Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day: My Little Platy

2024-05-24 Thread Leah Peterson
So deep. I couldn’t stand putting a solid color on the spacer when I saw so many oil slick option in 1 1/4 inch. Sure enough, the BMXers came through with the 1 in for me.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 24, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Wesley  wrote:You know you're in deep when you're sourcing BMX parts to get the look right. It's funny how the bike world is almost completely separated between BMX and all other bikes - the brands, the language, and the parts standards apparently have almost no contact across the divide.-WesOn Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 3:51:53 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:IMO this ties with the other customized Platypus featured here recently for "nicest-looking Platypus in list history," and it probably wins the award for "most attention paid to aesthetics" in list history. Note: I think very many of the Rivs posted are lovely to look at.Me, as with Mitch, "I am a guy." I am fully OC about my bikes for parts and builds and design (I remember most of the parts from my first 1970 full build), but not aesthetics, and it's interesting to see how others' passions turn out.Cerakoting is new to me; had to Google it. I see it differs from anodizing, but, how exactly? Too bad webmeisters are generally better fancy web page design than conveying information -- this for global corporate websites as well as bike websites; the latter on the whole do better. I gather that anodizing is colored (or not) oxidizing while cerakoting is a --- coating.One of the early links that DDG turned up said: "Anodized versus Cerakote: Which is better for your AR15?"On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 9:56 AM Armand Kizirian  wrote:Looks super fun. Good to know Paul can anodize parts like that! Also interested to hear how the different size rides for you. Enjoy!



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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day: My Little Platy

2024-05-24 Thread Leah Peterson
Thank you all for indulging me! I suspected this to be a controversial bike and I was nervous to post it. But whether it’s your thing or not, you’ve been gracious. Cerakoting is supposed to be stronger than ano, but I don’t know too much else about it, Patrick. The bike is SO FUN. I got lost for 20 miles last night and didn’t want to come home. It feels very different than my other bikes with its smaller size, albatross bars, and chunky 48mm tires. It’s squirrely when I stand and pedal, and the Silver 2s are a learning curve. I’ve been messing with that wing nut, trying to decide how tight it should be. I had ghost shifting, which never happens to me on my other bikes.  Anyway, thanks again for all the remarks! You guys are good sports.LSent from my iPhoneOn May 24, 2024, at 3:45 PM, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:Like it Joe!Toshi in OaktownOn Fri, May 24, 2024 at 8:06 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:Right down to the bolts! An idea I totally stole from Leah, I bought her Clem and did the thing! 




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Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day: My Little Platy

2024-05-23 Thread Leah Peterson
Bill - I love the approval! I covet the approval! You can buy that net in an array of color combos on Analog’s website.Liz - YES.On May 23, 2024, at 12:56 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:I want that cargo net.  Where do I buy that cargo net?For everything else: APPROVE!Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 8:43:11 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Finally. New. Bike. Day.This bike was a long time coming. I bought the frame in November (November!) and have waited this long for the plethora of specialty parts to arrive.Purple is a fun color; it never takes itself too seriously. It goes with most other colors, which is what led me to choose…all the colors. The theme for this Platypus is: 80s My Little Pony. I call the bike My Little Platy. The bike is a 50cm Rivendell Platypus with 650b wheels; it can be taken on Amtrak and bus racks, which is something its 55cm siblings cannot do. I put fat tires on it so it can handle gravel. My Gravel & Travel Platy.I adored My Little Pony in my girlhood, and my favorite ponies had rainbow hair. Why settle for just pink or blue when some ponies had ALL the colors? I started out this build incorporating a color here or there. (I had my Paul brakes already cerakoted in blues.) But while looking for grips, I found Ergon oil slick clamps and had my revelation: I wanted oil slick everywhere I could get it. Because oil slick has ALL the colors.All the makers of these parts worked with me to make this bike happen. They sent their beautiful products to me and let me alter them in wild, saturated, living color. I don’t know if any of them understood why I was going all out like this. All of them were men, save one - the anodizer. You can see her work in the levers, chain rings, cranks, and bottom bracket. She understood the assignment. I live with 3 men and none of them give the bike their stamp of approval. The Lone Wolf will howl, alright. I remain steadfast in my adoration of this bike because it does something for me. Takes me back to my simple, happy 80s and 90s childhood. If when you were a little girl (most of your were not), your friend had a dress-up closet and you could choose from her lavish collection of finery to wear at playtime, and you just came out WEARING ALL OF IT, well, that is this Platypus.Thank you to everyone at Analog Cycles, Paul Components, Ignite Components, Ashley Anodized It, Velocity USA and Pedal Bicycles for making this silly concept a real, tangible bicycle. And of course, thank you to Rivendell Bicycle Works, who makes the best bikes in the world.Please find my video link below.Leahhttps://www.instagram.com/reel/C7S3y0AufkX/?igsh=ZTk5amhhaTR2anQ=



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Re: [RBW] Re: Love to Ride: Commuter Challenge

2024-05-18 Thread Leah Peterson
Brian, I had to tell Paul about this thread. He emailed me back and asked me to pass this along:Thanks very much, Leah. :-)  A small world indeed.  If possible, please reply to Brian with the following: I love the t-shirt and wear it A LOT.  Pam and I were in Lexington last fall when our "kids" were climbing at "The Red."  We stopped at Sixth Street Brewing for lunch and beers, saw the t-shirt, and knew I needed one.  The Broke Spoke was closed, so we couldn't visit there, but we did take in a very informative distillery tour (right next door) at Bluegrass Distillers.  We have very fond memories of our Kentucky trip, and the t-shirt is a wonderful memory jog.  Thanks, BrianCheers - PaulPaul SotherlandOn May 17, 2024, at 8:12 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:Thanks for sharing this, Leah! I was delighted to see that the Rivendell owner in the photos is wearing a t-shirt that I designed for the local brewery I do all the graphic design for (West Sixth Brewing in Lexington KY). The shirt says “Ride bikes, drink beer”, and features a simple illustration of the brewery’s Cetma cargo bakfiets that was custom built into a mobile bike bar with a beer tap on it! Small world!BrianLexington KY On May 17, 2024, at 8:01 AM, Ryan  wrote:That's brilliant Leah! If anyone csn sell people on riding bikes for daily activities, it's you! Good on ya!On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:18:49 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:My love for my new home state is well-documented. After 18 years of desert living, we moved to Michigan, where none of us Petersons had set foot prior to the job interview. I have finally found a biking community, right here in a state that has winter. Anyway, I got asked to be on a committee that would help launch a new initiative to get more people on bikes. There is a lot of lovely new infrastructure in downtown, and we are hoping to get people to use it to get to work/events/dining/shopping. We are using the app Love to Ride, which will allow people in the city and surrounding areas to sign up, join the challenge and compete against other people for a 2 week challenge in May. The city is eager to have the data that the heat maps will generate, showing where people are riding and where they are not. Hopefully this influences further infrastructure in the near future.Today there was a local news article, and one of the men I’m serving with is pictured with his RIVENDELL. Paul’s brother John Sotherland built the Rivendell frames at Waterford back in…whatever day that was. I almost never saw other Rivs in the other places I’ve lived, but Michigan has plenty of them.Here’s the article: https://www.secondwavemedia.com/southwest-michigan/features/Kalamazoo-Commuter-Challenge-encourage-new-cyclists.051624.aspxLeah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Love to Ride: Commuter Challenge

2024-05-17 Thread Leah Peterson
Ryan, oh thank you ☺️Brian, NO WAY. I’m going to tell him.Doug, it’s like social media for bikes. I haven’t gotten the hang of it yet, but I hope you love it.LOn May 17, 2024, at 8:12 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:Thanks for sharing this, Leah! I was delighted to see that the Rivendell owner in the photos is wearing a t-shirt that I designed for the local brewery I do all the graphic design for (West Sixth Brewing in Lexington KY). The shirt says “Ride bikes, drink beer”, and features a simple illustration of the brewery’s Cetma cargo bakfiets that was custom built into a mobile bike bar with a beer tap on it! Small world!BrianLexington KY On May 17, 2024, at 8:01 AM, Ryan  wrote:That's brilliant Leah! If anyone csn sell people on riding bikes for daily activities, it's you! Good on ya!On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:18:49 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:My love for my new home state is well-documented. After 18 years of desert living, we moved to Michigan, where none of us Petersons had set foot prior to the job interview. I have finally found a biking community, right here in a state that has winter. Anyway, I got asked to be on a committee that would help launch a new initiative to get more people on bikes. There is a lot of lovely new infrastructure in downtown, and we are hoping to get people to use it to get to work/events/dining/shopping. We are using the app Love to Ride, which will allow people in the city and surrounding areas to sign up, join the challenge and compete against other people for a 2 week challenge in May. The city is eager to have the data that the heat maps will generate, showing where people are riding and where they are not. Hopefully this influences further infrastructure in the near future.Today there was a local news article, and one of the men I’m serving with is pictured with his RIVENDELL. Paul’s brother John Sotherland built the Rivendell frames at Waterford back in…whatever day that was. I almost never saw other Rivs in the other places I’ve lived, but Michigan has plenty of them.Here’s the article: https://www.secondwavemedia.com/southwest-michigan/features/Kalamazoo-Commuter-Challenge-encourage-new-cyclists.051624.aspxLeah



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Re: [RBW] Re: For Leah re my Gallop

2024-05-13 Thread Leah Peterson
Dorothy, of COURSE I don’t know this, and thank you for stepping in and saving your RivSister. Thank you, thank you!LOn May 13, 2024, at 2:54 PM, Dorothy C  wrote:LeahJust a heads up if you find a used 700c Roadini hoping to swap parts to a new frame later, only the 2020 and later take long reach brakes. Before that the 47cm / 650b was long reach and the 700c sizes were medium reach. You might already know this.On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 11:53:24 AM UTC-7 Valerie Yates wrote:Leah- love it! When you buy used, you can pretty much break-even on the subsequent resale. It is just a matter of timing liquidity. And you could possibly transfer parts over to the new frame, if you like the set-up, and sell just the frame. Or decide that lugs aren't crucial. Many possible outcomes. Eager to see how it all plays out. Doug - love the grips. I saw that demo too but never tried it. Yours look terrific. Very striking and fun. Sarah - glad you enjoyed the pics.On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Valerie, I’m going to take your formula and apply it. I’m looking for the used 50 Roadini and if anyone sees one first ,will ya send it my way? And then maybe this fall I end up with the lugged and sell the TIG’d. I don’t know! It’s an adventure! I plan to be impulsive! Not money-savvy! A real handful! 朗 Join me,LeahOn Friday, May 10, 2024 at 6:50:30 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky smooth. Entirely comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San Marcos. Which is why I was able to let it go. I am so glad it is living its best life. Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you love it and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one doesn't turn up, order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your lugged one is pending, then it depends on price and timing.  On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 in...@brentknepper.com wrote:I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides on a road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! I was lucky to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as the befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth tires and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a surprise midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a rideanyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals and my bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™ seem confused about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike doesn't meet their expectations, the women and other folks always say how beautiful the Bleriot is, how the fenders are so smart in keeping my sandal'd feet clean while being helpful to whoever might be behind me, and how neat it is that I'm still fast "enough" to keep pace despite not having the roadie-culture promoted bike, shoes, or clothing :)Leah, I wish you the best on your road bike journey! I admire your commitment to Rivendells (an easy brand to commit to honestly), and hope a Roadeo comes along either at a good deal or with beautiful lugs to add to your hella colorful collection-Brent in chicagoOn Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This is SO fun. Diana, yes please post here as you make your observations/get your answers. Valerie, your bikes are so cool. Heck, YOU are so cool. Here you were, all this time, and you have so much to offer us here; I truly hope we get to hear from you regularly after this. Philip, I agree about the Roadini. I think Valerie’s photos were helpful (and yours of the updated model, too) and show the CHG to be less club-ridey than I was hoping for. That Roadeo looks like just the ticket, though. A Roadini should be a great choice. Now, do I wait for the lugged versions or hope for a 50 on the used market? So far there have been none to be found…LOn Friday, May 10, 2024 at 3:46:00 PM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:Me either!I’m team Roadini for Leah, for sure!All this talk has me jonesing for that very big red Road custom currently on offer at a very reasonable price…P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On May 10, 2024, at 12:37 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:Philip - Agreed! My observations on this version may be entirely irrelevant to the production version. Although, I will add that nothing in that picture says go-fast club rides to me. On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 1:29:35 PM UTC-6 philip@gmail.com wrote:Interesting how differently that Gallop looks, and presumably feels, compared to the larger, presumably production verison of the same bike, without the swoopy TT, currently at Riv:P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On May 10, 2024, at 12:23 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:Valerie - gorgeous trio of bikes, thank you for sharing. The three shown in that order makes it look like the Roadeo morphs into a Hillibike and the CHG is the intermediate stage, which is both funny and also indicative of its purpose 

Re: [RBW] Re: For Leah re my Gallop

2024-05-10 Thread Leah Peterson
Woah, that’s a pretty steep drop from Will’s saddle to bars for me! But it’s pretty.I look forward to your photos, Valerie, and how I wish I lived in your neighborhood so I could bring my saddle and try your bikes. When it all boils down, it’s this:I’m looking to see what it’s like to ride a stripped-down roadish Rivendell and see how that affects my performance on group rides. Rivendell offers 2 (not counting the hard-to-obtain Roadeo) road bikes in their lineup and I’m trying to differentiate between them and see which one is better for me. I hope they can make that clear in their product description when the time comes for them to launch the CHG. Meanwhile, we get to chat and speculate and evaluate here and it is loads of fun! Also, thank you again to everyone for sharing your wisdom with me. Keep it coming!LOn May 9, 2024, at 9:46 PM, P W  wrote:You know, as soon as I hit send, I thought: “It’s a Riv, I bet the tire clearance is actually massive!”For how a go-fast Riv roadie could and should look, what better source of inspiration than Will’s:See also:<441164476_1599207264208847_1445036392027071003_n.jpg>Calling in Sick Magazine on Instagram: "#bikecheck #willkeating @rivbike"Watch and share reels with friendsP. W.~(917) 514-2207~On May 9, 2024, at 6:06 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote: Also Philip - I have 700x50 tires on my Gallop, so it is not just for skinny tires. But all the rest fits with my impression. 



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Re: [RBW] Re: For Leah re my Gallop

2024-05-09 Thread Leah Peterson
Valerie, Interesting! What would make the Roadini more suited to go-fast road rides than the Gallop? What makes the Roadini more different in a fun way than the Gallop? I may be misunderstanding what the Gallop is; I had thought it was the new clubby bike Riv was advocating. I am so appreciative of your and everyone’s input. I have lots to learn and it is FUN.LOn May 9, 2024, at 8:24 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:If I wanted a drop bar bike to fit in with my club/fast friends, I would pick Roadini. The Gallop is a fun alternative in the line-up but I don't see it as a primary go-fast road bike. I think a Roadini will be more different in a fun way from the bikes you've had. And your friends' bikes likely have skinny tires and too-low bars that would make them a bad comparison. A gravel bike with drop bars might be a good option to try just for more comfortable geometry and tires. Long shot, but if you could find a used Soma San Marcos (designed by Riv and made by Soma), that bike feels super similar to my Roadeo. On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 5:52:54 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I know it, Jason. I should just ask a woman in my bike group but it feels like wearing someone else’s underwear. And actually, it’s not that far off. (Side story: Last year I picked up a woman whose flat we could not fix. I hoisted her bike onto my rack and immediately wanted to vomit. I had grabbed her saddle, some kind of foam thing, and it was SOAKED THROUGH, like a sponge.) Also, I don’t have clipless shoes, and every woman on my rides has those pedals.But ok, I thought about what you said and I REMEMBERED something. There’s a place in town I may be able to rent a drop bar bike in my size. I’ll report back tomorrow!I hadn’t thought about it being an Oct Roadini vs Nov Gallop. Are you surmising that if I go with drops I should go Roadini and Gallop for swept-back bars?LeahOn Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 6:41:29 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:I totally get not wanting to purchase a non-Rivendell, but it might be well worthwhile to borrow or rent a drop bar bike to try out - of course, it'll be disorienting, but should hopefully give you a sense of "I think I'd get used to this" versus "this is definitely not for me". The reason I say this is because it could be all the difference between choosing October's lugged Roadini versus November's Charlie H Gallop. I know that both bikes can run either, in theory, but in practice they are much more suited to one vs the other. On Thursday 9 May 2024 at 06:15:15 UTC-7 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote:I just built a lovely Homer that fills that riding gap, but I do plan to watch other people build theirs LEAH!On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 10:20:33 AM UTC-7 Valerie Yates wrote:Sarah - thanks! Are you thinking of getting one?On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 6:30:15 AM UTC-6 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote:Thank you for this Valerie, your post made my morning!SarahOn Monday, May 6, 2024 at 1:30:11 PM UTC-7 Valerie Yates wrote:Thanks for the kind words! I've been enjoying yours and Bill's and many others' posts for years but I only rarely chime-in. I have loved riding bikes since childhood, got my first drop-bars when I was 8 (the Schwinn Bicentennial 10 speed), and yet my club riding phase was also late (40-45) and very brief. I had just moved to Boulder, CO and the club rides were a great way to get to know popular, local routes. But I am introverted and group activities just aren't my scene. I have a few folks with whom I like to ride and, whenever I can, I sign up for a trip with HeartCycle.org. On the HC rides, everyone goes at their own pace. I enjoy the random camaraderie that occurs during the ride without any expectation of continuing to ride together. The club is based in Denver, started by doctors, has long-standing members from across the US, and offers trips across the US and Europe. Experienced riders, great routes, fully supported, non-profit, and not fancy. They welcome new members if that ever interests you or anyone else reading this. My understanding of the Roadini is based on the website: Roadini -  Functionally like a Roadeo, priced like a Clem.To me, the Roadeo feels absolutely plush, smooth, and elegant compared to the too small, too stiff, carbon-framed, low-barred, skinny-tired road bike I was persuaded to get when I moved to Boulder to fit in on rides with various clubs. That bike is long gone. The shorter wheel-base, stiffer tubing, and skinner tires of the Roadeo makes it much more taut and spare feeling than the Gallop. For me, the Roadeo is the ultimate, classic road bike for challenging myself on paved rides -- whether going fast or climbing on my own or riding with faster friends.   The long-length, fat-swoop tubing, and fatter-tire capability of the Gallop seems more like a lightweight, road-oriented Susie, to me. Less concern about potholes and road texture than on the Roadeo and more playful, all-day comfort. Since I haven't actually tried it on the rides I do with the 

Re: [RBW] Re: Lugged Roadini and Charlie H Gallup

2024-05-05 Thread Leah Peterson
Valerie, I would love to hear every single thing you say about this bike. Do you have sweepy bars? Drop bars? Have you ridden it on a club ride? Do you find it to be quick and lively? What was the reason you bought your Charlie? I don’t know why the lugged Roadini, either. Anyone know?LeahOn May 5, 2024, at 7:00 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:I just finished tweaking the set up on my 2022 Gallop demo - purple with swoop tube, non-canti version. It rides like a dream. Super silky and nimble. One mistake I had made was to install a heavy duty pannier rack on it. It made the bike feel very noodley. I was tempted to sell it. I think that's why this reviewer complained about its flex. He shows it with the same rack I initially had on it. When I switched to a top rack, since it was only being used for my tail light and lock, everything came together. Now, I love it for unloaded riding on rough and hilly local roads. I have a huge smile whenever I am riding it. So just chiming in with a note of caution in setting it up for its intended purpose. It is not meant as a loaded touring bike and, even without a load, a rack that is too stiff will impact its performance.  Can't wait to see the set-ups on the production models. On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 2:44:51 PM UTC-6 Johnny Alien wrote:I'm curious about the whole lugged Roadini thing now. The Susie I understand because its a cost/time of manufacture thing but in the case of the Roadini it basically is just upping the cost. Unless the feeling is that a lugged model will just sell better regardless of a higher price.On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:I saw the mention of the lugged Roadini. I am 99% certain I will order one once they become available. On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 3:17:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:"Your friend would be *more* thrilled if this bike was coming in July or something. Like, during riding season!"I concede that this would be better!On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 10:12:37 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Your friend would be *more* thrilled if this bike was coming in July or something. Like, during riding season!On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 12:22:45 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:Doug, My understanding (which may be wrong, my memory for stuff I read a while ago seems to have left me as I recently approached my 62nd birthday) is the CHG will also be lugged and probably not cheap. It will be longer-stayed than the Roadini. It's coming September! I know at least one friend of ours who will be thrilled with this news. Joe Bernard On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 9:04:26 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:Grant's most recent Blahg mentioned the frame schedule and the upcoming Lugged Roadini. It seems the Charlie H Gallup may replace the Roadini as the partially lugged more affordable road bike. I appreciate the cream colored head tubes and full lugs but I also really like my solid Mermaid Roadini so I don't feel like I'm missing out. Will the Charlie H Gallup be longer than the Roadini? If so, I do think it might work better for me but we shall see. For those waiting for the CHG, Grant lists them as coming in September.Doug



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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-24 Thread Leah Peterson
Yes, George, exactly. I was excited that such a nice frame was available but with the size being iffy, the whole bar/brake lever/cables/housing and the tires needing a swap I just didn’t feel confident this was the answer.On Apr 24, 2024, at 3:32 PM, George Schick  wrote:Heh.  After all of this back and forth discussion about drop bars and the various hand positions, it turns out to be set up much the same way as the bikes she already has with an upright riding position and regular bars.  'Course, this bike "could" be reconverted to a standard road bike without too much difficulty.  And it is, after all, a Romulus which a darn decent bike frame in the first place...but it's in Nashville which would require some disassembly to ship anyplace outside the central Tennessee area.On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 1:34:38 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m gonna pass on the Romulus, Piaw. But here’s the link if your wife is interested. Rivendell Romulus Bicycle 55cmfacebook.comBest,LeahOn Apr 23, 2024, at 3:55 PM, Piaw Na  wrote:The Romulus had a different geometry with a much misleading frame sizing. Here's the geometry: https://notfine.com/rivreader/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Romulus.pdfLooks like if you were 5' 10", that'll put you onto a 59cm Romulus. Unusual compared to today's Roadini sizing, but the Romulus also has a lower BB. I would buy it. If Leah doesn't want it let me know and I'd consider it for my wife who still wants a Roadini.On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 12:52 PM Mathias Steiner  wrote:>> 
So I found a 55 cm Romulus for $1250. What do we think of THAT?

We think that you need to find a geometry chart for the Romulus.The older AHH and Roadeo charts show 80.9 and 80.6 cm standover clearance, respectively, for the 55 cm size.That's awfully close to your stated PBH of 81 cm.cheers -mathiasOn Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 3:46:47 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:Sounds great, right in and around your PBH and SOH.  'Course, that all depends upon what kind of shape it's in, where it has to come from (shipped or local) therefore sight seen or unseen, etc. I'd say give it a shot - there aren't many of those Romulus models around and they're almost collectables.  Got a trustworthy LBS now that you can depend upon to give it a good going over and therefore a professional evaluation?Best winds!On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 2:33:00 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:So I found a 55 cm Romulus for $1250. What do we think of THAT?On Apr 23, 2024, at 3:02 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:Get an old one like a Rambouillet for true road-ability.  The early Rivs are the best if you are into club riding.  I love my Clem for being versatile but I have ridden over 20,000 Km of brevets on my 90s Riv Road Standard or custom, not sure which. I bought it used.  I have mine 650B converted, run 650Bx38 with the Tektro long, long reach brakes, 55-73 reach, IIRC.  There's several others in the forum that have theirs done this way as well.JimAustin, TX burbsOn Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 2:33 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-23 Thread Leah Peterson
It’s an honor to have the Bill Lindsay Rules bent for our delight here. We await. Bated breath, and all that jazz!On Apr 23, 2024, at 5:51 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:"Let’s both Rom-ride this summer! We could even do it in Michigan! "I need to grab a bike right now to head over to the dentist.  I'm going to break my own self-imposed rule and ride my Romulus on its first ride.  Pics will prove it.Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 1:02:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Let’s both Rom-ride this summer! We could even do it in Michigan! Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 23, 2024, at 3:46 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:I think that falls into Joe Bernard's recommendation of taking a flyer on a used Rivendell at decent price.  Love it if you can and sell it if you find you can't love it.  Go for it if you can stand over it. I bought a used 59cm Romulus this year, and built it but haven't ridden it, because of my weird self-imposed mileage quota system.  But I will be Rom-riding this summer!BL in ECOn Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 12:33:00 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:So I found a 55 cm Romulus for $1250. What do we think of THAT?On Apr 23, 2024, at 3:02 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:Get an old one like a Rambouillet for true road-ability.  The early Rivs are the best if you are into club riding.  I love my Clem for being versatile but I have ridden over 20,000 Km of brevets on my 90s Riv Road Standard or custom, not sure which. I bought it used.  I have mine 650B converted, run 650Bx38 with the Tektro long, long reach brakes, 55-73 reach, IIRC.  There's several others in the forum that have theirs done this way as well.JimAustin, TX burbsOn Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 2:33 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-23 Thread Leah Peterson
No worries, I just want a 32 or so. I am too scared of the 28s that are on there. This is a LOT of change for me. Drop bars, new shifting, diamond frame, true road bike…I can’t ride 28s.The guy has one other interested party who wanted to see the bike Friday. He made no promise to hold it, but he has not yet said he’ll sell the Romulus to me. So, we wait.On Apr 23, 2024, at 5:42 PM, Ted Durant  wrote:On Apr 23, 2024, at 4:22 PM, Corwin Zechar  wrote:Nothing wrong with riding wider tires.+1. 32mm are the skinniest I have now, on my Riv Road, Heron Road, and Waterford ST-22. I wouldn’t think twice about those tires on a group road ride, other than to think how fast and comfy they are.Ted DurantMilwaukee, WI USA



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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-23 Thread Leah Peterson
…which would give me room for that larger tire!Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 23, 2024, at 4:09 PM, George Schick  wrote:Hmm... according to a geometry chart for the Romulus http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/romflyer/04.html a 55cm Rom should have a "typical  PBH" of between 79-80 and a 57cm for those with PBH's of 81-83.  So...disagreeing as I do with Grant about "going larger is better" on frame size, I'd say that this bike would be perfect.On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 2:55:13 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:The Romulus had a different geometry with a much misleading frame sizing. Here's the geometry: https://notfine.com/rivreader/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Romulus.pdfLooks like if you were 5' 10", that'll put you onto a 59cm Romulus. Unusual compared to today's Roadini sizing, but the Romulus also has a lower BB. I would buy it. If Leah doesn't want it let me know and I'd consider it for my wife who still wants a Roadini.On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 12:52 PM Mathias Steiner  wrote:>> 
So I found a 55 cm Romulus for $1250. What do we think of THAT?

We think that you need to find a geometry chart for the Romulus.The older AHH and Roadeo charts show 80.9 and 80.6 cm standover clearance, respectively, for the 55 cm size.That's awfully close to your stated PBH of 81 cm.cheers -mathiasOn Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 3:46:47 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:Sounds great, right in and around your PBH and SOH.  'Course, that all depends upon what kind of shape it's in, where it has to come from (shipped or local) therefore sight seen or unseen, etc. I'd say give it a shot - there aren't many of those Romulus models around and they're almost collectables.  Got a trustworthy LBS now that you can depend upon to give it a good going over and therefore a professional evaluation?Best winds!On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 2:33:00 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:So I found a 55 cm Romulus for $1250. What do we think of THAT?On Apr 23, 2024, at 3:02 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:Get an old one like a Rambouillet for true road-ability.  The early Rivs are the best if you are into club riding.  I love my Clem for being versatile but I have ridden over 20,000 Km of brevets on my 90s Riv Road Standard or custom, not sure which. I bought it used.  I have mine 650B converted, run 650Bx38 with the Tektro long, long reach brakes, 55-73 reach, IIRC.  There's several others in the forum that have theirs done this way as well.JimAustin, TX burbsOn Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 2:33 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-23 Thread Leah Peterson
I will let you know, Piaw. If it doesn’t work for me I hope it can work for your wife.Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 23, 2024, at 3:55 PM, Piaw Na  wrote:The Romulus had a different geometry with a much misleading frame sizing. Here's the geometry: https://notfine.com/rivreader/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Romulus.pdfLooks like if you were 5' 10", that'll put you onto a 59cm Romulus. Unusual compared to today's Roadini sizing, but the Romulus also has a lower BB. I would buy it. If Leah doesn't want it let me know and I'd consider it for my wife who still wants a Roadini.On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 12:52 PM Mathias Steiner  wrote:>> 
So I found a 55 cm Romulus for $1250. What do we think of THAT?

