[RBW] Re: Custom queue

[Tim Wood]

Nice Ryan! Maybe this will ease the sting a bit - there's no PST on bikes, only 
GST. 

Tim in Vancouver 

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[RBW] Clem Smith Jr, 7 month and 2200 miles in

[Tim Wood]

Hi Zed!  Thanks for this write up, it made me appreciate my Clem more than I 
already do! If possible. This bike is such a great ride, no matter how you set 
it up. That being said I wish I shared your same experience with front end 
loads as I experience some shimmy with a Nitto big front and wald basket. I 
recently removed the rack and am currently rocking only a saddle bag and I am 
enjoying the un-weighted front end handling. After reading your review I'm 
really curious about running more supple tires as they relate to speed as I 
feel the stock kendas are holding me back. But all in all I share a lot of the 
experiences you write about, good job. 

Tim

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[RBW] Another Clementine build

[Tim Wood]

Looks awesome Tom!  Nice fender lines!

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[RBW] Bosco hand position

[Tim Wood]

+1 for the upright-bar-tt-position. I really enjoyed it on the boscos but also 
achieve it on the albatrosses. I'm like boonen, cancellara, Sagan when I drop 
it down. Well, not really but it feels fast. 

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[RBW] Re: Clem Controls

[Tim Wood]

Thanks guys. 

Kevin, I was able to use the existing shifter cables and didn't have to cut 
them, they were quite long to begin with, and switching to albas also gave me 
some length from the boscos. I got lazy with the brake cables though and was 
able to switch out the levers without even un-hooking the cables at the brake 
so I'll have to go back and shorten those up one day. 

Tim

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[RBW] Clem Controls

[Tim Wood]

Again, sorry for the upside down photos, can't seem to figure that out, check 
out this folder if you want to see better photos. Thanks. 

https://flickr.com/photos/137638381@N05/sets/72157658944869634

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[RBW] Latest Atlantis update

[Tim Wood]

Rene, I scanned through your Flickr page and must say, you have/had an awesome 
collection!  Wow.  And all the builds are very clean and classy, well done! 

Looking at the latest additions to the Atlantis, specifically the front campee 
rack, did you try and line up the lower mounting tang with the rear braze on 
shared with the fender?  It appears it would bring the rack in closer to the 
rider as well as lower it a bit. Maybe there isn't clearance around the skewer 
head.  Not critiquing, just wondering if it would work as I have always been 
interested in that rack. 

Nice job!

Tim

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[RBW] Clementine / Cheviot comparison and random questions

[Tim Wood]

Hey Bob,

I can't comment on the Mixte comparison but I can on the fit of the 59 Clem. I 
have a PBH of 90cm and my saddle height is usually around 78.5 and I love the 
fit. I was a little leery of the top tube length and the stand over but I am 
very happy with the fit and a 52 would have been ill fitting. With regard to 
stand over, riding in my blundstones, which have a reasonably thick sole, I 
have at least an inch, maybe 2 before I touch bone. Baggy pants may rest on 
there but not man parts, stand over hasn't been an issue, even off road. 

I have put my Clem on the skytrain/light rail system in Vancouver and while it 
fits, it's a bit akward and takes up a lot of space. The wheelbase is long. 
I haven't tested it in bike racks yet. 

Let me know if you need any measurements. 

Tim

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[RBW] looking for a Nitto 34f front rack, or reassurance, or advice or something

[Tim Wood]

I show Ben's to have 2 in stock. $209. I am running one and am liking the form 
and function. 

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose, Ortlieb Panniers and Handlebar Bag

[Tim Wood]

Bars are sold. 

Bags still available. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose, Ortlieb Panniers and Handlebar Bag

[Tim Wood]

Hey Tom. Someone replied before you, if for some reason the deal falls through 
I'll contact you first. 

Thanks,

Tim

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> On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:21 AM, Palmer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> I would like the Bosco Bullmoose bars, but cannot get the reply to author to 
> work for me.
> My email is volvotom1964 at gmail.com if available.
> Thanks,
> Tom Palmer 
> Twin Lake, MI
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose, Ortlieb Panniers and Handlebar Bag

[Tim Wood]

*price adjust*

I guess I over priced the boscos, they are the tig welded version and not the 
brazed. How does $75 shipped sound? They'll require a largish box so I'm sure 
it won't be cheap to ship. 

Thanks. 

Tim

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose, Ortlieb Panniers and Handlebar Bag

[Tim Wood]

Hey friends, 

A few quality bike goods up for your viewing and shopping pleasure:

1) Nitto Bosco Bullmoose, 58cm wide. These came off my Clem a month ago. They 
have a couple hundred easy Km's on them, essentially brand new.  The only 
visible blemishes are where the grips live, a couple superficial scratches that 
occurred during the removal of the grips. 
-$125 shipped

2) Ortlieb Ultimate 5 handlebar bag, medium, black, with mounting bracket. Very 
good shape, no rips, tares, stains, just superficial ware. It's probably seen 
about 4 weeks of touring. I can't find the shoulder strap or the keys.
-$50 shipped

3) Ortlieb Back Roller Classic Pannier set (2), in black. These are the larger 
ones: Height = 16.5 inches.  Width = 12.6 inches.  Depth = 6.7 inches.  Volume 
= 2441 cubic inches/pair (40 Liters).  Weight = 67.1 ounces/pair.  In very good 
shape, some rub marks but no rips, tares, holes or funky smells or stains. They 
have probably seen 6 weeks of use in their life. 
-$110 shipped

Photos are here:  https://flickr.com/photos/137638381@N05/sets/72157662625860953

Thanks for looking. 

