Re: [RBW] Re: Who is using bike lights?

[Peter White]

I think Dinotte is out of business. In the past few months I've had
numerous telephone calls from people telling me they placed an order
through the Dinotte website, paid for the order, and then got nothing.
Sounds like the payment system is still working but nothing else. They
can't contact anybody at the company.

PJW

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 8:35 PM Tom Horton  wrote:

> I would check out dinotte lights, made in u.s.a., expensive, but very
> bright and very durable. they make a couple amber front lights that are
> highly visible without being too obnoxious to oncoming traffic...one can
> even work as a headlight in full dark on the road.  I combine them with
> dynamo lights, for which peter white's website is a good resource. I own
> several dinottes and have used a couple for more than 6 years.  usb
> rechargeable for the most part.
>
> On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 5:55:05 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:
>
>> 2 close calls in one day. My red blinking cateye is useless in daylight.
>> I a interested in front and back lights to help me be more visible, your
>> thoughts and experiences are welcome.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Joel
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[RBW] WTB: 100/135 wheelset or 135mm rear wheel, light to medium duty for Toyo Atlantis

[Jay P]

Hello,

I've been watching for awhile but none have been posted recently so...

Anyone have a 135mm rear wheel   OR   wheelset, Shimano 8/9spd

Ideally something pretty nice (Phil hub?  Lesnik-built?)

I have a heavy duty wheelset for my Atlantis --- and would love to try it 
with a lighter duty set + 44mm compass tires I have on the shelf.

Please be in touch if you have something you might like to part with !

Jay P. 
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Patrick Moore]

SoCal has had respiratory-system-threatening atmospherics for decades and
decades. The year after college and before grad school I looked around for
some job and (silly me!) chose 7th/8th grade teacher at St. Philip's
Catholic school in Pasadena. I recall days when the smog was so diabolic
that the 101 fwy bridge about 160 metres (Google maps) from the parish
grounds was *invisible.* Orangey-browny obscuration that made your eyes
water.

Back then I ran, and being too lazy to get up at 5 am to do it, I did it in
the afternoons. I ran on one such hard-smog day -- Pasdena Community
College track across street -- and for days afterward I had the equivalent
of a modestly severe respiratory infection.

I do recall the rather wonderful view of flying into LA in the morning back
in the '70s and seeing the majestic vision of early morning sunlight on the
dense, opaque cloud wholly obscuring the city. What an effing monstrosity!
Bad in '70s and '90s; better now, smoke aside?





On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 5:24 PM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA <
benzouy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> which reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the thick
> brown layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my eyes.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Robert Tilley]

  It's not good up North. We typically get worse down here in the South in October when the dry Santa Ana winds start to blow in. It's been a hot summer so far so I'm not looking forward to those winds. I'll be clearing out some brush around the house soon as a preventative measure.Good luck to those currently affected!Robert TilleySan Diego, CA Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   From: benzouy...@gmail.comSent: August 22, 2020 4:24 PMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires  Here's a website that can convey the extent of the wildfires. Remember that the areas in darker red are burning, and the areas in lighter red (orange?) are under an evacuation order (meaning residents need to pack up and leave). Even in Silicon Valley, the air quality is bad enough that friends with asthma are avoiding any outdoor activities in fear of exacerbation. Even indoors, my eyes are beginning to water a bit, which reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the thick brown layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my eyes.On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 1:56:40 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Yes, CA Friends, you’re on my mind every day. Our air is hazy all the way in Vegas, so I can’t imagine what it’s like for our Californian friends. Are you out there riding in the smoke and ash-filled air? Staying in? Anyone having to evacuate?2020...the hits just keep coming. I’m so sorry, and I hope you’re safe. ❤️On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:Wow. Again, best wishes and a prayer.I laughed at your signature.On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:55 PM Philip Williamson  wrote:Thanks Patrick. As my friend at Tilted Shed Ciderworks said on Monday, “Here we go again.”Looks like the roads I rode last weekend are now either evacuated or burned out. Dozens of acquaintances are evacuated, and the smoke and heat are oppressive. The wind just picked up, and we may have more dry lightning on Sunday. Waking up in a sleeping bag by the ocean to the End Times Thunder and Lighting Show was pretty intense. “Oh this will go down in the oral histories.”PhilipGlobal Warming, CAOn Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s, college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which have been rather apocalyptic.I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.Is Walnut Creek affected?I hope all living there and reading this are safe. Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most fire fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to the Rio Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire, after which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported willows and other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a charcoal grill.-- ---Patrick MooreAlburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum




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[RBW] Re: Tires and seat posts more important for comfort than frame material?

[ascpgh]

If you narrow from a complicated system a single variable and measure it 
with a selection of test items, you'll get data. Yes, a rigid frame's seat 
post, saddle, wheel components and tires will contribute more to "comfort" 
if you say vertical compliance equals comfort. What about lateral 
compliance? Am I a loser or a non-cyclist because I value that? 

The premise that aluminum frames are generally maligned as "uncomfortable" 
may be true, but vertical compliance is but a single variable found in 
complete bikes. If everything is harmonious, many factors will contribute 
to that measures feature. 

When I see a bike frame in a jig I hope it's for alignment, repair or 
construction because if it's for testing to imply general conclusions about 
bikes  (which have wheels, tires, crank arms, stems, handlebars and seats 
in addition to seat posts), I cringe because of all the previous incarnate 
machines' testing which purportedly sort out the entire how and with what 
you build bikes question once and for all. 

The reason we all spend time riding bikes, optimizing them, talking about 
them and enjoying riding them as well as the experiences and discoveries of 
others like us is that they are such simple appearing yet complex things 
that easily elude jigged frame analysis. The variables of a bike and their 
hierarchy of importance depends on the individual rider and we all know 
there is a vast spectrum of those. That is the first generalization I take 
offensively whenever analysis occurs. The assumption that every rider needs 
"X" then leads to isolating what varies "X" and pacing examples on a scale 
from good to bad. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 10:06:46 PM UTC-4 tc wrote:

> Well-presented study of what affects comfort:
> https://youtu.be/Lb4ktAbmr_4
>
> Tom
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[RBW] Re: Orange Sam in the House

[Joel]

Very nice, enjoy.  

