Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TX max power

2009-05-28 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 28 May 2009, wb8art wrote:
 Thanks Eric, That is exactly what I was needing to know. This will 
 give us a good starting point and since it is looking to run only 35 
 watts it should be OK.  That is better than I expected.  Anyway I 
 believe it, (the duplexer) is only rated at 50 watts.

  Can some one with one of those fancy programs like Comm-Shop run it 
  and tell me the max power a Exec II on UHF ham band run with a 75 
  isolation mobile duplexer. Assuming that the coax and ant are a 
  ideal setup.

Assuming the repeater is mobile, one shouldn't need more than a decent 
location and 5-15 watts of power, 25 watts on the high-side. If you go 
to 10W instead of 100W, you only need 64 dB of isolation given the other 
person's calculation.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Two questions

2009-05-28 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sat, 9 May 2009, w4sef wrote:
 I am new at the GE Mastr II gameIs there a point on the receiver 
 board where I can tap off to get an S meter reading? I would like to 
 be able to monitor the signal incoming. Also, be able to see if there 
 is any rise in meter reading with no signal coming in to check for 
 desense with the transmit on and off. I had a Micor and knew where to 
 tap the second limiter for a meter reading on signals but can not find 
 the right place on the Mastr II.
 
 Also, I am using the Pion Controller board. I love the controller but 
 I can NOT get it to transmit the CTCSS tone. I have tried every 
 setting I can think of using the computer to program it but no luck. 
 It will DECODE fine but will NOT send the tone! Any ideas?

On mine I actually found a DIP-switch controlled CTCSS board. I could 
locally generate the CTCSS signal without actually installing the 
jumper. 

I will warn you: GE Mastr IIs can have a million jumpers installed in 
various places all over the chassis. Give it a good once-over and make 
sure that everything goes where it should. Just as many of them were 
left in original state as were hacked or rewired. They are good, simple 
radios however. If you can find a local tech who worked on them who is 
willing to walk you through the paces, it is worth the time. Having the 
right GE test set helps as well.

If you find a radio that doesn't have much issue transmitting but has a 
deaf reciever, you might assume the radio has been struck by lightning. 
I have a station that exhibits this problem.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


[Repeater-Builder] Exec II input problem

2009-05-28 Thread wb8art
 Wonder if anyone has had this problem and know what the problem is.  I am 
working on a GE Exec II repeater (converted mobile) which has no Comb no.  I 
any case the issue is that if I move around the cable feeding it with a 
generator I was seeing a change in the recieve.  
 I went directly to the RCA jack, and then found that just making 
connection with the center pin, I have about 10 to 20db stronger recieved 
signal than when I push it all the way in making the ground connection.  
 This is a mobile and the RF deck is no. is 19D417075G14 rev A covered by 
LBI30032E. This shows a option of either non floating ground or floating ground 
input.  This one is a non floating ground one.  Might have been changed but I 
have know knowledge of its history. 
 The RCA jack center pin connects directly with a wire thru a hole to the 
first helical and I have looked and can see no connection issues and measures a 
short with an ohm meter.  I even reheated the solder joints and no change.  
Anythoughts would be appreciated. 

Randy 



[Repeater-Builder] Tripplite Inverters

2009-05-28 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Anyone every had any problems with Tripplite 12vDC to 110vAC inverters?  I am
thinking of permanently mounting one in my car but I don't want one if it
causes RFI or other problems.

thanks




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exec II input problem

2009-05-28 Thread Chuck Kelsey
One of two things come to mind.

GE uses a short center pin RCA plug. If you are using a regular length RCA 
plug, the center pin will be too long and may short if pushed in too far.

The other thing that comes to mind is that when plugging in your signal 
generator, and the shield doesn't make contact with the jack, you may see a 
higher than normal signal level. I assume this happens because the signal 
generator has an impedance imbalance because it's not property terminated. 
(Someone else may jump in and explain this in more detail).

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: wb8art wb8...@netzero.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:02 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Exec II input problem


 Wonder if anyone has had this problem and know what the problem is.  I 
 am working on a GE Exec II repeater (converted mobile) which has no Comb 
 no.  I any case the issue is that if I move around the cable feeding it 
 with a generator I was seeing a change in the recieve.
 I went directly to the RCA jack, and then found that just making 
 connection with the center pin, I have about 10 to 20db stronger recieved 
 signal than when I push it all the way in making the ground connection.
 This is a mobile and the RF deck is no. is 19D417075G14 rev A covered 
 by LBI30032E. This shows a option of either non floating ground or 
 floating ground input.  This one is a non floating ground one.  Might have 
 been changed but I have know knowledge of its history.
 The RCA jack center pin connects directly with a wire thru a hole to 
 the first helical and I have looked and can see no connection issues and 
 measures a short with an ohm meter.  I even reheated the solder joints and 
 no change.  Anythoughts would be appreciated.