Tim

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[RBW] Re: Sorta FS post: Bags in Martexin Ranger Tan fabric.

[Tim Wood]

Hey David, do you ever make shopsack-style bags to fit wald baskets? A ranger 
tan shopsack for my 137 would be sweet. Let me know if this is even possible 
and how much one would be. Thanks.

Tim

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Thanks for confirming the shimanos fit on the sunrace bodies, Dave. I received 
my ultegra bar ends but haven't installed them yet. I'm planning on trying bar 
end first but am just waiting on some grip materials to arrive. If the bar ends 
don't work out It looks like i could also mount the shimanos in thumbie/indexed 
mode with the shifters mounted on the outside of the bar. I think I'd like this 
better than on top. 

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Thanks Keith, she's doing okay but I can tell it's starting to wear on her. 2.5 
weeks to go and the cast is off!  

Sorry to rub that weather in, I use to hate when west coast people did that to 
me when I lived in the colder climates! I hope you guys dig out soon and you 
are rocking that Clem on some sweet trails!

I'm not in a position to comment on your rear derailer theory, I'll leave that 
to the resident experts. 

Cute dog El Sapo! I've taken my lab on some Clem rides and now every time I 
head for the garage with my helmet he tries to follow along! 

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[RBW] Pondering fatherhood

[Tim Wood]

Hey hey! Congrats Jim! A lot of good fatherly advice in this thread, but I'm 
here to say that bikes and beer will be the key to survival! - not that I'm 
condoning drinking to cope, I am a police officer after all! But I find that 
getting away on my bike and having a beer is some of the best 
dad-coping-strategy I can think of. Helps one reflect, take stock on life, and 
when you come back home you are happy, calm, and ready to be the best dad you 
can be. So my advice, don't stop taking time for yourself and make sure it 
includes bikes and pitchers!

Cheers,

Tim

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[RBW] My Darling Clementine: A Saga

[Tim Wood]

Nice write up Mark! And the clementine looks awesome, stately was a good 
adjective describing the ride and the looks. It's fun getting to know a new 
bike and sometimes it takes a bit of time to learn and work out the quirks but 
in the end I'm sure your Clem will be just as fabulous as the le tour!  The 
more I ride mine the more I feel at home on it. 

On a fender note, to my eye the rear could be sucked in a bit and that would 
give a bit more stay length.  Those aluminium Cascadias are nice btw, I should 
have got those over the plastic ones. 

And you're right, The sprung saddle really does suit the bike. 

Nice work! 

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[RBW] Re: My CLEM finally built

[Tim Wood]

Looks sweet Joe. How do you like the ride? 

Tim

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[RBW] "My first Roadeo" and chainline/BB question

[Tim Wood]

Wow! Congrats on the new bike Tim, it's beautiful. Definitely my favourite Riv 
color combo. The more I look at roadeos the more I want to sell my 15lb carbon 
race bike and buy one - and since I got my Clem it just hangs in the garage 
collecting dust anyway.  I had my heart set on a boulder all road or an ocean 
air rambler 650 rig for my "go fast" but hearing that the roadeo fits 38s has 
peaked my interest. Your fit and saddle height look bang on there, what is your 
pbh?

Tim

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Bill, I think you're bang on with your analysis and description, thanks for 
breaking it down and examining/explaining the shifter. 

I'm not upset at Riv for sourcing this part, its just less then ideal and the 
nuances of the shifter in this application make it difficult to live with. This 
is which why I ponied up for some ultegra bar ends. It's good to hear the sun 
race bodies will house the barcon so further options there. 

Now this may offend some, and call me new school, but I don't really understand 
the benefit of friction shifting in the rear. What is the point of being able 
to trim the rear derailer? it's either in line or not in line and when it's not 
in line it runs like crap.  I know it's all personal preference and no one way 
is the right way, but I'll take a well tuned index system any day. I don't want 
to have to think about or customize rear derailer alignment. Front shifting on 
the other hand I love having the ability to smoothly move the derailer along 
its plane to prevent chain rub. 

Cheers everyone!  

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

I'd be willing to sell the shifters Bill if you are serious. But I want to make 
sure I like the bar ends first and there is no chance that I would want to 
dismantle the sunrace shifters and turn them in to thumbie bodies - if that is 
even possible. 

Deacon Patrick, that's funny I was looking for your front shifter in those 
photos as it was glaringly missing from the bars. I assumed it was just hiding 
behind the fender shield on the dt. 

So, I'm curious Bill and Kai, what do like about these shifters that makes you 
want to hoard them?  Is there something I'm missing or is there a way I can set 
them up to improve their performance? 

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Sweet mixte!  You have quite the harem of cool city/utility/fun bikes Mark!  

Ya, I know what you mean with the front shifter, either I'm bumping it or maybe 
it is rattling out of position as I'm always giving it a couple clicks to stop 
chain rub. I was thinking it was a cable tension issue but I think you're on to 
something with the vibration theory. The bottom line is that these shifters 
weren't meant for this type of application, they are an internal gear hub 
shifter which I'm not going to pretend I know a lot about but I know that they 
work on very different shifting principles. 

