Re: [RBW] Re: San Francisco to Arcata touring recommendations

[Franklyn Wu]

Not sure if you are open to doing multimodal transportation. You can ride 
to San Rafael and get on the SMART train. Then you can ride this tentative 
route from Sonoma County Airport all the way to Eureka. I mainly plotted on 
paved surfaces (not sure what kind of set up do you have). This takes you 
onto the coast from Ukiah to Fort Bragg, then follow HWY 1 to Laytonville. 
>From there you can ride your way up to Eureka mostly shielded from the 
coastal wind. This route minimizes the coast so you don't have to fight the 
head winds very much. But others should chime in for the best route between 
Laytonville and Eureka.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/42469821

On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:55:50 AM UTC-7 jamin orrall wrote:

> Thanks for all the tips so far! I'm afraid I don't have the option of 
> north to south this time, I am not only doing this for pleasure but also as 
> transportation, I need to be in Arcata by the 19th.
>
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:49:04 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Btw, the bible for the Pacific Coast Tour is Spring & Kirkendall: 
>> https://amzn.to/3Gueao2
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 9:32 AM Franklyn Wu  wrote:
>>
>>> The prevailing wind is north-to-south, so if you will be on the coast 
>>> much, then going from Arcata to SF is less challenging. There aren't many 
>>> ways to get to Arcata, though, perhaps greyhound bus with your bike packed 
>>> up?
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:12:55 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> The biggest recommendation is to do it in reverse! In good weather you 
>>>> get a tailwind North to South. Grinding against the headwind South to 
>>>> North 
>>>> is no fun. You won't win the fight against mother nature and it won't be 
>>>> nearly as fun!
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:06:51 AM UTC-7 jamin orrall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Howdy! I am doing a short little bike tour from San Francisco (Amtrak 
>>>>> station) to Arcata California in a week or so on my Homer Hilsen.  Anyone 
>>>>> have any tips or recommendations? Wondering if I should just stick to the 
>>>>> PCH or try some other roads.  FYI I have ridden from Bodega Bay to LA so 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> have some experience on the coastal route but not that far north.  I will 
>>>>> be camping with a very light road.
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: San Francisco to Arcata touring recommendations

[Franklyn Wu]

The prevailing wind is north-to-south, so if you will be on the coast much, 
then going from Arcata to SF is less challenging. There aren't many ways to 
get to Arcata, though, perhaps greyhound bus with your bike packed up?

On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:12:55 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> The biggest recommendation is to do it in reverse! In good weather you get 
> a tailwind North to South. Grinding against the headwind South to North is 
> no fun. You won't win the fight against mother nature and it won't be 
> nearly as fun!
>
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:06:51 AM UTC-7 jamin orrall wrote:
>
>> Howdy! I am doing a short little bike tour from San Francisco (Amtrak 
>> station) to Arcata California in a week or so on my Homer Hilsen.  Anyone 
>> have any tips or recommendations? Wondering if I should just stick to the 
>> PCH or try some other roads.  FYI I have ridden from Bodega Bay to LA so I 
>> have some experience on the coastal route but not that far north.  I will 
>> be camping with a very light road.
>
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[RBW] Re: ISO: 650B Tires in Fun Colors

[Franklyn Wu]

I haven't searched for a while, but here are a couple of options that came 
up: Simworks' Homage tire 
<https://www.sim.works/collections/simworks-by-panaracer/products/the-homage?variant=23123607107>
.
And Ultradynamico seems to have more color 
options: https://ultradynamico.com/pages/shop
Grand Bois in Japan still sells the OG red Hetres! 
<https://cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/T650_F42_SS.html> There is someone on the 
iBOB list that imports them here, I believe. You can order from GB directly 
and pay for air freight also.

If other sources are out there, I would be curious to know also!
Franklyn

On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 4:52:46 AM UTC-7 Caroline Golum wrote:

> TL:DR, this is purely an *aesthetic* inquiry. 
>
> I've had my Riv for 13 years (!) and have alternated between the Panaracer 
> Nifty Swifties (loved the tan sidewall, RIP) and, lately, the Schwalbe Big 
> Ben in a 27.5. 
>
> Since there are 700c tires in a slew of handsome colors, I'm wondering if 
> there are any comparable styles for 650Bs or even 27.5s? Bontrager makes a 
> brick 
> red 27.5 
> <https://www.dedhambike.com/product/bontrager-e6-hard-case-lite-e-bike-tire-27.5-inch-364575-1.htm?variations=3682756,3856940_session_id=vt~adwords%7Ckt~%7Cmt~%7Cta~&_vsrefdom=wordstream=Cj0KCQjw8qmhBhClARIsANAtbocq9o8dJfo12vqT89kff-vfj2oTKJo9gAKEy78gIRn11Ei0H8YuvuEaAnmnEALw_wcB>
>  
> but I have no idea if it's any good. 
>
> Ideally it'd be great to find something like the Panaracer Gravel Kings: 
> [image: 
> Panaracer-GravelKing-SK-TLC-Tire---700c---Limited-Edition-Colors--340-184-4]
> I don't work at a shop anymore so alas there is no big Highway 3 catalogue 
> to leaf through. And I ride in NYC so kevlar or similar flat protection is 
> preferred. 
>
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Franklyn Wu]

I live no where near Asheville (in Berkeley, CA) but my wife was born in 
Asheville and grew up in Greenville, SC, and I visited the Upstate/Western 
NC plenty between 2006 and 2019. Here is the selfish bit: I will be 
visiting the upstate area from 2/22-2/28, maybe you guys can arrange the 
get together ride on the weekend of 2/26-27? (and someone lend me a bike?)

Franklyn

On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 5:30:12 PM UTC-8 Suntour Jim wrote:

> Same goes for me - Knoxville is only 2 hours away from Asheville. A group 
> ride would be great.
>
> Jim Bailey
> Knoxville, TN
>
> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 2:31:49 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm only 5 to 5.5 hours away from Asheville and/or Boone. I'm in Central 
>> KY. There's a handful of us Riv riders here who would probably consider 
>> making the drive if there was a meetup planned in that area!
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 2:24:27 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dick, just saying "thank you" for kicking off this thread. Interesting 
>>> to see the number of Riv riders in the area.
>>>
>>> If you ever take a notion to organize a Brevard area ride for Riv riders 
>>> (and Riv curious, like myself) I'd be interested. Between the Brevard paved 
>>> greenway network, the dirt trail into the National Forest at Pisgah Forest 
>>> and the breweries/eateries along the greenway - and whatever routes you 
>>> Brevard locals keep secret - I bet a low key party pace ride could be a fun 
>>> event. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 9:31:53 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanx to all responding to my western NC post. Good to know. 
>>>> First..to Pamtook your CC class in Clt few years ago. Still 
>>>> benefitting from it. Good friend of David S who I think  is member of this 
>>>> group too. To Michaelwill keep eyes open for your father here in 
>>>> Brevard. At 73, I'm guessing I'm as old or older than him. :-) To Steve in 
>>>> Asheville. I know the areas you mention well. The hills around here can be 
>>>> brutal, especially for an old slow guy like me. 
>>>>
>>>> I've ridden from my home in Brevard to the Parkway (Blue Ridge Parkway) 
>>>> once, up 276 and back down. ~ 40 miles round trip with tough elevation 
>>>> gain, especially the last few miles, before heading back down. Ever 
>>>> thankful for my super comfortable 61 Homer that Keven helped me with back 
>>>> when he was still at Riv. Great guy. 
>>>>
>>>> I get the usual comments about my bike. Nice bike! How old is it? Among 
>>>> others.
>>>>
>>>> Dick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 8:58:27 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't live in NC, but my sister lives in Pittsboro, and I generally 
>>>>> make it up there a couple of times a year. I will be there the 1st week 
>>>>> of 
>>>>> July this year at a minimum.
>>>>>
>>>>> Laing
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 7:36:20 AM UTC-5 James wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm a Riv rider in West Asheville
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:03:21 PM UTC-5 lukeheller wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used to ride a Riv Canti-Rom for a few years when i first started 
>>>>>>> riding brevets in 2012.
>>>>>>> No longer ride a riv but all my bikes are riv inspired. I've had 
>>>>>>> several custom frames that are spin offs from my canti-rom.
>>>>>>> I'm the local organizer for the Asheville Intl Randonneurs and live 
>>>>>>> in Asheville if anyone wants to drink the kool-aid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:33:52 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm in Asheville. Not currently on a Riv but am giving one some 
>>>>>>>> serious thought (which is why I'm on this group). I occasionally ride 
>>>>>>>> fire 
>>>>>>>> roads in the Pisgah starting from the Hub. Last spring I did a ride 
>>>>>>>> from 
>>>>>>>> the Arboretum at Bent Creek to the Hub (still sore from that one!). 
>>>>>>>> Be

[RBW] Re: FS: Esbit cooksets

[Franklyn Wu]

The CS985HA set has been claimed. 

The CS585HA is still available.

Franklyn

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 3:37:02 PM UTC-8 Franklyn Wu wrote:

> I have a couple of Esbit cooksets for sale: 
>
>1. Esbit aluminum alloy cookset CS985HA 
>
> <https://esbit.de/en/product/cookset-with-alcohol-burner-pots-without-non-stick-coating-cs985ha/>.
>  
>It can be used with both solid fuels as well as Esbit alcohol stove. It 
>doesn't come with the stove (you can get it or any other similarly 
>dimension stove for not very much). Lightly used, comes with the carry 
> bag. 
>$25 + shipping.
>2. Esbit alumnum alloy cookset CS585HA 
>
> <https://esbit.de/en/product/cookset-for-solid-fuel-pot-without-non-stick-coating-cs585ha/>.
>  
>This is for solid fuels only. This is the 585ml version. The solid fuel 
>receptacle is a little jagged but still usable. Will include 4-6 solid 
> fuel 
>tablets. $10 + shipping.
>
> Pictures here: CL ad 
> <https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/spo/d/berkeley-esbit-cooksets-for-camping/7581820489.html>
> .
>
> Franklyn
> Berkeley, CA
>

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[RBW] FS: Esbit cooksets

[Franklyn Wu]

I have a couple of Esbit cooksets for sale: 

   1. Esbit aluminum alloy cookset CS985HA 
   
<https://esbit.de/en/product/cookset-with-alcohol-burner-pots-without-non-stick-coating-cs985ha/>.
 
   It can be used with both solid fuels as well as Esbit alcohol stove. It 
   doesn't come with the stove (you can get it or any other similarly 
   dimension stove for not very much). Lightly used, comes with the carry bag. 
   $25 + shipping.
   2. Esbit alumnum alloy cookset CS585HA 
   
<https://esbit.de/en/product/cookset-for-solid-fuel-pot-without-non-stick-coating-cs585ha/>.
 
   This is for solid fuels only. This is the 585ml version. The solid fuel 
   receptacle is a little jagged but still usable. Will include 4-6 solid fuel 
   tablets. $10 + shipping.

Pictures here: CL ad 
<https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/spo/d/berkeley-esbit-cooksets-for-camping/7581820489.html>
.

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: All Time Best Paint Color

[Franklyn Wu]

I still think the original Romulus color is one of the best there was! Here 
is one example when I owned 
it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/324768705/in/album-72157600050554321/

I also got it repainted at one point and it turned out really well, though 
obviously it wasn't a stock paint job (though it was by the designated 
painter for Riv at the 
time): 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/447923553/in/album-72157600050554321/

Franklyn

On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 4:08:42 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:

>
> I've been going down the archive rabbit hole and am curious of the bunch's 
> thoughts (opinions).
>
> *What is the best factory Rivendell paint color to date?*
>
> Give me your hot takes - and photos if you've got 'em.
>

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[RBW] FS: Islabikes Rotham Balance Bike

[franklyn]

Hi, everyone,

I am trying to help my sister sell my nephew's Islabikes balance bike. I 
bought this for him when he was 2. He is now 4 and moved on to a larger 
pedal bike. This balance bike is well reviewed and very lightweight. My 
sister keeps it indoor and even though my nephew enjoyed it, it still looks 
new! Here are some pictures on the NYC CL 
<https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-islabikes-balance-bike-for/7162962512.html>
.

I think $90 for list members is fair. Local pick up in Brooklyn is easiest. 
If there is a strong interest, we are open to shipping it (postage will be 
extra).

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: Bar End Shifter Woes

[franklyn]

Hi, Brady,

I do put lubes on the cables when I install them new. For the specific 
problem you described, One thing you could do is to put some beeswax on the 
cable end (the knob) and then pull the cable snug.

I do have some spare shifters, will PM you to see if you would like to buy 
them.

Franklyn

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 1:30:37 PM UTC-7, Brady Smith wrote:
>
> I was out riding with the kid today when my rear derailleur abruptly 
> dropped all the way to the bottom cog. I stopped, undid the corresponding 
> bar end shifter (a Gran Compe EnE from Velo Orange), wiped some gunk off 
> and put it back together. It worked for a little while but soon gave out 
> again and I wound up holding the shifter in place to make it up the climbs 
> on the way home. After taking it apart, cleaning everything, and 
> reassembling the shifter, the ratchet mechanism inside the shifter simply 
> won't engage (I've made the bike usable in the meantime by adding a rubber 
> washer to the assembly, which I did once before when it turned out I had a 
> defective Riv Silver shifter on another bike). The shifter was pretty 
> gunked up with sweat before this happened. A couple questions: 
>
> 1. Is it possible that sweat got into the ratchet mechanism and caused it 
> to fail? Seems unlikely, but I am a notoriously sweaty guy. 
>
> 2. The cable attached to this shifter was not that old (6 months?) but on 
> the verge of being corroded into the lever. A moot point, since it seems 
> like I'll need to replace the whole shifter, but how do fellow bar-end 
> users prevent sweat from ruining these things? Should I be greasing the 
> cable end to keep it from corroding into the shifter? Is there a type of 
> lube that works best to get sweat out of the washer assembly? 
>
> Any advice is appreciated. In the grand scheme of things, a bar end 
> shifter is far cheaper and easier to replace than an STI lever, but it 
> seems like I'm harder on these things than I should be. 
>
> -Brady
>
>

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[RBW] Useful use for beeswax

[franklyn]

Jan had a picture up somewhere showing him prepping all the Rene Herse crank 
arms with beeswax before shipping them out. Supposedly keeping that sheen on 
the arms longer.

Franklyn 

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[RBW] Frame repair in the Bay Area?

[franklyn]

I will second Irving's recommendation of CB cycle. Erik has done multiple 
repair/adding braze-ons for me.

John Fitzgerald of Fitz Cyclez is also great, but he is in Santa Rosa.

Franklyn 

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Re: [RBW] Problems with Nitto stems and bars?

[franklyn]

Some models of stem have the triangular nut, whereas others have the 
hexagonal nuts. It's not dangerous as long as it's torqued to the right 
spec. I also had one Nitto stem where the hexagonal nut can't quite stay 
put against the ledge, but I have no issue using a wrench to hold it while 
tightening the bolt down.

Franklyn

On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 9:33:40 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> The one on my teenager’s Clem has that. I’d love to have it for this stem 
> - where do I get it?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 9:32 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Here is what you should have:
>
> 
>
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 9:30 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Eric, that’s the nut that came with it, and it’s the same nut on the other 
> Technomic stem I have. How can it be wrong? Both stems were purchased new.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 9:29 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> That is the wrong nut. Nitto uses a triangular shaped nut on the back 
> side. I don’t know that what you’re using is dangerous, but you should by 
> all means get the proper Nitto nut.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy <http://youtube.com/CampyOnlyGuy>  
>
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:39 AM, 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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>
> 
> ++1 on this.
>
> The nut flats contact a 'flat' in the casting, and when you tighten the 
> allen in front, the 2 flats contact each other, and the nut does not rotate 
> as you tighten it.  Visually check the BACK of the stem for the nut flat to 
> line up with the stem casting flat to line up.
>
> I would do this before greasing or oiling anything.  The bar is NOT 
> designed to move or rotate in the clamp and needs grease only to prevent 
> galvanic corrosion (dis-simiiar metals like steel in Al)
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 11:15:55 AM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Ok, what of the strangely spinning bolt? 
>>>
>>> Some Nitto stems have a nut on the backside that needs a wrench on it 
>>> when you turn the Allen wrench on the front bolt to keep it from spinning, 
>>> some do not. If you have a nut on the back of the stem that you did not 
>>> hold still while you were turning the Allen wrench, that is likely your 
>>> problem - the stem bolt was never tight.
>>>
>>
>> Laing 
>>
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[RBW] Re: tires

[franklyn]

There is a thread on the 650b group on tires, which may pertain here. I 
used to have the Bleriot and it can fit 42mm tires with fenders. For this 
width, I think the other thread mentioned GB Hetres, Rene Herse Babyshoe 
Pass, and Panaracer Parimoto and Gravelking slicks. There are probably 
other possibilities: Panaracer Pasela in various widths, Soma Grand 
Randonneurs. 

There is a wealth of variety of 650b tires in the 35mm to 50mm now!

Franklyn
On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 1:03:03 PM UTC-7 Joel Stern wrote:

> That should be and one Panaracer, sorry for the typo
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 3:59:33 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote:
>>
>> I currently have Grand Bois on the Bleriot. They start out with very 
>> little tread and now are pretty slick. I miscalculated the miles on my 
>> bike, the speedometer says just under 7,000 miles, I think this was a new 
>> computer when I put it on the bike so this bike may very well have this 
>> mileage. I have 2 more sets of these same tires but I also have a NOS set 
>> of Nifty Swifty's, stored in my basement and look fine, as one Panaracer 
>> Col De Vie Randonee with another that was used on the rollers as a rear 
>> tire with a fork mount, maybe a dozen times and looks new. I am looking for 
>> the smoothest most comfortable ride... both to protect my back and my 
>> hands. Any thoughts from those that have used these or is there another 
>> tire to consider?
>>
>> Thanks much
>>
>> Joel
>>
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[RBW] Re: List Status Thoughts: So... here we are Saturday morning

[franklyn]

Jim,

Appreciate what you do to keep the group going. We have "known" each other not 
quite 25 years, but I think I sent my first entry to your cyclofiend website in 
the mid 2000's. Since you own this group, your wish to keep the group insulated 
from exclusively rivendell-related threads rules the day. I suspect 90%+ of the 
threads would not come close to touching the boundary, though as someone who no 
longer owns any rivendell, whether I can start any thread is questionable by 
your current set of rules.

