Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT? OT? OT? email notifications

[Glenn (Butch) Kanvick]

Go into Yahoogroups and uncheck the box that says notify me of updates.
That should do it.

Butch, KE7FEL/r

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:56 PM, wb6dgn  wrote:

>
>
> Can someone please tell me how to stop the email notifications when a new
> file is posted to the group? Every time a new file is posted in any of my
> active yahoo groups, not just this one, I get an email notification that the
> file has been posted on all of my email accounts (three of them!). I've
> searched until I'm nearly blind trying to find a setting in my yahoo profile
> and this membership page, that I can change, to no avail. My membership
> settings on all my groups also indicate NO email. I just don't know where
> else to look. HEEEL! Thanks,
> Tom
>
> 
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT? OT? OT? email notifications

[dmurman]

Use outlook to pull your mail. Go to tools and then rules and send those 
messages to your delete folder.  Otherewise you need to use your delete key.


Aug 27, 2010 04:56:33 AM, Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  



Can someone please tell me how to stop the email notifications when a new file 
is posted to the group? Every time a new file is posted in any of my active 
yahoo groups, not just this one, I get an email notification that the file has 
been posted on all of my email accounts (three of them!). I've searched until 
I'm nearly blind trying to find a setting in my yahoo profile and this 
membership page, that I can change, to no avail. My membership settings on all 
my groups also indicate NO email. I just don't know where else to look. 
HEEEL! Thanks,
Tom 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[Nate Duehr]

On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:17 AM, Mark Tomany wrote:

> Well if you think about it, Nate, VE's ARE an off-site testing facillity... 
> of sorts.
>  
> Mark - N9WYS (also a pilot)

Heh, good points all.  Just had a "hmm, that's interesting" thought in the 
middle of the night, that wasn't so interesting after all! ;-)

--
Nate Duehr
n...@natetech.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[Mark Tomany]

Well if you think about it, Nate, VE's ARE an off-site testing facillity... of 
sorts.
 
Mark - N9WYS (also a pilot)

--- On Thu, 8/12/10, Nate Duehr  wrote:


Side-comment: As a pilot and IT person, I've been taking tests for both at 
professional testing locations like ProMetric now for at least a decade.  

With the removal of the Code, I've always wondered why the FCC hasn't gone the 
way the FAA did, and dropped the need for the VE's altogether.  Just send 
people to the various "testing centers" around the world, and be done with it.

Even most of my other volunteer organizations have moved the majority of their 
testing online (to their own websites, but those are open-book tests... so no 
need to have a test proctor, like the professional testing facilities have, and 
video cameras recording you).

--
Nate Duehr
n...@natetech.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[Nate Duehr]

Side-comment: As a pilot and IT person, I've been taking tests for both at 
professional testing locations like ProMetric now for at least a decade.  

With the removal of the Code, I've always wondered why the FCC hasn't gone the 
way the FAA did, and dropped the need for the VE's altogether.  Just send 
people to the various "testing centers" around the world, and be done with it.

Even most of my other volunteer organizations have moved the majority of their 
testing online (to their own websites, but those are open-book tests... so no 
need to have a test proctor, like the professional testing facilities have, and 
video cameras recording you).

--
Nate Duehr
n...@natetech.com

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

[AA8K73 GMail]

n5sx...@charter.net wrote:
>  
> 
> I must admit that I don't see the problem with the sensitive equipment 
> not finding ground thru the floor! In the 1980 I have some telephone 
> central offices built by TRW. Each of the equipment racks were mounted 
> on thick plastic sheets, and the mounting bolts were inserted thru 
> insulating shoulder washers. Each equipment rack had a "dedicate home 
> run" ground back to the main central office ground buss plate. All 
> worked well, with no lightning problems. Some many years later I was 
> still working for the same telephone company when I was asked to go back 
> to that office to see why the new equipment addition would not work. It 
> was needed badly as the C.O. was out of lines and needed this expansion 
> to work. A quick inspection showed that the new equipment had been 
> mounted directly to the concrete floor with out the insulation kit. I 
> had the CO crew there help jack the rack up and slide a rubber floor mat 
> under it for temporary insulation. We verified that the ground strap was 
> correctly installed, and when we returned that equipment cabinet to 
> service , it came up and worked fine. The equipment installer was forced 
> to return at night to correct his problems. So not everything should be 
> chassis grounded to the floor.
> Jeff
> 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

[n5sxq.0]

 Doug Hutchison  wrote: 
> Yup...thats just what I mean...experts.bah humbug!!
> 
> D
> 
> On 01/08/2010 19:44:48, Eric Lemmon (wb6...@verizon.net) wrote:
>  > That is so true! When you add "corporate ego" to the mix, things get
>  > really
>  > murky. A case in point: Back in the mid-eighties, one very large and
>  > well-known computer equipment manufacturer was contracted to install 
> some
>  > facility monitoring equipment at Space Launch Complex Six at Vandenberg
>  > AFB,
>  > a site that was to be (until the Challenger disaster) the west-coast
>  > Space
>  > Shuttle launch pad. The monitoring equipment was divided into two major
>  > pieces, on separate floors of the Launch Control Center and about 200
>  > feet
>  > apart. From the moment the system was energized, a number of data
>  > channels
>  > had 60 Hz common-mode noise corrupting the data on the RS-422
>  > circuits.
>  >
>  > My crew was attempting to investigate the noise issue, when we 
> discovered
>  > that the
>  > supplier's technicians had deliberately "floated" the upstairs
>  > cabinets by using insulating washers and plastic sheets to avoid 
> contacting
>  > any grounded facility items such as embedded rebar. When advised by 
> our AHJ
>  > (Authority Having Jurisdiction) inspector that the installation violated
>  > Article 250 of the NEC, the manufacturer's
>  > engineer explained that this was
>  > the way his company did these installations, and-
>  > here's the corporate ego
>  > part- they had been doing%2


I must admit that I don't see the problem with the sensitivie equipment not 
finding ground thru the floor! In the 1980 I have some telephone central 
offices built by TRW. Each of the equipment racks were mounted on thick plastic 
sheets, and the mounting bolts were inserted thru insulating shoulder washers. 
Each equipment rack had a "dedicate home run" ground back to the main central 
office ground buss plate. All worked well, with no lightning problems. Some 
many years later I was still working for the same telephone company when I was 
asked to go back to that office to see why the new equipment addition would not 
work. It was needed badly as the C.O. was out of lines and needed this 
expansion to work. A quick inspection showed that the new equipment had been 
mounted directly to the concrete floor with out the insulation kit. I had the 
CO crew there help jack the rack up and slide a rubber floor mat under it for 
temporary insulation.  We verified that the ground strap was correctly 
installed, and when we returned that equipment cabnet to service , it came up 
and worked fine.  The equipment installer was forced to return at night to 
correct his problems. So not everthing should be chassis grounded to the floor.
Jeff

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

[Chuck Kelsey]

Often times it's a well-meaning individual that simply doesn't understand 
(like me - LOL) and there are plenty of inspectors out there that don't know 
either. The corporate reasons for doing things wrong speak for themselves. 
Life is full of mis-information.

Chuck
WB2EDV


- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Hutchison" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike


> Yup...thats just what I mean...experts.bah humbug!!
>
> D
>
> 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

[Doug Hutchison]

Yup...thats just what I mean...experts.bah humbug!!

D

On 01/08/2010 19:44:48, Eric Lemmon (wb6...@verizon.net) wrote:
 > That is so true! When you add "corporate ego" to the mix, things get
 > really
 > murky. A case in point: Back in the mid-eighties, one very large and
 > well-known computer equipment manufacturer was contracted to install 
some
 > facility monitoring equipment at Space Launch Complex Six at Vandenberg
 > AFB,
 > a site that was to be (until the Challenger disaster) the west-coast
 > Space
 > Shuttle launch pad. The monitoring equipment was divided into two major
 > pieces, on separate floors of the Launch Control Center and about 200
 > feet
 > apart. From the moment the system was energized, a number of data
 > channels
 > had 60 Hz common-mode noise corrupting the data on the RS-422
 > circuits.
 >
 > My crew was attempting to investigate the noise issue, when we 
discovered
 > that the
 > supplier's technicians had deliberately "floated" the upstairs
 > cabinets by using insulating washers and plastic sheets to avoid 
contacting
 > any grounded facility items such as embedded rebar. When advised by 
our AHJ
 > (Authority Having Jurisdiction) inspector that the installation violated
 > Article 250 of the NEC, the manufacturer's
 > engineer explained that this was
 > the way his company did these installations, and-
 > here's the corporate ego
 > part- they had been doing%2

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

[Eric Lemmon]

That is so true!  When you add "corporate ego" to the mix, things get really
murky.  A case in point:  Back in the mid-eighties, one very large and
well-known computer equipment manufacturer was contracted to install some
facility monitoring equipment at Space Launch Complex Six at Vandenberg AFB,
a site that was to be (until the Challenger disaster) the west-coast Space
Shuttle launch pad.  The monitoring equipment was divided into two major
pieces, on separate floors of the Launch Control Center and about 200 feet
apart.  From the moment the system was energized, a number of data channels
had 60 Hz common-mode noise corrupting the data on the RS-422 circuits.

My crew was attempting to investigate the noise issue, when we discovered
that the supplier's technicians had deliberately "floated" the upstairs
cabinets by using insulating washers and plastic sheets to avoid contacting
any grounded facility items such as embedded rebar.  When advised by our AHJ
(Authority Having Jurisdiction) inspector that the installation violated
Article 250 of the NEC, the manufacturer's engineer explained that this was
the way his company did these installations, and- here's the corporate ego
part- they had been doing it that way for years, and his company was highly
respected in the computer industry.  The AHJ was not fazed at all, and
refused to approve the installation until it was grounded in accordance with
the NEC.  The engineer refused to change the grounding scheme, and the
inspector refused to okay the installation.  It was an ego clash of the
first magnitude!

On a hunch, an engineer on my crew temporarily installed a heavy (4/0 AWG)
jumper to bond the upstairs cabinet to a nearby facility grounding plate,
and the noise problem disappeared.  When the manufacturer's engineer was
shown the effect of properly grounding the equipment cabinet, he almost went
into cerebral corruption, in effect saying "That can't be true!  We are
industry leaders!  We are never wrong!"  I was reminded of Robby the Robot
(in the movie Forbidden Planet) having a smoking CPU when confronted with
conflicting instructions.  The Air Force Colonel overseeing this contract
issued written instructions, ordering the computer system installers to
follow NEC requirements to the letter, or they would be removed from the GSA
approved contractor listings.  Corporate ego got stomped on, big time!

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of men...@pa.net
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:45 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

  

When the "expert" label starts to get thrown around too much I like to 
quote one of my math teachers in junior high school whose definition 
of expert is worth remembering to deflate any over sized egos.

"Ex is a has been and a Spurt is a drop under pressure"

Milt
N3LTQ

Quoting Doug Hutchison mailto:specialq.que%40ntlworld.com> >:

> What concerns me more than anythingso many experts yet this sort of
> thing still happens...(in many fields)!!!
>
> Hindsight is great!!
>
> D
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

[men...@pa.net]

When the "expert" label starts to get thrown around too much I like to  
quote one of my math teachers in junior high school whose definition  
of expert is worth remembering to deflate any over sized egos.

