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Re: [RBW] Silver Hub sound

2024-05-27 Thread Keith Paugh

“Something a touch louder than Deore” is how I’d describe the Silver hub.

I have one on my Sam.
They have great engagement after coasting. Not as much “slip” as other hubs.

I’ve really liked it.
k.

> On May 26, 2024, at 11:34 PM, Brian Watts  wrote:
> 
> something a touch louder

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Re: [RBW] Track Supermarket

2024-05-24 Thread Keith Paugh

Where does one get a Nitto catalog?!k.On May 24, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Ted Durant  wrote:A shout out for a new vendor to me, Track Supermarket. I was looking for a stem for my new Sam and wanted a face-plater with a 26.0 clamp and no extra quill. Browsing the Nitto catalog (you do have a Nitto catalog handy, right?) I found the UI-2 quill version, which was just what I was looking for. I found it available for $50 at Track Supermarket, who are located in Tokyo. I ordered it three days ago. It arrived via FedEx today. Shipping cost was $15.50. Ted DurantMilwaukee WI USA



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Re: [RBW] The Cub House's Los Angeles Invitational Ride - May 18

2024-05-22 Thread Keith Paugh

Thanks! I've got it pinned now.

I'll wheeze along with you Ted.
k.



On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 6:07 PM Ted Durant  wrote:

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> On May 22, 2024, at 7:36 PM, P W  wrote:
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> Here’s the triple:
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>
> Thanks! I hope to give it a go next time I’m in LA.
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Chris - Outstanding on all counts.k.On May 21, 2024, at 2:18 PM, Chris Halasz wrote:When I'm not auditioning for Spaceballs (that is a helmet cover), I sometimes bring binos into the hills with the high mileage point and shoot. It's not about the pixels, it's about the dynamic range. And I just love the small but high utility Arkel signature bar bag, double duty as an over-the-shoulder/sling bag. Cheers, Chris On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 9:01:14 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:Speaking of cameras on bikes, I remember coming across this cool story of Frank Lenz a while back. Is anybody else carrying a 15lb camera and a 10lb pith helmet?Frank Lenz: The Lost CyclistCheers, JohnOn Monday, May 20, 2024 at 2:40:51 PM UTC-7 Chester wrote:Nick Payne wrote:On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 1:03:44 pm UTC+10 Chester wrote:Really appreciate bigger sensors being available in pocketable packages. I don't ride in jerseys any more, so I haven't settled on the best way to carry even a really compact camera like an RX100 or GR. Even when just riding with my phone, with it in the pocket of a normal pair of shorts, it's not a great to wrestle it out while pedaling. Have ridding a couple times with the RX100 in a stem pouch and that's probably the best carry option I've used so far. Ir maybe that sort of bag worn on a belt, or...a fanny pack.For carrying phone/cameras, I've been using one of the Routewerks handlebar bags for several years. That looks really really practical. I need to do a deep dive into getting a new handlebar bag. Would like a bigger one and one with a quick release so it's less fiddly to not leave my bag behind when stopping somewhere while riding around town. Using mustache handlebars complicates things a little, but deciding to go with pink accents even more so.Think for larger cameras with interchangeable lenses, even if a relatively small one with a not-big lens, is gonna be best carried in a bigger handelbar bag. Using a shoulder strap with a stabilizer strap works well too, but I just don't want the weight on me, even if it's not all that much. So far, for the RX100, a stem pouch has been pretty good, and I've stuck a folded innertube at the bottom of the bag to raise the floor and make it easier to get the camera out while pedaling. But this definitely won't take an MILC, unless it's an especially small body and especially flat pancake lens.Another camera that I wish I had to try out for carrying while riding is a Panasonic LX100. Pretty compact all-in-one with a 24-75mm (equiv) zoom and m43 sensor. ChesterSF Bay Area

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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

2024-05-13 Thread Keith Paugh

Nice shot Ian.Nice cameras Eric. k.On May 13, 2024, at 3:50 PM, Ted Durant  wrote:On May 13, 2024, at 5:34 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:I have too many cameras, but I’m partial to several for carrying on the bike: Yashica T4, Olympus XA4, and Lomo LCA120. Pretty much any good compact point-and-shoot makes a good cycling camera. The shot below of my Quickbeam was taken with a Leica ia from 1930 that was recently added to my collection. A very simple camera that, despite being almost a century old, is robust and compact enough to carry on the bike or in a pocket.The perfect set of cameras for a guy who rides a Quickbeam with those cranks and 3-speed hub :-)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

2024-05-06 Thread Keith Paugh

Beautiful. What a color!k.On May 6, 2024, at 10:59 AM, Jason Fuller wrote:Bombadil among some Laburnums on my commute home Friday On Monday 6 May 2024 at 09:20:06 UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:Truly, that bike is stunning. And so clean! Almost immaculate. Great looking setup, too.JohnOn Monday, May 6, 2024 at 6:06:44 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:Thank you, John & Keith!-BrianLex KYOn Sun, May 5, 2024 at 6:35 PM John Rinker wrote:Beautiful photograph, Brian! Great light, gorgeous setting, and stunning bike.Cheers, JohnOn Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 12:47:51 PM UTC-7 Brian Turner wrote:I started out aiming for a decently long ride yesterday, but found myself scoping out birding spots in the woods with my buddy (and fellow RBWOB group member Huston). No complaints here.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

2024-05-05 Thread Keith Paugh

All I read in that paragraph was, “a day well spent.”

Beautiful bike, Brian.
k.

> On May 5, 2024, at 12:47 PM, Brian Turner  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Toyo Atlantis

2024-04-26 Thread Keith Paugh

Hi Dylan,

I think this 58 would be too big for me, but I was glad to see another LA
Riv.
What part of town are you in?

k.

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 2:30 PM dylan green 
wrote:

> After a lot of inner back and forth - I've decided to sell my stunning
> Toyo built Atlantis as a frame set with some extras. The wheelset is
> available separately or added on at a discount if you grab the frameset. I
> have some Nitto racks also available separately and will list those later
> in a parts posting.
>
> Size is 58 (700c) and has the desirable shorter chainstays. I have a PBH
> of 86.5 and Grant put me on this Atlantis. The overall condition is VERY
> clean. The only imperfection worth noting is on the chain stay. It is
> hidden when the crank is installed. The paint is still shiny as new. Also
> included is an Ultegra headset, Shimano BB, nitto drop bar and stem as
> well as campy shifters (mirage).
>
> I love this frame, I've had it for a long time. But my riding time is
> going down each year. I was planning yet another rebuild for this, but more
> and more I just reach for my bridgestone when I want to go for a cruise. I
> am in Los Angeles and can drop it off at a shop for packing/shipping - but
> I'd ask that you work with them on payment and getting FedEx to pick it up.
>
> $2500
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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

2024-03-22 Thread Keith Paugh

Great looking ride Dave.k.On Mar 22, 2024, at 12:47 PM, DavidP  wrote:Like you, my ride today was also for an errand, but I took the long way home to see what birds might be out along the old canal (wood ducks, mute swans, and common mergansers for a few). Mid-30s today and I think we have some of what you got coming our way, but looks like it may just graze us here in MA.-Dave (near Boston)On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 11:56:33 AM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:Astronomically it's spring. Meterologically, here in SE Wisconsin, not so much. Short ride for a doctor visit this morning.Ted DurantMilwaukee, WI USA



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Re: [RBW] Re: (re-introducing) Amelia Homer Hilsen

2024-03-17 Thread Keith Paugh

Eitan,It looks like a delicious caramel. Love it.I’m in Mar Vista. Let’s go for a ride!- KeithOn Mar 17, 2024, at 10:04 AM, Ethan K wrote:Hi Seam, bars are wrapped with Brooks microfiber tape, (manufactured by Fizik, I believe). Foe me at least, the right balance of squish, grip, weather resistance, and aesthetic complement to a leather saddle. While I liked the look of the laquered Newbaum's, as supplied by Riv, in practice I found it a little scratchy and hard. --EitanOn Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 7:46:32 AM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:Ha! 'Women, cats, or felonies'. Good one! Also, very beautiful bicycle. Enjoy the ride!Cheers, JohnOn Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 6:51:51 AM UTC-7 SeanMac wrote:What a beautiful bike. Glad it is working better for you. Looks like you had a great ride destination!What do you have those bars wrapped with? SeanEA, NYOn Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 1:06:52 AM UTC-4 eitanz...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks to everyone's suggestions for shortening the reach on my new A(melia) Homer Hilsen. The 26mm diameter and silver finish requirements limited handlebar choices considerably, but I ended up going with Liz' suggestion for Soma Highway One bars, paired with 10mm shorter quill. The bike fits SO MUCH better now. Rode for almost 4 hours yesterday with nary a shoulder, neck, nor arm twinge. ** Why Amelia?1) The "A" has to stand for something.2) I've always been fond of the name, but S.O. nixed it from the baby name list--a diagreement mooted when she gave birth to a son.3) I always felt that bicycles, like ships, should be named after women, cats, or felonies. Wish the pic could capture Amelia's subtle but elegant butternut sparkle:New bars a much better fit for my body. However, I hadn't realized how much longer the drop part of the bar would be than on the now-replaced Noodle, or maybe it's the shorter stem, or maybe both, but my knees will sometimes graze shifters when popping up out of a seated position. --Eitan in Marina Del Rey

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Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

2024-03-06 Thread Keith Paugh

Mad Max,Shock & Awe indeed.That’s a mean machine.k.On Mar 6, 2024, at 7:32 AM, John Dewey wrote:Max, that's just a badass bicycle. Well done, sir.JockOn Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 3:23 PM Max S wrote:Here's my favorite Riv for pavement (and dirt) riding (tires and wheels are #1 and #2 concerns, saddle-to-bar drop is #3, and close behind that is picking a reasonably fast color): - Max "orange you glad I didn't say banana?" in A2On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 4:18:43 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:Chuck, I believe the best Rivendell for pavement riding is whichever Rivendell that fits you well and is comfortable for your body, that pleases you mechanically and aesthetically, that is within your budget, and that accomplishes whatever goals for the type of riding you hope to do. You said you will be riding mostly on pavement. Pavement riding is a broad category, and there are many different modes and types of it. Will it be "practical" pavement riding (like commuting or hauling stuff from the supermarket), relaxed cruising on a weekend morning, or racing in a group? Will you occasionally venture off road? All of the above?One of the things that makes Rivs so wonderful is their versatility. This is what I value about Rivs above all else, which is why I gravitate to the various All Rounders. An Atlantis, for example, can be set up many different ways and it will be brilliant in the various guises. Swap a handlebar or tires (either wider or narrower, or to or from slicks and knobbies) and you have a bike with different character suited for a different type of riding, all while retaining the Rivendell feel. If you want a "road" bike strictly speaking, there are a lot of great suggestions in this thread. In the end it comes back to your own subjectivity, and your sense of the kind of riding you will be doing.Good luck with your search!On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 2:01:43 PM UTC-5 heike...@gmail.com wrote:Hi Chuck--as you asked about the Appaloosa and a drop-bar alternative, I'll chime in: I have a 51" 650B Appaloosa with Nitto Choco bars, which Riv describes thus: "It's also good for road bikes instead of a drop bar, when you want a close grip and a totally perfect next-to-stem grip. It's the best bar we have for that." I really like these bars, as I can grab the flats when going fast, downhill, or against wind, and the swept-back part is super comfortable otherwise. It's not a super wide bar; never feels out of place even on narrower paths or in traffic. I bought the Appa as a mixed-terrain bike, as a true allrounder, and I right now have a rack on it (and fenders, soon--just got my Velo Orange wavys delivered). I mostly ride it on smooth roads, and it's a fun bike for that, even up hills. Roadbike? No, not nimble and light to go on group fast rides, but totally smooth and comfortable for long rides. If I had two Riv bikes, I might get a Ram or a Roadini in addition to the App - but for just one bike that can do all kinds of things really well, the Appa is wonderful! On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 10:28:06 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:I own a 54cm Roadini (for myself) and a 50cm (for my son who will soon outgrow his Salsa Journeyman). I'd set up my Roadini as a gravel bike with wide tires but recently a friend borrowed my son's Roadini for her first ride over a dirt path in less than dry conditions I swapped the wheels on both bikes. Having done that work I decided to start riding the Roadini for my commute again, and it's such a nice bike for pavement riding. I would be very happy if the Roadini was the only bike I was allowed to ride. A wheel/tire swap is all it takes to switch its personality.Picture of the 50mm gold Roadini with 40mm Conti Terraspeed tires: https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/9xe97P72TVC9kT6ezib43w.ApcagsQcybWcV2qpmaE8jeOn Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 9:46:26 AM UTC-8 cfic...@gmail.com wrote:Mathias, Max, Damien, thanks. A lot of good information in your posts. Riding and experimenting with different models may be the only way to find that "perfect" bike, if there is such a thing. I have to admit that I've been riding an All City Space Horse for a while now, which I picked up to see me through while I wait on the "right" Rivendell to become available. It's actually very comfortable and stable, but a bit heavy for the hills. The 52cm model I have has similar chainstay, wheelbase, head tube angle, stack, and reach to a 50cm Roadini, so maybe I should be satisfied with what I have? I don't know. I am rethinking the requirement I have had in my mind for drop handlebars, though. Some of the Nitto bars (Losco, Choco, Albastache) look like they could be fine for long distance road riding with multiple positions that could mimic some of those of a drop bar. And they might work better with the longish top tubes. ChuckOn Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-5 Damien wrote:I had a Sam up until recently but sold it and have very recently replaced with a Ram which I've yet to get out on (am going to

Re: [RBW] Re: Trip Report: Death Valley February 2024

2024-03-03 Thread Keith Paugh

Sounds like an amazing trip!k.On Mar 3, 2024, at 8:33 PM, Diana H wrote:Is there a way to post photo's? I tried to post just a single photo and kept getting error's that the message was too long. So here is a link to some photo's.https://photos.app.goo.gl/m6ymTWsmPXiiwr8P9 On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 8:19:20 PM UTC-8 Diana H wrote:Map: https://www.gaiagps.com/map/?loc=9.6/-116.8781/36.7032=GJ70zopvv3HDAIv6yQW94aTs=09fa1491-18a7-4735-83a2-eb164d4ba0ba

Total miles: ~165 miles Total Elevation Gain: ~14,400 ft

Intro:

The inspiration for this route came from the Bikepacking.com- Echo-Titus
Canyon, but Titus Canyon is currently closed to all traffic (including
bicycles), so we were looking for a way to extend our tip another day. We added
Rhyolite
Canyon from the Dirty Freehub.

