Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
Well since you have Internet you could also have VoIP phone to maintain the autopatch. CallCentric or another open peering provider etc On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Mike Besemer \(WM4B\) mwbese...@cox.net wrote: At our club meeting tonight a discussion came up regarding the cost of the phone line to our 2-meter repeater system. Originally it was there for the Autopatch, but has evolved to being primarily used for me to program the controller (CAT-1000) and to control the system. (The autopatch is rarely used, since everyone carries a cellphone now.) Everyone understands that the phone line is needed for control and programming, but we started toying with other ideas. Specifically, having an Internet connection at the site seemed like it had a lot of potential, but frankly I don’t know why! It’d be nice to run an I-Gate from that location (we already have an APRS weather node there), but it’s not essential. I could probably use it to monitor the site as well, but that’s not really much of a concern either. So, the question is, how can we use Internet to control/program the CAT-1000? We could get Internet at the site for about the same cost as the phone, and if we could use it for repeater control/programming AND the other things I mentioned, it’d be a better deal. Can IRLP be used for control/programming? I’m not familiar with that system whatsoever, but am always willing to learn. 73, Mike WM4B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
Mike, I use the internet to my repeater site to control everything. Including the AC, Heating, Packet, Alarm System, and controlling/programming the two CAT-1000s on the VHF and UHF repeaters. I am planning on adding IRLP as well as video feeds at the site. I use a program called VNC2. It is the free version and works very well for me. Kenneth Cook, W8DZN 5726 Timpson Rd. Caledonia, Ohio 43314 ARRL VE, ARRL Registered, Certified Instructor/Examiner for ECOMM Levels I, II and III IS-22, IS-100, IS-120A, IS-200, IS700, IS-800 and IS -802 Certified. W8DZN Repeaters in Bucyrus, Ohio Repeaters 147.165 PL88.5 442.525 PL88.5 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:32 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line At our club meeting tonight a discussion came up regarding the cost of the phone line to our 2-meter repeater system. Originally it was there for the Autopatch, but has evolved to being primarily used for me to program the controller (CAT-1000) and to control the system. (The autopatch is rarely used, since everyone carries a cellphone now.) Everyone understands that the phone line is needed for control and programming, but we started toying with other ideas. Specifically, having an Internet connection at the site seemed like it had a lot of potential, but frankly I don't know why! It'd be nice to run an I-Gate from that location (we already have an APRS weather node there), but it's not essential. I could probably use it to monitor the site as well, but that's not really much of a concern either. So, the question is, how can we use Internet to control/program the CAT-1000? We could get Internet at the site for about the same cost as the phone, and if we could use it for repeater control/programming AND the other things I mentioned, it'd be a better deal. Can IRLP be used for control/programming? I'm not familiar with that system whatsoever, but am always willing to learn. 73, Mike WM4B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
If you had an irlp box on site, you have a couple options for 'programming' a controller. You can remote into the irlp box as user repeater and make use of the dtmf regen function. This would allow you to send dtmf sequences OUT of the irlp box INTO the controller on the audio input. Or, if your controller uses raw serial data, your could remote into the irlp box and use the terminal program to 'connect' to the controller via serial ports. Good luck Kb0wlf From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:32 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line At our club meeting tonight a discussion came up regarding the cost of the phone line to our 2-meter repeater system. Originally it was there for the Autopatch, but has evolved to being primarily used for me to program the controller (CAT-1000) and to control the system. (The autopatch is rarely used, since everyone carries a cellphone now.) Everyone understands that the phone line is needed for control and programming, but we started toying with other ideas. Specifically, having an Internet connection at the site seemed like it had a lot of potential, but frankly I don't know why! It'd be nice to run an I-Gate from that location (we already have an APRS weather node there), but it's not essential. I could probably use it to monitor the site as well, but that's not really much of a concern either. So, the question is, how can we use Internet to control/program the CAT-1000? We could get Internet at the site for about the same cost as the phone, and if we could use it for repeater control/programming AND the other things I mentioned, it'd be a better deal. Can IRLP be used for control/programming? I'm not familiar with that system whatsoever, but am always willing to learn. 73, Mike WM4B No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.439 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2962 - Release Date: 07/08/10 06:36:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
