Re: [RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?
My heart now beats a little faster when considering what I now know to be called, front mount bags and handlebar bags, thanks to all the positive reviews. It's a much spendier proposition than I first realized, however. The front mounts not only require a $120ish front rack but a $85ish decalleur. That means the two bags I'm particularly enamored with, the Acorn Boxy Rando Bag and the Berthoud GB25, seemingly attainable bags at $175 and $255 respectively, actually cost around $380 and $460!!! As a result, I'm heavily considering Riv's Sackville Barsack and Nitto F-15 mount for a grand total of $225. I like the idea of quickily taking the back with me when I lock it outside while I refuel on caffeine and scones. It also appears quick and easy to remove the rack for quicker, tube+pump fitness rides. Any critiques of this set-up are welcome. I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CE_1Vc69U_QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?
My own take on front rack bags is as small augmentations to panniers. I hope soon to get a small one that will fit without decaleur on my VO randonneur rack, about the size of but more accessible than say a Banana bag or a bit bigger. That will suffice for repair kit and tubes as well as bunch o' keys and food when I don't want to carry a rear pannier. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 3:59 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: If the Sackville is large enough to carry your stuff, it's a good choice. The F-15 will take up some handlebar space. The main question is whether that set-up will handle the wieght and volume you carry. My Acorn Boxy rando sits on the little front rack, no decalleur. I too like a quick off'n'on, so I added a pair of D-rings to the bottom near the front and a bit of shock cord with an S-hook. It seems secure enough between the rear strap that drops over the rack and the single cord in the front. I don't bother with the 4 velcro straps. I tend to stuff it full of food, camera, etc, then cram a jacket on top to the point of bulging the top. Stability seems OK. dougP On Sep 4, 1:10 pm, Shifty seandes...@earthlink.net wrote: My heart now beats a little faster when considering what I now know to be called, front mount bags and handlebar bags, thanks to all the positive reviews. It's a much spendier proposition than I first realized, however. The front mounts not only require a $120ish front rack but a $85ish decalleur. That means the two bags I'm particularly enamored with, the Acorn Boxy Rando Bag and the Berthoud GB25, seemingly attainable bags at $175 and $255 respectively, actually cost around $380 and $460!!! As a result, I'm heavily considering Riv's Sackville Barsack and Nitto F-15 mount for a grand total of $225. I like the idea of quickily taking the back with me when I lock it outside while I refuel on caffeine and scones. It also appears quick and easy to remove the rack for quicker, tube+pump fitness rides. Any critiques of this set-up are welcome. I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 16:02 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: My own take on front rack bags is as small augmentations to panniers. I hope soon to get a small one that will fit without decaleur on my VO randonneur rack, about the size of but more accessible than say a Banana bag or a bit bigger. That will suffice for repair kit and tubes as well as bunch o' keys and food when I don't want to carry a rear pannier. I think a small size rack top bag would do nicely for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?
But that would leave my front rack without any bag, no? And more seriously, the idea is to have a front bag on all the time while the panniers of various sizes come and go as needed. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 16:02 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: My own take on front rack bags is as small augmentations to panniers. I hope soon to get a small one that will fit without decaleur on my VO randonneur rack, about the size of but more accessible than say a Banana bag or a bit bigger. That will suffice for repair kit and tubes as well as bunch o' keys and food when I don't want to carry a rear pannier. I think a small size rack top bag would do nicely for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 16:39 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: But that would leave my front rack without any bag, no? I mean, use a small rack-top bag on your front rack. My friend Sarah has exactly that setup on her VO Randonneur w/VO front randonneur rack, using a bag she bought from an exhibitor at NAHBS at Richmond a year or two ago. It fits perfectly. Can't access it while riding, of course, but other than that it's fine. I don't recall the name of the bag maker, but it was a small custom firm, just the sort of outfit iBOBs and the like enjoy buying from. Drop me a PM if you'd like more info about the bag. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?
