[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

[E Lee]

I recently picked up the Thule Apex 4.  Pricey but so far I have no 
complaints. It has a knob to tighten a wedge in the receiver. fits 1-1/4" 
or 2" by way of a bolt on adapter.
The LBS also has the Thule double track pro. They are great looking racks, 
and seem to be reasonably priced.

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 2:11:07 PM UTC-4, Michele wrote:

> Shopping for a rack for my car, so I can get my bike to farther flung 
> locations, and I'm realizing that most hitch racks require a naked front 
> wheel. I need one that allows me to have a small rack and Wald 137 on the 
> front. I'm considering the Thule DoubleTrack Pro 
> https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks/thule-doubletrack-pro-_-1691160
>  
> but I'm wondering what riders in this group use?
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

[dstein]

I highly recommend 1UP. 100% MUSA. They sell adapters to work with fenders. 
I also really like it because it's easy to take on and off. I usually leave 
mine in the back of my car and only put it on the hitch when i'm going on a 
bike ride, it's that easy.


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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Ron.  I've been curious about an aspect of decaleur use and this is 
perfect time to ask.  

I use Acorn front bags with the stabilizer straps that came with it, looped 
around my drop handlebars below the brake hoods.  When the lid is closed, 
the top is laying over the bag's opening and the rearward flap slips down 
behind the bag and I fasten the elastic band to the hook on the bag.  In 
your picture and in many other pictures I've seen of decaleurs installed, 
the 2 bars going from the stem to the bag occupy the same space as the lid 
flap does when it's closed.  

How do you handle this---do you always leave your lid unfastened and never 
loop it in?   

Dave

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 6:15:31 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I've posted these before
>
>  
>
> Set up for a tall Acorn rando on a 25" Raleigh frame, I just measured the 
> drop - right at 80mm, using the long Berthoud decaleur, with it tilted 
> forward enough to grab the bag properly.  
>
> I'm looking to buy another of these to also use the bag on my upright bike 
> with Map bars in almost identical height position.  
>
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:43:05 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> *But the main question is how much drop reach below the bars could I get? 
>> Got pics of yours?*
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

[Ron Mc]

Dave, I always loop it.  - even had a photo with it closed


it wrinkles there a bit but everything works fine.  


On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 12:16:38 PM UTC-5, Dave Small wrote:
>
> Hi Ron.  I've been curious about an aspect of decaleur use and this is 
> perfect time to ask.  
>
> I use Acorn front bags with the stabilizer straps that came with it, 
> looped around my drop handlebars below the brake hoods.  When the lid is 
> closed, the top is laying over the bag's opening and the rearward flap 
> slips down behind the bag and I fasten the elastic band to the hook on the 
> bag.  In your picture and in many other pictures I've seen of decaleurs 
> installed, the 2 bars going from the stem to the bag occupy the same space 
> as the lid flap does when it's closed.  
>
> How do you handle this---do you always leave your lid unfastened and never 
> loop it in?   
>
> Dave
>
>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

[lum gim fong]

OK, great, Thanks, y'all. Looks like I can get plenty of drop. Nice!

Once I get the Tallux/Bosco mounted, I will measure how much length I will 
need and order.

*Only question is ...where to order from???*

Seems like I cannot find a retailer with the horizontal versions in stock 
online for the 121 or 91, which I am sure I will need.


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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

[Christopher Wiggins]

I've used (and sell) Swagman racks.  They worked well enough.  I just got a 
Thule Doubletrack Pro, and for bikes with fenders, baskets and bags, I 
think it's the best.  That's the ways it's worked for me anyway.

Chris Wiggins
A1 Cyclery
Indianapolis IN

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 2:11:07 PM UTC-4, Michele wrote:
>
> Shopping for a rack for my car, so I can get my bike to farther flung 
> locations, and I'm realizing that most hitch racks require a naked front 
> wheel. I need one that allows me to have a small rack and Wald 137 on the 
> front. I'm considering the Thule DoubleTrack Pro 
> https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks/thule-doubletrack-pro-_-1691160
>  
> but I'm wondering what riders in this group use?
>

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[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[Daniel D.]

Thanks for the thoughts everyone. The worry's died down a bit.  Blue vs. 
gray is not quite as settled :p.  

Another thing was reading that the silver and sugino cranks are not 
10-speed friendly.  I like my current setup with SRAM bar ends, friction in 
the front and 10-speed indexing in the rear.  But after checking out prices 
and availability going to 9-speed isn't a big deal

Thanks, Kellie.  We should ride again soon.  Definitely when I have a new 
steed to show off.

On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 5:25:30 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
> Congrats Daniel or your order! You are going *to love it!*
>
 
Without that first visit to Riv HQ, unlikely I would've considered a 
purchase from Rivendell.

On Sunday, August 13, 2017 at 2:23:25 AM UTC-7, REC wrote:
>
> Still, without having a local dealer with built up stock, I never would 
> have made this first purchase.
>
 

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[RBW] Re: Bike Swapping? Manhattan (NYC) and Portland (OR)

[Abcyclehank]

@LBeriot that is a good option but more expensive than Bartering.  I will do 
something similar in Chicago this week only because had for me to find a 100pbh 
for myself although my wife would have better luck.  
I have 2 California friends and an Ohio/Virginia with open offers to use by 
68cm Custom, a 64cm Bombadil, or my 73cm Custom Nobilette, plus now a Large 
HubbaHubba.
Just seems to be a Riv type thing to do.
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan, "The Unsalted Coast"

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

[René Sterental]

+1 for the 1UP. If you get the single one (which can have another one or
two added for a total of 3), you don't even need to open it to get to the
rear door if you have an SUV. Must be the same with a car, but haven't
tested it. I leave mine on permanently and folded; no interference on my
Highlander.

René

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:45 AM, dstein  wrote:

> I highly recommend 1UP. 100% MUSA. They sell adapters to work with
> fenders. I also really like it because it's easy to take on and off. I
> usually leave mine in the back of my car and only put it on the hitch when
> i'm going on a bike ride, it's that easy.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H with drop bars?

[Jacob Harring]

Awesome update.  I've got a 52 Clem coming around October (long story) and
I fell right between the 52 and 59.  I figured with the smaller frame I
would have more bar options (plus 650b is new for me and seems like fun).
Albatross have always appealed to me...you may have me looking at those now
too!  I'll post some photos when everything starts coming together.  The
experiences of others are invaluable.  Thanks again.

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 5:42 PM, Jeremy Tavan  wrote:

> Just as a follow-up, I have removed the dirt drop bars after a few rides.
> While it was comfortable enough to ride, I just wasn't a fan of the overall
> aggressive feel of the bike set up that way, particularly for the family
> rides with my son on the trailer bike clamped to the back of the Clem. I've
> put on a set of Albatross bars on a long (130mm, 105°) stem that I had
> handy, and this seems to put the bars in a comfortable place for me. I'll
> know more after some test rides, but this more-conventional approach seems
> like it may work better. Oh well - it was an easy enough experiment.
>
> /Jeremy
>
>
> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 1:11:16 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>>
>> As requested. In the future, there's going to be an Ostrich front bag
>> attached to the decaleur, but I need to add a snap strap in the front to
>> keep it from flopping around over bumps, first.
>>
>> /Jeremy
>>
>> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 10:18:15 AM UTC-7, Irreguleur wrote:
>>>
>>> If you find the time, I'd love to see some photos of the setup.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Romulus birthday ride

[Deacon Patrick]

Suuwt!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 1:11:31 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote:
>
> While vacationing in Cape Cod my family went biking with me on my 
> birthday. Details and photos here: 
> https://lightofferings.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/cape-cod-birthday-ride/
>
> I enjoy every opportunity to ride with my wife and sons.  I also derive 
> great satisfaction from watching them ride bikes that I built up and 
> maintain for them!  It doesn't get much better!
>
> Erl
> (Now back home in Kensington, MD)
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bike Swapping? Manhattan (NYC) and Portland (OR)

[Kai Vierstra]

Maybe a little large, but I've got a 65 Clem, 68 Quickbeam, and a Surly 
pacer sized for a 5'8"er. In North Brooklyn. 
And Abcyclehank, if you're ever in NYC needing a ride, I've got you 
covered. 
-Kai
BK NY



On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 4:37:56 PM UTC-4, John A. Bennett wrote:
>
> Darby and I are going to be in* New York *from the 14th to 19th of 
> September (which is more like the 15th to the 18th).
>
> We are looking to find bikes for a day to tool around Central Park, and 
> the Waterfront Greenway. 
>
> We're on a shoestring budget for this trip, so I thought I'd see if anyone 
> would be interested in a bike swap. (We won't have a car, so the bikes 
> would probably need to be somewhere *in* Manhattan.) 
>
> We ride your bikes (Rivendell or Riv-like) for a day in New York and then 
> you ride our bikes (Atlantis, Betty Foy, Saluki) for a day when you come to 
> Portland. 
>
> My PBH: 92.5 cm Darby: 80 cm
>
> In any case, if it sounds interesting, let me know. Barring that, if you 
> live in New York and can recommend a good bike rental place, that would be 
> cool, too. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> John at Rivelo in PDX
>

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[RBW] Silver crankset not 10 speed friendly?