Kenneth, Can you elaborate on the programming piece? I'm hung up on the fact that to program the CAT-1000 via serial port, you've got to first activate the CAT-1000 serial port via the DIP switch. (I'm thinking there may be a DTMF command to activate the serial port as well, but don't have my manual handy.) 73, Mike WM4B _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Cook Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line Mike, I use the internet to my repeater site to control everything. Including the AC, Heating, Packet, Alarm System, and controlling/programming the two CAT-1000s on the VHF and UHF repeaters. I am planning on adding IRLP as well as video feeds at the site. I use a program called VNC2. It is the free version and works very well for me. Kenneth Cook, W8DZN 5726 Timpson Rd. Caledonia, Ohio 43314 ARRL VE, ARRL Registered, Certified Instructor/Examiner for ECOMM Levels I, II and III IS-22, IS-100, IS-120A, IS-200, IS700, IS-800 and IS -802 Certified. W8DZN Repeaters in Bucyrus, Ohio Repeaters 147.165 PL88.5 442.525 PL88.5 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:32 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line At our club meeting tonight a discussion came up regarding the cost of the phone line to our 2-meter repeater system. Originally it was there for the Autopatch, but has evolved to being primarily used for me to program the controller (CAT-1000) and to control the system. (The autopatch is rarely used, since everyone carries a cellphone now.) Everyone understands that the phone line is needed for control and programming, but we started toying with other ideas. Specifically, having an Internet connection at the site seemed like it had a lot of potential, but frankly I don't know why! It'd be nice to run an I-Gate from that location (we already have an APRS weather node there), but it's not essential. I could probably use it to monitor the site as well, but that's not really much of a concern either. So, the question is, how can we use Internet to control/program the CAT-1000? We could get Internet at the site for about the same cost as the phone, and if we could use it for repeater control/programming AND the other things I mentioned, it'd be a better deal. Can IRLP be used for control/programming? I'm not familiar with that system whatsoever, but am always willing to learn. 73, Mike WM4B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
Yet another option. 930Mhz serial data radios. I found a pair Data Link Group radios on eBay for $100. Would be like plugging it in to the back of your computer. There quite easy to get running. Well over 20miles LOS. And one of my radios was on an omni. I use them for weather stations and camera control. Have fun 73 Ross www.kc7rjk.net http://www.kc7rjk.net/ -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:32 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line At our club meeting tonight a discussion came up regarding the cost of the phone line to our 2-meter repeater system. Originally it was there for the Autopatch, but has evolved to being primarily used for me to program the controller (CAT-1000) and to control the system. (The autopatch is rarely used, since everyone carries a cellphone now.) Everyone understands that the phone line is needed for control and programming, but we started toying with other ideas. Specifically, having an Internet connection at the site seemed like it had a lot of potential, but frankly I don't know why! It'd be nice to run an I-Gate from that location (we already have an APRS weather node there), but it's not essential. I could probably use it to monitor the site as well, but that's not really much of a concern either. So, the question is, how can we use Internet to control/program the CAT-1000? We could get Internet at the site for about the same cost as the phone, and if we could use it for repeater control/programming AND the other things I mentioned, it'd be a better deal. Can IRLP be used for control/programming? I'm not familiar with that system whatsoever, but am always willing to learn. 73, Mike WM4B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