On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 6:34:35 PM UTC-4, Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
> After about 16 or 17 years I have another Riv.
>
> It's an almost perfect low miles Sam from 2018 I think.
>
> It's the model with caliper brakes.
>
> It was too tall for previous owner and he barely used it.
>
> Mustache bars came on it and I switched to North Road style bars plus 
> changed derailers and few other things.
>
> Well, basically I changed everything but calipers and headset.
>
> Its definitely putting a smile on my face!
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>
> [image: Image] 
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> [image: Image] 
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Re: [RBW] Re: I found a nice shoe for riding without clips and straps

[Joel Stern]

Jack, I sold a few pair on these lists and eBay.  Top dollar on eBay.  I
lived those shoes for my narrow feet.  All gone now.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 1:18 PM Jack K  wrote:

> Joel wrote:
>
>> Now those look like bike shoes.  I used to wear ones like these for
>> years.
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133495378494
>>
>
>  I recently listed a NOS pair of those Sidi Touring shoes on ebay and they
> sold within minutes to a guy in Japan. Fastest eBay sale ever ...  It would
> appear there are folks who like those Sidi shoes enough to have automated
> searches constantly watching for them. They are really nice cyclo shoes.
>
> -Jack
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Re: [RBW] Who is using bike lights?

[ascpgh]

Autocorrect error: should have been "*...instantly redeemable bad karma...*
" 


Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 8:07:07 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> "Day rated" lighting has been heavily abused into the dusk and dark by 
> consumer grade cyclists, each flash burning a point of your retina out of 
> service until adequate refractory time has allowed it to normalize. 
>
> A drivers field of vision in the daytime is a vast image with lots of 
> complexity that can be data overload. A point of light, flashing or solid, 
> being noted, recognized and acknowledged by action in that setting is not 
> the best bet. Presenting a larger area of contrast is the best tool for 
> getting drivers to see you in that image. The nominal brain function they 
> demonstrate at the wheel is on what they are driving (their lane) and what 
> they do not (the lines, the grass, objects, etc.). You want to graduate to 
> the latter by your choices. That driver's image processing of you in the 
> roadway, recognizing something they do not want to drive on depends on 
> their processing that image with either your nearly laser pointer tail 
> light or a neon Hi-Viz vest. If it's daylight, I'm going with the vest.   
>
> One situation not fully aided by high visibility or reflective "safety" 
> vests is fog. I had a near miss event with a soldier directing traffic in 
> full "safety" garb along a public roadway at a vehicle recovery scene. I 
> came immediately to assess and as I pulled up I saw how the reflective 
> vests on the soldiers were invisible, headlight output was so diffused by 
> the fog and what little reached the reflective cloth was diffused with 
> nothing defining returning to my eyes. I could only make out the vests in 
> the growing ambience of dawn's light as the sun neared rising. After that, 
>  if fog was present we added cyalume light sticks in an elastic band sewn 
> like a bandolier for bullets around the vests. Light having to go one way 
> was a more visible precaution and was seen from greater distance than the 
> highest level reflective material, even if local buffoons drove past 
> multiple vehicles with flashing four ways parked both to provide alert to 
> oncoming vehicles and provide cover to the dismounted.
>
> There is a waiting room in Hell with a bench reserved for cyclists who 
> ride in the dusk or dark of night with daytime flashing lights, 
> reservations made with the intently redeemable bad karma their harm did to 
> other cyclists trying to follow them.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
>
> On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 6:58:14 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Joel:
>>
>> There are many lights out there that will make you more visible to 
>> vehicles, but I wouldn’t bet my life on any of them. I believe there’s more 
>> safety in being aware of what’s happening around you at all times, wearing 
>> brightly colored/contrasting clothing, and assuming that motorists don’t 
>> see you.
>>
>> If you *do* use lights bright enough to be seen in daylight, I beg you to 
>> think twice about using them at night. The new super-bright taillights, 
>> when used at night, make it impossible for anyone to ride behind you 
>> safely. All the person behind you can see is a bright red glow. 
>>
>> I’ve ranted about this before, so I won’t go on much longer here. But … 
>> please be considerate of anyone behind you—and people coming at you on the 
>> bike trail and end up getting blasted by your daylight-bright headlight.
>>
>> I recommend a taillight like the PDW “Daybot,” which offers a bright 
>> daytime option and a less bright (but still bright enough) nighttime 
>> setting that also provides longer runtimes (because no taillight will work 
>> with dead batteries).
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>>
>> On Aug 20, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Joel  wrote:
>>
>> 2 close calls in one day. My red blinking cateye is useless in daylight. 
>>  I a interested in front and back lights to help me be more visible, your 
>> thoughts and experiences are welcome.
>>
>> Thanks 
>>
>> Joel
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Re: [RBW] While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[ascpgh]

Picture says a thousand words!