[Patrick Moore]

'm using an 8 speed Logic with 10 cogs and 10 sp chain and it all shifts
perfectly. I've used ancient Pro 5 Vis cranks with 9 cogs and I wouldn't
hesitate to use them with 10. I'd be surprised if the Silver cranks can't
work with 10 sp chain. Why does Rivendell say that?

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Daniel D.  wrote:

> ...
>
> Another thing was reading that the silver and sugino cranks are not
> 10-speed friendly.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

[René Sterental]

I've gotten them in the past from:
- Ben's Cycles
- http://www.boulderbicycle.bike
- The Touring Store

Sometimes, based on availability, you have to order the correct length but
a different version and then separately, order the adapter to convert it to
yours. Boulder has that configuration in the 121mm, I believe.

If, by any chance, your brakes don't need a cable hanger (V-brakes) or some
other configuration where the rack doesn't attach to the fork crown and you
have the cable holder placed there (like I do in my Atlantis), you can
adapt a normal cable colder to be the holder for the decaleur:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/27565556620/in/album-72157625129486363/

This has the added advantage that the handlebar height/type doesn't
interfere with the decaleur.

René

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Dave, I always loop it.  - even had a photo with it closed
>
> 
> it wrinkles there a bit but everything works fine.
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 12:16:38 PM UTC-5, Dave Small wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ron.  I've been curious about an aspect of decaleur use and this is
>> perfect time to ask.
>>
>> I use Acorn front bags with the stabilizer straps that came with it,
>> looped around my drop handlebars below the brake hoods.  When the lid is
>> closed, the top is laying over the bag's opening and the rearward flap
>> slips down behind the bag and I fasten the elastic band to the hook on the
>> bag.  In your picture and in many other pictures I've seen of decaleurs
>> installed, the 2 bars going from the stem to the bag occupy the same space
>> as the lid flap does when it's closed.
>>
>> How do you handle this---do you always leave your lid unfastened and
>> never loop it in?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[Steve Palincsar]

On 08/15/2017 02:40 PM, Daniel D. wrote:
Thanks for the thoughts everyone. The worry's died down a bit.  Blue 
vs. gray is not quite as settled :p.


Another thing was reading that the silver and sugino cranks are not 
10-speed friendly.


There is a Sugino triple that is, the Alpina 2. 
http://store.somafab.com/sual10scr.html


Sugino Alpina2 Touring Triple 10s Crankset


I like my current setup with SRAM bar ends, friction in the front and 
10-speed indexing in the rear.  But after checking out prices and 
availability going to 9-speed isn't a big deal


The XD600 definitely is cheaper than the Alpina 2.

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Re: [RBW] FS SimpleOne size 60cm

[ilter saygin]

Now a quick update from an occasional lurker.  I am the new owner of this 
beauty.  Did my first ride tonight, first time on a Rivendell, first time 
with Albatross bars.  High trail, oversized tubes, upright posture, blah 
blah blah...  I don't know what & why, and I am not sure if I care :)  This 
bike is surprisingly lively and so much fun!  It could be the honeymoon 
affect but experience tells me if it's this fun on the first ride, it will 
stay fun.  Perfect bike to just ride. 

Thanks Dave!

Ilter in Chicago

On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 4:43:39 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>
> Sold!
>
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> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:00:14 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [RBW] FS SimpleOne size 60cm
>
> Sale pending!
> Dave
>
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> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 1, 2017 4:52:56 AM
> *Subject: *Fwd: [RBW] FS SimpleOne size 60cm
>
> Bump and price drop!
> Still available and new price of $1,200 plus shipping via bikeflights.
> Thanks for looking,
> Dave
>
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> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent: *Sunday, July 16, 2017 11:51:42 AM
> *Subject: *[RBW] FS SimpleOne size 60cm
>
> Greetings,
> Putting my SO up for sale.  This is one of a handful that came in with 
> horizontal rear drop outs, not the angled ones, and is a great Maroon 
> color.  I bought this directly from Riv in Sept 2010.  It is in really good 
> condition a solid 8 out of 10. Has a couple very small nicks here and 
> there, nothing that jumps out at you.
>
> DOS freewheel 17x19
> Shimano Tiagra brake levers
> Tektro CR720 canitlever brakes
> Crank XD2 double 38/40  172.5
> Bottom bracket 107 Tange Super
> Nitto 10cm Stem
> Nitto Albatross CroMo the wide ones
> Cork tape that has amber shellac and hemp twine
> Misha cork grips
> Rich built MA3 rims
> Front hub is Suntour XC2000
> Rear hub is Phil
> Tires are Pasela 700x37 almost new
> The Brooks sadle could be included
> The Nitto touring cages are not included
> The Fenders could be part of the deal, I dont really need them.
> The seat stem is kind of the plain jane one that Riv sells.
>
> Asking 1,500 plus shipping.
> Paypal or Postal Money order works for me.
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
>
> Dave
> Fort Collins, CO
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roast your own coffee?

['tim petersen' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I follow the same process as you except I stick with 1 pound batches for 
roasting.  Great minds think alike I guess.  I don't have a problem with cold 
weather roasting (even though I live in SE Minnesota) with the Behmor 1600 
since I store the machine in the house between roasts and my garage will get 
down to a minimum of 20 plus degrees in the dead of winter.  Do you have a 
sense of why you had a fire?Tim

On Sunday, August 13, 2017, 2:09:27 PM CDT, ADH  wrote:

I've been roasting for over 20 years. Started with a Freshroast and have had a 
Behmor for probably 10 years. All my beans have always come from Sweet Maria's. 
One great reason to buy from them is that Tom (the owner) travels around the 
world to source beans and he pays way more than Fair Trade prices to the 
farmers. He pays directly to most growers and has long-term relationships 
around the world.
I agree with most every comment so far. Roasting is WAY cheaper than buying 
good roasted beans. Most Maria's beans are about $6+ a lb (order in bulk and 
shipping only adds another $0.50 a lb). Note that beans lose some of their 
weight during the roasting process, so your 16 oz. roast may net at 14 oz. 
I never tried the popper/heat gun/economical methods. Here's how I would make 
the decision. Buying a Behmor breaks even at roughly 50 lbs of coffee (figuring 
$6/lb between roasting and retail. Maria's sells it for $369 which includes 8 
lbs of beans). So, if you use a pound a week, it'd be a year or so. BUT... if 
it's not something you decide to do long-term, you can easily sell a used 
Behmor on eBay for probably 75% of what you paid for it. So that's the math. 
As for the "experience"... it's not exactly set and forget. I used to roast 
small batches frequently because... the coffee police say beans need to be... 
perfect and perfectly fresh. Some years ago I decided that it just didn't 
matter that much. Most times when I drink coffee, I just drink coffee and don't 
think about whether it has hints of dried fruit, molasses, and dense chocolate, 
or it's floral with citrus overtones. My ritual now is to roast 3 lbs of beans 
consecutively in one pound batches (that I throw in the freezer). I do not wait 
an hour for the Behmor to cool down. I don't pre-heat. I don't check voltage 
and I don't vary from the automatic program. I hit the 1 lb button and start. 
When I hear the first crack I press the C button. This batching method takes 
about an hour (20 mins a roast). I do it outside. The Behmor has two quirks, 
both of which are irritating. One, as mentioned, is that it won't work in low 
temps. I live near Boston, so that is a pain. Second, there is an insanity 
inducing requirement to press the Start button when the roast is 75% done, 
otherwise the machine shuts down. The purpose is so you don't walk away from 
the machine during a roast because it can catch on fire (which I can attest 
to). But there is no audible alarm, so it's a pain. Another "chore" is cleaning 
it. I use a Dustbuster to clean out the chaff between roasts. And every 5 lbs 
you need to Simple Green the inside. Have I convinced you it's too hard? Hope 
not. I've been doing it for 20 years and I am not a coffee snob. I do it 
because...
I love good coffee that is not overroasted (which means no Starbucks, etc.). 
The coffee I like costs $12-15/lb. retail, which kills me. I also enjoy the 
process of roasting beans. I read or listen to music for the hour or so it 
takes. I don't mind cleaning the machine. I also love my own coffee enough that 
I rarely buy a cup retail (I used to buy a to-go cup or two of coffee at least 
once a weekday... that was probably $1000/year). After 20 years, I have 
probably saved at least $5000 on the roast side and $15-20,000 not buying to-go 
coffee. That's not an exaggeration. The money I didn't spend was invested in 
the stock market. Someone else can do the math, but I figure roasting my own 
coffee for 20 years just paid for my new car and then some.
Finally (I know, you thought this would never end)... I live near George Howell 
who is a coffee legend. I met him at his company and among other things told 
him I liked my beans best after resting 5-6 days, not 2-3. He agreed. But it 
doesn't matter what I like. Roasting will consistently give you $12 results for 
half the price. But only if you enjoy the process.

