRESS cranks mimicing the Silver cranks gearing and sprocket guard 
>>> Cheapest Shimano V brakes 
>>> AliExpress brake lever converters that I just use as a pulley now 
>>> ESI grips 
>>> Odyssey BMX petals 
>>> Sinkhole Montreal Custom Bar Bag 
>>>
>>> The pink parts started off as a joke and because they're spares from a 
>>> BMX bike project that got canned. Now I am kind of into it. I need to find 
>>> a cheapish headlight, and would like to splurge on Simworks Flat 65 fenders 
>>> for when I move back to the coast. 
>>>
>>> Once I get some camping trips in I need to decide how to carry camping 
>>> gear. Front and rear bags only? Front basket and panniers? who knows! half 
>>> the fun. 
>>>
>>> Speaking of fun. I cannot believe how nice this rides. It tracks great 
>>> at speed, grips well on loose steep climbs, front end stays down during 
>>> climbing. And in general just so comfortable. I was skeptical going for the 
>>> 65 frame being only a bit over 6ft. With advice from Will at Riv, I was 
>>> able to get a good enough estimate to know I'd fit minimally. It's nice 
>>> having so much leeway to move the bars up and down and a good amount of 
>>> forward and backwards for leverage and comfort. I honestly just really like 
>>> this bike. I cant wait to get camping.
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20220530_144915904.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: 65cm Clem Smith Jr Build / First ride

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

“6’1” on a 65 Clem Smith Jr?!”, is what I said to myself in disbelief 﫢, 
but seeing the photo wiped away my fears. To be overly technical, 65s only 
came in H, H as in the top tube was all the way there, and as someone on 
the upper end of the 6’s with a 65 Clem H, I feared for your abrupt stops…
But yeah, photos tell all, and specifically, that’s a 64, and a beautiful 
one at that.
Enjoy!
-Kai

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 12:19:19 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> Howdy all, 
>
> We are in new bike season, and hope to see lots of posts soon! Came across 
> it for sale from a RBW poster this winter. Third hand I think. Since I 
> spent most of my disposable income on it, Ive been doing my best to build 
> it as inexpensively as possible given costs of parts in Canada are 
> outrageous and hard to find, Coops are still difficult to access and short 
> of nicer parts because of shortages. I put my bike snob self aside to build 
> the cheapest possible version keeping to somewhat RIV spirit. 
>
> 65cm frame (im about 6ft 1in) I love the fit. 
> Alex Adventurer 2 rims laced to used XTR disc, and 2nd hand SON disc (my 
> biggest expense) Random recut spokes for budgets. 
> Hand me down Racing Ralph and Nobby Nic
> Brooks ive had for 15+ years 
> Altus rear DR 
> Suntour barcon (doesnt seem to like the spring of the altus) 
> 2x KMC chains - because I guess that is a thing 
> Cheap AVID levers
> Losco Bars, my favorite bar ever. 
> 120mm nitto stem with shim that creaks non stop 
> ALIEXPRESS cranks mimicing the Silver cranks gearing and sprocket guard 
> Cheapest Shimano V brakes 
> AliExpress brake lever converters that I just use as a pulley now 
> ESI grips 
> Odyssey BMX petals 
> Sinkhole Montreal Custom Bar Bag 
>
> The pink parts started off as a joke and because they're spares from a BMX 
> bike project that got canned. Now I am kind of into it. I need to find a 
> cheapish headlight, and would like to splurge on Simworks Flat 65 fenders 
> for when I move back to the coast. 
>
> Once I get some camping trips in I need to decide how to carry camping 
> gear. Front and rear bags only? Front basket and panniers? who knows! half 
> the fun. 
>
> Speaking of fun. I cannot believe how nice this rides. It tracks great at 
> speed, grips well on loose steep climbs, front end stays down during 
> climbing. And in general just so comfortable. I was skeptical going for the 
> 65 frame being only a bit over 6ft. With advice from Will at Riv, I was 
> able to get a good enough estimate to know I'd fit minimally. It's nice 
> having so much leeway to move the bars up and down and a good amount of 
> forward and backwards for leverage and comfort. I honestly just really like 
> this bike. I cant wait to get camping.
>
> [image: PXL_20220530_144915904.jpg]
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Get the seller to drop it by a bikeshop, that worked for me on my recent 
bike score. Apparently there were people trying to work stuff out with the 
seller (in my case), but I was the one who said take my money first, and 
made it relatively easy for them...
It's a win/win, and that Yves is a smoking deal
-Kai

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 12:56:52 PM UTC-4 Max S wrote:

> I'd buy that Yves in Seattle – could anyone facilitate?.. 
>
> - Max "Yves for my one-and-only" in A2
>
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Yves Gomez 
>> 52cm 
>> 1000 
>> Seattle, WA 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1418193641964641 
>>
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr. H 
>> 59cm 
>> 1200 
>> Grand Rapids, MI 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/720864229090374 
>>
>>
>> A. Homer Hilsen 
>> 63cm 
>> 1500 
>> Fairhope, AL 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1164260631083222 
>>
>>
>> A. Homer Hilsen 
>> 59cm 
>> 2600 
>> West Los Angeles, CA 
>>
>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-bicycle-works/7479040662.html
>>  
>>
>>
>> Rambouillet 
>> 54cm 
>> 2250 
>> Arcata, CA 
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/d/arcata-rivendell-rambouillet/7475750041.html
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Susie front load

