[RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles

[stonehog]

I personally like the SRAM S500 levers for drops.  They are more full in 
the hand, and I believe more like Campy Ergo levers.  You can still find 
them for reasonable prices around 50-60$.

Brian “Stonehog” Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 7:45:55 AM UTC-7, Erik Wright wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> I have a Roadini set up with 46cm Noodles. I'm using 9spd 105 brifters 
> that I took off my old road bike, and I'm struggling to dial in the feel of 
> the hoods. This is partially due to the lever / hood design (pretty boxy 
> and bulky, don't like it that much), but I also can't work out the bar to 
> hood transition, if that makes sense. I'd like a smooth transition from the 
> top of the bar into the hood position of the lever, in effect creating a 
> feel of the bullhorn handlebar. After many micro adjustments, I just can't 
> get that with this lever/bar combo. Either the levers feel too close and 
> create a harsh/abrupt transition to the hoods, or they're too far below the 
> bend for my liking.
>
> I figured I'd switch to downtube shifters and go with the Tiagra BL-R400 that 
> Riv sells 
> <https://www.rivbike.com/collections/braking/products/shimano-tiagra-road-brake-levers-15091>
>  
> and uses on most of their bikes, but wanted to check in and see if anyone 
> here has a different lever that they *love* with Noodles. Brakes are Paul 
> Racers, if that's a factor.
>
> Let's hear 'em!
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> p.s. Riv's out of stock with those Tiagra levers so if you have some in 
> your bin that you'd like to get rid of, consider this a low key WTB post.
>

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[RBW] Re: Did the Hunqapillar effective top tube length change over the years?

[stonehog]

I have an original 54cm Hunqa and a 59cm Homer.  The Hunqa has an effective 
.5cm extra length - I believe it is 58.5cm vs the Homer's 58cm. I will 
measure and post actuals when I get home tonight, but I can at least 
confirm it has a longer top tube than a 59cm Homer.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 7:50:53 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> Does anyone who owns an early generation 54cm Hunqapillar mind measuring 
> the effective top-tube length?  The current Hunq's are listed as 584mm ETT 
> but I have a geometry diagram of a 54 with a 599 ETT.  
>
> I find that I'm very sensitive to top tube length and prefer a longer ETT 
> over a shorter one.  I hope to someday pick up a used Hunqapillar and would 
> like to verify if there actually are 54cm Hunqapillars with an almost 60cm 
> ETT out there.  
>

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[RBW] Re: New tires for the Hunq

[stonehog]

Bingo - those are exactly what you want. Make sure you get the 
liteskins: https://www.schwalbe.com/en/offroad-reader/thunder-burt.html  

P.S. if you go tubeless, you won't get (m)any flats, and they roll even 
better/softer!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 8:15:38 PM UTC-8, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Sounds like Schwalbe Thunder Burts are exactly what you need. 
> David 
> River Grove, IL

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[RBW] Re: How to crash by yourself

[stonehog]

I am healing up nicely - no scars from the brambles.  The neck is still 
sore and crackly, but i have most of my range of motion back.  Still doing 
the daily PT stretches - probably for a few more weeks.  


On the bike front, things are great!  I went and picked it up yesterday, in 
fact.  On Saturday, I received a call by a woman saying "I have your bike". 
 I took down her number and address and went up yesterday to get it.  I 
talked with her brother, who had evidently "found it laying on the side of 
the road".  He said that he thought someone had stolen it and ditched it. 
 When he got home, he noticed some blood on the helmet and bike, and said 
he called the hospital to see if anyone had come in from a bike crash.  No 
reports, so he put it in the back shed.  This last weekend, my "drew's 
list" ad in the lost and found paid off, as his sister noticed it there and 
asked her brother about that white bike he had found.  They had the helmet, 
too - good as I wanted to see what it looked like, and it looks like it 
took a good bit of impact from what I'm betting was barbed wire fence, or a 
viciously strong blackberry branch.  The bike also still had my water 
bottle on it:)

The bike is in good shape - a bit rusty from being outside (chain and 
bolts, only), and it looks like he tried to take the valve stem off the 
back, but it's a tubeless setup, and he couldn't get the lock ring off the 
stem (scarred up the stem with a pliers a bit).  I have a feeling that if 
he would have been able to pump up the back wheel, I may not have gotten 
the bike back.  Tubeless saves the day??

I'm really happy to get the bike back, as it has some nice parts on it (Son 
Deluxe, Berthoud fenders, Nitto bars, stem, seatpost, Selle Anatomica 
saddle, my beloved Suntour XC Pro FD and XT RD, and of course the amazing 
Rene Herse crankset).  The added bonus is I had purchased a replacement 
Toussaint in the new rev from the boys in Canada for a reduced price!  I 
just told them about the return of the original, but they said they are 
happy I'm ok with 2 frames (I am!), so it's still on the way.  I may make 
that into the town porter/commuter, a la Bill's Rosco - it's about the same 
color, and I have plenty of parts in the bin.  Always wanted a low-trail 
porteur town bike.  Now i just need a 650B wheelset.

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ce0N_jIpn1g/WFmLkAXt2vI/H8E/zqvf8Uxw-XAgfnUvrgMPw6I2tqSgwFuXQCLcB/s1600/IMG_0088.JPG>

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hxIlY9fuo_M/WFmLPEELVwI/H8A/xQaDb4B5n4k50-xfKYk4I1bkuXS-j0xvACLcB/s1600/IMG_0083.JPG>


Brian Hanson

Seattle, WA

www.stonehog.com


On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 at 12:51:15 AM UTC-8, Ian A wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> Wondering how the healing is going (have you been looking after the cuts?) 
> and if your bike was recovered by you?  
>
> IanA/Canada
>
>
> On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 1:59:54 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
>>
>> I had an off-road excursion into the ditch Friday night and spent a few 
>> hours in the ER getting my neck checked out.  All ok, but will be sore for 
>> a week or two.  Bike left in the ditch was taken before I was able to 
>> return - thank goodness it wasn't my Homer or Hunqa.  Small price to pay 
>> for a bit of bad judgement.  
>>
>> Wrote it up in my blog below, but to save a click: 
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

[stonehog]

Bill, I rode a friend's 25" Jones Plus on singletrack, and it felt fine, but 
larger than I needed. I'm 5'11" with a 76cm SH, and would definitely go for the 
24". Fun bike. Also have a Hunqa. Different for sure!  Jones is more dirt 
oriented, but you strangely sit straight up on it. It feels like you are skiing 
through the woods. Way different than any MTB geometry I've ever encountered 
(not saying much). I liked it, but could climb better on my hard tail Kona ti 
bike. I think the Jones would make a killer backcountry bikepacker. I think the 
Hunqa is more versatile, however. 

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
www.stonehog.com

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day! R05C0 8U883

[stonehog]

Love the bike, Bill!  One quick note on Colin (Stevens) - he works out of 
Seattle's Georgetown neighborhood.  Here's the website if anyone wants to 
look into his racks/trailers:  http://www.haulincolin.com/index.html  

I have his rack on my Hunqapillar, and can vouch for it being a great piece 
of hauling gear!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
www.stonehog.com

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 8:43:06 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Ted asked about the front rack on my new build
>
> There's a rack guy in Portland who goes by the business name Haulin Colin. 
> A list member had Colin build him this rack custom, but then he decided he 
> was going in another direction.  I had owned a Haulin Colin full porteur 
> rack and was super happy with it, so I was pleased to pick this up. 
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito Ca
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Holiday Saddle question

[stonehog]

I am on the side of thumbs up for SA. I'm a mostly commuter, sometimes 
rando/bikepacker.  I've tried B17 (good shape, pretty), Rivet Pearl (good 
shape, too stiff), and Selle Anatomica X (old writeup here: 
https://stonehog.com/2012/08/02/leathersaddles/), and replaced all my 
saddles with the Selle Anatomica at this point.  Comfortable from the get 
go.  I weigh in around 165lb, and have skinny legs, bony butt, so this 
saddle fits me well.  I've put 300k on these in the rain, and while they 
may sag, they are comfy.  I can do the B17 for about 100k - anything more, 
and I will get numbness and soreness.  On the Rivet, I eventually did the 
Lon Haldeman Brooks break in method 
(https://stonehog.com/2013/05/29/soften-the-rivet/), but ended up giving 
the saddle away when that didn't really make things better.  Every butt is 
unique - everyone needs to try saddles to find the one that works for their 
butt, distance, style.  

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA 

On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 10:22:48 PM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> I received an email from Selle Anatomica that all their saddles were on 
> sale for $99 during the holidays.  I had thought about the X-series in the 
> past to replace my B17.  The goal was to get a saddle with a cutout. 
>  Others I had been considering were the Brooks C17 Carved and the Rivet 
> Pearl.  I like the Rivet and don't know much about the C17 carved but was 
> wondering if the SA was worth trying while it is $50-60 less.  I've read 
> people raving about the Rivet saddles here but also thought I remember some 
> people complaining about the SA saddles sagging pretty quickly.  Any 
> thoughts comparing these 3 choices?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: Road Hunq?

[stonehog]

If I were buying strictly road tires for my Hunqa, I would go with the 
https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/tires/700c/compass-700c-x-44-snoqualmie-pass/
 
tires mentioned above.  I have been riding the Thunder Burt 2.1 lites 
tubeless, and they are also amazing on the road, but there is some noise 
from the tread.  For me, they are perfect as a mixed road/gravel option, 
and since I generally use this bike as an all-rounder commuter/camper, I 
like to have some tread.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 at 3:10:07 PM UTC-8, William R. wrote:
>
> I have the Snoqualmie pass tires on my Appaloosa. Been riding them for a 
> while now and they still measure 41mm on rims as narrow as velocity twin 
> hollows and as wide as the stock wheels that came with the complete 
> Appaloosa. They ride really nice though and feel bigger than they are when 
> riding through the ruts. I alternate between these tires and 2.1 Liteskin 
> T-burts. Lately, when back on the Burts I pine for the Snoqs.
>
> Bill in Westchester, NY
>

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[RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

[stonehog]

I did the Oregon Outback on my Hunqapillar last year.  360 miles over 5 
days.  Minor compared to some on this list.  Wrote it up 
here: https://stonehog.com/2015/06/07/oregon-outback-2015-day-1/

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: Which bikes should Rivendell keep selling?

[stonehog]

Full disclosure, I have a Hunqa, Hilsen, and Appa (wife's).  My unaskedfor 
opinion:

Keepers:

   - New Light Road/Gravel/Cross - fits wide tires (50s), light riders 
   (thinner tubing), and replaces Roadeo, Hilsen, Legolas.  Keeps a 2 degree 
   top tube for those who like the classic geometry, and comes it in lots of 
   sizes to please fit purists and drop bar users who want a 10-12cm stem.
   - Appaloosa - can replace Sam, Atlantis, Hunqa, Bomba as heavy duty 
   mtb/tourer/bikepacker - has 6 degree slope, and less sizes to keep in 
   stock.  Add diagatube to keep that in the lineup, or just rebadge Hunqa and 
   emulate wheelsize/chainstays.  Drop the Joe.  Appaloosa is cool on its own. 
Also fulfills the "animal" riv like the Saluki, and Hunqa (mammoth)
   - Clem(entine) - keep the budget, lowest cost to get a Riv bike
   - Cheviot/Foy - unique offering - also believe this was a big hit.


Discard, modify, or make custom: 

   - Roadeo 
   - Hillborne
   - Atlantis 
   - Hunqa
   - Hilsen
   - Hubbuhubbuh
   - Rosco

I love all the bikes in the discard, but also loved all the bikes that have 
already gone to pasture.  They will always be available on the used (or 
custom) market as they last forever. 

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
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[RBW] What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[stonehog]

One more data point. I weigh 165 and my bike (AHH) is about 31lbs with normal 
gear. I ran the tires at 40 front and 60 rear, but let them drop to 30/50 on 
occasion before topping them. I have since switched to Bon Jons (35mm), and run 
them about 35/45.  

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

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Re: [RBW] Whidbey S24O Ride Report

[stonehog]

FWIW- I have Boscos on a Miyata and love 'em. No problem going distance as they 
give you the stretch forward position of flat bars, and also allow you to sit 
bolt upright. That's my island road distance bike, and also works great as a 
round towner cruiser. 

Brian

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Re: [RBW] Whidbey S24O Ride Report

[stonehog]

mon on the bluff overlooking the Straight of 
>>> Juan de Fuca, and a great sunset, it was off to bed.
>>>
>>> The next morning was sunny, so I geared up and chatted with the hiker to 
>>> learn about his journey 
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Northwest_Trail>. He was a 65 
>>> years old Granite Falls, WA resident, and 7 weeks into the trail that 
>>> started in Glacier National Park. After 8 bears (one grizzly at about 10 
>>> yds), a pack of wolves, and countless coyotes, he was just heading to the 
>>> ferry to Port Townsend to have a lunch reunion with his wife before 
>>> finishing the last 150 miles to Cape Alava.
>>> [image: stonehog-17.jpg] 
>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/28939445660/in/album-72157669792332024/>Ready
>>>  
>>> for the trip home
>>>
>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/28939445660/in/album-72157669792332024/>
>>>
>>> After a nourishing breakfast at the same scenic overlook on the bluff 
>>> and a water bottle refill, I was off to ride the Kettles trail on the 
>>> loaded Hunq.
>>> [image: stonehog-18.jpg]MTB Riv Style
>>>
>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/28939447130/in/album-72157669792332024/>
>>>
>>>
>>> Needless to say, the Hunq made short work of the trail, and I found 
>>> myself heading back south and past the barley fields to Ebey Beach.
>>>
>>> [image: stonehog-24.jpg] 
>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/29193383836/in/album-72157669792332024/>
>>>
>>> I stopped at the old "Ferry Building" on the bluff to explore and take 
>>> some pics, then it was back down to Keystone, Greenbank, and finally back 
>>> to Freeland for some rest and a meal. 
>>>
>>> Route out and back are here:
>>>
>>> http://cyclemeter.com/51cfa6724f84c700/Cycle-20160822-1639
>>>
>>> http://cyclemeter.com/51cfa6724f84c700/Cycle-20160823-0934
>>>
>>> Brian Hanson
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> Bike Blog <http://www.stonehog.com>
>>> @stonehog
>>> stonehogboɥǝuoʇs
>>>
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>>>
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[RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

[stonehog]

Here are my thoughts on low trail vs. mid (riv) trail from a few months 
back: 

https://stonehog.com/2016/01/06/trail-riding/

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 3:24:31 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> I've been a Rivvy sorta guy for the last ten years, owning several of 
> their bikes and numerous others built up in Riv-inspired ways. Recently 
> I've been reading through back issues of Bicycle Quarterly, and back posts 
> on Jan Heine's blog. It's got me wondering about this whole 
> alternate-universe practical bike thing he describes, which seems to be 
> characterized by low trail steering geometry, flexible frames, and carrying 
> loads up front.
>
> I'd love to try it, but such bikes aren't exactly common. 
>
> Does anyone have experience with both Rivvy (mid-trail, burly rigid frame, 
> carrying stuff all over) and the more French rando / Jan sort of bike? What 
> did you think of each?
>
>
> Reed
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

