Re: [RDD] Evergreen meaning?

[Steve Varholy]

Evergreen = has no end date.  The content does not expire, hence is "evergreen."


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Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 12:42 PM
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Subject: [RDD] Evergreen meaning?


Hi Guys

Just trying to find out what the Evergreen setting means in cuts. There is only 
one reference to the word in the Rivendell Operations Guide which seems to 
assume that I know what it means.

"GREEN – Event will play an Evergreen"

Any advice would be appreciated.

Many thanks

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Re: [RDD] Sweeper

[Steve Varholy]

The old school way to do this is to make sure your dry sweepers are shorter 
than your intros and then have the seque point at the beginning of the sweeper 
audio so the song and sweepers start at the same time.

In the old mechanical automation, this is how it was done

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Cc:
Subject:[RDD] Sweeper


Hello,
I'm looking at how to add the sweeper to songs but at the moment I cannot still 
figure out how to accomplish it.

I was thinking something like 
macro->runexternalscript->playcartwalatcorrectmoment but i found out the 
variable on RN are referring to the time and not to metadata.

@Fred is it possible to implement a variable we can use to send to an external 
script to the position in the playlist or metadata (full example artist - title 
- year)? In this way would be possible to check on DB if any talk time is 
present and chose the optimal sweeper from cart-wall to catch the intro.

If anyone of you knows a better way to do it please let me know.
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Re: [RDD] Overlay Event

[Steve Varholy]

Could you do via a macro as a timed event, such that it fires off a soundpanel 
button at a set time?


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 on behalf of Steve 

Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 11:07 AM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 

Subject: [RDD] Overlay Event

Hello,

Is it possible to overlay an event on another cart while in automated mode?

Background: We have a Grateful Dead show that features some of their
live music.  Some of those songs can run 20 or more minutes but some run
only 3 minutes.  We have clocks setup with music and normal timed events
to try to keep the clocks running on time.  One of those timed events is
a Legal ID event which is setup as Segue/Timed/MakeNext so that it makes
itself the next cart at the top of the hour.

That all works well for songs that are 3 or 4 minutes because the legal
plays out a couple minutes either side of the top of the hour.  However,
if one of the Grateful Dead songs starts at :50, it could easily go well
past the top of the hour.

I'd like to have an event that could play the legal but then continue
the current cart.  If there was a live jock in the booth it would be
easy to do through the soundpanel or just live on the air.  Is there a
way to do that or am I stuck putting a hard start time and cutting off
the current Grateful Dead jam and harshing everyone's mellow?

Steve
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Re: [RDD] tight vnc into new appliance

[Steve Varholy]

Is the Rivendell box popping up a dialog on it's screen to ask permission to 
share the desktop?

The 2.x appliances would do that.


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Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 1:00 PM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 

Subject: [RDD] tight vnc into new appliance

This is a brand new Paravel Appliance being set up on minimal CentOS 7.  I have 
installed as root the x11vnc-auto per the instructions Nov 2018 RDD, including 
systemctl start x11vnc-auto.socket and systemctl enable x11vnc-auto.socket.  As 
user rd used vnc password and following the prompts I set a password but did 
not use a view only password.  Up until this point everything has gone as 
expected except when I use a TightVNC from Windows 10 Pro across the LAN the 
Appliance connects and asks for the password.  When I put in the correct 
password, the Appliance responds with "The connection has been gracefully 
closed".  /home/rd/vnc.log is empty. Tail of dmesg has nothing I recognize as 
vnc related. This same Windows 10 computer Tight VNC works on 11 other (older) 
Appliances.  This is my first RD3 and my first in CentOS 7 - everything else 
was in CentOS 6 and I have to use notes just to get around.

Do you think I need to add the password to root to get the VNC to open?  What 
else should I do to get this working?
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Re: [RDD] Riv with a NAS

[Steve Varholy]

Frank:

I'm a less experienced Rivendell user, but I did an install that has been going 
to 4+ years now.

I don't know how much experience you have with Linux/*nix systems, but they are 
different than Windows systems in which the file system is conceptually tied to 
a physical drive and a "hard" file system tree.

All you would need to do is mount your relocated audio store(directory) as 
/var/snd and Rivendell will access it, whereas in Windows, you would have to 
tell the playback that it is now on drive F:, O:, etc...



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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Frank Christel 

Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 5:01 PM
To: drew Roberts 
Cc: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System 

Subject: Re: [RDD] Riv with a NAS

Actually, my interest in using a NAS is just curiosity at this point.

My immediate goal is in learning how to move the Rivendell audio storage 
location to a different hard drive on the same machine. I haven’t yet located 
where in RDAdmin(?) to modify the audio and database default location of 
"(directory) /var/snd".

Thanks,

Frank

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Which NAS do you want to use. Do you have a link to the docs for that NAS?

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Re: [RDD] Program Promo Tags

[Steve Varholy]

I am not doing it with my Rivendell install, however with our MediaTouch 
system, I do it by setting the "sec/segue" point at the beginning of the bed, 
so it starts the tag. Both will play until the EOM on the tag, which triggers 
the next item, ending both the bed and the tag.


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 on behalf of Mark Murdock 

Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 11:35 AM
To: 'rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org' 

Subject: [RDD] Program Promo Tags


I have several daily program promos that RDCatch gets every day, and I have 
tags that I would like to play over the music at the end of the promos, but we 
can’t go in and produce these things in an editor every day. Is there a way to 
set up the promos so the tags will start playing over the music after the voice 
in the promo? Like when the level drops to -18 or something?



Thanks,



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90 E. 16th St.

Merced, CA 95340

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Re: [RDD] RDImport and Disk Space

[Steve Varholy]

Neat!

Sent from my Sprint Phone.

-- Original message--
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Date: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 9:50 PM
To: Rivendell Users Group;
Cc:
Subject:Re: [RDD] RDImport and Disk Space

On 19-11-27 12 h 16, Steve Varholy wrote:
Mark:

Add another drive, move/copy /var/snd to it and create a symbolic link to the 
new location. Done.



You can also use UnionFS to overlay a new filesystem on a new drive on top of 
the old filesystem. The old filesystem effectively becomes read-only as the 
writes are all redirected to the new filesystem. This lets you progressively 
move old files to the new drive, without any downtime, assuming your system 
supports hotplugging of new drives.


Sébastien
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Re: [RDD] RDImport and Disk Space

[Steve Varholy]

Mark:

Add another drive, move/copy /var/snd to it and create a symbolic link to the 
new location. Done.

In many instances keeping your audio store on a system drive is disfavored. 
That way a system dusc failure only requires a system reimage.



Sent from my Sprint Phone.

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Date: Wed, Nov 27, 2019 11:53 AM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org;
Cc:
Subject:[RDD] RDImport and Disk Space

So apparently, I need a drive much bigger than 1.5 TB unless I want to run 
compressed files. I wish I had known this going into this. The Rivendell System 
Requirements specify a 1 TB drive. Maybe that should be bumped up to 4 TB for 
music stations that want to store uncompressed files. Do I have to start over 
from scratch for the server, or can I clone the 1.5 TB drive? If I clone the 
drive, won’t it preserve the 50 GB size on /dev/mapper/centos-root?

Thanks,

Mark Murdock
KAMB
90 E. 16th St.
Merced, CA 95340
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Re: [RDD] pypad delay

[Steve Varholy]

Gabriele:

You shouldn't have a sync issue with your streams because the metadata would be 
injected in sync with the program, so the encoding process would delay 
everything at once and keep it in sync. If you are feeding the metadata 
directly to another service apart from the audio, such as TuneIn or your 
website, then you would have to worry about a delaying the metadata.


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Gabriele Fergola 

Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 10:18 AM
To: Rivendell-Dev 
Subject: [RDD] pypad delay

Hello, there is a way to delay pypad?
I'm going to explain.. i have around 30 sec of delay in my audio chain and so 
the title of the song is sent before the user is hearing the song.

If not is possible to introduce a delay only for icecast and shoutcast stream?


Regards
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Re: [RDD] Sound cards

[Steve Varholy]

The Rivendell system I have set up to play IDs for network affiliates uses 
Lexicon Alpha USB interfaces. They are two-channel only, but were cheap and 
reliable.

I say "were" because they are now discontinued.


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of David Klann 

Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 9:30 AM
To: Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com>; 
rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
Subject: Re: [RDD] Sound cards

I'm with you on this Rob. It's frustrating!

It seems like the combination of 1) "reasonably priced", 2) "industrial
grade", and 3) "works with Linux" audio devices have become unicorns.

I used to install the Digigram VX222 (PCI) and VX222e (PCIe), but Digigram
recently made a hardware modification that has rendered this card unusable on
Linux (even with a vendor-provided, updated driver).

The most significant problem I have experienced is finding an audio device
with balanced inputs and outputs. My current solution, though less than ideal,
is the ASUS Xonar devices and a matchbox (StudioHub, Henry Engineering, Angry
Audio, etc.) to handle the balanced/unbalanced conversion.

What are others doing?

  ~David Klann



On Wed, 2019-08-21 at 08:52 -0400, Rob Landry wrote:
> On Monday morning a direct lightning hit to the building where two of our
> stations have their studios took out several thousand dollars worth of
> equipment, including the ASI sound cards in the Rivendell playout systems
> for the two stations. The exact card we were using is no longer in
> production, so we ordered two new ASI5810's. When we put them in, they
> weren't recognized by CentOS 6 and Rivendell couldn't see them.
>
> The 5810's require at least version 4.18 of the asihpi driver, and the
> version we had been using was 4.16. Newer versions will not install on
> CentOS 6.
>
> On CentOS 7 at a different station, I was able to install one of the newer
> drivers but Rivendell wouldn't see it.
>
> While I have not yet tried to use a 5810 under Debian 9, I think ASI and I
> have come to the parting of the ways. It's clear from the disappearance of
> cards such as the M-Audio Delta and Echo MIA from the marketplace that the
> industry is moving way from analog audio, and those of us who still
> maintain analog plants may have to rely on USB adapters and external
> matchboxes (which install without trouble on pretty much anything).
>
> What sound cards are y'all using for new Rivendell systems these days?
>
>
> Rob
>
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Re: [RDD] Best Computers for Rivendell

[Steve Varholy]

I like to use refurbished HP8300 USFF machines with name brand SSD drives. 
They've been rock solid. Rivendell did not like the built-in sound card.


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Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 4:57:27 PM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: [RDD] Best Computers for Rivendell


If one were going to purchase an off-the-shelf computer for Rivendell, what 
would be a good choice? What brand? What kind of processor? HD or SSD? What to 
avoid?



Thanks,



Mark Murdock

Production Director

KAMB

90 E. 16th St.

Merced, CA 95340

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Re: [RDD] Cent OS

[Steve Varholy]

Dells and HP machines are my preference. Had one HP who's internal sound card 
gave me issues, but never installation issues.

I had a DELL XE give me stability issues under Ubuntu. It's been fine with 
Centos.


Sent from my Sprint Phone.

-- Original message--
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Date: Fri, Mar 29, 2019 12:50 PM
To: Tom Van Gorkom;Andy Higginson;
Cc: rivendell-dev;
Subject:Re: [RDD] Cent OS

A used Dell is a trouble free RD machines in Legacy mode over 5 years with us 
on 3 models we ran live on Debian:  745 755 (amd) and 380



Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat


 Oorspronkelijk bericht 
Van: Tom Van Gorkom 
Datum: 29-03-2019 16:41 (GMT+01:00)
Aan: Andy Higginson 
Cc: rivendell-dev 
Onderwerp: Re: [RDD] Cent OS

I also have found that it depends on the computer BIOS which way works best 
(DVD or USB) and have been frustrated with Lenovos in the past. I find that 
used Dells work every time without issues... so far. You often have to install 
using legacy mode instead of UEFI.

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Cell: 865-803-7427

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On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 10:20 AM Andy Higginson 
mailto:a...@higgles.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi,

How are you trying to install CentOS?  Is it CentOS7?  I've found that a 
problem that I had with CentOS 7.6 went away by using CentOS 7.5 (it may have 
been 7.5 drop down to 7.4 - everything merges into the past).  Try with an 
older sub version of the installer.  It will still update to the latest once 
you have installed it.