"Ex is a has been and a Spurt is a drop under pressure"

Milt
N3LTQ



Quoting Doug Hutchison :

> What concerns me more than anythingso many experts yet this sort of
> thing still happens...(in many fields)!!!
>
> Hindsight is great!!
>
> D
>
>
> On 01/08/2010 17:24:18, Chuck Kelsey (wb2...@roadrunner.com) wrote:
>  > Care to hazard a guess on the percentage of facilities (radio/tv,
> two-way)
>  >
>  > that
>  > aren't done right?
>  >
>  > A few years ago this happened near here - a radio personality wearing
>  > headphones taken to the hospital following a lightning strike to the
> tower
>  > outside the radio station.
>  >
>  > Chuck
>  > WB2EDV
>  >
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -
>  > From: "Eric Lemmon" 
>  > To: 
>  > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 11:42 AM
>  > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning
> strike
>  >
>  >
>  > > Whenever I read a report like this, I have mixed emotions. I am
> surprised
>  > > that the injury occurred, which is impossible if the facility was
> properly
>  > > designed and islanded in accordance with numerous standards, including
>  > > NFPA
>  > > 70, NFPA 780, and the Motorola R56 Manual. I am also angry that an
>  > > official
>  > > issued the statement that "...the communications system, including its
>  > > 400-foot radio tower, are grounded in accordance with industry safety
>  > > standards." That official, and the idiots who designed the
> communications
>  > > center, should be fired and/or brought up on criminal charges.
>  > >
>  > > The key to a safe installation
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

[Doug Hutchison]

Yup.we are only a number after all!!

D

On 01/08/2010 18:04:12, Chuck Kelsey (wb2...@roadrunner.com) wrote:
 > And I only see it getting worse as everyone 'has' to cut corners/costs.
 >
 > Chuck
 > WB2EDV
 >
 >
 >
 > - Original Message -
 > From: "Doug Hutchison" 
 > To: 
 > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 12:53 PM
 > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning
 > strike
 >
 >
 > > What concerns me more than anythingso many experts yet this 
sort of
 > > thing still happens...(in many fields)!!!
 > >
 > > Hindsight is great!!
 > >
 > > D
 > >
 > >
 > > On 01/08/2010 17:24:18, Chuck Kelsey (wb2...@roadrunner.com) wrote:
 > > > Care to hazard a guess on the percentage of facilities (radio/tv,
 > > two-way)
 > > >
 > > > that
 > > > aren't done right?
 > > >
 > > > A few years ago this happened near here - a radio personality 
wearing
 > > > headphones taken to the hospital following a lightning strike to the
 > > tower
 > > > outside the radio station.
 > > >
 > > > Chuck
 > > > WB2EDV
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > - Original Message -
 > > > From: "Eric Lemmon" 
 > > > To: 
 > >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

[Chuck Kelsey]

And I only see it getting worse as everyone 'has' to cut corners/costs.

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Hutchison" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike


> What concerns me more than anythingso many experts yet this sort of
> thing still happens...(in many fields)!!!
>
> Hindsight is great!!
>
> D
>
>
> On 01/08/2010 17:24:18, Chuck Kelsey (wb2...@roadrunner.com) wrote:
> > Care to hazard a guess on the percentage of facilities (radio/tv,
> two-way)
> >
> > that
> > aren't done right?
> >
> > A few years ago this happened near here - a radio personality wearing
> > headphones taken to the hospital following a lightning strike to the
> tower
> > outside the radio station.
> >
> > Chuck
> > WB2EDV
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: "Eric Lemmon" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 11:42 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning
> strike
> >
> >
> > > Whenever I read a report like this, I have mixed emotions. I am
> surprised
> > > that the injury occurred, which is impossible if the facility was
> properly
> > > designed and islanded in accordance with numerous standards, including
> > > NFPA
> > > 70, NFPA 780, and the Motorola R56 Manual. I am also angry that an
> > > official
> > > issued the statement that "...the communications system, including its
> > > 400-foot radio tower, are grounded in accordance with industry safety
> > > standards." That official, and the idiots who designed the
> communications
> > > center, should be fired and/or brought up on criminal charges.
> > >
> > > The key to a safe installation
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

[Doug Hutchison]

What concerns me more than anythingso many experts yet this sort of 
thing still happens...(in many fields)!!!

Hindsight is great!!

D


On 01/08/2010 17:24:18, Chuck Kelsey (wb2...@roadrunner.com) wrote:
 > Care to hazard a guess on the percentage of facilities (radio/tv, 
two-way)
 >
 > that
 > aren't done right?
 >
 > A few years ago this happened near here - a radio personality wearing
 > headphones taken to the hospital following a lightning strike to the 
tower
 > outside the radio station.
 >
 > Chuck
 > WB2EDV
 >
 >
 > - Original Message -
 > From: "Eric Lemmon" 
 > To: 
 > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 11:42 AM
 > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning 
strike
 >
 >
 > > Whenever I read a report like this, I have mixed emotions. I am 
surprised
 > > that the injury occurred, which is impossible if the facility was 
properly
 > > designed and islanded in accordance with numerous standards, including
 > > NFPA
 > > 70, NFPA 780, and the Motorola R56 Manual. I am also angry that an
 > > official
 > > issued the statement that "...the communications system, including its
 > > 400-foot radio tower, are grounded in accordance with industry safety
 > > standards." That official, and the idiots who designed the 
communications
 > > center, should be fired and/or brought up on criminal charges.
 > >
 > > The key to a safe installation

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

[dmurman]

Had a similiar problem when I was chief engineer at an AM-FM radio station. The 
antenna tower was within 250 ft of the building. The prior engineer connected a 
copper strap from the automation equipment to one of the tower legs.

Whenever we had a lightning strike on the tower you can see the lightning dance 
across the equipment.  Due to the lightning many time I had to replace parts in 
the automation controller. I finally found the copper strap and removed it from 
the tower. No longer did I get any calls due to lightning causing automation 
equipment failure.  I then got the owner to get an engineering crew to measure 
the tower to ground and found that the original grounding was falling and 
needed to be fixed.

After that no longer had issues either with the FM transmitter or TV 
transmitter at that site.  Also added lightning protestion on the AC coming 
into the building.



David

Aug 1, 2010 03:43:37 PM, Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  



Whenever I read a report like this, I have mixed emotions. I am surprised
that the injury occurred, which is impossible if the facility was properly
designed and islanded in accordance with numerous standards, including NFPA
70, NFPA 780, and the Motorola R56 Manual. I am also angry that an official
issued the statement that "...the communications system, including its
400-foot radio tower, are grounded in accordance with industry safety
standards." That official, and the idiots who designed the communications
center, should be fired and/or brought up on criminal charges.

The key to a safe installation at a location with an on-site tower is to
ensure that all utilities pass through a "window" where a common ground
reference exists. Ideally, the tower should be right next to the facility,
so that the same ground reference is used for both. The power transformer
that feeds the control room should be in that room, not hundreds of feet
away, and the secondary neutral of that transformer should be bonded to the
same ground that is used by the telephones, radio system, cable TV,
satellite system, and raised-floor supports. If executed properly, the
design of the control room creates a Faraday Cage within which all occupants
are safe from injury due to GPR (Ground Potential Rise) from a nearby
lightning strike. Likewise, all the electronics within the control room are
protected against surge damage.

It is obvious from the news report that the dispatcher was injured because
her headset was at a different potential from her body. The GPR resulting
from lightning striking the tower led to thousands of volts difference
between the radio control system (the headset) and the floor and counter in
the control room- and the chair she was sitting in. It is also obvious that
this difference in potential could not exist if the tower and the adjacent
control room were grounded in accordance with industry safety standards.
Some common sense and credible engineering skills are essential elements in
a proper control room design.

Many moons ago (late 60's), I was Chief Engineer at radio station WLRW, a 50
kW FM station at Champaign-Urbana, Illinois. During my watch, the station
control room was relocated to a building next door. It was my job to
supervise the cabling installation within the building and to the
transmitter at the base of the tower, which was just over 100 feet away.
All of the remote circuits and network feeds came through a grounding window
that was common with the power and the tower grounding system. I remember
arguing with the Illinois Power foreman about how we needed a separate
transformer to power the station, and it had to be installed right at the
side of the control room and not in a vault several hundred feet away. The
value of designing the entire installation to comply with established
industry standards and sound engineering practices was proven many times,
when the tower was struck by lightning during a storm, and no damage or
injury occurred. Although the station was on automation most of the day, we
had live talent from late afternoon to early morning, and at least one
lightning strike occurred while on-air talent was at the board and wearing
headphones. The lights blinked, but the board operator felt nothing and the
show went on.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tracomm
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

A dispatcher was treated for electrical shock on May 2 after lightning sent
a 
power surge through the dispatcher's headset.

http://richmondregister.com/localnews/x1255109983/Lightning-surge-injures-91
1-dispatcher
 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

[Chuck Kelsey]

Care to hazard a guess on the percentage of facilities (radio/tv, two-way) 
that aren't done right?

A few years ago this happened near here - a radio personality wearing 
headphones taken to the hospital following a lightning strike to the tower 
outside the radio station.

Chuck
WB2EDV


- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Lemmon" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike


> Whenever I read a report like this, I have mixed emotions.  I am surprised
> that the injury occurred, which is impossible if the facility was properly
> designed and islanded in accordance with numerous standards, including 
> NFPA
> 70, NFPA 780, and the Motorola R56 Manual.  I am also angry that an 
> official
> issued the statement that "...the communications system, including its
> 400-foot radio tower, are grounded in accordance with industry safety
> standards."  That official, and the idiots who designed the communications
> center, should be fired and/or brought up on criminal charges.
>
> The key to a safe installation at a location with an on-site tower is to
> ensure that all utilities pass through a "window" where a common ground
> reference exists.  Ideally, the tower should be right next to the 
> facility,
> so that the same ground reference is used for both.  The power transformer
> that feeds the control room should be in that room, not hundreds of feet
> away, and the secondary neutral of that transformer should be bonded to 
> the
> same ground that is used by the telephones, radio system, cable TV,
> satellite system, and raised-floor supports.  If executed properly, the
> design of the control room creates a Faraday Cage within which all 
> occupants
> are safe from injury due to GPR (Ground Potential Rise) from a nearby
> lightning strike.  Likewise, all the electronics within the control room 
> are
> protected against surge damage.
>
> It is obvious from the news report that the dispatcher was injured because
> her headset was at a different potential from her body.  The GPR resulting
> from lightning striking the tower led to thousands of volts difference
> between the radio control system (the headset) and the floor and counter 
> in
> the control room- and the chair she was sitting in.  It is also obvious 
> that
> this difference in potential could not exist if the tower and the adjacent
> control room were grounded in accordance with industry safety standards.
> Some common sense and credible engineering skills are essential elements 
> in
> a proper control room design.
>
> Many moons ago (late 60's), I was Chief Engineer at radio station WLRW, a 
> 50
> kW FM station at Champaign-Urbana, Illinois.  During my watch, the station
> control room was relocated to a building next door.  It was my job to
> supervise the cabling installation within the building and to the
> transmitter at the base of the tower, which was just over 100 feet away.
> All of the remote circuits and network feeds came through a grounding 
> window
> that was common with the power and the tower grounding system.  I remember
> arguing with the Illinois Power foreman about how we needed a separate
> transformer to power the station, and it had to be installed right at the
> side of the control room and not in a vault several hundred feet away. 
> The
> value of designing the entire installation to comply with established
> industry standards and sound engineering practices was proven many times,
> when the tower was struck by lightning during a storm, and no damage or
> injury occurred.  Although the station was on automation most of the day, 
> we
> had live talent from late afternoon to early morning, and at least one
> lightning strike occurred while on-air talent was at the board and wearing
> headphones.  The lights blinked, but the board operator felt nothing and 
> the
> show went on.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

[Eric Lemmon]

Whenever I read a report like this, I have mixed emotions.  I am surprised
that the injury occurred, which is impossible if the facility was properly
designed and islanded in accordance with numerous standards, including NFPA
70, NFPA 780, and the Motorola R56 Manual.  I am also angry that an official
issued the statement that "...the communications system, including its
400-foot radio tower, are grounded in accordance with industry safety
standards."  That official, and the idiots who designed the communications
center, should be fired and/or brought up on criminal charges.