[stonehog]

Scott - please don't lump a whole list of us into those you don't agree 
with on one thread.  Of the bicycle groups I've been observing, this is one 
of the most open minded and educated.  :)  

And thanks for pointing out there are good things to be found in other 
bikes, too.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
www.stonehog.com

On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 10:45:51 AM UTC-7, Skenry wrote:
>
> Deacon, 
> You might want to read some of  and others posts.  
>
> It has been specifically stated that people liked the company before, and 
> no longer do and they could not recommend them anymore after they EXPANDED 
> their offerings.
>
> How tolerant is that?   The "my way out the highway" approach doesn't fly 
> with me.
>
> Choice is a good thing.   
> Options are good things.
>
> I expected more from this list.
> On May 28, 2016 10:09 AM, "Deacon Patrick"  
> wrote:
>
>> Stop being ridiculous, Skenry. Nothing in this thread except your use of 
>> the words is intolerant or single-minded.
>>
>> In deciding between Cleary and Islabike I called and talked with both 
>> companies. Islabike was very "business and component" focused, Cleary was 
>> very "parent and kid experience with the bike" focused. That made my 
>> decision to buy from Cleary easy (despite my natural deference to anything 
>> resembling an Islay connection. Grin.). As I said earlier, and 
>> foreshadowing what Mark eventually said: "It shows me their underlying 
>> principles of bicycling differ greatly from mine."
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 8:35:08 PM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
>>>
>>> And that's the point that is confusing, islabike is still making the 
>>> type of bike that you are referring to. All they are doing is offering 
>>> consumers a choice.
>>>
>>> Intolerance and single-sightedness don't seem to be those Riv qualities 
>>> that some of you preach on about.
>>>
>>> So it's a great company if they make only the type of bike that you 
>>> want?  But it's a bad company if they make the bike you want AND the type 
>>> of bike that someone else may want?
>>>
>>> Wow.  It's no wonder the reputation garnered here.
>>> On May 27, 2016 5:26 PM, "'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 You guys are conflating the things I've written.This is not about 
 snobbery or proselytizing,  not about anti this or that, not about who 
 should or should not be on the list. I did not question anyone's 
 qualifications for being on RBW.  If you have actually read what I wrote 
 and the reason for my, let's face it, in the context of life, mild dismay 
 at Islabikes is not clear, I cheerfully give up! Wait, one last time: 

 There is a kid's bicycle company. It appeared that they had some 
 Riv-like qualities and a similar approach to bicycles as RBW. I purchased 
 a 
 bike from them based in some good measure on this approach. They are now 
 offering a line of kid's bikes that in many ways goes against this 
 approach 
 toward making and selling bicycles. I am disappointed. You don't have to 
 be. Not in the slightest. 

 On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 4:30:26 PM UTC-4, Daniel D. wrote:
>
> Because I like steel, I like pretty paint jobs, I like wool, I like 
> swedish axes, I like leather saddles, I like lugs, I like racks, I like 
> nice bags, I like the best bike shop experience ever, 
>
>  But what I enjoy and am willing to spend is not the end all be all .  
> Don't get the snobbery and need for it to be a "cause".   
>
> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:56:27 AM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>> And by the way, this idea that they are "filling a market" and 
>> "giving customers what they want" is also a bit suspect. One reason RBW 
>> is 
>> such a niche company is that the majority of people shopping for 
>> bicycles 
>> are at the mercy of the industry, which has a vested interest in pushing 
>> certain types of bicycles. And if you don't get that, I am truly puzzled 
>> why you are on this list. (Note that none of this means I think people 
>> should only ride Rivendells, or that carbon sucks, or that people cannot 
>> have fun on pro style racing bicycles. It's not about that per se.)
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:40:55 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote:
>>>
>>> There is a lot of negativity towards this company here which made me 
>>> check the link so I can understand why, and after I still don't get it. 
>>>
>>> I've never heard of this company before but I understand why they 
>>> are making this pro line...not a lot of companies cater to the young 
>>> racer 
>>> and offer equipment for that. They are filling a market. If you don't 
>>> believe that kids that young are racing then you aren't attending many 
>>> races. Just this past weekend I 

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

[stonehog]

I like Noodles - like the curve back - fits my hands great.  I've tried 46, 
42, and 44cm sizes, and like the 42s best (5'11" 87.5cm PBH), but that is a 
hugely personal preference and likely based on your body dimensions and how 
you ride.  

Like René, I like the Honjos or any aluminum fenders over plastic, but 
mainly based on esthetics and moldability - love a good fender line.  As 
far as racks go, I've tried most setups, and like a simple rear bag.  I 
love the convenience of a front bag, but keep it light and low unless you 
don't mind wheel flop.  

This worked pretty well for me on long rides: https://flic.kr/p/pgL8Ew  

At this point I've settled on this: https://flic.kr/p/zP7BQG

As you've probably noticed, there are a lot of different setups on this 
list.  Rivs are great that way - most versatile bikes ever.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
www.stonehog.com


On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:38:16 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>
> Very very nice gray color! Bars are so personal. Also seems to depend on 
> other ongoing stuff; today my hands, butt, feet and neck hurt. Other days 
> nothing hurts. 
>
> Here's my Homer with the Compass 44 Rando bars with Brooks tape. 
>
> Can't go wrong with what you like!
>
>
> On Saturday, May 28, 2016, Brian Campbell  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 3:21:37 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, Brian, that is a beautiful bike.  I am used to seeing lovely bikes 
>>> here, but yours is really eye catching-the color, bar tape, etc.
>>> Nice work.
>>> Erl
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[RBW] Re: Long rides on low carb...

[stonehog]

Hi René!  Congrats on sticking to the low carb stuff - I've been off and on 
for a while - like most diets, I find it hard to "stay different" from what 
others are eating around me.  Need to find the zen chi and become myself...

As far as what to eat on longer rides, here's my take.  I did brevets for a 
few years before low carb and used stuff like Perpetuum which is just 
maltodextrose (carbs) mixed with water.  Easy to get down on longer rides, 
and kept me from bonking, but not satisfying at all.  Everyone was 
different.  One guy ate dried fruits and seaweed chips - seemed like a pro 
to me.  Others ate lots of junk and gels.

On the Oregon Outback trip last year, I went with mainly coconut, nuts, and 
meat/cheese snacks.  This worked great - did five 70+ mile days and never 
felt like I was hungry.  Here's a pic of what I packed (wayyy too much, BTW 
- had half of it left at the end of the trip):

https://flic.kr/p/u3G4Nk

Just bring something with salt, and plenty of water, and you'll be fine. 
 If you feel like your are tired, stop and take a rest.  

Brian

On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:41:27 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've been low carb high fat for about a year now, with some relapses. Lost 
> the 40 lbs between May and October last year, then plateaued, probably went 
> a bit off with and gained 10 lbs after the holidays which I've about just 
> lost back again in the last 8 weeks, albeit slowly and with some relapses.
>
> 7 weeks ago, I also started riding aerobically after discovering the 
> Maffetone method and signed up to do the 72 mile ride around Lake Tahoe 
> next Sunday.
>
> During this "training period" I noticed that since I was already quite fat 
> adapted, I had no trouble doing my bike rides on no food in the morning, 
> and that ensuring I didn't exceed my Maximum Aerobic Function HR of 124 
> (for my sweet age) I started managing to do the longer rides I previously 
> couldn't do without a lot of suffering and bonking. To stay in the aerobic 
> base building zone, I mostly chose flat rides and on the short climbs I 
> couldn't avoid, slowed to a crawl. Balance training I call it.
>
> Last Sunday, I did a 42 mile ride in just under 4 hours. This week I've 
> ridden twice to work and back, total of 36 miles each day, just split in 
> two rides. The afternoon rides home are with a very strong head/side wind, 
> where again, I have to slow down significantly and take it like 
> "meditation". Character building I call riding 18 miles with a constant 
> headwind.
>
> On all these rides I only drink water, nothing else. But when I get home I 
> feel like I can't keep riding. Once I rest a bit I feel fine, although my 
> legs and my butt "feel" it.
>
> I don't think I can do the 72 mile ride next Sunday on just water, so I'm 
> looking for some guidance and suggestions for how to fuel myself without 
> making it all sugary with gels and the traditional cycling fuels. When I 
> first did these long rides with Team in Training in 2005, I would finish so 
> bloated from all the gels I needed to take just to keep going, and also the 
> pace was too high for me. This time I'm riding by myself so I can control 
> my pace and my nutrition.
>
> I'm also hoping that during the day of the ride, I'll somehow find a way 
> to ride for 7 - 8 hours. Right now, it seems impossible as my longest ride 
> has been 4 hours, and most of my rides are around 2 hours. Suggestions are 
> also welcome.
>
> I know there is a lot of "mental" stuff needed to do these long rides, as 
> well as more aerobic training and losing the other 40+ lbs I'm still 
> carrying on me. I'm just hoping that persevering will make them truly 
> enjoyable, vs. fighting to just finish them.
>
> I welcome any other tips as well regarding managing the long hours on the 
> saddle. Frequency of stops to stretch out, rest the butt, hands, feet, 
> etc.? I know I can always get bailed out if necessary, but I'm going to try 
> to do the whole ride.
>
> Thanks for sharing your experience and feedback!
>
> I'm riding my Homer. Is anyone from this list going to do the ride as well?
>
> Best,
>
> René 
>

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[RBW] Re: New Roadeo

[stonehog]

You will probably just try them all at some point if you are anything like 
me, but my faves over the years have been the Porteurs, the Albastaches, 
and Noodles.  It may take a while to get comfy on a Noodled bike, but they 
are great for longer rides if you put the time into finding the right 
coordinates.  For me that was 1-2cm above saddle height.  I find myself 
migrating back to uprights now due to my love of 
off-road/gravel/exploratory stuff.  Choco's look to be perfect, but I 
haven't gotten time to put them on my Hunqa yet.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
www.stonehog.com

On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 1:11:13 AM UTC-5, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Thanks all! 
>
> I may give the drops another shot...I agree that this bike looks pretty 
> sweet with them and I've always suffered from a bit of drop bar envy. But 
> with anything longer than a 50mm stem (even with the bars high), I start to 
> feel it in my back and neck pretty quick. Maybe I'll bring it to the LBS 
> and see if they have any suggestions. I'll also check out the Jitensha 
> Bars...do users of those find them to have enough hand positions? If only 
> the Choco bars came with an option a few mm narrower like the Boscos...
>
> As it's my first Rivendell, I can't really speak to how it compares with 
> other models. But I rode it a few more times this week and would describe 
> it as a really wonderful mix of sporty and stable. I don't go super fast 
> when I'm riding, but I love the feel of a light, sporty steel road bike 
> (like my 531 mid-eighties Trek). This frame has that really nice quality, 
> but also feels much more stable when descending and turning (even with bars 
> that weren't specifically designed for it...which I feel speaks to 
> Rivendell's fantastic geometry). My old Trek feels squirrelly on rougher 
> roads and gravel. But with Jack Browns, it works flawlessly on crushed 
> gravel paths...and still feels quick and responsive. Even though it's 
> marketed as a 'club-ride' bike, like any Rivendell, it excels at lots of 
> different tasks. I wouldn't take it on single track, but with some 35mm 
> Cyclocross tires, I'd feel totally comfortable doing rougher dirt paths, 
> fire roads, etc. It's feels like a solid-enough bike.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 5:32:16 PM UTC-4, Evan E. wrote:
>>
>> Welcome to the list, Eric! Beautiful bike.
>>
>> [General note to the posters on this thread: Velo Orange makes Porteur 
>> bars in 22.2 and also in 23.8. But since this is the Riv list, maybe think 
>> about Choco Normal bars?]
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Hat quest

[stonehog]

Funny thing about non bikey hats. I had an "experience" on my recent ride in 
The Dalles wherein I was doing a windey descent at about 30mph into a good 
headwind with a Cabelas camo cowboy-ish hat with a strap. I figured that when 
the hat came off, it would swing back and ride behind me in the wind. What 
actually happened when it popped off was it swung forward and covered my face 
neatly blocking all view. Scary moment...

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[RBW] Re: Another Appaloosa Rider

[stonehog]

Congrats, Eunice!  Love the pics!!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Monday, March 28, 2016 at 10:02:35 PM UTC-7, Eunice Chang wrote:
>
> This one's named Athansor. A good, reliable, sturdy horse for new 
> beginnings and adventures :)
>
> Preliminary photos so far: (still thinking about how to build it up - 
> suggestions welcome!)
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/albums/72157664228668683
>
> -E.
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Comments on Compass Crankset on an A. Homer Hilsen?

[stonehog]

I have the Compass cranks on two bikes - a Hilsen and a Toussaint.  Love 
them.  They are quite tight on the Q-factor, so if you are used to triple 
MTB cranks, these will feel narrow.  I believe I have a 107mm bottom 
bracket on the Hilsen.  The Toussaint has a 113mm.  As I use flats now 
exclusively, I am less sensitive to the narrow Q on these, but when I was 
using Frogs, I added a few washers to push them out a bit.  

The quality is as promised.  I have very little wear on the rings after 
several thousand miles on both bikes.  They are quite beautiful, as well, 
so if you are concerned with aesthetics, this is your crank :)  Let me know 
if you have any other questions.  

I have a few writeups with pics here:  

http://stonehog.com/2012/05/28/rene-herse-crank/
http://stonehog.com/2016/01/06/trail-riding/

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 1:04:29 PM UTC-8, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> I believe Brian who runs the blog Stone Hog has a set on a Hilsen. I think 
> he's pretty active on the list if you search his name and private reply to 
> one of his posts, I'm sure he'll respond with his experiences.
>
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 6:46:29 AM UTC-5, Iron Rider wrote:
>>
>> Anyone using a Compass crankset on a Homer Hilsen? If so, what bottom 
>> bracket/spindle are you using? And what are your thoughts on the crankset 
>> itself. Feel free to email me if you'd rather comment privately. Thanks!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Dyno light recommendation

[stonehog]

I ride dyno hubs so I never have to think/worry/bother with lighting.  I 
never have to charge anything.  I never have to carry something extra.  I 
can go on a five-minute run to the store, or a 30-hour brevet through the 
dark countryside.  Haven't worried about lights for going on 4 or 5 years 
now.  It's just simple.  I also get a smug sense of satisfaction that I'm 
providing the power.  That's technically and socially cool.  

I also have a lot of options with high-quality lights that I don't yet have 
with battery powered lights.  Lights that direct the beam where it needs to 
go - not in other road/trail users eyes.