I created my installer on USB by downloading the .iso file and then doing this  
  dd if=CentOS-7-x86_64-Minimal-1708.iso of=/dev/sdX   where X is the USB 
drive.  This has worked for me so far.

Andy






 On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 13:06:25 + Gavin Stephens 
mailto:ga...@stephens.net.nz>> wrote 

Well I had some older Lenovo Core2Duo machines (7360 CTO ThinkCenter's) arrive 
today to mark them for RD installation with new HDD's.

Unfortunately Cent OS minimal ISO and full 64-bit wont install.

I keep getting something to do with failed to claim resource 0, then eventually 
goes to a emergency mode shell.

I thought it maybe BIOS so I've tried enabling/disabling AHCPI. Setting SATA to 
IDE and back. Tried setting enable/disable plug n play OS etc... all in 
different combinations but no luck.

These machines don't have any other hardware than the default on-board sound, 
ethernet, usb etc... no PCI or PCIx cards.

Looks like these machines are no good for RD. Bummer.

Cheers,
Gavin.
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Re: [RDD] Centos 7 & Dell Optiplex 3060 Tower

[Steve Varholy]

These past few years, I prefer the HP enterprise machines over the Dells and 
both Dell/HP over any white-box machines.


We only buy off-lease refurbs. It's cost-effective and Rivendell/audio work 
does not require the latest and greatest processors and you cannot build a new 
machine for the cost of a refurb from a reputable reseller.


These big manufacturer enterprise machines are well documented, the 
drivers/manuals are maintained in the very long term on the manufacturer's 
website so you are not hunting for drivers from component manufacturers. In 
addition, they are tool-less cases, so any component failure can easily and 
quickly be addressed.


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<41001...@interpring.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 11:32:17 AM
To: Cliff Osbourne
Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Centos 7 & Dell Optiplex 3060 Tower


In my experience, Dell machines don't take industry standard parts. If a
power supply fails, you need a Dell power supply, and one for that
particular model, as they are not necessarily the same from model to
model.

I prefer machines that use standard ATX power supplies, standard CD/DVD-RW
drives, etc. And, because I usually need a certain number of PCI or PCI-e
slots, serial ports, and what not, I often prefer to build my own machines
around motherboards of my choosing.


Rob

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Я там, где плакаты "Вперёд",
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Re: [RDD] Substitute Voice Track If Missing

[Steve Varholy]

Another possible way to handle it is to schedule liners in front of the voice 
track break. When the announcer records their voice tracks, they remove the 
liners. That way the default is that if the hour has not been voice tracked, 
the liner will play.


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
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riv...@braingia.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 12:39:03 PM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: [RDD] Substitute Voice Track If Missing

Hello,

I have a unique situation whereby we have numerous student volunteers
who do airshifts.  Sometimes they fail to show up for their shift,
leaving the Program Director to scramble.

To alleviate some of the load on the PD, I'd like to figure out a way to
substitute a liner or similar content if a voicetrack is missing.  For
example, if we have three or four announcer breaks an hour and the jock
doesn't show up, I'd like the automation to pop a liner in there without
needing human intervention.

I'm new enough to Rivendell that I think there's a way to do it but I
don't quite have the knowledge to make it happen or the vocabulary to
adequately search for an answer either.  Maybe a macro?

Steve
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Re: [RDD] FTP set up using FileZilla into Appliance

[Steve Varholy]

IIRC Filezilla is an FTP client and you are trying to FTP into your appliance 
rather than use SAMBA and Windows networking into the box.


If you want to use FTP


  1.  Assure that the FTP server is running on the appliance.
  2.  Use the CENTOS username and password when setting up FileZilla.


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 on behalf of Jesse Jones 

Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 6:44:07 PM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: [RDD] FTP set up using FileZilla into Appliance

I am stumped at this point.  I am trying to set up FileZilla in a Windows 
Machine to transfer audio files to my Rivendell Appliance (in CentOS 6).
The Appliance sees the Windows Network, and will navigate inside the Windows 10 
Pro box.  But when I try to do a "quick connect" from the FileZilla using the 
local IPv4 address of the Appliance, with rd as the user and no password (since 
I understand rd is set up with no password by the Appliance) and ports 21 or 
22, I get an authorization failure.
Do I set a password in CentOS 6 for rd?  Will that mess anything up in the 
Appliance?  Is there a better way to set up the FileZilla Client to get into 
Rivendell Appliance?
Jesse Jones in Blanket Texas

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Re: [RDD] Password error

[Steve Varholy]

IIRC that the default is user: admin with no password 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Tracy Turner  wrote:
> 
> I've been able to successfully install the Broadcast Appliance with Centos.  
> Now when I try to log into the RDAmin module with username root and the 
> password I used setting it up. I get a password error.  Am I missing a step?
> 
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Re: [RDD] Need Hardware Genius - Serial Port GPIO and Auditronics 200Console

[Steve Varholy]

The GPI-16 and SRC-4 should work out of the box withPatricks install of 
Rivendell.


I have my appliance build using an SRC-4 seamlessly.


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Wayne Taylor 

Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 12:36:48 AM
To: Patrick; Rivendell-Dev
Subject: Re: [RDD] Need Hardware Genius - Serial Port GPIO and Auditronics 
200Console

Hi Patrick,

Whenever I have to interface the serial world with the GPIO world I reach
for a device from Broadcast Tools.  Though I haven't used these with RD, one
of these should do the trick.  Check out their site:

http://broadcasttools.com/product-category/usb-serial-gpi-gpio/

Thanks,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Patrick
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 6:22 PM
To: Rivendell-Dev
Subject: [RDD] Need Hardware Genius - Serial Port GPIO and Auditronics
200Console

I am hoping someone can help me figure out how to use the serial port as
GPIO so our Auditronics 200 console will start Rivendell when an SLI module
is turned on. While I enjoy providing software updates to the project, I am
not a hardware person. I've attached the manual page for the Logic Control
(Option 4) and a schematic of the SLI board. What I'm trying to do is have
one of the serial control lines go high when a module is turned on.

If this cannot be done with a serial port (or game port), would someone
recommend a low-cost alternative?









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Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Steve Varholy]

We are using external USB interfaces on the USF HP8300's. On the mini-towers, 
we are using M-Audio cards that are now obsolete.


I saw you also asked on the list about how long the Dell Optiplexes lasted. We 
were using 755 minitowers. We got 3-4 years out of them before the motherboards 
developed capacitor problems. I had three all go legs up within a 2 1/2 month 
timeframe.


I highly recommend enterprise/corporate machines rather than white-box built 
ones for three reasons: 1. tool-less cases. They are designed for quick 
component replacement. 2. Long system service lifespan - there are no major 
changes for the life of model, so, for example, all you need are the drivers 
for the 8300. No wondering whether your box is a RevA/B/C, etc.  3. HP/Dell 
maintain the availability of the drivers and documentation online for decades. 
No worries about not being able to obtain the drivers you need.


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Rich Stivers 

Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:54:05 PM
To: Rivendell-Dev
Subject: Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell


I appreciate your reply. How long do these refurbished HP 8300's last? I see 
they have great reviews on Amazon.


Are you using Audio Science sound cards in these by chance?


Rich Stivers


On 2/12/2018 20:46, Steve Varholy wrote:

I prefer to use enterprise/corporate level systems that have come off lease and 
have been refurbished.


After suffering through years of Dell Optiplexes that have bad motherboard 
capacitors, we've moved over to HPs with Intel i5 processors. In particular, I 
have had good luck with the 8300 series with a mix of USF/Slim Form 
Factor/Desktop and Mini-Tower. They can run Windows XP (for our iMediaTouch 
system - scheduled for upgrade to the latest version or replacement with 
Rivendell) so you shouldn't have any issues.�


I have Rivendell built from the Appliance on a 8300 Slim Desktop/SSD and it's 
been rock solid for a year.


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<mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
 on behalf of Rich Stivers <mailto:r...@stivers-bros.com>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 11:35:29 PM
To: Rivendell-Dev
Subject: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell
�

I need to upgrade an older PC running Rivendell that was built from the 
Appliance DVD. Of the people who prefer an
Appliance build, what new PC's have all of you recently purchased to run 
Rivendell? Did you buy a name brand PC or
build it from components?

I usually buy my new Windows PC's from a friend who builds PC's from 
components. When I asked him about putting
together a PC to run Centos 6,� he was concerned Centos 6 may not run on the 
latest chipsets. Is this true?

All comments welcome.

Rich Stivers
KKUP-FM 91.5 Non-Commercial Community Radio
Cupertino / San Jose CA

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Re: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell

[Steve Varholy]

I prefer to use enterprise/corporate level systems that have come off lease and 
have been refurbished.


After suffering through years of Dell Optiplexes that have bad motherboard 
capacitors, we've moved over to HPs with Intel i5 processors. In particular, I 
have had good luck with the 8300 series with a mix of USF/Slim Form 
Factor/Desktop and Mini-Tower. They can run Windows XP (for our iMediaTouch 
system - scheduled for upgrade to the latest version or replacement with 
Rivendell) so you shouldn't have any issues.


I have Rivendell built from the Appliance on a 8300 Slim Desktop/SSD and it's 
been rock solid for a year.


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Rich Stivers 

Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 11:35:29 PM
To: Rivendell-Dev
Subject: [RDD] New PC To Run Centos 6 + Rivendell


I need to upgrade an older PC running Rivendell that was built from the 
Appliance DVD. Of the people who prefer an
Appliance build, what new PC's have all of you recently purchased to run 
Rivendell? Did you buy a name brand PC or
build it from components?

I usually buy my new Windows PC's from a friend who builds PC's from 
components. When I asked him about putting
together a PC to run Centos 6,  he was concerned Centos 6 may not run on the 
latest chipsets. Is this true?

All comments welcome.

Rich Stivers
KKUP-FM 91.5 Non-Commercial Community Radio
Cupertino / San Jose CA
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Re: [RDD] Appliance dvd

[Steve Varholy]

That's not good. Obviously.


Our last install of the appliance, Rivendell would only recognize the card for 
playback if it was set at 48000, and then it played everything off speed.


The only way we "fixed" it was with a different card.


Do you have another different USB card around to swap in and see what it does?


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From: ctec...@dotcom1.net  on behalf of Tim Camp 

Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 1:59:21 PM
To: Steve Varholy
Cc: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System
Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance dvd

Changed sample rate, now we have unable to start rivendell daemons


On Oct 16, 2017 12:45 PM, "Steve Varholy" 
mailto:st...@wxryfm.org>> wrote:

Sounds like the issue I had 8 months back.


What happens if in Rdalsaconfig you change the sample rate?


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mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>>
 on behalf of Tim Camp mailto:t...@dotcom1.net>>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 1:43:05 PM
To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System
Subject: [RDD] Appliance dvd

New install of appliance, everything went well.
Rdalsaconfig sees my USB audio interface, selected it, rivendell doesn't see it 
under audio sources.

This is the same device we used under Ubuntu where it just worked  first time 
it was plugged in, no fussing at all.

Jack sees the interface but can't initialize.

Modprobe snd-usb-audio loads kernel module.

Alsa lists the interface.

Can't figure out what's going on

Cheers

Tim Camp
WZEW
Mobile, Al.

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Re: [RDD] Appliance dvd

[Steve Varholy]

Sounds like the issue I had 8 months back.


What happens if in Rdalsaconfig you change the sample rate?


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Tim Camp 

Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 1:43:05 PM
To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System
Subject: [RDD] Appliance dvd

New install of appliance, everything went well.
Rdalsaconfig sees my USB audio interface, selected it, rivendell doesn't see it 
under audio sources.

This is the same device we used under Ubuntu where it just worked  first time 
it was plugged in, no fussing at all.

Jack sees the interface but can't initialize.

Modprobe snd-usb-audio loads kernel module.

Alsa lists the interface.

Can't figure out what's going on

Cheers

Tim Camp
WZEW
Mobile, Al.