The key to a safe installation at a location with an on-site tower is to
ensure that all utilities pass through a "window" where a common ground
reference exists.  Ideally, the tower should be right next to the facility,
so that the same ground reference is used for both.  The power transformer
that feeds the control room should be in that room, not hundreds of feet
away, and the secondary neutral of that transformer should be bonded to the
same ground that is used by the telephones, radio system, cable TV,
satellite system, and raised-floor supports.  If executed properly, the
design of the control room creates a Faraday Cage within which all occupants
are safe from injury due to GPR (Ground Potential Rise) from a nearby
lightning strike.  Likewise, all the electronics within the control room are
protected against surge damage.

It is obvious from the news report that the dispatcher was injured because
her headset was at a different potential from her body.  The GPR resulting
from lightning striking the tower led to thousands of volts difference
between the radio control system (the headset) and the floor and counter in
the control room- and the chair she was sitting in.  It is also obvious that
this difference in potential could not exist if the tower and the adjacent
control room were grounded in accordance with industry safety standards.
Some common sense and credible engineering skills are essential elements in
a proper control room design.

Many moons ago (late 60's), I was Chief Engineer at radio station WLRW, a 50
kW FM station at Champaign-Urbana, Illinois.  During my watch, the station
control room was relocated to a building next door.  It was my job to
supervise the cabling installation within the building and to the
transmitter at the base of the tower, which was just over 100 feet away.
All of the remote circuits and network feeds came through a grounding window
that was common with the power and the tower grounding system.  I remember
arguing with the Illinois Power foreman about how we needed a separate
transformer to power the station, and it had to be installed right at the
side of the control room and not in a vault several hundred feet away.  The
value of designing the entire installation to comply with established
industry standards and sound engineering practices was proven many times,
when the tower was struck by lightning during a storm, and no damage or
injury occurred.  Although the station was on automation most of the day, we
had live talent from late afternoon to early morning, and at least one
lightning strike occurred while on-air talent was at the board and wearing
headphones.  The lights blinked, but the board operator felt nothing and the
show went on.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
  

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tracomm
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

  

A dispatcher was treated for electrical shock on May 2 after lightning sent
a 
power surge through the dispatcher's headset.



http://richmondregister.com/localnews/x1255109983/Lightning-surge-injures-91
1-dispatcher
 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[Ralph Mowery]

Yep, blew the numbers.  97 for hams and 95 for the other services.  That is 
what 
I get for not paying attention.  


Around 1972 I took the comercial class exam.  I thought I knew enough for the 
second class at that time and it cost $ 1.00 more for the first class.  Decided 
that for only $ 1 as I had to drive about 40 miles to the exam place I would 
try 
it just to see.  I did manage to get the first class.  Never used it, but had 
it 
just incase I needed it.  NOw they have a general type license and it is not 
really needed for much frow what I have been told.

At that time there were no exect qustions and answers, just typical ones.

About that same time I took the technician ham test and passed it.  I was too 
lazy to work on the code and not that interisted in the low bands either.  
About 
20 years later I was working a job that gave me lots of free time if nothing 
broke so I got some tapes and started on the code again.  Passed the Advanced 
test (at that time the only differance in the general and tech was the code 
speed so when a tech passed the 13 wpm he was automatically a general).  Took 
about another year to get the code speed up to 20 wpm.   I never did get a 
chance to study the written test but looked over the questions one time. Anyway 
passed it the first time.

 




From: chuck wolf 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 8:47:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info






2. Part 95 is not the Amateur part. It is Part 97.

FCC Part 95 is for Personal Radio Services (GMRS, FRS, Radio Control Radio 
Services, Citizens Band, etc.)
 
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2009-title47-vol5/pdf/CFR-2009-title47-vol5-part95.pdf


FCC Part 97 is for Amateur Radio Services.



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[chuck wolf]

Hi Ralph,

Two things.

1. You are correct. A good memory is a plus. I went one step further and 
created 
a UNIX shell script to use the entire database of questions and test myself 
over 
a period of months on answers wrong vs time to take the entire test for each 
class of license. When I got 100% everytime, I would continue with the next 
class testing. When it came time for the VE session, I would take the test for 
the 100% class and then take the next class. Since the VE's would not tell me 
if 
I had any questions wrong (they just tell you PASS or FAIL), I don't know how 
well I did.

I passed the Technician test and took the general, which I was not ready for 
and 
FAILED. The next VE session I took the general and passed it. Knowing that I 
was 
averaging about 60% for the Amateur Extra test, I still took it and actually 
PASSED.

I know most of the stuff off the top of my head. For some of the harder stuff, 
I 
know where I can find it (the internet).

OBTW, the question pool can be located off of the arrl.org web site at

http://www.arrl.org/question-pools

As for where you can find a VE session, arrl.org has a session finder at

http://www.arrl.org/find-an-amateur-radio-license-exam-session

2. Part 95 is not the Amateur part. It is Part 97.

FCC Part 95 is for Personal Radio Services (GMRS, FRS, Radio Control Radio 
Services, Citizens Band, etc.)
 
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2009-title47-vol5/pdf/CFR-2009-title47-vol5-part95.pdf


FCC Part 97 is for Amateur Radio Services.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2009-title47-vol5/pdf/CFR-2009-title47-vol5-part97.pdf


The above links are from the FCC web site.

http://wireless.fcc.gov/index.htm?job=rules_and_regulations

Chuck

 


From: Ralph Mowery 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 4:28:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

  
How much do you know about electronics and radio in general ?  If to some 
extent 
, the exam is no problem.  Even less if you have a good memory.  There are 3 
classes now.  The Technician, General. and Extra.  For each one there is a pool 
of about 300 questions and answers .  That is the exect questions and answers 
for the test.  To take the test you have to go to where there are 3 or more 
qulaified examiners.  Some ham clubs give the test every so often and many 
times 
at hamfests (flea markets for hams).
Each class requires about 30 to 50 questions to be answered.  they are all 
multichoice.  I think it is 70% for a passing grade.  When applying for the 
test 
, apply for all 3 classes..  It is usually all the same price. If you pass the 
first one, you can take the next higher test.  There is no code (CW)  test 
now.  
 Somewhere around $ 15  for the test now.  After you are licened , it is good 
for 10 years and does not cost anything to renew it.


That $ 80 is way too much.  You can buy books with the questions and answers or 
download them from places on the internet.  


Go to www.qrz.com  and look for the prictce test.  Give it a try and see how 
well you do.  I have been a ham for over 35 years and can usually hit about 90% 
on the practice test on QRZ.com  in about 10 minuits for each of the 3 tests.  
I 
do that  from time to time when I hear how hard some say the test is.

If you want to learn something about ham radio, go to arrl.org and get one of 
the handbooks.  Think they are around $ 50 now.  You can go to e-bay and get 
some that are a few years old for only a few dollars.
Also at arrl.org look at the amateur rules.  Part 95 of the FCC rules.
Ham radio rules usually differ from comercial rules in that mostly the ham 
rules 
state what you can not do instead of what you can do for many parts.

If you have your comercial license, the test is similar and should be no 
problem.



 




From: La Rue Communications 
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 12:43:34 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




Good Morning All -
 
I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?
 
If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)
 
Thanks!
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn






  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[David Struebel]

Just want to clarify one thing. As I read the orignal post, I understood it to 
mean that he was inquiring about taking the test on line which is not possible.
All tests are administered through Volunteer Examineers... You can find a local 
group of VEs and testing schedules on the ARRL web site... The only fee is for 
the examination itself and is less than $10. Once you receive the license it is 
good for 10 years and renewable after that. Just a small clarification in case 
that is what the  was being asked.

Dave WB2FTX
  - Original Message - 
  From: racer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  I used this one to get my extra license. 
  It worked very well. The other nice part is you can keep going from tech to 
extra.

   http://www.hamtestonline.com/


  From: La Rue Communications 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:43 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  Good Morning All -

  I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?

  If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

  Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn


  


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[La Rue Communications]

Good chunk of info Ralph! I was just wondering if it was going to be 
multi-guess. :-) Usually the answer is "C". I will take your advice to 
consideration, and armed with the rest of the info y'all gave me - should be a 
cakewalk since I am very mechanically inclined. 

Cheers!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ralph Mowery 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  How much do you know about electronics and radio in general ?  If to some 
extent , the exam is no problem.  Even less if you have a good memory.  There 
are 3 classes now.  The Technician, General. and Extra.  For each one there is 
a pool of about 300 questions and answers .  That is the exect questions and 
answers for the test.  To take the test you have to go to where there are 3 or 
more qulaified examiners.  Some ham clubs give the test every so often and many 
times at hamfests (flea markets for hams).
  Each class requires about 30 to 50 questions to be answered.  they are all 
multichoice.  I think it is 70% for a passing grade.  When applying for the 
test , apply for all 3 classes..  It is usually all the same price. If you pass 
the first one, you can take the next higher test.  There is no code (CW)  test 
now.   Somewhere around $ 15  for the test now.  After you are licened , it is 
good for 10 years and does not cost anything to renew it.


  That $ 80 is way too much.  You can buy books with the questions and answers 
or download them from places on the internet.  

  Go to www.qrz.com  and look for the prictce test.  Give it a try and see how 
well you do.  I have been a ham for over 35 years and can usually hit about 90% 
on the practice test on QRZ.com  in about 10 minuits for each of the 3 tests.  
I do that  from time to time when I hear how hard some say the test is.

  If you want to learn something about ham radio, go to arrl.org and get one of 
the handbooks.  Think they are around $ 50 now.  You can go to e-bay and get 
some that are a few years old for only a few dollars.
  Also at arrl.org look at the amateur rules.  Part 95 of the FCC rules.
  Ham radio rules usually differ from comercial rules in that mostly the ham 
rules state what you can not do instead of what you can do for many parts.

  If you have your comercial license, the test is similar and should be no 
problem.



   



--
  From: La Rue Communications 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 12:43:34 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  Good Morning All -

  I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?

  If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

  Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn






  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[Ralph Mowery]

How much do you know about electronics and radio in general ?  If to some 
extent 
, the exam is no problem.  Even less if you have a good memory.  There are 3 
classes now.  The Technician, General. and Extra.  For each one there is a pool 
of about 300 questions and answers .  That is the exect questions and answers 
for the test.  To take the test you have to go to where there are 3 or more 
qulaified examiners.  Some ham clubs give the test every so often and many 
times 
at hamfests (flea markets for hams).
Each class requires about 30 to 50 questions to be answered.  they are all 
multichoice.  I think it is 70% for a passing grade.  When applying for the 
test 
, apply for all 3 classes..  It is usually all the same price. If you pass the 
first one, you can take the next higher test.  There is no code (CW)  test 
now.  
 Somewhere around $ 15  for the test now.  After you are licened , it is good 
for 10 years and does not cost anything to renew it.