Thanks, Steve; actually I am waiting for a custom from a fellow listmember that ought to be just what I need. I did think of a small trunk rack until this deal came up. On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 16:39 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: But that would leave my front rack without any bag, no? I mean, use a small rack-top bag on your front rack. My friend Sarah has exactly that setup on her VO Randonneur w/VO front randonneur rack, using a bag she bought from an exhibitor at NAHBS at Richmond a year or two ago. It fits perfectly. Can't access it while riding, of course, but other than that it's fine. I don't recall the name of the bag maker, but it was a small custom firm, just the sort of outfit iBOBs and the like enjoy buying from. Drop me a PM if you'd like more info about the bag. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?
I don't yet have a solid front-mount setup so my comments are limited, but just please be aware, Velo-Orange has two decaleurs available at about $30 per set. One attaches to the headset, and one to the stem at the handlebar clamp. Assuming the Campagne or the Minnehaha front bags are sufficiently functional, the total cost to get started could be from $90 to $120, not including the rack. The cheap but less aesthetic approach with a rack is the cheap aluminum black anodized rack, usually sold for about $20 shipped on Ebay. Needs Pclips and careful fitting, but it did work for me on a SAGged tour. An even cheaper approach for a bag is a vintage Rhode Gear, Cannondale, or other front bag from the '70s or '80s. Takes some fabrication to provide stiffening and mounting for the decaleur, not to mention bottom securing to the rack, but it WAS cheap, and it worked. The tradeoff was water resistance, but that's the bag, not the concept. On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Shifty seandes...@earthlink.net wrote: My heart now beats a little faster when considering what I now know to be called, front mount bags and handlebar bags, thanks to all the positive reviews. It's a much spendier proposition than I first realized, however. The front mounts not only require a $120ish front rack but a $85ish decalleur. That means the two bags I'm particularly enamored with, the Acorn Boxy Rando Bag and the Berthoud GB25, seemingly attainable bags at $175 and $255 respectively, actually cost around $380 and $460!!! As a result, I'm heavily considering Riv's Sackville Barsack and Nitto F-15 mount for a grand total of $225. I like the idea of quickily taking the back with me when I lock it outside while I refuel on caffeine and scones. It also appears quick and easy to remove the rack for quicker, tube+pump fitness rides. Any critiques of this set-up are welcome. I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CE_1Vc69U_QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?
on 8/30/11 12:09 PM, dougP at dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I agree with all the above re: ease of access convenience. My Acorn Boxy Rando has a couple of small pockets facing me. My cell phone goes in one, and I can hear the phone ring, stop the bike and answer it before it goes to voice mail. This can be a blessing or a curse, however. I heartily recommend looking into caller-specific ring tones... - Jim Curiously, my day-job ringtone is very, very, quiet -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace. William Gibson - All Tomorrow's Parties -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: There are some benefits to the front bag, depending on your needs. It's not necessary to use only a front bag, and many people combine front and rear as needed. Among the benefits are the ability to easily get things from the bag while you are riding, the ability to see your bag at all times (less likely to leave it open and lose things, for example) and the ability to put a map pocket on top. Right. I forgot to answer *why* I like them. Ready access to things like cameras, food, wallet, cell phone, arm warmers and maps. Also the map case - I've tried handlebar mounted map cases before but I don't like them. The map case on Arkels are very nice. I like the saddlebag for its carrying capacity but it's nothing like as convenient as the handlebar bag. If you're using wide enough handlebars the side pockets on the handlebar bag can also hold water bottles. Oh, and the rack that the bag mounts on makes a great place to mount a headlight. If you mount it off to the side the spill from the light reflects off of the moving spokes and I've been told by people who've seen me riding at night in a group that it makes me *much* more visible from the side. -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 12:39 -0700, Mike wrote: I should add that it's important to have a properly sized front bag. I use the tallest Berthoud bike because my bikes are big. With a shorter bag it just doesn't look right to me but it's also harder to read the cue sheet. Me, too: 59 60 cm frames, and bars up at saddle height. The bag's got to fit the space, and there's only so far down decaleurs can reach so the bag has to make up the difference. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