***warning - rant - look away***  It seems like I am constantly being 
blinded these days on my commute on the Burke Gilman by people who now have 
lights that should be used for cave exploration or riding 40mph through the 
woods. Then there are the folks that somehow manage to see in front of them 
with a B - l - I - N - k - I - n - G front light.  On a trail only used by 
walkers and bikers.  What - are they worried that I won't see them and run 
into them head on?  Wow.  This isn't even just selfish, or extra cautious. 
 This is getting to the point of extremely dangerous.  Between the lights, 
and the helmets, and the vests, and the airbag neck gaiters, is this just a 
giant conspiracy to end "the ride"?
*** ok - feel better now ***

Perhaps I just need to find a welding goggle that electronically cancels 
blinking lights and mutes all ridiculous blinding beams.  It may be the 
only way to fight the continued onslaught of "*stupid-dangerous lights".

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

* my term and my opinion

On Friday, January 29, 2016 at 4:52:51 PM UTC-8, Doug Williams wrote:
>
> Warning: Heresy and Impiety follow! I know that we are all retro-grouches 
> here and my AHH shifts 8-speed friction on Silver’s. Friction shifting will 
> never die so long as I live. But I honestly think that technology has left 
> dynohubs in the dustbin of history.
>
>
> I run two Ixon Core battery powered (USB rechargeable) lights. Made by 
> Busch & Müller; I got them from Peter White, see them here: 
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/b
>
>
> The light output and beam shape are both outstanding. The batteries last 
> plenty long too (3 hours on high power and 15 hours on low power). But if 
> I’m going on a REALLY long night ride and/or I want to run the lights at 
> high-power for the whole ride, I just plug them into my Zendure USB power 
> bank battery and I can charge my lights even when they are in use. The 
> Zendure’s come in several sizes from 6,700mAh to 25,600mAh and weights from 
> 136 grams to 725 grams (for the really ridiculously powered model). The 
> thing is, even the small ones are enough to run my phone for navigation 
> (Ride with GPS sucks power in navigation mode) and my lights at full power 
> for much longer than I need. I keep the Zendure in my Sackville TrunkSack 
> Small and the lights and bag are both mounted on my front Mark’s Rack.
>
>
> Dyno hubs on Peter’s website weigh from 575 to 720 grams and cost from 
> $257 to $426. USB battery banks like the Zendure weigh less and cost less 
> than a dynohub. They also power more stuff (mostly 2 outputs but 4 on the 
> big one) than a dynohub. They provide power for as long as a mortal can 
> ride and don't require a special wheel.
>
>
> So…why do we still ride dynohubs?
>
>
> Doug
>
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

[stonehog]

Thanks, Phil - great patch!  I just ordered a few.  Appreciate you keeping 
us in cool bike loot!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 4:22:14 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> I'm making my first "Biketinker" patches, with Walter at Falls Creek 
> Outfitters. He's going to tweak that R, and they'll be ready to ship in a 
> couple weeks. If you'd like to get a couple, they're $5 each over on my 
> Etsy shop. 
>
> These first ones are a Sheldon tribute, since he started a lot more people 
> than me down the path of wrenching on bikes, make mistakes, and sometimes 
> create new things. He was a true originator, and even today, if you need 
> esoteric bike information, "Ask And Sheldon Has The Answer." 
>  
>
> https://www.etsy.com/listing/264180515/325-biketinkers-union-patch-pre-order
>
>
> 
>
> Many thanks!
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Seeking Alejandro

[stonehog]

This reminds me of a book I recently read after a blog post by Stephan 
Guyenet (riv link - originally discovered him here based on Paleo 
discussions).  It's called Healing Back Pain, and here's the link in case 
anyone here has had chronic postural muscle pain and can't seem to make 
progress on a 
fix: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2015/12/healing-back-pain.html 
Warning - it maintains that most back pain is psychosomatic in cause - not 
caused by "lifting wrong" or "throwing your back out".  Since it's an 
election year and we're all geared up for controversy, this fits right in...

One area that stuck with me from the book was that modern medicine tends to 
treat the human body as a machine - a physical symptom must have a physical 
cause.  It's hard to apply the scientific method most physicians are 
trained on to psychiatric cause that may be inflicting the symptom. It's 
like we just disregard a person's mental health as so much nonsense - it 
couldn't seriously have anything to do with why someone is in physical pain.

It is sad that humans must go in cycles where we realize and make progress 
on the mind/body connection, and then it falls out of favor.  We lose so 
much in these darker times.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 10:12:17 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I was at the grocery store the other day and witnessed three young (by my 
> standards) folks on bikes obviously homeless, two women and man. I felt so 
> sad for them! I feel so blessed to have come from a caring loving family, 
> gainfully employed with a roof over my head. I heard recently that Los 
> Angeles tops out as having the greatest number of homeless in the country 
> as of November of 2015 according to this LA Times 
> 
>  
> article. I don't have the answer it's a tough one. When I think about the 
> solution, give them tiny houses I figure human nature is to say NIMBY and 
> on the other side of the fence you're just creating Getto's! There are 
> those homeless that don't want to be fenced in and refuse to conform and 
> then those that are mentally ill and realistically need to be in some form 
> of treatment. 
>
> I think it's admirable that you and your neighbors go out and help 
> Alejandro Tom. 
>
> I think there is an underlying problem in our country that I think gets 
> swept under the proverbial rug. Homelessness is just the manifestation of 
> that underlying issue. 
>
> Thanks for posting about Alejandro Tom and I hope and pray he's okay.
>
> Best regards,
>
> ~Hugh 
>
> On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 9:37:59 PM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote:
>>
>> I was out on a mission today, seeking a homeless man in our "outback", 
>> such as it is, here, and ran into this situation.
>>
>> Alejandro Land 
>>
>> They are geese, right?  What kind of geese might they be?  They seem to 
>> be staying here for a week or so on their journey.
>>
>> I have not found Alejandro, yet, but am following signs.  There was 
>> evidence of a recent fire on makeshift hearth within range of the debris 
>> area images and tracks of his oh so overladen cart.  I will be out tomorrow 
>> on Sam Hillborne seeking further.
>>
>> There is a deep story to this (I think I have related it to Hugh).  In 
>> brief, Alejandro is a homeless man who has slipped through the cracks of 
>> both Mexican (in his native country) and US social services (here).  He 
>> lives out in the brush with a cart laden an awesome load of God knows what 
>> that is important to him.  Little or no English.  Diminished Spanish, 
>> although that is his native language.  Had he grown up here, I am sure 
>> there would be a label for him.  He has a mission every day to haul the 
>> cart several miles to a Ralph's market and then back again to the boonies. 
>>  Alejandro is defiant about not giving up his life choices.  People in the 
>> hood try to minister to him and get him into better circumstances, but that 
>> is not for him.  l am fortunate to live in what might be called "Pill 
>> Hill", and our DM (Doctor of Medicine) neighbors do the same as I, go out, 
>> find him, and treat him when necessary.
>>
>> Sorry, no bike images (owe you all, Sam is just so coooL).  Got 
>> distracted by where Sam Hillborne takes me and has me doing.
>>
>>
>>
>> ~Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

[stonehog]

Here are my faves from 2015.  Thanks for all the inspiration, folks!

https://flic.kr/s/aHskpctbAo

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA 
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Re: [RBW] Thunder Burts and Snow

[stonehog]

My 2 cents.  I used the 2.1 Thunder Burts (lightweight tubeless) last year 
on the Oregon Outback, and on the paved section, we had no problem humming 
along in the 17-20mph range.  They are my favorite mixed terrain tire, at 
least as far as what I've tried yet.  I ride them regularly on my paved 
commute, and they slow me down far less than normal knobby tires.  They 
seem to just coast along...

If you are going to be doing 99% paved, look at the SuperMotos - they are 
biggg, light, and comfy, as well.  If you want a bit more bite - the TBs 
are lighter, and grippier on the loose stuff.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 12:51:10 PM UTC-8, William R. wrote:
>
> Hi Deacon and Patrick: what do you think of the Thunder Burts as a mixed 
> terrain tire on pavement to get to the dirt roads and trails? Nothing too 
> technical, mostly smooth packed dirt. I'm talking 5-10 miles on the road 
> and mixed use paths to get there though. Are they a buzzy compromise there 
> or does their light weight and suppleness have them feeling fast on 
> pavement? I'm trying to decide what to outfit my Appaloosa with when it 
> comes. I'm thinking all over the place from Big Bens (fast on pavement, but 
> heavier and less supple) to the liteskin TBs maxing out the width around 
> 55mm.
>
> Bill in finally some seasonable cold but no snow yet Westchester, NY
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[RBW] Re: Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016

[stonehog]

Agree, 100%.  Love my Hilsen - would love it even more with braze-on 
centerpulls.

On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 6:56:59 AM UTC-8, Matthew J wrote:
>
> Repeating what I said in an earlier post:  A Hilsen with braze on Paul 
> RacerMs would be quite the bike!
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[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

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I'm happy with the news.  I have both a 54cm Hunq and a 59cm Hilsen.  I've 
often thought about adding braze-on centerpulls to the Hilsen so I can 
de-adapt my Paul Racers to use the proper mounting format.  I love the idea 
of a longer Hunq - more stability is better on off-road touring, hill 
climbs in gravel, bombing down rough stuff.  I don't even mind it going to 
650B - I like the high quality tire selection in that size (though that is 
getting to be less of a problem these days), and assume that the ability to 
use wider tires would be part of this change.  Bring it!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 6:50:35 PM UTC-8, Jim S. wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>
> I saw on the Blug today that AHH, Atlantis, and Hunqapillar are getting 
> longer in 2016. I had been thinking about buying a Hunqapillar. But now I'm 
> wondering whether a longer, 2016 Hunqapillar is worth waiting for? Does 
> anyone have any thoughts about the effect that the longer frame will have 
> on the ride?
>
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[RBW] Re: Whidbey Island Rides

[stonehog]

Darin - Here is a northern loop route. 
 http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8831728

I'll be up there tonight through Sunday, but getting a real ride in this 
weekend is looking tenuous at best.  

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 8:15:17 AM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote:

 This high desert rider will be visiting Whidbey Island in Washington next 
 month and would like some ride recommendations.  We will be staying near 
 Coupeville.  Looking for medium length rides--30-50 miles with interesting 
 views, quite roads and perhaps an interesting place to stop and refuel. 
  Also, any ideas for other activities would be appreciated.  I've been 
 there before but only in the fall and winter, so I'm looking forward to 
 experiencing the northwest at its summer best!


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[RBW] Re: Anne on the Great Divide

[stonehog]

Anne - enjoy the ride!  I can't wait to see the pictures and hear about the 
highs and lows of the trek.  Wow - envious!!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 11:26:46 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I leave for Banff Saturday, and start toward the Mexican border July 
 1. In case you feel like following my progress, my GPS breadcrumb 
 trail will be here: 
 https://share.delorme.com/AnnePaulson 

 Riv content: I'm bringing wooly garments, my Rivendell-purchased 
 Trangia, and my Just Ride attitude. 

 On my next-to-last pre-Divide dirt ride, I crashed on a downhill, so 
 I'll also be bringing my scrapes. I think I was going too slowly-- my 
 front wheel washed out. Ay ay ay, I don't like to go fast on steep 
 loose downhills, but I probably would have been better off speeding up 
 on that one. Fortunately, most of the Divide is much less steep that 
 the stuff I ride around here. 

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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

[stonehog]

In my opinion, blinkies are what safety obsessed newbies or just folks too 
selfish to care about group biking etiquette use. Sometimes when we grow up, 
the blinky goes off. 

Seriously, folks - if you have to wear the reflective gear of a DOT flagger, 
AND have several blinkies to feel safe, do it. I will either pass your annoying 
beacon or find an alternate route. 

Brian Hanson
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[RBW] Re: How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

[stonehog]

I personally wish I would have listened to the wisdom of the group when I 
joined this forum in '08.  I would have saved a lot of time and money...  

I originally had 46cm Noodles on my Hilsen, but found the drops unusable at 
the time as they felt 'way too low' and the 46cm was wide enough that my 
forearms hit the tops when I was in the drops - that was weird.  I was also 
coming from years of flat bar mtb riding, and hadn't ridden in drops since 
the 80s. I then went down the long slow spiral of cockpit madness trying 
porteur bars (liked, but numbed hands over 50 miles), albatross (weird 
curve angle for my wrists), moustache (nope - too few positions).  After 
several years of experimentation, when I started doing longer rides (100, 
200km), going to Nitto 115 (plain old drops) I had the revelation that a 
narrow drop works really well.  

I ended up finally on 42cm Noodles (nirvana), but, on the recent Oregon 
Outback I tried 44cm Noodles on my Hunqa to get more leverage and, while 
they kept my hands happy like my narrower noodles, they didn't give me 
quite the leverage to feel in control on some of the fast gravel descents 
with a good load in low-riders.  Perhaps 46 or 48 Noodles - yes back to the 
beginning? I also realize that most of the time, my aero position is 
putting my hands on the flats close to the stem, bending my elbows, and 
dropping my body down.  I almost never use the drops, but they are nice 
when I'm doing a fast descent into the wind on gravel or road.  They also 
allow me to stretch my back out a bit more.

The following is a summary of some things I've learned:

1. Drops give you the more positions for your back and hand pressure 
relief, as well as allowing control and aero positions when you are riding 
into the wind
2. Narrow bars work well with easier steering bikes a-la low trail like 
my Toussaint, or when used with higher trail bikes on the groomed road with 
light loads
3. Gravel and higher trail requests more leverage (wider bars) for 
confidence, of which the Albastache is more ideal for me due to the brake 
position in the front (where hands are when descending fast), and the good 
wrist angle I get in the curves compared to the Albatross
4. I wasn't super comfortable in drops until started riding longer 
distances, and improving core strength helped a lot - pilates is good, 
easy, and doesn't require a gym membership or equipment
5. All this is my opinion only - you may have the opposite experience...

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA


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[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

[stonehog]

Here's the last day's post. 
 http://stonehog.com/2015/06/11/oregon-outback-2015-day-5/

In summary, this is a great, humbling route that really shows the beauty 
and remoteness available to us in the Northwest.  I can see doing rides 
like this in several areas across Oregon or Washington (to say nothing of 
other large empty western states), and this route made me start looking at 
maps in a different light.  Places like Horse Heaven, Fern Hollow, 
Buckskin Canyon - man they are just calling out to me!  I thought I had 
to go to Utah to get into this kind of country, but it's much closer...  

Mixed terrain rides are really rewarding - you can go way out there and get 
to places most drivers never venture to.  It's not easy to ride most of a 
day on gravel, but I didn't find it to be more difficult than a typical 
randonneuring ride, and felt much more relaxed due to the fact that we 
could just sort of camp wherever or whenever the mood struck.  Freedom!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA  

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[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

[stonehog]

Next installment 
up: http://stonehog.com/2015/06/10/oregon-outback-2015-day-4/

This was an amazing day - most scenic and fun riding of the trip, for me at 
least.  

Brian Hanson
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[RBW] Re: Whidbey Island Rides

[stonehog]

Hi Darin - I can hook you up with a ride on Whidbey.  Coupeville is in the 
middle, so you can get a good loop north or south that would fit your 
criteria.  Great roads, and a few hills :)  Let me know when you are 
coming.  If I'm available that week/weekend, I'd be happy to guide. 
 Perhaps we can make it a Riv Ride - Whidbey Island Edition?

