Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files

2012-05-15 Thread Andy
Gary G. wrote:
>
> It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been
> developing such a script.
> 
> A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this
> problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl  Somehow it seems the project
> simply vanished or lost interest.

Actually I just checked and that script is still included in the current
rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under /scripts/.

Here are some instructions on how to use it:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102

If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't changed since 2005 ,
then the script should still work fine.

Let us know how you get on with it.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files

2012-05-15 Thread Gary G .
Gary G.  writes:

 
> Perhaps some genius script programmer out there could write a conversion
> utility that converts Cakewalk/Sonar INS files into RGDs?  

> Such a utility would allow instant access to a library of thousands of
> MIDI instruments and save us all the mind numbing task of entering 
> thousands of parameters by hand. 

It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been
developing such a script.

A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this
problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl  Somehow it seems the project
simply vanished or lost interest.

Here's one of the threads regarding this.

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5107

And here's the only working link I could find to any actual version of
the script.

http://www.koders.com/perl/fid0B8CD4AE74BB2A1553B928B4BBE8BC4C405E909B.aspx?s=none

I've run a few tests and so far it doesn't seem to be producing the required
output, however, I'll play around with it for a bit and see if I can get it to
work.  The comments mention some hard coded variables that may have to be
changed to get it to work properly.

Here's a few links I've found on the Cakewalk INS definitions format.

http://www.raisedbar.net/InsDef.htm

http://tse3.sourceforge.net/doc/InsFiles.html

http://www.tweakheadz.com/how_to_build_a_cakewalk_ins_file.htm

If any perl wizards out there want to take a look at the code and can point 
out any obvious errors or potential fixes for the script, then by all means 
please shout them out in here.

At any rate, the perl code looks much simpler and easier to follow than the
python txt2rgd.py script that seems to be the official solution these days.

Once again, if there are any perl wizards out there who can help with this,
the more the merrier...

Regards,
Gary



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Fwd: Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-15 Thread Richard Bown
Ok well, I'm going to carry on occasionally merging from trunk as I wish and 
will pop out another Windows build at some point soon.  For the moment, and to 
make it easier for me to manage, I've created a page:

http://www.xyglo.com/rosegarden-for-windows/

I'll post announcements here and keep monitoring the usual lists but this is a 
bit easier for me.

R
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Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Fwd: Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-15 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On Monday, May 14, 2012, Brett McCoy wrote:

> ... If you create Windows versions of applications originally developed on
> Linux, you have to do a lot of hand holding for those users to either help
> them compile stuff, or be prepared for loud complaining because the Windows
> support isn't as good as the Linux support (especially for development
> branches).

That's a perfect description of what we've already experienced some taste of 
with the Windows build.

> Unfortunately, I think this gives some Windows users the impression
> that the Linux developers are snobby, unhelpful and arrogant.

I'm sure it does.

For my part, it's some mixture of being totally ignorant of how to do anything 
on Windows, and totally unsympathetic to the Windows user who wants to whine 
about free-as-in-beer software.  They're running Windows!  All the best 
commercial stuff with years of professional development behind it is available 
for that platform.

If they're cheap, that's not my problem.  If they're broke, they should 
probably just switch to Linux, and their unwillingness to do that is not my 
problem.

So maybe I am unhelpful, snobby, and arrogant.  I just don't have any use for 
those people.  I dealt with a lot of them when I was a Linux crusader, and I 
fart in their general direction.
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