[Repeater-Builder] How to wire 2 SyntorX 9000 for repeater opt.
I was look at some of the posts and one of the post's showed a repeater that was 2 Syntor X9000's wired up to a controller. I would like to know how to do this. I have 2 X9000 in the UHF band 100watt and a CSI Shared Repeater tone panel. I looked at Mike's web site and didn't find anything on doing that. This is for a home site repeater and I would like to replace the GR400 with 2 M120's I'm using now. Thank for any help on this Steve M Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] 5 tone
Yes some of the older ham rigs had DTMF decode, BUT, my new TH-F6a does not appear to have that capability any more. That is one reason that our group has not started using DTMF decoding even though the controller is able to send it. And yes, I still have a HTX-202 in the fleet, if I need to do DTMF paging. Steve KA5YFC -Original Message- From: Lee Williams Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 5 tone Many groups use DTMF decoders,already in common use. Its easy for any ham rig or repeater controller to encode. LiTZ (long tone zero) is already accepted as the universal call for help,I use it when sending weather alerts. Most modern ham rigs have DTMF decode capability,even my old Rad Shack 202 ! Why re-invent the wheel? Seasons Greetings and 73,Lee,N3APP Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Coaxial sp3t switch
Does anyone know if anyone makes a SP4T 12vdc switch that is N.C.? I looked on the net found some Dowkey type switchs but all of then are N.O. A buddy of mine gave me an old Super Scanner antenna 3 beam and the relay box fell apart. It had these little 3amp icecube relays to turn off 2 of the elements. 1 would be the radiator and the other 2 would be reflectors giving a 120 deg beam. With all of the elements driven it would be omni. I think I need the 4th post on the switch for a tuning stub for the omni mode. Also can these switchs be mount at the antenna or do they need to be put in a waterproof box? Here is a link for the manual http://cbtricks.com/ant_manuals/ant_spec/super-scanner.pdf Thank for any help Steve Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Propogation
I'm not sure who mentioned it, but the GE VHF and UHF Propogation DataFile Bulletin is no. 10003-1 dated July 1962. Calculation of Range and Signal Strenght for Land Mobile Radio Communication Systems Above 30 MC Included was: Signal Strenght Calculation - Form 10003-3 Point to Point, and Base Station to Mobile. Profile Paper - 4/3 Earth Curvature (SN D7667985) A GE Range and Signal Strenth Calculator ECR-16 was included. A beautiful piece by Mr. Shepherd of the Advanced Engineering Sec. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] GE Manuals
I have ALL GE Manuals available for reproduction. All DataFiles All LBI's My repropductions are exact and complete, and of VERY high quality. I do not provide cheap copies, in any sense of the meaning. Steve Scott. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Astron Supply Help
I remember buying some stuff at an auto parts store a few years back that was clear and used for automotive distributor caps and such. I can't remember if it was silicone based stuff or not. I got my white stuff (heat sink compound) at the local Radio Shack... Steve, KE4MOB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tedd Doda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 11:35:29 -0400, Jim B. wrote: umm-heat sink grease (thermal compound) is not clear. It can be. The common stuff is white, but I've seen the clear variation on lots of industrial equipment (DC-DC motor controllers for example) used for their FET's and SCR's. Tedd Doda, VE3TJD Lazer Audio and Electronics Baden, Ontario, Canada Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] What is it?
We are getting some strange receiver noises (intermittent pops/cracks/static) as well as sudden losses of sensitivity on our 2 meter machine. This is what the top of our tower looks like: http://www.qsl.net/ke4mob/antenna1.jpg http://www.qsl.net/ke4mob/antenna2.jpg The thin white vertical is our Hustler G7. The other antenna is what I'm asking about. I know it's probably a late 70's era UHF TV broadcast antenna...our site was used by the county gov't for a TV translator site before it was abandoned. It needs to come off, but how much does this thing weigh? I don't want to tie a ginpole to it, loosen all eight bolts and find out it weighs 300 poundsespecially if gravity suddenly takes over!!! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: What is it?
We are the only tenant on the tower. There is no other radio equipment on the site...and the only tower on the mountain. So it's just us (and we get the site rent free...yay!!) Apparently, someone had three of these sites built in the late seventies. Eventually, they ended up being controlled by the county supervisors, and six licenses were acquired (W55AK/W51AD,W59AL/W57AI,W65AR/W63AK) for translator stations, which were then reassigned to the local ABC affiliate. Three years ago, apparently the supervisors decided to discontinue two of the sites and reorient the pattern on the third to cover the whole county. When we took over our site (W59AL/W57AI site) the Emcee cabinets/equipment was still installed--they have been since removed to county storage (alongside our club's emergency equipment). (They left the antenna, 2 1/2 hardline and what looks to be a 6 can set of UHF cavities. Darn I hate that!!) We had a club member test the antenna...I wasn't present, but he said the SWR was sky high on 2 meters using an MFJ analyzer into the feedline inside the building. I didn't check it myself, so I can't swear one way or the other--he could have been on the wrong feedline. Any way, thanks on all the help...looks like another climb coming up when I get the chance and who knows...maybe a 440 machine is in the works??? We already have most of the equipment Steve, KE4MOB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before you go and cut down this UHF slotted dipole antenna Off the top.. My questions are Do you Own the Tower? or just another Tenant using it? make sure that No one using it. it may no longer be used for a translator, However It may still be used by a local LPTV station. Personally I do not thing that the slotted dipole is the cause of interference... On our Tower the static problems were caused by oxidation on the Guy Cables and in the tower sections... We ended up Bonding all the Tower sections together with straps and lube all the Guy cable Connection points with Lithium Grease. this solved our repeater noise problem for almost 2 years... Just recently the noise came back. BTW I would use the Lithium Grease on each of the sections of the G7 also then use Heat shrink to seal over the joints so the weather does not affect the grease.. My G7 on 220 has been in operationsince the late 80's with no problems... Neal KA2CAF CE/CO WTTM,WYGG,WUPC. Jack Davis wrote: This looks like one of the old Bogner 8 bay UHF antennas, I would guess it weighs somewhere in the 750 to 1250 pound range. I believe that Cablewave picked up the Bogner line and later merged with RFS. With your picture you may be able to get a spec sheet from them. You could try Bill Mieola at RFS and see if he can help you out. If weight is an issue, you may have to take an acetylene torch up the tower and hack it into pieces that can be disposed of. Have you tried to run your repeater into this antenna? You may be surprised! Jack K6YC - Original Message - From: Joe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] What is it? I would join, then post a question to the Tower-Pro group here on YahooGroups. They should be able to give you an idea of weight. Any of the commercial TV-FM antennas that I have seen can get pretty heavy. 73, Joe, K1ike At 10:58 PM 9/12/2004, you wrote: We are getting some strange receiver noises (intermittent pops/cracks/static) as well as sudden losses of sensitivity on our 2 meter machine. This is what the top of our tower looks like: http://www.qsl.net/ke4mob/antenna1.jpg http://www.qsl.net/ke4mob/antenna2.jpg The thin white vertical is our Hustler G7. The other antenna is what I'm asking about. I know it's probably a late 70's era UHF TV broadcast antenna...our site was used by the county gov't for a TV translator site before it was abandoned. It needs to come off, but how much does this thing weigh? I don't want to tie a ginpole to it, loosen all eight bolts and find out it weighs 300 poundsespecially if gravity suddenly takes over!!! All outgoing email scanned with Norton AntiVirus2004. -- -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=Unsubscribe * Your
[Repeater-Builder] 4-bay dipole array harness lengths
I'm thinking about building this: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/exposeddipole.html However, I'm having trouble reproducing the calculation that yields a 63.8 inch coax length. I'm assuming the velocity factor is .67 and keep getting 68 inches for a 5/4 wave...off from 63.8 inches as in the article. I can reproduce the 40.8 inch dimension (3/4 wave) within a fraction of an inch I'm using L = 246/F*Vf for a quarter wavelength (about 13.5 inches). What am I missing? I'd like to understand where the numbers come from before I start cutting aluminum and coax Steve, KE4MOB Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Xtals,(I know its a long shot)
I know that this is a real long shot, but I have seen others post the question... I am looking for crystals either in the elements or not for the following: For MASTRII/EXEC/MVP RX 144.69 TX 145.29 For MASTRII/EXEC/MVP Rx 448.8 tx 443.8 For MICOR repeater RX 448.8 tx 443.8 For the old Wilson 1405 HT, tx rx 144.39 Just figured I would check before I order them from International... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: 4-bay dipole array harness lengths
Nope...I dug up my copy of FM and Repeaters for the Radio Amateur (from where this plan came from)...it says Lengths E and F are each 63.8 inches long from center of T to center of T. The only thing I can imagine was that maybe someone was dyslexic and it's supposed to be 68.3 rather than 63.8...that would put it close to 145 Mhz... Steve, KE4MOB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Paul Guello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, If you use .66 for the velocity factor of RG-11 and 147 MHz then it comes out to 66.25 which is within 2.5 of the text. I've found that on these harnesses, the length is so critical that the connectors must also be included in the total. I'd bet that this accounts for the difference in the calculation. The length shown in the article assumes the additional length of the connectors. Paul, KB9WLC --- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking about building this: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/exposeddipole.html However, I'm having trouble reproducing the calculation that yields a 63.8 inch coax length. I'm assuming the velocity factor is .67 and keep getting 68 inches for a 5/4 wave...off from 63.8 inches as in the article. I can reproduce the 40.8 inch dimension (3/4 wave) within a fraction of an inch I'm using L = 246/F*Vf for a quarter wavelength (about 13.5 inches). What am I missing? I'd like to understand where the numbers come from before I start cutting aluminum and coax Steve, KE4MOB Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: 4-bay dipole array harness lengths
No, authored by the ARRL HQ staff. Copyright 1972cost a whopping $3.00 back then... Steve, KE4MOB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that the book written by Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF and Mike Morris, WA6ILQ? Neil - WA6KLA Steve wrote: Nope...I dug up my copy of FM and Repeaters for the Radio Amateur (from where this plan came from)...it says Lengths E and F are each 63.8 inches long from center of T to center of T. The only thing I can imagine was that maybe someone was dyslexic and it's supposed to be 68.3 rather than 63.8...that would put it close to 145 Mhz... Steve, KE4MOB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Paul Guello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, If you use .66 for the velocity factor of RG-11 and 147 MHz then it comes out to 66.25 which is within 2.5 of the text. I've found that on these harnesses, the length is so critical that the connectors must also be included in the total. I'd bet that this accounts for the difference in the calculation. The length shown in the article assumes the additional length of the connectors. Paul, KB9WLC --- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking about building this: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/exposeddipole.html However, I'm having trouble reproducing the calculation that yields a 63.8 inch coax length. I'm assuming the velocity factor is .67 and keep getting 68 inches for a 5/4 wave...off from 63.8 inches as in the article. I can reproduce the 40.8 inch dimension (3/4 wave) within a fraction of an inch I'm using L = 246/F*Vf for a quarter wavelength (about 13.5 inches). What am I missing? I'd like to understand where the numbers come from before I start cutting aluminum and coax Steve, KE4MOB Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Anybody have opinions on LDG voter?
