[RBW] Re: Childrens' bikes
I had great fun with a Redline "Junior" BMX race bike for my kid, and sold it for half what I paid for it. If I'd bought it used, I would have probably spent net zero for a few years of use. Light. Fast. Actually raceable if your child can handle the noise and testosterone of BMX tracks (mine could not - didn't care about winning, hated the gate noise, thought the other dads were dicks). Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 10:38:08 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: > > There was a thread a while back about kids' bikes. A close friend is > looking for a recommendation for a 20" wheel bike for a 6 year old who is > very comfortable riding 5 miles and whose parents are looking for a higher > quality bike than the department store 16" bike she's riding now. Any > suggestions? > > > > Riv content: Well, how about the unavailability of the > considered-but-discarded Riv Rosco Bubbe? > > -- > > > This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. > If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) > 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any > email) and any printout thereof. > > Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their > professional qualifications will be provided upon request. > > == > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Childrens' bikes
If you want to accommodate a child long term, a disc brake bike like a Surly Straggler or Fairdale Weekender are an option. I know both of these work well with 26" wheels through 700c & the smalls are pretty dang small. My nearly seven year old rides a Giant Awesome 24" mountain bike, but the Fairdale w/ 26" wheels actually has a lower standover height. The tt is a little longer, but with the right stem & bar combo works well. 155-165 cranks and the bb height isn't all that low & now we've got a bike that is lighter & better appointed & with a couple changes of wheels & stems should last for several years. I was given the frame/fork or I probably would've had a hard time swallowing the price for a kid's bike, but the Isla's aren't terribly cheap either. Just throwing another option out there. Smitty from the list & Jim (used to run Hiawatha) from the list have both used Stragglers for this purpose I believe. Best, Eric On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 9:30:15 AM UTC-4, Jeffrey Marco wrote: > Linus also has some decent looking kids bikes. > http://www.linusbike.com/collections/bikes-kids. My Son and Daughter will > be ready to roll on 20's next summer. > > On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 1:38:08 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: >> >> There was a thread a while back about kids' bikes. A close friend is >> looking for a recommendation for a 20" wheel bike for a 6 year old who is >> very comfortable riding 5 miles and whose parents are looking for a higher >> quality bike than the department store 16" bike she's riding now. Any >> suggestions? >> >> >> >> Riv content: Well, how about the unavailability of the >> considered-but-discarded Riv Rosco Bubbe? >> >> -- >> >> >> This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the >> addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or >> confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this >> email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or >> copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. >> If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) >> 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any >> email) and any printout thereof. >> >> Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their >> professional qualifications will be provided upon request. >> >> == >> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Childrens' bikes
I'm so mad that I never thought of those Linus bikes. I just bought a Giant 20incher for my 1st grader to commute to school. It's a great bike, but wouldn't we have been a darling pair on my Riv Betty Foy and his Linus roadster? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Childrens' bikes
Linus also has some decent looking kids bikes. http://www.linusbike.com/collections/bikes-kids. My Son and Daughter will be ready to roll on 20's next summer. On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 1:38:08 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: > > There was a thread a while back about kids' bikes. A close friend is > looking for a recommendation for a 20" wheel bike for a 6 year old who is > very comfortable riding 5 miles and whose parents are looking for a higher > quality bike than the department store 16" bike she's riding now. Any > suggestions? > > > > Riv content: Well, how about the unavailability of the > considered-but-discarded Riv Rosco Bubbe? > > -- > > > This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. > If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) > 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any > email) and any printout thereof. > > Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their > professional qualifications will be provided upon request. > > == > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Childrens' bikes