Bicycles

Diana’s Bike - 2022 Platypus (50 cm, 38x24 crank, 650Bx43mm GravelKing
SK Knobby tires, Nitto Choco handlebar, and a 9-speed cassette)

Ran’s Bike – 2023 Kona Sutra (stock parts except the
tubeless 2.1 inch tires)

Mikes Bike – 2022 Salsa Cutthroat (stock parts, 2.2 inch tubeless
tires)

Day 1. Rhyolite RumbleTotal Miles: 46Average Speed 8.6mphWe drove from Reno to Spicer Ranch. Spicer Ranch is an amazing
campground and the owner runs it entirely on donations. Clean bathrooms, hot
showers, picnic tables, what else could you ask for? Please donate if you stay
here. Our plan today was to ride load-less and ease our way into
the trip. We arrived at Spicer Ranch a little after 10am and were biking by
10:45am. The first few miles went by quickly and we passed by several old mines.
There is endless gravel to ride out here and you could easily spend the day
exploring mine to mine. The road is pretty tough in places, but this is how it
will be the entire trip.The excitement of beginning our adventure (and being
unloaded) had us riding fast. We had great views riding toward Grapevine
Mountains on amazingly packed gravel. I would get a flat somewhere along here
but patched it up and moved on. The views would continue but the road would deteriorate into
more sand than gravel and had us pushing on a few occasions. Ran took a spill during
a moment of lapsed attention when his tire hit the side of a wash. Luckily it
was a slow fall and Ran would ride away with minor scratches. Later on in the
day we hit some washboards and I was going too fast and I got a pinch flat.
Patched that too, but the pinch flat happened right next to the valve and the
patch didn’t hold. Replaced the whole tube just before Rhyolite. This whole
time we saw nobody else on the trails.Rhyolite Ghost town is very interesting and they have a lot
of eccentric statues/sculptures. Worth a visit here if you find yourself in the
area. There were a lot of tourists here and it was little jarring after
spending the whole day by ourselves.

The night caught us and to try to get back to camp quicker,
we abstained from the gravel and rode back on highway 95. This was very
unpleasant as it’s a 2-lane highway with 70 mph speed limits. Most everybody
passed us with as much room as they could spare, and we could always hop onto
the gravel sides if we needed. Once back at Spicer Ranch, we set up camp, ate
our dinners, and all fell into peaceful sleep.Day 2: Spicer Ranch à Chloride City à Furnace Creek à Echo CanyonTotal Mileage: 66 MilesMax Speed: 34.5mphAverage: 8.7mphThis was a physically hard day! We wanted more gravel riding today, so we decided to take Chloride City Road to meet up with Death Valley Road. The road to Chloride City is all uphill, riding on somewhat loose gravel, and many parts so sandy some pushing was needed again. The scenery did not disappoint though! Mike found a license plate from 1932! We harbored thoughts of going to see Chloride City Ghost Town, but upon seeing that Chloride City was another 2000 feet of elevation gain and having just climbed a very difficult 1500 feet, we opted to skip it.We thought we were going to be golden once we got to the turnoff to go down, but the decent from Chloride City road is difficult. Thank goodness it was downhill because otherwise we would have had to push our bicycles 50% more. It was extremely sandy and only the cars with the fattest of tires would be safe driving this path.Once we hit Daylight Pass Road it was jarring to fly down pavement to Hells Gate Viewpoint (my max speed was almost 35 mph and I’m sure I pumped the breaks). We snapped a few photos then turned left and went down Beatty Cutoff Road. Again, we would fly down this road (dropping 2500 feet!) hitting Highway 190.Riding on Highway 190 wasn’t the greatest with cars zooming past us, but we got lucky and hit some construction. The construction turned the road into one way traffic with timed/predictable traffic. We would ride taking up a whole lane knowing nobody would come up behind us for a good 10 or so minutes. Then when we heard the pack of cars coming we would ride single file for a few minutes until they all passed and then take up

Re: [RBW] Los Angeles Riv Ride

2024-02-25 Thread Keith Paugh

What a great portrait on your Platy’s first day out!(I’d be happy to help on a westside ride as well)k.On Feb 25, 2024, at 3:59 PM, Armand Kizirian wrote:Better late than never, this was a fantastic ride. Particularly special for me as it was my first ride on my first Rivendell ever that I built the night before. It was such a pleasure discovering all the nuances in the fit, feel, and ride of my Platypus in good company, on a ride that reflected the ethos of Rivendell's philosophy through and through. No rush to get anywhere, enjoying the scenery in comfort. I could not believe how easy the 26 miles felt, in part due to the relaxed pace but also the exceptionally comfortable posture on my bike. Looks like I have a dentist appointment on March 2nd before heading out of town, so odds or slim I'll make a rid ethen. I'll keep tabs on a mixed terrain ride in the Santa Monica's sometime this spring that I'd be happy to create/lead. Thanks for grabbing those clips Keith, and if you haven't seen your portrait yet, here's the dropbox folder Ted posted photos from earlier. Have to finish wrapping the bars/frame, install the front derailleur, and add on rear rack and fenders and this will be complete! Separate build thread in time. On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 3:23:15 PM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:Videos attached below (fingers crossed).k.On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 3:22:03 PM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:I have some snap shots as well:k.

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Re: [RBW] Los Angeles Riv Ride

2024-02-16 Thread Keith Paugh

7:45Allez LASee you there!k.On Feb 16, 2024, at 6:00 AM, Dorothy C wrote:I’m definitely coming. Will be on a 50cm Sergio Green PlatyOn Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 5:41:30 PM UTC-8 heike...@gmail.com wrote:Excellent; thank you, Ted!Look forward to riding with all of you on Saturday!Heike (Appaloosa from OC)On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 3:55 PM Ted Durant wrote:Ride With GPS route:https://ridewithgps.com/routes/45602857Ted Durant

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

2024-02-14 Thread Keith Paugh

and walked on steep, rocky parts, and I haven't taken my Appaloosa on any of that type of trail. I know the bike can do it; I'm just not sure I can :)  Overall, though, the path and plan you suggest sounds fun, P.W.!  How early is early? I'm an early riser, and I have to drive in from South Orange County. Google says it will take me 1:30 hours to get to Allez. On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 8:09 PM Tony Lockhart <alockh...@gmail.com> wrote:Just wondering what the fitness, technical ability, and comfort level of people are. While I've never taken my bike on single track, I love to try out some flowy curves and fire roadsand I'm quite happy to do 30+ miles on mixed terrain, especially if we get an early start. I'm super flexible.How are others feeling? I'd rather defer to the group, in favor of getting more people to attend. The more, the merrier, IMO.@Armand - Glad to hear that you'll be visiting Allez. Perhaps you can let us know if any good ideas or routes come up when you chat with Kyle. I think it would be great if we kept the ride on this side of town. I can't speak for others, but I'd welcome a future ride on the west side.@Phil - Great idea for a route; you've got my vote! I know Ted had mentioned Cherry Canyon. Sign me up for flowy single track and a beer anyday! On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 4:37:01 PM UTC-8 philip@gmail.com wrote:Meeting at Allez wouldn’t be a bad idea.Riv dealers and great people, after all!I’m sure they’d be happy to host. Plus Collage coffee is down the block.Highland Park to South Pas, Rosebowl over to Cherry Canyon, down through the Sports Complex singletrack, ending with a beer and hot dog at Walt’s is never a bad time.20-30miles. Bunch of road, bunch of dirt. Flowy, Riv-friendly single track and fire roads.Or there’s Mt Washington - Elysian - Griffith. Although less fun.P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Jan 7, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Armand Kizirian <kiziria...@gmail.com> wrote:Safe to say a Riv is not required to join the ride. I will definitely be inviting a few people who would thoroughly appreciate being surrounded by Rivendells, despite not owning one. Tony, I used to organize routes/rides/tours for small and large groups. I'm in Santa Monica so I'm not as familiar with great places to ride on the east side. I think a jaunt through frogtown/la river/griffith park could be great. I'll be going to Glendale tomorrow and can stop by Allez LA and pick their brain some, especially if Kyle is there. What kind of mileage are you thinking? Is this a morning meetup ride? Let's doo this. Good incentive for me to finish my Playtpus by then too :). On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 9:22:54 PM UTC-8 heike...@gmail.com wrote:Oh, so cool to see this happening! I’ve been mostly lurking here; got my Appaloosa last August and I ride it in Orange County. I’d love to join a ride and February 17th will probably work (family plans permitting). Question: How long/demanding will the ride be? I’m usually a solo rider and with my Appaloosa I’m more of a joy rider than a racer.On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 8:47:39 AM UTC-8 Tony Lockhart wrote:Hey folks,Anybody free for an early February meet up and ride? Ted D. is in town during the week of the 12th, so this seems like a great opportunity for a fun, super causal ride.Sunday the 11th Monday the 12th (state holiday)Saturday the 17thWhat do you think?On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 10:34:54 AM UTC-7 chris@gmail.com wrote:I'm interested. If the date happens to fall in the second half of the month, I'll do my best to be there! First one was a great time. Thanks again to Houston and everyone who came out. On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 9:42 AM Keith Paugh <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:Definitely! I was just thinking we should do this again this summer.I've met some new, not-on-the-google-group L.A. Riv riders to add to the mix this next time too.k.On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 6:41 AM Bryce Dwyer <dwyer...@gmail.com> wrote:I am! Saturday mornings are best for me but can swing a Friday now and then. There’s also July 3rd, a Monday that se folks may have off. On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 10:13 PM Tony Lockhart <alockh...@gmail.com> wrote:Anybody available for a group ride in July? @Houston - Thanks for sharing the folder with photos.On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 5:08:28 PM UTC-7 tellyoutoday wrote:This was a great time, thanks for putting it together, Houston. Really nice meeting everyone!NealeOn Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 2:37:54 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:So sorry to have missed this!Looks like it was a hoot.Let plan another ride soon.k.On May 28, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Ben Adrian <bunny...@gmail.com> wrote:Super fun!A good pile of Rivs. A number of other cool bikes. Even two e-bikes.Great conversation, everyone was super positive. Total type 1 fun.See you all at the next one!BenOn Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 9:28:47 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:Great photos! I’ll definitely be at the next one. On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:08:04 PM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Brevet #2 of 2024, this time on my Legolas

2024-02-10 Thread Keith Paugh

Wow Bill, I am impressed.Sounds like an incredible ride. Congrats!In the face of chocolate chips and lemon cake, cashews are going to play third fiddle.k.On Feb 10, 2024, at 6:11 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:Today was the SFRandonneurs Russian River 200k brevet. Executive summary: I did it on my Legolas, and finished in 9 hours on the button, clock running, which is a very good time for me. I'm fired up to tackle the 300 in March. TL/DRI was signed up for the 2/24 200k, in preparation for the 3/9 300k event, but a family gathering got arranged on that weekend and I had to pivot to the 2/10 event. It's fortunate that SFR has so many events, especially in the Winter months. The Russian River 200k route looks like two lollipops. Unlike most SFR Marin County rides, it doesn't start at the Golden Gate Bridge. Instead it starts at the end of Lucas Valley Road in San Rafael. The "stem" of the first lollipop follows Lucas Valley Road all the way to Nicosio. Then you go counter clockwise around the first half of the first lollipop hitting the tip of the stem of the second lollipop in Fallon. The second stem ends in Valley Ford, and then we go counter clockwise again up through Occidental, Rio Vista, Guerneville and alongside the Russian River. That second lollipop loop meets up with the Pacific Coast and curls back down to Valley Ford, retraces stem #2 and returns to the coast along Tomales Bay before meeting back up with stem #1 in Nicosio, and it's back Lucas Valley Road to where you started. It was a gorgeous route and a splendid day. After a ton of heavy rain, there was a lot of evidence of it having been stormy, and lots of wet roads, but no rain today. At the start at 7AM temperatures were in the low 40s, so I wore bib shorts plus knee warmers. I wore a wool base layer, and a thermal SFR long sleeve jersey, with my rain jacket over that and a reflective vest on top of that. I wore some light full finger gloves, and over socks over my road shoes. It dropped to the mid 30s in some of the valleys and my fingers were in pain from the cold. I was just barely warm enough on the feet, and for a minute I wished I had worn a buff or similar to pull over my nose and ears. By 10AM it warmed up enough that it was no longer a problem, and in the afternoon a lot of the layers came off as the temperatures got up to the mid 50s. My Legolas was originally a 1x10, but I changed it out to a 2x10 late last year. I used It on my birthday to summit Mount Diablo, with Barlow Pass Extralight road tires. The bike did great on that ride, but after 55 miles, my saddle was not comfortable. I've got an ultra lightweight Selle Italia saddle on there, because it's a cyclocross race bike! Races last an hour and you're running part of the time. Who cares if your saddle is comfortable? The night before I swapped out my Gilles Berthoud Soulor leather saddle, and I'm glad I did. My hindquarters handled the day without any objections. The bike did perfectly. Fast and nimble, but easy to control. No mechanicals and no flats. I hammered the last 40km to just get under the wire at 9 hours. Strava gives me 8 hours 40 minutes moving. My fitness is progressing nicely. I've lost about 12 pounds of pudge I didn't need, and my general strength from Orange Theory Fitness seems to be paying dividends. Despite a couple nagging aches and pains, the body did well today. Another last minute bike setup change was I decided to run Look style pedals, instead of SPDs. My left ankle has been bugging me and I feel a lot more planted on the solid wide platform of Look pedals. That choice served me well all day, with no foot, pedal or ankle issues. Nutrition-wise I did nothing in preparation. I had a biggish breakfast and packed no food. In Valley Ford I bought a chocolate chip cookie, a package of cashews and a bag of Hairdo ginger candy. On my second trip to Valley Ford I restocked water and had a slice of Lemon Cake. That all did fine, and I didn't actually get into the cashews until after the ride. I did my normal Four 50k sections. Section 1 I took it easy and warmed up. Section 2 I pushed harder. Section 3, I dug deep and got after it. Section 4 would normally be a mellow victory lap to get you home, but I really wanted to make 9 hours so I hammered, and it worked out. A couple of the "fast group" riders who went off the front at the start were still at the finish when I got there, so I wasn't far behind them. Anyway, I'm pleased with my ride and feel ready for the 300 next month. I do NOT intend to use my new RoadeoRosa on the 300, but I'm holding an outside shot that I may use it for the 600. Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CA

Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

2024-02-10 Thread Keith Paugh

:39 AM UTC-8 Tony Lockhart wrote:Hey folks,Anybody free for an early February meet up and ride? Ted D. is in town during the week of the 12th, so this seems like a great opportunity for a fun, super causal ride.Sunday the 11th Monday the 12th (state holiday)Saturday the 17thWhat do you think?On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 10:34:54 AM UTC-7 chris@gmail.com wrote:I'm interested. If the date happens to fall in the second half of the month, I'll do my best to be there! First one was a great time. Thanks again to Houston and everyone who came out. On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 9:42 AM Keith Paugh <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:Definitely! I was just thinking we should do this again this summer.I've met some new, not-on-the-google-group L.A. Riv riders to add to the mix this next time too.k.On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 6:41 AM Bryce Dwyer <dwyer...@gmail.com> wrote:I am! Saturday mornings are best for me but can swing a Friday now and then. There’s also July 3rd, a Monday that se folks may have off. On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 10:13 PM Tony Lockhart <alockh...@gmail.com> wrote:Anybody available for a group ride in July? @Houston - Thanks for sharing the folder with photos.On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 5:08:28 PM UTC-7 tellyoutoday wrote:This was a great time, thanks for putting it together, Houston. Really nice meeting everyone!NealeOn Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 2:37:54 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:So sorry to have missed this!Looks like it was a hoot.Let plan another ride soon.k.On May 28, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Ben Adrian <bunny...@gmail.com> wrote:Super fun!A good pile of Rivs. A number of other cool bikes. Even two e-bikes.Great conversation, everyone was super positive. Total type 1 fun.See you all at the next one!BenOn Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 9:28:47 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:Great photos! I’ll definitely be at the next one. On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:08:04 PM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:It was really nice meeting everyone today. Thanks for putting this together, Houston! -MattOn Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 8:27:54 AM UTC-7 chris@gmail.com wrote:Same here, see you all in a bit. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 27, 2023, at 8:23 AM, Bryce Dwyer <dwyer...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi all — on my way but will likely arrive right at 9:00On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:56:23 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:Hi everyone,I'm looking forward to seeing y'all this Saturday at Griffith for our LA Riv meet-up! All riders are welcome, Riv bike owners or not. Originally, the meet-up was for 8 AM, but I want to push it back an hour to start in some warmer weather. If anyone isn't cool with this, we can always go back to the og time, just LMK.As a reminder, here are the details:When: 9 AM Where: Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 2650 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027Route: Loop around Vista del Valle to the Observatory around 10 mi with 1k ft. of climbingOptional Extras: If people want, we can throw in a pie stop at House of Pies after the Observatory &/or add on the Hollywood Sign climb for folks who want to do some more climbing!-HoustonOn Friday, April 28, 2023 at 3:55:01 PM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:I'm planning on attending as well. Also thinking about the "single scoop" for the LA Invitational. On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 2:04 PM David Person <cycli...@gmail.com> wrote:I've marked my calendar.On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:32:49 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:56:40 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:Hi y'all,Thank you for all of your feedback/responses! It's looking like May 27th has the highest level of availability! We can always adjust specifics closer to the date, but for now let's keep the morning/afternoon of the 27th open. As a tentative plan, let's meet at Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 8 am. Isaac and Matt, I'm gonna try to make it out to the Cub House that weekend...it looks so sick! So excited to meet everyone! -HoustonOn Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:48:04 AM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:Valley head checking in; I can't commit to any May dates but wanted rep the set.For awareness, Isaac is talking about the 2023 Los Angeles Invitational (Everyone's invited) 5/20 - 5/21. John Prolly's write 2022 write-up: A Weekend at The Cub House’s 2022 LA InvitationalI signed up for the 55 mile ride on Saturday and reserved a spot at the swap. It's a great event and everyone is super nice. The swap is really good too because sellers usually have interesting or high end items.-MattOn Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:14:29 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:@isaac -- The Cub House events are right around the corner from meexcellent bike shop. And their community events are a blast. Definitely a great opportunity for a Pasadena ride especially since there are a ton of good coffee shops in the area.@bryce -- Yep, that was orange Sam at Palomares Adobe. What a great location. My daughter and I were attending the 626 event and happened upon the grounds. Will definitel

Re: [RBW] Ride Report - Santa Monica to Santa Barbara Century

2024-02-03 Thread Keith Paugh

Armand - Yup! Looking forward to it.Will we see your Platypus there?Ian, Sally & Ben - Thank you! Very kind of you to say.Chris - Yes. Rode out, and returned home the same day by car.Put together that ride and I’ll take the train up to join you guys! It is beautiful out there.Patrick - I agree. I don’t know if I should be any measure, but I say go for it! I bet New Mexico would have amazing desert routes to map out.The “Racing basket” is just a Wald basket that they cut down to half height. (I think they look cool)The odometer/speedometer is a digital bike computer built into analog guts. Omata One is name. They are so rad. Measures speed, time, distance, and elevation gain, and then syncs with your phone to record the data. Picked this one up used. k.On Feb 2, 2024, at 1:57 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:odometer/stopwatch/speedometer.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Why do some bikes just feel consistently faster?

2024-01-09 Thread Keith Paugh

Really interesting points Ted.Thanks for writing them up!k.On Jan 9, 2024, at 6:12 AM, Bill Schairer wrote:Ted,I love your explanation! My niece is a college crew coach and she also cycles. I will have to ask her about "swing."Bill SSan DiegoOn Monday, January 8, 2024 at 7:15:31 AM UTC-8 Ted Durant wrote:Not to be overly contrarian, but ...Planing is a terrible word for the phenomenon in question, which is when the flex characteristics of the bike are such that the energy stored in deformation (of the frame and all the attached parts) is efficiently returned to power the rear wheel during the lower power part of the pedaling cycle. When a boat planes, it rises out of the water, resulting in a large reduction in coefficient of drag. The equivalent on a bicycle would be the development of a vacuum around the bike and rider at a certain speed. That would be fun, but it's certainly not what's happening on earth. Ironically, there is a well-known and used term in Jan's back yard, for the exact phenomenon he is trying to describe. Rowers have long used the word "swing" to describe a shell and oars whose flex characteristics synchronize well with their strokes, allowing them to go faster for a given power output. Jan claims that bikes that "plane" magically increase a rider's power output, but the reality is that bikes that swing well waste less of the rider's power. A better way to put it might be that such a bike puts more of the rider's power to the back wheel. The flex characteristics of the frame are important, of course, but the entire bicycle (and its rider) is a system of springs and in such a system the softer springs affect flex first, with the stiffer springs becoming more relevant as the forces increase. For most of us on this list, we don't spend a lot of time putting enough power into the pedals to get to the point where frame flexibility is significantly tested. At 57kg, I can tell you that I rarely put out that kind of power. I have a brevet bike made of .7/.4/.7 standard diameter tubing, and I can make that frame flex, but not for very long. That bike rides on 42mm tires at about 33 psi, and the tires are definitely the soft springs in that system.I don't attribute aluminum, or stiffer frames in general, to an increased focus on cadence. Track cyclists have always been obsessed with cadence. With the introduction of multiple gear systems for road biking came the opportunity to develop notions of "ideal" cadence. Note that when Jan talks about frames "planing" for him, he almost always talks about it working for his preferred cadence. Stiff frames, in fact, reduce the importance of cadence, as they reduce the contribution of the frame to swing (for a given power input). For me, cadence is only important when going uphill or into a headwind. It is important because I need enough momentum in my feet to keep a steady speed. Without that momentum, I am repeatedly accelerating during the power phase and decelerating during the non-power phase. That is terribly inefficient. And that is why, as discussed in the recent thread on gearing, it is so important to have low gears in steep hills. Long before aluminum frames were a twinkle in Gary Klein's eyes, cyclists talked about "staying on top of a gear" when climbing. It meant to maintain a fast enough cadence that you were pedaling smoothly, maintaining a constant speed. Cyclists have also long talked about using smaller gears and a higher cadence to "work your heart, not your legs." So, I also don't have _the_ answer to why some bikes seem/feel/are faster than others. Many of my best Strava times on climbing segments and my best 100km time are on my Heron prototype, which is a road frame but has the heavy rear stays from the touring frame. You can feel the weight of the stays (and the weight of the old SunTour freewheel) when you pick up the bike. Maybe it's just that I have so much invested in that bike that it inspires me to push a little harder. I tend to believe Jan's hypothesis that stiffness in the downtube and chainstays and flex in the top tube, relative to each other, help a bike swing in a way that returns energy to the rear wheel. Interestingly, old Reynolds tube sets were always spec'd that way, with thinner walls in the top tube than in the down tube. Somewhere along the way they switched to the Columbus standard, where top tube and down tube walls are the same. The Heron Road bikes have .1mm thinner top tube walls than down tube, and my prototype has extra heavy stays, so there you go.Ted DurantMilwaukee WI USA

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Re: [RBW] Los Angeles Riv Ride

2024-01-02 Thread Keith Paugh

Yes!I was just thinking it was time for another LA ride.I’d be available:Monday the 12th&Saturday the 17thThanks for suggesting it,k.On Jan 2, 2024, at 9:53 AM, isaac ramos  wrote:Sound great! Any of these dates work  for meIROn Jan 2, 2024, at 8:47 AM, Tony Lockhart  wrote:Hey folks,Anybody free for an early February meet up and ride? Ted D. is in town during the week of the 12th, so this seems like a great opportunity for a fun, super causal ride.Sunday the 11th Monday the 12th (state holiday)Saturday the 17thWhat do you think?On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 10:34:54 AM UTC-7 chris@gmail.com wrote:I'm interested. If the date happens to fall in the second half of the month, I'll do my best to be there! First one was a great time. Thanks again to Houston and everyone who came out. On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 9:42 AM Keith Paugh <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:Definitely! I was just thinking we should do this again this summer.I've met some new, not-on-the-google-group L.A. Riv riders to add to the mix this next time too.k.On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 6:41 AM Bryce Dwyer <dwyer...@gmail.com> wrote:I am! Saturday mornings are best for me but can swing a Friday now and then. There’s also July 3rd, a Monday that se folks may have off. On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 10:13 PM Tony Lockhart <alockh...@gmail.com> wrote:Anybody available for a group ride in July? @Houston - Thanks for sharing the folder with photos.On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 5:08:28 PM UTC-7 tellyoutoday wrote:This was a great time, thanks for putting it together, Houston. Really nice meeting everyone!NealeOn Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 2:37:54 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:So sorry to have missed this!Looks like it was a hoot.Let plan another ride soon.k.On May 28, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Ben Adrian <bunny...@gmail.com> wrote:Super fun!A good pile of Rivs. A number of other cool bikes. Even two e-bikes.Great conversation, everyone was super positive. Total type 1 fun.See you all at the next one!BenOn Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 9:28:47 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:Great photos! I’ll definitely be at the next one. On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:08:04 PM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:It was really nice meeting everyone today. Thanks for putting this together, Houston! -MattOn Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 8:27:54 AM UTC-7 chris@gmail.com wrote:Same here, see you all in a bit. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 27, 2023, at 8:23 AM, Bryce Dwyer <dwyer...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi all — on my way but will likely arrive right at 9:00On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:56:23 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:Hi everyone,I'm looking forward to seeing y'all this Saturday at Griffith for our LA Riv meet-up! All riders are welcome, Riv bike owners or not. Originally, the meet-up was for 8 AM, but I want to push it back an hour to start in some warmer weather. If anyone isn't cool with this, we can always go back to the og time, just LMK.As a reminder, here are the details:When: 9 AM Where: Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 2650 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027Route: Loop around Vista del Valle to the Observatory around 10 mi with 1k ft. of climbingOptional Extras: If people want, we can throw in a pie stop at House of Pies after the Observatory &/or add on the Hollywood Sign climb for folks who want to do some more climbing!-HoustonOn Friday, April 28, 2023 at 3:55:01 PM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:I'm planning on attending as well. Also thinking about the "single scoop" for the LA Invitational. On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 2:04 PM David Person <cycli...@gmail.com> wrote:I've marked my calendar.On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:32:49 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:56:40 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:Hi y'all,Thank you for all of your feedback/responses! It's looking like May 27th has the highest level of availability! We can always adjust specifics closer to the date, but for now let's keep the morning/afternoon of the 27th open. As a tentative plan, let's meet at Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 8 am. Isaac and Matt, I'm gonna try to make it out to the Cub House that weekend...it looks so sick! So excited to meet everyone! -HoustonOn Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:48:04 AM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:Valley head checking in; I can't commit to any May dates but wanted rep the set.For awareness, Isaac is talking about the 2023 Los Angeles Invitational (Everyone's invited) 5/20 - 5/21. John Prolly's write 2022 write-up: A Weekend at The Cub House’s 2022 LA InvitationalI signed up for the 55 mile ride on Saturday and reserved a spot at the swap. It's a great event and everyone is super nice. The swap is really good too because sellers usually have interesting or high end items.-MattOn Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:14:29 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:@isaac -- The Cub House events are right around the corner from meexcellent bike shop. And their community events are a blast. Definitely a great opportunity for a

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-11-03 Thread Keith Paugh

“Must take a fashion shot.”I should say so!I wouldn’t think they’d rise high enough in back as you describe. k.On Nov 3, 2023, at 8:28 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:I broke out my oh, so elegant! grey flannel cycling knickers* last Sunday for the ride to church, matched with Rick's (Reisemberg) medium-dark grey knee socks and a charcoal grey merino mock turtleneck pullover under a navy Wabi Woolen LS jersey cunningly made into a light cycling jacket with the (very professional) addition of a full-length zipper. Shoes should have been Dromartis, but I use plain black canvas Specialized SPD shoes because they have a wide toe box and a flat bottom, better for standing during 2+ hour liturgies. Topped off with ironically-retro, deliberately jarring green-and-red Legnano cycling cap; not quite cold enough for ear flaps. Only 1 person did a double take at the knickers.Must take a fashion shot.But temps have risen almost 20* this week, so it looks like I'll be back to the light nylon REI roll-up-legs-and-snap-in-place pants and cotton collared shirt this Sunday.Much more casually, this afternoon, temp about 72* with moderate wind, wore a blue and white wool ss jersey with Italian lycra arm warmers over black Rapha Randonee shorts. Black ankle socks with catchy "Route 66" graphic and late 1980s/1990s Shimano 3-strap SPD shoes and custom cycling cap from Little Packet, no longer in business.* Very tastefully converted from a very nice pair of Nordstrom wool dress flannels with nylon wind panels on inside front and replaceable matched-color wear panel on seat and crotch.I have to say: I've spent considerable bucks on very many supposedly purpose-designed riding pants, knickers and long pants, and I have never had a pair of cycling pants that fit as well and are so well adapted to pedaling as converted dress pants, with the high waist and roomy -- not baggy; not 1950s -- cut. They come up high enough in back that you don't have that continual exposed skin anxiety, and they just feel much more comfortable. So many knickers and pants designed for cycling, so they say, are simply cut too low in the back and just feel uncomfortable, and I'm very trim. I've owned I think 4 pairs of dress-pant conversion cycling knickers and I wish I'd not sold 2 of the other 3 pairs. Patrick "not quite as serious as you might think" MooreOn Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 4:17 PM DavidP  wrote:Another knickers fan for spring/fall riding. My outfit today was perfect for the cool, crisp temps and reasonably coordinated (merino sweater, Zoic Reign knickers, Vans checkerboard socks).