"Neutrality" is quite an artificial concept. I don't think that's quite the 
proper word here. I think many of us would readily acknowledge we have views, 
but what you ask us to do on this forum is to be "silent" about them here. 
However, I also think if the group wishes to really be "neutral", then applying 
and enforcing the rules fairly is important. Calling something "divisive crap" 
is decidedly not neutral. 

As I said, I think 90%+ of threads will be fine, but rules are tested in the 
margin, so I just want to check out a few edge cases.

Is talking about Grant's blahg, if it does not pertain to Rivendell bikes 
directly, also off limit now? 

What about a hypothetical ride report that includes the following observation: 
I was on the Capitol crown trail in Bethesda, MD, and saw a cyclist charged 
three teenagers who were posting fliers about a protest. Later I found out that 
the cyclist has been apprehended?

Could I include in my ride report hostility I encountered from motorists (there 
were definitely threads on how many times we have been 'coal rolled' by diesel 
trucks)? How about if those hostility were racially motivated? Is that too much 
for this "refuge" then?

I don't know what percent of list members are people of color, women, and/or 
members of LGBTQ community. I guess my point of asking that question is that 
when I ride, I encounter things that relate to the core issues of what people 
are protesting about. Should we exclude those from our ride reports?

Finally, I just want to echo what Jonathan D. said in the other thread, the 
expectation to be able to insulate oneself from the "noises" is a form of 
priviledge. I understand that people want to maintain that privilege here, and 
in the context of a bicycle group this maintenance is harmless enough. But it 
it's priviledge nonetheless. 

Btw, even our names are political and have systemic racism in it. I came to 
this country in the early 90s as a teenager. Before 9-11, immigration officers 
and government workers would openly encourage people to pick americanized names 
because their native names are "too hard to pronounce". "Franklyn" borned out 
partially from that, but also is created from my internalized colonization, as 
an attempt to assimilate and fit in. 

I do value the group interactions and the threads, and I want to reiterate my 
appreciation for what Jim has done. And all that are not in conflict with my 
wish for the group to be more reflective of the time and history we are living 
through.

Best,
Franklyn 

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[RBW] Re: On Topic / Off Topic

[franklyn]

I appreciate the work Jim does to moderate the forum. I haven't owned a 
Rivendell in 10 years but all my bikes reflect preferences I gained because 
of Rivendell's influence, and I still use many parts and accessories that 
Riv sells. 

I think drawing a line on the metric of civility, tones, and respect is 
very reasonable. I remember members requesting moderators to shut down a 
thread on helmet debate. The fact is, we can get pretty worked up on 
bike-exclusive issues like low/high trail; long/short chainstays, etc. 
Disagreement ain't bad, we just don't want to call each other names!

I appreciate Grant's newest blahg entry, as he makes plain that bicycles 
are inextricably linked to human history and activities, and racial and 
other social justice are no exceptions. In the worst pandemic we have faced 
for 100 years, even public health experts support protest and assembly 
because racial injustice to them is a "public health" issue.

Personally, I can speak to how my experience with biking are tied to the 
issue of race. I love doing long-distance rides; brevets, mixed-terrain 
ramblings, short and long tours, S24Os. Even in places that are considered 
"diverse" and "progressive" I have experienced hostility that are thrown my 
way because I am not white, anywhere from race-tinted jokes and names, fake 
accents, sometimes those comes in combination with things thrown my way; 
one time a passenger of a truck swung a plastic soda bottle at me as they 
drove by, while saying some racial epithets. Riding our bikes to beautiful 
and remote places is liberating, but this type of activities also makes us 
vulnerable. On a tour, bike trip, or long rides, in addition to all the 
usual bike-related logistics, I always wonder, and sometimes look into, 
whether a locale is 1) friendly to cyclists; 2) does it have a reputation 
of treating POCs poorly. Obviously, we are still sheltering in place and I 
don't have plans to do any bike travel right now, but the 
anti-asian/anti-chinese sentiments and attacks that came with pandemic give 
me more pause on traveling to some locations. 

My point is, we talk a lot about life circumstances when it intercept 
cycling/bikes: commute; city infrastructure; traffic; bike-friendly 
services/locales; aging and health. For people of color, especially the 
African American community, race intercepts/cuts deeper and affects us just 
as much, if not more than some or all of these other categories that are OK 
to talk about on this list. Many of these other issues are "political" 
and/or controversial, too. Whether local transportation and urban planning 
policies (funding for bike-specific infrastructure; lowering the speed 
limit, etc.) appropriately address the needs of non-car modes are deeply 
political and can be divisive, and no one bats an eye if a lister shares 
the experience that residents of a particular neighborhood are especially 
anti-bikes (as shown by anti-bike signs or laying tacks on the road, etc.). 
A year or so ago, someone set up a booby trap on a popular bike path in 
Portland (OR) and seriously injured a cyclist. The perpetrator was arrested 
and later put on trial. I don't think anyone would object talking about 
that on this list, so why is racial injustice any different, after all, it 
serious endanger some people, including when they are riding bikes (or 
jogging, as in the case of Armaud Arbery).

We never had any problem when Grant and sometimes even other listers 
announce a charitable cause, why should we block Jan from announcing his? 
After all, even if we are allergic to "racial" stuff, (as I mentioned 
earlier) public health experts support the protesters congregating despite 
the pandemic because racial injustice is a serious "public health" issue. 
How is soliciting contribution for a public health cause any different than 
other cause that other listers solicit for?

I am not opposed to banning and removing certain threads, and I think 
negativity/uncivility/lack of respect is a good criterion for that, not the 
fact that we are talking about something related to race or other social 
justice issues.
with respect,
Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 10:58:12 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> I appreciate the honesty of your feedback. 
>
> It may have been absolutely the wrong move. We are all decidedly 
> imperfect. 
>
> My decision was related more to the tone of the responses (both public and 
> moderated) which seemed to be quickly going off-course. it seemed to be 
> boiling up, which is happening quite a bit of late. 
>
> - Jim
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Re: [RBW] Re: It’s dull around here, let me bring some color

[franklyn]

Hearing about your struggle to find a good shop and knowing how retail bike 
shops everywhere, including those here in the East SF Bay Area give me an 
uncomfortable sense of dissonance. It is true that the shelter-in-place 
order has stretched out the timeline for repairs, but shops that survived 
are super stoked to work on all bikes. 

If it were just installing those new wheels and the dyno, it really 
shouldn't take the mechanics too long (my estimate would be less than 30 
minutes), but perhaps you have other repairs lined up. 

Franklyn

On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 1:21:19 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Ted, I’m sorry but I’m such a disappointment. In true form, with my 
> aversion to my scale (I’m never in agreement with that thing) I weighed 
> *nothing* but just tossed those wheels in the van and drove off to get them 
> installed. Which brings me to the story portion of my post...
>
> Henderson and Las Vegas are woefully short of good bike shops. The two 
> largest are a LONG drive from me, and they concentrate on roadies or 
> mountain biker types but certainly not the Leah Petersons of the world. The 
> only shop that ever knew what a Rivendell was has closed its doors so I’m 
> back to folks thinking “What a nice cruiser.” 
>
> The shops that remain are booked solid. They can’t get parts. They can’t 
> take anymore bikes. Today I pointed the van NW and drove to Southwest 
> Bikes. I arrived 20 min before opening, and there was already a line in the 
> parking lot. I was #3 in line. I heard the mechanic say to the guy in front 
> of me, “We aren’t taking any new repairs.” 
>
> Um. I called last week and they had said to bring my bike in when I got my 
> wheels. After turning the guy in front of me away, it was my turn. “Did I 
> hear you say you aren’t taking new repairs?” I asked. 
>
> “Yeah, only simple things like flats.”
>
> “Well, I need these wheels and dyno put on my bike, and I had some other 
> things on the list...”
>
> “I took your call last week - I remember. I’m sorry; can you come back May 
> 28th and we’ll take the bike then?”
>
> It’s not his fault; these are unprecedented times and frankly, I’m happy 
> that the bike industry is getting a cash infusion. So, I smiled, thanked 
> him and left without agreeing to come back. 
>
> I loaded the Clementine back onto the rack and started making phone calls. 
> One shop said bikes would be worked on June 7-8th. Last week I was 
> waitlisted at a promising shop so I called them to see where my name was 
> at, and they had 5-6 pages of names on their waitlist! They figured it 
> would be Sunday before they would call me and even then I’d have to leave 
> the bike for a couple of weeks. There was one large shop that I’d avoided 
> because they are named Pro Cyclery and I just knew I’d be the laughingstock 
> of their store if I pulled up with my Clementine. I looked at my 
> James-built Rainbow Brite wheels in the back seat.
>
> I called Pro Cyclery.
>
> “Hi, yes, we have a wait, maybe a week and a half - maybe June 2nd, but 
> we’re not as bad as a lot of other shops.”
>
> I bit back tears and pointed the van south. 
>
> I had pulled myself together when I arrived Pro Cyclery. I looked at the 
> woman in her padded bike shorts wheeling and dealing with an employee and 
> shuddered. The people here are not going to understand about my Rivendell. 
> I stood in line and listened to another employee explain to a mother-son 
> duo that he was so sorry, he could not get parts. Parts are sold out 
> everywhere, all over town and even overseas. I said a silent prayer of 
> thanks that I had brought all my own parts. (How did James and Candice get 
> them?!) I was waited on by a guy who seemed confused about my dyno. “I 
> don’t see how we’re going to hide that wire,” he said. “You’re not,” I 
> said, “It’s going to wrap around the fork. Say, um do you guys do dyno? I 
> have a website if it’s confusing...” I gave him a list of wants for 
> repairs. It was a lot. He was a bit withered after we got through it all. 
> He said some of this was above his expertise level but “Jaime” had a lot of 
> experience and would know. “We’ll call you and give you an estimate for the 
> work soon. But there will be a wait for it to be complete.” I assured him 
> it was fine and I left. 
>
> I drove away, Clem-less, and felt unsettled. Thirty minutes later the 
> phone rang and the shop wanted to give me my estimate for the repair work. 
> “And let me say,” he said, “All three of us are STOKED to work on your 
> bike. We never see bikes like this come in here. Someone took a lot of care 
> building this bike; we are really excited to work on it.” 
>
> Well, I went from the lowest of lows to a HIGH. My bike is going to

[RBW] Tall Arm V-Brakes

[franklyn]

Definitely look at the model number of your current v brakes and figure out the 
arm length. Then use gravelbike.com's table to buy a brake that work. 

I have fooled around with this same problem quite a bit. It looks like you just 
need a few mm longer. 

Franklyn 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cherry Blossoms Season!

[franklyn]

Carl,

Those are very nice, thanks. I am presuming that you are near Yosemite 
National Park. I know that the park is closed, similar to many parks around 
the state. However, many state and county parks near me in the Bay Area are 
still open to non-motorized access by people on bikes and on foot. Do you 
know if that is the same situation for Yosemite?

Thanks,
Franklyn

On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 7:49:05 AM UTC-7, tuolumne bikes wrote:
>
> The Mariposa lilies are starting now. They're very simple--one leaf, one 
> flower growing on exposed hillsides. They are the kind of flower that you 
> have to watch for. The dogwood flowers are coming soon. 
>
> My basic 13 mile out the door loop ascends a big hill (Big Hill), wraps 
> around the north side of the ridge on gravel and descends on the south face 
> on pavement. The north side has lush drainages with dogwoods and big leaf 
> maple--all just starting to leaf out. The light is awesome now while the 
> trees are still letting the sun through.
>
> Carl, Columbia, CA
>
> On April 15, 2020 4:39:01 AM PDT, Takashi  > wrote:
>>
>> Jason,
>> You have gorgeous trees near you. Must be fun to ride around in town in 
>> this season.
>> I can imagine drivers complaining about fallen blossoms sticking all over 
>> their cars!
>>
>> Franklyn,
>> I can't tell if they're cherries either, but it must be a joy to admire 
>> them while riding. Beautiful.
>>
>> Tirebiter, Steven, and Roberta,
>> Glad to know that you are enjoying this thread.
>> Cherry blossoms are already falling here, but then peach blossoms are in 
>> full bloom.
>> I think I can take pictures of them next weekend.
>>
>>
>> Takashi
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[franklyn]

Can someone confirm my suspicion that the Kaisai hubs Riv is selling are just 
rebadged SP's? 

If they are, SP/Kaisai are significantly lighter and more efficient than 
Shimano DN-3N7x or 3N80 dynamos. They are pretty close to Schimdt SON hubs in 
terms of weight and efficiency but are about half the price. SON hubs have some 
advantages:

1. SON produces a wide body version that makes wheel build stronger because 
they ate less dished.
2. SON has a version. That allows you to have wires built into your fork legs 
and therefore looks like there is no wire sticking out from the hub
3. SON hubs can rotate in either directions so the electrode can be either on 
the drive or line-drive side to allow flexibility I options in where you want 
to mount your lamp.
4. SON hubs have this nifty pressurized hub chamber to prevent moisture from 
building up.

That being said, these benefits are marginal for my use cases so all but one of 
my and my wife's dynamo set ups (and we have 7 bikes between the two of us that 
have dynamos) use SP hubs.

Franklyn 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[franklyn]

Interesting. Every time I top off sealant (through the valve with the core off) 
the tire is completely flat, and usually it comes right back up with floor 
pump. How long did you leave your tires completely flat? 

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[RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[franklyn]

Roberta,

I think like all things, how long your tubeless tires will hold air depends on 
many factors. Some of it depends on the tires. The supple tires I like to ride 
from Rene Herse/Compass have side walls weaved from fabrics. Air leaks from the 
interface between the rim and the tire as well as the sidewalls, slowly. With 
sealants inside, the leaking air pushes the sealant toward the crevices, 
thereby sealing them. The first 1-3 days of setting up a tubeless tire involves 
a rinse-repeat cycle of pumping up the tire, spinning it to distribute the 
sealant, letting the crevices get sealed up, adding sealant and pumping up. 
After a handful or less of this cycle, the tire I have typically holds air very 
well.

I work about two hours from my house, and before the pandemic, I would travel 
to my office, stay for 3 nights, and come home for the weekend. I would need to 
pump my tires, once set up properly, maybe twice in 3 weeks. I ride 48mm 
RH/Compass tires are 30-35 psi and I am just north of 200 lbs. I top off 
sealant (through the valve with the core taken off) every 5-6 months. I heard 
from a local shop that Orange Seal's endurance variety can last longer. I 
bought a bottle and will give it a try.

The difficulty in seating only happens at set up. Afterward even if the tire is 
completely flat you can pump it back up no problem. 

In case you need to replace your tire, or use an used tire on another tubeless 
set up, there are ways without going to the shop. Another person already 
mentioned that they have floor pumps nowadays that has a reservoir that 
unleashes a big volume of air at once. I don't have that, but I just go down to 
the neighborhood gas station with my Schrader to presto valve converter, throw 
in a quarter and use the compressor there.

Just for reference. I had a tire that I set up once and never had to worry 
about seating the bead until it was time to replace the tire.

Franklyn 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[franklyn]

The combination that will fulfill these functions features are pretty 
unique: non-diamond frame, lightweight tubes, long wheelbase, wide tires. 
Even the Betty and Cheviot, which are lighter than the Clem Ls, are not 
considered light, especially not for folks who are in the weight range you 
are talking about. My wife is ~ 125 lbs and Betty would have been too stout 
for her, even if she carries a full commuting or camping load. 

There are other companies who make small batches mixte frames. I have a 
soft spot for Jitensha because I have an Ebisu and it is on the same street 
as my house in Berkeley. It makes a beautiful mixte  
<https://www.jitensha.com/eng/aboutframes_e.html>(scroll down half way). 
You can pick your custom color. It is $1000 more than a Cheviot, but not as 
expensive as a custom. It will be lighter than Betty, but I doubt 
Hiroshi-san (the proprietor there) would spec anyone long seat stays in the 
neighborhood of more recent Rivs. 

At mid-$2000 range, you can find a competent custom builder to build you 
something that ticks all those boxes.

Franklyn

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 10:12:57 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I hope Rivendell is reading some of these threads and that they will 
> design bikes that are more accessible to the female of the species. Like 
> the Susie. Typically we women don’t have the upper body strength of men, 
> and we tend to be lighter. So, when people say “make the bike lighter, 
> focus on the engine” it doesn’t do me any good. 
>
> Actually, this came up just yesterday. The boys have surrogate 
> grandparents here in Vegas. They are a lovely couple in their mid-70s who 
> don’t have grandchildren and so have claimed my boys. This couple is active 
> and they like to ride their bikes together. Yesterday the wife called me 
> and she asked me where I got my bike and how did I find that company? She 
> wants to get her bars up higher and she wants a lighter bike. I was so 
> deflated because there is not one Riv I could recommend to her - she is 
> maybe 5’2” and 105 pounds. I cannot see her on a Clem L or a Cheviot 
> because they are just too unwieldy. She doesn’t want a diamond frame, so 
> the Roadini is out. She is not going to spend $6k on a custom. They take 
> their bikes on their bike rack and we have really steep hills here and I 
> just know the Clem/Cheviot are not the right choice for her. I love 
> Rivendell best of all bikes in existence but I cannot recommend a Rivendell 
> to her.
>
> I’d like to see a little more diversity in the Riv lineup so that it would 
> be more inclusive. I know who the customer base is and that I’m in the 
> minority, and that’s fine, but there are more people like me and Roberta 
> and Melanie and Ann now, and it would be nice to buy Rivs that we don’t 
> have to beat into submission to accommodate our female-ness. 
>
> I hope that didn’t come off as harsh. I don’t mean it to be. I really want 
> Rivendell to do well; I love that company. I’d like to see it grow.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 8, 2020, at 9:05 AM, Melanie > 
> wrote:
>
> 
> James and Roberta - what lighter 650B wheels are you recommending?
>
> On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 12:02:00 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> I’m not fully committing to this yet. Roberta and I get into trouble 
>> because we talk on Marco Polo and then we get ideas and then we like each 
>> other’s ideas and the next thing we know our wallets are on fire. 
>>
>> So, I am ordering a Cheviot, and I am spending extra $ to build it with 
>> light parts. But that bike is a long way off, months, in fact. Meanwhile, 
>> Roberta is giving her beloved Appaloosa a makeover and it is getting lots 
>> of new parts and she’s having all the fun. And since we’re #Rivsisters and 
>> I’m like that little sister who wants what her sister has, I want to 
>> explore what it would take to lighten up my Clem L, which is my only bike 
>> at present, and which is quite heavy. You’ll have heard me mention this in 
>> Joe’s What Is A Cheviot thread. If my Clem could lose a little weight it 
>> would be the most perfect bike anyone could dream up. A Susie version of 
>> Clems would be just so ideal - someone should tell Riv. 
>>
>> Anyway, if I got aluminum Bosco bars, and new wheels (don’t ask me what 
>> kind, how would I know?) would this make my bike feel considerably lighter? 
>> I don’t think I can give up my front derailleur because I use it for Killer 
>> Hill. And what if I wanted to add dyno while I was at it? Would that negate 
>> my weight savings? Also, I’m keeping my racks; I can’t part with those. 
>> Maybe I’m not the best candidate for this... 
>>
>> Ha

[RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[franklyn]

Joe,

Tubeless sealant in inner tubes is a good compromise if you don't want to 
worry about compressors, but want to have the benefits of the sealant. I 
have two bikes with tubeless and 3 with tubes. I also don't have a 
compressor. With new tubeless tires I have had good luck using my floor 
pump to seat the beads. With used tires, I go to a nearby gas station and 
use a valve converter and a quarter to inflate quickly! 