I spent the night in North Newton on my way across the country on my orange 
Rambouillet in 2002.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 9:52:34 PM UTC-4 sprun...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am enjoying this thread. It's fun to see Rivendell sensibilities latent 
> even in childhood.
>
> Here's a picture of me, circa 1967 in North Newton, Kansas, on my Schwinn 
> Bantam. You'll have to take my word that it was bright red. Note that 
> generous basket. This bike featured a removable top tube. My dad took it 
> off for my sister and put it back on when it was my brother's turn to start 
> riding. The Bantam was eventually given to a neighbor with young children, 
> but it was in rough shape by then. The basket, top tube, and fenders were 
> long gone, no doubt due to our mechanical exploration.
>
> We were each promoted to a Schwinn Typhoon or Hollywood once we outgrew 
> the Bantam, but I have not been able to find any pictures of me with my 
> copper Typhoon.
>
> David Sprunger
> Fargo, ND
> [image: firstbike.JPG]
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 9:20 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is a thread that will veer just a bit from the normal subject 
>> matter. But it has been 112 degrees today, and we have to do something 
>> while we wait for our Platypus bikes. Going for a walk down memory lane is 
>> what we’re doing.
>>
>> I recently found this treasure. Pictured is me, at 5 years old with my 
>> very first bike. My parents purchased it at a garage sale from a family in 
>> town. It was a Huffy Desert Rose (long, dramatic, wistful sigh here).The 
>> story was that the bike had been backed over but -yay!- the man of the 
>> house had welded the bike back into working order. I was THRILLED. I never 
>> had training wheels - I learned by taking off and crashing all over the 
>> neighborhood. I didn’t care if I was missing a lot of hide; I had wheels 
>> and I was going places in my tiny North Dakota town.
>>
>> I would like to take this time to point out several things...
>>
>> 1. I really think they nailed the saddle height on the first try.
>>
>> 2. My bike had fenders! And they were clearly for decoration only.
>>
>> 3. What shoes was I wearing? I don’t know, but what I can tell you I 
>> didn’t trouble myself with socks. 
>>
>> 4. My celebrity lookalike was Mowgli from the Jungle Book. 
>>
>> 6. Banana seats > Brooks saddles.
>>
>> 7. No need for racks/baskets. I put a friend or a little sister on the 
>> banana seat and SHE carried the goods.
>>
>> 8. Kids were tougher in the 80s. That bike was huge for 5-year-old me, 
>> but I rode it. Pedaling that bike felt like being stuck in the hardest gear 
>> going uphill always (the welder dad overestimated his abilities), but I 
>> rode the wheels off of it..most likely with flat tires.
>>
>> In closing, I might also point out that I was into Rivendell before 
>> Rivendell was into Rivendell. Compare the Huffy with my Clementine - I was 
>> an early adopter.
>>
>> This was the day the love affair began, friends. I am so happy to have a 
>> photo of it. Who else has a story about their first bike? Bonus points if 
>> you can also provide photos.
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> [image: 9836764F-6714-4872-9033-F9C64A034A14.jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: Orange Sam in the House

['Je Mar' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Really nice, Paul...a beauty.


On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 6:44:58 AM UTC-4 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> Thanks Mark.
>
> I've had quite a few vintage mt bikes set up 'Riv' style particularly in 
> the cockpit with 'upright' bars,
> quality fatter tires and practical gearing making for comfortable and fun 
> bikes to ride on a modest budget.
>
> Also, I've had several nice vintage touring bikes come through the bike 
> stable also set up similarly.
> (Have two now.)
>
> For my personal riding I give a slight edge to the touring bikes over the 
> made over mt bikes as I tend to be a tad faster on them for some reason, 
> perhaps the lighter tubing on their frames.
> The old tourers do have have more limits on tire sizes.
>
> The 'faster' aspect is very relative as I've grown old and much slower
>
> (Actually was never very fast)
>
> Quantifying these things is not my strong suit.
>
> Mind you,  my previous and only other Riv was a custom road I bought from 
> Grant all the way back in 1999 and owned about 4 or 5 years so it's been 16 
> or 17 years since last owning a Riv.
>
> (Regretted selling it but that was during my phase of trying for lighter 
> and faster bikes.)
>
> Now with my new to me Riv...
> I can tell a difference.
>
> Only 28 miles on it since picking it up Tuesday morning but it just feels 
> so comfortable, stable
> and seems to want to just go.
> Perhaps responsive to my input is one way to put it.
>
> Its definitely putting a wide grin on my face!
>
> Another plus is when stopping for a break I get to admire the overall 
> beauty of it and the many cool small details.
>
> To sum up, I'm loving it more each ride. It does have a quality I've 
> really not quantified very well putting it at a few notches above my other 
> bikes.
>
> I'll continue to mull it over as I continue riding it with a big smile.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
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[RBW] Re: I found a nice shoe for riding without clips and straps

[Jack K]

Joel wrote:

> Now those look like bike shoes.  I used to wear ones like these for years. 
>  
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133495378494
>

 I recently listed a NOS pair of those Sidi Touring shoes on ebay and they 
sold within minutes to a guy in Japan. Fastest eBay sale ever ...  It would 
appear there are folks who like those Sidi shoes enough to have automated 
searches constantly watching for them. They are really nice cyclo shoes.

-Jack

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Billie Bar

[☆ Paul ☆]

Does anyone have a Billie bar they'd like to sell?

Happy to pay for it, or can trade a Bosco aluminum, Choco, or North Road 
bar for it! 

THANK YOU!

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Re: [RBW] Who is using bike lights?

[ascpgh]

"Day rated" lighting has been heavily abused into the dusk and dark by 
consumer grade cyclists, each flash burning a point of your retina out of 
service until adequate refractory time has allowed it to normalize. 

A drivers field of vision in the daytime is a vast image with lots of 
complexity that can be data overload. A point of light, flashing or solid, 
being noted, recognized and acknowledged by action in that setting is not 
the best bet. Presenting a larger area of contrast is the best tool for 
getting drivers to see you in that image. The nominal brain function they 
demonstrate at the wheel is on what they are driving (their lane) and what 
they do not (the lines, the grass, objects, etc.). You want to graduate to 
the latter by your choices. That driver's image processing of you in the 
roadway, recognizing something they do not want to drive on depends on 
their processing that image with either your nearly laser pointer tail 
light or a neon Hi-Viz vest. If it's daylight, I'm going with the vest.   