Do you guys think if we canvassed the group and band together that Riv would 
help correct the issue and maybe offer a discount or credit toward some 
different shifters?  Probably a long shot. Based on the description they seem 
to love these things and they aren't going away cuz they're on basically every 
ready to ride. 

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Well, I bit the bullet and bought some ultegra 8 speed bar end shifters. Gonna 
run the rear indexed I think.  

And heads up, I got them for a great price from chain reaction cycles, $70 
Canadian, which is like what, $10 US? Haha just kidding, but a good deal. Threw 
some $30 all silver deore brake levers in the basket too and got free shipping  
from the UK. I've ordered from CRC before and they are good. 

I've never run bar ends so I am curious to see how I like them. I've had 
brifters, down tube, thumbies, trigger and grip shift so it's time. I was a 
little concerned with the shifters bumping my legs in turns but with the 
shorter then bosco Albas and the longish stem I have lots of room.  I was also 
wondering if I could dismantle the sunraces and use the bar mount with the 
ultegras, as a cheap Paul thumbie??

For grips I'm either going to slice a channel in the cheapo Clem grips or go 
with the felt padding/ newbaum set up. Slicing the grips may be tricky as there 
are thick finger grooves along the bottom. I decided to switch out the brake 
levers too because they are all silver, will probably have better performance 
over the tektros and I don't like how the fastening bolt on the tektros is 
right on top, it's often digging in to my hand. 

Both pieces of kit come with cables and housing too so I'm pretty happy with 
the deal. Yay, new bike parts!  I should be done spending now Oh but wheels 
and tires.hmmm. 

Tim "maybe I should have bought the frame only Clem" Wood

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

I thought that too Joe when I first saw them but shifting them is comfortable 
enough. I push and pull with me thumb and sometimes on the rear shifter I use 
my index finger from under the bar to push it up. 

The real issue is this shifting, it's starting to drive me nuts. Last night I 
went on a 2 hour spin through some local greenway paths and ended up finding 
some nice undulating forest trails that followed a little creek. The bike 
handled the swooping turns and uneven surfaces amazingly, it was so fun.  But, 
at one point I was descending and I could see a steep ramp approaching and knew 
I'd need to be in the small chainring (I was mid or higher up the cassette).  
Without even touching the rear shifter, only dropping down in the front, it 
started skipping and clunking and I couldn't get it back again and had to 
dismount part way up the climb. Annoying. 

I started thinking about it and wondered if the long chain stays played a roll 
in this scenario?  It's likely the rear shifter is to blame, it was probably 
one click away from being perfectly in line with the gear and when the chain 
went to the front ring, the new angle of the chain was enough to cause an 
alignment issue in the rear. But would the long stays and associated chain also 
contribute to this? Would the extra length exaggerate the angles?  Does the 
extra long chain affect shifting performance?  

All bitching and hypothesizing aside, it's not gonna stop me from riding again 
tonight! And neither is this relentless west coast rain. Once these kiddlings 
are in bed I'll be out there!

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Ya I will!! But now my wife is talking about a date night. Doesn't she know 
there is another woman in my life? Her name is Clem, she was conceived in 
California, born in Taiwan and has bolt ons from Japan. She's a little stout 
but I like 'em that way!

Care home eh Joe? That's a tough job, my wife does it. It takes a special 
person, good job. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Sorry Steve, I re-read that and it does need clarification: When I shifted to 
the small chainring up front, the rear derailer started skipping, clunking and 
became misaligned. 

Good point about the chain length not being a factor and the tandem example. 

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Love the big dummy! Hey Mark, have you tried hooking up the burley trailer yet? 
Because of the shape of the Clem rear dropouts I wasn't able to install my 
chariot trailer receiver. I guess we'll be needing this part to make it happen 
https://burley.com/product/hitch-adapter/.  However I read a few reviews on 
Amazon that said the adapter caused excess stress on the quick release and bent 
them.  There's also the classic hitch option but not super keen on clamping 
that thing on my frame. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

I think you're on to something Steve. Although, the first time I noticed the 
wobble it I was on the aforementioned descent and I merely sat up to take off 
my gloves and was coasting, not pedalling, when the shimmy initiated. But your 
explanation seems more plausible than mine which is the saddle angle adjustment 
lead to a wobble-free distribution of weight. 

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

I made an interesting observation on last nights ride regarding front end 
wobble.  Prior to the ride I was looking at a couple photos of my Clem and 
thought the saddle was tilted a little high, and on my last ride at times I 
felt a little pressure. So I tilted it more level and no more wobble. Is this 
even possible? I even went as far as riding to the same descending section of 
bike path where I first noticed the wobble to replicate the speed and 
conditions and it didn't happen. Could shifting my weight ever so slightly 
cause the correction?  I made no other changes to the bike prior to this ride, 
not even tire pressure. Wait, not totally true, I also adjusted the angle of 
the left brake lever because it felt a little more outward then the right. 

Maybe it's neither of these, maybe my body is now accustomed to the new 
handling characteristics with the front rack on now that I've done a few rides 
with it. Either way I'll take it, and my butt and position on the bike felt way 
better and balanced with the saddle tweak. 