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Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

[Steve Varholy]

VPN into our network and use VNC. At least that is what we do.


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 on behalf of Tom Van Gorkom 

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:57:02 AM
To: Cowboy
Cc: Rivendell-Dev
Subject: Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

So I'm curious as to whether any of you have a way to log into your airplay 
machines or other boxes on Riv at night or weekends from home if something 
isn't right?  I use TeamViewer and it has saved me lots of time when I get a 
call that something isn't sounding right or shouldn't be playing on the 
weekend. Without an internet connection, I would have to make trips to the 
studio. What do you all do?

Tom Van Gorkom
Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM
Office: 956-380-8150
Cell: 865-803-7427

Rio Grande Bible Institute
4300 S US Hwy 281
Edinburg, TX 78539

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Cowboy mailto:c...@cwf1.com>> 
wrote:
On Wednesday 17 May 2017 08:25:38 am Rob Landry wrote:
> Myself, I prefer
> the second approach, not fixing what isn't broken.

 Which I've been advocating for many, many years.

 Sometimes Rob and I disagree.
 Through his entire post, this is not one of 'em !

 Some of you know that I wrote Spam-O-Matic to be an artificially
 intelligent self-training maintenance free anti-spam machine back
 in 2004.
 The prototype machine has been running since then, with two disk
 replacements and one motherboard replacement since then, total
 down-time about ten minutes on Slackware 9.1.

 Eventually, we are drug kicking and screaming into an update.
 Spam-O was recently "up"graded to a dual-core atom 64 bit processor
 in an ImageStream TS-1000 chassis largely just because.
 As a result I was forced to upgrade to a 2.6.27 kernel, because the
 2.4.x kernel simply can't do SATA drives.
 It's still running the same Slackware 9.1 with only the kernel and modules
 updated to accommodate the hardware.
 Why ?
 If it isn't broken...
 I fully expect this arrangement to last the rest of my lifetime with no
 further updates.
 Spam-O does what it does very, very well. There will be no "features"
 added. No functionality expansion of any kind. There will be no need.

 Rivendell is a little different. Features are added. Functionality is expanded,
 to meet needs. Therefore some updates are necessary.
 Being a rather large beta site, we get them before you do.
 Sometimes, that is NOT a good thing ! ( well, it's a good thing FOR YOU ! )
 And yes, there have been updates to CentOS that have rather badly
 broken some aspects of Rivendell on occasion.
 We strive that what is released to you, is exactly what it purports to be.
 Sometimes we do miss something.
 Known bug squashing is on the list, but that doesn't mean it'll happen today !
 Just because Red Hat has updated the OS doesn't mean we're gonna rush right
 out and apply it today. In fact, we rather deliberately don't.
 Sometimes, things break.
 When it works for me, you'll get it.
 Meantime, if it were my revenue stream, I'd be doing as I do, as Rob is 
advocating.
 Test it thoroughly on a redundant machine, or leave well enough alone.
 ( preferably, both )

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steer clear of me at parties.  Often, as a sign of their great respect,
they don't even invite me."
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Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

[Steve Varholy]

Query me this: why is your playback machine potentially at risk? Wouldnt it be 
better to have it not exposed directly to the Internet?


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From: Rick Thomas 
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:38:54 PM
To: Steve Varholy
Cc: Rivendell Dev List; support
Subject: Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

That’s essentially option 2 by another name.  It has the same problems.  If 
doing it breaks something in Rivendell, we’re off the air.

Perhaps one of the support folks can tell us which of the 4 update packages 
from the Paravel repo it’s safe to uncheck?

Thanks!
Rick

> On May 16, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Steve Varholy  wrote:
>
> IIRC you can choose not to apply certain updates by unchecking them in the 
> Software Update dialog window.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 16, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Rick Thomas  wrote:
>>
>> We are using the CentOS-6 that is part of the Rivendell Broadcast Appliance 
>> system from Paravel Systems.  We have a paid-up support contract.  It’s 
>> really great, and we love it a lot!  Thanks for all the wonderful features!
>>
>> Now the problem:
>>
>> The Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update appears along with more than 300 other updates 
>> from CentOS when we run “yum check-update”.  Some of those CentOS updates 
>> are important security fixes.  So far as I know, there are no security 
>> issues with the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 package.
>>
>> However, if we hold off installing the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update because we 
>> don’t want to deal with the bug in the attached mail from Fred Gleason, 
>> discovered by Ryan Williams, we are also holding off on installing all the 
>> security (and other) fixes from CentOS.
>>
>> We have two alternatives, as I see it.
>>
>> 1) What we’re doing now: hold off on any updates until the attached bug is 
>> fixed by Paravel Systems.
>>
>> or
>>
>> 2) Disable the Paravel Systems repo in the yum configuration files, thereby 
>> preventing the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update from being applied — along with 
>> everything else from Paravel.  We’ve never done this before (never needed 
>> to!) and we don’t know what it might break if we try it.  If it breaks 
>> something in the Rivendell system, that will take us off the air, which we 
>> don’t want to do.
>>
>> So…
>>
>> Please fix the attached bug!
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Rick Thomas
>> SysAdmin, KPTZ 91.9 FM, Port Townsend, WA
>>
>>
>>> On May 16, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Scott Spillers  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rick,
>>> We do not have any influence over development of the CentOS Linux 
>>> distribution, only the Rivendell code.  What version of CentOS are you 
>>> using?  CentOS 5 has reached end of life and is no longer updated.  You may 
>>> want to consider updating to CentOS 7 if your version of the distro is no 
>>> longer supported.
>>>
>>> Scott Spillers
>>> sco...@paravelsystems.com
>>>
>>> On May 16, 2017 12:10 PM, "Rick Thomas"  wrote:
>>> Dear Rivendell developers,
>>>
>>> We’ve been holding off installing the Rivendell2.15.3-1 update, hoping to 
>>> see a fix for this bug.
>>>
>>> But with all the activity over the NSA zero-day exploits released a few 
>>> months ago, it’s becoming imperative that we get the security updates from 
>>> CentOS that this is blocking.
>>>
>>> Please bump up the priority on this one…
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rick Thomas,
>>> SysAdmin KPTZ, 91.9 FM Port Townsend, WA
>>>
>>>
>>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>>> From: Fred Gleason 
>>>> Date: Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 8:05 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RDD] Rivendell v2.15.3
>>>> To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System 
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:57, Ryan Williams  wrote:
>>>>> I'm having an regression with the most recent release. If I open 
>>>>> RDLogEdit and try to add to a log's description it does not save. We use 
>>>>> the field field to add "READY" to the end of the description when the log 
>>>>&

Re: [RDD] Please fix this bug...

[Steve Varholy]

IIRC you can choose not to apply certain updates by unchecking them in the 
Software Update dialog window.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Rick Thomas  wrote:
> 
> We are using the CentOS-6 that is part of the Rivendell Broadcast Appliance 
> system from Paravel Systems.  We have a paid-up support contract.  It’s 
> really great, and we love it a lot!  Thanks for all the wonderful features!
> 
> Now the problem:
> 
> The Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update appears along with more than 300 other updates 
> from Centos when we run “yum check-update”.  Some of those CentOS updates are 
> important security fixes.  So far as I know, there are no security issues 
> with the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 package.  
> 
> However, if we hold off installing the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update because we 
> don’t want to deal with the bug in the attached mail from Fred Gleason, 
> discovered by Ryan Williams, we are also holding off on installing all the 
> security (and other) fixes from CentOS.
> 
> We have two alternatives, as I see it.
> 
> 1) What we’re doing now: hold off on any updates until the attached bug is 
> fixed by Paravel Systems.
> 
> or 
> 
> 2) Disable the Paravel Systems repo in the yum configuration files, thereby 
> preventing the Rivendell 2.15.3-1 update from being applied — along with 
> everything else from Paravel.  We’ve never done this before (never needed 
> to!) and we don’t know what it might break if we try it.  If it breaks 
> something in the Rivendell system, that will take us off the air, which we 
> don’t want to do.
> 
> So…
> 
> Please fix the attached bug!
> 
> Thanks!
> Rick Thomas
> SysAdmin, KPTZ 91.9 FM, Port Townsend, WA
> 
> 
>> On May 16, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Scott Spillers  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Rick,
>> We do not have any influence over development of the CentOS Linux 
>> distribution, only the Rivendell code.  What version of CentOS are you 
>> using?  CentOS 5 has reached end of life and is no longer updated.  You may 
>> want to consider updating to CentOS 7 if your version of the distro is no 
>> longer supported.
>> 
>> Scott Spillers
>> sco...@paravelsystems.com
>> 
>> On May 16, 2017 12:10 PM, "Rick Thomas"  wrote:
>> Dear Rivendell developers,
>> 
>> We’ve been holding off installing the Rivendell2.15.3-1 update, hoping to 
>> see a fix for this bug.
>> 
>> But with all the activity over the NSA zero-day exploits released a few 
>> months ago, it’s becoming imperative that we get the security updates from 
>> CentOS that this is blocking.
>> 
>> Please bump up the priority on this one…
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Rick Thomas,
>> SysAdmin KPTZ, 91.9 FM Port Townsend, WA
>> 
>> 
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: Fred Gleason 
>>> Date: Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 8:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [RDD] Rivendell v2.15.3
>>> To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:57, Ryan Williams  wrote:
 I'm having an regression with the most recent release. If I open RDLogEdit 
 and try to add to a log's description it does not save. We use the field 
 field to add "READY" to the end of the description when the log is cleared 
 for air, so this one is going to sting a lot.
>>> Partially confirmed here.  If you use the ‘Save’ button, the updated 
>>> Description is indeed lost.  However, clicking ‘OK’ (without clicking 
>>> ‘Save’ first) appears to work normally.
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> 
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>>> |   |  Paravel Systems |
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Re: [RDD] Sound Blaster Audigy

[Steve Varholy]

I am using ultra-small CPUs without space for internal cards.


This is the USB card I am using:


Lexicon Alpha USB Desktop Recording Studio


It's around $50 street. It has worked flawlessly with the Rivendell Appliance 
and was basically plug and play. It sounds good, too.


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From: Al Peterson 
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:40:32 AM
To: Steve Varholy
Cc: Andy Higginson; rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Sound Blaster Audigy

Steve Said:

The solution was use another card ... A new card resolved it and we've been 
rock solid since.

What card did you go with?

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Re: [RDD] Sound Blaster Audigy

[Steve Varholy]

I had a similar issue with an Centos 6 Appliance install. It would recognize 
the onboard sound card, but would not play sound - and give many of the 
symptoms you have.


The solution was use another card.


The issue is a conflict between the sample rate that the card driver wants to 
see and what the setting is in RDAdmin.


In my case, the card driver wanted to see 48000 but setting 48000 in RDAdmin to 
match (and resolve the play bar moving/no audio) would cause all sorts of audio 
quality issues.


A new card resolved it and we've been rock solid since.


Hope this gives you something to go on.


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Andy Higginson 

Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:06:20 AM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Sound Blaster Audigy

Hi,

Done a little more testing with a Centos 7 Appliance install. What I can now 
say is that the problem is only there on the new script installed machines, and 
not with the Broadcast Appliance machines. I've installed all of the test 
machines on separate HDDs so I can switch between them. I must admit that this 
is where my level of knowledge on the backend of the system ends. Any ideas 
would be very much appreciated.

Oh, before I forget, a happy Easter to everyone here on the mailing list.