Anybody have experiences with the RVS-8 by LDG? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Maratracs FS
I have three High Band Maratrac's with the A7 heads for sale if anyone is interested. Steve. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: Spam:Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off topic - HT repair
I've got a barely used one for sale for $100.00. Great radio, rugged and reliable. Only selling because I bought a W-32 dual bander. Steve Pollock -Original Message- From: Mark Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Spam:Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off topic - HT repair I dumped an old Ht and went and bought a Vertex V-150 200 Ch. and lots of features. the technology is far more better now, and I also know lots of people buying that model. Something 2 think about. MH - Original Message - From: Mike WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off topic - HT repair At 06:17 PM 10/12/04, you wrote: Time to ask the guys who know... My old faithful Icom IC-4AT is experiencing intermittent TX. Sometimes the TX just cuts out, sometimes there's lots of crackling on the transmitted signal. This is an old HT - the one with thumbwheel frequency select. Looks like Icom wants $75/hr. repair rate. I can't believe the thing is worth $75. Can anyone suggest something more economical or is it time to say goodbye to my old and trusted friend? I just don't have the time, patience and eyesight to tackle an HT repair. Reply directly, please [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chuck WB2EDV Find someone with good eyes or one of those clamp-on-the-desk work lights that has a 4 diameter magnifying glasses that is mounted inside a circular florescent tube. Then closely inspect the connection between the center pin of the BNC and the PC board. I'll bet you that it's broken and making intermittent contact. Get in there with a fine soldering tip and remove the broken jumper wire and excess solder then make up a jumper using tiny braid - I use the really fine solder-wick. I put a blob of solder in the BNC pin and on the PC board and then QUICKLY tap the braid into each blob. The intent is to have the solder-wick braid be a flexible connection allowing the BNC center pin to move a little as you insert and remove the antenna. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: Spam:Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rugged 2-meter beam
Rugged 2 meter beam: think Rolcon, that would be my choice. Steve N3TEJ -Original Message- From: Mark Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Spam:Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rugged 2-meter beam Commercial stuff ? Try http://www.andrew.com they merged, squashed into or what U call it Antenna Specilists, also check about a copy of Hutton Engineers catalouge I also know there is another 2 way major Catalouge Tessco if you have a copy of Mission Critical ( Freebie if you know how to get a copy ) . works 4 me. MH - Original Message - From: Kevin Berlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 8:11 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Rugged 2-meter beam We are looking for a rugged 2-meter beam suitable for installation at the 300 foot level on a 500 foot broadcast tower. This will be uswed to link a 440MHz sytem to one on 2-meters about 80 miles away. Looking for suggestions for something more stout than the standard Cushcraft/Maxrad offerings. Any and all suggestions welocme. Thanks and 73, Kevin, K9HX Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: Spam:[Repeater-Builder] Re: Rugged 2-meter beam
Rolcon is a contractor for the US Navy for aircraft carriers and other craft. They build a stupendous product with the highest non-corrosive standards and workmanship. Each antenna is tested, serial numbered, and comes supplied with it's own spec curve for frequency and SWR. They are not much more expensive than the typical ham junk. N3TEJ -Original Message- From: ki5fw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:00 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Spam:[Repeater-Builder] Re: Rugged 2-meter beam Kevin, I'm no antenna expert but there is a antenna in the new AES catalog on page 109. Built by ANTENEX. I've seen the uhf version. Looks pretty stout. Not familiar with the performance. The other guys will let you know about that I'm sure. $120.00 price tag- 3 element 136- 150mhz. Dennis ki5fw --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Berlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking for a rugged 2-meter beam suitable for installation at the 300 foot level on a 500 foot broadcast tower. This will be uswed to link a 440MHz sytem to one on 2-meters about 80 miles away. Looking for suggestions for something more stout than the standard Cushcraft/Maxrad offerings. Any and all suggestions welocme. Thanks and 73, Kevin, K9HX Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Versatone
Any tone @ $10 each. Steve. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] HB ICOM's
@ $10 each. Commercial freqs. Steve. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] 6M Delta-S w/S990
Currently set in the 52MHz area w/16 channels. 100+ watts. Strong Radio. Excellemt condition. All accessories + some. Best offer. Steve. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: Spam:[Repeater-Builder] Re: Diamond X500
Coy, X-500's are awesome, I have one on my repeater as a receive antenna and an X-50 as transmit (no duplexer, yea!) X-50's and 500's are frequently used as repeater antennas. I have a friend, K4HAT, who uses a bunch of them on a linked system on the Outer Banks of North Carolina where conditions are some of the harshest imaginable. Good luck, Steve N3TEJ -Original Message- From: Coy Hilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 10:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Spam:[Repeater-Builder] Re: Diamond X500 THANKS TO EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU WHO RESPONDED !! I know that the commertial antennas are better. But I was told by a local that this was one of the best antennas that I could use, and the money has been spent and the antenna is at the site, and must be used. Some of your suggestions and comments are still great and the ones that suggest ways of fixing the problem are being concidered. THANKS AGAIN! Further advice will be concidered and appreciated! Coy...AC0Y Owner and Echolink sysop 145.110 WDW area repeater --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone know anything about keeping water out of a Diamond X500 antenna for a repeater use, Or any other suggestions, Short of heaving it off the side of the building. 73 AC0Y Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: Spam:[Repeater-Builder] Re: Diamond X500 (off topic)
Oh yes, only spin balance. Otherwise you will get a nasty oscillation at higher frequencies. Steve N3TEJ -Original Message- From: Coy Hilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 10:51 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Spam:[Repeater-Builder] Re: Diamond X500 I would only concider spin balancing it ! AND IT's already hard to hear! --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Rich Misener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever you do, DO NOT static balance it on a bubble balancer. Once the static and bubbles get trapped in the water, they are tough to get out. Makes it hard to hear and you sound like a digital cell phone. Dick---N7ZH They pressurize tires, don't they? (Let me know if you spin balance it.. hi hi!) Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: Spam:[Repeater-Builder] Wanted : Decibel Products DB224e
I have one, has a new harness, but one broken loop. Steve N3TEJ I do not know what the "e" is in 224e, so I guess I should say, I *think* I have one. -Original Message-From: ke4eue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 6:24 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Spam:[Repeater-Builder] Wanted : Decibel Products DB224eHello everyone Thought I would ask out here for all you guys with a closet full of parts and pieces I would like to find a Decibel Products DB224e antenna for a project I am working on If anyone has one they would like to part with or would like to drop a web site with a good price Please drop me a line !Thanks Joe LandersKE4EUE / WPXG560Node 4860 located in Chesterfield Co. Va.Owner Chesterfield RACES Mobile Services Owner 145.390 - KE4EUE RepeaterWeb : www.ke4eue.orgEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Assistant Emergency Radio Officer Chesterfield RACESCommunications Coordinator for Virginia Special Olympics Advanced Skywarn Spotter VCFD0022 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] ICOM's HB
High Band List: 2C RX 10ea 161.385 2C TX5ea 160.725 5C RX1ea 151.280 154.190 154.905 5C TX(large) 152.007 EC RX 141.000 2ea 154.770 154.205 154.280 162.750 163.360 EC TX(large) 151.280 154.770 154.905 154.935 155.205 155.235 155.685 155.820 159.420 Steve. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] 800mhZ 5-CH Combiner w/wattmeter
Telewave 95% new - $500.00 OBO Steve. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] RCD1SH
GE RCD1SH DC Remote. Excellent condition. Rare. For sale @ $130.00 Steve. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] SyntorX Base FS
Trunked SyntorX Base L35VBB5174AM CC5031 RC0246 TUF1071AS (installed unit) Working when pulled from service W/ Desk Mic Off-Post if interested. Pics. Offer and it's yours. Also: Mostars D35 D45 Radius D44 Maxtrac D37 Micor T54 Motrac T64 Maratrac T73 Mitrek T83 Steve. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Specialty controls SC-1 controller
Anybody have DOCS or experience with a repeater controller from Specialty Controls, model SC-1. Rumor is its about 10 yrs old, maybe made in Nevada. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Radios etc.
I've started listings on Ebay, for those that are interested. By osmosis, their system works for me also. Requests? I'll list it. Steve. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Need info TPL PA6-1-BE Rpt UHF
I have a rack mount (very heavy) TPL amp that I need info about. I would like to use it on a HAM repeater. Looks like a well built unit, internal PS, fans, large heat sink. Questions are: What is the drive level? What is the output level? What are the rear panel connections (V+,+sense,V-,-sense,and remote) Are there any connections to the above to make it function. And, lastly, if anyone has manual that they would like to sell or copy? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] So Cal Site Space ?