On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:28:13 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
I’ve toyed with the idea of roasting my own coffee. Then Kellie goes and 
mentions Sweet Maria’s and I find this:https://www.sweetmarias.com/ 
product/heavy-gauge-stovetop- popper-with-ss-base
Experiences and recommendations? Is it practical to roast your own coffee? 
Benefits?

With abandon,
Patrick

www.CredoFamily.org
www.MindYourHeadCoop.org





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[RBW] Re: Atlantis Fender recommendations

[Peter Turskovitch]

Gilles Berthoud makes wide enough fenders (60mm). They are stainless steel, 
which I know you weren't asking for, but the weight is within 100g of the 
honjo's, they are much stronger, the hardware is better, and they cost less 
than half as much. They are also perfectly flat laterally and evenly 
radiused, unlike the similar-looking VO fenders. 

Peter

On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 6:22:04 AM UTC+2, Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
> Honjo makes a super wide H95 (65mm). Has anyone here tried these?

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[RBW] WFS : Berthoud H-121 Decaleur

[Keenan Cummings]

Or looking for a recommendation of a nice and long Decaleur. I've got a good 
amount of space between stem and random bag. I've got a big ol' Ocean Air 
Cycles Docena "demi-porteur" bag. From all my searching, the Berthoud will do 
the job. But they are hard to get a hold of (Peter White, Box Dog, and Ben's 
Cycles are all out). Any help is very appreciated. 

Keenan

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis Fender recommendations

[Brett Callahan]

I've got the Zeppelins (650b version) on a bike with WTB Horizons, (650b x 
47) and while they fit with no rub, there's little clearance, and I notice 
a lot of overspray getting past the fender and onto me and the bike. If 
you're at all worried about frame clearance, though, I agree that the 
Zeppelins should work pretty well. 

On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 12:56:41 PM UTC-7, Bill wrote:
>
> I'm using 52mm Velo Orange Zeppelins on Snoqualmie Pass tires with no 
> issues. They're not overly roomy but I'm OK with what I've got. They'd be 
> good with anything smaller, i.e., 42, 40, or 38. I've wrangled with Honjo 
> installations before and these were much easier, even though they employ 
> the same type of attachment.

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Re: [RBW] FS SimpleOne size 60cm

[Ryan Fleming]

I always your SO was a great bike...loved the colour and evidently it's 
found a good home , so looks like a win-win all around

On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 4:43:39 AM UTC-5, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
>
> Sold!
>
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> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:00:14 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [RBW] FS SimpleOne size 60cm
>
> Sale pending!
> Dave
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> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 1, 2017 4:52:56 AM
> *Subject: *Fwd: [RBW] FS SimpleOne size 60cm
>
> Bump and price drop!
> Still available and new price of $1,200 plus shipping via bikeflights.
> Thanks for looking,
> Dave
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> *To: *rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent: *Sunday, July 16, 2017 11:51:42 AM
> *Subject: *[RBW] FS SimpleOne size 60cm
>
> Greetings,
> Putting my SO up for sale.  This is one of a handful that came in with 
> horizontal rear drop outs, not the angled ones, and is a great Maroon 
> color.  I bought this directly from Riv in Sept 2010.  It is in really good 
> condition a solid 8 out of 10. Has a couple very small nicks here and 
> there, nothing that jumps out at you.
>
> DOS freewheel 17x19
> Shimano Tiagra brake levers
> Tektro CR720 canitlever brakes
> Crank XD2 double 38/40  172.5
> Bottom bracket 107 Tange Super
> Nitto 10cm Stem
> Nitto Albatross CroMo the wide ones
> Cork tape that has amber shellac and hemp twine
> Misha cork grips
> Rich built MA3 rims
> Front hub is Suntour XC2000
> Rear hub is Phil
> Tires are Pasela 700x37 almost new
> The Brooks sadle could be included
> The Nitto touring cages are not included
> The Fenders could be part of the deal, I dont really need them.
> The seat stem is kind of the plain jane one that Riv sells.
>
> Asking 1,500 plus shipping.
> Paypal or Postal Money order works for me.
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
>
> Dave
> Fort Collins, CO
>
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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

[lum gim fong]

I have sidepulls. But thanks for the tip on getting adaptors  to match sets to 
what I need.

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[RBW] FS: Racks, Light, Brake/Lever, etc

[Justin Schoop]

Edelux is sold!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roast your own coffee?

[Lee Legrand]

So Deacon Peterson,

If a person wanted good coffee every morning without spending so much time
because they have to get to work, it is better to roast the beans for a 3
day supply then on day of use,measure, grind, brew, press, sip?

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:09 PM, 'tim petersen' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I follow the same process as you except I stick with 1 pound batches for
> roasting.  Great minds think alike I guess.  I don't have a problem with
> cold weather roasting (even though I live in SE Minnesota) with the Behmor
> 1600 since I store the machine in the house between roasts and my garage
> will get down to a minimum of 20 plus degrees in the dead of winter.
> Do you have a sense of why you had a fire?
> Tim
>
>
> On Sunday, August 13, 2017, 2:09:27 PM CDT, ADH 
> wrote:
>
>
> I've been roasting for over 20 years. Started with a Freshroast and have
> had a Behmor for probably 10 years. All my beans have always come from
> Sweet Maria's. One great reason to buy from them is that Tom (the owner)
> travels around the world to source beans and he pays way more than Fair
> Trade prices to the farmers. He pays directly to most growers and has
> long-term relationships around the world.
>
> I agree with most every comment so far. Roasting is WAY cheaper than
> buying good roasted beans. Most Maria's beans are about $6+ a lb (order in
> bulk and shipping only adds another $0.50 a lb). Note that beans lose some
> of their weight during the roasting process, so your 16 oz. roast may net
> at 14 oz.
>
> I never tried the popper/heat gun/economical methods. Here's how I would
> make the decision. Buying a Behmor breaks even at roughly 50 lbs of coffee
> (figuring $6/lb between roasting and retail. Maria's sells it for $369
> which includes 8 lbs of beans). So, if you use a pound a week, it'd be a
> year or so. BUT... if it's not something you decide to do long-term, you
> can easily sell a used Behmor on eBay for probably 75% of what you paid for
> it. So that's the math.
>
> As for the "experience"... it's not exactly set and forget. I used to
> roast small batches frequently because... the coffee police say beans need
> to be... perfect and perfectly fresh. Some years ago I decided that it just
> didn't matter that much. Most times when I drink coffee, I just drink
> coffee and don't think about whether it has hints of dried fruit, molasses,
> and dense chocolate, or it's floral with citrus overtones. My ritual now is
> to roast 3 lbs of beans consecutively in one pound batches (that I throw in
> the freezer). I do not wait an hour for the Behmor to cool down. I don't
> pre-heat. I don't check voltage and I don't vary from the automatic
> program. I hit the 1 lb button and start. When I hear the first crack I
> press the C button. This batching method takes about an hour (20 mins a
> roast). I do it outside. The Behmor has two quirks, both of which are
> irritating. One, as mentioned, is that it won't work in low temps. I live
> near Boston, so that is a pain. Second, there is an insanity inducing
> requirement to press the Start button when the roast is 75% done, otherwise
> the machine shuts down. The purpose is so you don't walk away from the
> machine during a roast because it can catch on fire (which I can attest
> to). But there is no audible alarm, so it's a pain. Another "chore" is
> cleaning it. I use a Dustbuster to clean out the chaff between roasts. And
> every 5 lbs you need to Simple Green the inside. Have I convinced you it's
> too hard? Hope not. I've been doing it for 20 years and I am not a coffee
> snob. I do it because...
>
> I love good coffee that is not overroasted (which means no Starbucks,
> etc.). The coffee I like costs $12-15/lb. retail, which kills me. I also
> enjoy the process of roasting beans. I read or listen to music for the hour
> or so it takes. I don't mind cleaning the machine. I also love my own
> coffee enough that I rarely buy a cup retail (I used to buy a to-go cup or
> two of coffee at least once a weekday... that was probably $1000/year).
> After 20 years, I have probably saved at least $5000 on the roast side and
> $15-20,000 not buying to-go coffee. That's not an exaggeration. The money I
> didn't spend was invested in the stock market. Someone else can do the
> math, but I figure roasting my own coffee for 20 years just paid for my new
> car and then some.
>
> Finally (I know, you thought this would never end)... I live near George
> Howell who is a coffee legend. I met him at his company and among other
> things told him I liked my beans best after resting 5-6 days, not 2-3. He
> agreed. But it doesn't matter what I like. Roasting will consistently give
> you $12 results for half the price. But only if you enjoy the process.
>
> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 7:28:13 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I’ve toyed with the idea of roasting my own coffee. Then Kellie goes and
> mentions Sweet 

[RBW] Re: Dog trailer for bikes - any experience or recommendations?