Franklyn

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 9:53:53 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I'm a Tubeless Denier because I've had miserable luck mounting them with a 
> floor pump and I'm not willing to pay for a noisy compressor to do the job, 
> but I've been fixing flats for more decades than I care to number here and 
> consider it part of the cycling deal. For folks who are not me and aren't 
> fixing/mounting tires anyway, tubeless seems the way to go for lightness 
> and less flats. I had them on a Crust Lightning Bolt I got from James and 
> Candice @ Analog and they were light and plush. 
>
> Roberta: I did get one puncture which sent some goo flying because I 
> didn't use fenders, but it sealed up right away and got me back home. I had 
> some cleanup to do later but it was a lot less work than if I'd had to stop 
> and swap tubes on the road. 
>
> Conclusion: Don't be like Old School Joe, go tubeless, be light with no 
> flats! 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[franklyn]

Compared to road slicks, Thunder Burts are definitely more "burly", but 
they don't have the protective belts like Marathon or Big Bens do. 

three thoughts about flats:

1. Jan Heine's opinion is that when you use supple tires and run them at a 
reasonably low pressure, your chance of getting a flat us significantly 
lower. I have similar practice and tended to have similar luck as he does. 
Even when I was commuting daily through the debris-strewn streets of San 
Francisco I rarely had flat on my supple wide 650b tires.

2. Go tubeless as James suggested. If your rims are tubeless compatible, 
then tubeless improves on both situations. You are a lighter AND more 
puncture resistant. Tubeless sealant can seal most punctures you encounter 
on the road. There was a flickr picture of lister David removing goatheads 
from his tires at home but he didn't flat from them!

3. If your wheels are not tubeless compatible at the moment, you can put 
tubeless sealant in your inner tubes. At the lowish pressure (35psi) these 
wide tires run, most punctures will also be sealed by sealant-in-tube. You 
might experience a drop in pressure when the puncture takes place, but it 
won't flat. Just pump it up and you are good to go. 

Franklyn

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 7:53:29 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Franklyn - I know nothings bout Thunder Burts but I’m tempted to buy them 
> because that is CHEAP. 
>
> Are they pretty resistant to flats? Flats are not my thing. They scare me 
> and I don’t know how to change them 
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 8, 2020, at 7:31 AM, franklyn > wrote:
>
> 
> Some of these lighter but more "expensive" things can be had more cheaply 
> with some astute shopping. That's part of the reason these online groups 
> are helpful as we can swap and upgrade to good used parts and sometimes get 
> good intel on sale of new parts! 
>
> For example, these 650b Schwalbe Thunder Burts tires are now only $29 per 
> at Universal 
> <https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=84410=CjwKCAjw7LX0BRBiEiwA__gNw7pDUXuxBujkDPb-KpsZzHY9MfZagg8_1_sY92mzlcorXUMG5QO6yxoCCn8QAvD_BwE>.
>  
> Were you using 50mm Big Ben? If you can fit Thunder Burts, you will shave 2 
> lbs off just by changing out the tires. Not only that, these Burts are 
> "supple" and great for mixed terrain riding also, and are known to roll 
> well even on pavement. 
>
> What James is doing with Roberta's bike is exactly how I would go about it 
> if I were try to shave weight off my own bike.
>
> Franklyn
>
> On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 6:59:15 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> See? I’m glad i asked because there are so many good points here. Let me 
>> see if I can respond to a few of the points/questions here. 
>>
>> New 55 Chev has 700 c wheels, so I can’t swap. 
>>
>> Roberta - YES, I will only have a rear rack and a Randi Jo bag on my 
>> bars. This will not be my hauling bike. The noble Clem can do that. (I 
>> cringe hearing myself say it because that’s pretty big talk. I’m probably 
>> strapping bags on and bringing treasures with me, who am I kidding.) 
>>
>> Franklyn, I have 2 inch Big Bens on that Clem right now, which, as you 
>> mentioned, are heavy. 
>>
>> LeRoy, you made a lot of solid points, and I think you’re right, I’m not 
>> changing the Clem with small, expensive parts swapping, so I’ll leave those 
>> bars and components alone. The DNA of the Clem is hard to buck. Also, I 
>> laughed at your fender reference. Leah Peterson is saving weight on her 
>> Clem - one fender! 
>>
>> Mark - I knew you would say this! Once you have known and loved long 
>> chainstays, you can’t go back. Well, I can’t. If I had the Betty and only 
>> the Betty, it’d have been content because I’d not have known the 
>> difference. But once I had the Clem and I had the choice, I chose the long, 
>> comfortable Clem every single time. That poor Betz sat parked. I think the 
>> longer Cheviot is going be be an improvement. Plus, I am partial to the 
>> name, headbadge and decals and always have been. I knew nothing about bikes 
>> when I bought my Betty. I got whatever Rivendell put on there. And now I 
>> know enough to ask for what I want and it’s going to be the first bike I’ve 
>> ever had say over and I cannot wait. 
>>
>> But I do think the one thing to come out of this is that wheels make a 
>> difference, which Joe and Franklyn also allude to. I’d be open to buying 
>> new wheels/tires if it made me a little lighter and thus faster. Plus, I 
>> know I’m getting dyno on the Cheviot and I have been thinking about it for 
>

[RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[franklyn]

Some of these lighter but more "expensive" things can be had more cheaply 
with some astute shopping. That's part of the reason these online groups 
are helpful as we can swap and upgrade to good used parts and sometimes get 
good intel on sale of new parts! 

For example, these 650b Schwalbe Thunder Burts tires are now only $29 per 
at Universal 
<https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=84410=CjwKCAjw7LX0BRBiEiwA__gNw7pDUXuxBujkDPb-KpsZzHY9MfZagg8_1_sY92mzlcorXUMG5QO6yxoCCn8QAvD_BwE>.
 
Were you using 50mm Big Ben? If you can fit Thunder Burts, you will shave 2 
lbs off just by changing out the tires. Not only that, these Burts are 
"supple" and great for mixed terrain riding also, and are known to roll 
well even on pavement. 

What James is doing with Roberta's bike is exactly how I would go about it 
if I were try to shave weight off my own bike.

Franklyn

On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 6:59:15 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> See? I’m glad i asked because there are so many good points here. Let me 
> see if I can respond to a few of the points/questions here. 
>
> New 55 Chev has 700 c wheels, so I can’t swap. 
>
> Roberta - YES, I will only have a rear rack and a Randi Jo bag on my bars. 
> This will not be my hauling bike. The noble Clem can do that. (I cringe 
> hearing myself say it because that’s pretty big talk. I’m probably 
> strapping bags on and bringing treasures with me, who am I kidding.) 
>
> Franklyn, I have 2 inch Big Bens on that Clem right now, which, as you 
> mentioned, are heavy. 
>
> LeRoy, you made a lot of solid points, and I think you’re right, I’m not 
> changing the Clem with small, expensive parts swapping, so I’ll leave those 
> bars and components alone. The DNA of the Clem is hard to buck. Also, I 
> laughed at your fender reference. Leah Peterson is saving weight on her 
> Clem - one fender! 
>
> Mark - I knew you would say this! Once you have known and loved long 
> chainstays, you can’t go back. Well, I can’t. If I had the Betty and only 
> the Betty, it’d have been content because I’d not have known the 
> difference. But once I had the Clem and I had the choice, I chose the long, 
> comfortable Clem every single time. That poor Betz sat parked. I think the 
> longer Cheviot is going be be an improvement. Plus, I am partial to the 
> name, headbadge and decals and always have been. I knew nothing about bikes 
> when I bought my Betty. I got whatever Rivendell put on there. And now I 
> know enough to ask for what I want and it’s going to be the first bike I’ve 
> ever had say over and I cannot wait. 
>
> But I do think the one thing to come out of this is that wheels make a 
> difference, which Joe and Franklyn also allude to. I’d be open to buying 
> new wheels/tires if it made me a little lighter and thus faster. Plus, I 
> know I’m getting dyno on the Cheviot and I have been thinking about it for 
> the Clem. It’s $$$ but bikes are my one extravagance. 
>
> Surlyprof mentioned difference between aluminum and steel - I wouldn’t 
> have known. That is really helpful. 
>
> Well, carry on. I have really enjoyed the opinions here. 
>
> Thanks so much for sharing your wisdom, 
> Leah 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition

[franklyn]

I would say that there are still things you can do now. Do the Clem L and 
Cheviot have the same wheel size? If so, I would go ahead and spec a light 
wheels for the Cheviot now, but use it on the Clem until the Cheviot arrives. 
Besides the frame set, wheels probably are the next big ticket item both in 
terms of cost, as well as proportion of the overall weight. 

Tires are next. What tires do you use? For example, one Schwalbe Big Ben wired 
tire in 650b can weigh up to 850g! Whereas a similar width Thunder Burt can 
weigh as little as 460g. For a pair of tires that's 800g or almost 2 lbs! Using 
lightweight Schwalbe tubes in those size can easily save you another 100g for a 
pair. 

I think you have a golden opportunity to conduct an experiment to see if the 
weight saving ok your Clem is worth your money. Go ahead and buy the 
lightweight parts for your Cheviot now and use them on your Clem until your 
Cheriot arrives. This way you can see how your Clem feels a little lighter and 
decide if it's worth it for you to have light parts on your Clem. If not, just 
take the light weight parts off and put them on the Cheviot. 

Franklyn

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Re: [RBW] Wald Bag

[franklyn]

I also think that Swift. Outer Shell, Ruthworks, ILE, etc. are priced to 
allow livable wages where the bag makers live, which I think is a very 
important factor.

Franklyn

On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Probably. I think Swift is priced on par with other USA bagmakers at 
> similar quality and size levels. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 650b wheelset (for Rosco Baby build) AND tires too - want to buy by this weekend, SF Bay Area

[franklyn]

For what is worth, Jan Heine wrote about the myth that rim width matters here:

https://www.renehersecycles.com/myth-18-wide-tires-need-wide-rims/#more-14719

Think about mountain bike rims in the 80's and 90's

>From personal experience, I have used velocity synergy rims with schwalbe 
>thunder burts 2.1" tires. The synergy probably has 18mm or less internal 
>width. It was completely fine!

Franklyn 
Berkeley, ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

[franklyn]

It seems that a plush ride is of value here. One trick that I use and one that 
has been mentioned on this list before is to put tubeless sealant in the tubes. 
This way you can enjoy the supple Compass/RH tires while not worry about flats: 
have the cake and eat it also.

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Re: [RBW] Tires for Clementine

[franklyn]

I am amazed not one person mentioned Schwalbe G-One 27.5x2.0 or Panaracer 
Gravel King 48mm (27.5), not mention the Compass/Rene Herse Tires! They are 
lighter and "suppler" than any Schwalbe tires mentioned here!

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 8:59:47 AM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> The tires aren’t doing the dusting - we suspect the brake pads are. Did 
> you see the photos? Our commute is concrete - a sidewalk made extra wide, 
> and I don’t spend a lot of time on the blacktop. Cars reign supreme up 
> here, and with those big, wide paths and few if any pedestrians, we stay on 
> concrete. See my original post for where the speckles appear and don’t 
> appear 
>
> Sent from my iPad 
>
> > On Sep 27, 2019, at 8:52 AM, johnboy > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Leah, I’ve never noticed tires “dusting” my frame .Could it be 
> something on the roads you are riding? Where on the frame does it appear? 
> Where doesn’t it? John 
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[RBW] OT: Question about where to go (online) for Large Format Film Photography equipments

[franklyn]

Hi, folks,

I enjoyed reading about the film ride hosted by Rivelo in Portland last 
week. I have been assisting my parents in their efforts to downsize and 
de-clutter. My father asks me to help him sell a Wista 45 large format film 
camera. My camera knowledge is fairly limited to digital and don't know 
where I could go to find interest for the camera besides eBay. Knowing that 
there are people interested in film photography here, I thought I would ask 
to see if folks have some ideas.

Thanks,
Franklyn

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[RBW] Re: OT: Free Nikomat film camera in Berkeley

[franklyn]

The camera is going to a new home. Thanks!

On Saturday, July 6, 2019 at 8:56:28 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:
>
> Hi, Everyone, 
>
> Several folks on this list are film camera enthusiasts, and take them on 
> their bike rides. I want to give this Nikomat film body away. My 
> grandfather gave it to my father in the late 80's, and my father already 
> had his collection of Olympus OM film cameras and lenses so he gave it to 
> me when I was a teenager. I learn to take photos on it and used it well 
> into the new millennium. After I moved to digital in 2005, this body has 
> been gathering dust in an old camera bag. In my effort to declutter, I am 
> giving it away. It will come with the 50mm f/1.4 lens. 
>
> The camera will need some refurbishment (the shutter seems to be stuck at 
> this point). If you are in the Bay Area, come and say hello and take it. 
> You will need to cover shipping if you are out of town. I hope it will go 
> to someone who enjoys using film camera and might put it to use.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/48213385366/in/dateposted-public/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/48213380701/in/dateposted-public/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/48213430932/in/dateposted-public/
>
> Thanks,
> Franklyn
> Berkeley, CA
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[RBW] OT: Free Nikomat film camera in Berkeley

[franklyn]

Hi, Everyone, 

Several folks on this list are film camera enthusiasts, and take them on 
their bike rides. I want to give this Nikomat film body away. My 
grandfather gave it to my father in the late 80's, and my father already 
had his collection of Olympus OM film cameras and lenses so he gave it to 
me when I was a teenager. I learn to take photos on it and used it well 
into the new millennium. After I moved to digital in 2005, this body has 
been gathering dust in an old camera bag. In my effort to declutter, I am 
giving it away. It will come with the 50mm f/1.4 lens. 

The camera will need some refurbishment (the shutter seems to be stuck at 
this point). If you are in the Bay Area, come and say hello and take it. 
You will need to cover shipping if you are out of town. I hope it will go 
to someone who enjoys using film camera and might put it to use.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/48213385366/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/48213380701/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/48213430932/in/dateposted-public/

Thanks,
Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] How do you track your mileage?

[franklyn]

I use ridewithgps's app on a phone as a cyclometer as well for navigation (when 
I need it). But I don't use my actual phone. I bought an older Motorola Moto G 
for $20 on eBay and use it as a WiFi only device. Ridewithgps has offline 
navigation feature if you have a subscription. I tend to put my phone and this 
Moto G on airplane mode to save battery when I ride in places with suspect 
reception (the phones battery drains quickly when they are in bad reception 
areas).

You can enter your bikes in the app and choose the one you rode when you save 
your ride. I also keep a old cyclometer on my town bike. You can adjust mileage 
for a bike on ridewithgps. The app also has a feature to let you keep track of 
your maintenance.

Using a cheap ex-phone as the cyclometer has an additional benefit of not 
fumbling with your phone on your bike and accidentally dropping it.

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] ISO: Silver bar-end right-hand shifter pod

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Hi, Everyone,

I broke a silver bar-end shifter pod. It was bent from the bike falling on 
the right side a while ago, and in an attempt to straighten it, I actually 
broke it. I have 3 left hand bar-end pods in my stash but no right hand. 
Ideally, if someone is looking for a left-handed one and have a right 
handed one, then we can trade! But, if you have a spare right-handed one 
and willing to part, that's great, too. If you would like to sell your 
pair, please let me know also. Note: shimano ones won't work, as it has a 
small notch that prevents the silver shifter's washer to mount properly. 

Thanks,
Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: I'll be at Riv and need some suggestions about the local area

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Hi, Roberta,

There are many Bay-Area'ers on this list, so you might get more advice and 
suggestions than you'd like. Since you are asking on the RBW list and going 
to visit Riv, I am assuming that you are OK with biking, which I would say 
is the best way to see the City and the surrounding areas, given the amount 
of time you have. Recently I hosted my family for a week, and I haven't 
driven in the City for a while up until then, and driving and looking for 
parking is highly non-relaxing, especially on a weekend, and especially on 
a nice-weather weekend which we have been having nonstop (and we really 
want more rain). 

I would recommend find a bike to use, and work out a itinerary from there. 
All the major attractions, nature and otherwise, can be reached by bike, 
and you can see many of them in one day (SF is only 7 x 7 miles!). Here is one 
potential route <https://ridewithgps.com/routes/18222421> that hit many 
spots that you can do in a morning. 

I also highly recommend a few spots in nearby Marin County: hiking/riding 
in Mt Tam (biking up old railroad grade 
<https://www.instagram.com/p/BfCR2PXnbHe/?taken-by=franklynwu> or hiking up 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157689192203682>), Pt Reyes 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157668924318049>, 
Tennessee Valley (riding/hiking coastal trail to Muir Beach 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157667332302069>), 
Headlands. These are a little further, and driving may allow you to see 
more of them in 1 day, but definitely bikable if you want to have the 
"local's experience". 

I would say go to Muir Wood on Monday, as traffic on weekends are really 
bad.

Have fun!