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Re: [RBW] Re: Boise to San Francisco bicycle route

2023-10-25 Thread Keith Paugh

I’ll add my appreciation to all the responses too.I’m planning (actively thinking about) a trip down the California coast for next fall, and your thoughts and insight are super helpful.I’ve dug out my Spring/Kirkendell edition of “Bicycling” & put a hold on Thorness’ “Cycling” at the library.k.On Oct 25, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Jim S. wrote:thank you to all for the excellent, helpful responses so far.On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 1:24:17 PM UTC-6 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:That was my experience as well when I did the Pacific Coast tour in 2000. I live in San Diego so I basically flew up to BC and rode home. The book was a great help on that ride.Robert TilleySan Diego, CASent from my iPhoneOn Oct 25, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Steven Sweedler wrote:I ride from Seattle to SF in ‘96. I camped at state parks and stayed in the hiker/biker sites and was overwhelmed (in a good way) with how many cyclists I met from around the world and it seemedeveryone had a copy of “the book” by Kirkendall and Spring. Steven SweedlerPlymouth, New HampshireOn Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 2:51 PM Shawn Granton wrote:On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 6:41:42 AM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:The book reviewed herein, which is still available, was very helpful.Not sure when it was last updated, but as the song says,"The road goes on forever...:https://www.pacific-coast-highway-travel.com/Bicycling-the-Pacific-Coast-Book-Review.htmlThe book got updated in 2018 by a new author Bill Thorness. I highly recommend looking for the Thorness edition with the slightly revised title Cycling The Pacific Coast instead of the older Kirkendall/Spring editions. The old books were good for their time, but the new edition is magnitudes better in my opinion.I wrote about it here:https://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/2018/03/02/a-new-edition-of-the-cycling-the-pacific-coast-book-is-out/Best,Shawn in the PDX

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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Fall / Autumn Riding Photos 2023

2023-10-20 Thread Keith Paugh

Love it. Thanks John.k.On Oct 20, 2023, at 4:47 PM, John Rinker wrote:One from today on my way home from Nelson, BC:Cheers, JohnOn Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:39:08 PM UTC-7 P W wrote:So good!P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Oct 19, 2023, at 2:20 PM, Eric Marth wrote:<231015 Ride 03.jpg>One from this evening!On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:46:14 AM UTC-4 Jay Lonner wrote:Croatia is in the Northern Hemisphere… This was taken earlier today on the island of Hvar, looking north to the island of Brač. Looking forward to some riding on Korčula tomorrow. Incredible terrain, fantastic weather, indulgent food, and the company of my delightful wife.The generic Trek rental bike in the photo works just fine, and is a good reminder to me that while it’s fun to geek out over gear, in the end it’s all about just getting out there and riding.Jay LonnerBellingham, WASent from my Atari 400On Oct 10, 2023, at 5:40 PM, Frank Burkybile wrote:Just finished a week of riding 460-ish miles through North Carolina as part of the CycleNC Mountains to Coast ride. Great ride and great weather. I was the only Rivendell rider out of the 900 or so participants and got a lot of questions and comments on the bike. I rode my early Sam Hillborne in green and gold. It was the perfect choice for this type of riding. I didn't get that many pictures of the bike but I included a few here of your review. Happy Fall everyone!-FrankOn Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 10:02:15 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:Here are a few from last week in Leverett MA. I really need to find a good point-and-shoot camera, I've found the iPhone can't do things justice.On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 7:50:00 AM UTC-4 allan@gmail.com wrote:Great pictures, everyone, thank you!My wife and I took our last ride of the season on Mt Desert Island yesterday. This is looking south over Eagle Lake towards Pemetic, the Bubbles, and Sargent mountains.The leaves seem a bit drab this fall but the riding on the carriage roads never disappoints. Bikes are a Roscoe Platy and an Yves Gomez.Allan, on the road back to Marlboro, VtOn Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 3:34:53 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:Carrying on with Ted's seasonal riding photos threads, it's now fall.Around here the leaves are starting to change, but today was summer-like in temperature; a beautiful day for a mostly roadish ride on a singlespeed.Looking forward to seeing where you all are riding this season.-Dave (near Boston)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Fall / Autumn Riding Photos 2023

2023-10-19 Thread Keith Paugh

Ooof!Dynamite.k.On Oct 19, 2023, at 2:25 PM, Josh (BertoBerg)  wrote:Absolutely gorgeous, Eric! Thanks for sharing.Josh YoungbergBI, WA



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Re: [RBW] Roadini or Homer

2023-10-12 Thread Keith Paugh

These are really great posts. Thanks for cataloging your experiences guys!I for one would LOVE to see photos of all three of those bikes (The Indy Fab, the Roadini, and the new Homer) if you have a moment to post them.k.On Oct 12, 2023, at 8:52 AM, ShumotoSoundRoom wrote:I own three steel bikes: A 2003 Independent Fabrication Independence (their full touring frame, designed by Mike Flanigan), a low trail rando frame with 650b wheels made by a small builder, and a 2020 Roadini. The Indy Fab is a miraculous bike for loaded touring; incredibly stable with full panniers and surprisingly light and quick when stripped, given its stout tubing. I rode it across the US in 2004, and it has seen many, many miles since. I have converted my rando frame to function as errand runner, for I determined over the course of thousands of miles, that I just don't like the feel of 650 wheels. Since acquiring the Roadini in 2020, I've ridden nothing else. It felt, in so many ways, like the perfect bike for my needs. Exactly what I wanted from a "road + gravel" bike. The vast majority of my riding is done alone, on some combination of gravel and road, rides falling between 20-70 miles. I'm not as fast as I was in my twenties, thirties, or forties, but I keep a fairly brisk pace. I generally ride with a lightweight frame bag (made by Swift Industries) with no other bags or racks on the bike. I'm running Paul centerpulls which allows me to comfortably fit Rene Herse 38's, my favourite tires to date. Until last week, I sort of figured that the Roadini would be the bike that I would ride for the rest of my life. But then, after a short fifteen mile ride on mixed surfaces, on a different bike, everything changed. My wife and I finally caved and bought our son a great bike, as he is almost sixteen and wishes to join me on longer rides. He has just surpassed my height, so we bought him an A. Homer Hilsen as it will fit him longer if he keeps growing, and it seemed the most versatile of choices. After the build was finished, I took the bike out to make sure that everything was working properly, and within a few miles, I quickly determined that this was without question, my favourite bike that I had ever ridden in my life. No, it did not feel as quick as my Roadini, but it didn't feel as sluggish as my unloaded Indy Fab; which struck me as odd, given that the chain stays are MUCH longer on the Homer. The comfort level was astounding. There are moments on the Roadini where I hit a smooth stretch of recently paved road, the feeling of flying is accentuated and I think to myself, "this is such a glorious sensation!" The Homer felt that way the entire ride. On both road and gravel, I felt like I was simply gliding. The steering felt a bit slower and the bike didn't accelerate as quickly, but the stability and comfort were so incredible that I just didn't care. I live in New England and some of the old gravel roads can be rough, such that I normally lift off the saddle over bumps and hold the bars lightly. Not so with the Homer. It was, to my great surprise, even smoother than my Indy Fab. I should note that I was using the same Rene Herse 38's. Anyway, I could carry on and on, but I just wish to say that I find the two quite different. The bike also feels noticeably bigger (the frame is a 58) which may also contribute. To shorten what could be a long story, I came home, walked in the house, and ordered a Homer, which is set to arrive today. Once I build it up, I intend to sell the Roadini. After about thirty years of 3000mi annually, the Homer was instantly the bike that I'd dreamt of for a long time. You can't really go wrong with either. To me the question would come down to this: do you want to maximize the feeling of quickness or gliding comfort? For me, there was no comparison. With the Tektro side pulls and all of the same parts, I cannot tell a weight difference between the two; perhaps the Paul brakes and extra bits nullify the frame savings. Anyway, I was in a similar decision dilemma as you a few years back and went with the Roadini, and while it all worked out in the end, the Homer was the right choice for me. Good luck! On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 1:08:07 PM UTC-4 kwi...@weimar.edu wrote:The Homer will be 'heavier' or stiffer in terms of feel than the Roadini; I actually find the Roadini too stiff for my riding style.KarlOn Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 7:38 AM Bones wrote:I know these comparisons have come up frequently, but here is my particular situation:I had a 62 Hillborne. It felt too similar to my Appaloosa, so I got a 61 Roadini. I've been riding that for a year and a half and I love it. It serves the purpose the Hillborne was meant to serve (the Hillborne always felt a bit too bulky for my intended purpose... which is primarily riding on roads with light loads). Sometimes I feel like I overshot with the Roadini though, and the Homer would be the best choice. I

Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Fall / Autumn Riding Photos 2023

2023-10-08 Thread Keith Paugh

Beautiful wildflowers Eric.You look like you were moving at a good a pretty good clip in that first shot.Glad to see you are feeling better!k.On Oct 8, 2023, at 7:42 AM, Eric Marth wrote:Nice pictures David, Ted and Takashi! After a week of temps in the mid 80s we had perfect clear weather in the mid 60s yesterday. Just the first touch of rusting foliage down here in Virginia. I haven't been doing any of my nice mountain rides this summer and have been laid up for the past two weeks with shingles!! Yesterday was my first substantial outing in weeks, it was quite good. <231007 10 Sillhouette.jpg><231007 07 Appa fence.jpg><231007 05 Appa Pipsi.jpg>On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 8:48:44 AM UTC-4 Takashi wrote:Dave, thank you for starting the thread.Beautiful pictures as always. I'm looking forward to seeing your photos when leaves get more colorful.Keith, that looks like a wonderful place to ride around. And you silver Sam is so beautiful.Half month ago everyone around here was complaining about how hot it was, and now we're all complaining about how cold it is.Leaves aren't changing yet, but the top of Mt. Ontake is covered with snow now.Takashi2023年10月8日日曜日 1:16:21 UTC+9 Keith P.:Beautiful ride Dave. What incredible trees. Must have been a hoot!I had a pretty good one the other day before a heatwave switched us back to summer for another week or two.Final count: 11 deer, 6 bluejays, 2 Egret & 1 Tai Chi’ist in the middle of the road, around a blind corner. No brilliant leaf colors yet. Anything red in these photos is poison oak. Wall-to-wall poison oak, raising the stakes on unfamiliar single track decents.Keep the colorful ride coverage coming! Us west-coasters are dying to peep them leaves.- KeithSouthern California (visiting his Northern California parents in these pictures)On Oct 5, 2023, at 12:35 PM, DavidP wrote:Carrying on with Ted's seasonal riding photos threads, it's now fall.Around here the leaves are starting to change, but today was summer-like in temperature; a beautiful day for a mostly roadish ride on a singlespeed.Looking forward to seeing where you all are riding this season.-Dave (near Boston)

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Re: [RBW] For sale: Michelin shirts and Suntour hats

2023-10-06 Thread Keith Paugh

These are awesome Eric!Nice work! k.On Oct 4, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Eric Marth wrote:Hi all — I made a batch of Michelin shirts based on a poster from 1905. They're printed on Bayside tees made in the USA and printed in Richmond, Virginia by Triple Stamp Press. Available here: https://genericindustries.bigcartel.com/I also got some more Suntour hats made, this time using an earlier version of the Suntour logo. Embroidered on Adams LP101 ivory blanks by Crewel & Unusual in Richmond, Virginia. Available here: https://genericindustries.bigcartel.com/Rather than doing direct sales please order thru the Big Cartel link. Managing all the email sales is a miniature nightmare! If you're international and see crazy shipping fees please reach out. Thanks! Eric

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report Videos

2023-08-28 Thread Keith Paugh

Nice work. I love seeing the localesThey look like very pleasant stretches to ride!k.On Aug 28, 2023, at 5:03 AM, John G  wrote:Fun.  Thank you for sharing. I always enjoy seeing where others ride.John GUnion Bridge, MDOn Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:58:41 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:Hi everyone,Eric’s videos inspired me to make a movie version of a ride report.We have lots of written ride reports and photo essays, so I thought we could also post videos of our rides. Here’s one I made yesterday, riding through Berkeley, San Ramon, and points beyond. Enjoy!Bike Rideyoutube.com



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Re: [RBW] Ride Report // Île d'Oléron

2023-08-21 Thread Keith Paugh

What a beautiful trip!So fun to see the countryside in such lovely places.k.On Aug 21, 2023, at 7:18 AM, John Johnson wrote:Hmmm, okay, I warned you that I'm new at this! Let me try again... Do these show up?<20230811_203434.jpg><20230811_173157.jpg><20230811_153741.jpg><20230811_115007.jpg><20230811_114047.jpg><20230809_103159.jpg>cheers,JohnOn Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:05:33 PM UTC+2 daniell...@gmail.com wrote:John, this sounds like my dream family vacation. Thanks for sharing/inspiring! I second Patrick's sentiments and request for a photo repost – I'd love to see them!On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 9:31:01 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:John: Welcome to the group and thanks for the vacation ride report. Can you repost the photos? They did not show up and I expect it's because the files are too big. But from your description they will be well worth seeing.Patrick MooreOn Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 3:53 AM John Johnson wrote:Hello everyone,I'm posting a ride report. It's my first and I hope this meets your rigorous group standards for what a "ride" consists of. For me, a ride is a ride - short or long, intense or easy, fast or party pace. Most of my rides these days are with my family (wife and 3 year old son). I am reporting on our week of rides vacationing on the Island of Oléron, of the coast of France (we live inland near Fontainebleau, so Oléron is only a few hours' drive away). Oléron is the second largest Island (after Corsica) in Metropolitan France. It's got a fairly mild climate in winter and summer and the main industries (if you want to call them that) are oyster farming, salt production, and wine growing. So, if you like quiet beaches, bikes, white wine, and oysters, it's not the worst place to spend your vacation. We took our 2 Clems, a Burley Bee trailer, and our kid's bike on the bike of the car and drive the 4 and half hours to get to the island, sitting in traffic to get across the bridge until we finally made it to a small BnB in the village of Dolus. We then parked the car and didn't touch it for the rest of the week. All our trips around the island were by bike and it is almost a perfect island for bike exploring on bike paths or dedicated bike lanes (there's only a few places we found where you can't avoid going onto a big main road with not shoulder). There are over 130 km of dedicated bike paths on the 30x8km island.The weather was less than stellar the first day we arrived - it was raining most of the drive to the island, and though the rain had stopped, it was cold and dreary the first day. That first evening we rode down to La Chevalerie for an "Oyster festival" though, I think it was just an ad hoc restaurant that one of the oyster farms set up for people vacationing on the island. Either way, I had the best oysters I've ever had, really great moules frites (which, we probably ate at least once a day while we were there), and decent bottle of local Pineau. We shivered a bit sitting outside with our meal, but once we were back on our bikes and riding through the cold night air, it was extremely pleasant riding weather. The rest of the week , it was warm, sunny and yeah, more/less perfect for riding and swimming.Our rides consisted mostly of riding la Cotinière or St. Pierre d'Oléron a few km away, or a slightly longer ride to St. Trojan les Bains in the south (to ride the famous little train that's there) or go see Fort Boyard from Boyardville. The routes to St Trojan or Boyardville go through tons of oyster-beds, and it's nice rustic scenery to ride through. The island is almost perfectly flat, so there's not much elevation to speak of - most of our rides were meandering around, stopping to look at horses, take photos, or check google maps again because we had gotten off track. Most of the bike routes are gravel or paved, but a few of them went through small forest tracks and we found ourselves in a bit of mud the first couple nights riding back in the dark after dinner (Google maps has some fun ideas about bike routes - definitely can take you off the beaten path, sometimes right into someone's garden, but always an adventure. After a few er, um... mistakes, we starting paying better attention to the bike path signs and stuck to them a bit more closely). Our pace was probably around 20 km/hour on average, not fast riding for sure, but definitely taking in the scenery. And with a kid on board, the joy is exploring, rather than fast riding anyway. He kept up his own though, riding a few kilometers here and there when we were in dedicated bike paths and getting in the trailer or the child seat for the longer rides. And Oléron proved to be ruggedly beautiful, blue-collar, calm, with lots to explore: everything you'd want in a family vacation by bike. Anyway, that's my "ride report". And here are a few photos.cheers,John

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheel Builder

2023-08-11 Thread Keith Paugh

I had some wheels built earlier this year with a Son front and a Silver rear hub. I think they might just be out of stock? 爛I’ve been really happy it.(Rich was really fun to work with btw)k.On Aug 11, 2023, at 8:56 AM, Johnny Alien wrote:I don't remember what happened to them or why they were discontinued. I know that not too too long ago RIch had some stock that he would use on some of his build to order stuff if you wanted but it would have to be done through him AND I have no idea if they still exist. No 40 but they did come in 36 for the rear.On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 11:33:20 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:Also, oddly enough Silver hubs are gone from the Riv site. Anyone know the story there? On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 11:26:15 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:Thanks Victor. Johnny, I've had loads of Deore hubs and currently have them on my Atlantis wheel set. They are a good option just not on the same level as Onyx or White Ind.On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 10:27:00 AM UTC-4 vhans...@gmail.com wrote:Gravy Wheels, King Kog or 'Dustinthewind bicycle repair. On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 7:04 AM Johnny Alien wrote:I don't know any midwest wheelbuilders to suggest but I can comment on the rear hub. I got some wheels build by Rich at Rivendell and we paired the Deore hubs with the Cliffhangers. He likes the hubs a bunch and they have been great for me. Very quiet. No need to spend a ton to get a really well made quiet hub.On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:13:50 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:I could use a recommendation for a good wheel builder. I've used prowheelbuilder.com in the past and have no complaints. Not sure how I landed on them. Just curious if there is another business that I should be looking into? I'm located in Indianapolis as well, and would prefer sending business to a local or at least midwest company if possible. I'm looking for a set of 700c wheels for my Atlantis. I'm thinking I'll do velocity cliffhangers with a SON up front and a nice rear hub. The rear is not yet totally decided as I like quiet hubs but there are not many options in rim brake, 36-40h hubs these days. I've got an onyx silent hub on my crust and love it but they only go up to 32h and I'd prefer 36 or 40 as I'm a big dude. Which is why I'm thinking about a white industry (loud as they come) rear hub in 36 or 40h. Anyway. I'd like to hear about your preferred wheel builders.