[gordo]

I thought I'd post an update now that the dog has become comfortable in the 
trailer and made his maiden voyage:

The Burley Tail Wagon was a cinch to set up and attach to the bike.  I 
scored a used one on Craigslist and it is just large enough for the pooch.

Wally's gradual approach was key - I first set up the trailer in our living 
room and loaded it up with treats hidden in every nook and cranny so that 
Pancho (the dog) would become comfortable.  I added a rectangular travel 
dog bed to the floor of the trailer to prevent sliding and to make it 
harder for him to find the treats (I placed them under the bed so that he 
would really have to twist around and get comfortable moving within the 
space).  I did all of this with the main flap open to avoid claustrophobia. 
 After a few days, I introduced some extra tasty treats (beef lungs) and 
closed the flap.  After doing this a few times I moved the trailer into the 
lobby of our building and attached it to my bike - I then lured Pancho into 
the trailer with some beef lung bits and the rest is history.  We rode to 
the dog park today and he was calm as can be.  I'm keeping my fingers 
crossed that he will be up for a repeat adventure tomorrow.

Now I need to swap out my granny gear for the smaller 24t - pulling around 
a 50 lb dog is no joke!

Thanks again to all who responded with suggestions.

Cheers,

Eric in SF

On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 8:26:12 AM UTC-7, gordo wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> We just adopted the sweetest rescue dog and I am trying to figure out a 
> way to transport him to work with me via bike.  He's a 50 lb shepherd mutt 
> who does not spook easily - hopefully he will learn to enjoy traveling by 
> trailer.
>
> Any recommendations for models to consider or avoid?
>
> Riv content: I will be attaching the trailer to my Toyo-built Atlantis 
> that is currently in commuter mode with MAP/Ahearne bars.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric 
> SF, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[lum gim fong]

I use silver barend shifters with xd2 crankset and shimano HG50 7-speed 
cassette with 4.5 mm spacer and SRAM 8-speed chain on both my rivbikes.
This is fantastic for friction shifting.

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Re: [RBW] Wtb Nitto Bullmoose

[René Sterental]

Which version are you looking for? There are three Bullmoose bars that I'm
aware of:
- The original MTB like
- The Bosco Bullmoose
- The Choco-moose

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Davey Two Shoes 
wrote:

> Hi All, anyone interested in selling me their handlebars?
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[RBW] Re: Clem H with drop bars?

[Jeremy Tavan]

Just as a follow-up, I have removed the dirt drop bars after a few rides. 
While it was comfortable enough to ride, I just wasn't a fan of the overall 
aggressive feel of the bike set up that way, particularly for the family 
rides with my son on the trailer bike clamped to the back of the Clem. I've 
put on a set of Albatross bars on a long (130mm, 105°) stem that I had 
handy, and this seems to put the bars in a comfortable place for me. I'll 
know more after some test rides, but this more-conventional approach seems 
like it may work better. Oh well - it was an easy enough experiment.

/Jeremy

On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 1:11:16 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>
> As requested. In the future, there's going to be an Ostrich front bag 
> attached to the decaleur, but I need to add a snap strap in the front to 
> keep it from flopping around over bumps, first.
>
> /Jeremy
>
> On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 10:18:15 AM UTC-7, Irreguleur wrote:
>>
>> If you find the time, I'd love to see some photos of the setup.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo for sale on SFbay craigslist

[Jim Edgar]

Yeah... that one raises a whole bunch of flags.  I'm going to cross-post it 
over to the StolenSF index. 


On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 4:36:09 PM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
> The following bike has been being offered at crazy low prices for what 
> seems like months now:
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/rivendell-roadeo-road-bicycle/6263956167.html
>
> I'm just curious if anyone has checked it out and why no one seems to want 
> to buy it.  I'm not in the market as I already have more bikes than I need, 
> but man, I'd think someone would want tosnap that one up.
>
> Sky in new 
> west
>

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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That's the most informative answer I could have hoped for, Ron.  Thanks.  

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 1:49:09 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Dave, I always loop it.  - even had a photo with it closed
>
> 
> it wrinkles there a bit but everything works fine.  
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 12:16:38 PM UTC-5, Dave Small wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ron.  I've been curious about an aspect of decaleur use and this is 
>> perfect time to ask.  
>>
>> I use Acorn front bags with the stabilizer straps that came with it, 
>> looped around my drop handlebars below the brake hoods.  When the lid is 
>> closed, the top is laying over the bag's opening and the rearward flap 
>> slips down behind the bag and I fasten the elastic band to the hook on the 
>> bag.  In your picture and in many other pictures I've seen of decaleurs 
>> installed, the 2 bars going from the stem to the bag occupy the same space 
>> as the lid flap does when it's closed.  
>>
>> How do you handle this---do you always leave your lid unfastened and 
>> never loop it in?   
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>>


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[RBW] Boulder Tips

[Minh]

Hi all,

I'm heading to Boulder next month, there seems to be a few locals here? 
 I'm not bringing a bike but could use a few tips on trails--either hiking 
or trail running.  I like peace and quiet so would prefer those types of 
trails (if possible).   I'll have a car so getting around won't be a 
problem.   

I'll also take any food suggestions you may have--not much of a drinker 
though but you can offer your beer suggestions for the crowd!  Thanks for 
any tips.

Minh

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[RBW] FS: Racks, Light, Brake/Lever, etc

[Justin Schoop]

Need to sell these items!

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a Sackville trunksac on a Bleriot?

[LBleriot]

Here's mine with a grey trunksack...



On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 7:12:27 PM UTC-4, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> I want to get one but wondering what the color looks like against the 
> Bleriot paint?
>
> Does the new blue look right? Brown? Gray? Green? Tan?
> Anyone got pics?
>
> Only bag I have seen that color looks good against a Bleriot so far are 
> Nigel Smyths. Just from pics, though. Haven;t seen the sacvilles.
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a Sackville trunksac on a Bleriot?

[islaysteve]

Grey or tan both go with the Bleriot blue IMO.  I have smaller bags in each 
color and they look good.  Had an older Olive Trunksack which I real didn't 
care for.  Cheers, Steve

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

[TopsfieldRider]

I have the 1Up and love it.  Holds my mixte and 55mm tires bikes with ease. 
Easy on and off.  I can't imagine a. Ike it won't hold. Expensive, but the last 
rack you'll ever have to buy. 

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[RBW] Roadeo for sale on SFbay craigslist

[Rory Woods]

I didn't find a match on bike index, but sure seems stolen to me. 

Rory 
Point Arena, CA 

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

[Scott Calhoun]

For several years, I've had the Thule Doulbletrack Rack that I think is a 
generation earlier that the one you are inquiring about. I think you can 
still buy it new 
here: 
https://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Bike-Racks/Thule/TH990XT.html?feed=npn=EAIaIQobChMIyL6gydHZ1QIVBZR-Ch1vQAu6EAQYASABEgJF4PD_BwE

I like it because it accommodates all of the bike types and sizes that I 
deal with and will work with fenders just fine. Sometimes, handlebars and 
saddles will interfere with each other, but you can slide the wheel mounts 
fore and aft to make it work in most cases. It also locks. I've driven with 
bikes on it from Tucson to N.C. and back and Tucson to Portland and back 
without issue. 

Scott

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:11:07 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>
> Shopping for a rack for my car, so I can get my bike to farther flung 
> locations, and I'm realizing that most hitch racks require a naked front 
> wheel. I need one that allows me to have a small rack and Wald 137 on the 
> front. I'm considering the Thule DoubleTrack Pro 
> https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks/thule-doubletrack-pro-_-1691160
>  
> but I'm wondering what riders in this group use?
>

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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

[lum gim fong]

Thanks for the referrals. I scoped these out yesterday.

All these stores, including Gilles himself are currently outta stock of H 121 
threaded and H 91 threaded. Im guessing you meant Bike touring news store?

I have an email into bike touring and Gilles about eta. Hope they arent 
discontinued. Seems like only aheadset versions available now.

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Romulus birthday ride

[Jonathan D.]

Love it and what great kids bike. 