Hi All, Would anyone have a contact to rent site/cabinet space in a site that allows ham radio systems? I would be looking for a cabinet space on Heaps, Box Springs, Sunset Ridge, Sierra Pk., or possibly Santiago. Thanks, Steve Barden/WA6OXN Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Micor problem
Hello We have installed a Micor mobile repeater . This is what is happening...When first turned on our Identifier is transmitted out over the air with no problemWhen someone tries to use the repeater it goes into transmit but the audio doesn't get sent with the carrier. We can hear the recieving signal on the speaker in the shack but it is weak. We have tried 3 different radios and 2 different controllers with the same problem To sum up the problem 1. Transmits Voice Identifier with no problem 2. When reciever gets signal transmitter goes into transmit but no audio out the transmit side. 3. Recieve audio is hearable but weak on shack speaker Any help would be appriceated Thanks in Advance VE6IVN ncaarc.ca Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] SSB Remote Base
Hey Ken, Can you direct me to the schematic for the squelch circut? Regards, -Steve - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] SSB Remote Base At 05:10 AM 5/23/2005 -, you wrote: I was looking at using a MFJ-9406 6 Meter SSB radio for a 6 meter remote base at my reapeater site. Any Ideas on how to get a COS/COR signal out. I thought about using a CAT Tech SQ-1000 Squelch board but didn't know how it would handle the pulsing nature of SSB. Has anyone tried this or something similar ?? ---Most HF squelchs simply suck! A few years back, I built a syllabic squelch to generate a fairly reliable COS signal on an HF circuit. It actually works surprisingly well! You might want to have a look (no, I have no pc boards for it - never had any made but it's not a big deal to perfboard the thing either! :-) http://www.ah6le.net/hf_squelch.html Ken (I survived Dayton!) -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Come see us at Dayton 2005! We'll be In the Repeater Builder Tent in spaces 707-710 in the Flea Market area! We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] New UK Member
Hi thanks for rthe info. Yes it is getting hold of gear in the UK, and of course postage frm the USA. I will be running the Rangr tx at only 20w with a time out of about 5 mins, so the PA should be OK. Have you any ideas about getting a service manual as I will need to know were rx audio comes out etc 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New UK Member Welcome to the list! A CAT-200 is a decent controller,but those Rangers are not a good choice for a repeater. You would be better off with something like a MastrII or Micor,crystal controlled and built for harsh duty with tight front ends. The Ranger's power amp is not rated for anything near repeater duty and will overheat. I prefer the MastrII base stations,100%duty cycle and pretty much bullet-proof,my vhf has been in continuous use for 27 years and still has the origional output transistors in it. Come to think of it,the whole thing is origional except for the upgrade to a PLL exciter. The audio is outstanding! I also use a MastrII base on my 440 repeater and some mobiles for links and remote bases,so I am biased. 73,Lee,N3APP,Erie,PA,USA Steve Bainbridge wrote: Hi Iam a UK radio amateur, M1SWB. I have been authorised to build a 6mtr reapeater. I will be using 2 ex NYPD GE Rangr,s on 50Mhz, type P19C852051P8. I need a service manual for this set. As for the logic what do members think of the CAT200B 73 Steve Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.4.0 - Release Date: 01/06/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] help, wanted
Hi again surely someone in the group either has or knows were I can obtain a service manual fr the low band GE Rangr. I intend to use 2 of them as a 6mtr repeater here in the UK but I need to know werd to connect the various connections of my logic board, ie, rx audio out, tx audio in etc. 73 Steve M1SWB Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] help, wanted
Hi yes I found the link, but it is a phone number to ring in the States, I don't think so from the UK :-) Anyone got an email for Ted Jansen ?, the guy who does the GE Manuals. I expect the sets this week and no way am I just going to dive in without knowing what does what, I fix too many sets were people have done that. Many thanks for the suggestion. 73 Steve - Original Message - From: ian.ashford To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] help, wanted Steve, have you tried this : http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/gemanuals.html (From the repeater builder website) Ian G8PWE - Original Message - From: steve To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:43 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] help, wanted Hi again surely someone in the group either has or knows were I can obtain a service manual fr the low band GE Rangr. I intend to use 2 of them as a 6mtr repeater here in the UK but I need to know werd to connect the various connections of my logic board, ie, rx audio out, tx audio in etc. 73 Steve M1SWB No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.1 - Release Date: 03/06/05 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: help, wanted
Hi thanks, I take it this was re my plea for a GE rangr manual Had a look on qrz, no email address. Getting nowere fast with this 73 Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 6:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: help, wanted Try John VE3 AMZ., see QRZ.COM., he lives in the Kitchner Ontario area Jerry VE3 EXT Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.1 - Release Date: 03/06/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: help, wanted
Hi John I will answer. I think it was regarding my plea for a service manual for a GE Ranger low band P19C852051P8. Iam in the UK Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: John J. Riddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: help, wanted Hi Jerry,what was the question...? John. VE3AMZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 1:05 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: help, wanted Try John VE3 AMZ., see QRZ.COM., he lives in the Kitchner Ontario area Jerry VE3 EXT Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.1 - Release Date: 03/06/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] coax notch
Hi is there a fr,ee computer prog to work ot the lenghts of coax to make notch filters ?. Iam starting to put together a 6mtr repeater here in the UK, and need to play with coax to make a duplexer, can't afford the prices of a ready made one. I don't fancy using heliax, OK it works, but looks a mess and takes up so much space. So any ideas appreciated. 73 Steve Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] GE Rangr
Hi is there a Yahoo group for the GE Rangr series ?. Thanks Steve Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax notch
Hi Thanks for info. Yes I appreciate what you say. I have used coax as filters on VHF PMR ie 160Mhz and they worked fine. Will give it a go 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 8:58 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: coax notch It's easy, a ELECTRICAL quarter wave length open stub or Half wave shorted stub will give you a DEEP notch on the order of 25 to 32 db. The electrical length is the mechanical length multiplied by the prop factor. It's easiest done by cutting a bit long and pruning to length using test gear to get the notch where you want it. Good luck! 73 AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi is there a fr,ee computer prog to work ot the lenghts of coax to make notch filters ?. Iam starting to put together a 6mtr repeater here in the UK, and need to play with coax to make a duplexer, can't afford the prices of a ready made one. I don't fancy using heliax, OK it works, but looks a mess and takes up so much space. So any ideas appreciated. 73 Steve Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.8 - Release Date: 11/06/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater antenna??
Hi how about a colinear dipole with a bit of gain ?. Iam setting up a 6mtr rptr here in Liverpool UK and will use a colinear. Having done some tests using this ant on an Icom 706, it seems to work well. 73 Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater antenna?? The GAMMA MATCH is somewhat narrow banded and if there is any weather conditions involved such as ICE, the antenna will detune quite quickly thus rendering the antenna to be useless till the ice thaws from the matching device. I would look at something else!! 73's Gary - W5GNB --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, fraser3914 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been offered a Gamma matched antenna for our 2 metre repeater what are the pro's and con's of using a single Gamma match,,this is a 3 element beam at about 45ft.. rgds Fraser Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.7/20 - Release Date: 16/06/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Controler
Hi can any one recommend a repeater controller board, we call them logic boards in the UK. It needs to send the repeaters callsign in CW every so many minutes, it needs a tx hang up delay, it needs ctcss on the rx path. Not interested in any voice messages as they arn't used in the UK. Any comments on the CAT200B which is around the price I want to pay. 73 Steve M1SWB Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controler
Hi many thanks will look at what you say. 73 Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Controler Look at the NHRC line of controllers,excellent quality at a good price. Most ctcss work is done external to the controller,look at the Com Spec TS-64 or similar. I find the CAT's to be overpriced and hard to program. steve wrote: Hi can any one recommend a repeater controller board, we call them logic boards in the UK. It needs to send the repeaters callsign in CW every so many minutes, it needs a tx hang up delay, it needs ctcss on the rx path. Not interested in any voice messages as they arn't used in the UK. Any comments on the CAT200B which is around the price I want to pay. 73 Steve M1SWB *Yahoo! Groups Links* * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] USA Repeaters
Hi Living in the UK our repeaters are very closley monitored. What are the rules in the US for repeaters, do the FCC tell you what you can have. 73 Steve M1SWB Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] USA Repeaters
Thanks Chris sounds like the US hams, unless they do silly things, look after all the repeater stuff, so, correct me if Iam wrong, if a ham wants to setup a repeater can he jst go ahead and do it. What sort of TX power restrictions are there, here it is very unusual for a repeater to run more than 25w 73 Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] USA Repeaters The FCC sets very general rules. There are voluntary frequency coordination bodies in different areas that help keep things in order. The FCC does very little enforcement anymore due to budget/policy issues. For the most part (In my area) the hams keep things pretty much In good order operational wise. I guess there are some areas of the country where things are out of hand but the primary responsibility is on the repeater owner/trustee who's callsign is on the system. The FCC does not issure repeater licenses anymore, they are under the callsign or the owner or trustee. Chris N9LLO 53.39Repeater 444.025 Repeater 927.4875 Repeater No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 20/06/05 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] USA Repeaters
many thanks no Iam genuinly interested in the way the systems work in other countries. I agree that the system we have here in the UK works fine, a bit slow as you have to apply for a rptr addition to your licence, my rptr, as yet not on air, is GB3LP. Many thanks for the explanation 73 Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:51 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] USA Repeaters Steve, We try to work with our coordinating bodies, but if that coordinating body is unresponsive, the repeater goes on the air and the interference issues are worked out using the FCC rule that the uncoordinated repeater has the primary reponsibility for resolving the interference. One might have to change frequencies several times to resolve interference issues. Coordination bodies in the US are self-appointed and in areas such as Southern California some are closed membership organizations which only care about the interests of the existing coordinated repeaters. I believe the RGSB coordination method might be superior as all amatuers are represented, and there can't be closed or private repeaters. Your method was probably bourne out of necessity since you don't have bands as big as ours on 2M and 70cm. It is not my intention to get into a flame war over repeater coordination as that is not what this list is meant for. Steve Rodgers WA6ZFT From: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/20 Mon PM 07:02:18 EDT To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] USA Repeaters Thanks Chris sounds like the US hams, unless they do silly things, look after all the repeater stuff, so, correct me if Iam wrong, if a ham wants to setup a repeater can he jst go ahead and do it. What sort of TX power restrictions are there, here it is very unusual for a repeater to run more than 25w 73 Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] USA Repeaters The FCC sets very general rules. There are voluntary frequency coordination bodies in different areas that help keep things in order. The FCC does very little enforcement anymore due to budget/policy issues. For the most part (In my area) the hams keep things pretty much In good order operational wise. I guess there are some areas of the country where things are out of hand but the primary responsibility is on the repeater owner/trustee who's callsign is on the system. The FCC does not issure repeater licenses anymore, they are under the callsign or the owner or trustee. Chris N9LLO 53.39Repeater 444.025 Repeater 927.4875 Repeater -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 20/06/05 Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 20/06/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] 6Mtr duplexer
Hi great day here in Liverpool UK temp 82 deg F. Can anyone let me have the email address for anyone who makes heliax duplexers for sale, and will send to the UK. Comments please on the NHRC 3+ controller. 73 Steve M1SWB Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] is this a decensed?