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

And every barking slappy drops grams! Nice rig.
-Kai

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 12:16:23 PM UTC-4 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> This is the exact setup I have on my Susie. The Pass and Stow is excellent 
> for use with panniers and a basket or just the platform. Here's my setup I 
> used for a long trip last summer. I would say the bike handles best with 
> weight balanced front and rear. Somewhere in the 60/40 or 65/35 range is 
> great. The large saddlebag is an ideal counterweight. If you're not toting 
> a skateboard around on your trips, it's very easy to get a good weight 
> distribution with this setup. Without the panniers, the same setup makes 
> for a great commute bike.
>
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 10:37:07 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’m interested in this as well. I think a good part of it comes down to 
>> handling preferences. Some have said it handles great with a front load and 
>> others said it was terrible. I picked up a Pass and Stow rack for my Susie. 
>> I plan to use panniers more than the flat rack but that will depend on 
>> handling. Can’t wait to get this frame and put it together to find out!
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 2:47:31 PM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> Any one have experience front loading a Susie for camping. I like 
>>> keeping an eye on my stuff. Was thinking of a basket and two panniers up 
>>> front as a set up. 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Hillibikes are so close!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

If anyone's wanting to tour with their hillibike and are looking for a 
Cliffhanger/SON dynamo wheel in 650b, look no further than here. I'm 
selling one for $3000 (Hubbahubbah attached, with all the other stuff you 
might expect)
-Kai

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:46:37 AM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think the Cliffhanger is about the only option for these things. I have 
> a set of Teravail Ehline 2.5” mounted to mine ready to add tubeless 
> sealant. Just a note, bot front and rear held air for over a week before 
> starting to lose pressure without sealant. Very good sign I’d say. 
>
> I believe I read something where Grant said Velocity is working on a wider 
> version of the Cliffhanger? Maybe I imagined it. But I would be interested 
> in something like a 30i rim for going with a 2.8” tire in the future! 
> Sometimes you want more float. 
>
> I am also hoping for an update today…
> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 5:02:38 AM UTC-7 wallye...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> What about rim/tires?
>> For rims it'll be Velocity Cliffhangers.  For rubber it's either Schwalbe 
>> Johnny Watts or Surly Extra Terrestrials as options.
>> Here's hoping for an email update today...
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 2:13:45 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> The Hive mind here is real. I was thinking the T-rack would be perfect 
>>> on the Susie since it isn't supposed to carry much weight. I thought a 
>>> t-rack on the front fork (the strongest part) would be the safest way to 
>>> have a basket and some manythings cages for a 
>>> lightweight/overnighter/explore type of ride.
>>> I hope there is some news in the email tomorrow.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Still working out the details on the 68 Rambouillet, but here's it before I 
put a S84 post, B68 (raised the stem a bit, but my sit bones are wide 
enough to get down with the width), and a new 11-28 cassette on this 
morning. https://photos.app.goo.gl/PgRmHczNNTkrGCra7
I'd like to thank Matthew for all the work in compiling these sale lists. 
Almost spent $600 on a Raleigh that only fit 28's!! 
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
-Kai

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 1:44:44 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Quickbeam: 62cm
> 1800
> Jersey Shore, NJ
>
> https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/d/allenhurst-rivendell-quickbeam/7459831181.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 62cm
> 1600
> Stroudsburg, PA
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/255444602628
>
> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
> 659 / 1500 reserve
> Long Beach, CA
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294884353828
>
> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 58cm
> 1300
> Oakland, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/oakland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-58-cm/7458838156.html
>
>
> A. Homer Hilsen F/F/HS: 58cm
> 1700
> Los Angeles, CA
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294890909002
>
> A. Homer Hilsen: 59cm
> 2785
> San Clemente, CA
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175163962992
>
> A. Homer Hilsen: 59cm
> 2800
> West Los Angeles, CA
>
> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-bicycle-works/7455804710.html
>
>
> Road Standard F/F: 54cm
> 1999
> Louisville, KY
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/194937971001
>
> Romulus: 57cm
> 2250
> Thousand Oaks, CA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1004533483793238
>
>
> Rambouillet: 60cm
> 1400
> Kalamazoo, MI
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/379471227101586
>
> Rambouillet: 68cm
> 600
> Nashville, TN
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/496533448593477
>
>
> Frank Jones Sr.: 57cm
> 2200
> Portland, OR
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839
>
>
> Bleriot: 61cm
> 2300
> Atlanta, GA
>
> https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/d/decatur-rivendell-bleriot-650b/7461829652.html
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
> 2000
> Indianapolis, IN
>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7453916725.html
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
> 2500
> Iowa City, IA
>
> https://iowacity.craigslist.org/bik/d/iowa-city-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-59cm/7464257188.html
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
> 999
> Annandale, VA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/346785007277297
>
> Clem Smith Jr. Clementine: 45cm
> 2000
> Brentwood, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/knightsen-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7464241455.html
>
> Clem Smith Jr.: 52cm
> 2000
> SFBA, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/dearing-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7464241042.html
>
> Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
> 2400
> Livermore, CA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221
>
>
> Platypus: 60cm
> 2100
> Phoenix, AZ
>
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/bik/d/san-tan-valley-rivendell-lugged-bicycle/7454753122.html

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

There's this- https://bikecoop.nyc/ but it lacks the home base feel that 
would be nice in a rental. Much cheaper though...
-Kai