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Glad I'm not the only one El Sapo. And I think I've read others gripping about 
them on this group. With the complete Joe's and Sam's also coming equipped I'm 
sure there will be more people complaining and switching out shifters.  

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Thanks for the kinds words Wayne. Isn't riding bikes the best form of therapy? 
It always helps me through the tough times. 

My girl is such a trooper, and to top it off while at the hospital they did 
blood work and she was diagnosed with celiac disease. Jeez. So the whole family 
is going gluten free - but I have to make an exception when it comes to beer!

You should try the albas, It greatly improved my enjoyment of the bike. I often 
find myself going out to the garage to just stare at it now. Is that weird? I'm 
sure I'm not alone there. 

That being said I hope not too many Clemers make the swap, I don't want the 
market to be flooded with boscos as I plan to list mine soon! Ha. 

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Hey RDS. I'm really not loving the shifters. I'll preface that with the fact 
that I come from a road background and have only ever ridden indexed rear 
shifting.  I had my front der, down tube shifter on my LHT set up in friction 
for custom trimming, but never the rear. So on the Clem maybe I'm an 
inexperienced friction shifter but I often experience mis shifts, especially 
under load. You know when you "down shift" (easier gear) at the base of a climb 
and then part way up you realize you need to go easier, it's tricky to finesse 
the der to the next gear. The shifter clicks, the chain clunks and skips, you 
give it another click and it can't find the chainline, you move the shifter 
back up and then it goes back in to the gear that was too hard, and then you 
loose your momentum, then you slow down and then you start to swear. This 
doesn't happen when up shifting and it must have to do with those clicks. The 
shifters only click when down shifting. My next upgrade should be bar end 
shifters with the rear set indexed. I don't want to pay attention to rear 
derailer alignment I just want to flick it and go. Front I like to trim as 
mentioned. It would also be nice to free up some bar space but bar ends would 
require getting cork grips and I hope I like them as much as the cheap rubber 
Clem ones cuz those are awesome ! Seriously.

The tires are the stock ones that come on the complete build and are Kenda 
kwick 29x2.0. I don't have calipers but by my eye and a tape measure they seem 
to measure a bit over 50mm. The fenders are planet bike cascadia 29ers. They 
claim max tire size of 29x2.3 which I could see as I have a bit of wiggle room. 
If you're debating which fenders to get and want to see different options on 
the bike, check out this folder because I tried three different ones before 
settling on the Cascadias.   
https://flickr.com/photos/137638381@N05/sets/72157660720878839

I don't mind the look of them and they have good coverage. I just picked up 
some nomad resist 700x45 tires and probably won't go bigger than 50 and 
wouldn't mind trying some velo orange 60mm fender of some style, to class it up 
a bit. 

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[RBW] My CLEM finally built

[Tim Wood]

Congrats Joe enjoy the new bike! 

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Thanks Bob! One thing I'll say about the Bosco is that they have a lot more 
useable grip options and It was nice to rotate through them on longer rides.  
On the albas I'm mainly on the grips, maybe a bit in front of them and I found 
a nice tt position with my forearms resting on the bars. 

Regardless, It's nice to have bar options in the garage to be able to complete 
compulsive late night handlebar swaps! 

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[RBW] Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Thanks Shoji and Ben. 

I never got use to looking down at the bullmoose, but boscos on a traditional 
stem is a good look. And I agree, being able to adjust the angle is nice. That 
being said,  Riv did a good job on the angle of the bosco bars for me. 

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Thanks Zed, maybe I'll play around with the tire pressure.  Like I said it only 
happens no handed and at very specific speeds, I'd estimate around 30-40km/hr, 
so it's a pretty rare scenario and it's easy to correct. 

Nice decal design btw!

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[RBW] Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Sorry about the upside down images, drafted with iPad and can't figure out how 
to edit them. Here's a flicker link if they are too annoying. 

https://flickr.com/photos/137638381@N05/sets/72157658944869634

Tim

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[RBW] FS: End of the year clean out.

[Tim Wood]

PM sent re: nitto stem and barcons. I can never tell if my message was sent 
with this iPhone/Google Group interface. 

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[RBW] Mounting a Large Front Basket

[Tim Wood]

I have a Nitto big front rack for my wald. I choose that one so I can run the 
basket in conjunction with panniers. 

Coincidentally, bens cycle is having an awesome sale on Nitto right now and 
with the newyear2016 discount code a big rack comes to $150 with free shipping! 
That a $60 savings. - but there's only one left! 

I picked up an albatross bar for like $40. And a pair of nomad resist 700x45 
for $35. Great sale. 

Tim

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[RBW] Re: What stem?

[Tim Wood]

Hey Keith, thanks for posting those pics. Btw, Looks like a nice piece of 
property you got there - enjoyed the view!!!  Much whiter then over here!

i think I've figured out that a 1 to 2cm stem deduction from the boscos will 
give me the position I am after. I always feel like the boscos come too far in 
to me, especially while sharp turning. I am also constantly grabbing ahead of 
the break lever so I can stand to loose some reach from the bar end. 

I did a nice 40k ride 2 days ago, completely in the the rain/sleet/snow and had 
a 12km stretch of riverside flats with a headwind. I was grabbing the Bosco at 
the front, ahead of the bull horns(?) and it was quite helpful in staying out 
of the wind.  I can see a similar position on the albas, in the "humps" but 
they appear to be 2 or more cm ahead of where the Bosco front is.  A 1 cm 
reduction for me will make that area useable. 