 Randy


 



[Repeater-Builder] Request for Space / Introduction Letter

2009-05-28 Thread Michael Ryan
 I wonder if anyone has made a request recently ( or maybe not so recently )
for roof space for a repeater / antenna(s), and has a letter that they have
used successfully to ask a building owner, etc for space to do so?  I met
with a building manager today who was more than 'receptive', but needs
something in the way of a formal request letter to go to the owner of the
building.  As much as I have not done this in nearly 20 years, any help
would be appreciated. Thanks a lot.   - Mike



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Exec II input problem

2009-05-28 Thread WA7ZZT
Sounds like whisker growing in the helical cavity.

wb8art wrote:


 Wonder if anyone has had this problem and know what the problem is. I 
 am working on a GE Exec II repeater (converted mobile) which has no 
 Comb no. I any case the issue is that if I move around the cable 
 feeding it with a generator I was seeing a change in the recieve.
 I went directly to the RCA jack, and then found that just making 
 connection with the center pin, I have about 10 to 20db stronger 
 recieved signal than when I push it all the way in making the ground 
 connection.
 This is a mobile and the RF deck is no. is 19D417075G14 rev A covered 
 by LBI30032E. This shows a option of either non floating ground or 
 floating ground input. This one is a non floating ground one. Might 
 have been changed but I have know knowledge of its history.
 The RCA jack center pin connects directly with a wire thru a hole to 
 the first helical and I have looked and can see no connection issues 
 and measures a short with an ohm meter. I even reheated the solder 
 joints and no change. Anythoughts would be appreciated.

 Randy

 
 


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tripplite Inverters

2009-05-28 Thread DCFluX
I've had problems with Tripplite power supplys. They randomly explode
and the company won't give you a schematic to fix one, but they will
gladly sell you another.

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:15 PM, JOHN MACKEY jmac...@usa.net wrote:
 Anyone every had any problems with Tripplite 12vDC to 110vAC inverters?  I am
 thinking of permanently mounting one in my car but I don't want one if it
 causes RFI or other problems.

 thanks




 



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tripplite Inverters

2009-05-28 Thread ka9qjg
 

John, I use to Volunteer working   Midnight Security at a large Church, and
I had My Ham equipment in the Veh .  I did not have a DC Adapter for My old
IBM Laptop ,  So I  got a Tripplite 300 Watt Inverter  to power it , I the
RF Generated Noise was so bad I could  only hear  Strong PKT And other
Digital signals ,  

 

The RF Hash was so bad on My Icom 706 Mk-2  It blocked most Signals on  HF .


 

The design may have changed since then but that was My experience

 

Good Luck 

 

Don KA9QJG 



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tripplite Inverters

2009-05-28 Thread JOHN MACKEY
How long ago was that or how old was the unit.  Tripplite just came out with a
new line of inverters about a year or 2 ago.

Do you happen to know the model of the unit you had that generated the RF
hash?

-- Original Message --
Received: Thu, 28 May 2009 03:33:01 PM PDT
From: ka9qjg ka9...@wowway.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tripplite Inverters

  
 
 John, I use to Volunteer working   Midnight Security at a large Church, and
 I had My Ham equipment in the Veh .  I did not have a DC Adapter for My old
 IBM Laptop ,  So I  got a Tripplite 300 Watt Inverter  to power it , I the
 RF Generated Noise was so bad I could  only hear  Strong PKT And other
 Digital signals ,  
 
  
 
 The RF Hash was so bad on My Icom 706 Mk-2  It blocked most Signals on  HF
.
 
 
  
 
 The design may have changed since then but that was My experience
 
  
 
 Good Luck 
 
  
 
 Don KA9QJG 
 
 





[Repeater-Builder] No One Ever asked?

2009-05-28 Thread Michael Ryan
 I wonder if anyone has made a request recently ( or maybe not so recently )
for roof space for a repeater / antenna(s), and has a letter that they have
used successfully to ask a building owner, etc for space to do so?  I met
with a building manager today who was more than 'receptive', but needs
something in the way of a formal request letter to go to the owner of the
building.  As much as I have not done this in nearly 20 years, any help
would be appreciated. Thanks a lot.   - Mike

 



[Repeater-Builder] Purc 5000

2009-05-28 Thread Randy Elliott

Greetings to the Group

I have a Purc 5000 paging transmitter that I am trying to convert to  
900mhz.

It is programmed via eprom to TX frequency of 934.mhz.
I have a code plug eprom burned for it but I have not installed it yet.
When I connect the station to power it goes into transmit right away.  
It has 2 PA's in the cabinet but only one is connected. Output was  
about 50 watts but I managed to locate the PA power level pot and have  
turned down the output to 15 watts until I can figure this beast out.
I don't have much documentation on it. And what I have been able to  
find here and on other parts of the internet is mostly based on the  
MSF 5000. What I do have is the model # C85JLB1106ASP02, the purc  
control board # TLN2774A03, Tone Remote Control Board # TLN2775A05,  
there is a 3rd large board that I could not find any number on, and 2  
PA'S model 1242 and 1212. (1242 is the one connected)
If any one can help with any documentation or experience with this  
station it would be muchly appreciated.


Randy VE3JPU