On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:15:45 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> We had a nice meet up yesterday at the Spritzenhaus (gotta love that 
> name): Kai, Michael, Stephan and me, all on Rivendells from various eras.
> To all New Yorkersanyone interested in sharing some rental space to 
> set up as a workshop? My guest bedroom is becoming overrun with stuff. 
> Could be in Brooklyn, upper Manhattanjust need easy access via bike. 
> I'm envisioning a bike shop like atmosphere, work bench with vise (Yeh), 
> shared tools and spare parts. Small frig with libations, used couch for a 
> nap, etc.
>
> Anyone else have this pipe dream? Or a lead on some space?
>
> Alan
> UWS
>
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 1:36:50 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>
>>  (sorry if this is a double send).  
>>
>> hey all,
>>
>> i'm sad to miss this get together, sounds like there is a decent number!  
>>  as far as organizing, i'd propose a sheet like this 
>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AA-OoyAF6t9ais0HhXzQR8hmOIOKIyUl-pIlOM9bC54/edit#gid=634347005>,
>>  
>> where people can add their names and links to parts swap, etc. we can also 
>> use it as a shared calendar for activities.
>>
>> if you wanna test it, here's the link to the form 
>> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkHWX27Bqkr2M344BLFUHyptbjKCO81teVqZOeM_-VRhtXZQ/viewform>
>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:41:40 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in for the meetup, looking forward to it!
>>>
>>> -Stephen
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Might be a little late, coming from the dentist, hopefully not numb, 
>>>> maybe with drop bars...
>>>> -Kai
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good Morning All,
>>>>> I'm hoping that tomorrow will be better for some of you, at least. I 
>>>>> suggest meeting at the Spritzen House, 33 Nassau st, Greenpoint, around 
>>>>> 5-6 
>>>>> pm. Not sure where a good ride would be in late afternoon NYC traffic, 
>>>>> but 
>>>>> we can discuss ideas for future rides depending on when folks are 
>>>>> available. I'm thinking tomorrow as meet and greet thing...the beer and 
>>>>> sausage selection is excellent. 
>>>>> I also think it would be fun to bring a list, written or mental, of 
>>>>> parts/bikes wanting to sell/exchange/give away/etc. We all have stuff 
>>>>> lying 
>>>>> around waiting for a better life. For me, its drop bars.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's see a show of hands!
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan UWS
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:55:55 AM UTC-4 jakob.b...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Brooklyn Riv riders. I just moved here from San Francisco 3 weeks 
>>>>>> ago, game for some rides! Looks like one is in the works next Wednesday, 
>>>>>> 27th? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Jake/ Mustard Clem H/ Crown Heights
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 
>>>>>>> years ago, I think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact 
>>>>>>> I’ve 
>>>>>>> bought and sold a few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask 
>>>>>>> names! 
>>>>>>> We could each bring a mental list of things we want to either buy or 
>>>>>>> sell, 
>>>>>>> could be fun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>>>>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from 
>>>>>>> Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
>

[RBW] Re: Moderators

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I’m no moderator, but I've come to understand that selling on here 
necessitates that you participates in discussions outside your sale posts. 
Someone might be keeping score, but probably not. If your prices are good, 
I personally hope you get away with a lot of bending. 
Happy Rolling
-Kai
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 3:20:10 PM UTC-4 wol...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> How/when do I become approved to post a "For Sale" posting?

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Might be a little late, coming from the dentist, hopefully not numb, maybe 
with drop bars...
-Kai

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Good Morning All,
> I'm hoping that tomorrow will be better for some of you, at least. I 
> suggest meeting at the Spritzen House, 33 Nassau st, Greenpoint, around 5-6 
> pm. Not sure where a good ride would be in late afternoon NYC traffic, but 
> we can discuss ideas for future rides depending on when folks are 
> available. I'm thinking tomorrow as meet and greet thing...the beer and 
> sausage selection is excellent. 
> I also think it would be fun to bring a list, written or mental, of 
> parts/bikes wanting to sell/exchange/give away/etc. We all have stuff lying 
> around waiting for a better life. For me, its drop bars.
>
> Let's see a show of hands!
>
> Alan UWS
>
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:55:55 AM UTC-4 jakob.b...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Brooklyn Riv riders. I just moved here from San Francisco 3 weeks ago, 
>> game for some rides! Looks like one is in the works next Wednesday, 27th? 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jake/ Mustard Clem H/ Crown Heights
>>
>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 years 
>>> ago, I think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact I’ve bought 
>>> and sold a few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask names! We 
>>> could each bring a mental list of things we want to either buy or sell, 
>>> could be fun.
>>>
>>> Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from 
>>> Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
>>> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was there 
>>> on a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new old Ram 
>>> rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
>>> -Kai
>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on 
>>>> Wednesdays so I thought I’d ask.
>>>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next 
>>>> week or another day.
>>>>
>>>> stephen
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Okay, got it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>>>>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>>>>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>>>>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>>>>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>>>>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in 
>>>>>> Greenpoint? Say 4 or 5ish?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from 
>>>>>>> Eastern Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay 
>>>>>>> Greenway around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from Uptown. 
6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was there on 
a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new old Ram 
rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
-Kai
On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on Wednesdays 
> so I thought I’d ask.
> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next week 
> or another day.
>
> stephen
>
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Okay, got it.
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>
>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in 
>>> Greenpoint? Say 4 or 5ish?
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>>>
>>>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
>>>> Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway 
>>>> around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>>>>> everyone else could.
>>>>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>>>>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan
>>>>> UWS
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done 
>>>>> the ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike 
>>>>> lanes along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear 
>>>>> your helmet inside :)
>>>>>
>>>>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding 
>>>>> pass ft tilden into town.
>>>>>
>>>>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the 
>>>>> summer and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>>>>>
>>>>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep 
>>>>> things light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned 
>>>>> e.g. 
>>>>> "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping 
>>>>>> and biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>>>>>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>>>>>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>>>>>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out 
>>>>>>> there. who else is up for it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -stephen
>>