We think that you need to find a geometry chart for the Romulus.The older AHH and Roadeo charts show 80.9 and 80.6 cm standover clearance, respectively, for the 55 cm size.That's awfully close to your stated PBH of 81 cm.cheers -mathiasOn Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 3:46:47 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:Sounds great, right in and around your PBH and SOH.  'Course, that all depends upon what kind of shape it's in, where it has to come from (shipped or local) therefore sight seen or unseen, etc. I'd say give it a shot - there aren't many of those Romulus models around and they're almost collectables.  Got a trustworthy LBS now that you can depend upon to give it a good going over and therefore a professional evaluation?Best winds!On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 2:33:00 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:So I found a 55 cm Romulus for $1250. What do we think of THAT?On Apr 23, 2024, at 3:02 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:Get an old one like a Rambouillet for true road-ability.  The early Rivs are the best if you are into club riding.  I love my Clem for being versatile but I have ridden over 20,000 Km of brevets on my 90s Riv Road Standard or custom, not sure which. I bought it used.  I have mine 650B converted, run 650Bx38 with the Tektro long, long reach brakes, 55-73 reach, IIRC.  There's several others in the forum that have theirs done this way as well.JimAustin, TX burbsOn Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 2:33 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-23 Thread Leah Peterson
Let’s both Rom-ride this summer! We could even do it in Michigan! Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 23, 2024, at 3:46 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:I think that falls into Joe Bernard's recommendation of taking a flyer on a used Rivendell at decent price.  Love it if you can and sell it if you find you can't love it.  Go for it if you can stand over it. I bought a used 59cm Romulus this year, and built it but haven't ridden it, because of my weird self-imposed mileage quota system.  But I will be Rom-riding this summer!BL in ECOn Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 12:33:00 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:So I found a 55 cm Romulus for $1250. What do we think of THAT?On Apr 23, 2024, at 3:02 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:Get an old one like a Rambouillet for true road-ability.  The early Rivs are the best if you are into club riding.  I love my Clem for being versatile but I have ridden over 20,000 Km of brevets on my 90s Riv Road Standard or custom, not sure which. I bought it used.  I have mine 650B converted, run 650Bx38 with the Tektro long, long reach brakes, 55-73 reach, IIRC.  There's several others in the forum that have theirs done this way as well.JimAustin, TX burbsOn Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 2:33 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-23 Thread Leah Peterson
It’s only got under 1k miles. Was someone’s wife’s and is in “excellent” condition. Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 23, 2024, at 3:46 PM, George Schick  wrote:Sounds great, right in and around your PBH and SOH.  'Course, that all depends upon what kind of shape it's in, where it has to come from (shipped or local) therefore sight seen or unseen, etc. I'd say give it a shot - there aren't many of those Romulus models around and they're almost collectables.  Got a trustworthy LBS now that you can depend upon to give it a good going over and therefore a professional evaluation?Best winds!On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 2:33:00 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:So I found a 55 cm Romulus for $1250. What do we think of THAT?On Apr 23, 2024, at 3:02 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:Get an old one like a Rambouillet for true road-ability.  The early Rivs are the best if you are into club riding.  I love my Clem for being versatile but I have ridden over 20,000 Km of brevets on my 90s Riv Road Standard or custom, not sure which. I bought it used.  I have mine 650B converted, run 650Bx38 with the Tektro long, long reach brakes, 55-73 reach, IIRC.  There's several others in the forum that have theirs done this way as well.JimAustin, TX burbsOn Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 2:33 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-23 Thread Leah Peterson
So I found a 55 cm Romulus for $1250. What do we think of THAT?On Apr 23, 2024, at 3:02 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:Get an old one like a Rambouillet for true road-ability.  The early Rivs are the best if you are into club riding.  I love my Clem for being versatile but I have ridden over 20,000 Km of brevets on my 90s Riv Road Standard or custom, not sure which. I bought it used.  I have mine 650B converted, run 650Bx38 with the Tektro long, long reach brakes, 55-73 reach, IIRC.  There's several others in the forum that have theirs done this way as well.JimAustin, TX burbsOn Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 2:33 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-22 Thread Leah Peterson
My husband just now: Are you getting ANOTHER bike? Me: Well…not necessarily. I have to weigh out all the pros and cons, you see.Him: I know how this ends. It ends with the Annual Bike Purchase of the Last Bike I’ll Ever Need.Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 22, 2024, at 9:26 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:Tony, I swooned. Actually swooned. Gorgeous, gorgeous.I rode the Mon Night Ride on my Racing Platy tonight. I was so apprehensive at the start because the winds were 13 mph with 21 mph gusts and it was open road. I should not be doing this, I thought. Where is my road bike?But it was the best ride. Did we have wind? Yes. But somehow it was great and energizing and we just killed it. I had done an intense upper body lifting session this morning and still it was great and not draining!Can I prove that to you?No. My Apple Watch died on the ride.  郎 There were men I don’t know on the ride tonight, so of course I got comments. One of them said, “I hope you never get a road bike.”But I just might.LeahSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 22, 2024, at 8:41 PM, Tony Lockhart  wrote:@Leah--Get one of these3x8 drivetrain, Nitto and Silver everywhere. Add a few bags and spend your weekends putting down mileageguaranteed to give you a million smiles and zero worries.On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 5:17:47 PM UTC-7 mathiass...@gmail.com wrote:Leah,Don't overthink this. It's hard to build an actual "bad" bike, and the big names don't do it.There are bike that are too "special" in some way -- too slow- or fast-handling, or whatever, but these are nuances. I can switch from a crit-geometry racer to a tourer and by the end of the block, I stop noticing it.Check out this ad:https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/bid/d/grand-rapids-bike-sale-40-or-less/7731072255.htmland go buy the ~51-52 cm red Centurion in the first picture.For $40, you'll have something to play with and see how the setup might work for you.If it's rideable, it's hard to see how this is not a good idea, and if Centurion built lousy bikes, I haven't heard of it.cheers -mathiasOn Monday, April 22, 2024 at 7:35:58 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:When you "cut to the chase" many of us old farts on this blog started riding bikes in a serious way back in the early 70's.  And the go-to manual for bikers back then was Eugene Sloane's "The Complete Book of Bicycling."  In that excellent instruction manual, as it were, he went to a great extent to appeal to the use of "drop bars" (or simply road bars by most folks back then) for road riders.  Of course, many different developments in cycling have taken place since then, especially the introduction of the so-called "hybrid bikes" with flat bars and the "mountain bikes," both of which introduced different types of handlebars, tire types, and saddles.  It's a bit of a lament that the regular "road bike" of the previous decades where "drop bars," saddle types, gearing, tires, etc. of the previous period more or less disappeared in the advent of those unique biking configurations.  Almost every time I venture out on a bike path around these parts I mostly see people riding bikes configured with a "hybrid" set up...unless, of course they're riding  e-bikes, which are becoming way too commonplace nowadays.  I would encourage anyone who has an inclination to pick up and begin riding regular road bikes to do so.On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 1:16:35 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:All of these replies are interesting. And when I read one I think, “Yes, that’s right” and then read another which conflicts and change my mind. This is going to be a journey. I can’t even believe how much there is to know.I’m later getting here than the rest of you, I think. It was 2012 when I first realized there were better bikes than the Walmart Schwinn I was pulling my preschoolers around with. I got a Betty Foy with the biggest racks and baskets money could buy and away we went. So happy! Still knowing nothing! Now those boys are in high school, and I live in a vibrant bike community and suddenly it’s a whole new world for me. Every riding season I end up learning and being stretched. I’m doing new kinds of rides, meeting lots of people, volunteering on bike committees, and venturing a lot further from home. 5 years ago I would never have believed I’d ride a metric century or enjoy club riding. This is all wonderful, but I’m hamstrung by my lack of experience. I always thought drop bars would have to be uncomfortable. It wasn’t until this thread that I even considered trying them. Are they a rite of passage? “Oh, you’ll never use them forever but just scratch the itch now so you can say you have.” Or are they the gold standard “They’ve been used for 100 years for good reason.” I worry I’m too late to start using them after all this time on albatross and Billies. I have to look up what “on the ramps” means. I don’t know what the “right” geometry is for a road b

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-22 Thread Leah Peterson
Tony, I swooned. Actually swooned. Gorgeous, gorgeous.I rode the Mon Night Ride on my Racing Platy tonight. I was so apprehensive at the start because the winds were 13 mph with 21 mph gusts and it was open road. I should not be doing this, I thought. Where is my road bike?But it was the best ride. Did we have wind? Yes. But somehow it was great and energizing and we just killed it. I had done an intense upper body lifting session this morning and still it was great and not draining!Can I prove that to you?No. My Apple Watch died on the ride.  郎 There were men I don’t know on the ride tonight, so of course I got comments. One of them said, “I hope you never get a road bike.”But I just might.LeahSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 22, 2024, at 8:41 PM, Tony Lockhart  wrote:@Leah--Get one of these3x8 drivetrain, Nitto and Silver everywhere. Add a few bags and spend your weekends putting down mileageguaranteed to give you a million smiles and zero worries.On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 5:17:47 PM UTC-7 mathiass...@gmail.com wrote:Leah,Don't overthink this. It's hard to build an actual "bad" bike, and the big names don't do it.There are bike that are too "special" in some way -- too slow- or fast-handling, or whatever, but these are nuances. I can switch from a crit-geometry racer to a tourer and by the end of the block, I stop noticing it.Check out this ad:https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/bid/d/grand-rapids-bike-sale-40-or-less/7731072255.htmland go buy the ~51-52 cm red Centurion in the first picture.For $40, you'll have something to play with and see how the setup might work for you.If it's rideable, it's hard to see how this is not a good idea, and if Centurion built lousy bikes, I haven't heard of it.cheers -mathiasOn Monday, April 22, 2024 at 7:35:58 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:When you "cut to the chase" many of us old farts on this blog started riding bikes in a serious way back in the early 70's.  And the go-to manual for bikers back then was Eugene Sloane's "The Complete Book of Bicycling."  In that excellent instruction manual, as it were, he went to a great extent to appeal to the use of "drop bars" (or simply road bars by most folks back then) for road riders.  Of course, many different developments in cycling have taken place since then, especially the introduction of the so-called "hybrid bikes" with flat bars and the "mountain bikes," both of which introduced different types of handlebars, tire types, and saddles.  It's a bit of a lament that the regular "road bike" of the previous decades where "drop bars," saddle types, gearing, tires, etc. of the previous period more or less disappeared in the advent of those unique biking configurations.  Almost every time I venture out on a bike path around these parts I mostly see people riding bikes configured with a "hybrid" set up...unless, of course they're riding  e-bikes, which are becoming way too commonplace nowadays.  I would encourage anyone who has an inclination to pick up and begin riding regular road bikes to do so.On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 1:16:35 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:All of these replies are interesting. And when I read one I think, “Yes, that’s right” and then read another which conflicts and change my mind. This is going to be a journey. I can’t even believe how much there is to know.I’m later getting here than the rest of you, I think. It was 2012 when I first realized there were better bikes than the Walmart Schwinn I was pulling my preschoolers around with. I got a Betty Foy with the biggest racks and baskets money could buy and away we went. So happy! Still knowing nothing! Now those boys are in high school, and I live in a vibrant bike community and suddenly it’s a whole new world for me. Every riding season I end up learning and being stretched. I’m doing new kinds of rides, meeting lots of people, volunteering on bike committees, and venturing a lot further from home. 5 years ago I would never have believed I’d ride a metric century or enjoy club riding. This is all wonderful, but I’m hamstrung by my lack of experience. I always thought drop bars would have to be uncomfortable. It wasn’t until this thread that I even considered trying them. Are they a rite of passage? “Oh, you’ll never use them forever but just scratch the itch now so you can say you have.” Or are they the gold standard “They’ve been used for 100 years for good reason.” I worry I’m too late to start using them after all this time on albatross and Billies. I have to look up what “on the ramps” means. I don’t know what the “right” geometry is for a road bike belonging to a devoted Rivendell rider would be. I dread being uncomfortable. I fear screwing up with the new drop bars and crashing in a peloton. I have no idea what shifters I’d put on drop bars. I thought albastache might be a good compromise but heard they aren’t wrist-neutral and then that they are. So.Much.To.Know. But everything I do now scares me, so let’s go.Keep your replies 

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-21 Thread Leah Peterson
I promise not to be offended by a great wave of advice coming my way here - I have asked for it and you all have kindly delivered. Ok, ok….I really will consider drop bars. But I do wonder…everyone says they offer so many hand positions; but I only see people with their hands on the hoods. Are riders really utilizing different hand positions? Also, I saw a pic of an albastache with brake levers in the middle of the bar. Would this mimic the freedom of hand position changes a drop bar offers? I practiced tonight on my ride by grabbing the front of my Billie bars. It felt nice to be stretched out like that, but with no access to brakes or shifters from there I didn’t like to stay long. Unnerving.Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 21, 2024, at 4:54 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:This is going to be a fun thread. Please don't take a great volume of advice as condescending; I think that this thread will elicit a very large amount of love for road bikes as a distinct genus of bicycle.I think you very particularly will benefit a great deal from the right road bike and that once you get things basically sorted you will find that you enjoy it immensely for the kind of riding you describe. There is a perfection of fit and feel and a real pleasure in riding a well set up traditional road bike -- I don't mean racing bike -- that you don't find with other combinations of frame, saddle, bar, and their relative positions. Really, this sort of setup on the right sort of frame is more comfortable, more natural, more pleasant for energetic riding than other setups; at least, I've always found it so, and there's a reason why the traditional road bike was developed so quickly after the chain-driven safety was invented and why it has remained largely the same for going on for 150 years.Note: I don't say that everyone who rides energetically should have a road bike, but everyone who does so and can try ought at least to give one a try. Again, there is an efficiency and comfort -- really, a "fit" like that of a custom suit or perfect tool -- offered by an intelligently spec'd and set up road bike that, you don't -- or at least, I don't, -- get with any other sort of bike.Me, based on my experience, I'd certainly start by keeping my eye out for a used Roadeo or Riv Road or LongLow or Ram or Heron. But for the final and perfect version, I'd not close my mind a priori to other makes. I am guessing, but I would not be surprised if, after your usual rapid learning cycle, this time with a road bike, you end up with a custom. My favorite bike of all time out of several scores is a custom Riv Road, but I've owned 2 other Riv Road customs plus a Ram (and the Sam) not to mention many other road bikes, and I've sold them all on to finally get what for me is belated perfection in the 2 Matthews customs  -- tho' these used the Rivs as general design templates.I rode the gofast Riv fixie road bike to and from church today with the usual annoying NE winds while inbound N and E and the usual SW winds on return N and W. For the umpteen millionth time I remarked to myself at how pleasant it was to be able to drop "intuitively" into the hooks when turning into a wind, or to grab the long (Maes Parallel) ramps when pushing, butt-back and elbows bent, up an incline, or sitting up and holding the flats or the flat/ramp transition and spinning when the wind became a tailwind. I've certainly passed my speed demon days, but there remains a very distinct pleasure in riding energetically -- for me, particularly on hills and against winds -- on the perfectly set up road bike, and I have enough experience to know that I would not enjoy this nearly as much on anything else.Bon chance!On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 1:33 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-21 Thread Leah Peterson
I am headed out to ride but I want to pop on here because I think it’s funny - can we do funny on here? - that I said I was “roadbike curious” and my texts, DMs, email all blew up. BUY THIS ONE! WHAT ABOUT THIS? Web special! eBay link! Bike people are the best and the fun-est people.I am, right now, leaning toward a Gallup bike but will keep reading and learning. And right now, I’m heading out to do Tabatas training. I had to look it up. Promises to be the most miserable 4 minutes of my day. You all carry on. I’ll be back later!Thanks for being so great.LeahOn Apr 21, 2024, at 1:10 PM, Andrew Joseph  wrote:Johnny, Any comparison of your Gallop proto to the Roadini that I may have missed? If not, could you give us your impressions?  New here…Roman mentioned the Gallop might land somewhere between the Homer and the Roadini.  V/R,DrewSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 20, 2024, at 6:56 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:Probably a bit of a wait for a Gallop but the slightly lower top tube could give it an edge over standard road frames. I have the swoopy prototype and if it rides the same people are going to love it.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 7:23:36 PM UTC-4 bei...@gmail.com wrote:Leah I was psyched to see this post because you were the #1 influence on me to get a Platypus (besides Lance who sold it to me! Thanks, Lance!). Besides the Platy, which is for around town and gravel and kid-hauling, I also ride my father-in-laws 1990-something Merlin road bike in occasional club rides and races. I love the Platy for all the already mentioned reasons in this Bunch, and love the snappy, fast, titanium Merlin, but always wish the fork was a bit heavier (and not carbon) and that the chainstays were a hair longer (and didn’t limit the rear tire to 25mm). I almost jumped on a used Roadeo in my size a month or so ago and am extremely Roadini curious. I wonder if you say the roadini “doesn’t offer enough of a change” for you because you think it’s not different enough from the Platy? I would think the Roadini is closer to the Roadeo or a Rambouillet than the Gallop will be. From the August 2023 blahg, the Gallop looks like a mix between a Platy and a Roadini. when I see that Homer Jim shared in your size as a web special my first thought was, “THAT’S IT!,” but I think you should give a ”real” “road bike” a shot rather than a “country bike” like a Sam or a Homer, since your Platy’s are in that category. Thanks for your contributions Leah and have fun finding your next “Save me from the wind on club rides!” Bike! ChristianBoulder, COPS: Gallop pics in this blagh:https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/august?_pos=11&_sid=e1163b89a&_ss=rOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:58:44 PM UTC-6 Jim M. wrote:I think the Roadeo is the raciest road bike Riv has made. I've seen one 56cm that was built up to 18.5 lbs with pedals. But if you're looking beyond the weight weenie category, there are lots of other options. Rambouillet, Redwood, and Romulus come to mind. And if you're not fixed on 700 wheels, you've got the Hilsen, Saluki, and Bleriot. I had a road wheelset for my Legolas, which I used for club rides and randonneuring. I wouldn't hesitate to put drop bars on my Bleriot and turn it into a randonneur too. And how could I forget the Hillborne? Also very roadable. There's a 51 dropbar Homer on the web special page https://www.rivbike.com/products/51cm-homer-dark-gold-antonios-dropbar-pick if that's your size.jim mwalnut creek caOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Leah Peterson
Would they love it as a road bike? Or is it kind of all-purpose? Thanks!On Apr 20, 2024, at 7:56 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:Probably a bit of a wait for a Gallop but the slightly lower top tube could give it an edge over standard road frames. I have the swoopy prototype and if it rides the same people are going to love it.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 7:23:36 PM UTC-4 bei...@gmail.com wrote:Leah I was psyched to see this post because you were the #1 influence on me to get a Platypus (besides Lance who sold it to me! Thanks, Lance!). Besides the Platy, which is for around town and gravel and kid-hauling, I also ride my father-in-laws 1990-something Merlin road bike in occasional club rides and races. I love the Platy for all the already mentioned reasons in this Bunch, and love the snappy, fast, titanium Merlin, but always wish the fork was a bit heavier (and not carbon) and that the chainstays were a hair longer (and didn’t limit the rear tire to 25mm). I almost jumped on a used Roadeo in my size a month or so ago and am extremely Roadini curious. I wonder if you say the roadini “doesn’t offer enough of a change” for you because you think it’s not different enough from the Platy? I would think the Roadini is closer to the Roadeo or a Rambouillet than the Gallop will be. From the August 2023 blahg, the Gallop looks like a mix between a Platy and a Roadini. when I see that Homer Jim shared in your size as a web special my first thought was, “THAT’S IT!,” but I think you should give a ”real” “road bike” a shot rather than a “country bike” like a Sam or a Homer, since your Platy’s are in that category. Thanks for your contributions Leah and have fun finding your next “Save me from the wind on club rides!” Bike! ChristianBoulder, COPS: Gallop pics in this blagh:https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/august?_pos=11&_sid=e1163b89a&_ss=rOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:58:44 PM UTC-6 Jim M. wrote:I think the Roadeo is the raciest road bike Riv has made. I've seen one 56cm that was built up to 18.5 lbs with pedals. But if you're looking beyond the weight weenie category, there are lots of other options. Rambouillet, Redwood, and Romulus come to mind. And if you're not fixed on 700 wheels, you've got the Hilsen, Saluki, and Bleriot. I had a road wheelset for my Legolas, which I used for club rides and randonneuring. I wouldn't hesitate to put drop bars on my Bleriot and turn it into a randonneur too. And how could I forget the Hillborne? Also very roadable. There's a 51 dropbar Homer on the web special page https://www.rivbike.com/products/51cm-homer-dark-gold-antonios-dropbar-pick if that's your size.jim mwalnut creek caOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Leah Peterson
Christian! Yes, I well remember you and I’m so happy you got that Platypus. Still my favorite bike of all time. Gosh, I would have loved your opinion had you gotten the Roadeo. You asked why I wasn’t keen on the Roadini. I read a couple of reviews online that didn’t give it the most favorable reviews. And some of the descriptions I read (of course the exact words escape me as this was all hastily done early today) made it sound like kind of an all-rounder or something. Like it wasn’t painted as a pure roadbike but more of a bike that was roadish but had town and country capabilities. If the Roadini owners think I got this wrong and want to chime in, wonderful; I’d like to hear it. And I think you would, too. And you’re exactly right about the Homer; I have two RivSisters who LOVE their Homers and rightly so. But I want to look at more of a road bike instead of the country bike. Obviously, I have much to learn.On Apr 20, 2024, at 7:23 PM, Christian B-H  wrote:Leah I was psyched to see this post because you were the #1 influence on me to get a Platypus (besides Lance who sold it to me! Thanks, Lance!). Besides the Platy, which is for around town and gravel and kid-hauling, I also ride my father-in-laws 1990-something Merlin road bike in occasional club rides and races. I love the Platy for all the already mentioned reasons in this Bunch, and love the snappy, fast, titanium Merlin, but always wish the fork was a bit heavier (and not carbon) and that the chainstays were a hair longer (and didn’t limit the rear tire to 25mm). I almost jumped on a used Roadeo in my size a month or so ago and am extremely Roadini curious. I wonder if you say the roadini “doesn’t offer enough of a change” for you because you think it’s not different enough from the Platy? I would think the Roadini is closer to the Roadeo or a Rambouillet than the Gallop will be. From the August 2023 blahg, the Gallop looks like a mix between a Platy and a Roadini. when I see that Homer Jim shared in your size as a web special my first thought was, “THAT’S IT!,” but I think you should give a ”real” “road bike” a shot rather than a “country bike” like a Sam or a Homer, since your Platy’s are in that category. Thanks for your contributions Leah and have fun finding your next “Save me from the wind on club rides!” Bike! ChristianBoulder, COPS: Gallop pics in this blagh:https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/august?_pos=11&_sid=e1163b89a&_ss=rOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:58:44 PM UTC-6 Jim M. wrote:I think the Roadeo is the raciest road bike Riv has made. I've seen one 56cm that was built up to 18.5 lbs with pedals. But if you're looking beyond the weight weenie category, there are lots of other options. Rambouillet, Redwood, and Romulus come to mind. And if you're not fixed on 700 wheels, you've got the Hilsen, Saluki, and Bleriot. I had a road wheelset for my Legolas, which I used for club rides and randonneuring. I wouldn't hesitate to put drop bars on my Bleriot and turn it into a randonneur too. And how could I forget the Hillborne? Also very roadable. There's a 51 dropbar Homer on the web special page https://www.rivbike.com/products/51cm-homer-dark-gold-antonios-dropbar-pick if that's your size.jim mwalnut creek caOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Leah Peterson
No idea what my stand over height is, nor do I know how to find outOn Apr 20, 2024, at 5:18 PM, George Schick  wrote:Actually, what I was more interested in was her stand over height (SOH).  Riding a regular road frame bike would require whether or not one could "stand over" the bike's top tube without discomfort.  Riv gives the specifics for various past models for this measurement.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:12:07 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:Ryan - sorry.  I don't always see things as clearly with my aged ready-for-cataract surgery eyeballs.  Nevertheless, it bears repeating.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:81 PBH was mentionedOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and you won't go wrong!On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:LeahMy previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  After selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c randonneuse.  Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The newer batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your personal shopper.  :)Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and then you'll have both!  Do let me know if you want more adviceBill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Leah Peterson
Yes, George, 81cm , and here’s where I have to put a plug in for the cataract surgery. I prep those patients and they are my favorite surgeries because they are SO EASY and the results SO immediate that if you have been putting it off, run, don’t walk to the ophthalmologist. An IV is not required, you don’t even get undressed, there is no pain, it is 15 minutes and BOOM, you’re done.Ok, back to bikes…On Apr 20, 2024, at 5:12 PM, George Schick  wrote:Ryan - sorry.  I don't always see things as clearly with my aged ready-for-cataract surgery eyeballs.  Nevertheless, it bears repeating.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:81 PBH was mentionedOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and you won't go wrong!On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:LeahMy previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  After selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c randonneuse.  Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The newer batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your personal shopper.  :)Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and then you'll have both!  Do let me know if you want more adviceBill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Leah Peterson
Bill, I think I would love an albastache build. I ALSO like the idea of you being my personal shopper. I think I’m pretty biased to staying with Riv; I can’t be hurting Grant’s feelings, you know. But I love this Michigan connection! If we did get a road bike and you got all kinds of say-so in the build then you would for sure have to say APPROVE when I post it on the List. Very gratifying, indeed.On Apr 20, 2024, at 4:52 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:LeahMy previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  After selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c randonneuse.  Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The newer batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".  I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your personal shopper.  :)Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and then you'll have both!  Do let me know if you want more adviceBill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

2024-04-19 Thread Leah Peterson
Of course you should give this thread a bump! It looks wonderful. I hope you find it completely comfortable now. I rode mine in a nasty wind today for 26 miles with the women in my bike club. I can’t say I recommend it for that, but it did the job. Can you tell us more about why the new stem/bar is a pleasant change? Interesting!LeahOn Apr 19, 2024, at 3:43 PM, tio ryan  wrote:Hope it's okay to give this thread a bump! I wanted to share how my setup has evolved over the past couple months. Although the previous setup was comfortable, I was experiencing fender rub through turns and it drove me crazy, so I removed the fenders. My thinking was I already have fenders on my other 2 bikes and I'd prefer not to commute in the rain with my Platypus, if possible. After removing the fenders, I changed the pedals. The sw taco pedals were much bigger than I needed and they were getting in the way with the low bb on this bike. I switched the pedals out for sw tiny bubbly pedals I was using on my Kuwahara. I also swapped the b17 for a regal I scored off this list from Julian. For aesthetics, I polished the seat post and shellacked the chainstay protector. From the beginning I knew I wanted a rear rack, so I finally ordered a shiny rear rack from Riv. It's getting warmer here and I'll soon need to switch over to a pannier for my daily commute. I wanted the cockpit to be more sporty, so I ordered a 60mm Nitto 90-190 stem and Ahearne Map bars which did the trick splendidly. It's such a pleasant change from the tosco/tallux combo the bike came with. Finally, I removed the basket from the campee rack as I no longer had a need for it on this bike. Here's how my Platypus is looking now:I'll add the ferrule back to the derailer cable once I settle on the thumb shifter. It's a suntour power ratchet for now. On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 9:25:45 AM UTC-5 tio ryan wrote:Thrilled to be part of the Riv family! I just commuted to work on my Platy and was smiling ear to ear the entire way. I even got a friendly ding-ding from a fellow Riv rider traveling in the opposite direction (I've seen a few others here in Brooklyn over the years). I'm sure more changes will come with time, I'm curious to see myself how it'll look in a year or two. In the near future, I know I'd like to add a rear rack, or maybe a bag. Steve, that's exactly what it is! I'm not even sure who makes this particular one, but it had been strapped to my old man's Hardrock since the early 90s. It's quite nice inverted on a step-thru since the underside of the bag has a reinforced/padded strap that's very comfortable to sit on, or to rest your feet. It also doesn't hurt that it can fit some tools as I'm still dialing in my saddle/bar heights & angles. It was this Blue Lug/Riv video where I saw one on Roman's bike and copied the idea. It's fantastic.-tioOn Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 7:22:41 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:Tio - I meant to ask about the bag -- Inverted MTB portage bag?On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 7:18:31 PM UTC-5 Steve wrote:Tio, you've got yourself a good looking Platypus there!!!   It's always nice to see another Man On A Mixte.   Enjoy!!!StevePlatypusRitchey OutbackSampson Silverton 650b conversionOn Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:38:44 PM UTC-5 tio ryan wrote:After years of admiration, I finally talked myself into purchasing a 50cm Platypus complete (Sergio Green) back in November. It arrived mid-December and brought my current fleet of bikes to 3, each with a different wheel size: 26", 700c, and now 650b. This purchase was also my first brand new complete bicycle in over 25 years. I chose the complete since I liked the cranks/wheels, but knowing how much I like to tinker I should have realized it wouldn't stay that way for long. I rode the bike stock for a short while before eventually changing out the shifters, brakes, bars/stem, seatpost, and adding on a campee rack, kickstand, and most recently, sks bluemels. I also swapped the chainrings for my preferred biopace style in a 44/28 combo with a front derailer delete since I don't need it right now (and the stock one is ugly). With these changes, this bike is beginning to feel like 'my own' and I've never owned such a nice bicycle! Here's a photo of how mine looks currently: Bars: Nitto Albatross w/ Control Tech extensionsShifter: Suntour Power RatchetBrakes: Shimano DXR MX70Pedals: Simworks Taco It took me a minute to realize the easiest way to carry the bike up to my 3rd floor apartment is by shouldering it through the rear triangle. Since learning this, I've had no problem getting the bike in and out of my apartment, despite it's longer length. My favourite modification is the upside down shoulder bag that I copied from Roman. Combined with the kickstand, it provides the perfect place to rest my feet while seated on a bench. At traffic lights, it's a very comfortable place to sit! I am absolutely loving this bike and I'm ecstatic to finally own a Riv. On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 

Re: [RBW] Re: Question for Cheviot Owners

2024-03-24 Thread Leah Peterson
I love the Cheviots and I think they are so regal. This color is one of my favorites, too. On Mar 24, 2024, at 8:32 PM, exliontamer  wrote:I love my Cheviot & don't see myself selling it. The novelty seeking side of me was/is curious about the Platypus but I don't really see a functional difference between the two (unless you're splitting hairs about tire clearance and cantilever-posts) and I like the urbane look of the Cheviot. My wife has a Platypus and loves it too. The Platypus/Cheviot are maybe my favorite Rivendells ever made with the old Toyo Atlantis/Roadini (which my wife also owns) being tied for second. Here's my 60...