Hi it maybe desense, can you check the ammount of RF from your tx getting into the rx ant. You may need to notch out the tx freq. 73 Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: l2_ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:39 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] is this a decensed? i have a problem in my repeater sometimes the reception are good but sometimes it was poor inside the building i can trigger loud and clear but there are time i cant! i used two different antenna both bc35 diamond! transmit was good but in received section it was poor! i disconnect the received radio and i measure 0.21uv so it was ok! i used gr500 motorola repeater! can anyone in the group would suggest me what will i do to optimize my repeater? Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.7/34 - Release Date: 29/06/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna
Hi have you considered maybe a tri band ant, ie 2,70cm and 6mtrs. Gain on 6mtrs is about 3dB. Here in the UK I use a Moonraker tri band, works fine 73 Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: Walter Wenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:59 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna Does anyone have a suggestion for a good 6m repeater antenna from some one that is still able to supply one? All I can seem to find is unity gain antennae. Looking to put a 6M repeater back on the air as soon as we can get antennae for a split site. We will be running RCA radios. Walter, KA2RGI Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 06/07/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna
Hi well 3dB is double the power 6dB is 4 times etc, etc So in theory 20w into ant = 40w ERP Yes I know 50Mhz folded dipoles are big. I was toying with making one, but never did 73 Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: Matt Beasant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna Beware, all the antenna adverts I see in the UK mags quote dBi !!! 3dBi gain over a dipole is not worth mentioning! When you consider that the folded dipoles I have on my repeater are almost 8 feet long, compare that with your tribander - you aint gonna get any gain without the extra length IMHO. Matt - Original Message - From: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna Hi have you considered maybe a tri band ant, ie 2,70cm and 6mtrs. Gain on 6mtrs is about 3dB. Here in the UK I use a Moonraker tri band, works fine 73 Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: Walter Wenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:59 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6 M Gain Antenna Does anyone have a suggestion for a good 6m repeater antenna from some one that is still able to supply one? All I can seem to find is unity gain antennae. Looking to put a 6M repeater back on the air as soon as we can get antennae for a split site. We will be running RCA radios. Walter, KA2RGI Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 06/07/05 Yahoo! Groups Links ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 06/07/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Duplexer
Hi I have asked this before, does anyone in the group know of anyone who makes 6mtr heliax duplexers and can send to the UK.I have been let down a few times here in the UK. 73 Steve M1SWB YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer
Hi Ron yes have looked at the heliax duplexers. The split here is only 500Kc, so it maybe a problem. Not having any decent test gear, ie, spectrum analyser etc I may find it a problem. I have looked at a commercial duplexer, but at 1200 UKP( about $2000), it is a definate no :-). If the worst comes to the worst I may use 2 ants, hope I can get enough space between them. 73 Steve - Original Message - From: n9eerptr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:06 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer Steve, You might have this info. On the board here are plans for heliax duplexers for 6. However, think you need 1 MHz or greater split. I've never built one, but think I might give it a try. The cans are very expensive or hard to find used. I've heard stories where groups were given cans, but had to be in right place at the right time. Here in USA low band has little activity, but you probably know all about this, hi. Might look around on the board. 73, ron, n9ee/r --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have asked this before, does anyone in the group know of anyone who makes 6mtr heliax duplexers and can send to the UK.I have been let down a few times here in the UK. 73 Steve M1SWB Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.10/43 - Release Date: 06/07/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Looking for Motorola Radius R100 Service Manual
Does some one have a manual that I might use? Here is the idea that I have. I would Scan it into a Adobe .pdf doucument and return along with a CD of scans. Maybe this is too big of an undertaking? I have never seen a manual. Maybe this is something that I shouldn't do. Don't know. But I have purchaced a R100 and need to set it up on Ham Bands (first attempt at this sort of thing). Any Help? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Still after
Hi Iam still after a 6mtr heliax duplexer. Iam in Liverpool UK So if any can or knows somebody who could make one, please email me direct. I have been told that the heliax ones can be troublesome but I cant afford 1200 UKP for a commercialy made one. 73 Steve M1SWB YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
Hi Kevin please tell me more. Diagrams etc 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Kevin King To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 2:45 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Still after Try a set of coffee can duplexers. 20 bucks of plumbing hardware and bingo Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of SteveSent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:40 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Still after Hi Iam still after a 6mtr heliax duplexer. Iam in Liverpool UK So if any can or knows somebody who could make one, please email me direct. I have been told that the heliax ones can be troublesome but I cant afford 1200 UKP for a commercialy made one. 73 Steve M1SWB No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.2/55 - Release Date: 21/07/05 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a copcar' due to ham antennas
Mike what is the link again to the pic of the car 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Mike Pugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a copcar' due to ham antennas But does it pass the common sense test? I agree, it is legal and within our rights to possess the thing, but knowing that possession alone could possibly get you into trouble, and knowing that you had no need to own it besides to play with it, why mount it on your car, except to play cop? It just seems to me that the benefits did not weigh out well against the trouble he got in. It's legal (with the proper permits) to carry a handgun into a crowded mall. But if you start taking it out and pointing it at people, even if it is unloaded, your actions will be perceived by others as dangerous, and the authorities will likely arrest you. It's not what you posses that matters, it's what you do with your possessions that do... Mike Fred Fitte wrote: For the same reason one might stand in a Park and give a speech that nobody cares about. It is legal. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas But it also tends to get one arrested.. So, unless you're a cop, or are not wishing to invite trouble, why have one? Mike Fred Fitte wrote: Having a radar unit is perfectly legal. Fred -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT: NC man charged with 'driving a cop car' due to ham antennas Well I went to the website posted and saw a picture of jerry's car. I would like jerry to explain why he has a Traffic Radar gun sitting on his dash, (zoom in on the dash) I think that might have been a factor in his getting arrested. Being a Ham and also a police officer I see allot of hams that are stepping over the line, from light bars to sirens, in all honesty I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Eric Moeller Kc5Fog Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.2/55 - Release Date: 21/07/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
Hi Jeff to get back to my origional question, how would you use the tins to make a 6mtr duplexer, considering commercial ones are over 5ft long 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Jeff Condit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after Standard coffee cans solder together pretty easily because of the tin plating they usually used, provided you have a soldering iron with a good sized copper tip. A few of them started being plastic coated and these didn't solder well at all. Jeff Condit - Original Message - From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:03 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Still after On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Kevin King wrote: Try a set of coffee can duplexers. 20 bucks of plumbing hardware and bingo Can you still buy coffee in cans? How do you weld those suckers together? -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.3/56 - Release Date: 22/07/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
Hi Kris at those prices yes $1000 for a 6mtr is fair, in UK money that is about £650... I know a chap in the UK who origionaly used heliax for a 6mtr duplexer, and due various things happening it was forever going off tune. In the end the repeater group saved up and bought a commercial Procom duplexer, and problems solved, no more rx desense 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Dave VanHorn wrote: Copper pipe is probably workable, though expensive. onlinemetals.com -- 1' brass pipe, 6 diameter... $303! I'm starting to think that copper sheet rolled into a cylinder would be a better idea. a 7 diameter duplexer is 22 in circumference. a 24 x 48 piece of copper sheet would yield 7 duplexers at 440 MHz. At 18 GA, the width of the material is 0.048. At 1MHz, the skin depth is 0.0026 in, and decreases with frequency. 0.0135 is the smallest size that onlinemetals.com stocks (which is 28 GA) and costs $71.15 in a 36 x 48 sheet. Suddenly that $1K price tag on the used 6m duplexer doesn't look so bad. -- Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU! This message brought to you by the US Department of Homeland Security Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.3/56 - Release Date: 22/07/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Data sheet for a DB Products DB4087
Can anyone help me out with a Data Sheet for a DB4087? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6 mtr Duplexer
Hi many thanks, I have looked at this site and as you say very interesting. I will see if I can find any Heliax and maybe have a try. 73 Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: Tony lelieveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 4:00 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6 mtr Duplexer Steve Here is a link to a very interesting Heliax build 6 meter duplexer. There is a lot of information and good reading on the subject. http://www.dallas.net/%7Ejvpoll/dup6m/dup6m.html 73, Tony VE3DWI Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.3/56 - Release Date: 22/07/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after