That'd work for me from my home QTH, but not for my other control ops or from my mobile. I'd like to have more than 20 miles range as well. It's an interesting idea though and I do know where I can get my hands on a couple of data radios. Thanks! 73, Mike WM4B _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ross Johnson Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:13 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line Yet another option. 930Mhz serial data radios. I found a pair Data Link Group radios on eBay for $100. Would be like plugging it in to the back of your computer. There quite easy to get running. Well over 20miles LOS. And one of my radios was on an omni. I use them for weather stations and camera control. Have fun 73 Ross www.kc7rjk.net http://www.kc7rjk.net/ -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:32 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line At our club meeting tonight a discussion came up regarding the cost of the phone line to our 2-meter repeater system. Originally it was there for the Autopatch, but has evolved to being primarily used for me to program the controller (CAT-1000) and to control the system. (The autopatch is rarely used, since everyone carries a cellphone now.) Everyone understands that the phone line is needed for control and programming, but we started toying with other ideas. Specifically, having an Internet connection at the site seemed like it had a lot of potential, but frankly I don't know why! It'd be nice to run an I-Gate from that location (we already have an APRS weather node there), but it's not essential. I could probably use it to monitor the site as well, but that's not really much of a concern either. So, the question is, how can we use Internet to control/program the CAT-1000? We could get Internet at the site for about the same cost as the phone, and if we could use it for repeater control/programming AND the other things I mentioned, it'd be a better deal. Can IRLP be used for control/programming? I'm not familiar with that system whatsoever, but am always willing to learn. 73, Mike WM4B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
At 05:58 AM 07/09/10, you wrote: Kenneth, Can you elaborate on the programming piece? I'm hung up on the fact that to program the CAT-1000 via serial port, you've got to first activate the CAT-1000 serial port via the DIP switch. (I'm thinking there may be a DTMF command to activate the serial port as well, but don't have my manual handy.) 73, Mike WM4B Basically you cross-connect a serial port from the IRLP computer to the CAT controller. Then you remote into the IRLP computer, and you can program the CAT just as if you were local to it. And the serial cable from the IRLP box to the CAT will have to cross over the transmit and receive data lines. I've never used a CAT controller, so have no idea how the remote programming is done. If serial won't work for you , then you can always use the DTMF send feature of the IRLP software to send DTMF strings to one of the receiver audio inputs of the CAT. I helped out on one repeater where the owner had AUX 3 output of the IRLP card wired to a reed relay coil. One armature of the relay was wired to the receiver audio in connection on the repeater controller , the normally closed contact was wired to the repeater receiver audio, the normally open contact was wired to the IRLP sound card output. With AUX3 off the system worked normally, with AUX 3 on it allowed remote programming. As to the serial port on the CAT being active, well, you will have to handle that as a separate project. As I said above, I've never seen a CAT controller in person. Do you have to flip the switch between operating and programing, or can you leave it in the programming enabled position and still have the system usable?? Worst case, use the above idea and use a multiple pole relay, with one pole across the particular section of the DIP switch? Then flip the DIP switch remotely with an AUX output? Mike WA6ILQ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
Mike, Im thinking along the same lines as what youre saying. I got the manual out and found that I can remotely activate the serial port without having to flip the switch. Id thought of using a relay as well, but wanted to avoid any additional hardware. Both of the CAT ports are in use, but I might be about to parallel the audio into one of the ports to allow DTMF control as well. More to think about why do I get myself into these things?! 73, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:19 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line Basically you cross-connect a serial port from the IRLP computer to the CAT controller. Then you remote into the IRLP computer, and you can program the CAT just as if you were local to it. And the serial cable from the IRLP box to the CAT will have to cross over the transmit and receive data lines. I've never used a CAT controller, so have no idea how the remote programming is done. If serial won't work for you , then you can always use the DTMF send feature of the IRLP software to send DTMF strings to one of the receiver audio inputs of the CAT. I helped out on one repeater where the owner had AUX 3 output of the IRLP card wired to a reed relay coil. One armature of the relay was wired to the receiver audio in connection on the repeater controller , the normally closed contact was wired to the repeater receiver audio, the normally open contact was wired to the IRLP sound card output. With AUX3 off the system worked normally, with AUX 3 on it allowed remote programming. As to the serial port on the CAT being active, well, you will have to handle that as a separate project. As I said above, I've never seen a CAT controller in person. Do you have to flip the switch between operating and programing, or can you leave it in the programming enabled position and still have the system usable?? Worst case, use the above idea and use a multiple pole relay, with one pole across the particular section of the DIP switch? Then flip the DIP switch remotely with an AUX output? Mike WA6ILQ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