Franklyn

On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 5:14:58 PM UTC-8, REC wrote:
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> If this is too off topic, I'm sure the moderator will delete.  I know a 
> lot of you live in the area and would love your input.
>
> Since I'll be flying from PA to S. CA at the end of the month for 
> business, I decided to stop in San Francisco to visit Rivendell.  I'll be 
> arriving on a Sunday about noon, and leaving Tuesday, probably on a 5pm 
> flight out. I'll be flying into SFO, and I can fly out of either SFO or 
> Oakland airport, whichever makes most sense with my schedule.  I'll be 
> renting a car, because I'll need it for some of the trip, but I have no 
> issues using BART when that is more practical.  I'll be staying in 
> Emeryville and that would be my first stop, so I could drop off my bags.
>
> I'm planning on visiting Golden Gate Park (conservancy of flowers, Art 
> Museum) , take a walk in Muir Woods, perhaps Alcatraz, Fisherman's Wharf, 
> and visit Rivendell.  My tastes are more toward nature and museums, but I 
> love the get a feel of the area, so I'd probably just want to "walk around" 
> but I'm not sure where.  I'm open to all suggestions on what to see, when 
> to see it, and how to maximize my time.  
>
> So, with two half days and one full day, are there any suggestions on how 
> to split my time, especially when it comes to potentially getting caught in 
> traffic?   Perhaps Muir Woods on Sunday, SF on Monday?  What is the traffic 
> like--would SF be better on a Sunday (or twice)?  I figure 1/2 day at Riv 
> for the drive up and back and "visit." or should I see what Walnut Creek 
> has to offer?It's probably been 25 years since I've been to SF area.
>
> And, no, I won't be doing any biking.
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta
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[RBW] FS: Nigel & Smyth Lil Loafer bag and free light mounts and fender brackets

[franklyn]

Hi, Everyone,

I have a Riv bag and a few other small parts for sale, as well as a couple 
of items for free (pictures here 
<https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bop/d/sram-9-speed-cassette/6459948187.html>
):

1. Rivendell "Nigel and Smyth" tan canvas Lil Loafer rack top trunksack 
bag. This is an earlier version that opens toward the front of the bicycle. 
Fits perfectly on a small front rack. A little dirty from use but no cut, 
rips on the bag body and the zipper works well. $60 shipped
3. Problem Solver adjustable handlebar end plugs. These are new. $10 shipped
4. Viscount vintage adjustable handlebar end plugs. $7 shipped
8. Light mounts for B dynamo front light, but could work for other dynamo 
front lights. I have more than several. Just pay me postage
9.  Crimp-on fender bracket. Just pay me postage

Contact me off list,
Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] What's the least expensive 650b slick tire?

[franklyn]

Depending on the size. In germany you can buy a Kojak (33mm) for 14 Euro. 
The Big One is less than 25 Euro each, and many nice tires are less than 30 
Euro. But the Pari Moto (gravel king versions or otherwise) are also very 
good value.

Franklyn

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 5:19:10 PM UTC-7, Lee Legrand wrote:
>
> I very used tire on sale from someone. :)
>
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 8:17 PM, lum gim fong <john1...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> No knobs.
>> Minimal tread ok, I guess, like a herring bone.
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[RBW] Re: HubbuHubbuH - First Loaded Tour

[franklyn]

Ken, 

Love the story and those are amazing shots!

Franklyn

On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:33:44 PM UTC-7, Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>
> In hindsight, it may not have been the best conceived plan but I am a firm 
> believer that a bit of naïvety makes for a good bicycle adventure. An open 
> mind, willingness to go-with-the-flow, sometimes a series of weird events 
> comes together to make for interesting life experiences.
>
> Quick string of events leading up to the "accidental" purchase of a 
> HubbuHubbuH tandem: 
>
>- 17 year old daughter tears ACL second time
>- Cancel snowboard/ski trip to Whistler. (Role reversal - daughter 
>skis, 46 year-old dad snowboards.)
>- Impromptu replacement vacation March west-coast road-trip places 
>father and daughter in Walnut Creek 
>- Daughter - Dad best favoritist tandem combo ever takes HubbuHubbuH 
>out for test ride - hooked and instantly regret having not been on 
>pre-order.
>- Place name on "list" for "if there is ever a second run of tandems, 
>I'd be interested."
>- Email to contact Dave at Rivendell that there are a few tandem 
>frames available
>- Call, talk briefly with Dave - how could I *not* order one?
>
> Before ordering the Rivendell, I'd rationalized how good we had it with 
> our old steel Abatrossed Trek T200. My next bike was going to be another 
> Rivendell custom to replace my beloved and dearly departed Quickbeam. I've 
> got parts on the shelf waiting for just the right inspiration, but none of 
> it really what I wanted to use on the tandem. My first foray into 584 
> wheels, I had so little I could use, I've had to spread the wealth among 
> various bike shops near and far.  It's been a bit of a scramble to put the 
> HubbuHubbuH together. Once road-worthy, it's been the bike I've ridden most 
> this year.  LOTS of good miles, ice-cream runs, laughs, and wandering,  
> What a blessing to have a 17 year old daughter that WANTS to spend time 
> with dad, wants to cruise around.
>
>
> In a separate and closely related life thread - my 20 year old daughter 
> FINALLY discovered that she likes to ride a bike. Likes to ride enough to 
> ask dad if maybe his telling of 30 years of RAGBRAI stories warranted 
> giving it a shot.  Time to create something more than the 
> dumpster-find-become college get-around bike... Queue up another new bike 
> purchase and build.
>
>
> With the older sister interested, so much saddle time on the new tandem, 
> one thing led to another and so this was the year.  This was the year that 
> the kids were FINALLY going to join dad on his annual trip to Iowa. 
> Somehow, perhaps by obscuring details, over-selling how much fun it'd be... 
> I managed to convince both girls that the only way to truly experience the 
> *fun* was to do as I have for the last 20 years or so... pack up and ride 
> TO Iowa first, join in the folly of the ride across the state for a few 
> days, then turn back north to get back to Minnesota. Maybe my trying to 
> convince them was equal part trying to convince myself that heading off on 
> an upright-barred cruiser tandem was a good idea...  Fully loaded on a 
> tandem with a kid with arthritis and a torn ACL, what could *possibly* go 
> wrong!?
>
>
> Skip to conclusion... aggressive mileage plans were adjusted. 6 days of 
> riding together, everyone still gets along and there's talk of "next year"
>
>
> The HubbuHubbuH is an amazing bike, I have amazing and patient friends, 
> and I have even more amazing kids.
>
>
> Some photos compliments of my good friend Scott who joined in the fun: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aFk8SBsJMTZNkCpU2 
>
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aPAtr38z-p4/WYANkpcOLrI/E-0/v7eGXD8PNMsECcRb_IGKVgjBKbZ6fHaZACLcBGAs/s1600/Sunset.jpg>
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Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

[franklyn]

And that's why you hoard (and watch eBay). The good thing about rapidrise 
is that given the same vintage, they tend to cost less than the normal rise 
counterparts. The springs don't really wear out (especially when you have 
five bikes) and pulleys are easy enough to source and replace. I also have 
several spares in my bin in case a derailleur gets destroyed on a 
trail/dirt ride.

Franklyn

On Monday, July 24, 2017 at 7:13:28 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>
> On 07/24/2017 09:05 PM, GAJett wrote:
>
> I have a RapidRise on my AHH, with newish (2010) Shimano indexed/friction 
> barcons. Absolutely love them. On my '73 Raleigh Competition I currently have 
> shifters on the downtube, but will shortly return to '70's vintage Shimano 
> barcons (the ones with the inner spring mechanism).
>
> While I still make mistakes with the RapidRise, they are minor and don't 
> bother me (decades riding pre-RapidRise made some habits).  But I really 
> don't expect moving back and forth to be much of a problem. (I make many more 
> mistakes with the twist-shifter on my Bike Friday.)
>
>
>
>
> Ah, but at some point you surely will, because Shimano has abandoned Rapid 
> Rise and gone back to "regular" and when the one you have wears out, this 
> will be you:
>
>
> *She left the web, she left the loom *
> *She made three paces thro' the room *
> *She saw the water-flower bloom, *
> *She saw the helmet and the plume, *
> *   She look'd down to Camelot. *
> *Out flew the web and floated wide; *
> *The mirror crack'd from side to side; *
> *'The curse is come upon me,' cried *
>
>
> *   The Lady of Shalott. *
>
> [Here's looking at you, Bill!]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

[franklyn]

I have two RapidRise and 3 normal rise rear derailleurs. The rapidrise 
bikes have the rear friction shifter mounted on the bar-end, whereas the 
normal rise bikes have friction shifters mounted on the downtube. I have 
never made a "mistake". All five of my bikes have standard-gauge tubing and 
all "plane" more or less. I found that when I am climbing with hard efforts 
the flex in the frame pulls hard enough on the shifting cables that the 
shifters get tucked a little and sometimes end up slipping a gear. I tend 
to tighten the shifters when that happens. The advantage of rapid rise in 
this scenario (which happens every ride I do), is that the derailleur will 
slip toward the lower gear, which is OK on a climb.

I would use all rapidrise except I find that it's noticeably harder (though 
not hard) to shift friction on the downtube with rapidrise. On every shift 
I tend to overshift and then trim it back.

Franklyn

On Monday, July 24, 2017 at 6:05:53 PM UTC-7, GAJett wrote:
>
> I have a RapidRise on my AHH, with newish (2010) Shimano indexed/friction 
> barcons. Absolutely love them. On my '73 Raleigh Competition I currently 
> have shifters on the downtube, but will shortly return to '70's vintage 
> Shimano barcons (the ones with the inner spring mechanism).
>
> While I still make mistakes with the RapidRise, they are minor and don't 
> bother me (decades riding pre-RapidRise made some habits).  But I really 
> don't expect moving back and forth to be much of a problem. (I make many 
> more mistakes with the twist-shifter on my Bike Friday.)
> Cheers!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

[franklyn]

Lesli,

I still build basically with 8-, or 9-speed parts and friction shifters, 
although new Shimano road RD (105, Ultegra) can shift up to 32T now. I have 
several spare 9-speed LX/XT RD (standard or reverse pull) and a Suntour XC 
Pro FD if you need them. 

You can still find 9-speed Ultegra or D/A hubs on eBay, though I haven't 
looked for a front hub for a while as all my bikes have dynamo wheels now.

Franklyn

On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 8:24:08 PM UTC-7, Orc wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 4:17:31 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> “... annoying brake cables”?  I could not disagree more. I think they’re 
>> beautiful!
>>
>
>They aren't a very user-friendly design; those elegant arcs go right 
> over the top of a rando bag, which I could imagine would be pretty annoying 
> at 2am after the first 700k of a nice weekend ride.
>
>
>-david parsons
>  
>
>>
>> https://instagram.com/p/BWqXDxQgPc8/ 
>>
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[RBW] WTT: square taper BB swap

[franklyn]

Hi, Everyone,

I have several square taper BBs but not the right length for my bike! I 
want to see if I can parlay 1 or several of ones I have into the one I 
need. This is what I need:

68 x 116 or 118mm BSC JIS square taper bottom bracket; preferably a Shimano 
UN7x or UN9x, Velo Orange, IRD, or even a SKF.

What I have for trade (all JIS and BSC):

Shimano UN7x 107mm VGC
White Industries stainless steel spindle 122mm (low mileage, light weight, 
and VGC)
Shimano UN5x 113mm and 123mm, both VGC but missing the non-drive-side cup

Thanks,
Franklyn

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Re: [RBW] So many Rivs on the chopping block

[franklyn]

I haven't owned a riv in 5 years. The last one I had was a Bleriot. I 
really preferred the low-trail front end geometry, and Bleriot was too 
stout and didn't have enough tire clearance. I have 5 bikes, and might trim 
down to 3 or 4 one day. All of them use rim brakes and 650b wheels. 42mm 
tires are the skinniest I ride these days. I have two bikes that will take 
up to 55mm knobs with fenders, so clearly I have bikes to ride quite a 
different varieties of terrains. 

Given all that, the benefit of disc brakes for me is one based not on 
functions per se, but on availability of nice rims. There are less than a 
handful of lightweight and well-made 650b rim-brake rims, whereas the 
selection for 650b/27.5 disc-only rims is huge. Given that I have 5 bikes 
to ride and also have horded several spare rims, market forces aren't 
likely push me to switch to disc brakes any time soon, but it's a nagging 
concern for sure.

Franklyn

On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 10:42:04 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> Agree, if that's the only reason for preferring discs, it's a solution 
> in search of a problem. 
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:39 PM, EasyRider <peter...@gmail.com 
> > wrote: 
> > Can you describe the wheelsets/swapping you do? I have a disc bike, and 
> with 
> > high-quality tires in the 650b x 40-50mm range, I don't anticipate 
> swapping 
> > very often, if at all. 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-4, Jeff wrote: 
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Garth <gart...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> ... 
> >>> 
> >>> The disc brake mentions have me wondering aloud, what did people do 
> >>> before disc brakes ? 
> >> 
> >> ... 
> >> They didn't swap wheelsets with different diameters and wildly 
> different 
> >> width tires in a matter of seconds, or at all, with caliper, canti or 
> >> v-brakes. 
> >> 
> >> Arguing that one brake stops better than another in all possible 
> >> situations with all possible riders is a not likely an argument worth 
> >> making, regardless of the brake that you'd represent. 
> >> 
> >> The ability to swap wheel sizes and tire widths in ways that was not 
> >> previously available to me was not my original focus in moving to disc 
> >> brakes, but, it has become a great feature, when selecting the right 
> bike 
> >> frame, to be able to maintain fewer complete bikes with an extra 
> wheelset or 
> >> two, to be able to satisfy a wider range of riding situations. 
> >> 
> >> -Jeff 
> >> Silver Spring, MD 
> >> 
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[RBW] Re: FS: tektro brakes, shifters, swift ind panniers, silver shifters, sam hillborne F/F/HS and more

[franklyn]

Hi, Jeff,

I will take the deore trigger shifters and the half mitts, if they are 
still available.

Franklyn

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 5:47:03 PM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:
>
> I'm getting close to new bike day and ready to clean out some extraneous 
> items. I think I'm advertising friendly prices, but I'm open to suggestions 
> that I might not be. Make an offer. I'll discount multiple items to a 
> single destination.
>
> Pictures here: 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6fp2AmAnZgmLUJTRnJ5NXJGSFE
>
> 1. Tektro R556 brakes, bike worth, used, great shape, reasonable pad left, 
> recessed nut, nut on front is currently a sheldon fender nut, which I hope 
> to keep, but if I can't find a regular nut, you get the sheldon fender nut 
> - $30 shipped
>
> 2. Tektro Novela disc brake calipers and levers - rode these briefly as 
> the stock brakes on a Breezer Beltway - bikes worth - $30 shipped
>
> 3. Swift Industries canvas rolltop panniers, brown and burgundy with high 
> wheeler graphic - $100 shipped
>
> 4. Rivendell Silver shifters on bar end pods - $45 shipped
>
> 5. Shimano Deore trigger shifters, 3x9 - $10 shipped
>
> 6. Campy Centaur FD - $15 shipped
>
> 7. Large Bike Burrito tool roll, brown outside, orange inside - $20 shipped
>
> 8. big pedals, I think these are sunlite - $10 shipped
>
> 9. Rivendell half mitts - these are weird, never used, kicked around my 
> workshop for a few years - $10 shipped.
>
> 10. 60cm Sam Hillborne, frame/fork/headset - I've advertised this here 
> previously as a complete bike and partial build. I ended up pulling the 
> parts off for a different build. I'm the second owner, it's got its share 
> of paint chips and scrapes. There's a paint chip on the seat tube that I've 
> now confirmed to be a small dent - it came to me with this chip/dent and I 
> always thought it just a chip and thought nothing of it. After unbuilding 
> it recently and shining a light down the seat tube I confirmed it's a small 
> depression in the tube. I've ridden this fully loaded touring offroad for 
> many miles and ridden year round as a commuter and long-distance 
> day-tripper . I'll take more pics and post if you like. Sam needs a new 
> home as my bike stable is going to be over-capacity with a new bike 
> expected this week. $450 plus Bike Flights shipping.
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
>

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[franklyn]

Such an interesting exercise. For me, it's really a matter of convenient 
storage and mental space, and how my SO's tolerance has changed throughout 
the years.

When I first got into buying and tinkering with bikes, I owned a 
group-living home and there isn't that much bike storage for 6 people. So 
my wife and I had two bikes each--a nice bike and a workhorse since 
bicycles were our primary means of transportation. 

Even after we moved to our current property which has a whole garage for 
storing bike parts, tools, and bikes, we held that number at five combined 
for the two of us for several years, with I getting a third bike to ride 
around my office. I have gone through many bikes, though I always sold one 
before buying another. 

Then my wife got three more bikes (all vintage Treks) for herself (I 
obviously enabled) within a 12-month period to bring her personal total to 
3, which allows me to feel like I can follow suit. So now our total is 10. 

My wife's preference in riding and bikes seems to be pretty 
narrow--pavement-centric, steel, drop bar, vintage Treks. She has three 
go-fast road bikes: 1) 85' hot-pink Trek 770 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157654383142309>, 2) Ebisu 
Road <https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157622468795773>, and 
a 3) 84' Trek 500 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157654383142259>. She also 
has a 4) 650b'ed 1982 Trek 720 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157627787869627> touring 
bike for our overnight jaunts and camping trips. A 5) 89' Trek 850 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157654383142289>, also 
650b'ed, serves as her daily commute and errand bike nowadays. The touring 
bike and the commuter has dynamo light, fenders, and racks, the other three 
are bare-bone road bikes.

I horse-traded through many bikes, and through that process really have 
discovered my riding preference, and even though all my bikes are fairly 
versatile, they all share certain traits--steel, 650b wheels, low-trail 
front end, racks, fenders, dynamo lighting, relatively thin-tubes, fit at 
least 42mm tires. 

   1. I have a custom Ebisu All-Purpose 
   <https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157615808679968> that I 
   got married on (we had a bike wedding) that still serves as my brevet bike. 
   2. The longest-serving member of the group is a 08' 2nd-gen Kogswell P/R 
   <https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157613524232554> with a 
   porteur rack and bag; it's my workhorse and now has close to 13000 miles. 
   3. 7 years ago I 650b-converted a specialized Sequoia 
   <https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157632662017902> from 
   83' or 84'. I later repainted it vintage pink and turned it into my touring 
   bike. Friend and fellow lister JimG made a custom rack for it. It also has 
   a Kogswell Konversion fork which makes it low-trail
   4. I bought a Rawland rSogn 
   <https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157645025527618> from 
   Bill Lindsay 2-3 years back, and with tires like Switchback Hills and 
   Thunder Burts have really rediscovered the joy of dirt/gravel riding.
   5. This leads me to my newest, not-yet-here bike, which comes to me via 
   a friend. It's a Fitz custom 
   <https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/28252680435/> too big for him 
   that was built around the 48mm tire size with fenders. I can't wait to 
   build it up this Summer. 