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Saluki 47cm

[G.E.]

Up for sale is my 47cm Rivendell Saluki. It is being sold as 
frame/fork/headset/bb/cable stop-guides only. 

The frame was purchased new and directly from Rivendell earlier this year 
as a new-old-stock item and painted at that time. Since then, it was built 
up and ridden fewer than 100 miles. Due to the build, there are some 
scratches/blemishes to be found on the frame that have been circled in the 
photos. One is on the underside of the top tube and is small, but visible, 
and there are also a few blemishes/paint indentations on the chainstays due 
to chain slap and the former attachment of a kickstand. I also noticed 
while taking photos that there is a smaller, approximately 1in section on 
the seat tube that seems to have some sort of hazy substance on it. This is 
also circled in one of the photos. 

The frame takes cantilever brakes and 650b wheels (not included). 

It's a fantastic (and beautiful) bike, but is a duplicate for me and I need 
to make room for and help fund a project that is coming my way soon. $1450 
(shipping not included, but available within the continental US with buyer 
covering actual costs). Photos can be seen here: 
https://flic.kr/s/aHsm1hi6AG. If you have questions or interest, feel free 
to PM me. Thanks! :)

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[RBW] Re: Bike Swapping? Manhattan (NYC) and Portland (OR)

[LBleriot]

Why not just rent a CitiBike up near the Park?

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 4:37:56 PM UTC-4, John A. Bennett wrote:
>
> Darby and I are going to be in* New York *from the 14th to 19th of 
> September (which is more like the 15th to the 18th).
>
> We are looking to find bikes for a day to tool around Central Park, and 
> the Waterfront Greenway. 
>
> We're on a shoestring budget for this trip, so I thought I'd see if anyone 
> would be interested in a bike swap. (We won't have a car, so the bikes 
> would probably need to be somewhere *in* Manhattan.) 
>
> We ride your bikes (Rivendell or Riv-like) for a day in New York and then 
> you ride our bikes (Atlantis, Betty Foy, Saluki) for a day when you come to 
> Portland. 
>
> My PBH: 92.5 cm Darby: 80 cm
>
> In any case, if it sounds interesting, let me know. Barring that, if you 
> live in New York and can recommend a good bike rental place, that would be 
> cool, too. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> John at Rivelo in PDX
>

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[RBW] Ride report: Romulus birthday ride

[WETH]

While vacationing in Cape Cod my family went biking with me on my birthday. 
Details and photos here: 
https://lightofferings.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/cape-cod-birthday-ride/

I enjoy every opportunity to ride with my wife and sons.  I also derive great 
satisfaction from watching them ride bikes that I built up and maintain for 
them!  It doesn't get much better!

Erl
(Now back home in Kensington, MD)

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[RBW] FS

[Carla Waugh]

For sale Chico regular handlebars off of an Appaloosa and Nitto stem. Towards 
the end of the bars I see a small scratch. They were installed at Riv and 
reinstalled at our shop. They both are in very good shape and were removed 
after the first couple of rides. 75.00 for bars and 50.00 for stem. I'm doing 
this for my brother in law. He would like to trade and whatever it might 
involve a large olive Sackville Trunk bag in great shape.If you have one please 
let me know. If you want one or both parts please let me know. The parts are in 
Norman Oklahoma 73069.

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[RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[Garth]

Firstly, not all Sugino cranks are labeled as 9/8/7 speed, the Mighty Tour 
110 double and or triple is called a 10 speed. 

2.  The only difference it seemsFrom here, reply #13 and 15,  

* "10 speed cranks offset the rings apart 7mm vs. 6mm for 9 speed cranks. 
(According to a machinist in the Frame forum who measured.) I suppose to 
gain more cross chain clearance in the small ring and link alignment while 
shifting for the 2 special 10 speed ring sets. *"




*"The wider 7mm ring-center to ring-center spacing of 10 speed is 
ironically the same space that 7/8 speed rings had - meaning you can update 
an older crank if you want with new 9/10 speed rings assuming the bolt 
patterns are compatible. As to the 10 speed chain on the 9s rings... yes 
that will work fine."  *4. So in real world use it may not affect anything 
using a 9 sp crank and 10 sp. cogset. 

5. Frankly, I have been riding on Origin 8 110 double cranks for a year and 
am quite happy. The sell for $50 with a nice silver finish. I can honestly 
say these feel notably stiffer and thicker than the XD's which they 
replaced, at least the 3 pair I had. Standing I can tell. I had not ridden 
a double in a long time, and it reminded me of how much I love doubles. 
36/50 rings and a 13-32 sp. FW. And I do love the big rings and big cogs, I 
never liked the small small stuff, just never made sense to me. 

I used to believe more $$ always gave you more ... it never did. 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AOA6PK/ref=twister_B00R6R3ZPM


On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 2:40:23 PM UTC-4, Daniel D. wrote:
>
>
> Another thing was reading that the silver and sugino cranks are not 
> 10-speed friendly.  I like my current setup with SRAM bar ends, friction in 
> the front and 10-speed indexing in the rear.  But after checking out prices 
> and availability going to 9-speed isn't a big deal
>
> Thanks, Kellie.  We should ride again soon.  Definitely when I have a new 
> steed to show off.
>
> On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 5:25:30 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>>
>> Congrats Daniel or your order! You are going *to love it!*
>>
>  
> Without that first visit to Riv HQ, unlikely I would've considered a 
> purchase from Rivendell.
>
> On Sunday, August 13, 2017 at 2:23:25 AM UTC-7, REC wrote:
>>
>> Still, without having a local dealer with built up stock, I never would 
>> have made this first purchase.
>>
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Boulder Tips

[Steve Palincsar]

On 08/15/2017 07:13 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Colorado is microbrew haven for the prepubescent whisky. Enjoy! If you 
find yourself down Colorado Springs' way, holler!


Now that doesn't mean moonshine, does it?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Boulder Tips

[Deacon Patrick]

Ha! To make whiskey, make beer, then distill it. Thus, prepubescent whiskey 
is beer.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 5:15:03 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>
> On 08/15/2017 07:13 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
> > Colorado is microbrew haven for the prepubescent whisky. Enjoy! If you 
> > find yourself down Colorado Springs' way, holler! 
>
> Now that doesn't mean moonshine, does it? 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

[Ron Mc]

The French get more paid holidays than any other nation on the planet.  

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 8:26:21 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> Huh?

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[RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

[iamkeith]

I guess i don't see how that could be considered a high or artificially 
driven-up price.  It's still considerably less than any current, lugged 
production frame - US or otherwise - and,  in near perfect condition, has just 
as much life left in it.  It's also historically significant and more unique 
with those lugs and that crown.  On the other hand, in contrast to the 
Sachs-built frame being discussed concurrently, it doesn't suffer from the 
baggage of being a custom, and the idea that it was 'too' unique, and built for 
a specific person.  I guess I understand that some people might think that a 
used bike should always be obtainable for bargain prices, but not me.  If i was 
in the market for a road frame and this one fit, I'd choose it over a roadeo in 
a heartbeat, even at the same price.  Unique is good.

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[RBW] Silver crankset not 10 speed friendly?

[Joe Bernard]

He actually says "not good for 10 or 11”, and I suspect Grant is practicing a 
bit of 'liability speak' so you can't yell at him for dropping your 11-speed 
chain between rings on his cranks. My Silver double-plus-guard shifts great 
with a 9-speed chain, I think you'll be ok with a 10. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[Daniel D.]

If I end up doing the build instead of letting riv handle it, considering the 
IRD Defiant cranks

 
http://www.interlocracing.com/crank-arms-chainrings/defiant-wide-compact-road-crank-set
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Boulder Tips

[Bill M.]

Whiskey is beer concentrate, a much more portable potable.  

Bill
Stockton, CA

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 4:26:22 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Ha! To make whiskey, make beer, then distill it. Thus, prepubescent 
> whiskey is beer.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 5:15:03 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/15/2017 07:13 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
>> > Colorado is microbrew haven for the prepubescent whisky. Enjoy! If you 
>> > find yourself down Colorado Springs' way, holler! 
>>
>> Now that doesn't mean moonshine, does it? 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

[Mattt]

The final price was about $1,500.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roast your own coffee?

[Deacon Patrick]

Lee, you're conflating two people and certainly insulting Tim in the 
process. Grin.