I love the look of those isla bikes. If looking on CL, I would avoid front shocks and front derailers. On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 12:38:08 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: > > There was a thread a while back about kids' bikes. A close friend is > looking for a recommendation for a 20" wheel bike for a 6 year old who is > very comfortable riding 5 miles and whose parents are looking for a higher > quality bike than the department store 16" bike she's riding now. Any > suggestions? > > > > Riv content: Well, how about the unavailability of the > considered-but-discarded Riv Rosco Bubbe? > > -- > > > This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. > If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) > 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any > email) and any printout thereof. > > Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their > professional qualifications will be provided upon request. > > == > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Childrens' bikes
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[RBW] Re: Childrens' bikes
I just bought a Beinn Large for my 6 year old and he rode over 7 miles the other day with me. He loves it. On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 1:38:08 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: > > There was a thread a while back about kids' bikes. A close friend is > looking for a recommendation for a 20" wheel bike for a 6 year old who is > very comfortable riding 5 miles and whose parents are looking for a higher > quality bike than the department store 16" bike she's riding now. Any > suggestions? > > > > Riv content: Well, how about the unavailability of the > considered-but-discarded Riv Rosco Bubbe? > > -- > > > This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. > If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) > 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any > email) and any printout thereof. > > Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their > professional qualifications will be provided upon request. > > == > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
Oh, this is a challenge! You are lucky that you are dealing with an eleven year old as the options are much better. I have an 8 year old and could not find a road bike to fit his 52 height. I got him a Fuji dynamite and replaced the knobby tires with schwab marathon ones. No comfort issues. This is a 14 speed bike that replaced a Trek MT 60 6 speed. He has to work 3 times as hard when I bring him on club rides because his bike weighs about twice as mine. In other words, his bike weighs around 32 lbs and he weighs around 42 pounds (yes, he is skinny). I think you have to approach fit issues as if he were an adult. It is a plus that he is sensitive and aware enough to give you relevant feedback. Don't ask me what I had to go through to get my Tandem to fit! Cheers! Chris On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Jay Sinnsinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :) http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
I'm really thinking a IGH is a great way to go with kids. Only a single shifter, and nothing for them to break (relatively). I have a Nexus 7 on a 650b rim just waiting to go on a bike! DE On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Gary g...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: Hello Horace, They are a bit big for her but she's a fairly determined child. For braking she mostly uses the interupters. When she shifts you can see her reach her fingertips out to engage the brifters. It's not ideal but it works fine for her. She turned eight in December and got the bike for Xmas. She's growing and it is certainly easier for her now than six months age when she got the bike. Gary On Jun 24, 12:19 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: Sorry, I meant the brifters. I know a lot of people with small hands who have trouble with conventional STI levers, and I wondered if this was a version for small hands, but only sold on bikes such as this. Horace. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Garyg...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: They are interupter brakes like many cyclocross bike set ups. Most of the kids road bikes are equipped this way from Trek, Specialized, Felt, and Argon16. The Trek and Specialized kids road bikes just stopped production. Felt and Argon are still available. I purchased my daughters Trek on Ebay for close to 300. like new. So they are out there. She loves her road bike. The picture is from this past winters Stagecoach Century where she did the 26 mile loop. She's 8. Gary On Jun 24, 6:43 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: Interesting! Are those special brake levers for small hands? On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Garyg...