Hi Mike, I think I already answered this. If not let me know.. OK? Kenneth Cook, W8DZN 5726 Timpson Rd. Caledonia, Ohio 43314 ARRL VE, ARRL Registered, Certified Instructor/Examiner for ECOMM Levels I, II and III IS-22, IS-100, IS-120A, IS-200, IS700, IS-800 and IS -802 Certified. W8DZN Repeaters in Bucyrus, Ohio Repeaters 147.165 PL88.5 442.525 PL88.5 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:19 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line At 05:58 AM 07/09/10, you wrote: Kenneth, Can you elaborate on the programming piece? Im hung up on the fact that to program the CAT-1000 via serial port, youve got to first activate the CAT-1000 serial port via the DIP switch. (Im thinking there may be a DTMF command to activate the serial port as well, but dont have my manual handy.) 73, Mike WM4B Basically you cross-connect a serial port from the IRLP computer to the CAT controller. Then you remote into the IRLP computer, and you can program the CAT just as if you were local to it. And the serial cable from the IRLP box to the CAT will have to cross over the transmit and receive data lines. I've never used a CAT controller, so have no idea how the remote programming is done. If serial won't work for you , then you can always use the DTMF send feature of the IRLP software to send DTMF strings to one of the receiver audio inputs of the CAT. I helped out on one repeater where the owner had AUX 3 output of the IRLP card wired to a reed relay coil. One armature of the relay was wired to the receiver audio in connection on the repeater controller , the normally closed contact was wired to the repeater receiver audio, the normally open contact was wired to the IRLP sound card output. With AUX3 off the system worked normally, with AUX 3 on it allowed remote programming. As to the serial port on the CAT being active, well, you will have to handle that as a separate project. As I said above, I've never seen a CAT controller in person. Do you have to flip the switch between operating and programing, or can you leave it in the programming enabled position and still have the system usable?? Worst case, use the above idea and use a multiple pole relay, with one pole across the particular section of the DIP switch? Then flip the DIP switch remotely with an AUX output? Mike WA6ILQ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
Hi Guys, I started a few years back working on a DTMF Keypad locally to program the controllers. I needed to buffer the audio to make it work, but never finished it. Maybe someday I will. There used to be a company the sold a Keypad setup for the CAT Controllers. Kenneth Cook, W8DZN 5726 Timpson Rd. Caledonia, Ohio 43314 ARRL VE, ARRL Registered, Certified Instructor/Examiner for ECOMM Levels I, II and III IS-22, IS-100, IS-120A, IS-200, IS700, IS-800 and IS -802 Certified. W8DZN Repeaters in Bucyrus, Ohio Repeaters 147.165 PL88.5 442.525 PL88.5 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:12 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line Mike, Im thinking along the same lines as what youre saying. I got the manual out and found that I can remotely activate the serial port without having to flip the switch. Id thought of using a relay as well, but wanted to avoid any additional hardware. Both of the CAT ports are in use, but I might be about to parallel the audio into one of the ports to allow DTMF control as well. More to think about why do I get myself into these things?! 73, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Morris Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:19 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line Basically you cross-connect a serial port from the IRLP computer to the CAT controller. Then you remote into the IRLP computer, and you can program the CAT just as if you were local to it. And the serial cable from the IRLP box to the CAT will have to cross over the transmit and receive data lines. I've never used a CAT controller, so have no idea how the remote programming is done. If serial won't work for you , then you can always use the DTMF send feature of the IRLP software to send DTMF strings to one of the receiver audio inputs of the CAT. I helped out on one repeater where the owner had AUX 3 output of the IRLP card wired to a reed relay coil. One armature of the relay was wired to the receiver audio in connection on the repeater controller , the normally closed contact was wired to the repeater receiver audio, the normally open contact was wired to the IRLP sound card output. With AUX3 off the system worked normally, with AUX 3 on it allowed remote programming. As to the serial port on the CAT being active, well, you will have to handle that as a separate project. As I said above, I've never seen a CAT controller in person. Do you have to flip the switch between operating and programing, or can you leave it in the programming enabled position and still have the system usable?? Worst case, use the above idea and use a multiple pole relay, with one pole across the particular section of the DIP switch? Then flip the DIP switch remotely with an AUX output? Mike WA6ILQ