Andy


  On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 21:35:06 +0100 Andy Higginson  
wrote 
 > Hi,
 >
 > Having said all of this, I'm getting issues with the card now.  I've been 
 > using it without issue on a CentOS 6 Broadcast Appliance machine.
 >
 > I've built a new machine using the new install method and now the card is 
 > not working.  When using the default out of the box asound.conf, there is 
 > the usual 1 main output and this is working.  When the asound.conf is 
 > configured to use the card with the 3 outputs (which works on the Broadcast 
 > Appliance), it doesn't work.  If I play the test audio in the Library, the 
 > play bar does not move and no audio comes out.  After 10 seconds, the file 
 > stops playing.  At first, nothing is seen on the meters and then they begin 
 > to creep up a little.
 >
 > Things I've tried
 >
 > New install method with both Centos 7 and then Centos 6 (neither of which 
 > work).
 > Adding rate to the asound.conf
 > Changing the soundcard
 > Building a Centos 6 Broadcast Appliance - This does work, therefore proving 
 > the machine.
 >
 > Does anybody have any thoughts?
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 > Andy
 >
 >
 >
 >   On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:12:51 +0100 Andy Higginson  
 > wrote 
 >  > Hi,
 >  >
 >  > Which version of the card is this?  I'm using an Audigy 2 card in a 
 > machine and have 3 separate analogue outputs.  I've also used a cheaper 
 > Audigy Live SE card and got all of the outputs to work as well.  I had to 
 > run the RDAlsaConfig program and define the cards though as by default only 
 > a single output is defined.  Once you have configured this, you should be 
 > able to use all of the outputs.
 >  >
 >  > Ooooh, nearly forgot, you may also need to turn up the outputs in 
 > alsamixer.  You run this in a terminal.
 >  >
 >  > Andy
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >   On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:37:35 + al davis 
 >  wrote 
 >  >  > I'm trying to make Rivendell work on a Sound Blaster Audigy sound card,
 >  >  > and support all of the outputs.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > In a simple sense, it works, but I want to use the rear, side,
 >  >  > etc as separate outputs and that doesn't seem to work.  I want to use
 >  >  > one output for rdairplay, a separate one for the aux logs, another for
 >  >  > cue, another for the rdcatch decks, etc.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > I have done this several times with Asus sound cards and motherboards.
 >  >  > They work exactly as I expect them to work.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > But the Sound Blaster ..  even though it has the extra jacks, it just
 >  >  > puts the same audio on all of them.  In rdadmin, there is just one
 >  >  > "port".
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Any ideas?
 >  >  >
 >  >  > al.
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Re: [RDD] Anyone using Natural Log?

[Steve Varholy]

We're using it with MediaTouch for about 5 years now.


The one issue I had was that it does not "pre-bill" clients. That has been 
fixed in the most recent version - the upgrade I am not willing to pay for at 
this point.


It does not have a feature for specifying where in the stopset you want certain 
copy to run, a feature SMARTS had and we used a lot. While Natural Log will let 
you set that the copy runs First or Last in the break, you can't tell it to run 
anywhere BUT first or last or never run first.


The manual should tell you what you need to put in the Copy ID field for 
Rivendell cart numbers.


Once you have done that, it is pretty much schedule, review and send to be 
merged.


Do run the database maintenance every so often or your billing numbers can be 
weird.


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Rob Landry 
<41001...@interpring.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 1:05:28 PM
To: Simon Frech
Cc: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System
Subject: Re: [RDD] Anyone using Natural Log?


I'm using NL. It's pretty straightforward to set it up, and it's quite
reliable.


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On Wed, 5 Apr 2017, Simon Frech wrote:

> I’d be interested in talking with someone using the Natural Log software with 
> Rivendell.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell and Broadcast Tools switcher.

[Steve Varholy]

You might need to use the terminal and send commands to the BT outside of 
Rivendell to see what it is doing in reaction to manufacturers documented 
commands. That way you can assure that the switcher is working properly.

Had a BT relay box that came half DOA and that is how we determined the source 
of the problems.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:27 PM, James Greenlee  wrote:
> 
> I've recently loaded Rivendell 2.15.2 on CentOS 7 and am trying to configure 
> an older Broadcast Tools 8x2 switcher.
> 
> The COM port on the system is configured as ttyS2, Rivendell host serial port 
> is configured as /dev/ttyS2, I'm using the Broadcast Tools 8x2 selection 
> under "Switchers/GPIO" and everything is configured as follows:
> 
> "GENERAL NOTES: Control is done by means of an RS-232C connection to a four 
> pin RJ11 modular jack on the back of the unit (an adapter to a standard DB9 
> connector is supplied by Broadcast Tools with the unit). Serial port 
> parameters should be set to 2400 baud rate, no parity, 8 data bits, 1 stop 
> bit, CR/LF termination.
> 
> The 8x2 should be configured to use 'Mix' mode. This can be done by holding 
> down the F1 button on the switcher while powering up.
> Operation in 'multidrop' mode is not supported. "
> 
> 
> Which I got that information from here:  
> http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/SWITCHERS.txt_-_Switcher_Application_Notes_for_Rivendell#BROADCAST_TOOLS_8x2
> 
> 
> The Broadcast Tools is configured as switcher matrix 1 (local sound card is 
> matrix 0), on serial port 0, and Rivendell knows that it's serial port 0 is 
> /dev/ttyS2.  When I create a macro that performs "ST 1 1 1!" and run it, the 
> Broadcast Tools goes to mute.  Really...Any ST command ends up in mute.  
> Other RML commands (SR SA) do nothing.
> 
> Any thoughts?  Rivendell is definitely sending something to the switcher 
> because it does mute every time I run a macro.  My guess is it has older 
> firmware with a different command set than Rivendell is sending.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> James
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Event Question

[Steve Varholy]

Are you using it just to play the IDs at the top of the hour?


If so, I am doing the same thing triggered by GPI closures and can fill you in 
on how I have it set up.


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Nicholas Craig 

Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:51:03 PM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: [RDD] Rivendell Event Question


I am playing around with Rivendell for an upcoming project. So far I am very 
impressed with what the software is capable
of doing.

I am trying to make a 'log event' for a station ID at the top of the hour. 
After adding the ID cart to the event,
clicking save, and reopening the event, the audio clip disappears out of the 
pre-import carts section. For the life of
me I can't seem to get any cart into an event and save them. What am I doing 
wrong?

Running Rivendell v2.13.0 on Ubuntu 16.04.

Thanks,
Nick Craig, Albany, NY
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Re: [RDD] installing on Centos7

[Steve Varholy]

Good tip.


I was setting up Centos 7 to use it as a temporary STL.


They also made adding repositories into an edit the config file exercise, too.


Wiped it and put LTS version of Ubuntu on it. Much easier to configure quickly 
without having to tinker under the hood.


Would have made a RIvendell appliance but I didn't want to mess with Jack and 
tinker with macros to pull up and play a webstream permanently.


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Cowboy 

Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 5:49:55 PM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] installing on Centos7

On Wednesday 22 February 2017 03:27:33 pm Steve Varholy wrote:
> Having to reactivate the Ethernet port after a restart was a deal killer.

 You can change that.
 I do it by editing
 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/enpsx-cfg ( whatever they call your
 ethX port these days )
 Change the line that says
 ON_BOOT=no
 to ON_BOOT=yes
 Something like that. It's pretty obvious once you get into the file.

> Poor choice for a default config IMHO.

 So is that dumb-ass selinux policy enforcing.
 permissive is a much, MUCH better choice.
 I **always** change it almost immediately.

 Between the two of those the system can stop you
 cold trying to install anything at all.

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Re: [RDD] installing on Centos7

[Steve Varholy]

Was playing around with Centos 7 this weekend as well. Having to reactivate the 
Ethernet port after a restart was a deal killer.

Poor choice for a default config IMHO.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:12 PM, "waynetay...@pipelinebroadcast.com" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter, you have Internet access working on the machine, correct?  You
> may need to check back with nmtui after you restart and confirm the
> Ethernet port is still "activated".
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> Thought I would play with doing an install on Centos 7. I put the minimal
>> setup on the drive, rebooted and proceeded with the instructions in
>> Fredâ?Ts page
>> (http://static.paravelsystems.com/rivendell-install/rivendell-install-rhel7.html
>> ).
>> Everything works fine until I get to the â?oyum -y install
>> rivendell-installâ? line. Then I get an error that says â?onot package
>> rivendell-install available�. Any ideas? Thanks
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Re: [RDD] Interesting USB Serial Issue

[Steve Varholy]

The BT seems to carry enough information.  I can see it specifically identified 
on the log.. That's how I discovered Centos would close the USB connection and 
reconnect it on another port.


Looks like I have to delve into the finer points of UDEV.


Has anyone used a Broadcast Tools SRC-4 to drive an input on the GPI-16. Having 
a devil of a time getting this combo to work.


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From: Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com>
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 11:39:28 AM
To: Steve Varholy
Cc: Wayne Merricks; rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Interesting USB Serial Issue

On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Steve Varholy wrote:

> Looks like my Rivendell appliance machine just seems to disconnect the USB
> port and reconnect on another port.

> Was watching the logs and it disconnected ttyUSB0 and then connected the
> GPI-16 to ttyUSB1.

They do that, unfortunately. If you do some Googling, you'll find out that
there's a way to tell udev to assign a specific name to the device, such
as /dev/btswitch, which you can use in RD regardless of whether it gets
recognized as /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB1.

That said, what worked in Debian 6 doesn't necessarily work in Debian 7 as
udev keeps getting played with by the developers.

Also, some USB-to-serial-port converters don't carry enough identifying
information for udev to uniquely distinguish one from another.

At WCRI, I lost patience with this nonsense and installed an old fashioned
serial port card.


Rob

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>
>
> Going to keep my eye on it.
>
>
> If there is someone that can dispense some advice on wiring a Broadcast
> Tooks SRC-4 output relay to a GPI-16 input, could you email me off list?
> I've got MediaTouch closing/opening the relay. GPI is not showing anything
> unless I physically ground the input pin to trigger the input. Finally
> learning this side of the business
>
>
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> From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org
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> 
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 11:48:37 AM
> To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
> Subject: Re: [RDD] Interesting USB Serial Issue
> Hi,
>
> Probably not related but I had a similar issue when using a real serial
> port.  It would be fine for a few days and then would stop receiving via
> Riv.
>
> In the end I stopped using Rivendell as a go between and used screen
> combined with some shell scripts to relay to Riv via rmlsend.  It has
> been reliable ever since.
>
> Its worth a try either way although it may not make a difference:
>
> http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Switchers#The_macros_didn.27t_work
>
>
> On 26/01/17 00:32, Steve Varholy wrote:
> > Ouch. That's not good.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Cowboy  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday 25 January 2017 06:26:14 pm Steve Varholy wrote:
> >>> Any thoughts? Is is a bug in the USB driver perhaps?
> >> It's a bug in the USB BIOS implementation.
> >>
> >> I searched for weeks for a way to reset the bus without
> >> re-loading BIOS.
> >> I found none.
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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Re: [RDD] Interesting USB Serial Issue

[Steve Varholy]

Looks like my Rivendell appliance machine just seems to disconnect the USB port 
and reconnect on another port.


Was watching the logs and it disconnected ttyUSB0 and then connected the GPI-16 
to ttyUSB1.


Going to keep my eye on it.


If there is someone that can dispense some advice on wiring a Broadcast Tooks 
SRC-4 output relay to a GPI-16 input, could you email me off list? I've got 
MediaTouch closing/opening the relay. GPI is not showing anything unless I 
physically ground the input pin to trigger the input. Finally learning this 
side of the business....


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Wayne Merricks 

Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 11:48:37 AM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Interesting USB Serial Issue

Hi,

Probably not related but I had a similar issue when using a real serial
port.  It would be fine for a few days and then would stop receiving via
Riv.

In the end I stopped using Rivendell as a go between and used screen
combined with some shell scripts to relay to Riv via rmlsend.  It has
been reliable ever since.

Its worth a try either way although it may not make a difference:

http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Switchers#The_macros_didn.27t_work


On 26/01/17 00:32, Steve Varholy wrote:
> Ouch. That's not good.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 25, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Cowboy  wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday 25 January 2017 06:26:14 pm Steve Varholy wrote:
>>> Any thoughts? Is is a bug in the USB driver perhaps?
>> It's a bug in the USB BIOS implementation.
>>
>> I searched for weeks for a way to reset the bus without
>> re-loading BIOS.
>> I found none.
>>
>> --
>> Cowboy
>>
>> http://cowboy.cwf1.com
>>
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>> vinyl."
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Re: [RDD] Interesting USB Serial Issue

[Steve Varholy]

Ouch. That's not good.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 25, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Cowboy  wrote:
> 
>> On Wednesday 25 January 2017 06:26:14 pm Steve Varholy wrote:
>> Any thoughts? Is is a bug in the USB driver perhaps?
> 
> It's a bug in the USB BIOS implementation.
> 
> I searched for weeks for a way to reset the bus without
> re-loading BIOS.
> I found none.
> 
> -- 
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[RDD] Interesting USB Serial Issue

[Steve Varholy]

As some of you may know, I've got the Appliance install running Riv 2.15.2.