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: Heres a picture of my daughters grownup road bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/worldcyclotour/3655418070/in/set-7215762... Gary Alpine CA On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Just for a little inspiration, JPW has a nice little rascal rando and a mini-me Masi on his flicker page. Why didn't my parents know about such things? http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/3647316368/ Marty On Jun 23, 1:33 pm, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I had to do a double take and checked out the Surly site about standover height on the 42 cm LHT. It claims 27.7 inches however I bet that could be reduced an inch, possibly and inch and a half. I had'nt even considered a Suly in matter of a child's bike so that was a pleasant surprise. The Giant barely fits my son at exactly 25 inchs (mid frame), though I would like to get him a chomoly frame, I settled for this. Also since I had the upgade of Albatross bars in mind the suspension forks provide enough weight to counteract the touchy lack of control feeling you get with 'em. My son is also a hair lacking in the motor skill department as well. I'm considering a Brooks for the young man but that might be a stretch too soon because of saddle care issues. He feels that a bicycle is also a human powered submersable, so the deeper the mud puddle the great the water sport. On Jun 23, 11:32 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :) http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
Heres a picture of my daughters grownup road bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/worldcyclotour/3655418070/in/set-72157620413355600/ Gary Alpine CA On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Just for a little inspiration, JPW has a nice little rascal rando and a mini-me Masi on his flicker page. Why didn't my parents know about such things? http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/3647316368/ Marty On Jun 23, 1:33 pm, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I had to do a double take and checked out the Surly site about standover height on the 42 cm LHT. It claims 27.7 inches however I bet that could be reduced an inch, possibly and inch and a half. I had'nt even considered a Suly in matter of a child's bike so that was a pleasant surprise. The Giant barely fits my son at exactly 25 inchs (mid frame), though I would like to get him a chomoly frame, I settled for this. Also since I had the upgade of Albatross bars in mind the suspension forks provide enough weight to counteract the touchy lack of control feeling you get with 'em. My son is also a hair lacking in the motor skill department as well. I'm considering a Brooks for the young man but that might be a stretch too soon because of saddle care issues. He feels that a bicycle is also a human powered submersable, so the deeper the mud puddle the great the water sport. On Jun 23, 11:32 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
Interesting! Are those special brake levers for small hands? On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Garyg...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: Heres a picture of my daughters grownup road bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/worldcyclotour/3655418070/in/set-72157620413355600/ Gary Alpine CA On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Just for a little inspiration, JPW has a nice little rascal rando and a mini-me Masi on his flicker page. Why didn't my parents know about such things? http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/3647316368/ Marty On Jun 23, 1:33 pm, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I had to do a double take and checked out the Surly site about standover height on the 42 cm LHT. It claims 27.7 inches however I bet that could be reduced an inch, possibly and inch and a half. I had'nt even considered a Suly in matter of a child's bike so that was a pleasant surprise. The Giant barely fits my son at exactly 25 inchs (mid frame), though I would like to get him a chomoly frame, I settled for this. Also since I had the upgade of Albatross bars in mind the suspension forks provide enough weight to counteract the touchy lack of control feeling you get with 'em. My son is also a hair lacking in the motor skill department as well. I'm considering a Brooks for the young man but that might be a stretch too soon because of saddle care issues. He feels that a bicycle is also a human powered submersable, so the deeper the mud puddle the great the water sport. On Jun 23, 11:32 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
I have one of those too, the Trek KDZxxx something. (Cannot recall the exact model.) A good concept bike. There's no way any kid I know that is small enough to ride the bike can actually use the STI lever safely. I replaced the STI Brifters with Cane Creek compact brake levers (for smaller hands) and bar end shifters. Trek seems to only offer the road bike version every few years. I don't see it in their current lineup. I bought it years ago when I worked at a shop. The stock headsets are junk (I believe it was bushing and no bearings) and the fork has a funky steer tube on it that takes considerable work to ream for a crown race. I replaced the headset with a Ritchey Scuzzy Logic. My two daughters have both ridden (and enjoyed) the bike, and it's in really good condition. Not certain that my daughters share my passion for riding,but have joined me as stoker on our tandem for any really long rides. My youngest daughter is now almost 10 and getting a little big for the bike. I'd certainly consider selling if you were interested. Contact me directly if interested... On Jun 23, 5:02 pm, Gary g...