One situation not fully aided by high visibility or reflective "safety" 
vests is fog. I had a near miss event with a soldier directing traffic in 
full "safety" garb along a public roadway at a vehicle recovery scene. I 
came immediately to assess and as I pulled up I saw how the reflective 
vests on the soldiers were invisible, headlight output was so diffused by 
the fog and what little reached the reflective cloth was diffused with 
nothing defining returning to my eyes. I could only make out the vests in 
the growing ambience of dawn's light as the sun neared rising. After that, 
 if fog was present we added cyalume light sticks in an elastic band sewn 
like a bandolier for bullets around the vests. Light having to go one way 
was a more visible precaution and was seen from greater distance than the 
highest level reflective material, even if local buffoons drove past 
multiple vehicles with flashing four ways parked both to provide alert to 
oncoming vehicles and provide cover to the dismounted.

There is a waiting room in Hell with a bench reserved for cyclists who ride 
in the dusk or dark of night with daytime flashing lights, reservations 
made with the intently redeemable bad karma their harm did to other 
cyclists trying to follow them.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh


On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 6:58:14 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Joel:
>
> There are many lights out there that will make you more visible to 
> vehicles, but I wouldn’t bet my life on any of them. I believe there’s more 
> safety in being aware of what’s happening around you at all times, wearing 
> brightly colored/contrasting clothing, and assuming that motorists don’t 
> see you.
>
> If you *do* use lights bright enough to be seen in daylight, I beg you to 
> think twice about using them at night. The new super-bright taillights, 
> when used at night, make it impossible for anyone to ride behind you 
> safely. All the person behind you can see is a bright red glow. 
>
> I’ve ranted about this before, so I won’t go on much longer here. But … 
> please be considerate of anyone behind you—and people coming at you on the 
> bike trail and end up getting blasted by your daylight-bright headlight.
>
> I recommend a taillight like the PDW “Daybot,” which offers a bright 
> daytime option and a less bright (but still bright enough) nighttime 
> setting that also provides longer runtimes (because no taillight will work 
> with dead batteries).
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>
> On Aug 20, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Joel  wrote:
>
> 2 close calls in one day. My red blinking cateye is useless in daylight. 
>  I a interested in front and back lights to help me be more visible, your 
> thoughts and experiences are welcome.
>
> Thanks 
>
> Joel
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Re: [RBW] Who is using bike lights?

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Amen, brother. 

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
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Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

> On Aug 23, 2020, at 5:07 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
> 
> There is a waiting room in Hell with a bench reserved for cyclists who ride 
> in the dusk or dark of night with daytime flashing lights, reservations made 
> with the intently redeemable bad karma their harm did to other cyclists 
> trying to follow them.

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Re: [RBW] Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

[Steve Palincsar]

Rode with a small group on a ride in the Amish area in Southern 
Maryland's Charles County today.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Joe Bernard]

Yep, it was bad growing up in Long Beach, CA. in the '70s. The smoky air 
I'm looking at right now was every day then..your throat hurt all the time 
and the horizon was brown. It's much better now and may actually stay that 
way if we get this sociopath out of office soon. 

On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 12:08:20 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> SoCal has had respiratory-system-threatening atmospherics for decades and 
> decades. The year after college and before grad school I looked around for 
> some job and (silly me!) chose 7th/8th grade teacher at St. Philip's 
> Catholic school in Pasadena. I recall days when the smog was so diabolic 
> that the 101 fwy bridge about 160 metres (Google maps) from the parish 
> grounds was *invisible.* Orangey-browny obscuration that made your eyes 
> water.
>
> Back then I ran, and being too lazy to get up at 5 am to do it, I did it 
> in the afternoons. I ran on one such hard-smog day -- Pasdena Community 
> College track across street -- and for days afterward I had the equivalent 
> of a modestly severe respiratory infection.
>
> I do recall the rather wonderful view of flying into LA in the morning 
> back in the '70s and seeing the majestic vision of early morning sunlight 
> on the dense, opaque cloud wholly obscuring the city. What an effing 
> monstrosity! Bad in '70s and '90s; better now, smoke aside?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 5:24 PM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA <
> benzo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> which reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the 
>> thick brown layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my 
>> eyes.
>>
> ---
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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[RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Kevin D norcal]

Radavist article re: Chuck Teixeira - A Living Legend of Cycling Has Lost 
his Home and Workshop: Let’s Give Him a Hand

https://theradavist.com/2020/08/a-living-legend-of-cycling-has-lost-his-home-and-workshop-lets-give-him-a-hand/
  
On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 6:13:08 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Mitch Pryor was MAP Bicycles in Paradise, CA., he lost everything in the 
> Camp Fire two years ago. 
>
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I spent ~5 years on SoCal -- Calabasas/Malibu and Santa Paula/Ojai and 
>> Pasadena and Atherton (girlfriend) way back in the '70s and early '80s, 
>> college and hanging around afterward. I recall yearly wildfires and the 
>> little everyday earthquakes; but nothing like the last few years, which 
>> have been rather apocalyptic.
>>
>> I just read on the CR list that a well-known builder lost his property.
>>
>> Is Walnut Creek affected?
>>
>> I hope all living there and reading this are safe. 
>>
>> Here in high desert ABQ, NM the sun has long since burned off most fire 
>> fuel, but I live in the little green belt -- bosque -- adjacent to the Rio 
>> Grand; the summer before I bought my house, there was a bosque fire, after 
>> which the City went in and cleaned out the thickets of imported willows and 
>> other aliens so we've not had one since. But I don't use a charcoal grill.
>>
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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[RBW] FS: 2 NEW Inverted (Upside Down) Schmidt Edelux II - $165 shipped

[Elton Lance]

Offering with crosspost apologies:

- One light has a 60mm wire with 4.8mm spade connectors for Schmidt hub 
attached.



- One light has 140mm wire with bare ends.  There are no 4.8mm spade connectors 
included.



Both lights are polished silver and are unmounted/unused.  Hardware shown in 
photos is included.  