I suppose I don't have a true mountain bike, though all of my bikes are 
capable of doing mixed-terrain with the rSogn and the Fitz having wider 
range of suitability. If I were to buy a mountain bike for more rocky/muddy 
stuff, it'd probably be a steel Jones. I have yet able to cross the mental 
line on: disc brakes, suspension, thru-axle, fat-bikes, carbon forks. A lot 
of these lines have to do with my unfamiliarity with repairing and 
maintaining these newer parts, parts interchangeability among all our bikes 
(which relates to bike parts inventory hording/optimization)

Franklyn

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:24:18 AM UTC-7, Bob K. wrote:
>
> Hey Folks:
>
> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but 
> Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder 
> how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist 
> camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>
> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do you 
> own them? 
>
> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will (soon) 
> bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of bikes for 
> a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding enough to 
> justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space

[RBW] Re: Costco runs on bicycle (Was:Front rack w/ basket and panniers)

[franklyn]

Though I have a Costco card, I don't shop there regularly, if at all. But 
it just so happens that the Costco nearest to me is in Richmond, CA and is 
just off the Bay Trail and adjacent to a very popular public dog park. Tons 
of bike/pedestrian traffic goes by Costco all the time.

Every 2-3 months I will purchase a 20-lb bag of California-grown brown rice 
from the local farmers' market, along with whatever grocery haul I have at 
the time. My Kogswell with a porteur rack and bag handles this 3--40lbs 
load 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/10444204264/in/album-72157613524232554/>splendidly.
 
This picture 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/10444390663/in/album-72157613524232554/>
 
shows the P/R with Swift Industries Polaris porteur bag. Currently I am 
using a slightly smaller and more compressible ILE Porteur bag that works 
really well. 

What my setup is not great for is bulky odd-shaped stuff. In that instance, 
I tend to take off the porteur bag and use just the bare rack and bungee 
chords.

Franklyn

On Thursday, March 9, 2017 at 10:22:33 AM UTC-8, Austin ^ wrote:
>
> On the infrequent occasions I need to do a costco run I bring a flatbed 
> trailer, haulin colin trailer pulled by my hillborne. I have one big tub 
> with a lid that takes up ~75% of the deck for "smaller" items and leave 
> bulky things like tp out in the open. I keep a variety of straps and 
> bungees in the tub for whatever configurations are needed. It easily 
> handles loads of around 150 lbs but is rated for much higher, and while my 
> local costco isn't freeway adjacent there is a bit of traffic riding and 
> hills are unavoidable. I can load the trailer with way more stuff than I 
> would normally get with racks/bags/basket and the low center of gravity 
> makes the weight surprisingly not as difficult as expected. Two taillights 
> and a big hi vis triangle in back make the otherwise large red trailer more 
> conspicuous. The only thing like a problem I encounter are the racks at the 
> store - While covered, they're not what I would think of as racks that 
> would accommodate a bike anyone would actually take to shop at costco, 
> requiring some creativity in parking. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[franklyn]

What rim/wheel did the bike shop order to replace your rear wheel? I am 
just curious about what's the "garden variety" rim brake 650b rim for LBS 
nowadays.

Franklyn

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:41:01 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> I took back the Bets! I don't know about these new tires, though. They 
> seem to spit sand everywhere. I test rode it up and down the street and 
> there was all this racket - rocks/sand spitting all over under the fenders. 
> Weird. I don't know anything about these tires, but the shop owner thinks 
> they're terrific, and says they have some flat protection. I miss my old 
> tires. 
>
> I attached some pics of the bike and the tires and one of the old wheel so 
> you can see the cracks around the spokes. There were many that were 
> cracked. Also, check out the pic of the invoice and what the mechanic says 
> about my rims. Haha! 
>
> I met a roadie while I was waiting there. He rides no fewer than 300 miles 
> per week, and 12000+ miles per year though he's currently sidelined with a 
> saddle sore. I mentioned the Brooks and he said he can't possibly because 
> it's waaayyy too heavy but acknowledges they're really comfortable. So, 
> saddle sores it is. He gets new tires every other month at $150 a pop, and 
> buys gels and goops by the armfuls  "because it's too hard for me to eat on 
> the bike." He bemoans how expensive cycling is but calls it his therapy. He 
> thinks I need a road bike. I think he needs Just Ride. 
>
> Anyway, everyone at school has been so worried about me "Hey, don't you 
> ride the bike?" so it will be good to sail onto campus on TBBITW next week. 
>
> Thanks for all your help and advice and funny comments. You light up my 
> bike life! 
>
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Re: [RBW] 650B Tires

[franklyn]

To add a data point, they do for me. I started testing Orange Seal sealant 
in inner tubes on my wife and my commuters that regularly see the worst 
conditions. Regularly, I will pull culprits--glass shards, staples--out of 
the tires. The tires might lose some pressure while the sealant congeals 
around the puncture, but by the time I discover and pump it back up the 
tube/tire is sealed again.

Now just about all our bikes have sealant in the tubes.

Franklyn

On Sunday, February 5, 2017 at 8:23:14 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Patrick:
>
> Orange Seal’s web site only mentions using their product in tubeless 
> tires. Does it work in innertubes as well?
>
> --Eric Norris
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>
> On Feb 5, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
> Carla -- in case it's worth repeating (it may not be) I get the best of 
> both worlds by using Orange Seal or Stan's in my tubes. I ride 175 gram Elk 
> Pass ELs on our goathead-littered bosque dirt and the sealant is, let's 
> say, 95% effective (the 5% being the stop-and-pump and the even more rare, 
> 1X year, tube changeout -- I carry a spare with sealant inside).
>
> OTOH, I've heard good things about the Cazadero.
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Carla Waugh <lhtbik...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> I just put on some Soma Cazadero 650B tires for the goat head season and 
>> so far they have been excellent and no flats. I love my Compass tires but 
>> for now these will be used in goat geadcountry.
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[RBW] Re: Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

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26" tires are plentiful, but 650b/27.5 tires, especially dirt ones, are no 
longer a scarcity. All the major tire makers have multiple lines for multiple 
uses. I was on a online retailer's website and there was more than 150 
different options. And they don't make some newer fancy tires in 26" anymore. 
For example, schwalbe's new Big One/S One tires, which are either 60 or 70mm 
wide, weighs less than 600g per, and have low rolling resistance, are only 
available in 29" and 27.5. 

Just saying

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[RBW] Re: Hunqua tires

[franklyn]

Esteban,

I would definitely recommend the Big Ones if you can fit them. I have 
experience with the 650B version of these tires 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/28462354762/in/photolist-KchGqs-Kzxg6o-KchANA-JA1uc5-Kn81sw-KTSte3-LR8UZ2-jBuHtp-a9rHLi-HLKh1T-HLKcsz-JGZpvH-HLKkTH-JA7Wti-kpEMoc-7q1Ht9-6rrmDL-5GT4Ez-LJQkk-tfGcj/>
 
in the East Bay Hills. They are light and fast rolling. Great for 
mixed-terrains. I changed to Compass SBH because of V-brake interference.

Franklyn

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 6:35:11 AM UTC-8, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
> I've been running Schwalbe Big Ben 50mm front and back and love them. 
>  They roll quickly on pavement and have enough size and tread to take on 
> just about any other surface but deep
>  loose sand.
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WbxLY35RUWY/WF02GEdDfmI/KME/-2-8rCrlNfAP8iRgn8fXMDfAP-MtBvOfwCLcB/s1600/IMG_20140618_105620.jpg>
>
> Marc
>
> On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 10:39:24 AM UTC-5, Esteban wrote:
>>
>> Well, I rode less this year than any time since about 2007. But the rides 
>> I shared were of very high quality. Now that the kids' presents have been 
>> purchased, and I get paid tomorrow (!) I can buy some tires for my 2015 
>> Hunquapillar. I've been running Schwalbe 2.0 and 2.1 Nanoraptors.
>>
>> I was planning on stuffing the biggest tire in there I could - trying out 
>> the Schwalbe Big One 2.35, but has that been replaced? How do they wear? 
>> Was also considering trying the Maxxis Ardent 2.4 skinwall. Thoughts?
>>
>> Esteban
>> San Diego, Calif.
>>
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Re: [RBW] 1st Bombadil on Treasure Island

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One can get on near Ikea in Emeryville

On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 7:57:01 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>
> Where does this path start?
>
> On Sunday, October 23, 2016, Ray Varella  > wrote:
>
>> ...I'm certain the Bay Bridge Troll would give his blessings.
>> I'll have to take a tandem trip just for the chicken and waffles, seems 
>> like a great reason to go.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ray
>> Vallejo CA
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Re: [RBW] Wire crimper in bay area for b secula plus light

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I have a pair of crimper. I am in Berkeley. Let me know if you want to use it.

Franklyn

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[RBW] Re: FS: late 80's KHS Montana mountain bike frameset/headset plus parts

[franklyn]

An update and repost for sale: (pictures 
<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/5792533139.html> of the frameset as 
well as how it's current built up)

I have this frameset or complete bike for sale. I got the frameset partly 
because it's a curiosity, and partly because it was inexpensive. The 
stickers/decals say it's a KHS Montana Pro. I did some research on the 
internet and figured out that it's probably a late 80's KHS Montana, but 
whether the decals and paint are original I am not certain.

Here are some numbers: 21" (~54cm) seat tube center-to-top; 23" (~ 58cm) 
top tube center-to-center; It has 1" top tube, 28.6mm seat tube and 31.8 
down tube. The fork has a set of mid-fork braze-ons for racks. and the 
frameset has front and rear eyelets at the dropouts, as well as at the seat 
stays for racks/fenders. it uses 26.8mm seatpost.

The frameset itself is in very good shape--straight, no ding or dent. The 
paint has some chip in it, but overall the paint is in good shape too. I 
think the faded pink is a nice color for bikes this vintage. A couple of 
interesting details. There is a plate on top of the chainstays and behind 
the bottom bracket shell. It doesn't have a tap for fenders. Perhaps it's a 
mud shield. It also has a pump peg behind the seat tube. Finally, it has 
braze-ons for U-brakes or rollercam brakes. 

I have respaced the rear drop out to 130mm and installed the headset. It 
uses an older standard steerer tube with inner diameter of 21.1mm (or 
.833"). I am including a Sunlite "dirt drop" high-rise style stem as part 
of the sale.

It takes 26" rim-brake wheels. I built it up with 650b wheels as a drop-bar 
touring bike/commuter. I originally intended to use wider 650b tires such 
as the Schwalbe Thunder Burt, but they wouldn't fit. In this configuration, 
it can take 650b 42mm tires (the pictures show it with Panaracer Pari Moto 
42mm tires) with fenders. It can probably take 650b 48mm tires without 
fenders. With 26" wheels, it can take much wider tires. I am selling 
because I got a more purpose-built 650b frameset that can take 50mm+ tires.

Price for frame/fork/headset/stem/U-brake/Titec 26.8mm seatpost/frame pump 
is $95 + shipping (using bikeflight)

Additional components to be sold with the frameset, but not separately (all 
prices do not include shipping):
- Cockpit: Velo Orange Course 44cm handlebar + Origin8/Tektro aero brake 
levers + Suntour barcon shifters for additional $45
- Front regular OR mini V-brakes: $15
- Altus triple crankset (170mm 46/36/26T) + Shimano front derailleur + 
Deore DX rear derailleur: $30
- 650b wheelset: Velocity hub 135mm laced to Weinmann Zac19 rim and Shimano 
LX front hub laced to Velocity Synergy rim $75 
- SKS half frame bag (see in picture) basically new; good capacity; $15

(pictures <http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/5792533139.html> of the 
frameset as well as how it's current built up)

Contact me if you are interested,

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks

[franklyn]

Not to hijack Bob's thread. But I also have a Nitto r14 rack that I can 
sell for the same price. Contact me offlist.

best,
Franklyn

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 11:34:02 AM UTC-7, Bob B wrote:
>
> r14 is spoken for. Platrack is still available ($90 shipped)
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 11:34:53 AM UTC-4, Bob B wrote:
>>
>> Used, all hardware included:
>>
>> Nitto r14 with tombstone (includes free Toplight rear dyno light): $100 
>> shipped 
>> Nitto Platrack: $90 shipped
>>
>>
>> See attached images.
>>
>> Please reply off-list
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[franklyn]

When I read the title of the thread, I thought of this story on 
BikePortland a few years back: 

<http://bikeportland.org/2012/06/28/with-six-kids-and-no-car-this-mom-does-it-all-by-bike-73731>
Mom carrying 6 kids in her bike. 
<http://bikeportland.org/2012/06/28/with-six-kids-and-no-car-this-mom-does-it-all-by-bike-73731>

Best,
Franklyn

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 2:23:19 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I look forward to other photos. Nostalgia follows; bail out now while you 
> have a chance.
>
> Reminiscing about my own elementary school boyhood (Oh! So long ago!), I 
> recall carpooling in rather (at the time; now very much so) declasse 
> Clinton, MD, Prince George's county MD, where we lived for 4 years until my 
> father was transferred overseas. St, John the Evangelist RC parish started 
> its school in 1961, when I entered 1st grade. We carpooled between my 
> father (Renault Dauphine! -- sold the Peugeot 403 hoping to net some cash) 
> swapped transport duties with my best friend's mother (excessively large 
> Irish Catholic working class family) late '50s Ford SW) and another 
> aspiring white collar professional (vague 7 year old recollections of 
> semi-Euro compact and pretty 9 year old babe daughter). 
>
> But what about the setup below? I recall seeing many such transportation 
> arrangements in Bangalore when we lived there, 1st Q 1966 - end of 2d Q 
> 1967. I remember hailing a rickshaw to carry me home from my 2d Form (7th 
> grade) classes at St. Josephs (Jesuit) in Bangalore (the Prods went to 
> Bishop Cotton) -- odd, because usually my father's driver picked me up, 
> next stopping at the local Sacred Heart franchise to pick up my sisters and 
> little bro --at any rate, the skinny old man who pedaled the rickshaw was 
> very irate because he had to pedal me all the way to Palace Orchards, then 
> a dirt-road wilderness some (I guess) 7-8 miles from the school. I recall 
> having to argue with him and chivvy him along as we got further and further 
> from the downtown school. I myself started my long career of bike commuting 
> shortly afterward, when my parents let me ride my pimped Hero rod braked 
> roadster to school, and park it with all the other students' and staffs' 
> bikes in the Bike Shed (where I dangerously kick started the PT Teacher's 
> Vespa, then -- thank God! -- discovered the kill switch before he appeared 
> with bamboo cane in hand). 
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[RBW] Re: What's in Your Cockpit?

[franklyn]

Hi, Eric,

Interesting exercise. I have five bikes, and I have tried various 
handlebars but always ended up using drop bars with aero levers; I have 
dabbled in GPS computers, but now only have simple cyclometers that keep 
track of distance, speed, and time of day. I have cloths or cork bar tape, 
and since all five bikes have dynamo wheels, the front light is sitting 
lower around rack height. On some bikes I have only downtube shifters, some 
bar-end shifters on the right hand, and one bike has mismatched bar-end 
shifters--all of them friction.

This picture 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/9263507866/in/album-72157632662017902/>shows
 
a fairly standard set up for me.

Best,
Franklyn

On Monday, August 29, 2016 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> My Riv Road: Steel, leather, friction shifting ... and a bunch of 
> electronic gear. Even the headlights are electronic. 
>
> What's in *your* cockpit?
>
>
>
> –Eric N
>
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[RBW] Re: RBW Garage Sale scores

[franklyn]

I got a brown Riv sweatshirt, 3 small pink wooly warm T-shirts for my wife, 
several hubs, Altus crankset, silver thumbies, handlebar tape, nitto 
seatpost, and two 650b rims. There were definitely some great deals. Here 
are some photos:

1. Bikes parked just off the garage sale area 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/29239336796/>
2. The scene <https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/29165330162/>
3. My bike with bag full of stuff 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/29165335812/>

Franklyn

On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 4:39:25 PM UTC-7, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> Just curious who found any good deals?
> I always enjoy living vicariously though this win win proposition for 
> local Riv riders and cash equity for Grant and Co.
>
> Ryan "multiple time zones away" Hankinson
> The Mitten State. 
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[RBW] FS: late 80's KHS Montana

[franklyn]

Hi, Folks,

I have this frameset for sale. It's a slight bit of mystery. I got it off 
craigslist because it had some interesting details, it fits me, and it was 
inexpensive. The stickers/decals say it's a KHS Montana Pro. I posted some 
pictures here a month ago and several members have chimed in. It's probably 
a late 80's KHS Montana, but whether the decals and paint are original I am 
not certain.

Here are some numbers: 21" seat tube center-to-top; 23" top tube 
center-to-center; It has 1" top tube, 28.6mm seat tube and 31.8 down tube. 
The fork has a set of mid-fork braze-ons for racks. and the frameset has 
front and rear eyelets at the dropouts, as well as at the seat stays for 
racks/fenders. it uses 26.8mm seatpost (I have one and can add to the sale)

The frameset itself is in very good shape--straight (I have began to build 
it up), no ding or dent. The paint has some chip in it, but overall the 
paint is in good shape too. I think the faded pink is a nice color for 
bikes this vintage. A couple of interesting details. There is a plate on 
top of the chainstays and behind the bottom bracket shell. It doesn't have 
a tap for fenders. One list member thinks it's a mud shield. It also has a 
pump peg behind the seat tube. Finally, it has braze-ons for U-brakes or 
Rollercam brakes. 

I have respaced the rear drop out to 130mm and installed the headset. I was 
about to install the stem when I realized that it uses a less common 
standard steerer tube with inner diameter of 21.1mm (or .833"). After some 
googling, I found that several stems and stem adapters using that standard 
are still being made and can be easily purchased at a modest price. I also 
explored with a local framebuilder to replace the steerer tube to standard 
1" with inner diameter of 22.2mm. It's doable, but the cost of this mod 
exceeds what I paid for the frameset. 

With the academic year starting, work is picking up and I will have a lot 
less time to tinker, so I would like to hand the project off to someone 
else. I paid $80 for the frameset, and paid a LBS re-spaced the rear drop 
out. I additionally bought a new Tange headset and rear U-brakes and 
installed them. But I will sell the frameset/headset/U-brakes for $90 plus 
shipping. I have a frame box, and will use the least expensive possible way 
to ship. 