Brian Hanson
Freeland (and Seattle), WA

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 8:15:17 AM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote:

 This high desert rider will be visiting Whidbey Island in Washington next 
 month and would like some ride recommendations.  We will be staying near 
 Coupeville.  Looking for medium length rides--30-50 miles with interesting 
 views, quite roads and perhaps an interesting place to stop and refuel. 
  Also, any ideas for other activities would be appreciated.  I've been 
 there before but only in the fall and winter, so I'm looking forward to 
 experiencing the northwest at its summer best!


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[RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

[stonehog]

I'm surprised to hear Mark's experience with shredded Thunder Burts on the 
Oregon Outback.  I ran the liteskin 2.1 tubeless, and had one leak early 
on the first day, but managed to spin seal it, and never had to pump it up 
again.  My buddy was running the Snakeskin 2.1 rear and 2.25 front, and had 
a similar early leak on the rear that we sealed with some pumping and 
spinning, but he did manage to pinch flat the front on an extra aggressive 
creek crossing submerged rock hit on day 4 (the guy behind us double 
flatted his beefier tires), and we tubed it due to a .5 cm cut that needed 
more than sealant.  At the end of the ride, after a clean up, the tires 
don't look too much worse for wear.  I could see putting a lot more miles 
on these bad boys.  And dann - they are supple!

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 5:35:53 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Since I have two other tire threads going, I may as well go for the 
 trifecta! Grin.

 Any and all experiences with Thunder Burts appreciated. I’m trying them 
 out as a fast rolling all terraine tire (I know they are a racing tire, 
 viewing it as a wide knobby version of the Barlow Pass, sort of — hoping 
 for a smoother, faster ride over all terrians).

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

[stonehog]

I'm putting up my recount of the trip by day.  The first couple are up:

http://stonehog.com/2015/06/07/oregon-outback-2015-day-1/
http://stonehog.com/2015/06/08/oregon-outback-2015-day-2/

Still thinking about this trip!

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:

 I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a 
 hodgepodge of bags (Riv Med SaddleSack, Swift Paloma, and Orlieb) to carry 
 the often times large loads. After 360 miles of rain, mud, dust, and lots 
 of gravel roads, I am happy to report no mechanicals. The Hunqapillar was 
 rock solid.  There were 40+mph downhills with 30mph wind gusts, and I never 
 felt under biked. Kudos to the 2.1 Thunder Burts. I had an almost flat the 
 first day, but a little air and spin, and the Stan's sealant did its work. 
 No problem for the next 300 miles. I will get a better write up with pics 
 in the next few days. No other Rivs sighted, but I heard there was an 
 Atlantis on the ride. 

 P.S. Thumbs up for fenders. Mine was the only fendered bike I saw, and 
 they kept my water bottles usable. 

 Brian Hanson 
 Seattle, WA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

[stonehog]

Amazing as always.  Love the SA saddles.  No sores from the get-go.  YMMV...

Brian

On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 8:51:41 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 Brian. Incredible. How did you like the SA saddle on the trip?

 -Jim W.




 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:13 PM, stonehog ston...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 I'm putting up my recount of the trip by day.  The first couple are up:


 http://stonehog.com/2015/06/07/oregon-outback-2015-day-1/

 http://stonehog.com/2015/06/08/oregon-outback-2015-day-2/


 Still thinking about this trip!


 Brian

 Seattle, WA


 On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:


 I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a

 hodgepodge of bags (Riv Med SaddleSack, Swift Paloma, and Orlieb) to carry

 the often times large loads. After 360 miles of rain, mud, dust, and lots 
 of

 gravel roads, I am happy to report no mechanicals. The Hunqapillar was rock

 solid.  There were 40+mph downhills with 30mph wind gusts, and I never felt

 under biked. Kudos to the 2.1 Thunder Burts. I had an almost flat the 
 first

 day, but a little air and spin, and the Stan's sealant did its work. No

 problem for the next 300 miles. I will get a better write up with pics in

 the next few days. No other Rivs sighted, but I heard there was an Atlantis

 on the ride.


 P.S. Thumbs up for fenders. Mine was the only fendered bike I saw, and

 they kept my water bottles usable.


 Brian Hanson

 Seattle, WA


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[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

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Next segment up: http://stonehog.com/2015/06/09/oregon-outback-2015-day-3/

Featuring less photos (more riding), Fort Rock, Sage Hollow, Bear Creek, 
Crooked Creek, and Prineville Reservoir...

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[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

[stonehog]

Here are the pics from the ride.  @Deacon - it wasn't exactly mud - let's 
say there were probably some serious bacteria in there - lots of cows 
around.  @Mark - I didn't make it to the start - we were in a hotel a mile 
down the course and left from there.  Glad to hear you were able to replace 
that derailleur - that ride would be rough on a single speed, especially at 
the tail end.  

https://flic.kr/s/aHskcFpzhQ

Brian Hanson
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[RBW] Haulin' Colin Porteur Rack Dimensions?

[stonehog]

David, I have one on my Hunqapillar, so if the mounts are in the same place, it 
should fit, but I would get the specifics from Riv and Colin. The dimensions 
are 12 W x 10 forward. The tombstone is 2 1/4 wide and 4 1/2 tall.

Brian Hanson
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[RBW] Re: Any doing Oregon Outback?

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Yes - a couple folks from Seattle planning to make the ride.  We are taking 
the Amtrak to Klamath Falls.  I'll be on a Hunqapillar.  Not sure about 
post-ride quite yet, but planning on taking a 4-6 day ride and diverging 
from the official course around Prineville to get more time on the 
Deschutes river trails.  I believe there may be more folks from Portland 
vs. Seattle ride contingent, but haven't heard the final verdict yet. 
 Definitely no racing here...

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 4:58:41 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 Anyone doing it this year?

 Anyone traveling from Portland?

 Anyone taking the train (or renting a car)?

 Any plans to get back to Portland post ride?

 Let's talk logistics (not tire choices) :)


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[RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

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I will have a better report after the Oregon Outback, but I've been 
commuting and done a couple 25+ mile rides with gravel on the Hunqa with 
tubeless Thunder Burts (TLR, not Snakeskin), and they are great so far.  I 
do ~30/40 front/rear PSI, and no flats or problems thus far.  Probably have 
400 miles on 'em. Good wear, good traction, better ride than Hetres (rode 
them yesterday for comparison) - maybe not quite as fast on pave, but 
smooth and more compliant over bumpy sections.  Volume helps!  
Another Hunqa Thunder: https://flic.kr/p/s8QDjZ

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA


On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 2:09:25 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Mud report: 2.1 Thunder Burts float over the mud compared to Smart Sams. 
 I was stunningly fast climbing up muddy roads and trails (sinking in an 
 inch plus when I stopped and stood on the road or trail, often quite a bit 
 more, once in something akin to quicksand made from clay and decomposed 
 granite up to my ankle before I climbed to a tuft of grass, not knowing how 
 much further to bottom). This comes at the expense of grip, tending to wash 
 out. I had plenty of traction to maintain forward momentum, but things were 
 sloppy on rutty parts with various ridges and valleys. For me, on today's 
 ride, the positive of speed due to floating over the mud far outweighed the 
 negative of the wash. I continue to be very impressed with these as an 
 excellent all rounder.

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Front Derailleur recomendations for A Homer Hilsen

[stonehog]

Dump the 105 and get an xt or a cx-70. 

Brian Hanson
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[RBW] Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

[stonehog]

Kevin - I've gone from Dureme 50s to Jack Brown 33s to Clement MSO 40s.  I just 
built a wheel set with tubeless Thunder Burt 54s for a long gravel ride. My 
favorites have been the Clements (so far - no time on the Burts yet). They are 
light, nice on road, and have done very well on dry single track. No flats, 
either, but that must be attributed mostly to luck. 

I went with wider tires for the upcoming ride mainly for better comfort. The 
Burts are a similar weight, as well, so just bonus float. I also have several 
other faster bikes if I need to feel lighter. 

Thoughts on lighter Hunqapillar build found here:
http://stonehog.com/2013/01/27/lighten-it-up/

Pics of Clements:
http://stonehog.com/2013/10/16/hunqlightfilmtest/

Some may say I've gone full circle if the Burts stay on for the long term. 

Brian Hanson
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[RBW] Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

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Forgot the pic of the Thunder Burts:
https://flic.kr/p/rP6PZM

Brian Hanson
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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

[stonehog]

Ann - one heaping scoop is fine. Fill water close to top and stir for 10 
seconds. Let your arm weight do the plunging - no need to push hard. Add water 
after to taste. Aeropress is an espresso maker, so it makes a strong cup if 
sipped straight. Still smoother than a machine. The biggest thing will be beans 
(please use fresh - within 7 days of roasting for best taste) and grinder. You 
want a consistent grind. If you find it tough to plunge, try courser grounds 
til you get it the way you like it. It generally takes me 20 seconds for a 
plunge, BTW. 

All of this is pure Opinion based on years of daily use. I've worn out several 
presses at this point, but it's dark up here in the winter months. 

Brian Hanson 
Seattle, WA
Daily Aeropress user since '08

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

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Baby Shoes or Hetres. Amazing tires, and they go Fast!!

Brian Hanson
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[RBW] Re: Brake Cable Hanger - Fork Crown Mount

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Shoji - I was considering exactly that.  I'll let you know how it 
performs...

Brian

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 7:22:34 AM UTC-8, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 One thought: changing to CX70 cantis might not result in bad shudder; the 
 design is quite different from CR720s. If you're going that route, I would 
 try the cantis without the fork-mount hanger and/or modding the rack.


 On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 1:17:21 AM UTC-5, stonehog wrote:

 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ca15089.htm

 Is anyone using this bad-boy with a rack also mounted at the fork crown?  
 I've been using v-brakes on my Hunqa, but the cable is right at the rack 
 mount level, so, although it works, it's sub-optimal as it goes up and over 
 the rack, so it has a bit of extra play.  I'd also like to be rid of the 
 problem solver (road levers).  I want to put CX-70 cantis on the front, but 
 had a bad experience with Tektro cantis on this bike's first build - bad 
 shudder.  I believe the fork crown mount is the answer...

 It would have to allow a rack to through mount, 'cauz I'm not giving up 
 the awesome rack on this.

 https://flic.kr/p/gJdUVX - shows the current situation with v-brakes.

 Brian Hanson
 Seattle, WA
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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Hub Area Bag, pair, Olive

[stonehog]

ME me!  I would love these.  

Brian Hanson
℅ thePlatform, LLC.
1000 2nd Ave STE 1000
Seattle, WA 98104
206-436-7997

Let me know where to send the paypal?

Brian

On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 8:01:47 PM UTC-8, Kendallspower wrote:

 lightly used. 100 shipped conus.


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[RBW] Re: A Thought for Sheldon Today

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I think a fitting memorial would be a small Sheldon Brown robot that sits 
in everyone's bike shop.  Something like a Siri/Echo interface with the 
Sheldon info store held within.  That would be awesome!  hey Sheldonbot - 
how do I cure inner knee pain?.

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 8:53:52 AM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 Just wanted to take a moment and mention that today is the date which 
 Sheldon Brown left us. 
 Once upon a time, it was not all that easy to find quality information 
 about bicycle equipment and history.  This was back when usenet actually 
 mattered, and listserv's were reasonably cutting edge.  
 It's hard to understate the comprehensive and clearly knowledgeable 
 presence that was Sheldon Brown. He methodically built and expanded a 
 website which brought together his copious helpful posts in the groups and 
 lists.
 Of course, what made him legendary was not just his technical knowledge, 
 but the humor and enjoyment he brought.  For many cyclists, April First 
 will remain Sheldon Brown Day - if you want to know why, start here - 
 http://sheldonbrown.com/5and5.html and then follow the links to other 
 ShelBroCo product announcements. 
 He was an amazing beacon of bicycle knowledge during the early years of 
 the internet. His love of bicycling and selfless sharing set a tone which 
 guides many of us today. Whether it was obscure Whitworth threading or 
 simple, thorough description of wheelbuilding, hub overhauling or flat 
 fixing, the solution was simple - AASHTA... As Always, Sheldon Has the 
 Answer.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

[stonehog]

Sport Transport!

Brian

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:57:35 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:

 We of the Upright Cyclists Brigade are mildly amused.

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:54 AM, John Phillips jphil...@icloud.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 The name needs some snappy alliteration and/or assonance like gravel 
 grinder if it's going to stick.

 My vote goes for Keith's idea: Couch Rocket or maybe Retro Couch 
 Rocket.

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[RBW] Re: FT - Looking for Noodles and SA saddle

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Updated list below - A few items left, now with prices (includes shipping). 
 Pay pal preferred.  Still interested in trades if you have Noodles or GB 
bars or Frogs...

On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 10:26:53 PM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:

 I have a few items that I would put forth as a trade offer (local would be 
 best - Seattle, WA).  I'm interested in Nitto Noodles in good shape: 42cm, 
 44cm, 46cm.  Would also take Gran Bois Maes Parallel bars.  I'm also 
 interested in a Selle Anatomica saddle.  Ideally it would still have life 
 left in it.  Don't care too much about color as long as it's red, burgundy, 
 natural, brown, or black :)  Would also love another set of Speedplay 
 Frogs...

 I have the following to offer in trade:

 Brooks B17 Special - Green (GONE)
 Brooks B17 Blue - (GONE)
 MKS Urban Step-in pedals (like new) - platform/Time ATAC dual purpose ($30)
 Shimano A530 SPD pedals (very good) - platform/SPD dual purpose ($30)
 Nitto Moustache Bar - 26.0 - original (GONE)
 On-One Midge dirt drops (very good) - ($30)
 VO Tourist bar (GONE)
 Nitto flat bar on Nitto quill stem (good but worn) - from Miyata 
 Ridge-Runner '88 - cool bar and stem - shows age and wear, but solid ($30)
 GranBois Cypres 700x30mm (GONE)

 Most of this is pictured here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk4rzznt

 If you don't have a trade, make me an offer.  

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[RBW] Re: WTB 80mm Nitto DirtDrop Stem or Periscopa

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Jayme - i have a Periscopa (25.4) that I'm not using.  Make me an offer.

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 11:43:20 AM UTC-8, Jayme Frye wrote:

 Anyone have a 80mm DirtDrop or Periscopa languishing in there parts bin 
 that they are willing to part with?
 Cheers

 Jayme


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[RBW] Re: One drawback to flippin' your bike for roadside repair.

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That's what the kickstand is for.  Use it and lean the bike against 
something.  The front wheel and kickstand hold the bike upright at an 
angle, but give you room to remove the rear tire - that's the one that 
always gets the flat, right??

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 2:49:03 PM UTC-8, lungimsam wrote:

 Scratches your leather saddle to turn the bike upside down.