[RBW] Re: ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Here’s an idea- a meet up at the Kissena Velodrome and some cruising around 
the trails that surround it. Would be fun to get in some races with baskets 
and saddlesacks flying around. Plus, Queens is neutral territory for the 
Brooklyn and Manhattan gangs.
-Kai

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:52:17 AM UTC-4 Jacob wrote:

> Good morning
>
> I'd like to get in on this as well.
> Murray Hill // Clem H
>
> Thanks
> Jacob
>
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 11:39:21 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd be in for a ride. I'm on the UWS and I have an Appaloosa.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> I've just moved up to brooklyn with a ram, would love to get in on rides 
>>> and to connect with riders here. Maybe its best to get a ride organized 
>>> through this thread first and then figure out a good way to keep connected? 
>>> I'm up for anything from that big bridge route kai suggested way back to 
>>> just doing a lap around prospect park. I rode out to forest park yesterday 
>>> while the weather was nice. 
>>>
>>> -stephen
>>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:15:05 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It’s too hot now, we’ve missed our one day of comfort…
>>>> -Kai (on the clem of late, as rosco’s brake track has worn out. Ram’s 
>>>> in the spa)
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hey all, sorry for letting this post sleep, now that weather is 
>>>>> warming up i'm building up courage to commute to work!   here's the list 
>>>>> of 
>>>>> folks that responded (hope this is ok, you all posted publicly above):
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam / BedStuy / Joe Appaloosa
>>>>> Chase / BedStuy / Clem L & Sam
>>>>> Patch / E. Wiliamsburg / Quickbeam
>>>>> Alan / UWS /
>>>>> Kai / E. Williamsburg / Mixte + (bargain) Ram!
>>>>> Austin / ** / Roadini
>>>>> Minh / Park Slope / Quickbeam
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that weather is warming up, anyone want to start 
>>>>> arranging/proposing rides, i dunno if it needs to be super formal.  As 
>>>>> far 
>>>>> as organizing methods, any votes?  keep it in this post, create a 
>>>>> sub-group?   private email list?
>>>>>
>>>>> And for any new folks that didnt see this originally, feel free to 
>>>>> jump in, we are not trying to replace the group, but trying to create a 
>>>>> smaller thread for hyper-local stuff like rides, parts swap etc.  
>>>>>
>>>>> weather is breaking so lets get out there!  maybe Kai will bring that 
>>>>> new Ram!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:29:41 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also interested! Also in Bed Stuy with my Joe Appaloosa!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-5 chase@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keep me posted if some rides get organized, for sure interested. I 
>>>>>>> am in Bed Stuy with a Clem L and a Sam. Sounds fun! Chase
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 6:11:40 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I cannot do any riding with the group on a regular basis, seeing 
>>>>>>>> that I live about 90 miles south in Philadelphia, but if the group 
>>>>>>>> comes 
>>>>>>>> over to the NJ side for a ride or part of ride, I'd join you.  It's 
>>>>>>>> always 
>>>>>>>> nice meeting like minded people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kai, I love your Roscoe mixte, and especially your homemade weaved 
>>>>>>>> basket.  That is art to my eyes.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roberta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:41:51 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. 
>>>>>>>> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cold rubber is

Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Those Chocomooses look right and proper.  
-Kai

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 9:19:10 AM UTC-4 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I took the Hunq out to Stokes State Forest for an afternoon of bikefishing 
> and scouting for an overnight next month.  It was super nice - I'm really 
> liking the hand positions of the Choco Moose bars and their resistance to 
> spinning on rough trails.  I have some Fizik gel strips under the cloth 
> tape.  Good times.
>
> [image: IMG_20220412_125620395_HDR.jpg]
> [image: IMG_20220412_125659408_HDR.jpg][image: 
> IMG_20220412_152602361_HDR.jpg]
> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 10:31:55 AM UTC-4 James M wrote:
>
>> It really is special.  I just got fabric in the mail to start sewing up a 
>> frame bag for that upper triangle!
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 2:06:10 PM UTC-4 Jennings wrote:
>>
>>> Hunq is by far my favorite.  My keep forever bike.  
>>>
>>> [image: HUNQ.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:51:18 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Third time's the charm?

 [image: Screenshot 2022-02-28 095048.png]

 On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:48:37 AM UTC-5 James M wrote:

> [image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-5 James M wrote:
>
>> Decided to switch things up on my Hunq - the Ron's bar is cool, but 
>> didn't have the additional forward hand position I needed.  Decided to 
>> switch over to the Choco-moose (thanks, Kai!) and it's definitely a 
>> better 
>> fit for me.  A little more width on the back would be nice, probably 
>> noticing it more coming from the Ron's, but the 2.5 hand positions I'm 
>> getting from this are really good so far!
>>
>> [image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

It’s too hot now, we’ve missed our one day of comfort…
-Kai (on the clem of late, as rosco’s brake track has worn out. Ram’s in 
the spa)

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:

> hey all, sorry for letting this post sleep, now that weather is warming up 
> i'm building up courage to commute to work!   here's the list of folks that 
> responded (hope this is ok, you all posted publicly above):
>
> Adam / BedStuy / Joe Appaloosa
> Chase / BedStuy / Clem L & Sam
> Patch / E. Wiliamsburg / Quickbeam
> Alan / UWS /
> Kai / E. Williamsburg / Mixte + (bargain) Ram!
> Austin / ** / Roadini
> Minh / Park Slope / Quickbeam
>
> Now that weather is warming up, anyone want to start arranging/proposing 
> rides, i dunno if it needs to be super formal.  As far as organizing 
> methods, any votes?  keep it in this post, create a sub-group?   private 
> email list?
>
> And for any new folks that didnt see this originally, feel free to jump 
> in, we are not trying to replace the group, but trying to create a smaller 
> thread for hyper-local stuff like rides, parts swap etc.  
>
> weather is breaking so lets get out there!  maybe Kai will bring that new 
> Ram!
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:29:41 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Also interested! Also in Bed Stuy with my Joe Appaloosa!
>>
>> On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-5 chase@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Keep me posted if some rides get organized, for sure interested. I am in 
>>> Bed Stuy with a Clem L and a Sam. Sounds fun! Chase
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 6:11:40 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>>
>>>> I cannot do any riding with the group on a regular basis, seeing that I 
>>>> live about 90 miles south in Philadelphia, but if the group comes over to 
>>>> the NJ side for a ride or part of ride, I'd join you.  It's always nice 
>>>> meeting like minded people.
>>>>
>>>> Kai, I love your Roscoe mixte, and especially your homemade weaved 
>>>> basket.  That is art to my eyes.  
>>>>
>>>> Roberta
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:41:51 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>>> NY wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cold rubber is fast rubber, let's shred! (says the guy with two kids 
>>>>> and a job that burns the present daylight hours away)
>>>>> I'd like to do a ride that started with a ferry across the river to 
>>>>> Jersey City, winding our way up to the George Washington bridge. From 
>>>>> there 
>>>>> we could head north over the Hudson bridge to the Bronx, then weave our 
>>>>> way 
>>>>> down the Harlem River and East river, crossing every bridge we can. Every 
>>>>> crossing possible might be fun? Or something less ridiculous would be 
>>>>> fine, 
>>>>> if you're into that sort of thing...
>>>>> Shirley Chisholm gravel grinder! (or hoagies, heros, subs, whatevs)
>>>>> -Kai, of Williamsburg East and a sloppily dressed Mixte, among others
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:25:01 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, my name is Minh and i'm on the lookout for other Brooklyn 
>>>>>> Riv'sters, maybe we can start a gang, and by gang i mean a bunch of slow 
>>>>>> riders that will use our age, wisdom and sharply appointed bikes to 
>>>>>> intimidate the go-fast riders in Prospect Park.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In all seriousness, i've got a Quickbeam here that i am desperately 
>>>>>> trying to justify keeping in this cramped Park Slope apartment.  
>>>>>> Something 
>>>>>> that would go a long way towards that is to get out and ride with 
>>>>>> like-minded folks.   Maybe when it gets warmer we can do a ride out of 
>>>>>> town?  I know i've seen a sharply dressed Riv Mixte riding thru the 
>>>>>> park, 
>>>>>> if you see me on my QB--you'll know its me from the over the top 
>>>>>> accessories, please say hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is interesting please reply here, i'll collect names and we 
>>>>>> can start a local mini thread? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On a related note have a small pile of bike parts that i'm not likely 
>>>>>> to use that i'd like to donate, if anyone is aware of a co-op that is 
>>>>>> open 
>>>>>> taking donations, please let me know!
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Custom $950

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

https://youtu.be/Tm4n9hl0oCM
more april fun from transportation alternatives
-Kai

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 7:40:11 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> Rare adjustable angle lugs and telescoping adjustable length chainstays so 
> you always have the geometry that you want. Adjustable trail forks. 
> Ultralight Unobtanium tubing. Special Rene Herse self-truing wheelset with 
> Cross-wind spokes
> Happy April Fools Day!
>
> Laing
>

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[RBW] Re: Nashville bike purchase assistance please

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

it is!

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:42:51 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nice, Kai! Glad you could get this worked out. Is this the $600 Ram from 
> the other thread? 
>
> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:32:38 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> All set! Halcyon bicycles, who sound great on the phone and were 
>> seconded, thirded and fourthed by responders, will be boxing it up for me.
>> Thank you to all
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:43:08 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivfolk!
>>> I need to buy a bike located in Nashville, but I’m in New York..
>>> Anyone in or around Nashville willing to lend some time in trade for 
>>> something like goods or money? Or maybe you know a decent shop to get the 
>>> bike packed up at? 
>>> Maybe you wouldn’t mind holding a big beautiful creamsicle orange Ram 
>>> until I can figure something out?
>>> Lemme know at kaivierstra AT gmail DOT com
>>> Many thanks
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Nashville bike purchase assistance please

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

And yes, the skinwall/blackwall thing's coming in hott!

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> pictures make everything better-
> [image: IMG_0224.jpg]
> I'm suuuper excited for this pizza cutter...
> -Kai
> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:32:38 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> All set! Halcyon bicycles, who sound great on the phone and were 
>> seconded, thirded and fourthed by responders, will be boxing it up for me.
>> Thank you to all
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:43:08 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivfolk!
>>> I need to buy a bike located in Nashville, but I’m in New York..
>>> Anyone in or around Nashville willing to lend some time in trade for 
>>> something like goods or money? Or maybe you know a decent shop to get the 
>>> bike packed up at? 
>>> Maybe you wouldn’t mind holding a big beautiful creamsicle orange Ram 
>>> until I can figure something out?
>>> Lemme know at kaivierstra AT gmail DOT com
>>> Many thanks
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Nashville bike purchase assistance please

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

All set! Halcyon bicycles, who sound great on the phone and were seconded, 
thirded and fourthed by responders, will be boxing it up for me.
Thank you to all
-Kai

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:43:08 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Hi Rivfolk!
> I need to buy a bike located in Nashville, but I’m in New York..
> Anyone in or around Nashville willing to lend some time in trade for 
> something like goods or money? Or maybe you know a decent shop to get the 
> bike packed up at? 
> Maybe you wouldn’t mind holding a big beautiful creamsicle orange Ram 
> until I can figure something out?
> Lemme know at kaivierstra AT gmail DOT com
> Many thanks
> -Kai
>