Here are some pictures of the frameset before the headset/U-brakes were 
installed: KHS Montana 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/albums/72157670499263932>

Let me know if you are interested,

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: 30k Riv Romulus report

[franklyn]

Hi, Joe,

That's a nice anecdote. I keep my mileage, and tried to record when I 
change tires and wheels, but there is so much movement/rotation of parts 
it's hard to keep track. Incidentally, I got my first Romulus in 2004 (and 
second one in 2007) but didn't keep either beyond 2009. Now all my bikes 
are 650b, but I always look lovingly at a Romulus when I see one.

Fun riding!
Franklyn

On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 8:39:39 PM UTC-7, joe b. in portland wrote:
>
> Cross posted to RBW and iBoB.
>
> I'm updating the drive train on my canti-Rom, bought pretty much new as a 
> frame from a Wyoming i-bob in 2005. I realized looking through my 
> maintenance notes that I'm right at 30k miles--hard to believe! It was fun 
> to tally up what's been done over that time, especially since I've mostly 
> left it alone since the initial build. Spoiler alert: simple bikes are 
> really low maintenance.
>
> In 30k including year round commuting in Montana and Oregon, touring on 
> all surfaces, and generally getting around, I've replaced...
>
> 10 sets of tires, mostly paselas
> 10 sets of front brake pads
> 10 chains
> 2 freewheels (though original suntour not worn out)
> 2 sets of bar tape
> 1 front rim
> 1 set of rear pads
> 1 saggy B17 standard
> 0 chainrings (steel, well, I did pull off the original biopace rings)
> 0 cables, shift or brake (yay? yikes?)
>
> Here's to the next 30k, possibly with a 2x10 drive train if it works out.
>
> Best,
> joe
> pdx or
>
> Caveat lector. Sent from a phone.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Olympic Bike Racing, Cobbles, and tire width

[franklyn]

Aerodynamics and weight certainly matter at those speeds for sure. My point 
was that I don't recall whether wide tires suffer measurable aero 
disadvantage in Jan's tire tests or not (or whether it was measurable at 
all). 

On this particular course, the last circuit has two significant climbs, 
where even these racers were riding at speed where aerodynamics become less 
important. Given the slippery and winding nature of the final descent, I 
don't think the determining factor was aerodynamics--it was how well the 
tires can grip so you can maintain speed around the corners. I just think 
for this specific course, changing to a Paris-Roubaix capable bike just 
before the summit (and getting a push by your support staff during the bike 
change) and then down the descent on 30mm tires would probably gain a big 
advantage. If you are a big strong classics rider, that advantage will 
probably stay till the end.

Franklyn

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 12:27:28 PM UTC-7, RJM wrote:
>
> Most of them are on 25-27mm tubulars now. 
>
> Aero benefits at the speeds these athletes are racing at are real, as is 
> weight. You don't wear a skinsuit and have slammed stems because they look 
> cool.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Olympic Bike Racing, Cobbles, and tire width

[franklyn]

On a cobbled course like Paris Roubaix, some pro racers ride 28mm 
tubulars--not 42mm 650b Compass tires, but not 23mm racing tubulars either. 
Pro racers can also change bikes mid-race. Chris Froome changed bike when 
they began the second circuit during the Olymplic men's road race. Given 
what happened to the Men's race a day ahead (when two out of the three in 
the leading group crashed on the descent and the third lost the lead in the 
final meters), I think it is a highly reasonable strategy for the women 
racers to switch to bike sporting 28mm tubulars with lower pressure for the 
descent to maintain speed while staying safe. But none did it, and a racer 
in the lead group crashed again!

Jan did have access to wind tunnel in his early tire tests, not sure if the 
resource is available to him and BQ anymore. I don't recall the wide tires 
being disadvantaged because of aerodynamics in his tests. Jan's premise was 
always that on smooth as baby's face tarmac, skinny and high-pressured 
tires maintain their advantage, but on pavement of everyday (and lesser) 
quality, then the dampening from the wider tires to prevent vibration loss 
win out. I don't think he rides tires only because he likes them, but 
because they offer real performance advantages in the conditions described. 
Having been to Brazil and the very highway that the race was on, I recall 
that pavement quality is uneven at best. I wouldn't be surprised if someone 
riding high-quality 700cx32mm tires can maintain the same performance as 
when they ride 23mm tubulars.

But of course race bikes have to be constructed to fit tires that wide 
(they already do up to 28mm for Paris-Roubaix)

Franklyn

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 11:26:55 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> Well, Patrick, it was a beautiful ride and a very gallant effort... and in 
> defeat she was extremely gracious..I was cheering for her and gutted about 
> the young Dutchwoman Van Vleuten's crash. That's why I  feel bike racing is 
> an epic sport in the truest sense of the word and I still continue to watch 
> it despite all the doping BS...and in the Olympics despite the noise and BS 
>  you still have these profoundly uplifting moments. Maybe the Olympics give 
> us a chance to get in touch with our better natures. 
>
> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 12:23:44 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> This WSJ article by Jason Gay does a great job of capturing the bike race 
>> in a stunningly Rivendelian spirit, as evidenced by the Headline: "Mara 
>> Abbott's Beautiful Ride in Rio": 
>>
>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/mara-abbotts-beautiful-ride-in-rio-1470615782?mod=rss_Sports
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 10:57:11 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Aha, the Olympics -- those things. I forgot about them. Unfortunately, 
>>> no TV ... Am trying to catch glimpses on youtube.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick: I've been watching on NBColympics.com.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] Bay Area WTT: riv Wald Basket Hugh for Medium

[franklyn]

Hi, Folks,

I have a well-used but still in good shape Wald basket (size large or huge) 
that I bought from Riv. I was wondering if there is someone in the Bay Area 
with the same basket in medium size that would want to trade. If your 
basket is newer, I could comp you some cash. I am in the East Bay.

Thanks,
Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] FS/T: Magnic Light; Nitto 34F Big front rack for Nitto R-14 top rack plus cash

[franklyn]

Hi, Everyone,

I have one of these Nitto Big Front Rack 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/28117248050/in/dateposted-public/>. 
I had it for a while and it was sitting in my garage. Today I tried it put 
it on my Kogswell and realized that the rack mounts on hourglass braze-ons 
above the mid-fork braze-on's which the Kogswell doesn't have. While 
P-clamp could be a solution, it's not one that appeals to me. The only bike 
in my fleet that has these hourglass braze-ons is my Rawland, which sports 
a semi-porteur rack from Haulin Colin, and I have a Tubus low-rider rack to 
add pannier carrying capacity if the occasion demands panniers. 

So I am letting this one go. I would prefer to trade it for a Nitto R-14 
top-rack plus some cash. I can also sell it straight-up ($115 plus 
shipping, which should be less than $20 in CONUS), but I prefer the trade. 

I also have a set of first generation magnic light 
<http://www.magniclight.com/index.php/en/>. These were from the initial 
kickstarter and does not come with standlight and are dimmer than the 
second generation ones. But they do work once you set them up properly. I 
am fairly settled with dynamo hubs/light and these become superfluous. $75 
shipped for the pair, including two of these mounting adapters 
<http://www.magniclight.com/index.php/en/shop-en/product/1598-brake-arm-adapter-magnic-light_en>
. 

Contact me offlist if you are interested,
Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: Less expensive 650b alternatives to Compass/GB tires?

[franklyn]

I just responded to a similar question on the 650b group:

1. Schwalbe Kojak. In 650b/27.5 size, it comes in 1.35" width. And these 
tires measure ~ 34mm on Synergy rims. 

2. Soma B-line. I have never seen these measure more than 37mm, even on the 
wide-ish Pacenti SL23 rims.

3. as a replacement for Loup Loup, you can also add the new Pari Moto. They 
have become more robust than the first-gen event tires, and they are pretty 
modestly priced (you can get on for $35 per tire from Boulder, Universal 
Cycles or eBay).

Best,
Franklyn

On Sunday, July 17, 2016 at 12:15:52 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> I have enjoyed mine, but they...are...soexpensive When you add in 
> shipping it comes to like 70+ bucks per tire for the Loup Loups. Love these 
> tires and highly recommend them, though.
>
> So I am looking around to see if there are any similarly built tires that 
> are less expensive out there, in the 30+mm wide range but not wider than 
> 38mm.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Portland

[franklyn]

Love Portland. I was just there, but miss the Rivelo Party by a week. When 
I was there and dropped by, it was closed 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/27865944141/in/album-72157670036366435/>!
 
St John's Bridge 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/27330682643/in/album-72157670036366435/>
 
is so very nice--such a dramatic landmark 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/27330019193/in/album-72157670036366435/>
 
in its own ways, and the views from it 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/27943122975/in/album-72157670036366435/>
 
are pretty awesome!.

Franklyn

On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 10:05:23 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>
> Very nice. Awesome bridge. I'll have to find a way to come to Portland 
> with a bike...
>
> On Monday, June 27, 2016, Eric Norris <campyo...@me.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Some more photos from this weekend’s Portland adventure:
>>
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHskCjfhEe 
>>
>> Riv content: The weekend started with the Rivelo anniversary party:
>>
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHskCewK8H 
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyonly...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
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[RBW] Re: Portland Oregon Coast Willamette Valley suggestion sought

[franklyn]

Thanks for the advice so far. Have folks ridden from the coast (Newport, 
Lincoln City, Waldport) back to the valley (Corvallis or Salem)? Which 
route is good in terms of traffic and scenery?

Thanks,
Franklyn

On Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 8:56:16 AM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:
>
> I really like the Nestucca River Road. It's one of the quietest ways out, 
> a lot quieter than 6 or 26. It does feature the biggest climb, but it's a 
> nice downhill cruise along the Nestucca River to 101. There's also a couple 
> miles of gravel, which scares off a lot of the automotive traffic. There 
> are several BLM campgrounds (and one USFS) along the Nestucca River along 
> the way, too.
> http://www.portlandoregon.gov/transportation/36638?a=316552
> http://www.portlandoregon.gov/transportation/36638?a=316553
>
> Hope this helps!
> -Shawn
>

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[RBW] Re: Portland Oregon Coast Willamette Valley suggestion sought

[franklyn]

Hey Lynn,

Thanks, was there supposed to be a link for the route to the coast and back 
from Forest Grove?

Thanks,
Franklyn

On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 12:00:51 PM UTC-7, Lynne Fitz wrote:
>
> This will get you to the coast and back from Forest Grove.  Getting 
> to/from PDX from there is relatively easy.
>
> Hwy 6 is kind of fun - the summit appears early on, and then it is 
> downhill all the way through forests until the flats outside of Tillamook.
>
> Here are the perms in Oregon; you'll find some useful route suggestions 
> there:
> http://www.orrandonneurs.org/permanents/
>
> On Saturday, May 7, 2016 at 10:07:20 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Folks,
>>
>> My time this summer is a little looser after finishing a big project at 
>> work. I wanted to do a short tour starting from Portland, OR to the coast, 
>> ride down the coast a little, then head inland and north back to Portland. 
>> There are obvious places to stop on the coast before heading back 
>> inland--Lincoln City, Newport, Waldport (I don't think I want to go down to 
>> Florence)--and roads on the map. I am asking advice on:
>>
>> 1. Traffic level: I have done a fair amount of rando events in the Bay 
>> Area and several short tours so I am OK with cars if I have a decent amount 
>> of shoulder and don't have to deal with semi's all the time. But if there 
>> are roads that are particularly low in traffic between the coast and the 
>> valley, that would be good to know. I have 650b fat tires and can ride on 
>> some packed dirt and gravel also.
>>
>> 2. Scenery: it'd be good if the roads are scenic.
>>
>> Once I get back to the valley, probably Corvallis, Albany, or Salem, is 
>> there a good route to ride back to Portland?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Franklyn
>>
>

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[RBW] Portland Oregon Coast Willamette Valley suggestion sought

[franklyn]

Hi, Folks,

My time this summer is a little looser after finishing a big project at 
work. I wanted to do a short tour starting from Portland, OR to the coast, 
ride down the coast a little, then head inland and north back to Portland. 
There are obvious places to stop on the coast before heading back 
inland--Lincoln City, Newport, Waldport (I don't think I want to go down to 
Florence)--and roads on the map. I am asking advice on:

1. Traffic level: I have done a fair amount of rando events in the Bay Area 
and several short tours so I am OK with cars if I have a decent amount of 
shoulder and don't have to deal with semi's all the time. But if there are 
roads that are particularly low in traffic between the coast and the 
valley, that would be good to know. I have 650b fat tires and can ride on 
some packed dirt and gravel also.

2. Scenery: it'd be good if the roads are scenic.

Once I get back to the valley, probably Corvallis, Albany, or Salem, is 
there a good route to ride back to Portland?

Thanks,
Franklyn

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[RBW] Re: Romulus refurbished as 650b

[franklyn]

Gosh,

That bike really reminded me of my first Romulus 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/447923397/in/album-72157600050554321/> 
which I sold several years ago. The headbadge 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/447919568/in/album-72157600050554321/> 
is something that is pretty amazing. Glad to see these are still going 
strong!

Franklyn

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>
>
> I blame Tony DeFilippo; he emailed me and several other area Rivendell 
> aficionados last June about a Romulus frameset that his Bike co-op had for 
> sale.  The size was either a 59 or 61, and the frame was in rough shape. 
>  Rust had pitted the frame in several places.  Not being in the market for 
> another bike, I thanked Tony but denied interest.  However, I couldn't get 
> the forlorn looking Romulus out of my mind.  The  words forlorn and Romulus 
> do not belong together!  After contacting the co-op manager, I went to see 
> the bike and, of course, bought it!  I will digress and divulge that I own 
> two dogs both of whom we adopted from a dog rescue program at a prison.
>
> Not being in the market for a bike, I wondered what to do with the rescued 
> Romulus.  The rust concerned me; I sanded down the egregious cancers and 
> called Keven at RBW.  We talked through the merits and philosophy of 
> beausage.  I like beausage but prefer to be the one who inflicts the 
> wounds.  Keven kindly told me whatever I did to safeguard the headbadge as 
> those were irreplaceable now.  Slowly I formed a plan to resurrect the 
> Romulus as a 650b commuter.  (I had recently unconverted my Riv Road 
> Standard back to 700c. ). I delivered the Romulus to a local automotive 
> body shop for powdercoating in Ford Blue.  I feel Romulus would have driven 
> a Ford!  I then hand painted the head tube in a cream and reapplied the 
> badge and the new decals Keven sent.
>
> If you've read this far you deserve some photos of the project from start 
> to finish: https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157654006187120
>
> After a long ride today I am smitten; I am not sure smitten and Romulus go 
> together either.  It's a bromance!  I didn't know what to expect but I 
> really enjoy the ride!  
>
> Of course now I have n+1 too many bikes...
> Thanks for all the inspiration and know-how so generously provided by so 
> many in this group! And thanks Tony! I owe you...
>
> Safe cycling wishes,
> Erl
>
>

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[RBW] Re: OT- Seattle road trip recommendations

[franklyn]

Hi, Mike,

I am not a Seattle resident but have vacationed yearly in the Pacific 
Northwest for the last three years. I would recommend taking a drive up to 
Anacortes and take the ferry to San Juan Islands. This time of the year, 
the ferry traffic may be OK, but you should check out the online ferry 
reservation for cars just to make sure you can get on the island. If you 
can find rental and/or loaner bikes, you can park your car at the ferry 
terminal in Anacortes and walk on the ferry without worrying about 
reservation. You can also rent bikes on at least the main island.

The great thing about the islands are that they are gorgeous and allow you 
to do a whole host of activities--biking, hiking, kayaking. They are also 
much dryer than the Olympic Peninsula and Seattle. I have read that the 
islands have more than 260 dry days out of a year. The drive from Seattle 
to Anacortes is just over an hour without traffic. And on the way back you 
can drive on the west side of the peninsula from Anacortes back to Seattle.

Here are some photos I took in the last three years. 

San Juan Islands trips 
<https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=60508949%40N00=interestingness-desc_all=1=San%20Juan%20Islands>

Have fun!
Franklyn

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 9:18:19 AM UTC-8, M D Smith wrote:
>
> My SO is headed to Seattle in a few weeks for a work related training 
> session.  I plan on joining her afterwards for a short Pacific Northwestern 
> holiday. 
>
> I am not, unfortunately, going to be bringing a bike, but I hope to try 
> out the bike share when we are in Seattle.   
>
> We are considering renting a car for a few days and exploring farther 
> afield.  I have some questions for the Seattle folks on the list.   
>
> Could anyone offer any route suggestions for a short road trip?  We are 
> tentatively thinking of heading around the Olympic peninsula.  How would 
> that be, weather-wise, in early March?  Would heading somewhere inland 
> (like Mt Rainier) be totally out of the question at that time of year?  Any 
> other suggestions?  We are thinking we will have three days, two nights to 
> work with. 
>
> We are happy just driving around and exploring, maybe some short walks, 
> brewpubs, diners, cheap motels.  Any suggestions, tips, or warnings would 
> be greatly appreciated! 
>
> Please respond directly to bee...@gmail.com  so as not to 
> clutter up the list with OT responses. 
>
> Thanks- Mike, thawing out in Bkln, NY 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Shimano DH-3N72 Dyno Hub Light Recommendation

[franklyn]

On Mark's rack, it certainly seems that it might interfere, but I have had 
no problem using a M12 with the Eyc, mounted properly. See this picture of my 
Sequoia 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/18418579449/in/album-72157632662017902/>.
 
Click on the picture once you are on flickr so you can zoom in. The Eyc 
mounts on the eyelet on the strut with some spacers. 

Here is a picture 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/23575922322/in/album-72157632662017902/>
 
of the sequoia using a IC Fly premium, which is much bulkier than the Eyc 
(but produces 80 lux), it tucks under the rack platform on this custom 
RackByJimG rack. 

The Edelux is certainly competent and beautiful, but not 4 times more 
functional or beautiful than a Eyc or a Fly premium, IMHO.