That $ 80 is way too much.  You can buy books with the questions and answers or 
download them from places on the internet.  


Go to www.qrz.com  and look for the prictce test.  Give it a try and see how 
well you do.  I have been a ham for over 35 years and can usually hit about 90% 
on the practice test on QRZ.com  in about 10 minuits for each of the 3 tests.  
I 
do that  from time to time when I hear how hard some say the test is.

If you want to learn something about ham radio, go to arrl.org and get one of 
the handbooks.  Think they are around $ 50 now.  You can go to e-bay and get 
some that are a few years old for only a few dollars.
Also at arrl.org look at the amateur rules.  Part 95 of the FCC rules.
Ham radio rules usually differ from comercial rules in that mostly the ham 
rules 
state what you can not do instead of what you can do for many parts.

If you have your comercial license, the test is similar and should be no 
problem.



 




From: La Rue Communications 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 12:43:34 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




Good Morning All -
 
I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?
 
If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)
 
Thanks!
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn





  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[chuck wolf]

Hi John,

After you study and are confident, schedule the test which is given at Stockton 
Fire Company 14. I took my tech and was asked to take the General. I did not 
pass the General as I was not ready at the time. When I took the general, I 
passed and was asked to take the Extra. Passed that one too. Whoppie!

Good Luck.

Here is the contact information and schedule
 
Sponsor: Stockton ARRL VE Test Group
Time: 10:00 AM (No walk-ins) 
Contact: Thomas M. Zane
(209) 369-0859
Email: n...@comcast.net
VEC: ARRL/VEC
Location: Stockton Fire Station Company 14
3019 McNabb St
Pre-Registration Only!
Register 3 Days Ahead!
Stockton CA 95209-4158



Exam Session08/21/2010 | Stockton CA 95209-4158 
Sponsor: Stockton ARRL VE Test Group
Location: Stockton Fire Station Company 14
Time: 10:00 AM (No walk-ins) 
Learn More 
Exam Session09/18/2010 | Stockton CA 95209-4158 
Sponsor: Stockton ARRL VE Test Group
Location: Stockton Fire Station Company 14
Time: 10:00 AM (No walk-ins) 
Learn More 
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Sponsor: Stockton ARRL VE Test Group
Location: Stockton Fire Station Company 14
Time: 10:00 AM (No walk-ins) 
Learn More 
Exam Session11/20/2010 | Stockton CA 95209-4158 
Sponsor: Stockton ARRL VE Test Group
Location: Stockton Fire Station Company 14
Time: 10:00 AM (No walk-ins) 
Learn More 
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Sponsor: Stockton ARRL VE Test Group
Location: Stockton Fire Station Company 14
Time: 10:00 AM (No walk-ins) 
Learn More 





From: La Rue Communications 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 1:25:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

  
Very cool. Thank you both!
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn
- Original Message - 
>From: racer 
>To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
>Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info
>
>  
>Yes Doug is right,
> I didn't mean to make sound like I took the test on-line. sorry
>Study material is on-line. Testing still with a VE.
>
>
>From: Doug Bade 
>Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:04 PM
>To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info
>
>  
>As far as I am aware you still have to take your test in front of a team of 
>V.E.’s.
> You may study online and take practice tests online..
>Doug
>From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yahoogro 
>ups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
>Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:44 PM
>To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info
>  
>Good Morning All -
>I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
>license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
>first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
>else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?
>If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)
>Thanks!
>John Hymes
>La Rue Communications
>10 S. Aurora Street
>Stockton, CA 95202
>http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn



  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[Chris Curtis]

You can still probably find a list/calendar of test sessions in your area
from the arrl.org website.

 

Good luck

Kb0wlf

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:26 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

 






Very cool. Thank you both!

 

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

- Original Message - 

From: racer <mailto:racer5...@q.com>  

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:22 AM

Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

 

  

Yes Doug is right,

 I didn't mean to make sound like I took the test on-line. sorry

Study material is on-line. Testing still with a VE.

 

From: Doug Bade <mailto:k...@thebades.net>  

Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:04 PM

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

 

  

As far as I am aware you still have to take your test in front of a team of
V.E.'s.

 You may study online and take practice tests online..

Doug

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

  

Good Morning All -

I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have
the first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or
somewhere else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good
for?

If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

Thanks!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[La Rue Communications]

Very cool. Thank you both!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: racer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  Yes Doug is right,
   I didn't mean to make sound like I took the test on-line. sorry
  Study material is on-line. Testing still with a VE.


  From: Doug Bade 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:04 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  As far as I am aware you still have to take your test in front of a team of 
V.E.'s.

   You may study online and take practice tests online..


  Doug


  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:44 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  Good Morning All -


  I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?


  If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)


  Thanks!


  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn




  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[racer]

Yes Doug is right,
 I didn't mean to make sound like I took the test on-line. sorry
Study material is on-line. Testing still with a VE.


From: Doug Bade 
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:04 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info


  

As far as I am aware you still have to take your test in front of a team of 
V.E.'s.

 You may study online and take practice tests online..



Doug



From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info



  

Good Morning All -



I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?



If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)



Thanks!



John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[racer]

John,
The way Ham Test Online gives the questions to you and the way it give the 
information to you is what make it work.
I did about 1 1/2 hrs a day about 25 hrs total and had no problem getting a 94 
on the extra class.
It had been 26 yrs ago that I got my General so it was great to have it done. I 
love having access to the extra band's.
Good luck you will like it and get your ticket. Just keep at it.


From: La Rue Communications 
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:01 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info


  

Thank you Sir!

Any study reccomendations? I took and passed our local Law Enforcement exam x 3 
with a minimum of studying. MOstly common sense - just curious if its the same 
format?

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: racer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  I used this one to get my extra license. 
  It worked very well. The other nice part is you can keep going from tech to 
extra.

   http://www.hamtestonline.com/


  From: La Rue Communications 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:43 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  Good Morning All -

  I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?

  If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

  Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[Doug Bade]

As far as I am aware you still have to take your test in front of a team of
V.E.'s.

 You may study online and take practice tests online..

 

Doug

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

 

  

Good Morning All -

 

I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have
the first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or
somewhere else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good
for?

 

If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

 

Thanks!

 

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[La Rue Communications]

Thank you Sir!

Any study reccomendations? I took and passed our local Law Enforcement exam x 3 
with a minimum of studying. MOstly common sense - just curious if its the same 
format?

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: racer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  I used this one to get my extra license. 
  It worked very well. The other nice part is you can keep going from tech to 
extra.

   http://www.hamtestonline.com/


  From: La Rue Communications 
  Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:43 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info




  Good Morning All -

  I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?

  If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

  Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info

[racer]

I used this one to get my extra license. 
It worked very well. The other nice part is you can keep going from tech to 
extra.

 http://www.hamtestonline.com/


From: La Rue Communications 
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:43 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Licensing Exam Info


  

Good Morning All -

I am looking to take my Licensing exam and get my HAM / Radio Operator's 
license. I was told there was one online for about $80.00 but I don't have the 
first clue where to look. Is it somewhere on the ARRL web page, or somewhere 
else I need to be looking? Also - how long are the licenses good for?

If you point me in the right direction - I can handle it from there. :-)

Thanks!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Wanted Parts for Hitachi V660 or V665 O-Scope

[kevin valentino]

just a possible catch if i am wrong,let me know, that is 60 mhz, dual trace, 
with delay time base. correct?

--- On Fri, 6/11/10, d0ugjensen  wrote:


From: d0ugjensen 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Wanted Parts for Hitachi V660 or V665 O-Scope
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 11, 2010, 1:13 AM


  



Hi, I am trying to fix an old scope, Hitachi V660.
I need the front toggle switch, front trim, and maybe some other parts.

If you know anyone scrapping one of these, or where I can get parts, please 
contact me.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT? CDM 1250

[Chester Brown]

Good place for anything Motorola is www.batlabs.com  I am sure someone on
there can answer your questions

Chet/K6CRB

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:52 PM, terry dalpoas  wrote:

>
>
> I don't know if this would be off topic or not.  I need to find out if
> there is a group on the CDM1250 or find someone here who is very
> knowledgeable on this radio.  I just started doing some radio work for a
> fire department that has several of these and they are remote mounted with
> two control heads.  Is anyone familiar with this setup?  Anyone with info on
> the radio itself, please contact me direct so that the group is not tied up
> with my radio problem.  Thanks in advance.
>
> 73, Terry, KM5UQ
>
>  
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: WolframAlpha computational web site

[AARON LEWIS DINKIN]

I have the app on my iPhone :D

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 21:26, Don Kupferschmidt wrote:

>
>
> All,
>
> For those of you out there who are into heavy electrical math, I
> stumbled across a web site that will do a lot of math computations plus show
> you not only the results, but also the formulas behind it.
>
> First, go to this link and be prepared to spend close to 14 minutes of your
> time watching the tutorial.  You'll need sound, but I suspect most, if not
> all of you have that option.
>
> http://www.wolframalpha.com/screencast/introducingwolframalpha.html
>
> Once you have viewed the tutorial, here's the link to the web site:
>
> http://www.wolframalpha.com/
>
> I've spent countless hours this past weekend playing with it.  It is truly
> awesome.
>
> Don, KD9PT
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Triplett 310

[Mike Morris]

Thanks for the lead to those items.

I have a email in to sales at Pomona

Mike WA6ILQ

At 01:22 PM 06/02/10, you wrote:


Mike,

Pin plugs appear to be .080 in diameter and miniature banana plugs 
are .090 in diameter at the Pomona Electronics web site 
http://www.pomonaelectronics.com/index.php?i=prodmain&getDetails=0&parent=HWARE


I could be wrong, but I found this at Pomona web site: 
http://www.pomonaelectronics.com/pdf/D5936.pdf 
and 
http://www.pomonaelectronics.com/pdf/d3548_1_01.pdf


Browse around as they may have what you really need.



--
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris

Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:38 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Triplett 310



Anybody know what they call the size of plugs that
go into a Triplett 310 meter?

See the photo at
<http://www.repeater-builder.com/wa6ilq/triplett-310.jpg>

The jacks are smaller than a bananna plug and
bigger than a pin plug.

I'd really like to find a set - this is too nice a meter to leave
in a desk drawer only becasue there are no probes.
If I can make it usable it will go great in my go-bag.

Mike WA6ILQ

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Triplett 310

[wa6vpl]

Mike,

 

Pin plugs appear to be .080 in diameter and miniature banana plugs are .090
in diameter at the Pomona Electronics web site
http://www.pomonaelectronics.com/index.php?i=prodmain
 &getDetails=0&parent=HWARE

 

I could be wrong, but I found this at Pomona web site:
http://www.pomonaelectronics.com/pdf/D5936.pdf  and
http://www.pomonaelectronics.com/pdf/d3548_1_01.pdf

 

Browse around as they may have what you really need.

 

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:38 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Triplett 310

 

  

Anybody know what they call the size of plugs that
go into a Triplett 310 meter?

See the photo at


The jacks are smaller than a bananna plug and
bigger than a pin plug.

I'd really like to find a set - this is too nice a meter to leave
in a desk drawer only becasue there are no probes.
If I can make it usable it will go great in my go-bag.

Mike WA6ILQ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: HT1000s

[wd8chl]

On 6/2/2010 11:03 AM, radio5...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Anybody know a good source for a small quantity of of HT1000s?
>
> I'm going to need somewhere between 50 and 200.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Will
>

50 to 200 is a small quantity? gee...