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[RBW] Nashville bike purchase assistance please

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Hi Rivfolk!
I need to buy a bike located in Nashville, but I’m in New York..
Anyone in or around Nashville willing to lend some time in trade for 
something like goods or money? Or maybe you know a decent shop to get the 
bike packed up at? 
Maybe you wouldn’t mind holding a big beautiful creamsicle orange Ram until 
I can figure something out?
Lemme know at kaivierstra AT gmail DOT com
Many thanks
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: Flat Pedal Users: Favorite size/shape?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I love V.P. pedals until they start going bad, which is pretty quick in my 
experience. Needing to rebuild a pedal regularly gets in the way of my 
minimal maintenance schedule, so I decided to try these Fookers- 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/NXPs7HwaAgJwDU8V9 because they’re 
cheap/disposable. To my surprise, they’re not disposable. They’re long 
lasting, totally great (and cheap!). Maybe not the most stylish, but I 
usually can’t see them…
-Kai

On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 9:24:43 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:

> Hi all.
> I've been riding VP Vice pedals for a few years now. It took a long while 
> (aprx. a year) to get used to riding flats, coming from Speedplay Frogs. 
> Finally, it took, and I'm happy on the flats for my commuter (Sam Hill).
>
> However, the Vice have developed play, rattle a bit, and generally feel 
> gritty, and I have been experimenting with different ideas. I've recently 
> used the old MKS Touring pedals, and RMX sneaker pedals. These are okay, 
> but what I've discovered is that for my riding,  flats without connection 
> (no clips/straps, powergrips) feel better underfoot with a fairly large 
> platform, and low stack height,  like the Vice. And yet I know many of you 
> enjoy the Riv-approved MKS Gamma, lambda, and Allways models. All of these 
> appear to be taller, and all are narrower than the vice. And yet...I 
> wonder: how big is big enough? I'm not racing downhill, fully padded and 
> helmeted, on a double boinger, like my neice. I just ride my bike here and 
> there, long distances, when time allows.
>
> I always want to support Riv when possible. But I am looking at many other 
> pedals that Riv does not sell. What are some of your favorites, and why? 
> For what use? If you use the aforementioned MKS pedals, what is your 
> opinion of them? Do you like the size/shape? I'm wondering if the length of 
> the pedal is more important than the width. The Gamma, Lambda, and Allways, 
> for instance, are all longer than the Vice, while being slimmer. 
>
> Thanks.
> John
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That Hunq's worth it for the fork alone. Definitely not JRA damage..
-Kai

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 2:05:21 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> Hunqapillar in need of repair, $50. 
> 53cm
> Portland, OR
>
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-hunqapillar-needs/7457917053.html
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Roaduno 2022 concepts

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Dibs on the big one!!
If I manage to pick one up, I like the idea of the bullmoose. Currently 
have my Clem H set up with them and another set hanging from the rafters. 
Would love love love love a chocomoose with a little less rise, or a 
stachamoose...
Kinda hoping they're all tigged, but lugs'll do
-Kai

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-5 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> My Chocomoose is currently installed on a 68cm Schwinn Traveler built into 
> a single speed and kind of serving as a placeholder for a build I 
> eventually hope to move over to a RoadUno... atleast the bars/inverse 
> levers, and saddle.
> I have mine currently slammed, though it's been adjusted at times between 
> slammed and an inch or two of exposed quill and re-slammed again recently 
> while fitting a basket.  The frame has a 62.5cm top tube ctc with 73deg 
> parallel angles and honestly not sure how this would correlate or compare 
> to whatever the largest RoadUno geomety will be but I'd anticipate a 
> similarly slammed Chocomoose on my own build with Riv's tall headtubes and 
> some extra standover with slope.  
>
> After trying a few different builds I'm really enjoying the uninterrupted 
> grip using the inverse levers on the Chocomoose and definitely plan to try 
> these first.
>
> Best,
> Brian Cole
> Lawrenceville NJ
>
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 12:14:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I could pull my Albastache cockpit off my RB1 beater.  That's an option.  
>> I did like the ChocoMoose that came on my Appaloosa, but I needed to slam 
>> it to get it low enough.  I'll have to look at the numbers...
>>
>> BLinEC
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:44:24 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> If I wanted a standard drop type of experience I would go with 
>>> Albastache. If I wanted the full sweptback experience the Losco and Choco 
>>> bars are my favorite road sweptback bar.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 11:27:08 AM UTC-5 tommc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 either bullmoose bars, or run some North Road bars upside down...

 On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:06:38 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> There was an Instagram post showing that Riv has prototype samples of 
> all sizes of RoadUno, inviting us to come test ride them.  I just emailed 
> Will to find out if they really have a 57 ready to test ride for me.  Has 
> anybody ridden one at RBWHQ?
>
> I haven't seen numbers yet, but since they say "designed for swept 
> bars" I'm going to take them at their word that I won't be putting drops 
> on 
> a RoadUno.  I think my urbanscorcher version of a RoadUno might have Riv 
> Bullmoose bars.  What would you run?  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>


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[RBW] Re: Choco bar / brake lever advice?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

If you want a weird idea for reach 
adjustment- 
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/l-lWV_Sk5b0/m/1TJk4jbca2gJ
It worked (for reach adjustment, not as a lamp)
-Kai