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: Heres a picture of my daughters grownup road bike:http://www.flickr.com/photos/worldcyclotour/3655418070/in/set-7215762... Gary Alpine CA On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Just for a little inspiration, JPW has a nice little rascal rando and a mini-me Masi on his flicker page. Why didn't my parents know about such things? http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/3647316368/ Marty On Jun 23, 1:33 pm, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I had to do a double take and checked out the Surly site about standover height on the 42 cm LHT. It claims 27.7 inches however I bet that could be reduced an inch, possibly and inch and a half. I had'nt even considered a Suly in matter of a child's bike so that was a pleasant surprise. The Giant barely fits my son at exactly 25 inchs (mid frame), though I would like to get him a chomoly frame, I settled for this. Also since I had the upgade of Albatross bars in mind the suspension forks provide enough weight to counteract the touchy lack of control feeling you get with 'em. My son is also a hair lacking in the motor skill department as well. I'm considering a Brooks for the young man but that might be a stretch too soon because of saddle care issues. He feels that a bicycle is also a human powered submersable, so the deeper the mud puddle the great the water sport. On Jun 23, 11:32 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
They are interupter brakes like many cyclocross bike set ups. Most of the kids road bikes are equipped this way from Trek, Specialized, Felt, and Argon16. The Trek and Specialized kids road bikes just stopped production. Felt and Argon are still available. I purchased my daughters Trek on Ebay for close to 300. like new. So they are out there. She loves her road bike. The picture is from this past winters Stagecoach Century where she did the 26 mile loop. She's 8. Gary On Jun 24, 6:43 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: Interesting! Are those special brake levers for small hands? On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Garyg...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: Heres a picture of my daughters grownup road bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/worldcyclotour/3655418070/in/set-7215762... Gary Alpine CA On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Just for a little inspiration, JPW has a nice little rascal rando and a mini-me Masi on his flicker page. Why didn't my parents know about such things? http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/3647316368/ Marty On Jun 23, 1:33 pm, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I had to do a double take and checked out the Surly site about standover height on the 42 cm LHT. It claims 27.7 inches however I bet that could be reduced an inch, possibly and inch and a half. I had'nt even considered a Suly in matter of a child's bike so that was a pleasant surprise. The Giant barely fits my son at exactly 25 inchs (mid frame), though I would like to get him a chomoly frame, I settled for this. Also since I had the upgade of Albatross bars in mind the suspension forks provide enough weight to counteract the touchy lack of control feeling you get with 'em. My son is also a hair lacking in the motor skill department as well. I'm considering a Brooks for the young man but that might be a stretch too soon because of saddle care issues. He feels that a bicycle is also a human powered submersable, so the deeper the mud puddle the great the water sport. On Jun 23, 11:32 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
Sorry, I meant the brifters. I know a lot of people with small hands who have trouble with conventional STI levers, and I wondered if this was a version for small hands, but only sold on bikes such as this. Horace. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Garyg...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: They are interupter brakes like many cyclocross bike set ups. Most of the kids road bikes are equipped this way from Trek, Specialized, Felt, and Argon16. The Trek and Specialized kids road bikes just stopped production. Felt and Argon are still available. I purchased my daughters Trek on Ebay for close to 300. like new. So they are out there. She loves her road bike. The picture is from this past winters Stagecoach Century where she did the 26 mile loop. She's 8. Gary On Jun 24, 6:43 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: Interesting! Are those special brake levers for small hands? On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Garyg...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: Heres a picture of my daughters grownup road bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/worldcyclotour/3655418070/in/set-7215762... Gary Alpine CA On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Just for a little inspiration, JPW has a nice little rascal rando and a mini-me Masi on his flicker page. Why didn't my parents know about such things? http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/3647316368/ Marty On Jun 23, 1:33 pm, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I had to do a double take and checked out the Surly site about standover height on the 42 cm LHT. It claims 27.7 inches however I bet that could be reduced an inch, possibly and inch and a half. I had'nt even considered a Suly in matter of a child's bike so that was a pleasant surprise. The Giant barely fits my son at exactly 25 inchs (mid frame), though I would like to get him a chomoly frame, I settled for this. Also since I had the upgade of Albatross bars in mind the suspension forks provide enough weight to counteract the touchy lack of control feeling you get with 'em. My son is also a hair lacking in the motor skill department as well. I'm considering a Brooks for the young man but that might be a stretch too soon because of saddle care issues. He feels that a bicycle is also a human powered submersable, so the deeper the mud puddle the great the water sport. On Jun 23, 11:32 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