You are U.S. right?
Anyway, be VERY careful! Only the most recent HT1000's are narrowband 
compliant! I believe only the 'D' suffix models are OK. I don't think 
the 'C' versions are, and I know the A and B are NOT. If you wind up 
with the older ones, you'll just have to get rid of them in a year and a 
half anyway. (With that quantity, I think I can safely assume you are 
not using these for ham use.)

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum

[Richard]

He didn't make it clear, but I think he's referring to the
Motorola_Software_Users group he has in the subject line. Repeater-Builder
moderators do an excellent job of spam control.
 

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:26 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group
forum


  


I'm not seeing any of these messages, so they apparently aren't coming
through the list.
 
73,
Paul, AE4KR
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: Don  <mailto:dkupf...@sbcglobal.net> Kupferschmidt 
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:45 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum

  



Hi to the group,
 
Does anyone either 1) belong to this group or 2) know what is happening to
this forum?  I've been a subscriber to this list for a while now but it
apparently got hacked by spam.
 
As of late, there are emails being sent by the owner, manager and moderator
stating that this group is going to be shut down and advises users to join
another group listed in the email, but no information is given about the new
group or how to join it.
 
TIA,
 
Don, KD9PT
 
 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum

[Paul Plack]

I'm not seeing any of these messages, so they apparently aren't coming through 
the list.

73,
Paul, AE4KR


  - Original Message - 
  From: Don Kupferschmidt 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:45 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum




  Hi to the group,

  Does anyone either 1) belong to this group or 2) know what is happening to 
this forum?  I've been a subscriber to this list for a while now but it 
apparently got hacked by spam.

  As of late, there are emails being sent by the owner, manager and moderator 
stating that this group is going to be shut down and advises users to join 
another group listed in the email, but no information is given about the new 
group or how to join it.

  TIA,

  Don, KD9PT



  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum

[Richard]

I've seen lots of groups die like that when the owner abandons it, but you
can go to Yahoogroups and do a search for one of similar interest.

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 10:45 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum


  


Hi to the group,
 
Does anyone either 1) belong to this group or 2) know what is happening to
this forum?  I've been a subscriber to this list for a while now but it
apparently got hacked by spam.
 
As of late, there are emails being sent by the owner, manager and moderator
stating that this group is going to be shut down and advises users to join
another group listed in the email, but no information is given about the new
group or how to join it.
 
TIA,
 
Don, KD9PT
 
 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum

[Chuck Kelsey]

Have you tried to sign in to the Yahoo site and go to My Groups and unsubscribe 
from it. Should be real easy. You can even get there, indirectly, by clicking 
on the link at the bottom of this email.

Chuck
WB2EDV


  - Original Message - 
  From: Wesley Bazell 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 1:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum





  I get the same Msg of Shutting Down, but after 3 Months that has not been 
done. Lots of X rates Spam comes thru. i just delete it. Very diificult to get 
removed from this group. If you know a way,
  let me know as I do not need this group.

  Wesley AB8KD 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum

[Wesley Bazell]

I get the same Msg of Shutting Down, but after 3 Months that has not been done. 
Lots of X rates Spam comes thru. i just delete it. Very diificult to get 
removed from this group. If you know a way,
let me know as I do not need this group.

Wesley AB8KD 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Don Kupferschmidt 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 1:45 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum




  Hi to the group,

  Does anyone either 1) belong to this group or 2) know what is happening to 
this forum?  I've been a subscriber to this list for a while now but it 
apparently got hacked by spam.

  As of late, there are emails being sent by the owner, manager and moderator 
stating that this group is going to be shut down and advises users to join 
another group listed in the email, but no information is given about the new 
group or how to join it.

  TIA,

  Don, KD9PT



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

[woody Carner]

i sent you a service manual did you get it...





From: Milt 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 8:48:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

  
Thank you Mike, but that scan is the instruction manual not the service 
manual.

Milt
N3LTQ

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Morris" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood 
TM-733A

> At 08:10 AM 05/20/10, you wrote:
>>Looking for service manual for the TM-733A radio in
>>paper(preferred)or electronic format.
>>
>>B51-8264-00 original or
>>B51-8264-10 revised
>>
>>Document is NLA from Kenwood
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Milt
>>N3LTQ
>
> Google is your friend. I typed in the following and
> found four sources in 2 minutes.
> kenwood tm-733 manual
>
> I put the best/clearest of the four on the Kenwood page
> at repeater-builder. It's a 13.8 MB download.
>
> Mike WA6ILQ
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>





  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

[Eric Lowell]

Mods.dk has a schematic. 
Eric Lowell
Eastern Maine Electronics Inc.
48 Loon Road
Wesley ME 04686
eme@starband.net
www.satnetmaine.com
207-210-7469 





From: Milt 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 8:48:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

  
Thank you Mike, but that scan is the instruction manual not the service 
manual.

Milt
N3LTQ

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Morris" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood 
TM-733A

> At 08:10 AM 05/20/10, you wrote:
>>Looking for service manual for the TM-733A radio in
>>paper(preferred)or electronic format.
>>
>>B51-8264-00 original or
>>B51-8264-10 revised
>>
>>Document is NLA from Kenwood
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Milt
>>N3LTQ
>
> Google is your friend. I typed in the following and
> found four sources in 2 minutes.
> kenwood tm-733 manual
>
> I put the best/clearest of the four on the Kenwood page
> at repeater-builder. It's a 13.8 MB download.
>
> Mike WA6ILQ
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>





  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

[Milt]

Thank you Mike, but that scan is the instruction manual not the service 
manual.

Milt
N3LTQ


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Morris" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood 
TM-733A


> At 08:10 AM 05/20/10, you wrote:
>>Looking for service manual for the TM-733A radio in
>>paper(preferred)or electronic format.
>>
>>B51-8264-00 original or
>>B51-8264-10 revised
>>
>>Document is NLA from Kenwood
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Milt
>>N3LTQ
>
> Google is your friend.  I typed in the following and
> found four sources in 2 minutes.
> kenwood tm-733 manual
>
> I put the best/clearest of the four on the Kenwood page
> at repeater-builder.  It's a 13.8 MB download.
>
> Mike WA6ILQ
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

[Nate Duehr]

Those old TM-73x rigs from Kenwood were pretty cool.  Still have my TM-732A, 
purchased new sometime around 1991.  Still works.

Have a tendency to pop PA "brick" modules if the antenna's not connected, 
but... well, you only do that once.  Ha. :-)

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
n...@natetech.com

facebook.com/denverpilot
twitter.com/denverpilot

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

[men...@pa.net]

Thank you Mike, that is one place I did not think to look.

Milt



Quoting Mike Morris :

> At 08:10 AM 05/20/10, you wrote:
>> Looking for service manual for the TM-733A radio in
>> paper(preferred)or electronic format.
>>
>> B51-8264-00 original or
>> B51-8264-10 revised
>>
>> Document is NLA from Kenwood
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Milt
>> N3LTQ
>
> Google is your friend.  I typed in the following and
> found four sources in 2 minutes.
> kenwood tm-733 manual
>
> I put the best/clearest of the four on the Kenwood page
> at repeater-builder.  It's a 13.8 MB download.
>
> Mike WA6ILQ
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

[men...@pa.net]

TM-733 = VHF/UHF amateur mobile

Quoting La Rue Communications :

> We have a TON of service manuals available for sale. One question  
> though, is that a typo on the model? I thought all Kenwood product  
> lines were TK-XXX.
>
> John Hymes
> La Rue Communications
> 10 S. Aurora Street
> Stockton, CA 95202
> http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
>   - Original Message -
>   From: n3ltq
>   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:10 AM
>   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A
>
>
>
>   Looking for service manual for the TM-733A radio in  
> paper(preferred)or electronic format.
>
>   B51-8264-00 original or
>   B51-8264-10 revised
>
>   Document is NLA from Kenwood
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Milt
>   N3LTQ
>
>
>
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

[La Rue Communications]

Thanks for the clarification! Much appreciated!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Juan Tellez 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:09 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A




  TK is for LMR, TM for ham mobiles, TH for ham portables and TS for Ham 
stations.



  JT



  De: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de La Rue Communications
  Enviado el: Jueves, 20 de Mayo de 2010 09:13 a.m.
  Para: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A





  We have a TON of service manuals available for sale. One question though, is 
that a typo on the model? I thought all Kenwood product lines were TK-XXX.



  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn


  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

[Juan Tellez]

TK is for LMR, TM for ham mobiles, TH for ham portables and TS for Ham
stations.

 

JT

 

De: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de La Rue Communications
Enviado el: Jueves, 20 de Mayo de 2010 09:13 a.m.
Para: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

 

  

We have a TON of service manuals available for sale. One question though, is
that a typo on the model? I thought all Kenwood product lines were TK-XXX.

 

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

[Rick]

-Original Message-
From: n3ltq 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 10:10 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

 
Looking for service manual for the TM-733A radio in paper(preferred)or 
electronic format.

 B51-8264-00 original or
 B51-8264-10 revised

 Document is NLA from Kenwood

 Thanks

 Milt
 N3LTQ


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

[Mike Morris]

At 08:10 AM 05/20/10, you wrote:
>Looking for service manual for the TM-733A radio in 
>paper(preferred)or electronic format.
>
>B51-8264-00 original or
>B51-8264-10 revised
>
>Document is NLA from Kenwood
>
>Thanks
>
>Milt
>N3LTQ

Google is your friend.  I typed in the following and
found four sources in 2 minutes.
kenwood tm-733 manual

I put the best/clearest of the four on the Kenwood page
at repeater-builder.  It's a 13.8 MB download.

Mike WA6ILQ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

[Tedd Doda]

La Rue Communications wrote:
> 
> 
> We have a TON of service manuals available for sale. One question 
> though, is that a typo on the model? I thought all Kenwood product lines 
> were TK-XXX.

It's a dual band Amateur

Tedd Doda, VE3TJD

Lazer Audio and Electronics
http://www.ve3tjd.com

High Performance cars don't kill
Low Performance drivers do

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A

[La Rue Communications]

We have a TON of service manuals available for sale. One question though, is 
that a typo on the model? I thought all Kenwood product lines were TK-XXX.

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: n3ltq 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:10 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT Looking for service manual Kenwood TM-733A



  Looking for service manual for the TM-733A radio in paper(preferred)or 
electronic format.

  B51-8264-00 original or 
  B51-8264-10 revised

  Document is NLA from Kenwood

  Thanks

  Milt
  N3LTQ



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Radius CP100

[La Rue Communications]

To provide closure to this topic... Got your email Eric and the PDF attachment. 
Thank you Sir!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Lemmon 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 5:47 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Radius CP100



  John,

  The CP100 was available in four models: 1 and 15 channel radios in VHF, and
  1 and 15 channel radios in UHF. The one-channel radios have a default
  frequency that cannot be changed. The 15-channel radios can be programmed
  from the front panel for any 15 simplex frequencies from a fixed menu of 27
  VHF or 56 UHF frequencies. The power level, bandwidth, and CTCSS/CDCSS
  codes are programmable. The programming procedure is contained in the CP100
  User Guide 6804112J99 which, unfortunately, is no longer available from
  Motorola Parts.

  73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
  Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:41 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Radius CP100

  Trying to figure out this radio to program it. Does anyone have the
  programming instructions somewhere in PDF format? Or at least share with me
  a method to field program it?

  Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202



  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Radius CP100

[Eric Lemmon]

John,

The CP100 was available in four models: 1 and 15 channel radios in VHF, and
1 and 15 channel radios in UHF.  The one-channel radios have a default
frequency that cannot be changed.  The 15-channel radios can be programmed
from the front panel for any 15 simplex frequencies from a fixed menu of 27
VHF or 56 UHF frequencies.  The power level, bandwidth, and CTCSS/CDCSS
codes are programmable.  The programming procedure is contained in the CP100
User Guide 6804112J99 which, unfortunately, is no longer available from
Motorola Parts.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:41 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Radius CP100

  

Trying to figure out this radio to program it. Does anyone have the
programming instructions somewhere in PDF format? Or at least share with me
a method to field program it?
 
Thanks!
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Programming Help Needed - Saber

[Kris Kirby]

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, La Rue Communications wrote:
> Can you think of any reason why this radio will not be read by the RSS 
> in the first place? All I get are "Serial Bus I/O Error was detected." 
> I know it seems like something not connected properly, but it reads 
> all other models of Sabers just fine. This is the only RSS I have for 
> the Sabers. COuld it be an improper version?   John Hymes La Rue 
> Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 
> http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

Systems Sabers require Systems Saber RSS. 

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Programming Help Needed - Saber

[Eric Lemmon]

Yes, I can.  A Systems Saber radio requires RVN4051 RSS, while a Saber radio
requires RVN4002 RSS, and an Astro Saber radio requires RVN4182 RSS. 

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:13 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Programming Help Needed - Saber

  

Thanks Kris! Good stuff!
 
Can you think of any reason why this radio will not be read by the RSS in
the first place? All I get are "Serial Bus I/O Error was detected." I know
it seems like something not connected properly, but it reads all other
models of Sabers just fine. This is the only RSS I have for the Sabers.
COuld it be an improper version?
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn <http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn> 

- Original Message - 
From: Kris Kirby <mailto:k...@catonic.us>  
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:07 PM
    Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Programming Help Needed - Saber

  

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, La Rue Communications wrote:
> I have run into a brick wall at a rather high rate of speed... as
fast 
> as DOS can run anyway.

> I am trying to figure out the band split of a (Presumed) VHF Saber

> Securenet Capable portable / handheld.

> I have the standard DOS RSS for Saber version 07.01.00 with a Moto
Rib 
> Box etc. I have programmed and read many other models of Sabers, 
> except for this one particular model. Factory ID: H43TUN5170CN

H43TUN5170xN, 6 watt, VHF Systems Saber I

> Model is H99QX + 104H, which I think is a package number. Google
turns 
> up that it may be a Military issue and no information can be found
on 
> this. Is this true?

Generate a new codeplug in the RSS and dial the options around until
you 
see a model tag that matches the above Model. That will tell you
without 
reading what you're holding.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Programming Help Needed - Saber

[La Rue Communications]

Thanks Kris! Good stuff!

Can you think of any reason why this radio will not be read by the RSS in the 
first place? All I get are "Serial Bus I/O Error was detected." I know it seems 
like something not connected properly, but it reads all other models of Sabers 
just fine. This is the only RSS I have for the Sabers. COuld it be an improper 
version?

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kris Kirby 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Programming Help Needed - Saber



  On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, La Rue Communications wrote:
  > I have run into a brick wall at a rather high rate of speed... as fast 
  > as DOS can run anyway.

  > I am trying to figure out the band split of a (Presumed) VHF Saber 
  > Securenet Capable portable / handheld.

  > I have the standard DOS RSS for Saber version 07.01.00 with a Moto Rib 
  > Box etc. I have programmed and read many other models of Sabers, 
  > except for this one particular model. Factory ID: H43TUN5170CN

  H43TUN5170xN, 6 watt, VHF Systems Saber I

  > Model is H99QX + 104H, which I think is a package number. Google turns 
  > up that it may be a Military issue and no information can be found on 
  > this. Is this true?

  Generate a new codeplug in the RSS and dial the options around until you 
  see a model tag that matches the above Model. That will tell you without 
  reading what you're holding.

  --
  Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
  Disinformation Analyst


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Programming Help Needed - Saber

[Kris Kirby]

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, La Rue Communications wrote:
> I have run into a brick wall at a rather high rate of speed... as fast 
> as DOS can run anyway.

> I am trying to figure out the band split of a (Presumed) VHF Saber 
> Securenet Capable portable / handheld.
  
> I have the standard DOS RSS for Saber version 07.01.00 with a Moto Rib 
> Box etc. I have programmed and read many other models of Sabers, 
> except for this one particular model. Factory  ID: H43TUN5170CN

H43TUN5170xN, 6 watt, VHF Systems Saber I
  
> Model is H99QX + 104H, which I think is a package number. Google turns 
> up that it may be a Military issue and no information can be found on 
> this. Is this true?

Generate a new codeplug in the RSS and dial the options around until you 
see a model tag that matches the above Model. That will tell you without 
reading what you're holding.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: AZDEN PCS-3000

[william pimble]

try here
 
http://www.rigpix.com/azden/pcs3000.htm
 
Bill N3JBX


--- On Wed, 4/21/10, La Rue Communications  wrote:


From: La Rue Communications 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: AZDEN PCS-3000
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 8:33 PM


  




Anyone familiar with these units? I know the company went out of business and 
the parts are near impossible to find. Most of the google searches I hit end up 
in collector's trophy photo galleries. I think its a 2 Meter Mobile, but I 
wanted to pick your brains on these. :) Picture attached. Be brutally honest 
please! Thanks!
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl. com/2dtngmn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola Spectra Astro VHF or UHF?

[Bill Smith]

www.batlabs.com is your friend. All the info you require.



From: La Rue Communications 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 7:28:08 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola Spectra Astro VHF or UHF?




Hi Gang -
 
I have an Spectra Astro beleived to be a UHF. As you can see from the picture, 
this is a two peice unit. Radio pack and control head. I looked through the RB 
Archives, extensively but only found Astros that are one peice. (Control head 
built in) This is a former Police radio that I am trying to locate the band 
split. A Google search turned up something on RadioReference.com specifying it 
was a VHF 146-178, but that was a bit sketchy. I want to be absolutely certain 
what split that this radio covers. We thought it was a UHF 450-470 split, but 
now moreso Im stumped.
 
Model number is: T04KLF9PW5AN
FCC ID: AZ492FT3773
 
Thanks for your input, no matter how small!
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola Spectra Astro VHF or UHF?

[Dan Blasberg]

Model number indicates VHF High split 150 - 178.  I t will come down  
to the amateur band just fine if you want to use it for that.


Dan
KA8YPY


On Apr 22, 2010, at 8:28 PM, La Rue Communications wrote:




Hi Gang -

I have an Spectra Astro beleived to be a UHF. As you can see from  
the picture, this is a two peice unit. Radio pack and control head.  
I looked through the RB Archives, extensively but only found Astros  
that are one peice. (Control head built in) This is a former Police  
radio that I am trying to locate the band split. A Google search  
turned up something on RadioReference.com specifying it was a VHF  
146-178, but that was a bit sketchy. I want to be absolutely certain  
what split that this radio covers. We thought it was a UHF 450-470  
split, but now moreso Im stumped.


Model number is: T04KLF9PW5AN
FCC ID: AZ492FT3773

Thanks for your input, no matter how small!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: AZDEN PCS-3000

[Joe]

I had one of these years ago, not an outstanding radio.  I think the 
mike connector on this rig was a strange multi-pin arrangement, hard to 
find and work on.  My advice is polish it up with WD-40 and put it on 
the trophy shelf.

Joe


On 4/21/2010 8:33 PM, La Rue Communications wrote:
>
>
> Anyone familiar with these units? I know the company went out of 
> business and the parts are near impossible to find. Most of the google 
> searches I hit end up in collector's trophy photo galleries. I think 
> its a 2 Meter Mobile, but I wanted to pick your brains on these. :) 
> Picture attached. Be brutally honest please! Thanks!
> John Hymes
> La Rue Communications
> 10 S. Aurora Street
> Stockton, CA 95202
> http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
>
>
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: If you are a Windows XP or 2000 user you might find this interesting...

[no6b]

At 3/13/2010 11:54, you wrote:
>The hard drive manufacturers are changing
>the native drive sector size...  industry wide.
>Since XP and 2000 are frozen (no more major
>updates) they are going to take a performance
>hit.
>
>See
>

If the performance degradation ends up being significant, don't be 
surprised to see 3rd party "native" support for the 4k block size appear, 
similar to the non-Microsoft USB drivers for NT 4.0.

Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT,,some gel on board!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Steven M Hodell]

O for the dreaded Kenwood TS-440 DOTS!  Thank you!

  - Original Message - 
  From: John King 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 12:51 AM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT,,some gel on board




  http://www.dynaloy.com/Products/tech_data_sheets/UresolveBlue411.pdf

  73,
john WA1ABI


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT,,some gel on board!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gervais]

Hi Kevin
some of the stuff are harder then others .
the rectifier on my skidoo is using an harder stuff than a gel 
compound,,,

i will check in my dictionnary for the translation of your MEK .
thanks many times
gervais ve2ckn



From: kevin valentino 
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 10:56 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT,,some gel on board




  Is it a "gel" or more like a potting compound ?

  I used Methyl Ethyl Keytone (MEK) to open potted circuits from 
competitors when i was in design and manufacturing engineering.

  Worked great and even left identification of parts intact.

  I don't suggest you specifically use MEK without further investigation.

  The stuff I was dissolving, which actually took hours depending on 
volume, was potting compound, (very similar to injection molding materials) not 
a gel.

  Worth an investigation anyway.
  --- On Sun, 3/7/10, gervais  wrote:


From: gervais 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT,,some gel on board
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 10:14 PM


  
hi all
i am working on my snowmobile,i have to work on a special board that 
has a kind of GEL to protect the circuit from
humidity...
i remember some years ago in a radio-mobile shop they add a kind of 
liquid that you drop over this gel and it would melt it
someone maybe know what i am talking about ,?
i dont remember what it was.
thanks for your help

i need it to repair my board,,, if i can

73/s
gervais ve2ckn
 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT,,some gel on board!!!!!!!!!!!!

[John King]

http://www.dynaloy.com/Products/tech_data_sheets/UresolveBlue411.pdf

73,
  john WA1ABI

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT,,some gel on board!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kevin valentino]

Is it a "gel" or more like a potting compound ?
 
I used Methyl Ethyl Keytone (MEK) to open potted circuits from competitors when 
i was in design and manufacturing engineering.
 
Worked great and even left identification of parts intact.
 
I don't suggest you specifically use MEK without further investigation.
 
The stuff I was dissolving, which actually took hours depending on volume, was 
potting compound, (very similar to injection molding materials) not a gel.

Worth an investigation anyway.
--- On Sun, 3/7/10, gervais  wrote:


From: gervais 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT,,some gel on board
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 10:14 PM


  




hi all
i am working on my snowmobile,i have to work on a special board that has a kind 
of GEL to protect the circuit from
humidity...
i remember some years ago in a radio-mobile shop they add a kind of liquid that 
you drop over this gel and it would melt it
someone maybe know what i am talking about ,?
i dont remember what it was.
thanks for your help
 
i need it to repair my board,,, if i can
 
73/s
gervais ve2ckn
 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT TAPR President Emeritus Dr David Toth, VE3GYQ (SK)

[Nate Duehr]

Thanks for forwarding, Don.