Have you tried flipping the albas to get lower?  

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[RBW] What stem?

[Tim Wood]

Thanks everyone for the input. I sent a PM to Keith requesting comparison 
photos of the albas and Boscos on the Clem but maybe others would want to see 
them, Keith up to you if you want to post them here. 

A lot of my desire to do a bar switch is fit related, but some of it has to do 
with aesthetics as I don't love the bull moose. I like the look of a level 
quill stem versus the positive angle and triangular set up of the bull moose. 

I think a tallux stem with an Alba bar would give me the drop and lean I am 
looking for, taking in to account the -40mm difference between bars only, and 
the further difference between the stem angle of the two styles. 

I never really considered the width of the Alba to be a deal breaker, or 
concern, and this is the first time I'm hearing about that being an issue. All 
other reviews and comments I read about the bars is that people love them and 
often never look back once installed. The width of the boscos is pretty extreme 
and I can't see wanting to go any wider. As it stands you have to be pretty 
focused riding through traffic and on narrow bridge decks or passing others on 
paths. I would be happy  with a reduction in width. 

Sounds like I've made my decision! Sometimes writing out your thoughts is all 
you need to do. Thanks for being the sounding board!  

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Tallux Stem

[Tim Wood]

Oh. And has to be 25.4. Not in to shimming. 

Thanks again. 

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Tallux Stem

[Tim Wood]

"Habitual cockpit modifications require crafty part acquisition" - Said me, 
today. 

I've secured a new albatross bar to replace the Bosco on my Clem and now I need 
a stem. I had a shopping basket all ready to go on riv with a stem and a couple 
other goodies but I'd thought I'd check with my fellow 
part-hoarding-cockpit-modifiers to see what's out there. 

What I need:

-Nitto stem, 110 or 120, preferably tallux, but it has to be the brushed, dull 
brite finish, not shiny Chrome.  

Thanks,

Tim


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[RBW] What stem?

[Tim Wood]

In the next couple days I'm putting an order in for some Alba bars and tallux 
stem for my Clem. My 59cm Clem has the stock bosco bull moose and I'm looking 
for group input on what length stem to buy. 

As we know the bosco bullmoose has a 12cm extension and I'm just wondering how 
that should translate to an Alba conversion. It seems the Alba extends past the 
clamp area at the "humps", in effect, increasing the reach in the forward grip. 
This leads me to think I should go for a shorter stem, say 11cm. 

I like the current fit and reach on my Clem and if anything I wouldn't mind a 
more aggressive position - less rise, more lean, shorter grip. 

Does anyone have any personal experience in switching between bosco and 
albatross and what conclusions were drawn? 

Thanks for your time and input. 

Tim 
Vancouver, BC

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[RBW] So how lively is the Clem?

[Tim Wood]

I've been pleasantly surprised with its liveliness. I expected it to ride like 
a tank but when I climb out of the saddle I don't feel like I'm losing 
momentum, slowing down or fighting with the bike.  I think it would benefit 
from nicer tires, I'm running the stock kendas.  It's not the quickest 
accelerator from a dead stop but if you are already trucking along and need to 
accelerate, to beat a traffic light for example, it gets up and goes. 

My points of reference are carbon and steel road bikes and also a surly LHT. 
Compared to the surly I enjoy the Clem's ride a lot more. I think the surly was 
a little quicker To get up to speed but I always found that when climbing out 
of the saddle on the surly it fell stiff and the opposite of lively. I don't 
get that on the Clem. Not sure if it's tubing related or geometry?

Tim
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[RBW] What's Your Experience with the Soma SUPPLE VITESSE SL 700C CLINCHER TIRE?

[Tim Wood]

Me too! I'm going to pull the trigger on the 42s this spring. Not really a 
review but here are some random Instagram comments on them.  

https://instagram.com/p/-OwY4up45o/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Tim Wood]

Ya I think you're right about the illusion. However, I think most 55cm joe 
riders would also ride a 52 Clem, and the 52 Clem has a 61cm tt which I think 
compensates well for swept back bars. Maybe the joe will be more versatile in 
the bar selection dept. meaning it would be suitable to run uprights or drops. 

When I found out prior to delivery that my 59 Clem had a 64cm tt I was 
concerned as all my other bikes are all around 57-59, however it feels great. I 
am loving the extra room, and while drop bars are probably out of the question, 
I wouldn't want the top tube or reach to be any less.  In fact I am probably 
going to swap out the boscos for albas as sometimes I feel the bars are too 
close. 

Cheers.. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Tim Wood]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, here or in other posts, but there are 
some nice photos of the choco bar in staff bikes on grants cheviot. Not sure 
how long they've been up, I pop by the staff bikes area for accessory 
inspiration once in a while and just noticed. Kinda looks like a Bosco with 
less rise.  I agree, the built up appa looks a little proportionally wacky, but 
then again so does my Clem and I love it. But the 55 joe looks a little cramped 
in the top tube/reach department. 

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[RBW] New to me Rambouillet, with photos

[Tim Wood]

Is that the medium minnehaha saddle bag? I just ordered one during VO's 20% off 
sale (ends tonight I think). Bike looks great btw. Chris king, dura ace, and 
gum walls, the finer things in life! 