Hello Horace, They are a bit big for her but she's a fairly determined child. For braking she mostly uses the interupters. When she shifts you can see her reach her fingertips out to engage the brifters. It's not ideal but it works fine for her. She turned eight in December and got the bike for Xmas. She's growing and it is certainly easier for her now than six months age when she got the bike. Gary On Jun 24, 12:19 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: Sorry, I meant the brifters. I know a lot of people with small hands who have trouble with conventional STI levers, and I wondered if this was a version for small hands, but only sold on bikes such as this. Horace. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Garyg...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: They are interupter brakes like many cyclocross bike set ups. Most of the kids road bikes are equipped this way from Trek, Specialized, Felt, and Argon16. The Trek and Specialized kids road bikes just stopped production. Felt and Argon are still available. I purchased my daughters Trek on Ebay for close to 300. like new. So they are out there. She loves her road bike. The picture is from this past winters Stagecoach Century where she did the 26 mile loop. She's 8. Gary On Jun 24, 6:43 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: Interesting! Are those special brake levers for small hands? On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Garyg...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: Heres a picture of my daughters grownup road bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/worldcyclotour/3655418070/in/set-7215762... Gary Alpine CA On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Just for a little inspiration, JPW has a nice little rascal rando and a mini-me Masi on his flicker page. Why didn't my parents know about such things? http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/3647316368/ Marty On Jun 23, 1:33 pm, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I had to do a double take and checked out the Surly site about standover height on the 42 cm LHT. It claims 27.7 inches however I bet that could be reduced an inch, possibly and inch and a half. I had'nt even considered a Suly in matter of a child's bike so that was a pleasant surprise. The Giant barely fits my son at exactly 25 inchs (mid frame), though I would like to get him a chomoly frame, I settled for this. Also since I had the upgade of Albatross bars in mind the suspension forks provide enough weight to counteract the touchy lack of control feeling you get with 'em. My son is also a hair lacking in the motor skill department as well. I'm considering a Brooks for the young man but that might be a stretch too soon because of saddle care issues. He feels that a bicycle is also a human powered submersable, so the deeper the mud puddle the great the water sport. On Jun 23, 11:32 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
My daughter is much much younger so it's of no help (sorry), but she rides one of thee: http://www.skuut.com/ So far so good! Karl On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
Catie turned 8 on June 8th. I had promised her a new bike if she finally learned to ride her Electra Little Betty sans training wheels -- Catie is intellectually and artistically precocious but somewhat retrograde in her gross motor skills: tall and klutzy, as I was as a boy (but a lot prettier). She put her mind to it and did so, so I bought her this: http://www.rei.com/product/781229 Hers is the 24 wheel model: 3 speed coaster brake hub, aluminum frame and parts -- lighter by far than the Little Betty and even lighter compared to the Magna/Raleigh 16 wheel bike her mother bought her, which weighs close to what my Monocog 29er weighs. The townie is not a bad bike, though it comes only in pink, which is *so* six year old. Catie started out with a Radio Flyer trike with freewheel and optional remote parent steering, then I bought her a little 12 wheel bike, then a 16 wheel bike while her mother bought her the Raleigh-so-called. The the Little Betty at five, and now the Townie. Quite a collection for someone whe didn't leave the training wheels behind until a month ago. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
Here's a photograph for reference: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/3653653035/ On Jun 23, 8:32 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