David VE3GYQ was certainly one of the "good guys". Great sense of humor, 
and very smart.

My last on-air conversation with him was driving down from one of the 
D-STAR repeater sites that was used temporarily until the system moved 
to the higher location here, trying to dial in D-STAR callsign routing 
information on a bumpy road, and both of us laughing when we'd both 
mis-set our radios and sometimes we could hear each other, sometimes we 
couldn't... we alternated between cell phone and D-STAR trying to figure 
out what we'd done wrong on both ends and eventually we got it right.

RIP David.

Nate WY0X

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Kenwood TM-3530A T Tones

[MCH]

Did you try using the keys on the front of the radio as the TTP? I think 
they still did that on that model and they don't have to be in a memory.

Joe M.

ka9qjg1 wrote:
> I have an Old Kenwood TM-3530A 220 Radio I need to be able to send TT To work 
> on My Repeater Controller 
> 
> The radio works fine I have a TT Kenwood Mic Good Audio but NO TT , I took it 
> apart and cleaned Everything and Still No TT , 
> 
> So I tried the Mic on My Kenwood TS-2000 Audio and TT Works fine. 
> 
> I downloaded the Manual and see that this Radio is the Same as 
> TM-2570, TM-2550, TM-5550 E
> And TM-2530A
> 
> I found that even without a TT Mic the Radio has built in TT Pad and Numbers 
> can be stored in Mem I do not Hear any TT When I press them either . but I 
> can hear them from the int Speaker but not  in the Carrier . 
> 
> I did the Adjustments to increase them but nothing is heard any Thoughts on 
> this would be greatly appreciated 
> 
> Thanks Don
> 
> KA9QJG 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT - re: contest replies to callers...

[Kris Kirby]

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Adam T. Cately wrote:
>If a station is "5-9-plus", why would you need a repeat?

Local QRM -- other operator won't shut up, or hearing temporarily masked 
by loud noise. Or stationed too close to the generator. Or...

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Astron RM-20A-BB Question

[Mike Besemer (WM4B)]

How is it overpriced?  The –BB is currently selling for $9 LESS than the
non-BB at my favorite vendor.

Mike
WM4B

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:26 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Astron RM-20A-BB Question

  
The BB option is an overpriced pair of big diodes, and 
a resetting of the voltage pot.

See the Astron page at < www.repeater-builder.com> 

At 07:08 PM 11/20/09, you wrote:
I have a RM-50. It has a 1/4" stud, by 1 1/4".
 
What is the BB option on your Astron?
I await your reply.
73's,    Jim    Kh6jkg.



-Original Message-
From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; amateur-repa...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 1:35 am
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Astron RM-20A-BB Question

  
Sorry for the Off-Topic post, but I know that this group is a great resource
for questions like this.

I'm thinking of purchasing an Astron RM-20A-BB to consolidate my power
source for all the ancillary equipment at my site (WX radio, link radio,
APRS radio, APRS tracker, etc), but I'd like to know what the power output
terminal are. I suspect they're 1/4" studs, but would like to know for
sure.

Thanks in advance es 73,

Mike
WM4B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Astron RM-20A-BB Question

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

The BB option is an overpriced pair of big diodes, and
a resetting of the voltage pot.

See the Astron page at 

At 07:08 PM 11/20/09, you wrote:


I have a RM-50. It has a 1/4" stud, by 1 1/4".

What is the BB option on your Astron?
I await your reply.
73's,JimKh6jkg.



-Original Message-
From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; amateur-repa...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 1:35 am
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Astron RM-20A-BB Question


Sorry for the Off-Topic post, but I know that this group is a great resource
for questions like this.

I'm thinking of purchasing an Astron RM-20A-BB to consolidate my power
source for all the ancillary equipment at my site (WX radio, link radio,
APRS radio, APRS tracker, etc), but I'd like to know what the power output
terminal are. I suspect they're 1/4" studs, but would like to know for
sure.

Thanks in advance es 73,

Mike
WM4B

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Astron RM-20A-BB Question

[Mike Besemer (WM4B)]

Switching for Battery Backup.

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kh6...@netscape.net
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:08 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Astron RM-20A-BB Question

 

  

I have a RM-50. It has a 1/4" stud, by 1 1/4".

 

What is the BB option on your Astron?

I await your reply.

73's,JimKh6jkg.





-Original Message-
From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; amateur-repa...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 1:35 am
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Astron RM-20A-BB Question

  

Sorry for the Off-Topic post, but I know that this group is a great resource
for questions like this.

I'm thinking of purchasing an Astron RM-20A-BB to consolidate my power
source for all the ancillary equipment at my site (WX radio, link radio,
APRS radio, APRS tracker, etc), but I'd like to know what the power output
terminal are. I suspect they're 1/4" studs, but would like to know for
sure.

Thanks in advance es 73,

Mike
WM4B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Astron RM-20A-BB Question

[kh6jkg]

I have a RM-50. It has a 1/4" stud, by 1 1/4".

What is the BB option on your Astron?
I await your reply.
73's,JimKh6jkg.




-Original Message-
From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; amateur-repa...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 1:35 am
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Astron RM-20A-BB Question


 

Sorry for the Off-Topic post, but I know that this group is a great resource
for questions like this.

I'm thinking of purchasing an Astron RM-20A-BB to consolidate my power
source for all the ancillary equipment at my site (WX radio, link radio,
APRS radio, APRS tracker, etc), but I'd like to know what the power output
terminal are. I suspect they're 1/4" studs, but would like to know for
sure.

Thanks in advance es 73,

Mike
WM4B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT - now I know where all of the older neat radios went....

[wd8chl]

Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:
> Check the photos at 
> 
> Mike WA6ILQ

Wow-AES's shelves should be so full!

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT - now I know where all of the older neat radios went....

[Mark]

If I had that guy's money, I'd burn mine...  hehehe
NICE collection!

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:29 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT - now I know where all of the older neat
radios went

Check the photos at 

Mike WA6ILQ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT ACSSB - how does it work and is it possible for the hobbyist to scratch build

[Derek J. Lassen]

Have a look at http://www.kangaus.com/kk7b.htm

At 01:50 11/12/2009 -0800, you wrote:



This problem (generating the 90 degree phase 
shift audio) is all that is keeping me from an 
experiment to generate a SSB signal using a 
little known technique I ran across in an old 
QST.  It seems that a phase modulated FM signal 
can be combined with amplitude modulation with 
the audio 90 degree phase shifted and generate a 
SSB signal.  The experiments referenced wound up 
with a SSB signal with full carrier.


My first foray into sideband operation back in 
the late '50s was with a command transmitter 
with the grids modified to push pull and 
applying push pull audio to the screens.  This 
generated a double sideband suppressed carrier signal.


I suspect that I could modify a GE Prog 
transmitter by rewiring the grids of a 60 Watt 
final to push pull and applying push pull audio 
to the screens and applying 90 degree phase 
shifted audio to the normal phase modulation 
input would generate a SSB suppressed carrier signal.


I suspect the pre-emphasis in the phase 
modulation circuit would have to be defeated, or 
does a phase modulation scheme automatically generate the pre-emphasis?


73 - Jim W5ZIT

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, DCFluX  wrote:

From: DCFluX 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] acssb - how does 
it work and is it possible for the hobbyist to scratch build

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 9:02 PM



I was playing with the ideas of making adapters, 
but it is supprisingly difficult to throw audio 
exactly 90 degrees out of phase over a broad frequency range.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's QST!

[Thomas Oliver]

Good one!


tom


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From: 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 10/22/2009 10:12:12 PM 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's 
QST!





>I was looking for a picture of Mike, not a picture of a car that Mike took.

Mike's a car thief?!?

73,
Bob, WA9FBO

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's QST!

[Chuck Kelsey]

The cops must have nabbed him :-)

You notice he's not on here defending himself. LOL!

Chuck


  - Original Message - 
  From: scom...@aol.com 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's 
QST!





  >I was looking for a picture of Mike, not a picture of a car that Mike took.

  Mike's a car thief?!?

  73,
  Bob, WA9FBO



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's QST!

[scomind]

 >I was looking for a picture of Mike, not a picture 
of a car that Mike took.

Mike's a car thief?!?

73,
Bob, WA9FBO






 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's QST!

[Scott Zimmerman]

Unless Mike looks like the @SS end of a Limo!!!

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531


Chuck Kelsey wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, there's the problem ;-)
>  
> I was looking for a picture of Mike, not a picture of a car that Mike 
> took. LOL
>  
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
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> Page number please. I skip through the rag most of the time.
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> 
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> 
> Congrats Mike on getting your photo published in this month’s QST!
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's QST!

[Mark]

I can see how my message was misconstrued.  Sorry!

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey



Well, there's the problem ;-)

 

I was looking for a picture of Mike, not a picture of a car that Mike took.
LOL

 

Chuck

WB2EDV

 

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From: Mark   

Bottom of Page 102.

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey

Page number please. I skip through the rag most of the time.

 

Chuck

WB2EDV

 

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From: Mark   

 

Congrats Mike on getting your photo published in this month's QST!

 

73 de Mark - N9WYS








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's QST!

[Chuck Kelsey]

Well, there's the problem ;-)

I was looking for a picture of Mike, not a picture of a car that Mike took. LOL

Chuck
WB2EDV



  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:48 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's 
QST!





  Bottom of Page 102.

   

  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey



  Page number please. I skip through the rag most of the time.

   

  Chuck

  WB2EDV

   

- Original Message - 

From: Mark 

 

Congrats Mike on getting your photo published in this month's QST!

 

73 de Mark - N9WYS




  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's QST!

[Mark]

Bottom of Page 102.

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey



Page number please. I skip through the rag most of the time.

 

Chuck

WB2EDV

 

- Original Message - 

From: Mark   

 

Congrats Mike on getting your photo published in this month's QST!

 

73 de Mark - N9WYS

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's QST!

[Chuck Kelsey]

Page number please. I skip through the rag most of the time.

Chuck
WB2EDV




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  From: Mark 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 1:39 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Our very own Mike Morris in this month's QST!





  Congrats Mike on getting your photo published in this month's QST!

   

  73 de Mark - N9WYS




  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT :HP question for the group

[Mike Dietrich]

Thanks much to all that reply'd !
Mike


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Dietrich 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT :HP question for the group



   Hi everyone,
  I have been looking at the HP8924C service monitors that are showing up 
surplus from the cellular carriers these days.
  I have not used this particular model so I have a question.
  Most state that it will do CDMA testing.

  Will this unit work in a "standalone" or "manual" mode as "normal" 
communication service monitors do ?

  The ones I have seen have a box on the screen for the cellular channel 
number, do you have to set it up by scrolling in the cell channel numbers or 
can you enter your own frequency on the keypad as you would on a "normal" 
service monitor.

  Will it do non cell freqs as for ham testing.

  Thanks in advance,

  Mike

  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT :HP question for the group

[Cort Buffington]

Mike,

what kind of price are you seeing on these? I have an IFR 1200 right  
now but I know one of these days So I like to keep up on this  
stuff when I can.