Please email me at "eltonpl (at) gmail (dot) com" if interested.  Mail to this 
newsgroup address may go unnoticed.

Thanks! 

Elton Lance
Vero Beach, FL





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[RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Living in the middle of all this smoke, I've been monitoring our air 
quality on PurpleAir's website. The amount of 
information available through PurpleAir depends upon the density of people 
who have purchased & installed their sensors, but people have installed 
their sensors worldwide, and you can monitor air quality, humidity & 
temperature. I noticed SF Bay Area news stations are now using the 
PurpleAir maps in their news casts.

John

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Re: [RBW] While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Patrick Moore]

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 9:20 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My celebrity lookalike was Mowgli from the Jungle Book.

As long as we are indulging in great gushing gouts of childhood nostalgia,
I'll add my $0.02 on Mowgli and whatever extrapolations I feel like
extrapolating.

Your childhood hairstyle matched the Disney Mowgli, but the real Mowgli was
longer haired and far more brutally realistic than the movie theatre
version; after all, he organized the wolf tribe into sending the village's
cattle down a narrow ravine to trample the glutted Shere Khan to death.
I've not watched the Disney *Jungle Book,* but I would be willing to bet a
few $$$ that this scene was not included in exquisite detail.

Rudyard Kipling held all sorts of weird, stupid, brutal views, but he did
know 19th-century Raj India had a sympathy for both races, and very
captured very well the bewilderment and occasional humanity of brutal
conquerors and the resistance, resentment, and not infrequent acquiescence
of the conquered; he had a "feel" for both. The Brits came into India at a
period when the Mughal empire was in decay, and -- interesting fact -- were
far less racist and far more inclined to mimic rather than denounce the
local customs before the mid-19th century advent of racialist-superiority
ideologies falsely extrapolated from Darwin's naive biological hypothesis.
Kipling shares both these Brit-versus-India tendencies.

Kipling was a racialist and imperialist, but as others have pointed out, he
was the sole regardable literary talent to come out of the Raj. I
think his *magnum
opus* is the secretly autobiographical *Kim* about a bi-racial --
"Anglo-Indian;" this term includes both Brit/Indian and
Portuguese(Goa)/Indian mixes, "anglo" being a technical and not a strictly
ethnic term -- orphan street boy who lives in between the 2 cultures and
races and gets the best of both; the story is precisely a glorification of
his mixed-caste background and the adventures offered him in late 19th
century India beyond those offered to the pure of either race. The book
falls apart about 2/3 of the way through (like* Huckleberry Finn*), but the
first part is wonderful.

*Rikki Tikki Tavi* is another wonderful children's story, told from the
point of view of a very Indian mongoose in the Anglo garden of the small
son of a Raj administrator. Then of course there are his poems about
British Indian army other ranks (*Gunga Din, Danny Deever*, and the one I
quoted to no avail (are miltary people simply unimaginative?) to a US Army
ex-Afghanistan resume client, *Arithmetic on the Frontier*:

A scrimmage in a Border Station —
A canter down some dark defile —
Two thousand pounds of education
Drops to a ten-rupee jezail —
The Crammer’s boast, the Squadron’s pride,
Shot like a rabbit in a ride!

Finally, the wonderfully done 1970s (well, Connery and Caine?) *The Man Who
Would Be King.*

Hoary joke:
First Stock Idiot: "Do you like Kipling?"
Second Stock Idiot: "I don't know, I've never Kippled."
Dimwit audience: "Laugh track."

Early Mowgli illustration:


Bike Content: None whatsoever.



Patrick Moore
Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Matthew Williams]

Hey Kevin, 

Andrew is selling his 62 Appaloosa:

https://austin.craigslist.org/bik/d/austin-62cm-rivendell-joe-appaloosa-f/7177615132.html

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On Aug 23, 2020, at 7:17 PM, Kevin D norcal  wrote:

> Quickbeam 58cm in Seattle
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-quickbeam-single/7183045179.html
>   
> 
> *too many 58's on the market IMO.  I need a 62cm.  If I find my 62 then I can 
> put my 64's up for sale
> 
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:11:41 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and sites 
> beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. This 
> thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who are 
> searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this out!" 
> Here are a few, from today's searches:
> 
> 61cm Roadini
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
> 
> 58cm Quickbeam
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
> 
> 52cm Clementine
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
> 
> 65cm Redwood
> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Jason Fuller]

What I am most interested in now is what the colors are going to be (same 
as the prototypes? or different?) and what the downtube logo will look 
like. I am hoping for an understated color that isn't too boring - ie 
classic Riv blue would be great, but I don't like that silver too much. 


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[RBW] Re: FS: Filson, Towel Rack, Nitto, Brooks, RBW, Shimano, Sunrace

[Will Ashe]

Updating what sold so far. Feel free to make an offer on anything that's 
left.

Best, 
Will

On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 8:25:13 PM UTC-5, Will Ashe wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 5:46:33 PM UTC-5, Will Ashe wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks, 
>>
>> Cross posted with iBob. I'm clearing out a few things. All prices include 
>> shipping to CONUS, but I'm pretty bad at judging value so please make an 
>> offer/let me know if I'm way off base. If you get more than one thing we 
>> can talk discount. Please respond off-list if you can. I'll try to check 
>> here daily.
>>
>> Crust Bikes 615mm Towel Rack, silver - $120 SOLD
>> Nitto Technomic 25.4 8cm, no clamp hardware - $20
>> Brooks B17 Brown w/ cover, about a year old with minimal mileage - $85 
>> SOLD
>> Shimano XT 10spd Dynasys RD, this is brand new but has some marks near 
>> the cable clamp from attempting to fit it will a too big cassette. (36 is 
>> the max) - $55
>> Shimano Deore 9spd RD - $25
>> Shimano 9spd chain with all links, lots of life - $20
>> Sunrace 9 spd cassette, 11-36 - $25
>> Shimano 8spd cassette, 11-34 -  $10
>> RivBike Monkey wool mitts, very fresh - $20 SOLD
>> MKS Sneaker Pedals, no reflectors(how I got them) - $15 SOLD
>> Filson Mile Marker Cover Cloth jacket, medium(44" chest)/olive w/ a new 
>> tin of wax - $125
>> Filson Zippered tote, Field Tan, fits nicely in a Wald 137 - $125
>>
>> Photos can be seen https://photos.app.goo.gl/44w4Z1pLeccCCWp49.
>>
>> Thanks for looking, 
>> Will Ashe
>> Austin, TX
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Joel Stern]

So it is better?