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Re: [RBW] New Member Introduction—Sam Hillborne commuter

2023-07-28 Thread Keith Paugh

Welcome Jorge!k.On Jul 28, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Jorge Espada Vick wrote:Hello, just wanted to introduce myself—I’m an on and off bike commuter that is currently “on.” I did one year of four seasons (Boston-area), but I may skip winter this year, more because of darkness than snow. My Sam Hillborne has been my bike the entire time (from 2009-10ish) and has essentially been my only adult bike—there was a long gap between it and a series of Toys-R-Us BMXs. I enjoy following conversations on this forum and the general un-racer attitude of Rivendell. My knowledge of bike mechanics and parts is close to nil, but I’m interested in learning and doing more on my Sam and appreciating it more on that level. Looking forward to learning from all of you about both practical and more philosophical aspects of riding, and riding a Rivendell specifically. Jorge

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Re: [RBW] Re: posters for Asheville Riv weekend

2023-07-11 Thread Keith Paugh

Those are beautiful.Looks like a great group came out too!k.On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:41 AM, 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:And for those of you that weren’t there, the posters are gorgeous. And accurate - Some bears actually joined some of us during the weekend :)On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 9:31:24 AM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:Hi everyone! There's still a dozen or so commemorative posters left from our Rivendell owners meet-up in Asheville this past weekend. If you would like to purchase one, you can do so directly via the link below:https://www.etsy.com/listing/1506233644/rivendell-owners-meetup-asheville-art?click_key=71d5b36ccbdf34afff4d4bc8adbbbab7e4d12242%3A1506233644_sum=5861b03c=shop_home_active_1If you were in attendance and failed to get one from me, just shoot me and email and we'll figure out a way to get one to you.These are 4-color screen prints, 16" x 20", signed and numbered in a limited edition of 40 on Cougar Natural 100# cover stock. Designed and hand-printed by yours truly. Thanks! - Brian

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

2023-06-10 Thread Keith Paugh

Definitely!
I was just thinking we should do this again this summer.
I've met some new, not-on-the-google-group L.A. Riv riders to add to the
mix this next time too.
k.

On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 6:41 AM Bryce Dwyer  wrote:

> I am! Saturday mornings are best for me but can swing a Friday now and
> then. There’s also July 3rd, a Monday that se folks may have off.
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 10:13 PM Tony Lockhart 
> wrote:
>
>> Anybody available for a group ride in July?
>>
>> @Houston - Thanks for sharing the folder with photos.
>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 5:08:28 PM UTC-7 tellyoutoday wrote:
>>
>>> This was a great time, thanks for putting it together, Houston. Really
>>> nice meeting everyone!
>>>
>>> Neale
>>> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 2:37:54 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>>>
 So sorry to have missed this!

 Looks like it was a hoot.

 Let plan another ride soon.

 k.

 On May 28, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Ben Adrian  wrote:

 Super fun!

 A good pile of Rivs. A number of other cool bikes. Even two e-bikes.
 Great conversation, everyone was super positive. Total type 1 fun.

 See you all at the next one!

 Ben

 On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 9:28:47 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> Great photos! I’ll definitely be at the next one.
>
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:08:04 PM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It was really nice meeting everyone today. Thanks for putting this
>> together, Houston! -Matt
>>
>> [image: 52930629896_37f8dac6c8_k.jpg]
>> [image: 52931014820_aa47186b7d_k.jpg]
>> [image: 52931069163_9fa788d6e4_k.jpg]
>> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 8:27:54 AM UTC-7 chris@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Same here, see you all in a bit.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 27, 2023, at 8:23 AM, Bryce Dwyer  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all — on my way but will likely arrive right at 9:00
>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:56:23 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 I'm looking forward to seeing y'all this Saturday at Griffith for
 our LA Riv meet-up! All riders are welcome, Riv bike owners or not.
 Originally, the meet-up was for 8 AM, but I want to push it back an 
 hour to
 start in some warmer weather. If anyone isn't cool with this, we can 
 always
 go back to the og time, just LMK.

 *As a reminder, here are the details:*

 When: 9 AM
 Where: Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 2650 N Vermont
 Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027

 Route: Loop around Vista del Valle to the Observatory around 10 mi
 with 1k ft. of climbing

 Optional Extras: If people want, we can throw in a pie stop at
 House of Pies after the Observatory &/or add on the Hollywood Sign 
 climb
 for folks who want to do some more climbing!

 -Houston

 On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 3:55:01 PM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> I'm planning on attending as well. Also thinking about the "single
> scoop" for the LA Invitational.
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 2:04 PM David Person 
> wrote:
>
>> I've marked my calendar.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:32:49 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: RBWLAMeetup.jpg]
>>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:56:40 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi y'all,

 Thank you for all of your feedback/responses! It's looking like
 May 27th has the highest level of availability! We can always 
 adjust
 specifics closer to the date, but for now let's keep the 
 morning/afternoon
 of the 27th open. As a tentative plan, let's meet at Franklin's 
 Cafe across
 from the Greek at 8 am.

 Isaac and Matt, I'm gonna try to make it out to the Cub House
 that weekend...it looks so sick!

 So excited to meet everyone!

 -Houston

 On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:48:04 AM UTC-7
 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Valley head checking in; I can't commit to any May dates but
> wanted rep the set.
>
> For awareness, Isaac is talking about the 2023 Los Angeles
> Invitational (Everyone's invited) 5/20 - 5/21
> . John Prolly's
> write 2022 write-up: A Weekend at The Cub House’s 2022 LA
>

Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

2023-05-28 Thread Keith Paugh

So sorry to have missed this!Looks like it was a hoot.Let plan another ride soon.k.On May 28, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Ben Adrian wrote:Super fun!A good pile of Rivs. A number of other cool bikes. Even two e-bikes.Great conversation, everyone was super positive. Total type 1 fun.See you all at the next one!BenOn Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 9:28:47 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:Great photos! I’ll definitely be at the next one. On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:08:04 PM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:It was really nice meeting everyone today. Thanks for putting this together, Houston! -MattOn Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 8:27:54 AM UTC-7 chris@gmail.com wrote:Same here, see you all in a bit. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 27, 2023, at 8:23 AM, Bryce Dwyer wrote:Hi all — on my way but will likely arrive right at 9:00On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:56:23 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:Hi everyone,I'm looking forward to seeing y'all this Saturday at Griffith for our LA Riv meet-up! All riders are welcome, Riv bike owners or not. Originally, the meet-up was for 8 AM, but I want to push it back an hour to start in some warmer weather. If anyone isn't cool with this, we can always go back to the og time, just LMK.As a reminder, here are the details:When: 9 AM Where: Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 2650 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027Route: Loop around Vista del Valle to the Observatory around 10 mi with 1k ft. of climbingOptional Extras: If people want, we can throw in a pie stop at House of Pies after the Observatory &/or add on the Hollywood Sign climb for folks who want to do some more climbing!-HoustonOn Friday, April 28, 2023 at 3:55:01 PM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:I'm planning on attending as well. Also thinking about the "single scoop" for the LA Invitational. On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 2:04 PM David Person wrote:I've marked my calendar.On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:32:49 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:56:40 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson wrote:Hi y'all,Thank you for all of your feedback/responses! It's looking like May 27th has the highest level of availability! We can always adjust specifics closer to the date, but for now let's keep the morning/afternoon of the 27th open. As a tentative plan, let's meet at Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 8 am. Isaac and Matt, I'm gonna try to make it out to the Cub House that weekend...it looks so sick! So excited to meet everyone! -HoustonOn Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 7:48:04 AM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:Valley head checking in; I can't commit to any May dates but wanted rep the set.For awareness, Isaac is talking about the 2023 Los Angeles Invitational (Everyone's invited) 5/20 - 5/21. John Prolly's write 2022 write-up: A Weekend at The Cub House’s 2022 LA InvitationalI signed up for the 55 mile ride on Saturday and reserved a spot at the swap. It's a great event and everyone is super nice. The swap is really good too because sellers usually have interesting or high end items.-MattOn Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:14:29 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:@isaac -- The Cub House events are right around the corner from meexcellent bike shop. And their community events are a blast. Definitely a great opportunity for a Pasadena ride especially since there are a ton of good coffee shops in the area.@bryce -- Yep, that was orange Sam at Palomares Adobe. What a great location. My daughter and I were attending the 626 event and happened upon the grounds. Will definitely go back there with the rest of the family in the future. BTW, your Atlantis looks dialed in. Really love the handlebar setup, and will probably go that route once the Roaduno frames come out.On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 2:03:38 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:Griffith Park would be doable for me 20th or 27th. David Black & Tan SamThousand OaksOn Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:54:53 AM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:Hi all –– Atlantis rider in the Pomona Valley here. I could likely make the 20th or the 27th, with a preference for the 27th.Tony: I think that was my Atlantis you saw! I'd guess that was your parked orange Riv at the Palomares Adobe that I saw too. What a coincidence!The Mt. Hollywood route is definitely a climb but it has some great payoff! I usually just take a break or two on my way up.On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 9:00:35 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:I can make it on the 13th or 27th. Also, I teach for a living so the schedule's wide open during the summer.On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 10:21:18 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:I am available on the 13th, but might be flexible on the 20thk.On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Brian Cunningham wrote:Of those 3 dates, I’m only available on the 27th, but my tricky schedule is not everyone else’s problem. I’ll join you if that ends up being the best date for all parties involved.Brian Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 25, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Houston Wilson

Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

2023-04-25 Thread Keith Paugh

I am available on the 13th, but might be flexible on the 20thk.On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Brian Cunningham wrote:Of those 3 dates, I’m only available on the 27th, but my tricky schedule is not everyone else’s problem. I’ll join you if that ends up being the best date for all parties involved.Brian Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 25, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Houston Wilson wrote:Yay, I'm loving hearing from y'all!1. Anyone have a preference for May 13th, 20th, or 27th?2. Regarding the route, it seems like most folks are out east, so Griffith seems like the best option. Ted D.--point taken about Griffith + Hollywood sign not being very chill. So, probably best to just stick to griffith, but if anyone wants to ride to the Hollywood sign after, I'd be super down! So, I'm thinking meet by the Greek and do a little loop up to Vista del Valle and around to the Observatory. This would be about 8 mi with ~1000 ft. of elevation. I don't ride in griffith a ton, so if anyone has route suggestions/food spots to hit up before/after...please share haha! On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 7:24:40 AM UTC-7 Bryan wrote:Hi! I might be able to make it, schedule permitting. Sounds fun!Bryan Edgar Valley VillageOn Monday, April 24, 2023 at 9:18:43 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:Count me in. I'm in South Pasadena (orange Hillborne bought in 2009). Haven't browsed this forum in a few years, but decided to check in because I wanted to go on a group ride. Oddly enough, I saw a parked Atlantis at the 626 Golden Streets event yesterday. Seems like the perfect time to meet up with some other folks, especially since some of the newer Rivs look drastically different.Cheers,TonyOn Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:08:22 AM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:Hey all!I will be out of the country for about two weeks in MAY, but would love to join if I am in town. By no means should the scheduling be done around my availability.Cheers!BenOn Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:34:17 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:I remember Ben/bunnyadrian planning a local ride last year.Has he seen this yet?On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:17:19 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 4:40:12 PM UTC-5 Houston Wilson wrote:Depending on where most folks are located, I think it could be cool to do the Will Rogers inspiration loop in the Western Santa Monica's or a Griffith Park/Hollywood Sign moment. Regardless, it'd be a chill pace with a cafe stop or two thrown in. I don't think I'm going to make it out that way in May. In fact, my LA daughter is planning to come here for a week. I'll watch the thread with interest, though. As for the route ... I can't imagine Griffith Park/Hollywood Sign being a very "chill" ride - that's a lot of climbing! But it's beautiful and fun.Ted DurantMilwaukee, WI (and occasionally Alhambra, CA)

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Re: [RBW] Los Angeles Riv Ride

2023-04-23 Thread Keith Paugh

I’d love to do this. I’m in.Keith from Mar VistaOn Apr 23, 2023, at 2:40 PM, Houston Wilson  wrote:Hi socal Riv riders,I've been lurking in the RBW Owners Bunch for a little while and I'm inspired by all of the regional rides being organized. Would anyone be interested in doing a LA Riv ride/meetup at some point in May? I'd love to ride with y'all, make some new friends, and ogle at your bikes! Depending on where most folks are located, I think it could be cool to do the Will Rogers inspiration loop in the Western Santa Monica's or a Griffith Park/Hollywood Sign moment. Regardless, it'd be a chill pace with a cafe stop or two thrown in. I'd love to hear from you, let me know your thoughts!-Houston from Venice



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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell paint color repetition: Your thoughts

2023-04-22 Thread Keith Paugh

Agreed.
I love the Harvest/Dark Gold colors, and the old Appolossa Mustard is so
lovely that if one ever surfaced in my size, I would recklessly snatch it
up on principle.

Normally green is my go to, but I was ever-so-slightly disappointed that
LimeOlive had made its way to another model so soon.
I thought we might get something new.

That being said, I would agonize over the perfect hue.
I'd love it... but don't envy being in charge of it.

k.

On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 3:36 PM DavidP  wrote:

> The HubbuHubbuH reminder newsletter
> 
> had a schedule for 2023 bikes with colors - two models are listed as having
> a new color.
>
> -Dave (who does not need a Lime-olive Roaduno)
>
> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 5:55:42 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I generally like the colors, and like that they cross several models so
>> you don't have to pick a specific frame to get the color you want. BUT..two
>> of the best bike colors ever were on the Bridgestone RB-1. We need bright
>> red and yellow Rivs!
>>
>> On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 1:39:48 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello friends — I've noticed that over the past few years Rivendell have
>>> been using some of the same paint colors on many frames through several
>>> production runs. If there's been a discussion of this practice, I've missed
>>> it.
>>>
>>> I can't quite put my finger on it but something about the same paint
>>> appearing on frames over and over leaves me scratching my head. Perhaps
>>> there's a missed opportunity to pin a color to a model or to cycle in new
>>> colors with new batches of frames?
>>>
>>> What do other members think? Do you appreciate the same colors appearing
>>> on different frames? Do you wish there was a wider variety of colors? Does
>>> it matter at all?
>>>
>>> Some of these colors I like quite a lot, others I appreciate. There
>>> isn't one that I dislike. The Lime Olive is always striking when it appears
>>> on a new frame, love it on the Hillbornes and Clems.
>>>
>>> The harvest gold, wow, looks killer on those Susies. Blew my mind on the
>>> Homers because they've always been a blue bike.
>>>
>>> I do miss the mustard from the older Appaloosas and the dark bronze that
>>> appeared on some Clems. These two colors paired with some of the newer
>>> colors currently in use demonstrate, I think, that Riv has some of the best
>>> paint colors in the biz. Really lovely stuff.
>>>
>>> Here's a far-from-complete list more or less off the top of my head of
>>> where current production colors have appeared:
>>>
>>> *Lime-olive*
>>> Platypus
>>> Susie
>>> Hillborne
>>> Clem
>>>
>>> *Mermaid*
>>> Appaloosa
>>> Platypus
>>> Roadini
>>> Gus
>>>
>>> *Harvest/Dark Gold*
>>> Hillborne
>>> Homer
>>> Susie
>>>
>>> *Ana Purple*
>>> Rosco Plat
>>> Appaloosa (next batch in 2023?)
>>> Road Uno or Gallop? (I can't remember but thought the purple was slated
>>> for one of these frames)
>>>
>>> *RBW Orange*
>>> Appaloosa
>>> Roadini
>>> Gus
>>>
>>> *RBW Blue*
>>> Too many to list?
>>> Appaloosa
>>> Clem
>>> Hillborne
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Appaloosa’s coming in June

2023-04-20 Thread Keith Paugh

Will told me LimeOlive & Purple were upcoming Appaloosa colors.k.On Apr 20, 2023, at 4:22 PM, Hoch in ut  wrote:Anyone have any details on the Appaloosa’s that’s supposed to go on sale in June? Geometry or color details? 