Franklyn

On Friday, January 29, 2016 at 7:36:36 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> I've never seen one in real life, but the photos of Mark's Rack looked as 
> though a Eyc would interfere with the rack support strut without some kind 
> of bracket.  Riv shows a photo of a Nitto #6 screw mount lamp holder 
> bracket supporting the Eyc lamp, mounted on the support strut.  It doesn't 
> look as though it could bolt to the rack eyelet without some kind of 
> standoff bracket at all.  The upside down Edelux, on the other hand, would 
> fit right in the space available.
>
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> On 01/29/2016 10:26 AM, Anton Tutter wrote:
>
> You're right that a standard Edelux would not fit without a bracket, but 
> the Eyc is so small that with a simple spacer, it will bolt to the eyelet 
> and not stick up high enough to interfere with a bag or basket placed on 
> the rack. 
>
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> Anton
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> On Friday, January 29, 2016 at 8:34:21 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: 
>>
>> Well, except that if you want to mount the light to the rack he has, the 
>> upside down Edelux II is the only logical choice.  It should bolt right 
>> onto that front eyelet.  Anything else is going to require faffing around 
>> with mounting brackets.  Certainly the standard bracket that comes with the 
>> Eyc won't work.  You're probably going to need something like one arm of an 
>> old centerpull brake, something like this:
>>
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>>
>> possibly turned upside down, and it's going to end up stuck way out in 
>> front of the rack, probably leaving the light vulnerable to accidental 
>> impacts.  The upside down Edelux should bolt right to the front rack eyelet 
>> and end up tucked under the rack and largely protected by it.
>>
>> But you're right, it's not cheap.
>>
>>
>> On 01/28/2016 11:15 PM, Anton Tutter wrote:
>>
>> Others have mentioned the Edelux II. It is a sweet light, the gold 
>> standard, but it costs a lot, and if you're just "dyno-curious" and don't 
>> do a lot of nighttime riding, you can't go wrong with an inexpensive B 
>> Eyc. Under $50, and it outperforms lights that cost three times that amount 
>> just a few years ago.  
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/281914048648?ul_noapp=true=ps=82 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Converting a triple into a wide range double

[franklyn]

Single-speed chainring bolts exist off the shelf and work perfectly for 
bolting a single chainring to the spider. 

Franklyn

On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 10:00:57 AM UTC-8, Ryan Ray wrote:
>
> I had a wide range double using the middle and inner positions of my crank 
> set up using bolts which were shaved down to take into consideration the 
> little lip on an outer ring.
>
> A friend is trying to do the same and I was wondering if anyone knows if 
> there are bolts which fit already? Do single speed bolts exist out there 
> which work with outer rings?
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[RBW] OT: fishing equipments and accessories help

[franklyn]

Dear list,

This is definitely an OT post. I am posting because I know some folks here 
are into fishing. My father-in-law passed away recently and left my wife 
and me some stuff to sort through. Among his things are tons of fishing 
equipments--lures, reels, rods. Neither my wife nor I is into fishing so we 
don't even know what we are looking at in some cases. What my wife does 
know is that he used to do some fishing when he was younger but stopped 
because of his disability. But he continued for a while to collect things, 
so many of the items are new and unused. 

What I would like is some advice. Basically an order of magnitude and a 
high-level assessment of what things are. After that we can know what's the 
best way to dispose of them. Ideally, there is someone who lives nearby (I 
live in Berkeley, CA) and don't mind coming over to my garage and take a 
look. If not, I can take some photos of the stuff in time and send to the 
kind folks willing to help me. 

I know that some here are into fishing, and also I have generally a good 
level of trust for people on this list. That's why I am posting.

thanks for your understanding,

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: OT: fishing equipments and accessories help

[franklyn]

I want to add that money isn't the primary motive for us here. My 
father-in-law treasured this stuff and held on to them to the end even 
though his fishing days were long gone. We just want to try to take of 
these things with some care. 

best,
Franklyn

On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 8:50:32 AM UTC-8, franklyn wrote:
>
> Dear list,
>
> This is definitely an OT post. I am posting because I know some folks here 
> are into fishing. My father-in-law passed away recently and left my wife 
> and me some stuff to sort through. Among his things are tons of fishing 
> equipments--lures, reels, rods. Neither my wife nor I is into fishing so we 
> don't even know what we are looking at in some cases. What my wife does 
> know is that he used to do some fishing when he was younger but stopped 
> because of his disability. But he continued for a while to collect things, 
> so many of the items are new and unused. 
>
> What I would like is some advice. Basically an order of magnitude and a 
> high-level assessment of what things are. After that we can know what's the 
> best way to dispose of them. Ideally, there is someone who lives nearby (I 
> live in Berkeley, CA) and don't mind coming over to my garage and take a 
> look. If not, I can take some photos of the stuff in time and send to the 
> kind folks willing to help me. 
>
> I know that some here are into fishing, and also I have generally a good 
> level of trust for people on this list. That's why I am posting.
>
> thanks for your understanding,
>
> Franklyn
> Berkeley, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: What's in your garage?

[franklyn]

We are a bikish family also, and I might be the exception to the group as 
my spouse has more bikes than I do. I used to have 3 Rivs, but currently 
have none: I went 650b 6 years ago and hadn't owned a 700c bike since.

Here is the line-up:

1. 2009 grey-blue Ebisu All Purpose 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/16845397860/. I got married on 
this bike, and it's my go-fast rando bike. It has 650b x 42mm tires, 
fenders, dynamo wheel/light, front rack, and boxy rando bag. It's 
definitely my best-riding bike
2. 2007 Ebisu Road 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/9441208828/in/album-72157622468795773/.
 
This is my wife's alpha bike 1. The burnt pumpkin color is really 
beautiful. Lightweight steel bikes for her to climb all day.
3. 1985 Trek 770 https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/18971393375/. 
Reynold 531c throughout; this is my wife's alpha bike 2. Recently acquired 
and she got it for the color. This one was built by Tim Isaac when Tim was 
a brazer for Trek. Like the Ebisu Road, it has A23 rims with Grand Bois 
Cerf 28mm EL tires. Both of her alpha bikes are around 20 lbs
4. Rawland rSogn https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/14742810331/. I 
got this from Bill L here on the list. Very pliant ride and tons of 
clearance for fat tires. It also has a haulin colin rack and a Swift 
Industry front bag. Dynamo wheel and light also. This it the only 
fenderless bike I have (not counting my wife's bikes)
5. Kogswell P/R Mark II 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/14853817495/in/album-72157613524232554/.
 
This was the bike that convinced me to go 650b, and now paired with a 
Roseland porteur rack it's what I ride everyday for transportation, 
errands, grocery shopping, and occasional bike camping.
6. 1982 Trek 720 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/19948770296/in/album-72157627787869627/.
 
it used to be my wife's daily bike. But she is going back to school and UC 
campus is very bad for nice bikes. Even if it doesn't get stolen it can get 
banged around by mindless 20-year-old. Now it serves as my wife's 
touring/camping/winter riding bike. Fendered, dynamo'ed, 650b'ed
7. 1984 Specialized Sequoia 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/19974968225/. Painted Vintage Pink 
and converted to 650B with canti-post added and uses a Kogswell Konversion 
low-trail fork. Set up as a rando bike right now and reside at my office. 
8 1983 Trek 500 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/18974426931/in/album-72157654383142259/.
 
Reynolds 501 tubings. This is my wife's third road bike. She bought this 
herself without my help. The paint is in great conditions. My wife is still 
forming a narrative about the purpose of this bike in our collection.
9. 1989 Trek 850 https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/18350681233/. To 
avoid her Trek 720 getting stolen or banged up, we got this frame on ebay 
for my wife to ride to school and around town. It didn't come with a fork 
so I got a road fork for $10 from the local bike kitchen. The original 
U-brake studs actually work (barely) with 650b wheels, so it has them, too. 
My wife has requested to switch the Jitensha bar to drop bars (which I 
complied) because she doesn't want to ride like a grandma.

(does anyone else see a pattern with my wife and 80's Trek?)

Finding space to store this bike is a bit of an issue. Lining up spare 
parts--tubes, tires, tools, bags, etc.--for all the bikes is also a 
headache sometimes. I tried gently to ask my wife to lose one but then 
conceded that it would be futile to do so.

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 9:39:56 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 Well, I'll stick to my bikes only.
 56cm Proto-Bombadil in clear coat
 59cm Legolas, copper
 '90s Ritchey Swiss Cross
 early '00s Calfee Luna Pro
 '85 Merckx Corsa, converted to 650b and wearing Compass Loup Loups
 '70s Eisentraut Limited (L'Eroica bike)
 '70s Gazelle Champion Mondial (could be another L'Eroica bike)
 Niner Air9, rigid single speed mtb
 '93 Bridgestone MB3 with Wald basket

 Yes, I like race bikes.

 jim m
 wc ca


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[RBW] Re: Need advice for avoiding embarrassing Brooks saddle stain...

[franklyn]

Hopefully this doesn't hijack the thread too much. I also ride with regular 
shorts, but now that I think about it, they are all dark colored. One 
exception was the butternut squash colored MUSA knickers, but they were 
never stained by leather saddles.

My question for Zach is on riding around yellowstone national park. My wife 
and I are thinking about visiting next summer, and are considering bringing 
our bikes. Are there pockets of nice riding or are the roads simply too 
busy with tourists in cars?

thanks,
Franklyn

On Sunday, July 26, 2015 at 2:17:27 PM UTC-7, Zach Duval wrote:

 Also, ride report and photos: last ride in the Yellowstone Valley, 35 
 miles, before a relocation brings me into northwestern MT. Cut the basket 
 off for this ride and very much enjoy the unhindered steering (and will be 
 doing so for exploratory excursions around the new locale for the next few 
 weeks).


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-utcF-AL7IBU/VbVOSeFJKgI/ACg/rRCIWmCwSas/s1600/Facebook-20150726-031239.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3QSnP3t8GYM/VbVOYMscvEI/ACo/0C5vbIOLpqk/s1600/Facebook-20150726-031250.jpg


 On Sunday, July 26, 2015 at 1:36:41 PM UTC-6, Zach Duval wrote:

 I cycle. I cycle with a comfy, well-broken-in Brooks on my Sam, and due 
 to the comfortable nature of this setup, I cycle in my day-to-day shorts. I 
 sweat while cycling longish or hardish rides, and enjoy such rides. 
 However, I discover afterwards that I'be been left with a saddle-shaped 
 brown mark on my rear. 

 I here turn over my embarrassing predicament for the wisdom of Rivfolk. 
 Any advice? 

 Zach generally seeking overall good hygeine/cleanliness Duval 



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[RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel

[franklyn]

Yeah, and people are criticizing Nibali's choice for attaching the group at 
that time. I have never raced anything in my life, but am fond of the idea 
of the technical trial described by Jan Heine in the past. I feel like the 
pro-bicycle race should have a much stronger element of technical 
trial--kind of like formula one racing, where bicycle design and setup 
should be a big component of the competition. A mechanical or crash is a 
testament of a rider or a team's choice--most of the time at least, and 
that should be part of the whole package. I was disappointed that none of 
the other big favorites went with Nibali when Froome had the slight 
mechanical. If they had gone with him, it would have been much harder for 
Froome to latch back on since he only had one teammate left, and the rest 
of them can collaborate for the rest of the way to eek out a big advantage, 
perhaps even unseating froome. That would have been so much more exciting!
Franklyn

On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 10:51:01 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:

  I was in the UK when TdF began, so I became accustomed to watching it 
 live in the afternoon. When we returned nearly 2 weeks ago, I bought the 
 NBC app and have been enjoying the Tour. I'm not a big racing fan, but I 
 like Froome and especially Nario Quintana and am rooting for a Latin 
 American champion. Quintana certainly looks more like a healthy human being 
 than the other riders.

 Anyway, for those watching today (no spoiler on the outcome here), you may 
 have seen Froome stop and get off the bike for a mechanical problem at a 
 critical point. Here's the report from today's Telegraph: ...launched 
 his attack after Froome suffered from a mechanical problem, whereby a stone 
 became caught up in his wheel.

 Heh, the proverbial pebble caught in tight clearances!? Here's to plenty 
 of clearances and Grant's wisdom :)
 -Esteban
 San Diego, Calif.


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[RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel

[franklyn]

Unfortunately (or fortunately from Froome's perspective), not very much. 
That's why I was disappointed that other riders didn't make this a bigger 
deal than it is. Wouldn't it be great if he'd actually lost a lot of time 
because of that stuck pebble to cause a big stir about tight tire clearance?

I doubt this would do anything to the thinking of the racing segment of the 
bike industry

On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 12:38:25 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:

 A race bike has certain appeal

 Until stopped with a clatter and squeal

 Oh what would he give

 For a wide clearance Riv

 When a stone caught up in his wheel?


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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.

[franklyn]

I owned both the Romulus 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/2134565361/in/album-72157603538257284/ 
(which is a twin to the Ramouillet) and the Bleriot 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/5396238348/in/album-72157625675713501/.
 
I looked through my pictures and they represented two slightly different 
phases of my bike preferences. I was transitioning away from racing bikes 
and the Romulus was my first foray into into functional steel bikes, and it 
was an open-wheeled club rider relatively un-enhanced by luggages and 
fenders. I got the Bleriot after I started riding brevets and it was 
racked, bagged and fendered from day 1. However, I find the handling, 
especially on descents to be pretty similar between the two. I don't know 
if tubing specs are similar. Bleriot could take fatter tires (I rode with 
41mm fatty rumpkins) and that might have a hand in how I felt on the bike 
versus the Romulus.

On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 12:33:20 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 1. If you have owned both, what are the diffs in ride quality?

 2. How does the 700c or 26 wheels make it feel different than the 650b 
 Bleriot?

 3. Front loads. Do they both carry them well?


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Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

[franklyn]

I have ventured into non-drop bars--moustache, albatross, Sparrow, Jitensha 
bars, I find using non-drop bars keeps me in one back position and 
compresses my lower back. This is not an issue for short distance, but I 
really need to stretch my back out more (think downward facing dog). My 
wife, who rides as much as I do, is of the same opinion (after commuting on 
a 89 Trek 850 with Jitensha bar, she goes back to riding her bell-lap 
equipped 82 Trek 720 and said that it was much more comfortable). So all my 
bikes have drop bars, even my porteur that has a very large porteur rack 
and a large porteur bag (the Swift Industries Polaris). The fours different 
bars on my bikes are Nitto Randonneur (Jitensha version), Nitto Dirt Drop, 
Nitto Noodle (46cm), and Velo Orange Course bars.

Even for short distances I prefer them over non-drop bars.

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 11:28:13 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

  Is it worth pointing out that drop bars, even more so than upright bars, 
  come in a wide variety of sizes and shapes, and that the details of 
  setup matter a great deal? 

 I've tried a lot of bars.  And, as I always carry at least my Park Y allen 
 wrench with me, am not shy about readjusting to find the best fit for me.

 After many years and many miles I have found that Albas are a great fit on 
 my touring bike, Jitensha flat bars for commuting, and Nitto M176 for no to 
 lightly loaded road riding.

 Certainly I am happy enough with my configuration to suggest others give 
 it a try.  No skin off my teeth if someone goes a different direction.


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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville and Ostrich bags

[franklyn]

The Ostrich bag has also been claimed pending payment. Thanks!

On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 4:38:57 PM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:

 The small trunksack has been claimed pending payment. thanks

 On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 7:30:22 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:

 The XS saddlesack has been claimed. Price reduced for the two remaining 
 bags 

 Trunksack is now $75 shipped, and the ostrich bag is $90 shipped 

 Best, 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville and Ostrich bags

[franklyn]

The small trunksack has been claimed pending payment. thanks

On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 7:30:22 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:

 The XS saddlesack has been claimed. Price reduced for the two remaining 
 bags 

 Trunksack is now $75 shipped, and the ostrich bag is $90 shipped 

 Best, 
 Franklyn

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[RBW] FS: Sackville and Ostrich bags

[franklyn]

The XS saddlesack has been claimed. Price reduced for the two remaining bags

Trunksack is now $75 shipped, and the ostrich bag is $90 shipped

Best,
Franklyn

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[RBW] FS: Sackville and Ostrich bags

[franklyn]

Hi, Folks,

I have 3 bags for sale:

1. Sackville 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/18658538249/in/dateposted-public/ 
olive small trunksack 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/18844694235/in/dateposted-public/; 
excellent conditions; very clean overall; minor stain inside 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/18839593822/in/dateposted-public/ 
from gel-food; cleaned with rubbing alcohol; very little use; $80 shipped 
CONUS 
2. Sackville 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/18818462876/in/dateposted-public/ 
olive XS saddlesack 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/18222127414/in/dateposted-public/; 
excellent conditions; very clean overall; very little use 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/18844729135/in/dateposted-public/; 
$50 shipped CONUS
(buy both for $120 shipped CONUS)
3. Ostrich F-104N front boxy handlebar bag 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/17081423524/in/dateposted-public/; 
vintage pink; brand new; never used; information on SOMA's website 
http://store.somafab.com/osfhabagcr.html; $90 plus shipping

Contact me offlist. Trade possible; i am interested in a VO decaleur kit.

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: fs: 59cm rivendell all-rounder.

[franklyn]

That's an amazing looking bike! Someone closer to you than me (all the way 
on the left coast) will probably snatch this up quickly.



On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:08:34 PM UTC-7, sasha eysymontt wrote:

 FS: Curt Goodrich built and Joe Bell painted Rivendell All-Rounder. 59cm 
 c-t seat tube, 57.5cm c-c top tube. Currently set up as a porteur with 
 700x42 Grand Bois Hetres and fenders -- definitely the fattest tire you can 
 fit with a fender.) Bike was built to take either 26 knobbies or 650b, and 
 was the first 650b bike built for Rivendell -- this was Curt's personal 
 bike. More rackmounts than you can shake a stick at. I tried to fit 650b x 
 2.0 Pacenti Quasimoto knobbies but it's only like 1mm of clearance at best 
 in the rear sans fenders.  

 The paint is really beat up/chipped, but no dents and the frame is 
 straight with no rust. Fantastic riding bike, and it's been a real friend 
 to me -- I'm sad to see it go.  Only reason for sale is I'm taking delivery 
 of a custom bike that serves the exact same purpose.

 Saddle height as shown is ~76cm. The bike is really, really great riding, 
 and I'm (inevitably) going to regret selling it cause it is so fun, but... 
 yeah. I'd vastly prefer to sell locally.  Shipping would be at actual 
 cost -- I'll likely need to split it into two boxes for shipping due to the 
 rack and fenders, but can certainly do so.  I'm happy to meet people within 
 ~100mi of NY to do in-person delivery as well.  I'm in Westchester County, 
 NY.  