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[RBW] My First Date With Clementine

[Tim Wood]

Nice!! Congrats mark, looks great. I like the alx fenders, less shiny then the 
plastic ones. Enjoy getting to know her!

Tim

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[RBW] Clem with drop bars?!?

[Tim Wood]

Do it! And take pictures. I did a nice 50km ride on my Clem a couple days ago 
and was amazingly comfortable. While riding I was imagining where the hoods 
would be on a drop set up and I think it would be doable for me. The boscos on 
the other hand offer so many grip options that I'm not sure the change would be 
an upgrade, just a change.  The one thing that drops would add is more grip 
control while descending and braking. I hit 70km/hr on the ride and it felt a 
little unnerving holding the bosco at the brakes. 

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Big Front Rack (34f)

[Tim Wood]

I found one! Thanks everyone. 

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[RBW] Thank you!

[Tim Wood]

Happy American thanksgiving from a Canadian!  I don't normally "do" forums, 
mainly because of all the bashing from Internet no-it-alls who apparently live 
to belittle people's comments - do you even ride bros? - but this group is a 
wealth of knowledge and inspiration. So, thanks for keeping it real. 

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[RBW] Big Ol' Clem.

[Tim Wood]

Looks good my large Clem riding brother! Love mine too. Yours makes me want to 
swap out the boscos for some Albas.  However the more I ride the boscos the 
more I appreciate them. I just prefer the look of the albatross and quill stem. 
Happy riding!

Tim

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Big Front Rack (34f)

[Tim Wood]

Anyone?  PM me if you have one you want to unload. 

Tim

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith fenders?

[Tim Wood]

On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 8:53:11 PM UTC-8, Tim Wood wrote:
> So I installed the black Cascadias and I'm pretty happy with how they turned 
> out. They went on smooth, fender line is dialed, the coverage is great and I 
> don't mind the look. 
> 
> Tim

Damn iOS. Always flipping my damn pictures. 

https://flic.kr/p/AKfzVz

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[RBW] FT: Curious About The Bosco?

[Tim Wood]

Hey ant ritchey, thanks for the offer. I did a bit of research on both bars and 
I think I'm going to hold out for an Alba. Also hoping for a tallux but the 
deluxe may work. Thanks again. 

Tim

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith fenders?

[Tim Wood]

Ha! Yup, my yellow lab is crazy for that thing! And in looking at the photos 
again I should have maybe picked a less busy back drop, but they were in haste. 

Anyway, that's a generous offer, no pressure tho if you want to go through with 
your order. I'll PM you later this weekend and we can talk details. 

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[RBW] FT: Curious About The Bosco?

[Tim Wood]

I had received a potential trade this morning but then the message was deleted 
before I could reply? Cold feet or technical error? Either way the trade offer 
still stands and if the person from this am is waiting to hear from me send the 
message again. 

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith fenders?

[Tim Wood]

Hey Keith, you and I seem to enjoy fretting over bike details together!  I was 
laughing at myself as I literally have 3 sets of brand new fenders for my Clem 
and I can't make a decision. Every time I rule one out I look at a picture or 
throw them back on and change my mind. Oh the curse of indecision. 

So I took some quick photos of the fender selections on the bike. They aren't 
great but hopefully they give you an idea of what will work. I actually already 
had the B65's packaged up to be returned but I opened the box again for the 
shots and they aren't as bad as I remember. I'm fairly certain I'll end up 
ruling them out so if you, or anyone else wants them I'll sell them for $55 and 
I'll eat the shipping in conus. 

Here's the photos:  
https://flickr.com/photos/137638381@N05/sets/72157660720878839

Tim 

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[RBW] Clem Smith fenders?

[Tim Wood]

Mark, the pinstripes on the 65's are actually clear or see through. I don't 
think there are any reflective qualities. The traditional Sks stripe pattern, 
as you described it and is on the 55's, I don't mind. I thought about spray 
painting the 65s but not sure how they'd turn out.  Those aluminum PB's look 
sweet too, and if they are less shiney then the poly then that would be a 
positive. I also considered some VO aluminums but plastic seems to suit the 
Clem concept. 

The p55s, when you raise them off the tire and in the "install position" do 
seem to offer just enough coverage for the 2.0s. They wouldn't rub but as Zed 
mentioned above there may be some side spray?  I put the 55s and the 65s side 
by side and with the mudflats the 55s are a little longer. 

The current stock Kenda tires need to go, they are heavy, loud and slow. So I 
think the plan for now is: run the kendas through the winter with the black 
Planet Bike Cascadias (they were only $35 Canadian so what's that? Like $2 USD? 
 So sad right now) Keep the Sks p55s for the summer tires which will be the 
soma supple vitesse 42c. I think the gum wall and the silver fenders will be 
nice. Depending on the durability and longevity of that tire I'll probably 
switch to a schwalbe 50c for the following winter and for touring and extended 
gravel. Riv site says the 50 big bens measure at 45 so should be good to go. 

So, the B65s are for sale. I'll probably start a FS post if no one offers in 
the next couple days. 

Thanks for the feedback. 

Tim Wood
Vancouver Canada

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[RBW] FT: Curious About The Bosco?

[Tim Wood]

I propose a trade: My barely used Bosco bullmoose off of my new Clem for your 
albatross bars and Nitto stem. Based on riv pricing it seems like a good 
straight across trade. 