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Re: [RBW] Re: I have questions

2024-03-22 Thread Leah Peterson
I’m glad everyone knows all these things and then shares because I’m in need of it. I didn’t know you could damage your phone charging it in dyno. Will this be true even of the German master engineers at Schmidt when their new edelux hits the market? They say it charges 10 volts… Max, is that a better thing?https://nabendynamo.de/en/new-edelux-headlight-with-high-beam-function-2/I wouldn’t be opposed to the charging brick, either; I just hadn’t thought of it.I’m happy to try these GK tires I’ve got since you all have assuaged my fears about being slow on 48s. I’ll reread the other replies and respond tomorrow. It’s late!LSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 22, 2024, at 11:17 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:Patrick: I've run the Umtanum (650x55) in endurance casing, and have pals I ride with regularly on the full range basically - 650x42, 650x48, and 700x38 but all on the endurance casing. I plan to try the Extralight version next, but honestly the Endurance doesn't feel stiff nor heavy. Every one of my riding pals who've taken the plunge have been singing their praises loud and far, and seemingly everyone I ride with is going to them now as a result. I will agree that they are not particularly quiet on the road, even the claimed noise-cancelling models. They're not nearly as quiet as a Gravel King SK. I will say though that they have a pleasant enough tone, and that noise doesn't translate to slowness at all - coming to realize this is critical to enjoying them fully. Much like we're sort of pre-programmed to believe that the feedback of skinny tires translates to speed, even though we know better now, the same is true of the buzz from knobby tires. Thanks to Strava I can confidently say that I'm not appreciably slower on the RH knobbies, though if I don't need them I'd prefer the silence of the slicks. On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 7:46 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:Jason: Which RH knobbies, pray? I just scored a near-new, Normal Casing pair of 622X48 (will be at least 50 on my rims) Oracle Ridges for $100 shipped, and Fat Tire Cycles will set them up tubeless on the new Velocity Blunt SS wheelset for a dirt-biased wheelset for the dirt road Matthews. The Soma Supple Vitesse SLs will remain on the original wheelset, for pavement-biased riding but capable of shallower sand. But if Oracle Ridges roll as well as RH claims for their knobbies, I may not have needed a second wheelset ...Since my Kelpie fenders (a) were sized and sited for 60s, and so have at least an inch of clearance over 50s, and (b) are, sheet metal and stays, at least 50% thicker than your puny Honjos and Berthouds and VOs, I am going to risk Oracles and fenders.Patrick Moore, who sped home from church just now on the very fast and lively Nachess Pass EL wheelset on the other Matthews.On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 6:32 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:... I am going to sow the seed now that the gravel & travel platy should run RH knobbies if no fenders - they are remarkably quick on pavement and a lifesaver on gravel and dirt. I run them on my Wombat which I ride on some challenging terrain and I've never felt the tires were a limiting factor yet! 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Revisiting the Nitto 52f Basket Rack

2024-03-22 Thread Leah Peterson
Hi Corwin! Yes, I had a different rack on the Betty, but my point was that I used to have a front rack and it must not have bothered me, so what’s different about the basket rack? I do think the basket rack causes the bars to swing more.  I’ve decided to put it on the purple bike for now, and if I can’t stand the wheel flop or the awkwardness it bestows on the front end, then I’ll pull it. The dyno wires complicate matters and make me handwring. If it weren’t for that, I could merrily go about with my rack experimenting. Maybe I’ll hold off on my dyno until I know for sure.It’s good to hear a favorable review - I haven’t come across many for this rack.LOn Mar 22, 2024, at 3:37 PM, Corwin Zechar  wrote:Hi Leah -Sorry to be late to the party. I did get the Nitto 52f Basket Rack. In fact, I bought two. One is mounted on my Hubbuhubbuh. I have a Wald Racer basket zip tied to the rack. The other is mounted on the Cunningham Hubbuhubbuh. I really love the rack. It swallows massive loads without complaint. I also have a the cargo nets which I use to secure any load I put in the basket rack.I was somewhat confused looking at your post, since the Nitto 52f is not the rack mounted to your Betty Foy as shown in the photo.I do not have much of a problem with wheel flop. But this could be because I do not have a kick stand on my Hubbuhubbuh and I never used the kick stand on the Cunningham Hubbuhubbuh. I do not find kick stands helpful and do not mount them on any of my bikes.Hope this helps,Regards,CorwinOn Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 4:52:53 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Do did anyone get this rack and love it? I got a lot of suggestions about how to stop wheel flop but I didn’t read a lot of reviews of this rack. Anyone else?I like the Velcro strap idea because it’s easy to take it off me and slap it on the bike. I also think I just have to suffer the annoyance of the front rack one *one* bike. I used to love my Nitto Big Front Rack from my dog carrying days seen here: I’m sure I had wheel flop. Did I not notice? Anyway, could one GET a bigger basket? No. And I only had that giant rack so I could take that dog along because he was such a nag. Ok, I’ll just put the rack on because I have it and it’s pretty and it’s useful. And then I’ll change my mind all over again and mess up my dyno wiring and come here crying about it. This is the way.LeahOn Mar 12, 2024, at 4:19 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:The best parking brake, in my opinion, is the sturdy velcro leg band off my pants leg.  I have it, and don't need it on my leg, since I'm parking my bike.  When I take off the parking brake it reminds me to put my leg band back on :). For steer-stopping, I keep a longer velcro strap connected to each of my two tandems (one HubbuHubbuH, one beater tandem).  When I park the tandem, I route the velcro strap around the down tube and the front wheel and pull it tight.  Now I can lean the machine against the wall or pole or fence and it stays a single rigid object, and prevents the front wheel turning.  It's a good system for that task.  If "parking flop" is the entirety of the problem, that's a $10 solution to "parking flop".  If "riding flop" or "steering flop" is part/all of the problem, a strap won't help you.  I bought some Stout 650B tires, and strangely each tire came with this curiously nice long velcro strap.  It was too nice to toss, so I looked for a good reason to use it.  It's ~twice as long as a leg band.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Monday, March 11, 2024 at 12:10:56 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:Hi Leah,Your Platypus is going to be amazing. I advocate that you get the Velo Orange steering damper.However, to install it you are going to need to reroute your cables on the downtube. Here's what you need for that, which allows you to run full length outer housing. I have these for my rear brake on my Rivendell and they work great. As a bonus, you can get cool cable outers in a contrasting color (try Sim Works or Velo Orange for these): https://www.amazon.com/ZYAMY-Bicycle-Hydraulic-Housing-Clamps/dp/B095P4GPQZThe steerstopper is a cool farkle (fancy accessory really kewl likely expensive), but it's a $100 solution to a $10 problem. Try one of these on your front brake lever first as a parking brake:https://www.amazon.com/Nite-Ize-Original-Reusable-Assorted/dp/B00SHBNE8E/ref=asc_df_B00SHBNE8E/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=19807628==g=15513276014631186794c===9067609=pla-318105899700=1=CjwKCAjw17qvBhBrEiwA1rU9w2QBemfat-bZ6llmXU4aAVZxoNtAa1OXdctlHdbXqGK7DcyUwTEkvxoC9MkQAvD_BwEMichaelOn Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:22:42 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:@Tom,Thank-you for your information. I appreciate it.  Kim Hetzel.On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 7:52:33 AM UTC-7 Tom Horton wrote:kim, re the steerstopper on a clem L, I've had one on a clem L 64 for a few years and works fineI don't load the front basket with bricks or anything ultra heavy, but load of groceries, books, etc...no 

Re: [RBW] Re: I have questions

2024-03-21 Thread Leah Peterson
Max,1. Yes. I try to live without them. I never can.2. I need a Randi Jo bag on the stem/bar. I was planning to put the front rack on because I have it and because it might be useful for travel. I’ll also have a rear rack that can take the Backabike Bags. This bike is kind of set up for multiple things, I guess… The bags would be sent with the support vehicles for the 2 day Chicago-New Buffalo ride. I’d just have the bags on the bike until I got to the ride.Does that make sense?On Mar 21, 2024, at 4:36 PM, Max S  wrote:Leah, Coupla questions back to you... 1) is the travel set-up going to use fenders? 2) do you need the front bag, or could you get away with just a saddlebag, and/or bar bag strapped to the handlebars? - Max "simplicate, simplicate, simplicate" in A2On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 2:45:54 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:This sounds very interesting; sort of an updated version of the B Luxos U, with a higher power collection from the dynamo, brighter standard and highbeam lights (have LEDs improved that much in the last decade? I know that batteries have), and a MagSafe-type connecter for USB peripherals. The ability to run the light and charge a USB device simultaneously - that's huge.I trust you'll report back when you've tried one out. Being a neighbor and a gadget cheapskate, I hope I'll get the chance to see it in action before I buy a $200+ headlight. But this could address a lot of problems.Peter "доверяй, но проверяй" AdlerBerkeley, California/USAOn Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 8:49:13 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:SON is supposed to be releasing a light that has a charger and has a "high beam" function in "Spring 2024"Update: New version of the Edelux USB-FL – SON Hub Dynamos (nabendynamo.de)I'll be eager to try it out when it gets released...Collin in BerkeleyOn Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 6:10:14 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have had some of the same questions tumbling about in my brain as I wait for the last of the parts for my Gravel & Travel Platy. I just got back from a warm and delightful weekend of cycling in Philadelphia. I, a newly minted Michigander, was happy to return to the shire, and for that, I was welcomed with Second Winter. Michigan is over here, doing me dirty. I’m prevailing upon you to humor me and answer my questions, because a lot of you are having spring and flowers and sunshine, so this is the least you could do!I got the 50 cm Platy to take on trips. Will fit in the van better, will fit on Amtrak, be easier to shove in elevators, that sort of thing. But the tires I have on hand are 48 mm Gravel Kings. They are almost new. I’m considering taking a train to a ride this summer, but that means no Racing Platypus, only the purple one can fit. Can 48 mm tires do a 15-17 mph road ride pace? I have 42 on all my other bikes. Would 48s be slow? The ride is a 2 day event, 100 miles total. I’d like to keep the tires if I could, because they’re new and they are fat enough to also double as gravel tires, should I decide to do a gravel ride again. But I do more road rides than anything else, and if those 48s will cripple me, I’ll go back to 42s. What’s the consensus?Basket straps. I have the Nitto Basket Rack and even though I’ve disliked it in the past, I figure it’s pretty and I already own it and I might need a front rack for travel. But do I really have to put the ugly strap from bar to basket? Is the Nitto Basket Rack safer than the Mark’s Rack? I know Sergio was thrown when his Mark’s Rack loosened and hit the front tire and he’s missing significant chunks of front teeth! What is everyone doing about their front racks?Lights. I have an Edelux light. It’s not the right color for this build, but it’s perfectly good. But sometimes I think, “wouldn’t it be nice to have a light that would charge your phone?” The Sinewave Beacon 2 will do just that, but it sounds like it’s not a great road light. What are people using to charge phones on long rides away from home?I ordered my wheels today. This, because J at the Velocity booth in Philly talked me into them when he heard about the theme of my build. Here’s a sneak peek.And thanks for helping me out here! It’s good to hear people’s experiences and points of view!Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: I have questions

2024-03-21 Thread Leah Peterson
COLLIN. Thank you SO much. Problem solved, and this is what I’ll get!Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 20, 2024, at 11:49 PM, Collin A  wrote:SON is supposed to be releasing a light that has a charger and has a "high beam" function in "Spring 2024"Update: New version of the Edelux USB-FL – SON Hub Dynamos (nabendynamo.de)I'll be eager to try it out when it gets released...Collin in BerkeleyOn Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 6:10:14 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have had some of the same questions tumbling about in my brain as I wait for the last of the parts for my Gravel & Travel Platy. I just got back from a warm and delightful weekend of cycling in Philadelphia. I, a newly minted Michigander, was happy to return to the shire, and for that, I was welcomed with Second Winter. Michigan is over here, doing me dirty. I’m prevailing upon you to humor me and answer my questions, because a lot of you are having spring and flowers and sunshine, so this is the least you could do!I got the 50 cm Platy to take on trips. Will fit in the van better, will fit on Amtrak, be easier to shove in elevators, that sort of thing. But the tires I have on hand are 48 mm Gravel Kings. They are almost new. I’m considering taking a train to a ride this summer, but that means no Racing Platypus, only the purple one can fit. Can 48 mm tires do a 15-17 mph road ride pace? I have 42 on all my other bikes. Would 48s be slow? The ride is a 2 day event, 100 miles total. I’d like to keep the tires if I could, because they’re new and they are fat enough to also double as gravel tires, should I decide to do a gravel ride again. But I do more road rides than anything else, and if those 48s will cripple me, I’ll go back to 42s. What’s the consensus?Basket straps. I have the Nitto Basket Rack and even though I’ve disliked it in the past, I figure it’s pretty and I already own it and I might need a front rack for travel. But do I really have to put the ugly strap from bar to basket? Is the Nitto Basket Rack safer than the Mark’s Rack? I know Sergio was thrown when his Mark’s Rack loosened and hit the front tire and he’s missing significant chunks of front teeth! What is everyone doing about their front racks?Lights. I have an Edelux light. It’s not the right color for this build, but it’s perfectly good. But sometimes I think, “wouldn’t it be nice to have a light that would charge your phone?” The Sinewave Beacon 2 will do just that, but it sounds like it’s not a great road light. What are people using to charge phones on long rides away from home?I ordered my wheels today. This, because J at the Velocity booth in Philly talked me into them when he heard about the theme of my build. Here’s a sneak peek.And thanks for helping me out here! It’s good to hear people’s experiences and points of view!Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Question for Cheviot Owners

2024-03-11 Thread Leah Peterson
Really?! We need to stories AND the photos!Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 11, 2024, at 12:03 PM, katherine Evanskbe  wrote:Thanks to you Leah, I’m the proud owner of two!! When I have a minute, I will post some pictures! :)Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 10, 2024, at 12:51 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:This has been an interesting and fun thread to read! Sounds like you all cherish your Cheviots; makes me want to be in your club!Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 9, 2024, at 2:55 PM, J Imler  wrote:My Chev ownership is only months long and I appreciate its utility, beauty, and charm. I've set it up similarly to the "do-it-all" from the Chev brochure, minus the fenders. At a 60cm frame, it's a bigger bike but no worries due to the step-through. I'm very happy to own this bicycle.On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Recently a James on this List wanted a 60 cm Cheviot. Pam (who always wants everyone to find their Rivendell and get riding) asked me to help find one. I knew it would be difficult, and while I didn’t find him one, Kim found him TWO, and in James’ preferred color. Happy ending. Anyway, it seems to me (I might be wrong) that Cheviots are rarely for sale. I think they were made from 2014-2019, so they did have a good run. Is it that their owners keep them? Or are there really just so few? Maybe more of them belong to women, and maybe women don’t sell bikes as often as men do? Why is it so hard to find a Cheviot on the used market? This is what I want to know.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Question for Cheviot Owners

2024-03-10 Thread Leah Peterson
This has been an interesting and fun thread to read! Sounds like you all cherish your Cheviots; makes me want to be in your club!Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 9, 2024, at 2:55 PM, J Imler  wrote:My Chev ownership is only months long and I appreciate its utility, beauty, and charm. I've set it up similarly to the "do-it-all" from the Chev brochure, minus the fenders. At a 60cm frame, it's a bigger bike but no worries due to the step-through. I'm very happy to own this bicycle.On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Recently a James on this List wanted a 60 cm Cheviot. Pam (who always wants everyone to find their Rivendell and get riding) asked me to help find one. I knew it would be difficult, and while I didn’t find him one, Kim found him TWO, and in James’ preferred color. Happy ending. Anyway, it seems to me (I might be wrong) that Cheviots are rarely for sale. I think they were made from 2014-2019, so they did have a good run. Is it that their owners keep them? Or are there really just so few? Maybe more of them belong to women, and maybe women don’t sell bikes as often as men do? Why is it so hard to find a Cheviot on the used market? This is what I want to know.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: RoadeoRosa teaser

2024-02-15 Thread Leah Peterson
DRAT this 3 hour time zone difference. I’ll be waiting forever over here! Hurry, hurry!On Feb 14, 2024, at 10:50 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:Mark tells me my frame is sitting in his stand right now...I'm going to pick it up Thursday morning, and I have to pick my headbadge.  The Roadeo head badge comes in Red or in Blue.  The Roadeo page on the website shows them both.  I'm definitely going blue.  There are a few touches of blue that will show up elsewhere on the build, so that will tie in.  I'm pretty sure I have absolutely every piece of the build so it may be New Bike Day less than 24 hours from now.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Friday, February 9, 2024 at 5:44:17 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I love it already. It’s the perfect pink. And we only have to wait until next week to see it!On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 5:22:34 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:Rick at D tells me he'll be delivering my Roadeo frame set to Rivendell HQ next week sometime.  He gave me a sneak peek at my color-matched Rene Herse/Honjo fenders.  Here they are:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53519732639/in/album-72177720313109003/It's getting realBill LindsayEl Cerrito, CA



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Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

2024-02-13 Thread Leah Peterson
Oh wonderful! Is your wife a RivSister? If so, she’d be the first I’ve ever ridden with since we moved to Michigan. I’m staying in a hotel, but you guys feel free to get some coffee at my room if you like!Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 13, 2024, at 1:56 PM, Leif Eckstrom  wrote:That's great, Leah! I'm planning to camp. My wife will be riding for the first time and camping, too. I had a blast last year and fell in with a group that quickly became friends along the way. You and anyone else from this list would be most welcome to ride with us. Best,LeifOn Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:44:55 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Leif, I just might have to do it! Are you planning to camp or sleep in a hotel? Are you riding alone? If there was a group of us Riv Riders that wanted to ride together I think it would be great. LeahOn Feb 13, 2024, at 1:17 PM, Leif Eckstrom <leifec...@gmail.com> wrote:Leah, Marc, Pam, et. al.,I'm loving the thought that I might just see a pack of Rivish Lone Wolf(s) on Le Tour De Shore this June. Registration is now open--with about 6 early-registration priced tickets left as of this morning, Tuesday, Feb 13.https://www.bikereg.com/letourdeshorePlease DM if you need any help with logistics or planning on the Chicago side of the ride. Best,Leif On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 9:50:40 AM UTC-6 Marc Irwin wrote:Amtrak has been working hard the past ten years to make affordable bike transport available and on all it's trains.MarcOn Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 8:22:07 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:It’s unfortunate that this country never has, and never will embrace multi-modal transportation. Just think of all the biking possibilities that could be available to so many more of us, and not just those who live in major metropolitan areas. On Jan 27, 2024, at 8:00 AM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:Yes, you remember rightly, George. This was why I had to get a 50 cm Platy (still waiting for parts to be built) - so that I could put it on Amtrak; the 55 is just too long. And even then the 50 will be a tight fit, and you can only have so many bikes on the train, and there’s some other dumb rules that may or may not be enforced when we get there. It’s not a bulletproof plan. Marc does it with a Brompton.On Jan 26, 2024, at 11:54 AM, George Schick <bhi...@gmail.com> wrote:I hate to throw a wet blanket on this idea, but wasn't there some discussion on this forum a while back about taking bikes on Amtrak, which trains allow them and which ones don't, where and how they store the bikes, etc?  Not sure if that was ever resolved for this route. Has anyone done this before on this Amtrak Wolverine route?On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 10:42:00 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Marc! You want to do this with me, I’m sure!The Lone Wolf and The Platypus Rider Ride Across Two States. I can see it now.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 26, 2024, at 11:29 AM, Marc Irwin <irwi...@gmail.com> wrote:Leah,      The ride from Millenium Park sounds like the route I've taken several times to and from Chicago, using Indiana Dunes as one of the overnights.  It would be a good ride, you could take Amtrak to Chicago and return on Amtrak from New Buffalo.MarcOn Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 9:23:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Leif, I could do this It’s Father’s day weekend, so that is the only possible snag. I’m going to try and make this ride! Thank you!!!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 25, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Leif Eckstrom <leifec...@gmail.com> wrote:Hey Leah, and midwestern riders, There’s a well-planned and well-executed ride from Chicago’s Millenium Park to New Buffalo, MI, spread out over 2 days, totalling about 100 miles all told. June 14-15 (Friday and Saturday).  Hundreds of friendly riders—most camp the first night at Indiana Dunes state park, but hotels are another option. Easy pace. Easy route. Food and sag support. There are a number of Ragbrai riders who attend this ride from chicago. Perhaps they could give you a taste of ragbrai without all the logistical headaches. I had a lot of fun last year on this ride and made plenty of new friends. Registration opens Sunday, February 11. There are busses and moving trucks to take you, your luggage, and your bike back to chicago should you like. More details here. https://www.bikereg.com/63763Best, Leif in ChicagoOn Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Welp, I was so much more excited about this in theory. After reading about the various experiences of damaged luggage, sweltering temps and difficult logistics, I think I’ll find a different ride to do. Thanks to everyone who offered their experiences! It was a great thread to read in the dead of a Michigan winter.LeahOn Jan 21, 2024, at 12:03 PM, Matt Beecher <beec...@gmail.com> wrote:If I were to do it again, I would pay for one of the services where they haul your stuff and set up your tent.  Getting a hotel wil

Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

2024-02-13 Thread Leah Peterson
Leif, I just might have to do it! Are you planning to camp or sleep in a hotel? Are you riding alone? If there was a group of us Riv Riders that wanted to ride together I think it would be great. LeahOn Feb 13, 2024, at 1:17 PM, Leif Eckstrom  wrote:Leah, Marc, Pam, et. al.,I'm loving the thought that I might just see a pack of Rivish Lone Wolf(s) on Le Tour De Shore this June. Registration is now open--with about 6 early-registration priced tickets left as of this morning, Tuesday, Feb 13.https://www.bikereg.com/letourdeshorePlease DM if you need any help with logistics or planning on the Chicago side of the ride. Best,Leif On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 9:50:40 AM UTC-6 Marc Irwin wrote:Amtrak has been working hard the past ten years to make affordable bike transport available and on all it's trains.MarcOn Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 8:22:07 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:It’s unfortunate that this country never has, and never will embrace multi-modal transportation. Just think of all the biking possibilities that could be available to so many more of us, and not just those who live in major metropolitan areas. On Jan 27, 2024, at 8:00 AM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:Yes, you remember rightly, George. This was why I had to get a 50 cm Platy (still waiting for parts to be built) - so that I could put it on Amtrak; the 55 is just too long. And even then the 50 will be a tight fit, and you can only have so many bikes on the train, and there’s some other dumb rules that may or may not be enforced when we get there. It’s not a bulletproof plan. Marc does it with a Brompton.On Jan 26, 2024, at 11:54 AM, George Schick <bhi...@gmail.com> wrote:I hate to throw a wet blanket on this idea, but wasn't there some discussion on this forum a while back about taking bikes on Amtrak, which trains allow them and which ones don't, where and how they store the bikes, etc?  Not sure if that was ever resolved for this route. Has anyone done this before on this Amtrak Wolverine route?On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 10:42:00 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Marc! You want to do this with me, I’m sure!The Lone Wolf and The Platypus Rider Ride Across Two States. I can see it now.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 26, 2024, at 11:29 AM, Marc Irwin <irwi...@gmail.com> wrote:Leah,      The ride from Millenium Park sounds like the route I've taken several times to and from Chicago, using Indiana Dunes as one of the overnights.  It would be a good ride, you could take Amtrak to Chicago and return on Amtrak from New Buffalo.MarcOn Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 9:23:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Leif, I could do this It’s Father’s day weekend, so that is the only possible snag. I’m going to try and make this ride! Thank you!!!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 25, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Leif Eckstrom <leifec...@gmail.com> wrote:Hey Leah, and midwestern riders, There’s a well-planned and well-executed ride from Chicago’s Millenium Park to New Buffalo, MI, spread out over 2 days, totalling about 100 miles all told. June 14-15 (Friday and Saturday).  Hundreds of friendly riders—most camp the first night at Indiana Dunes state park, but hotels are another option. Easy pace. Easy route. Food and sag support. There are a number of Ragbrai riders who attend this ride from chicago. Perhaps they could give you a taste of ragbrai without all the logistical headaches. I had a lot of fun last year on this ride and made plenty of new friends. Registration opens Sunday, February 11. There are busses and moving trucks to take you, your luggage, and your bike back to chicago should you like. More details here. https://www.bikereg.com/63763Best, Leif in ChicagoOn Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Welp, I was so much more excited about this in theory. After reading about the various experiences of damaged luggage, sweltering temps and difficult logistics, I think I’ll find a different ride to do. Thanks to everyone who offered their experiences! It was a great thread to read in the dead of a Michigan winter.LeahOn Jan 21, 2024, at 12:03 PM, Matt Beecher <beec...@gmail.com> wrote:If I were to do it again, I would pay for one of the services where they haul your stuff and set up your tent.  Getting a hotel will likely be nearly impossible, given the number of people attending.  I did RAGBRAI a few years ago and tried bringing my own tent and setting it up at night.  The kids they use to haul luggage from site to site quickly destroyed my bag.  Basically, they pile them in the truck and if I had to guess, they saw my handles and yanked on it to pull it free, but tore the brand new heavy canvas bag instead.  I tried holding it together with a cable lock and tape, but had to give up on that after a few days.  A lot of items I didn't need were tossed, then the rest went into my panniers and I had to haul it myself.  Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the lu

Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

2024-01-27 Thread Leah Peterson
Yes, you remember rightly, George. This was why I had to get a 50 cm Platy (still waiting for parts to be built) - so that I could put it on Amtrak; the 55 is just too long. And even then the 50 will be a tight fit, and you can only have so many bikes on the train, and there’s some other dumb rules that may or may not be enforced when we get there. It’s not a bulletproof plan. Marc does it with a Brompton.On Jan 26, 2024, at 11:54 AM, George Schick  wrote:I hate to throw a wet blanket on this idea, but wasn't there some discussion on this forum a while back about taking bikes on Amtrak, which trains allow them and which ones don't, where and how they store the bikes, etc?  Not sure if that was ever resolved for this route. Has anyone done this before on this Amtrak Wolverine route?On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 10:42:00 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Marc! You want to do this with me, I’m sure!The Lone Wolf and The Platypus Rider Ride Across Two States. I can see it now.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 26, 2024, at 11:29 AM, Marc Irwin  wrote:Leah,      The ride from Millenium Park sounds like the route I've taken several times to and from Chicago, using Indiana Dunes as one of the overnights.  It would be a good ride, you could take Amtrak to Chicago and return on Amtrak from New Buffalo.MarcOn Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 9:23:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Leif, I could do this It’s Father’s day weekend, so that is the only possible snag. I’m going to try and make this ride! Thank you!!!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 25, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Leif Eckstrom  wrote:Hey Leah, and midwestern riders, There’s a well-planned and well-executed ride from Chicago’s Millenium Park to New Buffalo, MI, spread out over 2 days, totalling about 100 miles all told. June 14-15 (Friday and Saturday).  Hundreds of friendly riders—most camp the first night at Indiana Dunes state park, but hotels are another option. Easy pace. Easy route. Food and sag support. There are a number of Ragbrai riders who attend this ride from chicago. Perhaps they could give you a taste of ragbrai without all the logistical headaches. I had a lot of fun last year on this ride and made plenty of new friends. Registration opens Sunday, February 11. There are busses and moving trucks to take you, your luggage, and your bike back to chicago should you like. More details here. https://www.bikereg.com/63763Best, Leif in ChicagoOn Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Welp, I was so much more excited about this in theory. After reading about the various experiences of damaged luggage, sweltering temps and difficult logistics, I think I’ll find a different ride to do. Thanks to everyone who offered their experiences! It was a great thread to read in the dead of a Michigan winter.LeahOn Jan 21, 2024, at 12:03 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:If I were to do it again, I would pay for one of the services where they haul your stuff and set up your tent.  Getting a hotel will likely be nearly impossible, given the number of people attending.  I did RAGBRAI a few years ago and tried bringing my own tent and setting it up at night.  The kids they use to haul luggage from site to site quickly destroyed my bag.  Basically, they pile them in the truck and if I had to guess, they saw my handles and yanked on it to pull it free, but tore the brand new heavy canvas bag instead.  I tried holding it together with a cable lock and tape, but had to give up on that after a few days.  A lot of items I didn't need were tossed, then the rest went into my panniers and I had to haul it myself.  Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the luggage service side of the trip.  However, the ride itself was great, especially eating dinner with strangers every evening.  One thing I was happy that I brought was my ultralight cot.  It got me off of the ground, which kept me dry on rainy evenings and cooler on hot days.  The next trick is to find a way to charge your phone.  I'd make sure you have a power bank available.  Good luck,MattOn Monday, January 15, 2024 at 5:33:07 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Who knows about Bike Film Festival? I paid for the pass to watch this year’s videos and it was money well-spent. I got to the RAGBRAI documentary last night. Wow. I had heard of it but really knew nothing about it and now I would just love to figure out how to ride it this year. It just looks like such an experience. And I’ve had very few experiences, because I’m late to the bike adventure scene AND I’ve been raising kids! But now they are teenagers and might not even know that I’m gone so maybe I should ride this epic ride!There are a ton of logistics I don’t understand. I think you need a “charter” to haul your stuff, yes? And to bring you back across the state after you finish? And if you use these “charters” do they trash your bike in their racks or will they have something 

Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

2024-01-27 Thread Leah Peterson
Pam, we can have my husband pick us up and bring us back to Kalamazoo. It’s only an hour and a half drive or something. Amtrak leaves out of Kzoo and you could take that home! We could make this work!!!On Jan 27, 2024, at 12:38 AM, Pam Bikes  wrote:Leah, if you do that ride, maybe I can come too.  Especially if I can figure out how to get home from there.  Maybe some Riv sisters could do it too.  I'm loving this conversation finding out about more rides.  On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 11:54:12 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:I hate to throw a wet blanket on this idea, but wasn't there some discussion on this forum a while back about taking bikes on Amtrak, which trains allow them and which ones don't, where and how they store the bikes, etc?  Not sure if that was ever resolved for this route. Has anyone done this before on this Amtrak Wolverine route?On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 10:42:00 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Marc! You want to do this with me, I’m sure!The Lone Wolf and The Platypus Rider Ride Across Two States. I can see it now.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 26, 2024, at 11:29 AM, Marc Irwin  wrote:Leah,      The ride from Millenium Park sounds like the route I've taken several times to and from Chicago, using Indiana Dunes as one of the overnights.  It would be a good ride, you could take Amtrak to Chicago and return on Amtrak from New Buffalo.MarcOn Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 9:23:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Leif, I could do this It’s Father’s day weekend, so that is the only possible snag. I’m going to try and make this ride! Thank you!!!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 25, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Leif Eckstrom  wrote:Hey Leah, and midwestern riders, There’s a well-planned and well-executed ride from Chicago’s Millenium Park to New Buffalo, MI, spread out over 2 days, totalling about 100 miles all told. June 14-15 (Friday and Saturday).  Hundreds of friendly riders—most camp the first night at Indiana Dunes state park, but hotels are another option. Easy pace. Easy route. Food and sag support. There are a number of Ragbrai riders who attend this ride from chicago. Perhaps they could give you a taste of ragbrai without all the logistical headaches. I had a lot of fun last year on this ride and made plenty of new friends. Registration opens Sunday, February 11. There are busses and moving trucks to take you, your luggage, and your bike back to chicago should you like. More details here. https://www.bikereg.com/63763Best, Leif in ChicagoOn Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Welp, I was so much more excited about this in theory. After reading about the various experiences of damaged luggage, sweltering temps and difficult logistics, I think I’ll find a different ride to do. Thanks to everyone who offered their experiences! It was a great thread to read in the dead of a Michigan winter.LeahOn Jan 21, 2024, at 12:03 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:If I were to do it again, I would pay for one of the services where they haul your stuff and set up your tent.  Getting a hotel will likely be nearly impossible, given the number of people attending.  I did RAGBRAI a few years ago and tried bringing my own tent and setting it up at night.  The kids they use to haul luggage from site to site quickly destroyed my bag.  Basically, they pile them in the truck and if I had to guess, they saw my handles and yanked on it to pull it free, but tore the brand new heavy canvas bag instead.  I tried holding it together with a cable lock and tape, but had to give up on that after a few days.  A lot of items I didn't need were tossed, then the rest went into my panniers and I had to haul it myself.  Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the luggage service side of the trip.  However, the ride itself was great, especially eating dinner with strangers every evening.  One thing I was happy that I brought was my ultralight cot.  It got me off of the ground, which kept me dry on rainy evenings and cooler on hot days.  The next trick is to find a way to charge your phone.  I'd make sure you have a power bank available.  Good luck,MattOn Monday, January 15, 2024 at 5:33:07 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Who knows about Bike Film Festival? I paid for the pass to watch this year’s videos and it was money well-spent. I got to the RAGBRAI documentary last night. Wow. I had heard of it but really knew nothing about it and now I would just love to figure out how to ride it this year. It just looks like such an experience. And I’ve had very few experiences, because I’m late to the bike adventure scene AND I’ve been raising kids! But now they are teenagers and might not even know that I’m gone so maybe I should ride this epic ride!There are a ton of logistics I don’t understand. I think you need a “charter” to haul your stuff, yes? And to bring you back across the state after you finish? And if you use these 

Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

2024-01-26 Thread Leah Peterson
Marc! You want to do this with me, I’m sure!The Lone Wolf and The Platypus Rider Ride Across Two States. I can see it now.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 26, 2024, at 11:29 AM, Marc Irwin  wrote:Leah,      The ride from Millenium Park sounds like the route I've taken several times to and from Chicago, using Indiana Dunes as one of the overnights.  It would be a good ride, you could take Amtrak to Chicago and return on Amtrak from New Buffalo.MarcOn Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 9:23:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Leif, I could do this It’s Father’s day weekend, so that is the only possible snag. I’m going to try and make this ride! Thank you!!!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 25, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Leif Eckstrom  wrote:Hey Leah, and midwestern riders, There’s a well-planned and well-executed ride from Chicago’s Millenium Park to New Buffalo, MI, spread out over 2 days, totalling about 100 miles all told. June 14-15 (Friday and Saturday).  Hundreds of friendly riders—most camp the first night at Indiana Dunes state park, but hotels are another option. Easy pace. Easy route. Food and sag support. There are a number of Ragbrai riders who attend this ride from chicago. Perhaps they could give you a taste of ragbrai without all the logistical headaches. I had a lot of fun last year on this ride and made plenty of new friends. Registration opens Sunday, February 11. There are busses and moving trucks to take you, your luggage, and your bike back to chicago should you like. More details here. https://www.bikereg.com/63763Best, Leif in ChicagoOn Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Welp, I was so much more excited about this in theory. After reading about the various experiences of damaged luggage, sweltering temps and difficult logistics, I think I’ll find a different ride to do. Thanks to everyone who offered their experiences! It was a great thread to read in the dead of a Michigan winter.LeahOn Jan 21, 2024, at 12:03 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:If I were to do it again, I would pay for one of the services where they haul your stuff and set up your tent.  Getting a hotel will likely be nearly impossible, given the number of people attending.  I did RAGBRAI a few years ago and tried bringing my own tent and setting it up at night.  The kids they use to haul luggage from site to site quickly destroyed my bag.  Basically, they pile them in the truck and if I had to guess, they saw my handles and yanked on it to pull it free, but tore the brand new heavy canvas bag instead.  I tried holding it together with a cable lock and tape, but had to give up on that after a few days.  A lot of items I didn't need were tossed, then the rest went into my panniers and I had to haul it myself.  Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the luggage service side of the trip.  However, the ride itself was great, especially eating dinner with strangers every evening.  One thing I was happy that I brought was my ultralight cot.  It got me off of the ground, which kept me dry on rainy evenings and cooler on hot days.  The next trick is to find a way to charge your phone.  I'd make sure you have a power bank available.  Good luck,MattOn Monday, January 15, 2024 at 5:33:07 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Who knows about Bike Film Festival? I paid for the pass to watch this year’s videos and it was money well-spent. I got to the RAGBRAI documentary last night. Wow. I had heard of it but really knew nothing about it and now I would just love to figure out how to ride it this year. It just looks like such an experience. And I’ve had very few experiences, because I’m late to the bike adventure scene AND I’ve been raising kids! But now they are teenagers and might not even know that I’m gone so maybe I should ride this epic ride!There are a ton of logistics I don’t understand. I think you need a “charter” to haul your stuff, yes? And to bring you back across the state after you finish? And if you use these “charters” do they trash your bike in their racks or will they have something that can handle a a mixte with fenders? Is there are charter that is more friendly to Riv bikes than the others?Also, no camping. I’m really hoping to end up in a hotel or some sort of dwelling. I don’t have any tents, don’t know how to pitch tents and so on. This may be the thing I can’t plan my way out of, because there are so many riders moving through tiny host towns.I’ll look up more info tonight after I get my chores done! But it really is so exciting to imagine riding my bike across a whole state… Also, it’s Real Winter here in Michigan, so maybe that’s why this hits different.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

2024-01-25 Thread Leah Peterson
Leif, I could do this It’s Father’s day weekend, so that is the only possible snag. I’m going to try and make this ride! Thank you!!!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 25, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Leif Eckstrom  wrote:Hey Leah, and midwestern riders, There’s a well-planned and well-executed ride from Chicago’s Millenium Park to New Buffalo, MI, spread out over 2 days, totalling about 100 miles all told. June 14-15 (Friday and Saturday).  Hundreds of friendly riders—most camp the first night at Indiana Dunes state park, but hotels are another option. Easy pace. Easy route. Food and sag support. There are a number of Ragbrai riders who attend this ride from chicago. Perhaps they could give you a taste of ragbrai without all the logistical headaches. I had a lot of fun last year on this ride and made plenty of new friends. Registration opens Sunday, February 11. There are busses and moving trucks to take you, your luggage, and your bike back to chicago should you like. More details here. https://www.bikereg.com/63763Best, Leif in ChicagoOn Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Welp, I was so much more excited about this in theory. After reading about the various experiences of damaged luggage, sweltering temps and difficult logistics, I think I’ll find a different ride to do. Thanks to everyone who offered their experiences! It was a great thread to read in the dead of a Michigan winter.LeahOn Jan 21, 2024, at 12:03 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:If I were to do it again, I would pay for one of the services where they haul your stuff and set up your tent.  Getting a hotel will likely be nearly impossible, given the number of people attending.  I did RAGBRAI a few years ago and tried bringing my own tent and setting it up at night.  The kids they use to haul luggage from site to site quickly destroyed my bag.  Basically, they pile them in the truck and if I had to guess, they saw my handles and yanked on it to pull it free, but tore the brand new heavy canvas bag instead.  I tried holding it together with a cable lock and tape, but had to give up on that after a few days.  A lot of items I didn't need were tossed, then the rest went into my panniers and I had to haul it myself.  Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the luggage service side of the trip.  However, the ride itself was great, especially eating dinner with strangers every evening.  One thing I was happy that I brought was my ultralight cot.  It got me off of the ground, which kept me dry on rainy evenings and cooler on hot days.  The next trick is to find a way to charge your phone.  I'd make sure you have a power bank available.  Good luck,MattOn Monday, January 15, 2024 at 5:33:07 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Who knows about Bike Film Festival? I paid for the pass to watch this year’s videos and it was money well-spent. I got to the RAGBRAI documentary last night. Wow. I had heard of it but really knew nothing about it and now I would just love to figure out how to ride it this year. It just looks like such an experience. And I’ve had very few experiences, because I’m late to the bike adventure scene AND I’ve been raising kids! But now they are teenagers and might not even know that I’m gone so maybe I should ride this epic ride!There are a ton of logistics I don’t understand. I think you need a “charter” to haul your stuff, yes? And to bring you back across the state after you finish? And if you use these “charters” do they trash your bike in their racks or will they have something that can handle a a mixte with fenders? Is there are charter that is more friendly to Riv bikes than the others?Also, no camping. I’m really hoping to end up in a hotel or some sort of dwelling. I don’t have any tents, don’t know how to pitch tents and so on. This may be the thing I can’t plan my way out of, because there are so many riders moving through tiny host towns.I’ll look up more info tonight after I get my chores done! But it really is so exciting to imagine riding my bike across a whole state… Also, it’s Real Winter here in Michigan, so maybe that’s why this hits different.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

2024-01-21 Thread Leah Peterson
George is right. I wonder if those wheelman will let a raspberry racing Platypus and its non-self-sufficient rider on any of their rides. Here’s to new adventures! Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 21, 2024, at 5:11 PM, George Schick  wrote:Not to worry, all is not lost.  There's this ride calendar of events in the Wolverine state: https://lmb.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/RideCal_2023_v5_web.pdfOn Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Welp, I was so much more excited about this in theory. After reading about the various experiences of damaged luggage, sweltering temps and difficult logistics, I think I’ll find a different ride to do. Thanks to everyone who offered their experiences! It was a great thread to read in the dead of a Michigan winter.LeahOn Jan 21, 2024, at 12:03 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:If I were to do it again, I would pay for one of the services where they haul your stuff and set up your tent.  Getting a hotel will likely be nearly impossible, given the number of people attending.  I did RAGBRAI a few years ago and tried bringing my own tent and setting it up at night.  The kids they use to haul luggage from site to site quickly destroyed my bag.  Basically, they pile them in the truck and if I had to guess, they saw my handles and yanked on it to pull it free, but tore the brand new heavy canvas bag instead.  I tried holding it together with a cable lock and tape, but had to give up on that after a few days.  A lot of items I didn't need were tossed, then the rest went into my panniers and I had to haul it myself.  Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the luggage service side of the trip.  However, the ride itself was great, especially eating dinner with strangers every evening.  One thing I was happy that I brought was my ultralight cot.  It got me off of the ground, which kept me dry on rainy evenings and cooler on hot days.  The next trick is to find a way to charge your phone.  I'd make sure you have a power bank available.  Good luck,MattOn Monday, January 15, 2024 at 5:33:07 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Who knows about Bike Film Festival? I paid for the pass to watch this year’s videos and it was money well-spent. I got to the RAGBRAI documentary last night. Wow. I had heard of it but really knew nothing about it and now I would just love to figure out how to ride it this year. It just looks like such an experience. And I’ve had very few experiences, because I’m late to the bike adventure scene AND I’ve been raising kids! But now they are teenagers and might not even know that I’m gone so maybe I should ride this epic ride!There are a ton of logistics I don’t understand. I think you need a “charter” to haul your stuff, yes? And to bring you back across the state after you finish? And if you use these “charters” do they trash your bike in their racks or will they have something that can handle a a mixte with fenders? Is there are charter that is more friendly to Riv bikes than the others?Also, no camping. I’m really hoping to end up in a hotel or some sort of dwelling. I don’t have any tents, don’t know how to pitch tents and so on. This may be the thing I can’t plan my way out of, because there are so many riders moving through tiny host towns.I’ll look up more info tonight after I get my chores done! But it really is so exciting to imagine riding my bike across a whole state… Also, it’s Real Winter here in Michigan, so maybe that’s why this hits different.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

2024-01-21 Thread Leah Peterson
Welp, I was so much more excited about this in theory. After reading about the various experiences of damaged luggage, sweltering temps and difficult logistics, I think I’ll find a different ride to do. Thanks to everyone who offered their experiences! It was a great thread to read in the dead of a Michigan winter.LeahOn Jan 21, 2024, at 12:03 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:If I were to do it again, I would pay for one of the services where they haul your stuff and set up your tent.  Getting a hotel will likely be nearly impossible, given the number of people attending.  I did RAGBRAI a few years ago and tried bringing my own tent and setting it up at night.  The kids they use to haul luggage from site to site quickly destroyed my bag.  Basically, they pile them in the truck and if I had to guess, they saw my handles and yanked on it to pull it free, but tore the brand new heavy canvas bag instead.  I tried holding it together with a cable lock and tape, but had to give up on that after a few days.  A lot of items I didn't need were tossed, then the rest went into my panniers and I had to haul it myself.  Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the luggage service side of the trip.  However, the ride itself was great, especially eating dinner with strangers every evening.  One thing I was happy that I brought was my ultralight cot.  It got me off of the ground, which kept me dry on rainy evenings and cooler on hot days.  The next trick is to find a way to charge your phone.  I'd make sure you have a power bank available.  Good luck,MattOn Monday, January 15, 2024 at 5:33:07 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Who knows about Bike Film Festival? I paid for the pass to watch this year’s videos and it was money well-spent. I got to the RAGBRAI documentary last night. Wow. I had heard of it but really knew nothing about it and now I would just love to figure out how to ride it this year. It just looks like such an experience. And I’ve had very few experiences, because I’m late to the bike adventure scene AND I’ve been raising kids! But now they are teenagers and might not even know that I’m gone so maybe I should ride this epic ride!There are a ton of logistics I don’t understand. I think you need a “charter” to haul your stuff, yes? And to bring you back across the state after you finish? And if you use these “charters” do they trash your bike in their racks or will they have something that can handle a a mixte with fenders? Is there are charter that is more friendly to Riv bikes than the others?Also, no camping. I’m really hoping to end up in a hotel or some sort of dwelling. I don’t have any tents, don’t know how to pitch tents and so on. This may be the thing I can’t plan my way out of, because there are so many riders moving through tiny host towns.I’ll look up more info tonight after I get my chores done! But it really is so exciting to imagine riding my bike across a whole state… Also, it’s Real Winter here in Michigan, so maybe that’s why this hits different.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-17 Thread Leah Peterson
Bill, how’d you know?! Get out of my head! 藍On Jan 17, 2024, at 7:23 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:Hi Paul?  It's me, Leah.  Listen, I just mailed you my Nitto rack struts and Chris King headset cups.  They just aren't cutting it being aluminum and silver.  Could you be a lamb andBL in ECOn Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 1:18:52 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I finally got the call to pick up the racing Platypus today! I don’t think the photos I took can capture how great the Paul stuff looks. The mechanics all swooned as the bike was wheeled out to the showroom. It just looks like it was meant to have these brakes and in this rose color.On Jan 15, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Brenton Eastman  wrote:the pencil gifting warms my heart!! thanks for sharingOn Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 1:38:46 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:Love it!On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 4:10:31 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:Congratulations Leah. Now you have a one of a kind brake set on a custom color Platy. On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:10:51 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:@Leah -I am certain with your new anodized bicycle parts will make you smile loudly with a lot of joy making you go faster than ever before.Enjoy !Kim Hetzel enjoying my blue 52cm Clem with a lot of joy and smiles. On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:I had the pleasure to meet and converse with Paul at the Philly Bike Expo. His approachability, perspective and overall friendliness adds to the MUSA points and makes me a fan of his parts any time I can use them. I think I'm dearly holding on to my orange Rambouillet because of the center bolt Racer brakes I added years ago to make room for more fender and tire.Name that bike "Varod". Andy Cheatham PittsburghOn Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers came with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did get my VO brake levers anodized, but that batch of rose pink ano faded freakishly fast and everything was silver 4 months later. But I’m giving it another chance. Everyone talks about Paul, and Paul sometimes offers their parts in pretty, anodized colors, but currently, they do not. I emailed the company, asking if they happened to have any of their pink levers laying around that they would be willing to sell me. I got an email back from Paul, like THE Paul, who directed me to an employee I won’t name here. He and I got in contact and he was so fun, right from the start. We chatted and he looked at my bikes (I sent him my pics via email) and we made a plan. We colored it all. The bolts, the brake body, the levers, the barrel adjustors ALL of it. The parts came in 3 boxes, plus one extra little envelope. The envelope had a small personalized gift from my new friend at Paul, just because, with a handwritten note in the prettiest handwriting I’ve ever seen. Swoon! I opened the first box and it was wrapped like origami inside. I uncovered the first gorgeous pieces and the breath left my body. So beautiful. Quality even a novice can’t miss. Just what I wanted. Rich, rose color. I would need to be with bike people to get the full joy out of this experience. My bike shop knows about Paul Components. A blizzard is on its way to Michigan and I knew my shop would not be busy. I put the pieces back in the box, loaded the boxes and my bike in the van and drove to the shop. I came in and there were 4 mechanics and zero customers. “Guys!” I said, “I have a fun project for us to do, and I can’t do it without you! Who wants to see what is in these boxes?” So there we were on company time, hovering over these immaculate little parcels, oohing and aahhing. There was extra swag in there, stuff I had never seen. “What’s this?” I asked, holding up a flat, wooden thing with Paul emblems. “It’s a carpenter’s pencil,” said the mechanic. I gave it to him.I left the bike with them and I should have it in the next couple/few days, depending on how long the blizzard rages for. Not that I’ll get to ride and try those beautiful Paul parts out; we are getting up to a foot of snow! For now they are only a visual treat. I can’t even imagine how enamored I will be when I get to actually USE the brakes. And what nice people. I was not expecting them to be so personable! I have heard they are a small operation, but they are famous in their own right - celebrity machinists, really - yet so kind to a layperson like me.Here’s the photo I got before the parts shipped. “Whatcha think?” he asked. Oh, he knew. He knew he knocked it straight outta the park.Leah 



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Re: [RBW] First turns of the pedals on my new Platypus

2024-01-15 Thread Leah Peterson
Huh, I forgot about that. A woman in my bike club makes labels for members’ 
helmets. I had an extra so I stuck it on there!

> On Jan 15, 2024, at 2:25 PM, Matthew Williams 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-14 Thread Leah Peterson
It will always have a dyno hub. I just can’t give up that kind of practicality. I didn’t know Paul components would save me any weight but I’m glad if they do. My Velo Orange levers were pretty feather-light already though. I probably do have the Platy set up as light as I dare, save the drivetrain stuff from White Industries. And Richard has a good point that all that money would only save me a third of a pound.On Jan 14, 2024, at 8:40 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:Does the raspberry Platy still have a dyno hub? If so that would be a big gain as far as weight loss and lessening drag. Otherwise you have it set up fairly light from what I remember about your posts. Paul components will sure help shave some grams.When weight is brought up the first thing Grant would say is take weight off the engine. Well I just took a massive amount of weight off the engine so I feel that I am now free and clear to be a weight weenie about the bike. :)



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Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-12 Thread Leah Peterson
Marc - my thoughts, too! I know if will fade a little bit over time, but should not be so severe.Minh, no, these are a new and full set that Paul sent to the anodizer for me! I did pay extra for that, but it was a nominal fee, I thought. They don’t usually do the entire brake, usually levers and barrel adjustors, I think, but we got wild and decided to do the whole kit. We just have to be careful setting them up, but then it should be fine and shouldn’t mark up the posts.On Jan 12, 2024, at 11:58 AM, Minh  wrote:pretty cool, so they did not have fully made parts but were able to sell you a box of partial parts to mix and match your own?  i"m guessing this is a little too labor intensive to make a regular thing but very nice of them to still be able to do this. On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 11:55:49 AM UTC-5 Marc Irwin wrote:If Paul did the anodizing, this time it will be right!MarcOn Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers came with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did get my VO brake levers anodized, but that batch of rose pink ano faded freakishly fast and everything was silver 4 months later. But I’m giving it another chance. Everyone talks about Paul, and Paul sometimes offers their parts in pretty, anodized colors, but currently, they do not. I emailed the company, asking if they happened to have any of their pink levers laying around that they would be willing to sell me. I got an email back from Paul, like THE Paul, who directed me to an employee I won’t name here. He and I got in contact and he was so fun, right from the start. We chatted and he looked at my bikes (I sent him my pics via email) and we made a plan. We colored it all. The bolts, the brake body, the levers, the barrel adjustors ALL of it. The parts came in 3 boxes, plus one extra little envelope. The envelope had a small personalized gift from my new friend at Paul, just because, with a handwritten note in the prettiest handwriting I’ve ever seen. Swoon! I opened the first box and it was wrapped like origami inside. I uncovered the first gorgeous pieces and the breath left my body. So beautiful. Quality even a novice can’t miss. Just what I wanted. Rich, rose color. I would need to be with bike people to get the full joy out of this experience. My bike shop knows about Paul Components. A blizzard is on its way to Michigan and I knew my shop would not be busy. I put the pieces back in the box, loaded the boxes and my bike in the van and drove to the shop. I came in and there were 4 mechanics and zero customers. “Guys!” I said, “I have a fun project for us to do, and I can’t do it without you! Who wants to see what is in these boxes?” So there we were on company time, hovering over these immaculate little parcels, oohing and aahhing. There was extra swag in there, stuff I had never seen. “What’s this?” I asked, holding up a flat, wooden thing with Paul emblems. “It’s a carpenter’s pencil,” said the mechanic. I gave it to him.I left the bike with them and I should have it in the next couple/few days, depending on how long the blizzard rages for. Not that I’ll get to ride and try those beautiful Paul parts out; we are getting up to a foot of snow! For now they are only a visual treat. I can’t even imagine how enamored I will be when I get to actually USE the brakes. And what nice people. I was not expecting them to be so personable! I have heard they are a small operation, but they are famous in their own right - celebrity machinists, really - yet so kind to a layperson like me.Here’s the photo I got before the parts shipped. “Whatcha think?” he asked. Oh, he knew. He knew he knocked it straight outta the park.Leah 



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Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-11 Thread Leah Peterson
Big time APPROVE?! I have seen APPROVE before from Bill Lindsay but I don’t think there has been Big time APPROVE. This is an honor! I should get a tee shirt made. A tattoo. Something.♥️LeahOn Jan 11, 2024, at 8:50 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:That's very good stuff right there.  Big time APPROVEBL in ECOn Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 5:28:30 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers came with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did get my VO brake levers anodized, but that batch of rose pink ano faded freakishly fast and everything was silver 4 months later. But I’m giving it another chance. Everyone talks about Paul, and Paul sometimes offers their parts in pretty, anodized colors, but currently, they do not. I emailed the company, asking if they happened to have any of their pink levers laying around that they would be willing to sell me. I got an email back from Paul, like THE Paul, who directed me to an employee I won’t name here. He and I got in contact and he was so fun, right from the start. We chatted and he looked at my bikes (I sent him my pics via email) and we made a plan. We colored it all. The bolts, the brake body, the levers, the barrel adjustors ALL of it. The parts came in 3 boxes, plus one extra little envelope. The envelope had a small personalized gift from my new friend at Paul, just because, with a handwritten note in the prettiest handwriting I’ve ever seen. Swoon! I opened the first box and it was wrapped like origami inside. I uncovered the first gorgeous pieces and the breath left my body. So beautiful. Quality even a novice can’t miss. Just what I wanted. Rich, rose color. I would need to be with bike people to get the full joy out of this experience. My bike shop knows about Paul Components. A blizzard is on its way to Michigan and I knew my shop would not be busy. I put the pieces back in the box, loaded the boxes and my bike in the van and drove to the shop. I came in and there were 4 mechanics and zero customers. “Guys!” I said, “I have a fun project for us to do, and I can’t do it without you! Who wants to see what is in these boxes?” So there we were on company time, hovering over these immaculate little parcels, oohing and aahhing. There was extra swag in there, stuff I had never seen. “What’s this?” I asked, holding up a flat, wooden thing with Paul emblems. “It’s a carpenter’s pencil,” said the mechanic. I gave it to him.I left the bike with them and I should have it in the next couple/few days, depending on how long the blizzard rages for. Not that I’ll get to ride and try those beautiful Paul parts out; we are getting up to a foot of snow! For now they are only a visual treat. I can’t even imagine how enamored I will be when I get to actually USE the brakes. And what nice people. I was not expecting them to be so personable! I have heard they are a small operation, but they are famous in their own right - celebrity machinists, really - yet so kind to a layperson like me.Here’s the photo I got before the parts shipped. “Whatcha think?” he asked. Oh, he knew. He knew he knocked it straight outta the park.Leah 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

2024-01-11 Thread Leah Peterson
Welcome to the Platypus Club, friend! It is great to hear how well the bike is working out for you and reading about the Riv magic you’re experiencing. I really have not found the weakness of the Platypus. It’s pretty perfect. I like your modifications, as well. It will be enjoyable to watch you change it up and adapt it to your riding style. Post pics now and then, when you think of it!Leah On Jan 11, 2024, at 12:38 PM, tio ryan  wrote:After years of admiration, I finally talked myself into purchasing a 50cm Platypus complete (Sergio Green) back in November. It arrived mid-December and brought my current fleet of bikes to 3, each with a different wheel size: 26", 700c, and now 650b. This purchase was also my first brand new complete bicycle in over 25 years. I chose the complete since I liked the cranks/wheels, but knowing how much I like to tinker I should have realized it wouldn't stay that way for long. I rode the bike stock for a short while before eventually changing out the shifters, brakes, bars/stem, seatpost, and adding on a campee rack, kickstand, and most recently, sks bluemels. I also swapped the chainrings for my preferred biopace style in a 44/28 combo with a front derailer delete since I don't need it right now (and the stock one is ugly). With these changes, this bike is beginning to feel like 'my own' and I've never owned such a nice bicycle! Here's a photo of how mine looks currently: Bars: Nitto Albatross w/ Control Tech extensionsShifter: Suntour Power RatchetBrakes: Shimano DXR MX70Pedals: Simworks Taco It took me a minute to realize the easiest way to carry the bike up to my 3rd floor apartment is by shouldering it through the rear triangle. Since learning this, I've had no problem getting the bike in and out of my apartment, despite it's longer length. My favourite modification is the upside down shoulder bag that I copied from Roman. Combined with the kickstand, it provides the perfect place to rest my feet while seated on a bench. At traffic lights, it's a very comfortable place to sit! I am absolutely loving this bike and I'm ecstatic to finally own a Riv. On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 9:41:29 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:My Platypus complete in Sergio's Green has landed. Swapped out the Tosco bars for Billies. Installing a Sims Obento front rack and basket next. I've got a long wait until spring! On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 9:17:00 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote:What a delight for your wife to see this under the Christmas tree!SarahOn Monday, January 8, 2024 at 11:13:52 AM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:Should have reported back sooner but the bike did come in time for Christmas. On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote:Joe! Don't get shiny ball syndrome! You have a most excellent frame on its way to you!On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 9:50:23 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:It's so exciting! I can't wait to see your new Purple Platy and all the other new bikes out there. Gosh, now I kinda wish *I* was getting a new frame... 樂Joe " wishin' and hopin' " Bernard On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 5:47:48 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:They are trickling in. Mine arrives Wednesday. I hope you get your wife’s in time! On Dec 10, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Josh C  wrote:I was just going to ask if anyone had received theirs yet. Hoping to put my wife's under the tree...or near it I guess. On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:52:52 PM UTC-4 Arthur Mayfield wrote:My Mermaid Platypus 55 frame arrived today (apparently found in their stock from last year). This is an elegant bike-to-be! All you who ordered frames or bikes have a real treat coming! I’m waiting for wheels to be built, so plenty of time for frame-saving the tubes and ceramic coating the paint before building it up. I already had a B-68 and crankset, derailleurs, cassettes, brakes, stem, bars, racks, fenders, etc, so it will go together quickly when the wheels get here. I have a blue Sam 52 (caliper brakes, 650B) in really nice condition that will likely go on the market when I get the Platypus put together, btw. I’m in NC.On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 7:51:25 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:Peter, great info re: the Mardi Gras colors! I'm thinking of gold + green, harlequin-style, for the purple bike. (I'm also remembering the smell of sweet olive blossoms and the taste of a real beignet and the sound of Preservation Hall...my mom was born there and I love to visit!)S.On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:00 PM Peter Adler  wrote:Green + purple + yellow = Mardi Gras bike. Go to New Orleans during the season, and all the plastic beads thrown from the parade floats are in those three colors. Maybe yellow bar tape or water bottles.Peter "laisse les bons temps rouler sur vélo" AdlerBerkeley, CAOn Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:04:20 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:I’m hoping to snag a 50cm green complete for my wife. I’ve had several Rivs and she’s never had the experience. She’s 

Re: [RBW] Re: New Year's Day, NBD!

2024-01-04 Thread Leah Peterson
Jason, I never thought the day would come, either. I left Joe with one top tube smudge so he can never forget it was my bike first. 藍 If you end up with that Clem one day it will be a story too good to tell. How funny! I loved that bike but it wasn’t getting enough miles, and I hate to see a Rivendell not ridden. I might regret it when I’m 80, but for now, I’ve got some new plans in the works! Joe, report back on your adventures, hear?LOn Jan 4, 2024, at 9:24 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:I never thought I'd see the day that Leah parted with the blue Clem, but I absolutely would have predicted that if it happened, Joe would buy it!  :DIt's fun to watch its journey though different hands, in different places, all with the common goal of making fond memories aboard the common bike. Maybe it'll end up with me next?  Wouldn't be the first time I bought a bike from Joe ... On Wednesday 3 January 2024 at 07:49:09 UTC-8 rsb...@msn.com wrote:Took a new years day ride on my Hillborne. Went up to Conowingo dam and back along the Susquehanna river. This sign was new so I thought I would get a photo. Watch out for vultures.On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 8:59:27 AM UTC-5 Kim H. wrote:@Joe,I think the close-up photo makes it looks bigger than it is.  I have 57mm tires on my 52cm, but they appear to be smaller in width. You are going to love the ride and feel of the elongated chain stays and bike, 80 inches worth. Kim Hetzel.On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 10:06:32 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:Leah: It's a wonderful bike whose journey I've followed for years, it feels like an old friend arrived at my doorstep. Thanks so much!Kim: It's a 52, it just looks huge in the photos with 42mm tires. But it's a loong 52, I've owned shorter recumbents! On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 9:27:53 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:Congratulations Joe on your NBD on New Year's Day !  The RBW Blue is such a fantastic color. 
She is a beauty !  I am sure that you are, if not already have fallen in love with it. Every time I walk by mine here in my home,  a 52cm Blue Clem, I admire it every time. I am very delighted to own one. What size is it ?  59cm ? ..or ?I am certain that you will find it a real fun bike on and off road.I'm looking forward to your periodical ride reports in and around Clear Lake.Long my you ride with smiles and joy in your heart.All my best,Kim Hetzel.On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 9:03:48 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Surprise! And happy NBD. You really know how to ring in the new year. From NYC, to Las Vegas, to Michigan and now to California this bike has lived quite a life and doesn’t look any worse for the wear, I’d say.Enjoy and put some marks on that thing.LeahOn Monday, January 1, 2024 at 11:40:17 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:Remember Leah's lovely shimmery blue Clem L? Now it's MY lovely shimmery blue Clem L! This is pre-racked and bagged and all that (and there's an errant black brake cable cuz I'm waiting for a long gray one) but I wanted to show off my new-to-me bike. It's wonderful, I love it Joe BernardLake County CA



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Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day—Retirement Bike

2023-12-27 Thread Leah Peterson
Yes, all of what Andy said. I have never said these words but I FEEL them after reading his post. What a lovely thought, that your bike is the culmination of all of your riding experiences. I’m going to think about this for awhile…And, I also concur that the bike deserves a better moniker. I’ll also think on THAT.LOn Dec 27, 2023, at 6:32 AM, ascpgh  wrote:Fantastic Roberta!A bike is the sum of its parts. More accurately, a sum of the stories of all the parts that they represent to you. It validates all of your past riding by developing preferences and aesthetics of parts you may not have been keenly aware of before 2017. Most production (boxed) bikes are specified for price point by choosing lower level parts for the bits most riders aren't familiar with or don't notice. Building a bike like yours is deeply rewarding and culminates all of your efforts, experiences and gained knowledge.It's not a "retirement bike", it's a bike to provide for your "not working 8 hours of each day anymore bike". In that role your Betty Foy appears ready for all uses, your pictures even show a wet ground, validating fenders and flaps before you've even posted an initial ride report.Makes me think of the Dr. Seuss classic, Oh, the Places You'll Go.Andy CheathamPittsburghOn Monday, December 25, 2023 at 8:40:01 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:What’s old is new: 
circa 2010 Betty Foy!Let me explain why this and not a custom I was hoping for.

For the past nearly three years, I’ve been “next up” on
Rivendell’s list for a custom retirement bike, something I’ve wanted since I
found Rivendell in 2017.  I wanted something
1) like my 55cm Platypus, but shorter (I didn’t say short, just short-er) specifically so I could take it on
the city bus bike rack and Amtrak, that 2) fits and rides like my 2019 54.5 Homer.    

During one of our many conversations, the ever so patient
Vince suggested a Betty Foy.  When I saw
one posted on RBW’s Craigslist thread, I drove to Brooklyn, test rode and brought
it home, and thanked the RBW poster.  I
think this bike is from the first batch of Betty’s because only one heart lug
was (notice the past tense) filled in and the seat tube is 58cm.  The color is not robin’s egg blue, but more of
a sage/teal, which I like more.

It’s about as close to a custom as I think Grant would have
built for me—650b wheels, just under the Amtrak length limit by ½”, fits on our
city bus bike racks, rides great and no toe overlap.  Perhaps not a cushy as my Platypus with its extra-long
wheelbase, but if I’m on my Betty, I have more options for mass
transportation.  The only thing I wish it
had was an additional water bottle mount, but I remedied that with a water
bottle bag on the handlebar, big enough to hold a 40 oz Kleen Kanteen.