Attached to the CPU is a Broadcast Tools GPI16 Plus to accept closures from my 
MediaTouch master control system.


With a closure on GPI16, Rivendell is set up to fire a macro cart which fires 
the legal IDs for the network stations.


The macro cart works


For the first few hours, a closure on GPI16 will fire the macro cart and it 
plays.


When it sits, lets say for overnights, when I get back to the studio, the 
closure no longer fires the macro and nothing shows on the logs that that the 
closure was received. The GPI16 LED -- is -- showing the closure.


If I restart the machine, it will work again - for awhile.


Any thoughts? Is is a bug in the USB driver perhaps?


The log is not showing that the BT GPI 16 is being dismounted and reassigned 
another /ttyUSB port.


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Re: [RDD] Macro Help

[Steve Varholy]

rmlsend in the terminal window only ends up outputting the help file.


This is what occured:


[rd@rdhost ~]$ rmlsend --to-host=localhost PP S! 1 1 /!

rmlsend [--to-host=] [--to-port=] [|--from-file=]

Where  is the name or IP address of the host to send the command to
(default = localhost),  is the UDP port to to send the message to
(default = 5859),  is any valid RML code and  is the name of a file
containing valid RML code.  If '-' is specified as , then rmlsend will
read the list of RML commands to be sent from standard input.

When specifying RML code on the command line, it will likely be necessary
to escape any special characters (such as spaces or bang [!] characters)
to protect them from the shell.

Examples:
 rmlsend LL\ TestLog\!
Send the RML command 'LL 1 TestLog!' to the local host.

 rmlsend --to-host=host.mydomain.com --to-port=5858 --from-file=test.rml
Send the RML commands in 'test.rml' to the system at 'host.mydomain.com' at
port 5858.



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 on behalf of Wayne Merricks 

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:00:05 AM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Macro Help


Hi,


rmlsend is a command line utility to run macros on any Rivendell computer 
(--to-host to change machines or leave it for localhost), if you are using 
macro carts you don't need rmlsend.


The \ is a command line problem, you can't use ! in most linux shells as it is 
a special character so \! means this is a literal ! and not a special !.

On 18/01/17 14:33, Steve Varholy wrote:

Wayne:


Thank you.


In the macro cart must I prepend rmlsend to the macro command as per your 
example below?


rmlsend PP S1 1 1\!



What does the \ do? I didn't see that in the txt file in /docs.


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Subject: Re: [RDD] Macro Help


Hi,


You might be getting hit by case sensitivity.  Try this:


rmlsend PP S1 1 1\!


The broadcast tools stuff tends to have dip switches where you can change the 
modes, you might have to change it to pull down or pull up (basically the 
reverse of what it is now).

There are no notes that say you need to do anything special for the GPI-16 in 
the switchers.txt file so it should just work.

https://github.com/ElvishArtisan/rivendell/blob/master/docs/SWITCHERS.txt
rivendell/SWITCHERS.txt at master · ElvishArtisan 
...<https://github.com/ElvishArtisan/rivendell/blob/master/docs/SWITCHERS.txt>
github.com
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professional broadcast environments




Regards,

Wayne

On 18/01/17 04:18, Steve Varholy wrote:

I think I've fallen into one of the gaps of documentation.


I've got the appliance installation running on HP Compaq Desktop PC 8000 Elite 
Core 2 Duo E8400 (3.00 GHz).


I've got an external USB sound card. Works great.


I've also got a Broadcast Tools GPI-16+ connected via USB. I've got it working. 
The Rivendell GPI monitor thinks the GPI contact is ON all the time even though 
it is not - triggering it causes the GPI monitor to report it as "off" and then 
it goes back to "on." That's not my immediate issue.


The real issue I am having is setting up RDCatch to watch for a closure and 
then play a specific cart on the soundpanel.


I've set up a macro cart  with the following line in it PP s1 1 1! then gone 
into Admin/Manage Hosts to have the GPI closure on fire the macro cart.  (Play 
Row 1/Column 1 in Soundpanel S1)


It doesn't work.


Going in RDLibrary and running the line in the macro cart (or the whole Macro 
Cart) doesn't do anything.


I'm at a loss to try to figure out what is not set right - and there's still 
scant documentation to be able to figure it out myself.


Any clues where I should start?


Steve Varholy
President and General Manager

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Re: [RDD] Macro Help

[Steve Varholy]

I've got it working now through rmlsend and running the library macro cart.


Now's the trick to get the GPI trigger working.


Thank you for your help.


As soon as I help a group get their LPFM, I'll submit some draft revised docs 
to help someone else out...


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Steve Varholy 

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 4:29:08 PM
To: Wayne Merricks; rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Macro Help


Here's what I have in the end of syslog:


I manually hit the panel button and got audio playback.


But nothing in response to rmlsend


Jan 18 15:40:04 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:05 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:06 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:06 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:06 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:07 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:07 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:07 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:08 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:08 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:08 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:09 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:10 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:11 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:18 rdhost caed: LoadPlayback  Card: 0  Stream: 0  Name: 
/var/snd/060001_001.wav  Handle: 20
Jan 18 15:40:18 rdhost caed: PlaybackPosition - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Pos: 0  
Handle: 20
Jan 18 15:40:18 rdhost caed: Play - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Handle: 20  Length: 
2042  Speed: 10  Pitch: 0
Jan 18 15:40:20 rdhost caed: UnloadPlayback - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Handle: 20
Jan 18 15:42:17 rdhost ripcd: received malformed rml: "pp s1 1 1!" from 
127.0.0.1:38574
Jan 18 16:04:36 rdhost ripcd: received malformed rml: "ex 060001!" from 
127.0.0.1:33014
Jan 18 16:09:57 rdhost ripcd: ran local maintenance routines
Jan 18 16:18:46 rdhost yum[15895]: Installed: 
1:gnome-system-log-2.28.1-10.el6.x86_64
Jan 18 16:26:38 rdhost caed: LoadPlayback  Card: 0  Stream: 0  Name: 
/var/snd/060001_001.wav  Handle: 21
Jan 18 16:26:38 rdhost caed: PlaybackPosition - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Pos: 0  
Handle: 21
Jan 18 16:26:38 rdhost caed: Play - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Handle: 21  Length: 
2042  Speed: 10  Pitch: 0
Jan 18 16:26:40 rdhost caed: StopPlayback - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Handle: 21
Jan 18 16:26:40 rdhost caed: UnloadPlayback - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Handle: 21



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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Wayne Merricks 

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 3:40:13 PM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Macro Help

Just to combine this with Kyle's advice what you're after is either "\
" to denote spaces or the quotes like Kyle suggests e.g.

rmlsend "PP S1 1 1!"

or assuming I get my delimiters right:

rmlsend PP\ S1\ 1\ 1\!

the \ means this is a space in the current argument and not a
new argument.  But yeah Kyle's is easier to read by far.

You should then be able to look at syslog to see if Riv picks up the
RML command.

On 2017-01-18 20:25, Steve Varholy wrote:
> He's right. I used "/" as the delimiter. I also screwed up the S1
>
> However, it still just responds with the help listing.
>
> [rd@rdhost ~]$ rmlsend PP S1 1 1 !
>
>  rmlsend [--to-host=] [--to-port=]
> [|--from-file=]
>
>  Where  is the name or IP address of the host to send the
> command to
>  (default = localhost),  is the UDP port to to send the message
> to
>  (default = 5859),  is any valid RML code and  is the name
> of a file
>  containing valid RML code. If '-' is specified as , then
> rmlsend will
>  read the list of RML commands to be sent from 

Re: [RDD] Macro Help

[Steve Varholy]

Here's what I have in the end of syslog:


I manually hit the panel button and got audio playback.


But nothing in response to rmlsend


Jan 18 15:40:04 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:05 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:06 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:06 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:06 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:07 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:07 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:07 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:08 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:08 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:08 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:09 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:10 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:11 rdhost ripcd: received rml: 'PP s1 1 1!' from 127.0.0.2
Jan 18 15:40:18 rdhost caed: LoadPlayback  Card: 0  Stream: 0  Name: 
/var/snd/060001_001.wav  Handle: 20
Jan 18 15:40:18 rdhost caed: PlaybackPosition - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Pos: 0  
Handle: 20
Jan 18 15:40:18 rdhost caed: Play - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Handle: 20  Length: 
2042  Speed: 10  Pitch: 0
Jan 18 15:40:20 rdhost caed: UnloadPlayback - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Handle: 20
Jan 18 15:42:17 rdhost ripcd: received malformed rml: "pp s1 1 1!" from 
127.0.0.1:38574
Jan 18 16:04:36 rdhost ripcd: received malformed rml: "ex 060001!" from 
127.0.0.1:33014
Jan 18 16:09:57 rdhost ripcd: ran local maintenance routines
Jan 18 16:18:46 rdhost yum[15895]: Installed: 
1:gnome-system-log-2.28.1-10.el6.x86_64
Jan 18 16:26:38 rdhost caed: LoadPlayback  Card: 0  Stream: 0  Name: 
/var/snd/060001_001.wav  Handle: 21
Jan 18 16:26:38 rdhost caed: PlaybackPosition - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Pos: 0  
Handle: 21
Jan 18 16:26:38 rdhost caed: Play - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Handle: 21  Length: 
2042  Speed: 10  Pitch: 0
Jan 18 16:26:40 rdhost caed: StopPlayback - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Handle: 21
Jan 18 16:26:40 rdhost caed: UnloadPlayback - Card: 0  Stream: 0  Handle: 21



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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Wayne Merricks 

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 3:40:13 PM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Macro Help

Just to combine this with Kyle's advice what you're after is either "\
" to denote spaces or the quotes like Kyle suggests e.g.

rmlsend "PP S1 1 1!"

or assuming I get my delimiters right:

rmlsend PP\ S1\ 1\ 1\!

the \ means this is a space in the current argument and not a
new argument.  But yeah Kyle's is easier to read by far.

You should then be able to look at syslog to see if Riv picks up the
RML command.

On 2017-01-18 20:25, Steve Varholy wrote:
> He's right. I used "/" as the delimiter. I also screwed up the S1
>
> However, it still just responds with the help listing.
>
> [rd@rdhost ~]$ rmlsend PP S1 1 1 !
>
>  rmlsend [--to-host=] [--to-port=]
> [|--from-file=]
>
>  Where  is the name or IP address of the host to send the
> command to
>  (default = localhost),  is the UDP port to to send the message
> to
>  (default = 5859),  is any valid RML code and  is the name
> of a file
>  containing valid RML code. If '-' is specified as , then
> rmlsend will
>  read the list of RML commands to be sent from standard input.
>
>  When specifying RML code on the command line, it will likely be
> necessary
>  to escape any special characters (such as spaces or bang [!]
> characters)
>  to protect them from the shell.
>
>  Examples:
>  rmlsend LL TestLog!
>  Send the RML command 'LL 1 TestLog!' to the local host.
>
>  rmlsend --to-host=host.mydomain.com --to-port=5858
> --from-file=test.rml
>  Send the RML commands in 'test.rml' to the system at
> 'host.mydomain.com' at
>  port 5858.
>
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>
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>
> 1338 Main Street - Suite 202
>
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>
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>
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Re: [RDD] Macro Help

[Steve Varholy]

Double quotes doesn't seem to work in the Appliance version of bash.

Single quotes does not return an error.

Still trying to figure out why PP does not seem to play the panel. 