 In light of the Blog post about this, I figured I would ask you leather 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

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Tongue in cheek - compared to the amazing Heine/Ryan trips :)

Brian

On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 9:50:43 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote:

 90 hilly gravel miles a day, while carrying some minimal camping gear, 
 is leisurely? Usually people don't even call 90 paved touring miles 
 leisurely. 

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:50 PM, stonehog ston...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 
  Thread revival.  I'm planning to do this one on my Hunqapillar this 
 year.  I 
  am thinking about the camping situation.  Has anyone insight at this 
 point 
  on what worked last year?  Example - I like to camp light on the bike - 
 sans 
  tent.  Did folks make this work last year?  I realize it will totally 
 depend 
  on the weather conditions, but how are bugs along the trail?  I haven't 
 done 
  much camping in OR on the east side of the crest. 
  
  FWIW, I am currently planning to try to do this in 4-5 days (leisurely), 
  with minimal shelter (pad and sleeping bag), maybe a light tarp in case 
 of 
  rain, a few changes of wool, and the essentials. 
  
  What worked for you last year? 
  
  Brian 
  Seattle, WA 
  
  
  On Sunday, November 16, 2014 at 7:58:39 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: 
  
  Noticing the messages about the Oregon Outback, I thought we could 
  have a rollcall of who was planning to do it next spring, and how many 
  days you're expecting to take. 
  
  I'm planning to give it a try. Six days; I'm not racing. 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

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Already have a perfect OO bike in the Hunq...  And my wife would kill me :)

Brian

On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 1:11:10 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Why aren't you ordering the new Bantam monster?

 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:50 PM, stonehog ston...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Thread revival.  I'm planning to do this one on my Hunqapillar this 
 year.  I am thinking about the camping situation.  Has anyone insight at 
 this point on what worked last year?  Example - I like to camp light on the 
 bike - sans tent.  Did folks make this work last year?  I realize it will 
 totally depend on the weather conditions, but how are bugs along the 
 trail?  I haven't done much camping in OR on the east side of the crest. 

 FWIW, I am currently planning to try to do this in 4-5 days (leisurely), 
 with minimal shelter (pad and sleeping bag), maybe a light tarp in case of 
 rain, a few changes of wool, and the essentials.  

 What worked for you last year?

 Brian
 Seattle, WA


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 Noticing the messages about the Oregon Outback, I thought we could 
 have a rollcall of who was planning to do it next spring, and how many 
 days you're expecting to take. 

 I'm planning to give it a try. Six days; I'm not racing. 

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[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

[stonehog]

Thread revival.  I'm planning to do this one on my Hunqapillar this year. 
 I am thinking about the camping situation.  Has anyone insight at this 
point on what worked last year?  Example - I like to camp light on the bike 
- sans tent.  Did folks make this work last year?  I realize it will 
totally depend on the weather conditions, but how are bugs along the trail? 
 I haven't done much camping in OR on the east side of the crest. 

FWIW, I am currently planning to try to do this in 4-5 days (leisurely), 
with minimal shelter (pad and sleeping bag), maybe a light tarp in case of 
rain, a few changes of wool, and the essentials.  

What worked for you last year?

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Sunday, November 16, 2014 at 7:58:39 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Noticing the messages about the Oregon Outback, I thought we could 
 have a rollcall of who was planning to do it next spring, and how many 
 days you're expecting to take. 

 I'm planning to give it a try. Six days; I'm not racing. 

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[RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested

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Hugh!  I have had them on my Miyata for a year and change. 
 https://flic.kr/p/g6AE6C  

I recall when I received them feeling let down initially (before riding) as 
the tread seemed thick and very much like a normal Pasela.  However, after 
a few rides, I realized this took nothing away from the comfort and speed 
of the tires.  It also gives them a bit more stickiness.  I've only used 
them for commuting, but they go well.  My average ride times on this bike 
are within a minute of my Homer with Stampede Pass tires.  They are as 
fast, and more importantly, as comfortable as the Hetres, and actually 
remind me of these tires most of all.  Or maybe it's the bike?  :)

Like!!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:40:21 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Hi Bunch, 

 Has anyone had experience with the above tires? If yes how do they compare 
 to the Big Ben's? The compass weigh in at 440g which are light and I 
 presume would roll fast. I wonder how they'd handle mixed terrain? How they 
 hold up over time? In advance thanks for your thoughts. 

 Cheers, 

 ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] shimano cx-70 canti question

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I use the CX-70 as the front brake on my Miyata commuter.  Two observations:

1. fit/finish, and feel is good in my opinion - better modulation than the 
CR720s or V-Brakes I've used (Deore, XT).
2. the hanger and cable attachment on these are more complicated than they 
need to be.

I replaced the fixed hanger cable (it wasn't long enough to clear my rack) 
with a cheap dia-compe hanger and regular old canti hanger cable.  Works 
great.  What isn't great is the silly release built into the brake arm.  To 
fit the button in, you have to have extra slack in the cable to angle one 
end of it into the closed hole (https://flic.kr/p/qceReY).  Much more work 
than the simple open half-circle on a brake like the CR720 
(https://flic.kr/p/qtBQ9n).  Seems like a badly designed attempt to avoid 
lawsuits.  Brake lawyer lips?  I'm tempted to dremel the circle into a 
half circle at some point...

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Friday, December 19, 2014 8:54:41 PM UTC-8, AaronY wrote:


 http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/dia-compe-cable-stop-with-quick-release.html

 Here's another option that adds a quick release function to the brake 
 line.  I have one of these installed on a bike with center pulls and it 
 works great.  I like non-aero brakes so the Tektro levers aren't my first 
 choice.

 BTW, I just bought the CX-70's for the same reason as you, Drew.  I'm glad 
 you brought this up as I imagine I will have the same problem you 
 mentioned.  I think I will buy one of these dia compe cable stops right 
 now in anticipation.

 Can anyone who is actively using these brakes speak to how well they 
 work?  Usually, if Riv is selling something I just trust that it will work 
 well enough.  I'm expecting the same from these CX-70's but I read an 
 Amazon review saying skip 'em and go for the cheaper Tektro 720's.  Can 
 anyone weigh in?  Thanks.

 Aaron Young
 The Dalles, OR




 On Fri Dec 19 2014 at 7:48:55 PM Dan McNamara djmcn...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 I have had good luck using the release on Tektro brakes with the CX-70. 
 Not sure I could get the straddle off without that slack. 

 Dan



 On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:33 PM, drew beckmeyer drewbe...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 ok, i feel like this is going to end with me missing something obvious. i 
 just got the cx-70 brakes to avoid having to deflate/squeeze my 700x50 
 tires everytime i want to take the wheels off. im not so new to cantilever 
 brakes but somewhat new to big tires that prevent easy on and off. 

 riv's site sort of implies that they open up easy enough and this video 
 shows a guy doing it
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA7f-v3Rmts (skip to 1:04)  
 here is the description and pics of it opened up
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/brc3.htm

 in my reality, when set up and adjusted correctly, it doesnt seem 
 possible to slip the hanger cable from the brake. there isnt enough slack 
 to get the cable to slide out of that little slot, it seems. if the brakes 
 are super wide, i can get it to go, but it has to be uncomfortably far from 
 the rim. adjusting the inline barrel to it's slackest doesnt really work 
 either. 

 so... am i missing something, and if so, what?  id like to avoid 
 deflating or loosening the other side of the cable hanger and then 
 readjusting the brakes all over again. i couldve done that with the old 
 brakes.

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[RBW] Re: Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

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I've done this a couple times in a few different ways with the BM Toplight 
Line Plus:

1. I've scrounged my reflector attachment parts, and mounted the light on 
the seat post this way: https://flic.kr/p/gJd3iB or 
https://flic.kr/p/gJcXSG with other pics here: 
 https://flic.kr/p/gKGwPy https://flic.kr/p/iRFEci  https://flic.kr/p/iRH1iB
2.  or mounted to the seat tube: https://flic.kr/p/jdQhEq
3. Use an L bracket and bend it carefully to attach at a braze-on mount 
like this: https://flic.kr/p/aBEtGy
4. and if you have a basket and some washers?  https://flic.kr/p/9h37zs

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
www.stonehog.com

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:44:33 AM UTC-8, DS wrote:

 Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender, seatpost, 
 or rack brazeons without using the rear rack? 

 I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the 
 rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a 
 different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so 
 thought I'd ask here. 


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[RBW] Re: Help Choosing Tires - Jack Brown vs. Compass Stampede Pass

[stonehog]

Sean - I just dropped my Jack Brown Greens for some new Stampede Pass tires 
and rode a 200k on Wednesday.  Thoughts. I like the Stampede Pass better 
immediately, but I am sensitive to tires and weigh in at a whopping 160 
lbs.  They are more compliant over rough roads, and are nearly as cush as 
the much larger Hetres (650b).   Best thing out there for my Hilsen in 700c 
so far.  If you want a fast, cush tire, and can spend the dough, the 
Stampede Pass is great.  The Jacks are definitely great, too.  When I 
removed them, they measured in at 34.5mm (https://flic.kr/p/pEfBeM), and 
still have a lot of life left in them.  the difference in tread is another 
area I would point out.  The Compass tread feels more grippy (still new) 
but the JB tread looks unique.  For reference, I fill my tires to 60psi 
rear, and 45psi front.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
Ride report on the 200k 
at http://stonehog.com/2014/11/29/late-season-permanent/ 


On Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:14:38 AM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Now that the indoor riding season has begun, my thoughts have turned to 
 getting my bikes ready for the 2015 outdoor season.  Specifically, I am 
 looking for new tires for my Black Mountain Cycles road bike.  This bike 
 was new to me last summer, and is really a joy to ride.  It is my go-to 
 bike, fast rides, long rides - you name it this bike can do it.  

 Last summer I had it set-up with some old tires I had lying around - a 
 Rolly-Polly in the front and a Roughy-Toughy in the back.  For 2015 I am 
 looking for something new.  My hope is to find the best combination of 
 speed-comfort-durability.  

 The bike is designed to fit tires up to 33.3 mm wide.  I've narrowed 
 down my selections to the Jack Brown and the Stampede Pass.  Lots of folks 
 here seem to like Jack Brown, but I don't read much about the Stampede Pass 
 tires.  Has anyone used both?  I would love to hear a comparison.  I would 
 also be interested in any long-term reviews of the Stampede Pass tires.

 A third tires I considered was the Challenge Strada Bianca.  However, from 
 what I have read, this seems to be a tire that is difficult to mount (I've 
 got Open Pro rims) and not terribly durable.  Any thoughts on this tired 
 (especially compared to the other two I am looking at) would be appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Sean
 Buffalo,NY


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[RBW] Re: Post Thanksgiving Cranksgiving Dirt Paradise Ride.

[stonehog]

Looks like another great ride, Hugh!  Love Ole Willys - all set up to kick 
up the dirt.

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:21:34 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Three plus hours and twenty miles of pristine dirt single track around 
 Carmel Valley in San Diego ' s North County was enjoyed by we five members 
 of (SCAR) SoCal All Rounders. David Greenblatt, Mike Shiller, Tom Virgil, 
 Curtis Mckenzie and I socalpedalpusher.

 We all met at David's home and promptly dropped into Gonzalez Canyon 
 zigzaging through dense chaparral with abandon. The weather was sunny and 
 pleasant with a slight breeze. Apologies to the the Northern climes. 

 Our dear Tom had run out of time and made an exit, for he had Christmas 
 tree trimming duty waiting for him,  it was great to see him but too short 
 for me. Tom and I met the next day for coffee outside which was great.

 As with gleeful joy on single track often a sacrifice is made to the trail 
 gods. Our Mike Shiller was gallant enough to shed some blood for the cause 
 when he and a tree had a disagreement, Mike' wounds were treated a red 
 bandanna was added to his outfit (made him that much more gnarled) and off 
 we went resuming our ride...by the way the tree was fine just in case you 
 were wondering.

 This has been David's playground for a while now so he put together a bow 
 tie dirt event for us...he tied together two Canyons and a Mesa with next 
 to no cars to contend with. Literally the GPS mapping is a bow tie as we 
 crossed under the 56 freeway multiple times.

 After Gonzalez we dropped into Penasquitos Canyon after climbing a short 
 steep access road. We cheerfully glided down smooth undulating single track 
 along the North side of Penasquitos Canyon  heading West where we crossed 
 paths with the few hikers on our adventure. Soon we made a short stop at 
 the Waterfalls for snacks, bike talk and future rides.

 Continuing we looped back around and headed East up Penasquitos. David 
 saved the best till last the Del Mar Mesa Preserve where the tunnels exist. 
 These are scrub oak grown over making a tunnel canopy with yet more 
 singletrack winding it's way down another small canyon a technical sheer 
 blast! One had to be vigilant so as not to have your head smashed backward 
 from low hanging branches. As I rolled through the tunnels hugging *(Ole 
 Willy's) top tube I wondered how Curtis at 6'7 was fairing? He came 
 through for the most unscathed a little bit of bark was seen in his 
 vicinity.

 Concluding our ride at Greenblatt ' s Ale House David was a great host 
 lots of chips  dips, some Sculpin grapefruit ale and Speedway Stout was 
 had, adding at least on my part 10% by volume the  extra cherry on the 
 proverbial cake on the perfect day in the saddle. With the sun set...

 ...we parted ways I was left with the image of all the broad smiles while 
 playing in the dirt.

 Up next? Sweetwater Regional Park Camping.

 Mike' Flickr images, https://flic.kr/p/qeA3nc

 David's Flickr images, https://flic.kr/p/qbXzqG

 My Flickr images, https://flic.kr/p/pXaLGJ

 Tom's Flickr images, https://flic.kr/p/qe4Su2

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[RBW] Re: Thankful Weekend

[stonehog]

Thanks, Jim - still the best list on the net.  Appreciate all the work that 
goes into this!

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:39:49 AM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 Rides have been fewer and the miles less this year. 

 But, it just makes each one that much more special.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/15706354228/

 Thanks to all for their contributions to this list, for those who read and 
 enjoy but who may not pipe up, and for all the future new members pedaling 
 our way.

 Blessings to you and to all you hold dear.

 - jim

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[RBW] Re: Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?

[stonehog]

Why yes it is!  Nice bag.  Going to be using it tomorrow on a 200k around 
Whidbey Island.  I took it for a test wiggle today, and no shimmy with my 
tool roll under the seat, and the Paloma up front.  Can't wait!

Brian

On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:27:58 AM UTC-8, John Phillips wrote:

 Brian, 

 Is that a Swift Industries Paloma bag on your handlebars?

 On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:39:13 PM UTC-8, Lovie Cashew wrote:

 Currently in the market for a lugged steel roadbike for commuting. I only 
 use a rear rack with a basket containing 15lbs or so of stuff. Current (and 
 past) bikes get that front end lateral shimmy/wobble at 16-18mph or faster 
 when loaded with 200lb me and my gear on it when I ride with no hands off 
 my drop bars. Super annoying, and problem only goes away when I put hands 
 back on ths bars or clamp the top tube with my legs. And yes I have tried 
 tightening my headset and stem down (amongst many other tactics). According 
 to RBW, Im sized in the low 60's of their double top tube bikes. 