1X9 Drive train (38T Wolf Tooth in front with Microshift
Aventex in back), Albatross handlebar, brakes (Tektro R553)  and Gravel King Slick tires are as I purchased
the bike.I added “extras”—SKS fenders
with custom mud flaps (made by a little girl whose Dad is on the iBob board https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob/c/M_iDE82EhkI/m/FZG8bZzMAQAJ
), red Ergon grips and Newbaum’s tape for pop of color, German mirrors, Greenfield
kickstand, 32 spoke Velocity A23 rims with tubeless setup, and Dyno lighting SP
hub with Edulux light on front and B Topline Plus light in the back.  Bitex hub in the rear. Axiom rack.  Brooks B68 saddle in honey, but I might try
the newly re-issued B72 albeit in brown.

Keystone Bike https://keystone.bike/ did amazing
work with the extras, and featured the bike on their IG page a few weeks ago. https://www.instagram.com/p/C0WqS6_OzqA/?img_index=1
.   If you’re ever in Philadelphia, I
highly recommend a stop at their shop. 
They understand Rivendells (and even own a few).

I did do one way-over-the-top (for me, at least) item—I had all
the hearts paint matched and filled by a meticulous and true professional—Lek, https://www.instagram.com/lekerleks/
, who also builds Albacore handlebars available at https://hopecyclery.com/ .  My favorite heart is the one on the back side
of the seat tube—an “Easter egg” that I see every time I use my basket, which
is every ride.  I asked him to fill in
the hearts and he returned the bike saying “I just did every open lug window I
saw—hearts, circles and dots.”  WOW!









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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter exercise switch-up for bike riders

2023-12-22 Thread Leah Peterson
I do. I do bug her. We have Marco Polo so we video message every day, so I’ve had plenty of chances. She is a long-suffering woman, is Roberta. I have a 103 week workout streak on Apple Fitness and maybe I just really want someone else to be on it so I can say, “Ugh, did you do that upper body workout today? Greg nearly killed me.” And then they would tell me what they did, and so on and so forth. There are new workouts every week and I get so excited on Monday when they drop and I can see what I’ll be doing for the week…Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 22, 2023, at 1:17 PM, Roberta  wrote:I can ride in the winter, but choose to go only if 35 - 40 degrees or warmer and the sun is shining.  Basically, that means going from commuting every day to riding on most weekends, only.Walking, hiking and I'll be starting weight lifting soon.  I might get back into yoga.  I did love that.I did an internet session with Tim on LytYoga a couple of years ago and thought it was terrific!  I like that they train their teachers and the developer of the system is a PT.  There are so many yoga "teachers" that just shout out the next pose and don't help at all.  When my local hatha yoga
studio, with trained and knowledgeable teachers, closed, I stopped.  My body has been unhappy since.Leah has been bugging me to sign up for Apple fitness.  Like her and Bubba, I like the "tell me what to do and I'll do it" process.  Here in Philadelphia Orange Theory gets fantastic reviews.  They are a bit too far away for me, though.RobertaOn Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 10:07:09 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:A good friend once said: 'If it doesn't end in a cord of wood or a barn full of hay, it ain't exercise!' I would add a cleared driveway. Ha!Winter around here brings lots of snow and the following exercise: clearing a 450m driveway (Thank you Honda!), splitting wood (Thank you Blaze King!), skiing (downhill, cross-country, touring), snowshoeing, and yoga. And, my lovely wife loves to bake, so basically all this keeps my muscles from atrophying and my waistline at a net-zero.Cheers, JohnOn Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 5:12:18 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote:Well I live among hills, lots of hills, nothing but hills ! So I go walky walky, on the roads and through the forest, up and down and all around. I live outside the city so this small subdivision of homes has always been closer to rural than any semblance of an organized neighborhood. It's a free for all in that people can do most anything with their land. Basically the woods are my back yard so in winter I can venture in where in summer it's a jungle. Of course I'm riding then, so it works out perfectly as in fall all that jungle tumbles down. I generally follow animal trails, hey, they know where they're going ! On a topo map this whole area looks like closely spaced spider veins, basically all feeding the Ohio River, eventually. I like the serenity of the woods as it's just me and wildlife, it's a nice change of pace from riding on the road, or riding at all. I exert myself as needed to stay warm but no more, as sweating the cold is no fun. I can stop wherever and whenever, rock hop along the creeks, duck beneath or slide over the fallen trees. The terrain is so varied, so wild, it's fun being able to be so creative as to where to place your feet. Find a certain rhythm and I feel like I'm just gliding along.  My high spot is atop a hill where there is a very tall AEP Power company tower. I can see forever up there, all the layers of the hills and valleys. When we have winter snow squalls come in from the NW, it's especially awesome as you see the various small pockets of snow falling off in the distance, often while the Sun is shinning. They're like little snow filled clouds that touch the ground. Five minutes layer I''m in a snow globe. Hah !  Then it's gone, with more on the way. Those are some of the most wonderful walks of all. Anytime its snows is magic, I can't explain why, it just is. I don't consider myself an athlete at all, hah hah. I'm more like someone who does athletic things because I love doing them in the way I do them. I love bike riding for the way I can ride it, as walking for the way I can walk. It's everything, the only thing ! On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 12:22:10 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:I bend an elbow and walk the dog.  Oh, and if there's any snow, there's shoveling to be done.On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 10:22:37 AM UTC-6 Tim Bantham wrote:I live in Upstate NY, not too far Leah from our friends at Analog Cycles . This translates to lots of snow, long winters and a lot of time off the bike. I do ride indoors on Zwift but the real game changer for me has been yoga. I practice LYT yoga. It was designed by a physical therapist and is rooted in kinesiology. It focuses on  postural alignment, better movement habits and a strong mind body connection.  I've been practicing LYT almost daily for a few years now. I like it so much that I even got my 200 hour teacher 

Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

2023-12-10 Thread Leah Peterson
They are trickling in. Mine arrives Wednesday. I hope you get your wife’s in time! On Dec 10, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Josh C  wrote:I was just going to ask if anyone had received theirs yet. Hoping to put my wife's under the tree...or near it I guess. On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:52:52 PM UTC-4 Arthur Mayfield wrote:My Mermaid Platypus 55 frame arrived today (apparently found in their stock from last year). This is an elegant bike-to-be! All you who ordered frames or bikes have a real treat coming! I’m waiting for wheels to be built, so plenty of time for frame-saving the tubes and ceramic coating the paint before building it up. I already had a B-68 and crankset, derailleurs, cassettes, brakes, stem, bars, racks, fenders, etc, so it will go together quickly when the wheels get here. I have a blue Sam 52 (caliper brakes, 650B) in really nice condition that will likely go on the market when I get the Platypus put together, btw. I’m in NC.On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 7:51:25 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:Peter, great info re: the Mardi Gras colors! I'm thinking of gold + green, harlequin-style, for the purple bike. (I'm also remembering the smell of sweet olive blossoms and the taste of a real beignet and the sound of Preservation Hall...my mom was born there and I love to visit!)S.On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:00 PM Peter Adler  wrote:Green + purple + yellow = Mardi Gras bike. Go to New Orleans during the season, and all the plastic beads thrown from the parade floats are in those three colors. Maybe yellow bar tape or water bottles.Peter "laisse les bons temps rouler sur vélo" AdlerBerkeley, CAOn Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:04:20 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:I’m hoping to snag a 50cm green complete for my wife. I’ve had several Rivs and she’s never had the experience. She’s mentioned several times that a step-through style bike interests her. She has some purple Paul bits on her current bike that I think will look nice with the green instead of two different purples. 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Anna Purple

2023-11-26 Thread Leah Peterson
Allegedly - I think the shipment is held up getting seated by the FBI! And of course I won’t be able to ride/enjoy the bike until spring. So, whenever it gets here, I guess.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 26, 2023, at 11:44 AM, Ryan  wrote:So I take it the 50 purple Is on its wayOn Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 8:59:53 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have been wanting to try a 50 cm Platypus. Not that I would part with my 55 Platys, but I can’t take them traveling, and I have some rides in mind for the coming year that would be made possible if I could get my bike on a train. Well, I am technically in PBH range for a 50 Platy, and my RivSisters tell me they can get theirs on buses and trains in the 50 size.So, I dispatched RivSister Sarah (of Primrose Platy fame) to HQ to tell me how a 50 would ride, since we are the exact same PBH and nearly the same height. She came back with rave reports about the bike and so I had a decision to make. I was hesitant about the purple. Purple has not made my top list of favorite colors. I thought I should go Sergio Green, but I have a mermaid Platypus already. If I’m going to have 3 of the same model, I do want them to look and feel a little different from each other. 2 greens - no.In the end, I selected the purple. It is fun. I am typing this to you on my flight home from NYC, where purple is all the rage, currently. I have a newfound admiration for purple. My parts will be pulled from my shimmery blue Clem, a wild concoction of jewel toned parts, and slapped on that bold purple for a truly one-of-a-kind look. The wilder, the better. And why not. WHY NOT. Sending this now, before the plane takes off and I lose my internet!On Nov 22, 2023, at 9:25 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Bill Lindsay, would you stop parading that "smoke" purple Legolas in front of me? Trying to make me jealous? (Kidding aside, there could not be a nicer looking bike, IMHO.)Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 2:57:09 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:My purple Rivendell is pretty different from most other purple Rivendells.  I was going for a "mineral purple" and the name of the shade is Amethyst Smoke.  https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/51310826119/in/photolist-26anPuR-2iHBJM3-2iHDjYZ-2mbaoXRBill "smoke 'em if you got 'em" LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Friday, November 17, 2023 at 6:34:41 AM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:Curious what folks think of the Riv frames in purple. I personally am on the fence. I keep looking at it and can't decide if I would like it or not. I would be perfectly fine with any of the other Riv colors but the purple is a bit polarizing to me. Of course I am betting it looks great in person. Thoughts? 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Anna Purple

2023-11-19 Thread Leah Peterson
Not with a long stem, and albatross bars it won’t. I have Billie bars and a 10 cm stem on my 55 and I wish for a tiny bit more reach. But I can’t have it unless I ditch my extra tall stem and they don’t make it any longer than 10 cm. So I have the saddle pushed back. The smaller Platy will fit on public transportation and is technically in my PBH range. You remembered right!Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 19, 2023, at 10:30 PM, J  wrote:Someone may have mentioned this already, but didn't Leah have issues with not being able to get her seat back far enough to get reach and hand position comfy on her current size 55 Platypus? Maybe I'm remembering wrong,  but it seems a size 50 will amplify that same issue? On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 5:19:54 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:Dang, that really is pretty ain't it? I thought I wasn't into purple..I've changed my mind! On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 2:15:53 PM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:You can view BlueLug's own studio photography of the ana purple platypus frame here for another take: https://global.bluelug.com/rivendell-platypus-frame-set-ana-purple.html On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 9:01:37 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:You will likely need to swap out the stem but other than that most should cross right over. Hold on to the Clem frame until you are positive that the 50cm will work for you and there is little risk. If it works sell the Clem and if it doesn't sell the Platy frame. On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 11:38:54 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I am seriously thinking of an Ana Purple Platy in the 50 cm size. I love my 55s but they are too big to take on planes and trains. I would have chosen the Sergio Green but I have mermaid already and I like it better. I don’t want two similar colors in my trio. I was looking at purple Riv images yesterday and saw this one:This leads me to believe the purple has a little more personality that what most of the photos show. And, I do know Ana and she has said her bike shines magenta in sunlight.If I do this, the parts from my wild Clem will get thrown onto this purple frame. And it will either be my best idea or a spectacular failure. What I know it will be is this: a real riot of color.LeahOn Nov 18, 2023, at 10:00 PM, Armand Kizirian  wrote:I have ordered an Ana Purple Platypus Complete in the latest presale. I have many opinions on the color. First, if you want safe, the Sergio green was there for the taking. Classic, timeless, classy, non-offensive, gender-neutral, and provides a neutral base color to accessorize with. Brown vs black saddle/grips? Both will work equally well. The metallic flake does not hurt either. Now down to the purple. I have mentioned previously here that I find the purple to be a bit flat and too saturated. These are my observations after viewing an embarrassing (not really, we're all bike nerds here) amount of photographs of Ana Purple rivs. Purple, is an incredibly dynamic color, given it can find many different shades as you add more red or blue to it (adjacent colors on the color wheel). Ana Purple seems to be smack dab a 50/50 blend of blue and red, which, in my opinion, is so-so on the fun/originality scale. Add to that the dark shade of the saturation and it's a bit much! I mean, purple can (and often should) be loud. If it was a lighter shade to the point of lavender, it would not be as gender neutral.  I personally think if some metallic flake (silver or other colors) was added with a hint lighter of a shade it would be much nicer. So, why did I order an Ana Purple Platypus at 12:01PM with the option of Sergio Green for the taking? Fun factor. Now, I'm a 33 year old male with some rather hyper-masculine features. I have no issue with presenting a bit more feminine (3-5" inseam short shorts please) and challenging gender norms. Coupled with the step through design, I'm sure I will get a lot of, "but isn't that a woman's bike?"...Confusing passerbys or challenging their idea of what type of bike a hyper masculine looking man rides is part of the fun. I'm sure I will come to appreciate it and grow fond of it overtime as I witness the color in different light and scenes. I also wish for this to be a bike that any of my friends, male or female, can ride and have a blast on. I plan on letting the Purple stand out in the palette. Yes I ordered a complete, but that is simply for my immediate pleasure before I strip it to the frame with my spec of parts. I plan on silver components, many of them Paul, which provide the opportunity to add little purple anodized accents. Think polished brakes/levers, but purple/black barrel adjusters or brake spring holders. Black leather saddle/grips with hints of brass here and there. Make a palette of complementary-ish colors and choose mismatched Nissen cable housing to match. Lots of little details like Forager cable cherries or fun bar tape in-line with the intentionally designed palette.You get the jist, my designer 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-11-19 Thread Leah Peterson
Excellent kit and you look amazing. I love the bike style posts and am so tickled every time I get one!Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 19, 2023, at 9:29 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:Today's cool but not too cold ride was with Randi Jo wool cap, wool button up from Anian, and the buckskin gloves that Ron & Arya brand and resell - which, for the record, are awesome! All of this kit is excellent - warm and pretty water resistant as well. On Sunday, 5 November 2023 at 12:48:30 UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:I'll try to remember to take a photo of the knickers (not of me) when it's next cold enough to wear them. They are very, very comfortable and nice looking.Balmy upper 60s on today's ride home wearing my new (to me) bright green Cheviot cap while riding a forest green Matthews.On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 10:20 AM RichS  wrote:Patrick,+1 on your church going cycling attire. The description is vivid enough so I can clearly see it. Your warm weather sartorial choices are impressive as well.I need to up my game and enhance my decade old Rivendell knickers. Thanks for the inspiration:-)Best,Rich in ATL  On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:28:12 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:I broke out my oh, so elegant! grey flannel cycling knickers* last Sunday for the ride to church, matched with Rick's (Reisemberg) medium-dark grey knee socks and a charcoal grey merino mock turtleneck pullover under a navy Wabi Woolen LS jersey cunningly made into a light cycling jacket with the (very professional) addition of a full-length zipper. Shoes should have been Dromartis, but I use plain black canvas Specialized SPD shoes because they have a wide toe box and a flat bottom, better for standing during 2+ hour liturgies. Topped off with ironically-retro, deliberately jarring green-and-red Legnano cycling cap; not quite cold enough for ear flaps. Only 1 person did a double take at the knickers.Must take a fashion shot.But temps have risen almost 20* this week, so it looks like I'll be back to the light nylon REI roll-up-legs-and-snap-in-place pants and cotton collared shirt this Sunday.Much more casually, this afternoon, temp about 72* with moderate wind, wore a blue and white wool ss jersey with Italian lycra arm warmers over black Rapha Randonee shorts. Black ankle socks with catchy "Route 66" graphic and late 1980s/1990s Shimano 3-strap SPD shoes and custom cycling cap from Little Packet, no longer in business.* Very tastefully converted from a very nice pair of Nordstrom wool dress flannels with nylon wind panels on inside front and replaceable matched-color wear panel on seat and crotch.I have to say: I've spent considerable bucks on very many supposedly purpose-designed riding pants, knickers and long pants, and I have never had a pair of cycling pants that fit as well and are so well adapted to pedaling as converted dress pants, with the high waist and roomy -- not baggy; not 1950s -- cut. They come up high enough in back that you don't have that continual exposed skin anxiety, and they just feel much more comfortable. So many knickers and pants designed for cycling, so they say, are simply cut too low in the back and just feel uncomfortable, and I'm very trim. I've owned I think 4 pairs of dress-pant conversion cycling knickers and I wish I'd not sold 2 of the other 3 pairs. Patrick "not quite as serious as you might think" MooreOn Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 4:17 PM DavidP  wrote:Another knickers fan for spring/fall riding. My outfit today was perfect for the cool, crisp temps and reasonably coordinated (merino sweater, Zoic Reign knickers, Vans checkerboard socks).



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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Lime Olive 50 cm Platypus frame

2023-11-14 Thread Leah Peterson
Oh, you’re judging, alright. In my favor, like you do! Cheering me on from Judgerstan, hoping someone makes my silly dreams come true!Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 14, 2023, at 12:14 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:"And no, I’m not selling my 55 Platys. I just need more sizes! And colors. Whatever. Don’t judge."I'm so judging. Judgey McJudgeface from Judgerstan 類On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 7:07:59 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:And no, I’m not selling my 55 Platys. I just need more sizes! And colors. Whatever. Don’t judge.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

2023-11-12 Thread Leah Peterson
Bill - I measure my 55 Platy about 75”, end to end.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 12, 2023, at 2:31 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:Garth, are you saying you’re sending me a Betty?! Because I would NOT be sad! 藍On Nov 12, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Garth  wrote:Maybe the Betty like the one you sold(or similar) is on it's way to your front door :)A smaller Platy also comes with less frame reach and bar height potential. Since you're already at the max stem height and length , going to a smaller frame doesn't work for you. Neither does a high rise bar like the Bosco since it comes back further than bar you currently have. On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 1:23:07 PM UTC-5 allan@gmail.com wrote:Two additional data points…Wife has 80PBH50cm Rosco Platy (Circa 2022)LOA 182cm (71.5”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 72.5” LOA)I have 87 PBH58cm Yves/Betty LOA 176cm (69.25”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 70”LOA)Allan, in Marlboro, VTOn Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:03:10 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:Bill requests: 3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank youTotal end-to-end length of 52cm Wilbury and 52cm Glorius is between 67.5" and 68", both with 42mm 650b and fenders. The slight difference is due to different fenders.On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:20:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:LeahMy recommendation for an alternative set of academic questions would include the following:1.  YOU own a 52cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you2.  YOU own a 55cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank youI think it would be HOT if you had a sporty short wheelbase Riv step-through in your ARSENAL.  Mrs Bubba used to own a 52cm Gomez, but now she's on a 50cm Platy and it's not actively for sale.  Although if you were eager to lease it for an extended period, I bet she could be convinced.  Hers is Mermaid, and its full end to end length is 72 inches, plus or minus a quarter-inch, with 650B x 48 Rene Herse knobbies and no fenders.Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe not. I’ve done crazier things. Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl can have.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

2023-11-12 Thread Leah Peterson
Garth, are you saying you’re sending me a Betty?! Because I would NOT be sad! 藍On Nov 12, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Garth  wrote:Maybe the Betty like the one you sold(or similar) is on it's way to your front door :)A smaller Platy also comes with less frame reach and bar height potential. Since you're already at the max stem height and length , going to a smaller frame doesn't work for you. Neither does a high rise bar like the Bosco since it comes back further than bar you currently have. On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 1:23:07 PM UTC-5 allan@gmail.com wrote:Two additional data points…Wife has 80PBH50cm Rosco Platy (Circa 2022)LOA 182cm (71.5”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 72.5” LOA)I have 87 PBH58cm Yves/Betty LOA 176cm (69.25”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 70”LOA)Allan, in Marlboro, VTOn Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:03:10 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:Bill requests: 3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank youTotal end-to-end length of 52cm Wilbury and 52cm Glorius is between 67.5" and 68", both with 42mm 650b and fenders. The slight difference is due to different fenders.On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:20:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:LeahMy recommendation for an alternative set of academic questions would include the following:1.  YOU own a 52cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you2.  YOU own a 55cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank youI think it would be HOT if you had a sporty short wheelbase Riv step-through in your ARSENAL.  Mrs Bubba used to own a 52cm Gomez, but now she's on a 50cm Platy and it's not actively for sale.  Although if you were eager to lease it for an extended period, I bet she could be convinced.  Hers is Mermaid, and its full end to end length is 72 inches, plus or minus a quarter-inch, with 650B x 48 Rene Herse knobbies and no fenders.Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe not. I’ve done crazier things. Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl can have.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

2023-11-12 Thread Leah Peterson
Yeah, Sarah, I support this idea! Do we have the same PBH? I seem to remember do. 81cm for me…On Nov 12, 2023, at 11:26 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:Go ride it, Sarah! I'm the same height as y'all and I rode the first 50cm prototype, it felt great. On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 7:01:01 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote:Hey RivSister, want me to got test ride the 50 for you? I know we both like an oversize frame so this could be an interesting experiment for both of usOn Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 6:55:49 AM UTC-8 Howard Hatten wrote:Since you already own a few step thru-step over rivs maybe you might want to consider adding a Sam Hillborne to the stable. You never know, someday you might want to try a drop bar cockpit on your group ride machine. Your chariot would be waiting. HowardLivonia MiOn Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 9:16:07 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:If I were in your situation I'd be tempted to get a folder.  PBH would not be an issue because they have very long seat posts.  Some models are equipped with more upright bars such as you're used to using.  They come with a variety of different types of gearing and ranges.  And, of course, they are step-though by definition.  That could be your travel bike and you'd be able to get around any issues that some trains have with carry-on bikes.On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe not. I’ve done crazier things. Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl can have.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

2023-11-11 Thread Leah Peterson
Oh, good idea. How many people will actually take the time though? Well, Joe will! I can count on him! Also, I’d love to have a hot, sporty short WB Riv in my arsenal! It’s even more attractive when you put it that way!  Mostly if I could pull my Clem parts and slap them on there. We’ll see. If I did get a Platy I’d want to do lime olive because one cannot have TWO mermaid Platys. I draw the line!On Nov 11, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:LeahMy recommendation for an alternative set of academic questions would include the following:1.  YOU own a 52cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you2.  YOU own a 55cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank youI think it would be HOT if you had a sporty short wheelbase Riv step-through in your ARSENAL.  Mrs Bubba used to own a 52cm Gomez, but now she's on a 50cm Platy and it's not actively for sale.  Although if you were eager to lease it for an extended period, I bet she could be convinced.  Hers is Mermaid, and its full end to end length is 72 inches, plus or minus a quarter-inch, with 650B x 48 Rene Herse knobbies and no fenders.Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe not. I’ve done crazier things. Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl can have.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

2023-10-21 Thread Leah Peterson
I’m still so elated over it, Marc. As happy as you are! Our next chapter: The Lone Wolf and the Platypus Rider Ride Their Mixtes.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 21, 2023, at 11:32 AM, Marc Irwin  wrote:Thanks to you I don't need to.Marc<20231004_121716.jpg><20231004_133008.jpg>On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 9:40:42 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:The preorder email was sent out today! Did you read it? Lots of completes for sale but only 24 frames.Set to arrive end of November. Sad you’ll have to wait so long. Who is getting one?What color?What plans for the bike?I just had a gorgeous 27 miles on my mermaid Platy today. Sublimely comfortable. Plenty fast. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

2023-10-20 Thread Leah Peterson
I am also surprised there are so many frames left. And we don’t know how many completes we started with so not sure how many sold. But the 55 Sergio complete is long gone and some of the other sizes and colors of the completes are dwindling. At any rate, I am so excited for more people to experience the Platypus. There is something special that goes into the Riv mixtes. I think of my RivSisters who have been riding theirs into the finest beausage - Pam Murray, on her 47 cm Betty which is approaching 75,000 miles since 2011, Ana Candela on her custom PurpleRiv, and Caroline Golum, whose Betty rival’s Pam’s. I hope to be among them one day, but my Platys are still young. I enjoy every single ride and I never get enough. Please post your new bikes when you can, friends. I’m so happy for you.LeahOn Oct 20, 2023, at 8:29 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:Congrats to both you and your wife!Will said he felt like it would be a quick sell especially on the frames alone but it appears there is still stock of the frames. He said they were only getting like 20-some of those. Either sales have finally come way down from their peak OR (and probably pretty likely) Will was way too good at pumping the value of the completes and most people went for those.  I admit they are fairly nice builds. There were lots of things I wanted to change on my Clem but honestly most of whats on that complete Platy I would probably keep.On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 7:08:29 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:Got the 50cm ordered. Now we wait. I’m the meantime I think I’ll sit down with her and see which bits she’s like to use on this build to make it her own so that I can start looking around for them. On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:39:09 AM UTC-4 schralp wrote:I was in a similar situation last year and made the leap. I loved it immediately and almost never ride my other bikes now. Struggled a little to get the right saddle sorted but finally landed on a B67 which is perfect for me and the way my platypus is configured for upright riding. Now, of course, I have a couple of Brooks Flyers lying around but they will move to a new home soon I hope. I’m not really quite sure what it is but the platypus just glides; like it’s floating on air. I hope you have the same experience I have had over the last year and a half or so. Enjoy!On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 2:22:16 PM UTC-7 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:After 18 years of near daily riding, and a few attempts at hodge podge 80s mtn bikes turned commuters that have come and gone, I plan on getting my first Riv, a Platypus. It is an entirely unnecessary purchase. I have had a two bicycle quiver for a majority of my adult life with resounding success. A Salsa Vaya and various steel hardtail mtb’s, both capable of spirited or loaded riding with more than enough comfort. I now have the luxury of all my commuting to be done in a 6 mile radius, 80% of the time. After incorporating silent retreats into my meditation practice a few years ago, the last bit of riding “fast” has lost its appeal, and a slower, more intentional pace of life has pervaded the way in which I move through the world (exceptions made for descending technical singletrack ;). This third addition, which I hope to have for another 18 years, will help bring something incredibly near and dear to me—my daily bike rides—into that realm.This is an impressive amount of money to spend on what most would consider to be a simple, upright, commuter bike, featuring a sun race drivetrain. Yet, still a bargain compared to traditionally built Riv’s. However, we all know where the value lies. I will collect my own parts slowly and make it my own. A 55cm purple Platypus for me. As a designer, Im not in love with the color. I find it a bit too saturated and flat, but at least it’s fun and different. I think this should be the last Ana Purple run. There are far too many glorious colors to have several Riv runs in one. I will close the gap with letting go of seemingly unnecessary preferences, something I’ve been experimenting with throughout my life lately with great success. Something that seems in line with the Rivendell “way.”I hope to post an excessively thorough review of the bicycle, with a ride report, through the lens of my background as an industrial designer, engineer, and most importantly, human being. :) Good luck to all! On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:04:20 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:I’m hoping to snag a 50cm green complete for my wife. I’ve had several Rivs and she’s never had the experience. She’s mentioned several times that a step-through style bike interests her. She has some purple Paul bits on her current bike that I think will look nice with the green instead of two different purples. This would be her townie bike. We ride to dinner, concerts, drinks, casual 20-mile-ish family rides. That sort of thing. Her current rig is an Indy fab titanium cross frame that, while being stupid light, simply doesn’t have all of the options for racks and fenders that 

Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

2023-10-19 Thread Leah Peterson
What a beautiful note you left us, Armand. I really hope you do that Platypus write-up when the time comes because I would very much like to read it.I’m certain your Platypus will bring you into your daily bike ride realm better than any bike you’ve ever ridden. It’s so smooth. So effortless. A real joy-bringer.Congrats on your new bike and to everyone else who got one today, too. Did the rest of you on this thread get the Platypus you were trying for? LeahOn Oct 19, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Armand Kizirian  wrote:After 18 years of near daily riding, and a few attempts at hodge podge 80s mtn bikes turned commuters that have come and gone, I plan on getting my first Riv, a Platypus. It is an entirely unnecessary purchase. I have had a two bicycle quiver for a majority of my adult life with resounding success. A Salsa Vaya and various steel hardtail mtb’s, both capable of spirited or loaded riding with more than enough comfort. I now have the luxury of all my commuting to be done in a 6 mile radius, 80% of the time. After incorporating silent retreats into my meditation practice a few years ago, the last bit of riding “fast” has lost its appeal, and a slower, more intentional pace of life has pervaded the way in which I move through the world (exceptions made for descending technical singletrack ;). This third addition, which I hope to have for another 18 years, will help bring something incredibly near and dear to me—my daily bike rides—into that realm.This is an impressive amount of money to spend on what most would consider to be a simple, upright, commuter bike, featuring a sun race drivetrain. Yet, still a bargain compared to traditionally built Riv’s. However, we all know where the value lies. I will collect my own parts slowly and make it my own. A 55cm purple Platypus for me. As a designer, Im not in love with the color. I find it a bit too saturated and flat, but at least it’s fun and different. I think this should be the last Ana Purple run. There are far too many glorious colors to have several Riv runs in one. I will close the gap with letting go of seemingly unnecessary preferences, something I’ve been experimenting with throughout my life lately with great success. Something that seems in line with the Rivendell “way.”I hope to post an excessively thorough review of the bicycle, with a ride report, through the lens of my background as an industrial designer, engineer, and most importantly, human being. :) Good luck to all! On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:04:20 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:I’m hoping to snag a 50cm green complete for my wife. I’ve had several Rivs and she’s never had the experience. She’s mentioned several times that a step-through style bike interests her. She has some purple Paul bits on her current bike that I think will look nice with the green instead of two different purples. This would be her townie bike. We ride to dinner, concerts, drinks, casual 20-mile-ish family rides. That sort of thing. Her current rig is an Indy fab titanium cross frame that, while being stupid light, simply doesn’t have all of the options for racks and fenders that a Riv does. She’ll love the fact that she can have fenders and the like. On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 10:42:07 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:I'm certainly not in a position to by one but feel compelled to say that while I have not been a fan of any of the purple frames Riv has been doing (and frustrated that they are so hung up on it) the Platy looks so fantastic in that color. On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 9:47:08 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:Will try for a 50 cm complete green for husband's Xmas present! Going to be tricky at work but I have supportive so-workers who know it's Platypus Day tomorrow:)On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 6:40:42 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:The preorder email was sent out today! Did you read it? Lots of completes for sale but only 24 frames.Set to arrive end of November. Sad you’ll have to wait so long. Who is getting one?What color?What plans for the bike?I just had a gorgeous 27 miles on my mermaid Platy today. Sublimely comfortable. Plenty fast. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Swapping a bulb in a Schmidt Edelux II?