Yes. You can use a saucepan and wood spoon to constantly stir a pound of 
beans on medium heat that will yield 14ish ounces. 1-3 days before that 
runs out, roast some more. You'll spend about 20 minutes per roast, set up, 
roasting, and clean up all said once you get familiar (which will take you 
one time. Seriously. It's easy.). If you like it and want a machine 
dedicated to roasting, go for a roaster after you've experienced it the 
saucepan way.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 4:22:32 PM UTC-6, Lee Legrand wrote:
>
> So Deacon Peterson,
>
> If a person wanted good coffee every morning without spending so much time 
> because they have to get to work, it is better to roast the beans for a 3 
> day supply then on day of use,measure, grind, brew, press, sip?
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:09 PM, 'tim petersen' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> I follow the same process as you except I stick with 1 pound batches for 
>> roasting.  Great minds think alike I guess.  I don't have a problem with 
>> cold weather roasting (even though I live in SE Minnesota) with the Behmor 
>> 1600 since I store the machine in the house between roasts and my garage 
>> will get down to a minimum of 20 plus degrees in the dead of winter.  
>> Do you have a sense of why you had a fire?
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 13, 2017, 2:09:27 PM CDT, ADH > > wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've been roasting for over 20 years. Started with a Freshroast and have 
>> had a Behmor for probably 10 years. All my beans have always come from 
>> Sweet Maria's. One great reason to buy from them is that Tom (the owner) 
>> travels around the world to source beans and he pays way more than Fair 
>> Trade prices to the farmers. He pays directly to most growers and has 
>> long-term relationships around the world.
>>
>> I agree with most every comment so far. Roasting is WAY cheaper than 
>> buying good roasted beans. Most Maria's beans are about $6+ a lb (order in 
>> bulk and shipping only adds another $0.50 a lb). Note that beans lose some 
>> of their weight during the roasting process, so your 16 oz. roast may net 
>> at 14 oz. 
>>
>> I never tried the popper/heat gun/economical methods. Here's how I would 
>> make the decision. Buying a Behmor breaks even at roughly 50 lbs of coffee 
>> (figuring $6/lb between roasting and retail. Maria's sells it for $369 
>> which includes 8 lbs of beans). So, if you use a pound a week, it'd be a 
>> year or so. BUT... if it's not something you decide to do long-term, you 
>> can easily sell a used Behmor on eBay for probably 75% of what you paid for 
>> it. So that's the math. 
>>
>> As for the "experience"... it's not exactly set and forget. I used to 
>> roast small batches frequently because... the coffee police say beans need 
>> to be... perfect and perfectly fresh. Some years ago I decided that it just 
>> didn't matter that much. Most times when I drink coffee, I just drink 
>> coffee and don't think about whether it has hints of dried fruit, molasses, 
>> and dense chocolate, or it's floral with citrus overtones. My ritual now is 
>> to roast 3 lbs of beans consecutively in one pound batches (that I throw in 
>> the freezer). I do not wait an hour for the Behmor to cool down. I don't 
>> pre-heat. I don't check voltage and I don't vary from the automatic 
>> program. I hit the 1 lb button and start. When I hear the first crack I 
>> press the C button. This batching method takes about an hour (20 mins a 
>> roast). I do it outside. The Behmor has two quirks, both of which are 
>> irritating. One, as mentioned, is that it won't work in low temps. I live 
>> near Boston, so that is a pain. Second, there is an insanity inducing 
>> requirement to press the Start button when the roast is 75% done, otherwise 
>> the machine shuts down. The purpose is so you don't walk away from the 
>> machine during a roast because it can catch on fire (which I can attest 
>> to). But there is no audible alarm, so it's a pain. Another "chore" is 
>> cleaning it. I use a Dustbuster to clean out the chaff between roasts. And 
>> every 5 lbs you need to Simple Green the inside. Have I convinced you it's 
>> too hard? Hope not. I've been doing it for 20 years and I am not a coffee 
>> snob. I do it because...
>>
>> I love good coffee that is not overroasted (which means no Starbucks, 
>> etc.). The coffee I like costs $12-15/lb. retail, which kills me. I also 
>> enjoy the process of roasting beans. I read or listen to music for the hour 
>> or so it takes. I don't mind cleaning the machine. I also love my own 
>> coffee enough that I rarely buy a cup retail (I used to buy a to-go cup or 
>> two of coffee at least once a weekday... that was probably $1000/year). 
>> After 20 years, I have probably saved at least $5000 on the roast side and 
>> $15-20,000 not buying to-go 

[RBW] Re: Boulder Tips

[Deacon Patrick]

Colorado is microbrew haven for the prepubescent whisky. Enjoy! If you find 
yourself down Colorado Springs' way, holler!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 3:27:47 PM UTC-6, Minh wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm heading to Boulder next month, there seems to be a few locals here? 
>  I'm not bringing a bike but could use a few tips on trails--either hiking 
> or trail running.  I like peace and quiet so would prefer those types of 
> trails (if possible).   I'll have a car so getting around won't be a 
> problem.   
>
> I'll also take any food suggestions you may have--not much of a drinker 
> though but you can offer your beer suggestions for the crowd!  Thanks for 
> any tips.
>
> Minh
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[RBW] Jan's Yellow Rivendell

[christian poppell]

Who got it? Anyone on here? Great color! Anyone else think that the 
pedigree of the owner drove the price up a little bit?




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[RBW] Talking of svelte cranks ...

[Patrick Moore]

Changing the thread: Forget the Silver cranks; Rivendell should remake one
of these.

http://bicyclespecialties.blogspot.com/2009/03/aluminum-and-steel-cranks.html

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[RBW] Silver crankset not 10 speed friendly?

[wesleya]

CYB. They aren't designed for 10-speeds, though they may work perfectly well 
with them. I think cranksets are notorious for this.

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[RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

[christian poppell]

$1,426.00

Link to Jan's blog entry about Rivendell: 
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2017/07/22/1995-rivendell-turning-the-tide/

Link to ebay listing: http://m.ebay.com/itm/232420852275?_mwBanner=1

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

[cyclotourist]

Pictures, Steve!!!

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 5:25 PM, 'Steve' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> RS2...As the owner of RS1, never thought I'd see RS2 or RS3 in the wild...
>
> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 9:58:00 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Doug, That's my friend Bryn's bike! You rode with her and Arlo at least
>> once: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4469017732/
>>
>> Here's a photo to show how fast she can go on it:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4469041906/
>>
>> The frame was made in the transitional years after Joe Stark and Curt
>> Goodrich stopped building, and when Grant was trying on different builders
>> for size. Richard Sachs built three Rivendell customs, of which this is
>> frame number two (RS2).
>> If it fits you or someone you care about, would be a GREAT road bike.
>> Classic road geometry, fits a 32mm. I always kept bugging her to do a 650B
>> conversion on it, as I think it begs for one! Classic garage queen, she
>> rides her MTB and now her Salsa XC bike a lot more. This one has had
>> probably less than 50 miles since purchasing the Salsa in 2010. Unmentioned
>> is that it also has a TA Zephyr triple crankset, the best crankset ever
>> made according to some highly biased people.
>>
>> They are flexible on price, so don't let the asking price scare you off.
>> They're hoping for an off-shore collector type with petro-dollars to burn
>> that will swoop in and grab it. If that's not you, drop 'em a line and work
>> something out!
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 2:46:43 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>>>
>>> All things considered, this one could be considered a collector's item.
>>> Hopefully someone will jump on it & ride it.
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 2:39:20 PM UTC-7, Beaverton Bob wrote:

 https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/richard-sachs-buil
 t-custom/6238145416.html

 Thought it would be interesting for the group to see this!

 Ride Safely,
 Beaverton Bob

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Re: [RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

[Steve Palincsar]

Just don't forget, it's August and France is closed for vacation, 
Berthoud included.



On 08/15/2017 05:47 PM, lum gim fong wrote:

Thanks for the referrals. I scoped these out yesterday.

All these stores, including Gilles himself are currently outta stock of H 121 
threaded and H 91 threaded. Im guessing you meant Bike touring news store?

I have an email into bike touring and Gilles about eta. Hope they arent 
discontinued. Seems like only aheadset versions available now.



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[RBW] Re: Jan's Yellow Rivendell

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

What was the final hammer price? I agree, a fun color. I had a 1997 or 98 
Ritchey Road Logic in a very similar shade of yellow.

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 8:27:11 PM UTC-4, christian poppell wrote:
>
> Who got it? Anyone on here? Great color! Anyone else think that the 
> pedigree of the owner drove the price up a little bit?
>
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Romulus birthday ride

[Tony DeFilippo]

What a great birthday celebration! Thanks for the great visual tour of your 
family's bikes to.

Tony

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Romulus birthday ride

[John G.]

Lots of great riding on the Cape! The full Cape Cod Rail Trail from Dennis 
to the National Seashore is delightful, especially off-season or early in 
the morning. There's also some great riding between Falmouth and Hyannis on 
some low-traffic roads. Many of the shops have great maps. 