On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 9:42:32 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> Does anyone have any experience with these L-shaped Dia Compe brake levers 
> intended for bullhorn-style handlebars, but perhaps suitable for 
> installation on a choco (or moustache) bars?   Do they work well (provide 
> adequate leverage, easy to reach, enough movement  without bottoming out 
> against the bar)?  Would they work with choco bars?  If so, would they work 
> better installed one direction versus another?  It seems they could be 
> installed with the hinge on the front section, forward of the bend, as 
> easily as at the end.
>
>
> https://www.euroasiaimports.com/productcart/pc/Dia-Compe-DC139-Brake-Lever-p14878.htm
>
> I'm trying to replace one of my numerous moustache bars with a choco moose 
> bar - mostly for the sake of variety, but partly because I thought they'd 
> be almost identical with the exception of the primary and secondary grip 
> positions being reversed - but it isn't quite working out that way.  
>
> Because the choco doesn't bend forward before coming back, and because the 
> fixed "stem" reach is effectively short, my hands want to rest at the curve 
> even in my upright/relaxed body position - so basically like a moustache 
> bar without a leaned-forward, aero, position and with the relaxed/default 
> position being forward of the straight section where a normal brake lever 
> would mount.  (Hope that makes sense)
>
> Combined with the fact that it's difficult to even find straight bar brake 
> levers at the moment  I'm wondering if these might work by giving me access 
> to  the brakes from multiple grip locations.  I suppose I could try drop 
> bar levers mounted forward of the curve, but that kind of defeats the point 
> of getting rid of the moustache bar, when I could achieve something similar 
> with a shorter stem.
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Choco-moose

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Lean times allover could free up my choco-mooses. They're great on my Clem, 
but it's currently wearing moosey-mooses. What say $180, pickupable in 
North Brooklyn or the UWS, or anywhere in between (midway of the GW?)
-Kai

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 2:45:45 PM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Even though I'm going to give my Ron's Ortho bars another shot on my Hunq 
> with a longer stem, I really want to try out the Choco-moose bars.  Anybody 
> have a set they want to let go of?  Preferably in the NY/NJ area so we 
> don't have to deal with shipping, which I assume will be a bear...
>
> James
>

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[RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

You're Stoked! and I'm very happy for you. Being able to bring your bike 
inside can be a blessing and a curse, what with condensation and such as 
you see in jolly Philadelphia. I'm fortunate to have a back lot at my job 
where I can stash my bike behind a locked gate, and as a museum laborer, 
it's not a huge deal if I'm a little sweaty upon arrival (I keep emergency 
clothes stashed under my seldom used desk though).
As for backpacks, throw that thing in the Skoookiill river. 

A Happy Rolling Roberta!
-Kai


On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:33:29 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> After living in the city for decades, my company moved its office and I 
> can finally bike or walk commute--just under 2 miles each way.   I've been 
> varying my method based on the weather (I don't like riding in the rain, 
> snow or ice) and both are fabulous ways to start and end the day, 
> physically and mentally.  Most of the ride is on streets with bike lanes.  
> I'll be riding one of my two step-through's--Platypus or She-Devil.  I can 
> take the bike into my office.
>
> I like using a backpack for walking, but not sure about riding.   What do 
> you use for a short commuter trips--backpack (current preference, not not 
> sure how hot I'll find it in the warmer months), pannier or saddle bag (I 
> have a Riv Small Saddlesack).  I have rack or rack and basket on the back 
> of each bike. I'll be carrying lunch, a change of clothes and shoes.
>
> I have lots of lights and reflectors on the bikes.  Any other suggestions?
>
> Roberta
>

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[RBW] Re: Please help me find a Rosco Bubbe MMM!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Jared,
I do have two. After getting run down by a distracted driver I had a 
thought that that event could've hurt my Rosco! (flesh heals, Roscos dont). 
So when the opportunity presented itself, I jumped, paying over retail for 
a little comfort.
I'm about to put some 2.35 Ice Spiker Pros on one, so it's so very 
necessary, but with all these cool new bikes on the horizon, I could maybe 
see one getting bumped, eventually... 
As Grant knew, there's a serious void in the super step through market, 
hopefully many more will follow to capitalize on the want/need.
-Kai

On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 8:31:30 PM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Kai,
>
> Don't you have 2 of those Roscos? 
>
> Thats my dream Rivendell so if you did want to at some point downsize I'd 
> be happy to entertain the idea
>
> I'm sure there's a list of people who have said the same thing, but add my 
> name to it if there's a sliver of possibility there.
>
> Joe,
>
> Good luck with your search, I always keep an eye out for a large Rosco 
> Step Thru, so I know where you're coming from. 
>
> You'll land one eventually, hopefully sooner than later!
>
> Best
> Jared in SLO, CA
>
> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 5:13:19 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> People will try to tell you different, but the truth is there's no better 
>> bike in the world than Rosco Bubbe step through...  Here's one of mine (of 
>> Will's design), probably too big for you- Rosco 
>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/5UqTJPoisD1FiHJc9>  
>> Good luck, never give up...
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I know this is a long, long, long-shot, but I am searching for a Rosco 
>>> like the ones in the photo below or as Bill L once called it, the Rosco 
>>> Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte. I spoke to Will about the frame and it ticks 
>>> off ALL the boxes for what I am looking for. 
>>>
>>> Supposedly there were two batches of 12 made. The first batch was a more 
>>> pale blue than the second. I couldn’t tell you which shade of blue is my 
>>> favorite color as they both are gorgeous. The lighter blue is my current 
>>> favorite but the darker reminds me more of the cerulean crayons that were 
>>> my favorite as a child. The size of the frame is perfect for my 85 PBH and 
>>> I'm told it’s able to do all the things I’d want to do with it. If I could 
>>> afford a custom, I get this bike made in either one of those shades of blue 
>>> but most likely the lighter shade.
>>>
>>> I suffered a shoulder injury lifting my lady’s lightweight road bike up 
>>> onto a roof rack. It has been a few months but unfortunately it still 
>>> hasn’t healed. Getting my Sam up and down the stairs at my house has become 
>>> a frightening chore, especially when loaded. I’m hoping that the lifter bar 
>>> will help prevent future injuries. My line of work requires me to hold a 
>>> boom microphone over my head 5 days a week so I need my shoulders in tip 
>>> top condition!
>>>
>>> I’ve been dreaming of a 650B go-everywhere-with-all-my-things bike 
>>> (GEWAMT?). After speaking with Vince about whether the medium 650B Gus 
>>> would be a good fit for me, he strongly suggested the large which is 
>>> designed for 700C wheels (not that it matters since I didn’t pre-order 
>>> one). The 53cm Atlantis is currently the ideal candidate, and a bike I’d 
>>> love to one day own since it’s designed around 650B, but I’d really like a 
>>> step through or at least a swoop tube, especially since this bike will 
>>> hopefully one day hold a child seat. (High top tube related trail injuries 
>>> might stand in the way of that plan).
>>>
>>> Again, I know its a long shot but I’m crossing my fingers that the kind 
>>> members here might keep an eye out for me if one pops up for sale. I 
>>> believe several of you folks own one and love them. If someone happens to 
>>> have one that’s gathering dust in the corner, I’d be happy to give it a 
>>> loving home!
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone,
>>>
>>> Joe Mullins
>>>
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
>>> [image: Rosco MMMs.png] 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Please help me find a Rosco Bubbe MMM!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