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Re: [RBW] Riv Garage Sale hauls

2023-04-17 Thread Keith Paugh

I’d take one of those PDFs if you eventually make them.Your haul looks like the makings of a beautiful bike! Be sure to post photos of it when it’s all built up.I keep thinking we need to organize a Greater L.A. Owners Bunch meet-up ride.k.On Apr 17, 2023, at 8:53 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:Hi! New to the group late to the thread. Went big at the garage sale, haha. Picked up my first Rivendell. Easy-going grocery-getter :) Very excited about the bars too.Also had a chance to talk with Rich Lesnik for a bit, which was a joy. Talked about working for an airline before Hands On Wheels/Rivendell. I've been wanting to get into wheel building for a while and asked him about tips when getting started. He said to avoid YouTube and pick up Gerd Schraner's book. I found a PDF online but the text was a bit funky, so I found an old one on eBay. Can make scans of it once it arrives if anyone would like a copy. Rosco Plat - 55cmNitto Boscomoose bars Cliffhanger wheel + rim (Rich was super generous with these)Silver crankold BrooksMatthew MillerLong Beach, CA/USAOn Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 2:22:47 AM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:I did neglect the coin keepers. Those were in a FREE! box along with several dozen of their siblings; same with the SKS minipump, which I grabbed because it's light and Schrader-only. Something to hand off to the first 26"/27"/29er rider I run into looking dumbfounded at their flatted tire). I also neglected the grey Cardiff rubber barplugs; I've got barplugs in all kinds of colors, but nothing in grey.But my big mention-neglect is the Arundel locking pump head, which looks like a CNC version of the Hirame locking pump head cloned by everybody. I wonder who came up with the idea first?Peter AdlerBerkeley, CA/USAOn Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 5:51:23 PM UTC-7 R. Alexis wrote:Looking at your picks looks like you forgot to mention the coin keeper/purse.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

2023-04-14 Thread Keith Paugh

Excited to see how your Maine Silver turns out.Send an email when next in Los Angeles. We’ll go ride!k.On Apr 14, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Ted Durant  wrote:And it begins again. I said I was thinking about building 1 olive and 1 silver, so I could have 1 of each at my daughters' homes in LA and Maine. That 51cm silver frame that was listed a few days ago is now hanging on the wall, waiting for parts. I feel a little bad "hoarding" Sams, but it's the PERFECT bike for riding in both places, so...I think the aesthetics will be more low key than my lime olive one.Ted Durant



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Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

2023-04-13 Thread Keith Paugh

Nick - Hot tip! The price is right too. Thanks!k.On Apr 13, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:Garth, it's the whole overall look of an SA that I'm not down with. The badge makes it even worse. I have an older X-series saddle in black, no badge. I'll give it a try on the Bridgestone. On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 9:07:29 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:That's a bummer about the IRD post, there's nothing worse than a wonky post ! Yeah, a SA saddle sounds like it would work for you Eric. I looked at their saddles just now and noticed the aluminum framed versions don't have a badge on the back, the name is engraved in the frame in small subtle letters. Does that look better to you ?  



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Re: [RBW] rack for Wald 139

2023-04-11 Thread Keith Paugh

I have a Sim Works Obento under my 139 Half basket.It has a slightly wider footprint than the other racks I researched, and has been fantastic.Very stable & light. I’ve been really pleased.That being said, if I was going to do it again (and might do anyway), I think I’d get a Pass & Stow rack.I love that you can run your generator light cable internally, and I think the welded support struts look stronger and more nicely laid out than anything else I’ve seen.The times I’ve seen a photo of a bike and said “ooo, what rack is that?!” - it’s usually been a Pass & Stow.k.On Apr 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, J Schwartz wrote:Thanks NickI haven't seen tha, but looking at it, I think it may be too small ...the platform is 9.5" long so the 139 would hang 3.5" off the front .Definitely keeping weight in mind and also surface area below the basket. I suspect something both wider and longer would be best.On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 8:55:20 PM UTC-4 nicklin...@gmail.com wrote:Have you considered a “Soma Lucas 3”? Approx. $60 I believe. Comes in black and silver. I have one and use it with a 137 and like it a lot. Might work well with a 139. Do keep the amount of weight you might want to carry (for safety) in mind though. NickSent from my iPadOn Apr 11, 2023, at 5:29 PM, J Schwartz wrote:GreetingsI'm interested in racking my Wald 139 big basket and am curious what ppl are using for a rack.I just got an email that the basket rack is back in stock at RBW, and I'm considering just buying it but I'm really just not onboard with spending $288 on a front rack despite how well it's made and special it is.. I may pull the trigger on it anyway but wanted to check here to see what users of the 139 are doing to attach it to the fronts of their bikes.I already have an old Nitto R14 "Top Rack" that I know some people have used in the front and zipped a 139 on top. Mine is older and doesn't have any diving board provisions so it's only 4 struts but I assume it's strong enough if installed well. My intention was to use that rack on the rear of the bike though.Any suggestions for a support for the 139 that isn't $288?thanksJS

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Re: [RBW] 1985 Bridgestone MB-3 build and video

2023-03-25 Thread Keith Paugh

Nice build Eric!Looked like fun to put together!k.On Mar 25, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Eric Marth wrote:Hi all — Last year I overhauled an '85 MB-3 for a friend of mine. I've finally finished the build video and it's up over here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4bVS9ovmMgThis was one of those builds that spent a lot of time sitting around the garage while I was figuring stuff out and waiting on parts. I picked it up on Marketplace for $120 but soon decided I overpaid. When I first looked at it the brakes didn't work and the tubes wouldn't inflate. There was funky silver and black spraypaint in spots, which I actually thought looked great. I later discovered the fork crown was twisted and the steerer tube was badly bent. Efforts to find a vintage fork with enough stack proved frustrating and I even bough two dud forks before finally settling on a Sunlite MTB fork that I almost find offensive. I'm pleased with the silver drivetrain and the understated upright build with Boscos. The new owner has been enjoying it on family outings and evening rides. Thanks for taking a look!Build list• 1985 Bridgestone MB-3, 23" frame, Cadet Blue• Sunlite Rigid MTB fork• FSA Duron 1" headset• Araya 26" wheelset• Schwalbe Fat Frank tires, 26 x 2.35• Nitto x RBW Bosco bar, 56cm• Nitto Technomic 11cm stem, 25.4 clamp• Suntour Power Thumb shifters• Shimano XT brake levers• Origin8 v-brakes• Jagwire cable housing, ice gray• WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset• Sakae SA Crankset 46x36x28• Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket• Shimano 6 speed freewheel, 14-34• MKS Grip King Lambda pedals• Shimano FD-AL11GS front derailer• Shimano RD-Z503 rear derailer• Kalloy Uno 26.6 seatpost• Brooks B17 standard saddle• Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules• Tanaka bottle cage

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale Saturday

2023-03-25 Thread Keith Paugh

Did you achieve #7?(Beautiful Atlantis )k.On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Matthew Williams  wrote:On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 11:04 AM Paul Choi  wrote:I'm planning on going to garage sale on Saturday. Is anyone else here planning on going?Hope to see some of the locals there. Cheers, Paul in Santa Clara



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Re: [RBW] Compact Half-Step plus Granny gearing

2023-02-26 Thread Keith Paugh

This is really cool. Interesting ideas at play.I want to see it in action.k.On Feb 26, 2023, at 9:49 AM, lconley wrote:Among other changes that I am making to my Bombadil, I am converting to my favorite triple gearing: a half-step plus granny. The idea behind a half-step plus granny is that the two large chainrings on a triple are close in size so that you can split the difference (half-step) between any two sprockets on the rear. The inner chainring on the front is a small bailout or "granny" gear. This strategy works best when you have a limited number of rear cogs - fairly unnecessary when you have 11 or 12 rear cogs. The rear cogs should maintain as constant of a % difference (step) as possible - this means that the number of teeth difference between cogs will increase as the cogs get larger.I had a Sugino triple on the front - I kept the stainless steel 24t granny and used TA Zephyr 39 and 42 middle and outer chainrings (from Peter White). The 7 speed freewheel is an NOS Suntour New Winner 12-14-16-18-21-26-34 that I bought a few years back for this purpose (they seem to have gotten very pricey as of late). This gives me 18 distinct, non-overlapping gears from 19 to 95. You do have to double shift (front and rear) sometimes to get the gear you want. When I was younger, I taped my gear ratios on top of the stem.I use 7 speed freewheels for the rear hub for the same reason that Rivendell is looking into producing 7 speed cassette hubs - less wheel dish means a stronger wheel. So far I have acquired 3 Phil Wood rear hubs that were either 7 speed 135mm, or that I converted to 7 speed 135mm - a 36 hole, 40 hole and my latest - an NOS 48 hole. The 48 hole is going on the Bombadil to replace the 40 on it now.One kind of odd thing about this is that the chainrings have ramps and pins, but the freewheel has none. I expect it to shift just fine. Rear derailleur is all silver Sun XCD and the front will be either the all silver IRD Alpina-d already on the bike or an all silver IRD Sub-C - whichever plays best with the chainring combination. The chain is a stainless steel Wippermann 8 speed that I have ultrasonically cleaned and Molten Speed Waxed.Bar end shifters will be either Dura-Ace 8 speed or Rivendell Silver 2. If the indexing works with the Dura-Ace shifters - they will be used, otherwise friction will be the Silver 2.LaingDelray Beach FL

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Re: [RBW] Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

2023-02-16 Thread Keith Paugh

Brian! These photos are really fun to see. Thanks for posting everyone.k.On Feb 16, 2023, at 4:36 PM, Eric Marth wrote:Wow, Takashi, John, Eric and Brian, some great pics here!Eric, I'm glad you could get that Boxy Bag installed. On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:34:39 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:Ok, Prize Winner! Paul Germain Midlothian, Va,On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 2:20:17 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:My wife and I typically spend our winters with our dogs and bikes on a little barrier island south of Tampa Bay. This morning, I pedaled my Gus up the beach to check out a sailboat that washed up over the weekend. Sorry it’s not a “wintry” photo per se, but I thought it made for a nice Winter bike memory…- BrianOn Feb 10, 2023, at 2:18 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:I was in Davis, CA, yesterday, so I took the opportunity to head out to the graffiti-covered Stevenson Creek Bridge with my ’97 Riv Road Standard. Shot these on Kodak Tri-X with a Canon Snappy LX camera. The Baggins/Nitto front bag combo arrived a little while ago from another list member. The seat bag has been adorning a series of bikes since 2005, and has been pretty much everywhere.
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Re: [RBW] Intense Swiss alpine descents cycling video

2023-02-09 Thread Keith Paugh

This is great. Fun to watch.
Beautiful country. I love it when a place is unmistakable for any other.

Reminded me of the Claude Lelouch film Renez-vous

Another very different type of "riding" mind you.
Thanks for sharing!
k.

On Feb 9, 2023, at 6:25 AM, Eric Marth wrote:

This is well outside the style of bikes and riding we discuss around here
but I wanted to share a video I've enjoyed. Forgive me if this has been
discussed or shared before.

https://youtu.be/0GkDEmalrRc

It's from Safa Brian, a former bicycle messenger with a popular cycling
YouTube channel. And you might have seen in some of Terry B's videos (also
NSFRBW). The video collects some of his long descents from a trip to
Switzerland in 2022.

There are beautiful vistas, impressive roads, cows, bridges, cobbles, fog,
mist, chateaux, tunnels and stunning mountains. There is crazy speed,
carbon bikes, dangerous maneuvering, fast music and a crash.

I've watched this twice in the past few months and find it totally
mesmerizing, it's a blast. I've read about all of these passes in Jobst
Brandt's alpine ride diaries so it's nice to have some moving pictures of
these places.

At over twenty minutes there's plenty to see and there are some nice scenes
intercut with what looks like 8mm film footage and alpine b-roll.

Too crazy for you? A fun viewing experience? I don't think I'll ever ride
anything like this but I've found it a real pleasure to watch.