I am going to double my audio settings in RDAdmin. Although hitting the panel 
in RD Panel does play back audio.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 18, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Kyle Robbertze  wrote:
> 
>> On 18/01/2017 22:25, Steve Varholy wrote:
>> He's right. I used "/" as the delimiter. I also screwed up the S1
>> [...]
>> When specifying RML code on the command line, it will likely be necessary
>> to escape any special characters (such as spaces or bang [!] characters)
>> to protect them from the shell.
> This can also be done using quotes, which may be more readable for
> longer commands:
> 
> rmlsend "LL TestLog!"
> 
> Cheers
> Kyle
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Re: [RDD] Macro Help

[Steve Varholy]

He's right. I used "/" as the delimiter. I also screwed up the S1


However, it still just responds with the help listing.


[rd@rdhost ~]$ rmlsend PP S1 1 1 \!

rmlsend [--to-host=] [--to-port=] [|--from-file=]

Where  is the name or IP address of the host to send the command to
(default = localhost),  is the UDP port to to send the message to
(default = 5859),  is any valid RML code and  is the name of a file
containing valid RML code.  If '-' is specified as , then rmlsend will
read the list of RML commands to be sent from standard input.

When specifying RML code on the command line, it will likely be necessary
to escape any special characters (such as spaces or bang [!] characters)
to protect them from the shell.

Examples:
 rmlsend LL\ TestLog\!
Send the RML command 'LL 1 TestLog!' to the local host.

 rmlsend --to-host=host.mydomain.com --to-port=5858 --from-file=test.rml
Send the RML commands in 'test.rml' to the system at 'host.mydomain.com' at
port 5858.




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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Cowboy 

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 3:11:46 PM
Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Macro Help

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:00:05 +
Wayne Merricks  wrote:

> The \ is a command line problem,

 No.
 It's a command line solution.

 You need a way to tell the system that a space is not a delimeter,
 as it always is, so the \ is the "escape" character.
 It tells the system that the very next single character is to be
 taken literally, and not by its normal meaning.
 The same "escape sequence" applies to all special characters that
 have dedicated meanings.
 *, ,the \ itself, etc.

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Re: [RDD] Macro Help

[Steve Varholy]

Wayne:


Thank you.


In the macro cart must I prepend rmlsend to the macro command as per your 
example below?


rmlsend PP S1 1 1\!



What does the \ do? I didn't see that in the txt file in /docs.


Steve Varholy
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Cell: (703) 585-2101


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Wayne Merricks 

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 7:34:35 AM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Macro Help


Hi,


You might be getting hit by case sensitivity.  Try this:


rmlsend PP S1 1 1\!


The broadcast tools stuff tends to have dip switches where you can change the 
modes, you might have to change it to pull down or pull up (basically the 
reverse of what it is now).

There are no notes that say you need to do anything special for the GPI-16 in 
the switchers.txt file so it should just work.

https://github.com/ElvishArtisan/rivendell/blob/master/docs/SWITCHERS.txt
rivendell/SWITCHERS.txt at master · ElvishArtisan 
...<https://github.com/ElvishArtisan/rivendell/blob/master/docs/SWITCHERS.txt>
github.com
rivendell - A full-featured radio automation system targeted for use in 
professional broadcast environments




Regards,

Wayne

On 18/01/17 04:18, Steve Varholy wrote:

I think I've fallen into one of the gaps of documentation.


I've got the appliance installation running on HP Compaq Desktop PC 8000 Elite 
Core 2 Duo E8400 (3.00 GHz).


I've got an external USB sound card. Works great.


I've also got a Broadcast Tools GPI-16+ connected via USB. I've got it working. 
The Rivendell GPI monitor thinks the GPI contact is ON all the time even though 
it is not - triggering it causes the GPI monitor to report it as "off" and then 
it goes back to "on." That's not my immediate issue.


The real issue I am having is setting up RDCatch to watch for a closure and 
then play a specific cart on the soundpanel.


I've set up a macro cart  with the following line in it PP s1 1 1! then gone 
into Admin/Manage Hosts to have the GPI closure on fire the macro cart.  (Play 
Row 1/Column 1 in Soundpanel S1)


It doesn't work.


Going in RDLibrary and running the line in the macro cart (or the whole Macro 
Cart) doesn't do anything.


I'm at a loss to try to figure out what is not set right - and there's still 
scant documentation to be able to figure it out myself.


Any clues where I should start?


Steve Varholy
President and General Manager

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The Historic Barringer Building

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Direct: (803) 404-5535

Cell: (703) 585-2101


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[RDD] Macro Help

[Steve Varholy]

I think I've fallen into one of the gaps of documentation.


I've got the appliance installation running on HP Compaq Desktop PC 8000 Elite 
Core 2 Duo E8400 (3.00 GHz).


I've got an external USB sound card. Works great.


I've also got a Broadcast Tools GPI-16+ connected via USB. I've got it working. 
The Rivendell GPI monitor thinks the GPI contact is ON all the time even though 
it is not - triggering it causes the GPI monitor to report it as "off" and then 
it goes back to "on." That's not my immediate issue.


The real issue I am having is setting up RDCatch to watch for a closure and 
then play a specific cart on the soundpanel.


I've set up a macro cart  with the following line in it PP s1 1 1! then gone 
into Admin/Manage Hosts to have the GPI closure on fire the macro cart.  (Play 
Row 1/Column 1 in Soundpanel S1)


It doesn't work.


Going in RDLibrary and running the line in the macro cart (or the whole Macro 
Cart) doesn't do anything.


I'm at a loss to try to figure out what is not set right - and there's still 
scant documentation to be able to figure it out myself.


Any clues where I should start?


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Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

[Steve Varholy]

Good advice.

This was a fresh install from the appliance DVD. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 16, 2016, at 6:30 PM, Gregg Wonderly  wrote:
> 
> Blind updates on production machines without validation on another machine 
> and without backups is quite problematic.  
> 
> Backups with ZFS snapshots might also be something to look into as a simple, 
> zero impact backup mechanism to help you manage the impact of updates.
> 
> Gregg
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Lorne Tyndale  wrote:
>> 
>> Based on what you've described, I suspect that if you were running Jack
>> it would work.
>> 
>> I agree that on a Rivendell appliance OS upgrades in general should be
>> avoided.  After all the Rivendell machine shouldn't be on the internet
>> in the first place but instead on a private LAN where the usual thought
>> of "update to avoid security holes" doesn't necessarily apply.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I think you are misunderstanding what was happening.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If the card is set at 48000 with the new drivers, RD cannot "see" the card 
>>> at all. It is reported as not being installed by RD Admin.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If rdalsaconfig is set to 44.1 and RD is restarted, the card is seen as 
>>> installed by RD, but on playback the audio becomes noisy and corrupted.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you go into rdalsaconfig, change the sample rate to 48000 and restart 
>>> the daemons, the audio card is no longer reported as installed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The card and the machine worked properly under 48000 when the appliance was 
>>> initially installed. Something that gets updated during the OS update 
>>> process is changed and causes this issue with my machine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is simply going to receive GPI closures and play back station ID's, so I 
>>> am not really wanting to do much with this unit other than take the path of 
>>> least resistance to get it to function. If it were one of our playout 
>>> machines, that would be a different story.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: John Stanley 
>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:15:36 PM
>>> To: Steve Varholy
>>> Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
>>> Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 2016-12-16 at 18:32 +, Steve Varholy wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hadn't gotten a chance to posting.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The answer is a qualified yes. Paravel gave me a call because they
>>>> were curious to see whether they had an issue as well.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The CENTOS upgrade also updates the driver on my particular machine.
>>>> Where the onboard soundcard driver in the original appliance is happy
>>>> at 48000, the card under the upgraded driver only likes to be run at
>>>> 44.1 and the resulting audio is terrible.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I have a new card arriving tomorrow. The thought is that it will
>>>> resolve the issue.
>>> 
>>> It's not that it is happy...Alsa defaults to 48kHz in RHEL/CentOS. What
>>> this does is change the default rate. If you look in the RD logs you
>>> will or should see the error where this happens. You also need to make
>>> sure RD is set at 44100kHz also in the Admim settings.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Could you try this before going further:
>>> 
>>> ### put in  /root/.asoundrc
>>> 
>>> pcm.!default {
>>> type rate
>>> slave {
>>> pcm "plughw:0,0"
>>> rate 44100
>>> }
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Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

[Steve Varholy]

I think you are misunderstanding what was happening.


If the card is set at 48000 with the new drivers, RD cannot "see" the card at 
all. It is reported as not being installed by RD Admin.


If rdalsaconfig is set to 44.1 and RD is restarted, the card is seen as 
installed by RD, but on playback the audio becomes noisy and corrupted.


If you go into rdalsaconfig, change the sample rate to 48000 and restart the 
daemons, the audio card is no longer reported as installed.


The card and the machine worked properly under 48000 when the appliance was 
initially installed. Something that gets updated during the OS update process 
is changed and causes this issue with my machine.


It is simply going to receive GPI closures and play back station ID's, so I am 
not really wanting to do much with this unit other than take the path of least 
resistance to get it to function. If it were one of our playout machines, that 
would be a different story.


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From: John Stanley 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:15:36 PM
To: Steve Varholy
Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

On Fri, 2016-12-16 at 18:32 +, Steve Varholy wrote:
>
> Hadn't gotten a chance to posting.
>
>
> The answer is a qualified yes. Paravel gave me a call because they
> were curious to see whether they had an issue as well.
>
>
> The CENTOS upgrade also updates the driver on my particular machine.
> Where the onboard soundcard driver in the original appliance is happy
> at 48000, the card under the upgraded driver only likes to be run at
> 44.1 and the resulting audio is terrible.
>
>
> I have a new card arriving tomorrow. The thought is that it will
> resolve the issue.

It's not that it is happy...Alsa defaults to 48kHz in RHEL/CentOS. What
this does is change the default rate. If you look in the RD logs you
will or should see the error where this happens. You also need to make
sure RD is set at 44100kHz also in the Admim settings.


Could you try this before going further:

### put in  /root/.asoundrc

pcm.!default {
type rate
slave {
pcm "plughw:0,0"
rate 44100
}
}


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Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

[Steve Varholy]

Hadn't gotten a chance to posting.


The answer is a qualified yes. Paravel gave me a call because they were curious 
to see whether they had an issue as well.


The CENTOS upgrade also updates the driver on my particular machine. Where the 
onboard soundcard driver in the original appliance is happy at 48000, the card 
under the upgraded driver only likes to be run at 44.1 and the resulting audio 
is terrible.


I have a new card arriving tomorrow. The thought is that it will resolve the 
issue.


If anyone has a HP Compaq Desktop PC 8000 Elite Core 2 Duo E8400 (3.00 GHz) 4 
GB you might expect the same issue.


The other alternative, if I wished to still use onboard sound, would be to 
simply not run the update/upgrade on the appliance.




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From: John Stanley 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 12:52:33 PM
To: Steve Varholy
Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

On Mon, 2016-12-12 at 02:38 +0000, Steve Varholy wrote:

Did you solve this issue with the audio card?


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Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

[Steve Varholy]

Yes and yes.

All I did is run update/upgrade after installation and testing to be sure 
everything worked in the original appliance install.

Something is causing the audio cards to no longer bee seen in rdadmin after the 
updating is done.

I have done nothing else other than run update on the appliance once the 
install and complete and confirmed as working.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2016, at 9:23 PM, John Anderson 
mailto:validmirror...@yahoo.com>> wrote:


No dice. Something in the update/upgrade process is breaking ALSA or 
Rivendell's interface to ALSA.

RDALSACONFIG shows the onboard card and is assigned.
Next go-around I am going to try updating just Rivendell and see what happens.



what is your sample rate set to?is the internal card properly assigned in 
in admin to play back properly...

the original sample rate might have been 44100, and got bumped to 48000 in 
later versions...



On Sunday, December 11, 2016 7:29 PM, Steve Varholy 
mailto:st...@wxryfm.org>> wrote:


Just did a fresh install of the appliance.

The onboard audio worked under Rivendell right out of the box.

Ran update/upgrade.

No dice. Something in the update/upgrade process is breaking ALSA or 
Rivendell's interface to ALSA.