People will try to tell you different, but the truth is there's no better 
bike in the world than Rosco Bubbe step through...  Here's one of mine (of 
Will's design), probably too big for you- Rosco 
  
Good luck, never give up...
-Kai

On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know this is a long, long, long-shot, but I am searching for a Rosco 
> like the ones in the photo below or as Bill L once called it, the Rosco 
> Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte. I spoke to Will about the frame and it ticks 
> off ALL the boxes for what I am looking for. 
>
> Supposedly there were two batches of 12 made. The first batch was a more 
> pale blue than the second. I couldn’t tell you which shade of blue is my 
> favorite color as they both are gorgeous. The lighter blue is my current 
> favorite but the darker reminds me more of the cerulean crayons that were 
> my favorite as a child. The size of the frame is perfect for my 85 PBH and 
> I'm told it’s able to do all the things I’d want to do with it. If I could 
> afford a custom, I get this bike made in either one of those shades of blue 
> but most likely the lighter shade.
>
> I suffered a shoulder injury lifting my lady’s lightweight road bike up 
> onto a roof rack. It has been a few months but unfortunately it still 
> hasn’t healed. Getting my Sam up and down the stairs at my house has become 
> a frightening chore, especially when loaded. I’m hoping that the lifter bar 
> will help prevent future injuries. My line of work requires me to hold a 
> boom microphone over my head 5 days a week so I need my shoulders in tip 
> top condition!
>
> I’ve been dreaming of a 650B go-everywhere-with-all-my-things bike 
> (GEWAMT?). After speaking with Vince about whether the medium 650B Gus 
> would be a good fit for me, he strongly suggested the large which is 
> designed for 700C wheels (not that it matters since I didn’t pre-order 
> one). The 53cm Atlantis is currently the ideal candidate, and a bike I’d 
> love to one day own since it’s designed around 650B, but I’d really like a 
> step through or at least a swoop tube, especially since this bike will 
> hopefully one day hold a child seat. (High top tube related trail injuries 
> might stand in the way of that plan).
>
> Again, I know its a long shot but I’m crossing my fingers that the kind 
> members here might keep an eye out for me if one pops up for sale. I 
> believe several of you folks own one and love them. If someone happens to 
> have one that’s gathering dust in the corner, I’d be happy to give it a 
> loving home!
>
> Thanks everyone,
>
> Joe Mullins
>
> Los Angeles, CA
>
> [image: Rosco MMMs.png] 
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Cold rubber is fast rubber, let's shred! (says the guy with two kids and a 
job that burns the present daylight hours away)
I'd like to do a ride that started with a ferry across the river to Jersey 
City, winding our way up to the George Washington bridge. From there we 
could head north over the Hudson bridge to the Bronx, then weave our way 
down the Harlem River and East river, crossing every bridge we can. Every 
crossing possible might be fun? Or something less ridiculous would be fine, 
if you're into that sort of thing...
Shirley Chisholm gravel grinder! (or hoagies, heros, subs, whatevs)
-Kai, of Williamsburg East and a sloppily dressed Mixte, among others

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:25:01 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> Hi all, my name is Minh and i'm on the lookout for other Brooklyn 
> Riv'sters, maybe we can start a gang, and by gang i mean a bunch of slow 
> riders that will use our age, wisdom and sharply appointed bikes to 
> intimidate the go-fast riders in Prospect Park.  
>
> In all seriousness, i've got a Quickbeam here that i am desperately trying 
> to justify keeping in this cramped Park Slope apartment.  Something that 
> would go a long way towards that is to get out and ride with like-minded 
> folks.   Maybe when it gets warmer we can do a ride out of town?  I know 
> i've seen a sharply dressed Riv Mixte riding thru the park, if you see me 
> on my QB--you'll know its me from the over the top accessories, please say 
> hi!
>
> If this is interesting please reply here, i'll collect names and we can 
> start a local mini thread? 
>
> On a related note have a small pile of bike parts that i'm not likely to 
> use that i'd like to donate, if anyone is aware of a co-op that is open 
> taking donations, please let me know!
>

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