2023-10-17 Thread Leah Peterson
I’m so glad to hear this. Although, I have to tell you something crazy - I knew you were back on your bike - how ? - I live in Michigan, remember? Because the other day a guy I know in NYC sent me a pic. He was out riding and saw a Betty Foy in the wild. It was gray, the rider obscured from view, but I know of only one such Betty. And it belongs to the mysterious Caroline Gollum! I knew it immediately. “I know who she is!” I said. Isn’t that wild?So, tell us about your new stem.LeahOn Oct 17, 2023, at 3:06 PM, Caroline Golum  wrote:YES! Took a long while but I finally brought my bike to Nomad Cycles in Queens and Damon was able to 1) free my seized stem, and 2) give the bike a proper tune-up in a few short days!I'm finally riding with the customary Rivendell high stem style and I gotta saydon't know what took me so longOn Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 9:16:49 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Caroline, does this mean you got your Betty back and in working order??? (Sorry this is off-topic. But I really have thought about your Betty so many times since you had the seized stem…)On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 12:20:08 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:I would suspect the wiring and connections well before thinking the LED had burned out. Maybe clean and re-connect the wires everywhere you can? If there is a soldered connection in the wire, it may need re-doing? Good luck!-WesOn Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 9:07:36 AM UTC-7 Caroline Golum wrote:Dynamo-freaks: anyone ever replace a bulb in their Edelux II light? Mine was flickering for a while, then went totally out on my ride home last night. Checked the connection and it's plugged into the hub - but, worth noting, the hub is a recent replacement!



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Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-16 Thread Leah Peterson
Doug, you can say it until springtime when I change it BACK. And then you will declare you have had a change of heart and that you love the ivory saddle and thank goodness I came to my senses and brought it back! 藍On Oct 16, 2023, at 8:55 PM, Doug H.  wrote:I have been on a bicycle hiatus for about three weeks but decided to check the group tonight. Wow, what a discussion! Your bike mods look fabulous Leah. I like the color changes. Can I say now that I did not like the previous saddle color? At least not as much as the new one. Fun reading folks.DougOn Monday, October 16, 2023 at 1:41:54 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:MEN. Even I eventually chimed in and I know better! 臘Joe "realized as soon as I hit Send that this was a bad idea" Bernard On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 8:54:49 AM UTC-7 Dorothy C wrote:Sarah asks “Did you even ask for input about your riding position?” No, poor Leah is getting bikesplained again. Lovely colors, Leah, and I hope Deb takes up your suggestion to make them in ivory as well. On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 8:26:29 AM UTC-7 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:Thanks for the kind words, Leah!  Great find with the Rivet matching grips and like Joe said, the Racing Platy just looks great with either attire, but of course even more autumnal now with those chestnut touches.Max - the yellow Yves Gomez looks terrific with the makeover and glad it all worked out in the end despite the unfortunate turn with the 'as new' claim.The pink Gravelkings were one of their annual color specials from a previous year.  I forget which year these colors were specifically released but stumbled upon them online somewhere even after they were discontinued.  I'm sure there are still some out there to be found but the limited colors I believe are also always limited in model/size even with the initial release.  I'm currently using 700x32 SK and SS models.I think this was the online retailer I had found the discontinued pink and here is another previous limited color in the same 32mm size:https://planetcyclery.com/components/wheels-tires-tubes/tires/panaracer-gravelking-sk-tire-700-x-32-tubeless-folding-astral-blueThis year's colors were turquoise and orange and looks like they did make them up to 700x43 in the SS and SK this time around though only a few size/color combos still seem to remain:https://www.panaracerusa.com/collections/gravelOn Monday, October 16, 2023 at 9:18:03 AM UTC-4 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote:Love the fall accessory swap out! I have zero comments about your seatpost setback because I am so captivated by those new autumnal grips. Did you even ask for input about your riding position because I don't recall seeing that in your makeover postPink Gravel King tires? YES PLEASE!!On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:24:42 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I love the pink. I wish I had known how much the rose anodized parts I had would fade. They are nearly silver now. I should have put red chainring guard/spacers/brake levers instead of rose! I did not know Gravel King came in pink. What a resource you are! You’re as good as a RivSister, Brian!On Oct 15, 2023, at 9:48 PM, Coal Bee Rye Anne  wrote:Here’s my contribution for most recent bike makeover from late summer (now nice and muddy from its last excursion when this picture was captured.)  This was previously my front basket equipped errand runner.  I ended up changing to the low rider rack and bags earlier than in the year while doing some stem and saddle swaps to allow easier fine tuning before reinstalling the bar brackets.  The rack was available while already removed from another bike also undergoing some minor changes.  Despite being intended as a temporary rack and basket trade between frames I decided to stick with it once I had them mounted and enjoyed the new and lighter build on this bike.I’ve had the pink gravelking SK tires and bartape in waiting but with no particular build planned.  The once bright red anodized chainring guard now faded to a pinkish hue I decided it was time to replace the mismatched blackwall tires and add more color to complement the guard in its current shade now with the other components somewhat solidified.  Only a few weeks and a handful of rides on this Lizard Skinz tape, however, it has worn so rapidly on the outer layer to already look like it needs replacing from months of hard use so will see how quickly it wears further from here.A spare set of wheels are also now shod with purple Gravelking SS for a more road oriented option though I mixed up the slightly different gearing between wheels and still need to swap the tires or cogs/freewheels to better match the gears and tread with terrain.I have unfortunately not been getting in nearly as much riding as I’d like between work and family commitments but with four complete bikes now in rotation with different builds I’ve otherwise been somewhat consistent with at least alternating them.  A new personal goal is to try and ride each 

Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-16 Thread Leah Peterson
I love the pink. I wish I had known how much the rose anodized parts I had would fade. They are nearly silver now. I should have put red chainring guard/spacers/brake levers instead of rose! I did not know Gravel King came in pink. What a resource you are! You’re as good as a RivSister, Brian!On Oct 15, 2023, at 9:48 PM, Coal Bee Rye Anne  wrote:Here’s my contribution for most recent bike makeover from late summer (now nice and muddy from its last excursion when this picture was captured.)  This was previously my front basket equipped errand runner.  I ended up changing to the low rider rack and bags earlier than in the year while doing some stem and saddle swaps to allow easier fine tuning before reinstalling the bar brackets.  The rack was available while already removed from another bike also undergoing some minor changes.  Despite being intended as a temporary rack and basket trade between frames I decided to stick with it once I had them mounted and enjoyed the new and lighter build on this bike.I’ve had the pink gravelking SK tires and bartape in waiting but with no particular build planned.  The once bright red anodized chainring guard now faded to a pinkish hue I decided it was time to replace the mismatched blackwall tires and add more color to complement the guard in its current shade now with the other components somewhat solidified.  Only a few weeks and a handful of rides on this Lizard Skinz tape, however, it has worn so rapidly on the outer layer to already look like it needs replacing from months of hard use so will see how quickly it wears further from here.A spare set of wheels are also now shod with purple Gravelking SS for a more road oriented option though I mixed up the slightly different gearing between wheels and still need to swap the tires or cogs/freewheels to better match the gears and tread with terrain.I have unfortunately not been getting in nearly as much riding as I’d like between work and family commitments but with four complete bikes now in rotation with different builds I’ve otherwise been somewhat consistent with at least alternating them.  A new personal goal is to try and ride each at least once per week more frequently, even if just for a quick 30min loop.  The more I ride, though, the more I tend to want to tweak things here or there and do more make-overs!Brian ColeOn Wednesday, October 11, 2023, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover thread.Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite Platypus. I have it perfect mechanically, but bags and grips and occasionally, saddles, beg to be changed up. It’s fully autumn here in the Great Lakes State, and my ivory Rivet was looking a little out of season. I was gifted a chestnut Rivet from a dear RivSister, so I decided to pull it out and put it on the bike. I took the brown Ergons from my other Platypus, slapped them on and sent her a photo. “That bike deserves prettier grips. Those are ugly,” she said, giving me the unvarnished truth. I looked again. She was right. Back to the drawing board. I finally found these grips from Rivet Cycle Works - Deb told me she had these but didn’t have them up on the website yet. She had the exact match to my chestnut saddle and days later, I had these gorgeous stamped leather grips in hand. The bike looks positively tonal. The colors of the paint throw out so many different shades of pinks and reds, thanks to the abundant glitter in the metallic; adding rich leather accessories only elevates the look. The stamped designs on the leather give the bike some texture and add visual interest at the handlebar area. This Platypus is like a little autumn posey. Perfect and pretty, and wholly appointed to its duty.Now if I can just convince Deb to make these in ivory, so I have a pair to match my ivory Rivet saddle when spring comes…Attached in the next post are the before and afters.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Leah Peterson
I’m nearly sure Rivet Sonora is 10mm shorter rails than Brooks. I think that could account for the difference.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 15, 2023, at 7:03 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Leah stated concerning her Mermaid Platy:  "

This one has a Brooks. I know it sounds crazy but this bike feels perfect to me and I believe it to be because the Brooks rails are a little longer and allow for just enough setback. "My Comment: Brooks B17s are notorious for their rails having a short adjustment length.  I measured 2.1 to 3.0 cm depending on how much you force the saddle fore and aft in the clamp.The Mermaid looks like a 'normal' setup form that type of frame.   There seems to be more seatpost showing the=an on the Raspberry Platy.The Raspberry Platy seems more stretched out, which George has diagnosed in his repliesLeah, if you think the Billie bars on the Mermaid are different than the Billie bars on the Raspberry., just place the 2 side by side, line up the bars and visually compare the 2.  Any differences should be apparent.  If NO differences are observed they are probably the same.John HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 6:40:42 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have the mermaid Platy:This one has a Brooks. I know it sounds crazy but this bike feels perfect to me and I believe it to be because the Brooks rails are a little longer and allow for just enough setback. Either that or the Billie Bars are somehow not made to spec and don’t come back as far. That’s my layperson crumby understanding. But that bike fits great.The Clem:I rode it last night and decided I hate how it feels. Bars too close, too bolt upright. This is the fault of club riding where I now like leaning forward more. But I rarely ride this bike so it won’t get any new parts. Poor thing.On Oct 15, 2023, at 6:36 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Curious if Leah has her other Rivendells set up the same way.John HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 5:03:31 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:I'll probably get clobbered for my reply to this discussion - I'm used to it - but from viewing the pics of Leah's bikes in this thread plus others in previous threads, her bike always seems to be either in the highest gear or at least the next to highest. And she has admitted to as much in previous discussions that's how she likes it. And since she likes the saddle moved as far as possible to the rear this means that she's using the leverage of that angle while pulling back on the bar grips in order to "stomp" as hard as possible on the pedals.  Since she has the leg development and strength to get away with that kind of riding due to her weight training and other off-bike workouts, that's just how she's using to riding.Many of the rest of us old farts who learned road riding on a diamond-framed bike with drop bars, having the saddle positioned more closely to the center of the BB so we could "spin" the pedals at as high a cadence (RPM) as possible, shifting gears when necessary in order to maintain that cadence (which is how I assume the pro racers still learn to ride).  Which is probably why she gets some sideways looks by others in the pace lines of her bike club.  That's not how she's learned to ride for whatever reason, so fiddling around with saddle position is likely to be a problem, or as least a considerable adjustment for her.  Anyway, that's my 2¢.On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 3:27:57 PM UTC-5 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ wrote:
Ok, I understandMoving the saddle back increases the saddle to bar distance by about 2.5cm.  This indicates the frame/stem/bar combination was too SHORT.Then, You cut 1 cm from the bars.  This increased the saddle to bar distance, indicating the frame/stem/bar combination was too SHORT, but is OK now.So you ended up increasing the saddle to bar distance 3.5 cm to get to an Acceptable position..I think the Alba bar would be better based on this from the RBW write up on the Billie:'The Billie straight grip section is 2" (5 cm) longer than an Alba." So an Alba with a 10cm stem would have a saddle to bar distance 1.5cm longer (5 - 3.5) than what you ended up.Replace the 10 cm stem with a 9cm and you are within 0.5cm (5mm) of where you are at.  A 8cm stem would also work, just 5mm on the other side.  A 8.5cm would be mathematically correct, but the 5mm either way probably cant be felt..Leah is also in a too short condition, excess seatpost SB and max length stem..   The extra 5cm of straight grip length of the Billie contributes to the 'shortness' by having the LONG straight grip section.   The fact that other Riv sisters had the same problem and they used Billie bars, indicate the Billie bar is the common problem.RBW supplies the Platy built up in Taiwan with a Tosco bar which has a sweep back about the same a s a Billie.  So they seem to supply Platy's as too short due t9 the bar sweep back.John 

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Leah Peterson
George, lol, that IS what I do. And I never knew there was really any other way! I dislike the feeling of spinning. It feels wobbly and out of control. So I don’t - I just leave it in the “hard” gear. BUT, I do shift to an easier one at stop signs now. My knees were killing me tryng to race up to speed from a dead stop and I didn’t want to hold up the riders behind me. But you are probably right about my riding style. Huh. I never thought about it.Max - hearts are coming out of my eyes looking at the yellow bike!! What a lucky woman is yours!!On Oct 15, 2023, at 5:03 PM, George Schick  wrote:I'll probably get clobbered for my reply to this discussion - I'm used to it - but from viewing the pics of Leah's bikes in this thread plus others in previous threads, her bike always seems to be either in the highest gear or at least the next to highest. And she has admitted to as much in previous discussions that's how she likes it. And since she likes the saddle moved as far as possible to the rear this means that she's using the leverage of that angle while pulling back on the bar grips in order to "stomp" as hard as possible on the pedals.  Since she has the leg development and strength to get away with that kind of riding due to her weight training and other off-bike workouts, that's just how she's using to riding.Many of the rest of us old farts who learned road riding on a diamond-framed bike with drop bars, having the saddle positioned more closely to the center of the BB so we could "spin" the pedals at as high a cadence (RPM) as possible, shifting gears when necessary in order to maintain that cadence (which is how I assume the pro racers still learn to ride).  Which is probably why she gets some sideways looks by others in the pace lines of her bike club.  That's not how she's learned to ride for whatever reason, so fiddling around with saddle position is likely to be a problem, or as least a considerable adjustment for her.  Anyway, that's my 2¢.On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 3:27:57 PM UTC-5 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ wrote:
Ok, I understandMoving the saddle back increases the saddle to bar distance by about 2.5cm.  This indicates the frame/stem/bar combination was too SHORT.Then, You cut 1 cm from the bars.  This increased the saddle to bar distance, indicating the frame/stem/bar combination was too SHORT, but is OK now.So you ended up increasing the saddle to bar distance 3.5 cm to get to an Acceptable position..I think the Alba bar would be better based on this from the RBW write up on the Billie:'The Billie straight grip section is 2" (5 cm) longer than an Alba." So an Alba with a 10cm stem would have a saddle to bar distance 1.5cm longer (5 - 3.5) than what you ended up.Replace the 10 cm stem with a 9cm and you are within 0.5cm (5mm) of where you are at.  A 8cm stem would also work, just 5mm on the other side.  A 8.5cm would be mathematically correct, but the 5mm either way probably cant be felt..Leah is also in a too short condition, excess seatpost SB and max length stem..   The extra 5cm of straight grip length of the Billie contributes to the 'shortness' by having the LONG straight grip section.   The fact that other Riv sisters had the same problem and they used Billie bars, indicate the Billie bar is the common problem.RBW supplies the Platy built up in Taiwan with a Tosco bar which has a sweep back about the same a s a Billie.  So they seem to supply Platy's as too short due t9 the bar sweep back.John HawrylakWoodstown NJ 





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Thanks, John.I must have said it wrong.  I moved my saddle AWAY from the bars, towards the rear end of my bike.  I think that's called aft (I had to look it up).  the bars were still too close, so I cut off 1cm (after a year of trying to feel OK).  If the stem had come in an 11cm, I would have just done that.  I ended in a good position, so like you said "
then all is good in life."RobertaOn Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 2:08:31 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ wrote:RobertaPushing the saddle BACK to the back of the clamp, moves the saddle FORWARD the maximum amount.  This indicates the saddle to bar distance is too long and your needed to reduce the reach.   Maybe you pushed it too far forward, most Brooks have only 20 to 30mm of total fore/aft motion..  Did you cut 1cm off the bars after pushing forward the max amount??.   Cutting the bars indicate the saddle to bar distance is too short, the opposite of your original action (push saddle forward).   The 1 cm cut is within the range of Brooks adjustability.But if you ended in a good position, then all is good in life.John HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:26:10 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:I've had a few emails with other RivSisters who own Platys and there 

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Leah Peterson
What’s weird is that I sized up! My PBH would technically fit the 50!Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 15, 2023, at 12:55 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:Reflecting on all the setback talk, I do think the reach may be inherently a tad short for the rider in question. I'm the same height as Leah - possibly even shorter, I'm aging and shrinking! - and Grant designed my Rivendell with a 54.2 ST, 63 ETT to work with Boscos up way high. It's perfect. On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 10:33:09 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:I love the new look. I also love the old look! Basically I just love that Raspberry Racing Platy ❤️❤️❤️On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 6:52:55 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover thread.Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite Platypus. I have it perfect mechanically, but bags and grips and occasionally, saddles, beg to be changed up. It’s fully autumn here in the Great Lakes State, and my ivory Rivet was looking a little out of season. I was gifted a chestnut Rivet from a dear RivSister, so I decided to pull it out and put it on the bike. I took the brown Ergons from my other Platypus, slapped them on and sent her a photo. “That bike deserves prettier grips. Those are ugly,” she said, giving me the unvarnished truth. I looked again. She was right. Back to the drawing board. I finally found these grips from Rivet Cycle Works - Deb told me she had these but didn’t have them up on the website yet. She had the exact match to my chestnut saddle and days later, I had these gorgeous stamped leather grips in hand. The bike looks positively tonal. The colors of the paint throw out so many different shades of pinks and reds, thanks to the abundant glitter in the metallic; adding rich leather accessories only elevates the look. The stamped designs on the leather give the bike some texture and add visual interest at the handlebar area. This Platypus is like a little autumn posey. Perfect and pretty, and wholly appointed to its duty.Now if I can just convince Deb to make these in ivory, so I have a pair to match my ivory Rivet saddle when spring comes…Attached in the next post are the before and afters.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-15 Thread Leah Peterson
John, My seatpost actually has setback to 50. I have my saddle at 42 or 43. Now that I have these new grips, I could try the old seat post. The new grips sit further up the bars and I have more reach now. The feeling of being cramped was fairly slight, and I could often ignore it, but it was one of those little niggling details I wanted improved. Some people would have chopped their Billie Bars - not me! I need all that real estate so keep 1000 things on my bars!Eric, I know. I have had this exact thought. Bill Lindsay - I would trust you to do it! And I would drive to your part of Michigan if you had the tool to make it happen! No pressure or anything. Joseph! Oh why bother getting it in silver? Such a magnificent seat post deserves to be a focal point: I should just go with the black. Joyce, there’s a woman in product design over at 1 Up, I see! I love my RivSisters; they don’t want me to miss out on any of the best stuff.LeahOn Oct 14, 2023, at 4:48 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:A Nitto S84 has at least 10mm LESS setback than the IRD Wayback (approx 40mm (S84) vs 50mm (IRD) per RBW site).   Leah pics shows the IRD to be full back.   So even if she could use a 27.2 post, the S84 does not have the setback she needs.The real question is why didn't  RBW design the frame for a 27.2mm seat post    Are they using a straight gauge seat tube vs a butted seat tube to save cost???  Or do they need a thicker wall for the lug in the middle of the seat tube??John HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 7:28:07 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:The difficulty of less than common seat tube diameters was the indirect subject of another lister's, touched upon a bit ago from a different perspective: https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/ooTGF-OdSws/m/9T6WazuQAAAJEvery bike is different but if feasible on your Platy, it can be done to permit something as nice as the Nitto S84.Love Deb's "pre stock" grips for your Ergons. She's the best. Andy CheathamPittsburghOn Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 7:36:47 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’ve had enough experiences with bike shops to be very hesitant to hand them my bike for a task that could ruin the frame. What happens if the hole is reamed too large? I can’t see that the frame would be salvageable. On Oct 12, 2023, at 9:10 AM, Johnny Alien <johnny@gmail.com> wrote:Many here have said that its not a big deal to get a bike shop to ream it to 27.2 to allow for more seatpost options. I find it frustrating as well but slightly less so because I don't need the extra setback. On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 7:39:10 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:Yeah, the whole 26.8 seat tube limitation has got to be one of the most frustrating things about this era of Rivendell. On Oct 12, 2023, at 6:43 AM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:Ryan,That seat post is butt ugly. The only ugly thing on the bike. I like the setback it offers, and there are zero other options for that. Zero. This bike is unimprovable, save this one thing: the seat tube should have been 27.2 so I would have some OPTIONS. It’s my one sorrow.LeahOn Oct 11, 2023, at 10:54 PM, Ryan <ryte...@mts.net> wrote:the grips are smashing.but nitto needs to make a 26.8 lugged seatpostfor that lovely bike.just sayingOn Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:57:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Raspberry Platypus BEFORE:AND After…On Oct 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover thread.Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite Platypus. I have it perfect mechanically, but bags and grips and occasionally, saddles, beg to be changed up. It’s fully autumn here in the Great Lakes State, and my ivory Rivet was looking a little out of season. I was gifted a chestnut Rivet from a dear RivSister, so I decided to pull it out and put it on the bike. I took the brown Ergons from my other Platypus, slapped them on and sent her a photo. “That bike deserves prettier grips. Those are ugly,” she said, giving me the unvarnished truth. I looked again. She was right. Back to the drawing board. I finally found these grips from Rivet Cycle Works - Deb told me she had these but didn’t have them up on the website yet. She had the exact match to my chestnut saddle and days later, I had these gorgeous stamped leather grips in hand. The bike looks positively tonal. The colors of the paint throw out so many different shades of pinks and reds, thanks to the abundant glitter in the metallic; adding rich leather accessories only elevates the look. The stamped designs on the leather give the bike some texture and add visual interest at the handlebar area. This Platypus is like a little autumn posey. Perfect and pretty, and wholly appointed to its duty.Now if I can just convince Deb to make these in ivory, so I have a pair t

Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-12 Thread Leah Peterson
I don’t need more setback than what I have - I bought this post for its setback and it’s adequate. This one is ugly but it is the only choice for 26.8. Stem: I have the Nitto extra tall stem and you cannot get it longer than 100mm. So, if I want to use a pretty seat post, I can, but I’d need to pitch my tall stem and sacrifice height for reach. So, I’m keeping my favorite stem and buying myself setback with that ugly post. It’s the best option I can see at this point. On Oct 12, 2023, at 9:21 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:LeahI thought the seatpost looked like a Sakae LTE-100 type.    Not sure what problems you have making you consider reaming the seat tube, but that post has the most setback you can get.   If you need additional distance to the bars, you could try a 10mm longer stem.John HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 9:05:12 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Thanks, the seat post is the IRD Wayback post and the bag is Riv’s Saddlesack, the BagBoy.On Oct 12, 2023, at 9:01 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:LeahYour changes look good.   What is the seatpost and the saddlebag you have??John HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:57:32 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Raspberry Platypus BEFORE:AND After…On Oct 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover thread.Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite Platypus. I have it perfect mechanically, but bags and grips and occasionally, saddles, beg to be changed up. It’s fully autumn here in the Great Lakes State, and my ivory Rivet was looking a little out of season. I was gifted a chestnut Rivet from a dear RivSister, so I decided to pull it out and put it on the bike. I took the brown Ergons from my other Platypus, slapped them on and sent her a photo. “That bike deserves prettier grips. Those are ugly,” she said, giving me the unvarnished truth. I looked again. She was right. Back to the drawing board. I finally found these grips from Rivet Cycle Works - Deb told me she had these but didn’t have them up on the website yet. She had the exact match to my chestnut saddle and days later, I had these gorgeous stamped leather grips in hand. The bike looks positively tonal. The colors of the paint throw out so many different shades of pinks and reds, thanks to the abundant glitter in the metallic; adding rich leather accessories only elevates the look. The stamped designs on the leather give the bike some texture and add visual interest at the handlebar area. This Platypus is like a little autumn posey. Perfect and pretty, and wholly appointed to its duty.Now if I can just convince Deb to make these in ivory, so I have a pair to match my ivory Rivet saddle when spring comes…Attached in the next post are the before and afters.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-12 Thread Leah Peterson
Thanks, the seat post is the IRD Wayback post and the bag is Riv’s Saddlesack, the BagBoy.On Oct 12, 2023, at 9:01 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:LeahYour changes look good.   What is the seatpost and the saddlebag you have??John HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:57:32 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Raspberry Platypus BEFORE:AND After…On Oct 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover thread.Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite Platypus. I have it perfect mechanically, but bags and grips and occasionally, saddles, beg to be changed up. It’s fully autumn here in the Great Lakes State, and my ivory Rivet was looking a little out of season. I was gifted a chestnut Rivet from a dear RivSister, so I decided to pull it out and put it on the bike. I took the brown Ergons from my other Platypus, slapped them on and sent her a photo. “That bike deserves prettier grips. Those are ugly,” she said, giving me the unvarnished truth. I looked again. She was right. Back to the drawing board. I finally found these grips from Rivet Cycle Works - Deb told me she had these but didn’t have them up on the website yet. She had the exact match to my chestnut saddle and days later, I had these gorgeous stamped leather grips in hand. The bike looks positively tonal. The colors of the paint throw out so many different shades of pinks and reds, thanks to the abundant glitter in the metallic; adding rich leather accessories only elevates the look. The stamped designs on the leather give the bike some texture and add visual interest at the handlebar area. This Platypus is like a little autumn posey. Perfect and pretty, and wholly appointed to its duty.Now if I can just convince Deb to make these in ivory, so I have a pair to match my ivory Rivet saddle when spring comes…Attached in the next post are the before and afters.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-12 Thread Leah Peterson
I’ve had enough experiences with bike shops to be very hesitant to hand them my bike for a task that could ruin the frame. What happens if the hole is reamed too large? I can’t see that the frame would be salvageable. On Oct 12, 2023, at 9:10 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:Many here have said that its not a big deal to get a bike shop to ream it to 27.2 to allow for more seatpost options. I find it frustrating as well but slightly less so because I don't need the extra setback. On Thursday, October 12, 2023 at 7:39:10 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:Yeah, the whole 26.8 seat tube limitation has got to be one of the most frustrating things about this era of Rivendell. On Oct 12, 2023, at 6:43 AM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:Ryan,That seat post is butt ugly. The only ugly thing on the bike. I like the setback it offers, and there are zero other options for that. Zero. This bike is unimprovable, save this one thing: the seat tube should have been 27.2 so I would have some OPTIONS. It’s my one sorrow.LeahOn Oct 11, 2023, at 10:54 PM, Ryan <ryte...@mts.net> wrote:the grips are smashing.but nitto needs to make a 26.8 lugged seatpostfor that lovely bike.just sayingOn Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:57:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Raspberry Platypus BEFORE:AND After…On Oct 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover thread.Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite Platypus. I have it perfect mechanically, but bags and grips and occasionally, saddles, beg to be changed up. It’s fully autumn here in the Great Lakes State, and my ivory Rivet was looking a little out of season. I was gifted a chestnut Rivet from a dear RivSister, so I decided to pull it out and put it on the bike. I took the brown Ergons from my other Platypus, slapped them on and sent her a photo. “That bike deserves prettier grips. Those are ugly,” she said, giving me the unvarnished truth. I looked again. She was right. Back to the drawing board. I finally found these grips from Rivet Cycle Works - Deb told me she had these but didn’t have them up on the website yet. She had the exact match to my chestnut saddle and days later, I had these gorgeous stamped leather grips in hand. The bike looks positively tonal. The colors of the paint throw out so many different shades of pinks and reds, thanks to the abundant glitter in the metallic; adding rich leather accessories only elevates the look. The stamped designs on the leather give the bike some texture and add visual interest at the handlebar area. This Platypus is like a little autumn posey. Perfect and pretty, and wholly appointed to its duty.Now if I can just convince Deb to make these in ivory, so I have a pair to match my ivory Rivet saddle when spring comes…Attached in the next post are the before and afters.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-12 Thread Leah Peterson
Ryan,That seat post is butt ugly. The only ugly thing on the bike. I like the setback it offers, and there are zero other options for that. Zero. This bike is unimprovable, save this one thing: the seat tube should have been 27.2 so I would have some OPTIONS. It’s my one sorrow.LeahOn Oct 11, 2023, at 10:54 PM, Ryan  wrote:the grips are smashing.but nitto needs to make a 26.8 lugged seatpostfor that lovely bike.just sayingOn Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:57:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Raspberry Platypus BEFORE:AND After…On Oct 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover thread.Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite Platypus. I have it perfect mechanically, but bags and grips and occasionally, saddles, beg to be changed up. It’s fully autumn here in the Great Lakes State, and my ivory Rivet was looking a little out of season. I was gifted a chestnut Rivet from a dear RivSister, so I decided to pull it out and put it on the bike. I took the brown Ergons from my other Platypus, slapped them on and sent her a photo. “That bike deserves prettier grips. Those are ugly,” she said, giving me the unvarnished truth. I looked again. She was right. Back to the drawing board. I finally found these grips from Rivet Cycle Works - Deb told me she had these but didn’t have them up on the website yet. She had the exact match to my chestnut saddle and days later, I had these gorgeous stamped leather grips in hand. The bike looks positively tonal. The colors of the paint throw out so many different shades of pinks and reds, thanks to the abundant glitter in the metallic; adding rich leather accessories only elevates the look. The stamped designs on the leather give the bike some texture and add visual interest at the handlebar area. This Platypus is like a little autumn posey. Perfect and pretty, and wholly appointed to its duty.Now if I can just convince Deb to make these in ivory, so I have a pair to match my ivory Rivet saddle when spring comes…Attached in the next post are the before and afters.Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Shop Misadventures

2023-10-08 Thread Leah Peterson
Thank you, Matt, that was kind. ♥️ The bike is still in the shop, but I *might* get it back tomorrow, which would be lovely as it is the Monday Night Ride. I have been riding my mermaid Shopping Platypus to the rides and boy, have I been getting comments. See, I stripped the Backabike bags, but realized, “Oh no. The Wald basket is still going to be there…” Showing up on your Platypus for the club ride is one thing, showing up on your basketed Platypus is quite another. Also, that bike is set up heavier and with harder gearing. I am working to keep up. But, I do keep up, and then I get a lot of backhanded compliments after the ride.LeahOn Oct 6, 2023, at 11:43 PM, matt miller  wrote:This is a wonderful story. No judgements from me. I think we are all lucky to share in your humility, graciousness and wonderful storytelling. I hope you get the pretty red Platy back soon.Matt in STLOn Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:46:36 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have a long and storied history of bike shop misadventures. If I heard my tales secondhand, I would believe that I, Leah Peterson, am the problem, as I am the common denominator. But I make you a solemn promise that I can’t see how. And I am gracious, even in the misadventures. But they always happen. You can count on it.There are 2 shops in town. One well-established, the one I always patronize. My bikes are oddballs there, but they never point that out. Great shop. Best I have had in years. I’ve had some misadventures there, but I caught the mistakes and the shop fixed them. Minor stuff. The other shop is in a downtrodden part of town, and they work on a lot of beater bikes. BUT, they know all about Bridgestone and Mount Tam and a little of Rivendell and they revere it all. My son’s Future College Clem was assembled by them, and the mechanic greased every bolt. He saw all the fine points of that frame and mentioned them. He even met Grant once at a conference/bike show. He took his time with the Clem and I really respected his work. That shop doesn’t work on a lot of high-end bikes, and they are eager to see beautiful steel bikes like Rivendells. The Racing Platy has a lot of miles on it by now. It needed: a tune-up, new chain, new cassette, possibly new tires, new brake pads, pedals rebuilt, and to be inspected for anything else. When you have a Lifetime Bike, you must keep it tip-top so it lasts. Because I wanted a thorough tune up, and because they had so fussed over our Clem, I called the shop and asked if they would service my Rivendell. “Don’t tempt ME with a good time!” Rob said.* (Rob is not his real name.) I drove there, wheeled the bike to the entrance and Rob and an employee are smoking something outside. Red flag number one. I feel an urge to turn on my heel. Maybe I’m mistaken; I decide to keep an open mind. We go inside. The mechanic who assembled our Clem is not here. The shop is in tatters as Rob is moving locations. The other man comes by with a pile of metal rods and nearly bashes them into my Platypus. I cringe. Rob says he’ll have the bike done in 48 hours. I’ve provided most of the parts, but will need cassette and chain. I ask him to keep the gearing I have - it’s my club ride bike and the gearing is perfect. No changes, please.Rob calls me on Wed to tell me he has this cassette laying around that isn’t the same but should work. I decline, telling him that the bike is DIALED. I agree to wait a couple days while he places an order. But I don’t hear from Rob. So, I call him today. Rob is nervous. Rob is apologetic. Rob has a sick kid and 400 interruptions. Rob has not gotten anything done. “I don’t know how to do tubeless,” he admits. “The guy I had coming to rebuild your pedals and do your tubeless didn’t show up. I have a buddy that I can call to come by and show me.” I panic. “No, no,” I say, “Just leave the tubeless and I’ll take care of it.” “I pulled the tires off,” he says, “So now we HAVE to do something about the tubeless.” My heart sinks and my mind spins. I want to race over and collect my disassembled bike. I can’t believe this shop owner has no formal training on tubeless and was going to invite his friends over to service mine.“Well,” I say, keeping my tone calm and measured, “How about you put on that rear cassette and then I’ll just get the bike the way it is and take it with me.” I figure this will let him keep some pride and earn a little money. I head to the shop wanting to die a thousand deaths because I have 2 miserable conversations before me: The first will be when I get to Rob’s shop. How much will he expect me to pay for his services? Will he have damaged my bike? Will he return all the parts I’ve left with him? The second will be facing the staff at “my” bike shop, admitting my unfaithfulness and asking them to fix what Rob has done. I decide I’m going to be gracious for the first conversation and humble for the second. Rob has my Platypus wrapped in foam and in the stand. He gets my naked rims back on my

Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv Day!!