 The complete bike as built (Nitto albatross bars Pearl stem, shellac'd 
 bars with Paul thumbies and Mafac city brake levers, DA post, Rolls saddle, 
 TA Zephyr triple, Phil bottom bracket, polished Paul touring brakes, 
 chromed Soma porteur rack, Ultegra derailleurs, pedals, etc.) is for sale 
 in two configurations.

 If you want a non-dynamo wheelset (Shimano LX hubs to Velocity rims) I'll 
 sell it for $1750. If you want it with the fancy dynamo setup (Chris King 
 rear/Schmidt SON front to Velocity Synergy rims and a Schmidt Edelux 
 headlamp) I'll sell with both sets of wheels /and/ the light for $2300.

 Full photos of the bike here: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/sashae/sets/72157633142551928


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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for rear derailers?

[franklyn]

I currently don't own a riv, but since my first riv, I have used mainly 
Shimano 8- or 9-speed mountain derailleurs--LX 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/6273554829/in/photolist-6dx8L2-a9rHLi-eDc4Nn-4fCcV4-rPkHLw-g4GZwD-aynBhr-FzJ4T-nSkyyk-aXPjzp-d8jqCo-d8jqiU-aww51X-8eH1ex-5mr8wL-eDc3sB-dZnguZ,
 
XT 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/8525470981/in/photolist-a9rHLi-eDc4Nn-aww51X-6dx8L2-4fCcV4-5mr8wL-eDc3sB-g4GZwD-aynBhr-FzJ4T-8eH1ex-dZnguZ-nSkyyk-d8jqiU-aXPjzp-d8jqCo-rPkHLw,
 
or XTR 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/14353133579/in/photolist-nSkyyk-aXPjzp-4fCcV4-aXPkjx-5YwXkL-FzJ4T-aXPmaa;
 
both short https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/16846702309/ and long 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/6538850945/in/photolist-nSkyyk-aXPjzp-4fCcV4-aXPkjx-5YwXkL-FzJ4T-aXPmaa
 cage; 
regular or top normal They are really reliable and easy to adjust, and they 
can be gotten at a very reasonable price on eBay or on the various internet 
forums--like this one! I also have a couple in my stash as back-up in case 
one of them breaks. 

Franklyn

On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 8:34:37 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 I'll start.
 I use a SUNXCD rear derailer with 8-speed cassette and 8-speed chain with 
 Silver Shifters.


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[RBW] Re: Perfect number of bikes = N?

[franklyn]

Currently I am at 4--Ebisu All Purpose 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/16845397860, Rawland rSogn 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/14353125079, Kogswell P/R 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/14667186860, and the 
650b-converted Specialized Sequoia 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/9260450680. 

Berkeley is too hot for nice bikes so the Kogswell is used primarily as an 
around-town errand bike, as it is fitted with the most complete lock 
solution and also least attractive. The Sequoia stays at my office where I 
spend 2-3 overnights every week and rides it while I am there. Both the 
Sequoia and the P/R gets touring duties. I have split my brevet on the 
Ebisu, Sequoia, and the rSogn the last several year. All these bikes share 
several traits--650b wheels, wide tires, low-trail front end, thin-ish 
tubings, and front racks and bags. There is certainly overlap, but the way 
they are set up end up defining their respective uses.

It has been a really busy 3-4 years and it will stay busy for another 1-2 
at least, so now I just want to go out and ride any of them.

Franklyn


On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 8:44:35 PM UTC-7, Mike Shaljian wrote:

 Nah man, an Atlantic with 2.25 tires is not fat enough! You need to try 
 the tubeless joy of 29+! It's fat but fast, for serious. 

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[RBW] Re: Manny/many Rivs in PDX

[franklyn]

Looks like a lot of fun! My wife and I will be visiting Portland in 5 
weeks, will sure to check out the new shop!

Franklyn

On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 8:05:30 PM UTC-7, velomann wrote:

 Manny visited and brought the sun with him. He handed over his Nitto 
 Campee rack. There was riding, kids, coffee outside, donuts, food carts and 
 beverages. And many Rivendells. Three (!) Cheviuts in 3 sizes, a Homer, an 
 Atlantis, a Hillborne. Lots of other really useful bikes. We visited the 
 soon-to-open, long-rumored, ideally-located, Rivendell bike shop - Rivelo. 
 Pics here: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/sets/72157649717027563

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Readers and Catalogs

[franklyn]

Hi, Folks,

I have some old readers, magazines, and catalogs for sale:


1. Rivendell Readers #32 - #40 (9 issues);

2. Rivendell Catalogs (2); Fall Winter 2004/2005 and Summer 2004; and the 
Atlantis brochure

3. Adventure Cyclists 9 issues: Jul/Aug 2007, Nov/Dec 2007, Jan through Jul 
Aug 2008;

How about $20 (shipped CONSU) take them all?

here is the link to the local CL 
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bop/4863110578.html:

Best,
Franklyn
Berkeley, CA
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Ram/Roadeo/Hilsen Frame (ready to take the Riv plunge!)

[franklyn]

Sorry to hear that, Nick,

About 10 days ago, I also lost a bike 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157650031736931/ to theft 
under similar circumstances. I left the bike in my back yard and ran into 
my apartment to grab something. 5 minutes later, it was gone. It was a 
enclosed yard, also.

I hope you can recover it somehow. I am still looking for mine.

best,
Franklyn

On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 8:03:38 AM UTC-8, Nick Ybarra wrote:

 Unfortunate update:  

 So, one of my bikes was stolen yesterday.  It was in my backyard not 
 locked up to anything, so pretty much my fault.  I put too much faith in 
 the 10 foot tall privacy fence and the fact that the bike wasn't clearly 
 visible.  But yeah, in my 14 years of riding, this is the first time, and 
 it's way more aggravating than I'd imagined.  I'm no longer looking to buy 
 a frameset for the time being.  I'm looking to punch something really 
 hard... =\

 On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 9:28:22 AM UTC-6, Nick Ybarra wrote:

 Bill M., I tried to jump on that, but someone beat me to it!

 Dave, I'd like to keep the 912 as it is: a wonderful, fairly zippy 
 commuting bike w/38c tires.  For road riding, I'm looking to use 30-32c 
 tires.  I'm fairly light (140 lbs.), and I feel like anything wider than 
 that would be overkill.  Plus, I already have a great 700c wheelset all 
 built and ready to go.  

 Thanks for the helpful words and encouragement, all.  I'm pretty excited 
 for to hopefully try out a new ride soon!

 On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 7:39:49 PM UTC-6, Dave Johnston wrote:

 For faster lighter riding you might be better off with the 912. The 650b 
 wheel will have a lighter feel than a fat 700c. I have a Miyata 310 in 700c 
 and it feels as good as the Ram. A rodeo might be zippier, a Hilsen is more 
 toury.

 -Dave

 On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 11:14:13 AM UTC-5, Nick Ybarra wrote:

 Howdy all,

 About a year ago, I bought a 650b Miyata 912 conversion off this list 
 from Bill Lindsay (thanks, Bill!).  Since then I've ridden the heck out of 
 the bike and really love it for commuting and bike camping.  See here for 
 some good action shots of the bike:  


 http://theradavist.com/2014/12/escaping-black-friday-bicycle-camping-bourbon-black-coffee/#
  
 http://theradavist.com/2014/12/escaping-black-friday-bicycle-camping-bourbon-black-coffee/#45
 34

 http://theradavist.com/2014/11/skipping-town-halloween-go-bicycle-camping/#24

 So, after a year, I'm fully drinking the Riv-style Kool-Aid.  I think 
 I'm ready for my first Riv for faster, lighter road riding.  I'm looking 
 for a 60cm Ram or Hilsen or a 59cm Roadeo.  I'd prefer a 
 frame/fork/headset 
 since I have nice Campy 10 speed parts ready for a build, but would also 
 consider a complete bike.  Anywho, just let me know if anyone has anything 
 available.  Cheers!

 -Nick 



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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[franklyn]

I have neglected my bikes and not ridden very much the last 6 months. I 
have a pile of projects:

1. building a dynamo hub wheel for my 650b ebisu. The old synergy 36h wheel 
was permanently repurposed for my rSogn. I have A23 rim, SON20r hub, and 32 
spokes ready to go. I also have new EL Hetres and XTR Ti 8-speed cassettes 
ready to mount to the wheelset (the rear wheel is a 9-speed dura ace hub 
with matching rim). A new front LED light is on its way also. Currently the 
Ebisu has Magnic light on it, but those will move to a different bike. I am 
getting ready for the brevet season!

2. Change the cantilever brakes on the rSogn to V-brakes. While I never had 
problem with canti squealing on my other bikes, this bike with canti has 
given me a lot of problems. I have decided to move to V-brakes to get a 
little more braking power and quiet it down. I have two other bikes in my 
stable already using V brakes

3. Replace worn brake pads and tires, if needed on all bikes as we have had 
some serious rain (and hope to have more) in the Bay Area after 3 years of 
dry winters.

4. Clean all my bikes.

Hope I will be able to get to all the projects!

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA



On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:37:11 AM UTC-8, ascpgh wrote:

 Riding, besides my commutes, get a bit scant from here on out through 
 winter. The season, the holidays, more deliberate prep for a trip in the 
 conditions, plenty of things distract from just a nice ride but I realize 
 that at this time every year I always seem to contemplate a bike project to 
 go with the anticipated springtime, fruition or not. It's biking fun for 
 the extra bandwidth.

 My project is a low trail, 650b wheeled, all-around bike made with a 
 lively tube set (versus sturdy for touring) with drop bars, center pull 
 brakes, generator hub, LED lighting. All on a budget recognizing the value 
 of experience, unlike the box bike/mass market interpretation, handmade 
 wheels versus machine made ones as an example. I am reading and including 
 many posting subjects and items in this project and admit that may not 
 reach reality, but it's fun to have on the drawing board.

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh


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Re: [RBW] Re: Andy and family ride.

[franklyn]

I am sorry that I will miss you guys when you are down here. Have fun!

On Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:09:56 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Be mindful of the wind on that last one...

 On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 I don't mean to imply that kids are required to come on this. Would love 
 to hang with kid-free folks as well. Just ask you to be patient for rock 
 throwing, stick whittling, and spitting off the bridge type breaks.


 On Friday, November 21, 2014 1:10:08 PM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 Looking forward to this. Would be awesome if there were other kiddos 
 along. My spawn are 6  7, but their energy goes to 11. We'll be on a big 
 dummy.  
 --Smitty

 On Friday, November 21, 2014 12:36:38 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Good buddy Andy and family(kiddos and wifey) are down for thanksgiving 
 week. Doing a family related ride on Sunday. Meeting at the ferry 
 building, 
 10am. Pretty much sightseeing and stopping for the kiddos. 

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Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback Rollcall

[franklyn]

I thought seriously about doing it in 2015, but I absolutely have to be at 
work on the start date, so I have to miss it again this year.

Though i could do it by myself, but joining the group is a big part of the 
fun.

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

On Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:27:44 PM UTC-8, AaronY wrote:

 I'm starting to think serious about it as well.  Probably will take 4-5 
 days, too. 

 Btw, thanks Mike for the info/opinions about Hetres on the OO last time.  
 That's useful.  

 Aaron Young
 The Dalles, OR

 On Sunday, November 16, 2014, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com 
 wrote:

 I'm hoping to be there.  Probably take 4-5 days.  I really want to go at 
 a different time from the dog-n-pony show if possible.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

[franklyn]

Taube's book just gave me, and just about every Japanese, Korean, Chinese, 
Thai, East Inidan, and Vietnamese person an excuse to ignore Grant's new 
book, since all of our ancestors mainly ate grains--mostly rice, and never 
seemed to exhibit pandemic obesity and the chronic diseases that come with 
them. I am really glad about it since I am a vegan for other reasons. 

so glad...

Franklyn

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:43:43 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Deacon will answer as well, in his own inimitable manner, but the answer 
 is obvious:  *because they are genetically predisposed to be that way*  

 Gary Taubes talks about Japan specifically in his writing.  There's no 
 conflict or contradiction or controversy about Japan.  

 On Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:36:30 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Patrick: how do you explain the Japanese? They are notorious for 
 longevity, low chronic ailments, and a diet low on bacon and steak and high 
 on rice.

 This is a serious question, not a challenge.


  

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

[franklyn]

Wait, didn't the irish mainly subsist on potatoes, or is that a myth? If 
they did, did they have a obesity epidemic, or was the life expectancy so 
short that most folks died of something else before they got fat?

Wait, what's the life expectancy of our paleo ancestors? 

Franklyn

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 1:05:43 PM UTC-8, franklyn wrote:

 Taube's book just gave me, and just about every Japanese, Korean, Chinese, 
 Thai, East Inidan, and Vietnamese person an excuse to ignore Grant's new 
 book, since all of our ancestors mainly ate grains--mostly rice, and never 
 seemed to exhibit pandemic obesity and the chronic diseases that come with 
 them. I am really glad about it since I am a vegan for other reasons. 

 so glad...

 Franklyn

 On Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:43:43 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Deacon will answer as well, in his own inimitable manner, but the answer 
 is obvious:  *because they are genetically predisposed to be that way*  

 Gary Taubes talks about Japan specifically in his writing.  There's no 
 conflict or contradiction or controversy about Japan.  

 On Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:36:30 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Patrick: how do you explain the Japanese? They are notorious for 
 longevity, low chronic ailments, and a diet low on bacon and steak and high 
 on rice.

 This is a serious question, not a challenge.


  

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Re: [RBW] WTT/WTB - Pauls Brakes for your Marks Rack or Cambium - WTB Tan Medium Shop Sack

[franklyn]

In my experience, the 4-strut mounting 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/7617926224/in/set-72157627342403464 
is much more secured and stable than the two struts plus the diving board. 
Using the struts at fork crown also cleans up the area around and under the 
brake holes for less interference with brakes, etc. 

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:31:49 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:

 Tim,
 For sure two struts to mid fork fork braze ons and the diving 
 board...although I DO have top of the fork mounting bolts too and have been 
 considering trying the 4 strut boogie. 

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[RBW] Re: Brooks and Rivet saddles for sae

[franklyn]

sent an email; interested to buy at least one saddle.

Franklyn

On Friday, September 12, 2014 5:49:23 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:

 I have 3 Brooks B17Ti's for sale. They are broken in but have not been 
 damaged from weather or abuse. $70 plus shipping each.
 I also have three Rivet Pearl, steel railed saddles for sale , all in 
 excellent shape. $60 plus shipping each.
 I have one Rivet Pearl, Ti rail , excellent condition. $75 plus shipping.
 If interested, I can e-mail pics.
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[RBW] Re: Stolen S. Hillborne reunited with owner

[franklyn]

When I was getting married, I considered a Tungsten ring, then the ring 
designer told us that the only draw back of Tungsten is that it's very hard 
to cut, so if you break your finger somehow, it would be extremely 
difficult to get the ring off. I went with recycled gold instead.

How about using tungsten as the U-lock material?



Franklyn

On Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:07:04 AM UTC-7, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro 
wrote:

 Granted, an angle grinder is going to win.  But.  I don't park on NY, 
 Chicago, or LA city streets.  I do park at a public rack on the New Haven 
 campus where I teach a course.  I have an Abus mini-U lock that I use 
 frame-to-rack, backed with a heavy cable laced through both wheels and 
 secured with the same lock.  Can I reasonably do more than that?

 On Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:00:15 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote:

 On Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:46:54 AM UTC-7, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro 
 wrote:

 Which raises an interesting question, since many of us use 
 U-locks-and-cable approaches.  Are there ways of locking up with a U-lock 
 (preferrably a smallish one) that defeat most methods of defeating the 
 things?

 Simple answer: No. 

 An angle grinder will cut through any u-lock pretty quickly. You can see 
 videos on youtube of how fast it is. I've seen a titanium lock -- Tigr IIRC 
 -- that will delay an angle grinder longer, but still isn't uncuttable. It 
 sounds like the recovered Sam had it's lock picked or else not latched 
 completely.


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[RBW] Re: Replace 27 wheels with 700c or 650b? Brakes = Silvers

[franklyn]

With a steel frame, you don't really need to cold-set the frame from 126mm 
to 130mm. My wife recently acquired a 1983 Trek 500 and we modernized the 
parts and use 130mm OLD ultegra/A23 700c wheels. The frame has 126mm but a 
gentle tug east-west of the drop-out allows me to pull the rear wheel in 
easily. 

Actually, the Silver/Tektro 559 might not work with 700c wheels, unless the 
reach for 700c on the frameset is longer than 55mm. So you really need to 
determine the wheel size first before selecting the brakes. Also, unless 
you can score brakes that uses nut instead of recessed allen, you will have 
to drill the frameset to use most recess-allen-equipped brake calipers. I 
tend to use center-pull brakes for these conversions for easy and 
inexpensive sourcing, as well as better braking power.

Franklyn

On Thursday, August 28, 2014 5:03:39 PM UTC-7, cbone97 wrote:

 So after selling my Sam (sniff sniff), I scored a 1985 Trek 420 with 27 
 wheels.  It's a beautiful lugged frame that looks like it was barely ridden 
 and I can't wait to get my collection of Rivy parts on it: SunRace 
 thumbshifter (singular, no front der), Dirt Drop stem, fancy drilled Tektro 
 levers, etc.

 Here's the hard part.  I'm a hefty lad and need/want a fatter tire than 
 the fattest 27ers made.  The Trek has a rear hub spacing of 126mm and I 
 don't really want to cold set it to 130mm.  At 126mm, options seem limited 
 to freewheel hubs. I'm ok with that, but all the prebuilt 700c 126mm 
 wheelsets have skinny rims for skinny tires. So it seems I need a custom 
 rear wheel - 126mm hub with a rim that will accommodate 38-50mm tires.

 If I'm going to have a rear wheel built on a 126mm hub, would it be 
 preferable to go 650b or 700c?  Can I really get that much more air volume 
 with 650b tires?  My rough measurements suggest that with 700c the rear 
 will fit 38mm tires.  With 700c, I might? even fit a 50mm Big Ben on the 
 front a and a little Ben on the rear.  While 650b theoretically will allow 
 a bigger tire, I'm not sure a 650b Big Ben will fit the rear, which might 
 put me

 Assuming that the Silvers will work for either size (reach the 650b rims), 
 which size might be best?  I think either would be fine/ok, am I forgetting 
 anything?  Should I REALLY not rule out cold setting to 130mm and going 
 with a freehub wheel?

 Thanks!


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