 MY QUESTION IS: Any similar or larger Riv Riders get the front of the 
 bike shaking when loaded rear only? Not looking to change how I ride, just 
 want to know if buying a double top tube bike will cure this problem. 

 Many Many Thanx !!! 

 A-



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Re: [RBW] Speed Wobble on Big Rivs?

[stonehog]

My 59 Hilsen just took on a mean shimmy when I removed the front bag and put a 
basket on a Mark's Rack in the back. Carrying about 3-5 lbs shimmied nastily 
no-handed, and even shook a bit with hands on bars. I just had the headset 
replaced from a Tange ball-bearing to a Miche needle top and bottom, and this 
seemed to not help at all. I had some mild shimmy before, BTW. I also noticed 
that as I lean forward and put more weight to the front of the bike, the shimmy 
calms.  It was bad enough that I immediately removed the offending rear rack 
and basket and put my front bag on again. Shimmy, vanquished. 

Before - major shimmy: http://flic.kr/p/pS6tUc
After - no shimmy: http://flic.kr/p/ntqSPz

I recall a post a few yrs back from a fellow who experimented with different 
weighting in front and back. I believe he found that in his case having any 
weight in the back caused the shimmy.  

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mini-Grant-Sandwiches

[stonehog]

I recall our childhood hiking food/snack was usually a tin of sardines, 
smoked oysters, or tuna fish.  Love all three.  The original power bar...

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:43:37 PM UTC-8, hangtownmatt wrote:

 Patrick,

 My father was born a bit earlier than yours.  Lived through the depression 
 and loved canned sardines on soda crackers.  At the time he was the only 
 one in the house that would touch em' but I have since acquired a taste.  
 What do they say about parenting and kids?  You don't think they're (kids) 
 watching or even give a damm, but they are and they do!

 Matt

 On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 5:34:54 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Tinned fish and soda crackers. Huh! My father (born 1923) grew up in the 
 depression deep south (his family was relatively well to do -- my 
 grandfather was CFO for the Nehi soda pop company) but he saw how the other 
 half lived -- look at the photos of Margaret Bourke White). He told me once 
 that a typical cheap lunch for the working poor -- a nickel or a dime -- 
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[RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

[stonehog]

Stiff sole: FiveTen Spitfire (heavy) or Ascent (light). Favorite for 
running/walking/biking with a minimalist bent are Evolve Cruzers (thx Amit!). I 
have 3 pairs - I like em that much. 

Brian Hanson
Seattle WA

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Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

[stonehog]

+1 on that.  I'm riding Hetre EL on PL23 with Stans goo, and have yet to 
flat in a few months of daily commutes through the mean streets.  Yes - I 
can have my bacon and eat it too.  Yum yum!!!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Saturday, November 15, 2014 4:20:43 PM UTC-8, David G wrote:


  I essentially never get flats with Hetres. Perhaps because I run them 
 tubeless with Stan's sealant. In 4-5 years riding Hetres and now 
 Babyshoes in Madison WI, San Fran, and San Diego, I have experienced a leak 
 on two occasions that I can remember, requiring mid-ride adding of air, but 
 I have never gotten a bona fide flat. Knock wood. I love these tires! For 
 those of you who run Hetres/Babyshoes (or any other high volume, low 
 pressure tire) with tubes, why don't you try tubeless? 
  
 - David G in San Diego
  
  
 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Eric Norris campyo...@me.com 
 javascript: wrote:
  
  Obviously, Jan H. is lucky not to have to deal with this on a daily 
 basis:

 https://flic.kr/p/pM2AGC 

 His flat-free experience would be much different, I think, if he had to 
 ride in these conditions.

 P.S. Today’s ride: No flats!!

 —Eric N
 campyo...@me.com javascript:
 www.campyonly.com
 www.wheelsnorth.org
 Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
 Twitter: @campyonlyguy 



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[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul

[stonehog]

Agreed - thanks, Michael.  The 105 and a Sachs I had laying around both 
have cages that nearly brush the chain stay.  I pulled the CX70 from the 
hunqa and will be using that.

Brian

On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 3:27:40 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I have not found the 105 to be the best choice for very small chainrings. 
  The cage is too long to get low enough before it hits the stay.  I have 
 found the Campy Comp Triple to be much better.  I think the IRD is molded 
 after it.

 Enjoy the new ride.

 Michael

 On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 1:42:43 AM UTC-5, stonehog wrote:

 I am finishing up an overhaul on my '09 AHH.  I've changed out a few 
 things - replaced my Jack Brown Greens (measured 34.5mm when I pulled 'em) 
 with Compass Stampede Pass rubber (measuring around 31.5mm).  Edelux 2 to 
 improve lighting from the original 1.  

 On a lark, I put the old Mark's rack with the Plat rack extension on the 
 back of the bike.  I've come to realize that I don't like putting the 
 weight up front on this guy due to wheel flop, but I still want to 
 occasionally camp with this bike - a good platform is key.  

 I also changed out most of the drivetrain:
 1. dropped the 44T for a 42T to hopefully reduce the chance of breaking 
 another front derailleur
 2. went back to indexed 9-speed downtube shifters and rear 9-speed 
 cassette - also retrying the Wipperman chain

 In an effort to reduce the (albeit light) occasional shimmy, I put a 
 Miche needle bearing headset on.  

 Initial test rides show are nice and snappy!!, but I have some work to do 
 on the derailleur adjustments (rear) and will have to put the 105 front 
 derailleur back on (tried an older Sachs) due to clearance on the tight 
 Compass cranks.  One more day and it'll be just right.  

 Pics:  https://flic.kr/s/aHsk4EQ4R1

 Brian Hanson
 Seattle, WA
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[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul

[stonehog]

I like the Herse cranks a lot.  High quality, thick/durable chainrings. 
 I've used them now for over a year and several thousand miles between two 
bikes.  No problems other than a couple broken derailleurs on one of the 
cranks (the Hilsen, of course) that are likely either chainline or too big 
a jump.  Still experimenting on that.  For reference, it happened to 2 
different derailleurs - Shimano CX70 outer cage fail, and Campy Centaur CT 
inner cage fail: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk1iQ4KS 

Brian

On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 2:32:41 PM UTC-8, WETH wrote:

 Brian,
 I like the idea of Mark rack with platrack on the rear. I may have to give 
 that a try.
 Are those Rene Herse cranks from Compass?  If so, how do you like them? 
 How have the chainrings worn compared to other brands?  I am thinking of 
 buying a set for my Rivendell Road Standard.  Any thoughts after you have 
 used them for a while would be appreciated.
 Thanks,
 Erl

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[RBW] Re: Hilsen Overhaul

[stonehog]

CX-70 and Campy Centaur CT: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk1iQ4KS 

For what it's worth, I moved to a 42/28 setup on the cranks now, and I'm 
putting another CX-70 on it.  Will test this out to see if it was the 
original 44 ring, or the 14-tooth shift that stressed the derailleur.

I have a nice Suntour XC Pro FD on my other bike with the Herse cranks 
(also 44/28).  No problems ever.  Love that stuff - almost bought some NOS 
Suntours a while back.  Gevenalle looks promising, 
too: http://www.gevenalle.com/store/products/derailleurs/   Supposedly 
stiffer steel cage (to handle demands of mud-caked CX races), and not badly 
priced.  

Brian

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:42:48 AM UTC-8, GAJett wrote:

 What derailleurs have you been breaking?  

 My Hilsen has a 44-41-24 triple setup. This originally came with a 
 nondescript wide-range triple front derailleur, which shifted miserably. 

 I then put on an old SunTour Supurbe racing derailleur.  This shifts 
 like a dream on the 17-tooth jump from the small chainwheel.  

 The Supurbe came off my old bike with a 49-44-26 TA chainset, where it 
 also shifted quite well over the 23-tooth jump.  That old bike now has a 
 old Huret Jubilee front derailleur, which is quite serviceable, despite the 
 apparent delicacy, for a bike that doesn't get ridden much anymore.

 Reading elsewhere I have found numerous comments that a standard racing 
 double often works better for extreme jumps than a wide range triple.  This 
 may be because the shorter cage is stiffer.  Your 14-tooth difference 
 should present no problem.  An added benefit would be that the shorter cage 
 would allow the front derailleur to sit closer to the outer chainring 
 without interference with the chainstay.  An old Campy Record might do the 
 trick.  The Shimano FD CX70 sold by Rivendell 
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/d14.htm might work as well for your 
 wide double.
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[RBW] Green Caffeinated Wheelmen mugs back in, and questions about Riv style pre-oredering.

[stonehog]

Yeah, put me down for 10 Edward Abbey bandanna's, Phil!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA 
(Heart is in Moab...)

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Re: [RBW] Re: I love 42s

[stonehog]

I put the Barlow's on when they came out and rode it for a few weeks.  I 
had VO Zeppelins and there were two issues.  Lots of toe overlap, and it 
felt big to me.  In a ponderous way, I guess.  It was much less nice than 
the Cypres tires I was used to, and the overlap was annoying so it killed 
it for me.  I sold 'em.  Pics: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjV5G7RQ

Tim - good info on the conversion - I appreciate the detailed response!  I 
have heard that it can be rough, and when it comes to brakes, I don't want 
to go to a less than good situation.  

As for the 38s being like the 42s.  Nope - I can really feel the 
difference.  Don't know if its the smaller wheels - I also love the 26 
compass tires - fast and plush - also 40+mm.  

Bill - I'll be chatting with you shortly...

Brian

On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 7:16:33 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:

 By way of counterpoint,
 Based on my recent experience going from 32s to 40+ on my AHH, I doubt I 
 would feel much of a difference between 38 and 42. I'm not trying to say 
 anybody who feels they have to have 42s is wrong, but for me I doubt it 
 warrants he fuss. I expect some other folks might find the same if they did 
 the experiment themselves.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crabon forks are not your best bet for swordfighting

[stonehog]

The funny thing is that a friend of mine was involved in some sword 
crafting and sparring with Neal and others over the past 7 or 8 years now.  
They started out by building a lot of their swords and armor out of carbon 
fibre, but have since gone to steel due to failures.  I don't have much 
more info than that, but carbon as an impact material is not as resilient 
as our friend steel.  Now someone can shoot that down, I'm sure :)

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:39:11 PM UTC-7, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro 
wrote:

 Anyone told Neal Stephenson about this?

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[RBW] Weird Request.

[stonehog]

https://flic.kr/p/ohYWyb

This one?

Brian

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[RBW] Re: Front Derailleur Fails

[stonehog]

I wouldn't be surprised if it is the ring spread.  I may go with a 42 or 
even 40 - don't need much on the top end these days - I like to coast down 
hills, and the 11t in back is a big gear.  Derailleur was new, not moved, 
and the rings are new, unramped.  I had a fair amount of small ring to big 
ring chain suck originally with 9-speed chains, so the CX70 got some wear 
from that early on until I moved to 7 and then 8 speed setups.  Never had 
this issue with the Campy - it just popped out one day.  The big jump 
theory holds weight.

Brian

On Monday, August 18, 2014 8:41:55 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 The only FD I have broken in 35 years was the clamp on a pretty Chorus. 
  16 is a big lift and does stress the derailler, getting the chain stuck 
 between the derailler and ring could weaken the joint.  The bottom of the 
 derailler has more flex while the top is secured, so maybe that contributed 
 to weakening over time.  How are the rings?  Ramped?  New or worn?

 Just as an aside, don't you find that 16 tooth difference creates an 
 awkward shifting patter?  It always seems to me that you are making many 
 shifts harder in order to get half a gear lower at the bottom.

 Michael

 On Monday, August 18, 2014 10:58:11 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 That's bizarre. You would think a derailer wouldn't break like that at 
 that place because any pressure/ movement would make the derailer move, not 
 resist and break.
 Does the chain  sometimes jam between the big ring and the derailer when 
 shifting into the large ring? That's the only thing I can think of that 
 would stress the cage to make it break like that. But I am no expert. Chain 
 suck maybe? Old age?
 Mine jams sometimes. Operator error I think. Shifting too far too fast.



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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

[stonehog]

I have two Rivs and weighed them in at normal running weight with 
tools/bags/pump included.

The first one up is my grey/maroon Hunqapillar - 54cm = *39 lbs*
Includes full racks/basket/bag for camping:

1. Tubus Cosmo rear rack
2. Haulin' Colin front rack (custom)
3. large Wald basket
4. Medium Sackville with tools
5. Brooks B17 w/Nitto S83 seatpost
6. XD600 double
7. Thin Gripsters
8. Albastache w/Nitto Dirt Drop 10cm stem
9. Bell, frame pump, 3 bottle cages
10. Sykes wood fenders
11. Velocity Synergy rims
12. Clemente X'plor MSO tires
13. Schmidt 28 Dyno, BM Cyo IQ light and tailight
14. kickstand

Next up - '09 A. Homer Hilsen - 59cm = *29 lbs*

Rando setup:

1. Swift Industries Paloma handlebar bag
2. Honjo hammered 45mm fenders
3. Rene Herse crank
4. Thin Gripsters
5. XS Sackville tool bag with tools
6. Velocity A23s rims
7. Jack Brown Greens
8. Selle Anatomica saddle with Thompson seatpost
9. Nitto Noodle 42cm with Nitto 10cm lugged stem
10. Bell, frame pump, and 3 bottle cages
11. Schmidt dyno hub and Edelux and BM taillight
13. kickstand

For what it's worth, I also weight the current rando bike, my 57cm Velo 
Routier (Cycle Toussaint) with a very similar build and size to the Homer, 
and it came in 1 lb heavier at *30 lbs*.  The build differences on the 
Toussaint are: 

1. 650b - Hetre ELs
2. Acorn Tall Boxy Rando bag with tools
3. Speedplay Frog pedals
4. Berthoud 50mm steel fenders
5. Pacenti PL23 rims

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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[RBW] Re: Anyone using a Saddlesack on a porteur rack?

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Yes - medium SaddleSack on haulin Colin rack. It wasn't ideal, but it worked 
out fine for a few months of commuting detail. I used a strap to hold the dowel 
up. I find the shopsack  basket a more versatile and aesthetic solution. At 
this point it is back on the saddle where it belongs. 

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Seattle (on the way to Entmoot)

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

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Jim - count me in.  I'll likely be there all three nights.  I'll be driving 
the SEA - PDX - SFO ferry pickup.  I have 2 riders (Smitty and Hugh) 
south, but could probably fit a 4th.  Only 1 other (Smitty) returning north 
at this point, so if anyone else needs a ride, let me know.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Monday, June 2, 2014 8:19:10 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 As mentioned above, I've reserved a 40-person group site at China Camp for 
 2 nights, July 12  13th. And because it's RBW's backyard, I've reserved a 
 30-person group site on Mt Diablo for Monday, July 14th. I assume there 
 will be some drop off of attendees, or even some informal camping in the 
 backcountry for Monday. 