2023-10-06 Thread Leah Peterson
Max, is this the bike you later had painted a yellow for your #1 favorite? Also, I noticed Marc’s has a cream head tube. Why would only some of them be painted with cream head tubes? Anyone know?At any rate, I LOVE it. Both bikes. And green is a hard color to get right, and this green is just gorgeous.On Oct 6, 2023, at 7:02 PM, Tim Tetrault  wrote:Max, that's a nice set up. Seeing those old SKS longboards... they way they used to be made... perfection.On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:17:04 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:Good catch Marc! The Glorius/Wilbury/Betty series was a gorgeous lineup of mixtes. Have fun with the build process; looking forward to seeing it all together.Best,Rich in ATLOn Friday, October 6, 2023 at 12:02:46 PM UTC-4 Max S wrote:We can be YG-in-MI buddies! On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:42:50 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:Welcome to the Riv mixte crew, Marc - looking forward to seeing it built up!-Dave (on a Platy near Boston)On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 3:27:13 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:That's a nice frame, Marc. Leah is the Riv mixte whisperer, they find her! Joe Bernard On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 6:46:51 AM UTC-7 Marc Irwin wrote:Thanks to Leah Peterson for putting me in touch with Michael Downs, I now have a limited edition Yves Gomez.  I've wanted a Riv mixte since I heard of the Wilbury, but I hadn't happened for a variety of reasons.  I'm really glad to have the Yves because it's a color I like while the new Platypus colors are not, and I don't think I'd care for the longer chainstays either.  Although I could ride a 60 cm mixte,  the 55 Michael had should ride just like the 56 Sam and 54 Hunq that I have now.  Perhaps it's the end of N+1 for me...maybe...for now..



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-10-04 Thread Leah Peterson
Awesome. Perfect fall outfit, and very reminiscent of our 90s days (like a polished grunge?) - bring it back! Also love the pants, a little bit of stretch is so great for riding. And your Sam is dressed in similar fashion and just looks like it goes with your ‘fit. Thanks for posting; I get no small amount of delight from these Bike Style posts!LOn Oct 3, 2023, at 10:46 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:I am not particularly stylish, but my cool but dry autumn day kit is extremely Vancouverite: - Du/er stretchy slim fit jeans- Patagonia flannel shirt (absolutely the best quality flannel shirt I've ever touched) - Vessi waterproof sneakers - Arcteryx thin merino gloves (not pictured) I neglected to wear a cap today, so style points lost there. My helmet is just an old MTB hand-me-down .. I need to refresh that. As it gets colder, I'll pull out the Randi Jo over-the-ear wool cap and wear the Ronnie leather gloves I recently purchased. On Monday, 2 October 2023 at 19:18:28 UTC-7 Max S wrote:It's like my foot changed in the last year or two... All the shoes in the sizes I used to be able to wear no longer fit, and that goes for bike shoes, formal shoes, casual shoes... Bought a pair of those VeloSambas – in BLUE SUEDE, and TWO sizes larger than I used to wear, which now somehow fits – and am about to try them out on the bike. - Max "if the shoe fits, wear it" in A2 On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 7:02:32 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Max - I love the shoes. If those didn’t work out, you’ll grace us with a photo on the bike of their replacements, I just know it.Luke - so good. Black on black with all the accessories (“cuz men gotta have their accessories”), looking fit and content on that Atlantis with the rainbow top tube. Love it. Goal: Find you a bike style photographer like Luke’s. On Oct 2, 2023, at 12:52 AM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:27:02 PM UTC-7 J wrote:That Coppi chest pocket shirt above was remade by Ostroy https://ostroy.com/products/mesh-resort-shirt-with-front-buttons-pocketOn Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:41:19 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:Love that you match your bike so well.  Great style for your bike and you!  You are a well-matched pair.On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:Okay...I'll risk the catcalls and cheap jokes - here's a glamour pic of my stylish riding kit. I say "function first & to each their own". On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:Johnny, fellow Gex Xer here. 80s fashion was something to behold indeed! I must say that I do miss my black Members Only jacket and wish I still had it. I'll leave the denim jean jacket in the past though along with the mullet haircut.DougOn Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:18:12 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:*where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionalityOn Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 80's. Hip to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make a comeback but 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a car. So, so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but wow, I can see how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the Cheviot? And its still in working order? I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class of ‘99 - here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had already been there done that!Dorothy, I did not know that you sew your own clothes, but that elevates you to an even higher status now that I do!Emily, yes, we are the same age! I love your ideas and will try the more aggressive folding. But I would love to see your wide-leg styles since I’m just getting into them.You RivSisters should definitely send us some bike style portraits. Don’t leave Luke and I hanging out here by ourselves!Off to work. Hope to see more in this thread when I get off at 2:30.LOn Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  wrote:Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain having recently greased up the leg of my new so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them nearly every ride to work.For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg and fold on the wide 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-10-02 Thread Leah Peterson
Max - I love the shoes. If those didn’t work out, you’ll grace us with a photo on the bike of their replacements, I just know it.Luke - so good. Black on black with all the accessories (“cuz men gotta have their accessories”), looking fit and content on that Atlantis with the rainbow top tube. Love it. Goal: Find you a bike style photographer like Luke’s. On Oct 2, 2023, at 12:52 AM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:27:02 PM UTC-7 J wrote:That Coppi chest pocket shirt above was remade by Ostroy https://ostroy.com/products/mesh-resort-shirt-with-front-buttons-pocketOn Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 9:41:19 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:Love that you match your bike so well.  Great style for your bike and you!  You are a well-matched pair.On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:Okay...I'll risk the catcalls and cheap jokes - here's a glamour pic of my stylish riding kit. I say "function first & to each their own". On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:Johnny, fellow Gex Xer here. 80s fashion was something to behold indeed! I must say that I do miss my black Members Only jacket and wish I still had it. I'll leave the denim jean jacket in the past though along with the mullet haircut.DougOn Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:18:12 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:*where. Man do I hate that there is no edit functionalityOn Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:17:31 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:I'm firmly Gen X and we 100% were doing pegged pant legs in the 80's. Hip to do with a pair of Bugle Boys. 90's fashion is OK to make a comeback but 80's is not. Let's leave that were it was. :)On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 5:31:15 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a car. So, so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but wow, I can see how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the Cheviot? And its still in working order? I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class of ‘99 - here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had already been there done that!Dorothy, I did not know that you sew your own clothes, but that elevates you to an even higher status now that I do!Emily, yes, we are the same age! I love your ideas and will try the more aggressive folding. But I would love to see your wide-leg styles since I’m just getting into them.You RivSisters should definitely send us some bike style portraits. Don’t leave Luke and I hanging out here by ourselves!Off to work. Hope to see more in this thread when I get off at 2:30.LOn Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  wrote:Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain having recently greased up the leg of my new so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them nearly every ride to work.For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg and fold on the wide leg pants, just have to roll them high enough. Otherwise I'd do a tuck into a high sock. Please keep the suggestions and photos coming! DanielleOn Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go to is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true waist and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals very, very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I live that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have riding specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of my jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or any other 

Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-09-29 Thread Leah Peterson
Ted, you look wonderful! I love that jersey and your shades. Tell me why Bombas and not Smartwool. I’ve never tried Bombas - should I?Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 29, 2023, at 5:30 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:Today I decided to really go for it and wear those trouser jeans I’ve been putting off wearing. They are fairly ridiculous as they have to be wound around my legs twice and Velcro-strapped into submission. But, I want to wear things that are on trend and not just stuff that’s for the bike. So, here it is:Look at all that billowing denim.Wrapped into submission.Not really the look I was going for. But functional. That’s it for today.LeahSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 29, 2023, at 8:49 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:Extremely kind of you to withhold disapproval for my blue gloves.  Yuck!  Ruined the look.  I need to retire that cap also.  BL in ECOn Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 4:36:25 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Gravel jersey with earth tones and purple is my favorite. Very nice!On Sep 28, 2023, at 6:48 PM, Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> wrote:Purple Rivendell Legolas:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803207773Purple Endo Customs Bib shorts:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803160685Gravel jersey with earthtone plaid and purple stripes:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52802196672Earthtone gravel shoes with purple socks:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803207303My terrible blue gloves do not match the outfit. :(BL in ECOn Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:36:56 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:I've bought a lot of nice cycling clothing this year.  One Fit I really like is my Nature Morte outfit by Ostroy.  I think it goes nicely with my Endo Customs brown bib shorts:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53052227236Not pictured: the matching VEST!  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:52:53 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Gross! I am not wearing those boots or those…breeches. Or the menswear, but those sweaters are nice, and some of you would look nice in them. I propose that we keep the spirit of the thread going and post photos of us with our Rivs, showing off our bike style.LeahOn Sep 28, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:Here's an elegant little number from Belgium by way of Finland: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/belgian-breeches-wool-surplus/21642Ditch the boots for a nice pair of Dromartis. You don't even need the shirt.Some more serious possibilities here (men's page; I daresay they have a women's page too): https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/wool-and-dress-pants/843And wool pullover tops: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/pullovers-and-sweaters/131Merino hoodies: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/hoodies/1123Varusteleka have all sorts of new and remaindered sportswear and military surplus (Euro-surplus) and camping things too. Good stuff, tho' not cheap.Sorry, couldn't resist posting this one: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/genuine-soviet-cosmoline-anti-age-time-erasing-wonder/67431  Keeps your face looking young and your Kalashnikov rust-free. Also available in 150-litre barrels.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-09-28 Thread Leah Peterson
Gravel jersey with earth tones and purple is my favorite. Very nice!On Sep 28, 2023, at 6:48 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:Purple Rivendell Legolas:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803207773Purple Endo Customs Bib shorts:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803160685Gravel jersey with earthtone plaid and purple stripes:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52802196672Earthtone gravel shoes with purple socks:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52803207303My terrible blue gloves do not match the outfit. :(BL in ECOn Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:36:56 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:I've bought a lot of nice cycling clothing this year.  One Fit I really like is my Nature Morte outfit by Ostroy.  I think it goes nicely with my Endo Customs brown bib shorts:https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53052227236Not pictured: the matching VEST!  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:52:53 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Gross! I am not wearing those boots or those…breeches. Or the menswear, but those sweaters are nice, and some of you would look nice in them. I propose that we keep the spirit of the thread going and post photos of us with our Rivs, showing off our bike style.LeahOn Sep 28, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:Here's an elegant little number from Belgium by way of Finland: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/belgian-breeches-wool-surplus/21642Ditch the boots for a nice pair of Dromartis. You don't even need the shirt.Some more serious possibilities here (men's page; I daresay they have a women's page too): https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/wool-and-dress-pants/843And wool pullover tops: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/pullovers-and-sweaters/131Merino hoodies: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/hoodies/1123Varusteleka have all sorts of new and remaindered sportswear and military surplus (Euro-surplus) and camping things too. Good stuff, tho' not cheap.Sorry, couldn't resist posting this one: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/genuine-soviet-cosmoline-anti-age-time-erasing-wonder/67431  Keeps your face looking young and your Kalashnikov rust-free. Also available in 150-litre barrels.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-09-28 Thread Leah Peterson
Gross! I am not wearing those boots or those…breeches. Or the menswear, but those sweaters are nice, and some of you would look nice in them. I propose that we keep the spirit of the thread going and post photos of us with our Rivs, showing off our bike style.LeahOn Sep 28, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:Here's an elegant little number from Belgium by way of Finland: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/belgian-breeches-wool-surplus/21642Ditch the boots for a nice pair of Dromartis. You don't even need the shirt.Some more serious possibilities here (men's page; I daresay they have a women's page too): https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/wool-and-dress-pants/843And wool pullover tops: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/pullovers-and-sweaters/131Merino hoodies: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/group/hoodies/1123Varusteleka have all sorts of new and remaindered sportswear and military surplus (Euro-surplus) and camping things too. Good stuff, tho' not cheap.Sorry, couldn't resist posting this one: https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/genuine-soviet-cosmoline-anti-age-time-erasing-wonder/67431  Keeps your face looking young and your Kalashnikov rust-free. Also available in 150-litre barrels.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L: Color It Mine!

2023-09-20 Thread Leah Peterson
Maybe they will send you Rich-built wheels instead! I’m looking for a silver lining. I’m sorry, Kiley. Not the answer we were hoping for. But hang in there. Soon, RivSister. You’ll be out Clemmin’ before you know it. Any chance you can pop the wheels from your other bike on that one in the interim?On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:25 PM, Kiley Demond  wrote:Update to the UpdateStill no riding . The LBS working on the wheel said that after truing it, it went right back out after putting a load on it. They believe one end of alternating spokes/spoke holes weren't threaded when built. So... Riv is sending out two replacement wheels and I will send these back. Maybe riding Tuesday? Sigh.On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 5:30:31 PM UTC-7 Kiley Demond wrote:





I did it! I received the “BIS” (back in stock) email from Riv the weekend before last and bought a Clem L 59cm in blue! (I wonder where it was hiding in the warehouse or was it in a new container with Homers?)  I wanted an older gen in orange but what did I know? Blue is my second favorite color. Probably a better option because as a direct buyer of a new bike, the bike is warrantied as long as I own it. And the price was great! It hasn’t gone up in price so at $2050, a total bargain. And as a (female) American, I am motivated by a “deal” . 
And of course, getting to ride! I have a bike that I have been “using” in the interim. Quote marks because I didn’t use it more than a couple of times all summer. I think it was subconsciously too daunting because it didn’t feel safe & secure, which is a Riv cornerstone. (And, there are already people who have added electric pedal-assist, which is a distinct possibility for the future, and I will not have to re-invent the wheel 來.) My energy soared as soon as I completed the purchase. I am beset with new bike excitement!Update: Bike arrived in 5 days! Seat tube tang got bent a smidge by some transport company (turned the box upside down because those big ↑ on the box are not enough—fabricator beau fixed it in a minute; now I need to seal the seat tube opening due to paint being scraped off to bare steel). I have been busy the last couple of days with a friend's Celebration of Life, but can now turn my attention to my retirement bicycle! Let the pimping begin! Photos to follow when I get it a little further along. I have straddled it in my living room a couple of times and bless the 'L''! First ride tomorrow! I'm bck! 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-09-17 Thread Leah Peterson
See? Already my Bike Fashion Thread is changing the world. I’ll try to remain humble over here.LeahOn Sep 17, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:I've got three Ostroy resort shirts now... and two more in my "Cart". They are addictive.Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-7 bei...@gmail.com wrote:Leah, this thread is an awesome idea and I want a men’s version of your LL Bean jumper. That thing is awesome!Luke’s photos make me think that Rivendell should start selling turquoise jewelry under their “Silver” brand to accompany all Atlantises…men definitely need more accessories! My brother used to work at a local bike shop and got me hooked on wearing these “Resort Shirts” from Ostroy, which are great on warmer days and also really fun party shirts:https://ostroy.com/collections/resort-shirtsThat, paired with some Jcrew Dock Shorts and a pair of Bedrock sandals is my go-to bike fit for May-September. Whenever I wear pants on the bike, the drive side pant leg is always folded over to take in slack and tucked into my sock. - Christian in Colorado, who just learned how to respond to this group on a cell phone…On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 5:24:38 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy treating you? Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers to help me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking then as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants at the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to rectify this issue. However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the other side! On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the bike?The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, well…here’s a photo. I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers year-round.And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-09-16 Thread Leah Peterson
Steve - I love your style, both bike and outfit! How is that Platy treating you? Sally - great use of the poodle sock, and you know I fully support a matching Platypus! Though I do so love a Clem, too…I’m going to put on a fall outfit today, but I haven’t decided if it will be my freshly-hemmed wide leg trousers yet. I shudder when I think of trying to keep them out of the chainrings of my mermaid Platy. After years of skinny jeans they just seem SO WIDE. I did get more leg straps (pink!) so we’ll see. I’ll post a photo later, if I can get one of these teenagers to help me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:The late 90s were also my era. I was obsessed with mountain biking then as well, although I was less concerned about chain grease on my pants at the time. This old photo shows me riding pretty baggy jeans without a tucked cuff, but I recall I used to always wear longer socks and tuck my drive side pant leg in.  I also wore capri length baggy jeans in order to rectify this issue. However I will be skipping this wagon and sticking to snugger cuffed jeans so that I don't need to stress about this again. See you on the other side! On Saturday, 9 September 2023 at 07:13:39 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the bike?The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, well…here’s a photo. I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers year-round.And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-09-11 Thread Leah Peterson
Gosh, Danielle, I am so sorry to hear about you being hit by a car. So, so sorry. I would have never thought about wooden shoes but wow, I can see how they would have protected your foot. Were you hit on the Cheviot? And its still in working order? I was also wondering about the peg and fold because I was class of ‘99 - here I thought we had invented it but Bill’s generation had already been there done that!Dorothy, I did not know that you sew your own clothes, but that elevates you to an even higher status now that I do!Emily, yes, we are the same age! I love your ideas and will try the more aggressive folding. But I would love to see your wide-leg styles since I’m just getting into them.You RivSisters should definitely send us some bike style portraits. Don’t leave Luke and I hanging out here by ourselves!Off to work. Hope to see more in this thread when I get off at 2:30.LOn Sep 10, 2023, at 12:54 PM, danielle da cruz  wrote:Love the topic, the pics, and stand with Bill on the peg and fold (and the hairsprayed bangs though I'm class of '96)! And Leah, I feel your pain having recently greased up the leg of my new so-pale-blue-they're-nearly-white wide leg overalls.I ride to work and so don't dress only for my bike. In warmer weather I love a shorter dress (Cheviot rider here, though I'll rock a dress on the Roadini when it arrives) and love my sneaker pedals to bike in wooden clogs and wooden soled sandals. One of those probably saved my foot when I was hit on my way to work last summer. My ankle was broken, the shoe smashed to pieces, all foot bones intact :) I bought a second pair and wear them nearly every ride to work.For the transition seasons when I'm not yet in socks I do love a good peg and fold on the wide leg pants, just have to roll them high enough. Otherwise I'd do a tuck into a high sock. Please keep the suggestions and photos coming! DanielleOn Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 8:03:42 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go to is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true waist and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals very, very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I live that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have riding specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of my jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or any other pattern you come up with ! I've even used good ol' bandanas in a pinch. With the cord your pants retain their color as all you see is the little black cord wrapped around your leg. Some places may have have colored cord. A sewing supplier might also. I noticed in the photo Leah posted of her ankle with grease stain the cuff appears , how do I say . all flared out. I'd suggest when you wrap your leg,  pull your pants taught at the front, then fold the excess fabric around the outside of your leg so there's no excess fabric hanging out. Then put on your straps, leaving enough play for the knee to bend freely. As for what I wear, since I've gone back to deep drop bar road bike setups, I'm more in to road wear than ever as it's very functional and serves a very specific purpose. I had already been wearing bib shorts for the last 5 years, but since going lower and lower in drop none of my previous clothing works, there's, there's too much bulk and zippers rubbing on shorts, none of which is any good !I do have my own style and have a preference for certain color and combos. Even riding road clothes, you can dress "nice'. . as it's simply a mater of self respect. Most sold colors of subtle combos of complimentary colors, no silly patterns or other weird things some clothes designers come up with. Mostly it's European styles as I find their sense of function and style very relatable, unlike American stuff !  



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-09-10 Thread Leah Peterson
What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go to is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true waist and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals very, very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I live that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have riding specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of my jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or any other pattern you come up with ! I've even used good ol' bandanas in a pinch. With the cord your pants retain their color as all you see is the little black cord wrapped around your leg. Some places may have have colored cord. A sewing supplier might also. I noticed in the photo Leah posted of her ankle with grease stain the cuff appears , how do I say . all flared out. I'd suggest when you wrap your leg,  pull your pants taught at the front, then fold the excess fabric around the outside of your leg so there's no excess fabric hanging out. Then put on your straps, leaving enough play for the knee to bend freely. As for what I wear, since I've gone back to deep drop bar road bike setups, I'm more in to road wear than ever as it's very functional and serves a very specific purpose. I had already been wearing bib shorts for the last 5 years, but since going lower and lower in drop none of my previous clothing works, there's, there's too much bulk and zippers rubbing on shorts, none of which is any good !I do have my own style and have a preference for certain color and combos. Even riding road clothes, you can dress "nice'. . as it's simply a mater of self respect. Most sold colors of subtle combos of complimentary colors, no silly patterns or other weird things some clothes designers come up with. Mostly it's European styles as I find their sense of function and style very relatable, unlike American stuff !  



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-09-09 Thread Leah Peterson
Justus, I had never heard of these brands and looked them up - I love them. They are for men, but I would encourage other men on this list to shop there because the clothes look fantastic. Jealous!Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 9, 2023, at 11:15 AM, J G  wrote:While I still kit up (to a lesser or greater extent) for bigger rides, I converged biking and daily wear about a dozen years ago.  Search and State and Mission Workshop on the kit end and brands like Outlier and Swrve along with Icebreaker and the original Ibex provided daily wear options that performed well on a bike.  Outlier generally leaning a bit more to the office friendly and fashion end and Swrve with more gussets and articulation leans to the all day on a bike side.  Added bonus is that both companies work with interesting high performance fabrics with Outlier having that at its core and Swrve generally doing special runs via their blk_label line.  Both companies also originally had all of their production in NYC and SF respectively and I try and support small businesses with sound ethics where I can.  Speaking of that, Kitsbow would be another mention as I really liked their wool Icon shirts, but they have recently gone under.  Fashions change, style endures.  Keep wearing those skinny jeans and high boots if you like them.  Whatever gear makes a bike most accessible to you is the good stuff.-JustusMpls, MNOn Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 9:44:06 AM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:I empathize, Leah. Not being one for beausage in any area of life, I am okay with wear and character on boots, but not with chain grease on pants.  You might try various ankle straps; those with velcro seem to have limited effectiveness, as your experience suggest, and wear out over time. But there are many others out there that may be more effective, either with an extended strap mechanism or with a clip design (as seen in old British films).  I'm sure you can find a design that will have you rockin' the 90s grease-free!Tom (who commuted to campus by bike for years, mostly grease-free)On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:13:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the bike?The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, well…here’s a photo. I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers year-round.And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-09-09 Thread Leah Peterson
Bill, I absolutely employed the 90s tactic of pegging those pants! And they managed to be bunched up under that Riv band anyway. I did NOT, however, do the peg and fold - remember that?! The Aardvark band looks promising, albeit ugly and expensive. I’m wondering if a stack of regular bands would accomplish the same. We’ll find out when my Amazon order arrives.LSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:LeahRegarding keeping your pants grease free:  Rivendell sells the absolute best ankle strap for conspicuity. https://www.rivbike.com/products/ankle-reflector-rar?_pos=1&_psq=ankle&_ss=e&_v=1.0That legband is lousy for keeping your pants out of the chain.  The far better ankle band for keeping your pants out of the chain is the Aardvark Ankle Biters:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/303745533555 Every bike should have one of these wrapped around the handlebar for easy use.  It also doubles very well as a parking brake.  Remember how we used to "peg" our jeans or trousers?  That's how you use an ankle strap.  Take a fold of fabric at your shin, fold it AWAY from the centerline of the bike and then strap that down with the ankle strap.  Don't just bunch up your pant leg and let it flare out like a tutu on the bottom.  That's still going to get into the chain.  Let me know if that's not clear, and I'll do a photo essay for you.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 7:13:39 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the bike?The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, well…here’s a photo. I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers year-round.And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do you wear what you want? Do you even care? Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel differently if the pants were a lighter color. Leah



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Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

2023-09-03 Thread Leah Peterson
If you’re a RivSister who is also a nurse I love you extra! A double sisterhood.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 3, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Bones  wrote:For whatever reason I have never considered a trailer. I always assumed we could communicate and enjoy the ride better if the kids were on the bike with me. I started my oldest at nine months, which was when the tiniest helmet I could find would fit her massive head. The front mount seat is the best in my opinion. You can interact a lot more and they get to see everything you see. Once she outgrew that I moved her to a rear seat, and put lil man in the front. Eventually they reached the weight limits and I switched over to a cargo bike (Xtracycle Stoker). Now big sis, lil man and baby girl all fit on the back. We go everywhere on it. Love it. I was able to get rid of a car and I can accommodate all three kids easily.BonesOn Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 12:06:31 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:We used a Burley double-wide when our kids were 2 and 3.5...We hooked it to my husband's old Giant mountain bike. Traffic was non-existent or very light since we lived on a small island. The kids liked it because they could bring various stuffed animals, so we could get a long-ish ride in ...When we moved to San Diego, the trailer seemed too wide for the streets so we got a Tag-a-long...it didn't seem as safe and, by that time, the kids wanted to ride their own bikes...so we didn't use it much. (P.S. I'm another nurse...seems like nurses choose Rivendell, ha!)On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:28:45 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:+1 for a trailer. One advantage of a trailer is that you can use it with a bike that is not well suited for a heavy load on the rear rack; and I agree, they don't change the handling and feel of the bike as much as a big and high rear-rack weight does. And they allow easier mounting.Mine was a "doublewide" and let me combine child hauling with grocery shopping: my daughter and I would combine bicycle fun with grocery shopping on Saturday mornings, she on one side, the paper grocery sacks on the other, usually with a helium balloon or two in our slipstream.My tractor was a early-edition Raleigh Technium sports tourer, a tank with long stays and flexy tubes stuck into gaspipe lugs, but with 32 mm tires (fat at the time, early '00s) it was very plush. I had it set up with a 67" fixed gear, just right: low enough to grunt Catie and groceries up minor hills or pull the doublewide against headwinds, fast enough to keep up with modest tailwinds.You don't need a name brand. I forget what I had; it was decent but not a Burley or a Thule; Avocet? It worked fine and by the time you get to the point of experiencing the longevity of an expensive brand your child has long outgrown it. I did later get a used Burley trail-a-bike but by the time my daughter was old enough to ride it she was embarrassed to be seen on it and demanded her own bike.On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 7:05 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:A trailer is the safest option. If you go that route I would consider a Thule or older Chariot (these can be had very inexpensively). They have weight adjustable suspension and you can use an infant sling. The general age recommendation is to wait until 12-18 months but we certainly started closer to 6 months (My wife and I are both nurse practitioners and got the Ok from his pediatrician). It will very from child to child but once they are demonstrating strong head and neck control they should be ok in an infant sling.I personally prefer a Thule Maxi seat on a rack behind me. It’s just nice not having to deal with the weight and logistics of a trailer. We only just started doing that on our Cargo E bike now that he’s 16 months and gets to ride to daycare. EliotOn Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 5:54 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:Hi Kushan,Oh, I so know that excitement you feel about introducing your baby to biking. It’s wonderful that you want to share it and it will be such a bonding experience between the both of you as he grows up.Is the plan to put him in a bike seat on your bike? Or in a cargo bike? In a car seat inside a cargo bike? I think the last option is the only one I could safely recommend, and maybe not even that. I am a nurse, and I won’t ever forget the part of our pediatrics training that talked about the microtears that can be caused even by bouncing a baby too hard. You can damage their little eyes, their brains, and their neck muscles, which really aren’t meant to support much until after one year of age. Now, if a pediatrician happens to be on here and would like to offer advice, I’d love to hear it, but from what I can remember in peds training, it wouldn’t be safe to take baby on a bike seat until next year. I’m sorry!LeahOn Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:58:35 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:Looking for wisdom and advice from the Riv community on riding bikes with babies on them. At what age did you start? What seats, trailers, etc did you 

Re: [RBW] Riv Ride: Chicago Lakefront Trail Recap

2023-09-01 Thread Leah Peterson
Takashi, you’re the sweetest. ❤️Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 1, 2023, at 11:03 AM, Takashi  wrote:Great video and writeup as always, Leah!It's a great thing that we have such a great storyteller in this group so that members who couldn't join the ride still can enjoy your post.
Thank you for sharing.

Takashi



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Re: [RBW] Upcoming Riv Ride: Chicago

2023-08-28 Thread Leah Peterson
Those clouds obscured Gene’s penchant for fun color on that Clem. It took me a few miles before I caught it and when I did, I shrieked that Gene is my people. His Clem was wild! We really need to see it in sunlight, if you have pics, Gene. Post them here and wow us with your colors.On Aug 28, 2023, at 10:12 AM, Gene B  wrote:It's all gravyyy. I had a great time, thanks for the invite! It was super cool to meet everyone/see everyone's rides. I'm new to the world of Rivendell ownership/ridership (this was literally my third or fourth time riding my Clem (and first >10 mile ride on it)), so this was a memorable one for me. Also shout out to the Mack's folks - Sam for being hospitable as always, and Arb who serviced my rear wheel minutes before we set out on the ride.I'll keep an eye out for the next one!On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 9:21:44 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Scott and Gene - this just arrived in my inbox! I am sorry it didn’t arrive before the ride. I would hate to think you felt ignored! Thanks for coming. I just posted the ride video on a new thread. Also, it’s here:<370771313_3561386334134504_7836472598718726022_n.jpg>Leah Peterson on Instagram: "We had 10 riders join us for our Chicago ride yesterday!