The boscos are sweet, stylish and comfy, but my 59cm Clem is big - in a good 
way - and I just don't need the extra rise that the boscos offer. 

Any takers?  Lemme know. 

If I can't find a willing participant I my be interested in buying an albatross 
if you have one laying around. 

Tim


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[RBW] FS/FT: Tubus Tara Lowrider Front Rack

[Tim Wood]

Rack is sold. Thanks. 

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[RBW] Clem Smith fenders?

[Tim Wood]

I'm having fender dilemmas, mainly because I'm picky when it comes to fender 
appearance. The first set I tried was the B65 in silver (my Clem is 700c), and 
while they fit well over the stock 29x2.0, they looked awful, and huge.  Maybe 
the long stays expose the rear tire more but the fenders seemed to dominate the 
appearance. Also, the new SKS's have pin stripping down the centre and I just 
wasn't digging it, it could have also been the silver wasn't playing well with 
the grey paint. For some reason I then tried the silver p55's, and while they 
are marketed as a 26" fender, riv recommends them for 29" up to a 2.0. They 
were barely wide enough to cover the tread and being a 26, longboard or not, 
they were just too short. And again, the pinstriping. I was willing to settle 
on the p55 as I have plans to try out the new soma 42c gumwall and thought it 
was a good fit, but they just weren't looking right. Both of those sets are 
going back and I'm going to try some black planet bike cascadia 29ers.  Hoping 
they look decent and are full coverage. Sigh.

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[RBW] Old Riv, thin wool hats that came in blue, green, red, etc...

[Tim Wood]

I rock one of these and love it:

http://arcteryx.com/product.aspx?language=EN=Accessories=Toques_and_Beanies=Rho-LTW-Beanie

It pulls down low on my head, below the bottom of my ears, and is thin enough 
to wear under a helmet. 

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT: Tubus Tara Lowrider Front Rack

[Tim Wood]

PM sent Ryan, no worries. 

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[RBW] FS/FT: Tubus Tara Lowrider Front Rack

[Tim Wood]

Hey everyone,

I have a Tubus Tara, black, that I no longer need and wondering if there is any 
interest in the group. It's in good shape with only minor scuffing where the 
panniers attach. It's seen minimal use, maybe a total of 4 weeks of touring. 
$75 USD shipped to lower 48 and Canada. 

I would also entertain a trade for either a Nitto mini front rack, a silver 
surly front rack, or a Nitto big front rack (34f) and cash. Let me know if you 
are interested and I can send some photos. 

Tim

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[RBW] What length Silver Cranks came on your Clem?

[Tim Wood]

My 59cm Clem came with a 178 crank arm length, which got me thinking about how 
that relates to saddle height and bb clearance etc. I've always run 175's but 
is 3mm something to concern myself with? Probably not. 

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[Tim Wood]

Hey Mark,

With regard to the stock saddle, I only rode around a parking lot for like two 
minutes on it and put my brooks on before my longer rides so I can't really 
comment too much. It felt pretty good tho, it's a flat saddle and is wider then 
my b17, it almost resembles the shape of a b67. 

The riding position is upright but you can still achieve some lean in your 
back, I think it feels tall more than upright if that makes sense. That being 
said, and as Zed alluded to, the boscos allow for multiple hand positions which 
allow you to get lower and more aggressive if the situation calls for it. I 
found when I was climbing I grabbed near the "stem" on the flat, front area and 
that got me in a pretty aggressive position. While descending or powering the 
flats, I found it comfortable to rest my forearms on the high tops, on top of 
the brake/shifter lever area, and grab just fore of them. In that position I 
would say my back was flat and almost parallel to the top tube. But it sure was 
nice after riding hard in these positions to sit up and grab the grips and not 
feel stretched out or strained. It's the best of both worlds.  I even did some 
out of the saddle efforts and once I got the cadence and weight of the bike 
figured out it was a nice climbing position. That being said, running bar end 
shifters on these bars may be difficult as you'd be bumping them with you legs 
and or body. 

The bike is like a locomotive, once it's up to speed it just rolls along, 
soaking up the bumps beautifully. I literally smile every time I'm on it. It's 
raining here in Vancouver and my fenders haven't arrived yet but I think 
another night ride is in the cards. Can't stop thinking about my Clem - thanks 
Riv!!

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[Tim Wood]

Looks good Zed, nice build. I'm curious to see how the front surly rack looks 
on there, keep the photos coming!

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[RBW] Re: Racks for the Clem

[Tim Wood]

I just realized that my Tubus Tara won't work on the Clem without installing 
mid fork clamps. 

Does anyone know how the surly front rack would line up with the higher fork 
braze ons on the Clem?  What about the mid fork struts on the new soma porteur 
deluxe?  Maybe I'll have to pony up for the nitto campee with the removable low 
riders. I want to be able to run a basket and panniers up front.  

Why does rivendell have to be different and mount their braze ons higher that 
the majority of manufactures? 

And what about the braze ons on top of the fork crown? Is there a rack that 
attaches there? I think I remember seeing a rando rack that did. Cycles 
Touissant out of Calgary maybe? 

So many questions. 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Tim Wood]

Thanks Bob!  Lemme know when they are up and a link to your Flickr account. 
Cheers. 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Tim Wood]

Look at that grey!! Can't wait. I'm sure I'm biased but the 59 Clem's look 
proportionately just right. Do you have any more Clem photos from your visit?