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:14 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Yep, it was bad growing up in Long Beach, CA. in the '70s. The smoky air
> I'm looking at right now was every day then..your throat hurt all the time
> and the horizon was brown. It's much better now and may actually stay that
> way if we get this sociopath out of office soon.
>
> On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 12:08:20 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> SoCal has had respiratory-system-threatening atmospherics for decades and
>> decades. The year after college and before grad school I looked around for
>> some job and (silly me!) chose 7th/8th grade teacher at St. Philip's
>> Catholic school in Pasadena. I recall days when the smog was so diabolic
>> that the 101 fwy bridge about 160 metres (Google maps) from the parish
>> grounds was *invisible.* Orangey-browny obscuration that made your eyes
>> water.
>>
>> Back then I ran, and being too lazy to get up at 5 am to do it, I did it
>> in the afternoons. I ran on one such hard-smog day -- Pasdena Community
>> College track across street -- and for days afterward I had the equivalent
>> of a modestly severe respiratory infection.
>>
>> I do recall the rather wonderful view of flying into LA in the morning
>> back in the '70s and seeing the majestic vision of early morning sunlight
>> on the dense, opaque cloud wholly obscuring the city. What an effing
>> monstrosity! Bad in '70s and '90s; better now, smoke aside?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 5:24 PM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA <
>> benzo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> which reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the
>>> thick brown layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my
>>> eyes.
>>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Robert Tilley]

  Air quality improved significantly since the 70's.  San Diego was never that bad but I recall trips through LA and the air quality was horrible. We did have some days here where we had to cancel PE due to smog but it was rare.Robert TilleySan Diego, CA Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   From: bertin...@gmail.comSent: August 23, 2020 12:08 PMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires  SoCal has had respiratory-system-threatening atmospherics for decades and decades. The year after college and before grad school I looked around for some job and (silly me!) chose 7th/8th grade teacher at St. Philip's Catholic school in Pasadena. I recall days when the smog was so diabolic that the 101 fwy bridge about 160 metres (Google maps) from the parish grounds was invisible. Orangey-browny obscuration that made your eyes water.Back then I ran, and being too lazy to get up at 5 am to do it, I did it in the afternoons. I ran on one such hard-smog day -- Pasdena Community College track across street -- and for days afterward I had the equivalent of a modestly severe respiratory infection.I do recall the rather wonderful view of flying into LA in the morning back in the '70s and seeing the majestic vision of early morning sunlight on the dense, opaque cloud wholly obscuring the city. What an effing monstrosity! Bad in '70s and '90s; better now, smoke aside?On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 5:24 PM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA  wrote:which reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the thick brown layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my eyes.---Patrick MooreAlburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum



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[RBW] Re: FS: Tektro 559 brakes and Nitto Technomic stem

[Emily Guise]

Shoot, forgot to say that shipping would be around $13, shipped Priority 
Mail.

On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 5:26:57 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> Hi all, I'm doing a bit of a parts bin clean out, and I have a set of 
> Tektro 559 nutted brakes and a Nitto Technomic stem that I've never used 
> and I'd love to pass them on to someone else to use. Pictures are here. 
> 
>
> The stem is a 22.2mm (1") quill and fits 26.0 handlebars. I think the 
> reach is around 80mm and the height is about 150mm above the mark. $30
>
> The brakes are silver ones that bolt on, caliper sidepulls. More specifics 
> are in the photos. $50
>
> Post here if interested or email me at emilykguise [AT] gmail [dot] com. 
> Happy to answer any questions too. Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who is using bike lights?

[Tom Horton]

Oh crap  that s a real shame  no warning

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2020, at 7:15 AM, Peter White  wrote:
> 
> I think Dinotte is out of business. In the past few months I've had numerous 
> telephone calls from people telling me they placed an order through the 
> Dinotte website, paid for the order, and then got nothing. Sounds like the 
> payment system is still working but nothing else. They can't contact anybody 
> at the company.
> 
> PJW
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 8:35 PM Tom Horton  wrote:
>> I would check out dinotte lights, made in u.s.a., expensive, but very bright 
>> and very durable. they make a couple amber front lights that are highly 
>> visible without being too obnoxious to oncoming traffic...one can even work 
>> as a headlight in full dark on the road.  I combine them with dynamo lights, 
>> for which peter white's website is a good resource. I own several dinottes 
>> and have used a couple for more than 6 years.  usb rechargeable for the most 
>> part.
>> 
>>> On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 5:55:05 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:
>>> 2 close calls in one day. My red blinking cateye is useless in daylight.  I 
>>> a interested in front and back lights to help me be more visible, your 
>>> thoughts and experiences are welcome.
>>> 
>>> Thanks 
>>> 
>>> Joel
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[RBW] Re: FS - 43mm 700c Hammered Honjos

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks all. I have a sale pending on the Honjos.