In attendance: 
1 silver Appaloosa (fun fact: it belonged to Will Keating) 
1 green Hunq
1 A. Homer Hilsen
2 Sam Hillbornes
1 lime olive Clem L
1 yellow Legolas
1 Rivendell road custum
1 red Erickson
1 raspberry Platypus

We began at @macksbikeandgoods in Evanston, where we were greeted warmly by Sam and Kelly Mack. They graciously set out coffee and refreshments, took photos and talked all the bike talk with our riders as we shopped their excellent store. If you are in the area, please go and see them; they carry all of our favorite things. We took photos and belatedly hit the road.

We had several miles to ride before connecting with Chicago’s famous Lakefront Trail. The clouds were thick and the winds were high. We dodged triathletes, throngs of people, and later, the Chicago Bears fans. We were treated to gorgeous scenery and the sounds of crashing waves on the shores of Lake Michigan as we pedalinstagram.comOn Aug 27, 2023, at 9:20 PM, Scott Marriott <smar...@gmail.com> wrote:Any updates to this one yet? It will be good to visit the new location of Mack's either way. Scott, Chicago (Hyde Park)On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:49:36 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Just a reminder to mark your calendars for the Chicago Riv Ride on Aug 26th! We’ll start at Mack’s Bike and Goods, the Evanston Riv dealer, at 1030 and hit the Lakefront Trail from there. We’ll get lunch on the trail, admire each other’s bikes and make new friends. See you then.Leah and MarcOn Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 6:13:34 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m grateful for all the suggestions and may have questions for some of you later. Marc is out of town and I’ll chat with him when he gets back and we’ll finalize the plan…which may include winging it and deciding on the route at the shop!At any rate, sounds like we are going to get to meet a lot of new people and see their bikes and for that, I’m thrilled.Thanks for being so fun!LeahOn Aug 5, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Jason <jrober...@gmail.com> wrote:Hey Hash, glad you think the route is good -- and that's a solid point on Sheridan. My map was a bit of a quick sketch to show a concept of potential destinations, but I just made a couple updates/improvements based on a ride I took up to Baha'i and down the Lakefront Trail in June. Connecting to the LFT from Evanston now shows much less of Sheridan and much more residential neighborhood before hitting Ardmore and the lake. That said, I'm certain there are other ways to improve the connections. Whatever direction the Chicago Riv Ride takes, I think it would probably be worth getting advice from the folks at Mack's.On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-5 Hash wrote:Hey Jason, route looks great and I've wanted to see the Bahai house for a minute. Not sure of any alternatives, but throwing it out there that ride down Sheridan is pretty brutal with cars and lack of bike lanes.On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:59:12 AM UTC-5 Jason wrote:Looks like great fun. I hope to attend. Thanks for organizing this, Leah and Marc! If we are considering other route options, as others are suggesting perhaps the North Branch Tail could be combined with the Lake Front Trail. I sketched a quick route from Mack's south on the LFT to the North Avenue Beach, then back north on the LFT until cutting west to Half Acre Beer Co., which has food, beer, and an outdoor patio. From there, the ride could connect back to Mack's via the North Branch Trail, but before stopping, see the nearby Baháʼí House of Worship. Here's a map of that concept.JasonOak Park, ILOn Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 9:04:52 AM UTC-5 codyt...@gmail.com wrote:I don't disagree with anything anyone has said about Navy Pier or the L

Re: [RBW] Upcoming Riv Ride: Chicago

2023-08-27 Thread Leah Peterson
Scott and Gene - this just arrived in my inbox! I am sorry it didn’t arrive before the ride. I would hate to think you felt ignored! Thanks for coming. I just posted the ride video on a new thread. Also, it’s here:Leah Peterson on Instagram: "We had 10 riders join us for our Chicago ride yesterday!

In attendance: 
1 silver Appaloosa (fun fact: it belonged to Will Keating) 
1 green Hunq
1 A. Homer Hilsen
2 Sam Hillbornes
1 lime olive Clem L
1 yellow Legolas
1 Rivendell road custum
1 red Erickson
1 raspberry Platypus

We began at @macksbikeandgoods in Evanston, where we were greeted warmly by Sam and Kelly Mack. They graciously set out coffee and refreshments, took photos and talked all the bike talk with our riders as we shopped their excellent store. If you are in the area, please go and see them; they carry all of our favorite things. We took photos and belatedly hit the road.

We had several miles to ride before connecting with Chicago’s famous Lakefront Trail. The clouds were thick and the winds were high. We dodged triathletes, throngs of people, and later, the Chicago Bears fans. We were treated to gorgeous scenery and the sounds of crashing waves on the shores of Lake Michigan as we pedalinstagram.comOn Aug 27, 2023, at 9:20 PM, Scott Marriott  wrote:Any updates to this one yet? It will be good to visit the new location of Mack's either way. Scott, Chicago (Hyde Park)On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:49:36 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Just a reminder to mark your calendars for the Chicago Riv Ride on Aug 26th! We’ll start at Mack’s Bike and Goods, the Evanston Riv dealer, at 1030 and hit the Lakefront Trail from there. We’ll get lunch on the trail, admire each other’s bikes and make new friends. See you then.Leah and MarcOn Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 6:13:34 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m grateful for all the suggestions and may have questions for some of you later. Marc is out of town and I’ll chat with him when he gets back and we’ll finalize the plan…which may include winging it and deciding on the route at the shop!At any rate, sounds like we are going to get to meet a lot of new people and see their bikes and for that, I’m thrilled.Thanks for being so fun!LeahOn Aug 5, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Jason  wrote:Hey Hash, glad you think the route is good -- and that's a solid point on Sheridan. My map was a bit of a quick sketch to show a concept of potential destinations, but I just made a couple updates/improvements based on a ride I took up to Baha'i and down the Lakefront Trail in June. Connecting to the LFT from Evanston now shows much less of Sheridan and much more residential neighborhood before hitting Ardmore and the lake. That said, I'm certain there are other ways to improve the connections. Whatever direction the Chicago Riv Ride takes, I think it would probably be worth getting advice from the folks at Mack's.On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-5 Hash wrote:Hey Jason, route looks great and I've wanted to see the Bahai house for a minute. Not sure of any alternatives, but throwing it out there that ride down Sheridan is pretty brutal with cars and lack of bike lanes.On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:59:12 AM UTC-5 Jason wrote:Looks like great fun. I hope to attend. Thanks for organizing this, Leah and Marc! If we are considering other route options, as others are suggesting perhaps the North Branch Tail could be combined with the Lake Front Trail. I sketched a quick route from Mack's south on the LFT to the North Avenue Beach, then back north on the LFT until cutting west to Half Acre Beer Co., which has food, beer, and an outdoor patio. From there, the ride could connect back to Mack's via the North Branch Trail, but before stopping, see the nearby Baháʼí House of Worship. Here's a map of that concept.JasonOak Park, ILOn Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 9:04:52 AM UTC-5 codyt...@gmail.com wrote:I don't disagree with anything anyone has said about Navy Pier or the LFT. Once you hit North Ave it's pretty busy and becomes a different kind of ride, you're either slowing or dodging. But the location of Navy Pier makes sense given the mileage goal. And it's more or less a food court, so from an organizer's perspective it's an easy place for a group to eat lunch. (Since I've had kids my views on Navy Pier have softened.) Depending on start time, pace, and number of riders, it might be worthwhile to consider holding off on lunch until after the midpoint. I don't typically ride  the LFT on weekends, at least not north of the museums, but I'd be happy to do it for a Riv ride. Looping around to the Channel Trail is a good idea, it's far less crowded. Also happy to do Bike the Drive with some fellow Riv riders - it's Sunday, September 3, though my son and I will be riding at a 9 year-old's pace.CodyChicago   On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 8:21 AM Marc Irwin  wrote:We don't plan to go as far as McCormick Place.  We're open to suggestions 

Re: [RBW] Upcoming Riv Ride: Chicago

2023-08-25 Thread Leah Peterson
Chicago Riv Ride tomorrow, Aug 26th!Mack’s Bike and Goods are expecting us at 10:30 am, where we’ll start. We will meet, take photos, shop at their excellent store, and hit the Lakefront Trail. We expect 35-40 miles of fun, with lunch on the route somewhere. Bring your favorite Rivendell and make merry with us tomorrow in Chicago! And if you know you’re coming, please say so in the comments below. Mack’s would like a headcount as they plan to have some refreshments.Leah and MarcOn Aug 24, 2023, at 7:39 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:We are going to get good weather by the skin of our TEETH. The city hit a record high yesterday but a cold front is on the way to save our Riv Ride. Hope to see everyone there on Saturday! LeahOn Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 10:08:14 PM UTC-4 R. Alexis wrote:Wish it was a different weekend. Would give me an excuse to get back to the Chi and bring the Rivendell Mountain with.  Look forward to seeing pics and posts.Thanks,Reginald AlexisOn Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 1:49:36 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Just a reminder to mark your calendars for the Chicago Riv Ride on Aug 26th! We’ll start at Mack’s Bike and Goods, the Evanston Riv dealer, at 1030 and hit the Lakefront Trail from there. We’ll get lunch on the trail, admire each other’s bikes and make new friends. See you then.Leah and MarcOn Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 6:13:34 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m grateful for all the suggestions and may have questions for some of you later. Marc is out of town and I’ll chat with him when he gets back and we’ll finalize the plan…which may include winging it and deciding on the route at the shop!At any rate, sounds like we are going to get to meet a lot of new people and see their bikes and for that, I’m thrilled.Thanks for being so fun!LeahOn Aug 5, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Jason  wrote:Hey Hash, glad you think the route is good -- and that's a solid point on Sheridan. My map was a bit of a quick sketch to show a concept of potential destinations, but I just made a couple updates/improvements based on a ride I took up to Baha'i and down the Lakefront Trail in June. Connecting to the LFT from Evanston now shows much less of Sheridan and much more residential neighborhood before hitting Ardmore and the lake. That said, I'm certain there are other ways to improve the connections. Whatever direction the Chicago Riv Ride takes, I think it would probably be worth getting advice from the folks at Mack's.On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-5 Hash wrote:Hey Jason, route looks great and I've wanted to see the Bahai house for a minute. Not sure of any alternatives, but throwing it out there that ride down Sheridan is pretty brutal with cars and lack of bike lanes.On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:59:12 AM UTC-5 Jason wrote:Looks like great fun. I hope to attend. Thanks for organizing this, Leah and Marc! If we are considering other route options, as others are suggesting perhaps the North Branch Tail could be combined with the Lake Front Trail. I sketched a quick route from Mack's south on the LFT to the North Avenue Beach, then back north on the LFT until cutting west to Half Acre Beer Co., which has food, beer, and an outdoor patio. From there, the ride could connect back to Mack's via the North Branch Trail, but before stopping, see the nearby Baháʼí House of Worship. Here's a map of that concept.JasonOak Park, ILOn Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 9:04:52 AM UTC-5 codyt...@gmail.com wrote:I don't disagree with anything anyone has said about Navy Pier or the LFT. Once you hit North Ave it's pretty busy and becomes a different kind of ride, you're either slowing or dodging. But the location of Navy Pier makes sense given the mileage goal. And it's more or less a food court, so from an organizer's perspective it's an easy place for a group to eat lunch. (Since I've had kids my views on Navy Pier have softened.) Depending on start time, pace, and number of riders, it might be worthwhile to consider holding off on lunch until after the midpoint. I don't typically ride  the LFT on weekends, at least not north of the museums, but I'd be happy to do it for a Riv ride. Looping around to the Channel Trail is a good idea, it's far less crowded. Also happy to do Bike the Drive with some fellow Riv riders - it's Sunday, September 3, though my son and I will be riding at a 9 year-old's pace.CodyChicago   On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 8:21 AM Marc Irwin  wrote:We don't plan to go as far as McCormick Place.  We're open to suggestions for lunch, I picked Navy Pier as a convenient turnaround point for a 35 mile ride from Mack's.MarcOn Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 8:37:55 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:I'm sort of in.  There are sections of the Lakefront trail that are great.  I'd recommend avoiding North Avenue to McCormick Place on a Saturday in August.  Also, Navy Pier has little redeeming cultural value and the LFT is a disaster 

Re: [RBW] Re: What to get, what to get....

2023-08-21 Thread Leah Peterson
Ha! It’s not out of the question that I would do such a thing! I have a recurring nightmare that my bike gets stolen and then somehow by the end of the dream I find an extra frame in the garage and it’s ok. But I think Ariel had a 60, so too big!Kiley, I hope you find your dream Riv soon! Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 21, 2023, at 1:28 PM, jaredwilson  wrote:Leah,Mine is going to a sweet kid down in Los Angeles as his first Rivendell, couldn't be more happy for him.Kiley was offered first right of refusal on Ariel's bike, I will be listing hers in the next day or so. I did however have a dream last night that you purchased it as some sort of reserve of Platypus goodnessjaredOn Monday, August 21, 2023 at 4:42:49 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I see Jared’s 60 Platy sold…are you the lucky new owner, Kiley? LeahOn Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 9:53:21 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:@ Kiley - a Rivendell Clem 59cm would fit you best only in size, but your all around needs as stated by Johnny.Kim HetzelYelm, WA. On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 3:37:46 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:Rivendell is going to replace the Susie/Gus line with something lugged (I think) but that is going to be far down the line. You said you lusted after a Clem L. What about one of those? They are at least related to the hillybike family (susie/gus) and would meet everything you seem to want.On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 6:25:15 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:Piggybacking on what Joe just said, PM sent :)jaredOn Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 3:19:25 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:Did you like the Cheviot? The current (slightly longer) version is the Platypus; now with canti/v-brakes I would consider it a low-stepover equivalent to Appaloosa. You would probably ride a 60cm. On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 2:39:50 PM UTC-7 Kiley Demond wrote:Hi- Formerly an active participant, I am now merely an inconsistent lurker so I may well be asking questions already addressed. I will gracefully accept links to previous conversations that answer the questions.Since I am approaching this with a wide range of 'acceptable' answers, no need to limit responses to Rivendell-only possibilities. I know that you know what I mean when asking for certain things, such as a steel step-thru frame with great ride-ability and room for wider tires . I don't have to explain why those things are important. My dream is a step-thru frame that is long enough in the chain stay to be stable and handle-well, but not so long as to be cumbersome. With a PBH of 91 on a 5'10" person, I need all the help I can get with a large bike that remains wieldy (I assume that is a word). Ideally, it could be fitted to be a pedal-assist electric bike at some future time.Riding: 20% pavement, 60% gravel/sand/dirt, 20% trails. Want wide-ish tires but don't want to be a slug on pavement. (Of course, what I want and physics may not agree.)1. Is there a new Riv bike on the horizon? I vaguely remember reading about one, but I could be out of step with reality. This Q is the real impetus of this post.2. In the non-Riv world, is there anything along these lines? Perhaps one that may have (the pleasantries of) disc brakes and an internal hub?  3. Step-thru frames for the tall?  Perhaps available in northern Europe where the bike-lovers are frequently tall? I once imported a Dutch bike, so purchasing options don't have to be restricted to the U.S. (It did not handle particularly well and made my Cheviot look positively svelte.)My actual Riv experience has been a Cheviot I owned for a couple of years and lusting after a Clem L. I used to live in the Bay Area and went to Walnut Creek on a couple of occasions so I rode a few others, but no memory on the specifics. Sometimes, I think a mixte-style Appaloosa would be ideal (want to get a 64cm Appy for my HE (husband-equivalent). The list of bikes I have owned in my life is obscene and not particularly useful for discussion, especially because it only underscores the lack of rideable bikes for people with atypical geometry. I loved riding my Riv and want that joy again. I am not in a (huge) hurry and will wait for the right ride. Thank you to all the Riv fans answering Qs on the forum!



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Re: [RBW] A College Clem

2023-08-18 Thread Leah Peterson
Hi David, Thank you for asking about Dad. Dad was a darling, the kind of man you love to love. He died too young, only 62.Dad taught me many things, but this is a lesson he never meant to teach…Dad took meticulous care of his things. He collected historical books and had each one jacketed at our local library. He never used soap in the whirlpool, believing it would wreck it. He put a tablecloth over their Amish-made dining room table, fearing that the wood would be scratched. He was gentle and careful and he tried to keep his things looking new. He always said when he retired he would buy two things: a new pickup and a new boat. He got a ding in the prop of that new boat and agonized over it. He planned to replace the propeller so it would look new again. He hesitated to trailer the boat to my brother’s house across the state, fearing some sort of cosmetic damage would befall it. (Mom forced his hand because she wanted to take the grandkids boating.) He got his new truck but mostly drove his old one, wanting to “keep the miles off” the new one. The beautiful, expensive new truck sat, parked in the driveway. He died suddenly, soon after retiring. The truck was the first thing we sold. Dad taught me a lot of things, but his final, unintended lesson taught me not to sit on my treasures, but to use them and enjoy them. Thanks again,LeahSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 18, 2023, at 12:37 PM, David Jones  wrote:Well, Leah, you sure opened up a thread that everyone seems to want to weigh in on, and a thread that seems to be enjoying a longevity that few can match.One thought I had that hasn't been covered by anyone, yet, is:  "What would your father's wishes be for this bike?  Which of the different actions you are considering would honor his memory to the fullest degree possible?" My original, brief, response was to keep it home during college to protect it from being stolen.  My thinking was that "it's a long life" and your son will have a better chance of staying connected to his grandfather by having decades to enjoy riding the bike.  But if your father was a person who was a "pin your ears back" risk taker who approached life as if there were no guarantees of tomorrow or appreciated a certain detachment to "things," then by all means "seize the day" and send the bike with your son to college, fully recognizing the inherent risks involved and, hopefully, having made peace with the possibility of him graduating from college without the bike in his possession.David JonesOn Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 12:52 PM Davey Two Shoes  wrote:Send Grandpa's Clem! On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:29:17 PM UTC-4 Will wrote:Oh yes it might help a bit if the bike didn't look so new. With a few duct tape patches that can be easily solved without hurting the frame. On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:24:24 PM UTC-5 Will wrote:When I was in college I had a Raleigh Competition and a Raleigh RRA (French metric Raleigh bike). It was a small campus in Williamsburg, VA. I had no problems with either bike. Yes, I locked them. Yes, I didn't leave them out at night and so on, but my point is... with a good U lock and maybe some wheel theft clamps, I think you'll be fine. No one is looking for a classic steel bike  these days. Now they want carbon and disc brakes. And there are plenty of those bikes to steal. I'd give him the Clem. WillOn Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:05:31 PM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:I've been thinking about this situation a lot. (And thinking back about 20 years to my time in college.) I was from a small town, and went to a large public school. I learned a lot, and a lot of learning is through mistakes. I did lots of dumb stuff, and minus the time I went flying over the handlebars and got an ambulance ride, I was lucky to escape without life-altering implications. My grandpa died when I was in college, and I still treasure a few small items I have from him. Ultimately, things are things, but some things mean more than others. It will be up to your family to decide the best route. I'm not sure it's been mentioned before, but any thought to taking an entirely different bike first semester/first year with the plan to revisit taking the Clem second semester/sophomore year? Good luck with your decision.Matt in STLOn Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 2:56:34 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:Great story Mackenzy! I think many of us started on BMX bikes. I was an 80s kid and the group of guys in my neighborhood all had BMX bikes. In college I rode a Trek mountain bike (low end) but also had a car so the bike was primarily for exercise. I tried single speed a few years ago and really enjoy the simplicity of it even with the limitations.DougOn Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:31:13 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:Admittedly, I had almost the exact opposite issue as a college student. I grew up without cyclists in my family, and think it's so rad that there are parents like Leah to give a good starting point of living a happily 

Re: [RBW] A College Clem

2023-08-15 Thread Leah Peterson
John,Over the years I have found this forum to be extremely helpful. The willingness of members to answer elementary questions from someone just entering the bike world has been invaluable. I’ve always been appreciative, and I have made it a point to say so.But here on our forum, there also exists an undercurrent of condescension. Every now and again, seemingly out of the blue, someone will pitch a mean comment and change the conversation. It’s happened to me several times, and I’ll never get used to it. We can have 75 helpful posts offering experience and well thought-out opinions and then suddenly one person chimes in with a question that sounds very much like sarcasm. It’s part of the culture of this forum, and it’s unfortunate.John #1’s question could have been genuine, but if so it was poorly phrased, so I doubt it. John #2’s (yours) was out of line and can only be received as rude. I’ve lived long enough that when I hear “calm down” I know it’s usually a man saying it to a woman. If you doubt me, ask yourself if you’d have said these same words to Bill Lindsay. To the rest of you, thank you! I have had so much to think about, thanks to your excellent points and stories about your own experiences on college campuses. And that is all I have to say on the matter.LeahOn Aug 15, 2023, at 1:57 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Leah, please take a breath and count to 10.John's question wasn't rude, and was a fair question in that the strength of his desire for a bike at college could correlate to the amount of attention he would give to keeping the bike secure.You did ask for people's opinions, so please just ignore those you don't like.John On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 2:22:12 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:John,Text makes it hard to tell sometimes, so I suppose I’ll ask.1. Is your question asked because you have the perfect bike waiting for him that you would like to gift him?2. Is your question being asked because you are genuinely confused about the topic of the conversation?3. Or is your question posed so as to look down on me, as if I was imposing my choices on my son?If #1, no thank you, we have 2 good Clems to choose from.If #2, I would direct you to the beginning of the thread. Freshman don’t have cars at the campus we’re looking at, and one needs alternate transportation.If #3, I’ll not dignify your question with any answer. LeahOn Aug 14, 2023, at 9:52 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:LeahI might I missed it, but does your son want a bike at collegeJohn HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:09:58 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Wow, since the boys were in elementary school, Ryan, that’s a long time! But yes, I started out in late 2012 with a Betty and was pulling the younger one on his “one-wheeler.” 



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Re: [RBW] A College Clem

2023-08-15 Thread Leah Peterson
John,Text makes it hard to tell sometimes, so I suppose I’ll ask.1. Is your question asked because you have the perfect bike waiting for him that you would like to gift him?2. Is your question being asked because you are genuinely confused about the topic of the conversation?3. Or is your question posed so as to look down on me, as if I was imposing my choices on my son?If #1, no thank you, we have 2 good Clems to choose from.If #2, I would direct you to the beginning of the thread. Freshman don’t have cars at the campus we’re looking at, and one needs alternate transportation.If #3, I’ll not dignify your question with any answer. LeahOn Aug 14, 2023, at 9:52 PM, 'John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:LeahI might I missed it, but does your son want a bike at collegeJohn HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:09:58 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Wow, since the boys were in elementary school, Ryan, that’s a long time! But yes, I started out in late 2012 with a Betty and was pulling the younger one on his “one-wheeler.” 



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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: 60cm Platypus frameset for my 64 Clem L

2023-08-10 Thread Leah Peterson
Well, I for one, am glad to hear it. Waiting for the next round of Platypuses is probably going to take too long, and it’s still riding season NOW. So, I’m thrilled for you and I hope you will post photos and give us your thorough review!LeahOn Aug 10, 2023, at 9:52 AM, Justin Kennedy  wrote:Ended up ordering that 60cm Platy from C Will keep you posted with the build etc. Selling my Clem to a friend. Cheers everyone. On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:23:53 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:Love those green Cheviuts, something about the blue accents really works.Justin, best of luck with your search!jaredOn Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 5:06:34 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:39:12 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:That Cheviot is HOT! That bike had one of the best headbadges.On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 7:34:30 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:As far as club rides are concerned for and with the Clem, I would say yes, if most everyone in the group is moving at a slow pace. Kim Hetzel. On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:28:51 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:@Doug - I share with you in very similar view points, regarding riding my Clem, too. I ride solo. I am not in a big hurry to get where I am going. 
I enjoy the ride. Yes, it is a heavy bike.
I do not know how much it weighs.

However, I am not bothered by the weight, because of it is truly the most comfortable bicycle for me as a senior cyclist; an upright riding position, low gears, a long wheelbase, stable handling and the Bosco bars are most ideal. For the record, I have no other experience riding any other Rivendell bicycles to compare my Clem with. I do not feel the need to, because my Clem suits my needs extraordinarily well. Kim HetzelYelm, WA. On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 10:58:55 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:Speed is not an issue for me and my ole Clem as I ride almost exclusively solo. My question about Clem/Platypus was again in jest. Leah has ridden both more than most and so her opinion and comparison has credibility to me. That being said, I like the style of the Clem better which is obviously the most subjective take one can make between two bicycles. Me and ole Clem just mosey down the road and whatever speed is comfortable and have a jolly ole time doing it.DougOn Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:Johnny, Her Clem and Platypus (the one she uses on club rides) have similar builds (including the wheelsets) so you can take that out of the equation. The frames are not the same, Platy is a lighter-tubed pavement-oriented bike patterned after the Sam Hillborne. I'm quite sure she's right that head to head the Platy is going to be a bit easier to push hard in a group, and it doesn't have to be a major difference to be the difference between keeping up and feeling like you're struggling in a group of carbon dropbar bikes. Which I think is all she's saying, it's her opinion from her experience. Can you club ride a Clem? Sure, knock yourself out! It's just an opinion from someone who owns both bikes. Anyway, somebody sell Justin a 60cm Platy! Joe Bernard On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 5:47:19 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:Haha! You can indeed be shocking. My point is that the Platy is not really a club rider. It can be made to be closer to one but you don't have it decked out that way. If I was going to use it for fast rides I would lose the fenders and racks, go to light drops with brifters, even lighter wheels (I know that analog and HOW build great wheels that can be pretty light but I can bet that it doesn't have less than 32 spokes because they focus on really good solid wheels not the absolute lightest), do you have lights on it?? I can't remember...those would go if they are there. And at the end of the day you would still have a slack geometry and LONG wheelbase thats not typical go fast geometry. And none of that is being critical because you know its not ideal in fact I always took your point in all of to be that any good bike can be used for that if you want to. There is not a world of difference between a Platy and a Clem. The biggest thing is the beauty of the frame and the lugs. I don't doubt you felt a difference but there are lots of factors that could be coming in to play. People tend to put robust wheels on Clems because they are a workhorse and a commuter and they treat it as such and tires make sure a huge difference. But it could be many things.I have light supple wheels set up tubeless on mine with a good wheelset and I can feel the geometry difference between it and my road focused Gallop more than anything else. But the geometry difference between the Platy and Clem is not that extreme. It was built to be lugless and affordable not necessarily more robust (although I am sure to a degree it is). I would be shocked if there was any major weight difference between the two frames when stripped down.On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:19:02 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I can be shocking! But I had 

Re: [RBW] Re: A College Clem

2023-08-09 Thread Leah Peterson
There is no new generation H. They were discontinued after a short while. The old L models are shorter than the new models. I have a 2019 Clem L and it is much longer than the 2015 Clementine my MIL owned.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 9, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Kim H.  wrote:@Leah -Thank-you.  Do you know, if both the first generation Clem H and L models are both shorter than the new generation Clem H and L models ?Kim HetzelYelm, WA. On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 9:22:49 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Not these two Clems - the H is a first generation model, which was shorter AND it’s a 52.On Aug 9, 2023, at 12:14 PM, Kim H.  wrote:@
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-Does the Clem H and the Clem L have the same wheelbase or not ?I know my Clem L from the outer length from end to end of the wheels measures close to 80" long. Too long for a bike rack for a transit bus is my belief.Kim HetzelYelm, WA. On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 7:36:47 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:I mean the fallback is to take the smaller Clem H. It will be easier to get onto public transport bike racks and be easier to slot into a dorm at night too. The choice doesn't have to be Clem L or total beater. That Clem H is a killer bike that has slightly less sentimental value if it happens to get stolen. If it doesn't then he knows he can go with the bigger one the next semester. On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 9:58:42 AM UTC-4 Curtis wrote:If this is a question of bicycle happiness level (BHL)for a first year college student we may be spending more energy on this than we should.  Difficult to judge the BHL for an 18 y.o. when we are looking at this through our rose or not so rose colored glasses.  Who is to say the student on the 100 dollar "beater" has a different BHL compared to the student on the 2500 dollar bicycle?  Perhaps only the rider knows.Perhaps we should hope that the student is indifferent about the bicycle they ride and are focused on the task at hand.  If this bicycle and not that bicycle makes the student happier at college then pick this bicycle.Peace,CurtisOn Wed, Aug 9, 2023, 4:47 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:Wow, this thread has generated a lot of response, and I’ve enjoyed reading every post. It’s such a shame we have to go to extremes to avoid bike theft - carrying heavy u-locks, being so choosy about parking and locking, replacing parts, making the bike ugly, choosing to ride an undesirable bike so we can preserve our desirable bike…Then there’s the other variable - how careful is the kid going to be with the bike? Well, bikes are not precious to him. He likes his bike, sees beauty and usefulness in it, but please do not bore him with too many details about it. I don’t think he will worry about it like I would; and that may lead to carelessness that gets his bike stolen. But also, he has the Mr. Magoo-like quality of walking through life blissfully unaware of the evil that lurks around every corner and arriving unscathed at his destination. The campus in question does not have a lot of bike pirates roaming about, although yes, I know they exist everywhere. But they are not prolific on this particular campus. I’m still undecided about what bike to send, but any bike that goes with him will get skewers that are locked and nuts that prevent the theft of stem, saddle and seat post. Hexlox makes all these products, if anyone is wondering. We’ll have good u-locks, too. And thanks to Jim for the mention of coverage under homeowners’ insurance. I’ll be looking into that for sure. LeahOn Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:04:07 PM UTC-4 nlerner wrote:Similar to Mackenzy, I’ve been bike commuting to college campuses for many decades, the last 30 of which have been in the Boston area. I’ve never had a bike stolen likely because (1) I use a decent lock and (2) never park it outside overnight. I have colleagues who would never leave their bikes outside at all and schlep them up to their offices, navigating too small elevators and lots of doorways, but I’ve never seen the need. Sure, bikes get stolen around here all the time, but I’m convinced those are the ones easiest to steal, e.g., unlocked on a porch or in a backyard or part of a larger home break in.Now that doesn’t mean I necessarily endorse bringing the Clem to college as it will likely get thoroughly trashed from daily wear and tear (bike racks are not bike-friendly spaces). But I’m also always looking for an excuse to build up a commuter for colleagues.Neal LernerBrookline MAOn Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 5:07:52 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:I'm amazed at the amount of discouragement of use of the Clem as a college commuting bike. I've worked at universities a good chunk of my life and commuted with high(er) end bikes and never had any issues. I like riding nice bikes - which is why I own them. I've parked in high foot traffic zones (in front of libraries, security, etc.) or bring my bike inside ( absolute in downtown Vancouver) when possible or 

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