 Master wheelbuilder Rich Lesnik has confirmed his attendance, as has RBW 
 all around nice guy Vince Nivolo. More announcements of RBW folk will be 
 forthcoming.

 For planning purposes, now would be a good time to let me know if you're 
 really going to attend. The poll didn't exceed 40, but if we have many more 
 than that, we should get another campsite or two.

 I have some volunteers already, but if you want to volunteer for something 
 (leading a ride, cooking, shuttling, moonshine distilling), let me know 
 that too.

 cheers
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

[stonehog]

Correction - Smitty and I will be leaving Monday.  Sign us up for China 
Camp only.  

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 11:43:42 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:

 Jim - count me in.  I'll likely be there all three nights.  I'll be 
 driving the SEA - PDX - SFO ferry pickup.  I have 2 riders (Smitty and 
 Hugh) south, but could probably fit a 4th.  Only 1 other (Smitty) returning 
 north at this point, so if anyone else needs a ride, let me know.

 Brian Hanson
 Seattle, WA

 On Monday, June 2, 2014 8:19:10 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 As mentioned above, I've reserved a 40-person group site at China Camp 
 for 2 nights, July 12  13th. And because it's RBW's backyard, I've 
 reserved a 30-person group site on Mt Diablo for Monday, July 14th. I 
 assume there will be some drop off of attendees, or even some informal 
 camping in the backcountry for Monday. 

 Master wheelbuilder Rich Lesnik has confirmed his attendance, as has RBW 
 all around nice guy Vince Nivolo. More announcements of RBW folk will be 
 forthcoming.

 For planning purposes, now would be a good time to let me know if you're 
 really going to attend. The poll didn't exceed 40, but if we have many more 
 than that, we should get another campsite or two.

 I have some volunteers already, but if you want to volunteer for 
 something (leading a ride, cooking, shuttling, moonshine distilling), let 
 me know that too.

 cheers
 jim 



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[RBW] Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

[stonehog]

Clement x'plor mso - great 40ish knobby. 

Brian Hanson 
Seattle, Wa

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[RBW] Re: 26 Tire Suggestions?

[stonehog]

Daniel - yeah - I mean the 1.75s (44mm).  Typo on my part...

Brian

On Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:11:57 PM UTC-7, Daniel M wrote:

 My wife and two or three other friends with 26 Long Haul Truckers and one 
 with a repurposed old 90's mountain bike have all run 2.0 Big Apples and 
 love the way they ride. One of them has upgraded to 2.15 Big Bens and they 
 fit the Long Haul with fenders.

 I have a 26 touring tank (Thorn Raven Tour) and rode 2.15 Big Apples for 
 a couple of years until the rear was worn smooth (er - even smoother!). I 
 think I had one flat the entire time and loved the way they rode as well. 
 Since then I've upgraded to 2.35 Super Motos (basically a Big Apple with a 
 folding bead and no kevlar belt). All I can say is - I'm in heaven. It 
 sounds like they might be a bit too big to fit your bike (though for the 
 record, the nice people at Thorn told me they doubted a 2.35 would fit the 
 frame even without fenders and it fits fine with them - SKS P65s). I did 
 have to order them from Germany, but the cost was not much more than a pair 
 of Big Apples when all was said and done.

 I haven't tried Kojaks but I hear great things about them - if I had to 
 limit myself to a 2.0 this would very likely be my choice. I am confused by 
 the other posters recommending Compass 2.0s - if I were convinced of their 
 existence I would find them very intriguing, but the website only shows 
 1.5 and 1.75 and my current philosophy is to run the biggest, supplest, 
 lightest tire that will fit. 

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 Berkeley, CA


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[RBW] 26 Tire Suggestions?

[stonehog]

Compass 2. Great tires that are as fast for me as jack B's or Hetres.  And 
they look great on a Miyata!
https://flic.kr/p/jdSiwd

Brian Hanson
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[RBW] Re: Wet 300k

[stonehog]

This was my 2nd 300k.  It went better than the first one, so I'm getting 
used to these rides?  I really enjoyed the company on the sections I was 
riding with others.  I also enjoy the long reflective time in the saddle. 
 I'm going to try to do a full series this year.  We'll see how it works 
out.  I need to start doing some intervals to get my times down a bit, but 
I feel like the bike is fairly dialed in for now.  I definitely want to do 
the 3 volcanoes ride!  I need to get in the mountains as I've done mostly 
rides around Seattle and Bellingham so far.

Here's a short write up on the weekend's 
brevet: http://stonehog.com/2014/04/02/bahn-mi-brevet/

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:15:59 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote:

 Brian, congrats on the finish. Was this your first 300k? I know I've said 
 this before here but I'll just repeat it. The 300k is probably my favorite 
 brevet length. Sure, it's hard, I've had my moments on 300ks, but 
 ultimately, it's just a nice long day in the saddle and depending on speed 
 and time of year, can be completed without riding at night. 

  
 As for Noodles and cloth tape--yup, that's a winning combination. I 
 recently swapped out my 48cm Noodles for 46s on my LHT and regret it. I'm 
 too lazy to re-swap them. The 48s will likely go on a bike project I'm 
 contemplating. 

 Are you going to do a full SR series? If you get a chance, look at the 
 route for SIR's 3 Volcanos 300k. That looks like a dream route. I've ridden 
 all the roads, just not in a day. 

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[RBW] Re: Wet 300k

[stonehog]

That was just before I tightened it up a bit.  It was fairly stretched 
going into the ride, and the rain didn't help.  Plenty of bolt left, 
however, and still comfy.

Brian

On Monday, March 31, 2014 3:59:48 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Great looking handlebar wrap.  So far I've been putting a layer of inner 
 tube under my cotton take for extra padding... Maybe I'll try the cotton 
 only approach next time.  8 hours of rain riding during a 300k distance 
 sounds like alot to me, congrats on finishing!  Your SAA saddle had some 
 extreme hammock action happening, is that just the result of the long hours 
 and rain or is that the broken in standard?

 Tony


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[RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad

[stonehog]

Mine are 36.6mm after a couple days of just sitting with air. The front is 
on an A23 and rear on a Synergy.  I took them out today for the first ride 
after getting the new, bigger fenders (zeppelin 52s) on last night.  I like 
the feel of the bike with these, though I've changed up the Hilsen quite a 
bit in switching from the Cypres to the Barlows.  No more front rack or 
front load of any kind.  It now feels so damn light I could do wheelies all 
day :)  

Back to the tires - I want to take them on a long ride before I give any 
kind of verdict, but they felt a bit firmer than the Hetre Extra Legers on 
my other current ride, although I'm going to chalk that up to the super 
firm Brooks Pro saddle on this (other bike is a soft S-A).  They are pumped 
at 45 rear, 35 front (I weigh about 160).  I may drop the pressure a tad - 
I'm putting the Hetres around 40 rear and 30 front for comparison.  These 
are some light tires!  They felt much lighter in the bag than my Hetres, 
and they roll just as well, if not faster.  I've had them on a half-mile of 
dirt/gravel path on the commute, and they gripped as well as any of the low 
pressure not-much-tread tires I've tried.  The real test there is to take 
them at speed down hill on gravel.  Perhaps next weekend...

Pics from today: https://flic.kr/p/mgrN2c

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA  

On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:01:06 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Measures out to 34mm right now, but that might change.

 I'm gonna go out for a ride.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[stonehog]

The MSOs work well, and look great (i might add) on the 
Hunqapillar: https://flic.kr/p/kpCU2r
I'm going to fender up the Hilsen with some Zeppelins to cover the Barlow 
Pass's tonight: https://flic.kr/p/kTv33e

I guess we should chat more, Chen!  I'll let you know how they work.  

My take on tires is that they make a HUGE difference in my enjoyment. 
 That's for me - not everyone obsesses about tires like some of us.  I like 
a supple, light tire, and don't mind the flats I occasionally get.  That 
said, I believe all flats happen on rear wheels while it's raining, and 
usually within the first 100 miles on the tires.  I once removed my newish 
Gran Bois Cypres tires after having 2 flats in one ride, and left them on 
the bench for a few months.  I then put 'em back on and rode at least 2k 
miles with no flats.  I've also gotten flats on beefy tires, and that's the 
ultimate letdown...

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
(currently experimenting with low-trail 650B)

On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:37:31 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I'm of two minds.

 I have the Barlow Pass Compass tires on the way and I'm seriously 
 considering trying out some of those 700x40C Clement MSOs I saw on Will's 
 Hillborne: I heard they come out to 38 on a 24mm rim and that's damn near 
 perfect for lil' ol' me.

 They look so Manly.


 On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 I'm thinking about getting an Xpress as a spare tire, after having 5 
 flats on 2 different Pari-Motos.  I replaced the back tire with a spare 
 after the 3rd flat, and proceeded to have two more.  

 If a rider is going to have to install the spare tire, I think there's 
 some merit in that spare being a little tougher.

 I'm also considering trying out the Compass Loup Loup Pass as a rear 
 tire, and keeping the Pari-Motos on the front, at least until my supply of 
 Pari-Motos runs out.


 On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Toshi Takeuchi 
 tto...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 I use Soma Xpress 650b on my commuter and have had two flats.  One was
 a thorn after 0.5 miles riding, and the other was a pinch flat after
 running over a large, unseen object that caused me to crash down on my
 rear wheel. For peace of mind it's good for the commuter and I don't
 care about saving time on my 30 minute (each way) commute and extra
 work means more exercise, which I need! Maybe I should be running some
 armored tank tires, just in case :).

 For brevets, the PariMoto made a huge difference in terms of perceived
 speed and comfort, and I've never flatted those, but it's probably
 just luck.

 The Hutchinsons are good, but I think there are nice wider options.
 The Soma B-line is probably an economical step up in speed as well as
 the Lierre or the new Compass offering.

 If I were going to ride 38s on brevets, then I would probably go with
 the (not-extra light) Lierre or Compass offering. Bubba promises they
 are almost as good as the Hetre :).

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Re: [RBW] Chilly Hilly and 1st Brevet

[stonehog]

Ibex makes some great wool bib shorts...

Brian

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:34:18 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:

 Where did you get wool bibs?  

 On Monday, March 10, 2014, stonehog ston...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 I use wool for the most part - three layers up top (2 light, one medium) 
 and 2 below (wool bibs and the wool long johns from Rivendell).  At the mid 
 point, I took off the outer wool jersey and put on a hardshell jacket - 
 this kept the wind down and the heat in.  Two pairs of wool gloves, and 
 wool socks tried to keep the hands and feet warm.  It worked for the hands 
 but less so on the feet - too much water splash.  

 We don't generally get too cold out here, but I grew up in MN, so I know 
 about layers :)  I would say that this ride was just uncomfortable at the 
 end of the day - no worries about hypothermia as I kept the core pretty 
 warm.  Just not a great idea to have mesh light hikers with no outer 
 covering on the shoes.  Splats would have been perfect.  A mudflap would 
 have helped, too, but the bike is too new...

 Brian Hanson
 Seattle, WA

 On Monday, March 10, 2014 4:37:53 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Awesome, Brian!

 In my experience, sustained wet and near freezing temps are as dangerous 
 as -30˚F, requiring the right gear for being out in it all day. The feet 
 are no exception. A few things that may be worth trying for you:

 -- carry baggies and add them to your feet (either next to the skin or 
 after a thin wool sock) as vapor barrier. Chances are this change alone 
 would have made your get warm and toasty.
 -- multiple wool socks, with adequate space for circulation inside your 
 footwear. In my experience there is little point to trying to keep the 
 socks and shoe dry. They are going to get wet. Have a dry pair available 
 for when you are done, at least of the socks. On multi day events, drying 
 the socks is a challenge and give up drying the footwear.

 No mention of your rainwear system, so I presume you have one you like? 
 What do you use?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Monday, March 10, 2014 1:44:11 AM UTC-6, stonehog wrote:

 The riding season is trying to get going in the NW.  There are even a 
 few flowers blooming in the rain.  I have a short write up on a couple 
 rides from the last month.  I took the Hunqapillar out on my first long 
 ride of the year (Chilly Hilly) and had a blast.  It was comfy, as usual. 
 Albastaches are good for 50+ miles - no problems...

 http://www.stonehog.com

 Brian Hanson
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[RBW] Re: Chilly Hilly and 1st Brevet

[stonehog]

I use wool for the most part - three layers up top (2 light, one medium) 
and 2 below (wool bibs and the wool long johns from Rivendell).  At the mid 
point, I took off the outer wool jersey and put on a hardshell jacket - 
this kept the wind down and the heat in.  Two pairs of wool gloves, and 
wool socks tried to keep the hands and feet warm.  It worked for the hands 
but less so on the feet - too much water splash.  

We don't generally get too cold out here, but I grew up in MN, so I know 
about layers :)  I would say that this ride was just uncomfortable at the 
end of the day - no worries about hypothermia as I kept the core pretty 
warm.  Just not a great idea to have mesh light hikers with no outer 
covering on the shoes.  Splats would have been perfect.  A mudflap would 
have helped, too, but the bike is too new...

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Monday, March 10, 2014 4:37:53 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Awesome, Brian!

 In my experience, sustained wet and near freezing temps are as dangerous 
 as -30˚F, requiring the right gear for being out in it all day. The feet 
 are no exception. A few things that may be worth trying for you:

 -- carry baggies and add them to your feet (either next to the skin or 
 after a thin wool sock) as vapor barrier. Chances are this change alone 
 would have made your get warm and toasty.
 -- multiple wool socks, with adequate space for circulation inside your 
 footwear. In my experience there is little point to trying to keep the 
 socks and shoe dry. They are going to get wet. Have a dry pair available 
 for when you are done, at least of the socks. On multi day events, drying 
 the socks is a challenge and give up drying the footwear.

 No mention of your rainwear system, so I presume you have one you like? 
 What do you use?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Monday, March 10, 2014 1:44:11 AM UTC-6, stonehog wrote:

 The riding season is trying to get going in the NW.  There are even a few 
 flowers blooming in the rain.  I have a short write up on a couple rides 
 from the last month.  I took the Hunqapillar out on my first long ride of 
 the year (Chilly Hilly) and had a blast.  It was comfy, as usual. 
 Albastaches are good for 50+ miles - no problems...

 http://www.stonehog.com

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multiple grand randonnees on a Rivendell.

[stonehog]

http://stonehog.com/2014/01/08/shoes-for-cycles/

My take on shoes - though I've only done 200s and one 300k so far.  I don't 
have the world of experience some on this list possess, like Lynne, Steve, 
Mike, Eric, and many others.  I like clipless for some situations, for 
instance, I came off flat pedals twice on one ride last year when bombing 
down a rutted jeep trail at speed - just bounced off them.  In rough stuff 
I like to be connected to my bike.  