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 3:11:31 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
>
> While vacationing in Cape Cod my family went biking with me on my 
> birthday. Details and photos here: 
> https://lightofferings.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/cape-cod-birthday-ride/
>
> I enjoy every opportunity to ride with my wife and sons.  I also derive 
> great satisfaction from watching them ride bikes that I built up and 
> maintain for them!  It doesn't get much better!
>
> Erl
> (Now back home in Kensington, MD)
>
>

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[RBW] Boulder Tips

[Michael Morrissey]

Rent a full suspension mountain bike from University Cycles and take it on the 
trails! Also check out the Pros Closet Mountain Bike museum!

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Re: [RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

[lum gim fong]

Huh?

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Romulus birthday ride

[dougP]

It doesn't get any better thank riding with your whole family, and everyone 
enjoying it.  8 miles for ice cream sounds like a pleasant ride.  Happy 
Birthday!

dougP

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> While vacationing in Cape Cod my family went biking with me on my 
> birthday. Details and photos here: 
> https://lightofferings.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/cape-cod-birthday-ride/
>
> I enjoy every opportunity to ride with my wife and sons.  I also derive 
> great satisfaction from watching them ride bikes that I built up and 
> maintain for them!  It doesn't get much better!
>
> Erl
> (Now back home in Kensington, MD)
>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

['Steve' via RBW Owners Bunch]

RS2...As the owner of RS1, never thought I'd see RS2 or RS3 in the wild...

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 9:58:00 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Doug, That's my friend Bryn's bike! You rode with her and Arlo at least 
> once: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4469017732/
>  
> Here's a photo to show how fast she can go on it: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4469041906/ 
>
> The frame was made in the transitional years after Joe Stark and Curt 
> Goodrich stopped building, and when Grant was trying on different builders 
> for size. Richard Sachs built three Rivendell customs, of which this is 
> frame number two (RS2).
> If it fits you or someone you care about, would be a GREAT road bike. 
> Classic road geometry, fits a 32mm. I always kept bugging her to do a 650B 
> conversion on it, as I think it begs for one! Classic garage queen, she 
> rides her MTB and now her Salsa XC bike a lot more. This one has had 
> probably less than 50 miles since purchasing the Salsa in 2010. Unmentioned 
> is that it also has a TA Zephyr triple crankset, the best crankset ever 
> made according to some highly biased people.
>
> They are flexible on price, so don't let the asking price scare you off. 
> They're hoping for an off-shore collector type with petro-dollars to burn 
> that will swoop in and grab it. If that's not you, drop 'em a line and work 
> something out!
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 2:46:43 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>>
>> All things considered, this one could be considered a collector's item.  
>> Hopefully someone will jump on it & ride it.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 2:39:20 PM UTC-7, Beaverton Bob wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/richard-sachs-built-custom/6238145416.html
>>>
>>> Thought it would be interesting for the group to see this!
>>>
>>> Ride Safely,
>>> Beaverton Bob
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roast your own coffee?

[Lee Legrand]

My apologies Deacon Patrick.  For some reason, I saw Peterson after Deacon
on the screen. LOL

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Lee, you're conflating two people and certainly insulting Tim in the
> process. Grin.
>
> Yes. You can use a saucepan and wood spoon to constantly stir a pound of
> beans on medium heat that will yield 14ish ounces. 1-3 days before that
> runs out, roast some more. You'll spend about 20 minutes per roast, set up,
> roasting, and clean up all said once you get familiar (which will take you
> one time. Seriously. It's easy.). If you like it and want a machine
> dedicated to roasting, go for a roaster after you've experienced it the
> saucepan way.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 4:22:32 PM UTC-6, Lee Legrand wrote:
>>
>> So Deacon Peterson,
>>
>> If a person wanted good coffee every morning without spending so much
>> time because they have to get to work, it is better to roast the beans for
>> a 3 day supply then on day of use,measure, grind, brew, press, sip?
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:09 PM, 'tim petersen' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I follow the same process as you except I stick with 1 pound batches for
>>> roasting.  Great minds think alike I guess.  I don't have a problem with
>>> cold weather roasting (even though I live in SE Minnesota) with the Behmor
>>> 1600 since I store the machine in the house between roasts and my garage
>>> will get down to a minimum of 20 plus degrees in the dead of winter.
>>> Do you have a sense of why you had a fire?
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2017, 2:09:27 PM CDT, ADH 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been roasting for over 20 years. Started with a Freshroast and have
>>> had a Behmor for probably 10 years. All my beans have always come from
>>> Sweet Maria's. One great reason to buy from them is that Tom (the owner)
>>> travels around the world to source beans and he pays way more than Fair
>>> Trade prices to the farmers. He pays directly to most growers and has
>>> long-term relationships around the world.
>>>
>>> I agree with most every comment so far. Roasting is WAY cheaper than
>>> buying good roasted beans. Most Maria's beans are about $6+ a lb (order in
>>> bulk and shipping only adds another $0.50 a lb). Note that beans lose some
>>> of their weight during the roasting process, so your 16 oz. roast may net
>>> at 14 oz.
>>>
>>> I never tried the popper/heat gun/economical methods. Here's how I would
>>> make the decision. Buying a Behmor breaks even at roughly 50 lbs of coffee
>>> (figuring $6/lb between roasting and retail. Maria's sells it for $369
>>> which includes 8 lbs of beans). So, if you use a pound a week, it'd be a
>>> year or so. BUT... if it's not something you decide to do long-term, you
>>> can easily sell a used Behmor on eBay for probably 75% of what you paid for
>>> it. So that's the math.
>>>
>>> As for the "experience"... it's not exactly set and forget. I used to
>>> roast small batches frequently because... the coffee police say beans need
>>> to be... perfect and perfectly fresh. Some years ago I decided that it just
>>> didn't matter that much. Most times when I drink coffee, I just drink
>>> coffee and don't think about whether it has hints of dried fruit, molasses,
>>> and dense chocolate, or it's floral with citrus overtones. My ritual now is
>>> to roast 3 lbs of beans consecutively in one pound batches (that I throw in
>>> the freezer). I do not wait an hour for the Behmor to cool down. I don't
>>> pre-heat. I don't check voltage and I don't vary from the automatic
>>> program. I hit the 1 lb button and start. When I hear the first crack I
>>> press the C button. This batching method takes about an hour (20 mins a
>>> roast). I do it outside. The Behmor has two quirks, both of which are
>>> irritating. One, as mentioned, is that it won't work in low temps. I live
>>> near Boston, so that is a pain. Second, there is an insanity inducing
>>> requirement to press the Start button when the roast is 75% done, otherwise
>>> the machine shuts down. The purpose is so you don't walk away from the
>>> machine during a roast because it can catch on fire (which I can attest
>>> to). But there is no audible alarm, so it's a pain. Another "chore" is
>>> cleaning it. I use a Dustbuster to clean out the chaff between roasts. And
>>> every 5 lbs you need to Simple Green the inside. Have I convinced you it's
>>> too hard? Hope not. I've been doing it for 20 years and I am not a coffee
>>> snob. I do it because...
>>>
>>> I love good coffee that is not overroasted (which means no Starbucks,
>>> etc.). The coffee I like costs $12-15/lb. retail, which kills me. I also
>>> enjoy the process of roasting beans. I read or listen to music for the hour
>>> or so it takes. I don't mind cleaning the machine. I also love my own
>>> coffee enough that I rarely buy a cup retail (I used 

Re: [RBW] Jan's Yellow Rivendell

[Patrick Moore]

Does anyone know the date, the angles, size, tubing, etc? I know Jan wrote
it up years ago, and then, briefly, more recently, but I'm curious if it
follows or deviates from the usual Grantian design.

I rather like the bright yellow.

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 6:27 PM, christian poppell 
wrote:

> Who got it? Anyone on here? Great color! Anyone else think that the
> pedigree of the owner drove the price up a little bit?
>
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Talking of svelte cranks ...

[William!]

Coming to a 1x setup near you

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Re: [RBW] Hitch rack recommendations?

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

> A friend has a really nicely designed rack from 1UPUSA. Two arms come up 
> and grab each tire, so the bike sits flat in the tray with nothing touching 
> paint. It was quick to load and unload. The trays held tires up to 3inch in 
> diameter. It ain't cheap.
>
 https://www.1upusa.com/bicycleracks.html

 

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

[Ed Carolipio]

I have the Swagman XTC2 rack which is similar to the Hollywood one but IMO 
the fit and finish on the Swagman is a little nicer. (I've owned both.) 
I've had no issues with fenders, racks, or mixte frames, and I've even 
hauled our Xtracycle Edgerunner (long tail cargo bike) with room to spare. 
Not as fancy as the Thule so it costs less.

http://www.swagman.net/product/x-tc2/

It doesn't come with a decent integrated system to lock the bike or the 
hitch bolt. (Workarounds are, of course, available.) There's no mechanism 
to move the bike out of the way to open the trunk or tailgate, so I just 
plan accordingly. And I wouldn't use it with a carbon fiber frame.

