Re: huge catalogs and slow snapshots
I'm actually the lone mac support in a large organisation. I would never give up my mac but the company uses PeeCees and I need to support that world as well. So I need to find the best solution for support without making it too obvious that I'm terribly biased. How many times have I said "get a mac" but I also get the same version for PC as well. It's funny how the latest and greatest isn't always the best solution as evidenced by Retrospect for PC. I think the Mac version is actually a good product. Michael Michael Kennard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I much prefer a Mac any day. Trust yr heart, Michael ... ;-) I started with a Tandy, was intimately familiar with DOS -- even Edlin -- in pre-Windows days ... but: the ease of troubleshooting a Mac, ease of installing/removing yr own RAM and cards (especially in the G4s), the savings in not having to send the machine out for repairs, ability to know where to find any file (including System files) immediately without having to sort out a billion subdirectories then guessing at the cryptic naming scheme, being able to use the G4 as server, the mind-boggling speed of the G4s compared with PCs (closest thing to telepathy-with-a-machine I've ever experienced!), and the fact that G4s DON'T CRASH (at least, mine hasn't in over 8 months, daily use, except twice when I had NetsCom's memory set too low THAT app kept locking me up), Retrospect's stunning speed and reliability when backing up my (admittedly small) 27gigs of hard drives -- I wouldn't part with my Mac, not for a dozen FREE anything-elses ... Given a choice, it hardly seems logical for anyone to WILLINGLY opt for an inadequate yesterday-machine :-) -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: huge catalogs and slow snapshots
Michael Kennard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I much prefer a Mac any day. Trust yr heart, Michael ... ;-) I started with a Tandy, was intimately familiar with DOS -- even Edlin -- in pre-Windows days ... but: the ease of troubleshooting a Mac, ease of installing/removing yr own RAM and cards (especially in the G4s), the savings in not having to send the machine out for repairs, ability to know where to find any file (including System files) immediately without having to sort out a billion subdirectories then guessing at the cryptic naming scheme, being able to use the G4 as server, the mind-boggling speed of the G4s compared with PCs (closest thing to telepathy-with-a-machine I've ever experienced!), and the fact that G4s DON'T CRASH (at least, mine hasn't in over 8 months, daily use, except twice when I had NetsCom's memory set too low THAT app kept locking me up), Retrospect's stunning speed and reliability when backing up my (admittedly small) 27gigs of hard drives -- I wouldn't part with my Mac, not for a dozen FREE anything-elses ... Given a choice, it hardly seems logical for anyone to WILLINGLY opt for an inadequate yesterday-machine :-) - ilyes -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: huge catalogs and slow snapshots
Hi Michael, Most likely, these differences boil down to NTFS security permissions and registry data. This data is backed up during the snapshot phase. Both are stored with the snapshot, and the most recent snapshot from each volume is saved in the catalog. So your assumption is correct--there's more data being stored in your Retrospect for Windows catalog files. The Mac verion of Retrospect is unable to back up NTFS security permissions or Windows 2000 system state data. It is only able to get the NT/2000 registry with the aid of the Dantz Registry Backup Manager (REGMAN.EXE). We are planning to change this, but it's still a ways off. I hope this helps. Eric Ullman Dantz Development Michael Kennard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this was discussed late last year but this still baffles me... The PC takes ages to do a snapshot whereas the mac doesn't take anytime. Shouldn't the PC gather all the information it needs at the start when it's reading the disk or does it change a flag on the files/folders to mark that a backup has been done. The second thing that baffles me is that a catalog on a mac is about 1/4 of the size of the PC. They both backup Macs and PC's. There must be a lot more information being stored on Retrospect for PC. People at the Paris and Brussels office want to go to ArcServe but from what I read that is a definite backwards step. I think I might dump the PC's and go back to the Mac if this continues. What are the advantages of the PC version over the Mac? I much prefer a Mac any day. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: huge catalogs and slow snapshots
The question I have is related to load. You stated there are issues with security permissions and registry data during comparison. Yet I have noticed that the load on the server and the client much larger when backing up a windows client than a mac client. This during the whole backup process. Is this a problem with the mac server or the windows client. shawn Hi Michael, Most likely, these differences boil down to NTFS security permissions and registry data. This data is backed up during the snapshot phase. Both are stored with the snapshot, and the most recent snapshot from each volume is saved in the catalog. So your assumption is correct--there's more data being stored in your Retrospect for Windows catalog files. The Mac verion of Retrospect is unable to back up NTFS security permissions or Windows 2000 system state data. It is only able to get the NT/2000 registry with the aid of the Dantz Registry Backup Manager (REGMAN.EXE). We are planning to change this, but it's still a ways off. I hope this helps. Eric Ullman Dantz Development Michael Kennard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this was discussed late last year but this still baffles me... The PC takes ages to do a snapshot whereas the mac doesn't take anytime. Shouldn't the PC gather all the information it needs at the start when it's reading the disk or does it change a flag on the files/folders to mark that a backup has been done. The second thing that baffles me is that a catalog on a mac is about 1/4 of the size of the PC. They both backup Macs and PC's. There must be a lot more information being stored on Retrospect for PC. People at the Paris and Brussels office want to go to ArcServe but from what I read that is a definite backwards step. I think I might dump the PC's and go back to the Mac if this continues. What are the advantages of the PC version over the Mac? I much prefer a Mac any day. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Shawn Welter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Systems Technician Dark Horse Comics, Inc. Ph: 503-652-8815 x347 http://www.darkhorse.com/ Fax: 503-652-6917 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
huge catalogs and slow snapshots
I know this was discussed late last year but this still baffles me... The PC takes ages to do a snapshot whereas the mac doesn't take anytime. Shouldn't the PC gather all the information it needs at the start when it's reading the disk or does it change a flag on the files/folders to mark that a backup has been done. The second thing that baffles me is that a catalog on a mac is about 1/4 of the size of the PC. They both backup Macs and PC's. There must be a lot more information being stored on Retrospect for PC. People at the Paris and Brussels office want to go to ArcServe but from what I read that is a definite backwards step. I think I might dump the PC's and go back to the Mac if this continues. What are the advantages of the PC version over the Mac? I much prefer a Mac any day. Regards Michael -- __ Manager Internal Support Worldwide Reef Corporate Level 1, 397 Riley Street, Surry Hills NSW 2010, AUSTRALIA tel +61 (0)2 9213 3223 * fax +61 (0)2 9212 4605 * mobile +61 (0)402 130 132 www.reef.com __ REEF is a global provider of Internetware for online publishing, e-commerce, Web site administration and dynamic asset management. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