Right now I'm thinking of converting the jump bmxhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2335469362/ to a geared bike, then I have a old 600A framehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/509802333/that barely fits a 650c Nexus http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/1863687736/in/set-72157601949115550/wheel. I'm on the lookout for old 24 and 650c traditional road bikes all the time. The vast majority of 650c bikes are tri-bikes, but older steel road bikes pop up on ebay now and then. Kona's 24 Jake http://www.cyclerscafe.com/KidsBikes/Kona/Jake24.aspxcross bike is pretty cool, too. I wouldn't mind finding a 24 mtn. bike tbut they're all so heavy and with suspension. Would like to find a lighter/rigid 24 one some day, but don't know if they exist. DE On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:18 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Catie turned 8 on June 8th. I had promised her a new bike if she finally learned to ride her Electra Little Betty sans training wheels -- Catie is intellectually and artistically precocious but somewhat retrograde in her gross motor skills: tall and klutzy, as I was as a boy (but a lot prettier). She put her mind to it and did so, so I bought her this: http://www.rei.com/product/781229 Hers is the 24 wheel model: 3 speed coaster brake hub, aluminum frame and parts -- lighter by far than the Little Betty and even lighter compared to the Magna/Raleigh 16 wheel bike her mother bought her, which weighs close to what my Monocog 29er weighs. The townie is not a bad bike, though it comes only in pink, which is *so* six year old. Catie started out with a Radio Flyer trike with freewheel and optional remote parent steering, then I bought her a little 12 wheel bike, then a 16 wheel bike while her mother bought her the Raleigh-so-called. The the Little Betty at five, and now the Townie. Quite a collection for someone whe didn't leave the training wheels behind until a month ago. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
That is awesome! On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a photograph for reference: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/3653653035/ On Jun 23, 8:32 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :) http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on? -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
I had to do a double take and checked out the Surly site about standover height on the 42 cm LHT. It claims 27.7 inches however I bet that could be reduced an inch, possibly and inch and a half. I had'nt even considered a Suly in matter of a child's bike so that was a pleasant surprise. The Giant barely fits my son at exactly 25 inchs (mid frame), though I would like to get him a chomoly frame, I settled for this. Also since I had the upgade of Albatross bars in mind the suspension forks provide enough weight to counteract the touchy lack of control feeling you get with 'em. My son is also a hair lacking in the motor skill department as well. I'm considering a Brooks for the young man but that might be a stretch too soon because of saddle care issues. He feels that a bicycle is also a human powered submersable, so the deeper the mud puddle the great the water sport. On Jun 23, 11:32 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Childrens bikes
Just for a little inspiration, JPW has a nice little rascal rando and a mini-me Masi on his flicker page. Why didn't my parents know about such things? http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/3647316368/ Marty On Jun 23, 1:33 pm, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I had to do a double take and checked out the Surly site about standover height on the 42 cm LHT. It claims 27.7 inches however I bet that could be reduced an inch, possibly and inch and a half. I had'nt even considered a Suly in matter of a child's bike so that was a pleasant surprise. The Giant barely fits my son at exactly 25 inchs (mid frame), though I would like to get him a chomoly frame, I settled for this. Also since I had the upgade of Albatross bars in mind the suspension forks provide enough weight to counteract the touchy lack of control feeling you get with 'em. My son is also a hair lacking in the motor skill department as well. I'm considering a Brooks for the young man but that might be a stretch too soon because of saddle care issues. He feels that a bicycle is also a human powered submersable, so the deeper the mud puddle the great the water sport. On Jun 23, 11:32 am, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: My almost-9 year old rides a 42cm Surly LHT with GripKing pedals and (added) interruptor cross levers. The bike should fit him for several years, and he quickly learned the nuances of bar-end shifting and braking. He's been on it since his 8th birthday, and it's really enhanced our family riding and expanded our radius to all safe routes. It's been an excellent solution, and though it's not priced like other kids bikes, it has been well worth the investment. On Jun 23, 8:00 am, Jay Sinn sinn...@gmail.com wrote: I put my 11 year old son on a Giant MTX 225. Mostly to teach him about shifting and hand brakes. He is already asking about a more comefortable seat and different bars. :)http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-AU/bikes/kids/2191/31884/zoom/ What do RBW owners put their children on? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