As a side comment, I personally would be reluctant to get the Thule rack 
you link. It's a great rack but I don't like how it doesn't fold compactly 
when off the car. Platform racks are large and oddly shaped, so the ones 
I've owned have been a pain to store. With lots of room, that wouldn't be 
an issue, but garage space for me is a rare and precious commodity.

--Ed C.

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:11:07 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>
> Shopping for a rack for my car, so I can get my bike to farther flung 
> locations, and I'm realizing that most hitch racks require a naked front 
> wheel. I need one that allows me to have a small rack and Wald 137 on the 
> front. I'm considering the Thule DoubleTrack Pro 
> https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks/thule-doubletrack-pro-_-1691160
>  
> but I'm wondering what riders in this group use?
>

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[RBW] Re: New Medium Saddlesack (Blue)

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Hi Tim,

"Much contempletion" has me smiling. 
I just bought a saddlesack and went through a similar thought process: blue 
vs olive, medium vs large, etc.
I ended up buying the medium and exchanging it for the large without 
installing it. Interesting that you found it looks bigger on the bike. 
Maybe I could have kept the medium and avoided the hassle. Oh, well. I'm 
happy with my decision.
And FWIW my wife rejected the blue for my gen 1 green Sam. 

Enjoy.

Jay

On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 3:37:46 AM UTC+3, Broccoli Cog wrote:

> After some contemplation and some great feedback from all of you I just 
> received my new medium Saddlesack. I am beyond happy with how awesome it 
> is. Af first when I looked at it I didn't think it would be large enough to 
> hold my S24O gear. I thought about exchanging it for the large but then I 
> put it on the bike and stuffed it with my camping gear. This bag expands 
> nicely and holds a lot! The square shape is better at swallowing up gear 
> than a standard saddle bag. In the end I think I will be happy I went with 
> the medium. I decided on the blue one which looks so much better in person! 
>
> Question about wire guards. I know that Nitto makes a nice wire guard that 
> Riv does not currently have in stock. I have Paul Racer brakes and the 
> brake cable does rub when the bag is stuffed with camping gear. I took it 
> for a test ride and found that the rear brake still functions but boy I 
> really don't like the thought of that cable rubbing on the bag. I thought 
> maybe I could ziptie the bottom of the bag to the rack but I am not sure if 
> that will be sufficient enough from preventing a bag that is stuffed full 
> from sliding forward. Until I can pick up a wireguard is their an interim 
> solution? 
>
> Tim 
>

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[RBW] PSA: Romulus for sale sighting (S coupled, 56cm)

[Bob Lovejoy]

I have no knowledge of or connection to the seller.  I also suspect this 
will not last long!

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/classifieds/?o=1mr_id=5991=5

Bob

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[RBW] Re: How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

[Ron Mc]

I've posted these before

 

Set up for a tall Acorn rando on a 25" Raleigh frame, I just measured the 
drop - right at 80mm, using the long Berthoud decaleur, with it tilted 
forward enough to grab the bag properly.  

I'm looking to buy another of these to also use the bag on my upright bike 
with Map bars in almost identical height position.  


On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:43:05 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> ...
>
> *But the main question is how much drop reach below the bars could I get? 
> Got pics of yours?*
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Medium Saddlesack (Blue)

[Broccoli Cog]

Hi Jay, I'm glad to hear that I am not the only one that struggles with 
this type of thing. Oh well, we are fortunate to have such good choices and 
the means to purchase such a gorgeous bike bag. To clarify when I put it on 
the bike I didn't think it appeared large rather I was surprised as to how 
much stuff you can pack inside. For me the choice was correct because I 
wanted it to hold my sleeping bag, tent, stove and a few other items for 
overnights. I have a Wald basket on the front with a Swift Sugarloaf bag as 
well. For me this is a perfect setup. For my next bike I may end up getting 
the large. I think there is also quite a bit of value in having that extra 
space when you need it. 

Tim

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 5:36:35 AM UTC-4, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> "Much contempletion" has me smiling. 
> I just bought a saddlesack and went through a similar thought 
> process: blue vs olive, medium vs large, etc.
> I ended up buying the medium and exchanging it for the large without 
> installing it. Interesting that you found it looks bigger on the bike. 
> Maybe I could have kept the medium and avoided the hassle. Oh, well. I'm 
> happy with my decision.
> And FWIW my wife rejected the blue for my gen 1 green Sam. 
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Jay
>
> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 3:37:46 AM UTC+3, Broccoli Cog wrote:
>
>> After some contemplation and some great feedback from all of you I just 
>> received my new medium Saddlesack. I am beyond happy with how awesome it 
>> is. Af first when I looked at it I didn't think it would be large enough to 
>> hold my S24O gear. I thought about exchanging it for the large but then I 
>> put it on the bike and stuffed it with my camping gear. This bag expands 
>> nicely and holds a lot! The square shape is better at swallowing up gear 
>> than a standard saddle bag. In the end I think I will be happy I went with 
>> the medium. I decided on the blue one which looks so much better in person! 
>>
>> Question about wire guards. I know that Nitto makes a nice wire guard 
>> that Riv does not currently have in stock. I have Paul Racer brakes and the 
>> brake cable does rub when the bag is stuffed with camping gear. I took it 
>> for a test ride and found that the rear brake still functions but boy I 
>> really don't like the thought of that cable rubbing on the bag. I thought 
>> maybe I could ziptie the bottom of the bag to the rack but I am not sure if 
>> that will be sufficient enough from preventing a bag that is stuffed full 
>> from sliding forward. Until I can pick up a wireguard is their an interim 
>> solution? 
>>
>> Tim 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I use a Transit rack that I got for $200 from Performance a few years ago. 
 It looks exactly like the 2-bike version of the Hollywood rack that Weth 
linked to above, and I love it except for one thing:  I have to secure it 
with a strap leading from the pole to the front edge of the trunk, 
tightened down to prevent bouncing.  The strap comes with the rack, but 
it's a minor hassle to install and prevents access to the trunk while it's 
installed.  The link to the Hollywood says it "features patented 'no 
wobble-no tools' hitch tightening system" which would make this perfect for 
my bikes, all of which have fenders.  I'm going to look more into the 
Hollywood when I get a chance.  

Dave
Indianapolis, IN

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Re: [RBW] How much drop from the bar can I get out of a Berthoud decaleur?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 08/15/2017 12:43 AM, lum gim fong wrote:
I want to use my Berthoud handlebar bag (GB28) from my drop bar bike 
on my Bosco bike, too. But the Bosco bars are too high for any 
decaleur to reach down to the bag, and I am not lowering by bars.


I noticed that the Berthoud decaleur looks like it has alot of 
downward reach to it.


There are (according to Peter Whiter's web site) two sizes, one with 
more downward reach than the other.   Looking at the Berthoud web site, 
I see listed for the part they call the "fork" -- you'd call it the 
arms, probably -- there's a select list with four sizes: 121, 90, 70 & 
50.  Not sure about the units, but am guessing they're mm.





Can I swivel it downward for max reach, or does it just stick out from 
the stem straight?


Yes you can, as you can see below.



About how much drop could I get cm-wise depending on which length 
extension I used?


I figure I will mount the Berthoud on-the-bag receiving rods just 
above where my Compass decaleur flat bar on the bag is.


Then I can swap the bag from bike to bike as needed.

*But the main question is how much drop reach below the bars could I 
get? Got pics of yours?*






This is a Berthoud 2886, same size as the GB28, and the bike is a 60 
cm.  The full size image is here: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/5974911747/sizes/o/


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Re: [RBW] Hitch rack recommendations?

[Tim Gavin]

John-

The Saris Superclamp has hooks that go over the top of the wheels, like
many other tray racks.

If you have fenders, then the clamp goes over the fender.  I don't trust
the security of that (my fender holding my bike up), and I think it would
eventually damage the fender.

That's why I prefer ones that clamp over the top tube, like the Thule
Double Track, Saris Freedom, or the Hollywood racks.  Most top tube clamps
are easily compatible with a mixte, without adapters.

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Surlyprof  wrote:

> I've been using a loaner where the bikes hang from the top tube.  Would
> not recommend it.  Pain to load and I can't figure out how to load my
> wife's mixte.  If I was buying one, I'd get one with wheel trays.  Also
> want it to either tip or swing out of the way of the rear door.
>  I've been curious about the new Saris.  Sounds good on their website (but
> doesn't everything?).  Here's the link:  https://www.saris.com/product/
> superclamp-ex-2?utm_campaign=superclamp_ex_medium=web&
> utm_source=homepage
>
> John
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