On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:45 PM, Mike Dietrich wrote:

>
>  Hi everyone,
> I have been looking at the HP8924C service monitors that are showing  
> up surplus from the cellular carriers these days.
> I have not used this particular model so I have a question.
> Most state that it will do CDMA testing.
>
> Will this unit work in a "standalone" or "manual" mode as "normal"  
> communication service monitors do ?
>
> The ones I have seen have a box on the screen for the cellular  
> channel number, do you have to set it up by scrolling in the cell  
> channel numbers or can you enter your own frequency on the keypad as  
> you would on a "normal" service monitor.
>
> Will it do non cell freqs as for ham testing.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mike
>
> 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT :HP question for the group

[Chris Curtis]

Yes, it works well for "ham" use.
I using one myself.
(recently brought "up to snuff" with MUCH help from Rick @ amtronix)

I would suggest a visit to:

http://www.amtronix.com/hp8924c60.htm

for a great "primer" on this monitor.

As others have mentioned, the "detractor" of this monitor is its bulk.

It is best suited to sit on your bench and never move.

:)

Chris
Kb0wlf


From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dietrich
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:45 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT :HP question for the group




 Hi everyone,
I have been looking at the HP8924C service monitors that are showing up
surplus from the cellular carriers these days.
I have not used this particular model so I have a question.
Most state that it will do CDMA testing.
 
Will this unit work in a "standalone" or "manual" mode as "normal"
communication service monitors do ?
 
The ones I have seen have a box on the screen for the cellular channel
number, do you have to set it up by scrolling in the cell channel numbers or
can you enter your own frequency on the keypad as you would on a "normal"
service monitor.
 
Will it do non cell freqs as for ham testing.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Mike




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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT :HP question for the group

[de W5DK]

Mike,

It will do all the analog procedures that a "normal" SM will do. Generate,
pl, TX test, duplex, tracking gen, spectrum analyzer, and a o scope. The
only problem is that it is a fairly heavy box. 

http://www.amtronix.com/hp8924c60.htm

A buddy of mine picked up a 8935 that I have played with also. Less
features. It is lighter than the 8924. It's another option.

http://www.amtronix.com/e6380a.htm

 

73

Don Kirchner W5DK 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dietrich
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:45 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT :HP question for the group

 





 Hi everyone,

I have been looking at the HP8924C service monitors that are showing up
surplus from the cellular carriers these days.

I have not used this particular model so I have a question.

Most state that it will do CDMA testing.

 

Will this unit work in a "standalone" or "manual" mode as "normal"
communication service monitors do ?

 

The ones I have seen have a box on the screen for the cellular channel
number, do you have to set it up by scrolling in the cell channel numbers or
can you enter your own frequency on the keypad as you would on a "normal"
service monitor.

 

Will it do non cell freqs as for ham testing.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Mike







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT :HP question for the group

[Mike Dietrich]

 Hi everyone,
I have been looking at the HP8924C service monitors that are showing up surplus 
from the cellular carriers these days.
I have not used this particular model so I have a question.
Most state that it will do CDMA testing.

Will this unit work in a "standalone" or "manual" mode as "normal" 
communication service monitors do ?

The ones I have seen have a box on the screen for the cellular channel number, 
do you have to set it up by scrolling in the cell channel numbers or can you 
enter your own frequency on the keypad as you would on a "normal" service 
monitor.

Will it do non cell freqs as for ham testing.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT : Amtronix is the coolest

[Jeff DePolo]

www.amtronix.com 

> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
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> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:09 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT : Amtronix is the coolest
> 
>   
> 
> Been reading this info can someone Please Post the Web site for them 
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks Don KA9QJG 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT : Amtronix is the coolest

[ka9qjg]

Been reading this info can someone Please Post the Web site for them 

 

Thanks Don KA9QJG 

 

 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT : Amtronix is the coolest

[Jeff DePolo]

Rick's the man.  Last time I sent an 8921 up to him for work, he gave me
*for free* an original HP hard road case for my service monitor, using it to
ship it back in.  Now I have a hard case to use when I travel by air and
need to take a SM with me.  If you have an HP 892x that needs work, he's the
guy to call.

--- Jeff WN3A

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> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ted Leonard
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:53 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT : Amtronix is the coolest
> 
>   
> 
> I personally know of 4 SM's purchased from Rick at Amtronix, myself 
> included.
> All of us are very happy with our dealings with Rick, he is 
> just a good 
> guy.
> 
> Ted W3VG
> .
> Scott Zimmerman wrote:
> > I had a VERY good experience with Rick as well. I too was having 
> > troubles with my 8920A. I put too much power into the duplex port. 
> > (OOPS) He was very helpful and talked me though what I 
> might find as 
> > well as how and where to find replacement parts. I know one 
> evening he 
> > and I were on the phone for OVER an HOUR. Rick had nothing 
> in this unit 
> > and didn't owe me a thing, but he was definitely VERY helpful and I 
> > would HIGHLY recommend him for any repairs.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > Scott Zimmerman
> > Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> > 474 Barnett Road
> > Boswell, PA 15531
> >
> >
> > Chris Curtis wrote:
> > 
> >> "how amtronix saved my bacon"
> >>
> >> So some of you followed the selling of my 1200s and 
> decision to use my 8924c
> >> for "everything".
> >>
> >> Well, since it worked fine tuning duplexers and sweeping 
> antennae, it should
> >> be fine all the way around.
> >>
> >> Wrong!
> >>
> >> Nothing over a watt or so would "read" properly on TX test.
> >>
> >> Also, sky high swr.
> >>
> >> Rick from Amtronix patiently walked me through some 
> trouble shooting areas
> >> via email.
> >>
> >> Now mind you, this isn't even one of "his units".
> >>
> >> Anyway, there was a solder blob in the input attenuator 
> housing bridging the
> >> input side of the attenuator to ground.
> >>
> >> Harsh!
> >>
> >> Now, thanks to Amtronix, my 8924c works like it should.
> >>
> >> They're the coolest!
> >>
> >> Chris
> >> Kb0wlf
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT : Amtronix is the coolest

[Ted Leonard]

I personally know of 4 SM's purchased from Rick at Amtronix, myself 
included.
All of us are very  happy with our dealings with Rick, he is just a good 
guy.

Ted W3VG
.
Scott Zimmerman wrote:
> I had a VERY good experience with Rick as well. I too was having 
> troubles with my 8920A. I put too much power into the duplex port. 
> (OOPS) He was very helpful and talked me though what I might find as 
> well as how and where to find replacement parts. I know one evening he 
> and I were on the phone for OVER an HOUR. Rick had nothing in this unit 
> and didn't owe me a thing, but he was definitely VERY helpful and I 
> would HIGHLY recommend him for any repairs.
>
> Scott
>
> Scott Zimmerman
> Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
> 474 Barnett Road
> Boswell, PA 15531
>
>
> Chris Curtis wrote:
>   
>> "how amtronix saved my bacon"
>>
>> So some of you followed the selling of my 1200s and decision to use my 8924c
>> for "everything".
>>
>> Well, since it worked fine tuning duplexers and sweeping antennae, it should
>> be fine all the way around.
>>
>> Wrong!
>>
>> Nothing over a watt or so would "read" properly on TX test.
>>
>> Also, sky high swr.
>>
>> Rick from Amtronix patiently walked me through some trouble shooting areas
>> via email.
>>
>> Now mind you, this isn't even one of "his units".
>>
>> Anyway, there was a solder blob in the input attenuator housing bridging the
>> input side of the attenuator to ground.
>>
>> Harsh!
>>
>> Now, thanks to Amtronix, my 8924c works like it should.
>>
>> They're the coolest!
>>
>> Chris
>> Kb0wlf
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
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> 
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>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
> 
>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT : Amtronix is the coolest

[Scott Zimmerman]

I had a VERY good experience with Rick as well. I too was having 
troubles with my 8920A. I put too much power into the duplex port. 
(OOPS) He was very helpful and talked me though what I might find as 
well as how and where to find replacement parts. I know one evening he 
and I were on the phone for OVER an HOUR. Rick had nothing in this unit 
and didn't owe me a thing, but he was definitely VERY helpful and I 
would HIGHLY recommend him for any repairs.

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531


Chris Curtis wrote:
> "how amtronix saved my bacon"
> 
> So some of you followed the selling of my 1200s and decision to use my 8924c
> for "everything".
> 
> Well, since it worked fine tuning duplexers and sweeping antennae, it should
> be fine all the way around.
> 
> Wrong!
> 
> Nothing over a watt or so would "read" properly on TX test.
> 
> Also, sky high swr.
> 
> Rick from Amtronix patiently walked me through some trouble shooting areas
> via email.
> 
> Now mind you, this isn't even one of "his units".
> 
> Anyway, there was a solder blob in the input attenuator housing bridging the
> input side of the attenuator to ground.
> 
> Harsh!
> 
> Now, thanks to Amtronix, my 8924c works like it should.
> 
> They're the coolest!
> 
> Chris
> Kb0wlf
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT : Amtronix is the coolest

[de W5DK]

I have purchased/traded with Amtronixs and had a good experience also.
Helping you with an item you didn't buy from him? He probably felt sorry
knowing you had to carry it occasionally? LOL

It's nice to hear something positive for a change.

Don W5DK


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Curtis
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:30 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT : Amtronix is the coolest

"how amtronix saved my bacon"

So some of you followed the selling of my 1200s and decision to use my 8924c
for "everything".

Well, since it worked fine tuning duplexers and sweeping antennae, it should
be fine all the way around.

Wrong!

Nothing over a watt or so would "read" properly on TX test.

Also, sky high swr.

Rick from Amtronix patiently walked me through some trouble shooting areas
via email.

Now mind you, this isn't even one of "his units".

Anyway, there was a solder blob in the input attenuator housing bridging the
input side of the attenuator to ground.

Harsh!

Now, thanks to Amtronix, my 8924c works like it should.

They're the coolest!

Chris
Kb0wlf







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Tim Horton's

[Chuck Kelsey]

Tim Horton's has been in my neck of the woods (Western New York State) for 
many years now. But I've never been in one. Had their doughnuts, however.

Chuck
WB2EDV


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Szajkowski
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820




a DD is a Double Cream /milk with Double Sugar


Timmies is a Coffie Chain like Dunk'n Donuts but better ..  I have noticed 
Tim Horton's is in the US now ..  ( Mr Tim Horton was a NHL player)

it is a sister Co. To Wendy's




On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Jeff DePolo  wrote:


Timmie's (Timmy's?) is Tim Horton's, a restaurant/fast food chain in Canada
(and I think they have some franchises in the US now too?). I don't know
what to best equate it to here in the US - maybe kind of like a milder
version of a Panera or Atlanta Bread Company or maybe Dunkin' Donuts? At
least that's how I remember them from my past visits up north. A
double-double is a coffee with double sugar and double cream (I think?).
I'm sure someone from "up dere" will enlighten us with a more authoritative
answer...

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT FS: IFR-1200s

[Mark]

WOW!  That was FAST!!!  

Sorry, Chris!

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Mark wrote:
> Chris,
> 
> I just checked this and it says the auction has ended.  
> Ended: Sep 18, 200907:43:37 PDT 

Someone used buy-it-now for $1,100.

Great deal :)

Tedd Doda, VE3TJD

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT FS: IFR-1200s

[Chris Curtis]

Thanks for the bandwidth.

The monitor did sell.

The kids say thank you!

Chris
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> 
> Mark wrote:
> > Chris,
> >
> > I just checked this and it says the auction has ended.
> > Ended: Sep 18, 200907:43:37 PDT
> 
> Someone used buy-it-now for $1,100.
> 
> Great deal :)
> 
> Tedd Doda, VE3TJD
> 
> Lazer Audio and Electronics
> http://www.ve3tjd.com
> 
> My idea of a symphony: 8 pistons playing the tune
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> 
> 
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