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Re: [RBW] Re: English subtitles for Blue Lug's video

2023-02-03 Thread Keith Paugh

This is great! I have watched several Blue Lug videos in Japanese, and while soothing and delightful, I am always grateful for those that are subtitled.Here’s to Masa, and bilingual bicycling! k.On Feb 3, 2023, at 5:10 AM, J  wrote:Great work on the Subtitles!On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 7:26:58 AM UTC-5 Masa wrote:Hello all!This is my first post of 2023, I hope you are having good rides!Last month I happened to have an opportunity to make subtitles for Blue Lug’s YouTube channel and now the “Rivendell Chart” video is English subtitled!Let me tell you how it happened. First of all, When I finished watching the video I felt that “oh this video should be shared with English speaking Rivendell fans(means this "RBW Owners Bunch) too” so I started translating the video briefly.Then I found someone commented that “Subtitles please!” and Blue Lug replied “we’d love to but at the moment we are too busy so we need a help”. I thought that “why don’t I do that?”It took me a week to complete subtitling between my work, playing with my baby, feeding my baby, putting my baby to sleep, sleeping with my baby, chatting with my wife and commuting by my Platypus.It was a really fun work to do related to not only the things I’m passionate about which are languages and bicycles but also favourite people who are Rivendell and Blue Lug!I would be very happy that if I could be a help for Rivendell and Blue Lug. Ultimately I hope people who watch the subtitled video will find how Rivendell bicycles are amazing even better than before, that would be amazing.Link to the video↓https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx83uMhIgKAMasa



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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

2023-01-24 Thread Keith Paugh

Thanks Kieran!Beautiful collection of bikes. Fun to see.k.On Jan 24, 2023, at 5:47 PM, Kieran J wrote:Those are the cream Longboards that Riv used to sell. KJOn Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-8 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:The fenders were SKS. I was surprised.On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:58:28 PM UTC-6 Keith P. wrote:Anyone know who makes those cream fenders on the Curt & Ram?k.On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 4:52 PM Bill Lindsay wrote:Yeah, I kind of want that grey Hilsen ... When's my birthday? Two weeks away!BL in ECOn Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:31:31 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:I checked these out today and picked up the blue Homer. My first riv! I've got some stuff to change on it but i am super excited.The grey 'homer' is indeed a 650b canti bike. Prob a saluki as Bill suggested. Paint was really nice.The Ram also had 650b wheels with long reach brakes at the bottom of the slots. Also had nice, presumably custom, paint.The Curt was a beautiful bike. Had 700x38 tires with fenders. Looked like it would clear a little bigger with fenders. Maybe a 42 or 45 without.The Riv custom had 26" wheels. Tires that were on it were 35 or 38. Again could probably fit a 42 or 45 but not much more.All the bikes are in the 60cm range with top tubes between 57-59. The seller, Steve, was super nice and I'm sure would be happy to provide whatever info someone may be looking for if you give him a ring. He didn't seem keen on shipping the bikes because of how big of a pain it is (i feel him on that), but I bet he'd be open to delivering to a local shop to arrange shipping.-BrianOn Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:What a collection! All look very clean too. Acknowledging the keen eyes here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer accurate information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to Saint Louis??) TomOn Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried to get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.Frank On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be able to find someone to take it off your hands. As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by Curt Goodrich. If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs. If the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might as well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the re-paint (and brake mod?). It and both of the Homers (or Homer and re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built. Also very high quality. (The lugs are the giveaway) On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. Thanks, everyone.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

2023-01-24 Thread Keith Paugh

Anyone know who makes those cream fenders on the Curt & Ram?
k.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 4:52 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Yeah, I kind of want that grey Hilsen ... When's my birthday?  Two weeks
> away!
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 11:31:31 AM UTC-8 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I checked these out today and picked up the blue Homer. My first riv!
>> I've got some stuff to change on it but i am super excited.
>>
>> The grey 'homer' is indeed a 650b canti bike. Prob a saluki as Bill
>> suggested. Paint was really nice.
>>
>> The Ram also had 650b wheels with long reach brakes at the bottom of the
>> slots. Also had nice, presumably custom, paint.
>>
>> The Curt was a beautiful bike. Had 700x38 tires with fenders. Looked like
>> it would clear a little bigger with fenders. Maybe a 42 or 45 without.
>>
>> The Riv custom had 26" wheels. Tires that were on it were 35 or 38. Again
>> could probably fit a 42 or 45 but not much more.
>>
>> All the bikes are in the 60cm range with top tubes between 57-59. The
>> seller, Steve, was super nice and I'm sure would be happy to provide
>> whatever info someone may be looking for if you give him a ring. He didn't
>> seem keen on shipping the bikes because of how big of a pain it is (i feel
>> him on that), but I bet he'd be open to delivering to a local shop to
>> arrange shipping.
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>>> What a collection!  All look very clean too.  Acknowledging the keen
>>> eyes here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer
>>> accurate information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to
>>> Saint Louis??)
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>>>
 Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried
 to get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He
 refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building
 again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.
 Frank

 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
> Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run.
> They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds
> are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they
> have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that
> would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular.
> I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a
> Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be 
> able
> to find someone to take it off your hands.
>
> As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by
> Curt Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If
> the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might 
> as
> well be), then you won't go wrong with that one.
>
> The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the
> re-paint (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and
> re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are
> the giveaway)
>
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes
> 
> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them.
> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all
> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the
> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely
> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be
> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I
> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the
> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models.
> Thanks, everyone.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fendering My Atlantis

2023-01-22 Thread Keith Paugh

Great looking bike, Luke!

k.

> On Jan 22, 2023, at 8:49 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
> wrote:
> 
> Here are some photos from the shop taken this afternoon. I’m very pleased 
> and have decided to leave some extra strut just in case. 
> 
>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 10:15:49 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>> I just finished the install this evening. I needed to slightly squish the 
>> rear fender at the chain stay mount and do the same for the front fender 
>> with the fork. Clearance wasn’t compromised however it added a certain level 
>> of difficulty to the front fender install. I still need to finish adjusting 
>> the spacing/alignment in the front, and I’m quite satisfied with the rear 
>> fender. I’ll be sure to snap some photos in the daylight tomorrow for 
>> reference. 
>> 
>>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 4:21:13 PM UTC-8 brizbarn wrote:
>>> No problem. Looks like you’re right, they are listed as 63mm. I don’t think 
>>> that number has changed, I just remembered it wrong. So that means my 55mm 
>>> wide tires fit 63mm fenders. And for reference, I have Velocity Cliffhanger 
>>> 700c rims. 
>>> 
>>> Brian 
>>> 
> On Jan 20, 2023, at 2:21 PM, DavidP  wrote:
> 
 Thanks for that great example and photos (and nice Appaloosa!). VO lists 
 the 700c fluted fenders as 63mm wide - are yours actually 65mm?
>>> 
 
 -Dave (who's thinking that fluted 63mm fenders could just squeeze into his 
 Platy)
 
>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 3:53:26 PM UTC-5 brizbarn wrote:
>> 
>> I run velo orange fluted 65 on my Appaloosa with 700x55 Terravail 
>> Sparwood tires.  It's a tight fit, but don't think I had to mod the 
>> fenders at all, maybe a slight dimple.  The fenders just barely fit in 
>> the frame and fork, so imagine the bigger Honjo options would definitely 
>> need some modifying, but maybe the Atlantis has bit more clearance.  
>> Overall I like them, and the tight fit has not been an issue so far.  
>> Flat Honjos would likely give more room than my fluted ones.I 
>>  
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul home polish

2023-01-21 Thread Keith Paugh

I’ve been meaning to ask how you think they compare to the Paul’s Polished.

Yours seem to be slightly more matte than paul’s? (in a better way)

k.

> On Jan 21, 2023, at 2:50 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eliot — Maybe I'll get out the big camera and share some pics tomorrow. 
> Looking nice and smooth to my liking, if a bit dirty. Definitely still prefer 
> it over the original dull silver finish. 
> 
> If anyone's curious, we discussed stripping and de-anodizing in another 
> thread here: 
> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/yiTONeLDy14/m/Som_xgu_AwAJ
> 
> And here's a picture of the parts after I de-anodized and polished. One set 
> of neo-retros, touring cantis and moon units were black. The other 
> neo-retros, touring cantis, levers and moon units were Paul "silver" or dull 
> anodized. 
> 
> Levers and one full set of brakes are on my Appaloosa. The other set of 
> cantis are on a new build I just finished. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 4:39:59 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Eric, how are your home polished Paul’s holding up?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Exploration: Make your own pump peg

2023-01-17 Thread Keith Paugh

Ingenious solutions all around.
Full marks!
k.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 9:48 PM Wesley  wrote:

> This is cool, Eric - but how is it better than using the pump peg that was
> so thoughtfully brazed onto your frame?
> -Wes
>
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 7:05:38 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I read Will's post about how to make your own pump peg on the Blug a long
>> while back:
>>
>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/185595499869/how-to-make-your-own-pump-pegs
>>
>> You take a p-clamp, some spacers and modify a Nitto strut and you've got
>> a pump peg somewhere you might not have had one before. Will likes to put
>> his in the rear triangle and you'll notice them mounted this way on a lot
>> of his bikes.
>>
>> [image: tumblr_inline_pt3zzjpbXk1qdvnvk_500.jpg]
>> [image: tumblr_inline_pt401jwzC21qdvnvk_500.jpg]
>>
>> This is great, I love it, cool hack! But I've always wanted for a version
>> that doesn't require tracking down and destroying a Nitto strut. Riv HQ is
>> probably awash in Nitto struts and they have em poking out of the coffee
>> cans on everyone's desk all over the place. But not so for me, Nitto struts
>> are precious few in my shed.
>>
>> I think I came up with the right shape and this weekend I picked up an
>> electrical ring terminal in the 10-12 size, yellow sleeve.
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-01-17 at 9.56.39 PM.png][image: Screen Shot
>> 2023-01-17 at 9.56.44 PM.png]
>>
>> Holding the ring end with one pair of pliers you can easily remove the
>> yellow sleeve with a second pair of pliers. A pack of 15 is $4.50. If your
>> local hardware store has a bulk/loose hardware section you can get one for
>> around 55¢ (at least I did).
>>
>> Paired with a 3/8" insulated cable clamp (2 for $2.20), a few serrated
>> brake washers, an M5 bolt and a nylock nut I had a fashioned a pump peg.
>> Didn't have to cut or shape any metal or destroy any high-end Japanese rack
>> struts.
>>
>> [image: IMG_4875.JPG]
>>
>> [image: IMG_4874.JPG]
>>
>> I have yet to SUPER TEST this out but wanted to share all the same.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

2022-12-07 Thread Keith Paugh

Of course.
Crafty.

Good sleuthing!
k.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 1:52 PM CC  wrote:

> Keith,
> If you click on a size and color and then put in a high quantity, it will
> tell you that you can only add so many to your cart.
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022, 4:46 PM Keith Paugh  wrote:
>
>> Out of curiosity, how’d did up that info?
>>
>> k.
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:55 PM, DavidP  wrote:
>>
>> Here's what's left after ~50 minutes:
>> 48cm, 1 silver, 6 olive
>> 51cm, 5 silver, 8 olive
>> 54cm, 1 silver, 5 olive
>> 57cm, 1 silver, 1 olive
>> 60cm, 6 silver, 6 olive
>>
>> Seem to be selling way faster than the Platys (assuming a similar # of
>> frames available, which seems reasonable as I believe they've said this is
>> the most popular model). And if colors are equal silver is very popular.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:30:11 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Might have been me?
>>>
>>> I got a Silver 54 as well. First Riv.
>>> Excited and relieved.
>>>
>>> I wonder how they are moving this round.
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:21 PM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice Drew.  I nabbed a 54cm Silver as well.  Already spoke with Vince.
>>> Since their parts bin is deeper than mine I am going to have them build it
>>> up and leave my RB-1 shiny bits where they are.  #2 in line.  Someone out
>>> there is faaat.  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:16:25 PM UTC-5 Drew Henson wrote:
>>>
>>>> just grabbed a 54cm silver. i went into thinking i'd go for a limeolive
>>>> but something about the very understated silver made me change my mind at
>>>> the last minute.
>>>>
>>>> i have an 87 cm pbh so i could have fit the 57 but i wanted to fall on
>>>> the upper end of the fit range. really keen to see how this rides
>>>> differently than my 2019 MIT Homer. now the fun begins... finding all the
>>>> build parts!
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 5:59:19 PM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’m with you Eric.  My Saluki which I got last winter is a taupe and
>>>>> it looks great with brown and grays.  If I was ready to sell my Hillborne 
>>>>> I
>>>>> would order a Silver tomorrow.  But it makes no sense.  If someone was hot
>>>>> for a bright orange I could be tempted.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 6:58 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Joel — I might be forgetting a color here or there but... I think
>>>>>> these new ones plus the black are my favorite paint colors for all the
>>>>>> Hillbornes :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think these new colors will look especially good with some kinda
>>>>>> warm-tones saddle (tan, brown), nice big tires with gum sidewalls and 
>>>>>> warm
>>>>>> bar tape and grips! Subtle, timeless warmth. Just me, that's my thing,
>>>>>> maxing out the neutrals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:05:44 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric, I agree.  I do like the blue, have an Orange that I bought as
>>>>>>> it was the only one I could find when Riv was out, it is ok but not my
>>>>>>> favorite color. Love that new Silver.  My favorite colors are the Black
>>>>>>> (like your repainted one) and the new Silver, absolutely beautiful 
>>>>>>> colors.
>>>>>>> There are probably others I have not seen but that silver has my vote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 12:22 PM Eric Marth 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll be interested to see how quickly these move. The Hillbornes
>>>>>>>> are such great bikes, adaptable for many purposes. I could definitely 
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> the paint colors this round getting buyers excited. Nothing against 
>>>>>>>> 'em but
>>>>>>>> the RBW blue, orange and harvest gold didn't do much for me. New 
>>>>>>>> colors are
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

2022-12-07 Thread Keith Paugh

Out of curiosity, how’d did up that info?

k.

> On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:55 PM, DavidP  wrote:
> 
> Here's what's left after ~50 minutes:
> 48cm, 1 silver, 6 olive
> 51cm, 5 silver, 8 olive
> 54cm, 1 silver, 5 olive
> 57cm, 1 silver, 1 olive
> 60cm, 6 silver, 6 olive
> 
> Seem to be selling way faster than the Platys (assuming a similar # of frames 
> available, which seems reasonable as I believe they've said this is the most 
> popular model). And if colors are equal silver is very popular.
> 
> -Dave
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:30:11 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:
>> Might have been me?
>> 
>> I got a Silver 54 as well. First Riv. 
>> Excited and relieved.
>> 
>> I wonder how they are moving this round.
>> k.
>> 
 On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:21 PM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch 
  wrote:
 
>>> Nice Drew.  I nabbed a 54cm Silver as well.  Already spoke with Vince.  
>>> Since their parts bin is deeper than mine I am going to have them build it 
>>> up and leave my RB-1 shiny bits where they are.  #2 in line.  Someone out 
>>> there is faaat.  :-)
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:16:25 PM UTC-5 Drew Henson wrote:
 just grabbed a 54cm silver. i went into thinking i'd go for a limeolive 
 but something about the very understated silver made me change my mind at 
 the last minute.
 
 i have an 87 cm pbh so i could have fit the 57 but i wanted to fall on the 
 upper end of the fit range. really keen to see how this rides differently 
 than my 2019 MIT Homer. now the fun begins... finding all the build parts!
 
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 5:59:19 PM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
> I’m with you Eric.  My Saluki which I got last winter is a taupe and it 
> looks great with brown and grays.  If I was ready to sell my Hillborne I 
> would order a Silver tomorrow.  But it makes no sense.  If someone was 
> hot for a bright orange I could be tempted.  
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 6:58 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>> Joel — I might be forgetting a color here or there but... I think these 
>> new ones plus the black are my favorite paint colors for all the 
>> Hillbornes :) 
>> 
>> I think these new colors will look especially good with some kinda 
>> warm-tones saddle (tan, brown), nice big tires with gum sidewalls and 
>> warm bar tape and grips! Subtle, timeless warmth. Just me, that's my 
>> thing, maxing out the neutrals. 
>> 
 On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:05:44 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Eric, I agree.  I do like the blue, have an Orange that I bought as it 
 was the only one I could find when Riv was out, it is ok but not my 
 favorite color. Love that new Silver.  My favorite colors are the 
 Black (like your repainted one) and the new Silver, absolutely 
 beautiful colors. There are probably others I have not seen but that 
 silver has my vote. 
 
 On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 12:22 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
 I'll be interested to see how quickly these move. The Hillbornes are 
 such great bikes, adaptable for many purposes. I could definitely see 
 the paint colors this round getting buyers excited. Nothing against 
 'em but the RBW blue, orange and harvest gold didn't do much for me. 
 New colors are rel good. 
 
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:18:17 AM UTC-5 
>> edwardb...@gmail.com wrote:
>> But that green is causing it to heat back up 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 8:09 AM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>> I’m with Johnny. I think the market is cooling down. 
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022, Johnny Alien  
>>> wrote:
>> 
 It will sell well but I don't think we are going to see immediate 
 sell outs on anything the way it had been happening.
 