Many thanks sounds fun :-) Steve - Original Message - From: Kevin King To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 8:51 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Still after First get a stove pipe crimping tool, and a stack of big coffee cans.cut the rim off one end and use the crimpier to prep the edge cut the bottom out of the next can and rim as above. stick the crimped edge into the bottom of the next can, check for fit. do this till you have a stack taller than 54". Make four of them. wire wheel the joint to prep it for soldering. Assemble the stack of cans, use three pop rivets around each seam to hold it till soldered. Then get your propane torch and plumbing solder, sweat the joints. Oh yes, in the third can from the bottom, mount a disk of plexi-glass with a 9/16th hole in the middle. This will steady the tuning rod later. To make the top of the can use 3/8ths or 1/4 inch aluminum plate. Fit it flush with the top of the can. drill and tap or use self taping 8-32 screws to hold the top around the top. Now that you have this complete let's get some plumbing done. Get 2 each 8ft sections of 1/2 and 3/4 copper pipe. 4 1/2 copper pipe caps 4 4ft sections of 5/16ths all thread rod with a bag of nuts to fit., 4 3/4 pipe to 3/4 treaded copper fitting. four 3/4 threaded pipe caps. By now you should be getting a picture of this. cut the pipe in half so you have 4ft sections. take one end of the 3/4 pipe and cut small long triangles around the end. you with squeeze this to make it like fingers down to the 1/2 size pipe to slide through. take a 1/2 pipe cap and drill it to let the all thread through. take two nuts and secure the all thread to the cap. solder this to the end of the 1/2 pipe. now solder the threaded fitting to the top of the 3/4 pipe that you made the fingers on the opposite end. Feed the 1/2 pipe with all thread into the top of the 3/4 pipe. gently push it through the fingers you made. Test this for good even firm contact. I used so no ox here just before I did the finial tune. Take your top plate and drill a hole to accept the threaded top of the pipe. Drill and tap the 3/4 pipe cape in the center top to take the all thread. put this on and secure to the top using spacers as needed to secure the top to the pipe securely. Get some nice knobs at a swap meet and you now have a basic cavity. There are many ways to make the pickups. I made my cans pass/notch and used a so239 panel mount tuning caps out of the finals of a RCA car phone. and the loops were made from left over 1/2 pipe. I flattened it and sanded the sides to separate it into two flat peaces. We made the loops 2 3/4 inches long or 5 and 3/4 memory fades. try it and see what works it is cheep to try. We had to tack some silver mica caps across the tuning cap to get the notch where we needed it. I have a set of these on the 52.6 -500 repeater in Bakersfield California. it is a 100 watt micor base running at 75 watts with a pre-amp. It has been in service for about 16 years. This is not meant to be complete instructions to build a duplexer. It is just meant to get you a usable platform to experiment with. with good construction skills and test equipment it is very easy to make 6 meter duplexers. You can take this basic setup and replace components and materials based on your skills and availability. Lowband is a fun world to play in. Don't let folks tell you you can't do it or it wont work. IT will, it does and you can. Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OVD GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of SteveSent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:33 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still after Hi Kevin please tell me more. Diagrams etc 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Kevin King To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 2:45 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Still after Try a set of coffee can duplexers. 20 bucks of plumbing hardware and bingo Kevin King SCSA BSCIS ARS KC6OV GMRS KAG0378 EIEIO 2722 Acworth Georgia -Original Message-From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of SteveSent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:40 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Still after Hi Iam still after a 6mtr heliax duplexer. Iam in Liverpool UK So if any can or knows somebody who could
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MOTOROLA MICOR receiver VHF
Hi have you measured the DC volts on load. It maybe the regulator in the psu has gone. As our friend says look at the DC output with a scope and see if it is clean and not have loads of AC . 73 Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: David VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:01 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MOTOROLA MICOR receiver VHF -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ANTHONY Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:58 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MOTOROLA MICOR receiver VHF I AM BACK AGAIN, WITH THE SQUEALING REAPEATER PROBLEM.JUST BY CHANCE , I HAPPEN TO NOTICE THE AMP METER ON THE POWER SUPPLY WAS DECREASING IN AMPS FROM WHAT IT WAS PULLING, IT WAS DROPPING BACK TO 5--AMPS OR LESS, AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IT IS DROPPING BACK IN OUTPUT POWER WHEN IT IS SQUEALING,WE HAVE IT SET FOR 50--WATTS, AND NOW IT HAD DROPPED BACK TO 40-WATTS, BUT NO SWR ON THE ANTENNA.AND PUT A DUMMY LOAD ON THE TRANSMIT SIDE OF MICOR, AND IT IS STILL DOING IT.ANY IDEAS ON THIS PROBLEM AND HOW TO SOLVE IT? Have you tried a large capacitor, on the DC input? Maybe 10,000uF or better, low impedance type. (low esr) If I was there, I'd hang a scope on your DC supply line, but I can't do that remotely :) Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 28/07/05 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Need manuals for WR model 90
I have a nice working(mostly) pair of VHF and UHF rack mount model 90 WR radios, that were set up as a UHF controlled, VHF remote base. I need to find a set of manuals. I know that WR is old and was sometimes flakey, but we have need to link a VHF repeater at a solar site, and these are the early WR that looks an awful lot like the Daniels. Draw low current. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Decibel DB4032 6 meter duplexer
Hi all, I wonder if anyone has experience with this duplexer. It is specified to tune up to 50 MHz, but my repeater is on 52.230RX /53.930TX. THE question: will this duplexer tune up that high? Thanks, Steve, kb7rgt Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel DB4032 6 meter duplexer
Thank you Chris. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent the mods for this to Kevin some time ago, they are on the Repeater-Builder site here http://www.repeater-builder.com/db/db-4032-conversion.gif I use one and it works fine. Chris N9LLO Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Q: TE systems amps info needed
Well we just installed a 1412RRN on our system this weekend and it seems like a nice unit. Yes there isn't much info out there on the web about TE Systems. So I did want to post a link to the opperating and service manual that I scanned in.. For HIGH-POWER 144-148MHz AMPLIFIER: MODEL 1412, MODEL 1412G, MODEL 1412R (It's about 8 Mb) http://24.208.20.120/web/TE_Systems-VHF_Manual.pdf --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tom Swisher WA8PYR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All; I'm getting ready to do a repeater rebuild, in which I'll be installing a TE Systems 1452RH power amp driven by a 1405S amp (driven in turn by a GE MastrII exciter). Problem is, the club doesn't have the tech docs and I really don't want to just jump in blindly and start tweaking things to get the desired power output (I'm told the 1452RH is rated at 400 watts, and we'll only be running it at 100-150 watts max). If anyone has info on the amps, please let me know!! Thanks, Tom WA8PYR Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Q: TE systems amps info needed
Well I didn't scan in the 220 page. But here is what is says for the 2210RA.. Continuous duty, rack mount, high power amplifers. Cooling is forced air (dual redunant fans) 222-225 MHz 5-10 Watts in / 130 watts out 5x19x15 $598 These are all about 1 MB a piece: http://24.208.20.120/web/TE-Systems-VHF_Amplifiers.pdf http://24.208.20.120/web/TE-Systems-UHF_Amplifiers.pdf http://24.208.20.120/web/TE-Systems-Price_List.pdf --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, KA9QJG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By any chance dos anyone have the Info on the TE SYSTEMS 2210RA 220 Repeater Amp. Happy Holidays to All Thanks Don KA9QJG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT - funny interference story
A couple of years ago, I was in SF near the Height / Ashbury district and had a Karaoke comming over my 220 radio. I listen for as long as I could stand it and then changed to simplex and transmitted in a deep voice This is the devil, you are bothering me, stop singing (followed by my call of course). All was silent from then on - Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:43 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT - funny interference story [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not very funny when you have to waste hours of time chasing these things down, knocking on doors explaining to total strangers that they have a nuisance generator within their premises. Bob NO6B Try having your 222.6 repeater input frequency on a nation-wide wireless mic frequency. Once again I'm getting Karaoke music into the repeater during open mic night. Sure is now making a frequency agile mic, which has the above frequency as a choice. I have to call the local bar and ask the music guy to pick another frequency. What makes it so bad is that most people can't sing. skipp Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CSC CWID-51B Rev D
They no longer support their CWID stuff or at least it was not accessible on their web site. Not sure if it eprom or dtmf programmed as I did not get any documentation with it. Thanks. - Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 19 January, 2006 12:08 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CSC CWID-51B Rev D If it's the common CSC ID unit, it is a prom based design. I probably have a copy of the circuit diagram. Don't know if CSC is still in business (try a google search for information). You might have to burn your own prom if you have the equipment to do said. skipp kb0jyl1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure this has been asked a thousand times all ready, so please excuse me for doing it again as new memeber of your group. I am looking for programing and wireing information for this cw id'er. It will go on my VHF Engineering 220 repeater if I can make it work. Any help is appreciated. Thank you Steve KB0JYL Topeka Yahoo! Groups Links -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 267.14.10 - Release Date: 02-Jan-06 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 267.14.10 - Release Date: 02-Jan-06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] CSC CWID-51B Rev D
Thanks for the info Eric. Much appreciated. Will give them a call tomorrow. - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 19 January, 2006 19:42 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] CSC CWID-51B Rev D Steve, The CWID series of Morse identifiers uses a plug-in PROM which is available from CSC, programmed with your callsign for about $25. The comprehensive manual for the ID-er is also available from CSC for about the same price. Contact Control Signal Corporation at 800-521-2203 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CSC CWID unit
I got this information back from Control Signal Corporation on their cwid and I thought I would pass it along. We can provide you with a manual and a new PROM for you call sign. The manual is $17 and a new programmed PROM is $28. Shipping is $4.50. We are closed for two weeks, so if you wish to order please do so on Feb. 6 or later. Sorry for the inconvienence. Shep Brodie Sales Manager Hope this helps some other folks. Steve kb0jyl - Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 20 January, 2006 17:19 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CSC CWID unit circuit scans now available This is great news... some of the mfgrs have long since dropped support for prom based ID units. I've also scanned in the circuit diagram with basic pc board layout and sent the pdf to Mike for the RB Web Page. Please contact Mike for a copy. cheers, skipp (still thinking about the Braut Kevin talked about. I can almost taste Dayton already... ) Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, The CWID series of Morse identifiers uses a plug-in PROM which is available from CSC, programmed with your callsign for about $25. The comprehensive manual for the ID-er is also available from CSC for about the same price. Contact Control Signal Corporation at 800-521-2203 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 267.14.10 - Release Date: 02-Jan-06 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 267.14.10 - Release Date: 02-Jan-06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: An interference story
Here are some links to articles that prove usefull when you have interference problems. Our club just resolved a 3rd order mix situation that had been going on for quite some time. As a result we had to dig up some information, so I figured I'd share that. http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/files/tech/Intermodulation_Revisited.pdf http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/files/tech/CATV_Leakage-A_Two_Way_Street.pdf http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/files/tech/Tracing_And-Eliminating_Power_Line_Interference.pdf --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Robert Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just sharing an experience maybe others can use... Been having periodic interference to my two meter repeater off and on (daily) for about five years. Certain times of the day, no problem, and then something would happen and I would get a carrier near the input frequency that was a product of the transmitter (had CTCSS) and it would lock the repeater up. There was no particular pattern and it was hard to be there when it was happening. Since I have multiple receivers, I just kept the local receiver off. It was strong around the site, so I figured someone in the area had a messed up TV amp or something. Well, the other day I was at the repeater site it started up. I took a portable monitoring the input narrowed it down to the generator control panel. Inside the control panel was a small smart trickel charger used to keep the starting battery for the generator charged. That was where the problem was. When it was charging, no interference, but when it was in standby mode - wow - lots of signal. When I unplugged the charger, it went away. So, a couple of ferrite beads on the power cords and the problem was solved. Those of you having problems at sites with back-up power, don't overlook the genset. Robert -- You can only buy so many bags of lime before people begin asking questions... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] NHRC-4 Controller