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
Thanks Ken. this is looking interesting now! On the way to the site in a few minutes to swap out an APRS radio. Gonna have to look around a little! 73, Mike WM4B _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Cook Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line Yes there is a DTMF command. Using the CAT-1000 Editor and Communication program. Start the terminal program and send 100 97 and this activiates the RS232 port. Type the password cat1000 and I can send files to and from the controller. I program them off line and then load them. I also use a simple FTP server at the site to transfer files between my home and the site. Here is an attached file that may help you. 73.de Kenneth Cook, W8DZN 5726 Timpson Rd. Caledonia, Ohio 43314 ARRL VE, ARRL Registered, Certified Instructor/Examiner for ECOMM Levels I, II and III IS-22, IS-100, IS-120A, IS-200, IS700, IS-800 and IS -802 Certified. W8DZN Repeaters in Bucyrus, Ohio Repeaters 147.165 PL88.5 442.525 PL88.5 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:59 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line Kenneth, Can you elaborate on the programming piece? I'm hung up on the fact that to program the CAT-1000 via serial port, you've got to first activate the CAT-1000 serial port via the DIP switch. (I'm thinking there may be a DTMF command to activate the serial port as well, but don't have my manual handy.) 73, Mike WM4B _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Cook Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line Mike, I use the internet to my repeater site to control everything. Including the AC, Heating, Packet, Alarm System, and controlling/programming the two CAT-1000s on the VHF and UHF repeaters. I am planning on adding IRLP as well as video feeds at the site. I use a program called VNC2. It is the free version and works very well for me. Kenneth Cook, W8DZN 5726 Timpson Rd. Caledonia, Ohio 43314 ARRL VE, ARRL Registered, Certified Instructor/Examiner for ECOMM Levels I, II and III IS-22, IS-100, IS-120A, IS-200, IS700, IS-800 and IS -802 Certified. W8DZN Repeaters in Bucyrus, Ohio Repeaters 147.165 PL88.5 442.525 PL88.5 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:32 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line At our club meeting tonight a discussion came up regarding the cost of the phone line to our 2-meter repeater system. Originally it was there for the Autopatch, but has evolved to being primarily used for me to program the controller (CAT-1000) and to control the system. (The autopatch is rarely used, since everyone carries a cellphone now.) Everyone understands that the phone line is needed for control and programming, but we started toying with other ideas. Specifically, having an Internet connection at the site seemed like it had a lot of potential, but frankly I don't know why! It'd be nice to run an I-Gate from that location (we already have an APRS weather node there), but it's not essential. I could probably use it to monitor the site as well, but that's not really much of a concern either. So, the question is, how can we use Internet to control/program the CAT-1000? We could get Internet at the site for about the same cost as the phone, and if we could use it for repeater control/programming AND the other things I mentioned, it'd be a better deal. Can IRLP be used for control/programming? I'm not familiar with that system whatsoever, but am always willing to learn. 73, Mike WM4B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
Good Luck. Kenneth Cook, W8DZN 5726 Timpson Rd. Caledonia, Ohio 43314 ARRL VE, ARRL Registered, Certified Instructor/Examiner for ECOMM Levels I, II and III IS-22, IS-100, IS-120A, IS-200, IS700, IS-800 and IS -802 Certified. W8DZN Repeaters in Bucyrus, Ohio Repeaters 147.165 PL88.5 442.525 PL88.5 _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line Thanks Ken. this is looking interesting now! On the way to the site in a few minutes to swap out an APRS radio. Gonna have to look around a little! 73, Mike WM4B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