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:52:36 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard 
> wrote:
> Yep. The folks who will never ride a mixte/step-thru haven't had 
> a lugged Riv on the block in quite a while and these colors are 
> spectacular. Don't doddle! 
> 
>> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:41:51 PM UTC-8 
>> eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Do you folks think they will sell out quickly ?
>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:30 PM J S  wrote:
>>> Paul, my custom was 56cm measured by Grant, my Hillborne is 
>>> 51cm and fits as it should.  
>>> 
 On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 2:56 PM Paul Clifton 
  wrote:
 I'm not looking to buy a Sam, but I just glanced at the size 
 chart on Instagram, and, wow, the sizing has changed 
 dramatically over the years. My PBH is

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

2022-12-07 Thread Keith Paugh

Might have been me?

I got a Silver 54 as well. First Riv. 
Excited and relieved.

I wonder how they are moving this round.
k.

> On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:21 PM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice Drew.  I nabbed a 54cm Silver as well.  Already spoke with Vince.  
> Since their parts bin is deeper than mine I am going to have them build it up 
> and leave my RB-1 shiny bits where they are.  #2 in line.  Someone out there 
> is faaat.  :-)
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:16:25 PM UTC-5 Drew Henson wrote:
>> just grabbed a 54cm silver. i went into thinking i'd go for a limeolive but 
>> something about the very understated silver made me change my mind at the 
>> last minute.
>> 
>> i have an 87 cm pbh so i could have fit the 57 but i wanted to fall on the 
>> upper end of the fit range. really keen to see how this rides differently 
>> than my 2019 MIT Homer. now the fun begins... finding all the build parts!
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 5:59:19 PM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I’m with you Eric.  My Saluki which I got last winter is a taupe and it 
>>> looks great with brown and grays.  If I was ready to sell my Hillborne I 
>>> would order a Silver tomorrow.  But it makes no sense.  If someone was hot 
>>> for a bright orange I could be tempted.  
>>> 
 On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 6:58 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
 Joel — I might be forgetting a color here or there but... I think these 
 new ones plus the black are my favorite paint colors for all the 
 Hillbornes :) 
 
 I think these new colors will look especially good with some kinda 
 warm-tones saddle (tan, brown), nice big tires with gum sidewalls and warm 
 bar tape and grips! Subtle, timeless warmth. Just me, that's my thing, 
 maxing out the neutrals. 
 
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:05:44 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Eric, I agree.  I do like the blue, have an Orange that I bought as it 
>> was the only one I could find when Riv was out, it is ok but not my 
>> favorite color. Love that new Silver.  My favorite colors are the Black 
>> (like your repainted one) and the new Silver, absolutely beautiful 
>> colors. There are probably others I have not seen but that silver has my 
>> vote. 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 12:22 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>> I'll be interested to see how quickly these move. The Hillbornes are 
>> such great bikes, adaptable for many purposes. I could definitely see 
>> the paint colors this round getting buyers excited. Nothing against 'em 
>> but the RBW blue, orange and harvest gold didn't do much for me. New 
>> colors are rel good. 
>> 
 On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:18:17 AM UTC-5 edwardb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 But that green is causing it to heat back up 
 
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 8:09 AM Eric Daume  wrote:
> I’m with Johnny. I think the market is cooling down. 
> 
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022, Johnny Alien  
> wrote:
 
>> It will sell well but I don't think we are going to see immediate 
>> sell outs on anything the way it had been happening.
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:52:36 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> Yep. The folks who will never ride a mixte/step-thru haven't had a 
>>> lugged Riv on the block in quite a while and these colors are 
>>> spectacular. Don't doddle! 
>>> 
 On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:41:51 PM UTC-8 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Do you folks think they will sell out quickly ?
 
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:30 PM J S  wrote:
> Paul, my custom was 56cm measured by Grant, my Hillborne is 51cm 
> and fits as it should.  
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 2:56 PM Paul Clifton 
>>  wrote:
>> I'm not looking to buy a Sam, but I just glanced at the size 
>> chart on Instagram, and, wow, the sizing has changed 
>> dramatically over the years. My PBH is 82cm. That puts me on a 
>> 51cm Sam for this current batch. When I test rode one of the 
>> originals with caliper brakes, it was a 56cm I believe, and it 
>> fit perfectly. I haven't kept up with the geometry changes, but 
>> I'd really like to see what it's like to ride a 51cm frame and 
>> be at the top end of a size range for once. I bet the reach 
>> would be sublime.
>> 
>> Paul in AR
>> 
>>> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 1:47:53 PM UTC-6 Houston Wilson 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> I'd love the catalog!! 
>>> Houston Wilson
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>> 
 On Friday,

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

2022-12-01 Thread Keith Paugh

Yeah, I've been on high alert since the beginning of November. Can't wait.
We're almost there.
I thought I was going silver till I saw how the olive turned out... hard
decisions to be made.


On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 9:29 AM Brian Turner  wrote:

> I really want one of these, because the lime olive is so gorgeous, but I
> don't think I'll be able to fund another Rivendell so soon after building
> up my Gus just a couple months ago.
> I might try to pick up a used dark gold Sam sometime in the next year or
> so, or maybe if someone is selling one from this batch.
>
> Anyone want to take any bets on whether or not they've made any changes to
> the geometry and sizes available?
>
> -Brian
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 11:29:16 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not getting a new Sam, as I've already got one, but these colors look
>> great. I scraped the images from the instagram post
>> 
>> Will linked in his last email from House of the Rising Sun in Jakarta.
>>
>> [image: sam limeolive.jpg]
>>
>> [image: samsilver.jpg]
>>
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 10:04:00 AM UTC-5 jak...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Anxiously awaiting the new Sams to land on our shores and am obsessing
>>> over the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your
>>> experiences have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until
>>> I saw the early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.
>>>
>>> Anyone going in on these?  I feel like I am on baby watch!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Ride Report: Hawksbill Slope cabin overnighter

2022-11-18 Thread Keith Paugh

What fun overnight adventure. Thanks for the engrossing write up!k.On Nov 18, 2022, at 7:11 AM, Eric Marth wrote:Thank you all for the nice comments and for reading along. Dave — That was the most weight I've had in the front bag for anything more than a quick ride home from the co-op. It did effect the handling but I got used to it pretty quickly. There were a few times while climbing when I was trying to maneuver around a rock in the road and ended up kinda tipping over, no big deal. I'm eager to revise my packing to get the weight way down. I've attached a packing list that's accurate to the best of my memory. It's a lot. I'd also love to go rackless. I tried to mount the Chest from my saddle but couldn't get it all worked out. I've had parts laying around for a bootlegged Pec Deck for some time. Randy — It was certainly different than my last trip out of town with a fancy hotel stay for a wedding and paid for by my in-laws! On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 9:05:11 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Intoxicating read! Now I have the “itch” real bad.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 17, 2022, at 8:22 PM, Eric Marth wrote:Ride Report: Hawksbill Slope Cabin Overnighter14-15 November 202264 miles, 7,250 ft elevation This summer and early fall passed without any camping or overnight trips by bicycle. So a series of rides and ideas came together and I booked a primitive cabin for Monday night, earlier this week. I decided to make a loop of some fire roads I checked out in September with a stop for the night in the middle. Once I made the reservation I reached out to Paul R. to see if he’d like to join. To my surprise he was game for a Monday night out. Temperatures Monday were predicted to peak in the high 40s and dip down well below freezing up on the mountain where we’d be staying. Rain and snow were in the cards for our return on Tuesday and warming up to 38º. With bad weather and short days in mind we met at the cracking hour of 11:00 AM. We would have preferred to start earlier but obligations sometimes call for a late start or no start at all. I unloaded my Appaloosa and did a final check of my luggage and gear. Paul arrived with his XL Susie Longbolts shoved in the back seat of his Honda. Even with the front wheel removed the wheelbase barely allowed the back doors to close. By 11:50 we were on our way, with temperatures comfortably in the high 40s. The first eight miles took us through beautiful rolling countryside with cattle grazing, old brick houses on hills and the last rusty brown vestiges of crumbling foliage. We were on a mix of pavement and well-maintained gravel roads. The route took us through a neighborhood of small beautiful farms on a road that runs parallel to a stream. The road continued on in a way that felt like trespassing as we rode between barns, over corn and soy fields, past a tractor shed and through fields cut for hay. Next we turned onto a painted highway with a posted speed of 45mph and rode along for about two miles. During our first day this was our only stretch of riding with paint on the road. We skirted around a mountain and had our first fun and short descent on a twisty paved road. We pulled into a neighborhood of old apple-packing warehouses and a convenience store with a deli, likely a good place to stop, according to Paul who ran inside. Bulk candy, camping goods, deli sandwiches and the rest. We surveyed a few bins full of local apples that were stationed out on the road. I found my local favorite, the Black Twig and we got four apples for $2. They were fantastically good. We enjoyed some more lovely country riding before starting on a long climb that took our elevation from 600 feet to 3,500 feet over 18 miles without interruption. The way up is via a wooded fire and maintenance road that is at times quite rocky but easily passible by bike… if your legs are up for it. You would need a serious 4x4 vehicle with clearance to make it up these roads and the few campers and people out fishing were in one-ton trucks. There are a few steep, rocky, loose descents on the way up, short reprieves from long and steady climbing. According to my GPS we climbed for three hours. We took one snack break early on and had a few quick stops but for the most part we were grinding away. Paul longed for a bag of potato chips, craving salt and tired of all the chewing required of his nutty trail mix. I don’t have many pictures from this section as I was very focussed on trying to make it to the cabin before dark. The early sunset and our vital camp chores were top of mind. Once we arrived we needed to gather firewood and water. Without electricity or plumbing we were reliant on the woodstove for heat and the spring for hydration. Stumbling around in steep and unfamiliar terrain searching for wood and water was something I hoped to avoid. As we were passing a gate with signs that announced bicycles were prohibited we encountered a traveller on a flat bar mountain bike with

Re: [RBW] New Fork Paint Options!

2022-10-25 Thread Keith Paugh

Gotcha.
Well, it turned out great.
Love that you have some touch up too.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 8:31 PM Matthew Williams <
matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks! Pantone 7558 is the closest, but Rick matched the color to the
> frame.
>
>
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> On Oct 25, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Keith P.  wrote:
>
> It just looks dynamite Matthew!
> What a fantastic color.
>
> I can't wait to see it built up.
>
> I'm on the edge of my chromatic seat though. Which did you end up going
> with?! 126 or 7558?
> (My guess is the latter)
>
> k.
>
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 3:59:00 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I just got my fork back from Rick, at D Cycles. After a lot of color
>> explorations, I decided to paint the fork to match the frame--I like the
>> butterscotch/mustard/antique gold color more than I realized!
>>
>> I gave Rick the frame and a Pantone chip so he could match the color. I
>> found four possible Pantone matches: 126, 132, 7557, and 7558. Of the four,
>> PMS 126 and 7558 appear to be the closest match in both shade and
>> direct sunlight, despite my iPhone camera’s claim to the contrary.
>>
>> Rick did a fantastic job. Rick absolutely nailed the color, he gave me
>> some leftover paint for touch-ups, and Rivendell picked up the tab.
>> Thanks to Vince & crew at Rivendell, and thanks to Rick for the terrific
>> work.
>>
>> I’ll rebuild her over the winter so she’s ready to ride in the spring.
>>
>>
>> [image: comparison_4682.jpg][image: forkcrown_4661.jpg][image:
>> forks_4660.jpg][image: forks_4663.jpg][image: pantone_4677.jpg][image:
>> touchup_4664.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

2022-10-21 Thread Keith Paugh

I kept double tapping, trying to “like.”

k.

> On Oct 21, 2022, at 7:48 AM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:
> 
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> 
> Because this thread needs some pictures. 
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:42:12 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>> Yes good discussion! Paul, it's neat and surprising to hear from another 
>> Knolly rider here of all places - I rode a Chilcotin (the older 26" version) 
>> for a bunch of years!  Sold it about a year ago and replaced it with an 
>> Esker Japhy steel hardtail as a bike that was more my style, but still 
>> capable of riding black / double black trails. I absolutely love the way a 
>> hardtail climbs, and rides in general - I do find I get fatigued quicker on 
>> it vs. the full suspension bike, but otherwise it's all good things - I can 
>> still ride everything I ought to be riding, but I'm tasked with a little 
>> more care in my line choices and when to elect to walk, which is healthy. 
>> I'm fully committed to the plan of picking up a Stooge mk6 when they come 
>> out next year to replace the Japhy, and put myself back in the realm of 
>> fully rigid steel bikes across the board. 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, 20 October 2022 at 15:24:26 UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I wonder about this exactly. If something works for someone I am the last 
>>> to question it. But, in my time off road with the Clem the long stem and 
>>> backsweep of the Bosco are GOLD! This position and the way it makes the 
>>> bike feel / handle are pretty much my only reason for considering a Susie. 
>>> I know it goes against everything that says “mountain bike” but I am 
>>> looking to get away from straight bars. Just today I swapped out a 12 
>>> degree backsweep bar for a 35 degree one. Feels better but does not feel as 
>>> good as the Clem.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Oct 20, 2022, at 6:01 PM, Mike Packard  wrote:
> 
 
>>> 
 I'm also enjoying this thread. One thing I've wondered about WRT Susie-Gus 
 vs. Clem: Is the reach / effective top tube shorter on Susie/Gus than Clem 
 of similar size? I have a 59 Clem L that is great but even with a very 
 short stem flat-ish bars are too far away. 
 
 mike
 
>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:39:49 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> Greetings all. First, does anyone recall reading in one of the updates 
>> about additional Susie / Gus bikes becoming available?
>> Second, who is using their Susie / Gus as their primary mountain bike?
>> Third, is anyone able to comments on a direct comparison between a Susie 
>> and a Clem L?
>> My Clem never ceases to amaze me. It is, without doubt the most 
>> comfortable bike I have ever owned. I am so ingrained to my position on 
>> the bike that I am now uncomfortable on my dedicated singletrack bike - 
>> a full suspension bike with relatively strait handlebars. The Clem is 
>> really good off road and on mild singletrack, but its weight and 
>> flexibility have kept me from giving it a go on some of the rowdy, rock 
>> and root strewn tracks I like to ride on the full squish bike.
>> Now, I have no illusions about any rigid bike being as plush and capable 
>> on these trails as the suspended bike. But I do have some experience 
>> riding a rigid bike with big tires (Jones 29") and I liked it. The 
>> notion of a bike that puts me in the exact same position as my Clem but 
>> dedicated to singletrack has me more than a little intrigued.
>> Appreciate any comments / thoughts.
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Fork Paint Options!

2022-10-07 Thread Keith Paugh

Whew! Had to take a minute after seeing that existing brown bike color! Took my 
breath away.

I vote for painting the fork to match, but if you need a change, that schwinn 
red would stop traffic. 

k.

> On Oct 7, 2022, at 1:12 PM, lconley  wrote:
> 
> My inner environmentalist says leave it two-tone, but I do like the red.
> 
> Compromise (and inner originalist) says just paint the fork to match the 
> existing.
> 
> I replaced the fork one one bike, but the bike and fork were both black - one 
> reason to own a black bike, many replacement forks are painted black.
> 
> Laing
> 
>> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 4:04:16 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>> My Appaloosa has a new blue fork! I’m now considering the options:
>> 
>> Leave the fork as-is so the bike is two-tone
>> Repaint the fork to match the existing frame color
>> Repaint the fork and the bike: either metallic red to match my old Schwinn, 
>> or a blue-gray gunmetal
>> If you’ve replaced a fork, what did you do? 
>> 
>> I thought you might like to see how those options might look:
>> 
>> Existing frame and fork:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Fork painted to match frame:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Schwinn red metallic:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Blue-gray gunmetal:
>> 
>> 
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