Paul Germain
Midlothian, VA

On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 7:32:34 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> After 13 years of use, my 43mm / 700c hammered Honjo fenders were 
> serviceable but looked ragged enough to replace. 
> Two years ago, I purchased a new set of replacement fenders (without 
> hardware) from Jitensha Studio in Berkley, CA. 
> I unboxed them but never unwrapped or mounted and finally decided to go 
> fenderless for a while.
>
> These will easily fit 32mm tires. (See my Flickr images of my Oswald Sport 
> Tourer with the old fenders in use.)
> The fenders are not pre-drilled to allow for maximum installation 
> flexibility.
> I will include the previous hardware and stays, including PDW (Pacific 
> Design Works) Safety Tabs on the front fender stays. I can provide the old 
> fenders, 
> which are still serviceable and may act as a template of sorts for 
> drilling.
>
> Previous stays on my 56cm Oswald Sport Tourer are aprox. 345mm (front) / 
> 350mm (rear) from fender edge to stay end.
>
> Flickr images:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157715593666532
>
> I paid Jitensha $73 for the two fenders without hardware, plus $30 
> shipping and will sell the fenders plus hardware (with old fenders if you 
> wish) for $50, plus $30 shipping.
> PayPal preferred.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, VA
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Re: [RBW] Re: While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[Patrick Moore]

Aha, Sting Ray, now I remember. Google and Wiki provide the text below. My
only contact with the fad was a top-tube-mounted 3-speed shifter that I
found in the 1968 Sears Christmas Catalogue and added to to my Christmas
list and, indulgent parents thank you!, actually got via slow boat in time
for Christmas; big black knob on stout pressed metal lever over
plastic-box-enclosed, simple, ratchet shifting system, and installed on my
metallic-gold-flake with white accents Raleigh Sports to complement the
retrofitted steel drop bar and rat trap pedals sans retention mechs.
Nowadays I'd prefer the original -- and IMO brilliant -- bar-mount trigger
shifter, which I've gone thru contortions to source in these our latter
days.

*The Sting-Ray: **In 1962, Schwinn's designer Al Fritz heard about a new
youth trend centered in California for retrofitting bicycles with the
accoutrements of motorcycles customized in the "bobber" or "chopper" style,
including high-rise, "ape-hanger" handlebars and low-rider "banana
seats".[23] Inspired, he designed a mass-production bike for the youth
market known as Project J-38. The result, a wheelie bike, was introduced to
the public as the Schwinn Sting-Ray in June 1963.[23][24][25][26] It had
ape-hanger handlebars, Persons's Solo Polo Seat banana seat and 20-inch
tires. Sales were initially slow, as many parents desiring a bicycle for
their children did not find the Sting-Ray appealing in the least. However,
after a few appeared on America's streets and neighborhoods, many young
riders would accept nothing else, and sales took off. In the December 1963
Schwinn Reporter Schwinn announced the arrival of the Deluxe Sting-Ray.
This model included Fenders, white-wall tires, and a padded Solo polo seat.
Next, in July 1964 Schwinn announced the arrival of the Super Deluxe
Sting-Ray. This model included a front spring-fork, and a new sleeker
Sting-Ray banana seat, and a Person's Hi-loop Sissy bar. Also, the Super
Deluxe gave the rider a choice of White wall tires or the new Yellow oval
rear Slik tire paired with a front black wall Westwind tire. By 1965, a
host of American and foreign manufacturers were offering their own version
of the Sting-Ray.*

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 2:21 PM Matthew Williams <
matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > When did the prototypical child's bike change from a balloon-tire
> cruiser to a chopper-type bike?
>
> Midway through 1964. In the heady days of customizing cars and
> motorcycles, a Schwinn executive saw kids in California customizing their
> balloon-tire bikes to make them look and ride like motorcycles, so he
> designed a new bike called the "Sting-Ray." The Sting-Ray was a huge hit,
> and a subsequent version called the "Scrambler"
>  with knobby tires, no front
> fender, and a reinforced frame was specifically designed as a "dirt bike"
> for kids who were riding and racing their bikes off-road in the early days
> of bicycle motocross, better known as "BMX."
>
> See also: Klunking. 
>
> 
>
> “I’ll tell you what I think of bicycling. I think it has done more to
> emancipate women than any one thing in the world. I rejoice every time I
> see a woman ride by on a bike. It gives her a feeling of self-reliance and
> independence the moment she takes her seat; and away she goes, the picture
> of untrammeled womanhood.”
>
> --Susan B. Anthony
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[RBW] FS: Tektro 559 brakes and Nitto Technomic stem

[Emily Guise]

Hi all, I'm doing a bit of a parts bin clean out, and I have a set of 
Tektro 559 nutted brakes and a Nitto Technomic stem that I've never used 
and I'd love to pass them on to someone else to use. Pictures are here. 


The stem is a 22.2mm (1") quill and fits 26.0 handlebars. I think the reach 
is around 80mm and the height is about 150mm above the mark. $30

The brakes are silver ones that bolt on, caliper sidepulls. More specifics 
are in the photos. $50

Post here if interested or email me at emilykguise [AT] gmail [dot] com. 
Happy to answer any questions too. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Tires and seat posts more important for comfort than frame material?

[George Millwood]

I bought an aluminium Cannondale Touring bike back in '98.  It was an 
ST1000 from memeory. I found it uncomfortable.  So I changed the seat, the 
stem (two or three times), the handlebars (three or four times)  , the seat 
post, the pedals, the tyres, added mudguards (fenders), mudflaps and 
finally, I swapped the frame out for an Atlantis.  Then, it was 
comfortable.  Now the steel may be the least consideration in the comfort 
factor and the design and sizing of the Atlantis may have been a bigger 
factor but it was a long road to comfort.  I'm with Andy, there are a lot 
more factors that make up comfort and comfort can only be measured by the 
rider.  