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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa geometry

[Tim Wood]

Any Clem buyers regretting their decision? I'm waiting for my 59 Clem but the 
58 Joe seems appealing. A lot of the same positive features (long chain stays, 
tire clearance, high bars, load carrying capacity), but it seems the joe could 
be set up as a drop bar fast tourer. I feel like the Clem geometries prevent it 
from being a go fast or drop bar bike, but that being said I haven't even 
ridden it yet. The joe is obviously in a different price bracket and I don't 
see the purpose of owning both one day due to their similarities. I'm just 
going to love my Clem and have fun riding it, that hasn't changed.

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[RBW] Racks for the Clem

[Tim Wood]

As the shipping date for my Clem draws nearer I am at an impasse with regard to 
accessories. I'm pretty sure the Sks B65 fenders are the way to go, and a front 
mounted wald basket is mandatory, but racks are still a question mark. I have a 
Tubus Tara front low rider laying around but it's black and I want to stick to 
a silver theme. Right now the front rack choices I'm tossing around are:

-surly nice rack (can mount the basket and tons o'pannier)
-soma porteur deluxe (as above)
-a combination of the Tubus Tara for panniers and a Nitto m18/mark's rack for 
the basket
-the $30 soma front rack would get me rolling with a basket with less output 
but I question its strength. My basket needs to be able to tote at least 12 
cans of beer

For the rear I like the daija works or an axiom journey, or even a matching 
surly nice if I went that route on the front.  I also like the look of the 
sackville med bag so maybe I don't really need a spendy rear rack.

What should I do?  My rational side says wait till the bike gets here and feel 
it out, but part of me wants it ready to roll when it arrives. Bottom line, I 
should be riding more and searching the internet less

Advice is welcomed. 

-Tim

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Tim Wood]

Let's see some more pics!!! Are they emailing everyone prioir to shipping?

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[RBW] WTT: 59 Clem, Blue for Grey

[Tim Wood]

Keith, are you basing your dislike solely off of El Sapo's photo on the other 
thread? Maybe the lighting is off or something and it will look different in 
person. 

Tim

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Tim Wood]

I really like that blue!  The crank looks good do. And the vp pedals, are those 
stock? So excited!!! 

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[RBW] Re: Racks for the Clem

[Tim Wood]

I was wondering that too Wayne.  In looking at the most recent photos on the 
blug it appears they've added a lower braze-on a couple inches north of the 
dropout which I assume would work for a rack stay. This would effectively bring 
the rack inboard, accounting for the longer stays. 

Not sure about the plescher rack. What really would you put in a rat trap? I 
can see it being handy for a jacket or a u-lock but that stuff can go in the 
front basket. 

Tim

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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

[Tim Wood]

That's a strange and curious pattern for sure. Curious as I feel that big gap 
would be a very common and popular size for the average sized male (5'9-6'1). 

What is a good amount of stand over anyway? If the 59 Clem with 700x60's has an 
88cm stand over and I have a 90 pbh in bare feet, I think I'm in for a snug 
relationship with my top tube. Luckily I ride in fairly thick soled shoes (keen 
sandals and blundstone boots). I ride mostly road and trail, nothing super 
technical so I feel good about my choice. But as you say, it would be nice if 
there was a size in the middle. 

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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

[Tim Wood]

Keith, great analysis. I have to admit, I thought I had a good grasp on fit and 
geometry charts, but can honestly say that I have I no idea how front centre 
translates to ride and fit. I come from a road background and always based my 
sizing on tt length and head tube (a little thought was put in to ht/st angles 
but again I didn't know how they translated).  For years I have been under the 
assumption that I needed a 57/58cm tt and that's that. So the thought of a 64cm 
tt is a lot to wrap my head around. 

Like you said,I'm going to trust in the process and method and hope it all 
works out (gulp). What reassures me is the comparison you make between a 59 
Clem and a 58 hunq being close in size and fit. I'm not sure why this reassures 
me cuz I've never ridden a 58 hunq, but I feel like if I were to buy one I'd 
buy a 58. Yikes. 

Anyway, not gonna stress about it, just gonna open that box when it gets here 
and ride off in to the sunset with my bars high.and hope that I can reach 
them. 

Tim

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[RBW] News Flash! Grant reverses ideas about bar height!

[Tim Wood]

Bahaah. Gee, wonder why the guy is selling that thing? Right, because it's 
un-rideable. Cheers. 

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[RBW] Clem Geometry

[Tim Wood]

Hey all, looks like riv has posted the geometry chart on the Clem page. Must 
have just went up. No stand over heights but the top tube lengths are listed. 
Not sure if it's effective length or actual and how the 6 degree slope would 
change the length if it is indeed the actual. 

I'm a little concerned about the 64cm of tt length I'll be rocking on my 59 but 
with bosco bars I'm sure reach won't be a major concern. 

Can't wait. 

Tim

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[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

[Tim Wood]

I too fretted over the 52 and 59. My PBH is 90 and saddle height 79. I went 
with the 59 and after seeing the most recent photos on the blug it somewhat 
reaffirmed my decision as I wouldn't have wanted a 52 with that much post and 
stem showing. 

-first time post, first time riv owner, hello everyone!


Tim Wood

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