Hi small problem, I think. I want to use an nhrc-4 controller with 2 Ge Rangr mobiles as a 6mtr rptr. I have connected the controller audio in got primary channel to the rx loudspeaker output, and on the controller tx a/f out I have a small amp, so I can hear the tones. CW id etc. When I tx from another set to try and set a new password on the nhrc the yellow DTMF received led works OK with each dtmf tone sent, but I don't seem to get any CW OK from the tx af or any cw id. There are 5 leds on the nhrc a yell. a green, a red them another green and red. I take it the 1st 3 are for the primary channel ie dtmf received, cas and tx, and the last 2 are cas and tx for secondary channel. I take it the CAS is only needed to key the rptr tx and any setup can be done by jst inputing the tones on the primary channel. Ideas please 73 Steve M1SWB YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler
Hi no, I have not connected the cas. The nhrc needs CAS high so I will try connecting the Rangr RX CAS line pin 12 on the control plug which goes to around 9v when squelch opens 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:17 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler Do you have the CAS hooked up from your receiver on the radio thay you are using for the receiver? If not that would be my guess as to why the controller doesn't know that you are talking to it. 73 and good luck AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steve Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi need a bit of help please. I am trying to setup an NHRC-4 to work with 2 Ge Rangrs as a 6mtr rptr. I have connected the Rangr loudspeaker O/P to the nhrc primary a/f input, and the nhrc primary tx a/f to a small amp, so I can hear the tones, cw id etc. I made JP3 and applied 12v for a few seconds, then removed JP3 and from another radio tx,ed into the rptr rx. I the tx,ed again and sent dtmf 1234 to set the password, but I never got the CW OK signal. On the nhrc there are 5 led,s a yellow, green and red, then another green and red. I take it the yellow is dtmf received this is lit when I send dtmf tones. The green is CAS and red is TX primary channel. The 2nd green and red are CAS and TX secondary channel. I take it the CAS is only needed to make the nhrc key the rptr tx and is not needed to program the controller. So any ideas as to why I can't hear the tones, id,s etc 73 Steve M1SWB Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler
Thanks Jeff I did think this but as the CAS is required to key the TX thought I would connect it. Works fine I put a signal into the rx from my signal generator, green led and red led come on and the tx is keyed, after the timeout the tx unkeys. Am I correct in assuming that I should hear the cw OK and id tones on the A/F output to the tx, and that the tx should key I don't hear any tones 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler Actually, the NHRC-4 will receive and process DTMF tones without any valid CAS input transitions. It is designed that way, so it can be commanded even if there is a stuck mike or the CAS won't transition for some other reason. The CAS transition just makes the DTMF processing happen a bit faster. Jeff At 07:22 AM 2/19/2006, you wrote: Hi no, I have not connected the cas. The nhrc needs CAS high so I will try connecting the Rangr RX CAS line pin 12 on the control plug which goes to around 9v when squelch opens 73 Steve` - Original Message - From: Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:17 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler Do you have the CAS hooked up from your receiver on the radio thay you are using for the receiver? If not that would be my guess as to why the controller doesn't know that you are talking to it. 73 and good luck AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steve Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi need a bit of help please. I am trying to setup an NHRC-4 to work with 2 Ge Rangrs as a 6mtr rptr. I have connected the Rangr loudspeaker O/P to the nhrc primary a/f input, and the nhrc primary tx a/f to a small amp, so I can hear the tones, cw id etc. I made JP3 and applied 12v for a few seconds, then removed JP3 and from another radio tx,ed into the rptr rx. I the tx,ed again and sent dtmf 1234 to set the password, but I never got the CW OK signal. On the nhrc there are 5 led,s a yellow, green and red, then another green and red. I take it the yellow is dtmf received this is lit when I send dtmf tones. The green is CAS and red is TX primary channel. The 2nd green and red are CAS and TX secondary channel. I take it the CAS is only needed to make the nhrc key the rptr tx and is not needed to program the controller. So any ideas as to why I can't hear the tones, id,s etc 73 Steve M1SWB Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/06 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF MIcor P.A. Woes.
Hi have you measred the drive to the PA. I would go through it with a diode probe and see were the RF is going missing may even be the VCO or something Good luck Steve - Original Message - From: John Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 6:38 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF MIcor P.A. Woes. Hello to the group. My friend and I have a 75 Micor station on UHF that I was trying to resurrect to donate to a young local ham that has a UHF machine that needs to be replaced. The station in question was already in the ham bands, 444.xxx tx, 449.xxx rx. The previous owner had trouble with the PA dying all of the time, so he said, get rid of it, I've had it with this thing. Well, I began to check this thing out and confirmed that the output was non-existent. I threw another PA in and still no output. So, I checked and tuned the circulator, checked and replaced the tripler/LLA, and now I have a clean and healthy 2 watts out of the LLA to the PA. The problem is, out of 5 different spares I have here, I get nothing, no go, no outty putty. I have checked the power control logic wire and the voltage seems to swing as it should during adjustment of the pot and changes during tx. Voltage to the main PA feed is a solid 14.3 volts on tx. My question is: How much power will the Micor PA take for input if I want to bench test these things? Can I just ground the PA control wire during testing? What is the reccomended bench test arrangement. I am having a bit of trouble believing that out of 5 spares, all are bad. I know that one was soft, one other was intermittent, but I thought that I had three solid spares. Maybe Not! Maybe my coffee hasn't kicked in and made the brain get going yet. Thanks in advance.John Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler
Hi Jeff right I will put an earpiece on the nhrc a/f to the tx. No I bought it off a chap in the usa who had changed his nhrc gear to another make, and it was factory made. I can now init the unit and change the password. I tried entering and it switched off as a repeater, entered 0001 and it was back on, so maybe I need to see if there is a setting that affects tx a/f. Iam in the UK by the way 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler Yes. You should hear a courtesy beep at the least. Was your NHRC-4 a kit? Jeff At 01:04 PM 2/19/2006, you wrote: Thanks Jeff I did think this but as the CAS is required to key the TX thought I would connect it. Works fine I put a signal into the rx from my signal generator, green led and red led come on and the tx is keyed, after the timeout the tx unkeys. Am I correct in assuming that I should hear the cw OK and id tones on the A/F output to the tx, and that the tx should key I don't hear any tones 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler Actually, the NHRC-4 will receive and process DTMF tones without any valid CAS input transitions. It is designed that way, so it can be commanded even if there is a stuck mike or the CAS won't transition for some other reason. The CAS transition just makes the DTMF processing happen a bit faster. Jeff At 07:22 AM 2/19/2006, you wrote: Hi no, I have not connected the cas. The nhrc needs CAS high so I will try connecting the Rangr RX CAS line pin 12 on the control plug which goes to around 9v when squelch opens 73 Steve` - Original Message - From: Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:17 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler Do you have the CAS hooked up from your receiver on the radio thay you are using for the receiver? If not that would be my guess as to why the controller doesn't know that you are talking to it. 73 and good luck AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steve Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi need a bit of help please. I am trying to setup an NHRC-4 to work with 2 Ge Rangrs as a 6mtr rptr. I have connected the Rangr loudspeaker O/P to the nhrc primary a/f input, and the nhrc primary tx a/f to a small amp, so I can hear the tones, cw id etc. I made JP3 and applied 12v for a few seconds, then removed JP3 and from another radio tx,ed into the rptr rx. I the tx,ed again and sent dtmf 1234 to set the password, but I never got the CW OK signal. On the nhrc there are 5 led,s a yellow, green and red, then another green and red. I take it the yellow is dtmf received this is lit when I send dtmf tones. The green is CAS and red is TX primary channel. The 2nd green and red are CAS and TX secondary channel. I take it the CAS is only needed to make the nhrc key the rptr tx and is not needed to program the controller. So any ideas as to why I can't hear the tones, id,s etc 73 Steve M1SWB Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/06 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/06 Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler
Hi Mike I have tried a small amp on the contrroller tx A/F feed, can't hear anything, maybe the level insn't enough. When the CW id and programming OK tone is sent I take it the TX led should come on, on mine it dosn't. I have mailed NHRC but they take their time answering 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Mike Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler One handy piece of test equipment for repeater controllers is a old set of PC amplified speakers. The three-terminal plug can connect to both transmitter channels and you can hear what is happening just as if it is feeding a transmitter. I even drilled a hole in the front panel of the cabinet of my repeater controller to mount a stereo jack just for this purpose... See: http://www.repeater-builder.com/scom/controllerdirectprogramming.html Mike WA6ILQ At 12:10 PM 2/19/06, you wrote: Hi Jeff right I will put an earpiece on the nhrc a/f to the tx. No I bought it off a chap in the usa who had changed his nhrc gear to another make, and it was factory made. I can now init the unit and change the password. I tried entering and it switched off as a repeater, entered 0001 and it was back on, so maybe I need to see if there is a setting that affects tx a/f. Iam in the UK by the way 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler Yes. You should hear a courtesy beep at the least. Was your NHRC-4 a kit? Jeff At 01:04 PM 2/19/2006, you wrote: Thanks Jeff I did think this but as the CAS is required to key the TX thought I would connect it. Works fine I put a signal into the rx from my signal generator, green led and red led come on and the tx is keyed, after the timeout the tx unkeys. Am I correct in assuming that I should hear the cw OK and id tones on the A/F output to the tx, and that the tx should key I don't hear any tones 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Jeff Otterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler Actually, the NHRC-4 will receive and process DTMF tones without any valid CAS input transitions. It is designed that way, so it can be commanded even if there is a stuck mike or the CAS won't transition for some other reason. The CAS transition just makes the DTMF processing happen a bit faster. Jeff At 07:22 AM 2/19/2006, you wrote: Hi no, I have not connected the cas. The nhrc needs CAS high so I will try connecting the Rangr RX CAS line pin 12 on the control plug which goes to around 9v when squelch opens 73 Steve` - Original Message - From: Coy Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:17 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler Do you have the CAS hooked up from your receiver on the radio thay you are using for the receiver? If not that would be my guess as to why the controller doesn't know that you are talking to it. 73 and good luck AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steve Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi need a bit of help please. I am trying to setup an NHRC-4 to work with 2 Ge Rangrs as a 6mtr rptr. I have connected the Rangr loudspeaker O/P to the nhrc primary a/f input, and the nhrc primary tx a/f to a small amp, so I can hear the tones, cw id etc. I made JP3 and applied 12v for a few seconds, then removed JP3 and from another radio tx,ed into the rptr rx. I the tx,ed again and sent dtmf 1234 to set the password, but I never got the CW OK signal. On the nhrc there are 5 led,s a yellow, green and red, then another green and red. I take it the yellow is dtmf received this is lit when I send dtmf tones. The green is CAS and red is TX primary channel. The 2nd green and red are CAS and TX secondary channel. I take it the CAS is only needed to make the nhrc key the rptr tx and is not needed to program the controller. So any ideas as to why I can't hear the tones, id,s etc 73 Steve M1SWB Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler
Hi not really feasable as I live in Liverpool UK. I did email them a few days ago, but no reply, so far. A point you maybe able to answer. When I program in the CW ID from a mobile with dtmf mic, do I release the key in between ie, 2A18, 2D36 etc Thanks Steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler I suggest that you call NHRC, they are available weekday evenings to talk to a live person. Check their web page for times. I just spoke to him last week about a question on the NHRC-4M2 and he was very helpful. 73, Joe, K1ike steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike I have tried a small amp on the contrroller tx A/F feed, can't hear anything, maybe the level insn't enough. When the CW id and programming OK tone is sent I take it the TX led should come on, on mine it dosn't. I have mailed NHRC but they take their time answering Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler
Hi wishfull thinking, unfortunately it is United Kingdom 73 Steve M1SWB Liverpool UK, Great Britain - Original Message - From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler You mean UK is NOT Upper Kentucky? I missed that. At 04:09 PM 2/20/2006 -0800, you wrote: might be a little bit expensive, calling from the UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 20, 2006 4:04 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler I suggest that you call NHRC, they are available weekday evenings to talk to a live person. Check their web page for times. I just spoke to him last week about a question on the NHRC-4M2 and he was very helpful. 73, Joe, K1ike steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike I have tried a small amp on the contrroller tx A/F feed, can't hear anything, maybe the level insn't enough. When the CW id and programming OK tone is sent I take it the TX led should come on, on mine it dosn't. I have mailed NHRC but they take their time answering Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler
Hi
OK undersood, yes I have used the program generator
Se my email to you.
73
Steve
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From: n1ltl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:42 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler
Steve,
You must enter the CW ID characters one at a time.
Example: key in 2A18 - controller responds with CW OK, then
key in 2D36 - controller responds with CW OK, etc...
remembering that the last character must be keyed as nnFF -
where nn is the next memory location after the last CW character
programmed.
Check out the NHRC-4 programming information generator at:
http://www.nhrc.net/nhrc-4/nhrc4prog.php This is a great tool to
assist in programming the controller.
Regards,
Rich / N1LTL
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Hi
not really feasable as I live in Liverpool UK.
I did email them a few days ago, but no reply, so far.
A point you maybe able to answer. When I program in
the CW ID from a mobile with dtmf mic, do I release the
key in between ie, 2A18, 2D36 etc
Thanks
Steve
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Cc: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controler
I suggest that you call NHRC, they are available weekday evenings
to talk
to a live person. Check their web page for times. I just spoke to
him last
week about a question on the NHRC-4M2 and he was very helpful.
73, Joe, K1ike
steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Mike
I have tried a small amp on the contrroller tx A/F feed, can't hear
anything, maybe the level insn't enough. When the CW id
and programming OK tone is sent I take it the TX led should
come on, on mine it dosn't. I have mailed NHRC but they take
their time answering
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controller
Hi yes I have heard from NHRC and am getting help, so what does V3 do if it don't use hex. I have init OK and have changed the passcode, yes I realise about the FF using the # key and the * for E Biggest problem I think is me not using a suitable amp on the tx a/f as a monitor. Will sort that right away. Thanks for the help 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NHRC-4 Controller I haven't programmed my new NHRC4 MII yet. I've got the new software chip for mine, Version 3, and it does not use the hex code programming format. Did you follow the instructions in the manual? It calls for an initialization procedure, followed by entering the access code. Then you enable the controller. Then you enter the codes as you described (releasing the key after each character). After each character, you should hear OK after the character programmed. You must end the programming with an End-of-Message command. At the beginning of the CW ID, I usually add a few space characters to add a little delay before the ID starts. There is an NHRC-4 Programming Information Generator at: http://www.nhrc.net/nhrc-4/nhrc4prog.php that might be helpful. 73, Joe, K1ike At 12:32 AM 2/21/2006 +, you wrote: Hi not really feasable as I live in Liverpool UK. I did email them a few days ago, but no reply, so far. A point you maybe able to answer. When I program in the CW ID from a mobile with dtmf mic, do I release the key in between ie, 2A18, 2D36 etc Thanks Steve Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Alinco Ham Repeater??????
Hi Jim well I intend using Rangrs as a 6mtr rptr, but things are very different here in the UK. Maximum power out is 25w so no real problems with the tx burning out the PA, and of course the maximim time the tx can be used by each person having a qso is 5 minutes before they have to reaccess the rptr 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Alinco Ham Repeater?? Kris Kirby wrote: Not to pick at nits, but the Rangr is a Japanese radio, built by Japanese Radio Corporation, or JRC. It was sold to GE who sold it as thier own and is a commercial radio. I wouldn't run a Rangr in repeater service either-at least not at full output. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/265 - Release Date: 20/02/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Elavator Rooms
Hi I live in the UK and was for over 20 years a service engineer with Pye Telecom. We had a lot of commercial users base radio gear on top of high rise blocks of flats, typicly 23 floors, about 230 feethigh. The radios were usualy located in an anti room by the lift motor room, and were mounted in 6 foot 19 inch racks The radios were contolled over leased private telephone lines. On one block of flates, St Georges Heights, due to vandalism we had a fibre glass hut put on the actual roof and moved the radios into that. It was great fun watching a 240 foot crane lower the hut onto the roof. I remember one night getting a call from the caretaker saying the hut had been broken into. I arrived to find that some kind person had dropped a TX unit weighing around 30 pounds off the roof, 235 feet straight down, needless to say it was not repairable. Oh they were the days :-) 73 Steve YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Receiver Tuning
Hi on the rx discriminator is ther a test point ?. You may have to connect a test meter and from a signal generator input a fairly heafty signal and tune the discriminator for either zero or center balance. As a matter of interest what is the rx 25kc or 12.5 if 25 then peak dev is +/- 5Kc/s and 12.5 is 2.5Kc/s 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 5:44 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Receiver Tuning I've noticed that I can get a lot better sensitivity on my receivers if the source I'm measuring against is either unmodulated, or I set the deviation to 1 or 2 kHz. When I get up to 3-5 kHz deviation, the apparent sensitivity of the receiver is significantly less. I notice this on many systems, where a weak station will be in until they talk a little louder, then they drop out. Is there a tuning method I can use to minimize this effect? Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 03/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Receiver Tuning
Hi This is true, part of the problem maybe it is limiting due to say being a 12.5Kc and the mobiles are over deviating, ie, peaking at over 3kc/s or so. Just a thought. 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Receiver Tuning --- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi on the rx discriminator is ther a test point ?. You may have to connect a test meter and from a signal generator input a fairly heafty signal and tune the discriminator for either zero or center balance. As a matter of interest what is the rx 25kc or 12.5 if 25 then peak dev is +/- 5Kc/s and 12.5 is 2.5Kc/s 73 Steve Only problem is that many of the receivers now do not have a true discriminator that you can tune for a zero center. They use other types of circuits to convert the RF to audio. YOu may be able to use an oscilliscope to determin the best recovered audio or in some cases an ac voltmeter to get the maximum voltage. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 03/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] has anyone got
Hi Iam in the UK and Iam looking for a Motorola P200 on 50Mhz Reason is Iam building a 6mtr amateur rptr using 2 Ge Rangrs and NHRC controller. It is on test at present and seems to work well. I need a handheld to do some tests, so if any one has one for sale, pls email me direct. 73 Steve YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice
Hi a bit of info for you. In the UK no repeaters are allowed to run in just talkthrough mode, ie, anyone can access and use them. On older rptrs a toneburst of 1750Hz was needed to open up the RX and as long as the rx was getting an incoming signal all was fine. When the rx ceased being used the rptr shut down and waited for the next 1750 access. All newer repeaters use ctcss on the rx,s and some use both ctcss and toneburst. It is obvious why rx access needs a tone just imagine what would happen if qrm opened up the squelch either the tx PA would go, unless you use time out, in the UK it is typicly 5mins, or users would just get loads of noise... As I have said before the situation is different in the UK in so much that you have to go through a long process to get permission to run a rptr and things like tx pwr out, ant,s, squelch sensitivity etc are all laid down for each rptr. 73 Steve - Original Message - From: skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 4:36 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice Dick, There are other methods to restrict access... as in burst/selective tone operation. It's popular in Europe and other countries. The pain in the a$$ for many GMRS and Commercial radio operators are the people putting up tone panels with a lot of reserve codes set to beep-only (don't pass audio). One AH can hose up entire lists of ctcss/dcs codes for use by other and never even try to use them skipp All *REPEATERS* in UHF, both part 90 and part 95, are REQUIRED to have restricted access, and cannot be carrier squelch. PERIOD. Jim Barbour WD8CHL Well, I looked at the GMRS rules and don't see a requirement for tone squelch... digital or CTCSS. I don't think tone squelch is require, but it sire is good common sense for a GMRS repeater. Dick Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.2/280 - Release Date: 13/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice
Hi Jim applies to all repeaters both commercial and ham Over here commercial rptrs are often called community repeaters were several users use the same freq base stn, but have different ctcss access tones. Say user 1 uses 77.0Hz tone, user 2 uses 110.9. If user one transmits then he accesses the base stn using his 77.0 tone but even though user 2 may have his set on he is locked out because his tone is 110.9. The different tones go via the tone access panel. Years ago when I used to service these the gear was mounted in a 5foot high 19 inch rack It comprised of the tone panel, main tx/rx and standby tx/rx. If the main failed then the standby came on line and to tell everyone the main had failed it transmitted a beep tone. Most of the ant,s were what we called SA460,s which were the pole with the 4 elements mounted around it. Another point of interest ham repeaters in the UK can only use vertical ants, no beams or yagi,s. 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice steve wrote: Hi a bit of info for you. In the UK no repeaters are allowed to run in just talkthrough mode, ie, anyone can access and use them. fwiw-we were talking commercial and GMRS, not ham...not sure what the equiv. of GMRS is in the UK... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.2/280 - Release Date: 13/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer
Hi can anyone recommend a cheapish 6mtr duplexer, not a home made heliax one. Tx freq is 50.750 Rx 51.250 I did play with a heliax one and it was a lot of trouble, going off tune, causing desense etc,etc. Big problem is Iam in the UK and prices are very expensive, around 900 UK pounds. Thanks Steve YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer
Thanks Ron I did try large heliax but it was not really a great success as you say with just 500 split it can be difficult, but the frequencies are allocated by our regulator here in the UK I have every thing else working fine, tx/rx controller just need a duplexer... 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Steve, Since you have 500 kHz split you will need cans which as you have found expensive. Some have used 1-5/8 heliax with success, but don't think at 500 kHz. Wish I could say more. 73, ron, n9ee/r --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi can anyone recommend a cheapish 6mtr duplexer, not a home made heliax one. Tx freq is 50.750 Rx 51.250 I did play with a heliax one and it was a lot of trouble, going off tune, causing desense etc,etc. Big problem is Iam in the UK and prices are very expensive, around 900 UK pounds. Thanks Steve Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/282 - Release Date: 15/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer
Hi yes a strange band is 6mtrs. I like it and in the past have worked good dx, with psk31 and CW to the states. There is in the UK a repeater on 29Mhz wonder what duplexer that uses ?. Steve - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6 meters is a very different band and does not always act like the typical 2 meter repeater band. It's somewhere between HF and VHF, has some unique problems with noise (both manmade and natural). It takes a lot of perseverance and patience to get a 6 meter repeater working well. When it's all done, there's no band like low band. 10m FM? ;-) Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/282 - Release Date: 15/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer
Hi I asked the question origionaly, I have only tried 1 5/8 stuff and even though it did work it was very unreliable, so the large diameter cable would probably be better, just the size and weight. 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Al Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:31 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Most of the discussion I've seen for the 6 meter Heliax duplexer has been centered around using 1 5/8 Heliax. Has anyone used 3 1/8 stuff? Would there be any advantage to using the larger size? I have some available. Has anyone used the foam 1 5/8 instead of air line for a duplexer? Thanks, Al, K9SI Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/282 - Release Date: 15/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer
Hi OH how I wish I lived in the USA. In the UK we can't do any of what you say, no links, no split tx rx infact our 70Cm band is on a secondary basis, the military have priority and no new 70Cm rptrs have be licenced for a good few months. 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Erik Finskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer steve wrote: yes a strange band is 6mtrs. I like it and in the past have worked good dx, with psk31 and CW to the states. There is in the UK a repeater on 29Mhz wonder what duplexer that uses ?. Split site is very common on 10m and 6m repeaters, there's no need for man-size duplexers then. We're using NBFM links on 70cm and 23cm for connecting the sites. Repeater logic sits where the actual band receiver is. So there is a site with 10m or 6m receiver and a link transmitter. Link transmitter is keyed as it would be the normal TX of the repeater. At the other end, link receiver and the actual band (10m or 6m) transmitter are slaved, and the TX keys with COS or PL decide information of the link receiver. This way the link path gets ID'd as it just relays all of the repeater traffic and ID's given out on actual band. As both 10m and 6m acts very differently from 2m, we're looking at having voted or diversity enabled receivers on the receiver side. Having for instance polarisation diversity, signals with deep fading (multipath propagation etc) can be cancelled quite well. W1OJ is a good example of a working 10m repeater, I recall someone told that it has several receivers to cancel multipath fading and other propagation related disturbance. .. Erik OH2LAK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/282 - Release Date: 15/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer
Hi Jim yes I know. I was just saying that if I lived in the USA I could run 200w split tx/rx sites with mcrowave links and not worry about duplexers... Steve M1SWB - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer steve wrote: Hi OH how I wish I lived in the USA. In the UK we can't do any of what you say, no links, no split tx rx infact our 70Cm band is on a secondary basis, the military have priority and no new 70Cm rptrs have be licenced for a good few months. 73 Steve He's from Finland... - Original Message - From: Erik Finskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer snip .. Erik OH2LAK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/282 - Release Date: 15/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer
Hi Jim I wish there was, but in the UK repeaters are very strictley controlled. Have a look at www.ukrepeaters.net This is the ham repeater site but gives you some idea of what goes on.. Different subject does the other Jim, JVPOLL still make duplexers for sale. 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer steve wrote: Hi Jim yes I know. I was just saying that if I lived in the USA I could run 200w split tx/rx sites with mcrowave links and not worry about duplexers... Ah... It sure seems like there ought to be some way to do it. It's done in other EU countries... Any other UKer's out there that can chime in? -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/282 - Release Date: 15/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer
Hi yes Iam runmning 500Kc split 51.250 rx and 50.750 tx that is what the powers that be in the UK issue 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer The Heliax duplexer works great with a 1 mhz Split... but I think he is Running a 500Khz split He will need either a higher Q type can Or more than 6 Heliax's for the isolation Dick wrote: Steve: A friend built one of trhese heliax 6 m duplexers and swears by it. 73, Dick - Original Message - From: steve To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 15 March, 2006 13:33 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer Hi can anyone recommend a cheapish 6mtr duplexer, not a home made heliax one. Tx freq is 50.750 Rx 51.250 I did play with a heliax one and it was a lot of trouble, going off tune, causing desense etc,etc. Big problem is Iam in the UK and prices are very expensive, around 900 UK pounds. Thanks Steve YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group Repeater-Builder on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/283 - Release Date: 16/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer
Hii thanks for info, I will have another try, time permiting. 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Robin Midgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer That's the same split (500 kc) as WB5WPA designed the heliax duplexer forthere shouldn't be any reason it won't work in the U.K. At 05:42 AM 3/18/2006, you wrote: Hi yes Iam runmning 500Kc split 51.250 rx and 50.750 tx that is what the powers that be in the UK issue 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer The Heliax duplexer works great with a 1 mhz Split... but I think he is Running a 500Khz split He will need either a higher Q type can Or more than 6 Heliax's for the isolation Dick wrote: Steve: A friend built one of trhese heliax 6 m duplexers and swears by it. 73, Dick - Original Message - From: steve To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 15 March, 2006 13:33 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer Hi can anyone recommend a cheapish 6mtr duplexer, not a home made heliax one. Tx freq is 50.750 Rx 51.250 I did play with a heliax one and it was a lot of trouble, going off tune, causing desense etc,etc. Big problem is Iam in the UK and prices are very expensive, around 900 UK pounds. Thanks Steve YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group Repeater-Builder on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/283 - Release Date: 16/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links Thanks, Robin Midgett K4IDC VHF+ Glutton EM66se Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: 17/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer
Hi yes be interested in seeing the spec analyser plots. I really need to get one built for me, I don't have the gear or cable etc to make one. I did ages ago play about with a couple of lenghts of 1 5/8 heliax but it was a failure. Iam testing at present using 2 aerials it works but this is purely for tests. I don't mind paying a fair price 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Matt Beasant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer Hi Steve, The GB3FH repeater in Somerset is using a heliax duplexer and it is truly excellent! If you like I can send you the plots from the analyser that shows the performance of the duplexer, they are only small jpegs - don't think I can send them to the list as I think it strips attachments. Also, have a look at the web site www.gb3fh.org.uk for some photos from the chap who made our duplexer - he made some mods that make it much easier to tune and build Matt G4RKY GB3FH keeper - Original Message - From: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer Hii thanks for info, I will have another try, time permiting. 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Robin Midgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer That's the same split (500 kc) as WB5WPA designed the heliax duplexer forthere shouldn't be any reason it won't work in the U.K. At 05:42 AM 3/18/2006, you wrote: Hi yes Iam runmning 500Kc split 51.250 rx and 50.750 tx that is what the powers that be in the UK issue 73 Steve - Original Message - From: Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer The Heliax duplexer works great with a 1 mhz Split... but I think he is Running a 500Khz split He will need either a higher Q type can Or more than 6 Heliax's for the isolation Dick wrote: Steve: A friend built one of trhese heliax 6 m duplexers and swears by it. 73, Dick - Original Message - From: steve To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 15 March, 2006 13:33 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 6mtr duplexer Hi can anyone recommend a cheapish 6mtr duplexer, not a home made heliax one. Tx freq is 50.750 Rx 51.250 I did play with a heliax one and it was a lot of trouble, going off tune, causing desense etc,etc. Big problem is Iam in the UK and prices are very expensive, around 900 UK pounds. Thanks Steve YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group Repeater-Builder on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.4/283 - Release Date: 16/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links Thanks, Robin Midgett K4IDC VHF+ Glutton EM66se Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: 17/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links ___ Yahoo! Photos - NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: 17/03/06 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