RDALSACONFIG shows the onboard card and is assigned.
Next go-around I am going to try updating just Rivendell and see what happens.

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From: 
rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org<mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
 
mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>>
 on behalf of Wayne Merricks 
mailto:waynemerri...@thevoiceasia.com>>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 9:17:44 AM
To: 
rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org<mailto:rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

Hi,

Might be a long shot but I've had instances recently where some USB
sound cards are not detected by Riv at all (I can't remember if
rdalsaconfig listed them).  It was something to do with the card only
supporting 24bit sound and whatever Riv does do swap between 16/32bit
didn't work.

The only way I could use this card in the end was to use JACK first and
make Riv use JACK instead of ALSA directly.

I didn't have the time to figure out why this would be the case..

Regards,

Wayne

On 2016-12-10 22:28, Lorne Tyndale wrote:
> After you hit save in rdalsaconfig, did you go into the
> /etc/asound.conf
> file and add back in the rate line as I previously suggested  and
> resave
> the file?  You'll need to be root to do this.  Once re-saved you'll
> need
> to restart the Rivendell daemons.
>
> Another thought - have you tried using Jack instead of ALSA?
>
>>
>>
>> I did move them down and hit save. Rivendell still does see them.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2016, at 1:38 PM, John Anderson
>> mailto:validmirror...@yahoo.com><mailto:validmirror...@yahoo.com>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> the cards in the top window are "available", the ones in the bottom
>> window are in use in rivendell
>>
>> so you must move the one you want, to the lower part of the window
>> and save...
>>
>> if centos sees it, rivendell can't.. if rivendell is using it, it
>> will not play in centos...
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 10, 2016 12:20 AM, Steve Varholy
>> mailto:st...@wxryfm.org><mailto:st...@wxryfm.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> rdalsaconfig is showing both onboard sound cards - like it did as
>> originally installed.
>>
>> However rdadmin/manage hosts/audio resources  reports no cards
>> present.
>>
>> Centos is seeing the onboard card and plays sounds through it
>> outside of Rivendell.
>>
>> So, I am pretty much still stuck.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Steve Varholy
>> President and General Manager
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>>
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>> 1338 Main Street - Suite 202
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Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

[Steve Varholy]

Just did a fresh install of the appliance.


The onboard audio worked under Rivendell right out of the box.


Ran update/upgrade.


No dice. Something in the update/upgrade process is breaking ALSA or 
Rivendell's interface to ALSA.


RDALSACONFIG shows the onboard card and is assigned.

Next go-around I am going to try updating just Rivendell and see what happens.


Steve Varholy
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From: 
rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org<mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
 
mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>>
 on behalf of Wayne Merricks 
mailto:waynemerri...@thevoiceasia.com>>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 9:17:44 AM
To: 
rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org<mailto:rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

Hi,

Might be a long shot but I've had instances recently where some USB
sound cards are not detected by Riv at all (I can't remember if
rdalsaconfig listed them).  It was something to do with the card only
supporting 24bit sound and whatever Riv does do swap between 16/32bit
didn't work.

The only way I could use this card in the end was to use JACK first and
make Riv use JACK instead of ALSA directly.

I didn't have the time to figure out why this would be the case..

Regards,

Wayne

On 2016-12-10 22:28, Lorne Tyndale wrote:
> After you hit save in rdalsaconfig, did you go into the
> /etc/asound.conf
> file and add back in the rate line as I previously suggested  and
> resave
> the file?  You'll need to be root to do this.  Once re-saved you'll
> need
> to restart the Rivendell daemons.
>
> Another thought - have you tried using Jack instead of ALSA?
>
>>
>>
>> I did move them down and hit save. Rivendell still does see them.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2016, at 1:38 PM, John Anderson
>> mailto:validmirror...@yahoo.com><mailto:validmirror...@yahoo.com>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> the cards in the top window are "available", the ones in the bottom
>> window are in use in rivendell
>>
>> so you must move the one you want, to the lower part of the window
>> and save...
>>
>> if centos sees it, rivendell can't.. if rivendell is using it, it
>> will not play in centos...
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 10, 2016 12:20 AM, Steve Varholy
>> mailto:st...@wxryfm.org><mailto:st...@wxryfm.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> rdalsaconfig is showing both onboard sound cards - like it did as
>> originally installed.
>>
>> However rdadmin/manage hosts/audio resources  reports no cards
>> present.
>>
>> Centos is seeing the onboard card and plays sounds through it
>> outside of Rivendell.
>>
>> So, I am pretty much still stuck.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Steve Varholy
>> President and General Manager
>> [1478183502168_WXRY_Full_993_300x145.png]
>>
>> The Historic Barringer Building
>> 1338 Main Street - Suite 202
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>> Office: (803) 753-7260 x 251
>> Direct: (803) 404-5535
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>> 
>> From:
>> rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org<mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org><mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
>> mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org><mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>>
>> on behalf of Robert Jeffares
>> mailto:jeffares.rob...@gmail.com><mailto:jeffares.rob...@gmail.com>>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 12:10:56 AM
>> To:
>> rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org<mailto:rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org><mailto:rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
>> Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue
>>
>> I have noticed that storing alsamixer settings requires specifying
>> the card
>>
>> # alsactrl store [0,1,2]
>>
>> so they come back on reboot. I note too that sometimes I had to
>> create
>> the directory they were stored in.
>>
>> I am away from base at the moment, so don't have access to my notes.
>>
>> The store *has* to be done as root
>>

Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

[Steve Varholy]

I did move them down and hit save. Rivendell still does see them.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 10, 2016, at 1:38 PM, John Anderson 
mailto:validmirror...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Steve


the cards in the top window are "available", the ones in the bottom window are 
in use in rivendell

so you must move the one you want, to the lower part of the window and save...

if centos sees it, rivendell can't.. if rivendell is using it, it will not play 
in centos...

.


On Saturday, December 10, 2016 12:20 AM, Steve Varholy 
mailto:st...@wxryfm.org>> wrote:


rdalsaconfig is showing both onboard sound cards - like it did as originally 
installed.

However rdadmin/manage hosts/audio resources  reports no cards present.

Centos is seeing the onboard card and plays sounds through it outside of 
Rivendell.

So, I am pretty much still stuck.

Any suggestions?

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mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>>
 on behalf of Robert Jeffares 
mailto:jeffares.rob...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 12:10:56 AM
To: 
rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org<mailto:rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

I have noticed that storing alsamixer settings requires specifying the card

# alsactrl store [0,1,2]

so they come back on reboot. I note too that sometimes I had to create
the directory they were stored in.

I am away from base at the moment, so don't have access to my notes.

The store *has* to be done as root

regards

Robert


On 09/12/16 22:12, Andy Higginson wrote:
>    On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 00:09:45 + Steve Varholy 
> mailto:st...@wxryfm.org>> wrote 
>   > Would the upgrade/update of the appliance changed that?
>
> There has been some kind of change in the ALSA setup on Centos 6 that has 
> come between the version on the Appliance DVD (Centos 6.6?) and the current 
> fully updated version (Centos 6.8).  I don't know how much of a change there 
> is, but there are some extra things that you need to do to the Alsamixer 
> setup to get it to keep the settings over a reboot.  I don't know if this is 
> totally off the rails or if this is a clue.
>
> Andy
>
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Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

[Steve Varholy]

rdalsaconfig is showing both onboard sound cards - like it did as originally 
installed.


However rdadmin/manage hosts/audio resources  reports no cards present.


Centos is seeing the onboard card and plays sounds through it outside of 
Rivendell.


So, I am pretty much still stuck.


Any suggestions?


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Robert Jeffares 

Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 12:10:56 AM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

I have noticed that storing alsamixer settings requires specifying the card

# alsactrl store [0,1,2]

so they come back on reboot. I note too that sometimes I had to create
the directory they were stored in.

I am away from base at the moment, so don't have access to my notes.

The store *has* to be done as root

regards

Robert


On 09/12/16 22:12, Andy Higginson wrote:
>    On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 00:09:45 +0000 Steve Varholy  
> wrote 
>   > Would the upgrade/update of the appliance changed that?
>
> There has been some kind of change in the ALSA setup on Centos 6 that has 
> come between the version on the Appliance DVD (Centos 6.6?) and the current 
> fully updated version (Centos 6.8).  I don't know how much of a change there 
> is, but there are some extra things that you need to do to the Alsamixer 
> setup to get it to keep the settings over a reboot.  I don't know if this is 
> totally off the rails or if this is a clue.
>
> Andy
>
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Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

[Steve Varholy]

Would the upgrade/update of the appliance changed that?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 8, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Lorne Tyndale  wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Edit your /etc/asound.conf file and put a rate line into it to reflect
> the sample rate you're using in Rivendell.  Here's an example:
> 
> pcm.rd0 {
>  type hw
>  card 0
> rate 48000
> }
> ctl.rd0 {
>  type hw
>  card 0
> }
> 
> If you're using 44100 then substitute that.  Every HP or Dell I've ever
> installed Rivendell on to, where I've wanted to test with the onboard
> sound card using alsa, I've needed to put the rate line into the
> /etc/asound.conf file or it doesn't play audio.
> 
> Add the line, restart your Rivendell daemons (or reboot the computer)
> and see if it works.
> 
> Lorne Tyndale
> 
> 
>> 
>> What is curious is that rd 2.5.5 worked. Once it upgraded to 2.15 Rivendell 
>> it no longer sees card. Not a driver problem at least with Centos systems 
>> sounds the card works and the OS sees it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 6:12 PM, Andy Higginson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've been playing around with the Appliance on an HP 8000 Elite which is a 
>>> dual core machine, probably similar to the one you are having issues with.  
>>> The onboard soundcard is a Realtek ALC662 and like you I've had issues 
>>> getting it to work with Rivendell.  In the end I gave up and went for the 
>>> option of installing a Soundblaster Audigy 2 card which has worked without 
>>> issue.  The onboard soundcard is now disabled in the bios.
>>> 
>>> The HP dc7800 and dc7900 machines have ADI Soundmax sound cards onboard and 
>>> these work great with Rivendell so it must be something with the Realtek.
>>> 
>>> Just one other thing for you to try before giving up totally on the onboard 
>>> audio (I didn't do this - only just thought of this) is to try changing the 
>>> IRQ of the onboard sound in the BIOS.  This can be found somewhere in the 
>>> right hand menu of the bios.  This might just sort out the problem.  I've 
>>> known of IRQ settings on HPs stop things from playing nice.
>>> 
>>> Andy 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Thu, 08 Dec 2016 18:06:40 + Steve Varholy  
>>> wrote  
>>>>Gentlemen (and Ladies):
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I've got the cuurent Appliance installed on an HP Dual Core Slim Line. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Got it playing audio and everything seemed functional under 2.5.5.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Then I ran update/upgrade.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Now 2.15 will not recognize the onboard audio card. Centos, however, will 
>>>> and plays audio.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In RDAMIN/System Info, it shows no cards installed.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am assuming it is a potential user permissions problem because of the 
>>>> update.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Any advice on where to start?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

[Steve Varholy]

What is curious is that rd 2.5.5 worked. Once it upgraded to 2.15 Rivendell it 
no longer sees card. Not a driver problem at least with Centos systems sounds 
the card works and the OS sees it.




Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 8, 2016, at 6:12 PM, Andy Higginson  wrote:
> 
> I've been playing around with the Appliance on an HP 8000 Elite which is a 
> dual core machine, probably similar to the one you are having issues with.  
> The onboard soundcard is a Realtek ALC662 and like you I've had issues 
> getting it to work with Rivendell.  In the end I gave up and went for the 
> option of installing a Soundblaster Audigy 2 card which has worked without 
> issue.  The onboard soundcard is now disabled in the bios.
> 
> The HP dc7800 and dc7900 machines have ADI Soundmax sound cards onboard and 
> these work great with Rivendell so it must be something with the Realtek.
> 
> Just one other thing for you to try before giving up totally on the onboard 
> audio (I didn't do this - only just thought of this) is to try changing the 
> IRQ of the onboard sound in the BIOS.  This can be found somewhere in the 
> right hand menu of the bios.  This might just sort out the problem.  I've 
> known of IRQ settings on HPs stop things from playing nice.
> 
> Andy 
> 
> 
>  On Thu, 08 Dec 2016 18:06:40 + Steve Varholy  
> wrote  
>> Gentlemen (and Ladies):
>> 
>> 
>> I've got the cuurent Appliance installed on an HP Dual Core Slim Line. 
>> 
>> 
>> Got it playing audio and everything seemed functional under 2.5.5.
>> 
>> 
>> Then I ran update/upgrade.
>> 
>> 
>> Now 2.15 will not recognize the onboard audio card. Centos, however, will 
>> and plays audio.
>> 
>> 
>> In RDAMIN/System Info, it shows no cards installed.
>> 
>> 
>> I am assuming it is a potential user permissions problem because of the 
>> update.
>> 
>> 
>> Any advice on where to start?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Steve Varholy
>> President and General Manager
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 1338 Main Street - Suite 202
>> Columbia, South Carolina 29201
>> Office: (803) 753-7260 x 251
>> Direct: (803) 404-5535
>> Cell: (703) 585-2101
>> 
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Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

[Steve Varholy]

It's the onboard card. Once I have played around with it, I am going to use a 
USB external card and roll the dice that potential issues will come up  on a 
reboot.


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From: Seth Stevenson 
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 1:12:53 PM
To: Steve Varholy
Cc: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance Issue

What card are you using? If it is an audioscience, maybe a different driver 
version in the upgraded version?

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Steve Varholy 
mailto:st...@wxryfm.org>> wrote:

Gentlemen (and Ladies):


I've got the cuurent Appliance installed on an HP Dual Core Slim Line.


Got it playing audio and everything seemed functional under 2.5.5.


Then I ran update/upgrade.


Now 2.15 will not recognize the onboard audio card. Centos, however, will and 
plays audio.


In RDAMIN/System Info, it shows no cards installed.


I am assuming it is a potential user permissions problem because of the update.


Any advice on where to start?




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[RDD] Appliance Issue

[Steve Varholy]

Gentlemen (and Ladies):


I've got the cuurent Appliance installed on an HP Dual Core Slim Line.


Got it playing audio and everything seemed functional under 2.5.5.


Then I ran update/upgrade.


Now 2.15 will not recognize the onboard audio card. Centos, however, will and 
plays audio.


In RDAMIN/System Info, it shows no cards installed.


I am assuming it is a potential user permissions problem because of the update.


Any advice on where to start?




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Re: [RDD] Interesting Issue with the Current Appliance Installation

[Steve Varholy]

Apparently it tests for a 300GB drive for the full appliance install and that 
is why it is failing.


I'm going to use it to play/fire off affiliate station ID's on GPIO closure, so 
it doesn't need to store a lot of audio.


Looks like instead of shortcutting it with the appliance, I'll have to build my 
own.


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From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org 
 on behalf of Cowboy 

Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:18:13 PM
To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
Subject: Re: [RDD] Interesting Issue with the Current Appliance Installation

On Saturday 03 December 2016 08:12:42 pm Steve Varholy wrote:
> Any ideas how I can force the full standalone install.

 You choose the basic disks with a custom layout, which the
 way you do that changes with every CentOS release.
 Far from intuitive. Usually takes me three or four attempts
 each time to get it to something that works.

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[RDD] Interesting Issue with the Current Appliance Installation

[Steve Varholy]

I'm trying to install the standalone version of the appliance on a refurbished 
dual-core HP slimline with a new 120GB SD.


I'm having an interesting issue that I cannot figured out a workaround.

Anaconda on standalone option says there is no room on the disc and quits 
without installing.


If I choose to install the network client version and select the custom device 
install, it finds the SSD and then will install on the SSD.


Any ideas how I can force the full standalone install. The appliance version is 
2.6.6.1


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Re: [RDD] Pitch Control (Again)

[Steve Varholy]

5% is way too high. .5% to about 2% is about the range. 2.5% is really 
noticeable. 

The point of the technique is to make a competitor playing your music to sound 
sluggish to button pushers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 23, 2014, at 9:34 PM, "Lorne Tyndale"  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> If you run rddbcheck after you change your audio file, it'll go through
> and fix the cart/cut lengths in the database, based on the actual
> lengths of the audio tracks (I just did a quick test on a test file /
> machine I have running an audio file through SOX and speeding it up 5%).
> 
> However as you point out this won't fix any segue / talk time / hooks /
> other markers there.
> 
> But for me I'm putting it to my backup.  Even at only 5%, the Dire
> Straights track I picked as a test just does not sound right.
> 
> Another suggestion that I have - when you make a backup of your
> /var/snd, also grab a backup of your database.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Beware that if you are applying this to an existing library; there are 
>> cart lengths/average_lengths in the CARTS table and I'm pretty sure cut 
>> lengths in the CUT table.
>> 
>> It would also throw off any segue/talk time/hook/cut start/end markers 
>> you had put in.
>> 
>> Should be possible to script a 5% increase and adjust markers 
>> accordingly rather than manually changing everything.
>> 
>> On 2014-11-23 20:50, Lorne Tyndale wrote:
  I think the answer in this case is clear: pitch alteration belongs 
 in the production room, not the air chain.
>>> 
>>> I tend to agree with this too.
>>> 
>>> Another option that I could point out - which essentially would be 
>>> the
>>> same as doing the alteration in production only without the human
>>> element involved (thus automating the process for those with large
>>> libraries).  With a few MySQL queries and some scripting it would be
>>> possible to generate a list of the audio file names in /var/snd for
>>> which audio pitch speedup is desired.  Then - make a backup of 
>>> /var/snd
>>> (so you'll still have the original) and write a script to use SOX to
>>> automate the modifying / pitch speed up of any audio tracks you want 
>>> to
>>> perform that effect on and have that script put the new versions of 
>>> the
>>> files in /var/snd (make sure they have the same file name as the old
>>> file name).  This should have a similar end-effect of modifying each 
>>> one
>>> in something like Audacity, without the need to sit there and go into
>>> each file.
>>> 
>>> Writing such code should be relatively trivial and potentially 
>>> provide
>>> the desired result.  Since it would not modify any of the Rivendell
>>> source code it would be unlikely to break anything.  And going back 
>>> to
>>> the original would simply be a matter of restoring the needed files 
>>> from
>>> backup.
>>> 
>>> Of course without someone listening to each track (as you would when
>>> editing each one) you'd lose the human ability to make sure  things
>>> still sound good.
>>> 
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Re: [RDD] Pitch Control (Again)

[Steve Varholy]

He's asking for a feature change to allow the on-the fly pitching of the 
music on a per-category or per-cut basis. This is much easier to do on 
the fly than modify the whole library and have to re-encode if the 
competitive situation changes or they decide an increase or decrease in 
the amount of pitch is necessary.


All the major systems have this function. MediaTouch permits it on a 
per-category basis. It is a presentation effect much like jingles.


This is one of the features that Rivendell doesn't currently accommodate 
that prevents us from making the switch.


Unfortunately my coding skills are caught up in the : 10 Print "Hello" 
20 END era.


On 11/21/2014 2:16 PM, Lorne Tyndale wrote:

Hi,

The only feature that I know of in Rivendell is the time stretch as
supported on the ASI cards.

If you really wanted to do a speed / pitch change, then I would think
the best place to do that would be in a production studio prior to audio
import (and while I am not one to want to do something like a
speed/pitch change, if someone really wanted to do this I'd give this
same advice regardless of automation system).  That way you can factor
in the human element to find something that will work in your market,
rather then just relying on a database/computer setting and hoping for
the best (from what I've observed, stations that just set something up
and hope for the best usually have ratings  which reflect the same).

At the moment Rivendell can't do what you're asking, however it is open
source - so if you wanted to write some code to do this, that's one of
the beauties of open source!

Lorne Tyndale





I am still wishing to pitch shift speed
the music, leave ids and spots.  This
should be a feature implemented in
RDLibrary.  Running a Top 40 station,
it is almost a must have in my market
as the other pop stations speed their
music up. I had emailed Fred directly
with no response, so hopefully this
gets seen.

Do not mistake this request for time
stretching, this is an actual speed
change, affecting both time and pitch.
Almost all play out systems have this
feature, and would make Rivendell the
perfect automation system for ANY
format station.

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Re: [RDD] Pitch Control?

[Steve Varholy]

He wants to pitch up the music as a production and presentation effect. 
It is very common in pop formats to do so. It used to be done when the 
music was placed on a tape cartridge or during playback by intentionally 
speeding up th studio turntables. Now, most stations do it on the fly in 
the automation system playback by setting it in the category settings.


The common "pitch up" is between 1.5% to 3% After that, the effect is 
very noticeable. Those with perfect pitch ears can detect they key 
chance even at 2%.


Our MediaTouch system does it and I hadn't looked at whether Rivendell 
could do it, since we have awhile before we transition to opensource.


On 10/3/2014 1:14 PM, Brian wrote:
That still doesn't clarify the question, in my mind.  Do you want to 
change the pitch by 2% for the sake of changing the pitch, or are you 
actually just looking for a way to make the music play 2% faster?  
Shifting pitch isn't the only way to compress the time.  If you use an 
AudioScience card, Rivendell can increase or decrease the playback 
speed on the fly without changing the pitch or affecting the imported 
files because AudioScience licensed the time shifting technology for 
their sound cards from 25/7 systems.


"AudioScience Expands Licensing of 25-Seven Audio Time Stretch/Shrink 
Technology" - Radio Magazine

http://radiomagonline.com/studio_audio/time_management/audioscience_expands_licensing_25-seven_0411/

Other than as a means to make the songs use 2% less air time, I can't 
think of any other reason to pitch shift the music by 2%.  Can you 
share more about what you're hoping to accomplish, and for what 
purpose?  With a little bit more information about what you want to 
do, the community might be able to suggest other viable solutions to 
achieve the desired result besides the one you already have in mind.




Brian



On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Jim Hartranft 
mailto:musicmake...@dejazzd.com>> wrote:



>  Are you wanting to shift pitch,
which I would do in prod, not in the
>  air playout, or are you wanting to
time-shrink, which Rivendell can do,
>  to shorten the play time of a
particular piece ?
>


I want to pitch shift all music, leave
station IDs and adverts alone.  Can it
be done in Rivendell without
permanently changing the imported file?

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Re: [RDD] Appliance Networking/Workgroup Question

[Steve Varholy]

Windows has a couple "features" with networking. Every couple restarts 
of one Windows machine I have to rebrowse for the folders in one of the 
programs because on restart it will show the url as 
//machine/user/Nethood/servername/folder.


Fun.

Yet another reason why *nix is superior.


On 4/25/2014 10:44 AM, Rob Landry wrote:


I have a client that uses A[Redacted]t, and I was having the devil of 
a time getting their program that imports logs from traffic and music 
schedulers to work. So, I called B[Redacted]s, and they told me I had 
to *browse* for the various folders the program needed to see and not 
just type the paths into the relevant fields. I expressed disbelief, 
but did as the B[Redacted]s person suggested, and lo and behold, it 
worked. I tiptoed quietly away and hope I never have to mess with that 
particular program again.



Rob

On Fri, 25 Apr 2014, Cowboy wrote:


On Friday 25 April 2014 06:37:09 am Alan Smith wrote:

Although I am familiar with unc connections, I
almost never use them.  I usually just "browse" the network to 
locate my

resource,


Since windows "browse" is so unreliable, failing to connect even if 
"browse"

sees the machine, I've gotten to where I never use it anymore.



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Re: [RDD] Mouse Freezes on Paravel Broadcast Automation Appliance DVD image

[Steve Varholy]

Just saw this:

On 4/4/2014 12:58 PM, Wayne Merricks wrote:

This Dell Optiplex 740 has been running Windows XP reliably with the same
mouse and keyboard since 2009.
 Definitely check the motherboard for bad/bulging/leaking capacitors. 
It is old enough to still have problems with them.


Lost two Optiplexes this year to motherboards that had the Chinese 
capacitor plague.


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