For about 10 years I have been controlling my repeater using an internet connection. The repeater is 1900 miles away from me. Wireline control is legal for amateur radio! -- Original Message -- Received: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:31:52 PM PDT From: Mike Besemer \(WM4B\) mwbese...@cox.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line At our club meeting tonight a discussion came up regarding the cost of the phone line to our 2-meter repeater system. Originally it was there for the Autopatch, but has evolved to being primarily used for me to program the controller (CAT-1000) and to control the system. (The autopatch is rarely used, since everyone carries a cellphone now.) Everyone understands that the phone line is needed for control and programming, but we started toying with other ideas. Specifically, having an Internet connection at the site seemed like it had a lot of potential, but frankly I don't know why! It'd be nice to run an I-Gate from that location (we already have an APRS weather node there), but it's not essential. I could probably use it to monitor the site as well, but that's not really much of a concern either. So, the question is, how can we use Internet to control/program the CAT-1000? We could get Internet at the site for about the same cost as the phone, and if we could use it for repeater control/programming AND the other things I mentioned, it'd be a better deal. Can IRLP be used for control/programming? I'm not familiar with that system whatsoever, but am always willing to learn. 73, Mike WM4B
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
Yes it is. Care to describe your setup? 73, Mike WM4B ARRL O-O _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JOHN MACKEY Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:15 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line For about 10 years I have been controlling my repeater using an internet connection. The repeater is 1900 miles away from me. Wireline control is legal for amateur radio! -- Original Message -- Received: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:31:52 PM PDT From: Mike Besemer \(WM4B\) mwbese...@cox.net mailto:mwbesemer%40cox.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line At our club meeting tonight a discussion came up regarding the cost of the phone line to our 2-meter repeater system. Originally it was there for the Autopatch, but has evolved to being primarily used for me to program the controller (CAT-1000) and to control the system. (The autopatch is rarely used, since everyone carries a cellphone now.) Everyone understands that the phone line is needed for control and programming, but we started toying with other ideas. Specifically, having an Internet connection at the site seemed like it had a lot of potential, but frankly I don't know why! It'd be nice to run an I-Gate from that location (we already have an APRS weather node there), but it's not essential. I could probably use it to monitor the site as well, but that's not really much of a concern either. So, the question is, how can we use Internet to control/program the CAT-1000? We could get Internet at the site for about the same cost as the phone, and if we could use it for repeater control/programming AND the other things I mentioned, it'd be a better deal. Can IRLP be used for control/programming? I'm not familiar with that system whatsoever, but am always willing to learn. 73, Mike WM4B
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
You could get a Magic Jack and keep the same phone number and everything. The only thing that would change is the bill. Of course, this requires an internet connection. But, the cost of that plus the MJ could be lower than what you are paying now. Joe M. Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: At our club meeting tonight a discussion came up regarding the cost of the phone line to our 2-meter repeater system. Originally it was there for the Autopatch, but has evolved to being primarily used for me to program the controller (CAT-1000) and to control the system. (The autopatch is rarely used, since everyone carries a cellphone now.) Everyone understands that the phone line is needed for control and programming, but we started toying with other ideas. Specifically, having an Internet connection at the site seemed like it had a lot of potential, but frankly I don’t know why! It’d be nice to run an I-Gate from that location (we already have an APRS weather node there), but it’s not essential. I could probably use it to monitor the site as well, but that’s not really much of a concern either. So, the question is, how can we use Internet to control/program the CAT-1000? We could get Internet at the site for about the same cost as the phone, and if we could use it for repeater control/programming AND the other things I mentioned, it’d be a better deal. Can IRLP be used for control/programming? I’m not familiar with that system whatsoever, but am always willing to learn. 73, Mike WM4B Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: repeater-builder-dig...@yahoogroups.com repeater-builder-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: repeater-builder-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Control Operator via Other-Than-Phone-Line
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