I will try at least one 200k this year on flats.  I think it may be more 
easy on the knees on a long ride.  I have had great luck with the FiveTen 
Spitfires, but they are a bit on the beefy side when you're pushing over 
100 miles.  The Evolv Cruzers that I love for their minimalist lightness 
and comfort are too soft in the soles for more that 10-20 miles (for my 
feet).  I do like the light weight of my Sidi Spyder clipless shoes, and 
the weatherproof-ness of the Sidi GTX Diablos.  After a certain amount of 
miles, little things start adding up.

I ride the Gran Bois Cypres on my Hilsen, and use wool bib tights - 
sometimes underneath MUSA knickers.  As far as everything else goes, it's 
generally Riv standard issue wool/canvas kit. 
 http://stonehog.com/2013/08/14/300k-and-artists-point/ 

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 3:27:17 PM UTC-8, Lynne Fitz wrote:

 what Riv rando riders use for shoes/pedals/tires
 Speedplay Frogs.  Shoes - any of Pearl Izumi, Sidi Dominators, Keen 
 sandals.  Whatever I like at the time.  Need a stiff sole, but want a 
 somewhat sneaker-like fit.
 Tires - I have used Nifty Swifties, Michelin Axial Raid, Michelin 
 Megamium, Hutchinson Confriere 650B, Grand Bois Cypres and am currently 
 riding Soma Xpress.

 Just to keep up the Riv sensibility, all my rando jerseys are wool and my 
 luggage is canvas :-)

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[stonehog]

http://flic.kr/p/eCuwcY

Brian Hanson
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On Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:42:55 PM UTC-8, Conway Bennett wrote:

 Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a 
 sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm 
 the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out 
 cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr 
 hot links for inspiration?

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[RBW] Re: stem length for Albastache

[stonehog]

J - I would go short with Albastaches, as well.  They come back a bit more 
than the originals, but it's not as noticeable a difference as the width - 
maybe only a cm or two.  They are more stretched out width-wise, which 
gives more leverage, and more hand positions.  I use the 10cm Dirt Drop 
stem, and it works great.  I would use a shorter technomic, but the real 
deal is to measure where you want to be based on where you will be holding 
on most of the time, and getting the right stem for your needed fit.  I 
mostly hold on near where the bar starts the curve, but still on the swept 
back end.  Great bars, BTW - I like them better than the Albatross due to 
the ability to stretch out and have a more natural angle when I'm in the 
hooks of the bar.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:35:34 AM UTC-8, jandrews_nyc wrote:

 On the previous M-bars, if one were to use a technomic stem, it was 
 recommended to go short.  Does that still ring true for the newer version 
 of the bars?
 I think they come back a couple more inches.  If one were to use a 7 cm 
 stem on the originals, what would the recommended stem length be on the 
 Albastaches?
 thanks
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Re: [RBW] Looking for my first Rivendell

[stonehog]

Sure did.  Has worked perfectly for thousands of miles!  :)

Brian

On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 4:32:38 AM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:

 Brian,

 Did use use a bit of chain ring for your front light mount?  Neat.

 Wonderful pictures.

 Take care,

 Curtis

 On Monday, February 3, 2014, stonehog ston...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Mike - I have a 54 Hunq and a 59 AHH (similar to the Sam).  I'm 5'11 and 
 160 lbs for reference.  I would definitely heed others advice here, and 
 also say that both bikes would likely be great.  I find the two are 
 definitely different in feel, with the Hunq being stiffer, and only 
 slightly heavier.  They both feel great, and with the same wheelset are 
 very close with the difference to me just in weight and stiffness.  I like 
 a little flex and lightness, so...

 If it were me knowing what I know now, I would start with a Hillborne (or 
 AHH) as it will do 99% of what you want.  Probably 100% - they are both up 
 for touring.  I do a mix of commuting, mountain riding, and randonneuring. 
  The AHH excels at all of these, and the Hunq excels at the mountain, and 
 would be 2nd to the AHH on the other two unless you carry 20 lbs on your 
 commute.  I prefer a strong minimal bike for the application, and also 
 having a couple bikes that are set up for a specific application is a 
 luxury I choose to pay for.  

 Here are some stories and pics of both bikes with different setups if you 
 want to do some casual reading :)

 http://www.stonehog.com
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets

 Good luck, and enjoy whatever comes!  Rivs are great bikes!!

 Brian Hanson
 Seattle, WA

 On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:31:32 AM UTC-8, Mike K. wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages 
 associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should 
 finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as 
 near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for 
 (probably all psychological, but still). 

 I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any 
 touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have 
 plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking 
 forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with 
 camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip.

 Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a 
 commuter now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 
 Triple front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager 
 Commuter tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends 
 and a Nitto Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a 
 good bike, but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for 
 the camping trips.

 I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a 
 bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out 
 for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a 
 good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components 
 from the Cannondale to the new frame.

 Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with 
 these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, 
 diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd 
 be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the 
 Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around.

 Any help is much appreciated.

 Cheers,
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[RBW] Re: Looking for my first Rivendell

[stonehog]

Mike - I have a 54 Hunq and a 59 AHH (similar to the Sam).  I'm 5'11 and 
160 lbs for reference.  I would definitely heed others advice here, and 
also say that both bikes would likely be great.  I find the two are 
definitely different in feel, with the Hunq being stiffer, and only 
slightly heavier.  They both feel great, and with the same wheelset are 
very close with the difference to me just in weight and stiffness.  I like 
a little flex and lightness, so...

If it were me knowing what I know now, I would start with a Hillborne (or 
AHH) as it will do 99% of what you want.  Probably 100% - they are both up 
for touring.  I do a mix of commuting, mountain riding, and randonneuring. 
 The AHH excels at all of these, and the Hunq excels at the mountain, and 
would be 2nd to the AHH on the other two unless you carry 20 lbs on your 
commute.  I prefer a strong minimal bike for the application, and also 
having a couple bikes that are set up for a specific application is a 
luxury I choose to pay for.  

Here are some stories and pics of both bikes with different setups if you 
want to do some casual reading :)

http://www.stonehog.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets

Good luck, and enjoy whatever comes!  Rivs are great bikes!!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:31:32 AM UTC-8, Mike K. wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages 
 associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should 
 finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as 
 near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for 
 (probably all psychological, but still). 

 I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any 
 touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have 
 plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking 
 forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with 
 camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip.

 Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a commuter 
 now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 Triple 
 front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager Commuter 
 tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends and a Nitto 
 Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a good bike, 
 but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for the camping 
 trips.

 I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a 
 bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out 
 for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a 
 good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components 
 from the Cannondale to the new frame.

 Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with 
 these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, 
 diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd 
 be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the 
 Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around.

 Any help is much appreciated.

 Cheers,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for my first Rivendell

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Patrick - the Hunq is a great bike, no doubt, but I definitely feel that it 
is slightly slower for me than my AHH.  The paint makes it look fast, and 
having the thought of the Mammoth makes me feel faster.  I finally 
eyeball measured this very inaccurately on my nightly commute home over the 
past year or so.  Many times, I thought I was faster on the Hunqa, but the 
data don't lie!  It was consistently slightly slower.  Like 1-3 minutes out 
of a 55 minute ride - damn - that's HUGE!!!  ;)  It was likely the beer or 
the legs that made me thunk it was faster...

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Sunday, February 2, 2014 3:03:13 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 You've made a sale. Only problem, buyer has no cash. But next bike, if 
 next bike there be, has the Hunq on the top of the very short list.


 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Robert Barr rcb...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Patrick - I think the Hunq is very light feeling and agile. I was amazed 
 when I first pulled mine out the box, my analogy will seem odd - but it 
 looked like a strung bow. A friend that regularly rides a Quickbeam was 
 amazed by the feel and ride of the bike. I am a commuter, and I agonized 
 over whether to get an Atlantis, a Bomba, a Hunqa, or a Sam. For where I 
 ride I think the Hunqa was the best choice for me - but I don't think there 
 was a wrong choice. Variations on a theme if you will. As Deacon Patrick 
 wrote, the folks at Riv are a marvel at guiding one to a good choice. Bob 
 (Indianapolis)


 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Interesting. Is this the impression others have of the two bikes?

 The consensus seems to be that the Hunq is exceptionally light feeling 
 and agile for a bike that takes 60 mm tires.



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 javascript:wrote:

  In the past I test rode an Atlantis but the Atlantis did not feel as 
 lively and agile as the Hun

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[RBW] Re: Loop Ride

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I ride the Elliot Bay trail just about daily for my commute.  Also the Ship 
Canal trail.  It's great to trade a few extra miles for sleepy, beautiful 
trail.  Makes my ride in or home much more interesting.  

Brian

On Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:25:52 AM UTC-8, Andy Williams wrote:

 The Shilshole/Golden Gardens destination is a favorite, particularly at 
 this time of year.  I extended my loop on a drier and sunnier day to 
 include the Elliot Bay trail.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/11575863974/

 Andy

 On Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:30:21 AM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:

 I did a nice quiet 15 miler today on the Homer.  Still have the Christmas 
 lights on, though we put away the tree yesterday. I stopped at the LBS to 
 see if anything was new.  Had a good chat.  Altogether a perfect day.  Pics:

 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjPFxeBm

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[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

[stonehog]

What works for me:

   1. Grant and Co.'s business ethics.  I like that he employs 15 folks 
   honestly and tries to give back to good causes.  He tries to educate in 
   areas we all may need some help in (food/exercise), and he doesn't fit in 
   the maximize efficiency and shareholder value business model.  He runs 
   the kind of business I would be proud to have someday.
   2. Common sense stuff like don't wear race kit and clipless shoes when 
   you are not racing.  I really like the grippy VP pedals of late, and I am a 
   long-time clipless rider who enjoys the control of being locked in.  I 
   just found I don't need it when I'm commuting in.
   3. Steel, lugged goodness.  I like the feel of steel.  Always will.
   4. Pretty bikes.  Rivendell bikes just look classy compared to most 
   modern bikes.  They always draw comments.
   5. Wool.  Was already clued into this stuff, but I love wool and will 
   wear it every day at some point.
   6. Comfort.  If you love being on a bike, at some point you will want to 
   be comfortable doing it.
   7. No blinky lights.  I think they suck to ride behind, and blinking 
   front lights are beyond me.  Please use the blinkies only when you are 
   alone on a deserted country street in the middle of the night.  
   8. Helmets - I think this is the biggest deterrent to having more folks 
   on bikes.  It may be vain, but things that mess up folks hair or make them 
   feel vulnerable will keep them away.  Wear them when you need them, but 
   don't make it a law.
   9. Use what works - don't get crazy about the components.  Campy/DuraAce 
   is cool, but not critical.
   10. MUSA - I like USA-made gear.  I also like quality from other 
   countries if it's truly good.
   11. Limited selection of great, hand-picked gear.  Riv really picks some 
   great product to sell.  I generally love their taste in goods.
   12. Sackville bags.  Hands-down, the best looking and built bags I've 
   used.
   13. Basket/ShopSack.  So useful and simple!

What doesn't work for me:

   1. Heavy/big bikes.  I appreciate 'em, but would rather have a 
   Roadeo-tubed bike than a Bomba.  I like lively.
   2. Front load on mid-high-trail.  I don't like the wheel flop, but if 
   you use a wide-enough bar (Albastaches are awesome), riding with a front 
   load is not too bad.  On a narrow bar, long ride, I would prefer less work 
   to keep the bike going straight.  This is something that has taken me a few 
   years to realize I finally have a feel for.  
   3. Heavy tires.  I like 'em light, and cushy.  Jack Brown Greens are 
   the business.  GB Cypres are even better!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
www.stonehog.com

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:05:09 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:

 Thought hearing from you all would make an interesting thread.
 I have been enjoying my Sam for a long time now.
 I call these RBW ideas because that is where I first heard about them 
 (thought I know they have been around for years, just not embraced so much 
 these days). I was an alu/composite race bike kinda rider until I started 
 to fear carbon failures and wanted to look into an all metal bike.
  


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Re: [RBW] Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways

[stonehog]

It may be that I'm morphing again, and should have trusted my gut 
originally.  I really enjoyed the VO Porteur bars on my AHH after not 
liking a set of 46cm Noodles, but I've since settled on 42cm Noodles for 
that bike.  However, I have the Albastaches on my Hunqa, and really like 
the full-time upright and forward brake positions.  I am also losing my 
interest in the extreme variation the Boscos give (on my backup commuter). 
 I am currently planning on stowing those for my next foray into cruisers 
or my elderly years, and getting back to the Porteur bars that are just so 
right.  They are narrow, have at least 3 hand positions, and do at least 
100k without hand pain.  Sticking with the Noodles for the long rides, 
however (over 200k).

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:31:22 AM UTC-7, Tom Matchak wrote:

 I have spent the past couple of seasons searching for an alternative to 
 drop bars. I started with the classics (Albas and Moustache) but found 
 these to be too wide or too convoluted. After lots of experimenting, I 
 finally settled on classic Porteur bars, set up Moustache-style.

 http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/34156114@N05/9146262436/

 I am using both the Grand Bois Elysees bar and the Velo Orange Porteur 
 bar, both in the flipped orientation. I have the straight section angled 
 down about 10 deg, and the brake hoods are sloped down to provide the lever 
 location/sweep that feels natural for my hands. There are some very subtle 
 differences between these bars, and I like the curve on the VO model just a 
 tad more, but I am comfortable with either one.

 Porteur-style bars like these typically are set up with reverse brake 
 levers or MTB levers and some sort of a thumb shifter, all of which limits 
 the available hand positions. But the two models mentioned here take normal 
 road bike brake levers and bar-end shifters, leaving the bar's sweep 
 available for a range of hand positions. I also find that the forward 
 position of the brake levers feels more secure and comfortable on a 
 downhill.

 Cheers,
 Tom Matchak
 Glen, NH



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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Wasco County Country Ramble / coffee break

[stonehog]

Aaron - looks like a great ride!  So sad to have missed this one.  I was 
down that way a month ago for a camping trip, and the country surrounding 
The Dalles is gorgeous!

Brian 
Seattle, WA 

On Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:40:31 PM UTC-7, AaronY wrote:

 Hey gang,

 A group of 9 met at my place in The Dalles, Wasco County, Oregon for a 
 country ramble. The weather was a bit drizzly to begin with, but luckily 
 only threatened to rain and we had a dry, though overcast ride. Temps were 
 nice in the mid fifties.  The pack of nine endured a 50-mile loop to the 
 south and east of The Dalles with the majority of roads being gravel and 
 seemingly uphill; a few climbs had grades in the double digits. The terrain 
 in this part of OR is very hilly so each steep climb was paired with an 
 equally steep descent. 

 Highlights included:

 - a pre-lunch lunch stop across from an abandoned school house which is 
 said to have been built in 1904 and next to an old cemetery with 
 gravestones with dates from the first half of the 1800's

 - a lunch stop in the rural town of Dufur where Zach treated us with fancy 
 and tasty hot coffee

 - miles and miles of nearly car-less gravel roads surrounded by 
 picturesque farms and wheat fields

 - a post ride meal at the local taco truck in downtown The Dalles

 Lots of pics are sure to follow.

 Aaron Young
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