On Sunday, 23 August 2020 at 22:47:43 UTC+10 ascpgh wrote:

> If you narrow from a complicated system a single variable and measure it 
> with a selection of test items, you'll get data. Yes, a rigid frame's seat 
> post, saddle, wheel components and tires will contribute more to "comfort" 
> if you say vertical compliance equals comfort. What about lateral 
> compliance? Am I a loser or a non-cyclist because I value that? 
>
> The premise that aluminum frames are generally maligned as "uncomfortable" 
> may be true, but vertical compliance is but a single variable found in 
> complete bikes. If everything is harmonious, many factors will contribute 
> to that measures feature. 
>
> When I see a bike frame in a jig I hope it's for alignment, repair or 
> construction because if it's for testing to imply general conclusions about 
> bikes  (which have wheels, tires, crank arms, stems, handlebars and seats 
> in addition to seat posts), I cringe because of all the previous incarnate 
> machines' testing which purportedly sort out the entire how and with what 
> you build bikes question once and for all. 
>
> The reason we all spend time riding bikes, optimizing them, talking about 
> them and enjoying riding them as well as the experiences and discoveries of 
> others like us is that they are such simple appearing yet complex things 
> that easily elude jigged frame analysis. The variables of a bike and their 
> hierarchy of importance depends on the individual rider and we all know 
> there is a vast spectrum of those. That is the first generalization I take 
> offensively whenever analysis occurs. The assumption that every rider needs 
> "X" then leads to isolating what varies "X" and pacing examples on a scale 
> from good to bad. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 10:06:46 PM UTC-4 tc wrote:
>
>> Well-presented study of what affects comfort:
>> https://youtu.be/Lb4ktAbmr_4
>>
>> Tom
>>
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Re: [RBW] While we wait for our Platypus Bikes...

[masmojo]

The Man who would be King is indeed a wonderful film; One of those that if 
I stumble on it while flipping channels; I'll continue watching it even 
though I've seen it a half dozen times! It has one of the original "twist" 
endings. Predictable for the viewer maybe, but you can certainly sympathize 
with the narrator of the story.  Of course maybe I am predisposed to it, 
because I am fascinated by the culture of that region.  It gives a fairly 
accurate depiction of how Polo was invented as well.



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[RBW] Re: 2 NEW Inverted (Upside Down) Schmidt Edelux II - $165 shipped

[Elton Lance]

Oops! Price is per light/each. 

Apologies for any confusion. 

- Elton

> On Aug 23, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Elton Lance  wrote:
> 
> Offering with crosspost apologies:
> 
> - One light has a 60mm wire with 4.8mm spade connectors for Schmidt hub 
> attached.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - One light has 140mm wire with bare ends.  There are no 4.8mm spade 
> connectors included.
> 
> 
> 
> Both lights are polished silver and are unmounted/unused.  Hardware shown in 
> photos is included.  
> 
> Please email me at "eltonpl (at) gmail (dot) com" if interested.  Mail to 
> this newsgroup address may go unnoticed.
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> Elton Lance
> Vero Beach, FL
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Good wishes for those on list affected by CA wildfires

[Joe Bernard]

Much. It was already significantly improved by the time I moved north in 
'88, and much more when I've visited since. Emissions controls on cars and 
factories did SoCal a world of good. 
On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 4:27:35 PM UTC-7 Joel wrote:

> So it is better?
>
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:14 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Yep, it was bad growing up in Long Beach, CA. in the '70s. The smoky air 
>> I'm looking at right now was every day then..your throat hurt all the time 
>> and the horizon was brown. It's much better now and may actually stay that 
>> way if we get this sociopath out of office soon. 
>>
>> On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 12:08:20 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> SoCal has had respiratory-system-threatening atmospherics for decades 
>>> and decades. The year after college and before grad school I looked around 
>>> for some job and (silly me!) chose 7th/8th grade teacher at St. Philip's 
>>> Catholic school in Pasadena. I recall days when the smog was so diabolic 
>>> that the 101 fwy bridge about 160 metres (Google maps) from the parish 
>>> grounds was *invisible.* Orangey-browny obscuration that made your eyes 
>>> water.
>>>
>>> Back then I ran, and being too lazy to get up at 5 am to do it, I did it 
>>> in the afternoons. I ran on one such hard-smog day -- Pasdena Community 
>>> College track across street -- and for days afterward I had the equivalent 
>>> of a modestly severe respiratory infection.
>>>
>>> I do recall the rather wonderful view of flying into LA in the morning 
>>> back in the '70s and seeing the majestic vision of early morning sunlight 
>>> on the dense, opaque cloud wholly obscuring the city. What an effing 
>>> monstrosity! Bad in '70s and '90s; better now, smoke aside?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 5:24 PM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA <
>>> benzo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 which reminded me of when I flew into LA in the mid-90s, saw the 
 thick brown layer of smog blanketing the region, and then felt it in my 
 eyes.

>>> ---
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>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Kevin D norcal]

Rambouillet 58cm in SFO
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/hayward-rivendell-rambouillet-58cm/7183022233.html
  

*I'm new so not sure if I'm adding this to the list correctly - will find 
out.
On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:11:41 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and sites 
> beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. This 
> thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who are 
> searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this out!" 
> Here are a few, from today's searches:
>
> 61cm Roadini
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>
> 58cm Quickbeam
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>
> 52cm Clementine
>
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
>
> 65cm Redwood
>
> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Eamon Nordquist]

I love that silver, although it’s partly because it reminds me of the early 
80’s Treks, with their great Imron paint jobs. Mostly, I am just really loving 
that bike. I have to stop looking at it, as I currently have no job :( and the 
pandemic is going to make it harder to get one, so the last thing I should be 
doing is fantasize about buying a bike. 

Eamon
Seattle 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Kevin D norcal]

Quickbeam 58cm in Seattle
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-quickbeam-single/7183045179.html
  

*too many 58's on the market IMO.  I need a 62cm.  If I find my 62 then I 
can put my 64's up for sale

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> beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. This 
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> searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this out!" 
> Here are a few, from today's searches:
>
> 61cm Roadini
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>
> 58cm Quickbeam
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>
> 52cm Clementine
>
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
>
> 65cm Redwood
>
> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
>

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